questions

[arctic swift]

Will you be able to purchase alpha 2 access after it launches or just before?

[silk sage]

alpha one is by the end of the year no idea when alphs 2 is gonna be 😢

[arctic swift]

Yea i mostly meant if we knew if they would remove the pack or not

[silk sage]

iv watched almost all the dev posts. they have said "they dont care if you buy the game as its already funded to completion" so if they are still here id say they will stay but they havnt said either way

[arctic swift]

Oki

[eager shore]

Are you asking if the world if flat or round?
@desert ivy are you implying the world isnt flat? 👀 ||/s||

[clear badge]

How does the referral program work. I see I got one referral for for a voyager pack but unsure what this does for me

[hasty surge]

1- will i able to reserve my character name ATM ? if yes how ?
2- when will i able to have access to the game if so ? is it by email ?
3- do i need to do anything atm ? or all i need is just to wait for alpha 2 ? ```

[surreal elk]

1. No it will be at a later date. You will behind the KS then Summer backers, and Intrepid backers in the name reservation que

2. You will be emailed, etc. or notified of when your testing will take place.

3. Wait watch for updates we still havent hit A1 yet

[hasty surge]

thank you

[brazen topaz]

Hi, am wondering can more than one character i make access the cosmetics i bought or is it limited to only one character?

[sour granite]

no characters yet, so it has to be tying it to the account

[steady ocean]

Only one can wear it at a time, but you can use them across all of your characters. They are account tied (at least the shop ones)

[brazen topaz]

Thanks

[hardy depot]

How does raids work, like does only 1 person get loot in a 40 man raid? Also can you replay the raid and keep farming it or is it locked for a week

[tight socket]

does anyone have any good videos for how combat works? the cross tab/action combat sounds really good. id be interested in playing spellsword myself so would love to see how it works

[clear ridge]

@tight socket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwaYLOuw2s&t=5567s This vod may help: pve boss at 17:15 pvp at 1:11:10 raid at 1:26:00

[wanton fox]

Wait wait what

Why are there alpha keys in the next cosmetic teaser

Ohhhh a2

Nvm

I mixed them up

I have alpha two mfw

[clear ridge]

@hardy depot https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Raids see looting section

[tight socket]

thanks for the video i will check it out 🙂

[white agate]

is there going to be a transport option to transport an empty caravan/mule to a different node without having to physically ride it there as this could limit a players progress if they have limited play time

[ruby swift]

There are npc caravans that are spawned through mechanics in the node. Personal caravans will need to be driven. Plan appropriately.

[tight socket]

are hybrid classes at a disadvantage dps wise against a pure melee class for example, but more versatile? how does the balance work in game?

sorry i was meaning would you expect to have slightly lower dps as a spellsword but, you bring more options to counter that?

[full badger]

We're still a long way off from any kind of balancing of the classes, which usually happens during Beta testing

Right now, the priority is to just get everything implemented and working in the game. Fine tuning and class balance comes later

[tight socket]

yeah i figured that, i was just meaning in a general sense, but you are right its way too early for that

[full badger]

@tight socket I'm sure Intrepid have a general idea of what they want out of the class balance but they haven't told us beyond what Jahlon said about balancing around groups as opposed to 1v1.

[tight socket]

yeah that also makes sense, im only asking as im curious to see how its gonna work. it looks very promising though

thats what i was thinking, that makes sense. sorry i really should do more research before i ask questions 🙂

[full badger]

There's nothing wrong with asking questions, that's why this channel exists in the first place

[tight socket]

100% appreciate the answers 🙂 i only really found out about the game yesterday though (yes im behind) so imj gonna do some more looking into stuff 🙂

[full badger]

[white agate]

@simple ether thanks for clarifying, i've been watching your youtube videos lately and wouldn't mind picking your brain on a few other items if you have the time

i know alot of people are saying "noone will flag for pvp" Re: the corruption 101, as for PVE players (farmers/gatherers specifically) will they have certain armor sets with significantly equal stats? e.g if i'm strictly a farmer in the game and a rogue sneaks up on me, will they potentially be able to one-shot me (assuming a significant gear/level gap) before i have the chance to flag and reduce the loss percentage of my goods

[silk tapir]

ttk is aimed to be at 30 seconds

[white agate]

ah ok

[silk tapir]

and you don't flag for pvp

you get flagged by your actions

[white agate]

so there will always be time to react

[silk tapir]

if it's 1 on 1 sure

and if it's even grounds

[white agate]

so does the potential victim get notified when ttk is activated?

[silk tapir]

i thought you get the combatant by killing

Players are flagged as combatants if they attack another player. If the attacked players fight back, they are also flagged as combatants, otherwise the attacked player will remain flagged as a non-combatant

so its your action that flags you

well then the wiki should be updated

[crystal beacon]

does flagged means aggro? 🤔

[silk tapir]

yea the flag is just for AoE

[crystal beacon]

okii thankies

[silk tapir]

no flag does not mean aggro - PvP has no aggro 😄

[crystal beacon]

well
play league of legends and thewe is mowe then enough aggro 😹

[silk tapir]

well then add that to the wiki i guess 😉

can only find the AoE part on flagging no word on single target

or a flagging system is when you get flagged if you hit people

from the info in the wiki there is both - one for aoe and prevention to accidently flag and one for getting flagged if you act in certain ways

okay so crux is: never trust the wiki

[ruby swift]

Yeah, I have it after the whole "what does force flag mean?" convo.

[tawdry swallow]

I have a question regarding sieges

How will the balance for player level gap and gear work?

Will each person join the siege with their own gear or is it a unified uniform?

or does it depend on preparation of attacking and defending groups

so if the defenders are ill prepared they might have shit gear?

[silk swallow]

Sees mentions of possible PvP scaling Prepares the pitchfork

[tawdry swallow]

to me it seems unreasonable for a level 20 and level 60 joining the same siege without being a great inbalance

[silk swallow]

We know that sieges will be very based on preparations on both sides

I think balance is being tested

[tawdry swallow]

Yes so its up to sides to make sure only high levels join the siege?

and if they attack with level 20s its their fault if they lose?

[tight socket]

there should be an imbalance imo, a level 60 should be stronger

[silk swallow]

It's more gonna be, Zerg based i think.

[tawdry swallow]

yes but then what is the point? the siege win will only be determined by who is available to join the raid and it will come down to how manny level 60s you have in the end

[silk swallow]

If you want to defend a castle you want everyone. If you want to defend a castle you want everyone.

Attack*

[tawdry swallow]

but what will a level 20 do if all attackers are level 60s? they would be good for nothing not even zerging

[tight socket]

plus an army of level 20's would eventually wear down a level 60 so numbers will play a factor too

[tawdry swallow]

1 level 60 sure

but an army of level 60s would be an extreme impossible challenge

[silk swallow]

Most likely use catapults/sieges, less of the trying to fight 1v1's

[tulip hatch]

Hello friends since this has become more of a discussion now, please move it to a discussion channel
Thank you

[tawdry swallow]

no it hasnt alluring

my question has not been answered

[tight socket]

equipment like siege engines, gear, etc will play a big part too, if equal numbers then 60's should beat 20's every time just speaking logically, but there will be a number of factors to consider

[tawdry swallow]

I don't want opinions here, just want an informed answer preferabally from developers themselves or someone who knows

[tulip hatch]

Not all questions can be answered if the information is not out yet.
Save the question for a dev Q&A

If other parties wish to chime in with their opinions then it's now a discussion and those comments need to be in a discussion channel.

[sacred lantern]

When is the next Q&A?

[plucky bluff]

This question has probably been answered a thousand times but I've been asked by a few people myself:
"If players in the EU/UK have purchased the Voyager package for alpha and beta access, will we still be able to access the game at the same time as everyone in NA?"

[tulip hatch]

@plucky bluff
NA, EU and OCE are the current regions planned for launch
Unless announced otherwise it'll be at the same time,

@sacred lantern Q&As are during the monthly livestreams that happen in the last week of every month

[sacred lantern]

Thanks! And one last question:
As of right now the EU shop is not up. When the EU shop is finished and up and running, will I be able to buy previous cosmetic pre-order packs? I want to buy this Heat and Harmony pack. Will I for example be able to buy that one when the EU shop is ready? Or do I have to pay 70$ taxes to be able to get that one?

[ruby swift]

They have said they have a plan for that. What that plan is, no one knows besides them.

[sacred lantern]

Yea, thats why I'm asking. I wanna make sure I'll be able to get that pack and not missing out because of the EU shop not established yet

[ruby swift]

Sorry, the answer is that they have given no answer besides "We are looking at that."

[sacred lantern]

I mean, I would like to buy the Heat and Harmony package as my first pre-order package. But right now, when the EU shop is down, I can't. Thats why im asking if i will be able to buy that package when EU shop is re-established?

Or what am I supposed to do right now?

Not for EU

I have to pay taxes 70$

Thats now what i call up

Well, they said that when the shop in Amsterdam is established, there wont be any EU taxes

Yeye, im talking about the VAT

70$ VAT

Exactly, because the shop is located in America

When the shop also establishes in Amsterdam, that wont be the case

[arctic sky]

Do people not understand tax?

[sacred lantern]

Are u sure about that? The VAT is because the exchange from SEK/EURO to DOLLARS? Isn't it?

But why, why is there a VAT for a digital copy 😮

[arctic sky]

Ask your government

[sacred lantern]

But, I've never experienced that before and I've bought over 200 games 😮

Ohhh, so If I use an american card, the VAT will be different? Or its the country where i am in right now that makes the difference?

I see, how about if u ask someone in america to buy in, will that make a difference? Cause my dad lives in US

Is that possible?

[oak depot]

you need a middle man

[sacred lantern]

Ok thanks guys, think i get it a lil more right now. Is there any info on their website about this I can read more about? 😄

[vital jasper]

So, we dont have a Spanish comunity of ashes?

[sacred lantern]

Ok dang it, fkin VAT ::(

[arctic sky]

Blame your countries tax laws

[sacred lantern]

Swedens tax laws sucks

[hard imp]

You get what you vote for.

[sacred lantern]

But that was why I was wondering if the VAT would be lower when the office in Amsterdam is finished. Because then maybe the tax laws will be different because the shop is located in EU?

[oak depot]

I don't know what "gift laws" exist internationally (if they even exist)

[vital jasper]

You get what you vote for.
@hard imp HAHAHAHAHAA i love your joke

[oak depot]

what if my parent/spouse/child/whetever bought me a birthday gift which happened to be a pre-paid subscription to a service but I'm in a different country

[sacred lantern]

@hard imp Did not vote for this shit I can tell u that lol

[hard imp]

Your fellow countrymen did

[arctic sky]

Questions only please

[sacred lantern]

@simple ether Thanks for all the answers. Last question:
But that was why I was wondering if the VAT would be lower when the office in Amsterdam is finished. Because then maybe the tax laws will be different because the shop is located in EU?

Alright, I think I get it now. Thanks! Ill give the Swedish government a call!

Thanks mate ❤️

[ruby swift]

So when you go to buy your EU package, the price most likely will be $375 plus your VAT. And then people are going to lose their minds because they are again not going to get it.

[hidden crane]

@sacred lantern The best way to look at it is this- If you want to buy in right now, you'll have to pay the VAT. If you're happy to wait until later for possible changes, do so instead.

[ruby swift]

It will just be listed at equivalent $445

[sacred lantern]

@hidden crane But then I wont be able to buy these previous packs that are buyable right now right?

[hidden crane]

Correct, so as I said, if you want to buy in now, you'll have to pay the VAT

[nocturne pivot]

@hidden crane why would that ever change without, well moving to another country?

[hidden crane]

Intrepid could choose to price their packs cheaper for EU once their EU office opens, same way Valve does regional pricing etc.

^ Possibility. But dont count on it

[nocturne pivot]

ah like that, include the VAT in the price for EU

[ruby swift]

Which is what Mail.Ru and My.Com did. And we saw the mess they had with that. It will be awhile imo before that all gets unraveled. So again, the answer they have given is that "They are looking at it."

[proud imp]

Any plans for controller support?

[ruby swift]

Yep

[proud imp]

Sick.

[ruby swift]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Template:Controller_support

[lament delta]

@plucky pawn regarding the gourd contest - the contest rules say "Participation in the “Ashes of Creation Glorious Gourd Contest” (“Contest”) is available to all North American and European Union residents"; Is UK considered part of EU at the moment?

[spiral pine]

uk leaving takes effect in january 2021

[lament delta]

It would seem that UK technically left on Jan 2020 (i.e. already out) but is now in transitional period where it still abides by EU rules and regulations until Jan 2021. So can read it both ways.

[hidden crane]

Just take part in the contest- Your digital Alpha key reward if you do win applies to every country on the planet

It's only if you win the graphic card you might struggle with claiming it

[lament delta]

Does it? The rules literally state I can't even participate in it unless NA / EU. Would really appreciate a response from Toast on that.

[hidden crane]

Alrighty, shoot her a DM then, enjoy

[ruby swift]

A good idea is to DM her during normal business hours when you see her on. There is no guarantee you will get a response here.

[lament delta]

Oh alright, I'll do that then

[ruby swift]

"Please, check the #faq channel first. If your question is not answered, you may ask it here. This is not an official Customer Service support location. If you need assistance with your account, please place a Customer Service Ticket here: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.

This channel is for the community to help one another answer questions and resolve issues outside of Customer Service."

[lament delta]

Didn't realize it's uh.. allowed

[ruby swift]

As Shaze said, you can DM her. She gets a few hundred a day. You might get lucky and get a response.

[lament delta]

[copper pilot]

What happens to exp points after you reach max level?

[hidden crane]

You stop earning EXP. EXP is hardcapped.

i.e. once you hit 50, you wont progress your bar until an expansion raises the player level ceiling

[copper pilot]

If you can't level down then it's pretty pointless, no?

[hidden crane]

Correct

[ruby swift]

Nope, because you can accrue enough negative exp debt to severely impact your character.

[copper pilot]

Oh yeah the stats, I see

[hidden crane]

Wait what

There's stat dampening at level cap due to exp debt?

[ruby swift]

Of course, one of the first things they explained when all the hue hue hue started about how corruption would not be a deterrent to max level players. They got sumthin for dat azz.

[hidden crane]

That's exclusive to the corruption system though, not regular PvE death?

[ruby swift]

Stat dampening is a function of negative exp debt as last information given. That is from any source, any death. The reason so many tie it to the corruption system is because the penalty stacks that much faster.

Also the new pk count mechanic will factor.

That is what I said.

KK, I am up late, and you guys got this. Have fun.

[hidden crane]

Right so negative experience from regular player death (PvE or PvP) is not applied in instanced dungeons/sieges/wars/etc. yes? (As in, its primarily for open world content)

What

[velvet spear]

Negative experience is applied in Sieges?

[hidden crane]

That's not right

[velvet spear]

Idk why anyone would join a siege if it'll negatively affect them like that.

[hidden crane]

I specifically recall him stating arenas/sieges/wars/instanced raids would not have this penalty- Now I need to dig up a quote

[velvet spear]

I guess on the one hand it helps avoid Zergs...but on the other that sounds like it'd make for a very degenerate experience when a high level player can nuke down low level players that are just trying to help.

Maybe if the XP Debt is scaled based on how you died?

[desert ivy]

I didn't think it was applied to arenas/battleground and stuff

[hidden crane]

It's not, he said it wont be applied in one of the Discord QnA's, trying to find quote

[wispy whale]

Death penalties in arena's

might aswell just kill your own game then

[fallow fog]

I think it only applies to anything open world.

[echo oyster]

i think thats exactly what everyone but jahlon and unk think

[desert ivy]

Unknown was only talking about xp debt at level 50, not instanced stuff

[wispy whale]

Noone wants to paticipate in stuff if they are likely to suffer a penalty

makes no sense

[hidden crane]

EXP Debt results in skill/stat dampening. So anything you accrue EXP debt on results in dampening.

[cursive flame]

will there be PvP servers

and corrupted lose items on death right? Is there an actual bounty system where you can pay an NPC and insert a player's name in a text field so the NPC makes an auction house listing for a certain players ear or tags for the amount of gold the player paid the npc

[onyx knoll]

all servers are PvP servers

[cursive flame]

Is PvP enabled in all areas by default?

if not then it's not

[onyx knoll]

yes

[cursive flame]

towns excluded ofc

[onyx knoll]

towns not excluded 🙂

[cursive flame]

oh really that's sick

[uneven valley]

You can literally destroy towns

[onyx knoll]

The only excluded areas are private housings

[cursive flame]

so anyone can kill anyone else

No PvP flagging

[onyx knoll]

correct, there is a pvp flagging system however

but being unflagged doesn't mean you can't get attacked

it just means if someone kills you while you're not flagged they'll get corruption

[uneven valley]

It's kinda like how flagging works in Black Desert of you've played that

[cursive flame]

Although isn't it if you die corrupted you lose items

I'd really love to see a hardcore server mode

[onyx knoll]

If your corruption is high enough yes

you can read up on it here; https://www.ashes101.com/pvp

it's a pretty complex system

[cursive flame]

Hardcore with permadeath

[desert ivy]

There aren't any different servers

[cursive flame]

is that a possibility?

[onyx knoll]

there will not be a permadeath server, sorry

[desert ivy]

All servers are the exact same

[onyx knoll]

you can also read on bounty hunters here https://www.ashes101.com/bountyhunter

they're not NPCs, bounty hunting is something players can do

[cursive flame]

I read about tracking but is there an actual bounty system

Like an auction house

I pay an NPC X gold

[onyx knoll]

No

[cursive flame]

Insert player name into a field

And then he makes a listing for that players tags or something

[onyx knoll]

"As it is planned right now, Bounty Hunters can activate a pathfinding ability which allows them to track down corrupted players via the map. Once a Bounty Hunter does this, he will be flagged as a legal combatant for Corrupted Players for one hour, which means corrupted can kill bounty hunters without incurring more corruption."

Bounty hunters can track corrupted players on their map

and go kill them for rewards

[ornate mesa]

Guys I am thinking to be a currupted player...will there will be many casualties or less casualities ?

[onyx knoll]

As a player if you get ganked by someone else a lot and want them to be killed, you can ask in node chat or ask friends

@ornate mesa not sure what you mean. Being a corrupted player is not supposed to be something you can realistically maintain forever, the negatives are too big

it's meant as a punishment

not as a gameplay style

[ornate mesa]

@onyx knoll hope there will be less punishment.....Bec I have plans to do some looting

[onyx knoll]

I highly doubt it

as I said, it is meant as punishment. There are plenty of other ways you can go around murdering people without gaining corruption

[tight socket]

its meant to be a way to stop you picking on low level peeps, there will be plenty of people to pvp

[onyx knoll]

the most efficient way to get loot off of other players is through the caravan system, which gives no corruption

[torpid nimbus]

I reallly hate forced pvp, this could break it for me

[civic olive]

So this game seems like it has become PVP dominant? Haven't paid much attention in years but that's what it is looking like.

[split pilot]

how do I use name reservation item?

[crystal flax]

It's been a PvX game the entire time

[torpid nimbus]

I'm sure they will figure a good balance

[tulip hatch]

PvP and PvE both play important roles in Ashes
PvE builds the world
PvP is the catalyst for change

[torpid nimbus]

I'm hoping anyway

[velvet spear]

Pretty much it's a very dangerous game to be in. That said, I do hope guards are absolute beast...if I'm gonna die to a high level player I'd like to at least see them get dunked on by the guards.

[split pilot]

oh ok...

[torpid nimbus]

How long away is a alpha?

Oh nice

[civic olive]

No interest in forced pvp either.

[left vault]

Hi! My gf birthday is coming up and we both really like the new pre-order pack "WOE WITHIN THE WOODLANDS". Is't possible for me to gift if to her?

[desert ivy]

There's no gifting option no

[left vault]

ok thx 😦

[pale aspen]

Can't you just ask her for her login credentials and buy it on her account?

[hard imp]

Wut you mean forced pvp?

[ornate mesa]

@tulip hatch caravan system ? What is that

[hard imp]

Oh, ya of course. They made it sound like you are forcing ppl to pvp lol.

[ornate mesa]

@civic olive don't worry I will protect u

If u will die...we will die together

[civic olive]

Nah, y'all have fun

[hard imp]

Will do

[ornate mesa]

@civic olive hahahaha ye that's what I live for

Heheh l✌️ meow

[pale aspen]

Pvp

[ornate mesa]

I am happy there is mmo atlast who is focusing PvP

I mean gw2 focus PvP too but like 1 year before they stopped a little attention towards PvP but they r back..........I am happy there is another mmo coming

Who focusing PvP......and all the developer will be able to pay attention to PvP balance

[pale aspen]

In theory that is ok, but in reality it will still need to be balanced for 1v1 in terms of numbers (more or less) but certain classes should counter certain others.

[ornate mesa]

Balance is not about 1 vs 1 actually....balance means not having infinite stealth + too much insane damage..... I mean like thief (rogue) can never win 1 vs 1 bec they have there own roles but they r called imbalance when there 1 skill can delete u and u don't even have chance to so anything actually

[pale aspen]

But IF you specifically say "isn't being balanced for 1v1 pvp", then 1v1 Arenas, duels etc. would be pointless. There needs to be balance for that of some sort.
With the overall archtype design (or if you want to call it balance) being focused on group balance

[dark jungle]

1v1 arenas are not the focus of the game

the game is not going to be balanced 1v1

[ornate mesa]

I usually don't care though bec I always choose class which give high benifit xd

Ye

Rather than becoming good in 1 vs 1 I think it's better if people understand the role of class... For e.g healer can't do 1 vs 1 but ye his role is magnificent in teamfight

But ye if a class holding 4 class ......ye we can consider it broken 🤣

[pale aspen]

I think we are just talking about different definitions of balance.
I guess no pvp game is ever balanced around 1v1 unless there is no classes or the classes are homogenised. Which would be awful in an MMO :D

[dark jungle]

you choose to set whether your AoE hits flagged opponents

[desert ivy]

There's an option that you can toggle that affects if your AoE hits people when you're non combatant

ye

that

[clear badge]

I have some referrals under my belt in my referral information, but I don't actually know what the program does. Any clue?

Thanks man

Jahlon did you play any classic wow? I ran a couple raids with a warrior who talked about you like you were either in the raid or like he knew you so was just curious

Gotcha then he just plugged your website for free for ya you got a hit and bookmark from some random person, or a friend who plays on mankrik alliance either or appreciate the content man

[ornate mesa]

Scosco is typing ......

Hahahaha

[clear badge]

Lol

[regal shadow]

Good evening I have a question about that PvP, as a player that relishes in that glorious blood soaked combat, will there be special rewards, or gear sets for those that do Battlegrounds, or Arena? 😄

[ornate mesa]

Become hunter I think...the thing I am going to do, will pick up weapons that will drop from red players

[regal shadow]

Thanks 😄

First message and I'm liked haha

[broken schooner]

@regal shadow https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas may answer some of you question

[desert ivy]

Arenas/battleground aren't planned to have any actual gear attached to it, but there may be special cosmetics/titles you can unlock

But no actual gear as far as we're aware

[regal shadow]

That sounds fair, as long as I can look good, I don't mind 😄

[crimson trout]

Harbors will be used to build boats and will spawn in nodes with access to water. If your node does not have a harbor and you want to build a ship. Will you have to transfers materials from your node to the harbor node to build and or upgrade.

Ok. Thanks.

[twin jungle]

hi i am new to the game

I am unable to download this game. can anyone help mke

[fierce ruin]

@twin jungle You can't be serious

[desert ivy]

Maybe he works at Intrepid and is wondering how to download their work client

[strong holly]

What race are those witches?

[crystal flax]

Some type of human seemingly, since only the woman has visible ears

[woeful notch]

I know this is wayyy far out and probably doesnt have an answer. But has there been anything said on how expansions to the game will affectt the world?

[desert ivy]

Nope

[woeful notch]

haha yeah figured as much

[frail void]

Did they say when we will get full information about the classes abilities?

[urban wren]

Got a question. Does anybody know if the different races will have bonuses/negatives to stats like in D&D?

[buoyant fable]

yes,yes

[frail void]

any date for a1?

[full badger]

@frail void No exact date yet, sorry

[buoyant fable]

big f

[silver mulch]

Do you have to be at a harbor to repair your ship?

[full badger]

Do you have to be at a harbor to repair your ship?
@silver mulch We don't know yet, sorry

[ripe stump]

Have braver of worlds backers been invited yet?

[digital yacht]

No

[crystal fjord]

Forgive me if this has been answered, will mods be supported?

[desert ivy]

No

[full badger]

Forgive me if this has been answered, will mods be supported?
@crystal fjord Steven is very much against addons so they will not be allowed or supported in Ashes.

[crystal fjord]

Thanks

[spark lark]

One thing Im confused about is how we have seen Ring and Necklace cosmetics in Monthly packs... so are we going to be able to see jewelry on in-game models? Because I've never played an MMO that showed that. Or will it be like only Jewelry COSMETICS show up on player models, not just jewelry you equip?

[fair goblet]

When is Alpha/Beta?

[tight socket]

will the game include a dps meter?

[steady ocean]

No

[fair goblet]

So I need to buy a pack to play right now?

[woven vale]

It will be impossible to play A1

However, you can buy access to A2, B1, and B2

[steady ocean]

You need to buy a pack to play in the future. Currently, the packs offer access to Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2

[barren bridge]

If Alpha one starts this year. Wheb will Alpha 1? On speculation even? Wanba know if im time if i buy the alpha 2 acces in december/jan.

[woven vale]

@barren bridge Fall for A1

[steady ocean]

There is also a contest going on right now that you can win Alpha 1 access. But you have to win it @fair goblet

[barren bridge]

@woven vale Is Alpha 2 this fall?

[steady ocean]

No, that is alpha 1

[woven vale]

@barren bridge Oh no, A2 is like a year out (guesstimation)

[barren bridge]

Okay xD

[steady ocean]

Alpha 2 will most likely be some time in 2021

[barren bridge]

Then im in time lol

Have the 150 pack now. Upgrading it in december for alpha 2.

Im so sad i missed out on 1 lol

[acoustic karma]

Has Alpha 1 opened up to Intrepid pack buyers yet?

[steady ocean]

No, we've only been told "late fall"

could mean November/December

[acoustic karma]

Alright thanks

[silk tapir]

No alpha yet

[crystal beacon]

So, quick question
I'm not an player but I still wanna play this game a lot and well i wanna start my own guild with my friends. Do i need to declare it somewhere or, well, just start it? I'm new here :)) and also thank u for your answer.

That's great :)) thanks

[tight socket]

how does the servers work? you say pre register to be on the same server? does that mean its assigned randomly? or will there be multiple servers to select from?

thats fair, i was trying to persuade people to come with me on launch and hoping we can all be together

[pulsar sonnet]

Was wondering, at launch if you are not in a guild, which will be a significant amount of players, we want to get away for the gateway to avoid crowd but if isolated players get far away from the crowd you will not find much to level up ?

[steady ocean]

You can skip the starter areas if you wish to, in order to get away from the crowds. There will be mobs to fight in other areas, as well as resources to gather. That being said, it's probably recommended to do the starter zone quests as you can earn your starter mount there.

[pulsar sonnet]

It is kinda the most player in an area the fastest you dev a node right ?

[steady ocean]

More people doing more things that give experience to the surrounding nodes. However, there may be limits to how much experience a node can gain in 1 day.

[pulsar sonnet]

My point is that we are kinda forced to stay in the crowd for civilization

[arctic sky]

I mean you can jump in the headstart server and skip the starter city and just go hang out where they are

[steady ocean]

headstart servers are not able to develop nodes the first few days of headstart

[arctic sky]

They will only be 5 levels above you anyway

Exactly...

You can move away from starter city

And go where a bunch of headstarters are

And help them make that a starter node

[crystal beacon]

Headstart servers will die out anyway

[pulsar sonnet]

To develop

[arctic sky]

@crystal beacon why?

[steady ocean]

maybe a better conversation for #aoc-discussion

[crystal beacon]

No reason to start a char there

[arctic sky]

@steady ocean probably

[spice reef]

i mean id use the headstart server just to see the game earlier

[pulsar sonnet]

Hey Tavern, I just caught up the end of your stream, you were showing a map you said you were going to post it in your discord?

[crystal beacon]

Because why should a normal player start there ? They know they are behind

[spice reef]

they would only be 5 lvls behind nothing else really

[arctic sky]

^

Headstart is just letting people in to stress test servers one last time

[split pilot]

Is there the possibility of more races being added like a skeleton race?

[steady ocean]

@split pilot In the future possibly, not before launch

[crystal beacon]

I think thats reasom enough to not play there

[split pilot]

Nooooo so I can’t make ainz ool gown

[spice reef]

by that logic then any new players a month after launch would have no reason to start since they are lvls behind

[crystal beacon]

Yes and Thats exactly how people choose server

[spark lark]

Choose a different server then

Only some servers are headstart

Dont play on one that is if it bothers you

[crystal beacon]

They always go for the newest server

[spice reef]

thats not how most people choose a server. I normally just look for one that isn't packed

[crystal beacon]

You are not most people

[spark lark]

Most people aren't hyper competitive to the point where they won't play on a server bc some people will be 5 levels higher than them for the first week

[spice reef]

neither are you

[spark lark]

^

[spice reef]

you basically are stating people won't join the headstart server because you wouldn't

you are*

[spark lark]

Yeah I doubt most people are like that

[arctic sky]

This is now getting to discussions

[spice reef]

kk heading there

[crystal beacon]

Nope i state it because in every game i played most people join the newest servers and older ones die out slowly. Thats how it works

K sry

[split pilot]

will there be an item for changing races?

[steady ocean]

The button to make a new character 😅

Steven has mentioned he wants player choice to matter, as it leads to your character(s) developing their own history and reputation on the server. So in many cases your choices are permanent. Race & primary archetype standing out the most off the top of my head. (not taking into account racial skin cosmetics, as those are limited and not really the same)

[split pilot]

ok follow up i can have multiple charecters right any idea how many?

[steady ocean]

However, racial skins may be the things you are thinking of. I believe the idea of vampires & werewolves have been floated around for future content. You can read more on them here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Racial_skins

[split pilot]

hmmm... thanks guys u gave me an idea

[fallow fog]

Azerty finally supported in Alpha1?

Or am i gonna get the same excuse

[woven vale]

@fallow fog I don't believe we know, but if you can bind differing keys I see no reason why it wouldn't work like QWERTY

[fallow fog]

it is not that. I can not bind &é"'(§è!çà & many others because those keys are not supported

[woven vale]

Ah, apologies not that familiar with Azerty.

I'd lean on no, but I have no clue on that.

[fallow fog]

They are not much different tho. It's just that the input of those keys were not supported because they are at different spots on the Qwerty layout.

[woven vale]

Yeah, just gotta implement them, though I'd guess we'd see stuff like that near the betas.

[oak depot]

Isn’t that basically HMI driver supported though? As long as the OS recognizes a valid key it should have a mapping

[fallow fog]

So i had to change my windows to qwerty for me to bind stuff. Which is fine but i have not seen a single game, from alpha to early acces or whatever that wouldn't let me bind stuff.

[oak depot]

No game will ask the hardware / peripheral device about what events occurred. It will ask the OS. So if the OS has support for it, so should any application.

AFAIK

[fallow fog]

i have no clue about those things, but to me it sounds a simple thing to implement.
Wish i still had a screenshot, but it said; invalid key/input.

Ooh well, i knew the answer to it but if i don't complain/bring it up again for the 500th time. They wouldn't care, because its only a thing for France/Belgium thing.

But i think other people that had non-qwerty keyboards had the same problem. so 🤷‍♂️

[left harness]

Will it be possible to buy the fox of pyre mount later on? If not is there a way to only buy just the mount? This is from this months backer

250$ is just too much with covid uwu..

[woven vale]

Cosmetics are monthly and exclusive

Once they're gone they're gone forever.

Reskins may happen in the future but not the same cosmetic.

[hexed cosmos]

Anyone know how set they are on the current proposed skill/class setup? As in that almost certainly staying or is it in early experimental stage? (not talking the individual skills themselves here or class names)

[left harness]

Rip. Just too much buying the whole pack only wanting the mount uwu

[steady ocean]

pretty much a certainty unless Alpha 2 changes that @hexed cosmos That's when we will be testing the class system

[hexed cosmos]

@steady ocean alright, thanks

[woven vale]

@hexed cosmos The 64 class system is a fairly prominent vision, though this may change in A2, as of now they're pursuing it.

[karmic basin]

If I bought the $75 heat and harmony set, when the new set lands can I upgrade to another tier using that as a base? Or do I need to rebuy another $75 base tier

[steady ocean]

you upgrade, although after the cosmetics switch you will no longer have access to the previous cosmetics, and your upgrade will include the new cosmetics

[hexed cosmos]

Maybe I just dont know enough about it, but I find it very disappointing in its current form. Feels like I get to choose one of 64 cookies, rather than form my own cookie, if that makes any sense?

[left harness]

Wait can you buy the 75$ bundle now and upgrade it later? (After its no longer available)

[hexed cosmos]

but like you say, Alphas will tell

[steady ocean]

You choose 1 of 8 archetypes, and you can change your secondary archetype which will change the flavor of your playstyle

[woven vale]

@hexed cosmos Augments allow you multiple differing types (for mage we were told...4? or 5 types exist) so you choose a cookies, then put sprinkles on it. Pick your color.

[hexed cosmos]

yea sure, one of 8 cookies with one of 8 toppings.

[steady ocean]

you can change your secondary archetype and experience them all

[desert ivy]

Don't really know what else you're expecting

[hexed cosmos]

a bit more innovation I guess?

[left harness]

Can you buy the 75$ bundle now and upgrade it later? (After its no longer available)

[woven vale]

@left harness Yes.

[left harness]

Thanks joka

[hexed cosmos]

@simple ether you've still got the same basic 8 cookies, with some selection of sprinkles on top

[woven vale]

Please take this to #aoc-discussion to discuss differing class philosophy.

[desert ivy]

Fuppo would be happy with that

[left harness]

Oh I found out I can just buy the fox mount for 20$ on the shop so its all good :)

@simple ether thanks for letting me know though!

[sand dust]

Last day for the fox I believe, make sure you buy now if you want it @left harness

[steady ocean]

It changes tomorrow at 11AM PST/PDT

[icy patrol]

<@&256789677930053632> Hello. I have reason to believe that my account has been compromised. Can someone please direct me to someone who can assist? Thanks in advance.

[steady ocean]

@icy patrol Make sure to take care of your email account as well, especially if you think your email may have been compromised also. Make sure you have 2 factor authentication and consider changing your password if you think it is necessary.

[full badger]

@icy patrol Sorry to hear that, Please use the link above from modbot to make a support ticket, and they'll do their best to help you out

[icy patrol]

Thanks for the advice.

[mighty tapir]

Are founders supposed to get access to NDA area of the forums and discord or no?

Not the original Kickstarter founders but with the more recent packages.

[onyx knoll]

Depends your tier

[mighty tapir]

Uhh forgot the exact name but the 4th tier.

Something plus

[onyx knoll]

the 375$ one? No, that gives you access to the alpha 2 that won't be under NDA

[mighty tapir]

Ahhh gotcha.

[crystal beacon]

Hiya all, very eager to get involved. A current ESO player.. there are sooooooo many guilds to review.. is there a way to filter guilds by region & focus? NA

[short flint]

They are going to be putting a NA only region soon. I think it is in #news . check that out for more information coming up soon

[crystal beacon]

ty muchly

[onyx knoll]

You can also check our forums that are already split by regions 🙂 https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/aoc-guild-recruitment

[crystal beacon]

Just wut teh dr rx

[torn burrow]

Full game releases???

[onyx knoll]

There are no date at this moment for the full release. The community estimates 2-3 years

[queen holly]

Hello community. I find the rules for the digital entry for the gourd contest very vague. And I noticed a lot more people who find it very vague. Can someone clarify in what extent you can alter lines of the pumpkin on the template?

Well a guildie just got the question answered. Theres goes my creative freedom. rip

[plucky pawn]

Hiya! You must use the digital template provided in its original format and not alter it in any way in order for it to be a valid submission - perhaps the clearest way I might be able to explain in accordance with the rules is "you may color inside or outside the lines however you wish, but do not color on the lines!"

This is to ensure that all folks who enter have an even playing field to start from and they're able to be judged more clearly against each other in terms of creativity/originality 😄

[low path]

Could this ^ be posted in like announcements or something? A lot of the current digital submissions dont fall within these guidelines, it would suck for them to lose their chance for misunderstanding the rules

[queen holly]

Was about to ask the same. Thanks a lot for the clarification btw 👍

[languid mason]

Hi, just wandering if the game is going to be f2p or is going to cost money in the form of one time payment or a monthly subscription?

[desert ivy]

$15 a month

[short flint]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Subscription_model

This is a no box cost, just subscription based only model @languid mason

[torn burrow]

How long will alpha and beta last???

[short flint]

unknown. They will last as long as Intrepid thinks they need them to last. It'll be basically long enough for them to complete the task they want to complete for each phase.

[gloomy lynx]

Are cosmetics Account bound or character bound?

[short flint]

account

[gloomy lynx]

Ty

[trim hinge]

Is there anyway to get the pets or mounts in the rotating bundles other than getting them?

[arctic sky]

there will be pets and mount and cosmetics to apply to such in game also just not hte EXACT ones you see in teh shop

those are one and done

[trim hinge]

Damn ok

[oak narwhal]

Will there be an Achievement system?

[short flint]

Yes - This is what we know so far:
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Achievements

[torpid nimbus]

Oh my god.. What a troll email we just got

Lol the title... Apha one key.....

Had a mi I heart attack

[ruby swift]

Made you look. Working as intended.

[torpid nimbus]

Mini *

Got reallly exited

[midnight musk]

Hey guys im an alpha one backer. I was wondering im i getting the summer and the new woods skins? Or should i buy them?

[ruby swift]

If you are a Kickstarter backer you have the option to purchase monthly skins a la carte from the Summer backing and the current month on offer. There is no "you get every skin for being a backer in the past". If you are an Intrepid Pack Alpha One holder, the same applies for purchasing the current months skins. One and done, once they gone, they gone. This image should give you an idea of the prices usually.

[unborn ridge]

for the glorious gourd contest, are we able to like.. stick other pumpkins together or carve out part of the pumpkin and relocate it (via skewers or toothpicks) ? I can't find anything that says it is against the rules, but i didn't wanna put a whole lot of effort into something if it might not be accepted purely for the relocation of parts of the pumpkin or for the use of other pumpkins

[ruby swift]

Hiya! You must use the digital template provided in its original format and not alter it in any way in order for it to be a valid submission - perhaps the clearest way I might be able to explain in accordance with the rules is "you may color inside or outside the lines however you wish, but do not color on the lines!"

This is to ensure that all folks who enter have an even playing field to start from and they're able to be judged more clearly against each other in terms of creativity/originality 😄

From earlier. Hope that helps.

[midnight musk]

Where can you use embers?

[ruby swift]

In the cosmetic cash shop after live launch.

[midnight musk]

Ty!

[fair dirge]

I really want the skin before, miss, very sad

[ancient pivot]

shoulda been ehere earlier

but dw some nice skins are coming in the future too

[fair dirge]

[junior pagoda]

ooo There may be visible items on a character that relate to Titles or Achievements.[2]

[fair dirge]

this

@lofty stirrup

[junior pagoda]

The one I wish I didnt miss was the night watch crow costume

[fair dirge]

house

silver sheens and gleaming dreams

[worldly vale]

ya the monetization on fomo is real sorry you missed it. The treehouse this coming set looks good though!

[fair dirge]

😭

Can I have the qualification to buy it

😀

[worldly vale]

I feel ya I really want this but missed out.

be cool as a gift to backers to give them a choice of any one cosmetic as a launch present in two years or whenever it'll be

we can dream

[lavish bloom]

I have the 375$ pack from last month. How do I buy items from this month?

[worldly vale]

you mean the woes stuff?

shop doesn't rotate til tomorrow

[lavish bloom]

The stuff that's there now, before it refreshes

[lean marlin]

septembers? It should roll over sometime today for the october ones.

today as in the 7th

[worldly vale]

just login on the store page

it'll change

[lavish bloom]

6th still for me, but I'm in the store and it only shows the normal 75, 150, 250, 375 packs

[worldly vale]

and you're logged in with the account you bought august's with?

[lavish bloom]

Correct. I can even see the 375 charge in my order history

Submitting a ticket now. Seems like I might be missing permissions.

[lean marlin]

They'll change over later today.

[worldly vale]

Ya I think it's bugged for you sorry to hear mate

[lean marlin]

There's no need for a ticket. Just give them time to switch from Septembers to October.

[worldly vale]

I think Dreamz is saying they want to buy the September stuff, not the October

[lavish bloom]

Na, I'm trying to buy Septembers items before it changes. I have Augusts already

@worldly vale correct.

[rigid rose]

What items or pack is currently showing in your store page?

[lavish bloom]

@rigid rose the 4 September packs are showing.

[rigid rose]

You are not seeing individual items?

[lavish bloom]

I am not.

[rigid rose]

Hmmm

[lean marlin]

how long ago did you buy it? MIne took a moment to switch to allowing me to buy individual pieces.

[lavish bloom]

August 17th.

[rigid rose]

Ya September individual items should be up... have you tried logging out and back in?

Also what browser are you using?

[lavish bloom]

Chrome. I'll try logging out, but I just logged in.

[rigid rose]

Ya try logging out and in then maybe if you have a different browser try it

[lavish bloom]

Logged out and in. Nothing. I'll try holds nose Edge.

Edge didn't work either.

Checked FAQ and found this: "If you're not able to upgrade your package or see cosmetic items, your account may be missing permissions. Don't worry, our customer service team can help fix your account features so you can upgrade and buy items. Please open a support ticket for assistance."

Gonna submit a ticket now. Hopefully gets done before it rotates, but thanks all for the help!

[worldly vale]

I'd imagine they'll be empathetic enough to still take your money for whatever it is you're looking to buy. Curious how they'd be able to pull it off though.

[ebon badger]

just screen shot application and proof of fund transfer/receipt and attach it to the ticket

[rigid rose]

@lavish bloom yup... does appear to be permissions prolly hopefully they can help you out !

[oak narwhal]

uh idk if this has been asked but how is the UI system in ashes hahah is it like BDO or something similar to WoW?

[lean marlin]

@oak narwhal still being worked on, but from what we've seen it's pretty good. Not a dumpster fire like BDO's. >.> all those menus.

[oak narwhal]

gotcha. thanks 😁

[worldly vale]

everytime it's shown they repeat over and over how it's placeholder so hard to say how it'll end up looking. But aesthetics seem very important to the team so I'm sure it'll look good. They even have a UI designer who was working on Diablo 4 previously now on the team!

[spark lark]

@fair dirge i feel u

i want that house too so bad

im so sad I missed it 😭

Id live in it forever

[fair dirge]

xd

be cool as a gift to backers to give them a choice of any one cosmetic as a launch present in two years or whenever it'll be

I hope so

[spark lark]

omg

I would cry

i just wanna live in a pretty house w a pink tree on it

[turbid basalt]

store prices are in usd right?

[steady ocean]

I believe you can have it converted to your local currency when you go to purchase.

[fair dirge]

What's the use of ember

Can I buy a month's skin

[oak narwhal]

i want a dark palace themed house ahaha but idk if thats a possibility in the game

[turbid basalt]

ty @steady ocean

[spark lark]

@fair dirge those are in game currency

for in game cosmetics

Once the game launches

[edgy quail]

Any news on the alpha 1 test? Or am I late?

[west jay]

Im seeing a lot of really cool Halloween posts for the contest but im a little confused i thought we were suppose to use the template and not change it at all ? has that changed recently ?

[fair dirge]

[wintry wolf]

i am confused as well. not changing the template is so limitating

[ruby swift]

Hiya! You must use the digital template provided in its original format and not alter it in any way in order for it to be a valid submission - perhaps the clearest way I might be able to explain in accordance with the rules is "you may color inside or outside the lines however you wish, but do not color on the lines!"
(edited)
[1:46 PM]
This is to ensure that all folks who enter have an even playing field to start from and they're able to be judged more clearly against each other in terms of creativity/originality
(edited)
[1:46 PM]
From earlier. Hope that helps. @west jay @wintry wolf

[west jay]

Yea thats perfect! im glad i didnt have to start from scratch then 🙌

[wispy whale]

i wrote these on the post too

@west jay

so basicly you cant touch anything that is not white on the template

it has to stay black and visible

but you can still do background lighting around the black if you wish. just not above it

Most submissions dosnt quallify atm if we are talking strict ruleset.

and i believe toast/interpid is gonna honor that, so better just follow the guidelines insted of risking a disqualification because some line was above the pumpkin border or something imo

[wintry wolf]

yeah... was going to do a realistic drawing but with those comic lines above its just ugly

[west jay]

Thanks for the updates!

[wispy whale]

Np, Good luck on your submission 🙂

[winter heron]

When does the pumpkin contest ends ?

October 27 it is 🙂

[sage plover]

If I were to play a summoner does the summon have its own leveling or is it just based on my own stats?

[steady ocean]

We don't know yet @sage plover

[worn wagon]

@sage plover The only thing I could find about leveling summons is

Summons can be leveled through the application of skill points to their active skill

[fickle wigeon]

how will the religion system gonna work

how many gods we have? and can we choose which one to worship?

nwm i found an article for my question

as i understand we can worship one of the seven gods

but can we worship ancients?

or ''the others''

[steady ocean]

No, but you will be able to worship the others in some form.

[fickle wigeon]

is there a spesific number of ''others''?

can i be part of the ''order of fate'' while being human?

[steady ocean]

3

As far as we know, race/archetype/class doesn't affect what religion you choose to follow

[fickle wigeon]

so being a necromancer wouldnt be a heresy

[round ridge]

yeah... was going to do a realistic drawing but with those comic lines above its just ugly
@wintry wolf I made mine already, also realistic, but now I'll just paste the template on top of it because meh

[fickle wigeon]

if someone were to follow the ''others'' are they gonna be the common enemy of all?

[steady ocean]

We don't necessarily know if the others will be the antagonists at launch or not. If it leads to players being corrupted often, then I'd imagine so

[fickle wigeon]

is it possible to see other player's religion choices

like somesort of banner in t heir name maybe

[tight socket]

can you chose to not follow any?

[fickle wigeon]

you can be atheist

[steady ocean]

You won't be able to unlock the religious perks though, so you give up a lot, but you can choose not to yes

[fickle wigeon]

how many types of perks we gonna get

and will it be effected by the class we chose

[steady ocean]

You'll be able to unlock a religious augment(s) if you progress enough in your religion, as well as certain abilities for those at the highest ranks during sieges and such

[fickle wigeon]

is there a difference between bard bishop and mage bishop?

[steady ocean]

We do know the augments affect the primary archetype's skill(s). However, we don't know about the special abilities for the highest ranking folks

[lean raptor]

You asking many spesific questions xd @fickle wigeon we don't know details yet

[fickle wigeon]

🙂

[dull bison]

@wispy whale Thank you very much for the update on Ruleset, it wasn't SUPER clear what we were allowed and not allowed to do !

[lean raptor]

im also really excited about religeon hence why im in a evil cultist guild, but we dont know much about religion. What we know is that there are 7 religions (one of them is underworld religion). We dont know how many are evil or if we can worship The Others and/or The ancients. This is just speculation, but some religions might have a evil and good side @fickle wigeon

[fickle wigeon]

tbh those question came to my mind when i see the harbringers guild and remembered overgeared

immortals or something was the name in the novel

sorry it was yatan church

[lean raptor]

i have not heard about overgeared xd. I was thinking about the cthulhu mythos when i came up with the name xd

[fickle wigeon]

they worship the 70 devil of solomon

its more of a chaos and order kinda style

i believe cthulu would be incomprehensible for the mind of the mortal

[lean raptor]

OOoo that sounds cool

[fickle wigeon]

i love the idea of being a part of the chaotic/evil religion as a necromencer

imagine several necromencers coming together and building a horde of monsters to siege a city

[steady ocean]

May be better to have this talk in #aoc-discussion Interesting topic though 🙂

[fickle wigeon]

oh yeah sorry, i carried away.

is there lvl cap during alpha 1

[steady ocean]

20

[slender cedar]

How does gold get created in this game?

[brittle ferry]

I believe base NPC's will buy mats and that will be the base of a mostly player driven economy

[slender cedar]

so npcs will give less gold over time?

or rather, they will give less gold based on how much gold is available?

[brittle ferry]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Currency

To get in that deep you start talking about Node location

[grim breach]

You can refer to the World Manager as well, https://ashesofcreation.wiki/World_manager

This thing also will determine the prices of the "certificates" (junks that you're selling)

[brittle ferry]

One end you could have a node with a mithril mine and the other side of the map doesn't have mithril, so that other node would pay much more

Yeah it's a complicated system that we know a lot of theoreticals but probably won't have much info until people start playing a Non NDA Alpha 1, and even then much if not everything is subject to change.

Info being hard evidence/facts?

[tiny cedar]

good question, hutchy

[sullen dirge]

So I'm from Australia and would love to pre-order, but uncertainty with servers actually coming here is always a worry. What would the refund policy have to do in terms of relevance to this scenario? (might be wrong channel but just querying)

[crystal beacon]

Did I miss the option to buy alpha one test access

[worn wagon]

@crystal beacon Yes, there are a currently no a1 keys for sale

[crystal beacon]

Did I just miss it or was it like that for a while

[worn wagon]

Nah, they stopped selling them a while ago

[crystal beacon]

Ok whew ty

[austere nexus]

was the A1 with the name reservation package?

[languid ridge]

Yes

wait, no there are two A1 packages

top teir has name reservation that 375, not the one below it

[lilac fjord]

Is true that when the game will be releaset it requires a monthly subscription???

[languid ridge]

15 a month

[reef prawn]

No box cost

[vital plume]

@languid ridge theres no a1 packages only a2/beta1 - 2

[languid ridge]

good call man still waking up haha

yeah A1 is just for dev and kick starters

[vital plume]

Haaha been up since 4:30 in the morning 😂

[languid ridge]

Same hahah woke up and had to do an hour of cardio, eyes are looking like I did way to many drugs to stay awake at this point lmao

[vital plume]

Damn!

[silk tapir]

are we there yet

[languid ridge]

yeah they're releasing it Oct 31st

[subtle dock]

patrich lmao ive been up since yesterday 14:00

[languid ridge]

lmao that's a joke btw

@subtle dock do you have coffee for water?

[subtle dock]

what

yes

[languid ridge]

lol

[subtle dock]

ofcourse

but i didnt drink at night time

drank yesterday 14:00 and today 7:00

24 hours complete in 30 mins

anyways

when the game getting released?

[languid ridge]

that's okay when ashes releases I'll go for a 72 hour straight stream lmao

[subtle dock]

id like to join

[languid ridge]

2022 or later, apparently dead on arrival if it comes out 2021

more the marrier! let's get it

[subtle dock]

wasnt it suppose to come out this year?

[languid ridge]

they're not even done with A1 sec let me find schedule

[subtle dock]

i think the hype will die down

or just die

[languid ridge]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule

[subtle dock]

by the time they release

[languid ridge]

depends how many Devs they pull in, high chance, but then again this is pretty much the MMO RPG we've all been waiting for

worth the wait, but if they don't nail combat which they're still super early in Dev then it won't matter much right? rather them release a well thought out game then it early and it do die out

*doesn't

[subtle dock]

well if it doesnt die by the release ive got a clan

about 7 ppl

[languid ridge]

sounds good man! I think I have quiet a few IRL buddies, not sure if one wants to be a guild leader or not, but definitely down to play. I'm really excited to see the other classes and how second desciplines pair up to change the feel

[subtle dock]

sound dank

hope they nerf 'loot' for the big clan ppl

so solo players get more

and ppl with clans get less

it only makes sense

[languid ridge]

I don't even think they know how loot system is working really yet, think it's just starting to get vetted out, focusing on the game play first I think

[limber spire]

youre not seeing the big picture

[subtle dock]

yea im just saying

[limber spire]

we'll see how it is

[subtle dock]

that if the loot system works like in wow

or something

diablo

it would be good

[limber spire]

it'll be another 2 years bois

[subtle dock]

it doesnt matter

we have time

[limber spire]

same here

🙂

[subtle dock]

💯

anyone up for some cs?

[violet lynx]

Hey guys! I'm confused about the Pre-Order Packs.
If I understand correctly buying a pack means I can, in the future, buy single cosmetics only without purchase the entire pack?
Also, for example, If I buy the Expeditionary Pre-Order Pack now can I upgrade to a higher tier Pack later on? If so, will I need to pay the full amount for it or just the "difference"?
Thanks!

[languid ridge]

just the difference to upgrade, and yes to buying the single items. nailed it

so like if you got a caravan in your pack you can buy the on off caravan

but if you didn't then you can't and you'd have to upgrade to get it

[subtle dock]

and also about the upgrading to a higher pack

it should have a discount of some sort

later on

[languid ridge]

not sure about that piece? did they announce it? they just said that you pay the difference

[subtle dock]

well it wouldnt make sense for people to upgrade their packs for full price

that just be a scam

[languid ridge]

no it's for the difference? not sure what you're saying it's the same price that everyone else is paying

so if you paid 175 and you upgrade to the 375 pack it's 200 not 375

[subtle dock]

thats what i meant

but not that big of a discount

more like 225

even if 200 makes sense

also the packs count as support to the creators

[languid ridge]

not like that's what it is. if a pack cost 175 and that's what you bought and you want the 375 pack then it's 200 dollars. no more no less lol and no discount just the difference

I was just saying it for easy numbers, idk all the pack prices

[subtle dock]

i get what you mean

[languid ridge]

yeah if they got a discount or didn't pay the same price as everyone else, everyone else would be upset for supporting for more money lol

[subtle dock]

the whole reason for the packs is to support the creators

and in return you get some items

[worn wagon]

-> #general-discussion

[subtle dock]

got it

[violet lynx]

just the difference to upgrade, and yes to buying the single items. nailed it
@languid ridge Perfect, I intend to upgrade later on but I also want that Pet :D
So I can upgrade whenever paying the difference, got it.
And about the single costmetics? I need to buy/upgrade the/to the package that contains, lets say a Naval Skin to be able to buy only a naval skin?

[languid ridge]

@violet lynx naval is the equivalent to a caravan, so yes, but it also includes caravans and vise versa

also from what I've heard is naval skins only apply to the type of naval ship it's intended for as well

[violet lynx]

Right, thank you so much for the help! 😄

[languid ridge]

anytime 🙂

[crude estuary]

so since i have seen guild recruitment already going on is there any information on guild sizes?

[pale spade]

300 max, you'll have to lvl up the guild though so different max size steps

[crude estuary]

ok thats massive. poor guild leaders 🇫

[pale spade]

Kinda average xd

[crude estuary]

well the few times i dedicated myself to mmos 50ppl guilds where already a shitshow with so much drama

[pale spade]

interesting o,o WoW allows 500 characters in a guild. Albion Online which kinda has the same PvP aspect with ZvZ also has 300 guild cap, and some guilds usually have secondary guilds xd I'm pretty sure secondary guilds might also become a thing in this game since you can form alliances and such

[whole isle]

Imagine you're just chopping trees or somethin an 1200 people just roll by

[crude estuary]

yea right

that aint ever gona happen

[pale spade]

[whole isle]

Now imagine they're all corrupted and want to taste your facehole

[crude estuary]

there is no way u can get 1200 ppl to show up in any place

coordinated in any way

all from the same guilds no less

[pale spade]

Someone hasn't witnessed proper ZvZ games

[whole isle]

Just saw an egirl is streaming there you'll get simps from miles away

Say*

[crude estuary]

since im a pve casual mmo player i guess ud be 100% right @pale spade

[whole isle]

What happens if you have like a full team of summoners in pvp or somethin

[pale spade]

@crude estuary "The minimum goal is for 250x250 players to be on a single battlefield. It is hoped that this can be increased to 500x500 over time." - Ashes wiki

[whole isle]

That would make me

[pale spade]

I've played a bunch of Albion Online with battles as big

[whole isle]

Happier than is reasonable

[crude estuary]

no i know the numbers. but thats nto 1200ppl from one guild+subguilds on the same side now is it?

[pale spade]

@lofty stirrup exactly

[whole isle]

I played like 4 hours of Albion just to smack trees so I'd like to say I'm an expert

I played ark, all I know is dying and losing all my stuff

[crude estuary]

also im not sure how viable the full sumoner team would be. @whole isle

[whole isle]

It's not about being viable

Its about bringing forth the bois

[crude estuary]

it would rly depend on how they do the summoner and subclasses. since players can just ignore adds and go for summoner directly

but i know where u wana go with that. id be all for a 500 man necromancer guild. just hanging out with them Z-bois

🧟

[whole isle]

Ever played league? Malzahar is like the most useless guy I ever but like

The BOIS

I have Crypt in my name theres no way I'm not playing necro

However I have to wait for alpha so

[midnight thorn]

will ashes be free to play?

[whole isle]

Subscription based it seems

[midnight thorn]

oh

oof

[whole isle]

It's pretty cheap tbf

[midnight thorn]

how much?

[whole isle]

An hour and a half at my job pays for a month

[midnight thorn]

i dont get payed so much...

[whole isle]

If I remember right they were speculating like 15 bucks a month but

Idk

Maybe like 20?

[midnight thorn]

out of my budget 😦

[whole isle]

Rough

[midnight thorn]

kinda

[true finch]

well if 15 dollars is out of your budget you wont have the gaming rig to run it anyway

[midnight thorn]

i do because i worked about half a year to get it

[onyx knoll]

Are you in a different country whose currency value is very different then the US?

[whole isle]

Hello differently colored name

[lilac lion]

$15 a month, but also regional pricing for different countries

[onyx knoll]

o/

[silk tapir]

#questions turning into #general-discussion again 😄

[whole isle]

No idea what you're talking about

[midnight thorn]

Are you in a different country whose currency value is very different then the US?
@onyx knoll yeah

[whole isle]

Yeah if its just 15 a month that's just an hour of work for me

[midnight thorn]

its probably a day for me

[onyx knoll]

They've said they would do some price harmonization for other countries, I'd recommend you check what World of Warcraft sub costs for you in your country, that could give you an idea of what to expect from AoC

[whole isle]

Does alaska count as a different country

Because I can and will cry

[midnight thorn]

im earning 21.5 for an hour and a dollar is eaqul to 4 of our currency

[whole isle]

Ok well people still seem to think we're all Russians so

[midnight thorn]

is the game going to be free at the first levels like WoW?

oh

i understand

[pale aspen]

That's a big downside of subscription models sadly. Also why most MMOs go f2p at least 1 or 2 years post-launch

[vital plume]

is the 15 bucks with or without taxes? since i saw when i bought the prepack the taxes is aditional to the price

tbh i don't care about the price of the sub, just wanna play it xD im just curious really xD

[crude estuary]

@vital plume u must be murican to ask that question XD

[vital plume]

danish xD

@crude estuary

[pale aspen]

@vital plume How much do you pay in denmark in taxes on top of the prepacks?

[languid ridge]

Actually I am curious for name reservations, can you reserve more than one name?

[pale aspen]

Out of curiosity from a fellow EU pleb

[vital plume]

well i paid like 90 dollars more give or take @pale aspen

[crude estuary]

ok seems like i was under the illusion all of eu already has taxes included in their stuff

my B

XD

[short flint]

Hey guys - Can you move the discussion to #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion so we can keep this open for new questions about AoC?

[crude estuary]

@languid ridge one name on one server

[pale aspen]

@vital plume For which pack? But either way, that is insane :S

[onyx knoll]

@languid ridge As far as we know the name reservation is only for 1 name, but they'll be giving more details when it gets closer to it

[languid ridge]

thanks

[ruby swift]

Yep. That is the info that has been released.

Intrepid Packs and Pre-order packs are the same thing, just the amounts vary. Highest to lowest in each category is the plan.

[carmine zinc]

It has alpha 1 in fall, but isn't fall this month? wouldn't a date be set by now?

[thorny warren]

Fall is more than a month, date should be coming soon tho

[tight socket]

will names include surnames? or will it be one name?

[desert ivy]

Can do both

Can have just one name or you can have two

[tight socket]

thats pretty cool, i know some games dont like you having more than one name

[onyx knoll]

@carmine zinc fall is until dec 21st, still plenty of time 🙂

[carmine zinc]

oh really? i thought Fall was Autumn, when is your winter then?

[desert ivy]

Autumn is also until 21st

They call Autumn "Fall"

[onyx knoll]

Winter 2020 starts on Monday, December 21, 2020 (in 75 days) and ends on Saturday, March 20th 2021 (in 164 days)

[carmine zinc]

oh weird

i always thought your seasons were exactly 6 months behind ours

oh look at that in my country seasons start, at the first of every month, not on the equinox like US and every other country haha

[broken yoke]

if I bought the Wayfarer pack today and upgraded to the Voyager pack say in 3 months would I be able to purchase mounts going back to this month?

[rigid rose]

no, the cosmetics are locked after the new cosmetics go up each month.

they are exclusive to the time period they are posted.

[broken yoke]

of so you can never buy previous cosmetics?

[rigid rose]

correct

[broken yoke]

I see so whatever teir I buy into that allows me to get individual items but only while they are on sale

moving forward

[rigid rose]

yes.

[broken yoke]

okay thank you

[rigid rose]

u r welcome! 🙂

[lapis sonnet]

Soooo, I’m seeing that each race has a pair of what it can be...(EG) humans the Kalar or the Vaelune. One focuses kinda like French architecture and the other kinda Arabian ish. So the question is...if Kalar Humans control and give the most XP to the node can will it be the French architecture? If the Vaelune do will it be Arabian? Like does your “type” of human matter or is it just your like being a human itself? Or do the two types of human count as their own race?

[woven vale]

@lapis sonnet Whichever subrace contributes more gets it's appearance, the other subrace doesn't.

[lapis sonnet]

Ok cool so basically u will get the appearance of the legit sub race that does more. That’s actually really cool

[errant kayak]

I just purchased the Voyager pack ... and for some reason it says APOC everywhere including the PayPal page, where it had the Apocalypse logo in the top right corner. <.<

normal or weird?

[desert ivy]

Normal

[errant kayak]

But why?

[onyx knoll]

it's leftover from when APOC was live, and will be removed once they update the website to the new one they're working on

[errant kayak]

It made my Hella nervous... I mean: I just spend 250 bucks on something that might or might not work out to be a good investment and in addition I get weird logos to appear

[fleet rock]

Obama prism is in the game yet or no?

[woven vale]

I just watched the video, and have concluded. No Obama Prism will be in the 3rd expansion. @fleet rock

[low garden]

Has the Heat and Harmony addons been removed already? I wanted to get some last minute items and when I add them to the cart they dont show up in my cart even though they are still in the shop. It should still be purchasable for another 18 mins 😮 or am I miss understanding somehting?

"Don’t forget that the Heat and Harmony addons will be removed on October 7, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific when the new cosmetics swap over"

[brisk seal]

Hi, I have pre-bought the game, and gotten access to alpha 2, but how does one download it when it's time?

[lean current]

@brisk seal We don't know yet when Alpha 2 will be accessible. When the time comes, you will receive an email with this information!

[crystal flax]

@low garden You have like 15 minutes

Oh rip I read the first part and tried to help before finishing

I just bought a piece or two from it a few minutes ago so it sounds like an issue

[desert ivy]

Hm yeah I get the same problem of them not showing up in my cart

@plucky pawn The shop is going fucky wucky

[small tangle]

yeah

[low garden]

sent you a picture of the issue @crystal flax

[crystal flax]

@low garden I see yea, you can post it here too if it helps someone else
If you actually click the cart button on the top right does it still show nothing in it?

[small tangle]

for me no matter what is selected it puts the same 2 items

[full badger]

@plucky pawn Might need your help with this one if you're available

[brisk seal]

@low garden I tried to log in and out yesterday when it said "this item is in your cart", and it changed it into "You already own this item"

[small tangle]

did not select these items and it shows these 2 always

[plucky pawn]

heya folks! just had the team do a quick refresh on the shop, so please try logging out/back in and trying again!

stuff will still be swapping over very shortly though 😉

[low garden]

yeah still nothing on my end. Same issue D:

[small tangle]

ooh and you cant delete from cart either

[plucky pawn]

please try a hard refresh and/or using another browser

[velvet spear]

Gotta use Firefox to buy the Fire Fox.

[desert ivy]

Still has the same problem even after logging in and out and using a different browser

[low garden]

^^

[small tangle]

yeah it must be tied to the account, nomatter the browser even on mobile

or idk but ye

[plucky pawn]

kk folks, will be digging in and investigating further - ty for your reports! 😄

[low garden]

pressing f to my embered kit I was late in deciding to get it so thats on me. Thanks for trying, hopefully we can get to the root of the issue. 👍

[small tangle]

^

[sharp jackal]

Was trying to buy a pack for 2 hours, RIP

[small tangle]

still cant?

[tight island]

shop hasnt changed yet?

[low garden]

it has for me, working now, just purchased and confirmed purchase

[tight island]

not working for me

[small tangle]

yeah i just tried it, relogged hasnt changed and was able to change my cart

[tight island]

[small tangle]

shops updated now for me

[tight island]

same

[ebon token]

Working 🙂

[lone magnet]

when gameplay

I mean alpha or whatever

Fall is almost over

when will the an actual date

[small solstice]

Fall ends on December 21st

[lone magnet]

lies falls end at the end of this month

[small solstice]

I'd love to see a calendar that shows that. 🙂

[lone magnet]

now you giving them more time good job

[small solstice]

Thank you!

[arctic swift]

Why does the price for voyager+ go up by more than 100$ when i try to buy it?

[worn wagon]

Probably the taxes

They're not included in the prices you see in the shop

[arctic swift]

Yikes, thats alot of taxes

[small solstice]

you need a tax break

[arctic swift]

Whats that 🤣

[plucky pawn]

@low garden @small tangle @sharp jackal @brisk seal sorry just catching back up here if there were issues that prevented you from grabbing those Heat & Harmony cosmetics before they got swapped over earlier this morning, please go ahead and reach out to our support team so they can investigate and assist you further!

@arctic swift that might be due to the local VAT in your region!

[arctic swift]

Any legal way to reduce/skip it? Cause its pretty much an extra pack in just taxes

[desert ivy]

Lmao

no

You can't just skip taxes

Well not legally

[arctic swift]

Hahaha, worth a try. But like damn its alot of extra money

[small solstice]

especially for non-physical items

[arctic swift]

Yea

Kinda crazy

[small solstice]

Yeah, there isn't shipping or customs to go through - very odd 🙂

[arctic swift]

When they open their division or whatever to call it in europe would it be cheaper? Since i live in sweden

Cuz i didnt need to pay that much taxes in WoW when i bought that

[desert ivy]

It might be a bit cheaper, but it would still include taxes. The difference between EU and America is that we in EU include the taxes in the price, so when we see a price, that includes the VAT/Taxes. NA on the other hand don't show the taxes until you're about to purchase it

So when you go to a store and see something for £1.99, you know that it's £1.99. NA on the other hand go to the store and see something that costs $1.50, so then they have to add the VAT/Tax onto it (so the VAT for their state may be 20% so they have to add $0.30 to the price)

It's the same for the Ashes store

[arctic swift]

Ah okay

Well damn. 480 is alot of $$

[silk granite]

But dam you get everything 😄

[arctic swift]

Time to open an onlyfans 🤣

[silk granite]

🤣

Source pls

[silk granite]

Its for a school project

[arctic swift]

I have pp, no big money for me :(

[short flint]

If you can keep the discussions in the #general-discussion and #aoc-discussion that would be ideal. Unless you have more questions about AoC 🙂

[steady jasper]

@arctic swift where you from thats a lot of extra money wth

[arctic swift]

Sweden

[sharp jackal]

are these pre-order packs updated daily? like deferent skins...ETC

[steady jasper]

monthly

[arctic swift]

New skins at the start of each month. And you'll get to see next months skins before current goes away

[sharp jackal]

i'm sure that i saw different skins few hours ago

[desert ivy]

Yes because they just changed

[digital yacht]

They just changed today

[sharp jackal]

ah ok

[pale quartz]

Will characters created during alfa/beta resert for the final launch?

[spiral pine]

you dont keep anything from the alpha/beta

[pale quartz]

Good! Thank you

[small solstice]

other than the enjoyment of being there and the experience 🙂

[flat widget]

So I know if I upgrade my KS to braver of worlds I wont get Alpha 1 but will I get the lifetime sub still?

[reef osprey]

@flat widget you get A1 and the lifetime sup

sub

[flat widget]

Oh I still can get A1

Thats cool

@plucky pawn Can you confirm this? Cause Ive been told by like 10 people I cant get A1 anymore

[digital yacht]

@flat widget u can’t buy A1 anymore, but if u have a KS account u can upgrade and u get the same beneifits as if u bought it the day of KS

[rigid rose]

@flat widget you have kickstarter?

[flat widget]

Yeah

[steady ocean]

You can upgrade and get it then yes

[rigid rose]

yes then you can upgrade it to get A1

[flat widget]

oh shit fuck yeah

[rigid rose]

Gradts \o/