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@lament timber
There will be storms, blizzards etc. in the game that affect the character, but mostly it affects buildings, crops and stuff like that
nice nice
Contacting support is probably the best option. Most people say its pretty fast
I believe it takes around 2 weeks for some support tho
is this not the help desk? not support?
im pretty sure you can reset your pass tho
@fair flare the devs dont answer questions here much
this is just for people in the community to answer each others questions
Please, check the #faq channel first. If your question is not answered, you may ask it here. This is not an official Customer Service support location. If you need assistance with your account, please place a Customer Service Ticket here: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.
This channel is for the community to help one another answer questions and resolve issues outside of Customer Service.
Intrepid Pre-Order Pack
Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack
@frank hound Steven also mentioned that alpha-1 non-NDA will have multiple servers aiming for about 2000 players per server.
@short flint thanks
Can someone tell me if the Headstart is true? How much it cost ? And why they do this? i dont like it at all...
Headstart is no longer available for sale, it was a perk from a high backer tier from kickstarter. It is a 2 day headstart, and only on specific servers, with a lot of things disabled like the nodes won't grow for those two days etc. If you don't like the fact that some people will have a 2 day advantage over you, you can simply pick a non-headstart server 🙂
Steven explained his reasoning for headstart servers here;
@mortal crescent This might be helpful: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Head_start
Thank you guys
When is the game coming out? And from where will i be able to get it? (steam?)
We currently don't have a release date beyond "when it's ready", it'll have its own launcher which will be available on their website when the time comes, and won't be on steam
The community estimate is 2-3 years, but that's just guessworks
Okay thanks 🙂
How do players sell things if they don't have a shop and there is no grand exchange
Go to an economic node and sell in the auction house or advertise your wares in chat
The sell their goods on the corner. The way every honest business person does it. Right?
What I just heard:
Spam in chat in the most popular tavern
Also you can fill orders on the tavern bulletin
And after you have established yourself some you are likely to have some repeat customers.
Community building 🙂
Basically how it was done back in the day
also if you want to set up a stall within the node you must have some sort of license from that node. @silver mulch
i actually think it applies outside the node as well. depending on how close you set up
@arctic sky you cannot sell items via the bulletin system. The bulletin lets you browse what is on sale in the area, but you cannot put stuff on the board neither sell it.
No you message the person saying hey I got this
@frank hound stalls can only be set up around the Market or a marketplace and you need citizenship to set it up. So no stalls outside the node.
Shops on the other hand can be set up farther out, but their inventory will not be listed. So you would need to make a name for yourself beforehand.
Ah, sorry, I thought you referred to the board.
The game I played actually had a chat bubble appear above your head and you just said what you were buying\selling and would have people jump in to trade
does anybody know yet if the game will allow ships to transport cargo from one coastal city to another?
Yes there will be naval caravans
@hidden urchin also be wary as they are still caravans and can be attacked and looted by other players
so does that effectively mean there will be overseas piracy? i can't help but think that's the logical outcome of having the mechanic of ship cargo transportation
Indeed, although we don't know the details yet
yep
is there a way to buy one of the pre order packages for someone else? i only see the option to buy it for myself
currently there are no gifting options
sad, wanted to do a giveaway on my birthday for a voyager pack. geuss i could paypal the winner 😛
Would creating a new email on gmail, using it to purchase an account, then giving away both email and gift account work?
Will there be a debuff when you wear your armor for too long? Like.. "Need to shower, rust rashes, etc" and a buff when you're in your casual clothes like "comfy"? XD
@crystal beacon no
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Ahh
Considering the game is all about Risk vs Reward. What risk do Bounty hunters have when bounty hunting. It seems to me they could empty out their inventories and therefore have a chance at gaining high tier equipment for no risk. What are your plans to counter this?
dying is a risk
U take experience depreciation on death,
Or would it be better to say u Accrue negative exp on death either way same shit different wording lol
Experience debt
The point of Bounty Hunting is that you're hunting corrupted players. Corruption is supposed to have barely any upsides since it's meant to be a negative thing that isn't encouraged. There aren't any plans to make Bounty Hunters more at risk because then that'd be incentivising Corruption in a way which Intrepid don't want.
How so? It’s literally the plan bounty hunters will have little risk except dying
I mean getting xp debt is still a big risk
true
@pure bough also corrupted players don't have a stat reduction against bounty hunters iirc
Wouldn't the corruption in this planned form always encourage people to NOT fight back if they know they can't win or have many valuable things on them?
If people are getting "forced" into corruption, which comes with so many downsides, because nobody wants to pvp. That would be a really bad thing :(
U aren’t forced into corruption
If u fight back u lose less resources when u die
If u are attacked and don’t fight back the person gets corrupted but u lose a little more resources
U only get corrupted if u kill someone and they don’t fight back
I'm not sure if those "little more" are insentive enough for some people. I guess we'll have to see
I'm confused at what you mean by people getting forced into corruption. You can't be forced into corruption.
Why wouldn’t u fight back? U less the person attacking was much higher level therefore u don’t fight back and they get a lot more corruption, they are doing it this way so u will fight back, u should always tbh what if u kill them cuz they suck now u get their resources
Yes ofc you should always fight back. I'm just talking out of experience from openworld pvp that there is a lot of people who apparantly "hate pvp" and sometimes just don't want to fight you, no matter what. And the corruption system would thereby reward that behaviour.
That's all what my concern about it would be, if corruption will really bring actual debuffs with it
It does, being corrupted u take a stat debuff, more corruption less stats (correct me if I’m wrong someone) its been awhile
Just something that should be kept in mind by the devs. Maybe should be open for changes on demand post-launch if needed.
I mean I wouldn't fight back if: they jump me in an extremely unfavorable situation to me. If the odds to win are slim enough, I'd rather give them some corruption and work off that xp debt than fight an obvious loss.
Exactly :D
That should not be possible or at least not encouraged
You also lose more gatherables if you're a non-combatant, thus fighting back does have the advantage of losing less stuff if you die.
I’m not fully understanding what u are trying to say Duke? U just want no open world pvp then?
If people don’t like pvp this isn’t the game for them, or they need to hire ppl to protect them or stay inside their towns this game is designed around open world pvp
@digital yacht Nono, the opposite. Well I don't "want" anything. I'm just telling my concerns about the system being open to abuse like that
I love pvp
@desert ivy Sure, definitely more downsides for dying a non-combatant, but I can farm more up if I need. People picking fights that extremely favor their side are worth the extra hassle to give them a little corruption to work off.
There is nothing that can be abused in this open world pvp system it protects both sides pretty evenly. If u die without fighting u lose some extra stuff, they gain corruption and lose some stats.
If u fight back u lose less resources and xp debt, and who knows maybe u kill them instead
It’s all scenario based no abuse
will there be a foot size slider (askin for a friend)
Probly yes
We don’t know the full extent of the character creator but it will be very customizable
On par or even better than BDOs
I believe Steven said ^
oh cool i- my firend will be happy to know
Which bdo's is insanely complex
does anyboyd know what will be the incentive for people to defend caravans? i know pirating a caravan will mean you can steal from it but why defend it?
@hidden urchin it could be your guides resources, ur nodes resources, their might be a monetary value from the “quest” to defend or attack idk if we have an exact quote on what u actually get for defending
Or cuz ur a nice guy
ok
Meh if u are willing to protect ppls caravans that can lead into more money cuz ppl trust u, they will start offering u money to keep defending
How likely do you think gold selling and rare resource selling will be and have they discussed ways to counter act that? In classic wow even though there isn't "pay to win" you can easily buy gold or accounts 3rd party to give you a huge advantage despite it not being a core feature of the game.
They will have extensive back end systems and active gms to track large amounts of gold being traded, and unusually large amounts of certain items being transferred between characters
On top of said systems both buyers and sellers will be banned
The active GMs will be there to stop the spamming of go here to buy gold
So u prob won’t see much, and if u do most likely have an ingame report feature and a gm can tp and investigate
Thanks guys ❤️ gives me a lot of hope
How do active gm's see what people are trading to prevent those transactions?
Cuz thats what other games like ffxiv say and there's tons of online sales
Interesting. Ya, all I know is that there's tons of gil/accounts for FF online.
Perhaps there's just 3 bots for each 1 that gets banned.
If AoC ends up being as big as I hope and believe it will, then fingers crossed they don't get swamped by the same issue plaguing SE.
I think to an extent it is impossible to keep it totally out of the game but I am confident if they have already taken as many measures as they have they will actively combat it, which is all you can ask of a dev.
Indeed
O yea it’ll be there no doubt but it’s a lose for both parties when it can be tracked actively the buyer might get the items but then gets a ban within a day, not many will buy gold if it’s that extensive
IE you can buy gold from a buddy that can play 20 hrs a day and farm and trade him something of lesser value several times it will look a lot less fishy than two players that never interact trade nothing for "exotic tier dragon scale x15, exotic tier dragon fang x3, Heart of the mountain" or whatever
Is the Alpha 1 still slated for Fall 2020?
Yes which means they have now until mid December to release but there may be delays as all dev's experience them. They have a stream this upcoming wednesday where they will likely speak on the issue.
oh cool
If I buy the $75 package, will I be able to play immediately or in the Beta test?
We're not even in alpha 1 yet. $75 gives you access to Beta 2 which is years out.
In the Beta test
75 is for beta 2 which is a long ways out
@empty void this command gets updated when new information comes out.
do you guys believe that ashes of creation will come out with all of its features before 2025? If so, do you believe that ashes of creation will become the next wow?
2022-2023 is my prediction for all non KS stretch features.
Before 2025, I think so. 2022-2023 is my guess. Become the next WoW? I sure hope not, I am hoping for better than WoW.
in terms of popularity i mean
Become the next WoW, no, I think WoW was a special phenomena that will never be replicated.
hope its the new L2
I figured you meant that Ilexcrystal, I am hoping for more popularity. MMO Monopoly, let's goooo! Not likely but you know.
It certainly seems like a different situation than star citizen so we can definitely hope!
Anyone who unironically thinks it will reach WoWs heights is a 
May receive better answers in #aoc-discussion @empty void
@desert ivy its possible, but highly unlikely 🙂
@desert ivy WoW was also not forseeable that it got so popular. Only time will tell what Ashes can reach
Question regarding: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Stat_growth (might be tied to A1 testers who experienced this already. Yes, i know this can easily change come this weekend let alone at launch)
We know that Race will seed the base states and primary Archetype determines stat growth
Do we know if the Archetype just adds a flat number to the character's base states with each level increase or is it a percentage growth?
[all numbers are examples for framing purposes - Not released information]
Fighter Stat Growth number:
Flat number growth: +2 Power and +0 mentality
Percentage growth: +20% Power and +0% mentality
| Stat | Vek | Dunir |
|---|---|---|
| Power | 20 | 15 |
| Dexterity | 10 | 5 |
| Constitution | 15 | 20 |
| Will | 15 | 10 |
| Wisdom | 10 | 15 |
| Mentality | 5 | 10 |
So in the example above using the above starting stats and fighter numbers.
flat number growth means Vek = 22 and Dunir = 17 Power and Vek = 5 and Dunir = 10 Mentality after one level up.
percentage number growth means Vek = 24 and Dunir = 18 Power and Vek = 5 and Dunir = 10 Menatlity after one level up.
@short flint you are talking about 20% from the base value per level?
Base value and/or current value.
certainly not current value, that would go ridiculous very quickly
@short flint We don't know anything about that right now and I do not think that has been mentioned by the devs as they will all be up in the air until they start actually balancing things in A2 or B1/B2
and what form you write it in %/fixed value doesn't matter if we talk about base value
Small numbers are easy to manage and can prevent ballooning. I do agree base value would make the most sense and easiest to balance game play wise. but more focused on the gains, not necessarily starting points.
doesn't matter whether they call it +2 or +10% for power, the result would still be +2
I can hit you up on that discussion (don't want to flood this channel with a discussion), but that is incorrect, all depends on the percentage/flat growth numbers.
nah it doesn't. If it effectively grows by 2 it doesn't matter whether you say its +2 or +10%
feel free to hit me up in aoc discussion
sorry for late reply. so it does seem to me that their isn't balanced risk vs reward for playing a bounty hunter. people keep mentioning exp debt but that wouldn't matter at max level. If you kill a corrupted player you get Top Tier Items, the gold from the bounty and your not taking enough risk in my opinion. Seems like this doesn't incentives pvp at all imo or fit in with the design philosophy of the game. bounty hunters should take some more risk seeing as they get some of the highest rewards in the game. i hope i get a dev answer on this topic because its really bothering me and i run a large community of players that also share this problem since we have the same problem in the other game we play. (i.e bounty hunters could team up wearing very cheap gear with nothing in their inventories to take down corrupted players hence almost 0 risk)
EXP debt does matter at max level though? 
I don't think BHs need risk because they are part of the punishment. They are killing people who have ruined other people's fun. It's not like caravan guarding or seiges where all participants are willing. Corrupted players are red because they have killed players who didn't want to pvp.
And skill deterioration matters*
If you're planning to play Ashes as a corrupted player you're gonna have a bad time in all honesty
It's not going to be a viable play style
At least a huge potential for bad times
@pure bough don't expect a reply here from the Devs, they're hard at work on Pre Alpha and trying to get Alpha up.
You're also not considering the rewards available from the Node you take the mission/BH Quest from.
still 0 risk for bounty hunting with the most gain
any other system that rewards full items & gold that easily?
I don't think you understand the purpose of corruption
The risk/reward ratio needs tro be present in things like caravans, where all participants are going in to have fun. But by definition, corrupted players, the prey of BHs, went in deliberately ignoring the fun of their victims. So why should the BHs going after them require the same risk/reward mechanic?
Actually, you seem to not understand quite a few of the mechanics
you should read the wiki
i'm not asking for the same risk/vs reward mechanics just for the bounty hunter system to fit in with the design philosophy of some kind of risk.
The risk is they can die
seems like to me everyone would want to be a bounty hunter but no one would ever want to go corrupted
Again, you don't seem to understand the point of corruption
While the debate can rage, In all honestly the things are going to change, not even testing Alpha 1 yet 🤷 this is an endless debate.
we have the same problem in another game i play and it ruins alot of fun for our community. people can just empty their invintorys and attack players with good gear taking 0 risk with high potential rewards.
i just hope the devs are aware of this potential problem thats all 😉
i understand corruption is a punishment but still BH system should fit in with the rest of the games philosophy or everyone will just want to do it.
You might want to move this to #aoc-discussion it's moved into a nice health discussion 🙂 I'll provide my feedback to this discussion here.
well i didn't want a discussion i wanted an answer to a question but yeah your right. Thanks Threather. imo people shouldn't try to give half answers in this channel but yeah 😛 it just floods the channel with unnecessary debate and the original question is now lost.
im down for corruption dropping full items, but getting weaker kinda is pretty counter intuitive
@pure bough by emptying inventory do you mean consumables or legit emptying all armor and weapons and legit being a one shot to high level players
i think, if you are a good player well organized, even being a scumbag you should still have a even chance
@tribal wharf Agreed
@tribal wharf Only problem is players will attack lowbies with shite gear, so they don't have to worry about the loss, level will allow easy victory.
But as a high level what reward is their for killing low levels ?
Corruptions is not worth it
Corrupted players can fight Bounty Hunters at full strength, it's just that they're weaker to everyone else
@spiral fiber Idiots love to get a hard on for doing it? I dunno, I just know it happens.
Well of course
everyone else you mean non combatant players
But those people that do that will get fucked so I imagine it wouldn’t be as commonplace as it is in other games
regardless, i already know what to do with corruption, as i do plan on having a huge corrupt guild
my idea is just that, we switch around whos killing
Please move this to #aoc-discussion folks.
and the corruption never stacks high
I am really hoping for some abilities or Boss mechanics with deep impact associated with them. IE a tail whip from a dragon sends everyone it hits flying or a fighter using a big cooldown for a powerful swing knocks people back or something. Any word of these types of abilities?
Bosses will have mechanics for sure, and possibly phases. We have no real specifics though. We've seen one of the early dragon bosses have a tail swipe + dragon breath, but their effects on characters may have been basic in the vid to keep it a mystery.
and I am sure in pre alpha it isn't going to be a 10th of the polish and product of what we will get on release. I just hope it extends to certain long cooldown abilities for players. I love the impactful feel of games that utilize those types of mechanics.
If you're planning to play Ashes as a corrupted player you're gonna have a bad time in all honesty
@desert ivy I wonder if there is a cooldown for corruption.
@languid ember what u mean by CD? when u are corrupted u have to work it off, there isnt a timer for it, If u just killed a low level and gain say 100 corruption points then jkust worked it all off, went back and did it again u will have corruption
very true, very true. So corruption is more of a penalty for killing others... is there less corruption killing players your own level?
Yes @languid ember And specifically, corruption is killing players that did not flag to fight back. There are lots of PVP systems where you can kill players without gaining corruption.
I see. thank you
everyone else you mean non combatant players
@tribal wharf No, everyone else means everyone that's not a Bounty Hunter.
This is a very nice discussion that should be in the discussion channel.
Where do I find what my order number is, when the order confirmation mail is lost/accidentally deleted?
@wind pagoda You can put in a support ticket
Can kickstarters/summer backers go back and order previous monthly cosmetics? I thought this was a thing but it’s been too long.
Please @memtion me with a reply thanks 🙂
@reef dagger kickstarter supporters can go back and "upgrade" their kickstarter pack but anything released during the "monthly" cosmetics are a one time thing currently
@torpid tangle ok thanks maybe that was what I was confusing it with
they said at one point that things may change but they kinda want to have the monthly cosmetics semi-exclusive to the time they're available
why?
scarsity is cool and all for items but for cosmetics itdd be frustraiting to be on holiday and miss that one cosmetic that would look perfect for my character/ rp
you have an entire month to get them, holiday shouldn't be too much of a problem in most instances @sullen relic
And you don't need to be home to buy them xd
fair lol
lol
Have they announced Beta1 dates?
only date we have is sthey are currently in Pre Alpha 1 and will open up Alpha 1 by the end of fall.. which in NA is mid december
A1 will also NOT be under NDA
The latest updates on our testing and release plans can be found here: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016315013
Thanks
any news an this apocolyse?
No news for Apocalypse, only have news for the MMO for now.
See the link by ModBot above.
Hey, anyone knows what is NDA? and why i have to sign it for testing?!
non disclosure agreement.
as for why, i was under the impresion aos didnt have one but there should be a reason provided along with it
@old spear
NDA need to be signed if you are going to be in any Pre Alpha 1 testing as they want a legally binding contract that you wont leak things before they are ready for the public to know if at all
is there any way to get into these signing contracts etc?
If you do anything that is under an NDA you will be sent a copy of the contract to sign. If you haven't been sent anything then you don't need to worry about it
As a side note, having an NDA for early testing phases is standard practice to protect industry secrets and manage public relations of the game
😟
h-hii
i have a rq
after i bought one of the pre order packs, can i buy the mount and stuff for the single price or do i have to buy the whole package with the mount?
Which level/tier of pack did you buy?
i havent bought anything yet
or which one are you planning to buy
like
buying the one for 75 and buy for example the mount afterwards sow i dont have to buy the one for 150
dont have that much money >~>
or can i only get the mount if i buy the pack for 150?
ehh
250
sorry
So since you're planning on buying the 75$ pack (Wayfarer) you will be able to purchase current and future cosmetics of the same 'wayfarer' tier and below.
You will not be able to purchase a cosmetic of a tier higher
TL;DR 250$ for the mount
Unless things have changed recently @full badger
Nothing has changed afaik
thankies, both of chu
How can I play the game right now, this very second so I no longer have to be bored in life? Waiting for the Alpha 2 is heartbreaking. T-T
even then you can't really play right now unless you purchased one of the $1k+ tiers
And even then you can't really play unless testing is actually going on lol
Pretty much the only way you can play rn is to work for the company
Thanks for the info everyone^^ I'll have to be patient.
Aprox how long do we have to wait for the game release? I know we’re still far off, just curious and excited ☺️
That varies @vital plume . Some think it'll be Q2 2022, some say early 2023. However, we have no official estimation from Intrepid and we most likely will not get one until it is much closer to the launch date. Keeping track of what testing phase the game is at can give you an idea of how close we are to launch. Alpha-1 with No-NDA is to launch before the end of this year. Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2 are unannounced as well and will come before game launch.
Thanks alot for the quick answer @short flint im hoping it’ll come sooner than later.. the game looks like one of the best mmos ever made, and all the features in it seems like a perfect way to play( my personal opinion ) no instant max levels like in most of the big mmos 😂
Does anybody know with the profesions. can you master one from each type eg gathering, processing, crafting or can you master 1 period.
@sullen relic You can only master 1 profession path, but you might be able to master multiple things in that singular path. E.g. if you choose to master "Gathering" you might be able to become a master in Fishing and Tanning but not the rest (or you could master more.)
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes
Correct^
in order to master anything you must master the tree, you can only master 1 tree and then you can master multiple within that tree.
how much and what exactly isn't fix yet though. Testing will hopefully determine that
What level to pick 2nd class?
And they want it to take a meaningful amount of time to get it
From what we have been told about how long it will take to get to level 50, it will be between 180 and 270 hours of focused leveling playing
so not that long
22~ days of playing 8 hours a day
u rlly just said that like its not literrally 11 days of straight leveling
That's the low side. It could be 33~ days of 8 hours a day
14 hours a day is something like 11-20 days of playing. Any time spent crafting or dying and having to make up that lost xp will increase that time though
^
crazy
Horizontal Progression would result in node progression though too right?
Why can't Apocalypse just always be playable? its a smaller game and itll hype up the main game so its a win win. Also money can be made with battle passes and items
It legit ran out of population, Babylonian! It costs money to keep the servers up, and it takes engineer’s time if it gets into a bad state
alot of people complained about them not focusing on the mmo and others thought they abandonded the mmo and ran away wit htheir money
thats true but kids paying for a new staff skin or mount recolor etc could help speed up the main game
All it would need is maintenance
I'm just salty cuz i didnt get to try it
It's already expected to make an appearance after Alpha 1, via the Castle Siege map and Horde mode map. Just need to have patience.
Yeh for sure
apocolype will coem back when they want to test more things in a bigger
after alpha 1 or possibly even alpha 2
Waiting for a lot of games to release these days
its 2020 cant help the beer bug
Lol
imagine waiting for games other than AoC
Haha
Alfa 2 in about how long ?
Played way too many alpha tests this year that I enjoyed
We got a tour of the old studio, will we get a tour of the new one?
@loud jacinth money isnt the issue with speeding up the game, its already been funded
We got a tour of the old studio, will we get a tour of the new one?
@surreal zodiac prob next year as they cant even move into it with the situation
okay thanks
Crafting takes xp away?
if I pre-order when is the beta 2 dates going to be?
After A1, A2, and B1
@tawny egret We are too far away from Beta 2 to know its release date.
We have an ETA: end of fall
Oh nice that is better news
what date was the next livestream/update going to be again
oh, duh
thanks
How long does it usually take to get a reply on tickets?
we also have a handy countdown on command for ya here 
5 days and still no leaks? D;
@wind pagoda At the moment our team is working on a bit of a higher volume of tickets than usual, so responses may be taking slightly longer - we appreciate your patience in the meantime! 
@unreal zealot Steven has leaked and probably been reprimanded already! https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/758489778345476096
joking about the reprimanded
awesome toast thanks
ahh @short flint ty didnt realise that was the most recent one i saw it in my guilds server
Alright, thanks Toast
@plucky pawn If y'all are ever hiring for CMs/CS to help with that backlog let me know! 
Lol, perfect emoji
Hey guys, when is aoc coming out? 🙂
not for a long time
Alpha 1 is slated for late fall/end of the year
aw it doesn't like us 😦
Poor bot so overworked, reaction times getting slow
give the bot some treats such as an rtx 3090 to use xD
@steady ocean we're keeping the listings up-to-date here!
https://intrepidstudios.com/careers
I saw it would come out at 24.09 at 9 PTD, I got confused ;-;
That was for the Battle royale: Apocalypse in 2019 I believe.
Yes a lot of people have been asking about those same date/time groups that someone thought would be funny to send out as 2020 dates for whatever reason. Sorry for the confusion!
is it confirmed if restaurants are the only way to get the best food, or you can cook them from your guild, it would be pretty dope to need to go to restaurants to buy the best food in your city, and would build a hub scenario like DnD stuff
If you are a master cook you can cook the best food. You can sell that food in inns/taverns in a node/at a guild/on a freehold tavern
Legit so much awesome work going into this game.
You could even be a traveling master cook and sell your great foods from node to node. And if you were pk'd you would not drop the foods
More than I've seen with most games tbh
It's nice that the only disappointment I feel so far with AoC is that it's not yet here, anyone else the same?
It gets better. After a few years you won't even notice anymore.
@ruby swift haha, that is sad...hopefully, we will see some real progression in the near future...gad i hope so
Good things are coming! Rainbows and unicorns all round. Fall will speed by and you will get streams from community before you know it.
I'm years in Unknown 😉
Anyone know when Braver of Worlds will get Alpha 1 invite?
Most likely end of Fall 2020
So December
At the earliest.
Better be on my bday so I can guilt people into buying it for me 🤷♂️
You can't get access to Alpha 1.
Only the people that bought the packs 2 years ago.
Well u be able to date other players and get married and stuff
Yes you can get married
Hehe thanks very much
i wanne get married ingame in ashes.. is that possible?
Yes, you can learn more about it here : https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Marriage
Any news on EU store?
They ditched MyGames and have 1 main store atm. But there's a VAT tax that'd dependent on the country you live in.
Hi I would like to ask something.
We at your disposal
I'm from SA and plan to stay on the NA server. But lets say the internet ping turn out to be too high and in the future they release a SA server. I would be able to transfer the rest of the months subbed for the other server?
Idk.. I would guess no due to regional pricing but that's a customer support question maybe
Hmm... So I should contact through the support from ashes site?
You can, it may take some time but they would have the answer more likely than the rest of us. I believe there was a command for that. Let's see here.
Thanks
No problem
Any leak guys?
no
Yesterday. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ramstrider
that isnt new
well i guess the 3d model is new
I don't remember the Ramstrider... how was it unlocked in APOC?
not sure, I don't remember seeing it either.
i refuse to accept anything that isn't a giant spider or an undead unicorn for next months cosmetics
@ruby swift search Steven and images he was posting a few ss last night of things
Is alpha 1 gonna be NDA'd, like are we gonna see people streaming it or naw
Does anyone have a idea of what the best class and secondary class would be for a blacksmith? Something that could help me get materials or smt.
I was thinking full rouge for the treasure hunting bonus, but any other thoughts?
Alpha 1 does not have an NDA@tulip grove
@ripe dawn afaik crafting is supposed to be unrelated to your classes. So you should have no class with an advantage
epic ty
People will be able to stream it
Crafting professions are separate from combat classes @ripe dawn
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule @tulip grove
Ty
Yes I understand that however, there wouldn’t be any kind of passive from a combat class that could help with crafting professions?
Or could be usefull to them in ANY way shape or form?
That was just the projected release schedule and is subject to changes I believe
Thanks though.
the only thing that would come to my mind would be the class with the highest mobility might be the best gatherer
You can’t be a crafter and gatherer at the same time
@ripe dawn it's still far too early to know what class combos will be the best for each profession
You can be both at the same time, you just can't master both
You start with 3 points, 1 point per gathering profession, 2 per refining, and 3 for crafting. So you won’t be able to do both
You will only be able to go all in with crafting
how would classes impact your ability to craft?
Idk man, that’s what I heard
I'm assuming he means similar to druids basically being go to herbalists in wow and shit
Anyway my question is too early to answer, thanks though.
thats because the classes/races have inherent explicit buffs for different "jobs"
since they are unknown (and as far as i understand it) are not supposed to exist we cant tell
Yeah, so like I said, still far too early to know
That's not how it works
@desert ivy go to the asmongold interview, they talk about how you start with 3 points, and you can only spend 3, every gathering profession costs 1, every refining proffesion costs 2, and every crafting costs 3, so you can only go all in with crafting
@ripe dawn keep in mind that it's not even in alpha 1 right now, so everything is subject to change, even that system mentioned in the asmongold interview could be restructured
Wasn't the Asmon interview the one where he was driving at the same time? There were multiple points in that interview where he said something that was incorrect that he had to reclarify later
Regardless it's a moot point and outside the scope of this channel
Is someone that has 2 accounts able to transfer goods freely between them?
the majority of in game items will not be bound so yes
You can transfer goods between your alts through warehouses if these goods don't rely on the carawan system
So i read something about intrepid tracking transaction between account to prevent rmt. Won´t that collide with transfering stuff freely between alts?
account items are bound
in game earned items are not
most games track that stuff and have triggers when high volumes are being transferred between accounts
that question popped into my head watching a stream of yours on yt @simple ether lol
There will likely be an auto-run function to just run in a straight line, but no auto-pathing to objectives like you see in BDO
thank you
There's also no "teleporting", the intent is the world should feel big, and local areas should feel meaningful
Are the nodes going to have preselected types? As in node number 1 will be economic, 2 scientific, etc. or will players be able to choose the node type?
They are preselected. You will have hints early on, in which kind of node it´s gonna develop into E.G. there is a market stall at a eco node at stage 1
You can recognize them by npc's too right?
Thanks
Ye npc and other stuff
The node specific NPCs show up at level 1 @celest depot
Will the preselected node types vary from server to server?
no they are the same on every server
I believe the plan is the map is the same for everyone, so the idea is things develop differently within the uniform map
I suspect that having different maps for different servers for the purposes of obfuscating information is one of those high effort low reward things on their end
ok thx - the different development of the nodes from server to server is a cool feature - so if someone later have a restart on a fresh server it should be diffrent - this is a really interessting idea - i really hope this come that way
When will we have more in-depth about classes?
When Steven and Maggie decide the information is ready to show off
I have a random question how long can we make our character names and can u use space and . ‘ , “ -
We don't know yet. All we know for sure right now is that there will be first and last names. First names are mandatory, last names are optional @vital plume
Cool thanks ☺️
No
The game is out or not?
Ok , because i read some channel and look like is open just for make sure.
Thank you 😄
Spiders are in the game for sure! So probably will be a mount. Don’t thinkkk one’s been confirmed yet?
dope if they do make one i hope its a big fuzzy spider
Oh, and they’re definitely big! Also some kinda fuzzy boys @quick dust
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arachnids
Even a radioactive looking one 😅
yeah the mount i think should look like a tarantula
😂 i've polluted everyone with my spider mount idea
the only spider i want to mount is quelagg >.>
the preorder packs the cosmetics in them will they be available after or will they be locked forever?
@iron spade the cosmetics currently are exclusive to the period they are sold in the store... so ya will not be coming back later.
so if i preorder now but i see a cooler pack later its too bad?
you can keep buying cosmetics
You can buy the additional cosmetics as add-ons later in the future
You can buy cosmetics Individualy after purchasing a pack 🙂
so i just add more cosmetic i cant like "swap" :?
ty
They have said that similar items will be in the game, just not that exact cosmetic that you can buy in the shop
uhm is there a way too see how the stuff looks in game cuz i cant find it?
There's no in game renders for current shop items, but they've been getting better about getting them out more quickly
Most cosmetics are just the concept art. You can find a few that have been translated into actual models somewhere
Not much has been released as actual in game skins
The best concept to in game as an idea is the "Shell of the Ancients" IMO if you'd like an example
https://nl.ashesofcreation.wiki/Tidebreaker
This is one that has been modelled. You can use that as reference of how stuff will look in the game maybe?
With a bit of creativity
They usually translate quite well from the concept art
Everytime I see it jump I can't stop myself from laughing. ,🤣😂
do u need to buy gametime in aplha/beta acces?
No
Nope.. the game time with packs starts at release.
no
how to reserve ur name?
You can't yet
But for the embers, if you go off the store prices atm, you could maybe make a guess that for example a costume cosmetic is worth $25, which is 2500 embers. No idea if that's what it will be priced in game but that's the best guess we can make atm
that will be availabe starting some1 time A1
We know that unlock of content is linked to node development, what if a raid is opened north west of the map, and you are settled south east, do you have to travel 3-4 hours there or will there be multiple copies of the same raid around the world, that if the same node type is same stage of dev?
from what we know you will have to travel
@pulsar sonnet Steven has said it will take around 2.5 hours to travel the entire map walking. So even going from 1 side of a continent to another won't be terrible, especially with mounts. But the world is supposed to feel large.
That level 10 dungeon they showed us I mean you won’t travel hours to go and experience it
Nothing stopping someone from doing so 🤷
My point is that it feels like it may be difficult to experience everything
There will be more than 1 dungeon they may not be identical there might be multiple dungeons that give the same items needed so i dont think u need to do every single one\
You won't be able to
Nodes changing, content changing at being there at the right time for any given content
Yep
@pulsar sonnet you are not supposed to experience / raid everything. That creates interdepencies and trade between guilds. You will need to get to know the guilds that are raiding for certain mats and trade the stuff that you can produce in your area and specialized in.
Ok i did not see it this way, is that a good thing to miss out on great content/raid, since I am more focused on pve
what's the latest news with AOC ?
Next dev stream is Sept 30th, Wednesday
what are they showcasing ?
@pulsar sonnet I doubt you'll miss content, since there's open world pvp/raiding and pvp will happen naturally. But no one stops you from being a pure pve player. There's plenty to do for every type of player.
Looking at the work they are putting in the design of dungeons and 100+ nodes I thought they were going to duplicate dungeons
They may @pulsar sonnet We don't know. There are a lot of factors that determine what dungeons/raids spawn and where. You can ask in #aoc-discussion if people think there will be or not and discuss the point, but we don't have a definitive answer here
what's the time frame for release?
Alpha 1 in late fall/end of the year is all we know.
No official timeline, best community estimate is 2-3+ years
dang so about the same as pantheon
Hello people,have we any info about stats and items interaction and how stats would be presented?I mean if we have 50 str we can equip medium armor and that will not us slow to much,more str less slow... and if we have 50 agi should we have higher movemant speed and att speed than someone with 30?
Should trawl this wiki page!
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Stats
All we know rn!
anyone know which type of freehold is this skin for?https://gyazo.com/830d4c7bba0533cef0441cf3b6f3dacf
My guess was either forge or shrine
Do we have a date when everything starts lore wise. As in when we go through the portals to Verra?
@crystal beacon Not exactly. Here's all we know about the lore so far https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore
Thank you
will you be able to see guild members on your map?
@dry harbor thank you
like see what part of the world most of your guild is in at any given time?
I doubt it
@light blade so far nothing but level requirements have been set/hinted at for gear. Everyone is supposed to beable to use all the types of gear, the difference armor wise being cloth has more "magic" resistance and plate has more melee resistance. Not sure on this but I think medium would have less armor than plate but improve dodge chance, maybe have a chance to dodge spells? Just speculation on my part there, nothing to back it up.
Heyo! I signed up on the website via a referral link from a friend and I have little to no idea what this game is. What I do know is I've got a fun Guild name brewing and was wondering how do I go about securing it?
There will be a period of time later down the line where guild names will be chosen and reserved. Since it was a paid perk at a certain tier of Kickstarter packages, you can imagine there will be a cost associated if they open it up to the masses.
Ah fair. Whelp still holding on to the name an its reserves so that it doesn't get released into the wild and someone else takes it.
Ok quick reserve the guild "Ah Fair"
Does anyone know the tallest height average of the dwarves and how close to base human height they are?
I want to know how tall I can make a dwarf.
The height customization has not been seen in released video.
Thank you
Hey Guys, sorry if this gets asked a lot but I did try to search for the answer before asking.
So I've lost access to my old account (Off like, last year I believe) and have given up trying to get it back (hazards of moving homes and my PC dying I guess) and was wondering if there is ever going to be the opportunity to purchase the older pre order packs again?
I'm tempted to buy back in (on a new account of course) for the current $375 package, however, I much prefer the old "DARK ALLEGIANCES" Package that was available earlier this year. Do you know if it will ever be available again? (well, the cosmetics in it) As an aspiring Ashes of Creation Necromancer, I feel that pack is just made for my character.
Nope, the pre-order packs are one and done. However if you know the email address you used to sign up, your account is probably recoverable.
I'll keep trying, I lost access to pretty much most of the places where I save Emails/passwords when my PC blew up, mid move. So it may still be possible, I just thought I'd ask anyway.
Thanks for the quick response
@noble flame You can try removing your hard drive and putting it into a different computer if the HD is still intact. May give you access to your older stuff, or take it to a computer tech to extract the data if you think it is worth it
Or just recover your email username/password 🤷
Yeah I'll try that out if needed, the issue is I end up having something like 10+ emails for Work, University, Gaming etc and am trying to work my way though things. I'll attempt a HD Recovery service at some point, though I'd rather have just been able to buy said items (That's just me being lazy though and doesn't fix other issues)
Here's a good one... Will we get combat pets of different types?
Since combat pets are tied into taming, most likely.
Nice
@grand tendon Also, owning a combat pet does not increase your performance. There was an example Steven gave i think in an interview where he stated that you as player with no pet would be at 100% combat strength. If you use a combat pet, your personal strength could become say 85%, but your pet would make up that 15% strength loss.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Combat_pets
Are pvp flags based on specific people or are they general based on if you hit anyone? Hypothetical example to clarify question: I am a higher level because I play a lot, my brother is low level but I quest with him anyway to help out. Someone mid level decides they want to gank him. I, a high level defend him, mid level doesn't fight back against me. Am I, in that scenario, getting full corrupt status because he didn't fight back against me specifically, or does his combat damage against my bro flag him for pvp and clear me of penalties?
If you want to attack someone (or heal someone that is already flagged for PVP), you have to manually flag. You don't have to be flagged to get hit.
If the mid level attacks the low lvl, the mid level becomes a combatant. You can attack the mid level and not get corruption if you kill them because you are both combatants
Thanks.
If however, you attack them first and kill them because they are being lippy and you become a combatant and they don't fight back, you will get corruption
I remember hearing about that much i just didn't know if i could defend my friends without worrying about gear. On the opposite end of the spectrum I can see it used the opposite way where i have my bro attack someone to bait them into becoming flagged so I can gank them without worry. (not that I would but it is a scenario that could anger the community)
It's their choice to attack/fight back. Most likely folks will be running in groups of 3-4, but that is a possibility.
We aren't 100% sure how flagging really works in a mass pvp type scenario. if your bro flags and they attack back, they might not be registered as a combatant to you (and be registered only to your bro as a combatant), or they might be registered as a combatant to anyone. However, being a combatant is better for that person as they lose less resources than being a non-combatant.
We do know that. If you attack someone you become a combatant for everyone, mass pvp or not.
Even in defense?
Yes
Not fighting back and dying means you stay a non-combatant. Fighting back means you become a combatant.
nod i get that piece.
If you have a question make sure to ask and I'll see if I/we can clarify 🙂
Hi mates, i just wanted to ask, how can i play AoC now. 75$ is way to much to buy for me in my country and i just wanted to know that there is any other options to join testing. Im really hyped for AoC
$2500 ?!!!!? Who would spend that much?
People who were truly desperate for an improvement on the genre, and had the free time to test.
Whoever spent that kinda money is insane
People who spent that much money have been helping test for 2+ years now, so they have gotten their money's worth imo
You’ve been testing for two years ?? @steady ocean
No, some of the PI testers have been testing for some time now.
Oh ok, what’s pi?
Although I may be mixing up my dates, as the release schedule says limited QA testing as of May 2020.
Phoenix Iniative, I think.
phoenix initiative

Oh that’s cool
Ah yeah, Alpha 0 was back in 2017, so back in that time.
I'm braver of worlds, Kinda happy, I'm getting in late fall, winter. Otherwise, I'd probably fail out of uni.
Yeah, this chat is for questions only 
He's PI himself
Yeah I saw 
👨🦯👨🦯
The current test schedule, whenever it does take place, is for $1000 backers and higher (Leader of Men) as mentioned in the livestream last month.
Following that, they will probably move to Braver of Worlds backers (500$) and then based on backer pledge # they will slowly stagger rollout to all Alpha 1 backers as per what Steven said.
So if you've got A1, sit tight while the devs work on the game, you'll be able to play soon™️
If you dont have A1, the full Alpha 1 will not be under NDA, so you'll be able to watch the streams etc.
subject to change atm. Currently (at least going by the wiki) yes.
People who spent that much money have been helping test for 2+ years now, so they have gotten their money's worth imo
@steady ocean
if you put this into perspective it's kinda funny how that's roughly 14 years of continous subscription if it's $15 a month
if exactly 2500
but now I went a little off-topic ;P
@pulsar sonnet No. There is no EXP Debt for dying in Sieges/Guild Wars/etc.
Same as how there's no penalty for dying in duels/arena/etc.
that's the flagging system, not exp debt.
The PvP mentioned there is the flagging/corruption system.
@idle siren There is no official quote for death penalty being present in sieges/arena/GvG/wars/etc. would you be able to clarify? (Sorry for ping)
They do not use the pvp flagging system, you are correct on that. But currently (straight off the player death page)
There's vague mention of it from back in 2017, but that's it
There's only this from 2017, but with context it's pretty clear its for open world PvP/PvE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1duIKUf8gVs&feature=youtu.be&t=36m23s
Will there be any upside to pk'ing? Like They allow it and punish it with the systems in place but i wonder if there will ever be a situation where there is any reason to ever kill another player. Maybe to remove them from an area your farming in given the lack of fast travel?
Following that, they will probably move to Braver of Worlds backers (500$) and then based on backer pledge # they will slowly stagger rollout to all Alpha 1 backers as per what Steven said.
@hidden crane
I thought all Bravers were going to be in the alpha 1 by end of fall?
@sullen relic Raw materials (Resources) are droppable on death.
oh sick
@meager dragon Nowhere in my statement did I say otherwise?
@sullen relic It's part of the risk v reward concept. You have to make the call on whether or not it's worth it. We can't really tell you if there is an upside other than the resources as Shaze said.
:D
thanks guys
@hidden crane it was your 'probably' when I'd thought it was 'definitely' that caused me to panic.
Ah apologies, I moreso meant they could do bravers first and then alpha 1, or they could simply open it for both bravers + alpha 1 right away
We'll know more in the upcoming livestream
Ah gotcha gotcha. I thought they were letting alpha 1 people in by order of tier, then backer number like they did in apoc. Thank you 🙂
That is most likely the case
However Steven himself said "We will probably do it via back tier same as last time" so subject to change
Hey people question, i bought a pack for 75, yet the website tells me i can ''upgrade'' to the pack i bought.
The way it works is, you buy a pack then you can upgrade by paying the rest of the money needed for a higher tier.
thanks, i was lagging in my mind xD
Are the bigger packs worth it?
for example, the ship? i like the idea for a special ship design xD
That's not for us to tell you, you have to decide if it's worth it to you.
Regard pvp risk reward I think armour and weapon should be prone to dmg and could break so we must fix it and for instance when we fight in castle siege 250 v 250 anyone who die should not be respowned before battle ends,so we have a bit tactic,fear and sense of acompishment
@light blade #aoc-discussion
Hi, I haven't checked in, in like a month or so, is there a date for alpha 1 yet? And what about alpha 2?
Alpha 1 sometime in the fall. Nothing on A2.
You're not gonna get an A2 date until A1 is nearing it's end/has ended
Alpha 1 is currently scheduled for before December 21st. Alpha two and beyond dates have yet to be announced due to hinging on the progress and success of the preceding phases.
there was mentioned some possibility of being able to buy into alpha 1. kind of hoping for that.
Hope is all we have
hopes and prayers
When does beta 1 start again?
After alpha 2.
if we dont know alpha 2 date how would be know beta 1
There are no dates. They stopped giving dates except for those they know they can hit. Timelines caused more REEEEEE than they were worth.
Intrepid does not provide dates unless they are sure they can meet them, so testing phases that are not next wont be announced until we are approaching their phase.
Intrepid will provide announcements and emails to those testers when their turn is approaching
The letter is due this month right?
will there be a citizen-specific chat channel, help wanted board, xp modifier for partying with node-mates, or any other mechanics to help build community among a node's citizens (other than the obvious personal stakes one has in node progression)?
If I am a green player, would I drop my raw materials or have any penalties if I killed by a red player?
So if you don't carry anything raw on you it makes more sense to just let people kill you?
The cost is greater for the attacker, right? With getting that up to x4 penalty modifyer and whatnot.
"Raw materials" include from what I recall the vast majority of mob drops as they wont be dropping gold and very rarely finished items.
The cost is greater for the attacker, right? With getting that up to x4 penalty modifyer and whatnot.
@stuck nacelle Only if they go corrupt (karma). But if you are flagged and they kill you, no penalty applies.
For ganking non combatants, yes the risk is higher for the killer. But Steven has stated that he is a huge advocate of players being able to if they so choose, make that choice to go kill another player if they're willing to disregard or accept the consequences
will caravans be stationary during caravan PvP or continue to drive?
stationary
@dark jungle Really? ;o
Cool
Will there be 3rd party addons like a wow system though Twitch?
Alpha 1 is scheduled for later this fall, though we don't have any specific dates. Alpha 2 will happen sometime after alpha 1 concludes, but we don't have anything timing-wise for it
Ok, thanks.
I'm an older player and I tend to play classes that are big, slow and tough to kill. I really dislike being "one shotted" and not much interested in being able to kill other players. Has there been any consideration given to situations like this?
you could play tank
no class can 1 shot in this game, unless u are killing soem1 like 20 levels under u
Tank sounds like a perfect fit for you
they want the TTK in this game to be somewhat longer than a 5 sec 3 hit combo insta kill lol
30-60 seconds i heard
could be longer could be shorter based on players but yea they want a lengthy fight
I always dreamed of having a character that people left alone because it was just too much work to kill. Also small groups of 2 or 3 attacking single players will that be able to happen?
yea u can attack any1 with any amount of players (in the open world)
Is there a Wiki site for this game yet?
Ok, thanks.
Will we be able to track contributions to the node advancement to see who in the guild is pulling their weight in terms of donations and such?
Don't think anything is known about that yet. Couldn't find it anyways. But it wouldn't surprise me if there is a similar sentiment towards such a system as towards dps meters
@hard imp
@hard imp Yes, you will be able to do so.
@hidden crane you talking about contribution to the guilds, no?
not the nodes they reside in. Nodes aren't guild locked
He wants to see who has contributed to the node.
He will use this info to slap his guild mates.
Yes he will be able to do so.
so you'd see the EXP contribution a guild member contributed to each node on the server?
I love how node architecture will be influenced by the race that contributes the most
Super cool
as the contribution doesn't depend on citizenship, but in which ZOI they have been playing?
iirc yes? Unless the idea has been shelved?
no idea honestly
does anyone know the pre order design for next month?
no
kk
and when does it change? 🤔
It switches out October 7th, and they usually show the new designs a couple days prior
okiiii, thankies ❤️
is there a date to relase the game?
no
k
2-3years out is a community guesstamization
that what i thout 2 xD
What is the blackmsithing class? Is it just a weapon and armor smithing combo?
They make the tools that people need for other artisan classes.
unknown at this time as far as I remember
They said 1 of the main trees can be mastered. Either gathering, processing, or crafting. You may have enough points to master a couple sub disciplines under that but not all.
Yeah. All I wanted to know is if I could master weaponsmithing and armor smithing, thanks for the help
will there be artisan gear/stats? (not talking about gear created from crafting but gear that boosts crafting efficiency in some way via speed, increased proc chance of "elite" gatherables or craftables or something of the sort). Or is gear all combat oriented? All I've heard so far is that gathering will require specific tools that you make and higher level tools=higher level gatherables.
All I've heard about, is there are potential benefits to going to a metroplis to craft. So perhaps different node levels can impact what you can make or the speed at which you make it
They gave the example that better carpentry might make a better stove that, when used for cooking, results in better food
So it seems a system like that is coming in some form
Why you think the game will release after 2y I thought it would be in middle of 2021
We still need to go through All of Alpha 1, then Alpha 2, then Beta 1 + 2
Why you think the game will release after 2y I thought it would be in middle of 2021
@arctic mortar I'd be happy with alpha 2 by mid 2021 lol
wuts the link for the minimum requirments again
Well i'm excited i just want play the game so it's good that i can play in middle of 2021 which is alpha 2
There is no date for alpha 2 yet 😉
If you have alpha 1 access is anything playable now or was that just apocalypse?
LoM and up are doing pre alpha tests leading up to A1 which incorporates all of the A1 backers]

THanks!
Not sure if this has been talked about before, but as someone who enjoys leveling and playing different classes apart from my main, how friendly is the game planning to be in regards to alts?
You will have a "comfortable amount" of alts. There have been no announced plans to make the levelling process for multiple characters easier as some games do.
Makes sense, don’t mind the leveling process being the same, but was just curious if you would be able to, for example, go in a player housing plot on all your characters in the server and not just the character you purchased it on. Stuff like that.
You can grant access to your alts to your freehold
Sweet thanks guys
Pre ALpha 1 has. Alpha 1 ramp up is soon.
Okay sweet
Are we able to exchange old packs for new on the store?
I do not think you are able to exchange - only add on
If you own a package, you are able to purchase future cosmetics at individual prices based on tier of package. You can also upgrade lower packages to higher, but you do no get the original pack cosmetic upgrades, just the current ones. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/257283936756039680/740203385919111259/Individual_purchase.png
This might help as a visual; linked at least a few times in the past. Shows the different packs and then which skins you get with each tier.
@sacred axle You can put in a ticket and the support team may be able to help you if you want to get rid of an old pack for a new pack. It's happened before.
No guarantees though. Just know that ticket ques are pretty long right now so it may take some time if they are able to assist.
Appreciate it guys TY 🙂
for the freehold is that a skin for a structure that does something or is it just an ornamental piece you can place
and if i get different version of the freehold over time, will i be able to use them at the same time or would i have to choose which i was using.
You can use a single skin at a time. We don't know if you would for example be able to place two forges. If so, you would need two skins if you wanted to change their base appearance.
They have not given specifics on which skins match which freehold buildings.
Hey guys. I'm new to the game. If everything goes as promised, I have faith that this game will be the best game ever in video gaming history. Sorry if you see this question dozens of time a day (which you probably do) but... when is the speculated/estimated release date for the full game? I know it's not announced yet but you've been here for a long time. What are your guesses?
most believe 2-3 years for full release
There is no official eta
So cant provide a valid answer
Most I can inform is that Intrepid announces ETAs when they are certain they can meet the date
So we wont have a launch ETA until we're closer
Is there any approximate information on how much it would take from Beta 1 to full release?
alpha 1 should be before years end
thats all we jnow
Im guessing maybe 6 months between phases
Thank you.
hard maybe on that, could be longer
I was searching the website for the races but I couldn't find the appearances of them. Do we have any in-depth info on playable races? What I could find is only this: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360049122614-What-playable-races-will-there-be-in-Ashes-of-Creation-
@azure gull https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races
Wonderful, thanks.
is it known how many dungeons there will be?
no
Nope, we know nothing about the number of dungeons, only nodes.
Dungeons will be available or unavailable based off the development of the nodes around them. Not all dungeons can be availabe at once. The dungeon boss mechanics will change based on how "farmed" the boss is. (this may be wrong, somebody else chime in if so).
Any idea when Braver-of-world will get Alpha 1 access? I've been MIA for some time due to work and my slow season is almost here and would love to get in on the action of testing 🙂

Fall 2020 all we know so far... probably closer to end of it would be my guess
Cool, thank you. Was thinking I might have been missing out.
They got phoenix initiate going last I heard... not sure if still going on though... that will decide when BoW is ready
Join us for our next development update live stream! The stream will kick off in 3 days 13 hours 18 minutes.
Will there be a way to know candidates up for election, like know their projects etc if you do not them at all?
Maybe? Probably more so word of mouth or something.
Yeah, I think you'll know them if they decide to stand, otherwise, you probably won't vote for them anyway. Also, voting is only linked to Scientific nodes if I got it right
covid lockdown and not very busy here... does interpid have any weapons/armors fan art page they consider taking ideas into the game from?
You could always share it on the forums. From what we know, Steven always browses them 🙂
^ that would probably be the best route to take.
i dont see a proper section for it lol
Maybe, community creations, maybe Gen.
It even says you could be 'featured'. So any type of art I suppose.
ahhh the forums

Ahh good because my SO is BoW and he's frickin jellis. 🤣 😂
Will the game be launched in all regions in the same time? (Us,eu, aus) ?
I believe so? Can't fully remember at this moment.
Yes
Will the game be launched in all regions in the same time? (Us,eu, aus) ?
@quick wind the testing phases will only be available in EU and NA servers. OCE servers are planned for launch
I meant like the actual launch after beta.
Sub-question: is pre-order of the game is locked to a certain region?
The reason i’m asking bc i’d rather not wait in EU while NA has alrdy started
@quick wind yes they are all planned to launch at the same time. There is no ip or region locking for pre-orders or the game itself
OCE servers may not be provisioned until Beta for Ashes of Creation (the MMO) and live launch for Ashes of Creation Apocalypse.[7]
Just to clear up any confusion that might bring up from Unknown's comment, Ashes of Creation Apocalypse probably won't be releasing again
Suspended, not dead.
All it was was a testing tool, I suppose it might come back but that statement makes the suspension seem indefinite.
Maybe it will come back, but don't want anyone to get their hopes up for it
theyve said its comming back
They’ve said it might I think if they need to test more systems
Alot of heat was generated from apoc, people were not happy that it appeared that the company we were trusting to make an mmo was making a battle Royale game instead. From their perspective its a good way to test, but a few other games released things like that, a hollow shell of the product and never went any further. That made people very very suspicious about apoc.
please leave this for questions, if you want to discuss it #aoc-discussion
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has there been any news on the alpha 1 release date as on the wiki it stats fall 2020 which is where we are now. all be it early fall
Late/end of fall
ok so that would put alpha 2 around early winter then or January
well heres hoping seeing as alpha 1 isn't for sale
Alpha 1 will most likely take months
it does say alpha 2 is permanent which I took as alpha 1 is more of a stress test for a couple weeks

welp heres hoping alpha one goes up for sale again
It won't.
Well they said that it might actually 😉
Alpha 1 access sales were suspended because they reached a number they were comfortable with without the server being too big/unmanageable for early testing
If Alpha 1 proves stable and productive, the possibility exists that it could go back on sale for the purposes of scaling up the test
I wouldn't get their hopes up though
If taming is my proffession i will be able you sell the mounts i tame to other players?
Tamers will be able to trade the creatures they collect with other players, yes
thanks
Im sorry i just joined this discord channel.. x) i just wanna know.. for example if i chose to be an Elf (Empyrean).. will i be able to wear other races's clothes too ? lets say for example Vaelune's rogue armor...
@opal cloud
@full badger Oh thank u x) sorry for the bother
no worries
will there be some sort of crowd-source option that lets me contribute to another person's campaign to buy the mayor position of an economic node, or will I just have to give the person money directly and hope they give it back if they don't win?
I'm assuming the bidders who don't win the position don't end up paying anything. is that not correct?
We don't know right now, sorry
None atm
Another question, don't know if you lads have an answer
If i buy a cheap version with the current theme
And i have the "option" to upgrade in the future
does it upgrade to new theme or old theme?
or mix even?
You keep your pieces from the old theme, and get whatever's new in the upgrade
you'll get the upgraded bits from the new set, and keep your current bits from the set you already purchased 
Example: If you buy the lowest tier this month, you get those hot boots, if you upgrade to the $150 next month, you just get next month's pet
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so if you wanted the replacement for the boots as well you'd have to upgrade AND purchase the other part?
@calm hawk Yes, usually a few days prior to the change so probably October 4th-5th
i mean in that instance described where they are upgrading
You can't replace anything
Only buy new things
You would be able to buy next month's accessory slot (the boots equivalent)
@calm hawk Right, keep an eye on the discussion channels since Steven likes to leak them sometimes
so you'd pay to upgrade AND pay for whatever replaces the boots next month if you wanted everything that next tier had
But the piecemeal cosmetics are only like, $5-$25 depending
You're not paying full price again
just trying to iron out in my head how it all works
is the freehold one an ornamental piece you can put in the freehold or is it a skin for a particular structure?
or is it like an overall theme for the property
Skin for a building
How i can play the alpha when they release it
The only Alpha you can buy right now @arctic mortar is Alpha 2. There might be an option to pay for Alpha 1 if Intrepid opens up more slots for purchase. At this time, Alpha 1 sales are closed.
just look foward to seeing some of the gameplay from streams 🙂
will Tulnar race be themed with demons and devils, or just beasts? i hope you add succubuss and incubus for the posible mutations! i would love to see it.
This is the best information we have so far:
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tulnar
thanks
they had angel and demon skins for high level tiers in the kickstarter
Lame
O.o
Is there any Intrepid Studios Merch available to support AoC?
Maybe some otter plushies? Asking for a friend 😋
Currently no, at the moment the only way you can support the game is through the pre-order packs and cosmetic items
do we know the next pack a little bit in advance or we just gotta pray its one we'll like?
they usually show it a day or two before available for purchase
@echo venture There used to be merch and they've mentioned wanting to do some again, just none available currently
Sometimes its holiday themed, like February was very pink for valentines day, but not sure of any others that have been. So you have a non zero chance of it being spooky scary skeletons. Then again the one before the previous one was kinda scary themed so they might not take that route :/
Considering how many months that are left before the packs end and how varied they are im sure there will be both more you like and more that you aren't so fond of
Is It planned to release comics/books or any other type lore related?
I think not lore related, definitely not before release due to steven keeping that close to his chest. It might come awhile after release once players have had a chance to discover the lore ingame first.
@late pewter ty brotha
@turbid basalt np. The new cosmetics will probably be shown next monday or tuesday (5th or 6th, since the current cosmetics are available through midday the 7th) and then you have a day or two to decide if you want to grab this pack quick before it's gone.
anyone here ever play shroud of the avatar? hopefully this game doesn't suffer the same problem of people losing interest before they get to play it, even though they already shelled out money for it
with it so far away for most, i think it's not an unreasonable fear.
guess the question is, "is the monthly items people can buy enough to keep people engaged till they get to play? is anything being planned to keep people interested? "
Interest is a funny thing. the Ashes community though is pretty set on playing. So regardless of cosmetic stuff and things, I am fairly certain that people will still want to play the game, whether during their testing phase or at launch.
So this is probably something that can't be answered before alpha but I was wondering about Quest design and 'breadcrumbing'.
So as a fresh character If i strike out to a distant node immediately would I be missing key breadcrumbs from the starter area for example that would limit further quest progression?
@muted timber atm, that's a yes and no. Have you checked the wiki for quests?
well the quests advance that node, right? so any quests you do before getting to the node you want to get to will advance those node
Yeah I understand the distinction between tasks, events etc. But I'm thinking specifically for the narrative quests, dealing with lore etc.
maybe i've missed something then, i was under the impression that we define the lore via what we do
There is still in game lore and history regarding the religions etc
Yeah there's still actual lore that everyone experiences
are you saying we won't know anything about the history unless we do quests?
Lore is the same across every server. The difference is what Nodes develop and who does what.
There will be several ways to unlock lore, quests are going to be the main driver. Keep in mind that quests will be gated by node development, node type, location of your character, etc
i thought it was like a clean slate. we know what happened before, we know we were carried to a safe place and now we are returning... now we define the history of the world moving forward.
Yeah my main query is whether there's any breadcrumbs related to them from leaving the gateway or if they can be accessed from any node sufficiently progressed
the lore is what we did after returning. the story of what happened before that is on the web site. not much to it. now we are returning, it's a clean slate.
It's not though. There is A LOT of lore that has not been released
That lore will be discovered in-game. It has been stated. Hence the question on breadcrumbs.
The game will have an overarching storyline that showcases the lore of Ashes of Creation. The "history" of a server is simply the decisions players make on their respective servers that affect nodes as they rise & fall, as well as which raids & dungeons are spawned.
That's why the game is a mix of theme park + sand box.
Lore is divided into 2 categories. Static Lore that is unchanging (these are narratives and such), and Server Lore which deals with "On day 22 Guild XYZ leveled their node to a tier 4 science Node." Which isn't really static, and is the player driven section.
As for the breadcrumbs, you might miss something if you go to another node, you also might not. It just depends on how the system works.
Yep, was just wondering if it had been mentioned before tyty
guess i just misunderstood then
So I have a question regarding gliding mounts. From what I can see, they will be hovering above the ground, infinite and not so much gliding. When I think about gliding I think about how it worked in Archeage. So the question is really if we know what it will be like, gliding or hovering? 
Not 100% sure - i assume you would see winged beasts flapping their wings to stay slightly above ground when moving. instead of galloping/running mounts, possibly beasts that "long jump" as movement. Maybe mystical creatures that hover because of magical ability over physical movement options. Just for the illusion of flight without actually giving it.
Yea no I don't think that I have seen the gliding/hovering in a video yet. So this is a little unclear as of yet it seems. 
Okey, thats really what I was hoping for when I heard gliding anyways. 
say i bout the expeditionary pack then after alpha 2 is done i wanted to upgrade to the voyager pack to get the mount skin would that be possible or is it unknown
They give warning before changing packs normally
So we currently don't know but it shouldn't be a surprise
Gliding and hovering are two different things, so I'd stick with gliding for now (you glide as long as your mount has elevation + momentum to propel you forward)
@steady ocean @south shadow
The angel/demon cosmetic skins are said to have a "hover effect" also.
Oh i didn't know the skin part, I hope you can land and walk normally instead of hovering the whole time though.
@ruby swift Yes I did read that myself but I do hope that there Will be actual gliding regarding the mount.
it's probably just cosmetic hovering @grizzled latch
I want to see the demon skin walk, otherwise I might not use it
For the gliding mounts, i guess u r thinking about the archeage,bdo-pegasus-type-slowly sinking while moving foward thing?
I guess this will be the case for the gliding mounts in AoC aswell since just hovering over the floor would be useless if they r moving the same as the normal Tier 1 mounts without any advance in movement.
That is what gliding is.
That is what gliding is in most games. However, gliders can achieve lift from wind currents and thermals. Would be cool if they implemented a system like that as skill based flight with limitations.
they might be able to glide through the air. if you jump them off a high place. dunno.
If nobody knows for sure, then this might be a question for the developers?
Does anybody know if characters themselves will be locked to a server? For example, could I play the same character on an EU server 1 day, and a US server the next?
Yes, you will be server-locked.
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Good
I mean, i could see people exploiting it, so makes sense.
I'm just stuck between playing with EU friends or US friends.
Server transfers are not something that they want to really be an option at all, due to the individualistic nature of the game. One server could have killed boss xyz and they dont want those resources going to another server who hasn't completed that feat.
I agree with that
it'd just be cool if each character could choose 1 EU and 1 US server
and play whichever they want
but not a 2nd EU or US server
u can just create 2 characters one for EU and one for NA
Yea, that's true. I just like the idea of working on 1 main character. Splitting the effort on 2 just sounds draining.
Having 1 character at level 50, doing raids and stuff and the other is level 12 with a few sticks and rocks in his bags. Hard to do it all over again lol
Has there been any mention of a debuff limit for npcs or raid bosses at all?
gm armor?
yeah they entered a 40 player raid
but because you know...they're 4 people they used gm armor
basically no dmg and a bunch of op buffs
yeah so we couldnt really see any of the actual raid combat for players
aw ok. But no mention of it by any other means?
Nothing on the wiki that i could find
yeah no leaks on it so far
theres a dev stream on the 30th though
so we might get some info
hope so!
Those kinds of numbers will be crunched during A2 with the finalisation of the combat system. We will get a glimpse during Alpha 1 however@dry harbor
@dry harbor We haven't been told about any kind of debuff limit on mobs. That will definitely be something to test during Alpha, etc.
will there be any kind of instanced (competetive) pve content? Kinda like Mythic+ in WoW. For the competetive non PvP focused folks out there?
Some dungeons will be instanced but it’s like 20%
For story content
But no mythic+ type stuff atm
80% open world 20% instanced i believe
check out the 2hours of footage they released
Alot of the dungeons and even raids will be open world. Only a small portion is instanced


