can anyone create a guild?
#questions
empty harbor
grim breach
@empty harbor
fair yew
They have said there will be underwater exploration so there is a possibility of under water combat
fierce cloak
Is there any mmo game that even has good underwater combat though?
grim breach
There will be underwater dungeons as well. However, what kind of underwater will it be, we have no idea. It could be a cave underwater with an oxygen bubble.
woven vale
GW2 is the only with underwater combat I believe.
fierce cloak
They’re meh for short term but nothing you wanna spend a lot of time doing
short flint
I'm going to be the best underwater archer ever! Watch my arrows shoot .2 ft! BOOM headshot!
lunar hollow
Is there any mmo game that even has good underwater combat though?
@fierce cloak Only GW2 is the one that has managed this.
ruby swift
Is there underwater combat?
@late wagon Character Updates: First up is an early pass on swimming, this is not final. Screen transition effects for swimming will be added later, but yes water combat will be possible with the usage of your skills.
From the end of July stream
Also listed here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Underwater
crystal beacon
https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/303329905758699523/720405596121202789
@burnt locust that was not the info i was looking for. i already have the package. what I really want is concrete info on when it'll start (a date), which we don't have yet 😢
i hope we get some kind of update on it, that would be cool to see
ruby swift
Yep, Intrepid only gives dates when they are certain they can hit them now. The backlash and REEEEE in the past when dates have not turned out due to various circumstances is just not worth it.
crystal beacon
yeah, I'm aware. thanks. I had asked about possible upcoming info, not for dates or anything
ruby swift
Hmmm...didn't see the exchange. The best ways are to watch #news for pings and of course the monthly streams. They are in that middle grind period of getting stuff done. Sort of like mid-range levelling in an mmo. Lots of work and occasional payout.
crystal beacon
All good! I appreciate it
thorny gorge
Do we know what the naming functionality will be ? Just a standard 1 word, no spaces name? Or will last names also be part of the naming convention.
trail spear
I believe it will be a first name and then an optional last name
But I’m not sure about the spaces
I would assume no spaces but I may be wrong
empty harbor
I heard first and last, but last is optional. havent heard about spaces. I would assume just a space between the first and last though.
trail spear
Though I’m almost sure I heard no special characters
brittle frigate
Has Steven or any other Dev discussed what fishing will be like in the game? And by "like", I mean will it be a mini-game or something new. MMO's fail at this so badly that other developers have gone as far as creating "Fishing MMO's", just to give the player's a more challenging experience when it comes to fishing. I know it's early in the game, but I have to ask if it's going to be complete shit like every other MMO. I just want some insight if anyone can provide it. Thanks
brittle frigate
I'm not talking about AFK fishing like BDO.
grim breach
I know what you mean. See point #3
desert ivy
I mean, if you're expecting an entirely separate "game" just for fishing, you may be disappointed
brittle frigate
No, not a separate game, but along the lines of "you have to know how to fish". Kind of like, if you went fishing in real life and have to know the location of a species, the baits preferred or lures, and tackle to use for predatory vs non predatory fish. Basically, I'm asking if you know if fishing will be more action based and not a "WASD" mini-game.
brittle frigate
Ok, I like that, but what's it like to get that fish in? Will you be fighting the fish or relying on a mini-game?
grim breach
There may be different types of fishing:[6]
- Smaller game fishing that does not require much thought.[6]
- Deep-sea fishing will have specific player mini-game requirements and equipment (such as expensive lures).[6][7][8][9]
- Coastal/lake fishing will be less interactive than deep-sea fishing.[7][8]
That's as far as we know, for now.
brittle frigate
Yeah, I saw that. I don't like the fact that it's separated into small game, deep-sea and coastal lake. It should just be fishing. Some fresh water smaller fish are harder to catch than deep-sea fish. Example: Brook trout vs Ling Cod. Brook trout are the pickiest eater's of the trout family which makes them harder to catch and ling cod will bite a bare hook. That should be changed.
unreal zealot
grim breach
They have some ideas and will implement them for testing in alphas. We'll see what they have in mind. Maybe we'll see more once A1 comes out.
brittle frigate
To be different as an MMO, I think they should shoot for this.
But with less bugs.. lol
And in a high fantasy setting.
If you took a look at this jackass, then you'll understand what I'm talking about. People who study and travel to fish can bring a community together. It's a great past time.
unreal zealot
this is going beyond your question and going into discussion territory so #aoc-discussion
brittle frigate
I thought about posting in there, but I didn't really see discussions in there. lol
unreal zealot
then try to start one if you can rather than be lazy and give up or you could just @ the person in #aoc-discussion from whom you started the discussion with.
unique locust
Sice AoC is going to be a RPer's dream? can I be a Old West Outlaw with a cowboy hat? Or does it not go that extreme? I'm curious on how far the creativity goes with RP since I never really play MMO's with an RP mindset.
undone magnet
Since gunpowder won't exist in the realm of AoC. I doubt you'll be able to fulfill the cowboy dream
brisk isle
Additionally, don't get massively invested in the idea of RPing in AoC. I'm not saying it can't be done, but without dedicated RP servers (which are currently not planned) RP attempts will likely be disrupted. A lot.
ruby swift
Sice AoC is going to be a RPer's dream? can I be a Old West Outlaw with a cowboy hat? Or does it not go that extreme? I'm curious on how far the creativity goes with RP since I never really play MMO's with an RP mindset.
@unique locust
But as others have said, they have no plans for black powder weapons and their attempt so far at a "gun" was put on a "maybe" status.
unique locust
Has there been problems in other MMO's where RPers and other players can't get along in terms of their playstyle.
Because I played ESO for a good while and they have RP guilds in replacement for an RP server. Obviously the two playstyles collide at some point or another.
And Cowboy was the outlandish RP character. I think they only way they can incorporate guns is as a cosmetic for rangers or mages. If even possible lol
dawn wyvern
yeah but with eso there is a specific pvp zone so interruptions wont happen as often. in aoc as far as i know you're fair game so long as you arent in a town or city 😛
unique locust
True. It probably comes down to figuring that out in practice whether in Alpha 1 or beyond.
I remember asking a question in the zone chat and a fellow Khajiit player was answering in Khajiit dialect.
I responded as a human to put it simply.
One of my main things is customizing my armor. I like playing the rogue character, I like wolves and their lifestyle. I want to rock some wolf pelts on my set ya know? That's about as far as I'll take my RP typically.
brisk isle
We're starting to venture into #aoc-discussion territory.
frank scroll
I wanted to ask
Is jewelry making connected with mining?
Or you collect gems in another way?
brisk isle
One would expect that anything involving accessories and gemstones would require the mining gathering profession.
But given the system isn't fully detailed yet, there might be alternatives.
frank scroll
I saw it on the wiki, and there was some kind of animal that extracts gems from the ground in freeholds.
Thats hella cool
Quarriors are able to be domesticated and used on Freehold farms to gather gemstones from the ground using their long tongues. These gems suffuse into the creature's shell, where they can be removed by their owners. Removing the gems allows the quarrior to continue to eat.[6]
Its so
Amazing
I want it
brisk isle
That'd be the quarrer. Though to use them would require the animal husbandry profession.
frank scroll
Hmph
I like this concept
You need multiple skills to achieve more advanced ones
Will animal tamers be able to sell those animals?
Economyyy
brisk isle
Quarriors specifically? No. They were a cosmetic on sale in 2018. What you can assume is that there will be a similair creature that serves the same function that is not a cosmetic skin.
unique locust
This is most likely what Steven mentioned on the interviews with having a sense of community and player-driven market in the world.
One can harvest the gems with the animal husbandry and can sell the gems to a jeweler for them to craft and either sell back or put in their shop
lean raptor
Would you have to use the caravan system if you want to move animals you want to sell?
brisk isle
Unknown at this time, though I'd expect that's likely.
lean raptor
That would be cool and high risk to do if people can kill the animals
unique locust
Be pretty bold and messed up to attack a caravan full of cute animals.
lean raptor
i mean if you can breed gem animals
then it would be hella worth even if they are cute
unique locust
its going to be a one sided fight for the defending team since who would want to attack animals
lean raptor
Gems are cuter
brisk isle
Friendly reminder that this isn't a discussion board. Please keep it to questions and answers.
unique locust
Oh no. We might have a PETA guild in the game. 😫
quartz river
Hey guys, does anyone know if there will be a option to add new walk/run/fight animations to you Charakter? Would be fairly nice to having a set of animations adding to the 64 class choices to build really unique characters!
frank scroll
Oh no. We might have a PETA guild in the game. 😫
@unique locust #aoc-discussion
brisk isle
Anything like additional sets of animations for characters (alternative walk cycles, move sets for the same weapons) hasn't been mentioned yet. While this is a guess, I'm going to say probably not.
unique locust
ESO has something similar. Could be interesting.
quartz river
Would be a nice option for the ingame shop as well.
In Skyrim you need to add new animations via mods...
lean raptor
I feel like people would make some ridicolus stuff if you could make your own animatons so i dont think that it will be in the game imo
brisk isle
If you're talking about Skyrim level modding where players can add their own animations? No. That won't be in the game, that I promise you.
lean raptor
I can't imagine modding being in any offical mmo, but possibly in private servers
brisk isle
AoC will not have private servers.
quartz river
Yeah for sure, that hopefully won’t be in the game. Just mentioned it. If private Modders can create new animations, there should be a way to ad this feature (eg via cash shop) into the game
I would definitely pay for a sick looking set of animations rather then a new pair of different looking pair of shoes
lean raptor
Would be cooler if you could unlock it trough progression. For example if you mine x amount of nodes you get a new mining animation
quartz river
Things like Carrying the sword on the shoulder, drunken walk style or slightly more gender specific walk styles
lean raptor
xd
quartz river
Uuuuh @lean raptor y nailed it!
brisk isle
Guys, I've already said it twice to the same group. Q & A here, not discussion.
unique locust
#aoc-discussion be appropiate
dire quarry
Yeah but they'd derail the current discussion
either way, yeah, what lyiat said lol
Anywas
I did had have one qeustion
Is there any place we can make recommendations about the discord server?
brisk isle
Uh... good question. There's no thread dedicated for it. Maybe the forum?
dire quarry
Yeah don't see anything there
brisk isle
Yeah. There isn't exactly a dedicated place for it, but I imagine the most likely place it'll get noticed is there. Much less likely to get lost than in the Discord itself. Sorry I couldn't help more.
toxic copper
Whats stopping a guild or faction or coalition of guilds to monopolizing the cities and jacking up taxes to prevent others from getting ahead or challenging them?
brisk isle
There are multiple factors that make that unlikely.
Factor A) The maximum size of any given guild is three hundred members, and that's if the guild spends a considerable amount of it's upgrades on increasing it's member cap. Given that each server will have a population cap of 10,000 active players, that's just not enough to monopolize even a decent number of nodes.
Factor B) The various election methods of the different governments also make this very impossible. Guilds won't have a good way of guarnteeing this monopolization outside of Economy Nodes, where votes are purchased. In Military Nodes, the mayor will be decided via a free for all tournament (through champions) for example.
lean raptor
Nothing is stopping them from taking control of a few nodes I think, but you can just work on a node in a different part of the world if it's a problem
grim breach
Node taxes are for nodes only. Cannot be withdrawn for personal uses.
brisk isle
^ That's also an important factor.
stable cedar
If I for example get the $75 pack now, I've heard that I can upgrade it later on. How does that work? Do i pay the difference, and what items do I get in that case?
grim breach
You pay the difference.
brisk isle
You pay the difference, and you unlock the ability to purchase other cosmetic items peice mail instead of in packs.
grim breach
You also get the cosmetics (and other stuff) from the pack that you upgrade to, but only the type of cosmetic item that you do not already own from the lower tier pack that you've already bought.
stable cedar
ah okay, that's all I wanted to know 🙂 Thanks
grim breach
unique locust
Can classes be built in atypical builds? Such as a tanky mage or rogue?
hard turtle
@unique locust It is possible to have a class that can be a tank and have mage augments to their tank skills.
unique locust
interesting
brisk isle
All we currently know about the classes is that you pick a primary archtype which sets your build and skills, and a secondary archtype that gives you augmentations that modify your skills. One of the offered examples we've been given is a Tank that has a bullrush skill. If he takes mage as his secondary, that skill could have a teleportation augment that immediately moves you to the target as if you blinked instead of rushing.
unique locust
Is there a stealth mechanic in the game besides the Rogue/Assassin class? Such as a crouch to sneak mechanic. And if there is, how does it work? My only real comparison is ESO's stealth mechanic in both PvE and PvP.
brisk isle
The Rogue has a stealth ability, and taking Rogue as your secondary will allow you to add stealth augments to other skills. That's all that's known at this time.
unique locust
Ok. Thanks.
crystal beacon
Do we know how far along the game actually is, are all the node systems, religions, guilds, classes ect all in place waiting to be tested in the alpha tests or are some still in progress
grim breach
Alpha 1 is coming this Fall 2020. What Alpha 1 will have, you can read them here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1
plucky tree
What's the current suggested build specs for such an open game?
grim breach
None. They are targeting systems 5 years of age at the time of launch.
unreal zealot
unique locust
Will there be crossbows in the game or just longbows?
grim breach
novel sequoia
There will be crossbows with scopes
unique locust
trickshot montages
harsh moon
Will there be UK servers at launch?
ruby swift
There will be EU servers. The location of those in EU have not been announced.
harsh moon
nice 🙂
dapper chasm
For Alpha 1 it was Frankfurt/Germany
frank scroll
Ye it will probably be jn Germany
I’ve also got a question.
How many servers will be there?
Like i do not mean NA and EU
But servers, for example EU-1 etc. Also how many players for one server?
lean raptor
8-10k concurrent player and 50k accounts per server. They have not said how many servers there will be in each region @frank scroll
rapid fossil
I have a question about the "Purple" flagged players, let's say that you kill a green flagged player and therefore you get "red", from that point on you can have a mass of green chasing you down to kill you and on top of that a mass of bounty hunters, if a green player kills a red player, does he turn into red ?
grim breach
if a green player kills a red player, does he turn into red ?
No.
rapid fossil
I don't know man, I play Albion Online as PK and the amount of what we call "Blue Police" = not pks that chases you after a kill makes you want to quit the game after 10 mins
charred timber
There’s no point to going red since it gives so many disadvantages
strange siren
do you know if there will be a lot of spiders or mobs that look like a spider? like mobs on the map, dungeons or raid bosses?
tranquil willow
there will be spider monsters in the world, we dont know how much. Steven did say that he understands that some people have arachnophobia, so they will take it into consideration
strange siren
oh,thank god. Im so worried about it,because checking videos about the game ive seen a boss that look like a crab/spider with 3 big black eyes and thats already making me think twice about getting a preorder of the game
grim breach
That is the Brood Queen.
tranquil willow
no need to worry, that's just one of many many possible bosses
strange siren
thank you for the info!
charred timber
just take out your great axe and slice up his legs 🙂
azure bane
Hi there, a quick question about the store. Im really wanting to invest into this game and currently you have the fire themed items in the store but I cant afford the top pack right now. Am I able to buy the Wayfarer Pack with the fire set then upgrade the pack to Voyager Plus later and it will include the full fire set?
onyx knoll
@azure bane only if you upgrade before october 7th, otherwise you will get the extra cosmetics from the month during which you upgrade
azure bane
Damn, thats what I feared. Thank you for responding
Also super excited for AoC, looks to be the MMO weve all been waiting for 🙂
languid drift
Is there any info on rogue abilities? Don’t see any on the wiki
frank scroll
That means they werent revealed yet @languid drift
vestal pier
there is no way to buy into alpha 1 at this point right?
pale aspen
Do we have any info on the topic of Windows 7 support?
By the time the game comes out, more people will have Win10 probably but there is still a huge demand for Win7 support out there (especially in the eastern world but also people who dislike Win10). And most game studios still support Win7 to my knowledge except those publishing under Microsoft (Age of Empires/ Halo)
Well, they do for other games too, that work well on Win7
New World had the same case
works perfectly fine on Win7
obsidian river
w7 itself isn't even supported by microsoft anymore
pale aspen
I guess we will have to see on launch/beta/alpha then
spiral pine
working fine and supported arent the same thing
pale aspen
@spiral pine Hence my question
CD Projekt Red for example stated that Cyberpunk and everything around it, will support Win7. That's why I'm curious.
random trench
Unreal Engine 4 supports Win7, UE5 doesn't.
Cross your fingers.
pale aspen
@random trench I know :D
Personally I don't mind that much since I will most likely upgrade next year for Halo Infinte (and work related stuff)
But I have tons of friends in russia, poland etc. who use Win7 and will never change or don't have the possibility even
normal zealot
Is the game at least running on DX12?
It's painful having MMORPGs running DX9 (Gw2 for example)
random trench
Minimum system requirements for alpha say DX12
noble belfry
will you be able to equip a shield and a 1 handed spear? or too early to tell?
🙂 🙂 🙂 im in love. Greek warrior esq. incoming
fierce depot
whats the difference between religions and organizations?
brisk isle
All religions are organizations, not all organizations are religions
Oh, yo- nevermind
fierce depot
ok thx
oak depot
@brisk isle @fierce depot Religious Organizations and Social Organization while both having the word "Organization" in them are completely different entities in Ashes of Creation AFAIK
warm talon
Are weapons class-locked?
oak depot
no
fiery anchor
no
oak depot
you might have a "tiny bit" better proficiency with certain weapons for certain classes (example: Rogue-archetype based classes might benefit better from daggers due to backstab bleed mechanics) but nothing is locked
warm talon
So what happens when a mage use a sword or spear instead of a wand?
oak depot
they hit things?
all classes can default attack
A mage might prefer a Staff or Scepter because of the stats it provides which benefit spell casting or spell usage, but they are not required to use it
warm talon
I see, thanks
vale valve
The system combat we have seen until now will be definitive? I mean static, boring combat consists in spamming skills like WoW. I would like to see enemies that dodge, defend themselves, fight back like in New World. In short, I would like to see a challenging combat system, an AI with many mechanics and whose difficulty forces you to generate strategies, that is, to use your brain.
What do you think?
onyx knoll
The combat isn't 100% finalized, but the general feel of it should be close to what they're trying to achieve. Concerning the AI behavior, you're welcome to join the discussion here 🙂 https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/44500/dev-discussion-20-npc-behavior
crimson mulch
Is this the actual game loading scrren?
If it is a yes then im sold
vale valve
@onyx knoll thanks
plucky gull
Does anyone know how cosmetics are gonna work? Im kinda hoping their like Final fantasy's, even though i know they probably wont be
digital yacht
What u mean? Cosmetics will be buyable in shop and there will be in game cosmetics that can be better than cash shop cosmetics
crystal beacon
Hey Everyone, Is there a beta going on right now? is it forever or just a small period like New World?
crystal beacon
Cool, So for the "buy in" beta, that has not even started yet then?
onyx knoll
@plucky gull There will be two type of cosmetics, individually applied transmogs, which will work similar to FFXIV's, and costumes which overwrite your whole outfit
digital yacht
No
onyx knoll
We don't know yet
cyan mica
Guys, im relly confused with all the fouders packs, keys and all that. Wht are my options if I want to play AOC this fall?
onyx knoll
Currently you can't buy into the alpha 1 access that starts this fall. They said they MIGHT re-open the sales for it if they need more people and the servers are stable enough but it's not guaranteed
cyan mica
what about alpha 2?
onyx knoll
the 250$ and 375$ packs both include access to alpha 2. We don't have a date for it, though
tawdry scaffold
Im assuming tickets are really backed up at the moment? I reported one a few days ago and still haven't heard back. Not trying to rush, just wondering how long it may take?
rigid rose
@tawdry scaffold they have been a little backed up.. also it was the weekend the last few days... make sure to check your spam folder in email as well just in case it gets moved there!
tawdry scaffold
OK, that's understandable. Cheers!
trim crater
Hehe, been waiting for mine for about 2 weeks now to. But ah well.. not to worried myself. The game is still far away and while right now it is taking very long, due to the fact that they actually pay attention to every single ticket it will only mean the tickets will get handled correctly instead of simply a copy paste message which will end up to probably only having half your issue fixed 😛
Prefer them to not fuck up my ticket and take their time.. even if they do the same for others
lean marlin
@tawdry scaffold need to remember weekends. It might take longer with those. Should probably see it getting messed with soon.
tawdry scaffold
It's good to know that they get weekends off. I'm happy to wait, i just didn't know what the normal waiting times were and if I should be worried or not. All good.
gloomy sable
@simple ether are you still doing a stream with amist gaming today?
hardy bolt
could have just pm'ed them that instead of asking here @gloomy sable 
vapid creek
Will you guys be able to record Alpha 1?
steady ocean
After the NDA is released folks will be able to yes
fierce depot
is it possible spy on other nodes and do those kinda things? cuz it sounds pretty cool when i think about it
delicate agate
as long as you have no corruption, it should be possible to visit all towns, just not sure about castles, so there can be plenty of spying
fierce depot
cool thanks
fair yew
There is espionage Steven has talked about it a few times but not much detail of how it will work in game
opaque cradle
Can someone tell me more about caravan system? Is it only about transporting item and auction/stalling them? There is no "standard" trading where you buy items from 1 place and sell it to another place for X "gold" ?
pseudo eagle
So, if I recall it was mentioned that you could end up serving the evil gods in some way or another. What all would that involve, as I'm kinda interesting in being "evil" but if I have to be a dick to other players I'm not sure it'd be worth it.
And in general, what kind of effects would being evil get me? Are there tangible upsides and downsides?
delicate agate
Can't find any clear information about this either and would refrain from assuming it is only about griefing and becoming corrupted.
Maybe if certain quests are failed more often, bringing consequences for failing and opening a path for evil. But at this point, we need more infos
pseudo eagle
Alright, thanks for the help.
steel blaze
i imagine being evil can trigger certain events in certain areas in the world and if a clan whose focus is being evil gets powerful enough i imagine there would be a major event they could trigger to cause devastation. That seems to be the vibe from the videos how most of the cycles for everything go
digital yacht
@opaque cradle check out https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Caravans
opaque cradle
@digital yacht i checked that and what i see is just transport of your items thats why i was confused that there are no what i said standard trading.
digital yacht
Mobs won’t really drop “trash” that u just vendor the item that mobs drop are like pelts or bones, and those are all usable resources
You will rarely see bound items so anything can be traded
Caravans are used to transport a large number of goods to another node
opaque cradle
If most of players are max lvl, and most common items you need are potions, ppl will buy them from guild member because they are all going to be in same area. Now if ppl want something extra, like very good crafted weapon, how you gonna buy it if you dont have money? Just curious what is going to happen with economy when there is 99% of max lvl ingame.
I tried searching for some yt video but no luck.
arctic sky
And will need to be continually repaired
digital yacht
And that is such a weird question to answer as there won’t just be max lvls running around
short flint
Also, They are wanting to keep low level materials in circulation by those low level materials needed for higher end stuff. Also, dungeons/raids will be changing all the time. New dungeons you might want different gear/weapons/enchants for that dungeon to maximize your efforts in that area. So yes, there could potentially be a cap where everyone has the best in slot gear - but I highly doubt that'll happen. @opaque cradle
dawn wyvern
With being able to craft gear just as good as what you would find in dungeons, I'm guessing that you (or someone that wants you to craft for them) would still need to complete the dungeon to get the materials required to craft the item? Or is the material for specific gear not tied to specific dungeons
digital yacht
We don’t know for sure but there might be specific pieces for specific gear
unique locust
Is there a stealing system in Ashes? Like can I go around pickpocketing NPC's and join some Thieves Guild?
faint delta
As far as I know players drop a certain percentage of raw materials when you kill, so you can 'thieve' players by killing them. As for NPCs I couldn't tell you.
thorny gorge
yeah cause getting ganked by a roaming squad of sycophants following a streamer should result in you losing gold and raw materials. Yikes.
desert ivy
But shouldn't be hard to just not roll o na streamer server
Plus 90% of them will quit after 2 weeks
lunar hollow
I don't think there will be many servers per region.
short flint
@dawn wyvern Steven has said in interviews that to craft a legendary item, you might have to kill a world boss to get the legendary component to be able to craft it.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Crafting
lunar hollow
Since each server will have 10k active players. So the chances of having a server with streamers might be too high.
thorny gorge
Idk, losing materials because you quite literally have no chance of survival against a litany of players all zerging.. sounds like a real problem.
desert ivy
I hear FF14 is a good game if you don't want world pvp
short flint
If you don't fight back, that group can become corrupted. If they are corrupted, they drop 4x their materials when killed and a chance to lose items. If you fight back, you lose a smaller portion of your gear.
Playing in a PvP world, you can't stop being steam rolled by multiple people if they want to steam roll you with multiple people. Best bet would be to run around with friends to help curb their bloodlust. Or enjoy the mayhem and slaughter them all!
hard turtle
If this is a discussion. Take it to the the other channels please.
quick thorn
So a friend asked me about Ashes and brought up a good question, what’s to stop a mega guild with a bunch of sister guilds or top tier streamer with 1000’s of followers from controlling an entire server and all the nodes and content there of ?
steady ocean
@quick thorn other alliances that are 1k+ strong
arctic sky
not all nodes are by voting only scientific
short flint
We aren't sure how they are going to manage the launch of the game and guild reservations. Also, the other 1000's of players on the server. Lastly, getting that many people to coordinate together would be really rare (albeit super amazing).
Plus, that'd be an interesting dynamic of a 2,000 person guild versus 8,000 players.
hardy bolt
When nodes are being attacked you have a declaration period and during that time anyone can sign up to attack a node, so even if a large guild wanted to zerg they might not get all of their zerg in to attack, and on top of that node sieges are capped at 200v200 i think they said and aiming for 250v250 max on release @quick thorn and then after that if they fail there is a cooldown so u can not repeatly attack and wear them down
rigid rose
Castle siege is 250v250 and they are hoping to get that to 500 v 500... the regular node siege we do not know cap number for yet.. if there is a cap.
As always things can change as the Alpha testing periods progress.
hardy bolt
Theoretically there are already fair systems to prevent zergs, but ye we'll have to wait and see :p
dawn wyvern
With the node sieges only taking place at peak time, is that going to be between a set time period or will the game learn when most people are on to determine when to have it?
trail spear
I believe it will be between a set time period which is pre determined
For that region
viral steppe
If 500 vs 500 becomes possible, will the maximum guild size change?
digital yacht
probably not, bc with 250v250 guild sizes will still be between 50-300
viral steppe
right but with 500 vs 500 a castle is forced to outsource guild battles and whatnot
*guild seiges
small pecan
I also don’t know that guild sizes are capped because of technical limitations vs not wanting massive single zerg guilds
If you want to be a massive zerg guild, you need to break apart into an alliance, for example. Some design balance basically
viral steppe
fair
quick thorn
So what systems are in place to prevent let’s say : Streamer Joe has 10,000 followers enough to fill an entire server , he splits his followers into sister guilds of whatever cap size it is, now the entire server is ran and controlled by one person at the top just rotating Mayorships and Castles! As a game developer, how does one combat that ?
hardy bolt
hard turtle
@quick thorn This is... impossible.
hardy bolt
I literally told u and u even pm'ed me and i further explained and now u ask here again.. 
hard turtle
Nobody is able to have such a stroke of luck of having such numbers without randoms as well.
ruby swift
Probably a better topic for a forum post. All you are going to get here is speculation and further REEE which will derail the channel.
zealous dust
Is there likely to be a small team vs small team mode of PvP?
ruby swift
As in arenas. Yes. Other than that it will be free form.
full badger
Is there likely to be a small team vs small team mode of PvP?
@zealous dust For arena they are considering various formats including 1v1, 3v3 and 5v5
zealous dust
I am... very excited.
I was a big fan of WoW's 3v3 arena format for over a decade. I'm not looking for a carbon copy of course but there's something endearing about having your small band of comrades and climbing the ladder.
digital yacht
I also don’t know that guild sizes are capped because of technical limitations vs not wanting massive single zerg guilds
@small pecan The numbers we have right now is it caps at 300 if u spec ur guild points(Guild Skill tree essentially) into Member size
small pecan
Yes! They’re capped at 300. I could’ve written that more clearly though
dawn wyvern
So an ideal guild may be a smaller one specced into everything capping at 30-50 so they can still do the 40 man dungeon content and have access to everything.
Thats a really cool way of doing things I've never seen that sort of system before
small pecan
Yup! We’ll see how it ends up 😄
digital yacht
just so u know we have no idea what any of the guild benefits are except that we can raise the cap so a smaller guild will/can be better in retrospect, but we shall wait and see once we see the benefits 🙂
dawn wyvern
How many guilds can you join at once? Just the one?
small pecan
Uno!
digital yacht
Just 1
hard turtle
What is the starting/lowest guild size in AoC?
dawn wyvern
I thought i read that you needed minimum of 5 people to create a guild somewhere
Yeah 5 people or thereabouts minimum
small pecan
Er, starting 5 to form, but an initial cap > 5!
junior pagoda
Anyone planning to start their own guild for the first time?
digital yacht
dawn wyvern
I hope that the maximum size is 50 just so the guild can still do 40 man content together without needing to pick up stragglers. Though i guess this has gone too far into the realm of discussions now 😛
So i can see that one of the potential benefits within guild progression is passive skills. I'm guessing if this is implemented that there will be a hard cap on the amount of passive skills a guild can provide its players?
arctic sky
think of guilds having their own skill trees
digital yacht
Its too early to tell but if u dont spec into Guild Size u can spec into everything else, its kind of what works for your guild, but until we see any of those benefits itll be hard to tell
dawn wyvern
I'm just considering after looking at the potential passive skills that it may benefit players more overall to have a tanking guild to focus on the block passive and heavy armour passive for example if there is a hard cap
stiff rampart
I'm sure there will be some specs that are meh, where it may make sense to increase size
stuck dock
If you upgrade a pre order pack a month later I know you keep the original cosmetics but can you still buy the remaining cosmetics from the previous month?
full badger
Right now, pretty much everything surrounding guilds is pure speculation
dawn wyvern
It may make for interesting gameplay for guilds to need to hire a tank from another guild to complete a dungeon
digital yacht
@stuck dock no
full badger
If you upgrade a pre order pack a month later I know you keep the original cosmetics but can you still buy the remaining cosmetics from the previous month?
@stuck dock No, you cannot
stuck dock
Ight thanks
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
dawn wyvern
Dont worry i have a fresh question every 3 messages 😛
arctic sky
feel free to chat in ashes discussion.. we are talking about pc specs.. again
rare salmon
Can you attack your parent node if you are a part of a vassal node? Or at least participate in a siege someone else declares?
undone magnet
If you're a vassal.
Partake in as an attacker in a siege yes.
Declare war no.
steady ocean
@rare salmon @undone magnet Bojan, if you are a vassal citizen you cannot attack your parent node. You can only give aid against your parent node in the form of supplies/currency/hire mercs to help the sieging group. There is no civil war
dawn wyvern
Is there any indication on how long it would take to travel from one side of the map to the other without fast travel?
hard turtle
@dawn wyvern To help with understanding the size. Skyrim's world is 37 square km compared to the 480 square km of Vera.
hexed stratus
i thought it would be bigger
dawn wyvern
So it might take a full night of travel to get to a dungeon you want to do only to have to log off because half of the participants have gone to bed for work the next morning?
hexed stratus
i guess so
dawn wyvern
That just doesn't seem very fun at all. Will there be a way to fast travel to dungeons at least? Because if you've spent a huge amount of time travelling somewhere to complete a dungeon, you aren't exactly going to keep playing and move away from the location if someone has to log out
hard turtle
@dawn wyvern There are a few fast travel choices in the game. But you can't do it from anywhere.
arctic sky
they want you to be more local
meager dragon
I am so excited at the thought of finally getting regional economies again
desert ivy
Get a flying mount, then it shouldn't take too long to get across the map 
dawn wyvern
I'll make sure to be one of the 10-20 people out of 10,000 to get one every month 😂
hexed stratus
lol
steady ocean
@dawn wyvern Steven has said about 2-2.5 hours on foot. Faster on mounts
dawn wyvern
So with a horse it may only be half an hour of travel going off google telling me that a horses average speed long distance is about 48 km/h 😛
ruby swift
I believe the quote out there is "several hours" going from side to side diagonally.
dawn wyvern
Also, what if any protections will be in place for running a dungeon if by chance your main tank(s) leave? Will the group have to wait 30 minutes-2.5h waiting for replacements to arrive? Or with the lack of fast travel will that whole nights effort be wasted
hexed stratus
invest in a scientific node
ruby swift
Have better friends
hexed stratus
ok?
dawn wyvern
The scientific node can only fast travel in a near vicinity though from what I've heard? Plus people have lives you cant fault someone if something happens irl.
ruby swift
This is more of a discussion than questions. There are several forum posts that address this (if they have not been combined into a mega thread yet) might be a better place for your feedback about fast travel there.
dawn wyvern
Well I've asked two questions one of which i got an answer to regarding a scientific node in which i asked a follow up question (googled the answer and scientific nodes wont help a whole lot if there isnt a scientific metropolis with vassal nodes near where you are)
latent oyster
Are you talking about the protections so a night isnt wasted if the main tank needs to leave? As far as we know, none atm.
dawn wyvern
Righto so the family summon skill seems to be able to do that partially. With the family summon skill, can you add/remove people from your family at will, and if so can you do it remotely so as to spawn in missing members?
ruby swift
There will be a cooldown to keep people from abusing the system. Still to be worked out in testing.
latent oyster
Uknown beat me to it, but yeah.
Family is for like your core group/squad that you consistant run with.
dawn wyvern
Yeah just found the quote
hard turtle
Can we confirm if there are emotes that need a second person to perform? (Handshake, hug.)
brittle ferry
No?
Yes
Some animations will be agreed-upon emotes that you can initiate with other characters
If you're asking if they're in game already, I'd venture to say no.
hard turtle
Heres hoping.
brittle ferry
For sure, definitely a RP lovers dream.
trim oracle
Will alpha 2 be available to play 24/7?
latent oyster
No info on the presistancy of a2 yet. I think the goal is yes but also very much "see how a1 goes and if its feasible or reasonable"
undone magnet
@steady ocean I was under the impression vassals still had the option to partake in sieges. I don't see where on the wiki it says they aren't allowed to siege the parent. War =/= siege
quick sand
im a bit confused about pre ordering if i buy the $75 pack can i then buy the boat skin separately
grim breach
If you buy the $75 pack, you can only buy the type of cosmetic that's provided in the $75 pack, which is an accessory.
See this image for more details.
quick sand
ok thanks
steady ocean
@undone magnet
Since vassals count as allies, they cannot register to attack as far as I've seen it. (could be construed as they cannot attack the parent nodes allies)
dawn wyvern
Are mounts going to be accessible from the beginning or are they going to be introduced at later stages
steady ocean
The devs have said that there may be a starter mount you can get from the starter area.
digital yacht
Also, what if any protections will be in place for running a dungeon if by chance your main tank(s) leave? Will the group have to wait 30 minutes-2.5h waiting for replacements to arrive? Or with the lack of fast travel will that whole nights effort be wasted
@dawn wyvern Just stating incase u dont know, most dungeons in the game will be open world, so u wont necessarily need a tank available on hand if there are other groups in that dungeon 🙂
fair yew
Mounts will be available after a quest line not immediately
dawn wyvern
@digital yacht i did not know this this concept is new to me 
So you might just be able to bum a carry off another group so long as you deal damage to the bosses or follow your role as required.
If they are open world, are they pvp zones or non pvp zones? Just wondering in case a group member can accidentally damage you
fair yew
You could get experience that way but not loot
digital yacht
they are all PvP zones, but they would still need to flag to attack u
@fair yew i mean if they do enuf dmg they can get loot 🙂
fair yew
That’s true but being one person versus a party it’s unlikely
dawn wyvern
Perhaps i am misunderstanding the content but if it is open world what is the point in calling it 8 man etc. If heaps of groups may be in the dungeon at the same time dealing damage to the same bosses
fair yew
Loot will be based on tagging plus % of dmg dealt
Because of the loot system
If you are in a party you share loot exp etc. and the party that gets the loot is the one that does more than 60% dmg or tagged it and does more than 40% dmg
alpine basin
So i haven't found a guild that fits my fancy. I like crafting and collecting. Any suggestions?
grim breach
Try asking in #aoc-guild-chat
alpine basin
i did
they sent me to recruiting and there aren't any messages posted other than guild openings. I didnt think i should post there.
grim breach
The only one that came to my mind is Verra Mercantile Company. You can try that one.
They sent you there to look for a guild suitable for you. CTRL+F crafting will do.
trail spear
You can just read a bunch of guild recruitment msgs see which you like best then join a few discords and see which works out best for you
Thats how I would do ti
alpine basin
@grim breach thanks. @trail spear will do
dawn wyvern
What happens if there are 3 parties attacking the boss and none of them reach 40% of total damage 🤔
hard turtle
@dawn wyvern Boss is not dead?
lunar hollow
How about there are 10 parties.
dawn wyvern
@hard turtle 3x 33.3% roughly equals 100% 😛
Oh, i had a grammatical error
My apologies
*40% of the total damage each
dawn wyvern
If i was an asshole, and i am, this may be a way to grief dungeon goers in 8 man at least assuming that there are at least 23 other assholes that plan on playing this game
hard turtle
@dawn wyvern I suppose if thats how we're looking at it. I would have to guess one of two results from my time in SBO.
A) While you have helped to kill the boss. You and your team don't get the rewards. (EXP, coin, loot.)
B) What TRH said.
Probably no one gets it.
@lunar hollow
The drop vanishes from existence.
In the end. Can't say for sure.
digital yacht
tHERE WILL always be someone getting the drop becuz the group that tags the mob gets a bonus %
@dawn wyvern @hard turtle
digital yacht
well if u tag it and dont do dmg u lose the mob
so u still have to do dmg
if my group of 5 tagged it and dealth 15% dmg a group that did say 40% they would lose the rights, or something like that we dont know exact numbers so its hard to say
but there will always be a group getting the drop
split crest
Any leak of october pack?
grim breach
None.
lean raptor
:((
split crest
😩
real sleet
@dawn wyvern there is some discussion going on about this without a true solution as of yet. We will have to wait for A1 to clarify this, I hope it will come down to a system of %-dependency for not only XP sharing (which is totally fine) but also for loot.
Best move this to #aoc-discussion for further comments.
low lantern
@steady ocean Allied nodes might just mean nodes that have alliances with each other, not vassal nodes
burnt mist
Does anyone know if the devs have addressed their opinion on content being dominated by guilds (to the point of excluding other players), and whether they think that's an issue and/or any plan to stop it from happening?
steady ocean
@low lantern Yes, I said that in my response.
@burnt mist You are able to join a large guild or a big alliance if you are in a smaller guild to combat other large sized guilds/alliances. There are already things in game to support players to handle that
If you are asking about solo players, the game isn't really being built around solo players, although they will be able to find a niche for sure.
burnt mist
My worry is that if a large guild gets large enough to properly dominate (without significant resistance), players might leave the game. One example of this happening was Archeage, a few major guilds on Kyrios (the server) kept everyone else out of regular content and the game started haemorrhaging players.
steady ocean
You mentioned the remedy yourself, build a significant resistance. Also, guilds are limited to a max of 300 players, alliance 1.2k, and then alliances could work together if need be but that is a lot of coordination.
low lantern
Large guilds will probably be able to dominate certain dungeons at times, hopefully there is enough content/dungeons that it won’t be much of an issue
burnt mist
(I shifted this to #aoc-discussion because it's not really a question anymore)
frank scroll
Will all summoner skills be based on summons and summoning, or we can get a frost bolt or a fireball also?
lean raptor
Currently the wiki say that you play trough your summons. It does not say anything about other abilites then summoning and doing stuff with the summons
steady ocean
We don't know at this time
west turtle
Will ashes support nvidia DLSS?
rigid rose
@west turtle to early to say at this point. By release is good possibility though as nvidia has and is still greatly refining the process
sacred bloom
Do all mounts act the same or do different ones have certain abilities
lean raptor
spring dagger
also aside from the flying mounts there will be the underrealm equivalent of burrowing mounts, and then a separate category for sea mounts
tame cosmos
I just recently purchased an account is there an installer im unaware of?
dull idol
The game is not even in beta yet, there is no installer
tame cosmos
then how did they play Alpha ?
dull idol
alpha one is scheduled for this fall and is currently only available to high tier backer from packs that aren't available to buy anymore
as of now the earlierst you can buy into is alpha two by buying a 375$ pack
rapid echo
Will there be exp boosters?
unreal zealot
i dont think so but you can get rested exp from taverns
steady ocean
^
rapid echo
Alright, i do hope not. Rested xp is a nice system but buying boosters etc can make the levelling process so moot
steady ocean
There will be no p2w aspects like that, or pay for convenience
ruby swift
Alright, i do hope not. Rested xp is a nice system but buying boosters etc can make the levelling process so moot
@rapid echo Exp potions and boosters have been ruled out in previous statements.
rapid echo
Okey good to know ty
dapper chasm
I just recently purchased an account is there an installer im unaware of?
@tame cosmos what do u mean by that? U bought an account from someone or what exactly?^^
tame cosmos
i meant on https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
elder salmon
@tame cosmos the game is currently preparing for its alpha-1 fall launch. it isn't released
fading valley
What you purchased was the access to a future testing phase. ETA unknown
sweet saffron
What does alpha-1 mean
lean raptor
It's just that it's the 1st alpha coming up
sweet saffron
What’s the different between alpha and beta tests
Sry kinda knew to gaming phrases and stuff
lean raptor
Alpha means that its still in early development and beta is pretty close to the finished product
sweet saffron
Oo okok
lean raptor
so beta in mmo's are often for stress testing the game servers and stuff like that
full badger
Typically Alpha testing involves slowly introducing new gameplay elements to the game and seeing if they meld together. Beta testing usually has all the features implemented and is focused on fine-tuning the balance and bug fixing
celest moat
Any chance of getting some details in September about upcoming "no nda" alpha 1?)
digital yacht
Alpha 1s NDA will drop when A1 starts (that’s the plan)
late wagon
I heard there's a fog of war when looking at the map? If i discover the entire map, will there still be fog of war or does it disappear as I discover more?
unreal zealot
^
lost lagoon
Has there been any news on alpha 2 planned date?
late wagon
Are there permanent mounts or do they all expire?
latent oyster
There are perm, uber rare drop fliers expire.
late wagon
Ok I see. Thanks for the answers
full ore
Howdy all. I was just thinking, I'm curious how an mmo focused so heavily on player-driven or player-created content handles lore. At least for those of you who have had a chance to play during super early tests, does it seem like the world of ashes has some meat on its bones? Do quests at least hint at the history of the races prior to coming back to this continent? Or from what you have seen, do you think there's enough to build on? Or is it just enough to get started to build our own world? I think it would be really interesting to have mentions of previous wars or old political structures. Maybe, at some point in the past, a couple of the races didnt get along together so well due to war or a slave trade - or something along those lines. All that said, I believe I remember them discussing how we will (or might) learn more about the "event" that occurred that made all of the races flee to begin with. So I know there's at least something in this world's history to cling to. Just curious if there's more.
near horizon
they have at least given themselves the space and have hinted at more lore being present. Currently we don't know much about it
latent oyster
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore
This is pretty much what we know atm.
near horizon
doesn't include all the lore stuff on items but that is most of it yeah
full ore
Thanks guys! Hopefully that lore page is just a starting point for them now. I do prefer a world I can really dive into.
real sleet
@full ore the Loreseekers (famous ESO-Podcast) just switched to covering AoC. That might be a good starting point, they announced their first podcast Sept. 18th. https://www.loreseekerspodcast.com/
full ore
Oh that’s right. I’ll have to check that out
crimson bay
and the alpha is full right?
formal zinc
there is a chance that intrepid can sell more packs with alpha 1 if they need more people to test
but nothing guaranteed
for now only alpha 2 anf betas
digital yacht
@full ore u won’t see much lore until launch or really close to launch Steven wants to keep it on the Downlow until launch
We will see bits and pieces here and there but won’t see the main gist of it until then
nova apex
Does each summoner subclass have unique summon spells?
onyx knoll
They'll each have a unique way to modify the summoner's spells. You don't get any new spells with your secondary archetype, but you could for example get an augment that makes your summon unable to attack but instead pulse healing every x seconds (I invented that, it's not actually a thing)
unreal zealot
you dont get new abilities with your second archetype just augments to your current abilites so say your a ranger and your Arrow ability added a short summon of a falcon attacking for extra damage or stun time/interrupt.
short flint
I know the Augment system isn't out yet or fully divulged onto us - but do we know if you can augment the same skill more than once?
e.g.
[My expected take on the augment] Rush, Augment it with teleport
[Possible option] Rush, Augment it with Teleport + Fire damage
[2nd possible option] Rush, Augment it with teleport, and have a 2nd Rush with an augment of Fire only
rare salmon
Are you able to change augments and respec?
short flint
Yes, wiki makes i sound like you can change your augments at nodes that are a village level or higher.
onyx knoll
Yes, it will require some investment and you won't be able to do it anywhere tho
royal surge
Asking here because it's gonna get lost in the discussion channel - is changing augments meant to be tedious?
onyx knoll
Hard to say at this time, we don't have a lot of info on the augments. It's possible respecing just the augments will be easier then full-switching secondary archetype
royal surge
I would hope so, given that the changes via augment are comparatively minor, and since there seems to be an abundance of augments, I would expect to be able to experiment with different ones easily
rare salmon
After you attack someone and become flagged as combatant or corrupt, does the time it takes to come off that status still tick while logged off? So I could wipe a high level ore people are mining at then log off for a few hours and be safe while I go to an alt account to mine that rock
queen dock
I thought removing corruption is through death
placid vessel
Yes, the only ways to remove corruption are to die, or by quests.
queen dock
And enough corruption you get flagged for bounty hunters in military nodes
vale locust
Corruption can be removed over time with XP gains
So you can farm mobs to lose corruption
digital yacht
So the answer is NO, u can’t lose corruption offline
vale locust
Correct
short flint
@placid vessel I believe that grinding is added to that and quests have been moved to reducing kill counts only [This part i'm not 100% on, i believeI heard it on a Jahlon YT vod, but it might also remove corruption values?].
ruby swift
@placid vessel I believe that grinding is added to that and quests have been moved to reducing kill counts only [This part i'm not 100% on, i believeI heard it on a Jahlon YT vod, but it might also remove corruption values?].
@short flint That is correct. The level of corruption is reduced or removed by grinding mobs or through death. The new mechanic of a "pk count" stays with you until removed through a questing system, most likely connected to the religion system that was mentioned early days as a way of reducing corruption.
plucky bluff
Hey guys, is there an NDA in place at the moment? If so, when it is likely to be lifted?
crystal beacon
I know that one handed spears are a thing, but does that imply we can dual wield spears? Or only spear and shield
chilly hedge
Hey guys, is there an NDA in place at the moment? If so, when it is likely to be lifted?
@plucky bluff When alpha 1 starts, it will not be under NDA
formal zinc
I know that one handed spears are a thing, but does that imply we can dual wield spears? Or only spear and shield
@crystal beacon only thing we know is that single handed spears are a thing, no more info on that
plucky bluff
@plucky bluff When alpha 1 starts, it will not be under NDA
@chilly hedge Thanks. 👍
fair yew
That’s not necessarily true. The NDA will be lifted when the devs release it. That could be the beginning of alpha 1 or in the middle.
desert ivy
Yeah the current plan is end of fall for removing the NDA, but that could obviously change
Intrepid aren't exactly known for not having delays
digital yacht
It’s not like the NDA lift is a delay.. it’s when they feel comfortable releasing the game to the public (basically) it could be at the start of A1 (which is the plan atm) or it could be after they see how the initial wave of 10000 ppl having access to A1 (which could be a few tests later)
desert ivy
Yeah but they have already stated that it'd be lifted by the end of fall, so if it isn't removed by the end of fall then that's technically a delay
frank scroll
Heya I wanna ask, I wanna be a jewel crafter, so do I need to also have some skills in animal taming to use these bois? (Quarriors are able to be domesticated...)
delicate agate
it encourages jewel crafters to interact with gatherers and processing professions
bleak fable
@simple ether pog
tawdry stump
Crafting has been set up to encourage player interaction. You can raise multiple crafting skills but only "master" one. So, unless something is at level of "mastery" then you could do mid tear stuff alone -- but plan on making friends, it's a MMO.
drifting pulsar
or have 3 alts cuz you have no friends
digital tangle
There has been a lot of talk about cosmetics so it made me wonder, would you be able to find the most generic plain piece of armor and have it still have good stats or will only fancy armor have good stats
spiral pine
i think they want to match power/stats with how armor looks
desert ivy
Nothing stopping you from transmogging shitty looking armour onto god-tier armour tho
spiral pine
that is true
desert ivy
So if you want shit looking armour with good stats you can just transmog
digital tangle
maybe I just want to look like a person rather than a wow character haha
just curious
desert ivy
That'd definitely be possible. Some of the earlier costume sets look like basic NPCs. Like this for example
digital tangle
oh costumes that's cool
dusk nova
That dude has no neck
hexed stratus
Dwarf
spiral pine
it looks like he has a metall neck guard
trail oyster
Is that Big Ed?
dusk nova
Wdym a metal neck guard with chest fur? XD
spiral pine
skin color doesnt match really
lusty hornet
Do we have any information in regards to the religion of the Niküa? The name of their God/Goddess, and what they're the God/Goddess of?
Do they possess any mythology or folklore that has parallel to real world Polynesian cultures?
grim surge
is it possible to reproduce dannyDevito ingame?
hexed stratus
Yes
lusty hornet
I flipped through the wiki and couldn't find any of what I was looking for. Damn.
karmic snow
do we know how complex the char creation will be ?
grim surge
well if I can recreate danny Devito
very complex
but they did mention that they were aiming for something par with BDO
or better
grim surge
please be better
hexed stratus
They have hybrid combat
karmic snow
i know
if the combat is shit the game would be just a second wow
overexaggerating maybe
royal surge
Will there be a dev live stream at the end of this month?
desert ivy
Should be
plucky pawn
We typically do our development update live streams towards the end of the month, yup, and we give you a heads up about a week in advance in the #news channel! 
hard imp
If i beat a noob to near death outside of town and stop short of killing him, do i get corrupted?
steady ocean
Only if you kill them @hard imp That being said, you won't see their exact health so you could kill them on accident and get corrupted.
hard imp
so if there was a mob nearby and a monster hit him once to finish him off I would not get corrupted?
awesome, thanks!
empty fjord
Will the livestream be available tomorrow? I will miss this one :(
mortal crescent
Hi, Its is going to be a server in Dallas? I Live in Mty Mexico 🙂
robust marsh
Steven announcing alpha 1...? here's hoping.
royal surge
Doubt
pine glen
Press X
digital yacht
Hi, Its is going to be a server in Dallas? I Live in Mty Mexico 🙂
@mortal crescent There havent been exact locations 100% confirmed but we will have a US East and US West prob a central as well
lunar vessel
Steven announcing alpha 1...? here's hoping.
@robust marsh
Good bloody luck
thin heart
So I played the buy the game and then forget about it so I dont keep waiting for it. Last post was like 2 years ago. Anyone tell me if there is a new or updated ETA on alpha?
lunar vessel
@thin heart I litterally just checked this discord now for the exact same thing.... After about the exact same amount of time
plucky pawn
We've been keeping that link above updated with the latest on that front!
spring shard
does anyone know then the betas will release?
formal zinc
nop, there is no ETA for alpha 2 or betas
plucky pawn
@spring shard check out the link in the command I shared just above your question 😄 that has the latest on test plans!
spring shard
oh thanks!
drifting pulsar
i believe fall 2020 is when alpha 1 tests will happen, idk about alpha 2 or betas
limber canyon
@plucky pawn That link was really helpful, thanks!
visual hedge
Will Alpha 1 come back up as a founder pack? Any word on that at least?
onyx knoll
They said maybe
If the servers handle the numbers they have now well, and they think they need more people then they might re-open the sales of alpha 1, but it's not confirmed
desert ivy
Late fall
uneven valley
is there a vod up from today's stream somewhere
spice grail
or youtube
errant quiver
Where can we find the AoC PAX discussion about online gaming that was today? The Twitch link does not have the video, only the countdown timer.
median nest
@errant quiver Should be here at 2hr 40min in https://www.twitch.tv/videos/742100151
errant quiver
@median nest Thanks!
copper obsidian
@median nest says the channel is offline, maybe they’re tweaking things.
sullen patrol
working for me currently...
copper obsidian
OK it’s back
dawn wyvern
Is there a cooldown between leaving a guild and joining another?
sullen patrol
For player guilds I doubt there will be but perhaps there will be for the NPC societies
royal surge
Pretty sure I've seen mention of a cool down on citizenship, at least
sullen patrol
Sure, I believe they also mentioned you have to have a house in a node to be a citizen
modest widget
I am part of a Dünzenkell RP guild, Lords of Dünheim, and to further our RP experience with the world of Verra, we were hoping to get our clans somewhat inline with the lore. Of course, while the lore and that will undoubtedly be released somewhere along the line. I am not however, sure about the state of the Dünir language.
While we have been given a few words here and there, they have been quite quiet on the language front. Looking at the scripts from Dünir ruins or buildings, give the same repeated lines (and poorly placed at that). Does that mean there will be no, or at the very least, little done on this front, or are these placeholders and a deeper version of a lexicon and scripts will be released?
cerulean surge
placid vessel
If I remember correctly, that just says 'Intrepid' over and over again.
Also, it's far too early to say what they plan to do language-wise. Everything we know is on the wiki.
@modest widget
Steven has been keeping everything lore-related very, very close to the vest, minus fluff text for the cosmetics.
modest widget
So, cross fingers and hope, but do not expect, at least for now
placid vessel
Couldn't say.
oak knot
Hey guys on the PAX thing today the recording they have up on twitch doesn't actually show anything but the countdown
is there anywhere i could watch it?
shy pendant
wooden cloud
The lines in that pic say 'Intrepid Studios' repeating with no punctuation, and mostly cut off in places. From left to right, it literally reads 'pidstudiosintrepidstu' then 'epidstudiosintrepidst'. However, if they're going to use futhark runes for the classic dwarf text, there should be plenty of material to use. @modest widget
modest widget
oho @wooden cloud I did not know that, I thought they had concocted some random runes, and used it to spell some sort of Düniric word(s). Which I guess is why I never had any luck!
Thanks for sharing, yeah, from that there is beyond plenty!
wooden cloud
Not random, and no stylistic alterations either. It reads very clean. Sometimes when people use the runes they add in a few that mean multiple letters, or have special characters. What they used there is just the 1 to 1 alphabet so far. Which isn't to say they might not add runes for 'ng' 'ee' 'st', but it's not in that pic at least.
wind osprey
In november this year everyone will be able to get a key and try out ashes of creation for himself, right?
wooden cloud
This fall is only going to be alpha 1's, far as I know. Alpha 2 should be some time next year, and beta key holders some time after that.
desert ivy
The a1 test in Fall is for people who backed Kickstarter at Braver of Worlds or higher or those who bought the Intrepid preorder pack at $500 2 years ago.
split crest
What they talking about in the stream? I was sleeping 😫
reef osprey
@wind osprey
only people that will get a key are those with the Alpha 1 Packages from either the KS, Summer Backing Campaign or Preorder Packs on the Website
dull idol
is there more to the stream mentioned in the news than just a 20minute countdown?
thorny warren
ruby swift
It was a PAX panel on the future of gaming. Nothing really Ashes related, but if you are interested in some of the guys philosophies on gaming development it is ok.
shrewd wasp
Q: will be there some reflection dmg/m.dmg skills for Tanks or other classes?
Q2: will be there something like soulshots/spiritshots such as in lineage 2?
Q3: resource for classes will be only mana? and will be there some easy ways to recharge mana like potions or food/drinks
sly monolith
what's the point in having a vid a stream with countdown timer? the lastest link on news?
crystal beacon
The video is on the PaX twitch it was hosted by AOC so didn’t record @sly monolith
dawn wyvern
@shrewd wasp
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guardian
The absorb bubble skill so far seems like the closest tank reflection skill that I can find
shrewd wasp
ye i see it ty for answer :) "Adds thorn damage while absorb is active."
crystal beacon
So, how do I go about creating a guild?
tulip hatch
There is no sign up within the intrepid platforms to create a guild if thats what youre asking.
You simply start doing it and recruiting folks!
crystal beacon
Got it! thank you ^_^
tulip hatch
Yep! Youre welcome
gentle horizon
With Summoner, will you go out and catch/find babies or eggs for pets to raise? Or will you just be able to just learn it and summon just by leveling up? If the first is true, will some babies/eggs be better than others? For instance, one dragon egg will hatch with high dmg and low hp while the next one dragon egg will hatch with low dmg and high hp. I was a huge Star Wars Galaxies player and imo their beast mastery system pre nge was the best.
spiral pine
summons are separate from taming/raising pets/mounts
grim surge
summons are different entities from combat pets
shrewd wasp
ye i think you just learn skills for summon summons, like was in l2, but you can have up max 3 summon at once, if m heard well
@gentle horizon
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Conjurer
here is some info : "You gain your summons from your summoner class as an active skill and then skills can be further developed with points"
sonic ravine
when is the release date ?
gentle horizon
Yea, that was what I was afraid of. Kinda like the Final Fantasy mmo, you just learn how to summon them. Was hoping it was the first way I described
formal zinc
unknown
polar nymph
2 ish years
formal zinc
there is no ETA. @sonic ravine
gentle horizon
@sonic ravine cool buy the $250.00 package that will give you Alpha 2 access. Alpha 2 is suppose to be consistent up to launch
Could buy*
Alpha 2 I would imagine is 1st quarter 2021
abstract agate
This isn't a question but more of a hopeful wishlist item. Many games today don't offer guild audits or exporting the guild roster. To maintain external tools such as discord/vent/ts, etc permissions and so on. Some games have no indication someone left the guild for example. or notes as to why they were booted. I hope that they put a lot of attention into relaying that information to GM's/Officers and have flexible guild ranks so that you can delegate effectively instead of all-or-nothing rank systems.
I haven't seen much on guild management topics, but it's such an important aspect of guild-based games.
shrewd wasp
alpha1 (this year fall ) >alpha 2 > closebeta 1 > closebeta 2 > (maybe open beta) > launch
unreal zealot
were not even in alpha 1 fully yet alpha 2 wont be early next year
shrewd wasp
ye alphas will be about 3 - 12 month each, bettas 1 week-1 month and open beta 1 week - 2 weeks... from my experience from other games :)
butg DAY-Z :D it destroys the whole thing :D
final glen
Since there is a class called warlock I suppose it will be able to summon demons, are there demons in the aoc lore, and if so, how will the different religions react to the fact that there is people that summon demons?
abstract agate
It's all dependant on the developer and their vision. If they are testing specific game mechanics, alphas tend to be more focused and shorter duration. Load-balance and networking related alphas generally extend out for months. Betas are often short and a way for the devs to ensure every piece works together as intended when they put features/mechanics together as well as balance issues with skills/classes. This generally doesn't take too long as stated. But there are companies that use alpha/betas as cash cows and over time draw people into them to get funding. Those tend to be more like pre-release "releases".
sly monolith
is the eu site up already?
shrewd wasp
@final glen warlock is Mage(main class)+summoner i think ther will not be playing through their summon but you will have spells and maybe you will be only able to summon effects and/or temporary energies
naive cloak
Anyone know when the stream last night will be up on youtube?
elder salmon
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/742100151?t=2h40m5s can just give it a watch here
crystal flax
It wasn't an Ashes stream, it was on the PAX channel, so they likely won't upload it
digital yacht
It’s on pax YouTube someone linked it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qzP_L6R8TA 6:17:41 time stamp
abstract agate
It was pretty good, I thought. Though it did get a bit shaky when john and steven had a difference of opinions. That was funny, but I side with Steven. Focusing on a specific title for a specific platform is sometimes important otherwise you sacrifice too much for a universal product that just doesn't translate well to other platforms. I'm an old-school gamer like John, and see where he was coming from, but disagree that all games should be created equal because of how players play today. There are different audiences. Steven gets that, John seemed to be coming from a profit standpoint.
Steven was coming from a quality standpoint and that I can get behind.
PC gaming for mmo's just has no equal. You can only do so much on a console and phone and the ui's have to be specific for the device. PC's are MUCH more flexible and should be respected as such. To make a game accessible to all platforms adds many more cycles to development that could be spent adding new content or features tailored to a pc.
But that's what happens when you get multiple designers talking about the "future of mmo's" each has their own theories. Neither is necessarily wrong. It just depends on the vision of a specific title.
crystal beacon
Get a laptop simple
fair yew
Let’s try to keep this channel for q and a
crystal beacon
any news on what scholars are actually going to be useful for? making the world map? making recipes?
silk swallow
Any news on the EU store yet?
south otter
Pre-order packs months of game time will be consumed in alphas and betas periods or they are for the realesed final game?
south otter
Okay thanks for the info
full badger
@crystal beacon If you're referring to the scientific node, from what we've been told they will be useful for identifying the locations of resources and points of interest around the map. We don't have any more information than that right now
crystal beacon
was refering to scholar's academy
but thats still good to know. thanks
viscid ibex
@crystal beacon I think that's what the library does, bot sure if that's when the node is a lower level or high, I'm pretty sure I saw it in one of their nodes videos
not*
stuck dock
Is there a date set for when the pre order pack with a name reservation will be removed or will it stay till launch just with changing access for early gameplay?
steady ocean
@stuck dock We only know the devs will give us plenty of heads up before they remove them.
stuck dock
Ok thanks
atomic imp
Hello,
I'm Toni from Finland and I used to play few MMOs in my past, I've just recently heard about your inspirational game and its development. I hope you will succeed, thank you for making such a huge risk and not rushing it. It truely feels like you have thought about tons of stuff when it comes to enjoyable MMO experience.
And here's my question for today, so Question Number 1
Ashes of Creation has 8 races to choose from, are there going to be more? I'm not saying it is not enough, but is it possible that the story elements allow to add more races to the world that are far away from the humanoid ones?
I've talked with a few of my friends about race choices they like to make in MMOs or in RPGs in general. Most of them answered: "The farther from the humanoid the better". I also belong to that same category. I usually like to choose the fluffy looking or even Argonian like characters. It's not like I wouldn't play the game without them, but it would give an interesting depth to the world when there are plenty races living together. It would be interesting to know why some races look the way they do and how come those kind of creatures even with fluffy look even exists in the world among the intelligent humanoid folk.
Are you going to bring more races out of inspiration of other games into the game's world? If you don't quite get the picture what I'm trying to draw here, see the list below.
Khajiit (Skyrim)
Argonian (Skyrim)
Orc (I don't think this needs an explanation)
Charr/Worgen (Guild Wars 2/WoW)
It's understandable not to have everything for everyone, but I'm curious, are there many people in the community who would rather choose a animal or even "alien" looking character over the humanoid one?
steady ocean
9 races in AoC, the Tulnar fit your want it seems @atomic imp They are mammalian/reptilian/beast hybrids basically.
atomic imp
Oh, there's the Ren'Kai, sorry I didn't know about that one.
steady ocean
two sub-races of each of the 4 (Elves/Dwarves/Humans/Orcs) and the Tulnar
atomic imp
Oh that's so cool. Thank you for your answer. I didn't dig deep enough it seems.
quaint pawn
I didn't know much about Tulnar, thanks for the imput!
south otter
Is there a date set for when the pre order pack with a name reservation will be removed or will it stay till launch just with changing access for early gameplay?
@stuck dock https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-09-01-heat-and-harmony here says from September 2 to October 7
grim breach
@south otter that only refers to the cosmetics being offered
The cosmetics are monthly exclusives. As for other items in the packs or the packs themselves, Intrepid will let us know in advance when they plan to remove them.
south otter
The cosmetics are monthly exclusives. As for other items in the packs or the packs themselves, Intrepid will let us know in advance when they plan to remove them.
@grim breach oh I didn't know that, thanks for telling me
true finch
Where can i find the video of yesterday’s stream on the future of mmos?
grim breach
Where can i find the video of yesterday’s stream on the future of mmos?
@true finch https://youtu.be/WiKPe1lDLBk
There's a timestamp in the description. Around the 6hr30mins mark.
true finch
@grim breach thanks a lot
tidal hazel
Fall 2020, and TBD
desert ivy
Alpha 1 is late fall. No dates for anything else. There won't be SA servers for alpha and beta, SA servers aren't even confirmed for launch
And no, there won't be price harmonization for the pre-order packs, only for launch sub prices
wild marsh
Is there any documentation stating there will only be 5 playable classes for alpha 1? Because I've only found documentation saying that there will be 8 playable classes.
The BR isn't active anymore I don't think.
steady ocean
@wild marsh There will be no class testing in alpha 1, just some of the primary archetypes
classes will come in alpha 2 testing
wild marsh
Archetypes, my bad. So, is there any documentation stating there will only be 5? Or will there actually be 8? Because about month ago people were saying it's only going to be 5.
desert ivy
Only 5 archetypes will be at the start of A1 including Tank, Cleric, and Mage as the confirmed ones
wild marsh
Yes @desert ivy But is there any documentation of this being set in stone?
desert ivy
You can pretty much rule out summoner and bard so that leaves Ranger, Rogue, and Fighter
wild marsh
Any links? Or is this just hearsay?
rugged kraken
Are the rather big islands we see on the world map the island nodes, or are there smaller undetectable islands yet to be shown?
steady ocean
We do not know where the nodes will be located. There could be nodes on the islands, but we will need to wait until launch to find out @rugged kraken
rugged kraken
Oof
celest depot
Steven said (in the interview with Asmongold I believe) that there will be smaller islands in the sea
rugged kraken
Developing a island node gknna be interesting as we gotta walk/swim there
steady ocean
There are aquatic mounts as well, and ships/naval caravans
rugged kraken
Yeah but not early game :p
rugged kraken
Can you inbox me that? I got to leave for work
celest depot
sure
rugged kraken
Thank you <3
supple harness
Question about preordering, if I get the $75 now, will I be able to buy this month’s pet and mount later?
steady ocean
Not after the cosmetics change, no
sacred crypt
Is there any word on when Xsolla will be back up? Still getting error 3032 (will not connect to paypal).
desert ivy
The $75 pack also doesn't give you mounts or pets, only the accessory
urban axle
What happened to the Twitch broadcast yesterday? 20 minutes of listening to music.. wanted to watch the VOD
steady ocean
It was streamed on the PAX livestream.
urban axle
so I got jebaited :c
supple harness
Yeah, I was unclear on the wording if I’d be able to upgrade and get this month’s higher tier rewards later if I only got the lower tier this month. Can’t go for the higher tier this month as much as I love the fire foxes
urban axle
does anyone have the link to VOD? xD
steady ocean
The official AoC channel hosted the pax livestream. I'll see if I can find the vod
plucky pawn
We hosted it on our Twitch channel as well, though some users mentioned they had to click "Chat" to see it! You can watch the VOD on their YouTube channel now here: https://youtu.be/3qzP_L6R8TA?t=22604
dapper chasm
@supple harness no, if u upgrade when the next cosmetics r out, u r getting the new items...
so assume fire this month : 75 - ull get the fireaccessory
next month water : u upgrade to the 150 - ull get the water petskin
supple harness
Thank you!
copper lake
Why not create a place for people who speak Spanish? the game will not be translated either? many Spanish speakers hope that
split crest
in a future
desert ivy
Because they only add channels for languages that are officially supported. Spanish is not currently a supported language
hexed stratus
It probably will though at some point
copper lake
Thx
steady ocean
Spanish is among the languages that will be added soon after launch @copper lakehttps://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions#Localization
copper lake
Ohh thx @steady ocean 😀
frank scroll
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions#Localization do they refer to languages, or server localizations? I suppose languages, but it’s not clearly said
desert ivy
Languages
loud zephyr
I seen a message about late fall alpha 1 but cant find it back is it a late fall 2020 alpha
hard imp
Will the skins available in the preorder shop today be available to purchase with embers later on or are those exclusives to the month they are available?
hard imp
Gotcha
fair yew
Please keep this channel for questions not stream announcements
steady ocean
@mellow glade You can post that in #community-media once every 24 hours
mellow glade
Oo soz
round tangle
Is there a vod for yesterday's panel? The video up on the ashes twitch is just the countdown to the event
plucky pawn
@round tangle I linked it just a bit further up in chat! https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/257283936756039680/755876599043457154
round tangle
thank youuuu
placid vessel
Nope, still saying fall.
digital yacht
Still fall
robust marsh
riteo...
digital yacht
We have 3 months of fall
robust marsh
Would of hoped to here something 'concrete' by now. But all g.
torpid tangle
I know I asked a little while ago but have we gotten any information on the naming policies in ashes yet for example: how many letters are required in a name to actually make it a name?
ruby swift
3
torpid tangle
that's the minimum?
ruby swift
torpid tangle
perfect ty
dawn wyvern
Do all guilds have to have unique names or can there be two guilds with the same name
digital yacht
in server do whatever but if u get in game and steal their guild name thats their fault and now u are the proud owner of that guild 🙂
abstract moth
Cannot wait until Alpha
dawn wyvern
That's the reason I was asking because all these people are creating guild names and recruiting but it may all be for nothing 😛
desert ivy
A lot of the big guilds will have name reservations for their guilds so it will mostly be fine for them
dawn wyvern
Ah right. I thought the name registration was only limited to player name
fierce cloak
Is AoC Apocalypse going to release in the future as a stand-alone game ?
dawn wyvern
So assuming it goes through, with the potential passive skills you can unlock via your guild, would the heavy armour passive skill stack with the heavy armour skill that a guardian has? Or will it just require the tank to have less points in that skill before it maxes out?
Just wondering if it may be beneficial to have a tanking guild specced into tanking abilities to have an incentive to build a guild like that just so the best tanks might come from a tanking guild that has passives stacked
austere karma
@Intrepid Would it be possible to offer gift cards for sale?
crimson storm
is this game really 2 years away from public play?
placid vessel
Yes, 2-3.
dawn wyvern
Probably 2 years minimum
crimson storm
oh wow nvm then
jaunty hemlock
any idea when alpha 1 starts and how long it may last? I have looked and haven't seen much around this yet, but maybe someone heard something?
dawn wyvern
America autumn
digital yacht
A1 starts In fall 2020 so sometime before the end of the year
It will last as long as they need it to
hexed stratus
will they sell any A1 keys for us newcomers?
reef dagger
So just watched the real talk video on combat (on paradox gaming network @simple ether ) my question involving combat at its current iteration is: we’ve seen tab work in the action targeting mode, how does action fare in the tab targeting mode? As far as basic attacks etc.. does the left click turn into pressing 1 for every hit, or do you have to go into action targeting for your action aspects?
@hexed stratus keep an eye out as there have been mentions that depending on testing they MIGHT consider re-opening A1
hexed stratus
oh
placid vessel
It will be action targeting for action attacks, if you choose that route for the skill.
hexed stratus
i guess ill hold onto some hope
tulip grove
Will A1 be open for people to stream / make content on? ( For people that have access obv)
lean marlin
to partner that with what Jahlon said, after the NDA is lifted.
digital yacht
Will A1 be open for people to stream / make content on? ( For people that have access obv)
@tulip grove Yes that is the plan to have NDA lifted on the Start of A1 but that doesnt mean its 100% confirmed 🙂
tulip grove
appreciate it guys
viral steppe
are we any closer to getting a new roadmap?
ruby swift
Should help you with your planning. Since A1 is not under NDA, do the math.
late wagon
Do you get to reserve your name right away if you buy the packs?
rotund frost
One big question....will there be cats and dogs pets in AoC?
dark jungle
rotund frost
I am happy now
steady ocean
@late wagon No, it depends on your status of package. Kickstarters > Summer Backers > Pre-Order packs, and at each tier the earlier buyers get priority
whole void
Is there any weather influence in the game?
whole void
but does it affect the character or just the environment?
whole void
awesome. thank u
short flint
There are even going to be world bosses that can possibly influence the weather in the environment too until killed - but that influence can also have a negative impact since it is boss related.
dawn wyvern
So could rain potentially actually nerf fire attacks? And if so would players potentially have the ability to have a skill to create rain to try and nerf a fire boss
short flint
Rain/Snow outside of the seasons have not been identified to impact gameplay. I believe the only thing right now that is to impact is just the seasons itself.
dawn wyvern
Oh I must have misinterpreted how it effects the character then
dark jungle
Elemental spells are affected by the seasons
drifting garnet
That sounds really cool though, to use the weather to your advantage
dark jungle
Elements may have more influence in certain seasons and environments. For example, frost abilities may be stronger in winter. This affects both PvE and PvP.[19]
dark jungle
what game?
sonic ravine
ashes of creation ?
sweet saffron
Do we have a rough estimate on when the first beta test will be?
dark jungle
no dates for anything but alpha 1
sweet saffron
When is alpha 1
dark jungle
fall
potent thunderBOT
sweet saffron
Ok tyty
sonic ravine
how can i register ?
dark jungle
register for what?
sonic ravine
for the alpha 1
sweet saffron
How long is the alpha 1 test phase gonna last
lean marlin
as long as it needs to be.
lunar hollow
Until they achieve their goal. The game is not on a rush.
sweet saffron
Oh, I’m new to pre game release stuff I’ve never actually followed a game while it’s in testing phase and stuff don’t really know how it works
languid cove
The fact that they are comfortable allowing early stuff to the public is usually a good sign.
short flint
@sweet saffron If you wanna discuss this in more detail, i'd recommend the #aoc-discussion - However intrepid studios has stated that they want to deliver a complete game at launch with 100% functionality on of their systems they want implemented. So the timelines will be very "loose" but they won't progress without making sure they are ready for the next "phase".
mortal crescent
Are we going to get (At some point) a video showing the different classes and their abilitys?
dawn wyvern
Id imagine almost certainly yes
sonic ravine
will there be middle east servers or its a global server ?
dawn wyvern
I don't think I've ever seen a game released where they didn't showcase classes/game play before release 😛
@sonic ravine
dawn wyvern
Well that post was beginning of 2019 so hopefully on release they might see a need for it
dawn wyvern
I am just glad they have Australian servers 😛
Anyway this feels close to discussions now so I reckon I'll stop haha
whole void
hope they have a server for Brazil
grim breach
If there's enough demands from other regions, they might consider adding them.
spare sorrel
Isnt there a alpha (?) Beta (?) test coming out in Q4 this year?
Anyone know when the approximate dates are?
potent thunderBOT
tawdry stump
I'm thinking about replacing my desktop with a cloud PC. Any info on if AoC will work with technology like Shadow Tech (https://shadow.tech/usen/)
frank scroll
Will AoC have a level system? Or something else like you level your fireball only when you use it
fair yew
You earn skill points s as you level and spend those skill points on your skills to obtain them and to level them up to tier 3 so far
The skills themselves do not have xp they only level by using skill points from character levels
frank scroll
Thanks
torn bear
And you also will not be able to max out every skill.
pale glade
Is there a date already for September development update?
steady ocean
Usually at the end of Sept, on the final Friday
pale glade
Thank you 🙂
white sequoia
given the new 3000 range and AMD range unsure if MMO's act the same as most Triple AAA games but for 4k game play with DLSS (if AOC supports it) will it use more than 10gb of VRAM ?
steady ocean
@white sequoia I doubt anyone knows. This is our current benchmark https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha_testing_system_requirements
white sequoia
cheers
hollow wadi
the 1 thing I dislike is that they bring new cosmetics into the shop every month, doesnt that make it almost impossible to find more awsome gear ingame? 😛 or can you transmog everything I assume, or is it a seperate section for RP gear and battle gear?
steady ocean
There will be a transmog system
autumn solstice
Is a way to get alpha access?
steady ocean
You can get Alpha 2 access from the Ashes of Creation website shop. Either the $250 or the $375 pack
autumn solstice
Spicy @steady ocean that’s half of my salary 😂
steady ocean
Beta access is much cheaper, starting at $75
autumn solstice
When will be beta available?
steady ocean
Probably 1+ years, but no official dates are given. Depends how quickly alpha 1 & 2 take, which will depend on how happy the devs are with the progress
autumn solstice
Thx @steady ocean
latent oyster
You can also buy into the beta starting at 75 and upgrade to the next tier of package if you do decide you wanna participate in the alpha.
Just so you know you're not stuck with whatever you get if/when you buy in.
keen sparrow
Where can I find the past broadcast of the Pax Panel
celest depot
harsh moon
will AOC take full advantage of CPUs like threadripper from AMD?
full badger
will AOC take full advantage of CPUs like threadripper from AMD?
@harsh moon Unlikely. I don't know of any game that can use even half the potential of a threadripper without getting bottlenecked.
harsh moon
so its probably just best to get a 6-8 core CPU then?
near horizon
pick the one with highest single core clock speed
full badger
Yes. The only people who can really make full use of threadrippers are video editing or animation professionals. Your average gamer will never use a threadripper to its full potential
near horizon
the amount of cores usually doesn't matter for games
they've been getting better at utilizing multiple cores but single core clock speed is still king
harsh moon
alright, thanks 🙂
amber crater
yo
frank scroll
You guys which was there for some years, when they were selling A-1 were the prices higher? I mean if they will close A-2 and we will have to pay the same for less playtime that'd make no sense.
desert ivy
A1 was $500
grim breach
A1 was $500. That was closed in 2018. A2 have always been 250 minimum. They'll most likely take it down before A2 starts.
solemn moss
Hi, i couldn't find an answer to this question yet, i hope it's not to repetitive.
Is there any plans to have an Spanish speaking comunity?
I would be very pleased trying to encourage this!
snow cypress
@solemn moss I have already seen a few guild recruitment posts for Spanish speakers in the guild recruitment chat. I am sure youll be able to find other Spanish players to group with
full badger
@solemn moss Right now we are only able to officially support English, German, French and Russian, and those are the languages the game will support on release. More languages may be added later but only if there is enough support/demand for them and we can get staff and moderators familiar with those languages to properly support them.
loud zephyr
I'm currently attempting to buy the 150$ pack and continue to get an error. Is the shop down or is the pack unavailable at the moment?
full badger
Can you show us a screenshot of the error you are getting please @loud zephyr
loud zephyr
at the moment i cannot
because i have attempted too many times to get the other error😂
solemn moss
Thank you all for that prompt respond. 
I hope the spanish speaking comunity will come to play your game.
If it's possible to push the comunity somehow, I will try to do it for sure.
full badger
@loud zephyr Ok. Have you tried doing it through a different web browser?
loud zephyr
i have not, ill try that.
At the moment I have maxed out the amount of attempts that I can try again and show you the actual error I was getting
full badger
No worries. Next time you're able to, save a screenshot of it. If using a different browser doesn't work you might need to make a ticket
loud zephyr
I have managed to purchase my pack thank you @full badger
full badger
Good to here 🙂
spice needle
Is the last twitch video just the waiting screen, that cuts out right before the convo starts?
full badger
@spice needle The pax panel was streamed from the pax twitch channel, and only hosted by Ashes of Creation, so the vod for it is only on the Pax twitch channel
spice needle
❤️ ty
full badger
@spice needle https://www.twitch.tv/videos/742100151 here. The panel starts at 2:39:58
winter heron
oh thank you @full badger ! I was trying to find it 😄
full badger
no worries
frank scroll
Will we be able to reset our skill points and reassing them to other abilities?
full badger
@frank scroll Yes but we don't have any details on how this will work yet
crimson mulch
where can i ask for a general tech stuff , because you people seem expert ( it is onedrive issue related to windows blocking files) ?
might be way off topic but i searched for so long and cant find an answer
lilac hare
This might be stupid question... But will there be day and night cycle? And will that affect monsters/events?
full badger
@lilac hare There will be day and night cycles, but we don't know if it will affect monsters or events
primal solstice
When we will get new gameplay footage?
full badger
@primal solstice They usually save the new footage for the dev livestreams at the end of the month
primal solstice
Okie thx
lilac hare
Oh OK thnx
dusk nova
i thought i had seen someone mention a forum thread where you could submit questions for the next dev stream, what part of the forum is that in? i'm not seeing it
dusk nova
oh i see the one for last month, thanks
deft jay
Check PAX youtube day 1
main merlin
Sorry i still cant find it
steady ocean
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/742100151?t=2h40m5s @main merlin
sweet saffron
Clarifying something, someone said there wouldn't be auto attacks in the game??
steady ocean
That's correct, you will have a basic attack instead that serves as a "weapon skill"
but it will not auto-attack, you will need to manually attack with your weapon
sweet saffron
Ah, so there are still normal basic attacks, from the way the person said i got the impression that you would only be using skills and some would have a low cd
thanks for clarifying
celest depot
How will quest progression work in regards of the advancement or (more likely) destruction of a node? For example; Will a quest for the religion in a node be abandoned when that node gets destroyed/downgrades since the religious building/NPC will be gone?
drifting pulsar
yeah nodes are very important
sweet saffron
With reference to the basic attacks, can I assign the action to a different button, or will it just be click
okok
tawdry stump
I'd say it's safe to assume there will be extensive key remapping available.
sweet saffron
Hot, i have a very very specific way i set my key bindings in mmos so i hope i can implement that
tawdry stump
I bought some pack, but don't recall what it was -- is there a place to see what I bought and which Alpha/Beta access my purchase gives?
Uhh, where do I see that?
My inventory I mean
Thanks, going to look for that.
Ah, that's got all the info, thank you! For anyone else, it's small text "View Inventory" at: https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/profile
marsh tulip
Do we have a lore reason to coming back to Verras?
onyx knoll
ADVENTURE!
small pecan
(Gifs dont load in this channel cuz previews are disabled)
onyx knoll
But more seriously, as far as I understand it so far, it's mostly like... Like if your hometown flooded, and you kept telling stories of it to your children/grandchildren etc, and then eventually someone realizes that it's no longer flooded so they go back to check it out because they heard so much about it and are curious 😛
full badger
Do we have a lore reason to coming back to Verras?
@marsh tulip The divine gateways that we used to leave Verra suddenly turned on again, so we're travelling back to find out what happened