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Need to upgrade your CPU as well
There will have to be some limit. Even if they hit 500v500 in castle siege, node sieges would be unplayable if it remained uncapped. The node being bigger will help some but I would be surprised if coming out of testing they left it fully unrestricted, but that is what the testing is for.
I got 1080
And tbh I'm just looking for an excuse to upgrade ๐
I remember seeing that node attacks will only ever happen at prime time for the server. Is my memory fuzzy or is this true
Have no plans till they do alpha/beta and it goes to shit 
Sweet. Lets hope that people always line up node attacks to only happen on weekends now too 
isnt node attacks only once a month
So I know there's only so much information available but how much restriction is there upon people attempting to influence things indirectly? Is there anything to stop me from Super PACing an Economic Node mayor with me and 100 other players in exchange for favors from said mayor? I'm curious because I don't know if the game would have any sort of anti-gold purchasing protections. If that's the case what would stop the game from flagging me trading a candidate X amount of gold for nothing and not getting flagged by some bot for selling currency?
I see. So at most I could probably look forward to a conversation about my nefarious plans. Okay, cool. Thanks Jahlon! (Love your channel btw)
Is there an upgrade system for pre order packs? Say I buy they 250$ but later want to go to 375$ for name reservation?
Okay.. is it limited within months to keep from getting extra cosmetics or is it like a trade in?
sorry im brain farting i don't understand the question
Like if I buy the 250 today but want to upgrade next month after the cosmetics change
Oh okay thanks๐๐ผ
How will, with such a long journey to level 50, will quests not be recycled. I have a general understanding that there will be a couple of fetch quests and kill quests etc, but how, logistically speaking, will the amazing dev team be able to come up with that many quests?
Also is it expected that there might be double exp events like other games have for power grinding or will they stay away from that to keep the whole slow levelling
i have no doubt that in the future there might be bonus exp events but realistically those kind of events are for catchup before a new expansion or major dlc. but we wont know till long after it launches
and to keep it inline with the corruption system they would probably have to make it so the extra % of exp doesn't work if your corrupted otherwise during the event people would kill a few people then farm double exp to get uncorrupted quicker
Also is it expected that there might be double exp events like other games have for power grinding or will they stay away from that to keep the whole slow levelling
@dawn wyvern They have only mentioned rested xp from taverns. Nothing about events. We know there won't be progression pots sold on the store.
so when a node resets from a siege, will the high level players have no incentive to be there unless they want new content? How will exp work for a metropolis being reset?
Is it too late to back AOC on kickstarter for alpha 1? Or am I just missing where the button is?
Can't back kickstarter anymore, that ended in 2017
No way to currently get access to Alpha 1 either
@gusty badger 250$ for alpha 2
ok so the only one is to get alpha 2, thanks!
So when is this game suppose to be released?
we don't have a date yet
When it's ready 
that has also not been confirmed
@exotic drum no official date, community consensus hovers are 2 years. we are in pre alpha 1 which is under NDA and the NDA drops for the alpha 1 that is in the late fall (fall ends in december for NA)
Q: Where can I go to find the Lore of the game world?
lore section of the wiki
we are purposely given as little lore as possible.. Steven holds that tight and rarely lets parts go. They have said they want the players to experiance the lore IN GAME not before release
ty cool
there is a decent amount of it on the wiki
so when a node resets from a siege, will the high level players have no incentive to be there unless they want new content? How will exp work for a metropolis being reset?
@worn wigeon There is no "reset" A node that loses its siege is blasted back to zero and any content dependent on that node goes away. Good news is that content is not single node dependent but relies on node groups in some cases. So there will be no "how will exp work for a metropolis being reset" because it is no longer there.
@ruby swift so high level players won't have an incentive to stick around unless they want to rebuild, because the area is now nothing
Odds are a metropolis has level 5 cities nearby that may have alternate homes/stashes for those people. And since the cities nearby will have a chance to become a metro with the removal of the controlling one. People will most likely concentrate their efforts there to make their desired node the next metro.
Anyone who stores all of their valuables in a single node is risking a lot. They have talked about this aspect of risk v reward in some of the livestreams.
Will a node that has dwarf architecture keep that architecture on level up if another race become the majority contribution or does it all change to the new race?
Changes completely
Aw ok
will we be able to form "Kingdoms" based on a parent Node and several adjacent notes under it?
yes "kingdoms" are castle regions
oooh thank you!
have any chance the game will be pay to play and no sub base?
And those kingdoms are just guilds right
okk thx
@stiff trout castles are controlled by a guild (and can be sieged) and I think give benefits to the guild that controls it from what I remember
Is there a class that lets your throw your weapon and have it return to ya? Dwarf fantasy here of throwing a two handed lightning hammer at my foes and having it return to my hands!
We don't have the full list of skills at this time so hard to say. So far I don't think I've seen anything like it, the closest would be the tank's spear hook thing maybe
Ok, thanks for the reply Xenellia
i can unofficially guarantee there's going to be several types of those, especially with spears and shields
and skill augments too
a shield with no throw is like a dagger with no backstab
Have they said if there will ever be any kind of "infection" similar to vampires or werewolves in the game 
this is gonna be a good game
@crystal beacon Nothing like that is planned at this time.
Is AoC going to have an in game VoIP system?
Party/Raid - Yes
Proximity - No
Tavern Voice Chat - Yes
Tuff
neat
Does anyone know if there will be like a shape-shifting class?
currently no word on druids/shapeshifting iirc? correct me if i missed something
You're right @uneven valley There's no roles that will have any shape shifting at the moment. The closest thing will be summoning things through summoner.
Will tanks taunts have any effect in pvp or will they be as useless in pvp as in eso?
It would be good imo if in pvp i was able to taunt an enemy player and the taunt causes their attacks to do less damage to my allies but normal damage to me so there is some reason for them to attack me giving the taunt pvp capabilities
That reminds me:
Why is the tank class called the tank class when tank is also a role? It seems like all it will do is cause unnecessary confusion between the two types of tank - unless the intention is to only have one tank, but even then, it's still a pretty awkward and confusing name? Guardian, Defender, Guard, Bulwark, just a few ideas for names
That has a WHOLE buttload of threads on the forums@uneven valley
it's so awkward aaaaaaa
Its cause you can never say tank too many times
does anyone have the picture of the costs of cosmetics for voyager plus
Will these prices be relative to the store prices on launch?
2500 embers for a costume?
We don't know yet, sorry
If I were to purchase the "Upgrade to Braver of Worlds Package" what all do I get with this purchase? In the details they seem to use "Kickstarter Exclusive" a lot so I'm just curious as to what I will or will not receive with this upgrade.
Braver of worlds is a kickstarter upgrade, Google the kickstarter for ashes and you will see what is included
@charred walrus I'm a little confused by your question. It seems pretty clear what the pack includes, but yeah, as @grizzled latch said you can view the original kickstarter page and get more of an idea
do you know anything regarding my question about taunting in pvp? ๐
@dawn wyvern We don't have any information on how taunting will work in either PvP or PvE. We know there will be threat mechanics for PvE (known as "hatred" on the wiki) but that's about it
righto cheers
apologies for the 50 questions i've already asked and a preemptive apology for the 5000 i'll still ask before release i only learnt about this game about 3 days ago ๐
haha no worries. Feel free to browse the wiki too https://ashesofcreation.wiki/
It's kept up to date for the most part
When can we avoid the 25% VAT as EU citizens? Now with my.com out of the game. Any ballpark dates as to when we can expect to get options to purchase cosmetics without the VAT?
They are working on it. We donโt have a date yet
i wish i'd have waited until there is no vat
i have this in my inventory, what exactly is it?
I see. It just sucks missing out on cosmetics that won't be available later down the line once it's worked out :/
@thorny warren That was from APOC iirc
Ah, thank you!
do you think if i bought a pack last month but want the cosmetics from this month instead they would transfer them for me ๐
these months are so much cooler imo
the only option is to buy this monthยดs cosmetics as well
i have my doubts
i think you gonna have to buy this ones
@modern slate If you have already bought a pack you can purchase the later month's cosmetics as individual items
yes i know that i was just hoping for a switch haha! thanks though ๐ญ
At least you'll be one of a few people riding a snail
my luck to get the snail when a badass fox mount comes out next month
seriously
they saw the hype and were like.. release the floodgates
give em the most hype
bring out the lava theme
i got the Nazgul theme, i like that more than the burning feet 
About the VAT...having the EU Store up wouldnt change the VAT since it depends on the location u 'ordering' at...f.e. : in netherlands i would have 21% VAT, right now in Germany i have 16% (due to covid usally 19%)
i thoughht i paid more than that
@modern slate here is a list of the store cosmetics sold so far, to make you feel even worse about your decision ๐ https://m.imgur.com/a/DcNjm6x
just the ~5$ fee on top of ur order...so not a big deal in my Opinion^^
Got Dark Allegiances
@dapper chasm yes, if it would be a big deal i wouldnt have done it in the first place
@true finch thanks iโm going to throw myself off a cliff now hopefully my snail will break my fall
okay next question how much money is too much to spend before the game even gets released LMAO we got two years left and my ass is gonna want most monthsโ cosmetics at this point
october coming up so you know itโs about to be good
If its just about the packs you can buy, you get pretty much the value you spent back with Ambers / Gametime + cosmetics. I guess the only person being able to answer that question is you, if you can effort it, go for it :D
Will there be unique items in the game? Like an item that grants invisibility for a short duration
Legendary items will drop from legendary world bosses
so the liklyhood of that is high
stealth specifically is solely rogue though and i think a small aspect of cleric main/rogue secondary
okay next question how much money is too much to spend before the game even gets released LMAO we got two years left and my ass is gonna want most monthsโ cosmetics at this point
@modern slate 1$
guess i spent $374 too much sorry to disappoint you
@modern slate not disappointed, just sad
guess i spent $374 too much sorry to disappoint you
@modern slate weird flex
i have this in my inventory, what exactly is it?
@thorny warren That was the Season Pass thing. Remember how there were two sets of quests and experience/rewards?
So... I bought the most expensive comsemtic pack in the store because I was super excited after doing a bunch of research on the game... Failed to check next steps after purchasing it. Is there like a predownload or something I do? Or do I just wait for the next batch of testing?
Yeah voyageer plus
Sadness. I'll just stare at my cool skins for now then ๐คฃ
When it's time then will I receive an email about the testing or will I need to check the online store?
Chances are the discord will also explode.
That's a fair assumption ๐
If you are lucky enough to receive a flying mount, will it ever die of old age, or will it be in game forever ?
If it was to die of old age, say you could farm it for epic mats, food,armour, say its teeth could make a necklace....
If you referring to the "eggs" that give flying mounts, the egg has a life (decay timer) and so does the mount itself.
The other 10 people that have it because of royalty or whatever only keep for as long as they remain in power.
When it dead, couldnt you use its skin, meat, teeth ..etc implemted into VERY RARE mats ?
Probably not, since it is not considered a mob, just like you can't kill your regular mount or pet and skin them.
@ruby swift Small aside, Intrepid should include a feature that lets you pet your pets and mounts....
Not bad idea, even if your not lucky enough to get a flying mount the trade off might be a mat which you need to make a rare Dragon cock burger which a Tank might need to help him defeat an Epic monster
@ruby swift Small aside, Intrepid should include a feature that lets you pet your pets and mounts....
@brisk isle They have many different emotes planned. Maybe that will be one of them.
Steven wake up i want to talk dragon cock burgers ๐
Not bad idea, even if your not lucky enough to get a flying mount the trade off might be a mat which you need to make a rare Dragon cock burger which a Tank might need to help him defeat an Epic monster
@bitter trench There will be various professions at the mastery level to fully utilize a world boss corpse. While dragon cock meat may be just you trying to edge, could be?
I like having very rare items in the game, and i was just thinking because of the flying mounts being so rare, you could implement more rare items through the Flying mounts
Hey guys, sorry if I will ask a stupid question, but now we are in Alpha 1 right?
no, it is comming soon though
Ok, thank you very much!
Is it known, how many Characters an player/account can have?
We don't have an exact number, we've been told it'll be a "comfortable amount"
ok, thanks! more than one is ok for me ๐
Yeah hope not like GW2 where you have to buy more character slots
Yeah hope not like GW2 where you have to buy more character slots
@sleek relic They have already stated that paying for extra character slots is considered p2w so will not happen.
Cash shop will be literally just cosmetics
Isn't a cosmetic only shop the aim of the game? Like fortnite, no P2w at all
Correct
afaik progress will be wiped for full release (post-beta), but will progress also be wiped in between alpha and beta?
There will be multiple wipes during the process and a final wipe before live launch.
I would assume all "test phases" get a wipe to rule out any possible bugs & stress testing.
thanks
Hello, only a guild can own a node right?
woah, so A2 won't be before next year...that's a bummer
Hello, only a guild can own a node right?
@late wagon Guilds do not own nodes.
Guilds own pvp castles. Different system
Is there any small, even if its is the tiniest, ETA for the beta server opening?
Oh ok my bad. The mayor owns the node?
No estimates. Intrepid used to give timelines. Dates were missed. People rabbled. Timelines stopped. They only give dates for what they know for sure they will hit.
ah, bummer, understandable tho!
Oh ok my bad. The mayor owns the node?
@late wagon Yep, and depending on which of the 4 elections systems that node is under, a guild could influence getting a member elected, but would not be a guarantee.
any comunity thought of that?
I see. Thanks.
Is the type of node pre-determined? If not, who decides?
the nodesystem is predetermind on all the servers
any comunity thought of that?
@crystal beacon It varies wildly. And no one besides them knows. It all depends on if future problems crop up or not during testing. Least a year.
think i read it would be the same on all servers? but then what node is leveled will differentiate the world so much ๐
stage 1 reveals the node type
The node types are the same on all servers in the same location.
At least a year? oh damn that makes me cry! ๐ just so bad wanna play this game ๐
and in lvl 1 node the NPC arriving will tyell you what node it is ๐
You will be able to watch streams probably by December latest.
A1 once released is not under NDA
Great thank you for the answers
@crystal beacon The thing about testing is that not even Intrepid knows how well it will go or what they will find. If no major issues are found they might progress relatively quickly, but if they discover a big problem (like they did during the APOC testing), it can set a project back a lot
my only issue is a amount of cosmetics items (every few weeks new ones if i'm correct?), besides that just hoping that the game will be released ๐
my only issue is a amount of cosmetics items (every few weeks new ones if i'm correct?), besides that just hoping that the game will be released ๐
@viscid tinsel The cosmetic packs change monthly. If you disagree with their pricing you can choose not to purchase them. The game will be a flat $15 a month on release.
Yeah that logical! and its a good way to see it and also it feels like Intrepid are doing well listening and trying to fix probs they/we find ๐
but it makes me wanna buye the Apรฅlha test pack too ๐
This A1 key taking forever to get.
@ruby swift ofc , it's just my personal perspective, that they should focus on finishing the game first ๐
There have been livestreams where they have explained how the cosmetics don't affect the timeline of release for the mmo. It is all work that would have had to have been done anyways. Killing two birds with one stone sort of thing. But you have been around since 2017, so you should know.
Shoot if they said they were going to tier invite into A1 I would have forked over an extra $1k ($500 between 2 accounts). You lost out big intripid
I'm really excited about the node system
Please keep this thread for questions and move discussions to the discussion threads. Thanks!
@brisk isle ofc - sorry for that ๐
Ok, i guess my question would be: why wasn't tier invitation into A1 announced during backer crowdfunding?
What do you mean? @dim mulch
@full badger He's referring to PI and Leader of Men getting into the Pre-Alpha before Braver of Worlds.
Oh
Because development is fluid and the planned methods of testing have changed over time. They found and needed to test the backend system problems that were found during the APOC testing. Would have been idiotic and really a bad look for them to open up servers without the pre-A1 ramp up just to see them crash and melt. If you are a KS backer you can still upgrade if you like.
Yea, woulf have dropped an extra 1k over 2 accounts had i know that would have been the case lmao
Will the servers be a mixture if people from around the world or will the be based on location?
That's not alpha 1 testing its additional pre-alpha testing. A1 will be everyone so they aren't doing tiered A1 invites.
We are already on A1, they have ppl in higher tier packages currently playing
Will the servers be a mixture if people from around the world or will the be based on location?
@crystal beacon If you are talking about testing, it is a mix. On release the game will have regional based servers, but you can choose to play where you like.
They didn't know they were going to do that, its just a nice bonus for those tiers as part of pre-alpha development. no way to know back when they did KS and summer backing
@dim mulch You can upgrade your package right now if you want to get in early that badly, assuming you participated in the Kickstarter or Summer Crowdfunding.
And no we're not in A1.
We're in Pre-Alpha.
A1 comes sometime this fall.
@ruby swift ty
Very first line on the page.
We are currently in the pre-Alpha One stages of Ashes of Creation. You can read the latest development updates in our most recent Creative Director's Letter here.
@ruby swift do you ignore updated information in all your resources?
Yeah what do you know Unknown? Not like you're Phoenix Initiative 
Latest Update (July 6th, 2020)
We will be expanding the testing group to include Leader of Men pack holders as we begin to ramp up the testing of Alpha One.
Literally says A1 testing
Then were in A1 testing?
If your testing A1, then your in A1
Yep, that has been thrown around quite a bit. Doesn't and won't change when access will be granted.
@dim mulch . Our goal is to have the Alpha One game client ready for full testing in Fall of 2020.
I wish I snagged an A1 bundle before they were gone ๐ฆ
Full testing = every1 who is supposed to be in A1
at least ya'll know it's fall
Alright guys, I think we've sidetracked enough. Take this conversation down to the discussion channels please
A2 doesn't even have an estimate
Well... unless A1 gets delayed 
wait so type of nodes (economic, militaristic, divine and scientific) is auto determined on stage 1? players has no choice in that?
So I can still upgrade my package still? And will get A1 key (or preA key depending on how you define "testing A1") right away?
They're predetermined, yes @rugged kraken
god, so if you want a specific node, no a specific biome you gonna have to search alot
It's going to be trial and error, yes.
They are determined at level 0, you just don't know which one it is until the npcs populate the camp, giving you a hint of the type.
is there a page that lists all benefits of all the different type nodes yet?
No, we don't know as the system hasn't been fully fleshed out yet.
isee, interesting
You can find what we do know here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes
noice, i been digging through the wiki the whole dsy haha
noice, i been digging through the wiki the whole dsy haha
@rugged kraken The wiki is nice when you are looking for specific information. I recommend Ashes101.com if you would like overview information on various systems. Jahlon does a good job making stuff in easy chunks for new people.
Real estate and stock market has been mentioned in media.
@ruby swift thanks alot! i'll be digging through both of em! โค๏ธ
He also made a lot of money in an MLM if I recall correctly.
He also made a lot of money in an MLM if I recall correctly.
@brisk isle mhmmmm
But don't quote me on that.
Nah, it is accurate. He started at 15 I believe with the MLM stuff. But that is not all he has done.
Doesn't this seem kind of sus? i mean this project is amazing but budget is extremely low for its proposed scale, i'm not saying don't pre order of course u can just sit back and watch, but how is this happening, super scale and tiny budget in comparison to other MMOs of much smaller scale?
I hope this succeeds tbh
Sounds like you have your opinion formed. Wait and see.
@vernal aurora nope, Steven has told people not to back the project if they aren't 100% comfortable. Also investing 30-40 million of your own money to get it made seems like a bad way to scam people. But ultimately they have said repeatedly just wait and watch development and join on launch if you have any worries.
IK and agree, not saying its a scam, but how is he going to budget this?
Steven committed 30-40 million of his own money to fully fund the game. KS and other backing mitigates some of that, but ultimately he has committed his money to get the game made.
And this turns into a discussion on game development. If you want to give suggestions or feedback on how Intrepid is doing this or that well or badly, please take it to the discussion channels. We try to keep this clear for questions about the game and mechanics that we do have information for.
Guys, I have a question. Since DPS meters are out of question, how do I know that I'm performing well and optimaly playing the class that I choose? Will there be any sort of performance meter to help me improve?
There will be combat logs
number go up fast if youre healer or number go down if youre dps
Hey guys, just want to ask are the cosmetic in the pre-order package character bind? or you can use it for all your characters at the same time?
combat logs are fine
number go up fast if youre healer or number go down if youre dps
@spiral pine but this is troll
Hey guys, just want to ask are the cosmetic in the pre-order package character bind? or you can use it for all your characters at the same time?
@cursive pebble You can use a cosmetic on a single character at a time. If you want to use it on another character, you take it off, put it back in the "account closet" and put it on another character.
@ruby swift OK, Thank you very much
Does anyone know if this game is going to have any kind of "rested XP" bonus for logging off in a city or an inn? I hate that trend.
yes, if you rent a room in a tavern
Darn.
Taverns offer rested experience (rested XP) for those who rent rooms or spend time as patrons of the tavern.[41]
Rested experience allows players to gain experience at a faster rate for a period of time.
Thank ya. I only really hate it in a game that has no fast travel. It disincentives me to play if I only have, say, an hour. By the time I get to where I gotta go I need to turn around and go back if I want that bonus.
this game has no fast travel (besides portals which will be rare)
I know which I like.
Yes, but you could always stop at a different tavern near your destination if available
Oh nice. That's a good to know.
I have to wonder if they'll extend rested XP benefits to people with homes who log out inside of them.
hey so it looks like your going to have to manually explore with your party for dungeons and their bosses right?
One of the least immersive things i see MMOs doing these days are dungeon cues and instances. Huge pet peeve of mine
They are shooting for an 80% open world vs 20% instanced content balance.
Gotcha, happy middle ground i suppose. I just remember how much i hated the lobby/dungeon cue system in ff14, and see a lot of other games fallowing that trend lately
@crimson galleon no dungeon/raid finder is planned for AoC ๐ yes.
They have mentioned having a board in the node towns where you can post messages for groups
Yay! I've been casually fallowing this game for 2 years now. Vary excited with how far they've come
thanks for your timely responses, the dungeon/raid system in ff14 was the #1 reason i stopped playing. Glad intrepid is choosing immersion over convenience
Hey all! Question. I had put in a support ticket a couple days ago regarding my account for some reason having 2 Referral codes as well as 2 different links. What is the time frame of a support ticket being responded to? Thank you in advance
They have been a little long recently @vagrant loom ... would check your spam folder on email as well
Yes nothing in spam
I've heard of people waiting a month for a response
question about the cosmetics, are costumes able to be used by any race, or are they race locked?
Any
On that topic - from what I was told they're both legitimate links, just use whichever one has more people on it.
Yikes, I want to be able to send my code to some friends and they were interested in the current packs hope i dont have to wait that long
Interesting ok
Thanks!
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Thank you Tars! Yes I already have a support ticket in, just wasnt sure on turn around time for response.
Hey all. New to the game/discord. I purchased an access pack but cannot seem to decipher when/how I might be able to play the game? Can someone straighten me out? Am I between test phases? Will I get a redeem key and download link in the future...? All I have seen is Alpha ended on date... but there is not, that I have found, any go-forward info. Please help.
What pack? @crude edge
depends of the pack. but there is no ETA for alpha 2 or betas atm
so... I am "between"
Taking a look now
If you bought the $150 one then you're Beta 1 which is very far away
We're not even in Alpha 1 yet
Alright you're in Beta 1/2
Alpha 1 is slated in fall
Alpha 2 is unknown
So you likely won't be invited for another year, as Alpha 1 hasn't even started. (Guestimate)
@crude edge
so... I will not be able to take advantage of the purchase for... ~1 year?
Probably (definitely) more tbh
Probably, you will be able to have this month's exclusive cosmetics though.
...I am sure you can understand how disappointing this is.
ask questions before u buy
People have been waiting 3+ years already, so it's not like you're the only one who has to wait lul
I a year I will be busy (or dead, I am 60 years old) Who takes responsibility to tell me when/if I can play the game?
The game is still in development, we get frequent updates (in the form of streams, announcements, and forums) and creative letters telling us the status of everything
Is there a date that has been set for Alpha 1 yet?
Fall
They will send out email notification for testing phases as well, but ultimately you are responsible for at least keeping an eye on the progress so you can know about delays and such if they happen. #news will give you the major updates and their website.
yeah. I get it. I was an original supporter of Path of Exile.
I think it should have been made a bit more clear that investment would be put to use in a year or more. I could have used the money differently and still met a cut off point had that been indicated. Well... see you in a year... or not.
Understandable, again I think you can refund if you'd like.
you can reach out to CS and get a refund if you would like, and rebuy a pack later. The information about the current state of the game is on their website, so its not like that information isn't readily available before you make a purchase.
Full Alpha 1 will start in Fall
No NDA.
All people who have access to Alpha 1 will be invited in groups.
Depending on tier.
@slender blade BoW wont need an NDA as they are apart of Alpha 1 whjen the NDA drops
What do you not understand?
It'll go down tier by tier as the server achieves better stability.
As of now I don't think it is actual alpha 1 moreso pre-alpha 1
yupyup, hopefully we're able to clarify it in the support link above, which combines the info from a few different places 
i dont think there wont be more NDAs in the future once alpha 1 releases
Possibly some early A2 nda, though unlikely IMO.
is purchasing a pre-order package with cosmetics the only way to join the early access of aoc? if so, will it be more accessible in the future?
They may give keys to beta out in raffles and competitions
is purchasing a pre-order package with cosmetics the only way to join the early access of aoc? if so, will it be more accessible in the future?
@sage vector People who purchased higher KS and Summer Backer packages will have beta keys to give out.
alr, thank you
How will a sword and shield combo be implemented into the game?
With animations ?
probably similar to dual wielding i would imagine you can select the weapon skills differently.
I was thinking along the lines of timing your shield block.
Needs more information before we can answer.. Still in pre alpha with lots subject to change
If I 3090 with a zen3 cpu will I be voted mayor? Its technically not pay to win.
From what painfully little we know, each weapon type has a different action attack damage cone
Will there be an AoC Creators Program like there is for New World, Pantheon, etc?
There already is but it's currently closed
How much harder would it be to include an authentic first-person point of view like in Skyrim?
Nice
@hidden acorn Much harder, so they're not going to do it
Would people who write editorials qualify?
Bummer
@astral hinge anyone that makes content that Steven likes can get it, I believe
Ok. Just making sure! Hoping to get this bi weekly article published somewhere then
@plucky pawn Did AoC mention if the world was a "globe" or has invisible walls on at edge. (Globe meaning i can travel far east sea and end up on far west side).
It was only a matter of time before the #FlatVerras showed up
from https://www.ashes101.com/pve : ```
1: The group with the tag needs to do 40% of the total damage to the boss to get the loot
2: The group without the tag can steal the loot if they do more than 60% of the damage to the boss
What does tag mean in this context?
attacking the enemy first
technically a group is 8
yes 8 , 16a and 40 are the group sizes that content is deisigned for
and you can merge multiple groups to form raids
so a group hunting legendary world bosses can at max be 40 players, gotcha
as far as we know so far, that's correct
if your guild is big enough you could have two 40 man raids with one helping out for the main group
Is there a global chat ? If not, how far does a standard /say message reach, do we already know that?
What makes "static housing" Static?
does that mean it won't change owners in a seige
@plucky pawn First, Thank you as always for all the updates. Question, can we please get an update soon on the "!playtest" info? Last update was updated 2 months ago. I suppose even if there is no new info (total bummer) but at least we get this changed "Latest Update (July 6th, 2020)" Thank you
There hasn't been any new info, that's why it hasn't been updated
My backer level included "Closed Alpha phase 1" but it's hard to tell what this is. Should I be asking for a key?
I actually do read development stuff once a month or so, I just figured I'd be emailed something when it was time.
I just don't know what the category of this testing is
@limber canyon alpha access will start this fall.
you will get an e-mail once you get access
Say someone attacks me and I'm not flagged for pvp, if I defend myself successfuly do I gain corruption?
since they would be attacking you, they would be flagged as combatant. You only gain corruption if you kill non-combatants
@lusty kite thats just being rude
So you want Toast to respond and say the exact same thing as me?
he gave you the awnser
@lusty kite if no one replied would you go cry that no one took notice of your question?
Hey guys, before we get told to by mods. Keep it civil and/or move this to a different room for discussion.
lol @unreal zealot take this to discussion if you nothing of value to add
Lets take the comments to another channel folks, theyre not necessary here and derail questions
As for the playtest command it is kept up to date and that is the latest update until further notice
#questions:
"This channel is for the community to help one another answer questions and resolve issues outside of Customer Service."
Where do we spawn when we die?
will there be pve servers?
no its all pvx
@limber canyon alpha access will start this fall.
you will get an e-mail once you get access
@reef osprey Thanks, that's what I assumed!
The thing is, the "title" they use for my phase doesn't exactly match the title of any of the development timeline phases.
And of course since there's NDA there's no way to just read forum posts to figure out if anyone from KS is playing.
But I'm patient by nature, and I know what it takes to put out an MMORPG, their timeline is fine, despite what some people say (read: who don't know what they're talking about).
I suppose I will respectfully disagree until I see a timeline that says "Closed Alpha Phase 1".
That's what I mean by the phrase "exactly match."
Is there a possibility to get a key for Alpha simply by registering?
No PVE/RP servers.
Okey dokey
@late wagon Unfortunatly not
@late wagon No, but we had A0 giveaways, may have some beta ones closer on release
@late wagon if the staff decide to do an alpha key giveaway yes, but otherwise, no
Ok thanks everyone
@simple ether I noticed the Artisan Section on Ashes 101, have all of those professions been confirmed?
I believe so.
Awesome thanks
Right and if you go to the Wiki they have sourcing for all the statements
Follow up on crafting skills, has anyone heard anything on the following potential professions not listed on Ashes 101? Skinning, Tanning, Leather Working, Bowcrafting, Masonry, Enchanting, Cartography.
Tanning is a skill
And I certainly hope that their goal is to keep it streamlined, there's already 3 stages and like 13 different fields to master (or something).
I don't think that making it 20 would be advisable.
I stand corrected, it's already close to 20!
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes
the ones on the current list were just examples mentioned by Steven.
Its not the full list @sand dust
@limber canyon
not the full list that will be in the game*
I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to know what has been talked about by the developers, read the wiki first, that's literally what is on there.
Personally, I sort of take it as a given for most things, that nothing is final. Not races or classes or certain things that aren't practical to add (or subtract), but other features I assume are fluid in development.
(And I'm not saying don't go to 101, that's a great site! Those are the two main things I look at if I don't want to mess with the forums or Reddit.)
anyone know if bards will get instruments they can equip to enhance their aoe buffs or do you guys think they are going to be mostly restricted to melee weapons?
you can use any wep as any class.
I've been in the dark for several months, playing catch up on a lot of data and information on the game.
My loaded question: For Bravers, "fall" has been discussed for Alpha 1, has there been any more specific timeframes? Something like "October" or "November" for instance?
is Archaeology or some similar type of excavation system for rare rewards and coin planned?

and for Bravers of the World accounts we're still waiting? I'm fine with it, like I said, I've been in the dark.
Yes
Do I still have a chance to get my previous skin
if you mean skins that were available in previous pre-order packs then no
oh no
Summoners can summon up to three Summons.
is that like 3 summons at once or summon 3 different ones?
At once I believe.
Can the summons summon summons 
There is the potential for a summon to summon summons in the form of a swarm attack
only sub, no box cost and no paying for xpacs
Will there be options to buy a bulk amount of months at once for a discount. Instead of paying 15 every month? Like 150 for a year instead of 180 or something like that
They haven't announced anything like that yet, but maybe
@dawn wyvern Likely you'll have the option for a better dealed yearly sub (this is speculation but most mmorpgs do this)
I've been worried about this for awhile now.
But will the game possess "servers" or "realms" in the traditional sense and will there be RP realms?
Yes there will be servers and realms. No there wont' be an official RP server, but the community will obviously band together to create an unofficial RP server
That's rough.
That'll be my suggestion I put in the little suggestion box then lmao. Please introduce RP servers for us.
head to the forums and let the devs know
I'm pretty sure there's already an Ashes of Creation RP Discord, you could try finding the link for that
it might not be toooo too bad. ESO communtiy is really RPer friendly even for non-rpers
@lusty hornet They don't want to separate realms based on rp,pve,pvp, ect.
While it may change, I pin it as unlikely.
ESO community is also really segmented and fractured fundamentally, and RP is incredibly sparse beyond Guilds which can be insular at times.
I don't think AoC will necessarily have that problem though, due to the existence of servers..
Thank you guys I'm gonna dig around and try to find the AoC RP Discord and slip into that.
The problem with the ESO community (IMO) is due to the multiple guilds, anyhow lets bring this to #general-discussion if you wish to continue the discussion, good luck on the rp server.
Another question, is there a place where there exists the known lore for the setting? Or is all of the lore currently very ambiguous/unknown?
I was reviewing the lore surrounding some of the races, and it was incredibly vague and confusing in some cases!
That's intentional. Steven is keeping most lore close to the vest.
Donโt let that fool you though there will be lots of lore in game. Think of it as a dnd campaign where you learn things as you go
Ah! A bit unfortunate that such is the case, I'd love for more to go on for Guild building and world building preemptively.. I'm a bit lore nerd. Thank you both so much for your answers! ๐
think of all the lore content on youtube tho as it all gets found out it will be so fresh and interesting hopefully
the role play servers are considered the nasty servers, it is filled with erping
was a really bad experience in ff14
if u want a community like that just make a guild for it
dont ask for an entire server
and you can't rp if your server is dead
sure, u can roleplay as the only survivor

Hi guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
appoligies
any plans for Linux support?
Not for launch. Linux support may be added later once the game has released @pseudo onyx
Hi, for the past few day's ive been trying to log on to the forums... I can log into the intrepid studios ok. wondering is there any on going maintenance ?
I just checked and i have no problems with that. Try another browser maybe?
will the mayor pay his taxes?
Sorry ignore me.... I didnt choose a display name
haha all good buddy
will the mayor pay his taxes?
@pallid horizon all citizens will pay taxes. A Mayor is a citizen.
If you have 2 characters on the same server, will they both have full access to your freehold/housing if you have it?
As far as we know yes, tho I think there was something about alts not being able to pull out materials... I'm trying to find it again
Ah wait I found it, I was thinking of warehouses which are different
Amazing, thank you~
Anyone else seen this happen before when they go to the shop? I've tried different browsers and computers.
How does the summon sheet for siege equipment work?
Just started happening for this months items.
Works fine for me
reading a bit about freeholds, but i didn't really see anything that mentions how close you can place them, could you and some friends/guild members technically form a mini village by plopping your freeholds next to each other?
We don't have an exact number yet for what the distance between them will need to be, we know you can't place them too close to each other, but that's rather vague still lol
hmmm, would be neat to kind of cluster and each specialize in something but i can also see that as being probalmatic
@dusk nova when I asked Steven about that around a month ago he stated they can be close yes but they are still deciding between having it be a full street length apart or just a small sidewalk length.
I should have saved the screenshot. But he does like the idea of having those "freehold villages"

I only setup my account over the last week, and while doing an "inventory" of items, I don't see the Radiant Stallion listed. I am a Braver of Worlds holder.
Yeah, everything else checks out, only the Radiant Stallion is missing
im sorta keeping up with ashes ( also really drunk atm ) but what is the current status that ashes is in? alpha testing for backers or not upto that stage yet?
It's part of the Pioneer tier, which shows it should be included. For instance, the Hawk pet and "Kiss of Summer" cloak are there.
Summer Braver of Worlds backer, not kickstarter, sorry.
glossed over that
No
@simple ether ty ๐ was checking as a friend mentioned it
Showing the Pridestalker for Summer Braver.
will do, thanks!
I sorted it alphabetically, and drew up an Excel to make sure I wasn't missing anything since it's a large list.
are racials going to impact dps/tanking/healing much or are they going to be minor benefits in terms of combat, or more catered specifically to non-combat aspects (like the Vek having a naval racial)
Do we know how meaningful? I don't want to feel like I'm gimped as a healer if i don't choose the BiS racials. ESO is pretty bad about that
That is unknown atm
it was said racials will be able to augment certain abilities
so like a very lite version of a secondary class or something like that
was looking at artisan skills last night and all I can find for processing is animal husbandry and smelting. Will they be including tanning/weaving for leather and clothe crafting? seems odd that armor smiths are the only ones that are going to be required to refine there raw materials, or am i misunderstanding the purpose for smelting?
Not all the processing artisan classes have been officially added yet, there will be more than just animal husbandry and smelting
ah, got it. thanks ๐
I know the Alphas take place on 'Alpha Island', but will the Betas be there too, or will they get to be in the actual world?
No, after alpha 1 the world will open up more
Has any relese dates been added for the beta and so on yet? i want to buy into it but i am unsure of the timeline
This might be already answered so Iโm sorry if it is, but for the Archtypes of Bard and Cleric will they be able to clear mobs decently solo?
i imagine it will depend on the content your attempting to solo, but from what i understand both will have combat abilities
as in skills that deal damage, it wont all be support based.
Oh good, thatโs what I was hoping. I couldnโt recall if I hear any mentions about damaging abilities. Thank you
I assumed there would be, but was curious lol
@wary pasture i believe cleric's skill list is already on the AoC wiki , look it up ^^
everything on the wikis is from older tests and shouldnt used as main source to determine skills
So beta is in like summer 2021?
no dates have been confirmed, but I believe that is what the community currently speculates
very unlikely
I believe Ashes of Creation turns 4 years old since the project was announced on Dec 10, 2016. Would be cool if Alpha 1 started on the 4-year Anniversary
No no December is not fall =p thatโs winter
december 21st is when fall ends?
Maybe where you are from >_> winter starts in October here
people: fall
me, an intellectual: autumn
What sort of system are the servers going to be run on? The systems in place seem to be very intense and i wonder how well they'll be able to handle 500 people in the same place at the same time
Will there be weapon and armor enchanting? will it work as in Lineage 2?
Enchanting is a profession, how it'll work isn't fully known.
Will there be a server for South American players?
If you get enough players, but currently there aren't any definitive plans for a South American server, at least not at launch
Will the servers be different? I hate being on an NA server and seeing chinese players i can't communicate to.
not to mention the ping difference
OOF
SA community was big on lineage 2, perhaps later then - after launch. Thanks
Not having region lock is gonna suck big time
you can always use a VPN to overcome the region lock
I played Ark when they first ported it over to console. Within maybe 2 months of playing on my healthy 70 population cap server, Chinese players (mostly hackers) completely ruined my experience. (In no way this is intended to sound racist) But I suppose my question comes out of concern. Is there any sort of method to either reset, or completely halt any sort of toxic domination of multiple nodes? Like if a guild of 600 Chinese players with no intention of playing the game it was meant to be played completely trashed a NA server what would my options as a player be? (Assuming the average player has no way of communicating with said toxic guild)
post that in discussions instead
yeah, bots are a menace, no matter their origin
is this PC only ?
yes
okay good
also when does the fire pre order theme pack date end? i cant see on website
i think my internet too bad
october 7th
oh nice still got time
@simple ether When is your next stream?
is it know how much more a caravan can carry compared to your own inventory?
100x more atm
mule can carry 10x and caravan is said to be 100x more
Hey, maybe this is obvious and I'm just blind, but what's the *current * beta/alpha phase?
pre-alpha
awesome thanks ๐
Will Ashes have race-specific languages, or just a single universal language
Only a universal one, no race-specific ones like WoW
Do we know if there is going to be an option for a Mayor to resign and/or appoint an acting mayor in case Real Life intervenes and they cannot play for their time as mayor?
is that confirmed that there's going to be just one, or have they not talked about it
RP with race-specific language is ๐ ๐ฏ ๐ฏ ๐ซ ๐ฆ ๐ซ ๐ฆ
One would think there would be a option to resign, but as elections are monthly there might not be a need for one.
Elections are monthly so i dont know if it'll be a thing, as it'd mess with the flow (having elections on the same day every month)
I am thinking that if a mayor has to stop playing on day 10, and so 20 days of no mayor could be bad for a node? Also, It wouldn't be a reset of mayor election time. I would propose something that #2 in the previous mayor voting gets elected. IF they refuse to accept, #3 etc.. etc...
Confirmed that they're not planning on doing racial languages
dont want game to be delayed even longer cuz of some languages plz
but now i think it, they are allowing a bad mayor to possibly reign for 30 days, so no mayor might be better than a bad mayor
most ppl arent roleplayers just saying
when I played UO, we had RP guilds that made their own language. Orcs had their own, undead had their own, The celts had their own. They didnt spend much time making it as a group and all of their newcomers abided by it. granted, I somehow ended up being on a RP UO server by accident...
If you want to RP like that, I'd look at the AOC guild channels and see if something like what you are looking for will exist or see if people want to start one
youve months to get it all situated
is it known if utility skills are like primary archetype skills not obtainable through secondary archetypes?
another question is if those utility skills would also be augmented by secondary archetypes or only the combat related ones
Your secondary archetype will grant you 0 new skills
As the current development plan is today, your secondary archetype will allow you to augment all of your primary archetype skills by providing you 4 schools of augmentation. You can also gain augments from social societies (and i believe from nodes you are citizen of?)
Just know - that the community has not seen anything yet regarding augments - only conceptual talk by the Intrepid staff.
will there be further rewards for the referral program? f e, once you have 5 ppl that bought/preordered the game with your link you get a special cosmetic?
Not that we know of, no
Does steven even lift
He lifts my spirits every day when I realize this thing is right around the curvature of the earth.
is there a cap for how many mounts u can own?
Not that we know of at the moment
or will it be based on feeding/housing and how much space you have for them
I don't think you need to feed them, but at the moment they take up space in your inventory so you'd be restricted by that. It's still a work in progress tho
hmm okay thanks for your answer ๐
do mounts also decay or have durability loss? I understand all player owned buildings and caravans have detoriation
ships*
The rank 3 ones do decay and are temporary, but not the others
They can die and will go on cooldown when they do, but you can speed up the recovery with some potions or just wait it out
When VR becomes more MMO friendly will aoc support it?
The game isn't being built with VR in mind so at this time it's hard to say. Maybe eventually, but probably not before launch
Is it possible to buy a package with head start in it still? If not, are there going to be servers that haven't had people playing on them for 2 days at launch..?
Yes, only a small set of servers will be listed as "Headstart" servers. They are going to easily identify these servers for everyone so they understand what kind of server they are going into. I do not think they will allow you to purchase anymore "headstart" packages.
Okay thank you. Didn't want to play if there weren't going to be fresh servers on launch date!
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Makes sense to me, I would like to play on the head start servers, wish I could buy into them, but w/e. I'll play on the fresh launch servers I guess.
@crystal beacon no worries man,
Either Intrepid opens it up once more or Headstart servers will be the first to have population issues. (since many peple share your exact stance)
So you either can play there in one scenario or you don't want to play there in the other. Win-Win for you :)
Feel free to join us in the aoc-discussion channel. So we can keep this to questions ๐
do we know anything about char naming restrictions yet (multiple-word names, apostrophes, hyphens, etc)
Multiple word names is confirmed I believe, you can have a first name and last name.
I know in-game VOIP is setup for parties and such, would VOIP be there for public places such as taverns in nodes (and possibly free holds)?
@stone pulsar Is this what you're looking for?
thank you
Np
When VR becomes more MMO friendly will aoc support it?
@marsh gale They have said they have no plans currently to support VR. The first person animations/interface for VR are a separate cost and is not in the current budget.
Ok thank you.
Do we know if you have to be a citizen of the node that houses a certain social organization to be a member of that organization.. or can we be a member of node A and be in the thieves guild that is in node B?
You can be a citizen of one node and access the social organizations based in another. There are certain services that will be for citizens only, but social organizations from last information I remember are not one of those locked.
Has there been any information on when we will get more info on Bard class?
@ocean siren https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bard
This should be a good summary of everything we know right now
No set dates on more info atm
@long gust Thanks!. Much appreciated!
No problem!
is zone chat a thing
Any clues to the alpha 1 date?
is zone chat a thing
@uneven valley https://ashesofcreation.wiki/In_game_chat
Any clues to the alpha 1 date?
@fierce cloak here
Will there be in game voice chat?
have prediction for server in SA?
Will there be in game voice chat?
@stiff trout Yes
Ok cool, thank you lol
@past ferry No servers currently.
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Fall is now 10 days away ^_^
So combat in AoC~ is it cooldown based or resource based? What game's would be most similar to it? My background is primarily ESO and I really enjoy a resource based system
Fall is now 10 days away ^_^
@tawdry stump Since the A1 is not under NDA, take this as a hint as to which end of the season you will see it.
Will AoC Apocalypse ever come back?
Unfortunate
I'm okay with that
Would be nice for something to do and as backend testing for intrepid. But I can see why, to focus on mmo
much respect to all here. (side note) I tried to read through comments and information before I opened my noob mouth, but I didn't find any information about the "fighter" using a secondary hybrid class to make a well known build in most games ppl love called the *Monk class. any insight to why no monk love? just a thought while looking through the list of classes.
just was a soft spot in my heart from EQ1 days.
If you're asking if there will be an unarmed class, then no.
No reason why, they just didn't make one
Just like there's no shapeshifter
monk's don't always use there hands. its just a weapon build around it solves that issue. I've never focused the class in Everquest, but I just felt that it would have emersion for the fighter class to hybrid into to is all.
Will there be any items that allow the hiding of ones name for subterfuge, secret gorilla tactics, general villainy, etc... ? Asking for a friend.
i don't think we have any info on that kind of stuff i would imagine if there was a stealth potion it would hide your name until someone targets you or damages you.
if thats the stuff your into you best bet is to use the rouge archetype tho we dont know what the combos will do yet for classes
I mean more on a social level. For instance having a guild member assassinate someone without someone knowing who the guild was or the ability to have meetings with other guilds or groups anonymously for backdoor deals.
especially since the game's social aspect is so huge
probably not then unless you use alts without the guild name attached.
or hire mercenary guilds
i highly doubt there will be any type of way to hide your name in game.
A very big question i have, is will they allow classes who Taunt to take away peoples tab targeted unto them selves to hold PVP aggro for a moment and force pvp to change targets or deal with the target change constantly as it would make tanks be very viable in pvp aspects of the game. a game that has a good example of this is EQ2 for the mechanic's
the game is currently in its alpha stage correct ?
@quick thorn The game is in pre-alpha right now. Alpha 1 testing is due to start this year
@burnt locust We don't know yet how taunting in the game will work exactly, let alone if it will work in PvP
@jovial dove Right now there is no way to completely hide your identity from other people
oh ok , i thought a pre alpha stage would mean there hasnt been any alpha test so far , i guess alpha 0 was pre alpha 0
It was indeed Mara
Hello
@bleak fable Hi and welcome. If you have any questions about the game feel free to ask here, or join in the conversations in the #general-discussion and #aoc-discussion channels
Thank
I was watching one of the playtests and noticed something that slightly irks me about nearly every single MMO. The most important information, the player's health and mana, is stuffed way up in the top left out of the way. It used to make sense 10+ years ago on smaller screens. Not so much now, IMO. There any plans to make it movable?
@midnight terrace The UI is being designed to be fully customisable and modular
What you've seen so far is just a placeholder
That's awesome. Everything that irritates me about MMOs you all seem to have thought of.
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What are the rules concerning streaming or recording game play during alpha and beta testing?
As soon as the NDA is lifted you can stream and record gameplay as much as you want
I see thank you
Canโt wait for people who tested this game to stream and give their opinions. I know itโs early days but looking ok
Is there going to be a global chat? Or is it going to be restricted to local/area?
@polar hollow I think it's Royalty and higher only alpha 1 they plan on introducing down to braver of worlds this fall if I am not mistaken. (Hopefully sooner because I want to play)
@ruby hound no global chat
What does referrals do? I cannot find any information about it on the site
Do I get something if people register with my ref url?
15% of all cash they spend including sub fee
oh, thank you
Fall is getting mighty close
Hi everyone. Have you at least considered translating the game's interface into Italian?
@mystic sorrel Translations are done based on demands or interests. See here for list of languages they plan to support at launch: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016194714-What-languages-will-Ashes-of-Creation-be-in-
Hello. I have read the post, but it doesn't say what other languages are provided. Many buy the game also based on the language ... including me ... ๐ฎ๐น
So basically, if there's enough demands and interests from Italians, they will provide localisation for Italian players. If not, you will have to play in English.
or in german ๐
can you roughly quantify what these requests should be?
I cannot quantify or give you any details about that as I am not the developer. However, I think if you can have as many of your Italian friends or citizens rally up and tag @ashesofcreation on Twitter, that could work. Maybe a petition too?
ok thx
Several years ago, The character models featured in the trailer footage seemed larger and had more weight. More action camera oriented. Apoc is still featuring this style and weight, so I am curious if this is still the intention for the mmo later on, or if we are going with a different approach for the MMO?
(It's hard to judge the mmo, because it's alpha, but the question is still on my mind)
Perhaps its the camera angles that is throwing me off.
Yeah, for APOC camera was locked. Steven likes to have his scrolled way out, and he is usually the one that records the footage, so it may be that.
nods might be. I just was curious if the animations from APOC is what we are going to be getting with the mmo. I needa zoom in next stream xD
To those of us late to the party is there anyway to upgrade ur alpha 2 access to alpha 1?
Is that something Steven said?
Yes. The original intent was to keep the number of alpha 1 testers below 10,000. If they decide they want more than that they will open up alpha 1 sales again. But that's a maybe.
Noice
Is the wiki info on Bards up to date? It seems very sparse
Thats because we dont have much info on certain archetypes until they get revealed/implemented somewhen in Alpha 1
@dapper chasm classes don't get implemented in Alpha 1, they get implemented in Alpha 2
@reef osprey...rly...im sorry for my mistype...we were just talking about bard and not about bard + Y...so the statement itself is right.
Have we gotten any info on how fishing works? I'm one of those weird people who judges an MMO on its fishing.
Fishing is not AFK fishing. There have been one or two clips showing how Fishing current works in the game.
Thanks.
Alpha 1 testing, happening yet? They were saying it would happen soon but its been 2~ months...
Don't expect it till November/December honestly
Do we have any info character customization? Can we expect something like bdo customization (or even gw2)?
The devs said they want a character customization on the level of BDO's
:O ok awesome thank you
I know its probably to early but are there plans to make dungeons have a hardmode when players get more gear? For example the enemies you face have a few extra abilities, they do more damage and you also face extra enemies?
See point #1. Basically, the game will determine your performance in each stage and increase (or adjust) the difficulty accordingly.
AIs will behave differently, they will use different skills, and you may face more enemies as well.
There isn't really a difficulty setting in this game, I think. Probably the content's group sizing will be the difficulty indicator. (Only for instanced dungeons, maybe?)
The main problem is that 80% of the dungeons aren't instanced, so would be hard to have a mode that increases the difficulty like in WoW since it would affect anyone not just your group
yeah true, i do like the idea that the difficulty increases based on your performance
i have another question about that if you dont mind
Ask away. Anyone who knows the answer will try to answer you to the best of their ability. ๐
I used to play very competitively in various games and what im worried about is for example: You play very well and get deep into the dungeon but you know there's a pack of enemies that are hard to deal with. you could in theory lower the difficulty by playing badly in order to deal with tougher packs? Or would the difficulty stay the same and be unable to be lowered no matter how badly you play?
That's a good question. I don't think we have an answer for that yet. You can ask that question for the Q&A in the upcoming dev livestream.
i will do! not 100% sure how long the dungeons will be or if that would be a viable strategy but players typically will optimise the fun out of the game if they can
@harsh moon optimizing can be fun in itself
but i get what you are saying
i agree with what your saying as well i just dont want that to be the thing to do
you get better rewards the harder the boss is scaled, so yes you could try to lower the difficulty by playing baddly but then you would be shooting yourself in the foot
@harsh moon since the dungeon is meant to adjust up based on superior performance or downing a boss quickly, there would likely be a minimum difficulty.
what i mean is this: if we split the dungeon into 4 parts.
Part 1: Easy enemies
Part 2: enemies are harder because you performed well in part 1 but the enemies in part 3 are hard to deal with so you perform badly in this part to make part 3 easier to deal with
Part 3: clear normally because you performed badly in part 2 making this part easy
Part 4: clear normally and get the difficulty to the maximum to get the best loot
tldr: you could in theory control the difficulty slider by performing bad or good to choose what part of the dungeon is hard or easy
And that reference that was posted also points to some bosses being gatekeepers so you must meet minimum performance to pass that check, be it DPS, endurance, etc
Donโt really like that idea , lowering difficulty by playing bad, but rather base difficulty in skill and gear score , or would there be some way to scale dungeons based on tiers ? Like going from Normal mode > hard mode > nightmare mode > etc ??
Donโt really like that idea , lowering difficulty by playing bad, but rather base difficulty in skill and gear score , or would there be some way to scale dungeons based on tiers ? Like going from Normal mode > hard mode > nightmare mode > etc ??
@quick thorn agree on that
Do we have any examples of what the ambient music might sound like in Ashes?
Okay cool, thank you!
have they given any indication that they might cut out castle siege?
This was the last we heard about Apoc (the "additional testing phases" most likely being Castle Sieges and Horde Mode)
But I thought everybody loved the BR?
No most people shat on it because they thought Intrepid yionked the money and abandoned the mmo completely
I have a question to people that bought the pre order, what package did you buy, and do you regret it? If yes, why so?
@frank scroll I picked up an alpha2 access package with all the beautiful skins. I do not regret it. I am happy to support a company and game I have faith in. Yes, one must be patient with this game, as we are only in pre alpha at present. With that said, Alpha 1 is to commence some time this fall and once this occurs we will get some wonderful game footage as the NDA will be down. Then, hopefully if all goes well with Alpha 1, Alpha 2 will not be too long afterward.
@frank scroll Well I currently have the cheapest one since I believe the game has potential. Once I see more gameplay and the mechanics I might upgrade it or not depending on how much development has been made. Personally I hope this game will make me want to spend money on it if that makes sense ๐
@frank scroll I bought braver of worlds and wish I had the money to upgrade it. So while I am frustrated at all the delays, I did go in realizing their stated timeline was unrealistic, but so far I don't regret it based on what they show off.
Thanks yall for the answer
My husband and I have contemplated stretching the budget to try to upgrade, but we don't have a guild that we're close with/involved in, so there's very little worth it to us in the leader of men, and we definitely do not have the funds to upgrade to PI which is the one I want.
You pretty much cheered me up to buy myself a package too
I will end up supporting the game through the shop. I just have to finish a few adult responsibilities first before my free spending budget allows me to ๐
One thing also
Dont you think its too expensive?
Like its really a bunch of money
Affordable
But still really big
I do not. MMOs are expensive to make these days, and the cost of subs has not risen at all in the past 20 years. Plus, backing at the higher tiers is hopefully a statement to MMO devs across the board that yes there is a market for this kind of game.
The better ashes does, the higher the chance that future MMOs will become interesting again.
So, the money is high price, i agree there. However, the thing I like about the packages, (say the $375 one) is that you are also getting 9 months of play time included. You are pre-buying game time. So really, you are actually investing into your own game play there.
I think of the 250$ one as the best to buy
It depends, if you think you'll stick witht he game the $500 is the best one. Like LOTRO for example, I wish I'd been able to get the lifetime sub to that one, I have spent well over 500 on subbing to it over the years.
Or was, I guess.. the lifetime was kackstarter only
My last thought on your question - if you have more thoughts on the answers given it might best to move to #aoc-discussion . Once you purchase a pack, all of those cosemtic types that are unlocked, you can just purchase that same cosmetic type next month if you like it. E.g. your $250 purchase gives you a fire fox skin for a mount. Next month they release a white clouded horse skin. you can pay just an extra $20 to buy JUST that mount skin if that is the only thing interested. but since you didn't purchase the $375 that didn't include the costume skin, you'd have to upgrade to voyager plus to get that skin. (There is a picture of this, i'll try to find it for you.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/256164085366915072/754617935372484698/Individual_purchase.png
will there be a physical box cd we can buy ?
No box cost for the game but i wouldnt be surprised if eventually they have a collector's edition or something
If there is a Collectors edition there will most likely be just a download code but have a steel book case
The last CD I used - was a burned Windows CD about 3-4 years ago?
and before that, who knows
When you preorder through the store and it gives you prepaid months of gametime..is this game time for when full release or are you charged per month while its in resting phases, like a2 or beta?
No, release game time only
I purchased the $75 package I would upgrade as funds become available.
75? I thought the minimum was 250? such an inane price tag. Hope they release something reasonable soons
Nice! Just remember, upgrading is not the full price. You just have to pay the difference between your current package and the future package you want to upgrade to!
250 minimum for a2 acccess
There are 4 different packages @rapid echo Depends what you are wanting to purchase.
@rapid echo u prob wonโt see anything cheaper in the shop for early testing so u will have to wait til launch if u canโt afford those price tags where u will pay 15/month
@rapid echo its pretty much just paying ahead.
250 includes 90$ worth of game time and 100$ worth of credits to buy cosmetics
is there an eta when a2 testing begins?
No, the release date on that will depend on A) How long A1 goes, B) What all items need fixed after A1 for testing in A2 and C) are all new items they want to test ready for A2.
Roughly that is the equation.
wait you have to spend ยฃ250 to enter a2? well looks like im waiting for beta then XD
It is an inane price tag meant to tag advantage of fomo.
Yes, u arenโt paying 250 jsut for beta tho u get most of the money in game time and cash shop currency
The timed cosmetics is the same.
fomo?
You donโt have to buy them why complain
na, ill wait for beta and hope my future valuable feedback wont be missed :p
Also, this is turning into a discussion - Let's try to keep this for questions, and if anything more comes from it - let's try to move it to another channel.
#general-discussion continuation
Fear of missing out. Sure.
Will custom guild logos be a thing ?
Yes, maybe, they havenโt decided 100% yet becuz they will have to heavily moderate it
Oh god, AoCs stance on multi boxers?
any plans to make a 6 month subscription fee? It's nice to know that for at least 5 months any free cash you have laying around you can spend XD
thatd be good for the company as well knowing they got 6 months of money coming in
Here's a question I hope has been answered. AoC doesn't have global cooldowns does it?
uuugggghhhh
Can you craft your own siegeweapons?
if you didnt have a global cool down in games youd have carpal tunnel in a matter of hours
Can you craft your own siegeweapons?
@junior rapids Yes, siege crafting is part of the artisan system.
if you didnt have a global cool down in games youd have carpal tunnel in a matter of hours
@harsh moon not a fan of GCD. There's nothing more frustrating than waiting on a cooldown across all abilities. Like, I'm trying to stack damage, here. Plus, it just lowers the skill cap. I dunno, I'll save my groaning once we actually see live gameplay.
@thin shore it certainly does have GCD in the Alpha somewhere between 0.5 and 1 sec
you can see it in the live streams
Yeah, it seemed smooth to me
ff14's 2.5s felt like an eternity
Ooops, wrong channel.
Do we have access to the character creator yet? If so how do I get it?
They have not released the CC yet.
will it be possible to max out all resistances with end-game armor or will one have to pick and choose which resistance to prioritize?
That isn't something we know yet.
Very little info has been given on resistances so far.
i hope its not possible to max out all resistances
at once
maybe the tanks could, but that's because its their job
but no one else
but even then tanks should, i think, have to choose between resisting physical damage or magical damage, but im sure these are things that are being discussed and i await to see what comes of it
that's exactly what i wanted to hear. cheers!!!
i guess this means there will be a ton of items as well
time to break out the pick axe and get to the foothills and get that ore
In recent discussions, there was talk of advancing a skill to be tab target vs free aim.
Is this going to make the skill do less dmg because of the fact it will auto hit? And if so, how do you balance that vs those who are amazing at free aiming.
^^
All to be tested
If i buy a pre-order pack, do I then have to purchase the skins separately?
That is weird because i went back to the shop after purchasing the $150 pack and the "Embered Kit" and the "Perdition's Path" are there for $15 and $5
U can only buy what a included in your pack
those are just separate packs i think
so the pre-order thing just unlocked those for purchase?
If you buy the 150 pack you get 2 items and you can buy those 2 items each following month
U get the 2 that are in the pack this month but following months need to be paid for seperately if u want them
ya, but you would be rebuying the alpha and beta stuff
No
You donโt have to buy the whole pack just the skins separately
Ohh, I understand, it just shows them as purchasable because there will be other items there next month.
Yes @empty harbor
Ok, thank you for clearing that up
@empty harbor just to clarify a little further for u, u bought the 150 pack so u got the Fire Pet/Accessory. From what i understand of the website its not the best so, u still have the option of buying the pet/accessory for this month (but u already own it)..
But next month say u want to buy the pet after u purchase it, it should then say in the website "You have already purchased this item"
Thank you, that makes a lot more sense. Towards the end of our conversation that is what I was leaning towards believing but now it should be more clear cut to anyone else who was wondering.
Do we know if freehold owners who decide to make them inns or pubs or w/e will be able to buy/hire NPCs or the like to run them for us while we go out and actually play the game? Kind of like having them build passive income. Or will we be required to actually be there/have a player be the one running it
Do we know how exactly will the archetype system work if you chose your sub class as a tank? Would you gain abilities like shield or taunts or would they combe like sub classing mage would just be adding in elements or a variation to pre existing abilities from the main class
We do not know what augments "Tank" Subclass will give yet. But it will most likely include augments that help increase your survivability or survability of others.
I think they gave an example for summoner, where you get a pet that can tank for you albeit not as good as a main archetype
^^^
They won't have targeted heals tho right? Exclusive to healer arche
I am really interested to see how summoner plays out! Since there was a mention that a summoner with a pet out might be 85% as strong individually, but the pet adds up the extra 15%. that sounds really interesting to manage.
If you do Summoner/Cleric or possibly Summoner/Bard you could probably off-heal with targeted heals or AOE heals.
Few months back I think they kept repeating targetted heals will be exclusive to cleric primary
Think they'll lean more towards aoe
It might even be based off the type of summon you do. Maybe a summoner/cleric might have an option for single target healing and then another summon with a aoe heal or HOT heal.
Im really thinking im gonna main fighter and second tank but im still waiting for more information to be released. Is their YouTube the best way to stay up to date?
For cleric sub, but in the wiki says that summoner/cleric gets undead minions so who knows
Classes are usually the last thing that gets released tho so I'll be patient xD
Thank you! @short flint
I believe they said they were going to try to get the class info out at some point in alpha so people can research their builds a bit.
Hey everyone, have a question that I don't know if it has been asked and answered already. (probably has lol) will their be events that are like cross server? Like i noticed some guilds will be on multiple servers will their ever be events where they can link up?
So what sort of content would having tank/tank be the most beneficial for? Just wondering if its worth it to go guardian and take that dps loss compared to if i took fighter as sub class for example.
Right now I'm only assuming that guardians will be needed for absolute end game content
Like non-instanced events? No.
Events like maybe instanced arenas being cross-server? Yes
does this game have an official release date?
@dawn wyvern That is hard to answer without know what augments are going to be available. Same thing with all "pure" classes like Fighter/fighter, rogue/rogue, ranger/ranger. There is a chance that the augments for rogue provide might be more utility based than damage based. Or possible a 50/50 mix. So its tough to estimate right now.
@onyx cedar To give you an idea, the game currently has at least 4 pre-release tests planned (Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2). Alpha 1 is scheduled to come out this year.
Oh and please tell me there will be aoe taunts ๐
I am not sure. A lot of us are excited for the Alpha 1 launch this year because we get to see some archetypes version 1.0 in action.
We most likely wonโt see secondary archetypes and their augmentations until a2 tho
Yeah, i remember hearing that A1 won't include secondary archetypes
The early days of combat being developed into higher forms for history to look back on.
Hi there ! I've understood that player participating in alpha 1-2 and beta will only be able too see and interact with other players of the same region (EU-NA-etc.)
Did I understand well and, if so, do you have an idea of the population ratios for the testing phases ?
Alpha 1 is currently aiming for 10,000 players total, and about 2,000 players per server (so roughly 5 servers). Not sure how they'll be handling regions yet?
the reason for the smaller servers is because they will be locked to a smaller section of the world.
Also Alpha already has all their players which is why the voyager plus pack doesnโt give you access anymore
Yes that I followed :p Understandable enough
It's mainly to know if all testers of one server will be more or less on the same timezone (I don't mind playing across the pacific but normal people are usually sleeping, therefore not playing)
@manic vine true for Alpha 1 but alpha 2 is still available in Voyager plus pack
Yes I know I have it lol
And I agree with you
It would be no fun playing when everyone else is asleep
Iโm sure they will have an NA east, west, central, and then one EU server and one Asia server
Confirmed servers are: NA/EU/OCE
Is that for alpha and launch?
Launch only I believe.
They just bought an EU office this year, yeah?
Can't wait to see the "technical" positions that will open one day in EU (maybe ? ๐)
I see Community Managers, support staff, and maybe a few dev positions, though this is all speculation from me
The alpha 1 date already anounced?
Does anyone know what all types of harvesting/gathering/mining there will be?
CM/Prod are already available for EU
But I suppose creating a new team from scratch on a new continent is not an easy task in the current state of the world hehe
Just get the Eu center in sweden, its whatever here
When is the last day of buying the package for alpha testing?
Aren't sweden taxes insane?
Partnership with IKEA for home furnitures ? :p
@vapid creek Alpha 1 can't be bought, the last day for Alpha 2 will be stated when it comes to that
Oh ok
@primal solstice Nothing yet besides end of this year - a good place to look would be #news - confident Alpha 1 testing info would be posted there.
Please keep this channel clear for questions ๐
Will it be possible to specify pvp flaggin like for example "Attack everyone except guild members"?
Ok thanks
Sieges will be an attacker vs defender ordeal.
I was expecting infiltrating the other team and doing lots of backstabbing.
But I guess sabotage should be possible still.
@lunar hollow I don't believe sabotaging an ongoing siege is intended, politics, and trickery (spying) are
Are we still aiming for Fall for Alpha 1 invites?
Yes
@lunar hollow I don't believe sabotaging an ongoing siege is intended, politics, and trickery (spying) are
@woven vale That happens all the time in guilds, happening during sieges is only natural.
And that is considered sabotage.
Location of people, location of certain buildings, damage of each building, where the weakest areas are, etc. Location of key people, weapons they are using, etc.
is it possible we will get info about alpha 1 soon? I'm hurting for something to play and it can't come soon enough ๐
ohh, nice ๐ i hope so
so 10,000 people for alpha 1, how many people are they aiming for with alpha 2?
We do not have that number @dawn wyvern .
When is Alpha 2?
hopefully after i graduate from uni ๐
the A1 is planned for late fall this year... depending on how it goes will dictate the time period that they start A2.
we do not have a date for A1 or A2 yet ๐
Sweet, thank you! I just purchased the $375 bundle so Iโm quite excited.
@unborn turret gradts!! welcome!
why does the ashes of creation support page have a different login than the regular intrepid studios login where the store is?
Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
my mistake was i thought it was the same website/login as the regular page with the store
also looking at previous comments is that 30% extra in tax right?
Hi! is there no option to join alpha one as of right now? only alpha 2 by preordering?
How's spawning going to work? Like once I die, will I just spawn at the nearest Node, or will there be checkpoints?
@surreal barn yep. Alpha one players are locked in (many are Kickstarter backers or preorders from years ago). They said they might open up the alpha one to more players at a later point, but right now there is no way to get access to it
@limpid gull We don't have an answer for that yet, sorry.
Ah, gotcha
Do summons auto attack to defend the summoner? If so is there anything stopping a summoner from running to a tree or wall and holding down w with something and afk farming experience?
We don't know how summoners work yet
@short flint dang okay thank you
How long is the declaration time from when someone declares a seige and when they can attack? Is there anything stopping a large guild/node to pay someone 1mil gold in game to fake attack a node so they remain safe for another 30 days?
You cannot stop people from joining a siege once it's declared, so no, you cannot fake a siege to abuse the cooldown period
@full badger sweet thatโs good news thank you
Oh, I forget, are we able to name nodes once they hit a certain level?
The mayor can pick from predetermined names
Is there any plan to cycle back through previously purchasable cosmetic items that players may have missed? For example, if someone begins purchasing cosmetic items next month but has missed stuff from the last 2-3 months, will there ever be chance for them to purchase some of those?
;_; Thanks @simple ether
Reskins/recolors may happen later on, or be achievable on release but the exact skin won't.
The most that i could think someone would do to try sabotage a siege to ensure 30 days safety is to ensure that the day that the seige lines up with is the quietest day of the week regarding amount of players on to stack the amount of defenders based on that.
Worried that they'll never happen on a weekend because of this โน
@dawn wyvern yea but Iโm sure a lot of them will happen on weekends. I do think this will be a mechanic to hinder sieges.
Is there fall damage?
yes
Is there underwater combat?
We have naval combat, underwater is unknown as of now.




