https://imgur.com/a/DcNjm6x @neat glade
#questions
formal zinc
neat glade
@formal zinc ty >< damm i missed some nice ones .. bought my pre order with the august 2020 one i feel robbed lol ><
will any of the past ones be available in game shop on release or are these going to be exsclusive to pre order and pre release ?
hardy bolt
Exclusive
formal zinc
but there may be similar ones, but not the same no
neat glade
ok cool . thx guys
formal zinc
np
south brook
Will there be sandstorms in the desert part of the map?
ruby swift
They have hope for dynamic weather but make no promises. It adds a lot of load apparently.
There will be regular weather like rain and such. Just people keep asking for hurricanes and other extreme weather that is apparently problematic.
serene flume
I guess extreme weather would interact with too many different things
faint tendon
any word on if we're getting another creative directors letter at some point?
ruby swift
Creative directors letters are meant to be quarterly. Maybe December
velvet citrus
extreme weather could come in combination with world events though 
faint tendon
ahh ok, wasn't aware they're quarterly
ruby swift
Meant to be, occasionally they are pushed till later while they wait for news.
bright grail
so dynamic weather is subset of conditions inside the seasonal rotation?
velvet citrus
@bright grail https://de.ashesofcreation.wiki/Seasons
ruby swift
Took me a minute before I realized I was reading the German wiki version.
charred timber
is there going to be a level cap in game? With that i mean character level
hard turtle
- I believe it's 50.
ruby swift
Yep, 50 is the planned cap atm. It will increase later with expansions.
velvet citrus
oh right, sorry for the german version π
ruby swift
No biggie, I was just trying to remember if they had described weather as Umgebungen at some point and I was losing my mind.
naive pollen
@formal zinc ty >< damm i missed some nice ones .. bought my pre order with the august 2020 one i feel robbed lol ><
@neat glade I don't feel robbed as such but sure wish I had the option to swap the August 2020 skins I'm getting for Realm of the Wakeless. Not crazy about ones I got now after seeing those. Why isn't that possible? Don't see how it could be that difficult to implement.
ruby swift
You have the option to purchase any future cosmetics at your tier or lower a la carte.
naive pollen
Yes I know, thanks. Alot of money tho and things are tight, was a stretch to get in at that level already (but did want the option).
sleek relic
Im curious how many people have supported AoC by spending 375 dollars
I would have done it if I was rich lol
ruby swift
There are no public sales figures.
Though the Kickstarter and Summer backing was just shy of 20k people with packages. We also know that they stopped the A1 access with 10k packages with that access sold. But other than that, there are no hard numbers that anyone beside them knows, and they aren't saying. Privately held companies have no legal obligation to disclose sales figures.
sleek relic
Yeah I am not looking for numbers haha
fierce cloak
Did the devs ever answer why they chose to develop on Unreal Engine?
fierce cloak
Thank you
woeful notch
If i buy one of the preorder packages how will i recieve the items?
faint tendon
they'll just be credited to your account, and usable once the game launches
crimson mulch
w
You have the option to purchase any future cosmetics at your tier or lower a la carte.
@ruby swift defiantly not pay to win ha
worst thing i hated about ff14
woeful notch
so when the game launches i just need to make sure i log in with my IS account that i bought it on?
crimson mulch
was that 95% of the costumes can only be purchased
under the title "not pay to win"
are most of the costumes like that ?
ruby swift
Cosmetics are not p2w as defined by the guy running the show. There will be cosmetics on par with those offered in the cash shop available in game. You can either choose to believe those promises or not.
so when the game launches i just need to make sure i log in with my IS account that i bought it on?
@woeful notch You can see the items listed in your inventory once purchased. The actual cosmetics will not be available till game launch. Though some might be used during testing if wanted and made available. This would impact live launch in no way, since all progress is wiped a final time before launch, and account bound cosmetics are not affected by that.
@crimson mulch
empty goblet
Any ideas when the release date for this game will be? late 2021? or at least for the beta
proven valve
2 years at least fam
empty goblet
i see
formal zinc
there is no ETA for launch or betas
empty goblet
if they're taking their time with it this WILL be insane
i can already see so much progress
proven valve
agreed
formal zinc
only thing we know is that later this fall Alpha 1 is live in case you didn't know
empty goblet
saw that ye
little kiln
we might get access to more alpha 1 keys later down the line
lone folio
well alpha 1 is no nda right? so the hype is only going to get bigger as the streamers make content
formal zinc
correct
full badger
@lone folio Intrepid will only allow the sale of more Alpha 1 keys if they need and can accommodate more testers
tame orbit
Alpha 2 is due isn't it?
tame orbit
New to the server, not really been following the game - but expected release is 2023 ? - Little hesitant to pre-order when bitten so many times in the past - Everquest Next springs to mind - So I'm kind of waiting to see more - but what I have seen looks amazing - but then, so did Everquest next and I'm still waiting for that.
full badger
@tame orbit Hi and welcome. There is no official release date given, but community estimates are 2-3 years away. If you are hesitant in pre-ordering, just wait. You don't gain any in-game advantages from pre-ordering so wait a bit and only pay up if you absolutely want to
tame orbit
π
Thanks for the heads up - Website is bookmarked. I look forward to seeing feedback and more video's in the future and chatting with our beloved purple haired Vanu friend. π
full badger
Keep an eye on the #news channel. We get monthly dev livestreams and discussions posted there @tame orbit And feel free to join the conversations in the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels
full marten
Do cleric abilities that heal "friendly" targets or "allies" heal any friendly or ally? Or is it group only? Does that also apply to the totem?
full badger
@full marten We don't know yet, sorry.
full marten
Alright then, here's some Sunday theorycraft instead:
On the subject of group AOE damage, how many mages should clerics be able to out heal?
full badger
Alright then, here's some Sunday theorycraft instead:
@full marten Feel free to move it down to the #aoc-discussion channel π
We want to keep this channel clear for questions and answers only
full marten
Thank you
timber stag
Does AoC Have any plans to appear in shops like Steam/Epic games?
full badger
@timber stag The devs have said they won't be putting Ashes on Steam. They haven't talked about any other platforms so far
timber stag
Clear, thanks! ^^
crystal beacon
Is it possible to change your display name on the Ashes forum?
crystal beacon
Thanks @reef osprey
lone magnet
who can explain me the drama surrounding ashens of creation apocalipse
full badger
@lone magnet It pretty much comes down to a lot of people didn't understand the purpose of APOC and how it related to the mmorpg development, and thought that Intrepid had used the kickstarter money to make a BR instead of an mmorpg.
lone magnet
can I still play it?
full badger
No, APOC is currently offline
lone magnet
what was it good for the development
full badger
The testing of APOC showed Intrepid a huge flaw in their backend infrastructure that they spent near to a year fixing.
It meant they were able to fix the flaw before they became a really big problem later on down the line
lone magnet
will AOC use the same combat system as APOC
slow meadow
no APOC was action only and AOC will be a hybrid of tab and action.
lone magnet
what does that mean you can only use action or only use tab if you want to
slow meadow
no you will have both types of abilities at the same time that you can customize to be at most 75% of one type.
lone magnet
what how can a ability be mixed
slow meadow
an ability will be one type at a time, but between augments and skill points leveling and changing the ability they can switch from tab to action abilities or vice versa
unreal zealot
as far as i can tell of hwo it works say you have an arrow ability that is tab target you can upgrade it by putting more skill point in it to make it rank 2 or 3 and those ranks would possibly turn into an action ability
misty crane
Do the Intrepid Packs include guild name reservations or is it just character name? Tried looking at my order history but there's no descriptions π
unreal zealot
just character name i think
misty crane
Ah, okay. Are guild name reservations a thing, or do we need to wait for the game to drop?
unreal zealot
steven did talk about the possibility of guilds selecting a server to go on before launch but im not sure how he explained it if anyone else could find a quote?
full badger
Guild name reservations were only available to kickstarter backers iirc (maybe summer backers too).
misty crane
Ah, okay. Thank you both π
full badger
Guilds reserving spaces on a server is different, and has only been very loosely discussed by Steven as a possibility
lone magnet
why did APOC have micro transaction? like cash shop battle pass if it was for testing only
unreal zealot
i think all those cosmetics can be used in the mmo as well
slow meadow
it was also testing the in game shop system, but all those things unlocked transfer to the MMO.
true finch
@lone magnet none said it was for testing exclusively. It was supposed to be a stand alone game, like the castle siege and horde mode testing ground. Getting income for future development is not a bad idea considering mmos take millions to build
Primary porpuse was testing backend systems and combat though
unreal zealot
it closed down because there was issues with the back end and they want to focus on the mmo for now
slow meadow
APOC will be back. The outcry from the community was "not enough MMO" so Intrepid switched focus to the Alpha 1 and will bring it back for additional castle siege/horde mode testing later.
true finch
@lone magnet it had many issues and wasnβt successful thus they decided to not continue it anymore. They got the testing they wanted and all the cosmetics you got in apoc can be used for the mmo
slow meadow
@unreal zealot that isn't quite right. It shut down once for them to fix the backend but it came back with the changes and was only shut down again to focus on Alpha 1. @true finch It wasn't about success it was about the community saying they weren't seeing enough MMO progress, so Intrepid switched focus to Alpha 1.
Intrepid stated APOC will be back sometime later for additional testing needs.
grim breach
it closed down because there was issues with the back end and they want to focus on the mmo for now
@unreal zealot That backend is also the one they're using on the MMORPG.
unreal zealot
well yeh thats pretty obvious XD
tired vector
Will we be able to put arena areas on our freeholds or will it be limited to military nodes?
full badger
That's an interesting question @tired vector I don't believe anyone has asked that before
lone magnet
they start with a 750.000 $ project got 3 million from kickstarter and then got like 40 million at that time when APOC was out and they still needed more money 
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
lone magnet
is there a date on alpha 1 ?
slow meadow
late fall this year
solid geode
Has there been any discussion on how Intrepid plans on stopping and / or giving players the tools to stop massive internet "coalitions" (things like 4chan, reddit mobs, etc) from controlling massive facets of the game indefinitely?
slow meadow
@solid geode The size of the world, limited fast travel, and the fact that not all nodes have mayors elected by voting all play into limiting that type of impact. That's a big question but Intrepid are aware they need some anti-zerg mechanisms in the game like the examples above.
crimson mulch
@crimson mulch
@ruby swift damn that message is 4 years old
glad that isnt like ff14 tho
gg looking forward to it more
solid geode
I agree that those elements of the game can help, but it doesn't mitigate the swaths of people that band together from those places to basically control an entire section of the map and stop anyone on the outside from enjoying various other aspects of the game.
slow meadow
We don't know the full range and depth of the systems at this point so there is no way to actually make that determination. We know they are aware of the impact zergs can have and they have discussed some high level details for handling it as mentioned, but that is the best answer that you can get for this channel. Anything beyond that is probably better suited for #aoc-discussion since its more opinion and speculation at that point.
solid geode
That's why I was hoping for an official answer.
winged bobcat
Poor Asmongold, he will be so useless withonly a few hundret cronies instead of a few thousand ^^
ancient frost
I was just wondering if this game will ever be on Xbox?
velvet citrus
pc master race
full badger
@ancient frost There are currently no plans to release the game on console
small pecan
At this time, no plans for Xbox! Just some light controller support on PC
verbal shard
PC master race amigo
tawdry swallow
Will mayors be able to name and make roles in government?
Like a captain of the guard role for example?
or are the roles pre set and the same in all nodes and types
I would love me being a captain of the guard
in charge in defense of the main gate during a siege
EPIC
full badger
From what we've been told, the node government positions are all titles that are pre-named
full badger
tawdry swallow
:/ awwwww no Captain
sturdy crater
lets make steven make it possible for custom titles
tawdry swallow
it would be epic
sturdy crater
KINGSGUAAAARD
tawdry swallow
problem is the trolls they will spam and ruin it
full badger
Feel free to discuss it more in the #aoc-discussion channel guys π
sturdy crater
thanks,m out
hidden urchin
Hey guys I'm new here and just starting to learn about the game. Being a finance guy, the most interesting aspect to me is the player driven economy. I had a few questions on how that might work. Forgive me if I don't know the proper terminology for specific things! Say we are in a metropolis and we need to find the best deals on a sword. Will you be able to purchase directly from a player owned blacksmithing shop or will you need to go to a centralized auction house? Will there be competing blacksmithing shops? Will you have the option of purchasing someone else's shop and building a chain? I am also wondering about real estate as well. If I purchase or build an apartment complex, can I rent the rooms out? Can I purchase multiple complexes? Thanks guys!
full badger
@hidden urchin Hi and welcome. First of all, there is no server-wide auction house. In fact, the auction house is a building specific to the economic nodes
So in order to find the best deals on things you will need to search around and interact with players directly
Players can set up market stalls in nodes or sell goods from their freeholds outside the nodes
Currently there is no system to rent out housing, although you could probably find a way a way around that if you really wanted to
ashen sentinel
Correct me please if im wrong but i do believe it was mentioned that there was a way to See items for sale at a location and possibly even purchase them remotely but you would still have to go pick them up.
i cant recall which stream it was mentioned
full badger
@ashen sentinel That is part of the super power of the economic node, where you can link the auction houses of economic nodes together
ashen sentinel
But you would still have to travel to gather the item purchased at the other node correct?
full badger
Correct
ashen sentinel
Wonderful Thank You i knew i had heard soemthing to that affect
full badger
@hidden urchin Finally, regarding housing, you are limited to 1 apartment (instanced) and 1 static housing (in a node) per server, and one freehold per account.
ancient pivot
meaning 1 account can have diff active characters on diff servers?
full badger
meaning 1 account can have diff active characters on diff servers?
@ancient pivot Correct
hidden urchin
Very interesting. Thank you for that info
ancient pivot
did they say anything about how easy it is to have diff characters on diff servers? as opposed to have 1 character transfered?
full badger
@hidden urchin No worries. You can read more about the housing and what it can do here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_housing
@ancient pivot Server transfers won't be available initially
ancient pivot
but different chars on diff servers will be simple?
full badger
I don't see why not
ancient pivot
awesome thank you
surreal gorge
Are any parts of the game going to have any full loot pvp zones ?
desert ivy
No
real sleet
... a way to See items for sale at a location and possibly even purchase them remotely but you would still have to go pick them up.
@ashen sentinel
What you are referring to are the bulletin boards in taverns. Those will list what is on sale in your area but you will still need to visit the shop the buy that stuff
ashen sentinel
Exactly Thank You.
digital raft
will there be ip blocks in the future?
say if i want to play on NA server while in asia?
full badger
@digital raft no, there won't be region or IP blocking
digital raft
thanks for the note. Where will the server be in NA?
wise steppe
clear moon
hello i have very many questions
starting off will there be a SEA server?
full badger
@clear moon At launch, yes
chrome flax
When is this downloadable in steam?
full badger
Right now they are only planning to have NA and EU servers for testing
@chrome flax Ashes of Creation won't be released on Steam
chrome flax
Okay thanks, when can asia try to test?
clear moon
alright
also the only way to access beta is to buy one of the packs in the store that start at 75 USD?
desert ivy
There will be some key giveaways for Beta 2 by content creators and people who have spare keys from Kickstarter
formal zinc
they will self publishing on their own launcher @chrome flax
chrome flax
alrightm thanks @formal zinc
clear moon
alright thanks
finally what are the minimum requirements for this game? I dont think i caught it on the website
chrome flax
and how huge is the game file?
formal zinc
we dont have info on those matters
desert ivy
We don't know what the requirements will be like when the game actually launches. There are system requirements for the Alpha 1 stage on their website, but it will 100% change when it gets closer to launch
Again, those are alpha 1 requirements, they will change a lot before full release
clear moon
also now that I think about it how do characters work?
would i be able to like "oh this raid group needs a healer, let me bring my healer character "
or am i stuck to one char for my account
wise marsh
Question about the statue that players can get from the pandemic? Do I need to buy the game to get it? Iβm registered and made an account but I havenβt pre ordered the game yet and was wondering if that will affect me getting it when I get the game later.
full badger
@wise marsh All you need to get the covid-19 statue is create an account before September 7th. No purchases necessary
desert ivy
@clear moon You can have multiple characters, but ofc you'd need to level them all separately
desert ivy
Yep
desert ivy
We dont know the exact amount of characters that will be allowed, but you'll be allowed more than 1, that's for sure
wise marsh
@full badger thank you I donβt want to miss out on it.
full badger
The covid-19 commemorative statue, yes
forest pike
dry harbor
hmm, I made my account but I don't see the covid 19 statue in inventory
crystal beacon
It's only a question and by no means I'm trying to be disrespectful. [Was told to ask mainly here]. >> Hope subscription won't be affected. Really wish to play it...
β’ So currently USD is higher then EURO.
β’ The "Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack" costs $375 which is equivalent to 316.55β¬
β’ I'm located in Portugal [Low Income / High Tax: 23%] Min. Wage of 580-600β¬
β’ Intrepid states: "Certain regions will have "harmonized" subscription prices that better reflect their local economies."
β’ Why charge 416.66β¬ for a 375$ pack even though USD has more value then EURO?
β’ Will it also influence the base subscription monthly price set as: 12,91β¬ per month?
short flint
I am not sure if they discussed harmonization of shop prices. But I do know that they will be harmonizing prices for subscriptions. But, if you pay for your harmonized monthly subscription, you might not be able to play in other regions. This was addressed in the AMA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBCY-A-GUqI&t=2694s
formal zinc
They are working on in an EU shop
crystal beacon
Thank you, for the info, I really appreciate. Just hope it won't be to expensive to play given at least my circumstances.
Wish I had heard about it while it was still on kickstarter ^-^
short flint
You and me both, @crystal beacon I heard about it this week. While I was testing Amazon's New World Beta.
arctic sky
@short flint you poor soul
short flint
New World was a beautiful game. Easily 10/10 on graphics. Oops, wrong channel. Also, you might be saying Poor Soul for only hearing about it in 1 week. not sure which π
short coral
Beautiful game, terrible combat system
dry harbor
sorry, so was that covid statue actually given out to accounts yet? Not seeing it in my account inventory π¦
crystal beacon
Where do you even check account inventory?
crystal beacon
I don't have that option...
crystal beacon
Yes and yes am I allowed to post a print?
crisp holly
It is not placed into your inventory, as long as you have made an account before a date(idk what the exact date is) you will get it but right now it is not being placed into people's inventory like the skins are
crystal beacon
Nevermind never noticed it
crystal beacon
But yeah I created the account before the Covid Statue event but don't have anything in it.
young spire
i even got the older shop stuff too
fading valley
The game access hasnt started yet
young spire
isn`t it fall already ?
onyx knoll
Fall 2020 starts on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 (in 16 days) and ends on Monday, December 21st 2020 (in 106 days)
Alpha 1 will start sometime during that period, not necessarily right on sept 22nd
unborn dune
is the cheapest version of the game at the moment 75& ?
formal zinc
to pre order it, yes
unreal zealot
chepest version of the game is $15 a month on launch
onyx knoll
The game itself will be free to download, you don't need to spend anything, you'll just need to pay the sub when it launches π
unborn dune
so when are we able to actually play the game cause board out my brains
arctic sky
VAT is determined by your local gov
onyx knoll
not for a while, unfortunately, unless you want to help with the testing phases
crystal beacon
@arctic sky True I feel stupid for having typed that, please erase it from your mind haha.
unborn dune
id happily help with the testing phase but what is the requirements for that
onyx knoll
You can buy a pack that has alpha 2 or beta access to get in earlier if you wanted to
crystal beacon
Well I'm doomed then β¬416.66 if I want Alpha + Beta Access and β¬15.88 per month then (made the math).
unborn dune
ah right i get you then you said alpha stars between sept 22 and dec 21
onyx knoll
That's alpha 1, currently you can't buy into it
We don't know yet the dates for alpha 2
arctic sky
@crystal beacon you can just wait for launch and py the 15/month no other purchase necessary
unborn dune
okay no problem is their any estimated time for the games full release
young spire
good question, i am already old af :)))
unborn dune
XD
onyx knoll
No official estimates for full release, the community likes to say 2-3 years π
severe coyote
sorry but if you're going to struggle with 15 a month its probably best to not spend that much on an alpha pack
unborn dune
dam will be a good game tho
fading valley
Alpha 2 will be the PTS service, or thats the idea correct?
desert ivy
A2 will become the games version of PTS yes
short flint
PTS?
arctic sky
public test server
short flint
Ahhh, thanks
arctic sky
might be wrongg with the p
tall jacinth
I dont know if you can answer it but what is your favorite quest that you made so far in ashes of creation?
desert ivy
The 4th quest in the 3rd zone from the 8th NPC I spoke to
onyx knoll
@tall jacinth This channel is meant for community members to answer questions, the devs don't look in here much ^^'
short flint
@tall jacinth If you are interested in the questing system, here is some information for you. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Quests
fading valley
Are mounts race restricted?
desert ivy
No
orchid needle
Is there a list of all the different cosmetics that have already been released from previous packages?
just curious
formal zinc
serene flume
are these be only pre order or will they be in the shop when tge game is released?
damn π¦ missed some amazing ones
fading valley
yeah i really wanted tidebreaker
orchid needle
mvp thank you @formal zinc
crystal beacon
When is Sieges for Apoc coming? I remember it wasn't too far while playing the BR. However, this was a long time ago now.
orchid needle
If I were to back the game this month, but I like the cosmetics that come out in the next months package...am I able to change my package?
desert ivy
No but you can buy the cosmetics in future months
orchid needle
Damn
hexed stratus
is there any AoC merchandise i can buy?
arctic sky
not currently
hexed stratus
alright
viral sigil
Why did they get rid of the merch? I want a t shirtπ«
woeful zephyr
you can buy my lanyard for 50 dollars
quartz wing
so the pay with google play seems broken btw.
Tried it a few times, and then used the pay with credit card and it worked
desert ivy
They got rid of the merch like 2 years ago unfortunately. The merch that was on the store was quite decent
hexed stratus
Very unfortunate
void heath
Hey all! just was hoping to confirm a piece of node information please. Once a node reaches level 1 it should lock the surrounding nodes correct? I saw in the wiki it was at stage 3 but felt that that was wrong. now i can't find that statement to link lol.
small pecan
The vassal system begins when a node hits stage 3 (village), but neighboring nodes lower than stage 3 also block the growth of their immediate neighbors.[27]
onyx knoll
Yep, a rank 1 node will prevent surrounding rank 0 nodes from getting to rank 1
void heath
thank you xenellia, i thought so but even the above statement is rather confusing
onyx knoll
mhh, we could try to reword it so it's a bit less confusing π€
digital yacht
How so? It clearly states anything lower then 3 blocks growth of immediate neighbors and tier 3 the vassal system kicks in
void heath
maybe i'm misreading let me parse through it
ones the vassal system and ones th elock out right
i see, thanks a ton jahlon
the way i was understanding it was that the neighboring nodes were stuck at 0 until the parent was 3 and i didn't think that was right
like they had to wait for the vassal system to kick in finally, glad thats not the case
outer anchor
So the vassal nodes are stuck a level below the parent node but surrounding nodes arent instantly vassal nodes, it has to grow a bit before that happens
slow meadow
all nodes are locked out by nodes around them. the vassal part only kicks in at stage 3. Vassal means that excess XP from a lower adjacent node flows up to the parent so that it can grow thus allowing the vassals to grow. Before level 3 things are simply locked out. if a node grows to stage 2 everything near it caps at 1 and excess xp from those level 1s doesn't go anywhere.
outer anchor
huh i didnt think they were locked until they were vassal nodes
slow meadow
I'll just quote jahlons earlier answer for ease π
boreal sparrow
woah.. so the bear mount cosmetic was sold last december 2019, does that mean only people who bought it at that time will only be the ones riding a bear in game?
arctic sky
will be riding that particular bear
carmine oar
The owlbear looking one?
boreal sparrow
the brown bear one
carmine oar
Ah
boreal sparrow
i missed out on it π¦
grizzled oasis
@boreal sparrow no, still going to be bears, just not that specific bear/accessory combo
boreal sparrow
@grizzled oasis ohh i see
stuck dock
Will each class have their own synergistic abilities such as the tanks wall and the summoners siege summon? Maybe a mass forcefield with mages?
onyx knoll
That's the plan as far as I know π They just haven't revealed what all of them will be
crystal beacon
they've mentioned tank walls and summoner super summons.
merry cradle
Can taverns and shops be co owned? Or can you at least hire people?
chilly hedge
In a sense, yes. When you put a tavern on your freehold plot, you certainly own it yourself
merry cradle
So you donβt run them yourself?
chilly hedge
However, it will be possible to give other people access to your freehold, which should include tavern operation
I would imagine you run the tavern yourself, we have no details yet though
merry cradle
Alright. Thank you.
raw crest
Guys i have a question, will there be a limit to how many members a guild can have? How i see it currently is, there doesnt seem to be a point to join any guild besides the most dominant on the server
arctic sky
guilds will have a skill tree and will have to spend points to grow their player limit
or they can ignore player limit and spec into other things
raw crest
I see thats smart
digital yacht
starts at 50 and caps at 300 if u select all perks to iuncrease
shell rock
Did they release the date for the 1st Alpha?
meager dragon
"fall" and "end of the year"
cerulean surge
@digital yacht where do I get that information? I know the hard cap 300 but where does it refer to starting cap?
digital yacht
The maximum size for a guild that chooses all available skill options will be between 30 and 50.[4]
woven niche
Can i make a dark elf in this game, with skin color atleast
serene dock
we prolly have no deets on this, but any word on if theres going to be auto run? I'm imagining a pretty big world and if you want to journey to another town or city or even metropolis not having to hold down 'w' constantly for 45 minutes+ would be hella nice on some fingers and keyboards.
hard turtle
Can i make a dark elf in this game, with skin color atleast
@woven niche
I'd say it's safe to assume it's very likely.
we prolly have no deets on this, but any word on if theres going to be auto run? I'm imagining a pretty big world and if you want to journey to another town or city or even metropolis not having to hold down 'w' constantly for 45 minutes+ would be hella nice on some fingers and keyboards.
@serene dock
MMOS tend to have that. Safe to say yes.
stable plover
@serene dock There will be an autorun in straight line button, but not a pathing to anywhere feature, There will be things like node to node horse/flight paths that can be developed
hard turtle
^^^
serene dock
this is great to hear π
outer tree
if u reffer someone and they put u as a referral and buy $375 package, how and when do u receive ur 15%
ruby swift
Obtain cash rewards on a quarterly basis after Ashes of Creation has launched.[1] https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program
shadow juniper
hi guys , this game can download and play yet plz ?
spiral pine
no
shadow juniper
ah ok thank you
full badger
@shadow juniper Just to elaborate a bit. The game is currently in pre-alpha. Alpha 1 testing is due to start this year and continue from there.
potent thunderBOT
shadow juniper
thanks @full badger
bitter trench
My main concern for this game is having 64 classes, is this not too ambitious; How do you go about with balance ?
honest solstice
balancing is based around the trinity system of healer tank and damage dealer also balanced on a 8 man basis
bitter trench
appreciate the link thanks.
honest solstice
=]
bitter trench
If there's floors in the classes, gamers will exploit thoses classes and the other 30 odd classes will never get a mention. Example if a rogue knight has the highest dps in game, nearly every dps player will roll a rogue knight ...etc seems an impossible task for you to balance so many variations... i do wish you all the luck
honest solstice
balancing will defentally be hard the only part i can thing of is that you cannot change your base class only your secondary class can be changed
spiral pine
speculate in discussions instead
bitter trench
players will dissect every single tiny element to every class, sub class, armour, skill trees .....
dire pond
Yes true but to put it in pratice and have the specific item desired you will need recipe and buff and a lot of ressources and time to upgrade 1 character
bitter trench
Yes i understand, making this game is not just for one type of player must be so difficult. Players who will play 16 hours a day and then you have people who play 16 hours a week. So classes become stronger the more hours you play
cedar abyss
Has there been any update on when the character creation might come out?
safe idol
Probably a repeated question, but does anyone know if there is gonna be some sort of AH in AoC?
And if so how will it work?
full badger
@cedar abyss We haven't been given any more information on the character creator yet, sorry
@safe idol The auction house is a building specific to economic nodes.
cedar abyss
ok, thanks
full badger
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Auction_house You can read more about it here
safe idol
Thx π
teal yarrow
I imagine the time it takes to meta-mise (meta-mise? Is that a word? don't care I'm using it) will be quite long since there wont be any graphs, nor the ability to have addons that tracks dps, so maybe the rouge knight indeed does more dps... have fun figuring out if it actually does.
young thicket
How many people are developing the narration quest lines? How far has it developed so far?
crystal beacon
Weapons and armour that is crafted by players will surely have the crafters name on them right @full badger I.e Crafted by: xxxx
wind briar
Are you able to have a character on two different regions? Like, lets say I wanted one on EU and one on NA. Would that be possible?
crystal beacon
@wind briar As far as I know thereβs no region locks or IP blocking
ruby swift
There was going to be a restriction between EU/CIS and everywhere else before. After the My.Games split it is assumed that will no longer be a requirement. Further guidance to come.
scarlet lantern
Will they add more races in the game or is it final with the current races?
verbal abyss
When it comes to animal husbandry and animal taming, husbandry professions have insurmountable and lucrative options. They get to breed regular mounts, royal mounts, pets and livestock. Tamers just tame an animal. I really want to be an animal tamer, but I don't really see how you'll be able to sustain yourself. How many animals are there in the world, and what other skills will you be able to have in order to make sure it's not redundant and you're able to actually make a living in the game?
ruby swift
Will they add more races in the game or is it final with the current races?
@scarlet lantern Never say never but highly doubtful since they have a no scope-creep mentality.
scarlet lantern
oh okey
ruby swift
There are meant to be hundreds of different mobs eventually. The gathering, processing, and crafting professions have had very barebones information given about their complexity and how they complement each other. Suggest waiting before assuming anything is better than anything else.
verbal abyss
When it comes to mobs, you mean mounts? Like regular mounts or combinations of mounts?
ruby swift
Any monster in the world is meant to be tameable, with the exception of certain named mobs and world bosses. Taming is just not for mounts, there are combat pets, mules and others.
ruby swift
Don't know, as I said earlier, not everything has been released concerning the artisan trees.
river plank
Siege beasts
hidden urchin
I've heard rumors that there will be anywhere from 8-80k people per server. Is there a more accurate number? Also, with so many players, how is Intrepid planning on preventing freeholds from becoming a clustered mess? Are we only allowed to place freeholds in specific places or is there a minimum distance between them?
lean marlin
believe it's actually 10k, idk where that 80k number is coming from.
dry flower
there is 8 - 10k concurrent players per server (as in 8 - 10k online at the same time) how many online and offline members each server can hold is unknown
fallow kindle
so I know this isn't an "open beta" game... are there any "pre-order" packs that will allow access to playing right now?
little kiln
no
fallow kindle
Whomp whomp
fallow kindle
thats the alpha two access?
little kiln
there are pacs that will allow you to test in alpha 2 to beta 2
fallow kindle
gotcha
dry flower
but those don't have dates yet
fallow kindle
right
little kiln
and depending on how alpha 1 goes, we might see A1 keys sold again
fallow kindle
are these alpha beta stages persistant? or is everything getting wiped?
lean marlin
A2 is.
fallow kindle
nice
lean marlin
but everything is getting wiped.
little kiln
there will be some persistance between alpha 2 and beta 2 but expect wipes to happen here and there and before launch
lean marlin
fairly certain A2 is going to be the "ptr"
fallow kindle
gotcha
tepid harbor
wait a sec, I always just assumed but never asked: The world is persistent, right ?
lean marlin
after the B2 wi[e yes.
dry flower
like, after launch?
little kiln
as persistant as the node system is, yes
i mean, if you leave for a month dont be suprised to see your home town wiped off the map
earnest copper
how does the persistant alpha work?
(yall just talked about it, but I guess I don't understand what persistant means in regards to the servers)
so my 'save game' for lack of a better term stays active untill launch?
will it get wiped at launch or will there be servers with early access people
oh ok
so there will be test servers, and regular servers?
and test servers will probably stay active like archage, but could become transient?
random flume
is there any version of ashes of creation avaible right now if so can i have a link?
lime topaz
Nope, only if you have an alpha 1 key can you play later this fall
random flume
ok cool thanks
topaz imp
Wait if a2 becomes the test server are they gonna wipe or just leave it?
hidden urchin
Do we have any idea how freeholds will be organized? Specific plots to choose from or can you place one anywhere? What will be the minimum distance between two freeholds?
onyx knoll
From how they've explained it so far, it looks like they want it to be that you can chose where you want to place it, as long as it's not too close to some things, you can read up on it here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds#Freehold_placement
naive citrus
Hello guys! Sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place... Someone knows if the skins that are released for buy pack will be acessible to buy in game on the future? Or if they are unique to who buy the packs?
lusty kite
Skins in the shop are only available for that month. Once they are gone, they are gone
formal zinc
when they are gone, gone for ever
lusty kite
you will not be able to buy them again, once the month is over
naive citrus
So it means when the game is released its impossible to by them right? π€
formal zinc
but may be some similar ones in the future in the in game cosmetics shop, but not the same
lusty kite
correct, you wont' be able to buy say the skins from this month, 2-3 years from now when the game launches
hidden urchin
Can we purchase pre-release cosmetics with embers?
lusty kite
you can use the embers after the game launches, not before
naive citrus
I see. Thanks a lot! I'll try to get them til the end of the month. There is a date when they will be changed for the next pre purchase pack?
formal zinc
october 7th 11am pacific
naive citrus
Just to be sure the corresponding monthly fee that are included in the pack will be count just when it release right? Not in the beta
onyx knoll
correct
naive citrus
Ok! Thanks a lot guys! β€οΈ
polar mica
Hey there :)
First off all, thank you for creating "The MMO" I am dreaming off for a while now.
As I like the concept of mages being effected by seasons, will you also implement elemental resistances?
Example: A fire ball may have no effect on a Lava Golem
lime topaz
but to play alpha 2 you need to pay like 250
naive citrus
Well. If you ask me its worth since you do have some months of sub added in that fee
next viper
@lime topaz yes, but if I don't have to sub, I save what, 2 years worth of sub?
Also what Shakko says.
lusty kite
@simple ether I was watching your freeholds video again (thank you again for the great content). As i recall, if your node falls, but you successfully defend your freehold, you have a 7 day grace period. Hopefully in this time, you are able to help build back up your node to at least level 3 so your freehold will remain. However, it is possible that when your node falls, the others close by previously locked, could expand (increase in progression) and as a result your node is stuck at level 2. If this is the case, then you would 'loose' your freehold correct?
ruby swift
In that case you would be hoping that a neighboring node of at least level 3 would expand its ZOI to cover your freehold.
oak depot
If that does happen you can claim citizenship with the new node that exerted itβs ZOI on your freehold
real sleet
Besides the initial growth phase will there be a map space without any ZOI?
As I understand it, every part of the map will be in a castle's ZOI and possibly in some kind of economic region. But will there be places.where no node has any influence?
ionic swan
How many skills/spells does a class have , and if you choose 2nd class the same as the 1st one , does that mean you unlock extra skills/spells?
slow meadow
we don't know specifics on number of skill as its too early, but your secondary class will only grant augments that you can apply to skills not new skills.
ionic swan
Thank you!
@simple ether If you choose like 2x Rogues , its gonna be probably less than 15 xD
keen minnow
Eh that depends if you're doing most action or most tab
desert ivy
Your secondary archetype doesn't affect the number of skills on your bar, so a rogue/rogue would have the same amount of skills as a rogue/fighter or rogue/mage or rogue/anything else
glass bough
I heard that seasons will affect certain schools of arcane magic. Will dynamic weather have similar affects?
short flint
So, in Steven's example - you use Teleport to augment charge/rush. Can you choose between using Normal Rush and Augmented rush? This could be beneficial in instances where you have Fire on Rush, and you are running into fire immune mobs possibly?
oak depot
@short flint I donβt believe you can but no official statement. Mentality of the game is risk vs. reward and choices that matter. So if you choose such an augment it has positives and negatives. You can always change your augments in the future.
hidden urchin
Will there be survival aspects like hunger, thirst and exposure?
short flint
I've questions on Augments, but they aren't released yet π¦ feels bad.
oak depot
Will there be survival aspects like hunger, thirst and exposure?
@hidden urchin you can eat and drink in game. There is no indication you can die of starvation or thirst though. You can drown if underwater though and you run out of air or do not have magical means of underwater breathing
Eating and drinking can provide time based buffs
Not sure what you mean by exposure
hidden urchin
Like freezing to death
spiral pine
there will probably be debuffs related to exposure
vapid creek
I have to catch up on a lot of info for this game..where do I start/find that info needed?
oak depot
Wiki, Ashes 101
vapid creek
Much appreciated
lost turtle
Does anyone know if the Intrepid Studios positions might open to remote-work? It's listed as on-site, but a lot of companies have been reconsidering that due to the pandemic, and I'm curious if Intrepid is one of them.
Gotcha, and I'm assuming mostly remote with travel as needed isn't likely.
I wish more tech companies were outside of Cali. π
clear moon
will there be any sort of dps meter?
or like a place where you can practice rotations of sort and get feedback?
outer anchor
i imagine there will be, there wont be any addons
oak depot
No DPS meters
You will have access to a combat log. Unclear if it will be just your combat log or your partyβs. No live parsing is allowed via add ons
outer anchor
oh yea, they wont put em in hopes of making it harder for a meta bto happen
outer anchor
eh yea
clear moon
or like a place where you can practice rotations of sort and get feedback?
what about this
outer anchor
honestly idk
hybrid prism
The tank is the practice dummy. @clear moon
stiff parrot
Is intrepid or aoc taking volunteers in any areas at the moment?
clear moon
the tank?
hybrid prism
Which is a tongue in cheek way of saying that it'll be by experimentation.
Figure out exactly what effects each stat has for DPS and HPS. I plan to record everything as a general rule once I'm able to go back and dissect in between server windows to get a grasp of how they're handling each stat and system, even if I know the exact value will change continuously up to launch. Familiarity is the key to figuring this stuff out quickly once it is finalized.
full badger
Is intrepid or aoc taking volunteers in any areas at the moment?
@stiff parrot Right now they aren't, but they might do further down the line
near pilot
Is Ashes of Creation out yet?
full badger
@near pilot We're still in Pre-alpha right now. Alpha 1 testing is due to start this year
!playtest
near pilot
Thank you for the fast reply!
full badger
no worries π
near pilot
I haven't waited so eagerly for an MMO since GW2. The game looks awesome! Keep up the awesome work!
unreal zealot
in b4 crab armour costs 20k embers
young spire
great, thanks
i see a lot of content for groups of players, for "nice" type of players, but is there like content for more singular player types such as my self ?
like professions such as thieving, like actually pick locking someone's house or thieving around the town or infiltrating other people towns even too you are not a citizen, etc etc etc, i have lots of ideas if you want to discuss it further π
desert ivy
I mean, sure there will be some content for solo players, but a large amount of the game is being built around groups of players
It's why socialising and guilds are talked about so much
You won't be able to steal from peoples houses
young spire
that would be pretty sad tbf there is a lot of loners out there tbf , not only me and many ppl i met around the mmorpg i used to play since like 20 years now are similar to me
desert ivy
At least not normally, can only fight in peoples houses and stuff after the node the freehold resides in has been successfully sieged
You have 2+ years to find a guild so no rush
tired lava
There is a Thieves Guild you can join
young spire
ok, imagine this, not all will wanna follow around this mayor dude who controls their town , their lives, i think we get enough of that in real life, some will just wanna do side jobs such as while some are sieging and trying to control territories and all that there will be people like me who will just wanna benefit from their siege and go around, thieving, benefiting from their "work" etc etc
sounds good to me
an NPC guild, very nice
i gotta say, not all wanna be lead by some wacko who's interest is only his self interest even too he plays his role nice as a leader of men so to say ( watch the boys xD )
hidden urchin
dont live in an economic node
young spire
i imagine a lot of lonely players out there will want to be successful as well with their own strength points rather then group up or follow others around just to be able to make it in the vast world of ashes
oh and not to mention, those lonely players will also want a bit of recognition for their talents even too their not part of some vast town organization or guild or w/e
hidden urchin
I mean the greatness of an MMORPG is really its ability to bring people together
desert ivy
If you're looking for a game where you can solo, this probably isn't the game for you
young spire
you are already together if you playing the game my man, what you mean
onyx knoll
Please keep this channel clear for questions π Feel free to move discussions over to #aoc-discussion ^^
young spire
aight thanks for you time
valid swift
Do we have info on whether elves are the long-lived race like other fantasy series or are the similar to humans?
bitter trench
Hi, i know there hasn't been official price of how much this will cost a month, the question im asking will you be able to buy 6 months or 12 months at a cheaper price as some one paying every month... 1 month =Β£10 could i buy 12 months at Β£100 .... etc
steady ocean
We only know that the monthly sub fee will be $15 a month, which will include the full base game + all future DLC/expansions. We haven't been given any more info as to plans for bulk sub discounts as far as I know @bitter trench
bitter trench
Thanks is that about Β£12 in English money
steady ocean
You will be able to pay for your subscription in full though via referrals if the people you referred spend money on subscription and/or cosmetics (I think Steven/Jeff said it will be 7-8 people needed for a free sub).
pale oak
When you die in the game will you loose everything in your inventory or will it be auto saved?
formal zinc
you lose a % of your gathering. Unless you are corrupted, then you might lose some gear too
pale oak
Oh my...
short flint
digital yacht
i think youll be fine.. just dont overdue it lol
short flint
I would be confident that they would request you to not be toxic.
desert ivy
No one is gonna care if you call someone a bitch lmao
just don't use hate speech or take it too far
crystal beacon
Does anyone know, because the crowdfunding is closed, but if I pre order, do I still get the crowdfunding bonuses?
im just using that as an example
IE can we as a collective shittalk another collective of players
desert ivy
Yes, Steven wants that kind of stuff in the game since he loves guild drama
tardy flint
I'd be super down to play an MMO with PvP that doesn't have a weird tolerance for hate speech.
full badger
@crystal beacon You only get the bonuses of the specific pre-order pack you buy
desert ivy
Check #aoc-guild-chat , there's plenty of shit talking going on in there already
crystal beacon
Oh okii x_x"
Thankies
full badger
@crystal beacon If you click on the "View more info" button underneath each pack in the shop, it will tell you what that pack contains
digital yacht
Does anyone know, because the crowdfunding is closed, but if I pre order, do I still get the crowdfunding bonuses?
@crystal beacon no those were backer only rewards
crystal beacon
Yeah I know, I was just kinda hoping that I wouldn't be too late for the crowdfunding bonuses, but because it's closed, I can't buy the game over that anymore, only the pre order
Okiii
Thankies you all
I will go then, see you around or on the battlefield <3
hybrid prism
Shit talking is fine. Racial epithets and threatening to doxx/murder/kill pets isn't. So basically common sense. Calling someone a bitch boy or saying they're trash at PVP is fine.
Basically resist the heated gamer moments
plain plinth
Is there a way to link ashes account to the discord?
placid vessel
Nope.
plain plinth
How do people get like βapocalypse testerβ then?
Iβm just curious really π
tulip hatch
NDA channels get their own tags so we manually verify those
Eventually there will be integrations with the website so its not a manual process but for now we verify and tag the members
plain plinth
Ohhh ok ok cool thank you! I got the alpha 2 package and didnβt know if I could link up when the time comes if there will be a tag for it lmao that helps a lot!
gloomy sable
manic marten
Hi, I'm part of a small gaming community for people with disabilities, and some need assistance software to be able play games (think moving around, using the cursor, shooting or casting abilities and such). Have you guys thought about whitelisting such software? IDK any names of software they use though so I might come back on that later. Some of my members are asked as testers for other games sometimes, so I could ask them to get in touch with you. I imagine this is pretty low on the development priorities ladder but just throwing it in here π
full badger
Hi @manic marten. This isn't really something we can answer at this early stage in the development, but I would encourage you to post your thoughts and suggestions on the forums where other players can give their input and be seen more by the developers.
manic marten
Allrighty, thanks and will do!
fierce cloak
What happens to my house/freehold if my server gets merged to another server a year after due to population drop?
unreal zealot
as far as im aware the merged server world would start again but you would keep your stuff
so you would have to re level nodes to get back to your house
hybrid prism
Odds are any server merges would be low pop world being added to medium pop world, with the nodes coming from the medium pop and everything in the low pop going to storage. That's pure speculation, but with how long it takes to build up nodes, I don't see a full wipe of two servers' progress.
unreal zealot
thats more likely and more reasonable, but intrepid arnt really focused on that issue its more of a cross the bridge when you get to it thing
timid marsh
Sorry if this has been answered, but has there been any release info for alpha 2? I purchased the voyager plus pack a week ago and noticed the lack of info on it, and as of now there is no way to join alpha 1 unless something has changed that I cannot see.
formal zinc
There is not release date for alpha 2
unreal zealot
alpha 2 will most likley be q3 or q4 2021 that is the community speculation
tawdry scaffold
Im pretty sure alpha 1 is planned for the end of this year at some point. No date for alpha 2 as of yet.
rigid rose
Alpha 1 is currently planned for this fall... there is no date for Alpha 2 as it will depend on how the A1 development and testing goes.
timid marsh
oh, hmmm.... so in essence right now, I am in a blunt way, out $375 waiting a full year to play? If so I understand, but also so wish there was a way to join!!!!
rigid rose
There is the possibility that after A1 starts and if things are going well and they need to up the number of testers that they will enable the sale of A1 again... we do not know for sure and is a maybe.
unreal zealot
i mean when you buy the packs your mostly putting an investment into the game with embers and game time among cosmetics as a reward along with the alpha 1 and betas
timid marsh
I know, Im just very scatter brained and tend to forget things after a bit if I have no interaction with it. But I do like the style of the game, which is again why I understand, albeit am now hoping things go very well so I could try it for myself π
unreal zealot
a year will go by real quick loads of other games are coming out soon as well to distract you ;P
timid marsh
any recommendations on what games would be similar to sink my teeth into while I wait?
stiff parrot
Thank you for answering my question @full badger
unreal zealot
@timid marsh best we go into #general-discussion
timid marsh
ok, thank you
languid vector
Hello everyone! Was thinking about purchasing AoC, does anyone know if The Heat and Harmony cosmetic addons will be exclusive once they disappear. or will all these monthly cosmetics come back to the shop once the game launches?
languid vector
Awesome, thank you π
empty palm
Is it possible to upgrade to a higher tier package if I were to purchase the $75 one, then grab the cosmetics I want, then upgrade once I have the money to do so?
dark jungle
yes
unreal zealot
you can upgrade and buy next months $75 cosmetic, and upgrade later on but your restricted to the corresponding cosmetics of each pack
stable plover
If you upgrade you keep the original cosmetics you had, and only gain the cosmetics from the high tier pack that didn't belong to your low tier pack (without buying a low tier item individually)
empty palm
So, forgive me for misunderstanding this if I have, but I can't buy the $75 pack, then buy the costume, boat and mount cosmetics? I have to buy the pack with those cosmetics to gain them?
unreal zealot
yes
stable plover
Correct
unreal zealot
your best bet is to save up till 6th sept then buy the pack with the cosmetics you want after that you can buy the cosmetics sepreatly
stable plover
^ The image is color coded as to what each pack lets you buy individually
empty palm
Ahh, ok. I'll have to hard save up then. I had asked previously a while back, and I thought it was a case of, buying any pack gave you access to purchase individual cosmetics.
I understand now thanks!
worthy coyote
if i buy the game now (or the preorder ) when can i play it ?
unreal zealot
what ever your corresponding pack gives alpha 2 will be late next year depending on how alpha 1 goes and beta 1 and 2 beyond
worthy coyote
ok
grim breach
alpha 2 will be late next year
Reminder that this is only a community speculation.
unreal zealot
^ i got lazy its 5:30 am for me xD
fiery anchor
Will villages and towns etc. Be pvp free zones or can you still fight in the towns?
hard turtle
@fiery anchor From what footage I can recall. There can be a fight in a town. But this was before alpha-1.
digital yacht
Will villages and towns etc. Be pvp free zones or can you still fight in the towns?
@fiery anchor Fighting can occur in towns but NPC guards will attack corrupted players
alpine basin
TBH I've been following this game a bit and ordered a pre order. I havent seen any information on what will show up for email information on the launcher or anything. Thoughts? ....or am I just blind
clear moon
will there be any safe areas at all?
hard turtle
TBH I've been following this game a bit and ordered a pre order. I havent seen any information on what will show up for email information on the launcher or anything. Thoughts? ....or am I just blind
@alpine basin
Fairly sure we won't see the launcher for awhile. ||Unless you wanna count the APoC version?||
will there be any safe areas at all?
@clear moon
I'd imagine yes. Of course. I suppose you can say the indoor areas are safe. Outdoors can have some risks. But outside of towns. Thats where the animals are.
alpine basin
@hard turtle thanks for the note. I'm in college for game development and I completely understand how long things take. This is what makes it so exciting. I have a sense of what to look for. Just a little antsy is all. Lol
hard turtle
@alpine basin Keep on, keeping on.
placid agate
why are the devs etc advertising addons packs etc for skins and we cant even play the game yet?
full badger
@placid agate Simple, there's demand for it. If players didn't buy the packs and cosmetics, Intrepid would stop making them
final oxide
yeah theyre dope
rare folio
Iβve seen multiple packs come out, or I think I have. Is there a way to get the bonuses of the other packs? Or is a 75$ purchase only going to get me the new flame packs that are available?
knotty quest
That question might have been already answered somewhere, but I kind of can't find anything about it.
But what is the current state of the game with which Package will I be able to test the game out now?
I kind of can't find that anywhere when I google for it <-<
full badger
@rare folio If you are talking about the cosmetics from previous months, those are only available during the month they are featured. Once that month passes they won't be available again. Once you buy a pre-order pack you can purchase future cosmetic items as one-off purchases
@knotty quest Right now the game is in pre-alpha. Alpha 1 is due to start this year, with Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2 following (no ETA on those testing phases yet)
wind lagoon
Does anyone know if the ship skin in the newest cosmetic pack is exclusive to a package or something? Iβm a previous backer, but the standalone ship skin isnβt in my store
silk tapir
your package tier isn't high enough to buy the ship directly
full badger
@wind lagoon Which package do you have?
wind lagoon
Braver of worlds :p
full badger
Then you should have access to buy the boat. Other people have encountered similar issues
Open a ticket and the support staff should be able to help you out @wind lagoon
silk tapir
or that :3
Mod coming for the rescue
wind lagoon
Cool cool, I had submitted one about it a few days ago, was just wondering if I had missed some piece of info since support tickets are backed up
full badger
Yeah, they are very busy, but they will get back to you
knotty quest
@knotty quest Right now the game is in pre-alpha. Alpha 1 is due to start this year, with Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2 following (no ETA on those testing phases yet)
@full badger Thanks for the info! Gotta check which one I should get so I can try it out^^ Im really hyped for that game :D
narrow linden
Huh, so the pre-order packs that give you access to those test phases are linked to those monthly cosmetics as some sort of limiter?
So if I wanted, for example, to get that pyromancer cloak skin, or the fire fox mount skin from this months line-up, but I had no interest in all of of the early access stuff or the embers, then I'd just be out of luck? I can't just buy them separately?
full badger
Correct. In order to buy the cosmetics you have to first have a pre-order pack of the same or higher tier
narrow linden
Weird. Now even though I'd like to support the game development by investing in these skins, I can't, since the pre-order packages aren't something I'd personally benefit from buying due to irl reasons.
vapid mural
then dont
clear ridge
ive upgraded from last months to the $200 ones ember upgrade would i be getting boths packs upon release?
vapid mural
you get what you have purchased
you dont get stuff from before because you upgraded it now
rare folio
So one question I always have about games and such, is will there be a Faction based army with a leader and such? And if so, will you be able to acquire the military uniform they possess?
knotty quest
I think its not much faction wise but more city - city like? I might have understood that part wrong tho^^
ruby swift
There are no factions beyond the ones the players create themselves.
There are npc social organizations like the bounty hunters guild, thieves guild and others that may offer cosmetics for gaining influence with them.
inland mauve
Regarding a ticket I opened, it's nearing 4 weeks of wait now, with no feedback and it regards an account theft. I'd like to know if the ticket got lost or if it's still in queue to be processed.
spiral pine
they have a huge backlog of tickets
you could try opening a new one though just incase
inland mauve
That would be adding to the huge backlog, possibly unnecessarily. I'd rather have confirmation before that.
ruby swift
Well it is 5:30 am for them right now. Try back during regular business hours and you might get Toast to escalate for you. Nobody here can do anything for ya.
Was a holiday weekend too in the US. So they will be coming in (from home) for the first work day this week probably.
brittle marlin
Has it been officially stated whether you will eventually become unable to upgrade a kickstarter/summer package to a higher tier?
hard turtle
@still wyvern I think this is for you.
still wyvern
@brittle marlin Nope. No details yet. But we'll know in advance when that happens
brittle marlin
That was my next question yeah, presuming that you can't just upgrade those pledges forever I imagine we'll get a time limit announcement right?
Was just mostly checking that a date hadn't already been announced yet
Thanks
crystal flax
KS upgrades will probably be off closer to launch
brittle marlin
I'm only a summer backer, do Kickstarter backers still have access to the summer upgrades out of interest? Or was that only for the duration of the summer event?
ruby swift
It is a stuff rolling downhill effect. KS has access to Summer and below, Summer has access to Intrepid pack stuff. Still ongoing.
brittle marlin
Ahh so kickstarter accounts can still pick up anything from the summer packages regardless of tier?
ruby swift
Yep, someone with the lowest package can buy the racial skins for $75 if they choose. Or anything else.
brittle marlin
Cool, thanks for the answers!
south tusk
Anyone know if ashes is likely to release 2021 or is it very unlikely?
formal zinc
there is not ETA atm, but in 2021 is very very very unlikely not to say imposible
outer anchor
heh yea cuz there still needs to be 2 alphas and 2 betas
deft lark
I'd say it all depends on the 2 alphas. If the conclusion is, that there is a ton of stuff do after test, it's definitely 2022.
sleek relic
Do we know if Steven will do more AMAs in the future?
onyx knoll
They said that they might consider it since the first one was so well received, but we haven't gotten a confirmation or date for an other one
stuck dock
Will the synergistic skills all be semi Combat/utility oriented like the tank walls and siege summons or will some be direct combat such as an 8 mage AoE attack? Or to early to give an answer?
onyx knoll
Too early to say, the only ones they've mentioned so far are the tank and summoner ones π
stuck dock
Okay, thought it may be that way... Thanks!
crystal beacon
If a non-combatant ambushes a corrupted player, and the corrupted player fights back and kills the non-combatant, will they receive additional corruption?
rigid rose
Once a non combatant attacks they are no longer non combatant.. they are combatant...
so then if red player kills no.. they would not gain corruption.
grim breach
If the red dies, they don't gain additional corruption. Corruption is only when killing a green. What the red player will still receive on death are the death penalties.
fickle grotto
I think a table in the FAQ would solve this. Including what if you buff/heal a corrupted player
^Love your youtube channel btw
onyx knoll
No, they're right, you don't need to flag as a green to attack a red. Currently you can stay green and attack a red, and if the red defends himself and kills the green they would gain more corruption.
full marten
But is that war target blanket? Because that sounds like a good way for a guild of pkers to abuse the system in the open world.
Or is it just for select battle modes (like sieges or guild wars)?
onyx knoll
I'm.. not sure I understand your question
hybrid prism
I mean, a guild can declare war, but it costs resources.
Not really worth it just for world PVP on a smaller guild.
On an equally sized guild that's fair game.
hybrid prism
Plus everyone drops resources, even greens @full marten
full marten
Yes, but if they are a "war target" you don't receive the corruption penalty
hybrid prism
Yes, because you're at war
onyx knoll
War targets are basically, if you enter a war with an other guild, then both guild's members are considered combatants against each other at all time
hybrid prism
If you're in a guild, you chance PVP
oak depot
not sure why the term "War Target" is used
hybrid prism
That's not a ridiculous ask.
brisk isle
Because "Member of a guild that you're at war with" doesn't fit as well on a graph.
oak depot
just use "PvP Event" which covers "Guild Wars, Caravan PvP, Castle Sieges, Battlegrounds, Arenas, etc."
hybrid prism
Yeah. Maybe "event combatant" is a better catch all
oak depot
all of those work outside the open-world flagging system
perhaps "PvP Event Participant"
brisk isle
Because it actually doesn't. A lot of those use the flagging system. When you opt into Caravan PvP you're actually getting flagged as a combatant per the open-world PVP flagging system.
And remain so for the duration of the event
I could have sworn it did?
brisk isle
Well nevermind me, then
oak depot
@simple ether you have space on that chart (bottom middle) to enumerate the PvP events I think and could change "War Target" to "PvP Event Participant" to have more coverage of PvP stuff on your chart. Unless it makes it more confusing. I mean... the goal is to educate people
shrug
feral cedar
Just curious on what the difference would be in skills if someone was to take the same classes but in the reverse order. I.e. fighter primary then bard seconardy as oppose to bard then fighter.
desert ivy
You only get the primary archetypes skills, the secondary archetype gives no new skills
full marten
The primary's skills will be the useable ones, but they will be augmented by the secondary, which could change how the primary skills are performed.
feral cedar
ah I see, i thought each class had their skills to combine once you have your primary and secondary classes
that's interesting
desert ivy
Nope, that's basically what ArcheAge does, but not what Ashes is doing
charred timber
So if next alpha comes. Alpha 1, can content creators release more videos about aoc then?
desert ivy
Yes
charred timber
Noice
desert ivy
When Alpha 1 gets fully released there won't be an NDA so anyone can make content on it
charred timber
Thats happening this fall right
desert ivy
Should be
Unless it somehow gets delayed
But that's the current date they've given
Late fall though, so don't expect it until November/December
charred timber
Sicc
crystal beacon
What's the intention behind corrupted receiving additional corruption for self-defense against non-combatants?
Yup, I don't think anyone is disputing the PvP aspect. More so the aspect of receiving additional corruption for self-defense.
hexed minnow
if a non-combatant attacks a corrupted player they are no longer a non-combatant
lament kayak
does anyone know what story is gonna be ?
like are they gonna be hardcore with the story too
elder sky
Gonna need a wagon on my mount for all the bounties
hybrid prism
Honestly for main expansion I'm good with no overarching story other than "Different races recolonize old world."
Kinda like how Vanilla WoW's main story was "We don't like eachother" and all the content phases were specific issues that came up seperate from this core conflict.
lament kayak
well the game itself is rly good but it will be even better if they are some story events later on or something like that
hybrid prism
Yeah, of course. They have some solid foundational lore
But as for like one huge overarching main quest, I'd be just fine with them not making one for launch.
elder sky
Story us cool no reason not to throw some emotion investment in it
hybrid prism
Well would you say you had some emotional investment in Vanilla WoW?
dense bough
This has probably been asked before but does it violate the terms of service to purchase a kickstarter key or Alpha 1 key from a third party?
hybrid prism
Yes
dense bough
thanks
naive hollow
This month deal on the store for those select skins will we be able to get those again at any point?
formal zinc
No, once they are gone, gone for ever
fickle grotto
And thats why i bought them π
unreal zealot
No they are exclusive for this month maybe in future we will get colour varients in game or on the cosmetic shop
naive hollow
Argh, okay thank looks like missing out on this one
crimson turtle
What is the current testing phase the game is in ?
dry flower
Pre-Alpha
crimson turtle
TYVM
dry flower
Official first Alpha will start at the end of this year
crimson turtle
This game looks so amazing already, hope i don't forget about it down the road LUL
random trench
News regarding EU Shop?
reef osprey
@random trench no
white quail
Since the verbal NDA was lifted, do we know how many character slots there are for alpha 1?
desert ivy
No, but the verbal NDA was only lifted for the end of May/start of June PI test, any test that happened after those tests are still under both visual and verbal NDA
pale aspen
@random trench What do you mean by EU shop? Also someone here was talking about having an EU/NA account?
This is confusing me lol
reef osprey
@pale aspen some people live under the misconception that they wouldn't have to pay VAT when buying through an EU Shop, so they are holding out on buying a pack because they think they could get it cheaper through an EU Shop
unreal zealot
@pale aspen originally there was my.games eu account and the intrepid na accounts but now that my.games is out of the picture its likely there wont be a need for separate accounts anymore, VAT is added to EU pricing as part of the price thats the difference in shops it might be less it might be more wont know until we know what the conversion rate company they use will be atm it's xolla, i might be blowing smoke out ym ass but thats how i understand it anyway
pale aspen
Thanks for clarification about the my.games account, did not know that
reef osprey
VAT is always the same. It's based on your countries national VAT rate.
Netherlands Pay 21%
Austrians and French Pay 20%
Germans pay 16% (due to corona) currently 19% usually
Looking at it from a Tax view point, Digital Online purchases always take place at the location of the buyer. That's why you'll always have to pay your national VAT rate, whether you buy it from an EU Shop, NA shop, or the shop your grandmother is running through a server in her house.
Xsolla is contracted to collect this tax, relay it to the national tax agencies and deal with them. A lot of small companies would have to pay lots of money they don't have to contract a 3rd Party Tax Consultant.
if you want to learn more about it, this is a pretty good read:
http://www.oecd.org/tax/consumption/the-role-of-digital-platforms-in-the-collection-of-vat-gst-on-online-sales.pdf
bitter trench
Intresting, i ask a question the other day saying i'm from the EU where do i pre order, and they replied you can buy from intrepid or wait until they set up the EU site it will be cheaper. So it's doest matter after all whether i wait or not ?
reef osprey
the person telling you that talked out of his ass @bitter trench
nah it doesn't matter tax-wise.
It might make a difference in terms of Conversion rate, as the EUR:USD Tax is climbing quite a lot currently. That's gambling though
Just to put it into perspective though, in May you would have paid close to 10% than you do now due to currency conversion
bitter trench
ok thanks, i'm pretty sure they were saying i would get the same price as advertised but i wouldn't be paying the tax, i did think it was kinda odd.
reef osprey
nah, Tax usually isn't avoidable, at least not in a legal manner
bright dome
They use Xsolla? Good luck getting any help from them if anything goes wrong
reef osprey
apparently they wanted to change that for a while? not sure about that though
bright dome
well EFT uses xsolla and its terrible, you have to fight for refunds, hidden fees, etc
even in the case if someone was charged twice, its so bad
everyone in the community just says to charge back so they dont have to deal with them, lol
uneven valley
are island housing/plots out on the ocean gonna be a thing or is it gonna be continental only
maybe floating housing-like raft things like this
inland mauve
Hello, I was told to check this again after working hours. Regarding a ticket I opened, it's nearing 4 weeks of wait now, with no feedback and it regards an account theft. I'd like to know if the ticket got lost or if it's still in queue to be processed.
plucky pawn
@inland mauve Hi there - please go ahead and DM me your ticket number (you should have received an email confirmation with that number when you first submitted it) and we'll check if it's still in the queue! At the moment our ticket volume is a bit higher due to new folks joining us/NDAs being processed, so we appreciate your patience in the meantime π
short niche
So hoping someone here can help me with a question about preorders. If I buy the $75 dollar pack but later want to upgrade what I got is this possible? Also, if I upgrade will I be able to unlock the higher tier cosmetics for this month? Like even if its a month or two later?
desert ivy
Yes you can upgrade later for the cost difference. So if you buy the $75 now, the $375 will only be $300 later. No you can't get previous months cosmetics
short niche
Damn. Thanks @desert ivy
pine loom
whats the engine again what they will be using? unreal engine 4?
spiral pine
Yes
pine loom
will they step to the Unreal engine 5 when its coming out late 2021?
spiral pine
It depends on what kind of issues pop up hopping over to UE 5
lost turtle
Does anyone know if the Intrepid team is keeping track of the promises they've made, and ensuring that it's in the backlog? I think most MMO fans would be plenty satisfied with exactly what's been described so far, so I'm curious if there's a list of features/functionality ala No Man's Sky checklist. (tl;dr, avoiding the No Man's Sky initial launch, and skipping to the part where they fulfilled the original goals, but for AoC)
onyx knoll
No Man's Sky released without a lot of features because they were pressured to by their publisher (sony), AoC doesn't have to answer to a 3rd party so they'll be able to take their time and ensure everything they said was in the game was going to be in it. They have a pretty defined vision of what they want, it's a lot of stuff but it'll all be there ^^
stark wyvern
when is the beta planned for ?
desert ivy
When it's ready
lost turtle
I'm more just curious if there's a physical (well, digital) list of the planned features, or if it's more just in the heads of the lead designers. Something to track what's been said, because it's hard to remember that one good idea you mentioned in an interview a few years ago but forgot about...
reef osprey
an estimated 3-6 weeks before release
stark wyvern
i mean, isnt there a CBT this year ?
stark wyvern
Oh right
lost turtle
E.g. a confluence wiki of the game design theory, and explanations of the reasons behind decisions to choose certain features/not include others.
reef osprey
its in the wiki π
but i'd expect the Devs to know what they are doing and how to finish a project
lost turtle
(Obviously it would be internal only, but its existence would be important from my past experiences)
@reef osprey a public wiki isn't an internal design doc, although it is reasonable to assume they would have already thought of and implemented it. I'm just curious if that's true, or if it's not.
reef osprey
i just think its curious that people always try to tell professional devs what to do, how to do it and what they need to do or their game will fail.
lost turtle
I'm asking a question, not dictating how they do things. π
onyx knoll
They haven't shared a public roadmap is that is what you mean, but the wiki contains all the quotes and info they've shared
The fact that they're very open and public about the dev process also makes it so people will hold them accountable for things they've said would be part of the game, so while there are no official list, the unofficial one should be pretty accurate π
meager ferry
Are mounts I purchase going to be tradeable in game or account bound?
lost turtle
I guess the core question I have for someone on the team would be: Is the game design being compiled, or is it just in the heads of the team leads? Nothing more nothing less.
reef osprey
@meager ferry account bound, no p2w
meager ferry
mmm ok was wondering why it was letting me purchase multiple mounts and wanted to get one for my fiance.
reef osprey
@lost turtle isn't that the standard in project management?
also, its mount skins
not mounts
meager ferry
wait, does that mean its 1 time use?
reef osprey
nah, its just like a cosmetic costume you put on your character and unequip when you don't want to use it anymore.
Just that you play dress up with your pony instead of yourself
meager ferry
ok
lost turtle
@reef osprey There's plenty of companies that are more on the cowboy code of the spectrum, which is why I'm curious.
meager ferry
i was about to not buy that fire mount skin just now lol
reef osprey
i think your wife would like it a lot, but you'd have to buy it through her account
meager ferry
she doesn't own a kickstarter account like i do
so she'd have to buy full package and doesn't want to spend that much money on it
reef osprey
pretty much the only way to get it unfortunately
meager ferry
Speaking of... will old voyager packages come back at all?
or are they truly one and done?
lost turtle
I guess the more appropriate question for this channel, is there any information on the next Dev AMA?
reef osprey
they are exclusive, yes
they might come back in adapted version, like color, barding, fur etc. but this version is done
meager ferry
rip I really wanted that perdition mount
reef osprey
@lost turtle no information yet.
The standard is one live stream at the end of each month.
Everything else (AMAs etc) are mostly spontanous
AMAs and Interviews
lost turtle
Ah, looks like they're using Zendesk Knowledge base, which IIRC supports internal-only articles. That would be a likely candidate.
Gotcha, with those live streams are they mostly dev updates, or do they interact with chat much?
desert ivy
They don't really interact with chat much during them, but they do answer questions that are asked by the community in a thread on the forum each month
spiral pine
@meager ferry you arent buying the mounts, you are buying the skins
lost turtle
@desert ivy is there a specific thread, or is it more creating a thread in the Support & FAQ section?
desert ivy
The devs make a thread usually a week in advance where we can post questions
lost turtle
Want to make sure I check that it hasn't been asked before
desert ivy
Then they pick questions from that thread to answer
reef osprey
@lost turtle they will open one up a couple of days before the livestream in the official forums. Its hard to miss - just look into it every 2 days or so.
will literally be the most answered thread
lost turtle
reef osprey
usually remains open for 3-5 days.
One advice:
don't post too long questions, they won't read them
they also skip through you post if you ask multiple questions
lost turtle
My question is pretty succinct and I only have one, but thanks for the heads up.
i think that's all my questions, thanks!
reef osprey
no worries friend, feel free to return at any time
vivid wigeon
Are wer getting servers in south america? Would be awesomeeee
dusk nova
how is the class system set up, is it like wow where you can only have 1 main class (and then change sub classes for diff situations) or more like ffxiv where you could potentially level all classes?
onyx knoll
Currently there are no plans for south-american servers at launch, but they're considering adding them if there is enough demand
reef osprey
@dusk nova one primary archetype, that's not changeable
changing secondary archetypes is possible, but will take some time/ingame currency to do
onyx knoll
@dusk nova You pick a primary archetype at character creation, and will never be able to change that. Then at lvl 25 you'll pick your secondary and combine it to make you full class. That secondary can be changed as Wrath says, so on 1 character you basically have access to 8 classes
reef osprey
@vivid wigeon time to start a petition. Brazilian MMORPG communities are huge. Pretty sure you'd find enough to get Intrepids attention
dusk nova
Will there be limitations on the number of characters you can create per server then?
I know a lot of people on say WoW have a character for each class because they like the variety
onyx knoll
Probably, we don't know yet the exact amount of characters you'll be able to make on 1 server, they've said it'll be a "comfortable amount"
reef osprey
@dusk nova we will get a "comfortable amount" of character slots steven mentioned
so i'd guess it's at least 8+, probably more going towards the 16
dusk nova
Gotcha thanks
reef osprey
they don't sell extra character slots. So i don't see a reason why they would have to limit them either
dusk nova
yeah i was just thinking about that
in a sense i kind of like it on ffxiv because my base sub is cheaper but in another sense i could see how that could be considered a bit p2w
green totem
Any info if AoC will be on Console or cross platform eventually? I know they said PC only but that was in 2018 so wondering if that changed
formal zinc
they are oonly focusing on pc atm
brisk isle
Current plans are PC only, though they haven't fully ruled out console.
hidden urchin
Is A1 active?
onyx knoll
not yet, sometime this fall π
hidden urchin
ah gotcha
dapper loom
maybe floating housing-like raft things like this
@uneven valley being able to have your own houseboat was exactly what i was thinking about. hope to see it implemented π
dusk nova
trying to explain the preorder packs to a friend, the embers that are included, i'm a little unsure on the wording. Are embers used to purchase other cosmetic items when the game launches?
formal zinc
yes
unborn sonnet
Correct!
dusk nova
thanks
slim fulcrum
Hey guys, i am trying to register for AoC Apocalypse but it's only sending me to my profile page. Is there anything i need to do or do i have to do something different? Hope somebody can help.
lean marlin
do you have an AOC account? AKA an Intrepid account?
slim fulcrum
yes
desert ivy
Apocalypse isn't up, you can't "register" for it
slim fulcrum
oh okay. thats why
lean marlin
But you will need it when it comes back later. 
so don't forget it.
desert ivy
If it comes back
slim fulcrum
sure. so am i now registered since i clicked on register and it got me into my intrepid profile?
desert ivy
Yep. You only need an account to play Apoc since it's available for everyone
slim fulcrum
so it might not come back? i've read something about it will being permantent along side the actual AoC
lean marlin
It's supposed to come back during/after A1 to test out a couple more things. We're still waiting to see if that's true.
formal zinc
there is no guarantee but it can be. its good for them for testing
desert ivy
That's the last we heard about Apoc.
onyx knoll
Alpha 2 will become the PTR and be permanant alongside the MMO, not APOC
desert ivy
"additional testing phases" probably means the CS and Horde Mode
lean marlin
^
slim fulcrum
I see. Thank you guys.
dusk nova
Theyβve said a bunch of times and even in that hybrid combat video that most of the animations are place holders or are first pass
ripe lark
Will we be able to mix reptilian and mammalian features with the Tulnir like scaled bodies with bull horns and hooves? I know it's still early, I just haven't seen any hard examples of mixing different features. I think it would be cool to have a more monstrous race.
arctic sky
We have little to no information that can help answer that question
digital yacht
Will we be able to mix reptilian and mammalian features with the Tulnir like scaled bodies with bull horns and hooves? I know it's still early, I just haven't seen any hard examples of mixing different features. I think it would be cool to have a more monstrous race.
@ripe lark nothing has been given on tulnar
All we know https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tulnar
charred orchid
Can this game run effectively on a MacBook Air 13
modern whale
Bruh
charred orchid
I guess thatβs a no lol
desert ivy
Looking at these specs I'm gonna hit you with a big old fuck no
dusk nova
but its turbo boosted 
cedar abyss
Is there a way to upgrade your pre-order or do you have to buy the whole pack?
spiral pine
i dont think AoC is even gonna be on mac in the first place
stray minnow
this probably been asked a billion time but couldnt find answer anywhere in faq. but when is the estimated date for launch?
arctic sky
@cedar abyss you can upgrade in the shop once you log in
@stray minnow no dates are given until they are 100% going to make them.
arctic sky
^community consensus
stray minnow
ah ok. fair enough. ill be old and decrepit by then
sleek relic
macbook ew
quick dust
Mac=bad for games
cedar abyss
does it just apply when you buy a higher pack? Because I have the expeditionary and I would like to upgrade to voyager but when I checkout it's still the original price
spiral pine
did you buy a pack this month?
sleek relic
@quick dust mac=not for games
cedar abyss
no I think it was 2 months ago
quick dust
Hmm interesting when i bought the second most expensive it made the most expensive go to 125$
arctic sky
is it in you inventory and are you signed in?
arctic sky
i mean is the pack you bought in your account inv
spiral pine
375 or something
dapper chasm
how do u not know, what u paid? π€
trail musk
hello there, i've seen the alpha one clients would be release on fall (soon so). Did they have given an hint or a date for alpha 2 ?
valid swift
nope, best people can give is estimates
formal zinc
Nop. will depend on how goes alpha 1
trail musk
ok thanks
valid swift
no clue so far
sinful bronze
LotRO, the combo play minstrels had to do
misty crane
Will there be multiple Alpha/Beta servers per region, or one for each?
desert ivy
Alpha regions for EU and NA. Beta will probably be when OCE get their server
There will be more than 1 server per region yes
during alpha
misty crane
Okay thanks βΊ do we know if they'll release a list of server names early so we can plan with friends/guilds what to join?
desert ivy
The launch servers will be released early yes since people will need to reserve their names for those servers
we dont know when
originally it was meant to be during a1 but don't know if that will happen now
misty crane
Ah okay. I forgot about the name reservations π Thank you βΊ
oak knot
I wasn't aware there was one.
valid swift
thats news to me
formal zinc
there was nothing today
the lastes devs update was on august. You can find it on their youtube channel
hah its ok np mate
hidden urchin
Are economic nodes doomed to be ruled by guilds that can donate the largest amount of capital to their guild leader?
ruby swift
Only if Intrepid ratifies the Verran United decision regarding donations to political guilds. Then they will be able donate as much as they want.
valid swift
just like real life
cerulean surge
Are races going to unique skill or weaknesses?
valid swift
we dont know what they are but yes most likely
cerulean surge
Yeah ok guess stay tuned then lol
silver mulch
@hidden urchin I think it's just assumed an economic city will be ruled by a 300 member guild
I don't like it, but I've accepted it and will leave the city if said ruler rules poorly
hidden urchin
I think the same can be assumed for all nodes
Perhaps the only exception would be a military node?
But then you would assume that the larger guilds would have cleared more content and gotten more gear. Gear enough to win a military node?
valid swift
organised guilds will dominate a lot of things so if you cant beat them join em
silk fractal
@arctic sky did you tag me here?
fringe radish
Intrepid just responded to my ticket to delete my account so I could update my referral! They said my account was deleted, so I clicked my friend's referral code to sign up again, but during signup it gave me an error. I waited about half an hour, then tried to sign up again and it told me my email/username were taken... So I logged in using the new password I'd put in when I received the error and it worked. However, my friend's referral page is still showing: total referrals 0 - will it not show anything until I make a purchase or did something go wrong?
unreal zealot
it takes a while i found to reuse an old email/username so it might take a while for your friends code to work to. leave it a day or so and look again maybe
fringe radish
Interesting! I hope it worked and didn't just somehow reactivate my old account. π But my friend's account should show that he has one referral, even without me making any purchases, right?
unreal zealot
yes
fringe radish
Alright, thanks! We'll wait a bit and see if it updates.
unreal zealot
if it doesn't work i would recommend using a different email and make a new account its what i had to do in the end to use a friends refferal and the nswitch the email back to the old one after a few days of deleting the old account/email
fringe radish
Well, the problem is I want my username π
And I just waited like 5 weeks to have my account deleted and recreated so I could get it again... 
unreal zealot
fair enough but your account name doesnt really matter that much as it wont be used ingame
you have a chance of someone else using your name on the same server u pick
plush matrix
forgive me for not knowing, but i tried looking in the wiki and website,
what state is the game right now? Alpha01? I'm really interested in ditching downloading random mmo's and playing ESO religiously and make the grand switch to something this promising.
if the answer was already there and i missed it then I am sorry!
fringe radish
Yeah, it was just one of those things though... My username is taken sometimes so I really wanted the chance to have it early β€οΈ
unreal zealot
@plush matrix we are pre alpha 1 atm the full alpha 1 comes out late fall probably by the end of this year tho