@rugged bison there is body collision and u can block enemy projectiles with ur body going after someone else but i dont think an ally can block ur attack spell against an enemy
#questions
digital yacht
stable plover
@rugged bison Yes, some exceptions to player collision apply in particular skills designed to pierce through multiple targets or aoe
rugged bison
so if I'm an archer or a mage and I'm trying to tag a mob and my party members are melee, will i be able to tag the mob through them or have to try to maneuver around them?
fair yew
I think it depends on if your doing action or tab target and if it’s a skill or weapon attack
So far in testing I have not had any issue hitting enemies with allies around
rugged bison
oh ok neat
stable plover
Notably friendly fire isn't intended
rugged bison
I was just curious because this seems to be a big issue with a certain beta test recently released to trying to tag mobs and such
so thank you very much for your help everyone
fair yew
Yea no similar experience from that game so far
rugged bison
awesome, very excited 😄
charred timber
are the outfits from the pre-order pack class bound? f.e. only mages can wear the outfit?
fair yew
No all classes can wear them
pulsar ore
I was gonna go back and do a dif preorder for the fox then saw the 150+$ price tag
My wallet isnt that healthy
charred timber
so only the building cosmetics are building specific
crystal beacon
Wait so how much is the heat and harmony pack?
Hello guys.I don't want to be that guy but.Any info how EU will handle the packs?We are kind of screwed at the time
fair yew
Correct if it’s a blacksmith building cosmetic it would only apply there
The preorder packs are the same price each month currently
digital yacht
@crystal beacon Intrepid will be pushing the EU store out, if u really want the pack u should be able to buy them on NA and transfer to EU when they complete it
stable plover
If you wanted to upgrade a tier you do so by paying the difference
fair yew
If you already have preordered previously you can buy individual items for 5-25$
crystal beacon
The tax is 80£,tha's why i am saying we are screwed
dapper chasm
we rnt screwed...Americans do the tax later...16%... so same price for Eu in the end because we would have to pay the taxes here aswell
charred timber
but there is no way to know which building ur buying so that kinda sucks
brittle burrow
oh so we can't buy it from EU yet? or we can but not sure if it transfers over to the EU account?
digital yacht
@brittle burrow if u buy on NA id assume u can transfer it to EU when they implement that ability
fair yew
You can transfer to eu later but eu will have a store built and they are planning to allow for those that were on my.com to be able to buy cosmetics that were missed
brittle burrow
ok, cause l dont wanna waste all the money if l wouldn't be able to use it
ancient pivot
Hi! Its about pre-order packs. Can aditionnal skins be purchased with any starting pre-order pack? Thank you!
(or is that feature only available for certain packs)
brittle burrow
so l can safely buy a pack now on their store and will have it later, then that's ok
digital yacht
@ancient pivot after buying a pack u can only buy the cosmetic type associated with that pack
dapper chasm
if u buy the 75 package u r just allowed to buy future accessories...no mounts,pets,costumes etc if u dont upgrade to the needed pack
if u buy the max pack u r able to buy everything in future
ancient pivot
nvm got my answer sry
And then also, does any1 know of a date where Alpha 2 packs wont be available? WIll they announce beforehand?
stable plover
@icy burrow The games not designed around supporting controller, but will probably get some basic support near launch
crystal beacon
Dont they intend on having somewhere around 30 binds?
gentle smelt
Will cosmetic be tradeable or bind on account ?
junior pagoda
how are ship skins and house skins obtained in game?
shut lantern
can we just buy the mount skin? cause i only want the mount and 375 is too much for me
250*
vale basin
Another question, to those who have had access to the game already. Can US accounts get access to EU servers?
maiden current
what race is the heat of hegemony clothing cosmetics for? or can they be used on all races?
crystal beacon
All races
maiden current
the the art being of a single race is just an artistic choice?
is there anywhere we can check to see what all the prior pre order bonus cosmetics are? (to see if an enjoyed theme has already passed or not)
ruby swift
is there anywhere we can check to see what all the prior pre order bonus cosmetics are? (to see if an enjoyed theme has already passed or not)
@maiden current The wiki has them
maiden current
ty
cyan compass
Is it possible to buy the skins without the packages? (beta and alpha access and months of play)
proven crystal
Will there be dyes? If so will they work on the skins? And no @cyan compass no separate packs
mint elm
Don't think there are packs for that, no
cyan compass
Wow ok
onyx knoll
@cyan compass You can if you've already purchased a full pack, then you'll get the option to buy skins individually as they're released (of the same tier you purchased the pack of)
But you need to buy the full thing once
cyan compass
I bought the 250$ package, how do I buy the skins now?
crystal beacon
Which tier is the new pack?
onyx knoll
The packs are rotating tomorrow
formal zinc
what package you bought?
onyx knoll
if you bought the 250$ pack this month then you won't see the new options until tomorrow
crystal beacon
So if I get the 250 pack, I can buy the crispy boy cosmetics?
onyx knoll
If you wait until tomorrow and buy the 250$ pack, it'll include the accessory, pet and mount
ruby swift
@crystal beacon This image might help
desert ivy
Literally just got posted 
onyx knoll
I just linked that 🤣
valid tulip
Why are the developers dropping so many store cosmetics and the game isn't even finished yet? Isn't that a bad idea or do they need money?
ruby swift
Didnt scroll up. Help is help.
desert ivy
I mean they've been dropping cosmetics for 3 years, not exactly a new thing
crystal beacon
I saw it unknown and it didnt help me so
onyx knoll
@valid tulip Most of those are assets they need to model for in-game (npc etc) anyway, they're adding little extra things to them to make them special but it isn't wasted effort
valid tulip
I hope so
desert ivy
No harm in making more money
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon The 250$ pack do not include the costumes, ship and freehold skins
formal zinc
and if you buy the 250 for example, to upgrade to the 375 do I need to pay the 375 or the difference bewteen those packages?
digital yacht
Different @formal zinc
crystal beacon
Oh
formal zinc
ok ty
digital yacht
Difference*
formal zinc
yeah thats good
ancient pivot
Has any1 ever compiled all the previous monthly packs? 😄
onyx knoll
You can see all the cosmetics that were previously available here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs (scroll down a bit)
ancient pivot
You can see all the cosmetics that were previously available here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs (scroll down a bit)
@onyx knoll yea I know, I linked that haha! But i wanted the full packs together 😮
steady ocean
If you dig around on the wiki you can find them all
desert ivy
Just look at this then https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Voyager_plus_pre-order_pack
ancient pivot
Just look at this then https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Voyager_plus_pre-order_pack
@desert ivy THANK YOU
mint elm
that deer though 
proven crystal
Will dyes work on skins if there are dyes?
fair yew
There are dyes unknown if they work on cosmetics
maiden current
i know steve has a thing for fully armored aesthetics, but has there been any hint at more visually alluring/revealing cosmetic armor skins?
fair yew
Doubtful
desert ivy
He's never been a fan of those kind of cosmetics, so yeah, doubtful
maiden current
Well, they came out with the Garb of the Silent Hurricane, which is fairly revealing
Sad I missed that one
desert ivy
I mean, if that's what you class as alluring or revealing then yeah you can expect more of that. Just not bikini armour and shit
maiden current
oh awesome
just a waiting game to see when something like that gets put onto the preorder shop, then? or is there a list somewhere where the next few months are already revealed?
desert ivy
Nope, they only officially get revealed a few days before they get released
Just gotta wait
north breach
if you buy the $75 package one month and upgrade to a more expensive one later, do you get the higher tier cosmetics from the month you originally bought or the current one
desert ivy
Current
formal zinc
i guess not
desert ivy
So if you buy a $75 pack and get an accessory, you then upgrade to the $375 pack you'll get everything except the accessory in the $375 pack
bitter adder
Any news on when EU store will be open yet? Sorry if this gets asked a lot..
desert ivy
Not yet
digital yacht
@fair yew i yhink Steven said some will be dye able
bitter adder
Okay ty, will check back some other time ^_^
ruby swift
@fair yew i yhink Steven said some will be dye able
@digital yacht Dyes only affect tagged portions of armor or cosmetic items.[6]
The dyeability of costumes depends on the specific costume.
pure bay
Does anyone know if cosmetic armor appearance is bound to a certain piece of gear, or if it's bound to the slot itself?
ruby swift
Ummm...I didn't answer cause I am not sure how they plan to implement the paperdoll system for cosmetics.
pure bay
@ruby swift What do you mean"paperdoll"?
ruby swift
They have mentioned that there will be a "paperdoll" system for cosmetics and costumes. That is all I got, so like I said, unsure.
pure bay
Thanks for the answer 🙂 @ruby swift @digital yacht
@fair yew That's a relief -- excellent!
formal zinc
is there any clue if there is gonna be a spanish discord channel here?
balmy mortar
That’d be cool
formal zinc
hope one day
errant kayak
Can someone with a decent understanding of how the pre-release versions and the current cosmetic system work hit me up via dm pls. (I am probably about to spend a whole lot of money and I want to know what for) :P
PS: I feel like asking these questions here is kind of too much
final oxide
Will there be any way to customize color of items?
steady ocean
@errant kayak I can join a voice chat and explain it if you want
not until tomorrow @lofty stirrup
desert ivy
Tomorrow 11am PST
south brook
Few questions about religions
Will there be a ranking leaderboard system within the religion?
Can other players see the religion you choose?
When choosing a religion will it affect the world if enough people are under it? Or does just effect your gameplay?
obsidian elk
I'm confused about the monthly cosmetic items. When I look in the shop, I only see the belt and the frog pet skin. Nothing else is available to purchase. Is that based on pledge level?
desert ivy
@south brook There will be ranks within religions, a person can become a leader of the religion for example (like the Pope) for a certain amount of time
I'd assume so, yes since you can earn titles through the religions
Not entirely sure on it affecting the world, don't think we've heard anything like that but maybe someone else knows a niche quote from Steven
steady ocean
Those are the cosmetics you can buy individually, which is based on the package you bought. @obsidian elk
steady ocean
If you decide to upgrade your pack, you can buy future individual cosmetics at the higher tiers in the future
craggy tinsel
Can you upgrade a Pre-Order Pack ?
steady ocean
Yes, for the difference in price between the two.
craggy tinsel
aha thanks
untold aurora
am I correct in thinking these flame skins are cosmetics for a game that is more than a year away from release?
steady ocean
Yep
merry frigate
yo if i already have the Voyager pass from this pre order pack how much would it be for that new pack coming? that one looks sick!
earnest copper
Is is possible to get past cosmetics?
steady ocean
No @earnest copper
earnest copper
dang
steady ocean
@merry frigate If you have the voyager pass, you would pay an individual price ranging from $5-$25. Can check this out for an example
fading valley
yeah i really wanted the otter cosmetic
steady ocean
Anything in the voyager plus pack you would need to upgrade your pack to that to get.
fading valley
I wish i had more expendable money. these cosmetics are so sick
west turtle
What was the deal about being able to buy cosmetics from the same level of your current pack? Will this be possible?
steady ocean
It is possible right now, and has always been since they started doing the pre-orders.
west turtle
pog
tepid harbor
Can a lower tier pack later buy the cosmetics from a higher tier ?
steady ocean
Only if you upgrade your package to that tier
Once you buy the pack, you are able to buy future cosmetics at the individual cosmetic price. But you first have to buy the higher tier pack
tepid harbor
so voyager can't get freehold skins correct ?
steady ocean
Right, you would need voyager plus
tepid harbor
gotcha, thanks
How does upgrading your pack work exactly ? Do you gain the skins of your oiginal pack or the new ones ?
nice, thanks
drowsy plover
Hi I’m new here, just trying to get my head around these packs.
As I understand it so far, the Pass is what gets you access to the equivalent Packs, which contain individually purchasable items, every month?
So the Pass itself won’t give you any items.
plucky pawn
We've got a helpful knowledge base article here that covers that in more detail as well: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026015874-What-is-included-with-my-Pre-Order-package-
long vessel
Is there any point to having more than one person using your referral code? Does it stack?
desert ivy
Yes
crystal beacon
Q1: so if i buy the Expeditionary pack today, I can buy just the Embered Kit alone months later since its the same tier? Or is it gone after october 7?
Q2: In AoC, how long do pets live for (not tames)?
Q3: If I buy the wayfarer pack today, can I purchase an individual item from a higher tier pack later?
desert ivy
So if you get 7 referred people for example that all pay a sub fee, you can sub for free
drowsy plover
@drowsy plover Pass = Monthly subscrpiton
@simple ether ohhh you can already sub to the game? Missed this detail 🤔
desert ivy
@crystal beacon No. Once it's gone it's gone.
Cosmetic pets don't die. Combat pets die in combat but can be revived.
Only if you upgrade your pack to the matching tier. So you can only buy the costumes for example if you buy the voyager plus pack
ruby swift
@drowsy plover You get credit towards live launch sub. There is no subtime used during testing.
crystal beacon
thanks (: @desert ivy
drowsy plover
@drowsy plover You get credit towards live launch sub. There is no subtime used during testing.
@ruby swift right right, thanks
silver mulch
pseudo scarab
in the august recap email, "If you own a previous month's package or are a Kickstarter or summer backer, you are able to add the cosmetics found in our monthly pre-order packages as addons." What does "addon" mean?
tepid harbor
to add to it
proven crystal
Cosmetics
pseudo scarab
like the pieces within or the packs without the alpha/beta/account unlocks?
proven crystal
Yes
pseudo scarab
the latter i assume?
tepid harbor
only cosmetics I think
crisp holly
This is the cost of the cosmetics once you have a pack
plucky pawn
the cosmetic items are what's counted as "add-ons" - those are what are available separately each month 
crisp holly
Thank you oh wonderful Toast! 🙂
pseudo scarab
oh perfect picture!, thanks so much
so the cost of all cosmetics bundled (only cosmetics not the alphabeta access etc.) is around 115?
formal zinc
yep
pseudo scarab
ty!
keen flower
I know you guys have been debating this above but I just need some clarity on some points please.
The heat and Harmony pack looks amazing, and I'm seriously tempted to go voyager plus,
- Do I get all of it for the price? I assume yes.
- Are any further purchases required? I am guessing this only applies if I wish to add other cosmetics from the months I didn't buy the pack in.
formal zinc
there are no more purchases required
worldly zodiac
It's just concept art
keen flower
Yeah I know it concept art at this stage, but damn it looks good
formal zinc
if you buy that one, down the road you will able to buy cosmetics separated
keen flower
Yeah I think I got the gist of it, thanks
plucky pawn
@keen flower the article we linked in the news post clarifies what comes with each package!
keen flower
Yeah I didnt take a look at that, thanks for linking it
plucky pawn
and yup, your only additional cost in the future if you went with the highest-level package available right now would be if you wanted to grab future cosmetics on an individual basis
keen flower
with those pack you get access to the alpha and betas, will pack cosmetics be in at that stage for is it more likely to be for release?
crystal beacon
will the cosmetic's become available again at some point? im looking back at some of the previous months and I would really like the Unseen Shade caravan!
civic obsidian
Nop the preorder cosmetics are only available during that month
cosmic steppe
when will the beta testing start?
desert ivy
When it's ready
cosmic steppe
no sh*t
desert ivy
Get a time machine and let us know
cosmic steppe
any idea as to when that will be? not until 2021?
crystal beacon
so the Unseen Shade cosmetics will never be obtainable again?
crystal beacon
well thats depressing.
hexed stratus
yea its rather unfortunate they cycle them every month
i wish they would just add it all to the store
daring geyser
Hey this has probably been answered but are the cosmetic skins coming out on the store locked forever once their time is up?
hexed stratus
pretty sure they are
formal zinc
yes
desert ivy
It actually got answered 4 posts above yours
daring geyser
Oh...sorry lol
formal zinc
its ok man haha
hexed stratus
Bovi
<3
untold aurora
so the preorder cosmetics change every so often, for a game that has no release ETA, and there is also no transparency about what future cosmetics are so that if someone did opt, they can wait for their favorite?
that's all sorta shady. for a game that isnt coming out for at minimum 2years or maybe never at this rate?
is it being funded by the preorders cuz I cant see any other reason to be doing them at all
unreal zealot
al lthe cosmetics are things in their pipeline that will be in games mobs and asets so it works out just fine
and steven is funding the game himself
unreal zealot
the preorders are just there for people who want the extras
untold aurora
in 2 years. who even knows if people now will be interested in 2years
formal zinc
you can sit back and watch
untold aurora
the fact that they exist at all is shady
unreal zealot
people who invest in the pre orders do so because they believe in the end product
untold aurora
things no one can get later,you can only get them NOW, when there isnt even a release ETA
unreal zealot
if thats how you feel then just leave it and come back in two years
untold aurora
that's shady. 6 months when a release has been set, sure. but YEARS?
you're missing the point entirely
unreal zealot
this should continue in #aoc-discussion since thats what it;s turned into im sure the people will love to debate in there
formal zinc
true
autumn sapphire
doesn't seem shady to me tbh, also you get access to the alphas and betas that start THIS fall if you get the 375 pack
unreal zealot
you dont get access to alpha 1 this fall you get alpha 2 access next year
formal zinc
you cant
unreal zealot
some time next year probably q3 or q4
autumn sapphire
ok
unreal zealot
if they find massive bugs that take months to fix etc etc
autumn sapphire
ah i see
unreal zealot
if a system isnt working well and they need to rethink it's design
formal zinc
basically is a test
desert ivy
They also need to actually create the content that will be in Alpha 2 before they're able to release alpha 2
slow willow
Question for the shop: If you already have a pack you can buy the cosmetics individually, right? Cause I only want the mount personally.
full badger
@slow willow You can buy individual cosmetics that are in the same tier as the package you bought. So if your original package contained the mount skin, you will be able to buy the future month's mount skins
slow willow
Nice.
charred gust
As per Kickstarter, I should be receiving an invite to the Closed Alpha. When is that going down?
charred gust
Founder?
desert ivy
Then you'll be getting into Alpha 2 which we don't have a date for yet
Alpha 1 is scheduled for "late fall" this year
nocturne tide
full badger
quarter 3 and quarter 4
unreal zealot
bussiness years are split into 4 quarters
full badger
They are financial terms for times of the year
formal zinc
q3 is basically summer and q4 end of the year
crystal beacon
For mages, will they have all four elements(or more) to choose from in the skill tree? (Can they master only AIR skills, FIRE skills, ICE, Water, Earth, "AVATAR")?
full badger
@crystal beacon We don't know right now, sorry
full badger
Not that I'm away of, no
crystal beacon
😦
desert ivy
If you're asking if skins can be earned in game, then yes.
If you're asking if they can be looted off other players, then no.
crystal beacon
the first one I meant
crystal beacon
oke great
full badger
Ah, my misunderstanding, sorry
crystal beacon
np my english isn't great too 😄
light scroll
Hello guys! quick question: I see that cosmetics are promoted, but the game is not launched yet, does that mean that you buy cosmetics now to be able to use them at release?
full badger
@light scroll correct. All the cosmetics you buy will be given to you when the game launches
low tartan
i would suggest you guys to take a look at your twitter. Can you?
light scroll
Uhm, what about if I don't have a pack right now but later I buy it and I want to buy a cosmetic that was previously sold,..will I be able to get it or not?
I don't know if you said that because of me, but if so...the section is actually called questions, if some members are bothered by probably repeat questions, I think you should simply ignore what's being asked, shouldn't you? at the end somebody willing will respond and if nobody does it then people thathave question will eventually get the information they look for elsewhere, no need to say something like that.
full badger
@light scroll you cannot buy cosmetics from previous months, sorry
shell fox
Do people think a 2070 8gb will be able to hit 4k 60fps on max settings?
light scroll
Thanks, have a good evening everyone.
desert ivy
@shell fox We won't know until Intrepid releases their final graphic recommendations.
All we know currently are the alpha requirements and that they've said they want the game to run on hardware that was released 5 years before the game launches
shell fox
Mmm, Steven has also said that the system requirements will be similar to most games running ue4. So I'm just looking for an educated guess since I'm not sure what cards can hit that on other games.
ancient wind
So when the game releases in 2030 you better have a new rig prepared!
fringe radish
I could have sworn I saw somewhere that the gift statue was going to end in early September, but when I looked back through the website I couldn't find anything. Did they change/remove the dates?
fringe radish
TY, do you have a link to the page where they share the date? Since I couldn't find it haha.
vapid fractal
Dude that’s lit I thought I missed the deadline
crystal beacon
say i leave my citizen node and go out exploring, gathering materials and killing mobs in another / opposing enemy's node. does the node xp i gain trail back to my node or does it contribute to the node im currently in, the enemy node? I've been looking for an answer online but have yet to find this topic
glacial dagger
hi, new here, iv'e looked at faq and website, is the only to play aoc pre launch through the purchase packages?
glacial dagger
B2P?
digital yacht
Buy2Play
digital yacht
When A2 starts if u have bought access the server should be poersistent so u can play whenver u want
@glacial dagger no dates willbe given all we know is Alpha 1 starts Fall 2020
so within the next few monts
and there will be no NDA so u can watch ppl strteam soon
glacial dagger
ya was thinking of streaming it
digital yacht
do u have Alpha 1?
ornate imp
Has it been asked? Can you apply gear/equipment skins to racial skins?
ornate imp
Yes
crystal beacon
so people are confined to their node if they want to advance it?
digital yacht
@crystal beacon well yes u need to contribute in that nodes ZOi to advance that node
crystal beacon
ok
digital yacht
ZOIs are pretty big
u wont run 3 minutes to the south and be in another node
so u have a pretty large range
crystal beacon
awesome sounds good
glacial walrus
so people are confined to their node if they want to advance it?
@crystal beacon yea if you want to stick to your node cuz you like it and want to stay there, however there’s nothing keeping you there. you can relocate
although if you have property there, that’s a different story and i don’t think we have info on that yet
flat hearth
Interesting. I have been debating. The prices just dont make sense to me. One package values the Alpha, Beta 1 and Beta 2 at $160 and another package values it at $60... Just kinda confused.
ruby swift
Alpha 1 isnt under NDA?
@flat hearth Correct, but the ramp up testing to A1 release is under NDA.
spiral fiber
me personally am not buying a 160 pack for alpha access to each their own tho
ruby swift
You mean the 250 and 375?
flat hearth
Yeah, break the packages down. The valuations are all diferent
spiral fiber
im not buying any of those lol im not made of money like that
flat hearth
Take out the in game time and embers @ruby swift
Makes it hard to understand which is best for us.
ruby swift
But did you add in stuff like name reservation and access to other tiers of cosmetics. Curious, never bothered to break it down.
ruby swift
So since you don't see the value, the value isn't there. Got it.
flat hearth
Wait, no... I'm saying, the concept of a product doesn't create a value for a price for me....
$x in game time is a product. A skin that hasn't been displayed is not. That is what i mean.
spiral fiber
@flat hearth i would just wait the game could be several years out
flat hearth
If it is streamable, I am a lot more interested. The $150 bundle makes most sense for me since the Beta 1 and Beta 2 will be only $60
spiral fiber
those betas could be faaaaaaarrr out
ruby swift
flat hearth
I'm aware. I'm not pulling the trigger. Just gauging you guys
spiral fiber
@ruby swift launching until its ready is good to a point
flat hearth
I'm assuming the "in game time" doesn't start until release so getting into a beta where the servers do not go down would be good (If I understand you guys)
spiral fiber
u talking about the sub time?
ruby swift
Correct. Game time is for live launch.
spiral fiber
well if your interested now would be the time actually because when the game gets closer to beta i imagine the packs with the beta access in it will become more expensive or not offered
glacial walrus
i was fortunate enough to back the beta 1 during the kickstarter for $85
thank the goddesses
flat hearth
I think so too. The packages just confuse me on price. $150 is a lot to some.
spiral fiber
i just heard of this game recently im tooo late
meager yarrow
are the cosmetics they are selling every month creatures and stuff you can get naturally in the game?
flat hearth
Especially with the new Wow expac coming too
spiral fiber
@flat hearth i mean to most it is, it just depends how much faith u have in this game
ruby swift
All good. But this has started to delve into discussion rather than questions. Please try to focus that there.
are the cosmetics they are selling every month creatures and stuff you can get naturally in the game?
@meager yarrow Yes, but you wont be able to get those exact iterations in game.
meager yarrow
@meager yarrow Yes, but you wont be able to get those exact iterations in game.
@ruby swift ok cuz most of the stuff they are selling seems like they are just offering cosmetic skins for things that seem like they are just content
like the pollywag pet for example. they say its a very common animal to fine in the islander dwarves villages
find*
grim breach
They are selling skins. You have to obtain those pets and mounts first in game to be able to use them.
ruby swift
In many cases I would agree. But take the freehold skins for example. Those buildings will have a default appearance. The only way currently know to change them is through skins, either earned in game or bought. Same with ships, many of those ship skins may be one offs to appearance.
inner wren
I was looking in the game shop and none of the packs give access to Alpha 1. Is it no longer possible to get access since the kickstarter has passed?
meager yarrow
They are selling skins. You have to obtain those pets and mounts first in game to be able to use them.
@grim breach are you saying i can do a mount skin on any mount or i can only do horse skins on horses ect
leaden summit
This is the time i wish i had money 😂
glacial walrus
correct @inner wren
flat hearth
When is Alpha 1?
ruby swift
A1 sales were stopped in Intrepid packages in Aug 2018 when they hit their target goal of 10k testers
spiral fiber
late this year
ruby swift
They may open it later if they need.
meager yarrow
I was looking in the game shop and none of the packs give access to Alpha 1. Is it no longer possible to get access since the kickstarter has passed?
@inner wren they closed alpha one sales in 2018
inner wren
rip, i only found out about the game this week
flat hearth
almost 3 years just to get into alpha 1?
meager yarrow
reached their goal of 10000
tepid harbor
correct @inner wren
@glacial walrus wait, I thought I just need to get any old horse to ride my snorse ?
spiral fiber
just hope that alpha one goes very well and alpha 2 can happen sooner rather then later
meager yarrow
@glacial walrus wait, I thought I just need to get any old horse to ride my snorse ?
@tepid harbor same
ruby swift
@grim breach are you saying i can do a mount skin on any mount or i can only do horse skins on horses ect
@meager yarrow Mounts have tiers and types. You can skin anything with a matching tier and type. For example, you cannot put a horse skin on an aquatic mount.
glacial walrus
eh? i was talkin about A1 availability
tepid harbor
@tepid harbor same
@meager yarrow they are the same or you did the same ?
spiral fiber
ive seen people say the game will come out in 2021 in a perfect world that would be great lol
tepid harbor
eh? i was talkin about A1 availability
@glacial walrus sorry, missclick
ruby swift
eh? i was talkin about A1 availability
@glacial walrus Probably a mistag. A1 is not possible currently, but may be later.
meager yarrow
@meager yarrow they are the same or you did the same ?
@tepid harbor i was trying to quote the other guy. sorry messed up
tepid harbor
@tepid harbor i was trying to quote the other guy. sorry messed up
@meager yarrow lol I did the same
spiral fiber
if we all pray the game will come 2021, please huddle around
inner wren
Can someone give me a quote on how much the monthly shop items cost? for example the boons items for august
meager yarrow
if we all pray the game will come 2021, please huddle around
@spiral fiber id say thats only if everything went perfectly. 2022 is more realistic
spiral fiber
@meager yarrow ha, i know i think mid 2022 is realistic, Alpha one this fall, Alpha 2 mid 2021, beta 1 early 2022 and beta 2 right before release whenever that it
i think thats a decent bet
inner wren
@ruby swift thanks
one last question, what if the name i want to reserve is already taken by a kickstarter backer?
ruby swift
Choose another name.
inner wren
inner wren
sad days
spiral fiber
i mean what would your name be
inner wren
Monkey
inner wren
common id think
spiral fiber
u might be fucked lmao
inner wren
gg
spiral fiber
i imagine someone would take monkeyu
meager yarrow
i got name res and im going to try simple names but i prolly wont get them
desert ivy
I mean you reserve your name based on the server you choose. I'd say it's unlikely that someone would pick that on the specific server you want to be on
inner wren
they will have multiple servers on release?
desert ivy
Sure someone might reserve "Monkey", but probably not on the specific server you choose
ruby swift
Yes
desert ivy
Yes lmao
spiral fiber
of course
inner wren
ahh
inner wren
my chances have improved i see
ruby swift
They will make a determination as to what they believe is a correct amount of launch servers, location and region. Once they have that list, there will be a period of name and guild reservation before launch.
spiral fiber
i would bet that the number of people trying to play will beat their determination
desert ivy
Of course
spiral fiber
because if this game delivers it will be huge
ruby swift
Current server pops are 8-10k concurrent and 50k registered. So it is 50k, not 10.
desert ivy
I don't know a single MMORPG at launch that got the estimation of players to server ratio correct
spiral fiber
i just hope its good i never really have grinded a mmo
i was late to wow and not rly interested at this point
ruby swift
I also believe that to be off, but not the answer. I am just giving what the latest info from them is.
glacial walrus
alright so i have a concern, and maybe it can become a question... but considering all these guilds that are forming / have formed with players that have been playing mmos for years together... how can players that have been away from mmos for a while or new solo players compete with these massive waves of players with a shared goal/guild, in regards to node development etc?
tepid harbor
become a citizen in their town
ruby swift
Hmmm...more of an opinion discussion than a hard answer question. Might want to make a forum post on it.
full badger
Question moved to #aoc-discussion
ornate imp
Guess my question should have been if equipment skins can be applied to racial/costume skins.
Most skins have concept armor.
Can it be swapped with cosmetics
desert ivy
You will be able to wear armour over racial skins
ornate imp
So my Demon skin with them flame boots for example
ruby swift
Costumes no. Racial skins are a separate tab on the "paperdoll" there is a great quote out there from Steven explaining it that you could indeed have a angel skin wearing a Santa costume.
So my Demon skin with them flame boots for example
@ornate imp Yes, can be done.
ornate imp
K ty
ruby swift
@ornate imp This might help https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Racial_skins
ornate imp
Thanks Unknown
crystal beacon
beta this year or nah
rigid rose
Beta no.. A1 is slated for this fall.
uncut perch
Does anyone have info/a link in regards to choosing to just play a crafting/gatheting class how does it work solo wise?
pseudo scarab
if I were to buy the wayfarer pre-order, does that allow me to buy singular items from future packs still?
desert ivy
You can buy the accessory from future packs, but the wayfarer is the 75$ pack so you won't be able to buy mounts, costumes, freeholds, ships, caravans, or pets
Only the 5$ accessories
pseudo scarab
so in order to be able to buy a singular mount for 20 for example, id have to pay a minimum of 250
but if its for a freehold/caravan/costume , id have to pay the minimum of 375?
desert ivy
Yes
pseudo scarab
mmkay ty!
arctic sky
outer tree
wat that
steady ocean
shows individual prices for the various cosmetics, and at what tiers they all belong to
outer tree
ah
arctic sky
And how much they cost once you buy the pack they are in
blissful dune
Hey, this is prolly answered already BUT .. IS there an option to buy mothly subscription with in-game token (money, or some hard grinded item) ?
rigid rose
@blissful dune no in game way to do currently .. no.
blissful dune
OK thanks 🙂
quasi whale
I want to ask: will different races have distinctive features like running paterns or posture while running or moving so other players can identify them from a distance. Like there is in Lineage2 with dark elfs, elfs, orcs, humans, dwarfs..
Thanks
jolly vigil
Hello!
I am player from RU-segment, and i am interested question about pre-order kits.
Earlier, prices on pre-order kits for CIS countries, were assigned local localizer (my.games) and purchased on their site. Where i now can bought pre-order kit? And i am interested, his price will be different or no?
Sorry for my eng 🙏
worldly vale
Can someone explain what exactly the gate in this month's cosmetic would actually do in your freehold? Just look cool?
steady ocean
@worldly vale The dev team is going to try and get out clarifications on how the freehold skins will affect the various buildings. So hang tight
worldly vale
Thanks yo
steady ocean
@quasi whale I'd imagine everyone will be able to tell the different races apart by their looks alone. Dwarves are quite small, Orcs are fairly large. The two closest would be elves/humans, but hopefully you can check through some of the developer update vids and see if you can spot some differences. That being said, some of the movement animations could be particular to the various races.
@jolly vigil You can buy the pre-order packs here currently, but you can always wait and see if they will have a different version for EU folks. https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
jolly vigil
@steady ocean thanks u
uncut perch
Anyone have info regarding rare gathering nodes? An aoc equivalent of a black lotus
steady ocean
There have been some mineral/herb nodes shown, but it's unclear if those are placeholders, and at what rarity.
Node spawn locations will be random (probably from a list of preset potential locations) and not necessarily on a predictable timer
warm rune
when will EU store (tax EU) price?
faint plover
When will European shop be ready? Any info?
dapper chasm
u know, if they take the netherlands taxes it 21% instead of 16% NA right now?^^
But there r no dates given for the EU shop
warm rune
they give also calc of Dollar to euro
if Dollar is expensive so cost more
i had to pay 400 euro for 375 dollar
dapper chasm
but its not like u would pay a lot less...its just a couple bucks...
warm rune
or more than 400 euro
but still prefer EU store sorry
i dont want monopoly by dollar-euro cost
it is now price bit lower than 400 euro cuz Dollar is bit weak
arctic sky
They just pulled away from mycom... Give them time to get the EU store up
warm rune
ya but i hope it will those month x d
cuz they keep every month nice stuffs
also i know i should give to them more time ofc
agile shore
Is the things we see in the monthly packages limited, or will be added in the ingame store later?
arctic sky
The exact ones we see now will not be available later
agile shore
Not even the cosmetic items seperately?
ruby swift
Correct. One and done. Once they cycle off the store they are gone for good.
agile shore
Well, thats incredibly dissapointing. cheers for the reply
topaz palm
Can I get both the waveborn AND heat and harmony bundles?
I already purchased the waveborn bundle (the one that goes away sept 2nd)
ruby swift
Based on your package level purchased you will be able to buy cosmetics individually from the next pack at your tier or lower.
topaz palm
And if I bought the 375 bundle, would the other bundle cost the same?
Or would it be cheaper?
rich kraken
if you buy via the intrepid store you still pay the 21% tax that NL has tho, since they work with Xsolla, they just calculate that in, you can see it when you put stuff in your basket and get towards checkout
ruby swift
If you buy all the cosmetics it runs around $115
Yes, for those that have VAT, it is calculated after.
topaz palm
Okay so I can just buy a 2nd voyager bundle for 115 ontop of the 375 I already paid?
ruby swift
No, you purchase the cosmetics individually each month as you choose. You don't have to buy them all, you pick and choose.
topaz palm
Ah
ruby swift
If you were to buy all, it would be that amount.
topaz palm
Got it ty
ruby swift
You don't get a "package" anymore
fading valley
What is the general mechanic behind animal taming? will there be rope involved, or will it simple be a Press E at the right time to tame
ruby swift
@fading valley That info has not been given out yet. It will be a mechanic is all we know, what is involved is still to be clarified.
hoary cosmos
Sorry, I'm still confused. Can I purchase the cosmetics separately from the packs?
ruby swift
After you own a package, then yes
formal zinc
You can buy individual cosmetics that are in te same tier as the pack you bought
Or lower
ruby swift
The month after that you will see the individual prices that match your availability.
hoary cosmos
Ahh got it, ty
drifting jay
Wait - so if I was to purchase the pack worth 375 euros, I would have to spend more money to get the costume from that pack; which I already spent 375 on?
ruby swift
No
You would need to spend more money in future months to get cosmetics from future packs you may like.
Do I need to link the chart again?
drifting jay
Alright so.. purchasing the current fire pack for example would make me eligible for future individual purchases from a pack of the same tier?
ruby swift
Correct
true finch
Is it known whether i can use parts of the costume skin like the hood only? Or do i have to use all components of the costume?
drifting jay
Got'cha
ruby swift
Costumes are one piece.
However they have said there will be hood up/hood down options.
true finch
But the boots of the new pack for example can be mixed and matched with other components right?
ruby swift
Correct
true finch
Thanks bud
hallow torrent
Is there any new info on what building will the blazing gate be a skin for?
ruby swift
Nope, but most believe it is attached to the stargazing profession. There have been like 3 that are similar.
There is some so far unexplained astronomy/astrological thing. Or could be part of the religion prof.
Like this one.
sterile fjord
is there a way to only buy the skinn for the mount or the gear without the accesses into the beta / alpha and the other stuff ? i really like the style of this months stuff but i am only interested in the skinns not the whole packed 😄
formal zinc
The only way to buy them separately is buying one pack once
sturdy jungle
Will you add a heavy armor preorder skin? I want to preorder but i want some heavy ass metalwall looking set.
ruby swift
They have had some in the past.
arctic sky
We know nothing about the looks of future packs
ruby swift
Go down to costumes section. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Skins
sturdy jungle
Yeah but i cant get those preorder skins anymore or do i?
ruby swift
Nope, but was giving you examples of what they have offered in the past. So they may again.
ruby swift
Correct
robust cypress
hey there, i have a question about the lore. not really the main aspect of the lore but a part of it.
if you travel around in the world, find ruins, possibly (back then inhibited) caves etc. - will there be any sings / traces left to explore this kind of lore? what happened to x and y, when, why and so on.
whenever i was playing an mmo and stumbled across something like this, it was 99% "useless", which is personally for me very sad 🙂
ruby swift
They plan for a very in depth exploration and lore mechanic. So without any details. Yes.
robust cypress
i sure hope so, cant wait for it, thanks 😄
jolly kite
Hi, any eta on official release?
formal zinc
Not yet
ruby swift
wet fulcrum
I find it kind of a weird choice to make so many skins limited until release... for completionists like me, I wanna be able to collect mounts and pets and this makes this futile... I'll be stuck with the ones I got before the game releases and maybe bought during that time, but I'll never be able to obtain that tortoise they showed and I loved...
full badger
@jolly kite there won't be an official release date given until Intrepid are sure they can meet it. Community estimates are 2-3 years from now
wet fulcrum
Alpha isn't even started
oak lynx
Alpha
formal zinc
Alpha 1 later this fall
arctic sky
Fall ends in December
jolly kite
Thanks!
oak lynx
hmmm
ornate imp
Things that make you go ^
serene dock
Are blueprints of freeholds and such dropped on death?
also I sure hope there is a decent viewable model function in the game, it would suck to not be able to see what the finished product of a building with certain racial architecture is going to look like until you build it up lol
ornate imp
Believe you only drop gear/weapons if your corrupt. You only loose resources.
velvet citrus
then the question would be: are blueprints considered as resources or as finished items that can't be dropped? 
steep flame
So I saw with the different nodes there are different ways to become mayor, wont it be a problem for economic nodes if you can just funnel all the money to your guildie? or is that intended?
reef osprey
@steep flame you can't funnel any money out of the node's pockets into your own
@steep flame all the funds you get from the node, will have to be used for the node.
Mercenaries/Building Upgrades etc.
Only Castle Owners can funnel the tax money into the guild's pocket
formal zinc
when your freehold is destroyed the blueprints are mailed to the player to utilize for future placement so i guess is not lootable @serene dock
fading valley
I wonder if blueprints can be shared
Like templates. For those of us who suck at decorating haha
undone magnet
You can give other people rights to place stuff in your freehold
serene dock
I think probably not just because then a well established player could effectively transfer stuff to alts / expand storage beyond normal measures
🤷
I feel like this is gonna be a pretty hardcore game but im still excited to see what happens 😄
marsh jungle
Do we know the cost of a 12 month subscription bundle or will there be no bundles?
low lantern
@steep flame I think they are ok with multiple people pooling money so one of them can be a mayor
@no mention of monthly sub bundles, yet
marsh jungle
Ok cause I really want this game but if there's no yearly bundles at a good cost then idk about 15 a month
formal zinc
they are in early development so you always can wait to see further news on that later on
velvet citrus
@marsh jungle honestly 15 a month isn't that much for a hobby you can play 24/7. i know there are enough people who haven't much money, but if this game turns out to be the game we all want, i think it's a good investment
marsh jungle
Yeah I guess so. I just hope this game is actually everything they promise
night bear
how much do the mounts cost if you already own a founder pack?
and you wanted to pick up the next month's
arctic sky
formal zinc
20$
night bear
well that's a convenient pic, thanks! you too dan
formal zinc
Np
verbal sandal
For the costume is it a set or you can pick and and choose?
verbal sandal
So you cant choose not to display the helmet for example?
verbal sandal
Maaan.. Kinda digging Heihachi's hakama looks from takken
tired lava
How much do the cosmetic skins usually cost as an addon if you already have a full preorder package?
formal zinc
tired lava
Tyvm
formal zinc
No problem 🙂
strong drum
Random question - do we know if alpha island is simulating some of the starting areas or if its a stand alone island just for testing purposes
spiral pine
its just a part of the map
unborn sonnet
^
It will be included in the game at launch, but as an Easter egg rather than a starting area
surreal merlin
Hey guys. Is it possible to get the Alpha or Beta Key in the packs, for examble i would Buy the 375 Dollar one separate to give them to a Friend who can try out the Game?
placid vessel
cyan iron
Silly question, (New here) If i wanted to jump in on the Alpha/Beta stuff when next available, How do i go about doing it? I see the (https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop) However what phase is Ashes up to atm?
formal zinc
atm Alpha 1 is launching in fall this year, but you can not longer get access to that
with the currents pack you can access into the alpha 2 next year
with the 250 and 375
with the 150 dollar pack you access to the beta 1 and 2
and with the 75 pack you will access to beta 2
unborn sonnet
Important note, Alpha 2 is being kept running from it's start onward
It is being used as a test realm post launch, so probably the best source of game time pre-launch and useful after
formal zinc
true
cyan iron
Ohh thats very good to kno tyvm, again im new here so if this is listed somewhere please point me in the right direction but any idea on servers? Im in Australia.
unborn sonnet
I'm ignorant on that one, the ashes of creation wiki maybe? not sure
formal zinc
there is an OCE server in Alpha 1
cyan iron
ahh yes i do see that
simple lintel
If not already being considered, what are the chances of having flintlock pistols in the game so I can fulfill my pirate dreams of using a cutlass and flintlock? also, not really a question but feedback thats kinda nitpicking if anything and isnt really a big deal, i noticed ability cooldowns tick counter-clockwise, i find clockwise more readable, I don't know if that is just me though
reef osprey
no gunpowder weapons, that was confirmed @simple lintel
simple lintel
Aw, thats a shame, won't stop me from playing though
reef osprey
your second advice makes perfect sense though, I'd still hope for a digital CD though.
formal zinc
the other matter would be great to discuss in #aoc-discussion 🙂
digital yacht
Keep in mind UI is just a first pass and will go thru lots of changes before launch u may see if change multiple times @simple lintel
simple lintel
Yeah don't worry bout that I know, figured it was just worth noting, as i said its not a big deal, even if it doesnt change it is easy to get used to, i love the direction of the game, if UI elements are what im talking about in early footage, that just speaks for how great the game looks and my expectations for it, normally i don't really care much about the UI as long as its functional
neon lantern
they said alpha 1 will be fall 2020, thats septemeber right?
reef osprey
thats december
formal zinc
later this fall
reef osprey
correct
neon lantern
it just said fall on the adc schedule i saw not late fall or anything
so was just asking
aoc*
velvet citrus
y but steven said it will be late fall, so probably november/december
orchid needle
Is this game going to be on steam or nah? (just curious)
formal zinc
they will launch their game on his own client
olive cloud
fiery raft
They release it with the own launcher
And thats good
No need for greedy steam or shitty epic 😂
gray nacelle
What if I bought a pre-order package but like the cosmetics of a later release better? Can I switch to the cosmetics for the new month or will I have to buy it? Also, if I do buy it and it includes game time does that stack?
unborn sonnet
The game time is granted when you purchase a specific tier, after purchased you can buy each cosmetic individually
there is no swapping cosmetics, but you can buy future ones individually to restate
ruby swift
You can upgrade your package. You pay the difference. So nothing stacks. If you own a package you can buy future cosmetics individually, so there is no need to buy another package as long as you have one at the tier of the cosmetics you want.
gray nacelle
ahh okay thanks! 👍
spiral pine
and you could always refund the one you bought
vapid mural
can i use the same skin more than once on one account? for example if i have 2 characters can i have both equipped with the fire fox skin?
earnest copper
are the crafting classes seperate from the combat classes?
and does taking one exclude me from taking another?
ruby swift
Nope. The cosmetics are single use at a time. Think of it as a closet. You pull out the skin you want to wear. Put it on whichever character, when done, put it back in the closet.
Crafting and adventurer progression is separate.
You can do both.
vapid mural
k thanks
crystal beacon
Is ashes of creation available on asia? 🤔
spiral pine
yes
crystal beacon
nice
ruby swift
Depending on where you are in Asia you may even have regional servers. SEA is a supported region.
ruby swift
Your good then, last announced plan was hosting in Singapore.
crystal beacon
ouu
sand mist
Dang bro
hallow parcel
So if you buy 1 tier package on this month's stuff, you get all future releases on that tier for free?
desert ivy
No
onyx knoll
No, you get the option to buy them individually in the future
If you purchased the 75$ pack then you'll be able to buy the accessory in the following months for 5$ each
hallow parcel
Got it, thanks
humble orchid
Has Steven hinted if Alpha 1 will have Dynamic difficulty in the dungeons?
full badger
@humble orchid We've heard nothing about that for Alpha 1
humble orchid
Ok, thx
steep flame
@reef osprey im not talking about funneling money out of the node im talking about during the election in an economic node if it is intended to funnel all your money to a guildie so he can win an election or if that's not how its intended to work
tall kraken
to be realistic, there will no release next 2 years... maybe alpha 2 next year, beta 1 end 2021, beta 2 2022 and release maybe end of 2022 isnt it?
reef osprey
Why would there be any system against that? Seems most likely to happen
steep flame
@reef osprey because its just another popularity contest essentially just like the scientific
formal zinc
probably when the beta happens the game will be close to launch
reef osprey
@steep flame nah, its not. The most powerful guild in terms of economic wealth will get it.
Popularity doesn't matter there
vague jetty
help will singapore be allowed to play i cant find this game on steam
spiral pine
its not going to be on steam
reef osprey
All guilds with that much economic wealth won't give you the money because they like you the most. They will give it to you before your are a fitting candidate that represents the interests of the guild @steep flame
spiral pine
and yes they will
reef osprey
no steam release
formal zinc
they are going to self publish
vague jetty
when i saw this game i was like oh man dream comes true
tho can singapore play Na
im used to playing in Na in games
onyx knoll
@vague jetty The game isn't currently available to play, and when it will be, it'll have its own launcher. If you are in Singapore, then you're in luck as they're currently planning to have some dedicated servers in Singapore itself. If you prefer to play on NA servers, you'll also be able to, accounts aren't region-locked
crystal beacon
When i go in the shop, i dont see the new package
crystal beacon
Oh got it thanks @formal zinc
formal zinc
crystal beacon
One thing i dont understand is, if i buy this one and later they gonna add an other pack with an other mount/cosmetic i want, i need to buy it again ? 😮
formal zinc
you can buy individual cosmetics that are in the same tier as the pack you bought. Also you can upgrade those packs paying the difference bewteen them. So if you bought the 250 one, to upgrade to the 375, you will have to pay 175.
crystal beacon
Yeah but for example the pack with the mount "fire fox" something like that, i'm gonna buy it, but if there is an other mount later only with the same pack, i need to buy it twice 😒
But
I presume they gonna add the mount individualy in their in game shop maybe later...
onyx knoll
No, you will be able to purchase the mount individually if you have a pack
fallow peak
if you pre-order with cosmetics, do you get access to those cosmetics in-game during alpha 2, or not until full release?
crystal beacon
Okay, i'm gonna wait the release then for buy this pack 😄
desert ivy
Probably not until full release or late betas since they need to actually create and implement the cosmetics
fallow peak
dam
formal zinc
the packs once they are gone from the shop they never come back
onyx knoll
You can only see the option to buy it individually if you already have a pack, these are the individual price for specific cosmetics:
crystal beacon
Perfect, thanks !
fallow peak
so if u you buy the cheapest pack, you can later decide to individually buy more parts of the pack even if the sets switch on the nxt month?
steady ocean
Only at the tier you bought. So if you bought the $75 pack, the next month you can spend $5 to buy the accessory, or choose to upgrade to the higher tiers for the difference in price between the packs
onyx knoll
If you buy the 75$ pack, you'll only be able to individually purchase the accessory in the following months. You can always upgrade your pack to the next tier, for the difference, in which case you'd get the cosmetics available during the month you upgrade in
crystal beacon
I was wondering why i didnt saw mount individually, now i get it
quick mauve
how do i preorder?
onyx knoll
https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop Here is the link to the shop 🙂 The cosmetics are changing in a few hours if those aren't to your linking
limber shard
this game ever go into beta?
onyx knoll
Not yet, we're entering alpha 1 this fall
formal zinc
@quick mauve https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-09-01-heat-and-harmony the new cosmetic rotation today in case you missed it!
onyx knoll
Oops, thanks!
shell fox
Did they ever answer if they were trying out ray tracing for ashes?
woven vale
Ray tracing may be added at a later date but not on launch
unreal zealot
yeh doesnt make sense for them to try getting ray tracing while they are still working of core game mechanics and esign
novel plume
How do you get into the alpha?
unreal zealot
you cant get in alpha 1 but you can purchase alpha 2 on their shop
steady ocean
You can buy alpha 2 acess on the Intrepid store shop, $250 https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com
novel plume
Oh dear... wow. Ok haha. Just now heard of this on YouTube so I was interested. Will probably wait off at that price
arctic sky
It will be streamed
woven vale
If you are at all on edge don't buy in just give feedback
steady ocean
The betas are cheaper, but there will be plenty of folks streaming/making youtube content so no worries
novel plume
Hope it goes well! This seems super promising
formal zinc
With the 75 pack you will access to beta 2
novel plume
Hate I missed the Kickstarter but I’ll be supporting it
late jacinth
i have founder package from kickstarter. it says i can play alpha phase 2, where is the game right now, did we reach alpha phase 2, if not, when? cant wait to play
steady ocean
Although if you wanted to upgrade your kickstarter pack, you could get access to alpha 1 @late jacinth
late jacinth
ok thanks guys
novel plume
Have we heard on what the monthly price of this game will be? $15?
formal zinc
yep
steady ocean
$15 sub price, correct
novel plume
Ok thanks guys!
steady jasper
is there a way to see/check your character will look on those costumes they are selling right now ?
desert ivy
No
unreal zealot
no its all just conecpt art atm
desert ivy
Because the in-game models for the costumes aren't completed
steady jasper
dam
desert ivy
Also the character creation isn't done yet, nor are 2 of the 5 main races
steady jasper
yea i meant race my b on that one. either way difficult to spend $300 for something you dont know how it looks ingame. oh well i guess ill wait until i can see how they look on races and ingame. thanks for the info tho ❤️
unique steeple
but i can only buy future Cosmetics one by one when i already bought a Pack? like i cant buy the past Mounts? @onyx knoll
formal zinc
you can buy individual cosmetics that are in the same tier as the pack you bought
steady ocean
When you buy a pack, you get the choice to buy future cosmetics at the individual cosmetic price, not past cosmetics
arctic sky
onyx knoll
@unique steeple Past cosmetics are no longer available, you can't buy them anymore, sorry 😦
unique steeple
Ok ty
winter parrot
Have the shed any light on how in-game taxes or rent will be addressed? Hopefully there will be a automatic withdrawal from a in-game account
reef osprey
@winter parrot agreed, not a fan of manual payments
no they havent
winter parrot
Thanks Warth
tidal stirrup
Here's a question, how do I withstand waiting for alpha 1? 😛
crystal beacon
Suffer
spiral pine
its auto 100%
crystal beacon
Question concerning the subreddit: Is there a time restriction or something on posting comments? Half the time I try to post a response in a thread, it Submits and nothing appears. In one thread, I was able to reply with "Test" to the OP but any response to other commenters disappeared on every attempt.
I even duplicated the working "Test" but disappearing replies in another thread.
fallow gust
When is release
tulip hatch
Normally if its being moderated or filtered we are informed about it in the logs but there is nothing in the logs regarding your comments @crystal beacon
outer anchor
there isnt one yet but alpha 1 will be before the end of 2020 and there are meant to be 10k people in alpha 1 @fallow gust
royal surge
Has there been any mention of a "rested" status for sleeping in a bed or do those types of furniture items have a purely decorative/RP function?
onyx knoll
@royal surge Yes, renting a room in a tavern gives rested xp. That's the only mention of it so far
tranquil jewel
Hey there could someone tell me what are Embers for? it says in-game marketplace credits, NO P2W.. hopefully it wont be P2W, this game looks amazing
unreal zealot
when the game does launch will there be a similar channel like the guild recruitment but for the Servers them selves? as it would make more sense for there to be one discord server of each in game server so people can effectively update as many people for sieges dates or node changes etc etc, obvs it would make more sense for intrepid to only let one server be tied to the in game server in an "official" capacity allowing it to be linked in the said channel in this discord. or would intrepid just make channels that are tied to servers that people have to ask for entry.?
dapper chasm
They r for cosmetic items like petskins, mountskins etc when the game launches @tranquil jewel
dapper chasm
yes, they will just offer visuals in that shop...no statsgain, no advantages etc 😄
tranquil jewel
amazing @dapper chasm , thank you for the info
from what i heard from Steven on Asmongold AMA Youtube video, pvp system is going to be similar to Lineage 2 pvp system, hopefully this game will be the chosen one to finally find a better pvp oriented mmorpg . 🙂
dapper chasm
@unreal zealot i guess we wont get server channels...if we want or need them it should be fine to make them urself and let the people from the server join 😄
unreal zealot
@dapper chasm i get that thats why i asked about a server join channel like the guild recruitment channel that intrepid would let one server for each in game server be advertised there so the community has easier access to the information like tavern locations, node locations dungeons etc etc.
also did they take away the $350 pack? i cant upgrade to it anymore i was waiting for the new cosmetics
unique steeple
Yeah no 350 one for me either
eternal mason
@unreal zealot same here
tight gale
In the future, when we have live servers, we will most likely change the organization of channels. 
(We understand that question)
dapper chasm
Patience guys 😄 u can throw ur money soon i guess
tight gale
It should be visible now.
unreal zealot
❤️ crisis averted xD
formal zinc
it is visible yep
tight gale
(We are working on why it's only showing 3. Sorry and thanks for your patience.)
unreal zealot
@tight gale thanks for the answer as well ❤️
eternal mason
@tight gale take your time i was just scare that ill maby wont be able to get the big pack anymore ^^
cyan compass
Hello, I have bought the 250$ package about a month ago and now I'm looking at the shop and I can't buy the skins separately, instead, I have to buy them as a package, is there a way to just buy them separately?
tight gale
@cyan compass please put in a ticket and support will assist you!
unique steeple
Ty @tight gale i confirm it shows for me now
spiral pine
@cyan compass make sure youre logged in
unreal zealot
@cyan compass are you logged in?
tight gale
^ Oh yes, make sure you are logged in first! 
@cyan compass
cyan compass
I am
tight gale
All 4 packages should be good now.
@cyan compass - put in a ticket then. ❤️ We'll get you sorted.
cyan compass
Yeah I'm doing that right now
hexed minnow
OK, pyromania satisfied
primal stag
Is there a reason when I'm going to buy the packages it shows the ashes of creation apocalypse logo?
plucky pawn
@primal stag can you please share a screenshot of where you're seeing this?
woven zodiac
Hi, I just purchased a pack on the website, and I wanted to see if I could get my hands on some extra skins without getting a higher tier pack, but I can't see the shop anymore when logged into my account. And sometimes my cart now indicates that there's an item in it (icon shows "1") but when I click it's empty. What can I do to fix this? I tried logging in in incognito and deactivating my ad blocker but it didn't solve the issue. What am I missing? 😦
plucky pawn
To clarify @woven zodiac , for the month you purchase a pack, you'll only see the upgrade tiers! You won't see the individual items.
You'll see the individual items in future months - but if you could share a screenshot of what you mean by "can't see the shop anymore", that would help us take a look!
woven zodiac
Oh that's too bad... But I also don't see the upgrade tiers...
hexed minnow
What tier did you buy?
woven zodiac
Basically looks like this right now
And my cart is empty with the "1" still showing in the top right corner
primal stag
@plucky pawn Its when it redirects to PayPal
plucky pawn
What happens if you try another browser, or Ctrl+F5ing?
primal stag
woven zodiac
What happens if you try another browser, or Ctrl+F5ing?
@plucky pawn Will try another browser, ctrl+F5 was the first thing I tried, didn't change anything.
plucky pawn
It does look like your shop updated correctly though, as you can see the "Wayfarer" at the top!
tyty @primal stag , passing that along to the team!
woven zodiac
@plucky pawn Same issue with Brave, Chrome, Safari and Firefox. I do see the "Wayfarer" but not the upgrade tiers.
ebon blade
when will we no longer be able to buy access to Alpha 2? and will that be announced in advance?
plucky pawn
okay, one more thing I'd like you to look at/check @woven zodiac - if you log into your account and check your Inventory/Order History, does it show your recent purchase successfully?
@ebon blade We haven't announced an end date, and yup we'll let you know in advance!
woven zodiac
Yep it does
ebon blade
@plucky pawn thanks!
primal stag
@plucky pawn Also on the confirmation email I received the product was listed as APOC
plucky pawn
Much appreciated @woven zodiac - at this point I'm going to request that you go ahead and put in a support ticket so we can take a look at your account further and see what might be going on 😄
@primal stag yup, that is tied to the second thing you shared, regarding the Xsolla header at the top
primal stag
makes sense
shell mason
Question will skill points like strength agility etc be locked according to class or will we be able to put them according to what we want for example woth 5 points per lvl awill a fighter be able to go 3 strength 1 health 1 dext or something along this line or not
ruby swift
Stat allocation is fixed based off of a few factors like race. Stat differences are achieved by gear.
shell mason
Ohh so every race will have different lvl gains to stats elves higher intell and orcs more stam something like that
ruby swift
plucky pawn
hey frand @woven zodiac - if you're still around, would you mind please checking your shop again?
pure bay
@ruby swift If someone chooses a primary archetype of, say, fighter that utilizes Power, but a secondary of say mage that utilizes will/wisdom, will the individual have to spread their points around to all 4 of those attributes to remain strong, or will they keep their points in their primary class' stats?
ruby swift
As far I as know from last information given, players will not be manually adjusting stats. What the system will do for that is unknown also.
Other than choosing gear that has stats they are looking for.
pliant ocean
Gear, supposedly, makes up 40-50% of our stats.
desert ivy
No because you're thinking of the primary/secondary archetypes wrong. You dont' get any abilities from the secondary archetypes, just augments that empower your primary archetypes abilities
pure bay
Right. I guess I'm wondering if, during the gearing process, a spellsword will be weaker than say a fighter+fighter because the spellsword had to spread their gear out over physical + magical damage stats, whereas the fighter+fighter only had to specialize into physical damage stats
ruby swift
Yeah, think it was the Steven AMA where he went into it a bit more in depth.
pliant ocean
Some will be racial based. (not sure on % wise), the rest I have no idea.
pure bay
@desert ivy Well I guess I'm unsure if augmenting changes actual damage type, e.g. physical-->magic
desert ivy
So even if you go Fighter/Mage, you will still be a Fighter, just with fire/teleportation/lightning/ice (for example) augments for your abilities
pure bay
@desert ivy But would some attacks remain physical and some be morphed into magic (damage types)? Thus creating the need for both physical and magical damage stats
steady ocean
We will probably have to wait and see on that aspect @pure bay
ruby swift
So little is currently known about how augments will work that theorycrafting is not really worth it atm.
steady ocean
For Alpha 2
pure bay
Gotcha gotcha
odd skiff
So how long is Alpha one access ?
woven sand
do we know if NPC's will be voice acted or just read?
ruby swift
So how long is Alpha one access ?
@odd skiff As long as needed. That is all they have said.
full badger
@woven sand There will likely be stock lines for NPCs but quests won't be voice acted
woven sand
@full badger thank you, a little bit of a bummer but I'll get over it lol
desert ivy
It's just too expensive for them to feasibly do with their current budget
woven sand
yeah i totally understand, i just personally think its more immersive when its voiced
high yew
How does one get invited to Alpha?
formal zinc
you cant get into alpga 1 anymore
ruby swift
You buy a package with the matching access
woven sand
@high yew Alpha 1 is sold out but you can pre order and get access to alpha 2 and betas
formal zinc
with the the 250 and 375 packs you can access into the alpha 2
final oxide
Are cosmetics tied to accounts or servers
formal zinc
ypur account
woven sand
@high yew no problem, dont give your hopes up but they have talked about possibly letting more people into alpha 1 once it starts
high yew
Would be nice @woven sand . But I understand.
clear ridge
is alpha 2 projected for this year or is that unannounced?
plucky pawn
That link above stays updated with the latest plans as we have them!
@final oxide Cosmetics are account-bound, and you'll be able to assign them to whichever character you'd like to use them on at any given time from an overall account page.
mossy delta
hey frand @woven zodiac - if you're still around, would you mind please checking your shop again?
@plucky pawn hi, had the same problem as Yoone, but did not say anything since you were dealing with it. Just want to confirm that the problem is fixed now, though the Cosmetic Skins have changed.
plucky pawn
Glad it's fixed for ya @mossy delta ! Though what did you mean by changed?
(you should be seeing the new Heat and Harmony set now 😄 )
plucky pawn
Yupyup, that all looks correct, ty for confirming @mossy delta ! 
woven zodiac
I can indeed see the shop with upgrades now @plucky pawn! No individual skins, but as I understand it that's by design? That's too bad, I would've bought it last month if I knew :/
plucky pawn
Great, glad you're seeing the upgrades now! Yup, during the month you purchase, you automatically get the skin at that level included in your package - and then if you'd like the other individual ones, they're contained in the upgrade packages!
Then, next month when you log in, you'll see the individual items available that correspond to the tier you already have
woven zodiac
Oh I see, I thought it was possible to buy skins included in higher tiers
plucky pawn
Ah! No, each of the package levels grants you access to certain tiers of skins each month. The only exception is Kickstarter/Summer backers, who are always able to grab all of the individual ones.
crisp holly
This is the best way to look at the packs and once you have them, what skins you can get moving forward.
unborn ridge
the package descriptions don’t do any justice in explaining that haha
this was super helpful though
I was worried that I would only be locked to the cosmetic pack that comes with the preorder
tawny sonnet
i just bought a pack is it normal that it says product APOC on the buy confirmation email ?
pliant ocean
Quick question: I noticed that the new ship cosmetic says it is a caravan cosmetic. Does this mean that ships in-game will be limited to caravans? Or will you be able to sail them around outside of caravans? jw
onyx knoll
@tawny sonnet a few people have mentioned this, I think it's just an image that hasn't been updated, as far as I know it hasn't affected any purchase
@pliant ocean No you'll be able to make larger ships that aren't caravans
tawny sonnet
@onyx knoll ok thanks
ancient pivot
But, the question remains, are there "caravan ships" and "non-caravan ships"?
pliant ocean
Does that mean that Caravan cosmetics are specific to only caravans? Because that ship cosmetic on the store right now would be amazing if it isn't only a caravan skin.
onyx knoll
@ancient pivot yes, there are both types. Technically the caravan "ships" are just regular caravans that transform when they get on water
unreal zealot
im pretty sure the caravan skin you select will just have a boat version, tbh if you look at the swamp one from july it looks like a boat anyway
onyx knoll
They are advertised as caravan skins, I don't know if it'll be possible to use them on regular ships, but maybe
timber stag
Hey, maybe an oddly specific question but how do you guys plan on battling real-world trading? (e.g. selling ingame gold/items for real money)
shell mason
Question is the EU bundle buying open or not yet
formal zinc
As far as I know There won't be anything to stop someone from doing that but they will attentive if someone is trading a lot of money constanly etc etc @timber stag
desert ivy
You can still buy if you're EU
Just you have to pay extra because of VAT
They'll battle RWT by banning both the sellers and buyers instead of just sellers like most games
Can't really do too much more than that
timber stag
@formal zinc I see! Also, i could probably get this answered by watching the videos but they're a bit long. What about rng loot? I loooove the idea of finding a chest and getting some uncommon with a chance on rare items, i love that. WoW Sadly ruined this in later xpacs, but will this game have it?
desert ivy
Yes there will be chances to find rare loot
balmy juniper
Did they say when they will open the EU Shop?
timber stag
Awesome!
desert ivy
you can buy on Intrepid even if you are on EU. If you're wondering when our prices are getting changed, then no, we don't know when
balmy juniper
you mean the same shop which was "for NA" before?? @desert ivy before the EU pack was from my.games
desert ivy
Intrepids shop has always been for everyone. Even if you were EU before the my.games change you could still buy on the Intrepid site
Afterall, I'm EU and have been buying on Intrepids site for 3 years
balmy juniper
how much have you spend so far? @desert ivy
desert ivy
$1060 
balmy juniper
the current skikns are just too good
timber stag
Will probably buy the 75$ with the 20$ mount when i can.
if its possible to get them seperate ._.
formal zinc
you can always upgrade to the next pack in the future if you wish/can 
@timber stag
timber stag
owww alrighty, ill see waht i can do ahah
balmy juniper
when is open NDA alpha 1 starting?
dapper chasm
with the 75 bucks pack u r just able to buy future accessories...nothing else...if u want the mount or future mounts seperately u need to alteast spend 250 once ( and the price of the future mounts ofc)