questions

[cyan compass]

I don't think it is, as far as I remember, every month, the castle gets sieged and whatever guilds does the most gets it, if the siege is a success

Even for the first month? @full badger

[grim breach]

Are the "members" limited to their own guild or does that include their alliance members as well?

[cyan compass]

Interested, so for the first month too?

Or is it only for when a guild holds it

[autumn sapphire]

Quick question, will I need a subscription to be able to play or is it just for some premium features or something

[cyan compass]

Its subscription based

[autumn sapphire]

So I need to be paying the subscription in order to actually have access to the game and login and stuff?

[cyan compass]

Yes

[full badger]

@grim breach @cyan compass I don't know. That would be something to ask for the next livestream perhaps

[autumn sapphire]

hmmm ok

[cyan compass]

Alright thanks

[grim breach]

@autumn sapphire Game is purely subscription based. No box cost, no need to pay for DLC as well.

[forest pike]

Just cosmetics

[autumn sapphire]

So I assume the actual game will be free too yeah? I won't need to pay an initial game fee or anything?

Like I don't need to buy it and then sign up for a sub

?

[forest pike]

Yeah no box cost

[cyan compass]

I don't believe so no, you only pay your subscription

[autumn sapphire]

oh right ok

[grim breach]

The game is not free to play.

[cyan compass]

He's asking about box cost

[autumn sapphire]

yeah i get it now sorry im really slow tonight

tired

[forest pike]

Unacceptable

[grim breach]

Okay, yeah. Should've clarified what a box cost is since some might not understand it.

[autumn sapphire]

nah ik what it is, im just stupid

[light flicker]

Is there any info on AOE spells dealing less dmg to players if they are in big blob?

[grim breach]

Not sure what that means but we don't have a lot of info regarding skills/spells yet.

[autumn sapphire]

How many abilities will we be able to slot at once? Will there be a double bar system?

[forest pike]

Will alpha 1 be on the unreal 4.25?

[real sleet]

Unknown, as of yet. And the UI is just a placeholder.

As for the engine: I think they said in the last video that the update was "done", so I suppose the A1 will be running in the new version

[grim breach]

How many abilities will we be able to slot at once? Will there be a double bar system?
@autumn sapphire There will be options for multiple hotbars. Regarding skill slots, we don't know, only that they said it will be below 30.

[celest moat]

Hi all, I'm totally in love with the game and seeing all this development is so cool and awesome, many thanks for showing us the whole process and being open about all the flaws and goods inside the development process.

My type of play is usually and 99% of the time, Archery, and i'm only seeing a bit of combat for the tanks and mages, when will be a demo for the archery as that will be a very important point to me and usually is a deal breaker! i can give an example, where in ESO the archery play feels like poor and not optimized to be a MAIN weapon but always a secondary weapon, and as much i like ESO story/lore i don't play the game at all because of this feel of the archery gameplay!

My question when will be a demo of archery and how it will be done with your hybrid combat style ?
@green dune see https://youtu.be/1s82xJnx1EY?t=484
And same vid around 9:35 ... So far thats the only ranger gameplay that Ive seen. Mb its already outdated, who knows..

[autumn sapphire]

30 damn that is a lot

i was thinking like 10

[lone magnet]

Where can I buy ashes of creation

[full badger]

@lone magnet https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop You can purchase pre-order packs here

[lone magnet]

That sure is expensive

What does the 300 euro pack give me

Will be there monthly subscription?

[full badger]

You do not need to pre-order. The game won't have a box cost so if you don't want to buy a pre-order pack, you can just wait and pay the subscription when the game releases

[lone magnet]

Do I get any advantage pre ordering the game?

[full badger]

None at all

They give you cosmetics and access to certain testing phases

[lone magnet]

So wait how much will be the monthly subscription

[full badger]

$14.99 USD a month

[silk tapir]

Depending on your location. Base price in the us is 15 bucks

[lone magnet]

Means those 300 euro will not actually give me the game

But those 15 a month will

[silk tapir]

Yes

[grim breach]

375 USD pack will give you 9 months of game time

When the game launches

[silk tapir]

Packs are for fancy stuff. Fashionista

[lone magnet]

So it's not convenient to buy these packs if I am not interested in cosmetics

[grim breach]

9 months of game time ($135 value)
$125 in Embers (in-game marketplace credits, NO P2W!)

Plus name reservation, cosmetics and Alpha 2, Beta 1&2 access.

Up to you. If you're not interested in cosmetics or any of the testing phase, you do not have to buy a pre-order pack at all.

[silk tapir]

If you just Wanne play don’t buy

[lone magnet]

I want to to play a testing phase tbh

[crystal beacon]

if you don't want to spend any money on cosmetics, and don't want alpha and beta access, then don't buy a pack

oh then you want to buy a pack

[atomic lake]

Just confirming pricing of the $15 will vary from region? For example, if I am in Thailand it will be a different price?

[grim breach]

There will be price harmonization. We don't know the specifics yet.

How much it will vary and what regions will have their own price.

[atomic lake]

ah okay thanks 🙂

[grim breach]

But if you do subscribe in one of the regions that have their own pricing, you will only be allowed to play in that region.

[mint solstice]

With no addons being part of AoC will there be built in Healing/damage meters to the game?
If no, what measures would be available to GMs to judge performance and contribution in raids?

[full badger]

@mint solstice no damage meters at all

[grim breach]

There will be combat logs, however.

For individuals, only.

[mint solstice]

Thanks - I see both the upside and downside to this. At least it should be easier to persuade dps to do mechanics properly 🙂

[cyan compass]

Is the artisan class, Siege weapon about doing the siege weapons itself, or is it like ship building where you can only craft upgrades for them?

[full badger]

@cyan compass

[grim breach]

You actually craft ship components as a ship builder. Non-ship builders can still build a ship without being a ship builder, they just need to components made by ship builders to build a ship.

So not necessarily craft upgrades for ships. The components can be used to build ships as well.

[cyan compass]

@grim breach thats not my question

Thank you @full badger

[grim breach]

It's not, but crafting upgrades as opposed to crafting components which also can be used to build a ship is different.

[green dune]

@green dune see https://youtu.be/1s82xJnx1EY?t=484
And same vid around 9:35 ... So far thats the only ranger gameplay that Ive seen. Mb its already outdated, who knows..
@celest moat This video is showing the first interaction of the game, if i'm not mistaken that is from Apocalypse kinda gameplay, in terms of the MMORPG doesn't seem to be like the same POV so i'm guessing that is quite outdated... Just wanted to see a bit like they're always showing the sword and shield and the mages... but i just have to wait 😦

[jolly mica]

Is there somewhere i can read up on the combat system. I've heard something about different modes. tab targeting versus something else, and i'm not sure what they mean

[grim breach]

Tab and action combat. Hybrid combat, as the developers calls it. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Combat_targeting

[crystal beacon]

what scribe is really for? just to have create notes in a book or scroll? or is it for creating spellbooks

[crystal flax]

Declarations of war might also be written by them

[merry cradle]

If you own a tavern, can you make a VIP area?

[sly monolith]

will there be plasic dolls? that i can shackle to my bed in my house?

[real sleet]

@grim breach could you elaborate on the combat log part? A source would be great where I can start to dig in, I also accept DMs if possible

[south brook]

What's the in game currency going to be? Will it just be gold coins?

[grim breach]

Steven confirming about combat logs:
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/231474/#Comment_231474

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/235233/#Comment_235233

[sonic echo]

I'm watching the combat video, but I don't see anything about blocking, can you block with your shield like in darksouls or is it ability based like wow?

[dire tiger]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Shields#Active_blocking

there is both active and passive blocking

[oak depot]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tank see Bulwark and Block (Passive) above it on the page

[sonic echo]

Thank ye

[lilac osprey]

Technically the answer is: Its not decided, but contrary to the battle royal Apocalypse, which had active blocking the devs are atm tending to make it more WoW like in the MMO, as stated in Kittens link. That ofc doesnt mean there arent actives, you can use, that interact with your block chance

[undone torrent]

heya, i have a question: Where can I see previous months packages and September package?

I just want to compare and see if I buy in September month or not

[crystal beacon]

Are there going to be two handed shields? I'd really love them.

[dire tiger]

I'm passing out and going to sleep but if you go on the wiki and go to the cosmetic store page, then select like voyager pack, it shows you all the previous packs in chronological order

[true finch]

@undone torrent As kitten mentioned there is a list on the cosmetics packs of the past. The Cosmetic pack of september hasnt been announced yet. It will drop on the 2.September and we will likely get more info on it beforehand as they did the same with the other packs. Steven leaked 2 pictures of the next month´s pet and mount though, the overall theme should be the same for the other cosmetics. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/257283936756039680/749847427720282132/image0-39.jpg and https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/257283936756039680/749847469218594926/image0-25.jpg

[rugged knoll]

they look dope

[sleek sluice]

I've heard that the tier 3 royal mounts will have a lifespan of around a month but I haven't heard anything about the other tiers. Will tier 1/2/A mounts be susceptible to dying? What about combat pets?

[rugged knoll]

wait, mounts die?

[true finch]

@rugged knoll They do! Im looking forward to see the armor

[sleek sluice]

I hope so!

I want to sell them! 🙂

[rugged knoll]

so are these just skins to place over mounts you get?

[true finch]

@sleek sluice They can die in combat but can be ressurected in some way i think. They are permanent only the royal mounts are tied to a life span

@rugged knoll exactly

[rugged knoll]

i bought the cheapo set, till i found a cool cosmetic i liked. but AuD to USD sucks xD

[sleek sluice]

Interesting... what are you thoughts on that?

[true finch]

@rugged knoll there is also an additional tax on it, if you are not from the US. Hopefully they can set up their new publishing subsidiary fast for both EU and CIS

[rugged knoll]

hmm the 75$ ended up being like 124$ xD

[true finch]

I want to sell them! 🙂
@sleek sluice There is a profession called animal housbandry to breed mounts. If i remember correctly it also influences the stats of mounts and pets such as hp or ms

[sleek sluice]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that. I also like the idea of renting them out for someone who's just taking a day trip but if non-royal mounts are permanent then that seems out the window.

[oak depot]

Yes, the cosmetics are just skins to put on mounts. You don’t get any of the abilities the mount has just by putting in the skin. To get the abilities you have to actually find the mount in game.

Yes mounts can be attacked and killed. They can be resurrected after a certain cooldown. Potions exist to reduce the cooldown.

[crystal beacon]

How do I go about playing this fine game?

[oak depot]

@crystal beacon for now you wait. Alpha-1 starts sometime soon but you can’t get into it anymore. Alpha-2 will follow and if you buy a high-enough supporter pack you can get an Alpha-2 key with it.

[lethal saffron]

will we have fist weapons by any chance?

[oak depot]

@lethal saffron we have no examples of fist weapons in game currently. It is unlikely unless as part of a parlor game in a Tavern

[serene dock]

will guild war decs need to be crafted like siege scrolls and all that jazz?

[oak depot]

@serene dock Guild War features and mechanics are still in the design phase. I do not know an answer to your question. Here is the best info we have and it's dated back to 2017 so could be changed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7KJT_NYEk&feature=youtu.be&t=52m01s

[serene dock]

thanks fam

• timestamp thanks hahaha ❤️

100%, wouldnt expect that since its a massively different scale, but from the video nostra linked there will also be some strategic objectives to complete probably so that really narrows down what i was imagining and some potential problems 🙂

[forest pike]

So alpha 1 will release by December 21st right?

[crystal beacon]

No one answered me before, so I'll ask again, opinion on having two handed shields in the game?

[forest pike]

@crystal beacon not gonna happen

[true finch]

@simple ether wait the date 21.December got announced?

[tranquil willow]

by 21st

[forest pike]

@true finch creative director letter mentions late fall and fall ends on December 21st so...

[meager yarrow]

Will you be able to make public workstations as a mayor? Say for example your town is heavy on mining can you make a public place for smelting ore?

[true finch]

@crystal beacon i think this channel is not about game design suggestions / ideas. The discussion channels or the forum would be a better place

[forest pike]

The discussion channels are a furry fiesta

[meager yarrow]

@meager yarrow Yes the mayor can direct public projects
@simple ether Lol how funny I actually got this question from just now watching your video on artisan review. Didn’t save question till end though. Still watching

[silver mulch]

@simple ether are you a 6c0x1?

[forest pike]

Ahh I'm X Æ A-12 nevermind...

[oak depot]

you wish

[acoustic barn]

Is Ashes of Creation playable yet?

[oak lynx]

no

[acoustic barn]

because i'm watching a video and it says playable alpha 1 in august 1st

or just august

[silver mulch]

Push back are pretty common in mmo development

[onyx knoll]

Alpha 1 hasn't started yet, it will begin sometime this fall

[acoustic barn]

Alright, who will have acces? People who buy a founders package too?

me trying to figure out what these words mean

was that a yes or a no or a kinda to my question

[onyx knoll]

KS = kickstarter

[meager yarrow]

You can buy alpha 1 but it’s expensive and will be a work in progress

[acoustic barn]

Ow, I see :c

[onyx knoll]

Currently you cannot buy into alpha 1 legally

[unreal zealot]

@acoustic barn if you buy the $250 voyager pack you can get alpha 2 access.

[onyx knoll]

they MIGHT re-open the sales for alpha 1 after making sure they can handle the people they have at the moment, but that's not guaranteed

[meager yarrow]

I meant 2 sorry

[acoustic barn]

Ah, I see, is there already a date for Alpha 2?

[onyx knoll]

Currently no

[meager yarrow]

No official date I’d estimate a year after alpha one

[unreal zealot]

@acoustic barn not yet but the pack comes with game time and embers to spend i nthe shop when it launches as well as a bunch of cosmetics

https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop

[acoustic barn]

Dangggggg, so when will the game be in Beta? Not by 2021?

[split crest]

No official date I’d estimate a year after alpha one
@meager yarrow too much

[unreal zealot]

beta might be late late 2021 or in 2022 probably more likey to be 2022 tho

[meager yarrow]

The full game is probably 1-3 years from being done. One year is unlikely to be finished

I’m just falsely hoping

@meager yarrow too much
@split crest how long do you think it will take for alpha 2? I’m invested in this cuz I have access

[acoustic barn]

Alright, thank you very much

[onyx knoll]

If you want to discuss potential timeframes of the testing phases please go to one of the discussion channel 🙂

[meager yarrow]

Alright, thank you very much
@acoustic barn if you’re looking for a way to stay up to date they do a dev update livestream every month and you can make forum post about things you don’t like or do like so that we have a voice in development

If you want to discuss potential timeframes of the testing phases please go to one of the discussion channel 🙂
@onyx knoll ok

[acoustic barn]

Thanks, but I'll just try to forget about this as fast as possible so I don't cry thinking that it'll take one more year til release 🙂

because it looks amazing already

[oak depot]

I would suggest not offering guesses in the Questions channel as it can lead to repeating of potentially erroneous information

[oak lynx]

if you have the Alpha 2 package and intrepid release Alpha 1 packages again would you have to pay for a whole new package

[oak depot]

If someone asks "When is Alpha 2?" just say "Information is currently not known." rather than "my guess is ..." or "my estimation is..." or "my psychic says ..."

[oak lynx]

ok thanks

[meager yarrow]

Apologies for long question ahead of time. So they have said world bosses can have effects on seasons like keeping a area in winter. They have also said that seasons will effect some abilities like fire being stronger in summer and ice in winter and so on. So on to my question, if a world boss plunged a area into a winter till it died do you think it could be worth it to keep the boss alive in order to farm winter specific things year round and/or have a winter themed mage that fights in the area?

[civic terrace]

question is what yields more value

[unreal zealot]

there wil be places on the map that have static seasons as well like high snowy mountains or a desert

[meager yarrow]

I’m also just for the lore of it. Do you think it would be possible for a guild to protect its dungeon or lair through pvping raid trying to kill it?

[oak depot]

A winter dragon may appear because a node has developed to stage 4. That dragon may bring eternal winter until it is killed That's a pretty old quote (being from 2017) - it's an interesting question. The answer will obviously depend on many unknowns and what you or your guild are trying to achieve. We don't know what would happen to said dragon if node advances to stage 5 for example.

maybe it leaves... maybe it gets stronger.. maybe you cannot advance node to Stage 5 until dragon is killed..

it would make an interesting discussion topic in #aoc-discussion ... see what people think and would like to see... might help IS develop some ideas if they haven't fully flashed out the system though

[fluid bear]

Is there a way to check name reservations?~

[desert ivy]

No because no names have been reserved yet

[arctic swift]

Will archetypes have specializations/whatever to call it? Like mage being able to choose between different schools of magic and such that will play into the Classes, like being able to choose what spells Mage Primary has and what augments Mage Secondary will bring

Do we know what those are yet?

And for primary? Are all 4 school in The same tree or different ones? If we have that info yet ofcourse

Thanks! 💕 Very well written, you have done a good job at it ^^

[stable silo]

Hey, I've been watching a lot of stuff recently and they keep mentioning highest DPS contribution being pretty directly tethered to a lot of loot. Is this primarily for determining which group gets loot and not used much for individuals? Or how will healers exist in this system?

[dark jungle]

it applies to groups

[oak depot]

It’s for group looting rights determination not individual player.

[stable silo]

Okay, good to know.Thanks!!

[fluid bear]

will action hotbar skills be cooldown or resource based? or a mix of both?

[glacial walrus]

i’m sure we’ll have nighttime in Verra, right? have we seen any nighttime gameplay? if yes, do we know the day/night cycle?

[onyx knoll]

There is a day/night cycle, but we don't have a final answer on how long they'll be last time I checked. I think they were looking at 15mins = 1 hour

[lilac osprey]

from what Ive seen both @fluid bear There is definitly mana then there is focus for "ultimate skills" but there is also cooldown. Autohits have animations which limit them.

Well there arent really autohits

but your non skill hits with weapon

[crystal beacon]

So I was doing my morning walk earlier today and I happened to stroll next to a restaurant building and the wind blew delicious cooked meals into my olfactory organ and MY QUESTION is.. will taverns have a "widespread" smell buff within a range that will tell the player that there is good food nearby giving them a "Hunger?, Delicious Smell" buff giving them +1 to +5 movement speed increasing as they get closer to the tavern... making them want to buy food to gain that eaten buff?

[unreal zealot]

taverns give a radial buff i believe not sure what the mechanic is behind it tho, i think you need to eat here and you gain a buff as long as your within the taverns range

[crystal beacon]

Yeah I understand that mechanic, but my question is about getting more players to go into the tavern by giving the tavern a buff that gives off a smell that attracts players.

[full badger]

@crystal beacon Feel free to suggest it on the forums. It's not something currently planned for in the game

[unreal zealot]

normally word of mouth will suffice just ask in local chat or Yell asking where nearest tavern is to your current grinding/farming spot

[silver mulch]

Is there a corruption limit?

@crystal beacon maybe have tavern games that give xp buffs for winning

[unreal zealot]

as far as im aware we havnt been told if corruption will have a soft/hard cap or any at all.

[rigid rose]

No info on if corruption has a cap or if does what it’s limit is... correct

[silver mulch]

@rigid rose thank you

@unreal zealot thanks

[unreal zealot]

❤️

[silver mulch]

Do we have an idea how many kills it will take to make a player lose combat efficiency?

[unreal zealot]

it depends of the level difference

if you lvl 50 killinglvl 10 probably not that many

[silver mulch]

Assuming same level

[full badger]

Unknown at this time

[unreal zealot]

also it MIGHT work as you need to take into account of how much xp is needed for each level as that will be how much xp debt you need to get before you stats go down from 50 to 49, and the lower you go the quicker your going to lose combat efficiency but we wont find out until nda is free and in alpha 2 or beta 1 where we can reach max level and test it all.

so 50 -49 would take the longest if thats how it ends up working

[desert ivy]

That's something that will be massively balanced and changed during alpha/beta so even if we had a number for right now it would change multiple times during testing

[knotty quest]

Is there any information about the tulnar out yet?
My fingers already want to do some art xD

[onyx knoll]

nothing yet

[lean current]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tulnar

[unreal zealot]

not yet this is the concept art of their possible silhouettes

but nothing is set in stone

[desert ivy]

Pretty sure that was scrapped and is no longer accurate

[knotty quest]

I wouldn't say not longer accurate. I'm sure they will go with a few of their beginning concepts.
I guess I will just draw a new character and hope that he could maybe look like that xD

[primal delta]

Character creator + Tulnair = win!

[narrow mirage]

do we get a new pre order pack in september

[formal zinc]

yep

[narrow mirage]

😌 nice

like tomorrow ? or do we have to wait a few days into the month

[unreal zealot]

2nd

[split osprey]

Steven said the combat system will have action combat and tab targeting. I still don't understand what the difference is especially for a ranged attack like from a Ranger's bow. Is that the difference? Ranged would be tab targeting?

[steady ocean]

2nd is the day the officially release the new pack for purchase, usually a day or or so before they give us a preview of what the pack will have.

@split osprey action combat forces you to aim with a reticle, tab target attacks auto-path to your target as long as you are positioned correctly.

[split osprey]

thanks

[oak depot]

in the latest Q&A Steven clarified that gear stored in a player's Inventory does not suffer durability loss. Do we know if a player is allowed/able to unequip gear during combat (PvE or PvP) when they are about to die (or they believe they will die) and thus circumvent the durability loss or if mechanisms exist preventing this?

[steady ocean]

You can only switch between your equipped weapons in combat, which would all take durability dmg on death, as all count as equipped

[oak depot]

so I cannot equip/unequip items while in combat?

[steady ocean]

As far as I know, you cannot.

Similar to other games like WoW.

[oak depot]

Players cannot switch armor while in combat.[2][4]

Weapon swapping in the Ashes of Creation MMORPG will be subject to a cooldown period following any damage taken or done by the player.[2][3]

[steady ocean]

Yep, and just above that comment there will be a short cooldown on weapon switching

[oak depot]

I assume Weapon Swapping refers to "switching items in/out" not "switching between Ranged and Melee" (Sword vs Bow)

[spiral pine]

you arent locked to a weapon type

[steady ocean]

I believe it refers to your equipped items. Since your attacks are linked to the combo system, the devs want your attacks to mean something.

@oak depot Listen to Steven's and Jeff's full explanation (about a minute or so long) https://youtu.be/0KbuD3pj2Ik?t=1h15m58s. It's of course subject to testing/change

[oak depot]

listened to it (thanks for the link), and I feel like it is kind of counter-intuitive to their statement on switching between Ranged and Melee here: Characters performing ranged abilities will switch to the ranged weapon, then can switch back to the melee weapon and shield or two-handed melee weapon.[7]

[steady ocean]

They can do that, it will just have a few second cooldown

[oak depot]

seems clunky if For example, with the Ranger, if you have a range skill it'll automatically swap regardless of what your main weapon hand is, but for the combat ability for the "Auto Attack" feature it would be your chosen weapon. while in combat I use a ranged bow attack and it takes a few seconds for it to execute

[dapper thistle]

you gotta remember tho, if your class is mage, that two handed sword switch isnt gonna do that much

i can see a reality tho where people switch to like a shield to block a huge dmg opener etc

but nothing much more

[steady ocean]

Until we see it in testing, we really don't know what to expect besides what the devs have said. If you want to theorycraft/speculate on the issues, you can always ask in #aoc-discussion

[crimson mulch]

is the game gonna have a monthly sub ?

[tranquil willow]

yes, $15 a month

[crimson mulch]

[tranquil willow]

there is no box cost tho, so not the end of the world

[lunar hollow]

And no paid DLCs

Just $15 monthly.

[desert ivy]

You have 2+ years to save enough to pay $15 a month. Shouldn't be too hard

[crimson mulch]

15$ is 200 my currency

lmao

[unreal zealot]

your region might get harmonized pricing but atm there no solid info on it if its even going to happen for every region with currency conversion issues

[crimson mulch]

what do you mean harmonized pricing ?

i will let you know that average monthly wage here is less than what is worth of 200$

[desert ivy]

If they add servers for other regions after launch (current servers are just NA, EU, OCE, SEA), those servers may have harmonized pricing. So if they add a server for South America, you won't pay $15 a month, rather maybe only $5 a month but you will be confined to the server you're paying that pricing for.

So if you pay the $5, you won't be able to play on any other server except the $5 one

[crimson mulch]

i will be down to take that

[steady ocean]

@crimson mulch You would pay what would be considered 15 in your region, for example

[crimson mulch]

not like many server jumpers exist

15 my currency is .9 $

if they make an african server that would be nice

im from egypt

[steady ocean]

It could be that that is the case. You would just have to follow the accompanying server restriction. We will know more details closer to launch.

[crimson mulch]

or a middle east server

that would be so great yea , a lot of people would be down to pay 50 (my currency)for the game tho

[compact cape]

Does any of the pre order packs include the actual game when it's released?

[onyx knoll]

They all do, along with some subscription time

(technically the game itself is free, you only need to pay the sub)

[unreal zealot]

free to download but pay to play

[ionic coral]

I assume that means all new content will also not be behind a “box price”?

[formal zinc]

correct

[steady ocean]

All will fall under the sub cost

[glacial walrus]

:cheers:

[latent fog]

Will there be any PVP options between religions?

[glacial walrus]

up to the players

[reef osprey]

@latent fog we don't know much about the religions yet.
There might be

incentivized pvp between them

[latent fog]

Ok thanks. Just thought that might be interesting.

[reef osprey]

but we will have to wait, don't get your hopes up

[glacial walrus]

its very interesting

[latent fog]

More than just mindless pvp

[glacial walrus]

i think after taking a look at pvp mechanics, there is going to be a LOT of passionate pvp encounters @latent fog

[crystal beacon]

There are several meaningful pvp options.

[latent fog]

Sounds good.

[primal delta]

And PvE still plays an important roll

So overs fear not from the PvP aspects

Gah. Pvers

[untold schooner]

will node wars prevent you from travelling with the transit system between nodes?

[reef osprey]

no information on that yet.
but probably, would be stupid if you could just quicker travel into the enemy's capital lol

[untold schooner]

ya i agree

[crystal beacon]

Are we getting spooky cosmetics this October or more elemental stuff?

[onyx knoll]

we'll know a few days before the pack drops

[wet quarry]

Hello, who should I talk to regarding some dev requirements and advice?

[onyx knoll]

dev requirements? are you looking to apply for a job at Intrepid?

[wet quarry]

I'm not qualified yet and I am also from EU. Maybe in the future, but I want to know some things.

[full badger]

Probably best to send them an email then

[e-mail]

[wet quarry]

And to talk with someone who will guide me regarding what I need based on my experience already (which is not gaming right now)

@full badger I think I will just disturb the people there since I can't work for Intrepid right now. I was looking for a talk with someone here.

[onyx knoll]

Feel free to try asking in #general-discussion, maybe there is someone who has some experience in the industry that could help you

[wet quarry]

@onyx knoll since I'm in EU, I think they will have dev positions sometime in the future. I kind of want to prepare for that if possible, that's why I want someone who knows the ins and outs I guess. Maybe I will just send an email after all...

Thanks for the help everyone

[lean current]

@wet quarry Is there a particular topic you are interested about? Their careers page has the requirements for some of the jobs listed there: https://intrepidstudios.com/careers

[wet quarry]

I looked there before coming here.

I want to know what's the closest thing to what I know now. That's why I wanted to talk to someone who knows some software development stuff.

[onyx knoll]

You're welcome to discuss it with others here, but please take it to one of the discussion channels 🙂

[wet quarry]

Ok, thanks.

[lone magnet]

how many people are currently working on ashes of creation

[lean current]

we don't know the number exactly, but between 50 and 100, more leaning to 100

[high yew]

Is AoC playable right now? Beta / Alpha?

[desert ivy]

Only if you spent $1k+

[lone magnet]

when did aoc started developing?

[desert ivy]

Actual game development started in 2017

[full badger]

@lone magnet Intrepid studios was founded in December 2015, and they started planning for the game in early 2016.

[lone magnet]

did they use this site to do the current map on the wiki? https://de.ashesofcreation.wiki/World_size#/media/File:map2.jpg
https://inkarnate.com/#gall

[crystal beacon]

I don't think we have that type of information...

[lone magnet]

well looks similar

[sly monolith]

confused by the stream... steven said alpha 1 end of this year... while i was under the impression this month?

[desert ivy]

This month is for Leader of Men holders

Basically pre-alpha testing

Actual full A1 starts late fall

for all A1 pack holders

[sly monolith]

k thx

[crystal beacon]

It could be this October... It could be this December

[lone magnet]

I was thinking to buy it but afraid it is a scam like no man sky at the start a lot of promises and none kept

[desert ivy]

Then wait

You don't need to "buy" anything

[crystal beacon]

Like Steven said, just wait for release or Beta, there is no need to spent money on.

[desert ivy]

No Man Sky also wasn't a scam

[lone magnet]

3 years later it wasn't

[crystal beacon]

Well, false advertising, but it delivered in the end

Like most games

[peak wasp]

alpha 1 was said fall, lots of people are thinking start of fall for some dumb reason, fall ends dec 21

[crystal beacon]

Just look at ESO, Final Fantasy, Destiny, etc.

[fringe radish]

I've heard No Man's Sky is much better now but honestly the damage is done for me 🤷‍♀️

[crystal beacon]

See past the hate

[potent thunder]

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[digital yacht]

@spiral zinc what did u mean? The wiki is fan made the map isn’t

[spiral fiber]

Have they said anything about a potential release date? I do know Alpha 1 is late this fall, so I would assume the game would probably come out 2022, is there any scrap of info on a release or just a wait and see sort of deal. (Because this game seems amazing)

[digital yacht]

They have given no dates and will not give any dates any time soon

[spiral fiber]

Ight thanks

[digital yacht]

We will prob get hard dates after alpha 2 launches

That would be my opinion

[spiral fiber]

Yea I’ll assume 2022

[digital yacht]

Mid 2022 - Early 2023

[crystal beacon]

It is a good guess, most of us will be able to play beta

[spiral fiber]

Hopefully some form of a beta is in 2021

[digital yacht]

A2 will be in 2021

[desert ivy]

Doubt we'll get into beta in 2021 tbh

[digital yacht]

They are going with the REAL beta which means a week of testing before launch basically

[crystal beacon]

But you see there are two betas.

[tropic sandal]

a1 a2 b1 b2 release

[desert ivy]

Alpha 1 and 2 are going to be the large majority of testing. Betas are basically going to be small tests (in comparison to A1/2) which will probably be for marketing/minor bug fixes and balance tweaks

[spiral pine]

a real beta should be atleast 2 weeks

[full badger]

Hey guys, let's leave the speculation out of the questions channel please. Feel free to discuss theories, etc in the #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion channels

[digital yacht]

Beta will basically be what talents said with some stress test involved

It won’t be month long tests that’s what alphas are for

[spiral fiber]

Well hopefully I don’t forget about this game in 2-3 years 🙂

[heavy karma]

Just wondering, Alpha Two will still be available for purchase for a while correct? I just noticed that Alpha One got removed recently from the packs.

[full badger]

We'll be given plenty of notice before they stop Alpha 2 sales

[west gate]

any chance of them reopening sales of alpha 1?

[heavy karma]

Did I miss the announcement of removal of Alpha 1 access in packs? Because - and I might be wrong - a week ago it was still for sale?

[full badger]

@west gate If they need more testers for Alpha 1, they may open up sales for it again, but this is only a possibility

@heavy karma Alpha 1 sales went away some time ago

[onyx knoll]

One week ago deff didn't have alpha 1 for sale

[heavy karma]

Alright, then my bad. I really want Alpha Two access but right now 250$ isnt that easy so I hope its still up for a lil bit :p

[west gate]

@full badger cheers for the quick reply, hopefully its announced so ppl who are interested dont miss it 🙂

[heavy karma]

Just couldnt really find about the headsup of alpha 1 removal but I guess. Its atleast not in the news

[digital yacht]

A2 will prob be for sale until it ends as its a persistent test testers will always be needed

[full badger]

@heavy karma It was announced back in 2018

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/2018-08-07_Newsletter#Development_Update.2C_Last_Call_for_Alpha_One_Sales.2C_and_Live_Stream.2FPanel_Info_Below.21

[heavy karma]

oh wow, nvm then 🙂

[crystal beacon]

This isnt accurate anymore though, no?

Since name reservation in alpha 1 makes no sense

[silver mulch]

Can siege weapons be used in anything beyond castle or node sieges?

[dark jungle]

might be able to be used in guild wars perhaps

they talked about siegable guild fortresses with those

[hexed stratus]

siege weapon usage in field battles would be pretty cool

[long yoke]

will we be getting a darker cosmetic pack like the one from october 2019 anytime soon? im planning to get the voyager plus pack but im waiting for a pack that has cosmetics like the corvid castigator and prowler of perdition before i drop $300+ on it

[unreal zealot]

its likely but they also said their focusing on element theme so it might be wind/thunder themed but that can be spooky as well unless they save it for november

[long yoke]

heres hoping for darkness element lol

[unreal zealot]

they've done earth and water so far september is fire and october or november will be wind i don't think they will do any other elements after,

[long yoke]

oof

guess ill just have to be patient and hope one comes before alpha 2 starts

[unreal zealot]

they have done darker themes before anyway that aren't related. im sure there will be more

[long yoke]

yeah i looked through the past packs, lots of really cool ones that fit my taste but none since i started waiting a few months ago

[tepid harbor]

didn't someone say they where leaked and it was fire foxes ?

[unreal zealot]

yeh september will be fire

[normal lodge]

Any ideas on what the 75$ pack will look like in September

[digital yacht]

We should see them all in a day or two

[normal lodge]

Oh sick

Thanks

[near horizon]

Is the stock exchange limited to economic nodes?

[digital yacht]

If ur asking if we have to be a citizen to use it I’m not 100% sure (tbf I dk what the stock exchange is)

[near horizon]

no, I'm asking if the stock exchange will be limited to economic nodes. You know how auction houses can only be build in Economic nodes. I'm wondering if the same applies to the stock exchange

[surreal elk]

@near horizon hasnt been stated yet at least that I'm aware of. Limited information on the stock exchange really have only been given a few examples such as investing in guilds etc.

[oak depot]

@long yoke AFAIK “darkness” is not a confirmed element in game yet

[lavish tartan]

Will there be any AFK activities like that in BDO?

[dark jungle]

no

[lavish tartan]

👍

[surreal horizon]

I was wondering if anyone had an answer for me on this, because it's a recent thing Steven said in a Q&A that slightly worries me. Every MMO has an issue with the lifespan of content. Look at World of Warcraft for instance, at any given time only the most recent zones and forms of content are rewarded in almost any serious way and they haven't found a way to reliably solve this problem. How does this relate to ashes? Bc Steven said that dungeons will be unlocked if they fall into a parent node or subservient node's ZOI, meaning that potentially every server could still end up unlocking the same dungeons if eventually all the same areas/dungeons are under SOMEWHERE'S ZOI.

So doesn't that actually take away some of the meaning of the dynamic world and make it much less likely people will ever need to demolish cities to make somewhere else a metropolis?

TLDR: Eventually every server will be able to have all the same content if this theory holds, regardless where the metropoli are* or what stages different nodes may be because they'll eventually all cover the same area.

[unreal zealot]

very unlikely to happen tbh, the whole server would have to find out what zoi influence what and where to make sure they get the most content and then work together, just finding everything out in ashes will take ages

let alone the server working together

[surreal horizon]

But you see where I'm coming from and we all know the famous phrase 'players will, given the opportunity, optimize the fun out of a game'

@unreal zealot

[flat widget]

You can't optimize it unless you know what every dungeon drops and how to unlock it all

[unreal zealot]

yeh i see but its a problem that isnt really an issue until the games been out for long enough for all that info to be avaliable

[flat widget]

Which is going to be very hard to do

[unreal zealot]

and intrepid will be adding content before all that becomes an issue

[surreal horizon]

What I'm saying is, is it possible that regardless of the makeup or node distribution in the world that eventually they'll all occupy the same zones?

[flat widget]

Yeah but there are different triggers

[lilac osprey]

But if in every dungeon you get some form of BiS gear then player would always strive to be able to access all dungeons. And BiS Gear is only one form of "reward". They could come up with totally different rewards. They could even make the rewards better, if a dungeon was closed for a while.

[flat widget]

Not every server will activate the same triggers

[unreal zealot]

best we take this to #aoc-discussion now as thats what it's becoming

[surreal horizon]

Okay, my apologies.

[silver mulch]

Will two master crafters be the same?

[hexed stratus]

im reading the wiki and i saw "Guild size can be traded off for guild progression" in the guild progression area and i was wondering how much can be traded off

[lilac osprey]

I think it depends on the blueprints they unlock @silver mulch

[long yoke]

@oak depot i know, i was making a joke but also kinda hoping it would turn out to be true anyway. though we do have "shadow" element to some degree visually with shadow caster so maybe that would count

[silver mulch]

So there isn't a level up tree within blacksmithing?

[crystal beacon]

Hello everyone, first message here. It has been mentioned that players will be able to choose whether they want their in-node house to evolve with the node or not. Is there any disadvantage in having a bigger house that would push players to decide to stop their progression ?

[unreal zealot]

money and tax

[surreal horizon]

I'm back from the discussion channel. Don't go there.

and yes, money and tax.

[crystal beacon]

So the progression to the next level won't be free ?

[unreal zealot]

i dont know tbh if its as you say and you can hold it off to keep a smaller house and not a mansion then as far as im aware your tax would be bigger for a bigger house to the node.

i dont know alot about the in node housings

[crystal beacon]

https://youtu.be/Rjq0_rmgxPM?t=1431 When the option is mentioned

[unreal zealot]

he doesnt really specify what it woudl cost to upgrade but i can imagine if it was to cost anything it would be gold or materials

[rancid hamlet]

Where the taxes gonna go? To the maior or the node?

[unreal zealot]

they go into the nodes treasury that the mayor can use for node buildings and defense

[placid vessel]

The mayor doesn't pocket taxes.

[tepid harbor]

would be a lot funnier if they did

[silver mulch]

@placid vessel did the mayor tell you that?

[lilac osprey]

But then I think the node is also taxed right? There was something about caravanes going from the child nodes to parent nodes carrying the nodes taxes.

[tepid harbor]

I actually kinda mean that. Maybe that is the wrong comparison, but eve has great entertainment value because of the backstab factor

[placid vessel]

@silver mulch It was confirmed in a dev stream awhile back.

[dull sandal]

the mayor bribed the devs

[ionic coral]

Has a max level been confirmed or at least a rough idea of time investment to reach “max”. Also, I saw in the forums they used to do giveaways. Is that still a thing? I am interested in playing but can’t drop the money to get into an alpha

[desert ivy]

Max level is 50. They want it to take around 45 days of playing 4-6 hours a day to reach max. They don't do giveaways for alpha keys. However there will probably be giveaways for beta 2 keys when it happens

[somber kindle]

any expected year for the game release?

[onyx knoll]

Only guesses by the community, nothing official

[somber kindle]

Whats your guess

[grizzled oasis]

~2022 is community guestimation

[desert ivy]

2022/23 generally

[deft jay]

nooooo i catching blizzard vibes

[tawdry swallow]

When can we expect Alpha 1 testing to start? and will be video footage be under NDA or is it a free for all Buffet?

[onyx knoll]

sometime late fall

The NDA will be removed for alpha 1

[tawdry swallow]

Good, Excellent.

[dull sandal]

How does one get to play Alpha 1? 👀

[onyx knoll]

Currently you can't, unless you backed the kickstarter in 2017. They might re-open the alpha 1 sales if they feel they need more people later

[crystal beacon]

I’m assuming they will give streamers codes for the alpha one too

[tawdry swallow]

Its seems okay to me for streamers to gain free access, marketing is good

[crystal beacon]

I mean codes to giveaway

Whenever they need more testers

Similar to how valorant did their beta

[unreal zealot]

they wil lgive away beta codes but not alhpa

[onyx knoll]

As far as we know they have no intention of doing viewer giveaways for alpha, tho they have mentionned it for beta

[crystal beacon]

We’ll see what they do when they need more testers in the alpha

[digital yacht]

A1 has 10k testers

alone

we wonmt need more lol

A2 prob another 20k+

[meager yarrow]

Was just typing that same thing

[crystal beacon]

Question: so tomorrow since it is a new month, there will be new pre-order packagers on the website?

[west turtle]

10k players wont test though

10k keys sold doesnt mean 10k will test

[digital yacht]

think it changes on the 2nd or 4th @crystal beacon

[crystal beacon]

Thanks

[digital yacht]

@west turtle considering Alpha island is only supposed to house under 1k ppl A1 should be fine initially

[crystal beacon]

That’s why I said we will see

[desert ivy]

Plus why would they give them away when they can just sell the keys

[tulip ember]

Usually they announce the cosmetics 2-3 days ahead. Hmm

[digital yacht]

August 5, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific until September 2, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific.

new cosmetics after the 2nd

[final oxide]

How customizable will things made such as swords? Like different blade types gaurds ect

[tawdry swallow]

Asmongold is definitely joining Alpha

am okay with that

[charred timber]

I see that if i preorder, i get access to alpha 2. but when is that happening?

[steady ocean]

Sometime during 2021 most likely.

[charred timber]

damn

[ruby swift]

@west turtle considering Alpha island is only supposed to house under 1k ppl A1 should be fine initially
@digital yacht Alpha Island will be used during the pre-ramp up to A1 release. A1 itself will be on a much larger map as announced previously.

[digital yacht]

gotcha

[hexed stratus]

How do the referrals work?

[ruby swift]

How do the referrals work?
@hexed stratus https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program

[hexed stratus]

So each referral contributes 15%?

[ruby swift]

Of what they pay. Just creating dummy referrals gains you nothing.

[hexed stratus]

I see

[final oxide]

Does the current pre order pack end today

[whole dawn]

i think the 2ns

2nd

[ruby swift]

The 2nd at 11am pst. The cosmetics swap. Not the pack benefits.

[uneven heart]

So I’m super new to the community and definitely interested in participating in the alphas and betas, how soon is this available to a new person like myself?

[sonic lantern]

^ this

[whole dawn]

not for a while, alpha 1 will start in a couple months, but the package to get into that is no longer available. Im guessing alpha 2 will probably take place fall 2021

[sonic lantern]

^big sadtimes

[hollow terrace]

Alpha 1 has no NDA though right?

[crystal beacon]

Alpha 1 has no nda

[digital yacht]

when A1 fully comes out there will be no NDA any testings atm from PI and LoM are under NDA still

[hollow terrace]

I'd love to play but at the same time watching gameplay and seeing if the game is what I'm looking for will be nice

So I'm not that fussed tbh

[lusty kite]

@hollow terrace yes, just watch what the A1 content creators and streamers show. No need to purchase anything yet.

[hollow terrace]

If I see it and know I'm gonna like it I'll then think about putting money into it.

[crystal beacon]

Will mounts and/or pets be dyable or able to have their colors changed in any way

[junior pagoda]

Do we know how dark nights will be?

[lusty kite]

I don't believe you can dye your mounts or pets. You will be able to obtain different skins for both

[crystal beacon]

):

Oh well

[sharp harbor]

@junior pagoda i think like bdo dark or just a bit brighter

[cold fractal]

When castles get captured by a guild, will that castle ever be ran by NPC again?

[unreal zealot]

i dont see anything on the wiki unless someone else knows it would be a good question to ask during the q&a at the end of september for the dev update

[tropic sandal]

@cold fractal I highly doubt it

Unless castles have the same decay system nodes do

[unreal zealot]

but it all depends on the population of the server as well because they will be contested constantly every month

[tropic sandal]

which hasn't ever been hinted at or said

But as of right now from what info we have if nobody contests your castle it just stays yours until someone does.

[cold fractal]

Kinda feel like if it ever went back to NPC controlled it reset to “fair” game.

[tropic sandal]

True, but why would that ever happen?

[unreal zealot]

im pretty sure it will have its own upkeep as a gold and material sink every month so it would be a possibility to degrade when you dont pay those costs.

but we dont know i doubt it would turn out like that

[tropic sandal]

The only upkeep they've told us Castles will have is the preparation for the next seige

And that's not really upkeep

If you're doing upkeep and prep that's kind of a little much

[cold fractal]

It was just a thought I had while watching the video, some people might find it more do able to capture it from npc than the top guild of the server

[tropic sandal]

Castles are a 4-week rotation system
Day 0 - Capture
Week 1 - Build up node 1
Week 2 - Build up node 2
Week 3 - Build up node 3
Week 4 - Defend Castle
If defend successfuly, reset cycle
If lose, winner starts the cycle

[unreal zealot]

the game is designed around pvp so it makes sense the way they are doing it

[cold fractal]

More of a curiosity than a concern

[tepid harbor]

It kinda makes sense tho. The castles are high in prestidge, so only to most accomplished should be able to get them

[tropic sandal]

Yea there's no reason for a fair fight when it comes to castles

If the defending guild is better they deserve it

The attackers just need to plan better or gain more allies

[unreal zealot]

i think it would be cool to have smaller points of pvp in the future like Towers or Military camps that add more guild pvp

[tropic sandal]

Or disrupt the prep weeks

[exotic narwhal]

It'll be interesting to see how streamers and their pods work this..

[cold fractal]

I suppose, I guess once that “Monarch” is dead it will never Respawn, so I hope someone takes a picture of them for the history books lol

[tropic sandal]

Because you can interfere with their preperations. You can intefere with week 1-3, and during week 4 you can pillage the tax caravans that send gold to the castle for them to hire guards and such

[unreal zealot]

like a fortress with 4 towers in it's zoi you can capture them from the fortress owners making it cheaper for the siege scroll for the fortress each tower could be a guild war objective to go after the fortress so its smaller battles that can use tatics and cause the bigger guild in fortress to split their forces to try and keep the towers.

[shell fox]

Just heard about a test for leader of men / phoenix initiative that was scheduled for the end of August. Anyone have any info on that for me? Has that happened?

[tulip hatch]

Information related to those tests are under NDA until they have been publicly stated by the developers

so until then we have no information we can provide to the public

[shell fox]

Sorry no, I have the leader of men pack. I was hoping to participate.

[tulip hatch]

If you need access to the channels you need to submit a ticket for an NDA if you recently upgraded

[shell fox]

I've had it since the Kickstarter. So I wouldn't have received an email about it? How should I go about submitting a ticket, thank you.

[tulip hatch]

Im not sure if all LoM received access to the testing or if its only a group of them
Id have to get back to you on that

you can use that link to submit a ticket

[shell fox]

Hmmm, okay. Thank you.

[tulip hatch]

Youre welcome, ill ask about the access and get back to you

[shell fox]

I appreciate it. Big help

[tulip hatch]

@shell fox Go ahead and submit that ticket

[sonic lantern]

how is everyone here a cutie? (meme question no ban pls)

[shell fox]

@tulip hatch all done, thanks again for the help.

[merry cradle]

Anyone know the scope of naval gameplay? I know there’ll be caravans and some combat. But will there be entire quests or stories for the sea?

[crystal beacon]

Well I know there's treasure hunting apparently. Along with island and coast nodes. Seeing as quests relate a bit on location, it isnt entirely the most unreasonable to assume that there will be naval quests.

[winter parrot]

Perhaps I just missed it but... What exactly is a Certificate?

Certificate, as in a loot reward for a kill

[unreal zealot]

animal fur, claws, bones things you sell

[winter parrot]

A Certificate is a generic term used by developers instead of the term loot?

[unreal zealot]

certificates are what hold the mobs value as they dont drop gold

but yes

[trail wigeon]

Hello, I was wondering if the game has or will have a south America server, ty for reading c:!

[winter parrot]

Thanks

[unreal zealot]

they can drop swords and stuff as well i think so tha is probably the difference between loot and certificate

[crystal beacon]

@trail wigeon if there are enough players in the region, yes

[trail wigeon]

ty for the info c:, I hope it does

[crystal beacon]

Speaking of servers, can the game actually handle 10k users a server?

That is what alpha is for

Testing gameplay before beta/release, likely also to gain traction on the game seeing as the next alpha will be no nda

[unreal zealot]

its more about them wanting to get as much feedback as possible thats why they are so open with the development

[crystal beacon]

^

[unreal zealot]

but its a double edged sword

[crystal beacon]

If its bad, with no nda

Itll do poorly for them

So they're very confident in their game to go into alpha with no NDA

[unreal zealot]

i wouldnt say they are over confident if they could go back on no nda on alphas they probably would but they already dug that hole years ago

[desert ivy]

10k users isn't exactly an enormous number

MMORPGs have done it before

The real challenge is the 250v250 or 500v500s

[crystal beacon]

What I'm more concerned about is their talk about 10k users in each server. Unless I misunderstood something

[desert ivy]

That's the thing to be concerned about the least

[crystal beacon]

Well that doesnt help me though

Can you tell me why I shouldn't be concerned?

[unreal zealot]

how so? many mmos have multiple servers that can hold that much

[crystal beacon]

A single server holding 10k.

[desert ivy]

Yes

[crystal beacon]

That's my understanding of it.

[unreal zealot]

yes

and mmo's have loads of seperate servers

[desert ivy]

Now, of course it will probably be laggy day 1 when you have 2000 people logging in at the exact same spot, but as they spread out it's easier for the servers to deal with it.

[unreal zealot]

yeh thats the same for many mmo's with hype around them

[spiral fiber]

MMOS have been doing that for awhile like they said I think that’s something I wouldn’t worry so much about but @desert ivy is right the 250v250 and 500v500 is something I’m worried about I imagine it will be a slide show

[sonic lantern]

i think the tera battlegrounds were 60/60 and was a slide show most times

[spiral fiber]

New worlds has 50v50 and it can barely handle that

Those huge 250v250 stuff is really the only thing I’m not sure they can pull off

[dark jungle]

yep, thats why they are testing it in alpha 1

[unreal zealot]

they have people who worked on a game with massive pvp games cant remember it's name, but theve been doing the network code and stuff

stevens already said they are confident of 250v250 but want to try and push it higher

[spiral fiber]

Planetside is the game

[crystal beacon]

Never played planetside. Was it as graphically flashy as this game is?

And or what engine was it on

[spiral fiber]

I’m not so sure tbh I played planetside 2 but i don’t remember exactly what it looked like

It was by no means a bad looking game

But it was very laggy at times

[crystal beacon]

When did it come out? I feel that would give us a good idea of how things might have improved to allow them to do this now with confidence

[trim roost]

I played planetside two, it was pretty medium graphics wise.

[spiral fiber]

Planetside 2 is a old game by now

[desert ivy]

Planetside 2 released in 2012

[trim roost]

^

[spiral fiber]

Yea it’s old

[crystal beacon]

Bro Talents you had me fucked up for a second

[unreal zealot]

also aoc will have defalt player models for sieges just to make it run smoother

[crystal beacon]

Boring but practical

[spiral fiber]

The 250 stuff is something I’m holding my breath on I’m not expecting greatness in that regard

[trim roost]

I mean if they can just handle most of the future issues that could be associated with it, I figure a good portion of players will be able to run it. Not me but yaknow

[crystal beacon]

Perhaps they have isolated servers for those instances to separate it and provide dedicated hardware

Unless it whole ass is just

You all roll up in the main server

[spiral fiber]

Most of the time things like that come down to servers

But everything else they have said I think is completely doable and I think they will deliver on everything else but I’m a bit skeptical on the big stuff

[trim roost]

I think it would be a good idea to have a separate server for those instances, but it would be pretty fuckin hot to just roll up on a siege with 250 peeps, lol

[crystal beacon]

Considering I've never seen any of this work before/seen it working, my hope is it just doesnt Anthem itself.

[spiral fiber]

Who knows it’s a small team with huge ambitions anything could happen

Games probably 2 years out anyway

[crystal beacon]

Indeed but with how transparent they've been, I think itll do well

[trim roost]

Agreed

[spiral fiber]

If it succeeds it’s the biggest MMO since WOW

I never played wow growing up I’d low a new mmo to play and I hope this is it

[crystal beacon]

And easily better lol

I played WoW growing up

Till I hit level 20

[spiral fiber]

I played Xbox and Halo as a kid

[crystal beacon]

Multiple times

Honestly WoW was good but it just felt really dull

Granted I only got to level 20 but still

It was just bland.

[sand dust]

You missed 99% of the game if you only got to 20 ;p

[crystal beacon]

Shrug

Never felt like spending money on something that didnt retain me.

[spiral fiber]

Yea I wouldn’t call WOW dull that game won’t die until blizzard kills it

[crystal beacon]

;p

Lmao Blizzard kinda not poggers

[spiral fiber]

Ashes as much as I love it won’t take the world by storm like WOW did either

[crystal beacon]

I figure itll be an isolated number of people, or in the best case, a slow growth with occasional increases

Remember #questions is for questions.

And #aoc-discussion is for discussion of aoc lol

Exactly

[quick thorn]

speaking about servers, are there any plans to have servers on central standard time cst ? i got a bunch of people in guild that are from all over north america so central makes the best sense for us...just curious

[desert ivy]

There will be both East and West US servers, Central servers are currently under consideration but not guaranteed

[green pilot]

When will alpha 1 start? I can’t wait until we can watch streamers start to actually play the game.

[desert ivy]

Late fall

[real ice]

On the Intrepid Studios store page....how do referrals work? Do I and the referred individual get benefits. I see there is a 15%...but what does that mean?

[desert ivy]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program

Basically if you refer someone, anything they spend you get 15% of in Intrepid bucks which can be converted to in-game cosmetic currency, can be used to reduce your sub cost, and can also be used to get real life money

So the more people you sub, the better

[normal lodge]

Can you enter a referral code after your account is made?

[rugged knoll]

this game doesnt allow mods right?

[hexed stratus]

reduces sub cost permanently?

or just for that month?

[desert ivy]

@normal lodge No
@rugged knoll No
@hexed stratus No just for the months you actively use the Intrepid bucks to reduce the sub cost.

[hexed stratus]

thought so

[rugged knoll]

no to my question or no it doesnt xD

[desert ivy]

Mods won't be allowed

[rugged knoll]

POG

thanks

[quick thorn]

makes sense , if they allow mods, that allows people to open source ways to gain advantages

[rugged knoll]

mods to me are an unfair advantage and tends to ruin games

mmo wise

[quick thorn]

the use of 3rd party programs does ruin games and takes the skill and fun out of a game, being theres no skill required to play the game if theres a software doing it for you

[polar nymph]

Mods are not 3rd party programs

And this is not the discussion channel

[quasi whale]

Hello, I have a question. Is there any way to get early access pass for free? Or they will be only for those who buy PRE-ORDER packs?

[desert ivy]

There will be giveaways for beta 2 keys in the far future. Other than that no

[quasi whale]

Thanks 🙂

[ripe dagger]

Any update on Alpha One dates for Intrepid Pack buyers? The link above hasn't seen an update since July 6th and I can't find any other dates, just "late fall", which is fairly vague.

[desert ivy]

Still only late fall

[quasi whale]

Yo, better later than never i guess

[forest pike]

A1 will release by Dec 21st @ripe dagger

[digital yacht]

^ don’t tell him an exact date becuz no one knows for sure DO NOT GIVE DATES IF U AINT A DEV

[arctic sky]

o.O its been said by the end of fall

and that is the last day of fall

[crystal beacon]

Big brain

[grim breach]

And we know how it usually is in here with dates. Play safe, just saying.

[waxen folio]

In moment like these, my inner self is struggling with waiting for AoC to go into beta.
Why does New World think that gear dropping should be level-locked and you get full xp only by hitting the mob once, even if you're in a party?
edit: just to be clear - i don't want to say anything bad towards anyone and i'm legit curious about the possible arguments about locking gear-drop.

[steady ocean]

What exactly is your question @waxen folio

[waxen folio]

What would be a possible argument to lock gear dropping in certain levels. if you're lvl 15, you CANNOT get lvl 25 gear from mob drops, even if you're killing lvl 25-40 mobs.
i'm sorry if my question is blurry

[undone magnet]

That's not so much a question about Ashes of creations rather than a topic for discussion.
Only argument I could see for level locked drops is so you always get gear you can use.

[raw gyro]

hey i got a new question bout names. We know theirs gonna be first and last names, but will their be middle names available as well?

[small pecan]

Haven’t heard anything about middle names afaik!

But I feel like it’s unlikely given how far they’ve gone without mention

[dull crow]

does being killed lose EXP? and if so cant players be camped back to lvl 1?

[small pecan]

You incur negative exp but you can not lose levels! So you can be camped to a lot of debt but not lvl 1

[dull crow]

ahh i see, so your paying off the debt before you can continue leveling

[full badger]

Correct

[crystal beacon]

Do you have to have a first and a last name

Or is last name optional?

[plucky temple]

!ticket

[south brook]

When we log into the world for the first time will it tell us how to play like an intro guide to the game or do we have to learn everything on our own like how Minecraft does it?

Also will there be quest right away or do we have to unlock quest at stage 1 of the node?

[grim breach]

@crystal beacon First name and optional surname.

[crystal beacon]

@grim breach ❤️

[forest pike]

@south brook if I remember correctly there's gonna be a starting area before the entrance through the gates there you'll be introduced to the mechanics and stuff but I'm not sure it's still the plan

[brittle ferry]

4 divine gateways that you can start at, you don't have to stay and complete that content in order to proceed to other areas

[late pulsar]

you'll be able to get more quests, but im pretty sure they said you start with a racial questline

[full badger]

@south brook We don't have a lot of details regarding the very start of the game. We have no idea what the opening quests or tutorial will look like. What we do know is that each race has a dedicated divine gateway and starting zone, but you are free to choose whichever gateway you like (so you can meet up with friends, etc). After that there will be quests to do, but these will be optional and you can choose to move out of the starting zone straight away.

[cerulean surge]

quick question does anyone know the starting number of guilds before points can be allocated to allow more members?

[full badger]

@cerulean surge We don't right now, sorry

[cerulean surge]

@full badger thanks had a look but couldnt find anything hope we get some info

[potent thunder]

** Issued a chat clarification - Utilize channels for their purpose **

See pinned post in each channel for discussion topics.

[lone magnet]

How many people bought the 375 pack ?

[foggy elm]

Sorry for the newb question but, what are embers?

[spiral pine]

Intrepids store currency

[glacial walrus]

@foggy elm it’s for the cosmetic only store

[foggy elm]

Ohh okay thanks

[oak depot]

^ out-of-date now... It's September

[grim breach]

What's outdated? Leader of Men testing is not the actual A1 testing that you're thinking of.

[oak depot]

the information in the link is outdated

it doesn't give any info on things after August... so it's basically uninformative info

[grim breach]

It will be updated when they update it.

And wait for August's CD letter. If there is any new update regarding the playtest anyway.

[civic terrace]

@grim breach how do you know there is going to be a CD letter?

[grim breach]

Right, forgot the letter is a quarterly (?) thing. I meant the monthly newsletter.

[civic terrace]

where do you register for newsletter cant find it on website

[grim breach]

https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360031794113-How-can-I-sign-up-for-the-newsletter-

[civic terrace]

cheers mate

[latent fog]

Thanks scapegoat. I wondered that myself.

[oblique shale]

When is the new pack of cosmetics gonna be up. The current one is suppose to be down tomorrow? They haven’t released the new info yet? Just the leaks from Steven

[split crest]

2nd September

[novel ice]

Do we really need any more cosmetics? I just would rather them close all of that for ingame stuff until launch

[oblique shale]

So they will announce the new cosmetic the day it goes now the site? Seem out of the norm for them. They normally announce like a week before

[desert ivy]

No they will probably announce the cosmetics today

then release them tomorrow

[oblique shale]

I figured but normally they announce ahead of time

[paper river]

Any plans to have a server in Brazil?

I understand, but if we don't have a server here at launch and I pay at the NA price, can I play on the NA servers? from Brazil.

Thanks, Unfortunately not everyone in Brazil can afford to pay the NA price because of our country's economic issues and we've a large number of MMO players here. So it will be great to have servers in Brazil, but I understand that it's not a priority right now.

[oblique shale]

Does anyone have info on classes that aren’t tank mage cleric? Like even like a basic run down of the other classes?

[chilly hedge]

Only what's on the wiki, and even that is not reliable info at this point.

[oblique shale]

Damn. I figured.

Im curious about the summoner. Dps or support or both l

[cursive dock]

From how the Summoner wiki page reads, they appear to be a jack-of-all-trades with various summons able to perform tank, dps, or support functions.

[oblique shale]

Yes but we all know ashes is about “choices “ so I’m guessing you can spec for dps or support or a mix

[cursive dock]

Right, you'll likely be able to spec more towards one or mix all three to be somewhat well rounded based on skill trees. Summoners can have up to three summons so its not hard to believe you could have a solo summoner with all three role types supporting them as they roam

[oblique shale]

Where did you see the 3 summons at? Just curious

[cursive dock]

I've been referring to this wiki page for Summoner - https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner
You can find a breakdown of all classes from here - https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes

or at least what details are available at this time, as some of the pages don't have much at all. I'd also imagine that some details are likely to change as balances are made and the game is finalized after various rounds of playtesting.

[oblique shale]

Oh 100%

[errant chasm]

so tomorrow the store changes right? do we have a picture of all the stuff being added?

[unreal zealot]

only the two that were leaked

but we shoudl get a news post later on i think

[tulip ember]

No full preview of September pack yet?

[versed grove]

Have they mentioned if there will be a bank system at all?

[stray reef]

Can someone link what has been leaked so far as far as the september pack?

[sand dust]

Big day tomorrow, September pack should be put up I believe and the Dune movie trailer released 🍆

[dim bramble]

So, i have the voyager package for 250$. If they decide to sell alpha 1 keys in near future, how much would the upgrade cost?

[onyx knoll]

@dim bramble last time the alpha 1 pack was for sale it was 500$, so I expect it will probably be the same if they decide to re-open the sales for it, in which case it would cost you an other 250$ to upgrade.

[dim bramble]

thanks

[onyx knoll]

@versed grove As far as I know the only bank systems are related to housing, you can build chests in your houses that you can store gear/mats in

[versed grove]

Ok so the cities themselves won’t have a “bank” per say however you can craft a (bank) “chest” in your house to store goods. Thanks! @onyx knoll

[onyx knoll]

Not that I know of, there was mention of some sort of guild storage in guild halls too

I think there might be an other in-node thing, but i'm not sure if it's a permanent solution, it's been mentioned as something you can use to transfer things to alts

[tall stream]

would be interesting to be able to make banks in economic nodes

[onyx knoll]

@versed grove Ah wait nvm, I wasn't certain so I looked it up, it does seem like there has been some mention of Banking NPCs
"Nodes advance to the first stage quickly. This enables NPC services such as vending or banking items.[24]"

[silver mulch]

What ever happened to death proxy? Wasn't he a big youtuber for ashes?

[desert ivy]

Well... he got perma banned from here

[silver mulch]

Yeah that'll do it
What did he do?

[untold schooner]

go in general discusiion

[waxen gate]

A

[latent fog]

If someone wanted to stream/youtube AoC after NDA is lifted would they have any issues with strikes, blocked, etc? For in game content/music?

[desert ivy]

No

[latent fog]

👍

[lavish tartan]

Any news on whether AoC will support ray tracing?

[placid vessel]

Nope.

[dusty vigil]

I've asked this question in different areas where I see this content up. Me and my family are interested in this game, there are 3 of us. How long will the $375 package be available? Just curious so I know how long I have to try and save up for this.

[civic obsidian]

for quite a long time still

theres no dates

[onyx knoll]

That package should still be up for some time, we don't have a specific date for when they plan to take it down but they've said they would give us a warning ahead of time

[dusty vigil]

Thank You!!!

[heavy karma]

any chance to find out who my referer was for my ashes of creation account?

like can i somewhere see the referal code that I used when creating my account?

A friend of mine pretty much wants to know if he used my ref link or not

[torpid tangle]

I dunno if the website is that advanced

you might be able to send in a ticket asking intrepid

[onyx knoll]

You can see how many referrals you have in your account's info

but not their account names I don't think

[heavy karma]

ok

bummer :x

[timid marsh]

Hey all! I was looking into doin one of the packs but I wanted to find out if anyone knew whether the 2 months (and up depending on package) was aloud playtime during the alphas and betas, or if it was once final release happened and as long as it was in alpha or beta you could just play(again depending on package)

[heavy karma]

hm kinda rip, I want to buy the 250$ pack but want to make sure a friend of mine referred me x.x

[reef osprey]

@heavy karma he sees the amount of people he has referred
if it went +1 upon the creation of your account, then you are his referee

you can still just create a new account if you are in doubt.
Not like you lose anything from creating a new one and abandoning the old one

[unique steeple]

Can we change secondary Archtypes as often as we want?

[reef osprey]

no, there will be cost/effort attached to changing it
but there is no limit on the amount of times you can swap

[unique steeple]

Kk yeah i thought so changing for gold or some kind of token just wanted to know if its going to be possible, nice ty

[heavy karma]

Well, account creation is a while ago back so dont really know if we used the ref or not :p

[wind briar]

Did kickstarter/summer backer packages include embers? Or only the current ones? :o

[reef osprey]

@wind briar there wasn't

[wind briar]

ah damn

[languid crater]

tu

[onyx knoll]

@timid marsh It doesn't look like anyone answered you yet, the subscription time is for when the game releases, if you have an alpha or beta access you can play during those as much as you want, it doesn't count for that sub time

[sharp turtle]

How long will the beta be live for?

[crystal beacon]

In short, we dont know.

[desert ivy]

All we know is that the betas will be shorter than the alphas

[sharp turtle]

Do we know when the Alpha will be out?

Sorry I've been daydreaming

[crystal beacon]

Alpha 1 late fall, we dont know about Alpha 2

[sharp turtle]

Would we have to pay for both?

[remote dock]

Don't think you can pay your way into Alpha 1, you can for Alpha 2 though

[lime ibex]

who is ready for AoC?

[normal lodge]

Me

[crystal beacon]

Would we have to pay for both?

Alpha 1 access isn't available anymore.

[lime ibex]

i want this game to literally take over my entire life and existence

[sharp turtle]

^^

[dapper chasm]

Am i right, its just 22h left for the new Packs and there is still no update on them what they offer?

[desert ivy]

You'll get an update within the next 3 or so hours most likely

[pure bay]

There'll be a whole month to buy the new items, so there's no rush, right?

Ah I see

[desert ivy]

They're not based on when you buy, just on what pack tier you buy. Even if it was when you buy, a few hours wouldn't make any difference

So Kickstarter > Summer backers > Intrepid pack > Voyager Plus is the current order of name reservations

[remote dock]

I did a lower end kickstarter then Voyager Plus, lol.

[desert ivy]

As long as that pack contains the name reservation, you still get priority

[formal zinc]

their time zone is always pacific

[remote dock]

Nope, my $50 kickstarter has no name reservation so back of the bus for me with Voyager Plus. Not really too concerned though.

[formal zinc]

correct 🙂

https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-09-01-heat-and-harmony

there you have it

[remote dock]

Looks better than the one I bought

[frozen elk]

How can I play this game?

Is there a way?

[remote dock]

Build a time machine

[crisp holly]

@frozen elk Not right now

[frozen elk]

Can I get into a preorder or something like that?

[formal zinc]

the only way for now is pre ordering, with so you get acces to alphas or betas depending of the back you buy

[hoary cosmos]

Sorry if this was asked before, but will the cosmetics that come w/ the bundles right now be available for purchase in the cosmetics shop in game?

[formal zinc]

alpha 1 later this year

[supple frost]

Where do you go for name reservations or is that something that will not be released yet?

[storm quarry]

Sorry if this was asked before, but will the cosmetics that come w/ the bundles right now be available for purchase in the cosmetics shop in game?
I wonder this as well ^

[dry wraith]

So wait, how do i buy this pack?

[ornate wasp]

Go to the ashes of creation website

[desert ivy]

@hoary cosmos No. Pre-order cosmetics are exclusive to the pre-order packs

[rain geyser]

Alpha 1 is Fall and Alpha 2 is not confirmed but rumored to be spring

[crystal beacon]

I wonder this as well ^
Pre order cosmetics are Pre order exclusice

[crisp holly]

https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop

[hoary cosmos]

Thanks @desert ivy

[brazen mango]

IS there a way to swap cosmetics ?

[desert ivy]

No

[dry wraith]

Nope

it's not there

[desert ivy]

They come out tomorrow

At 11am PST

[rain geyser]

You can buy cosmetics even after pre order

[dry wraith]

oohhhhh COOL!

[remote dock]

In order to own a pre-order pack's cosmetics, you must either purchase the pre-order pack during the month that the cosmetic is featured or have purchased that level pack or higher in a previous month in order to buy the cosmetic as an add-on.[3]

[ornate wasp]

Also has there been any major information about summoners released yet?

[brazen mango]

I pre-order all ready but I really like this new set

[rain geyser]

But you need pre order to buy cos.etics

[desert ivy]

@rain geyser There is no "rumour" about A2 being spring

There is no rumour on any A2 time apart from pure bullshit

[storm quarry]

There seems to be so many pre-order exclusives... Would hope there wont be too many pre-order-gated cosmetics. Really want that flame fennec, but can't afford to pre-order right now :|

[rain geyser]

Its a rumer not confirmed and no one is sure where it started @desert ivy

[remote dock]

You can see a visual history of all the past pre-order pack cosmetics here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Voyager_plus_pre-order_pack

[crisp holly]

Once you have gotten a pack this is what the the individual items cost and what you can get.

[desert ivy]

It started from someone bullshitting because I bet not even Steven knows when A2 will be

[fair yew]

@storm quarry there may be other variations available in game

[remote dock]

Ouch, pricey

[brazen mango]

oh ok i can buy the skins only then

[flint ibex]

Will these cosmetics you can currently buy bind to your account in a way that you can collect them on multiple characters or will they be single use?

[rain geyser]

@desert ivy beats me but its rumored so who knows

[brazen mango]

I got the $375 one

[desert ivy]

You can transfer the skins to different characters on your account

[rain geyser]

Beats me ask #questions @flint ibex

[fair yew]

Cosmetics will be account bound. Currently they plan to be allowed to be used on one character at a time

[rain geyser]

Or maybe @desert ivy knows

[desert ivy]

But you can't have the same skin equipped on multiple characters. You need to unequip the skin and transfer it to the others

[flint ibex]

we're in questions channel mate

[rain geyser]

Oh wait I thought this was generals lolz

Sorry just waking up

[willow hatch]

For the new cosmetic set, will the boots (Perdition's Path) actually leave trials of fiery hoof prints behind them?

[coarse narwhal]

Are the cosmetic skins split into several diff pieces? Like can I only equip the gloves from the set?

[remote dock]

This one from Oct 2019 looked dope.

[crystal beacon]

For the new cosmetic set, will the boots (Perdition's Path) actually leave trials of fiery hoof prints behind them?
We dont know but hopefully

[brazen mango]

does anyone know how much it cost to buy the skins if you already but the $375 one

[desert ivy]

@coarse narwhal No. You can only equip the full costume or nothing at all when it comes to costumes

Can't equip different pieces of it

[flint ibex]

hmmm oke thanks @desert ivy

[true pebble]

This one from Oct 2019 looked dope.
This is exactly why I plan on wait. Have high expectation on october. Might buy the fire one at last minute.

[fair yew]

Some cosmetics are for individual pieces some of them are costumes that take whole set

[coarse narwhal]

[remote dock]

does anyone know how much it cost to buy the skins if you already but the $375 one
@brazen mango Was linked here. https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/257283936756039680/750458805883764857

[brazen mango]

thanks

[sullen sun]

So I bought a $25 pack back during the crowdfunding and I have the option to upgrade to the other crowdfunding packages, will I still get the rewards for those or will it be null and void since I didnt buy them during crowdfunding?

[desert ivy]

You'll still get the rewards

If you upgrade your KS

[rain geyser]

How did ppl hear about October when its Septembers start

[sullen sun]

Sweet so I can still get access to phase 1 alpha then ya?

[spark lark]

Will we be able to disable the hood part of costumes?

[desert ivy]

If you upgrade to the Braver of Worlds pack or higher, yes

[rain geyser]

No its no longer for sale unless you have a Kick Starter pack

[true pebble]

Anyway, I wonder about - The fire gate thing. Is it basically a freehold skin that warps you to a small pocket dimension? Or at least it's my understanding of it.

[fair yew]

If you are a Kickstarter or summer backer and upgrade you get the packs from back then not the current ones

[coarse narwhal]

The March is the one I’m most upset about not getting

[sullen sun]

Hell ya

So next question. When does phase 1 start?

[rain geyser]

If upgrading was possible I'd have done it already but I got a voyager qwq

[flint ibex]

will helmet/hood slot be a toggle to show/hide?

[desert ivy]

Late Fall @sullen sun

[fair yew]

Yes @flint ibex

[sullen sun]

Thank you @desert ivy
And I'm able to @rain geyser

[rain geyser]

Sorry didn't know you had a kick starter or summer pack @sullen sun

I edited last minute relising my mistake

[sullen sun]

Lol it's fine just wanted to make sure that I could upgrade

[normal lodge]

Is there a picture/can we get a picture of what the Fire Footprints will look like on the boots?

[woven vale]

All concept art, so no.

It hasn't made it's way in game yet.

[desert ivy]

Probably not since they wouldn't have actually created it in-game yet

[crude kelp]

Can we finally get some more info on Angel/Demon skins please? 😄

[crystal beacon]

Only for Kickstarters

[sullen sun]

What package does that come from?

[proper crown]

Are the buildings in the cosmetic shop "one cosmetic fits all" or might this flame gate be a forge only or altar only building cosmetic?

[crystal beacon]

Specific Building

[proper crown]

Do we know what building it will be? Or rather how can we know if yes?

[vale basin]

Hi everyone.

Do we know for how long the Voyager plus, and regular voyager supporter pack will be up for sale?

[crystal beacon]

Do we know what building it will be? Or rather how can we know if yes?
I dont think so, probably an Altar.

[sullen sun]

Yo Patrick with that crow of judgement meme

@vale basin

[vale basin]

😁

[crystal beacon]

Hi everyone.

Do we know for how long the Voyager plus, and regular voyager supporter pack will be up for sale?
No, but we will be told if they remove it.

[autumn sapphire]

does anyone know if the old pre-order cosmetics are coming back, such as the oct 2019 one coming back for oct 2020?

[vale basin]

Sort of a heads up?
That's good 🙂. Was planning on buying it next month.

[fair yew]

@autumn sapphire no cosmetics are unique each month

[desert ivy]

@autumn sapphire No. Once they're gone, they're gone

[crystal beacon]

does anyone know if the old pre-order cosmetics are coming back, such as the oct 2019 one coming back for oct 2020?
They arent coming back

[woven vale]

Exclusive = Exclusive

[blazing gorge]

so i bought the august preorder package. would there ever be any way to switch the cosmetics that you get? or is it just locked to the month that you buy the preorder

[autumn sapphire]

understandable

i missed the coolest ones

[desert ivy]

@blazing gorge Can't swap them

[woven vale]

@blazing gorge You can individually buy cosmetics of your pack or lower tier

[blazing gorge]

[woven vale]

Not swapping I think tho

[vale basin]

You get all new ones right?

[stable plover]

@autumn sapphire The old pre-order cosmetics won't come back (Variants might exist), There's an exception for my.com people who should have been able to pick up individual cosmetics atm that were unavailable when they should have been.

[blazing gorge]

i like the september one better

[fair yew]

You get that month and can buy individual cosmetics of that tier or lower for future

[hallow torrent]

On what kind of structure in a freehold can you apply the blazing gate skin..? Farm?

[undone topaz]

@stable plover i had my shit on my.com is there way to go back and buy those old ones yet or no?

[fair yew]

We will know tomorrow when it’s in shop

[autumn sapphire]

my.com?

[keen nymph]

This is probably a dumb question, but can someone verify if you need to use subscription time to play in the betas?

[fair yew]

Eu people

[formal zinc]

No

[fair yew]

No @keen nymph

[stable plover]

@undone topaz Yes, you'll need to put in a customer support ticket

[chilly hedge]

That would be immensely backwards

[craggy crater]

will preorder skins be purchasable when the game releases particularly the Emblazoned mount skin ? or in different variants ?

[fair yew]

Possibly variants

[gentle smelt]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but will these cosmetics be available to buy after release ?

[keen nymph]

Okay, that makes the pre-order packs a lot better, haha. Cause the betas could be considered extra game time

[fair yew]

There will be cosmetics but not these specific ones

[charred timber]

i assume the pre-order cosmetics will only be available at release? or is there a chance we will be able to use them in beta

[stable plover]

@gentle smelt These cosmetics won't be available after release, or after their specific month even - Other cosmetics will be available at release

[woven vale]

@charred timber Probably only release as they have higher priorities but I dunno

[stable plover]

@charred timber Some of them will be useable in beta as they get finished

[fair yew]

They may implement cosmetics during beta phases not set

[charred timber]

POG

[vale basin]

I believe I heard that you get the subsequent pre order cosmetics of your tier? .. From the moment you bought? True or false?

[fair yew]

You can purchase them individually

[vale basin]

I see. But not ones that you didn't get in early enough to get. Cool stuff.

[fair yew]

Right

[vale basin]

Makes sense 😁

[rugged bison]

will there be collision between characters especially when in PVP to where as mages and archers cannot shoot projectiles through allys and such?

[stable plover]

@vale basin To be clear, you don't automatically get future cosmetics, but can individually purchases cosmetics 5-25$ from future months

[gentle smelt]

@vale basin What was the answer to your question?

[fair yew]

There is currently player collision

[vale basin]

Yes sir 😁

[timid marsh]

@onyx knoll thank you so much for the response!!! Thats awesome