but if you buy it now you will get the ones that come after it as well as the month you bought it on
#questions
warped oriole
hybrid prism
Oh, what?
woven moon
@simple ether when you say find- do you mean as loot drops?
woven moon
Hype! Just gotta wait til next rotation before I buy in. I'm just not a fan of the island dwarves
hybrid prism
Almost made me hate myself for waiting for a pack I really liked, lol
Sadly Island dwarves are the last chance for that little statue
warped oriole
im pretty sure it depends on the back you get im like 90% sure i read that you get cosmetics from the future months with a certain pack
woven moon
@hybrid prism what a dang double edged sword :L
hybrid prism
I know. I'm waiting for the reveal of next month's to see if it's worth it to wait or take the statue with the meh cosmetics
unreal zealot
@hybrid prism are you on about the corona statue?
crystal flax
You have the choice to buy them individually going forward, but you are not just given them
dark jungle
^
hybrid prism
Alright, that's what you were talking about
How much are the plain cosmetics packs?
warped oriole
same cucumber
hybrid prism
Ty
woven moon
Any information on how unique recipes will work? There was mention of patented recipes for the crafter that "discovers" them, but how do you "discover" a recipe? Loot drop? Randomly found through repetitive crafting?
peak wasp
nice first time i saw the pricing on aditional cosmetics since i havent got a pack yet
blazing sequoia
is this comsmetics gona be like every week or month the cosmetic market changes or smt like that ?
so the stuff has some value
spiral pine
changes every month
blazing sequoia
for collecting and stuff
spiral pine
and then they are gone forever
empty palm
In game?
spiral pine
no thats stupid
unreal zealot
no
blazing sequoia
@spiral pine just talking about cosmetics not weapons and armour
spiral pine
no
unreal zealot
by that logic why not just buy it off the shop then?
blazing sequoia
ow k
spiral pine
should move to discussion btw
warm rune
AoC remove my.games and build own in EU?
cyan coral
is good news to all europen players m8
winter parrot
Personally, if In Game cosmetics are a thing, some sort of trading them might be fun for us collectors.
warm rune
but i am wonder why they dont teamwork with my.games anymore.
slow meadow
by allowing them to be traded you can take real money and turn it in to in game gold, which is a form of P2W and one of the main reasons its not being allowed. @winter parrot they are being very careful around anything that even looks like P2W since that is one of their core selling points and a drum they have been beating since the very beginning.
peak wasp
if I recall correctly they planned to be alone from the start but due to legal issues, I think with the requirement of 3 languages in Europe, they had to partner with mygames. Apparently they have their own people now?
warm rune
also i heard rumors. my.games have bad reputations.
slow meadow
@peak wasp they don't have their own people yet, but they are hiring.
winter parrot
I was not talking from the cash shop and not sold, but traded. I am sure there is a way... We will see
warm rune
i hope they will own EU STORE. without high price extra.
unreal zealot
@winter parrot i asked the same question but it still leads to gold selling and buying in some form the best way to curb it is to just not allow trading of cash shop bought cosmetics
the only way i could ever see it working is trading one cosmetic for another and that's the only way even then someone in the world will open a black market to trade cheaper mor common cosmetics for rare ones for real money so i just think it wont ever happen
blazing sequoia
So we just hope they find a way to do this without the risk of gold selling and buying
dull matrix
Maybe they will add an Option at some point, that you can cash in your Cosmetics 🙂
solar basin
hey guys do you know if ashes theme music is free to use to make videos?
ripe mirage
if this were kings wouldn't most of you have lost at this point?
grave basalt
Greetings everyone, I registered at the games website and verified email but the DOWNLOAD button below never appeared. I wasn't able to find the game on Steam either. Please help!
ripe mirage
still pre alpha
onyx knoll
@grave basalt The game isn't available to be played yet 🙂
ripe mirage
apocalypse probably available by year end for round 2
onyx knoll
(it also won't be on steam)
grave basalt
I understand
onyx knoll
Well, APOC might be on steam but not the full game
grave basalt
Thanks
this one is almost non commercial
the ingame money is what i dont like about other games and the boundaries that it sets
ripe mirage
Has there been any mention of how many freeholds will be able to exist in each server?
onyx knoll
@ripe mirage it'll fluctuate based on how many nodes are at rank 3 or higher, and what their zones of influences are. You're only technically limited by the space available. We haven't gotten any sort of number on what the hypothetical maximum would be
ripe mirage
fair
slow meadow
@ripe mirage I wouldn't give an estimate for APOC since the only thing we know at this time is its delayed while they focus on A1, which starts this fall. So it may be quite a while b4 we see it again.
ripe mirage
also fair, and they did say after alpha 1 i believe
If you don't have access to a freehold will there be area to process goods in certain pois or nodes?
onyx knoll
@ripe mirage I believe mayors can construct buildings that will serve as areas where you can craft or process materials, like a forge/blacksmith
so nodes that are big enough could allow you to process/craft without you needing your own freehold
ripe mirage
nice, ty for the replies
onyx knoll
o7
solar basin
@simple ether ty thats what i figured which is why i was checking
icy island
ye but fellas. so i hear region lock isn't a thing. does that equate to the different regions being in the same client?
aka, would I be able to log out of my EU server character, swap over to a NA server and play?
right. But at the very least you shouldn't need multiple accounts for multiple regions?
or is that unknown too?
or, i guess that's more or less what i asked, nevermind.
ripe mirage
so after 20 referrals you no longer gain a direct benefit from the referrals correct?
desert ivy
Huh? There is no limit to the referrals
ripe mirage
huh mb and glad i checked before spreading that too much
onyx knoll
@ripe mirage You can convert the referral money you get into real cash, there will always be a big benefit to having more referrals
errant chasm
i just hope that we actually get the 15% from referrals on preorders and alpha 2 packs im up to 8 of them now
pulsar cobalt
Is there optimization for multi-core systems or is it more about having better single core performance?
I saw that the recommend system is a 6700k and a GTX 970 so not exactly sure
errant chasm
pretty sure its been mentioned those are just for alpha / beta tests and they'll update them closer to launch cause those are just generic recommended for unreal4 could be wrong
pulsar cobalt
that would make sense. It also says it only needs 15 GB which I can't fathom for a game of this scale
*of storage
unreal zealot
those are the system requirements for alpha atm most likley
i imagine the storage space to obv increase as the games gets closer to completion as we go through the alphas and betas, but in terms of the other system require ments depending on how they optimize we could see it need newer hardware or even be able to cope with older hardware.
tawny bluff
is arena gonna have equalized gear
onyx knoll
We don't have that sort of detail on the arena yet. We do know the military node "election" system will be a battle royal style arena where you control NPCs that you can equip with pre-selected gear to make it a more equal playing field
woeful kite
if i buy the voyager do i get access to the current alpha or the one at the end of the year
slow meadow
voyager is access to alpha 2 which has no date currently. alpha 1 begins this fall and is no longer available for purchase. current testing is with high level KS backers as part of pre-alpha QA testing.
wild marsh
75/25 or 70/30 for hybrid combat? Or is this still fully unknown?
onyx knoll
you can chose
cyan compass
Its 75/25 or 25/75
onyx knoll
you can go UP TO 75/25, but it could be 50/50
anywhere between 75% action and 25% tab, to 25% action adn 75% tab
cyan compass
So real quick, say there's a level 6 commerce node and there's a level 5 science node within the level 6 node zone of influence, but you want the level 5 node to become level 6, but since its in the zone of influence of the level 6, you can't declare war on it, how do you get the node to level 6? You just hope another node declares war on it?
onyx knoll
You can contact an other node/group with some juicy info on that rank 6 node to get them to attack it, yeah
Or you just move your citizenship to an other node and attack it but that's a 2 week long con
cyan compass
Alright thanks, but damn, that's hella dumb :/
lost sentinel
Yeah, it would be interesting if there was a "rebellion" system or something like that.
abstract mountain
What is the maximum number of metropolis in the world?
slow meadow
@abstract mountain 5
abstract mountain
Lol really?
reef osprey
yes
slow meadow
yes there can be only 5 metropolis level nodes at one time. their ZOI will cover 1/5th of the map.
abstract mountain
Oh so each metropoli will hold around 20 other nodes?
vernal viper
will this game be released globally or just na?
slow meadow
the metropolis is a single node, but its ZOI will make vassals out of roughly 20 nodes yes.
abstract mountain
@vernal viper globally
vernal viper
ahh ty
reef osprey
@abstract mountain yes, a lot of them won't be developed though
abstract mountain
5 seems so few for me but we will see
And what is the size of the city? In metropolis stage i mean
Not the zoi but the city itself
reef osprey
@abstract mountain we don't know that yet unfortunately
hopefully we will get more information in the Nodes: 3 blog
abstract mountain
Kk thx 😊
arctic sky
nodes 3......
reef osprey
it will come out "soon"
abstract mountain
Will have to wait then
reef osprey
:kapp:
ashen vault
peak wasp
what so you get when someone uses your referal code?
reef osprey
15% of all the money they spend as store credits to use for your sub/shop
arctic sky
15% of their purchases
peak wasp
wow nice
slow meadow
@abstract mountain I don't have a citation to give you context relative to the other stages but here is the quote we have from Steven about Metropolis size
onyx knoll
(that's 0.3 miles for you weird americans)
hybrid prism
Is there a non-zero chance A1 keys will go on sale again? Not even sure if I'd be interested since A2 is the persistent test, but some video from a week ago said it was possible but I haven't been able to find a source for that claim anywhere.
reef osprey
@hybrid prism that's correct
they mentioned, that they might open up A1 sales again if testing either requires or allows it
onyx knoll
@hybrid prism There is a non-0 chance, yes. Steven tweeted that they would consider re-opening that sales for A1 if the testing goes weel initially
hardly a guarantee tho
slow meadow
@hybrid prism
lime kayak
slow meadow
well damn that stayed smaller than I wanted
unreal zealot
@lime kayak Perfect
onyx knoll
lime kayak
@slow meadow bet you tell that your women all the time
steady jasper
pre alpha is this month or no eta ? i dont remember 🤔
reef osprey
@slow meadow that's what she said usually
slow meadow
@hybrid prism xenellia's quote is basically the same thing as what I was linking from steven.
reef osprey
the world is 480+100 km²
the metropolis is 0.2 km²
abstract mountain
Thx 😊
crystal beacon
Only 0.2?
onyx knoll
The city itself
unreal zealot
i mean depending on how fast you walk/run in the game world that can still be pretty big
crystal beacon
U sure it isnt 2km
unreal zealot
im pretty sure the quote further up was 0.5km for the mets
reef osprey
0.2 km² it 200.000 m² btw
abstract mountain
200.000m2 its pretty damn big for sure, but again depends on the scale and travel speed
crystal beacon
Oh lol
Forgot that you cant concert it like that
So 447m squared
Higher than the eiffeltower
frigid vapor
area =/= height 😮
slow meadow
Not sure if it helps put it into perspective but if one of the continents of Verra (roughly 240 km²) was the size of California then a metropolis would be roughly 3 times the size of San Francisco.
crystal beacon
what i meant is one side is "taller" than the eiffeltower
if it was lying on the floor
slow meadow
They have said they will look in to it, that's about it. Any decision would be made on how it would impact their development pipeline and what benefits if any they would get from upgrading.
stable cedar
We always keep up to date with the latest and greatest from Unreal. We will be evaluating UE5 of course, but we aren’t yet certain on the technical limitations our custom engine changes may present when considering UE5
@idle siren
unreal zealot
i honestly believe that them upgrading to unreal 5 should be after launch maybe after a year or so so they can look into the engine fully and even see if its worth while because unreal 5 is more like unreal 4.5
proper crown
Is A2 a wolrd thats always online or that goes online at certain times?
finite mesa
from what I just read, upgrading from U4 to U5 should be pretty seamless
unreal zealot
Alpha 2 should be consistent servers i believe
finite mesa
just a matter of how it would effect play bass
player bass
if their computers could handle it
arctic sky
they took 9months making their custom back end work how thye like it
stable cedar
might still be something they can migrate to UE5 without a ton of work, but unless UE5 gives them something, it might not be worth it before launch
finite mesa
I say youtube video a while back showing how bad its going to be with STREAMING Owning all the 5 Metropolisis
sad but true
unreal zealot
they are doomsayers yes streamers will affect certain servers but they cant own everything its impossible, the only met they can consistently become mayor of is the economic node and scientific nodes even then people can fight it.
urban pecan
Has there been any confirmation on how long it will take us to travel on foot from one edge of the map to the other?
woven vale
I don't believe so, all we know is travelling is meant to be meaningful, giving way to the caravan system.
unreal zealot
multiple hours is all ive heard really
urban pecan
Ok thanks, I appreciate the responses.
toxic swan
@urban pecan Steven was in a community stream this week and that question was asked. He said it would be approximately 2 hours on foot - but that you likely won't be travelling that far on foot, ever.
unreal zealot
also we dont know if that takes into account of running around mountains or avoid dangerous areas
toxic swan
Correct
naive cliff
Will there be a level requirement for armor and weapons?
icy prawn
there have been pictures of sets that have been labeled 'level 10-20 leather armor', but i didnt see an actual requirement listed
orchid fossil
Probably going for no requirement but you destroy it quicker and less efficient the less you match who it's intended to
hybrid hornet
did they send out invites for leader of men yet?
hm i never got anything
yeah nothing in spam, guess i need to contact them?
worthy schooner
Ok so i have a bit of a concern/question.
So far NA and EU servers and support has been talked about plenty in both streams and in news articles.
I am an Oceanic region player, where on earth is our community? I was part of an "oceanic" discord for a year or so where from what i understood several of the people who run that discord are literally banned from here for being idiots/toxic.
So my question is, could Intrepid please make an effort to "sow the seeds" if you will, for our community?
slow meadow
there is a OCE guild recruitment section on the forum for people from OCE to find each other and start building that community
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/oce-guilds
solemn coral
Is it possible for me to sign up to play alpha 1? And is there an eta on when it will be open?
slow meadow
it is not currently available for purchase, the highest pack available has alpha 2 access. Alpha 1 is set to start this fall. No dates for alpha 2 at this time.
steady ocean
@solemn coral You can check out the current Alpha/Beta packs here https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
crimson sparrow
What kind of system requirements will game have?
steady ocean
@icy prawn You can use the recommendations for the Alpha testers to give you an idea: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha_testing_system_requirements
halcyon spindle
Can someone direct me to the (forum?) link for how to add your Kickstarter package level to your Discord here on the AoC server? Thanks!
steady ocean
crimson sparrow
Is there any description with game/world magic system?
To understand basics of magic and know what kind of augumentation / class abilities I can expect
steady ocean
Not yet. That will be explored more in Alpha 2. You can check out the mage primary archetype here though: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mage
has a preview of what some of the primary spells can look like if they make it to final testing
halcyon spindle
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
@steady ocean Need the link on the forums, or the link here for the method to get the Kickstarter level tag here. Not finding it with a faq search.
steady ocean
@slow meadow Anything you needed to do or was it automatic?
slow meadow
It was all automatic.
crimson sparrow
Which class fits more into Samurai/Blademaster theme?
slow meadow
But I've been around a while and they have a new forum and everything since when I first joined up so it may be different now. or may not be possible. I'm unsure and cant really check anymore
steady ocean
@crimson sparrow You can check out the classes here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes#Classes_by_archetype_combination
Also the Ren'Kai orcs have an Eastern/Japanese aesthetic if that is what you are interested in.
slow meadow
@crimson sparrow Its hard to say. We will see archetype abilities (your base class) as part of alpha 1 testing (which those of us with access will be streaming) so you can see more of it in action then. That will be the first look at core abilities and first iteration on design of the classes. Augments will come in alpha 2 which build on top of that, but all your abilities come from the base.
steady ocean
Do note that the above is a particular costume that was sold in the cosmetic store last month. So the particular skins you may find in current/future packs may differ.
crimson sparrow
I see. Is there way to join alpha 1? I saw $250 shop offer but alpha 1 wasn't included.
slow meadow
no alpha 2 is the earliest you can join right now
steady ocean
Not currently, unless the devs decide to open access to A1 if they need more testers. If this happens, you would pay the difference in whatever pack you currently own, and the price for the Alpha 1 access ($500)
little kiln
^
crimson sparrow
And Alpha 2 isn't specified when it comes to even approximate date?
slow meadow
correct. alpha 1 this fall. no dates beyond that
halcyon spindle
Can someone direct me to the link for how to add your Kickstarter package level to the AoC Discord?
steady ocean
@kind vapor Is this something @halcyon spindle needs to put in a support ticket for?
crimson sparrow
"Intrepid packs were discontinued to keep the participating testers below the 10k threshold so as not to exceed potential issues on our backend. My statement just now was, if testing goes fine and we are able to handle the number of players fine, I do not see an issue in offering additional intrepid packs. Alpha One was not exclusive. We did indeed end sales for the past 2 years"
steady ocean
Yes, we mentioned they may open access to A1 if they need more testers. @crimson sparrow
@halcyon spindle You can try typing !support and put in a ticket. It may take awhile due to high workload for the community managers/support team, but they could eventually get to it.
kind vapor
@steady ocean indeed. @halcyon spindle, create a support ticket through the site and they'll get you sorted
halcyon spindle
@steady ocean indeed. @halcyon spindle, create a support ticket through the site and they'll get you sorted
@kind vapor Thank you!
crimson sparrow
One more question. Lately I saw many concepts being dominated by LGTBQ society. I know it's delicate matter but we won't have this stuff forced upon us? I am pretty tolerant person and I don't mind meeting bi/homosexual NPC but I really hate any related propaganda and things like that forced upon the player. I just want to make sure that game is not trying to sympathize to this part of community (in special way, as mentioned).
What could we expect when it comes to the lore? To game world? While watching some gameplay / trailer stuff I had this good classic medieval/fantasy setting feeling.
desert ivy
Wew
crimson sparrow
Old school MMORPG with very appealing ideas behind it.
lost sentinel
"propaganda" 
crimson sparrow
I am thinking about supporting the idea and people behind it with contribution so I am concerned.
Yeah, it's getting obnoxious lately.
steady ocean
@crimson sparrow You can generally check out the wiki and type in keywords and it will lead you to many answers. If you have any specific questions let us know. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/
As to your other question, the game emphasizes player choice so if you see something you don't want to take part in, you can choose not to.
desert ivy
I mean, Steven (the creative director and creator of Intrepid Studios) is gay and there will be same sex marriage in the game, so if that disturbs you then maybe not the game for you
steady ocean
That's different than what they were asking @desert ivy
crimson sparrow
I said that I am tolerant person. I don't mind possibilities as much as I hate having things enforced on me.
chilly hedge
I'm not even sure I understand the implication here.
steady ocean
It may be better continued in #aoc-discussion However, I think the question was answered
crimson sparrow
It's hard to use right words with delicate matter as this when you mean no offense.
lost sentinel
The fact you called it "propaganda" kinda shows your true feelings on the subject. Not sure I believe the whole tolerant bit.
crystal beacon
Having LGBTQ folk in game is not forcing anything, they exist.
grizzled oasis
@crimson sparrow you're afraid they'll be shoving it in your face constantly (which like literally anything gets annoying)?
Not likely.
crimson sparrow
Indeed. Where you can feel that someone want to implicate you something through the narrative.
grizzled oasis
Unless you're extremely single-minded and sift through every part of any dialogue or lore looking for it
So, theres no problem.
crimson sparrow
I am looking for good MMORPG experience with immersive world.
steady ocean
Again, please remember the channel is for questions. Discussions should be moved to #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion Please remember to keep it civil
chilly hedge
No real point even discussing that since we know nothing of specific quests yet, or how exactly the social works are in the villages.
slow meadow
@crimson sparrow start at about 1:06:00 to hear some of stevens response to a couple questions about lgbtq representation within the game. TLDW: Its there in the narrative but thats about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnoHtzaQeMs&feature=youtu.be&t=1h05m58s
timid mason
How much % of assets will be reused over 103 nodes?..example designs for dungeons, monsters..
steady ocean
We've never really seen them all except concept art, so it is hard to say at this point. The biome they are in could change the look of the nodes a bit, and of course the race that provides the most experience will influence it's look based on that race.
slow meadow
@timid mason its hard to say. Also depends on what you consider reuse. If you look at the creature designs, the bear model is used a lot but the various elemental types are pretty distinct. So for creatures I would expect some level though there will be a very wide variety of bases. Dungeons and nodes will be more distinct though especially since Race influence the architecture based on XP contribution. But Intrepid have been pumping out a lot of unique art, so I would use what you can see on the wiki as a baseline and keep an eye on it over time.
crisp holly
@timid mason on the monster side, if you look at the last dev video of July, they show off a couple spider models which seems to indicate that they will be spiders in multiple different area but will look and might behave differently depending on the location(hard to really say that right now though )
ruby swift
Can someone direct me to the link for how to add your Kickstarter package level to the AoC Discord?
@halcyon spindle @kind vapor The only KS packages displayed on the discord are the PI tag and the LoM tag for testing. If it is one of those he is missing because of a recent upgrade then a ticket would be needed. But if he is looking for what the forums does by listing every level, that is not done in the Discord currently.
rotund lintel
how regularly will new servers be launched? and how many servers will be there initially? and the server limit is 10.000 players does that mean '' online at once or characters created on that server ? '' and what will be the done to servers that have too few players? (sorry alot of questions)
desert ivy
We dont know
rotund lintel
alright but since every server is completely unique. how will that server merging find place? they all migrate to the one server or will all nodes start back at 0? since with merging surely the server that survives the merge players will have the edge on the players that lost their server
steady ocean
either 1 server will become the parent server where the smaller server members transfer over with all their weapons/armor/inventory (however housing gets destroyed), or both servers merge together on a fresh server.
ruby swift
@rotund lintel Those are issues that they have yet to address. But if your server dies and you have to merge, then you will most likely lose that "edge." Which you would have lost as your server slowly died and nodes crumbled to 0 around you anyways. But that is more opinion than answer.
steady ocean
They did address those issues on one of the livestreams. @ruby swift
ruby swift
About to run to the store. If you could DM me a link so I can check it out that would be great. I just remembered the issue as one of those "we are working on it" answers.
rotund lintel
aslong as it will not ruin the experience for the players that tried their hardest to earn their name on the server that got merged 🙂 i'd suck to go from '' we're absolutely killing this server to -> we are nobodies ''
tawdry forum
So not entirely sure what my cat did but my chat text box is super large in discord anyone know the fix lol
rotund lintel
yea go to settings -> appearance
tawdry forum
it's only in 1 channel though
strong drum
Do you think ashes will have a decent focus on random world dropped items - i remember one of the best things about early wow was no matter what you were doing you always had a chance at some epic item dropping - it was like 1% usually or something but ide like to see alot of variation in rare items to even further set you apart from others
steady ocean
@strong drum
strong drum
Sounds good - as long as that line about mobs doesnt just mean dungeon mobs
steady ocean
It generally means dungon/raid/world bosses I believe
strong drum
Im talking in the open world - item drop chance
steady ocean
I think Steven has said that drops will make sense. So you won't see a legendary sword drop from a cow in the open world for example. You can read more here if you would like: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Loot_tables
strong drum
yeah ofcourse that would be silly
fair wraith
Why can't I have my name as 31g?
steady ocean
Your discord name?
little kiln
hm
little kiln
does it?
fair wraith
Lmao
rotund ermine
Uh
fair wraith
Weird moderation
ruby swift
There will be extremely rare drops in the open world. They touched on this in last livestream about gathering. You could whack that tree and get something special out of it. Same applies to mobs. Steven said he that was a mechanic he liked and thought rewarded players with a special "gatcha"
strong drum
excellent
ruby swift
Weird moderation
@fair wraith 7. If you add your guild name, please add it at the beginning of your name in brackets "[]". If you have an offensive or special character name, guild name or avatar, or a name in a non-supported language on the Discord, you will be assigned a new name until you change your name, or be put in timeout until you change your avatar. If you do not change your avatar within 72 hours, you will be subject to suspension, and in more serious cases, a ban. While not required, we’d prefer that you use your Intrepid Studios playername.
strong drum
ty @ruby swift nothing worse than everyone grinding the same dungeon for the same loot
torpid tangle
haha! now you got a splinter of some rare armor from that weird purple glowing goblin you just killed take this to "insert cool blacksmith name here" and get him to craft it for you
fair wraith
Is 31 an offensive name? It's only the amount of protein measured by and for a food scource
ruby swift
Don't know. Must be a reason the bot picked it up. Any of the blue names here have no control over that. That would be something to bring up with a red named mod or a gold.
little kiln
will i be slapped by moderation for explaining it?
steady ocean
You can google it easy enough.
ruby swift
Yeah, that is the problem. Sometimes things that you don't know about are offensive. Maybe someone thinks Baskin Robbin is killing fat kids, so 31 is offensive.
little kiln
its a server specific thing for 31g tho. tried it on my home server and its fine
hallow pond
plz continue the talk in disscussion section, keep this Q and A
ruby swift
Correct, there is a filter for the bot that they use here. It is constantly growing as more questionable things are pointed out.
little kiln
are there any plans for primitive firearms of any sort, in the form of muskets or cannons for seige?
steady ocean
No blackpowder I believe. Perhaps something powered by the arcane though
steady ocean
That's likely the battle royale, which is different that the MMO
little kiln
maybe. from Peon's video
placid vessel
@little kiln Steven has said no firearms in the mmo.
hidden crane
@little kiln Sorry buddy, that's a crossbow from the side
placid vessel
yup.
little kiln
aah. rapid fire repeater though, but neat. thanks for the answers
hidden crane
There may be some type of firearms though
placid vessel
@hidden crane but Steven has said no guns.
hidden crane
Direct quote from Steven
hidden crane
All subject to change, gunpowder exists in AoC, only as fancy pixie dust
The potion launcher existed in the same universe as AoC, it wont be in the MMO, but it existed.
Additionally, ships will have to have cannons so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Steven will let us know when the time is right
ruby swift
Steven will write lore to fit whatever he wants to put in game or keep out cough Stuffertons cough
hidden crane
^
lost sentinel
So what do you think the world lacks: charcoal, sulfur, or a... uh... way of making potassium nitrate.
Seems weird to have alchemy and no gunpowder, even if I support the decision.
hidden crane
Moreso that pixie dust is probably easily available so people never have to resort to gunpowder
i.e. if fresh water was available, you'd never go through the trouble of purifying water etc
But again, all subject to change and lore is locked tight, we'll find out more later.
ruby swift
The normal laws of our physical universe do not apply. There could be an argument for gunpowder on Sanctus, but all he has to do is come up with some "It's magic, duh!" reason for Verra.
lost sentinel
Well, I would counter that with: why bother grinding up wings when you can make a small explosion in a gun barrel with magic?
hidden crane
Great Question Opux, throw that into the livestream QnA thread and see what monstrosity steven comes up with on the fly as reasoning
steady ocean
Sounds like a great topic over #aoc-discussion As we have strayed from answering your question (although it was a great tangent)
abstract mountain
Guys how much will it cost to change your augments? Or it wont even be possible?
steady ocean
We don't have specifics, only that respecs will be a thing.
little kiln
on character death, what exactly do you loose as a combatant and non combantant? Ive seen mention of resources but what about money or other items?
steady ocean
raw resources and craftables, and you gain some experience debt. (think of raw materials as iron ore, craftables as an iron bar)
little kiln
all or a percentage?
steady ocean
%
Non-combatant drops 2x as much as a combatant, and also gets 2x the experience debt. So technically you would want to fight back. But you can choose not to in order to make the other person corrupted. You can read more if interested here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Loot_tables#Player_death
real sleet
Will these items be dropped to the world or just sacrificed to the Nether?
steady ocean
They will be lootable by the person that killed you I would believe.
real sleet
What about death to NPC? Ie Mobs?
steady ocean
What we know is pretty much in that link I just provided. If it isn't in there, it may be worthwhile to add it to the Q&A for the livestream.
abstract mountain
Death penalties do not differ between PvP and PvE, but this is subject to change.[47]
little kiln
what about housing storage?
Its been mentioned there are storage containers for housing, but what happens to items stored within the housing itself if the housing is destroyed after a seige?
steady ocean
The ones that destroyed it can loot a portion of the raw resources/craftables
little kiln
ah so it works as generic node storage?
steady ocean
For personal storage for you and the people you give permission to access it yes
void pendant
Hmm seems pretty harsh loosing stuuf when you get ganked
stone flame
I have a question about the PvP. If I am a non-combatant and I am getting attacked by others and I don't wanna fight back. What will happen if I started to heal my self instead? will I stay a non-combatant? or turn into a combatant?
full badger
You won't be flagged as a combatant for self-healing or self-buffing @stone flame
stone flame
And what if I were to heal a combatant has a non-combatant?
abstract mountain
So then cleric+cleric to not lose his stuff will have to fight back even tho he has no chance to win?
full badger
If you heal or buff a combatant you become a combatant @stone flame
stone flame
Ah I see. Thank you for your time!
full badger
@abstract mountain Even as a non-combatant you still have a death penalty
abstract mountain
Thats what i mean, if he wants to become combatant to lose less things, he will have to fight back, but i doubt he will be able to win as double cleric am i right?
full badger
It's too early to tell right now
elder yacht
If you're Cleric/Cleric, you'll go the route of healers in OWPvP in basically every other game. You won't win, you won't lose, they'll get bored or jumped by someone else
abstract mountain
Maybe right
elder yacht
The point of solo OWPvP healer isn't to win, it's to give the other person carpal tunnel
west turtle
Can EU/NA have a seperate guild recruitment channel? It would help direct new players more easier
full badger
Can EU/NA have a seperate guild recruitment channel? It would help direct new players more easier
@west turtle There are separate EU/NA guild recruitments on the forums. I think Intrepid don't want to add more discord channels right now
desert ivy
@elder yacht @abstract mountain Cleric/Cleric doesn't have to be a healer. They can also spec into damage
silver python
Does anyone know if you can upgrade a kickstarter pack multiple times?
abstract mountain
Kickstarter packs are not available I think
full badger
I don't see why you couldn't @silver python
abstract mountain
Are they?
silver python
If you bought in the original kickstarter, you can still upgrade. I just want to know if I can upgrade later.
like go from the $500 to the $1000 to the $2500 pack if I wanted.
full badger
Yeah I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do that, but if you like, wait until the NA mods wake up and ask them
silver python
thanks!
shut shoal
You can. I have upgraded my kickstarter twice @silver python
silver python
thanks!
crystal beacon
what is current EU site for AoC
plush mauve
@crystal beacon I don't think there is one after the recent news of my.com being dropped by intrepid... I think they said that for now the only available portal for purchases will be the US website
potent blade
Hey guys!
I'm a chinchilla owner and noticed in the wiki a petskin for chinchillas and I died. Is there a way to purchase that chinchilla skin somewhere??
full badger
@potent blade If it is from a previous month there is no way to get it now, sorry. There will be alternatives available in-game but not that exact one from the store
potent blade
Sadness. I don't know if its from a specific bundle, ill to find it and check. Its so adorable
grizzled hatch
Chinchilla poll for steven incoming
tranquil viper
I have a question.
What is AoC philosophy on mob difficulty in both open world and dungoens. In older mmos, mobs were difficult to kill, if you pulled 2 or more you died - that made grouping enjoyable, rewarding and the world was more dangerous and challenging. Now, players are death juggernauts that can overdamage and overheal every mob, and doing quests and farming seems more like conveyor belt job than real game. How AoC looks at that problem?
arctic sky
They had a murder rabbit the avoided one stream
full badger
@tranquil viper It's too early to tell right now, although the devs have said they want to encourage players to group up for open world play.
sharp harbor
@arctic sky thats because their was a bug with the rabit that it would 1 shot you lol
little kiln
I will do my best to solo as much as possible 
ruby swift
The mobs and spawn points/density that were in previous tests are placeholder and are not indicative of what the product will be in the future.
warm owl
With all the tools that’s on the table now, what is the ideal roundabout date for A1 release?
Haven’t seen any dates at all, I apologize if one has been already announced. I’m a busy guy, working overtime on overtime so I can relax easy when A1 drops.
Thanks in advance for any info.
empty palm
Will the raptors still be in the final release of the game? Very important question.
full badger
Yes, there will be raptors in the final version
earnest spindle
Hi guy, I read on the FAQ Ashes will be available in English, French, German, and Russian. I would like to ask will Chinese (simplified/ Traditional) be one of the ?
Thanks
full badger
@earnest spindle If there is enough demand for a language, it will be added later on.
earnest spindle
Thank you
grizzled hatch
Considering that Chinese is one of the most used languages in the world it wouldn't surprise me if it was added
whole venture
Yeah I wouldn’t doubt that they localize it in all the most common languages.
vernal swallow
Is there a mechanism where the trees felled through woodcutting can harm the player it hits?
onyx knoll
Not that I'm aware of
little kiln
in one of the livestreams, it looked like a tree fell on Toast or another high level staff member. Didnt seem to cause any damage.
worldly moss
Will they ever start selling the preorder packs in an eu portal? It costs an additional 125$ in VAT costs right now 😦
I was going to buy the 375$ pack but i cancelled when i saw the extra cost, gets so expensive for nothing really
spiral pine
it will get sorted eventually
fierce mica
probably answered already but, if i buy the wayfarer pack now is it possible to upgrade it to voyager pack before alpha 2 starts?
full badger
@fierce mica Yes, you can upgrade to a higher tiered pack if you wish
sweet hawk
Have the raids been confirmed to be 40man or is it subject to change?
Sure as hell hope it'd be reduced closer to 20
full badger
@sweet hawk 40-man is the plan for raids, subject to testing of course
empty palm
inb4 100 man raids become a thing.
glacial harness
@sweet hawk I'd hope for smaller than 8 mans too :/
unreal zealot
nocturne tide
Will there be a limit to how many times you can attempt a dungeon in a certain time period? Just to stop constant grinding for it?
glacial harness
8 seems like a lot without LFD and having to travel to dungeons
nocturne tide
Obviously only the 20% instanced ones
sweet hawk
40+ for world bosses is great, but if Classic WoW has taught me one thing, it's that herding 39 other people weekly and making sure everyone has everything under control, making sure you have somebody for backup if one of the 39 can't make it, is one hell of a pain in the ass. And in the end, the raids don't feel any different than retail's 20 man raids. You honestly don't even notice there's double the amount of people when you're actually playing the game.
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
glacial harness
apologies
hollow pike
Is there any infoemation about blocking Hardware's software? Like Ahk, synapse and others so it gets blocked someway
full badger
There hasn't been anything stated about blocking programs like that @hollow pike
hollow pike
There are few where people get a lot of advantage in terms of pvp.
Like:
getting auto target even if your foe is leaping.
spamming a Key multiple times so it get a better client-server response.
macro-play.
Some people may see it like actual cheating kekw
real sleet
@worldly moss i have hopes since they are opening up an office in Amsterdam that we will get a european store with less VAT.
quasi karma
will there be enough apartments for every player or are they limited?
winter parrot
What is the limit for housing per server? Is it two (one in node dwelling be it apt or house) AND a Freehold (which is one per account) OR is it just one from the three types?
onyx knoll
you could technically have 3 per server (1 freehold, 1 apartment and 1 in-node house), but only 1 freehold per account.
They don't all need to be in the same node either
would be pretty expensive to maintain tho since you'll be paying taxes on all of them
winter parrot
Perfect, thanks for the information
zinc cave
Can we at least play apoc while we sit here and wait for alpha.....
onyx knoll
Unfortunatly not
slow meadow
they got what they needed from apoc for now so it been shelved while they focus on alpha 1 testing. It may be back some time after a1 but no dates at this time.
mental cipher
I have no doubt that this has been asked over and over, and I wonder why there isn't a sticky or in the FAQ etc, but when is the next date to be able to play? I had read somewhere it was the end of August? I have the Voyager.
I cant seem to find a date online.
rare hedge
Lol noone really knows a date just something along the lines of sometime in fall
unreal zealot
end of fall is whats been stated
if you have voyager tho that means you have alpha 2 not 1?
desert ivy
For Voyager packs you won't be able to play until next year
rare hedge
Das tuff
mental cipher
Yeah its says Alpha 2 and Beta 1
rare hedge
Yea alpha 1 will be at the end of fall
unreal zealot
alpha 2 will maybe be 2nd half of next year
mental cipher
Do I need Voyager Plus?
rare hedge
Aka the next time u can play
unreal zealot
alpha 1 sales dont exist atm
mental cipher
Balls
rare hedge
Yea it was kk backers
mental cipher
Oh gotcha
rare hedge
Ks
crystal beacon
how long did they say it would take to get max level again
mental cipher
Thats too bad, oh well
crystal beacon
like 50 days of in-game time or something
rare hedge
45days
crystal beacon
LMAO
crystal beacon
i meant days
it was 45 days with 6 hours average, but that was just an estimate they dont know for sure
but still got damn
unreal zealot
alpha 1 sales MIGHT come back if they either need more testers or they are comfortable with going over 10k people on their servers
rare hedge
Deleted
mental cipher
Sweet, thanks Scarab
rare hedge
I thought alpha 1 pop for servs was gonna be like 2k
unreal zealot
they have 10k ks backers and summer sales from 2018 for alpha 1 and then all the people who have upgraded since then
if they backed the KS they are allowed to upgrade into alpha one
if im wrong someone feel free to correct me
proper crown
Do we know when they plan on removing the possibility to buy into A2?
small pecan
Nope! Just that we’ll get ample notice of about a month
unreal zealot
^
heavy cradle
Do we know if there are CC breaks ingame? Like trinkets from WoW?
full badger
Nothing like that has been talked about yet @heavy cradle
winter parrot
Have all the Artisan Skills been listed? What crop/resource is used by the Armor Smith (odd they make cloth robes but ok) and how will be processed?
heavy cradle
Gonna put it on the questions for this week then./
onyx knoll
No we don't have the full list, the ones on the wiki are only the ones that were 100% confirmed by a reliable source (aka Steven lol)
@winter parrot
winter parrot
I will keep watching for more information... Thanks
neon lantern
does anyone know if i pick paladin id be able to heal myself? (thats tank main clerc second)
rare hedge
Weapon masterrace
ruby swift
They have said that some builds will indeed be able to self heal depending on augments.
They I believe gave the paladin as that example, but you would have to go digging for the quote.
neon lantern
nah its ok
its a waiting game right now for all charecters
hmm thats kinda the same no?
slow meadow
not exactly. you don't gain any healing abilities. you simply get sustain added on to the abilities you have, through the augments.
neon lantern
well i didnt think ud gain additional healing abiilites, the healing would just be applied to current ones
a bit like what they did with fighter dash turing tinto the teleport
ruby swift
There ya go. I mis-remembered and swapped sustain with healing in my mind.
slow meadow
its an important distinction for thinking about how you will "heal" yourself. adding healing on to an existing ability isn't going to help you get back over half hp from a tank buster, but might be enough to keep you from going down to a normal attack right after.
neon lantern
could be a form of lifesteal, where u heal as u attack maybe idk
not necessarily heal urself
spiral pine
move to discussions
neon lantern
ah sorry
eager trail
Is there any expected date on when we will get more details on classes?
slow meadow
they said there will be some information shared as we move towards alpha 1 and then alpha 1 itself because its not under NDA will bring quite a bit as well.
eager trail
@slow meadow cool I'll stay on the look out
All these classes will be so cool I think
humble perch
I have a friend that has a Kickstarter account, he has kind of forgotten about the game, but after talking to he's very excited again. He is wondering if he upgrades to Braver of Worlds from his current 85.00 Pioneer package. If he would be able to get into testing, and he is asking what the current testing times are if they are persistent or not. I told him I'm not sure and about the testing times and if he would be able right away and told him I would ask thanks.
yes a friend
heavy cradle
Before I answer this question on the forums wrong - if someone is a Braver of Worlds, they can upgrade to get Alpha 1 access right? Nevermind.
humble perch
I have my own voyager accoutn plus so..
humble perch
I have voyager plus, my friend has a current pioneer packer from kickstarter
he is getting the option to physically put it in his cart and upgrade
heavy cradle
Can't he just login to the account?
humble perch
I guess because he is shy, i dunno
onyx knoll
@humble perch Yes he can upgrade to get access, no the current testing is not persistent, but alpha 2 will eb when that eventually happens
humble perch
will he get the nda form to join alpha 1?
heavy cradle
100%
Anyway I'm back to aoc-discussion, continue with questions and answers, good day.
desert ivy
Braver of World doesn't get into current testing
The current testing is for Leader of Men
They will get into A1 eventually tho
onyx knoll
@humble perch he should eb able to send an e-mail to customer support and get the NDA documents for qhen Bravers get into the QA
humble perch
BoW is alpha 1 though, so muct be very soon
onyx knoll
Oh wait you might be raight Talents
onyx knoll
I confuse Bravers and Leaders
desert ivy
Also, no, alpha 1 is not persistent
Alpha 1 will constantly be going up and down and isn't up 24/7
That's alpha 2
onyx knoll
Yeah alpha 1 will be soon-ish, a few more months at max. If he wants to get even earlier then that then I think Talents is correct he would have to upgrade to the 1000$ pack
humble perch
great thank you,,for your answers
Ya I told him I'm sure it's coming soon, but it's been very tight lipped of late
onyx knoll
They only give us exact dates when they're 100% sure they can make those dates so for now it's a bit vague, yes 🙂
humble perch
just wanted to get some confrmation before he dropped a additional 300+ on it
I appreciate it , much thanks
onyx knoll
o7
@young elk what I THINK is more of a discussion for #aoc-discussion , but I can tell you what we've been told by the devs so far 😛 We know it will be persistent, and we know some content will be place holder, mostly lore things.
vernal depot
Thanks for answering the questions for me that sandman was nice enough hunt for
onyx knoll
happy to help ^^
onyx knoll
correct, you can upgrade a pack by paying the difference
humble perch
I decided for the 375.00 because of the hopes a alpah 1 would reopen which I believe would be the same price as BoW soit wouldnt be too much more
anytime
lapis storm
We don't have any official word on threat/agro mechanics yet, correct?
onyx knoll
We know there will be threat, we know there most likely will NOT be an easy threat meter kind of thing, so you won't be able to tell if you're close to pulling agro just by looking at a meter. We know the Tank archetype has some skills that generate threat, but we don't know things like... how much agro does healing or dps generate, or can you hold aggro as a dps by just out damaging everyone, that sort of stuff will have to be tested during the alpha
dry ocean
I have a question is the alpha next to come out or the beta? I would like to know so I know which pre order pack to buy
onyx knoll
alpha 1 is the next step of testing, we're currently in QA for it
alpha 1 will be starting later this fall
full badger
The testing phases are Alpha 1 -> Alpha 2 -> Beta 0 -> Beta 1 -> Beta 2 -> Launch
onyx knoll
The 250$ and 375$ packs include access to alpha 2, which will be a persistent testing server that will begin sometime after alpha 1 but we have no date for it
full badger
Beta 0 is for people who won beta keys way back when Intrepid did giveaways during their livestreams a couple years back
tulip hatch
i believe beta 0 was canceled a while ago
full badger
Oh? My bad then
steady ocean
The current packs say clearly what you get with them @young elk
tulip hatch
yeah dont think it was a really big announcement so its an honest mistake c:
unreal zealot
i mean beta 0 would just be late late alpha just before beta 1 anyway
solid sparrow
Is there a place we can check on what the next months skins will be?
dry ocean
Is the 250 or 375 package worth it? I was wondering if this game is gonna be subscription based?
coarse sedge
This game is gonna be sub only with no box cost
unreal zealot
the packages are just there if you want to get some once in a lifetime cosmetics and access to alpha/betas as well as some extra embers and gametime ready for when it launches
also the 375 one comes with a single name reservation for one character before launch
raw gyro
i'd imagine we dont have much info on the character creator, other than steven mentioning he wants Ashes to be better than BDOs. With the promised 'sliders' of character creation, has their been mention of whether we would be able to make overweight characters?
clever quartz
agile pagoda
Question: with a flying mount, could I potentially fly from one corner of the world to another without loading screens? When travelling between continents, many MMOs simply have a loading screen. However, I am curious if the ocean is completely there? Also, what happens if I reach the corner of the ocean?
rare hedge
You wont get a flying mount so dont worry about it
agile pagoda
It's not about that..
raw gyro
HIGHLY unlikely he'll get a flying mount, but ya never know!
rare hedge
Gottem
agile pagoda
I just hate loading screens and a teleport when travelling between continents, to know the world is continuous would be amazing. I hope someone can answer that.
rare hedge
Now thats a different question compared to flying mounts
agile pagoda
I know I will never own a flying mount but someone who did, what would happen if that lucky person attempted to fly between continents?
peak wasp
i certainly hope its one continuous world... just thinking of how Atlas works and that'd be horrible
inland bear
There is planned naval content
my likely assumption is going between landmasses will be seamless and with a boat, much like in arch age where ashes is borrowing a lot of features from
peak wasp
also my assumption. I would be very suprised if they didnt
inland bear
they might be tempted to limit open sea flying like archage did, as it really really would change up naval combat being able to fly, however with the very few people with access to flying i see it being not really an issue and a huge boon for the few that do get their hands on a flying mount, the ultimate boarding method
peak wasp
didnt they say flying was limited to like 30 min a day or something super low like that?
full badger
@peak wasp Yes there will be a limit on the flying but we don't have an exact number on it yet
sharp harbor
do we know if there will be a aoe taunt ability for tanks or will it be solo taunt abilities or no taunts just defense abilites?
onyx knoll
there might be some augments that make taunts AoE, we can't say at the moment
we do know there are some taunt base skills for Tanks
sharp harbor
Sweet
dry ocean
Question by the preorder game times does that mean the subscription for when the game comes out?
full badger
Subscription starts when the game launches @dry ocean
dry ocean
I know that but by Game Time in the preorder bonus does it mean subscription
full badger
Oh, yes it does
lapis sky
One question, will it have localized adapting of currency?
Since i live in Brazil, if it is only by Euro or dollar...
full badger
@lapis sky price harmonization is something they are looking into. If they do you will be locked to a single local server, as opposed to anyone who pays the non-local price and won't be region locked
desert ivy
If they release a server in South America then the price for that server will be harmonized
However, if they don't release a South American server and you want to play on an NA server, you'll have to pay full price
desert ivy
Normally $15 a month
lapis sky
the same with FFXIV...
its not expensive, but if they want us to play only here...the game is as much as dead, sadly
at least in Brazil that everything is expensive af
desert ivy
if they release a SA server, it will be much cheaper
grizzled oasis
It will scale with your currency depending on the server region
lapis sky
FFXIV scales too, but still many people are reluctant to pay for it
desert ivy
Which is probably the reason Intrepid are also reluctant to put a server in SA.
lapis sky
and they're right
One of the reasons i think Square Enix didnt set up a SA server was because of it
We play through Steam and the prices are okay
crystal beacon
what are minimum specs for AOC?
west turtle
Rtx 3090 and 2 TB available disk space
crystal beacon
ok im good then
west turtle
lapis sky
oof
i am using an RX550 2GB, i5 3330 and 8GB RAM 667mhz lol
its a toaster, but its better than not having a GPU
crystal beacon
lapis sky
and i would participate if it wasnt 15 x 5 = almost 80 bucks
i still hope they do a free trial like WoW or FFXIV just to try it out and to see if it runs in my and many others PC's
desert ivy
They're not planning on doing any free trials
desert ivy
As in?
crystal beacon
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon It'll be separate servers, no sharding
twin garden
Can I heal myself without flagging as a combatant when someone attacks me?
manic tide
Is there somewhere that posts roughly when Alpha starts?
I think I wanna opt in for early access for alpha/beta if it isn't too late
Alright, thanks and Ebin no worries 🙂
Free to do so 😊
If they're at Alpha 2 I'd assume they're still pretty far out
rare hedge
Not even at alpha 1 yet im pretty sure
onyx knoll
Alpha 1 will be starting later this fall, so yes alpha 2 is still fairly far off
manic tide
Dang and Alpha 1 orders are closed so I can't even pick up this fall
rare hedge
Nop
arctic sky
Is there a question here? Otherwise different channel please
onyx knoll
They stated they MIGHT re-open alpha 1 sales, but that's not guaranteed
oblique igloo
Members always be larping as mods in this channel lol
onyx knoll
The server rules should be observed even when mods aren't there 😉 Don't need a mod to remind people to respect them
oblique igloo
Xenellia that doesnt look like a question
potent thunderBOT
still wyvern
👀
junior sky
I am confused
so the Aoc-discussions channel is for discussions about everything but aoc and the general-discussions channel is for only aoc related stuff?
lol
tulip hatch
Please dont make jokes in the questions channels.
People come here for help or answers and they shouldnt be further confused or trolled.
tulip hatch
As for the folks who have been helpful in informing others about the rules we appreciate you greatly
Please continue directing the channel properly and being helpful community members.
unreal zealot
do i get a gold star on my chart?
tulip hatch
Now please use this channel properly for Questions and Answers only
All comments/discussions/opinions should be taken to the #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion channels
Thank you
crystal beacon
is there going to be a dungeon / raid finder?
desert ivy
No
desert ivy
Dungeons and raids in Ashes are 80% open world as well
crystal beacon
since its a giant bother to get a group
i dont have many friends 😂
thats why i quit wow
desert ivy
That's why I joined a guild for Ashes
crystal beacon
ye me too
but i feel if i play as a casual since i work
they will out level me and move on
desert ivy
There are casual guilds
If you check #aoc-guild-recruitment, they're usually listed by their competitiveness. So Hardcore/Semi-Hardcore/Casual
shell cedar
Find a guild that revolves around a 9-5 schedule
crystal beacon
how long are the alphas / betas?
desert ivy
We don't know. All we know is alphas will be longer than the betas.
worldly zinc
Anyone know how to get into the game.
Meaning, before I purchase any of the content is alpha or beta going on?
slow meadow
game is still pre-alpha. alpha 1 starts this fall but is no longer available to purchase. alpha 2 does not have a date at this time.
worldly zinc
Dam so September 24th is the alpha release?
onyx knoll
No, "sometime in late fall" is the closest we have to a date
worldly zinc
I have the warrior princess and the hallowed greataxe from when the battle areana was open in 2018. will that transfer to the new game? and is there a way to play in the battle royal version of this game again?
onyx knoll
Anything you earned through the Adventurer path of APOC will be transferred to the MMO, yes.
They mentioned they might re-open APOC after alpha 1
desert ivy
Yes the cosmetic skins will transfer. No you can't play the BR now.
worldly zinc
https://ashesofcreation.com/news/class-list is this the correct updated list of classes?
small pecan
Yes! Has not changed in a long while
slow meadow
no
surreal elk
@slow meadow Steven said it will be under NDA until end of fall. So it's a yes/no answer
slow meadow
@surreal elk when I looked in to that comment from steven it appears to mean that they would not be lifting the NDA on PI and LoM early like they had discussed and that the NDA would remain in place until the end of fall when the main Alpha 1 testing begins. So actual Alpha 1 will still not have an NDA.
surreal elk
Good looking out, I was under the impression the statement meant NDA until end of fall this meaning everyone till end of fall. BOW included
slow meadow
it could use a bit of clarification, but if steven is saying that alpha 1 is happening at the end of fall, and that the NDA lifts at the end of fall, I'm pretty confident he was referring to his previous statement about lifting the NDA on the pre-alpha testing not happening.
fierce cloak
Do we have any idea how viable secondary cleric classes will be? I understand the primary cleric will be strongest healer, but what about the difference of healing strength between the other archetypes who pick cleric secondary? Will a ranger X cleric be a better healer than a mage X cleric? Or will all secondary cleric options be more or less similar?
slow meadow
No class that takes cleric as its secondary will be a healer. Your role in the game is determined by your primary. Adding cleric as your secondary may give you access to an augment which will add sustain to your abilities. Cleric and Bard primaries have been the only healers when Intrepid have talked about healers.
fierce cloak
So how different will a secondary class make your gameplay change? Is it just a gimmick kind of thing with different visual effects but not much meaningful change in gameplay? I imagined it kind of as how WoW has classes with 3 specs to choose from, but here classes have 8 specs. Is it not accurate to think of the gameplay change a secondary class brings as similar to the specs in WoW?
untold belfry
No one knows
fierce cloak
Fair enough, thought I would ask anyways
untold belfry
@fierce cloak Personally, I imagine it similar to ESO augments
surreal elk
@fierce cloak so far we have limited information and examples to give you, it will be something tested in A2. The best example we have is the charge ability being augmented by a Mage secondary making the charge ability no longer having a charge animation but you now blink to the targets location
Everything else is pure speculation on how augments will work
summer flame
As an NA player, will I need to purchase/sub a second account to play on OCE servers?
slow meadow
Secondaries will be meaningful when you apply an augment to an ability. As example having a fighter who has a charge taking mage as secondary and applying something like a teleport augment would result in the charge becoming something more akin to a blink and have different restrictions where you wouldn't have to worry about getting body blocked by something in way of the charge. So abilities will change functionality while keeping their core purpose. How far they will push that change isn't something we will see in full until A2.
tulip hatch
@summer flame as in you originally played on NA but want to go to OCE?
summer flame
@tulip hatch Yes.
uncut perch
i really should find an oceanic guild/clan oof..
tulip hatch
Not sure if it'll still work this way as it was the statement for my.games
But they said you'll be able to transfer your account to your desired region
summer flame
Sweet, hopefully it stays that way.
crystal beacon
desert ivy
People have been banned for buying kickstarters before so yes, it is a big naughty
crystal beacon
It breaks the TOS
uncut perch
the world map for ashes, every sqaure box is a potential node spot correct?
wanton fox
@tulip hatch Didnt intrepid and my.games split?
little kiln
Yes
However, they are still working on something to take its place for EU users that is likely a few weeks or more out
desert ivy
No because publishing in EU is much more difficult than elsewhere, that's why they hired my.games as the publisher in 2018 until they decided that they would try and self publish
You declare war against the nodes
And then depending on what level the node you are declaring war against is, you will have to wait a certain amount of days before you can attack it
Anyone, but you need a siege scroll which are very expensive
Depending on the node you attack you'll need a lot of resources to attack them. Higher the nodes level the more effort and resources you need to put in to win
Yes
Guilds don't own nodes
You can't declare war on a node you're a citizen of
Plus anyone can sign up to attack or defend a node
Yes, all characters on that server are bound to citizenship on that node
They can of course get rid of their citizenship but that has a cooldown of 2 weeks before they can change citizenship again
grizzled oasis
Also the cost of wasting a siege scroll on a small invlun period will not be worth it - apparently.
In the case of two allied nodes taking turns sieging eachother and then not participating
also a random guild could come by and destroy the node using the siege you initiated
I think its supposed to be a big event, something extremely uncommon.
cedar heath
Steven talked about it on a live AMA a while ago. Using a siege scroll on an area you want to defend (to trigger the invulnerable period) isn't advisable, because anyone can join the attack. You're just wasting time/effort/resources to trigger an attack that enemies then don't have to use up.
surreal elk
They are around. The forums display their badge If you need verification, but yes some are in the discord
ruby swift
Anything concerning development for those with higher packages would be under NDA. The only tags that currently display for higher level KS backers are PI and LoM.
silver python
Is there any information on what the Phoenix Aura will look like?
surreal elk
@silver python not really no
vernal swallow
Does anyone have a speculation on what would be the system requirements for the ultra settings? Apoc players/testers might be able to answer?
full badger
@vernal swallow The devs have said they intend the game to be playable on hardware 3-5 years old
Also, for reference, the 4k footage from Steven was recorded on an i7 7700 and a GTX 1080ti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwaYLOuw2s
vernal swallow
Also, for reference, the 4k footage from Steven was recorded on an i7 7700 and a GTX 1080ti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwaYLOuw2s
@full badger oh that's insightful
steady ocean
@vernal swallow https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha_testing_system_requirements Shows the min and recommended specs for alpha testers. The game at launch may require different specs, but you can speculate based off of those
hallow pond
even if my comment belong in discussion, when/if then update to unreal 5, its hopefully playable in 4k on a 2060 nvidia
full badger
You don't need UE5 to play at 4k
buoyant sapphire
Do we know what armor type Summoners are going to be optimized for? Like how clerics get buffs to medium armor and tanks get buffs to the heaviest type of armor.
slate harbor
@hallow pond doesnt make sense
grim breach
Do we know what armor type Summoners are going to be optimized for? Like how clerics get buffs to medium armor and tanks get buffs to the heaviest type of armor.
@buoyant sapphire None of the specifics yet but each classes will have their most suitable types of weapon and armor.
empty palm
Do we know if there will be friendly NPC towns/cities/villages that spawn in the world? Also, will we have a rich story line to follow, or is it all non-linear?
tulip hatch
There are no cities present in Ashes when the world first launches, only starting camps near the divine gates.
The world develops as players gain exp and participate in an area, once the area levels up itll gain NPCs and begin to look like an encampment then into a proper village
There is story and story arcs with plenty of lore and narrative but you can also choose to ignore them
Ashes of Creation has themepark and sandbox elements, developers dubbing it a Themebox. You can play and develop how you want but there will be content provided with every stone players unturn.
slow willow
Are the skills and abilities from Apocalypse also going to be used in the MMO or was Apoc specifically to test out engine/network stuff?
rough meadow
Question: Can summoners be able to summon "elementals?" Like for example: Summoner + Mage or?
grizzled latch
some skills might be used from apoc, potion launcher wont be a normal player option for regular combat. It may be added eslewhere though.
Many changes to skills will happen though, lots of testing and alterations to be made.
tulip hatch
@rough meadow you can apply element augments making your summons elemental creatures
lime kayak
@tulip hatch was that confirmed anywhere? As far as I know summoner abilities are one big question mark. Elemental augments might as well simply give them elemental attacks or resistances rather than change the summon type
little kiln
Its mentioned in the warlock page of the wiki
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Warlock
Mage/Summoner
tulip hatch
There's also an example provided in the summons specifically
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Summons
Augments from; racials/secondaries/religion etc have the potential to change the summon type
The exact depth is indeed unknown at this time
strong drum
Interesting on summons - says summoner can summon each type of summons - example tank - i wonder if this means it could be group tank viable or just questing viable
tulip hatch
Summoners are stated as the jack of all trades with the ability to fill a role that is needed if they're built for it
strong drum
Similar to druid for wow then i guess
still take considerable amount of investment to main any one line hopefully - im planning necro and its cool if i can just tank dps or support but it seems a bit unfair on someone who can only tank with their class
little kiln
jack of all trades, master of none
strong drum
thats probably a better explaination
then who will raid with a summoner if it masters nothing - raiding is always min maxing no avoiding that
tulip hatch
it would be based on the summoner secondary instead of the class itself
So Summoner primaries can make greater use of their secondary classes due to their summons augmented with them.
However this still means if you want to fill a tank role your secondary needs to be tank
Healing needs to be a cleric and so on
So it's not a instant you're a summoner so you can do it all
Like i stated they need to build to fill x role
This isnt a channel for discussions though
It's a wonderful topic that should be taken to #aoc-discussion
hallow torrent
what is the best way to submit questions for the next QA?
little kiln
little kiln
will spectacles/glasses be a thing as either a cosmetic or accessory item?
tulip hatch
That hasnt been stated yet but its not an unreasonable thought.
We have had masks/eye patches as cosmetics before
little kiln
I will buy all the things if you add them in.
(would make a good jewlers craft item!)
unreal zealot
as long as i can be a rouge dressed as a maid ill be happy
tulip hatch
haha best place to put suggestions like that would be the forums so they get seen!
Im sure youre not the only one wanting them
little kiln
What would be the best place to put that besides the Dev stream Q&A thread?
steady ocean
Create your own thread on the official forums in the general discussion section.
warm rune
if AoC got office in EU then it means it will be here EU Store?
little kiln
Eventually, yes. it should be done within a couple weeks according to them
empty field
Since AoC isn't based in EU, will we see favoritism to NA servers since they are closer? I've seen this in multiple games which is why it can be something that could happen.
tulip hatch
Favoritism in what way?
unreal zealot
in terms of their own cosmetics and stuff i doubt it unless it goes against laws or morals of a reigon like for china death is a very touchy subject you cant show bones and such
little kiln
welp, this game will be banned in china then.
unreal zealot
in terms of other cosmetics maybe crossovers if they ever look in that direction like lets say... AOC x the Witcher for some geralt cosmetics might be region locked due to the agreement of the other company of said cross over.
native warren
Will archetype base what weapons you will find easier to use?
full badger
@native warren We don't have any details on it yet but some weapons will be better suited to certain archetypes yes
native warren
well like rogue with like a dagger goes without saying but i meant like blunt/blade
i could just watch dev stream they could cover it
full badger
@native warren We haven't been told anything about different damage types for physical weapons, so it's unlikely, but who knows
native warren
it's a fair question tho so hopefully it will be answered soon
empty palm
On the topic of cosmetics, will we at some point be able to craft our own cosmetics?
true finch
@native warren Well shield rogue could end being the meta, bc of some sort of interaction. We don´t know, Intrepid doesn´t know. They are currently not that far into development.
@empty palm We will certainly be able to alter some of the cosmetics. With dye you can change color
@modest comet Where did you get that info from ? Pretty sure that would be bad in terms of Intelluctual Property unless they have some agreement. Edit i pm you
unreal zealot
it was just an example i pulled out my ass dont need to read into it to much
native warren
@true finch don't think you quite understood my question
but i appreciate the answer
misty wasp
hi, when we can expect officiall release date? 2022?
native warren
I also don't think you read what you typed lol
onyx knoll
@misty wasp We have no real estimate, only guesses. 2022/2023 are popular guesses within the community
@native warren Your class might have a passive that makes it that some weapon or armors are better suited for it, so you might find that some weapons are easier to use. You'll also have skills that require specific weapons for example you can't shield bash without a shield.
We don't have the full list of skills yet so we can't say for sure, but we know that each weapon has its own skill set, so a blunt weapon like a hammer would play differently then a sharp weapon like a sword even tho they're both 1 hand weapons
native warren
@onyx knoll that was essentially my question thx
onyx knoll
o7
native warren
also it would be pretty funny to see a shield bash without a shield
i imagine there's some sort of charge tho?
like a version of that skill without
tulip hatch
Some skills will be unusable with certain weapons
Shield bash for example can not be used without a shield
So thats something to take into consideration when youre building your class
onyx knoll
Most ranger skills require a ranged weapon, hard to shoot arrows with a sword. But you'll be able to change weapons mid-combat, so you could carry multiple weapons and switch them around depending on the situation 🙂
native warren
no yeah yeah but like there's probably another skill like for the same class that is just charge without a shield and bash em
get what i mean?
tulip hatch
a gap closer
Then yes there will be other skills that have similar functions that can be used with other weapon types
A lot of these things have not been clarified or expanded on though
onyx knoll
I see what you mean, there might be ways to change your shield bash into something else that doesn't require a shield with your secondary augments, but we don't have much on the specifics of those yet so we can't say for sure
onyx knoll
We should start getting more in depth info on the secondary augments during alpha 2 ^^
native warren
10-4
warm rune
so AoC gonna use also in Netherlands datacenter?
true finch
@warm rune Until now frankfurt has been the location. But its probable they will move it close to their office. I hope we get more info in the next livestream.
warm rune
i see... Well NL have also great datacenters too. like LoL use also Datacenter in Amsterdam.
desert ivy
Theyre using amazon Web services for their servers so they won't be in Netherlands. Most likely still Germany
true finch
Ye, i think they chose it for their EUW region since its the center of the region roughly. Frankfurt would be closer to the center when you want to please the entirety of EU
unreal zealot
honestly whatever happens now i think the community will be happier for it
random trench
NL for fiscal reasons
warm rune
like for EU Store Tax/Law EU?
abstract mountain
Know this been answered but cant find it, if I made the purchase in NA I dont need to do any change, it can be used in EU realms right?
unreal zealot
we dont know atm since they got rid of my.games but i would assume accounts will hopfully cross between eu and na for servers.
fair dirge
Will there be Chinese in the future?
unreal zealot
maybe Chinese hasnt been confirmed
full badger
Later on down the line you'll likely be able to transfer your account to EU @abstract mountain
warm rune
if you made purchase NA then you still can use them in EU servers.
full badger
@fair dirge Chinese won't be supported at launch but if there is enough demand for it they may add it post-launch
abstract mountain
Ok thx 😊
crystal beacon
Hello guys, EU player here. I am thinking about buying one of these pre order packs but it seems like mygames.com has disabled any option to do so...as you can imagine my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined :c Will package from official site also work on EU server?
abstract mountain
Oh shit, reviewbrah the legend
full badger
mygames.com is no longer running things for intrepid. You can purchase packs from the Ashes NA site in the meantime until they get things up and running in EU again @crystal beacon
warm rune
Well.. idk if Intrepid will add own EU Store soon.
storm lodge
Brazillians or South Americans in general will have a server for them?
desert ivy
Not at this time, but maybe in the future
warm rune
i think EU offices is test first time by Intrepid if it used then they might add office in SA too.
full badger
@storm lodge Intrepid are looking into price harmonization and local servers for South America, but we haven't had confirmation on it yet. What we do know is that if they add in price harmonized servers for SA you will be region-locked to those servers
storm lodge
@full badger yea, i saw steven talking about region-locked server because of the price harmonization. I just wanted to know if that was a confirmation of the existancy of the server or if he was just talking about a possibility
full badger
At the moment it's just a possibility
If it does happen it won't happen until the game fully launches, so we have time
crystal beacon
@full badger thanks man@warm rune maybe I should just wait till the end of the year, hopefully they can pull it off before alpha 2 starts
warm rune
well AWS have location datacenter in Sao Paulo
desert ivy
Alpha 2 is a long time away, like a year or so most likely
warm rune
ya still earlier
quaint hound
Do we know if the Alpha 1 or Alpha 2 will be on the full map or smaller test map?
grim breach
Small
arctic sky
1 smaller for sure
onyx knoll
@quaint hound They're on the real map, but a reduced portion of it. Alpha 1 will be around 20% of the map, alpha 2 will probably start will a small portion and add stuff as time goes on until there is almost everything
quaint hound
Sound, I've been a bit on off in terms of keeping up to date on the information as of late. I only just recently learnt the Alpha 1 is scheduled for later this year.
Much appreciated. @onyx knoll
onyx knoll
o7
wild hemlock
What is the siz number of people who can buy into Alpha 1?
onyx knoll
Alpha 1 sales are presently closed
They were aiming for around 10k people for the alpha 1 tests. Steven said they MIGHT reopen the sales if they see the servers can handle those numbers
wild hemlock
Nice. The 250.00 Package has Alpha 2 access. I have Beta'd lots of games, but would love to be in an Alpha, especially one where someone like Steve is Producing it. It is apparent his love of the Genre and his passion it is done right. I think that flows down to the entire team.
onyx knoll
Indeed ^^ In case you didn't realize, the cosmetics included in the pack change monthly so if you're not a fan of what is there currently you can just wait until there is a look that calls to you do buy the pack. Alpha 2 won't be for a while still, alpha 1 is starting later this fall.
quaint hound
What is the maximum number of characters in a family?
lusty kite
8
warm rune
per account or can same chars in one account?
onyx knoll
families are not an account thing, your family can include other players
warm rune
SWTOR have also part of Family but it works only on own account
onyx knoll
they're different in this game, think of them more as like mini-guilds
lusty kite
Family sizes are limited to eight characters.[1]
warm rune
ah i see
quaint hound
Do we know if there will be any classes/professions that will offer teleportation aka summoning (WoW Warlocks) or portals (Mages WoW)?
onyx knoll
@quaint hound The family system is the only thing that will offer long distance summons. Nothing class-specific
Tier 6 scientific nodes will also have some kind of teleporting within that node's zone of influence
lusty kite
@quaint hound I believe the answer is NO! 🙂 The plan is to avoid the teleports and such for the most part
quaint hound
Sound. 😄
sharp harbor
will there be racial passives?
onyx knoll
Yes but we don't know the details of what they will be yet
sharp harbor
kk thank you ❤️
shy trellis
do you guys know if we will be able to respec skill points or are we stuck with the skills we choose?
full badger
@shy trellis There will be ways to respec skill points but we have no details on it yet
shy trellis
alright, thanks man
burnt laurel
I feel respecing is a pretty touchy subject. There are good reasons to not allow respec at all but also very good reasons to allow it. Depends on the overall design philosophy I guess... In PoE it kindof works I think because you don't really need all that much time to create a new character and level it up. In an MMO like this it would probably be way too punishing to not have anything approaching that.
Btw. are discussions prohibited from this channel or is it fine to elaborate a bit?
arctic sky
They don't want long discussions in here it's mainly for facts
burnt laurel
alrighty
winter parrot
Will there be a few roads outside of the starting area? How do find the node locations, simply run around the countryside till we find one?
onyx knoll
@winter parrot You'll be starting at the divine gates, and be directed through a quest initially in a tutorial-like way. That is optional tho and you can chose to ignore this starter area and just run off into the wilderness. We don't have a lot of detail of what the map will look like initially, so i'm not sure if there will be paths at first, but the camps/towns will pop up as people kill things or complete objectives.
winter parrot
Mainly starting off, do we know how one is to find the location and type of node they need or want
full badger
The node types and locations are pre-determined. Whether we will have that information on launch or not is up for debate I feel
onyx knoll
If you keep an eye out on alpha 2 you might be able to get an idea of where the nodes are 🙂 So far it doesn't look like they plan to make it obvious on the in-game map, as they want to encourage players to explore and discover things
novel ice
Any word on controller support
winter parrot
I guess I am rushing things, I can wait till they want to release more information on the subject
desert ivy
@novel ice My dude, you've asked this twice in the past 2-3 weeks alone. Answer is still no.
winged yoke
I'm currently in NA right now and I'm having trouble logging into AOC. Would the split from my.games be the reason on why I can't log on?
full badger
There have been issues with the login of the forums on the Ashes website recently. I thought they were fixed but maybe there are still problems
onyx knoll
@winged yoke Are you a Leader of Men backer?
Or did you mean logging in on the forums
winged yoke
Into the game itself, would I have to be a backer to gain early access?
onyx knoll
The game is currently unavailable to test
The only people that have access at the moment are Leader of Men kickstarter backers
And even they don't have access all the time, only when Intrepid opens testing sessions for them 🙂
winged yoke
Gotcha, and do they post announcements for when servers are open for general users here?
full badger
You'll receive an email when it's your turn to test the game, with information on how to access it
onyx knoll
Did you purchase any of the pre-order packs?
winged yoke
No, I'm thinking about it though
cedar cypress
Any information you'll need will be send through mail.
onyx knoll
that's the only way you can gain access to the game early, tho they did mention doing beta key raffles and giveaways eventually so maybe you can wait and hope to be lucky with those 🙂
winged yoke
Ok thanks for taking the time to clarify some stuff with me
onyx knoll
anytime ^^
potent igloo
Hi I just got some questions about the fake siege war strategy.
If you want to prevent other guild for sieging your node, then is to have an alt guild/node that you control siege your main node to trigger the cool down timer. Is the node siege have a limit for how many can join like castle siege 250v250? if node siege also only allow 250player on either defender or attacker side, and a guild can have up to 300players. So they basically just fill all slots with their own people. How can AOC prevent the fake war? According to the wiki , the player who declare the siege cannot remove other player who join the siege, so impossible to remove fake player , but also if possible to remove player, they just basically remove who not on the fake war agreement side. For siege scroll part, how hard to get it, is it harder than leveling a node from ZERO? If not why not the metro node farm the siege scroll for fake war?
full badger
@potent igloo We don't have all the details on it yet but Steven has addressed this concern in the past.
give me a sec, let me find the quote
@potent igloo This is from the reddit AMA that Steven did last month
full badger
so it changed my name good but it doesnt display the change?
@crystal beacon @plucky pawn any ideas on this?
potent igloo
@full badger I watched that interview as well. Just wondering is node siege have number limit that player can join? If no limit, fake flag won’t work
plucky pawn
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lilac osprey
Are the kickstarter packages still available somehow, or are the shop packages the only available packages now?
full badger
@potent igloo The max number of players who can participate in a castle siege is 250 per side. I don't know if that's the same for node sieges
onyx knoll
@lilac osprey the kickstarter closed in 2017, if you didn't back it then then you can't get into it anymore
lilac osprey
Such a shame, the packages were so good 😦
onyx knoll
So yes, at the moment the pre-order packs on the shop is the only thing you can buy
yeah they really were
lilac osprey
So there is no way to get into the Alpha 1 in Fall now anymore?
potent igloo
@full badger because if limit you 250player. Other guild can basically help each other to trigger the cool down. As large guild can have up to 300members
lilac osprey
And no way to enter the 2 day prelaunch event either?
onyx knoll
@lilac osprey nope, those will be on specific servers tho so you can avoid them if you want
lilac osprey
Id like to join them much rather XD
onyx knoll
well, you can.... 2 days later xD
mint elm
burnt laurel
Question: can someone point me to how feature creep has been addressed in the past? Steven is really enthusiastic but I kinda get low-key no man's sky vibes by the amount of "yes absolutely" and "of course we will have that" to every feature or question someone asks him in the interview I have watched. So is there any info on what ashes won't have or be?
desert ivy
There isn't any feature creep really. They haven't really added anything other than what they originally planned
It's one of the things they've made sure they don't do
Anything they didn't already have planned from the start will be added once the game has launched
burnt laurel
While I would love to take that on face value it is hard to believe that over 3 years they stayed true to their initial design document
desert ivy
It's why even some of the kickstarter goals may not be there at launch, because they didn't originally plan for it
burnt laurel
Hm okay
desert ivy
@simple ether Can explain it better
burnt laurel
Still would love to have sources for that 
dark jungle
@burnt laurel https://youtu.be/KtVUiS7yAHE?t=5505
burnt laurel
Kinda want to be sure before I get hyped for something again 
ivory dust
Feel you but ashes looks legit so far
dark jungle
what i will say is as a commitment from the development side we're not going to go down the path of scope creep. we i have a very very very clear vision of all of the systems designs mechanics that are present within the game and we're sticking to that vision and we're not adding additional features and prolonging the development -- Steven Sharif
burnt laurel
Ah that's exactly what I was searching for, thanks
novel ice
Most of their designs arent all that out there for an up-to-date 2020 engine since alot of the stuff Ashes is implementing already exist in older games 10 years ago. The fact the world will be mostly empty until the players activate the node levels doesnt hurt either. Means the servers will slowly take on code stress rather than all at once.
The mechanics of combat active and passive is the only thing that I worry about.
lost shuttle
when it comes out, will there be any way to get a month of play without paying real money?
lusty kite
@lost shuttle probably not; it is only $15+ for a month to play once the game launches
From the wiki: Payment model
Game time is currently purchasable in Pre-order packs
This allows us to avoid the pay to win mentality many free-to-play games employ, as well as maintain a steady flow of new content for all our players
Ashes of Creation (the MMORPG) is a subscription based game.
The monthly subscription fee is USD $14.99
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So far we have seen a minimap during testing