vapid loom
but I can't
#questions
steep pecan
Is it possible to gift friends preorder packs?
steep pecan
for sure
primal solstice
Hi do you know if the game will be playable in israel?
desert ivy
The game is playable from anywhere
primal solstice
Thx 👍
woven vale
However, prices will be localized based on server, so you can play on an NA server but you will get NA prices, ect
stray ferry
Hi is the game on alpha testing? Since when?
woven vale
Some backers are playing right now though.
stray ferry
Backers? O.o
woven vale
KS Backers
stray ferry
What is a backer?
woven vale
People who backed the game a long time back on kickstarter, and later summer backers will be invited
It'll go Kickstarter - Summer Backers - Ashes Pack Shop
desert ivy
Backers refer to people who bought certain packs. The current backers are people who bought into the Kickstarter in 2017
desert ivy
Yes
But it's going to be late fall, and technically fall ends on the 21st of December, so potentially we could be waiting until December for the alpha to start
woven vale
Hopefully, sooner but I just want to see an A1 release.
stray ferry
Oh nice me too
woven vale
Though I really want to see A2 as that will have action combat integration
stray ferry
I want to play this so bad :c
woven vale
We all do, cries in pre 2020 release date we were given a long time ago
desert ivy
Alpha 1 will have action combat as well
desert ivy
Nope, we're getting it in A1 now
woven vale
Oh, I didn't know this, thanks mate.
west ember
Man I remember playing the BR hoping it has improved since then.
I think I will mainly focus on PVP though. Tend to have a thing for fighting.
limber spindle
What is Steven trying to go for in terms of weapon/Armor making for custom gear or set gear in place with their own %? And if it was customizable what would the % be in terms of customization and what sort of stats would be able to be put on to the gear?
Right on thanks. I was curious cause I came from UO as a blacksmith/imbuer and just curious to see if the crafting was all rng or pure customizable from 0 way. And might not have the information but wanting to know the specific stats that would be on weapons. HCI, HLD, SSI, DI, and other modifers like that.
indigo ledge
I kind of wish we knew more about processing. i'm down with some middle man smelting...
I see, I see.
junior sky
How to get a normal sleep schedule and not be wide awake at 5am?
echo kraken
hey any know if we have some aa in the game or is like click like eso ?
but do we have aa or i have to spam click for aa ?
i just tried eso and i hate it lol
i dont find any mele combat gameplay video
desert ivy
There aren't auto attacks in ashes in the traditional sense
You have to press a button to attack with your weapon if you're not using skills
Can't just right click an enemy and auto attack forever
echo kraken
ok but the think i didt like on eso i didt feel the power of my skill at all how is the feeling on ash when you pressing buton ? like (doing mortal strike or execute in wow you feel you hit hard the enemy )
full badger
It's too early to tell that right now
desert ivy
Can't really say yet since we'ren ot even in alpha
echo kraken
i hope we will feel the power and is not like doing big rotation for (normal damage aa do on any normal mmo )
full badger
Once the NDA lifts at the end of fall this year we'll be able to get a better idea of how the combat feels
Until then, hold tight and wait
echo kraken
im mele player i dont want a (spell mele feeling ) you know what i mean ?
full badger
I do. Tell you what, if you want to discuss it more and what games you enjoyed the combat in, feel free to use the #aoc-discussion channel or make a post on the official forums
echo kraken
thx 🙂
feral harness
I thought aoc didn't have an NDA?
full badger
Right now there is an NDA in place. At the end of fall the NDA should be lifted completely and there will be Ashes footage aplenty. Aside from that, a couple of the tests have had the NDA lifted slightly so people can talk about their experience but not show any footage of it.
ruby swift
Actually the full NDA is still in effect. Only specific tests have have had the visual only relaxed.
full badger
Yeah my bad, changed my post above
frank reef
Is the game currently in alpha/beta/what?
And how much does it cost to pre-order to be able to play now?
full badger
The game is currently in pre-alpha @frank reef
You cannot play the game right now. The most you can do is buy a pack to get into Alpha 2, which should happen sometime next year
frank reef
Oh :/ that far out still. Ok thanks
feral harness
Do we have any information on what the devs dislike gameplay wise from other mmo? Like earlier mention not having an 'aa' or world market. Or even stuff they want to try and replicate (besides player driven drama), like if they prefer quests similar to lineage/terra/wow vs quests similar to xiv vs 'no msq only sides' like EvE/Star Citizen(technically).
It seems like we know a lot about the basic stuff but not really a lot about anything that isn't run around and attack -blank-. (Kinda reminds me of a west-fantasy take on Mabinogi thus far.)
full badger
Odd
It's working for me just fine
Put in a ticket
@feral harness We have a great deal of information on what the devs like and dislike from previous mmorpgs. Is there anything in particular you were looking for?
feral harness
From everything I've seen it's been talk on consumerism, pay2win, and player driven drama vs game/story driven drama. But not so much in the way of what quests will look like, what guilds/clans/alliances would look like, if there even is a 'main story' or just world events.
Another thing that has been on my mind is player density. They've talked about trying to keep all zones relevant but nodes vs population doesn't seem to add up in terms of a server being able to...well interact with regular frequency (like with how the economy seems to work, just simply having the economy churn out stuff to use.)
real sleet
@crystal beacon I think to remember that there is some kind of time lock how often you can change your forum name. I think it was once a month.
full badger
@feral harness Regarding quests, there will be narrative quests although Steven has said that this will be kept mostly under-wraps until the game launches as he doesn't want to spoil the surprise
real sleet
Probably try again in a few hours then?
full badger
@feral harness As for the whole player density thing, that is a discussion I would take to the forums to get input from everyone about.
feral harness
@full badger story: right, I'm just curious if it'll take the form of something akin to wow/swtor where it just kinda exists or if it'll be like xiv where it's practically a well made book series/jrpg/tv-show lol
Density: fair enough. I haven't jumped into the forums yet but I guess I'll get to that sooner rather than later xD
full badger
This is pure speculation from me but given Steven's DnD background, I'm guessing it's closer to FFXIV in terms of meaning, but we'll have to see what happens later on @feral harness
little kiln
Will there be wipes between the various alpha and beta tests before final release?
full badger
Yes, the servers will be wiped before the full release of the game @little kiln
little kiln
Perfect. A good chance to test the different class combos that interest me
What type of in game economy is planned? Straight barter, or generic gold system? If coins, will there be other coinage besides the generic gold coin or setting equivalent?
steady ocean
barter + gold coins as far as we know.
tiny vigil
First of all, I'm sorry I ask this, but anyone knows anything about full release?
steady ocean
No confirmed dates, probably several years before full release
tiny vigil
Aight, thanks
full badger
@tiny vigil Don't be afraid to ask questions, that's why we're here 🙂
If we know the answer, we'll tell you
queen snow
will there be a dev live stream at the end of this month?
steady ocean
There should be in some form.
rugged dock
in some form.
🤔
steady ocean
AMA/livestream/youtube vid, etc. Should be some kind of update, usually in a livestream format though.
queen snow
niiiice
fickle wigeon
I'm a little out of loop, which phase are we in right now?
steady ocean
Pre-Alpha if you want to think of it like that. Alpha 1 release sometime late fall.
fickle wigeon
Thx
proper crown
Anyone know what Dwarves will look like? (traditional mountain dwarves, so far the streams and pictures I've seen they were depicted more as bite-sized humans rather than dwarves, I was wondering if this was just because of early stages or creative choices?
crystal beacon
dwarves are just short fat humans are they not
rigid rose
@proper crown everything in the videos has been early, they have said the character models/animation will be getting multiple more passes 🙂
proper crown
Ah great, I was already hoping/expecting but good to know :)
proper crown
Do we know how far in progress we might get/are supposed to go on a node with 1 clan? (ignoring other factors/nodes etc and for for why not let's say 10 people clan with 4-6 hours per day)
full badger
@proper crown only vague estimates right now, and those will likely get tuned further down the line
little kiln
So I’m fairly anti social and haven’t had the best luck with random groups most of the time.
How viable will solo pve be? I’m not expecting to take on a 40 man or 16 man pve activity solo,
But with enough skill, perseverance, and gear/level will one be able to do most content solo?
reef osprey
no
full badger
@little kiln The devs have been very clear that they expect you to group up for a lot of the activities in Ashes. That said, there will be things you can do solo, and you should be able to level up solo if you want to.
reef osprey
there will be content for solo players, but a lot to most will require a group @little kiln
little kiln
I see. Ah well.
reef osprey
@little kiln i've seen a couple of guilds recruiting that mostly consist of solo players.
They look for skilled players who aren't really interested in the group play/community/guild aspect, but would group up if necessary for certain content
like a loose coalition of solo players, to profit of the guild perks and have other solo players on retainer in case you need to do group content
little kiln
Gotcha.
little kiln
What is the final rating of the game planned to be? T, M?
rare hedge
idk ask the man himself @idle siren
midnight goblet
I have a interpid studio next to me
should I ask them physically 
joking ofc, but there is one near me
reef osprey
T
high whale
Will AoC work on ultra-wide screen with resolution ratio of 32:9?
full badger
We don't know what screen resolutions will definitely be supported by the game @high whale
last horizon
I saw that AOC Apocolypse was using Anti-Cheat. Do we know if the regular MMO is going to use this? I ask, because I'm on Linux and we're having wonderful luck getting games to work, but if they have anti-cheat it probably never will. 😦
full badger
There will be some form of anti-cheating system and monitoring in place for the mmo, but we have no details on it right now
@last horizon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Security_systems
last horizon
Sad day. 😦
full badger
Also, regarding Linux, they may put in native Linux support for the game later on down the line (after launch) but again, no details on it yet
last horizon
Wonder if they'd be willing to work with Google Stadia or Geforce Now platforms.
full badger
The game won't be released on Steam so I doubt it will be released on Stadia or Geforce Now
last horizon
Sad sad day. 😦
full badger
Things can change. If you want to, make a thread on the forums about it and see if other people feel the same way as you. Intrepid are always looking for feedback on their decisions
last horizon
I'm sure there's some people, but never enough. And Linux threads attract trolls. 😦 Maybe I will though. IDK.
Looks like it has already been brought up and shutdown.
little kiln
Will there be any type of respeccing allowed in game? Class, atributes, economy professions ect?
full badger
You'll be able to change your secondary class and respecc your augments but we have no details on it yet. No information about changing crafting professions either yet.
little kiln
oh well thats good at least.
will apocalypse be returning or was it shut down for good?
full badger
APOC will return after Alpha 1 to test the castle sieges
little kiln
will APOC be a permanent thing with semi regular updates or will it just be a tech/combat demo every now and again?
full badger
I don't know the answer to that, sorry
little kiln
ah thats fine mate.
has there been any more detailed info on character creation besides "as good as or better than BDO"? for example, fancy colours. I always play as an albino type of character for looks (white/silver hair and red eyes) and despite BDO's character creation, ive been unable to make that 😄
full badger
Nothing detailed about that yet, sorry
little kiln
mhm. hope we can
golden coral
@little kiln the Alpha 1 will be later this year so we can probably see most of the features on character creation but right now the haven't told us anything on that.
reef osprey
@crystal beacon why not just dodge his server?
joining it is your choice
there will be a list of the servers all large guilds/streamers join, that's nothing to worry about
especially with the server pre-selection in place
no Addons
royal pasture
Numbers in node sieges are capped though. And it seems the map is large enough to dodge anyway
reef osprey
no Addons allowed
void pendant
well that would be like shooting oneself in the foot
royal pasture
Big streamers are also targets, trying to destroy a node that a streamer has build would be tempting for many I'm pretty sure
void pendant
Yes
empty palm
Point to where the big nasty bad streamers hurt you.
reef osprey
@crystal beacon
It's pretty simple.
Dodge the large streamer servers. Wait 2 months and they + most of their simps will stop playing
empty palm
I do agree with the general theme of it. If there was a method for someone to control the entire server, that would be bad. But there are multiple methods one has to take in order to even begin to control a metro, so its unlikely
void pendant
Just don't play on the same server, simple. Your problem has been solved.
reef osprey
nah, we just don't care enough. Everybody that feels like its a problem can dodge it, everybody that doesn't care or is too stupid to see it will not
void pendant
Nah not rly, I agree with you and would not play on the same server with big streamers.
reef osprey
big streamer servers will be cancer, no question about that
why can't you do that manually?
see, no problem then. No need for a add-on
void pendant
What we have seen so far the UI is pretty minimalistic so not much to customize 😄
reef osprey
that's the plan, we can only determine how it will be once we are closer to launch.
Enough time for outcry regarding the UI in Alpha 2 though
reef osprey
agreed
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
unreal zealot
feel free to continue your discussion in #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion as this is for questions
reef osprey
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
@crystal beacon we don't have enough information on the crafting system yet.
It's also rethought right at this time by Intrepid
full badger
@crystal beacon There are 3 artisan paths to choose from - gathering, processing and crafting. You can only master one of those paths. Within each path you have multiple professions and you'll be able to master some (but not all) of the professions in that path
Right now, we don't know how many individual professions you'll be able to master within an artisan path, waiting for more information on that
I haven't heard anything like that being in Ashes
reef osprey
some do, especially when going towards legendaries
not sure if it also affects basic recipes
grizzled latch
Yeah blueprints will need to be crafted more than once
You use the blueprint and it is consumed in the process of making the item, at least thats how I think it was presented.
full badger
@grizzled latch Do you have a source for that? This is the first I've heard of any kind of system for crafting
reef osprey
@grizzled latch some can be used multiple times they said
grizzled latch
@full badger no source specially i can recall, its fairly old source. Sorry.
reef osprey
@grizzled latch yeah, they mentioned it like 2 or 3 years ago during a monthly livestream
grizzled latch
That was for the legendary/rare crafts @full badger
full badger
No official date given. Community estimates are 2-3 years away
grizzled latch
Thats the best we have so far
They wont give a release date til at least beta starting
Guilds were recruiting at the kickstarter
reef osprey
depends on the testing/development progress of A1/A2, so its hard to pin down
@crystal beacon fall 2020
the core of a lot of these guilds have been playing together for ages
sleek fulcrum
So alpha 2 is probably like June 2021 or later then
reef osprey
@crystal beacon they recruit now and throw out later, depending on whether people fit into the guild or not
@sleek fulcrum second half of 2021 is a common estimate
@crystal beacon pretty much along the lines of:
Let everybody in on the guild discord for now.
Start serious recruiting efforts mid-end alpha 2 (deciding who truely will get into the guild etc.)
sleek fulcrum
I mean, its kinda standard for guilds to try and recruit early, especially since if you are willing to back early on, you probably are dedicated enough and will pour more time into the game then someone that pays the 15$ on launch for a sub
reef osprey
nobody cares about classes right now when recruiting, as you aren't really recruiting. (at least the guilds that have persisted for a while)
Just letting people onto their discords, start connecting
sullen peak
food for thought, if u wanna start connecting with guildies, try GW2 if u want an mmo thats the most like what ashes is gunna b. my entire time lvling in that game it just made me think of ashes in almost every respect lol
grizzled latch
Discussions belong in #aoc-discussion . Getting off topic here
sullen peak
well noting will satisfy u then cause its a good ui ha
mesmer is cool
agreed
doin daredevil (thief) right now
user interface
ur skillbar and minimap etc
i think we misunderstood eachother
aaahhhh
i do like that arrow on the chatbar that lets u hide it tho (u only see recent messages for a short duration) really frees up my screen
also free dying anytime anywhere in that game (account bound unlimited use dyes) i havnt noticed any 2 characters that actually look the same, big + for me
abstract mountain
Hi, i asked this a few weeks ago but didnt really get a clear answer
sullen peak
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abstract mountain
With 64 classes is pvp balance really an achievable thing?
reef osprey
@abstract mountain classes won't be balanced around 1v1s
little kiln
it seems to be more class "combos" where you have 8 ish main classes, with 8 additional sub classes to combo.
abstract mountain
But how will that affect arenas?
full badger
There aren't really 64 classes. There are 8 classes with a bunch of augments depending on what secondary class you choose. Anyway, the question is kind of abstract and we don't have a clear answer right now
sullen peak
@brenon games with 4 classes cant even get pvp balancing right, partially because its influenced by metas ppl make, and how much ppl complain about something thats percieved as op
crystal beacon
how the in node houses will be given to the players the first time they appear, Through an auction??
little kiln
first come first serve + the housing getting nuked after a succesful seige (you keep your stuff and layout tho)
reef osprey
@crystal beacon not determined yet
either auction of first come first serve
abstract mountain
Which will be the number of players in arena 8v8 then? Otherwise you could face a hard counter and that would be too frustrating
crystal beacon
@reef osprey Thnx
full badger
@abstract mountain It is something we'll have to look at while testing
sullen peak
@abstract mountain also keep in mind u wont b sitting in a city using an lfg to proc instances of pvp arenas and dungeons
like other games do
abstract mountain
Well arenas should, since they are kind of an instanced competitive pvp
sullen peak
u dont need to do that to have an arena
just a location on the map to make ppl travel too
reef osprey
i'd prefer 8v8 arenas, or 3v3 min
sullen peak
easy enough to do
reef osprey
1v1 just doesn't fit the gam
sullen peak
but theyve already hard confirmed that ur not going to b sitting in towns using lfg to enter instances
abstract mountain
Ill move this to general discussion if anyone is interested
sullen peak
@abstract mountain pvp will b mostly open world or incentive based like city seige, or mat harvest spot monopoly, or rare dragon cave raid
abstract mountain
Kk thx
sullen peak
@abstract mountain u should search Peons video on youtube, it explains the flagging system of the open world pvp at least, its cool and seems like itl work
potent thunderBOT
abstract mountain
For character customization will there be a way to change your aspect, like in wow with hairdressers?
tulip hatch
There will be salons/barbershops to change your character appearance in game
little kiln
Will that only work for things like hair, or will there be ways to fully re-edit character creation? I'll even take a cash shop token as long as you guys dont charge 20+$ like Zenimax
crisp holly
@crystal beacon Probably not. They are going with choices have consequences so your race and main archetype will not be something you can change. You'll need to make a new toon
little kiln
multiple character's per account? 
grizzled latch
There are racial skins as an option though, and for some at least you can change the color
dim shuttle
None of the above. You can’t do major changes to your character once created
crisp holly
@little kiln Yes, we don't know that number for sure though
dim shuttle
little kiln
im okay with keeping the archtype locked then!
crisp holly
Likely between 3 and 8 but we will see what is actually decided on
little kiln
as long as to some extent things like atributes (str, dex, int, ect) and the artisan skills can be respecced
skill points too.
crisp holly
@little kiln From what we currently know, you will not be able to change those attributes as those are tied to your Primary archetype
little kiln
well, things you can put points into to better explain
crisp holly
Skill points I believe are a yes
little kiln
would not be a good thing if you accidentally gimped your character with level up point distribution and the only fix is deleting your character
crisp holly
From what the wiki currently shows, you do not get to choose what points are put into what stat. Your main archetype is what effects that so you can't mess it up
little kiln
good good
crisp holly
But we currently barely know anything and will need to wait and see what direction stats and leveling up go
little kiln
yep. Still hopeful, but worried about the monetization, considering how hard APOC was slammed on steam for it
young elk
someone pls send me screenshots of abilities from alpha 0
little kiln
for the most part yes, but even just cosmetic can have issues with agressive monetization and stupidly high prices for skins. Like ESO. or APOC reviews on steam.
onyx knoll
Hey guys, please keep this chat clear for questions ❤️ If you want to continue to discuss the shop, feel free to move it to #aoc-discussion, thank you ^^
full badger
@crystal beacon The EU publisher has absolutely no control over the game design or monetization for Ashes of Creation. They just host the servers and handle customer support, nothing more.
little kiln
yep i moved it back to general Xen 
grizzled latch
@young elk no ss from a0, visual NDA in effect for it. There is a 2hr video steven uploaded you can watch of it though
full badger
Pretty sure he was trolling @grizzled latch
young elk
@grizzled latch I know about NDA but I wouldn't mind some ss from friendly Alphas
river mountain
Can I marry someone in my own family?
nocturne tide
Wow great question!
river mountain
Thanks, gotta ask the important questions!
onyx knoll
Yes, they are two separate systems that don't really interact with each other
Think of "families" more as a tiny guild then as an actual IRL blood-related family lol
river mountain
Amazing! Can't wait 😉
fringe radish
That definitely opens up some RP oddities 🤣
river mountain
Let's just say, it'll be good for my honey and I 😉
Very excited for the game. Really looking forward to playing with both my family and others!
Can this game be run on Macbook?
orchid fossil
Did they explained the legal or economic reasons behind the choice to use a company like my.games to sell subscriptions and items for the other continents ?
fringe radish
@river mountain - https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Performance#Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse_system_requirements System requirements here, I believe it is windows only right now... Not sure if they are planning to change that.
Actually, just found an answer. At launch it will be Windows only. It may open to other OS/platforms in the future.
slow meadow
not in detail no. But they did say that my.games was the only company who would let Intrepid keep control. Though there is an update on the situation coming later this month. @orchid fossil
river mountain
I downloaded windows onto my Macbook. Also idk if this matters, but it's a macbook pro.
fringe radish
Then you'll need to check the system specs and compare using that page
river mountain
Ah thanks!
orchid fossil
@slow meadow ok, i'm just really curious to understand why they need them and can't sell stuff directly
fringe radish
If I had to guess, it's likely because licensing and business rules and taxing are all different in other countries and it's much easier/cheaper to use a third party than it is to hire a lawyer to figure it out, file all the legal things, etc etc etc
Just like it's often cheaper for a company to hire a contractor than it is to hire an employee directly
slow meadow
@orchid fossil the GDPR is a complicated beast and setting up new infrastructure in another country is a lot of work for a company that already has a lot of work to do in general. That's a lot of the original decision. But Intrepid did keep control of the cash shop and vision of the game so they mitigated some of the main risks. Will be interesting to see the update as well.
orchid fossil
yeah GDPR is not simple to handle (though i doubt mail.ru really comply to it :p)
i'd love to know exactly the kind of barrier there is to sell digital things from US to EU
i mean nothing stop me from going on a US website and buy stuff online from EU
i might pay some exchange fee but apart from that
but maybe that's not legal i don't know
unreal zealot
they have to adhere to the GDPR if they want to do business anywhere in the EU
other wise they get heavy fines etc etc
alot of american business had to adhere to it as well or just stop business in EU all together
reef osprey
setting up the pre-requirements for it would be far too bothersome for Intrepid initially
orchid fossil
with all the issue they have with mail.ru, i'm not sure implementing the GDPR requirements would have been longer :p
slow meadow
also Intrepid is building a big game, and feels AAA at times but its still a relatively small studio, so taking on that much overhead is going to have an impact.
fringe radish
Yeah, TBH even though it sounds like... What 75 developers I think they have, or close to? Even though it sounds like a lot, in reality there are MAYBE 100 people in the whole company.
That's... Barely anything. And all their money is going into the game right now, so again, paying business people and legal teams and such... Then on top of paying those people to figure this stuff out, they still have to pay all the legal bits just to be able to publish in other countries
It's a whole thing
orchid fossil
yeah and they still seem to strugle to hire on the platform side of things
fringe radish
Yeah, I think 75ish is assuming they get their new 24
orchid fossil
but it's still a very major point in their business
it's literally the moment they sell the service
so it kind of important
investing in that doesn't sound secondary
fringe radish
It is, but it's still a point in finance too. Like I said, paying contractors is a good example because even though a contracted employee is still usually paid more than a traditional employee (the employee receives less money but the employee's salary + the fees to the recruiting/contracting agency are higher than a standard employee's pay), it's still cheaper because you're cutting out all the fees of training, legally registering the employee, providing benefits, etc etc etc.
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
fringe radish
It's the same here, they may be paying some money upfront to the third party to get them set up but in the end it's way way cheaper.
Sorry! 🙇♀️
young elk
Will we have cross-server activities?
Like for all regions
reef osprey
very unlikely
onyx knoll
@young elk There were mentions of cross-server arenas/instanced pvp
reef osprey
that's not what he asked though, he asked cross region
young elk
in this question 2 meanings
onyx knoll
That would probably depend the regions, I doubt the arenas would cross from NA to EU, but if they open BR servers I could see BR/NA being on the same arena ladders. It hasn't been mention one way or the other tho, so I can't say for certain 🙂
young elk
cross-region arena pweeease
languid patio
Does anyone know if rogues have stealth?
frank reef
Besides sieges, what else is restricted by prime time?
boreal kelp
I assume buying a posiiton of power in an economic node can be costly; is there any way for the highest bidder to profit or have his investment returned somehow?
spark rain
if i buy a pre order it says i have access to alpha 2 but i cant find anything specific only fall 2020 have they released any specific date ranges? i havent been able to find any
crystal flax
Fall 2020 is for Alpha 1 anyways, we don't have any dates beyond that
spark rain
ah ok
ya if there were some sort of dates id buy it right now but ill wait till they release dates thank you for the answer
crystal beacon
Would be cool if the highest bidder in an economic node can use all the money spend of the candidates to use in the city, of course not pay out but for building vouchers of something
marsh pagoda
@young elk i do not think they can do cross region if they do price normalization, which has also been asked for
desert ivy
There definitely won't be cross-region.
plush mauve
Can I just ask if Steven and gang can do another one of these soon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwaYLOuw2s&t=0s
desert ivy
I mean in a few months you'll have plenty of those videos from people playing A1 and recording it
ruby swift
@languid patio Ashes version is not true stealth, more a predator shimmer.
primal solstice
Does It clear which class will have aoe skills? And if there is a way to grind mobs and kill them with aoe skills in affective way?
And there is exact date to alpha 1?
onyx knoll
@primal solstice A bit early to say at this point since we don't have the full list of skills
Alpha 1 will be late fall, we don't have a specific date yet
primal solstice
Okie thx for fast respond 💯
river mountain
Will there be sliders in this game 😉 . Additionally, can I make my wee wee big? Thanks in advance
onyx knoll
@river mountain They have said they want to make a character creator on par if not better then the one in BDO, take that as you will
river mountain
Wow, amazing! Can't wait! I really enjoyed black desert online. What a game!
Thank you very much
abstract lintel
They plan to release the character creator early if that amounts to anything
river mountain
How often will nodes change in levels? Like how often will a metropolis or village or something downgrade and upgrade?
Oh, thanks!
nocturne tide
I know release is ages away so we probably wont know this
But do they plan to have something where youre able to play the game with 20% downloaded like some other mmos
Also will they let us download the game but not play it before launch for us shitty internet folk
limber silo
When is the next Update stream? next friday?
onyx knoll
I don't think that's been mentioned, you can try asking in the next Q&A but as you say, it's pretty early to know i think
@limber silo It hasn't been confirmed yet but we can take an educated guess that it will probably be on the 28th
spiral pine
maybe next friday
onyx knoll
It hasn't been confirmed yet but we can take an educated guess that it will probably be on the 28th
nimble tartan
did lom and pi test already?
steady ocean
LoM is getting access to test this month I believe, PI has been able to test for some time now
oak knot
When will we get new AOC news?!?! I'm starving for content!
onyx knoll
It hasn't been confirmed yet but we can take an educated guess that it will probably be on the 28th
steady ocean
Probably near the end of the month.
Plenty of content on youtube though, especially the official AoC channel.
crisp holly
@oak knot New tweet(1-2 mins ago) saying 11am PDT Friday, August 28th for the next AoC live stream
buoyant seal
any clue when the next Q&A is?
@nocturne tide https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/ie1shq/next_live_stream_qa_submission_friday_august_28/
hollow sentinel
I understand there will be Taverns but will there be brothels? The risk reward could be a 30 min buff to stamina with a risk of STD that lowers max health until healed by a cleric.
unreal zealot
i mean i doubt it tbh but nothing stopping people RP their tavern as a brothel, they will all be welcomed to goldshire
soft magnet
unique rover
Heya! New to the party and hella hyped 😁
However, reading through the wiki has left me with a question. Can a character progress both taming and animal husbandry? They're in different "parent paths", being gathering and processing, and the wording isn't too clear (imo).
Thanks in advance!
crystal beacon
You can, but you can't master both.
unreal zealot
I hope so but i hear 2 or 3 different things about the artisan trees and how many you can master i feel like taming and animal husbandry should just be in the same tree
crystal beacon
We know that you can master several from the same Tree.
unique rover
Thats neat, thanks! Any clarity on how many tiers of progression there'll be? Like novice, adept, renown, master?
crystal beacon
We don't have any confirmation, only that you can master them.
Will you can respec your professions??
unique rover
I appreciate the replies! Looks like I'll be tryna tune into the next Q&A to ask a bit more about that 😋 tyvm
crystal beacon
I dont think we have a confirmation but...
unreal zealot
i sent a question for next Fridays Q&A related to respecing more specifically if your already a master tho and want to "downgrade" so u can master a new path
crystal beacon
"Players can dabble in all professions at a "beginners" level before they decide to master a particular pathway." Quote
unreal zealot
hopfully we get an awsner
unique rover
Yeah I saw the dabble quote too! I was hoping I could advance, if not master, both the professions.
Say there's 5 tiers with the 5th being Master, get tier 4 for the profession in the other parent path
topaz palm
Will the Voyager pre-orders still be available when alpha-2 releases?
I already bought it, friend is asking me if he should buy it now or wait till a date announcement comes up.
crystal beacon
We don't know...But they will tell us with advance.
desert ivy
Alpha 2 isn't going to be for like another year probably. Might as well just wait until he sees cosmetics that he likes
crystal beacon
Current Cosmetics are too...Fishy
subtle dune
from wiki: "In-game currency will not be able to be used to purchase subscription time. This may change in the future." have they changed their ideas on this topic yet or they haven't talked about it? Thanks ^_^
desert ivy
No they haven't changed their ideas on that. You will not be able to use in-game currency to buy sub time.
unreal zealot
@topaz palm we will be given fair notice of when they take away alpha 2 form the voyager packs i would tell you friend to wait for cosmetics that they really like the look of.
topaz palm
He just wants to play alpha-2 with me, so I'll tell him to wait.
errant chasm
make sure you recruit him @topaz palm u get 15% of the pack price when he buys it or so ive been told
crystal beacon
Will guilds be able to name their developed nodes? If so when the node becomes a metropolis will it appear on the map?
steady ocean
Nodes may have pre-set names you can choose from. Although a mayor sets that, not a guild.
crystal beacon
Is there going to be Canadian pricing for alpha/beta access? Currently its quite expensive with the exchange rate.
steady ocean
There will be price harminization, but I do not believe I have heard of a game doing that for Canada before. If that was the case, you would be locked to playing with only Canadians (which you may prefer).
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon doubt it T_T we never get price harmonization... sadness
crystal beacon
Some games do it and have us on the same servers. But its rare
steady ocean
It's an extra $4 a month though for you all @crystal beacon So you will need to decide if it is worth the cost
crystal beacon
Depending on the economy yea, it fluctuates a lot. Makes it really hard to dedicate 😦
steady ocean
Steven has already said those that pay a reduced price will play in locked servers, but that could always change by launch.
crystal beacon
Also canada would have to have its own east and west servers probably cause of the size of the country with a small population. Probably wont happen, either we have to pay extra for exchange rate or we have empty servers if they go that route :/
oak depot
Question - very nuanced - if you are Corrupted - does killing another Corrupted player reduce your Corruption?
I know on the chart it is listed as "no change"
but.. gaining experience works off some corruption.... therefore my questions I guess really is... does killing a corrupted player give XP?
I believe the answer is "no".. XP only comes from NPC and quests... but want to see if anyone disagress
crisp holly
I'd guess/think yes but idk if normal PvP gives xp.
onyx knoll
The answer is indeed no as far as I'm aware
I'm fairly certain they specified that you needed to kill monsters to work off your corruption (Or die)
but let me try and double check
wispy carbon
Anyone know how to recover your account if no email is being sent when trying to recover password?
oak depot
This makes it seem like PvP gives XP: ```Experience (XP) is gained through a variety of activities:[3]
PvP.
PvE.
Exploration.
Gathering/Processing/Crafting.
Events/Quests.```
crisp holly
Hmm the wiki only says gaining experience will reduce a player's corruption score so I guess it matters if killing players gives any kind of xp. And if that changes depending on if you are combatant(purple) or Corrupt(red)
onyx knoll
Ohh, where was that? I was trying to find it but I hadn't yet
oak depot
onyx knoll
ty ty
Mhh, so it's possible, but listening to Steven's quote on that (which is from 2017 so that might have changed), it sounds to me like he might be talking about getting xp through pvp from events like the caravans and sieges (which corrupted cannot participate in), not necessarily from kills themselves. I think it's a pretty good question, you should try asking it in the next Q&A!
oak depot
already submitted my one question
onyx knoll
Aww, mhh, well, leme ask if @simple ether knows, and if he doesn't know for sure I'll go and ask it myself!
oak depot
he streaming currently, will ask on his stream
onyx knoll
Jahlon the question is basically: Do you know if killing a player in world pvp gives any xp and could that xp be used to work off corruption
ohh, good call
strange rock
@onyx knoll I don't see anything on the wiki in regards to PvP granting XP, but I do see that gaining XP in general will slowly remove corruption.
onyx knoll
Yep, I'm aware of that point, Nostra did link a page that has a mention of pvp giving xp tho 🙂
strange rock
Ah, I should have scrolled up just a bit. lol
oak depot
Jahlon seemed to think that you don't get XP from PvP outside of PvP events.
obviously it's not a 100% guarantee but good enough I believe
onyx knoll
I tend to agree, but it's probably worth asking for a confirmation ^^
fluid remnant
How will be the support for south americ in AoC?
jovial obsidian
How will be the support for south americ in AoC?
@fluid remnant This.
ruby swift
@fluid remnant https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions
small pecan
^ “South America is under consideration due to traffic from that region.[8]”
Aka if there’s enough interest, South American servers will be available!
orchid fossil
desert ivy
At the moment though there isn't any known plans for there to be a SA server at launch
jovial obsidian
It says there will not be IP block. So prolly we will be able to play from SA in NA servers or something.
desert ivy
Yes you will be able to
jovial obsidian
Hurray !
fluid remnant
"Certain regions will have "harmonized" subscription prices that better reflect their local economies. These regions will be segregated from other regions.[10] There will not be region locking or IP blocking for European and Russian regions.[11][12][13]"
That was my main concern actually
Brazillian currency is fucked up. We might need a 'steam system' to make sense getting into the game
Right know imagine you paying USD 2.000,00 to play alpha test
Just wont happen unfortunately
raven fox
Great move from Intrepid Studios
I think my.com is not the best publish to this game in EU
fluid remnant
Thanks
@fluid remnant https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions
@ruby swift thanks btw
unreal zealot
the sub price for brazil, steven has mentioned but i dont think confirmed will likely be harmonized but nothing else since the game is free to download sub to play
fluid remnant
I see
unreal zealot
the cosmetic shop might but once again we have hardly any info on it
raven fox
the sub price for brazil, steven has mentioned but i dont think confirmed will likely be harmonized but nothing else since the game is free to download sub to play
@unreal zealot Argentina Here, we need to know if we can get a server on LAS first 😦
jovial obsidian
I think now that they parted ways. There will be more freedom in IP and server selection. I think the IP blocking thing was some kind of agreement they had with em, or something like that.
unreal zealot
wow is buy to own and sub to play
aoc will be sub to play and cosmetic cash shop only
fluid remnant
Hmm didnt noticed that difference
ruby swift
There is no confirmation of server location for any region at this time. Future regions could be BR or in Spanish speaking countries. There is also no confirmation on harmonization, but those that participate in it when offered will have restrictions.
jovial obsidian
Yeah. I think the sub will be standard global. I dont think the price will chage by region.
fluid remnant
Well, hope to see some SA servers and hope to be able to buy beta tests if i like those alphas
cerulean atlas
dlc is also set to be free too so far @fluid remnant
young elk
The question is...If I`ll buy Voyager Pre-Order Package(250$ package) will i be able to buy a costumes from future packages or it is only available in packages for 375$
unreal zealot
hopfully during the live stream we will get more info on the intrepid eu service hopefully it means we can switch between na and eu without seperate accounts
crystal beacon
@plucky pawn will the pack prices be the same for eu now?
reef osprey
@young elk you need the 375 before
ruby swift
@young elk This visual may help
young elk
fucc
plucky pawn
@young elk You're able to buy the individual cosmetic items of the same tier/category as your existing package - and yup, that pic above is a helpful visual aid!
fluid remnant
150 gives you both beta tests right?
reef osprey
@plucky pawn cheers. You made the weekend of my entire guild 
desert ivy
@fluid remnant Yes
jovial obsidian
Oh, you get the Cinderella carriage.
desert ivy
You don't get those cosmetics anymore. Those were from last year
jovial obsidian
It's past midnight, sad.
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon At the moment everyone will be seeing the same shop, with the USD prices reflected
drowsy cloud
Is the stag the same shade of white?
crystal beacon
Meaning we have to pay VAT?
drowsy cloud
That's a nice looking mount if so
ruby swift
@desert ivy Depending on when they bought their account they will indeed be eligible to purchase past cosmetics on a case by case basis. In the FAQ.
desert ivy
Yeah if they had a my.games account with the correct tier during the time those cosmetics were sold
but generally you can't buy them anymore
ruby swift
@crystal beacon You never get away from paying the taxman. Intrepid has no control over VAT that your country charges.
reef osprey
@crystal beacon you always have to pay your countries VAT
crystal beacon
If we buy intrepid packages we buy 70 euro more for second highest pack
desert ivy
When did the my.games shop start going fuckywucky?
hidden crane
@desert ivy Since it was made
ruby swift
@desert ivy Sorry if you were replying to a different situation, might have missed it in the scrollby.
reef osprey
@crystal beacon because us show prices excluding tax
crystal beacon
No wrath
ruby swift
@desert ivy Would have to check but it has been something like 9 months I want to say.
crystal beacon
I mean the eu package
reef osprey
yes
crystal beacon
I would pay 50 euro actually, more if i bought the same pack
From mycom vs intrepid
I pay vat 2 times
If i buy on intrepid
reef osprey
nah you dont
hexed minnow
Nice website.....one issue. If you go to the store or forums there is no way to navigate back to the main site
crystal beacon
Yes i do
ruby swift
EU people wanted out from under My.Games. They got their wish. They may have to pay more for that privilege now.
reef osprey
EU pack applied vat afterwards as well
crystal beacon
Is there an official statement for this? Because by eu law all prices online have to be vat included
orchid fossil
then they'll comply to the law, just let them time
hidden crane
@crystal beacon Yes there is an official statement- Please be patient while they move away from Xsolla (No ETA currently)
Alternatively, paying VAT is law in EU, so just pay the VAT
¯_(ツ)_/¯
still quartz
Was wondering also blubub 🙂 seen comming weeks
ruby swift
If you were purchasing from a store located in the EU, then those laws would apply. SInce your only option now is to purchase from Intrepid NA. No.
crystal beacon
Can someone show me a pic of eu package purchase price?
Because i have never heard of extra vat
hidden crane
Alternatively, simply be patient. With them opening an EU office, things might change.
ruby swift
Wouldn't matter, those prices are a non factor as of half an hour ago.
hidden crane
^
primal stag
If I buy the pre-order pack now, do I have the option to buy cosmetics from previous packs or only the ones that come after the one I buy?
hidden crane
Well I'm sorry if you felt someone gave you false information, but I'd recommend waiting as Intrepid sorts things out.
crystal beacon
Saying prices in eu are not vat included is as far as i know false information
ruby swift
Read the channel descriptions. Anyone not a gold or red name has no authority here beyond what you give them. Don't like the answer, don't accept it. Won't change reality in any case.
hidden crane
@primal stag If you've never bought a pack before, you probably would not qualify for eligibility to purchase past packs, so put in a support ticket as mentioned in the FAQ
slow meadow
@primal stag from this point forward. its not retro active. it also only applies to cosmetics of the level you purchased, so if you got a smaller pack you would have access to those same type of cosmetics going forward.
ruby swift
Please, check the #faq channel first. If your question is not answered, you may ask it here. This is not an official Customer Service support location. If you need assistance with your account, please place a Customer Service Ticket here: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.
This channel is for the community to help one another answer questions and resolve issues outside of Customer Service.
hidden crane
@primal stag
eternal venture
Is there an career related email where I could ask job related question? Can't find any and do not want to go via 'apply' under the careers.
orchid fossil
jobs@intrepidstudios.com @eternal venture
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon we spun up a new knowledge base article for you here that includes answers to some of your questions on that front: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560534-Purchase-FAQ
crystal beacon
Thanks! Will there be a new shop for eu only? Or will we have to stick with na shop?
still quartz
Golden
reef osprey
@crystal beacon my.games has their headquarters in russia. they don't need to declare their prices with vat
crystal beacon
@reef osprey if you can show me a picture of an eu price i believe you, else not
Mycom always had included vat
tight gale
Please give us time as we make transitions. We'll have further details about purchasing and shops coming down the line. 
reef osprey
@crystal beacon i dont care if you believe me or not
my.com had, as its headquarters was in EU / Amsterdam.
My.games with the reformation of the company moved their headquarters to russia
tight gale
Also, please move discussions to the appropriate channels and keep this available for questions only.
unreal zealot
@tight gale @plucky pawn we trust you theres no rush ❤️
lost sentinel
@tight gale The referral program states that you will receive 15% of your referral's purchases as Interpid bucks, and then says that in some countries you can redeem this for vague "cash rewards". What exactly are those rewards, and are there any limits on those rewards? Many people have interpreted this as 1:1 conversion from Intrepid bucks to USD, but I cannot find a source for this assumption.
desert ivy
Cash rewards just means you can exchange it for real money
tight gale
Hey @lost sentinel ! Information can be found here on the Referral Program and what Intrepid Bucks can be used for: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036147094-What-is-the-referral-program-
lost sentinel
@tight gale Thanks for the link, but it doesn't answer my question. This still says "and obtain cash rewards on a quarterly basis after Ashes of Creation has launched." I'm looking for specifics on this program; i.e. I'm looking for a confirmation that this is what people assume it to be, a 1:1 conversion to USD with no limit.
As opposed to something like "convert $1k Intrepid bucks to 100 USD, limit 1 per quarter" or something similar.
tight gale
I'll have to get back to you on that as I don't want to give you an incorrect answer.
abstract mountain
@tight gale Hi, may i ask what are the requisites for a language to be introduced in the game? As part of the spanish community there are people worried about the game never really getting translated, is there any way we can actually do something to make it happen?
desert ivy
Get more people interested and invested in Ashes
young elk
you can learn English
tight gale
@abstract mountain we plan to support more languages as our team expands. We'll always let folks know as we do so.
@young elk please be respectful.
young elk
sry ❤️
oak depot
How much to buy Intrepid Studios?
abstract mountain
Like... 100M probably?
crystal flax
More than you have
oak depot
Maybe / Maybe Not... knee jerk response
steady jasper
When succubus costume for my sexy elf ??
sweet hawk
@idle siren 😇 Sorry for the ping, but really interested in whether there's a possibility that an "offspec" such as Fighter-Tank (Fighter primary class) would end up outperforming Tank-Tank when it comes to tanking, due to pumping out more threat while still staying healthy enough to tank everything, or will you be balancing the game out in the way that the Tank primary class will always be the go-to pick for tanking?
I'm asking this, because in the event that Fighter-Tank or any other "non-Tank primary class" would be the best for tanking, competitive players would essentially be forced to reroll a new character just to stay on top of the game, despite picking THE tank class.
desert ivy
No. Off-specs will never beat a primary tank. Especially not tank-tank
steady jasper
please dont burry my question. it vs VERY important.
unreal zealot
i mean just my opinion but if your a game dev and making a tank class and allow people to combine it with another tanks class i would imagine it would have the best threat generation either way, in wow paladins had a passive ability for tanking to help generate more threat.
so i can imagine someting similar for a tank/tank or tank/cleric
abstract mountain
Maybe via taunt mechanichs etc..
crystal beacon
Since secondary archetypes only modify existing skills the base threat generation in tank/tank will simply be higher than tank/x
abstract mountain
@tight gale sorry for tagging again, is there any info on what brackets will there be for pvp arenas? Like 3v3, 5v5 or 8v8?
ruby swift
@abstract mountain Yes, they have given that information. It is on the wiki.
young elk
@abstract mountain 1v1
abstract mountain
Oh really? Sorry then 🙏🏼 couldnt find it
ruby swift
sec
plucky pawn
@abstract mountain you can check out where we've chatted about it before here! https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas
ruby swift
abstract mountain
Thx thx thx 😁
lost sentinel
Hmm, how will a 1v1 arena function if the classes are not balanced for 1v1? Just mirror matches?
spark lark
FFA sounds amazing omg
ruby swift
The statements as to brackets are early 2017. Development is fluid and the info may change. That is all really that can be said about balancing for the moment.
languid patio
@ruby swift care to explain how it works?
boreal abyss
@lost sentinel bad luck, good luck
will function as a normal arena, you will just sometimes have a chance to meet perfect counters 🤷♂️
spark lark
@lost sentinel Well considering that there is tons of individual customization depending on your classes, religion, guild, whether you're in the scholars/mages/thieves guild, and then putting skill points into weapons or skills or augments, I feel like it won't be tat black and white of one class beating another
lost sentinel
Well, my observation is more based on the fact that 1v1 arena feels a tad pointless when a large fraction of match-ups are decided before the fight starts. Seems like a waste of time to me.
spark lark
Well some people might enjoy the challenge I suppose
boreal abyss
then dont go 1v1 🤷♂️
Not pointless for everyone you know
ruby swift
Anything related to class balance and how things will work right now is pure speculation. Discussion of wants and suggestions is best achieved on the forums. Please keep this channel open for questions rather than discussion. With the My.Games announcement it is sure to be a busy day.
lost sentinel
Don't get me wrong, I'm primarily a 1v1 and 1vX player so if the arena is there I will use it. Just seems like an odd inclusion considering, by all accounts, they are trying to make 1v1 matchups have hard counters.
boreal abyss
Some people like trying to beat even their counters
lost sentinel
Of course, but that doesn't mean a supported mode with a leaderboard is a good idea. Statistically the top spots will go to the people who happened to have the build that countered the most number of people; i.e. good strategic skill but not really an indicator of mechanical skill, and I would expect the latter to be more important in a 1v1 ranking scheme. But as Unknown said it is kind of pointless to speculate.
reef osprey
how does your character build correlate to node leadership?
ruby swift
@undone prairie Through the main Intrepid site now.
@reef osprey No information that it has any impact so far.
abstract mountain
If in understanded correctly as a guild leader you could spend guild points in making your guild bigger in size ( more members ) or increasing your guildmates power is that correct?
Think i heard that in the live interview Steven did with Asmon
abstract mountain
But if that affects gameplay wont it be too much of a difference for instanced pvp or raid performance?
reef osprey
raids are mostly open worlds so is most pvp
would only affect arena, which might be normalized in the first place
ruby swift
80/20 open vs instanced are the numbers thrown around so far.
abstract mountain
But the thing is even if they are open world the max group member will be 40 so the performance issue will remain there? Kind of worried about it, want my guild to be great and create a community but at the same time not have performance issues.. guess you cant have it all in a true mmo
ruby swift
Wait and see.
reef osprey
also, they have numbers advantage in the open world.
Gotta suffer a little if you want that zerg
abstract mountain
True, as always thx for the replies 😊
eternal venture
@orchid fossil thank you!
jobs@intrepidstudios.com @eternal venture
@orchid fossil
hexed minnow
youtube of the twitch yet?
crystal flax
If you mean the stream announced earlier, that isn't until next week
hexed minnow
LOL..ooops
cyan coral
Anyone knows how to delete my.games account ?
i create the account only for ashes ,but i never bought nothing.
i was doing that ,but in step 3 says select question and i dont know what to do
dont show nothing
@simple ether theres some fields that i dont know what to put .i never bought anything so what i put in payment methods ?the same for phone number
np m8 ty .no i can´t but i will try to put i dint buy nothing to see if works
can u tell me what is this Internet Service Providers ?
is the company i pay my internet?
blazing sequoia
İs there any estimated time for this game to come out ?
versed hollow
@blazing sequoia most accurate answer right now is "when it's done"
desert ivy
Within the next 10 years is probably a good guess
limber onyx
Question about the shop. After you buy a Voyager pack you can individually buy future cosmetics in the store. do you still have to buy them in the time period they were released or will they stay there indefinitely?
desert ivy
Have to buy them in that time period
limber onyx
thank you!
reef dagger
@simple ether could they be using that as a potential reference to ensure your the account holder?
late rose
Hi. If Mygames is not publisher and i buy the game on their launcher so that mean i lost my account and preorder (~250eur) ?
desert ivy
Read the FAQ
versed hollow
@late rose nope, your account needs to be migrated across, but you will keep everything you paid for
late rose
uff thanks
versed hollow
unknown at this point, hopefully we will hear something during the livestream next week
delicate bone
is there going to be the early access packs available later next year too? Seeing as the beta will still be going on then or may not have /started. or is there going to be an end date/last early access pack in the Intrepid shop?
asking cause i would obviously love to join, but next year's schedule due to virus.... is fuzzy and confusing to say the least
woven moon
I'm really interested in the shipbuilding artisanship- will I be able to add a custom flare to my ships to signify that I built it?
oak barn
Xsolla?
Until Intrepid is established in Europe you'll still be using Xsolla
@simple ether
I just dont want to miss out on this months pack
desert ivy
This months pack will be gone by the time the payment system is changed
oak barn
Yeah thats the shittiest part tbh... and it looks really cool
desert ivy
There will be other great packs.
oak barn
And I sure dont feel like paying 250 for the pack + 100 jsut bcs of US Taxes+ conversion rates
I really hope so
crystal beacon
is there someone that bought the eu pack to show how much it cost at the bill?
can send me in pm too, thx
viral maple
Will there be an Asia server
crystal beacon
Yes
desert ivy
To clarify, SEA is not guaranteed to get the server. They still haven't decided if there will be both a SEA and OCE server, or just one server in either SEA or OCE. If it's in SEA, it will be in Singapore. If it's in OCE, it will be in Melbourne or Sydney.
maiden cliff
Where can we make noise to get a Brazilian/South American server? xD
desert ivy
By getting other SA people to make accounts on Intrepids website and support it
maiden cliff
support it you mean buy the cosmetics and stuff there?
crystal beacon
Post in the forums.
jovial dirge
Anyone have a 2018 Extra life VoD link that they might share? "Looking for lore in all the wrong places..."
crystal flax
Unfortunately I think that one's too far back for the VODs to have been saved, I tried finding it for you but only got the 2019 one :c there's videos by people like Jahlon covering what happened during it though
little kiln
There is no way to get alpha 1 access again, right? 
jovial dirge
@simple ether TY
fringe radish
@little kiln Not right now, but in the future they may open up a way to purchase it again. Nothing for sure though.
little kiln
will certainly keep an eye out for it
elder yacht
Is there any confirmation that a Beastmaster will actually be able to use different types of animals and get benefits for it, or will different Beastmasters (assuming they spec the same way) have the same summons just with different cosmetics, regardless of one's using a spider and the other a wolf?
viral maple
Can we give suggestions
ruby swift
Suggestions are best on forums.
Here they get lost in the scrollby. That is a more static medium.
Jahlon is pro, knows just where to stick it.
ashen vault
When I look at the inventory I own in the shop and it says Beta 2 in two different places because of multiple package upgrades, does that mean I will have one extra beta key I can give to a friend?
open granite
hello, this question has been probably asked already but i couldn't find it. so as glad as i am about interpid being selfpublisher in eu, i'm wondering if people who already bought preorders through my.com (silly me) will have their accounts transfered / merged or it's just gone?
will do. thanks
ashen vault
My highest level of pack is Kickstarter Braver of Worlds.
viral maple
Like I am wondering whether we can try out the different classes before choosing the primary because its permanent and maybe the person dont like it when he or she finds out
ruby swift
Leader of Men was minimum tier for extra keys
viral maple
Ah
ashen vault
Okay, thanks!
viral maple
Thanks
Can we start playing Aoc alr? Sorry if this question is stupid cuz I'm a bit confused
placid vessel
onyx knoll
@viral maple You can currently buy a pack that includes alpha 2 at the earliest, for which we have no date. Alpha 1 will be starting later this fall
viral maple
Ok thanks
crisp holly
If I am a citizen of node X, which is a vassal of node Y, can I do the quest/task to get a siege scroll to use it on node Y?
According to the wiki, I'd be automatically added to the defensive side of node Y but due to getting a siege scroll being personal(unlike a node war). I was thinking that I could do this anyway and choose not participate in defending the place I want destroyed
Alrighty, thanks Jahlon
merry frigate
what does that news mean for NA players? will we not have a dedicated server?
slow meadow
it doesn't effect NA players.
polar hollow
Yes
@crystal beacon hoping for Sea
severe apex
Is there a cutoff date for summer 2017 backers to upgrade?
severe apex
I'm confused if that is a yes or no
grim breach
No dates yet. They will announce it once they do.
severe apex
Ok I may have to just send in a ticket about my account because I don't see the upgrade option in the store
grim breach
You should.
crystal beacon
Can I dance on top of a world boss
severe apex
Ty @simple ether yea I think it's just an issue that occurred with my account migration.
Early 2019 I think. It's my first time getting back into everything in a while due to all the great vids you guys have been putting out
Not the first time, but I haven't really done much. My email got compromised, so I came back to update all my stuff and add 2fa. My package is in my inventory but like my forum badge doesn't show on my post nor al a carte options in the store appear for me.
Cool figured as much, thanks again
little kiln
nyet
they scale with the node
but there is still content for level ones, in the highest level node
novel ice
There will be a limit to the highest level nodes. Idk how many forgot
delicate bone
I think that that wont even last 6 months though. the hardcore and highest level players will likely destroy the main node in order to level up another node for more content or new dungeons/gear/resources etc
little kiln
this will be "Sumerian city state simulator" innit? 😄
delicate bone
yeah exactly, it should be amazing
im kinda hoping someone or some guild makes an archieve of the servers theyre on
novel ice
@delicate bone That depends on how max level nodes impact characters with resources functions etc.. Also the content could be perfect for the people in that node as well as religious benifits, people wanting to keep their homes/resources/mayor titles etcc. It'll be much more complex
delicate bone
true, but organised guilds will very quickly max out what they need from nodes etc. i did say 6 months remember. i dont think it will be less than 1 month
they are also likely the strongest and so have thw power to take down the node in order to level new one for more content, etc, repeating
novel ice
Again. Those same guilds will have to build up to it. Its not that simple. Either way they'll need thousands of resources to do so, which is beyond any one guilds ability most likely
delicate bone
i guess it depends how much each node can offer content wise
there looks to be lots of nodes after all, and making them max lvl will take a month or so if i remember right
novel ice
The amount of time doesnt impact the mechanics that AoC has.
delicate bone
anyway this is #questions time to move.
strange finch
wait I was away for a bit and Ashes have dumped my.games for EU meanwhile?
that's not "good", that's the very best news
well technically third party publishers can be good, but that's not the case with my.games
hollow dust
Does that mean that EU players can now buy on intrepid or we have to wait for EU intrepid website / EU option on their website ? (i kinda want a buy&forget option, not a buy and deal with a migration one)
warped oriole
i dont want no third part ruining this game that ive dumped 100% of my faith in
hollow dust
The link says they will be a EU office, not that we can buy right now for a EU account
little kiln
One reason i love steam, is i can use it to track my addiction time count in a particular game.
With this game not going to steam, will we be able to have a total time played counter someplace?
strange finch
you can just add it to steam as a non-steam game
little kiln
wut?
strange finch
which will even allow you to use Steam Controller!
little kiln
for ARK? isnt that Z?
Any chance of a smoking emote or item in game such as a pipe or similar?
small pecan
A chance, maybe! But I don’t think we’ve seen anything like that yet
warped oriole
Probably not I'm sure there are some laws against that or something.
cedar furnace
I am concerned about house prices. Are they going to be expensive? If not? Why not? Because in my opinion they should be expensive. And would it be possible to set or change the price of your house when selling it so the others could come and buy that house from you?
hallow pond
im wondering if its going to be like archeage with a tax system to remove inactive players and freeing space for other. (?)
small pecan
So, non-instanced housing in a node is going to be a set price to buy in. Then you can sell houses later on (I believe at your own price). So it’s likely that first time buying a house won’t be too expensive, but selling a house that’s in the center of a large node will be very expensive
I know Intrepid wants the idea of getting into a node early and buying a house to be very rewarding as a node grows, so that seems like their philosophy on in-node housing
wind lagoon
Sorry to change topics, but I upgraded my kickstarter backing up to braver of worlds last month, does anyone know if that grants me alpha one access or if all those slots were effectively filled?
crystal flax
It should
wind lagoon
I hope so 😂 I’m broke AF after that
main raptor
It does but you uave to submit a ticket I think
sharp harbor
Have we heard if there will be puzzles such as mazes, hidden areas or how gw2 did it with the jumping puzzles?
reef osprey
@sharp harbor we don't have any confirmation regarding real puzzles. Community is also split on that topic.
Jumping puzzles were mentioned by Steven.
main raptor
Hopefully it does
golden coral
What do you think they will show on Friday stream?
sharp harbor
i loved jumping puzzles so much , it felt really good to complete and get an achievement/chest
@golden coral just more updates and gameplay showing probably
maybe a actual boss fight , who knows
glad sleet
Anyone play Archeage Unchained is it any good?, heard some slightly bad things about needing multiple accounts but other than that how p2w is it?
@modest comet doesn’t matter of the fact that no P2w since everyone buys gold
And gamigo doesn’t do shit about it unless you literally buy millions
sly monolith
anyone link me eu site pls
little kiln
will we be able to buy previous cosmetics no longer available, like this one?
https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-02-05-silver-sheens-and-gleaming-dreams
astral wave
no
little kiln
viral maple
What's the difference between aoc and aoc apocalypse
little kiln
one is a test client to test out the combat of AOC.
tranquil willow
Apocalypse was the battle royal made to test combat ye
sly monolith
ye.. i think its was ment to test the free aim of the mmorpg
lean marlin
AOC is the mmorpg currently about to head into alpha 1. AOC Apocalypse (or apoc as a lot of people in here know it as), was a battle royale that developed at one point to help Intrepid figure out if there was an issue (and where it was if so) with system, coding, etc. It was also used to help test the action combat side of things to an extent. >.> kind of miss it. @viral maple
wintry moat
how many metros is per server ?
crystal beacon
5
wintry moat
as well as 5 castles?
steady ocean
correct
crystal beacon
Can you respec your professions in case you want to master other one??
loud marsh
Im sure theres going to be some way to do it, but it will be much more expensive/difficult the more you do it
just like in wow i think
I could be wrong tho
crystal beacon
@loud marsh Thnx
little kiln
for metro being the largest and most grand settlement, yes.
full badger
@modest comet The Zone of Influence for a Metropolis covers 1/5th of the entire world, so yes, only 5 metros can be in place at a time
crystal beacon
i'm pretty sure there's going to be 5 because of adjacent nodes blocking progress
grizzled oasis
for it to be both a minimum and maximum of 5 - you'll have one metro per region instead of blocking progress
so he's right - the zone of influence is set per metro - not a radius
full badger
@modest comet As a node levels up, its zone of influence increases in size
grizzled oasis
He's saying it's impossible for it to be a radial area - which is true if its a minimum & maximum of 5
full badger
@grizzled oasis There doesn't necessarily need to be a minimum of 5 metros on a server.
little kiln
wait, watching one of the older streams and there is full nudity in game? 😄
steady ocean
No
full badger
That was a graphical bug
grizzled oasis
@full badger area of influence would have to be massive for 6 not to be possible, right? but then you could end up with only 2-3 metros in some configurations
full badger
@grizzled oasis As I said above, the zone of influence of a metropolis covers 1/5th of the world map, which is very large indeed
grizzled oasis
It'd have to be a predetermined region based on the relative position on the node though
otherwise you could end up with 6 by having 2 metros on opposite coasts, right?
full badger
That wouldn't be possible
Look, I don't have all the answers as to how the world is constructed and how the zones of influence and nodes are laid out. All I know is that the devs have said there can only be a maximum of 5 metropolis on a server
That's all the information we have right now
crystal beacon
pre-determined
full badger
node types and locations are all pre-determined
lime kayak
Again, influence isn't a sphere
grizzled oasis
@lime kayak So do you think the maximum influence range of each node is predetermined or will it look like spaghetti by the time all metros are built.
steady ocean
May be a better topic for #aoc-discussion
lime kayak
For all we know, it could
crystal beacon
i think it'll be based on which nodes are claimed as vassals
reef osprey
@grizzled oasis there is an algorithm called the world master, that is supposed to determine how an zoi expands based on different variables
the examples they brought are: distance to the node and nearest coast, but there are probably a few others
lean prawn
About Freehold grace period.
As mentioned on ashes101 If Freehold s not destroyed during vulnerability window after successful siege there is 7 days of grace period after which the freehold is either preserved if node is Stage 3 or destroyed if it is not.
Q: During the grace period, are we able to use Freehold buildings and transfer goods as usual, or are there some limitations?
full badger
As far as we've been told, the only limitations on moving goods around are when a siege is declared @lean prawn
little kiln
so after the seige, lost or won you have access to whatever mats are left
full badger
Correct
unreal zealot
do we know if during alpha 2 and beyond as they add the second archtype will we be allowed to switch it as much as we want to test?
full badger
@unreal zealot We've heard nothing about that kind of thing yet, sorry
That would be a good question to ask for the next Q&A
little kiln
well, ive been told here that the 2ndary archtype may be switched around (maybe cost in game currency?) but the thing is you can have multiple characters, and nothing from alpha will transfer over to the release
so create/delete your alts to your hearts content without worry!
full badger
@little kiln What he means is will they give access to quickly changing secondaries and augments for testing purposes that won't be available in the finished game. WoW does this a lot with their alpha and beta testing phases
little kiln
aah
unreal zealot
i get that but for a testing environment its alot easier to have one character of each arctype and be allowed to swap the second freely for testing purposes,
slow sky
@unreal zealot it is intended Alpha 2 will be the first instance of secondary archetype testing but this is always subject to change and is not a guarantee
full badger
We don't have a lot of details yet
But what we do know is that the augments get applied to your base class abilities and change certain properties of those abilities
reef osprey
@modest comet we don't know,
i hope they are massive enough to give each class a distinct class identity
but i'd honestly expect it to end up as 8 classes, with 8 different flavors
no distinct gameplay/pacing etc.
grizzled oasis
@reef osprey Thats how it will be
Secondary classes dont add skills, they just augment your current ones
reef osprey
@grizzled oasis we know that
little kiln
well, the intent seems to be for 2ndaries to either power up your main role, or to branch out of it slightly (dps, tank, support)
grizzled oasis
yeah, I just mean theres not really any other direction for it to go
reef osprey
doesn't mean they can't add meaningful changes instead of adding a couple of different effects
yeah there is
its just unrealistic to happen
grizzled oasis
I mean like... the most its going to do is change the way you use the skill, not redefine the class. bad wording but you know what I mean I think
full badger
Right now we're getting into pure speculation. I suggest moving to #aoc-discussion for now
grizzled oasis
Questions always turns into discussion ._.
lavish lichen
Hi! Have you planned to implement spanish channels on discord?? I guess we don't have that much community but would be nice to see it 😄 thanks!!
full badger
People have asked for it, but right now Intrepid don't want to add anymore channels to the discord.
At this time anyway
lavish lichen
Thanks for the answer 😄
tulip hatch
Language channels are only added for confirmed supported languages
We then need spanish mods to regulate the channels
It may happen in the future but there are steps to take before hand
lavish lichen
Great thank you 😉
blazing sequoia
So i was wondering there will be diffrent prices for diffrent countrys but they will be in their own servers regarding this lets say im from turkey will there be turkey servers or it will be in eu servers ?
ruby swift
@blazing sequoia They have explained harmonization like this. If you are in a region that gets a discounted price, and you use the discounted price, you will be locked to those local servers. If you pay the regular $15 sub fee you can play on any server.
We don't have final server locations yet. But Turkey would most likely fall under the EU servers.
crystal beacon
In what ballpark will the daily playtime for ashes be?
To compete with the top 10% for example
full badger
@crystal beacon That is a very abstract question that will be impossible to answer perhaps until launch
empty palm
Treat the game as a part time job more than likely.
crystal beacon
I thought maybe steven mentioned something
empty palm
Full time job if you want to be higher than 10%.
empty palm
It's probably too early to give a proper estimate on knowing how much effort equates to reward as of now.
sullen sentinel
@crystal beacon he said 4 hours for 45 days to get to max level.
young elk
sullen sentinel
3-4*
ruby swift
4-6
crystal beacon
I guess getting high end gear will take the same amount then?
ruby swift
Get dem quotes right
sullen sentinel
Either way it is a substantial amount of time.
crystal beacon
Anyway i can play 4-6 hours only
empty palm
@ruby swift Would you describe the game's progression as being linear or non-linear? Aside from levelling up.
ruby swift
Non
blazing sequoia
@ruby swift So i have to pay the eu server price if there is no turkey servers ?
or it will be like i pay the price special for turkey but it will be counted as eu servers
ruby swift
@ruby swift So i have to pay the eu server price if there is no turkey servers ?
@blazing sequoia You would need to pay the harmonization price for the server closest to you. The details are still to be released. They just confirmed that they might go that route. Not guaranteed yet. And probably not for all regions. Doubt you are going to see 50 different price plans for 50 countries.
crystal beacon
I think eu will have the same price
The special prices are more likely in different countries
ruby swift
The office yes. Has nothing to do with where they place the actual AWS servers.
blazing sequoia
rip me than 1 euro is 8.65 turkish lira 😦
stone flame
Will we be able to gift sub, to others? 😮
ruby swift
Until they release a specific plan with how and where harmonization will occur, no reason to panic.
blazing sequoia
ow k ty for answering my questions
ruby swift
@stone flame Nope, they are pretty strong on the no gifting part. If you want to gift something like a sub, send them the money or gift card yourself.
Stops RMT
stone flame
Ah makes sense. Thank you!
split crest
and when they will activate the preorder in EU?
ruby swift
They announced the changes literally hours ago. It will take some time before an actual EU store is up and running. Wait for news is all that can be said.
You can of course order through Intrepid NA right now.
But some want to wait to see if they are somehow going to get a better deal through EU store facing.
near horizon
Will there be seperate EU store?
prices are converted anyways when you buy stuff so I don't know why we would have a seperate store
ruby swift
They have not said either way, then again I was off most of the last 12 hours. So maybe? Anyone else got a quote confirming EU storefront?
full badger
Nothing stated yet
solid smelt
Made my intrepid account now - just waiting for EU store opening ^^
vernal moss
How many roles will@there be within a guild, leader, member...etc?
steady ocean
I do not believe the devs have given all the specifics @vernal moss Only that there will be various roles.
vernal moss
Okay thank you, I hope to see more talked about guilds so that I can begin setting one up for the start
steady ocean
You can always post your question on the official forum Q&A thread, and it may be read and answered on the upcoming livestream if chosen.
vernal moss
Ahhh I see will do thank you
honest solstice
is there a way to find out if that name you want to reserve is alreayd taken ?
tranquil willow
It will probably say that the name is taken once you try to select it
so you have to try and see if you get lucky
honest solstice
so no method of findiong out befgore m9oney
spiral pine
you cant reserve a name yet
desert ivy
Even with the $10000 kickstarter pack you can't reserve a name yet
hybrid prism
Nobody has reserved yet. When reservations do open up, they will go down the tier list and from oldest to newest in each tier
woven moon
Dibs on Turd Ferguson! Called it
tropic dragon
Hey there, I recently learned about AoC, so I’m late to the game and I missed out on all the previous skins/mounts/etc, will there be a chance to buy them at a later time?
tropic dragon
Ok thanks
onyx knoll
I don't think that was mentioned in either yes or no
You can try asking in the next Q&A 🙂
onyx knoll
On the 28th, you can submit your question here: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/46119/next-live-stream-q-a-submission-friday-august-28-2020-at-11am-pdt/p1
zealous spear
Cheers!
steady jasper
When sexy succubus costume for my waifu elf please. ASKING FOR A FRIEND OFC.
steel whale
do we know when the next alpha is planned?
small pecan
Unfortunately for your friend, Intrepid isn’t planning on overly sexualized costumes!
Here da list
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Costumes#ListOfCosmeticCostumes
steel whale
Unfortunately for you, Intrepid isn’t planning on overly sexualized costumes!
Here da list
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Costumes#ListOfCosmeticCostumes
@small pecan are they going to repeat?
small pecan
Um, if they were available in a monthly bundle, no! But maybe a variant will be obtainable in-game
warped oriole
last alphas appeared to last 2 months
steel whale
I would love to get one of those pre-order packs, but the cosmetics right now are not appealing to me
quick quartz
ohhhhh thanks a lot 
guess its worth buying
oh wait
does progression save on alpha?
thats good i guess
whats pTR
everyone can join even without paying?
its ok im too dumb to understand but thanks a lot anyways
onyx knoll
@quick quartz The public test realms are servers that are split from the live servers where people can go to try out and test new systems that will be released eventually on the live servers. They're usually only accessible by people who pay for the regular game. You don't get any benefits from going to the PTR other then helping the devs and trying out some things before they make it to the live servers 🙂
cyan compass
So, I was wondering if we know when the Alpha 2 testing will begin?
steel whale
Hey, I have another question regarding the PVP in this game... can someone make a comparison to Dark Age of Camelot (my last MMO 20 years ago) ... Ashes of Creation kinda brought me back to the MMO world.
onyx knoll
@cyan compass Unfortunatly not, we only know that alpha 1 will be later this fall
cyan compass
Damn, there's no way of buying Alpha 1 right now right? @onyx knoll
onyx knoll
@cyan compass currently no, but Steven said they MIGHT re-open the sales for it if the initial testing goes well and they need more people
cyan compass
If I buy the Alpha 2 right now, will I be able to upgrade it to the Alpha 1 if it does get sold later?
Nice, thank you very much for your time
quick quartz
oh will you have to pay for alpha 1 or will u get it for free if u buy current pack?
quick quartz
so if u buy the pack for 375 ull have to pay 500 for another pack?
onyx knoll
@steel whale Currently we are in alpha 1 QA, basically there is a small portion of player testing the environment to get it ready for the full Alpha 1. This testing phase is under NDA as previously mentioned, but that NDA will be lifted later this fall when Alpha 1 fully releases and then you'll be able to watch people stream it and release videos on it ^^
junior pagoda
it is like DAOC but with the chance we go to space in future expansions. Definitely holding Steven to that one haha
steel whale
@steel whale Currently we are in alpha 1 QA, basically there is a small portion of player testing the environment to get it ready for the full Alpha 1. This testing phase is under NDA as previously mentioned, but that NDA will be lifted later this fall when Alpha 1 fully releases and then you'll be able to watch people stream it and release videos on it ^^
@onyx knoll I would buy access right now if you give me the link :disappears:
hybrid prism
Lol, same
steel whale
💸
hybrid prism
I was actually planning on asking that since I'd just seen a video that said they were considering opening another chance to buy Alpha 1 keys. Didn't know if it'd be its own thing or buying an "upgrade" from A2 keys
woven moon
Are the older cosmetic items available for purchase in game? Kicking myself for finding out about AoC so late hah
hybrid prism
No
woven moon
O:
warped oriole
once its gone its gone
hybrid prism
I'm pretty sure they've said that those were categorically time exclusive