will sukapon be in the game?
#questions
fleet rock
onyx knoll
@cyan coral You might have missed the most recent dev update on friday 31th
Other then that not much has been shown recently
@fleet rock uh.... Sukapon?
fleet rock
sukapon these nuts
cyan coral
That i saw ,i went after that.
onyx knoll
I walked right into that one π€¦
fleet rock
ez gg
onyx knoll
@cyan coral Then I don't think you've missed anything π Steven leaked some elven low-level armor 3D renders, that's about it
cyan coral
oh ok ty @onyx knoll π
primal solstice
There is a monster elemnts? I mean if im at snow area and there ia some yetti for inatance, if i use fire spells that will increase the dmg dealt?
onyx knoll
@primal solstice there are elemental damage and elemental resistances, but it's not yet clear if they will only apply to pvp, or if some pve fights/creatures also have resistances/weaknesses
primal solstice
Mm interesting , alpha 1 just behind the corner and its still unclearπ
steady ocean
That's generally how it goes with testing.
primal solstice
Okie thx
onyx knoll
To be fair, the devs probably know the answer, they just haven't shared it with us π
primal solstice
Yeah 4 sure still nda....
primal solstice
Yes they try to polish some answer to fit the nda , trying not to leak..
dire flicker
Hey are there any leads whether AoC will have frost school of magicks? (I feel like it is mmo standart, but still π )
crystal beacon
What is that?
steady ocean
There will certainly be frost/ice related spells.
crystal beacon
There will be scientific nodes that act like schools kind of
onyx knoll
We've seen some spells that use ice elements, but currently most of the combat details are still being worked on.
karmic osprey
does anyone have a link to what stealth looks like (so far)? i saw a clip of it in a stream -- running in a town area -- but i haven't been able to locate it again
crystal beacon
Ah, ice spells are sparce
steady ocean
@karmic osprey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehx6mQ-EiW4
crystal beacon
But ice damage augmentation will be a thing
steady ocean
Watch this, it's a cinematic that shows a rogue going stealth. Notice it isn't true stealth, rather you see a shimmer @karmic osprey
karmic osprey
thanks!
steady ocean
The stealth part is in the later section of that cinematic.
karmic osprey
hmm, maybe it was during one of your streams Jahlon
proven root
im assuming we dont know yet how itll work? you probably cant be targeted, but can the shimmer be seen by everyone?
karmic osprey
where is that pic from? looks to be from a different video
steady ocean
It'll likely server as a targeting break. but people can still spot you
onyx knoll
@proven root pretty much. It breaks force targeting, so if someone had you targeted and you stealth then they'll automatically untarget you, but people that pay attention can still spot you and hit you with action-type skills
dire flicker
I feel like the shimmer is going to work by proximity, the closer you get to the targets sight, the bigger detection chance. And stealth, perhaps, will be undetectable for period of time
steady ocean
@karmic osprey That's from the Apoc battle royale footage
karmic osprey
ah, thanks
proven root
Ok makes sense. it would be cool if they could make it alot harder to spot if you stop moving while stealth. It would make it good to ambush, but alot less effective to flee
steady ocean
@karmic osprey Here is footage of a bunch of people going stealth if that helps visualize it https://youtu.be/59ih84Xh5E8?t=20
onyx knoll
@proven root I mean, it WILL be a lot harder to spot when it's not moving, our eyes are trained to spot movement, so we'll notice this sort of shimmer much easier if it's moving then if it's staying still
karmic osprey
cool thanks
proven root
absolutely, agree. now to wait and see how hard itll actually be
sharp forge
will i be able to join multiple guilds?
desert ivy
No. Only 1.
onyx knoll
Not quite true
you can join multiple guilds. On multiple characters
So if your main is in a guild, your alt doesn't have to be in that same guild
But you won't be able to be in more then 1 guild on a single toon
unreal zealot
isnt it citizenship that is the same of characters on a server? i heard it somewhere dont know if its true
livid portal
Will the MMO be open world... like.. How in WoW classic, you can go from the top of the map of a continent to the bottom with out going through a portal, or will it be more like ESO/Guild Wars 2, A portal between each zone ?
lusty kite
onyx knoll
@unreal zealot Correct, citizenship is account-wide.
unreal zealot
well wouldnt it be server wide? no way you could be the same citizen on a different server right?
onyx knoll
@livid portal It'll be open world, no transitions like in GW2
livid portal
ah awesome
onyx knoll
@unreal zealot Er, yeah correct it's account wide per server
unreal zealot
ok ;P
forest pike
when was the most recent test?
onyx knoll
Mh, not sure, Leader of Men are supposed to have one sometime this month but idk if it already happened
desert ivy
Only test we know about is the one that happened at the end of May/start of June for PI. Every test except the PI one in may/june are under NDA so they can't discuss when they happen or what happens in them.
forest pike
I thought verbal nda was lifted
grim venture
They can't talk information about the actual test but saying when was the last test should not be under NDA.
desert ivy
It is
forest pike
yep I agree ^
onyx knoll
The one that isn,t under NDA is the big alpha 1 in fall
the current tests are very small scale and not meant as tests for opinions, just to make sure the game actually functions well enough for when they do open up alpha 1
like if it crashes every 15 minutes, that's a problem
forest pike
would be nice to know a testing is taking place regardless
onyx knoll
they don't need an open testing environment to detect those sort of issues, they don't need the feedbacks of thousands of people yet for that kind of thing
grim venture
That's all fine and I don't even care how many test they have that we can't play in, that's totally fine but not being able to say like when was the last test is stupid to me lol like I don't even wanna know what you played just curious of the number of tests
forest pike
^
onyx knoll
This company is already being WAY more open about their development process then most companies, they're allowed to keep some things close π
forest pike
so what if they make inferences?
opal adder
Cuz it'll spiral out of control, lmao
grim venture
Inferences? With what data? Just because I had like 8-12 test does not reveal anything. The people that ask don't even know what the test was for. I'm sorry it's just plain assumption and stupidity if people think they can get "data" by just knowing when was the last test.
onyx knoll
It puts unnecessary pressures on the team. I get that you guys like to know everything, but at a certain point companies need to be able to do some things without having people constantly looking over their shoulders and trying to figure out every single details π
grim venture
The example I mentioned does not mean this game, it's just a random number lol
forest pike
inferences? more like speculation
livid portal
Where is a good place to suggest ideas for the game?
forest pike
forums
onyx knoll
@livid portal The forums! They read everything on there so that would be your best bet π
livid portal
ah, ok thank you
grim venture
Ahh so the issue is speculation and not like a real threat lol
Freaking speculators man
βΉοΈ
steady ocean
As a reminder, #aoc-discussion is probably the best place for discussion. This channel is for questions/answers. Good topic though! I'm sure others may jump in and answer as well so please do post it in the other channel
grim venture
Does anyone know what classes will be up for alpha 1?
steady ocean
No classes, just some of the primary archetypes
onyx knoll
@grim venture I can't speak for the company and their decision so that is just what we feel is likely. There is already a LOT of speculations around test phases and release dates around this game so I wouldn't be surprised if they chose to minimize it at this stage. But as TSG says this isn't really the place for such an in depth discussion on Intrepid's practices so I'm going to drop it and if you want to keep talking about it you can head to an other channel ^^
steady ocean
We will be able to test some of the classes in Alpha 2 @grim venture
onyx knoll
I believe they plan on having all of the primary archetypes get tested over the course of alpha 1. Initially there will be 5 of them
grim venture
Ahh noice! They haven't talked or shown the Empyreans or Py'Rai?
onyx knoll
we have some concept art, but no final models yet
Steven did show some modeled Empyrean armor this weekend tho
onyx knoll
grim venture
That's the race I'm choosing π
livid portal
any date on when a possible release set yet ?
onyx knoll
Nope
livid portal
ah
onyx knoll
Any date you see people say is only them trying to guess π
livid portal
ill come back in 5 years again then.
grim venture
Might be next year who knows. But Steven and Intrepid doing a amazing job so far.
livid portal
thats what they said like 5 years ago >_<
onyx knoll
Mhh, I would be very shocked if it was next year
opal adder
Him having everything thought out from the getgo sure does help a ton
grim venture
Hey any word on how necromancer is going to look like with abilities and such?
onyx knoll
Necromancer will have the abilities of a summoner, with modifications from the cleric secondary
jovial slate
I hope you get a real necromancer feel
onyx knoll
we don't know yet how those will work
grim venture
That sounds really interesting. I wonder, what abilities will a bladecaller or shadow Lord will have? It's very interesting
onyx knoll
You can tell what ability a class will have by what it's primary is. This is what determines the base skills. Then the secondary will add modifications to those base skills
reef osprey
@grim venture probably the basic fighter skills with a couple of added effects, depending on the augments you choose
don't expect it to be a class on its own
brisk moss
Considering how good looking this game is looking out to be...have you guys thought of VR compatibility?
left ferry
@brisk moss Wow VR would be insane!
brisk moss
imagin!
final oxide
Thatd be crazy
left ferry
Beautiful haha
torpid tangle
When it comes to choosing names can we have multiple Capital letters in our names? such as UsErNaMe?
or does it force first letter capital then the rest is non-capitalized
fringe radish
Do we know if your intrepid account name will show up in game anywhere? I'm considering making a second account before purchasing something because I have close friends I'd rather get the referral bonus than the person I signed up under... But I'm also on the fence because it's my standard screen-name. :<
steady ocean
I'm not sure if we have full details on the naming system. You can read what we know here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Character#Character_naming
novel ice
We were supposed to be getting name reservations close to the Actual alpha so maybe we'll see word on that soon
torpid tangle
word bird
steady ocean
@fringe radish No, it is not your in-game name
Your Intrepid account lets you determine your forum name, so if you want that make sure to change your current account forum name to something you don't care about. So you can then get the name you want on your new account
fringe radish
Yeah, I did see that! Sadly I just changed it (derp) cause it's a new account, so I'll just have to remember to log back in a month and update it. I changed out the email address as well already.
Next (related) question... Has anyone put in an account deletion request? How fast was it?
austere vault
I updated my kickstarter pack to Braver of Worlds some weeks ago, that means I got Alpha 1 access right? Because I saw a YouTube video claiming otherwise
slow meadow
if you have BoW it grants you access to alpha 1 testing this fall.
onyx knoll
@fringe radish it'll probably be a while, they're pretty swamped atm
austere vault
ok great thanks π
fringe radish
TY, I kind of suspected that might be the case but thought I'd ask anyways...
clear heart
Hi there all
hard stirrup
clear heart
I've been trying to register on Intrepid studios site but it just does nothing after I sign up .. just stays there on the same page and the signup button fades out
onyx knoll
just to confirm, this is the page you're trying on, right? https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/register
clear heart
Yes, that is the address
final oxide
Will any items from preorder packs ever be available again in any capacity? Just found one that fits my char perfectly and I'm dying
onyx knoll
Mh, I'm not sure, I'd double check that you wrote your e-mail correctly, and are not using any weird symbols in your username
steady ocean
@clear heart try clearing your browser cache and try again
@final oxide exact cosmetics no, but perhaps some form of a reskin may be possible in the future
clear heart
Will try the cache clearing and review my username
It would appear that It wouldn't give me the username I want. I'm also fully aware that no other user has my username which is really upsetting considering that I'm stuck with this new name π
spiral pine
does it say its taken?
clear heart
It does, but so does PSN, Steam, Epic Games etc. It's like the words are not allowed
spiral pine
So its clearly taken then
clear heart
I've searched for the user on each of those platforms and nobody has the name, close to but not the name.
So I'm just boggled as to how it's taken but I'm incapable of finding the individual that has taken it π€
woven sand
what happens if people use my code when registering?
spiral pine
whats the name
onyx knoll
@woven sand you get 15% of what-ever they purchase as credit
spiral pine
well i found it on steam
clear heart
Probably my account π
woven sand
@onyx knoll do they benefit from using a code at all?
onyx knoll
@woven sand not that i know of
woven sand
@onyx knoll thank you
spiral pine
@clear heart I found profiles on every platform
clear heart
Just "NightAngel" ? No other characters?
spiral pine
Yep
clear heart
That's not their Username, there are 5 in a row with the exact same name on Steam lol> Yep
@spiral pine
spiral pine
I checked the proper way
quartz wing
Hi all π
Just joined this discord so not sure if I should ask here or in general chat.
What phase of testing it this game on? Is it beta or alpha? Asking as I'm curious to figure out when to join .thanks!
quartz wing
Ahh I see. Thanks π
tulip hatch
we're in pre alpha ramping up to Alpha 1
Alpha 0 was a testing session that has ended many years ago
crystal beacon
Hello, i am new to the Discord server for Ashes of Creation. I already made an account on the forums (which was very troublesome to do), but can i still use a referral code to help people out?
dark jungle
if you have already created your account you missed your chance to add a referral code
crystal beacon
You can only use a referral code at registration
west turtle
i gladly let some other desperate ppl give you
onyx knoll
You can only enter a referal code when you're creating the account, so no, you'd have to make a new one
crystal beacon
Understood, thank you.
steep lagoon
Question again, will there be chase items/materials/gatherables that are restricted to nodes on lower tiers? This would make items time limited until the node gets back down to t1 and creates a hotspot. If this is not in the game i take credit for that idea 
dark jungle
resources arent directly tied to nodes
nodes that are close to certain resource locations will benefit from their presence though, but the resources will move to another location when they run out
more info here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Resources
unreal zealot
im pretty sure as a node increases in stages the close mobs and gathering nodes to the settlement is the weaker monsters and gatherable unless its just for mobs im not 100% sure
dark jungle
yes mobs do relate to the stage of advancement of their nearby node. resources on the other hand are not related to a node
unreal zealot
cheers for clearing that up for me β€οΈ
dark jungle
np!
steep lagoon
Too bad, I think it would be cool to have a rare resource only spawn for example on a stage 3 node so there will be ppl going for it and pvp to get that resource
unreal zealot
i mean there will still be areas that have more of a certain type say as an example North node has lots of iron, some wood, not alot of herbs then south node had lots of herbs but not alot of iron or wood. i dont think it will be that drastic but you will need to travel either way to find what your looking for as thee isn't any set spawn rotations for the gathering points you just gather one and it will spawn somewhere else randomly either in the node or the world. once again im not 100% sure so feel free to correct me if im wrong thats just the understanding i got from whats been said in interviews and streams.
steady ocean
@crystal beacon if you really wanted to, you could try deleting your old account and make a new one
crystal beacon
I have no friends that play videogames, i just thought maybe i could give back to the community, but thank you! @steady ocean
steep lagoon
That is not rly what I mean
boreal quartz
@crystal beacon I would offer to be your friend if I was social.
quartz wing
Follow up question to my earlier one about alpha/beta. Given that we are between alpha zero and pre alpha, how does one get into Alpha one? (I see the early access tiers listed on the site, but I don't think they mention alpha one)
onyx knoll
We are in pre-alpha, alpha 0 was ages ago. You can not currently get into alpha 1 which will start in fall, the sales are closed. They MIGHT MAYBE reopen them but that's a shot in the dark. You can however buy a pre-order pack that includes access to either the betas or alpha 2 for when those happen in the future
quartz wing
I see. Thanks Xenellia, seems like I'll have to wait. Sounds like a super exciting game!
Wish I saw the Kickstarter earlier. Lol
onyx knoll
We're all pretty hyped haha, luckly alpha 1 won't have an NDA so we can vicariously live through streamers and youtoubers π
quartz wing
I will! Knew about this by a YouTube video I saw today by LazyPeon
stiff dome
Will the whole world be divided in nodes or will there be some nodeless territories?
crystal beacon
There is no nodeless territory.
spring dagger
most of the ocean will probably be nodeless
crystal beacon
There is no confirmation.
stiff dome
Alright, thank you!
thick lagoon
Perhaps dumb question, but can you jump in Ashes? I was watching the 4K video and I see Steven rolling around, but not jumping.
unreal zealot
yes there is jumping
dark jungle
yes
unreal zealot
they do jump in the 4k video i think over some acid in a cave and one of them fails to make the jump
terse yarrow
I'm sure this has been asked countless times, my apologies, but is there a release window for Alpha 1 atm? I'm itching to see this game from player perspectives.
unreal zealot
end of fall is whats been said so far and nda after fall so i dont know if nda is released after they have fix major bugs after a few weeks of alpha one or if there going to release it without nda form the get go
thick lagoon
I wonder if jumping turns to rolling in combat
dark jungle
rogues and fighters will be able to dodge roll
thick lagoon
Well Steven was playing a mage and rolling. But tho is pre-alpha so who knows.
I just hope movement like jumping isnβt restricted in certain scenarios.
onyx knoll
only form of movement that has been mentionned as being restricted to certain scenarios is the parkour/climbing stuff
stiff dome
From what I've seen, this game will heavily depend on the players actions upon the world and the world reacting accordingly. Has there been any news about a main Storyline or will the Game revolve around conquering nodes and acquiring node specific quests along the way instead of a overarching questline that drives the player to conquer more nodes?
steady ocean
There is an overarching storyline, yes.
That being said it isn't a theme park where you are lead from one quest to another. As you explore the world, level up nodes, and do PVX content, you will unlock new quests and new information that will unlock the lore for you and your server
ebon arch
is there any game like that today?
stiff dome
Thank you for answering
@ebon arch The closest game I know that resembles this is BDO but it's a stretch
hardy bolt
mmm, bdo storyline isn't really relevant and the nodes are static :(
olive timber
just tried to buy something through the intrepid store
got this problem:
2001: It looks like the Payment System is currently unavailable. Please try again with a different payment method or contact our customer support for further assistance at help.xsolla.com.
anyone else having this issue?
plucky pawn
@olive timber Hey there! Would you mind sharing a screenshot of this error? And which payment method were you looking to use?
mild fable
Will additional pre-orders be available again, e.g. the $500 w/ lifetime sub, etc..?
onyx knoll
@mild fable I doubt they'll bring back the lifetime sub, but they might reopen the sales of the pre-order packs that had the alpha 1 keys if they need more people
mild fable
ok cool, if getting the 375 now, do they offer upgrades?
onyx knoll
yep, you can upgrade for the difference
If you don't like the cosmetics they have now you can wait
They change every month
mild fable
yeah i saw that, was going to wait till the next round... the dark something looked awesome
was looking at the original kickstarter packs, braver of world is the sweet spot for me
onyx knoll
Margaret said there would be a darker themed one coming soon-ish, probably not next month but in a somewhat close future
(probably for october)
plucky pawn
Ah to clarify - purchasing one of the packs available now will NOT allow you to upgrade to the Kickstarter packages, which it sounds like you're mentioning.
The $375 one would be the top tier you would be able to get at this point 
(those Kickstarter packs are no longer available to buy into - our existing Kickstarter members are still able to upgrade though!)
onyx knoll
Ah yeah sorry I missed that, the kickstarter stuff is long gone. You could upgrade to the 500$ pack IF they decide to bring it back
olive timber
@plucky pawn got it fixed! Problem on my end with my bank flagging it as a suspicious transaction. This also happened when my buddy bought the voyager plus pack.
mild fable
Any idea if you might offer those again?
plucky pawn
Ahhh okay @olive timber , glad to hear you were able to get it worked out!
olive timber
However I now have the Voyager pack - see you in alpha 2!
onyx knoll
@mild fable Not exactly those, that's for sure. The old cosmetics from either previous pre-orders or from the kickstarter are all exclusives so they won't be coming back
desert ivy
@mild fable They won't offer any of the bonuses again that the kickstarter packs had such as the lifetime sub, cosmetics, or anything like that
Only things that you'll get is what's currently offered such as game time, embers, the test phases, name reservations, and new monthly cosmetics
onyx knoll
Lifetime subs for a game that only has a sub isn't a great business model π
mild fable
ok thanks for the info!
onyx knoll
o7
rare tendon
any idea on how much space the game will take up? like how many GB?
or will that be determined when the game comes out
round belfry
onyx knoll
hard to say, at the moment the alpha requirement ask for 15 GB of available space but that's probably gona increase as they add more content
rare tendon
oh didnt see that ty
raven holly
Hello
Regarding the auctionhouse and the players' own stores, will these stores have a fixed price for an object, for example a sword, or will it be possible for the player to determine the price of an object based on whether it is difficult to obtain etc?
rigid rose
@raven holly the price is determined by the player posting.
raven holly
no restrictions?
rigid rose
unknown what restrictions are for sure at this point.
onyx knoll
as far as we currently know, nothing has been mentioned about restrictions
raven holly
lets say a "fixed" price from this to that
onyx knoll
Steven even said scamming would be a part of the game, if you get sold something for 3 times the price, too bad so sad
You mean like in BDO?
raven holly
yeah
onyx knoll
From what we know that isn't gona be a thing
raven holly
good to know, π thank you all
carmine cipher
Who do I need to get into contact with in regards to AoC / Intrepid content creation. As in... Potential talks of a partnership, or something along the lines of a 'Content Creator' program.
onyx knoll
They aren't currently accepting anyone else into the official content creator programm but you can reach out to them here: pr@intrepidstudios.com
brittle ferry
Well honestly people just started creating content, then they did recognized content Creator's after a few started getting community recognition.
Yeah email is probably a good start
fleet meteor
thats favouritism isnt it
slow meadow
some people are content creators from the original program. that program is supposed to get revamped so until it does you can reach out but there's no guarantees at this point.
jovial slate
What do you think about an group of enemies with random levels? For example: you are lvl 10, the group of enemies you encounter is not fixed lvl 10, but between 8 and 12 at random. So each time you go to the same spot it still feels different.
brittle ferry
Hopefully before the NDA is lifted and all that
crisp holly
@jovial slate That is a question for #aoc-discussion. But the level of enemies will not be effected by what level you are. There might be a group of lvl 10 spiders one spot and near ish by there might be lvl 25 bears and/or lvl 4 goblins.
jovial slate
Ty
ashen vault
I have a question. I just watched a video by Jahlon and he said that you could make your name and then the person next to you could make your name plus a last name. Is that correct? (for example, Sphinx and Sphinx Boy)
slow meadow
yes the game will support surnames
ashen vault
Thank you for the answer (even if I find it disappointing since I would like my first name to be unique)
slow meadow
why? there are literally thousands of Johns in the world, its a normal occurrence and fits with the semi-real vibe Intrepid seem to be going for.
raw gyro
is it possible to fro players to be names the same? perhaps a sorta background number that helps differentiate between the two?
and if i remember correctly, both names have to be at least 2 letters?
ah okay 3, got it, thx
red flicker
Jahlon exciting to see you here helping to teach us noobs haha
Awesome thanks, just finished reading it all no your going to go update it on me ππ Thanks for your hard work
ashen vault
I have another question. I saw that you can place a guild hall on an individual's freehold and I saw something mentioned about Guild Freeholds. What is the difference between the two or is their a difference?
Gotcha! Thank you so much and thank you for your awesome videos!
delicate bone
I've heard the price of $15 per month being said often, any idea if there will be a discount on buying an annual sub instead?
slow meadow
while it seems likely, there has not been any confirmation from Intrepid that there will be a bulk discount on the sub.
wary coral
which package I should buy to join this game right now or earliest?
crystal flax
Right now you can't, the soonest and cheapest would be 250
wary coral
oh
any date for next alpha test?
thank all, I will buy $250 package when have exact date for alpha 2
what is it mean?
slow meadow
when the game launches you will have 6 months of sub already paid for.
wary coral
thank you
fiery raft
@random crater no sadly shitty my.com publishes for EU
But all right on the cashshop stays on the devs, so no chance for p2w
delicate bone
i doubt it, but that would be hilarious
crystal flax
That wasn't why it was stopped, I believe it was website issues that just never really got fixed
peak wasp
I heard that the agreement with intrepid is they can make no changes at all, only publish for legal reasons
crystal flax
If you have an Intrepid account you can eventually transfer over when the time comes
fiery raft
Just buy it for now from interpid as i do, and transfer it later (close to release) to my.com over
crystal flax
There is a mygames site for it (I think)
But that just means you have an Intrepid account right now
There's no region lock so you could play NA if you wanted to avoid the other publisher
untold reef
for how much the game will be in egypt? (i mean the monthly sub)
ok
how can i test the game? or when can i play it?
that would be great choice
what will i get from sigining in before sptember?
cosmic shell
How do you get access or the potential for access to the ALPHA test this month? Assuming this months test doesn't automatically include Intrepid pack or kickstarter holders.
desert ivy
You don't anymore unless you already have a kickstarter pack
If you do, you need to upgrade to the $1000 Leader of Men pack
hot shard
super long shot question probably not worth asking this early but;
Is there any chance there will be hats? Specifically ones that don't hid my characters hair?
fleet meteor
The current pack has a dinky basket hat. They still working on low level gear so there will no doubt be more hats. But your colour and preference who knows
@hot shard
dreamy temple
our next livestream will be 8/31 right?
desert ivy
They haven't done anything like that in the past
full badger
@random crater Anyone with a green name in this discord is an official content creator for Ashes. The active ones right now are Jahlon, Simurgh, Lazy Peon and Shaze
Simurgh does a weekly podcast for Ashes, and streams theorycrafting discussions every day. Shaze does all the transcripts from the dev livestreams and Q&As, and Lazy Peon does general coverage and information videos
Yeah
crystal beacon
Will the skins that are included in the pre-order packs be available to purchase once the game releases or are they exclusive to pre-orders?
crystal flax
Things in the monthly packs are exclusive to that month
somber basalt
@dreamy temple Hasn't been announced but it's usually on the last Friday of the month. So that would be the 28th but not guaranteed.
left cargo
Do they send out announcements when they are going to remove a package in their store?
crystal flax
In the past they announced before they took down the A1 sales, and the monthly cosmetics have dates for when they switch out, this next one being September 2nd
undone magnet
I know steven said the team plans to balance around group combat over solo. But has he mentioned how they plan to approach balancing overall? Example being (x thing becomes super meta and dominates all other forms of play so it gets nerfed, or would they instead prefer to buff the weaker options y and z)
runic rain
I'm very excited for the prospects of the game! Thank you for being transparent on the ideas and concepts you all are working towards!
I believe I remember there being a mention of around 10k population on servers. From what I'm able to gather with the interdependent nature of the game mechanics, there's a need for a wide variety of players on each server in order to have a healthy, competitive ecosystem of change. There needs to be a balance of adventure class roles to fulfill the trinity system. There needs to be a relative balance of professions in each of the 3 archetypes for gathering, processing, crafting. There needs to be clergy progressing religions. There needs to be citizens and mayors to progress the strategy of resource sharing amongst nodes & vassals. Players will need to defend & contribute to their homesteads & guild castles.
Where I'm sure players will overlap in many of these ways to some extent, I fear that randomly striking the necessary balance in all of these areas will be like winning the lottery.
Has there been any thought to balancing out the types of players between servers to account for the potential where "Server A" has enough people interested in the necessary areas of the game to keep the server progressing & changing?
Is there a limit to the number of citizens a node can have to prevent everyone on a server from joining the same node?
What if, during the account creation, you could briefly survey the user to determine what type of player they are and thereby encourage them to joining servers low in their player-types?
It could also be that I'm giving too much weight and responsibility to the non-combat mechanics you've described; maybe they're just side-shows and most of the game will still be combat oriented... It's unclear though.
ruby swift
what will i get from sigining in before sptember?
@untold reef You get a small commemorative statue that is "struggles with covid" as a house decoration.
"Has there been any thought to balancing out the types of players between servers to account for the potential where "Server A" has enough people interested in the necessary areas of the game to keep the server progressing & changing?" 8-10k concurrent with 50k signed up are the current stated population targets. First come first serve with the exception of a possible guild reservation mechanic on launch.
@runic rain
"Is there a limit to the number of citizens a node can have to prevent everyone on a server from joining the same node?" Citizenship is limited by owning housing. Housing is limited by node level and available space in the node. Housing gets more expensive with each level and apartment purchases. So eventually reaches a soft cap where it is no longer sustainable to keep adding people to the node as citizens.
"What if, during the account creation, you could briefly survey the user to determine what type of player they are and thereby encourage them to joining servers low in their player-types?" <opinion> This is almost always ignored by people and would be just "make-work" for Intrepid.
runic rain
@ruby swift - True, I wonder if there are any other solutions or if the mechanics will all have some kind of soft-caps/guardrails so ensure each server is balanced in the needs of the societal systems.
honest solstice
will there be like a job board in taverns that have quests attached ?
ruby swift
From previous statements, yes
hollow dust
@runic rain supply/demand will do the trick i guess.
real sleet
@runic rain there is word on the Wiki of the so called World Manager. From the idea as far as I see it this should work as a guard rail to balance things out a bit. Besides this, exactly the unbalances are what will make the world constantly changing and keep it interesting.
vernal swallow
Question: Suppose if there are two metropolitan nodes of same type (say scientific) with same racial architecture (say Py'rai). Will they look alike, or are they gonna be different when it comes to the city layout and overall structure?
ruby swift
Same layout. Was answered in a livestream. The complexity involved would be waaay to much for such a limited instance. Now the individual buildings built by the mayor may be different. So they would techinically not be the same.
crystal beacon
Q: Is is correct that in order to store items and resources I need to be a citizen (node stage 3+) and have a house/freehold/apartment? If so how do I store things until a node reaches stage 3?
ruby swift
You don't apparently
Storage is local.
Can't be dropping berry stashes in the woods.
You can have property in a node without being a citizen. Property is needed to gain citizenship.
vernal swallow
Is it true that we can only have one in-node house per server?
ruby swift
yep
Storage and how it works will be made more clear. But it will be local to that node. Leave 2000 wood in Mistmire and it goes to zero from a siege, lose your wood. You won't be putting 2000 wood in storage in one location and pulling it out 4 nodes over.
vernal swallow
yep
@ruby swift If that's the case, then how can players take part in real estate without hitting the saturation (Meaning, everyone in the server has a house so no one can buy or sell one)?
ruby swift
Nodes are huge, and they have done the pesky math that shows them there is enough available. Only answer we got right now.
grizzled latch
You buy a house early and sell it later for profit.
You can only have 1 so there won't be slum lords sucking up lots of valuable housing
vernal swallow
You buy a house early and sell it later for profit.
@grizzled latch but what if everyone has a house already, and you cannot sell it to anyone? (Hypothetical possibility)
opal adder
U siege
grizzled latch
There will always be those willing to dump theirs to upgrade
hollow dust
people will lose them from siege
vernal swallow
U siege
@opal adder yeah, siege is a good answer. I didn't think of that.
hollow dust
Housing demand will be dependant on siege success
grizzled latch
Selling apartments will be risky but in city housing will always have demand
ruby swift
Sorry, probably my fault from posting opinions and theory. Please take discussion to relevant channels.
opal adder
Yeah, I bet people will lose a lot of homes over the course of time
Let alone getting sieged for perfect real estate locations
hollow dust
The node come back to 0 and will be probably locked from other node
vernal swallow
@grizzled latch but what if everyone has a house already, and you cannot sell it to anyone? (Hypothetical possibility)
@vernal swallow So this situation is very unlikely to happen, right?
opal adder
Wasnt housing at stage 3?
hollow dust
So if you own a level 4 node housing near a metropolis, you will win real estate money if the metropolis is destroyed as your node will likely become the new metropolis.
vernal swallow
Wasnt housing at stage 3?
@opal adder yes
opal adder
Nice
So locking out will prevent you from rebuilding and u gotta move, if u get whiped
Unless u do freehold innit
vernal swallow
Beautiful
opal adder
Noice
hollow dust
They will be of course a rush for nearby city (level 4) to become the next metroplis, and with the huge ZOI of metroplois, they are probably several cities interested in destroying the metropolis
So there is a real estate incentive to destroy metropolis, and also unlocking new PVE content incentive, changing metropolis node type incentive.
and idem for defense incentive. Because the node itself come back to 0, but a city will take it's place so you just have to get from lvl4 to lvl5 to have metropolis services available again so the lack of content or services should not really be a defense incentive (and there is 4 other metropolis anyway).
How does that work by the way, does the ZOI of the metropolis block the XP earning of cities or put them to 0 ? So any progress during a city rush to metroplis is saved or reset when another city become metropolis ?
ruby swift
Has not been clarified.
Statements in the past are that you won't know the exp level of a node. That way no one knows when it is going to "pop"
clever quartz
This might have been answered before, but I just havent seen it yet then. But I was playing Aion like 7 months ago, and in that game, only the "big" guilds was able to do shit. Only big guilds did siege wars, did world bosses, and was then able to do high end pve dungeons cause they got the gear and items to do it, cause their guild got all the good shit. There was no point in making a guild with your friends, cause you wouldnt be able to do anything. Only join the "big" guilds. How will this work in AOC. Is that just the way things work, or will there be systems in place, making sure all content in the game, is actually for everyone, and not just for the guilds attracting more people. @idle siren This is a good question for you π
grizzled latch
@vernal swallow you can sell your house back to the node if you want to
You aren't stuck with one permanently
A small guild can't get 40 people together to do a raid, thats just how things are in MMOs. You wont see all the content unless you're in a guild that can pull off raids of that size or ally with guilds to make up the diffrence.
clever quartz
Thank god
ruby swift
@clever quartz All tagging Steven, while you may win the lottery and get an answer, just adds to the spam he deals with on logging on. This channel is 99% handled by people in the community. Though we do occasionally get a dev response. "Please, check the #faq channel first. If your question is not answered, you may ask it here. This is not an official Customer Service support location. If you need assistance with your account, please place a Customer Service Ticket here: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.
This channel is for the community to help one another answer questions and resolve issues outside of Customer Service."
clever quartz
just adds to the spam he deals with on logging on.
Can't imagine he gets spammed 
But true shit, sorry π₯
ruby swift
He was getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-4k DMs for awhile.
clever quartz
Haha π
ruby swift
Daily
grizzled latch
Staying competitive is diffrent than being able to do all content, just keep that in mind
undone magnet
Rip my question got buried by that massive question post
ruby swift
Ask it again. We will help if we can.
undone magnet
I know steven said the team plans to balance around group combat over solo. But has he mentioned how they plan to approach balancing overall? Example being (x thing becomes super meta and dominates all other forms of play so it gets nerfed, or would they instead prefer to buff the weaker options y and z)
ruby swift
They have said they will adjust abilities that are found to be "game-breaking"
undone magnet
Well that's sort of a given. Was more interested in how they planned on balancing stuff in general. Since certain abilities/augments are likely to become the best to use.
I was curious if the devs planned ongoing the nerf the strong or buff the weak type of balancing
ruby swift
That is all they have said. Only answer we got.
clever quartz
I know alpha one is getting more players this august, then alpha 2 will come at some point. But did they state around what time, beta will come? Where all players can get into the game?
undone magnet
Alright thanks, I'll try to see if I can get my question into a QnA sometime
ruby swift
There are no timelines given anymore. They missed some early dates and the "community" lost their damn minds in rage. They now only give dates for things they know will happen.
clever quartz
I see
Let's hope they did such a great job, that alpha 2 and beta will come soon π
ruby swift
Just updated graphics drivers. Doing a restart. Brb.
dapper chasm
But Beta isnt for 'everyone'...the launch/release is :D
beta is also just for the People who have the keys
ruby swift
For Beta2 yes.
dapper chasm
Then dont buy it^^
grizzled latch
There is actual testing that needs to go on during alpha 1 and they dont know exactly how long that will take. They are reluctant to release dates they might not meet.
wild marsh
Buying that will also allow you to buy individual skins everytime they come out which are exclusive so its worth it in the end. And if that's the case then don't buy it
ruby swift
There will be plenty of people streaming throughout the Alpha and Beta phases. You would have an idea. Also, some packages have extra beta keys to give away. Content creators will be getting TBD amounts to gift also.
midnight goblet
@clever quartz I paid $300 for something i may not like twice
One for me and one for meh dad
clever quartz
@wild marsh Oh so there will be skins normal players wont be able to buy like each year?
ruby swift
Each month
clever quartz
Oh damn
wild marsh
Each month there's exclusive skins you can buy
clever quartz
Might have to go and throw those 75$ at them then 
clever quartz
So those skins will change each month, but i wont be able to buy a special mount i like, say 7 months in, cause i didnt get the expensive package from start?
Or is it enought to buy the cheap package now, and i will have access to all special skins later?
ruby swift
You can purchase individual cosmetics at your tier or lower.
clever quartz
I see
ruby swift
with the $75 one you can buy the $5 accessory in future months.
ruby swift
When upgrading you only pay the difference. Some people do that. But the rules on what cosmetics you get are confusing to some. Ask if you don't understand.
clever quartz
So if i pay 75$ now, and 5 months into the game, i see a skin i want, but i need the 150$ package to be able to get it. Can i then "upgrade" by paying 75$ more, and then the cost of the skin ofc
ruby swift
Yes, you would get the pet from that months package you upgraded in. And have the option to purchase the accessory for $5
wild marsh
Depending on the upgrade you could get the skin included I'm pretty sure.
ruby swift
You do NOT get the pet from the original month you purchased in.
clever quartz
Alrighty
ruby swift
And from then on in future months you could buy either the acc or pet, or both.
clever quartz
Ye ye i see
Sweet
I feel my wallet is gonna take a swing, if they do good on skins 
ruby swift
There are several examples of previous skins already modeled in game.
wild marsh
Ik some companies don't like this so I'd like to know prior. I'm slowly convincing my gf to get the game. We live with each other and share the same ip (obviously) can I get her to use the referral code? Some places will ban you if you use your referral on the same ip so I'd like to know prior if it's allowed or not.
ruby swift
It is allowed. Because referrals only benefit you if they spend money.
No reason to make 50 dummy referrals.
frosty kelp
Wait, when is the transition to the new set of cosmetic items each month?
brave parrot
Hi all, I've been watching this game pretty closely for the last year or two and I'm hugely excited for it! I'm a software engineer myself and I've been mulling over the concept of building a web based interactive world map to keep players up to date with information regarding node developments, including current ZOIs, resource and trade routes, siege wars that are active or scheduled to commence etc. My biggest question, and something that I haven't been able to find myself, is if something like this will exist in the game itself essentially making this sort of tool redundant. Does anyone have any info regarding this?
This would also likely tie in with a database of items, quests and such similar to that of wowhead, wowdb etc
grizzled latch
No similar feature is yet planned, but quite a few people are looking to design similar projects
New cosmetics are in the first week of the month, it is announced a week before transition
young elk
what's the pet's role?collect loot or...
unreal zealot
they are combat pets but they dont add damage they take something like 10% of the damage you would deal with out it and deal it its self. unless that's changed recently.
young elk
reef osprey
@unreal zealot that hasn't been confirmed like that. That's a community assumption.
We merely know that there will be trade offs. We do neither know what the pets do nor how a trade off looks like
pearl holly
If I merged with my steam account can I play on both steam and websites Launcher ?
young elk
will we see this game in steam?
nocturne tide
With proffesions is it going to be that you can choose one from gathering, processing and crafting?
full badger
@nocturne tide When it comes to mastering professions, you can master 1 of the 3 main lines - Gathering, Processing or Crafting.
opal adder
You can choose all, but master only (unknown amount) amount in the same branch
full badger
After that, you will only be able to master professions in the main line that you choose, but right now we don't know how many individual professions you can master
nocturne tide
Right ok
opal adder
Ah true, let me correct
nocturne tide
So if i choose gathering i can master mining/herbalism/animal husbandry
At the same time, but can only get to whatevers below master in processing and crafting branches?
full badger
Yes but like I said, we don't know yet how many of those individual gathering professions you'll be able to master
nocturne tide
Right ok awesome. Thanks (:
young elk
1m subscription is about 10-15$?
unreal zealot
$15 yes
potent thunderBOT
unreal zealot
it starts without nda end of fall
full badger
Yeah the NDA is still in effect so there's no footage yet @raw tinsel
unreal zealot
end of every month we get a dev stream tho updating us on things
raw tinsel
November 30th then:-:
unreal zealot
well technically fall ends on the 21st december
and starts 22nd of sept
so i imagine alpha 1 with no nda to be between december and beginning of jan
unreal zealot
will be worth the wait tho
raw tinsel
Yeah this game will literally change the face of mmos
crystal beacon
Rip WoW
raw tinsel
It'll be like when I played wizard 101 at 8 years of age and thought it was the best game ever made and could only think about that world every moment I was awake
Only I'm an adult now
unreal zealot
i woudlnt over hype it tho if there is to much hype it can damage the game more so its best to go into it with tepid hopes and dreams
unreal zealot
anyway we best go to #general-discussion as this is for questions xD
raw tinsel
True
velvet fern
So nothing untill the end of the year... At least...
raw tinsel
Or phrase everything we say in the form of a question?
Bypass the system?
Cheat the discord general etiquette?
crystal beacon
Is AoC going to kill WoW?
eternal kite
no, next question
crystal beacon
I'd say yes, probably?
eternal kite
how will AoC take over China's market?
hallow torrent
Hopefully it will be designed as a great mmo not as a taking over countries mmo
eternal kite
cause they have stated multiple times, that a large portion if not most of their income from WoW is from chinese market. Even if not a single soul played WoW in the West, it would still hold strong. So no, AoC will not kill WoW. It won't even "kill" it in the West. There's just too many players and it's been out for a long time
hallow torrent
depends what you mean by kill...
raw tinsel
Yeah bit every great game dies eventually
And if something is better than a predecessor, it takes precedence
crystal beacon
kill could mean that they reach the equal numbers or even more in the release months
raw tinsel
People are tired of wow, its been milked
crystal beacon
+1
eternal kite
that's a strong statement and not one with any support. If a game is updated and taken care of, and if it brings in money, it won't die easily
onyx knoll
Please keep this channel clear for questions ;) feel free to move this discussion to #general-discussion
rich anchor
nothing is going to kill wow but wow itself ....
its like D&D π you will always have people playing it if they can
velvet fern
@raw tinsel do u believe it will be the mmmoprg we've been waiting for years?? π€£
rich anchor
just take runescape ... gfx don't matter
hallow torrent
Got a question regarding nodes: If a node is developed in one corner of the map and reaches highest rank, can a node be developed in the opposite side of the map at the same rank?
rich anchor
its all about the community
steady ocean
As long as it isn't within that stage 6 node, it's possible. 5 nodes can reach stage 6, it depends on the surrounding nodes @hallow torrent
hallow torrent
or is it just nodes around that zone that won't be able to develop further if a node grows to metropolis status
steady ocean
The node has to be the "parent" node in order to advance stages. This means the highest level node will be the first to advance. Once it does go up a stage, the vassal nodes around it can then level up in order
rich anchor
@hallow torrent yes. Nodes only got impact on the nodes next to it. So you can have multiple max nodes in the whole world
hallow torrent
that sounds good
rich anchor
maps also way to big to only have 1 max node :p
steady ocean
@hallow torrent Here is a nice visualization someone made on the forums
hallow torrent
If there can be aprox 100+ nodes with 50 appartments/node after rank 3-4 (cant remember which) this means not all players will have access to player housing if a server holds 8-10k players?
hallow torrent
Sweet, cheers !
steady ocean
There isn't necessarily a hard cap on housing/citizenship. It just gets more and more expensive respectively the more of each there is. So the price acts as a soft cap
vernal salmon
is ice/fire skin available just this month? I kinda want it, but just seeing concept art without an idea of how it actually will look... isn't quite enough for me
fringe radish
Wasn't that a reward for the summer crowdfunding campaign?
crystal flax
If you're referring to the elemental skins, then you have a Kickstarter pack, right?
onyx knoll
uh? This month is the fishing themed ones, the ice/fire skins... wasn't that from kickstarter?
crystal flax
You should be able to get those up until they announce closure of pack upgrades
Since those aren't monthly
onyx knoll
vernal salmon
@crystal flax Thanks. Yes it is still available to me (I got kickstarter)
Thought they only lasted a month or something in the shop
onyx knoll
Yeah we doN't have final renders for those, but as Volpur says you can upgrade at any point
Nah the kickstarter stuff isn't montly
grizzled latch
They have not announced an end to kickstarter/summer backer upgrades and they will probably end up being available until at least beta testing starts(just speculation there) . If you have the option to get one of the racial skins be aware that it is not a costume, they actually change your race so you can wear a costume/armor over the skin. Im not sure about the elemental ones specifically but the demon/angel ones have different color options i think.
mild copper
Hey guys i got a question about the Map overview in-game. Will you be able to see the size and type of a Node on the World map?
onyx knoll
As far as I understand it, we won't see the node type on the maps, at least initially. Steven wants to encourage discovery. As for the size.. I don't know. I think it would make sense that we can at least see the borders, but maybe they'll decide against it
Would be a good question to put in during the next Q&A π
onyx knoll
do you mean for combat?
onyx knoll
There will be a tab-targeting system, yes. The combat is hybrid, a bit like GW2
So some skills will require you to have a target, while others you can free aim
young elk
oh,thx
forest pike
You will be able to choose the play style for each skill right? Up to 75% of total skills could be one of the styles right?
mild copper
@onyx knoll so i guess there is no existing answer right now? And yeah maybe we can ask in Q&A about the world map at all
onyx knoll
As far as I know I don't think it was ever confirmed that you would be able to see the zones of influences on the map. The only thing I know for sure Steven has mentioned that is related to the map is that dungeon entrances will NOT show up on it
young elk
Is there any "ammo system" for rangers like in wow classic or they'll have endless arrows
onyx knoll
@young elk Currently I don't think the ranged weapons require you to carry ammo around, but that might change
@young elk The potion launcher might require you to have special ammo tho, if it makes it into the final game
young elk
"potion launcher"
@onyx knoll
young elk
onyx knoll
it was in APOC but it's not been confirmed for the MMO
fringe radish
NGL Potion Launcher sounds amazing
summer elbow
Hiya, I heard AoC is supposed to have character creation similar to BDO, is that true?
slow meadow
yes they said they are shooting for something like that
crystal flax
That's what they intend to have but currently there isn't one really
reef osprey
@summer elbow planned yes,
it is planned to have some more limitations on the "realism" of the characters
summer elbow
What do you mean?
onyx knoll
they don't want it to be possible to make a character with super wonky proportions like in Tera
reef osprey
exactly
summer elbow
Oh, thank god
fringe radish
I do hope they open body proportions up a bit more than games normally do. π€ It always makes me sad when humans have a height difference of like 5 inches max in videogames... Except for men being like 3 feet taller than women. :<
I'd also be really happy to see more body variation for male characters 
crystal flax
There's probably going to be a range of heights appropriate for the races, like in FFXIV
woeful vector
Considering that theyve said they want their character customization on par or better than BDO I dont think you meed to worry
fringe radish
Oh for sure! I'm not super worried about it and not having those things isn't a deal-breaker, but it would be super cool.
FFXIV heights aren't bad, but the body customization itself is a bit mediocre. It'd be nice to be able to have less masculine men and more masculine women across all games if people want those types of characters.
Vs the standard for races which is typically either super masculine one gender and super feminine the other
crystal beacon
Will there be obtainableTitels that are shown at the character menu in the game? I gave some of my characters in other mmos names like lord or lady xxx, and if they had titles included in the game it was a bit awkward to run around later as lord lord xxx or Darth lord xxx or something like that ^^
onyx knoll
There are titles that come with some positions within the game. We don't know yet how they will be displayed
young elk
"PK King"
onyx knoll
Plus titles from kickstarter and such
crystal beacon
Ok good to know ty :) and is anything known about the maximum requirements for aoc yet? I can only find the minimum :(
woeful vector
If you complete achievements it will add titles to your name
reef osprey
xXxPvPGod1337xXx [Playername]
woeful vector
Ok good to know ty π and is anything known about the maximum requirements for aoc yet? I can only find the minimum :(
@Zappenduster.7618/Schnee#1894
Remember itβs not even in Alpha stage yet so requirements currently is more theoretical than fact
onyx knoll
Maximum requirements? Like for running the game? We have minimum and recommended requirements for alpha, but it's way too early to know what they'll be for launch
woeful vector
πId take that with a grain of salt until we actually get to A1 (Alpha 1)
young elk
Storage: 15 GB of available space lil game
woeful vector
Remember the only constant in game development is change
dark jungle
if things change, then they will update the specs
unreal zealot
@young elk only 20% of the world is in alhpa one or its just alpha island still
dark jungle
we have been testing the A1 client for a while now
young elk
okaaaay @unreal zealot
buoyant rune
dark jungle
mostly not
fringe radish
Those specs are pretty reasonable π€
dark jungle
there might be some region locking if there is a special sub price for a region though
but in general EU can play on NA with no problems
dark jungle
o7
nocturne tide
Any idea on how secondary class switching is gonna work?
reef osprey
@nocturne tide we don't know any details.
but it will be possible, but it will take some work
vernal salmon
hopefully not locked, I'm EU but I don't want my.com servers... so I'll stick to NA servers
onyx knoll
You'll just have to pay the NA sub price
vernal salmon
that's fine
proud thicket
I have a question pertaining to Node relations.
If there were several established Parent nodes, could you effectively form alliances and wage large scale wars between the sides?
fair yew
Yes, there will be city alliances and trade agreements as well as guild alliances
proud thicket
Thank you!
wheat snow
when is the next development update,QnA or something similar? thank you
fringe radish
Usually towards the end of each month or the beginning of the next month π
mild copper
I know already that the gear is supposed to be for all races and genders, but can every class put on every weapon? Like a mage can hold a sword and get all benefits of it? or will there be restrictions.
slow meadow
mostly yes. there may be some restrictions for abilities (ie shield bash requiring a shield to be usable) but there are no restrictions being placed on weapons based on class.
mild copper
So a mage can cast fireballs and teleport around with an two-handed sword equipped?
onyx knoll
Some archertypes have passives that encourage the use of specific weapons or armors
mild copper
sounds nice
novel ice
Alot like ESO tbh and a good thing.
deft dragon
the passives make me think that not using the armor type intended for your class may not be ideal, like you'd be making sacrifices for the choice
static sedge
true, i hope it is balanced well as in games like ESO pvp is highly favoured towards Heavy armor even with passives incentivizing light armor. Made it a rough time for some assassins as mages can keep up their protection constantly with all the bonus armor given due to heavy on top of it.
unreal zealot
there will always be benefits to using different armours i think light armour is best against magic where as heavy is physical
fair yew
They have said that while there will be advantages to wear armor that is best suited for your class it will still be feasible to wear other armor types
young elk
there will always be benefits to using different armours i think light armour is best against magic where as heavy is physical
hi to archeage
deft dragon
as long as you balance the base classes to be capable of PvP in their base armor type, with appropriate passive and active skills for defense, etc. Plenty of games that have done that where you have casters in cloth and they survive fine.
wet dagger
any news on alpha two test phase?
real sleet
@deft dragon It's not that the armor is tailored to a class, but to a certain type of mitigation. Wiki states light armor leaning towards magic defense, heavy armor towards physical resistance. So it might even be a Tank wearing light armor in a magic heavy encounter. I like!
random cedar
will be the a1,b1 and b2 tests able in europe ?
onyx knoll
There are test servers in Europe, yes
random cedar
okay super cool, thank you
wintry seal
will we have cape's like lineage 2 on ashes?
sand mist
Is the soundtrack epic? I know bear mccreary is doing it. I hope itβs awesome
split crown
I have a question
Is there any information on the intended skill gap between players for class mechanics? For instance, in FFXIV the average Black Mage does about 50% the dps of a good black mage at the same ilvl. The average Red Mage on the other hand does about 80% of the damage of a good red mage at the same ilvl.
Basically what I'm asking, is player skill going to matter or will it be more like Path of exile where your build is everything? If player skill is going to matter, how much of a % difference can we expect to see from a class played at a high level vs an average?
real sleet
There wont be any real numbers at the moment to say for sure. The one thing we can speculate is, that the action based combat skills / skill shots should be able to do more damage then the tap targetted ones. But this is just my interpretation based on the ideas Intrepid is communicating. THis means, that mages with the same equip but skill allocation as in 75% action / 25% tab should do more damage then 25% action / 75% tab. Again, that's my interpretation @split crown
onyx knoll
THey want player skill to be a good % of the dmg you can put out but it's too early to have real numbers since the combat is still very much being tweaked
split crown
that's ok, actually that's not what I'm asking, more I'm asking what the intent is
slow meadow
player skill will matter at least as much as gear, and with action skills needing to actually be landed, it will matter even more than tab only MMOs
split crown
alright good that's what I wanted to know
I was kinda worried when I watched the interviews, node/religion buffs, gear stats for specific environments/encounters and stuff made it seem like build might matter more than skill
split crown
that's ok as long as there's a skill gap between 2 people of the same class/build/ilvl
as long as skill matters a lot that's enough for me
lost sentinel
Oh, you mean PvE stuff.
split crown
yeah
slow meadow
build will be very important based on content as they dont want a one build fits all for raids, dungeons etc. even then the build is only meant to make you effective, your skill will still dictate performance. In PvP things aren't balanced 1v1 but around small groups so builds and counter builds will be very important but again skill will play an equal role there.
deft dragon
@real sleet it's these types of class-specific passives that I'm thinking about when I say I wonder if wearing your intended armor will give more benefit. So if a Cleric isn't wearing Chain armor, they don't get this armor passive bonus, thus may have lower stats, etc. and all the other armor passives are class-specific as well, so only mage gets that extra MP from cloth, tank gets extra HP from plate, etc. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Medium_armor_(passive)
split crown
I mostly only care about raiding ><. Actually that leads me to my last question. How many hours will players be expected to grind to become raid ready per week? Is "Raid logging" going to be a viable way of playing AoC?
reef osprey
@split crown AoC isn't exactly a raiding kind of game like WoW is?
You know that, right? Instanced raids will be far and few between
slow meadow
there's no real way to make a guess at that at this point. as I said content is going to change based on the state of the world so raid bosses may change enough to require you to make adjustments up to and including gear, so raid logging may be less prevalent. But its hard to know until we see how far reaching the changes actually are.
split crown
No i didn't know that, i mostly play FFXIV. I quit wow cause i couldn't deal with the hours required to be able to raid
real sleet
@deft dragon Yeah, but they get increased magic or physical resistance! It's a tradeoff, as in many gameplay mechanics. I find this refreshing to not absolutely have to stick to one trade.
slow meadow
and as wrath said 80% of the raids will be in the open world so just logging in to kill the boss isn't possible either. you will have to contend with respawn timers and other players to get your kills.
reef osprey
@split crown i figured that. That's why i felt like i should mention it
split crown
Well that's all my questions, thanks for answering them. It's a shame AOE won't have traditional raiding but it should still be pretty fun
reef osprey
feel free to come back any time if you have other questions
split crown
yep, see you guys later π
thorny crescent
is there a forum that shows when the game is being released? or a time frame of when things are happening? or is it in the discord somewhere?
potent thunderBOT
thorny crescent
TY
wintry seal
i have a question
wintry seal
is there an npc which will buff us by spending some ingame coins? like certain classes like bards and healers can buff
lineage 2 has that feature of giving full buffs for 1 hour for a cost of ingame coins
since steven had inspirtation from lineage was wondering
onyx knoll
I haven't heard anything about this, but you can buy foods in taverns that give you special buffs as long as you stay within a certain area around that tavern
severe coyote
there was like food buffs from eating at peoples freeholds etc
wintry seal
certain buffs is ok but was asking full buff up for grinding and stuff
onyx knoll
Not that I know of currently, but maybe Β―_(γ)_/Β―
wintry seal
really hate to make 1000 alts for buff class to buff main just for grinding is time consuming
deft dragon
buffs aren't like that here
Bard is the buff class and it's very active, more like the Aion Chanter. Check out the Bard Wiki page, one of the first things on it is Steven talking about how he doesn't like how L2 did buffs.
young elk
1 max level alt ~200 hrs @wintry seal
deft dragon
but you also can't have two accounts open on the same computer @wintry seal so if you were to have an alt playing with you, you'd need a second setup
buoyant sapphire
When are we expecting the cosmetic packs available in the AoC shop to change over? Nikua are neat, but they're not exactly my aesthetic.
spiral pine
thats only for your adventure class
onyx knoll
@buoyant sapphire The Boons of the Waveborn cosmetic addons will be available in the Ashes of Creation shop from August 5, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific until September 2, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific. Donβt forget that the Might of the Murk addons will be removed on August 5, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific when the new cosmetics swap over.
buoyant sapphire
Thank you very much.
onyx knoll
o7
deft dragon
@crystal beacon I'm not sure, the only referencs to bards playing instruments was a "it might be fun to have a feature in game where you can play music outside of combat" and referenced the system in ArcheAge. So not much info on whether it's a thing or not.
onyx knoll
I believe there was mention that some spells might make it look like you have an instrument, we know that there won't be a weapon that is an instrument tho
deft dragon
based on other quotes, though, bards main weapon would vary depending on what they choose just like other classes. He has a quote where he talks about a bard using swords just for one example.
onyx knoll
since every archetype can use every weapon, wouldn't really work
deft dragon
yea that's my guess, too if they do it at all
spiral pine
having one weapon tailored to one class doesnt fit the game
real sleet
Hey guys. Do any of you know, why many skills use 80% focus threshold to use? Why not 100%? Is there any benefit to stack focus, like statwise that I am unaware of?
Sure but it seems so counterintuitive to use 80% of something as threshold. For me that means that there will be other skills that require 100% focus to use.
Or that you get other benefits from focus besides the ultimate skills.
Well, we will see I guess. But there is nothing like it (better mitigation, damage boost yada yada) in the game right now, right?
They need to feed the hype!
onyx knoll
Sure there is a reason. Let's say the skill required 100% focus. Once you reached 100%, you might not be in a situation where it's convenient to use the skill right away, so you'd sit on the 100% and waste time. If it only uses 80%, then you can keep sitting on it and it'll keep going up so that when you eventually use the skill it'll already have some focus charged for he next use
keen glen
So i currently live in new jersey without a driver license and im waiting to get in contact with a representative to ask a question but the queue time for waiting is estimate to be an hour. So im here listening to the music they play while your waiting to connect while also reading manga and the song from Ashes' nodes videos started playing.... did new jersey rip off the games song or did ashes rip off new jersey's song
spiral pine
i disagree
reef osprey
what's the problem with more impactful ultimates requiring more focus than less impactful ultimates?
more impactful spells also eat more mana
spiral pine
feeding the hype can and will backfire
desert ivy
The hype will naturally be fed a bit once a1 nda is released
onyx knoll
@keen glen the music they're using for their videos isn't official soundtrack music, that music will be revealed sometime during beta
desert ivy
Will be killed for the idiots who take the alpha footage as if it's what the final release version will look like
young elk
gaem is ded
spiral pine
thats what happened with apoc
crystal beacon
Apoc was good imo
spiral pine
i didnt get to play it but it looked solid
desert ivy
Apoc was good for what it was. Problem is a ton of people started crying because they thought Intrepid had yoinked the kickstarter money and made a BR instead.
unreal zealot
apoc is coming back to help with further tests as well at some point after alpha one release
reef osprey
@desert ivy releasing a cash shop/season pass didn't exactly help the controversy
desert ivy
While the cash shop wasn't the greatest idea, you still obtain those cosmetics in the MMORPG when it releases and it's not exactly hard to make an in-game cash shop, probably took barely any time at all to implement
reef osprey
monetizing of a game mode, that was initially stated to only be an testing environment just projects the notion that its a "bait and switch" type project
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
onyx knoll
In APOC there was something akin to a battlepass called the adventurer path
you earned rewards by playing, and could pay for additional stuff
Those rewards will migrate over to the MMO once it releases
they're all cosmetic stuff obviously
crystal beacon
Why did people complain about this then?
onyx knoll
people like complaining about missing out on stuff Β―_(γ)_/Β―
reef osprey
@crystal beacon because always projecting that the game is funded to completion, but continuously finding more ways to monetize pre-launch (including the testing environment APOC) is sending mixed messages.
The mixed messages you usually want to avoid when bringing out your first product, as it reduces credibility
crystal beacon
Well, him having the money doesn't mean he wants to use it all
After all he is a company and not mother theresa
ashen vault
Does anyone know if there will be downtime between Alpha 1 and Alpha 2? Or will Alpha 2 start once Alpha 1 finishes?
onyx knoll
we don't know for sure
full badger
We have no information on that yet, but I doubt it will be an instant transition. If nothing else Intrepid will need time to write out and send the emails to all the Alpha 2 players and get information on who will be joining for the tests
onyx knoll
I personally think there will be a break in between the two, but we'll need to wait on official word from Intrepid to know for sure
desert ivy
Alpha 1 also isn't persistent, so alpha 1 itself will have a lot of downtime
onyx knoll
that is true ^
ashen vault
Thank you!
crystal beacon
Alpha 1 is testing of main functions of the game, followed by alpha 2 that will persist through till start of game
Depending on how alpha 1 goes it will be months till alpha 2
spiral pine
the alpha 2 will turn into a public test environment
crystal beacon
Ye. Always forget to mention that because it isnt relevant in my opinion after official launch
young elk
public test
onyx knoll
yes, a PTR that runs simultaneously with the game
It won't be public before launch tho
young elk
ruby swift
You would still need an account to play on it. Public test realm just means that testing for future content updates (which are meant to be small monthly and larger quarterly) would be put there first before release to live servers.
inland mauve
Hello, I have sent a ticket to the support on the 14th regarding someone stealing my account. I still have no answer other than the automatic acknowledgement of the ticket. I know I heard someone say there was an influx of tickets at this time but is this really the normal waiting time or did my ticket get lost in the ether?
ruby swift
It has only been 5 days. Last week the anecdotal time for a response was a little over a week.
desert ivy
You also sent it on a friday, customer support doesn't work weekends
inland mauve
Yes, I'm aware it's only work days but still. I will continue waiting then. Do you know if this is just initial waiting time or is it also between replies after the first?
ruby swift
No one knows besides them. And while you can occasionally get lucky and get a response from them here, every time they do that, someone else in line is getting bumped while they focus on you.
inland mauve
Well considering it's a stolen account situation...
desert ivy
You could try @'ing Toast here since it is more important than most tickets they get so I'm sure she'd be willing to bump you up a bit
ruby swift
For a game you can't play at the moment. They will get to you and get you sorted. Most people have had nothing but positive outcomes with CS here.
reef osprey
doesn't seem very urgent to me Talents.
Not like you can do anything with the account anyway at the moment
young elk
I dont really understand how can you lose your account
desert ivy
It's still a stolen account with maybe some of the dudes personal info attached to it. Most likely more important than most the idiotic tickets they're probably getting asking how to download the game now
inland mauve
I will wait then. But it's not a matter of what I can or cannot do with it, it's a matter of what the 3rd party can do with it while not in my possession.
tulip hatch
The wait time currently is about 2-3 weeks while they get through the queue
reef osprey
the personal info the guy, who has the account, already has
(Name, Surname, E-mail) are the only info currently attached to your account, as the payments are done through a 3rd party
ruby swift
There ya go. Nice and official red answer.
reef osprey
@inland mauve he could stock it up with embers and cosmetics, which would be pretty pog
i'd love for someone to "hack" my account and purchase me all the cosmetics 
inland mauve
Thank you Alluring. That at least gives me a timeline to look for.
That would be an outcome I could live with Warth.
tulip hatch
Youre welcome, hope it gets answered soon.
Remember to keep things to questions and answers folks
Discussion goes in #aoc-discussion & #general-discussion
icy whale
has alpha one gotten an approximate date for testing yet?
onyx knoll
Late fall this year, no specific date yet
icy whale
ty guys
rancid breach
is there a countdown for the next AoC update?
unreal zealot
next dev update will be near end of the month
rancid breach
idk, my brother told me that was a countdown for next community update or w/e on the game and he cant find it anymore so he asked me π
dev update is probably what he meant
onyx knoll
if there is no delay it should be on the 28th
rancid breach
okay thanks
sly monolith
hopefully they show of a new area
ashen vault
When I put in my ticket about a missing item from the marketplace, I received a response within 2 business days, and then a follow up response in 2 more business days to answer my follow up question.
ruby swift
Yep, sadly at the moment there is a backlog due to NDA processing and an influx of people using customer service to ask questions like "How do I node?" and since they don't auto respond it takes a while to sort to the real issues that need help.
livid portal
I just seen the thing about only a hand full of people able to get some items or titles.. like Flying mounts. Does that mean those items are theirs once the get it, and no one else has a chance to gain it? Or does it mean that those people have to continue to fight to keep it.. and if they don't, they can lose it and some one else fighting for the item can gain it now?
ruby swift
The mounts go away if they lose their status. Status is usually gained or lost monthly.
ashen vault
I have a question. Does anyone know if the info on Caravans in this video "Ashes of Creation MMORPG β Breaking Down the Caravan System!" by Ritchie SH accurate?
ruby swift
No idea, havent watched it. I would check the wiki. It is usually seen as the most up to date, though it does have some lag time during busy info drop periods.
livid portal
ok. So it's like some kind of... for a lack of better term... ladder.. Ones at the top gain it, but if they lose that top position, they lose that mount and some one else that gets top will gain it?
monthly...
ruby swift
No, there are elections for node mayors, and monthly pvp contesting of guild castles.
livid portal
ok... those that win the pvp, or get elected... if they lose that pvp top spot, or get elected out... they lose the items that was given to them while they had those spots?
Like flying mounts ?
ruby swift
Yes
livid portal
so, what I was saying.. cool. π
ruby swift
Once they are no longer in that spot, they lose access to that mount.
full badger
The information in his video is pretty much exactly ripped from the wiki, so right now it's accurate. Obviously if things change later on down the line it won't be. @ashen vault
ruby swift
It is not a ladder in that there is someone waiting on the rung below that gets next. It is a new process everytime.
full badger
If a player is a mayor/royalty with a tier 3 mount, that mount will be able to fly. If they lose the position of mayor or royalty while still owning the mount, it will then only be able to glide, rather than fly @livid portal
It helps if I actually mention the correct name in my responses to questions π
ashen vault
@slate island there are rare drop eggs you can get in the game as well that you can hatch a flying mount from...it can last a certain number of days based on how well you took care of it prior to hatching. That is a way you can get a flying mount without being metropolis mayor or a leader of a castle.
livid portal
ya, @full badger he didn't clarify if it was a permanent gain, or a gain based on current accomplishments. Also.. couldn't that be set up so eventually most people will get a gliding mount? Like... streamers working together?
oh ok.. So it's other ways.. to gain the items out there (This isn't just flying mounts.. just use that as an example)
ruby swift
Gliding mounts have no restriction on them other than gaining the mount
True flying does.
full badger
Right now we don't know how rare the tier 3 mounts will be, so it's hard to tell how common they will be on a server
crisp holly
@livid portal If everyone wanted a gliding mount they can get them(tier 2) but they won't be the best mounts in every situation. As there will be swimming, jumping, faster running, and maybe digging mounts, etc. That will work better in some places than others.
unreal zealot
it all depends on the world boss spawn rates and it's respective drop rate %
livid portal
I don't mind if it's Hard or rare to gain.. but if it's only 1 or a small hand full of people gain something and no one else will ever have a chance to gain it ever again... >_>
Again, it's not just about mounts.. that video also talked about titles and how some titles help with stats or something. I'm just using flying mounts as an example.
unreal zealot
If the eggs are tradeable i expect people will more likely sell them for guild funds and such unless it has pvp castle siege abilities even then selling it to the attacking guild is a possibiity
steady ocean
If they want it again they can just try to become mayor again
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
unreal zealot
i think i heard that titles will be kind of temporary like the tier 3 mounts but im not 100% sure on that
livid portal
I love the idea of very hard to gain items or titles or what ever else the game gives (Weapons, mounts types, Armor, something else) It makes the low level look at it like "Wow, I want that!" But if they come to find out, they will never be able to gain that item.. kind of puts a damper on them trying to play the game.. But if it's like crazy hard.. then that player has something to work towards.. That's all I'm asking. And I think you guys answered it.. Thank you π
pure walrus
Hey all, have a question about getting XP in the game. Can your character gain XP by just gather/crafting and not just through PVP/PVE content?
ruby swift
The artisan and adventuring classes have separate progression paths. Clarified in last livestream.
lyric ether
Will there be a strong element of crowd control/add management for PvE content, or are you going for the more recent trend of AoE being the primary means to defeat packs?
lean burrow
i do miss CC
ruby swift
There are hard and soft CC abilities. There is also diminishing returns.
onyx knoll
It's a bit early to tell, we've only seen up to lvl 10-15 content, so I feel like that's not a very good representation of what higher level content might require. We know there are CC skills, but the combat is still very much being worked on and we don't know if any of the secondary augments will make them into long CC like a sap or frost trap in WoW
rough sage
i hope there is no CC over 5 sekends for PVP even sheep/sap/sleeps.
its just crap if you go into a 2v2 and boom your mate is sleeping for 30 sekends while you get killed.
in open beta we may see more skills if there is a window where you can look whitch skills you may get at lvl xy???
alpha 1
sorry alpha 1 was meant 1^^
trim kiln
I have some questions on the archtypes, we know that the primeary one is base. But what about the second? Are you able to change it with some effort?
And does the same applies to skill points? Are you able to change it around to try some things out? Or are you lock to it?
rough sage
they said you can change your 2nd class
and skillpoints will be locked i guess so you need to pay soem gold to change them.
dont think steven would be a fan of switching skills 24/7 for no punishment
trim kiln
Thats fair enough. Thanks
wind osprey
I have a question if players can turn their houses into shops, then which will be more relevant, the local shops or the global market(and is there a global market)?
onyx knoll
Also there is no global market π
You can see all the potential ways to trade here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Economy
crystal beacon
isnt there a global minimum regulation or something like that
might have misunderstood
onyx knoll
Erm... I haven't heard anything about something like that, but leme check
crystal beacon
regarding material worth etc
chilly hedge
A regulation for what? Prices?
crystal beacon
cuz steven wants foreign materials to a region being worth more
chilly hedge
Why would there be a min prize?
not all regions will have all resources, so if caravans are needss to get iron, iron will be worth more in that region
onyx knoll
I think you might be thinking of certificates
crystal beacon
well, player driven economy might regulate itself but there could be the possibility that foreign materials are shipped on mass and they are not worth more then
onyx knoll
Certificates are items that drop from creatures you kill, and the further away you go to sell those then where you obtained it, the more gold you'll make from selling it
chilly hedge
That would be working as intended I'd say
onyx knoll
but you don't trade those to players
onyx knoll
Steven even said that scamming people would be a legit part of the game π (As long as it's done without cheats obviously)
Right, you can't get scammed out of materials when you're asking a crafter to make something for you, but you could get scammed by being sold something for 3 times its value because you didn't research its worth
proven root
you can't get scammed out of materials when you're asking a crafter to make something for you,
@onyx knoll they have a system to ensure that?
unreal zealot
i think its a system like the player shop where you can ask them to make somthing through a similar interface where you provide the mats and what ever their fee is i thin k steven mentioned it once somewhere
proven root
that'd be really nice. no easy running away with mats or pay in advance bullshit and any trust issues that come with that lol
Awesome
unreal zealot
some people will probably try to ask for mats through a trade to newer players and such so i hope it becomes an important tutorial tool tip when players start to give them the info they need when they become a civilian of a node
primal solstice
Whats is the pet roll in aoc?
ruby swift
I asked about this when it came up the other day and people were convinced that scamming and exploiting players a la EVE would be permitted and that Intrepid would turn blind eye. Many apparently are confused by his statements about spying and want to twist words to fit their narrative. This is already covered under the Terms you agree to by playing the game, and will be further delineated through "community guidelines" closer to launch. https://ashesofcreation.com/terms
winter parrot
@ Jahlon, I remember hearing that two Eco Metro nodes could link marketplaces (in pairs) but you would physically have to travel to the other auction house, was I mistaken?
ruby swift
Purchase remotely, pick up locally
onyx knoll
@primal solstice pet roll? do you mean pet role?
primal solstice
Yes sry
winter parrot
Correct, thanks Unknown
onyx knoll
there are two type of pets, combat pets and companion pets. Companion pets are just critters that follow you around and are for fun visual things. Combat pet can be used by any class, they take a part of your stats and give you some versatility/skills
primal solstice
U can own both?
ruby swift
Yes
onyx knoll
as far as i know, yes
primal solstice
Nice thx
ruby swift
Each player has two "pet" slots. One cosmetic and one combat. Summoners have a further slot.
cobalt shale
When you lose a player-driven caravan, do you lose 100% of your resources, or just some percentage that will be tuned later?
unreal zealot
im not 100% sure but i think a large % is lost the other % is dropped
cobalt shale
@simple ether They have to take it back to the node from which the caravan originated? That seems strange. Thanks for the info.
Ohhhh. I see.
So those 8000 logs you get when you turn them in, do they go into your bags? If you are not from that city, how do you receive them?
slow meadow
they would be in a warehouse. your inventory isnt that large
lapis storm
Can anyone expand on the combat system? I understand it will be a hybrid abc/tab-target system, but how does that work? Are skills one or the other, can you choose, and are there any benefits for choosing one?
cobalt shale
Ahhh, so each player has available storage in every city, but they can't move any decent amount of the resource without a caravan.
unreal zealot
im assuming those 8000 tickets will be divided up among the attackers of the caravan or collected the most that dropped
so i doubt you will have the full 8000 unless you managed to solo it
lapis storm
Oh. I haven't seen this page yet, thanks!
crystal beacon
Hello, are the system requirements for Ashes of Creation already fully known, or is too early to announce that due to the development stage it is in?
unreal zealot
we know about some from passing comments/streams or leaks from Steven but a lot of it hasn't been said about or shown as alot of it is still in development you best bet is to look at the https://ashesofcreation.wiki/ or https://ashes101.com/
ashes 101 gives easier to digest explanations in my opinion with all the videos @simple ether does as well
silk pendant
If i bought the voyager package can i play now?
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon Thank you
fleet rock
call me a idiot but how do you compare graphics cards on first glance?
silk pendant
k ty
junior sky
@fleet rock it's not just the vram. You gotta know the model, usually new = better but if you want to be sure you need to compare benchmarks
fleet rock
yeye
unreal zealot
if you want a good gpu to last you the next 3 or 4 years best bet is to wait for the rtx 3000 to come out if you have enough get one of them or buy the cheaper rtx 2070 supers when their price drops
fleet rock
alright ty
crystal beacon
i can buy a used rtx 2080 ti in my country
for like, 700-900 euro
you may find comparable deals
near horizon
queen canopy
Heey guys! Got a little question, used a google translate for this, sorry for mistakes π
In the real world, inflation (currency depreciation) is the main reason a country stops issuing money endlessly to meet its endlessly rising costs.
But in the world of Ashes of Creation, the currency is the same and has the same value in all regions and areas of the world. Why don't the mayors of the nodes release it out of control to increase their own capital? What will be the deterrent in a world where no one competes with anyone and where free trade reigns, that is, access to any possible resources is possible for everyone and is limited only by the size of the wallet?
Or maybe I'm getting too into the little things and it will just be another gold that is taken out of nowhere and disappears into nowhere?
Another question, the main problem of money is its ability to accumulate, that is, one way or another at a certain point in time the player will become very, very rich. That will entail a loss of interest in the game, since any thing, even the rarest, he can simply buy at the auction. How will this problem be solved?
onyx knoll
Sorry, I'm not very good at economy so I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say, but mayors can't generate gold out of nothing. They tax players for their gold, and then use that gold for improving their towns. They cannot pull that gold out of the node coffers.
There will be many ways in which players will need to spend gold so that it will be difficult for them to just sit on it. All gear is temporary and degrades over time, and requires you to spend gold and materials to fix it, for example.
Very rich players might also decide to buy their way into the mayor seat of an economic node, losing a big chunk of their assets
novel ice
I wonder if the gear degrades to zero if it disappears, or if you can still repair it
slow meadow
@queen canopy this is a pretty massive question that is probably too much for this channel, but the short answer is the game has numerous gold sinks through through crafting, durability, node upkeep and many others. The player driven economy plus gold sinks (which the devs can adjust to combat inflation) will keep the economy healthy.
novel ice
I'd imagine they'll adjust gold rewards if the game is too punishing on gold sinks and repair costs
slow meadow
gear can be repaired if it reaches zero durability but it will require a portion of the original mats to do so.
novel ice
Thats fine. A bit like eso where the amor depreciates and loses power until repaired
queen canopy
@slow meadow So, it will be such a small USSR, where developers are the ruling party that sets prices for basic things in order to maintain demand for goods and the economy?
slow meadow
@queen canopy not exactly the devs themselves, the economy has valves built in to it that will auto react to these sorts of things. Its their "World Manager". So as example if supplies of iron are getting extremely high, the respawn timer might get longer. To much gold being generated by certificates from mobs? Lower drop rate or increase upkeep costs. The world sort of regulates itself based on how they have talked about the world manager so far.
the devs could step in if needed because things were really getting out of hand, there are so many upkeeps and gold sinks I think it will be pretty easy to maintain a reasonably healthy economy
queen canopy
@slow meadow Sounds very interesting
But I had a paradox, the mayor takes his money from the taxes of the residents of the node, but the residents of the node themselves receive money from the sale of resources in the nodes. And the question arises, where does the money come from, Lebowski? π
slow meadow
From the NPCs in the world. If you kill a wolf and get a wolf pelt and sell it to an NPC that is where money comes from.
onyx knoll
lol, the money will initially come from certificates, which are items dropped by creatures you kill that you can sell for gold. The further you travel away from the area you killed the monster at, the more money you can make.
queen canopy
NPCs are responsible for setting a lot of the prices in a node
@simple ether So it's not really PLAYER driven economy
desert ivy
NPCs set base item prices
Mayors set the taxes for those items
novel ice
anyone know a quick workaround to why when I click "login" on the AoC forums it pops up blank?
queen canopy
@simple ether Got it, thanks for the detailed answer =)
Thought the economic system would be a little more complicated:
With different currencies, embargo between nodes on the trade of certain resources, economic wars.
I would like the players (mayors / kings) to concentrate all the power of the economy, so that they, physically, issue a currency that has a value in relation to other currencies of other states. So that their decisions to declare war on another country or start building a fleet would have a real impact on the economy and could lead to real CONSEQUENCES. Whatever their decisions to issue more money or to impose more taxes or duties would have an IMPACT. Because now everyone is ruled by NPCs, which are essentially just bottomless bags of money, the amount and volume of which is regulated by some parameters, but is still infinite. Although, in truth, this is most likely too complex a system to implement.
But what already exists and is planned is much better than those MMORGPs that are on the market.
cobalt shale
Is there a mechanic where players can have bad factions with nodes that will interfere with selling certs dropped during a caravan raid back at the originating city?
Also, thank you all you answers of questions for your time and effort here.
*answerers
fair yew
There is reputation they have talked about. Dont know if it will be a system like wow where if you are disliked or hated you would get attacked. But they will interact with you differently
novel ice
I figured out the AoC forum issue. It doesn't like Microsoft Edge for some reason, but Google chrome fixed it
fringe radish
Microsoft Edge is never a good idea TBH π¬
thick lagoon
Is it possible to change your account name?
earnest knoll
Anyone know roughly when the next dev stream will be? They do them monthly right?
slow meadow
end of the month or early the following each time.
earnest knoll
Awesome ty
nocturne tide
Just wondering are there any systems in place to stop large guilds monopolising the game (open world bosses and dungeons and farming spots) so that everyone can experience everything?
rare hedge
just make a guild of ur own and take em out ez
nocturne tide
my guild of my 10 idiotic friends vs like 100 people with coordination
thats gonna be a very fair fight haha
half apex
Basically playing this game alone will be really hard and you can't try out different aspects of the game. So far the only limit on guilds and alliances are:
every guild has guild progress system. If the guild want to reach the max number (300), it's focusing on raising number, not choising other progress options.
Every guild has a limit, how much allies can there be. The limit is 4-5.
These are the only know thing about your question.
nocturne tide
Right ok then
Thanks
But then also theoretically if you had 5 subguilds and you allianced witha ll of them you could have ~10% of the server in your guild?
stoic charm
Yes 1500 people can rick roll a server if they wanted to. But that is when you just join them instead of fighting it.
nocturne tide
Hmm that would kind of ruin the experience a little bit
Do you think anything will be implemented to stop that or not really?
half apex
Ohh on other thing is. The planed active population/servers is planned around 8-10k. With registered account limit 50k. So if you have 2k ppl on server it will be boring fast as there is noone to fight
reef dagger
@nocturne tide I wouldnβt worry about it too much the map is massive for one and each metropolis will encompass 1/5 of the map in its zone of influence they would have to spread themselves fairly thin to cover all 5 metros and node allegiance overrides guild allegiance
dim shuttle
@nocturne tide One thing to clarify about the choices for leveling a guild. There will be benefits to having a small guild. If you choose to put points into guild buffs/traits instead of increasing the member cap, that could in theory balance your smaller guild against a larger guild. We don't have any idea what the buffs/traits will be though, so this is very much up in the air.
reef dagger
@nocturne tide also if they went full buffs and alliance route there can only be 4 guilds in an alliance (system wise) so theyβd have an alliance size of maybe 200ish by current full buffed guild size estimates
half apex
Yes if the look at it like 10k ppl for 118 nodes(103+15) it's not much ppl/node on average
nocturne tide
Right ok then
Idk why but i just assumed that the metropolis' would attract more people then the other nodes
and also like
I dont know specific numbers
but say theres 10 open world dungeons
wouldnt that be easy for one guild to monopolise a single dungeon?
also im relatively new to mmos so if im asking stupid questions just let me know
honest solstice
10k people over 118 nodes dont nodes get locked out if another node next to it gets leveled