2 alpha and 2 beta?
#questions
rare tendon
are the 103 + 15 castle nodes per server?
damn
do players get to pick their nodes?
o man
crystal beacon
When you say longer, you mean like 2-3 months?
slow meadow
more like when they feel they have the game in a state they are comfortable with. they aren't really doing timelines
rare tendon
^ does that mean streamers could just get their viewers to join their node and develop it faster?
rare tendon
lol it’s oddly specific but yk?
slow meadow
there is gating on the nodes to help combat having too many players trying to pump up one node
rare tendon
ah that’s cool
crystal beacon
Imagine 20k ppl from sumit trying to get into his node
half apex
With 20k ppl you own a server basically. As it's planned to have 8-10k online at a time with a 50k limit. As far as i know
slow meadow
@simple ether it took me a minute to find it, but they have mentioned population based scaling for both NPC item prices as well as within the node system. they said they can scale the XP needed to level a node and the attrition that delevels the a node based on activity.
correct but the comment is actually that it scales on population and activity so if there is an influx of mining activity in the area it can normalize it. They want the time it takes to get from each stage to take a certain amount of time even outside of the start so if its supposed to take 6 weeks to go from city to metro they aren't going to allow you to power it out in a week by bringing in 6x the expected number of players.
crystal beacon
so it doesnt matter how many people farm on a node?
or do you need a min amount of people to reach it at fastest time
half apex
There is a ratio to it based on player number. More ppl more required xp.
slow meadow
I think the intention is simply to prevent the extremes from being an issue. they may be fine with city to metro taking anywhere from 4 - 8 weeks, with an average of around 6, but want to protect against powering it out unreasonably fast. obviously this is my interpretation of the comment but it makes sense based on their other zerg protection comments.
half apex
Although the materials for buildings etc doesn't change
novel ice
Can we reserve names now or later if we have the package level to do so
full badger
name reservation hasn't opened up yet
rare tendon
is there a picture of the map?
full badger
@rare tendon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/World_map
rare tendon
that’s huge lmao
spare garnet
What are your thoughts on zone-flation? I am an Everquest lover (have my own classic server community) and the worst part is coming back to the game years later and everyone gone from your favorite leveling zones (like unrest, if you are familiar). I heard on your asmongold interview that you want to try to keep old zones relevant by unlocking new content in them but not removing old, are you going to keep new zones to a minimum (especially not making them better places to go) to keep old zones relevant?
rare tendon
would players have to develop technology or something like that to be able to build a boat to travel to another region?
full badger
@rare tendon ship building is an option, but we have very few details on it yet
@spare garnet the way the node system is designed should (in theory) prevent zones from becoming redundant over time. Of course this is something to be tested
rare tendon
I saw something in a video that said nodes can be restarted by something? how does that work
grizzled hatch
Node sieging and destruction
full badger
So, nodes are built up by player activity and contributions. Nodes also have upkeep requirements to keep players investing in their node. If the upkeep isn't met, the node resets back to level 0
grizzled hatch
I was not aware of the upkeep, only of the sieging
rare tendon
that’s stressful 
grizzled hatch
interesting
full badger
crystal beacon
Most nodes with activity wont suffer atrophy (Not keeping up with the upkeep).
spare garnet
Most nodes with activity wont suffer atrophy (Not keeping up with the upkeep).
@crystal beacon It should be tuned by testing to make sure that is the case.
So to prevent top guilds from monopolizing spawns, fast travel will be significantly limited (I think the "family" thing could be rigged/structured by guilds to allow a few people to fast travel everyone) is there any other ways this will be countered?
dark jungle
@spare garnet yes, steven is aware of the possible problems with the family summon system, he posted on it here https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/i9k5rp/family_fast_travel_is_an_awful_idea_in_its/g1hru73/
spare garnet
I trust him, but this sort of thinking (see pic) is scary because one mmo I played used this exact same philosophy to put "experience potions" so people with less time could catch up, turned out everyone had to use them to stay relevant!
dark jungle
Intrepid have already said no to XP potions or any kind or p2w or pay to convenience
spare garnet
Ok cool but just saying, this type of thinking leads to catch-up mechanics that turn out bad. Not many games before the mmo I was referencing had xp pots so the idea sounded great at the time.
unreal zealot
the best way i ever see bonus xp would be an event of some kind say maybe next expansion comes out 4 years from now and they market it really well and pair it with a week or two of bonus xp before lauch of said expansion, just my opinion but i doubt it would happen just by looking at their direction of the game
spare garnet
I think druid and wizard teleportation from Classic Everquest should be looked at as an alternative to the Family teleport, that system was quite nice.
Basically you can't port people to you, you can port them WITH you to only certain locations in the world.
torn fiber
A Mentor System could be a good catch up mechanic
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/42812/dev-discussion-7-toxicity/p6
I explained it in full pretty much at the bottom on that page.
hollow elm
node Citizenship cap? or can everyone on the server be a citizen to the same node as everyone?
solf cap on apartment pricing? so more people drives the cost?
but theoretically it is possible to have all of the server citizens of one node?
spare garnet
be like manhattan prices lol
I think that is a good relief valve to be possible if server pop dwindles for whatever reason. But if everything is fine ppl will be priced out and will make sense to go elsewhere I assume
grizzled latch
If you lose your citizenship due to siege do you still have to wait two weeks to get citizenship elsewhere?
spring dagger
in the underrealm is it only people of royal status who get burrowing mounts?
right thats good to know
grizzled latch
Where is burrowing mounts mentioned?
spring dagger
the underrealm page on the wiki should help with that
If there's insufficient room for Dragons, another mount type may be utilized.[7]
Burrowing mounts are being considered as an alternative to flying mounts in the Underrealm.[8]
grizzled latch
Thanks
spring dagger
also are there more known professions in the processing tree other than smelting and animal husbandry?
right some examples of professions that might be there then?
or a place i could find them
thanks
also will making mount armour be part of the blacksmithing profession
and if not what will that profession be used for as armour and weapon smithing are separate professions
past harbor
Is there any major negative to buying a pack now if I'm an EU player? I assume there will be a way to transfer it over when they sort it out for the EU packs
spare garnet
which is the base class, top or left side?
spring dagger
left
the secondary class provides augmentations of your main class
your main class is the only thing which actually provides you with skills
spring dagger
yep
so mage has fire frost lightning and teleportation
might be changed before launch though
spring dagger
so if a fighter augmented his charge skill with frost it might do more damage and apply a slow effect, whereas if he applied it with teleport it would instantly go to the target and deal damage
yeah im not sure of augmentations outside of mage
sharp robin
Rogue stealth and you wouldn’t be seen while charging
sharp robin
I know of some of rogue and clerics
heavy cradle
Ranger you would charge from a distance? 
sharp robin
Ranger, you put yourself on a bow and fire yourself at the enemy
heavy cradle
Your arrow moves faster
spare garnet
anyone have any idea of bard augments? Perhaps skills add AoE or something?
sharp robin
Don’t know sadly
spring dagger
does anyone know some other class augmentations or the type of augmentation you get from social organisations, guilds or religions
damn
cerulean atlas
can anyone tell me what the name of the Q&A vid with Steven is. The one about cosmetics and not being able to tell what gear they had
A link would be cool too
it was fairly recent
spring dagger
can't remember sorry
dont think so
A player can only claim citizenship to one node at a time.[5]
you dont need to be a citizen of a node to participate in some activities
however you wont get the benefits of citizenship
kinda but you dont lose everything
like you still have money and equipment but not your houses
and if it's a scientific node it may take a while to build your campaign again
it is somewhat
it does take 2 weeks to swap citizenship though
void harness
Is alpha 2 next month?
slow meadow
alpha 1 this fall no dates beyond that
surreal elk
@crystal beacon 2 week cooldown on node citizenship. You lose the special privileges when you give up the citizenship.
spring dagger
does anyone understand how mount barding works?
slow meadow
there isn't much to understand at this point. there will be barding made of multiple components each that can effect the stats of the mount (hp, speed etc) but that's about all that's known for sure at this point
unkempt depot
Will weapon master be able to master all weapons or only one?
slow meadow
weapon master is just the name of the class and doesn't effect what can be used. any class can use any weapon.
unkempt depot
wow cool
spring dagger
i meant like will blacksmiths be the profession that makes them
or will armour smiths
slow meadow
we just don't know that yet. either one could make sense depending on where they want to draw the line for interconnecting the systems and making sure each profession has demand.
spring dagger
yeah i dont really understand what the blacksmithing profession is really for
as there is already an armour and weapons smithing profession in the same tree
slow meadow
barding is technically listed as armor so that would be what I would assume until its stated otherwise though. think of blacksmithing for things like ship and caravan parts (reinforcements, wheels, etc) there is a lot of things outside of weapons and armor that will need to be consumed.
spring dagger
right so its more of a support for other areas in a way
slow meadow
you can think of it that way, but much like armor for a person, the stats of your caravans and ships will be dependent on the parts they are made of, so in a way its like armor or weapons for those things. Keep in mind some of this is just my interpretation since we don't have the actual systems explained yet. But they have talked about both caravans and ships having crafted parts of various levels of quality to help keep them safe.
spring dagger
right so you might supply parts for shipbuilders or siege engineers and i assume you might be able to customise your caravan so that it is faster but weaker or something along those lines
slow meadow
something like that with quality coming into play with regards to bonuses and penalties. I think those are fairly safe assumptions based on how they have talked so far.
spring dagger
thats helpful thanks
potent blade
When creating a character, is there information on the professions taking away from your pve/pvp potential?
In some games if you want to be a master blacksmith, then you gotta kiss goodbye putting points into anything combat related
slow meadow
separate systems. there are multiple progression paths in ashes that are horizontal progressions that do not take away from each other.
potent blade
Thank you, that helps me take off my mind needed 2 characters to play.
vernal swallow
When creating a character, is there information on the professions taking away from your pve/pvp potential?
In some games if you want to be a master blacksmith, then you gotta kiss goodbye putting points into anything combat related
@potent blade when it comes to Skilling, your character can have skill mastery of only one skill. The rest of the skills will be capped at a level lower than the max level
potent blade
Perfect. I had a char for ESO who had all the crafting traits and a bunch of profession based skills and trees but id only login to do crafting then switch to my regular content toon
little dust
@potent blade The basic version: You have three artisan paths which are Gathering, Processing, and Crafting. You have a bunch of different professions under each of those paths. You can become a Master of one of the three main paths, but not the other two. It's not fully decided yet on how many of the professions you can master underneath each main path, but it is that you cannot be a master of a profession under a path without first being a master of that path. How that works, not quite sure yet and they are still testing. However, what you do in the Artisan professions has nothing to do with your combat professions. You can go Cleric/Cleric and become a High Priest healer going on dragon hunts by day, and then go fishing at night without worry.
crystal beacon
Hi, I just wanted to know if when you buy one of the packs, can you upgrade to a higher pack afterwards? I would like to get a high price one, but I am not sure If I will have that amount in money in Canadian $($250=$330), when I see a Pack, That I just have to have, I would hazard a guess that, yes you can, but I wanted to make sure first. Thank you very much in Advance.
slow meadow
yes you will be able to upgrade your package after your initial purchase.
crystal beacon
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my Question. ❤️
unkempt depot
What will make me the richest and most powerful bard in the game? Will there be electric guitars that use lightning magic to function?
Or a piano you can wheel around with you in the dungeon
sterile gulch
piano as a flavor mount sounds amazing
moves at regular walking speed with a person helping drag it and you along the terrain
late pewter
Keytar!
buoyant sapphire
I know the answer is likely "no" or "to be decided", and it's kind of a dumb question, but do we know how large the creatures summoned by a Summoner are going to be? Like, human sized? Bigger? Smaller? With the prospect of body blocking and using terrain features as a part of keeping your flanks covered in pvp, this is actually a pretty important question despite its seeming inanity.
I can easily see a brood warden picking up the largest summon it can to block hallways, gates, or other such things to be more efficient as a blocker than, say, a human tank.
half shell
is Ashes of Creation Apocalypse going to be back at all and would it be a good way to understand the MMO's pvp?
ty
full badger
@buoyant sapphire https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Archetypes#Summoner This is all the information we have right now on the summoner and the summoned entities
vernal swallow
Will they lift NDA for alpha 1? Or we should wait till the beta releases?
slow meadow
the alpha 1 this fall will not have an NDA and those of us with access will be streaming it 🙂
full badger
@slow meadow @vernal swallow This has been updated by Steven
vernal swallow
Oh nice
slow meadow
@full badger is that because he said that the LoM and other testing might not have the NDA and the full alpha 1 still doesn't have it, or was he meaning that they want to make sure alpha 1 servers were stable before lifting it? did he clarify?
full badger
That's the only quote we have on the matter, sorry
Maybe @simple ether has more info
slow meadow
yeah would be good to know if he just meant no early NDA lift on the QA testing or if they were actually going to extend it into Alpha 1, which feels like it should be a bigger announcement if that's the case
yeah that was what I was assuming but that quote that wandering linked is another vague steven quote, since alpha 1 testing begins in fall and the quote overlaps that.
rare tendon
how many classes are there?
past pewter
is it okay to mix gfuel into a gatorade?
real sleet
@rare tendon there are going to be 8 basic archetypes which you can combine as secondaries into 64 potential classes.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
rare tendon
ty
vernal swallow
How does a node get it's type assigned to it? Is there a community driven mechanism for it?
past pewter
i think it's already pre-determined
crystal beacon
@past pewter asking the real questions
real sleet
@buoyant sapphire you probably already found out, but summoners are at least able to summon siege creatures with 8 together. These should be quite big....
buoyant sapphire
I'm more asking about personal summons; I know siege weapons, biological or not, tend to be gate-crushingly huge
winter parrot
Will we be told which zoi before placing a freehold
rare tendon
for someone who’s fairly new to mmorpgs how easy would the controls for this game be to learn?
sacred arrow
Is there going to be an option to buy game time (like WoW for example) rather than the subscription fee?
vernal swallow
i think it's already pre-determined
@past pewter I don't think so. There's someway to assign the type is what I think.
sacred arrow
It is voted I believe
@past pewter I don't think so. There's someway to assign the type is what I think.
@vernal swallow
vernal swallow
How does a node get it's type assigned to it? Is there a community driven mechanism for it?
@vernal swallow I think the mayor of a stage 3 node must assign the type of the node before proceeding further. Devs can correct me if I'm wrong...
It is voted I believe
@vernal swallow
@sacred arrow another option, yes.
vernal swallow
steven already confirmed in an ama that it's pre-determined
@past pewter oh okay. I didn't know. Thanks for clarifying.
past pewter
if i'm wrong let me know
faint plover
Does Intrepid Studio plan to work on AOC Apo again after A1?
Please tell me that's not true
vernal swallow
Apoc?
faint plover
ye
vernal swallow
They shouldn't
wind canyon
question if anyone knows...i bought a pledge package like 3 years ago. since then the site changed where I purchased it and I no longer can even see what came with my package. is there somewhere I can view what I actually purchased because I forgot the details.
vernal swallow
Official site is it?
wind canyon
the official site changed. all i see on the new official site is that i spent 80 dollars on something and the date. there is no detail of what the package contains.
vernal swallow
Try the migration option first. Did you try it?
real sleet
@faint plover they plan to use APOC for testing again. I believe castle sieges will be the next on the list after A1
vernal swallow
@faint plover they plan to use APOC for testing again. I believe castle sieges will be the next on the list after A1
@real sleet it's cool if it's just for testing
wind canyon
@vernal swallow i already did that. i'm logged in and i see my purchase on the site. it just has no details about the package and it's been so long i forgot.
this is all it says
vernal swallow
@vernal swallow i already did that. i'm logged in and i see my purchase on the site. it just has no details about the package and it's been so long i forgot.
@wind canyon That's a serious issue bruv, $80 is no joke. Mods or Admins could help you out with it. Just ping them once maybe?
astral wave
I get the exactly same list for myself. If you switch to store side it shows only stuff that you haven't purchased yet but only if it's something you could buy right now. Anyhow that $80 matches pioneer package if you were original KS or summer backer. @wind canyon
wind canyon
@kind vapor just helped me. if you click on inventory it lists the items. @astral wave
astral wave
oh okay
silent bluff
hi, the announcement that was announced today, about the golden feather stream, the date set was 2 days ago ? does anyone know where i can find it?
hollow gorge
you should be able to find it as a vod
hollow gorge
if you click their twitch, go to vidoes, you should be able to find one hopefully
they might not save all their vods though
silent bluff
found it, thank you! 🙂
hollow gorge
faint plover
@faint plover they plan to use APOC for testing again. I believe castle sieges will be the next on the list after A1
@real sleet But I hope it's really just testing. I would not like the MMORPG project to be extended due to the apoco.
Do you think that testing will take more than a month?
candid lava
Do races get biome buffs/debuffs? like Vaelune excel in desert whereas Nikua would struggle there.
ruby swift
@faint plover @real sleet Testing is fluid and changes to the schedule on it happen. APOC for the moment is effectively dead. This quote should help.
@wind canyon On the main page look to the right side for the show inventory tab. That is where your package details are kept. If you have just migrated from the old system it can take 24-48 hours before your items may migrate into inventory. Since it is the weekend, customer service is off and there is a backlog of tickets atm due to getting the NDAs out to those that need them for testing that have had issues. If you don't see your stuff in your account after the weekend, file a ticket then prepare to wait awhile. They will sort you out eventually.
@sacred arrow There are no plans for like an EVE Plex or WoW token. The way you can offset your subscription cost is by having 7 active, paying referrals. See here. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program
sacred arrow
How do I get a referral code?
ruby swift
Log into your main account and click on "referral" your code link is listed there. Copy/Paste to those you want to give it to.
sacred arrow
Thanks
ruby swift
@vernal swallow @past pewter Nodes types are pre-determined and set from level 0. They do not change even if the node is reset to 0. They are the same for location on all servers. Mayors may have an option to change the name of the node from an approved list. This was mentioned as a possibility and has not been seen in testing yet.
<speculation> The node placement is set by Intrepid because of the complexity of the node system and how it interacts through the various subsystems like the vassal nodes to unlock content. A scientific node may be better suited to a location where there is an ancient library poi located nearby, a military node may be more suited to a place where terrain creates a natural choke point. <speculation over>
real sleet
Speculation approved.
ruby swift
@rare tendon There is always a learning curve with any new game. But mmos are generally slower paced and "easier"
@winter parrot We don't know how that is determined yet. Needs to be clarified in the case of overlapping ZOI.
Think I have gotten the questions that were asked since the NA people went to bed, if I missed something mixed in there ask again.
real sleet
Problem is: east coast is starting its day already 😉
lean prawn
About augments:
For example I have Fighter and augment spec into Cleric, there are mentioned life (healing) augments and death (damage) augments.
Q: Do I choose augments for entire class, or I can augment some spells for healing and some spells for damage?
ruby swift
Best to wait until later about secondary class and augment speculation. We have very little info on how it will exactly work and anyone who answers you besides an actual developer is guessing.
half apex
@lean prawn So far, based on the info we got you choose augment on each of your spells seperatly.
sacred arrow
Are there going to be like 4 'augment schools' or is each secondary class going to have different ones?
half apex
Each class will offer 4 different augment types as secondary classes.
These schools are not the same. For example mage can give you: fire, lightning, frost or teleport type, while cleric life or death (2 known so far out of 4 for cleric)
austere swan
Is Ashes of Creation going to have more than 1 cast bar?
full badger
@austere swan They have talked about it but I think they are still deciding how many skills we will be able to use at one time
austere swan
ah thanks
half apex
So far it' said you'll have space for 30>= skills etc on bars.
west turtle
If u have a bank account in any node and the node gets destroyed or starts all over - does your stuff get deleted?
full badger
@west turtle
half apex
Idk the answer but my guess is yes, as the bank is a similar system then the storage on a node. And the answer is yes for the storage
steep prairie
Hey guys I have one question about alpha 1 and alpha 2 servers . Is there any asia server for the tester?
When alpha 1&2 release
lean prawn
Question about citizenship.
There is said on ashes101 that for having a citizenship you need a property first.
With properties there are mentioned in-node housings and Instanced apartments, but I didn't see freeholds mentioned in relation for citizenship.
Q1: Does having a freehold allow you to be citizen of said node?
Q2: Does having properties in different nodes allow you to have multiple citizenships or you can only be citizen of 1 node at the time?
Q3: If I have properties in 2 different nodes, can I give up my citizenship in one node and acquire it in the other node prior / during the siege declaration time?
real sleet
@lean prawn
Q1: Interesting question, I dont think that has been answered profitiently. I lean towards no, because the freehold ist basically your own ZOI so you technically are no citizen of the node itself, thus it does not fulfil the requirement of player housing in the node itself.
Q2: you can only have 1 citizenship at a time, but your other equities stay yours.
Q3: you can assume a new citizenship two weeks after you gave up the original one. If you can drop your citizenship while the siege is declared, I dont know. The wiki states that 'most services are stopped' but no specifics.
Why would you want to drop your citizenship while a siege is declared?
full badger
@steep prairie There will only be NA and EU servers during testing. SEA and OCE servers are planned for launch
steep prairie
@full badger thank you for the answer.. I have one more question. Can the asia players play on NA or EU servers for testing? using VPN etc..
full badger
There won't be any region or IP locking on the servers
So as long as you don't mind the high ping, you'll be fine
lean prawn
@real sleet About dropping citizenship before siege - I think I got confused with "your node versus your guild from other node war" thing, but I don't see any practical disadvantages atm, so it may not be valid use case.
ruby swift
@lean prawn Freehold placement does grant the chance at citizenship
young elk
Is there any solo content
ruby swift
Yep, but mainly geared toward group dynamics. You could solo stuff, you just won't have as much fun or access to other content.
steep prairie
@full badger thank you 😊
quartz wigeon
Okay, so we know this game will have a supscription system, but will it be stoppable? For example, I'm often off the house cause of vacations/work or other things and I lose the opportunity to play the game which means I'm kinda losing the chance to play and my subscription I bought is wasting.
Will there be an option to temperarly hold on the subscription for the a certain period of time?
young elk
I heard its about 200+ hours to get max level?Is it true
sweet hawk
@idle siren Sorry for the ping, but really interested in whether there's a possibility that an "offspec" such as Fighter-Tank would end up outperforming Tank-Tank when it comes to tanking, due to pumping out more threat while still staying healthy enough to tank everything, or will you be balancing the game out in the way that the Tank primary class will always be the go-to pick for tanking?
I'm asking this, because in the event that Fighter-Tank or any other "non-Tank primary class" would be the best for tanking, competitive players would essentially be forced to reroll a new character just to stay on top of the game, despite picking THE tank class.
sullen fern
As for alpha's and beta's do we keep progression! Does everything rollover on full release?
little dust
@sweet hawk a primary Tank is probably always going to perform better at Tanking than any other class doing a different primary with Tank as a sub. Why? Because the sub-class only augments/adds to the primary classes skills, they do not bring skills from the sub class. So, for instance, a Fighter-Tank would have only fighter skills, but those skills would be augmented by the tank class, like maybe a fighter skill added a little bit of threat. It's not going to be nearly the amount of threat that could be generated by a Tank primary skill. I would say the interesting thing would be the variety of Tank primaries with different sub-classes.
desert ivy
@quartz wigeon No, you won't be able to "pause" the subscription. You can cancel it, but not pause it.
@sullen fern No you lose progression.
@young elk Yes, it should be more than 200 hours.
@crystal beacon Yes they're planning on letting guilds have their own logo.
young elk
finally no tons of alts
sullen fern
Cool thnx
little dust
@young elk I feel like there will still be people with alts just because they want to play a different Adventure set up or have a desire to have multiple mastered professions, but from what I've seen even after you hit the level cap (which should take quite a while), there should be so much to do in the game that it's not going to matter that much
stone atlas
I've read about the secondary archetype offering four different schools of augumentation for a primary skill, will every primary skill have the opportunity for four schools of augumentation ? Is this true ?
steady ocean
@stone atlas each of the primary skills you choose to use yes.
young elk
rogue+rogue ftw
west turtle
assassin 
tranquil willow
+
little dust
Hmm... I just listened to the interview again. Can't tell whether Steven means that each primary skill allows you to choose from the four schools or when he says you choose to spec into a school it means that you choose a school and then all of your primary skills are part of that school
desert ivy
You get to pick the augment for each skill
tranquil willow
the secondary class archetype gives you the option to choose one of 4 augment types that are related to the secondary class
young elk
hard
tranquil willow
so X + mage gets mage's 4 augment types
mage will probably have some elemental augment types like fire frost lightning and such
little dust
Yeah, I think the question was... If you're Fighter/Mage then let's say you have that Rush skill. Let's say the schools of augmentation are Teleportation, Fire, Ice, Lightning. If you use Rush, depending on your augmentation you might teleport directly to them, cause a burning, freeze, or stun effect. That's totally understandable.
tranquil willow
yes
little dust
But... The question is let's say you set Rush to Teleportation and you also have a "Heavy Swing" attack as a fighter. Is Heavy Swing also a teleportation augment (because you chose Teleportation), or can you choose to do Rush as Teleportation and Heavy Swing as Lightning
tranquil willow
i believe so, but not sure. maybe somone knows this
west turtle
dont think there is any info on that but sounds possible
little dust
Yeah, because when I listen to the interview the first point is very clear, but he also says you have to "spec into an school" so I don't know if you choose a school and it applies to all the Primary schools or you can have variations across all the primary skills
We'll find out though, either way it's a really cool system
young elk
my head is just gonna explode :c
little dust
Looks like you chose the fire augmentation, then
tranquil willow
hehe exactly
young elk
no fire for rogues
little dust
tranquil willow
@young elk shadow in that case
young elk
real sleet
Dont forget that you possibly will not be able to augment every skill you have. It was stated that you need Skill Points for augments.
Do we know if there will be a Skill Point cap?
little dust
Well, I hope the augmentation can be different for every primary skill, but I also can imagine the amount of balancing that many skills would take and feel pity for the developers
tranquil willow
there will be a cap as far as i know
young elk
@little dust there is no way to balance every skill
tranquil willow
and it will be tied into a guild's progression system
a guild could choose to get more skill points or more members for example
young elk
wut
tranquil willow
yup 
desert ivy
That's the guilds points, not players skill points
@tranquil willow
crystal beacon
tranquil willow
i didnt lie, that exists
if you join a guild you may get more skill points
it was said by steven somewhere
young elk
That's the guilds points, not players skill points
desert ivy
Guilds have their own progression trees to use guild skill points for. You don't get more personal skill points for joining guilds.
young elk
great
desert ivy
So the guild skill points can be used to unlock abilities for the guild for example, or they could use the skill points to increase the allowed member count.
I've never heard of players getting more personal skill points for joining a guild, but maybe someone else has
tranquil willow
thats what i said lol
young elk
Oh
desert ivy
The guy who asked this question
Dont forget that you possibly will not be able to augment every skill you have. It was stated that you need Skill Points for augments.
Do we know if there will be a Skill Point cap?
was talking about ability skill points, not guild points though
tranquil willow
quartz wigeon
is this real?
desert ivy
Yes
quartz wigeon
Ohh boi
half apex
Basically, if i can't choose augment for each skill separately, this system isn't different from any other mmo's selectable talents. Like arcane mage, shadow priest etc. All the hype i got for it would dissapear as i find it boring.
tranquil willow
yeah its talents
young elk
half apex
Basically you have more choices, in the same system. But ofc it's my own opinion, and hope in the same time that i can pick differenc augments to my skills based on my taste.
desert ivy
You pick an augment for each skill. You don't just pick "fire" and then all your abilities are fire based.
slow meadow
we know you will be able to select different augments for your skills. As you level up and unlock your 4 augments they are simply unlocked and can be used. We know this because you can also have racial, religious, and social augments in addition to the ones you unlock by leveling up your class
desert ivy
You go "hmm, I want my fireball skill to actually be lightning augmented", then choose that. Then you may have the blink skill as well and be like "I want to pick the teleport augment for it to go even more distance when using it".
outer ivy
Hi, Any issues with the website atm? I'm trying to buy the $250 package but after entering card details I just get a blank web page pop up? Tried twice now on chrome (also cleared cache and cookies etc)
stray current
c!support
outer ivy
thanks, will log there 🙂
hard locust
Here's a question, is there a launcher that has been released?. I preordered a couple years ago and don't know if it has gone that far or not.
I believe I got the Voyager Plus package, I'm not sure whether I need to go get it confirmed somewhere.
375, so alpha 2 it is.
ashen vault
I have two questions regarding Family Summoning (concerned about exploits). 1) Is there a limit to how many times within a 24 hour period that someone can summon a family member? 2) What is the cooldown on changing family members within your group of 8?
young elk
dont change ur family😭
slow meadow
What is known is here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Family_summon. But Steven has made it very clear that they will be adjusting the family summon based on testing and are aware of the concerns around family summons and will make sure its not exploitable.
ashen vault
Thank you
brazen salmon
Hi, I have a question about what would happen in the following situation. So there is a lvl 5 node and it has a lvl 3 vassal node. I establish my freehold in the ZOI of the lvl 5 node, near this lvl 3 vassal, but not quite inside its ZOI. Now the level 3 node advances to level 4 and my freehold is no inside the ZOI of the lvl 4 node. Does my citizenship now switch to the lvl 4 node, or do I remain a citizen of the lvl 5 node?
Or is that situation for some reason not possible?
ashen vault
I have a question about marriages. It says there is a marriage component within in the game that unlocks certain node quests. Is this getting married to another player (like me RL hubby) or do I have to marry some NPC (boo)?
young elk
ofc RL
slow meadow
@brazen salmon Your citizenship would remain with the node you were with originally.
ashen vault
ofc RL?
young elk
imagine marry NPC
slow meadow
@ashen vault marriage would be to another player, not an NPC
ashen vault
Thank you (I like Pharazon's answer better).
novel ice
Do the 5 castles in the world reflect racial aspects or are they generic human ones
half apex
I can't answer this surely, but it would be interesting, if it change based on the guild. I mean if the guild is like 50% Dwarf, then transform into a Dwarf Castle.
novel ice
Thats what I would hope since cities reflect the races
slow meadow
here is the relevant quote for that since they already exist in Verra "With five Castles in the world, and each having been owned by different civilizations from the far-flung past of Verra, you can expect that each Castle has its own character. Different terrains and different layouts will result in each Castle having its own advantages and disadvantages. "
novel ice
Hmm I hope "own character" doesnt just mean different human
Would be dissapointing with the cities being racially different
half apex
Based on lore, we return to the world. and the castles are already there. So it's highly possible though they are fixed to an appereance
novel ice
Still with the world being able to shape and change and rebuild I wouldnt see why the castles couldnt as well
slow meadow
the appearance is definitely fixed, but I think its safe to assume the architecture for each will be different to reflect the history of Verra and possible to reflect the NPCs that occupy them when we return.
half apex
we'll get these answers during testing 😄
novel ice
Maybe the castles could be "layouts" that a guild could select from racial influence?
Statically stays the same still
half apex
It the castles can change appearence, then we couldn't pick it i guess. It will be based on the the system they lay down for the node building appearences
hard locust
Elf castle, big ol' tree
novel ice
Yes, want
hard plover
@novel ice different areas in the world are basically the ancestral homes of each race, so I would assume each group of races have 1 castle based on them, and maybe the underground race has 1 too
novel ice
Decent enough answer. So I guess if I want to be in-line thematicaly I'll be leaning towards the area castle that correlates closest to my chosen race
cobalt shale
Arch Lightning Rank 3 says "Anyone who is outside the line has a chance to get a bolt jump to them." Does that include people in your own group? Will there be any possibility of friendly fire for any abilities?
steady ocean
Not at the moment @cobalt shale
unkempt depot
what if a ton of dwarfs go to a human location, will the dwarf citizenry impact the architecture of the town?
unreal zealot
only of they put the most xp into moving it up to a new stage
naive knot
I hope not, I would not want a dwarf node switching to something else lol
steady ocean
Any node can switch as long as it can be upgraded to a higher tier.
unkempt depot
will it 100% change or only partially? that would be weird that you had a human looking place and then all of a sudden everything is dwarf and the old buildings disappear
steady ocean
The node 0 stage is just wilderness, so the first node stage that can have buildings will take the architecture of whatever race added the most experience to its progression at each level up
100% as far as we know
winter moat
@unkempt depot I do think it changes to the race that most helped to develop the last level of the node. Correct me if I'm wrong please. However, I'd LOVE if it's not that way and cities actually have different architectural styles in different parts so you can somehow tell the history behind a city
unkempt depot
Imagine if you were human up until metropolis then a huge influx of dwarves come in and the existing city is all razed down to the ground an a new metropolis comes up without any human stuff. That would seem really weird to me
winter moat
So, bigger nodes prevent smaller ones from increasing their levels. Is there a chance for nodes to not being able to go up from level 0? I'd love to see some zones of pure wilderness 😄
novel ice
I think its dependent on the race that made up the exp to that level.
wanton cosmos
@unkempt depot I'm pretty sure that would be their end goal. They've said on multiple occasions that they want each server to have their own history, and having a intertwined city of different races would be 100% going in that direction
winter moat
@novel ice I do hope it's like that. Let's say humans made the most contribution for first level and elves for second, then the oldest part of the town is human-styled, but the second part is elven and so on
wanton cosmos
I wouldn't want the cities to have wierd segregated areas for each race, but it would be cool to have buildings next to each other possibly be different due to the advancement being from 2 different races
winter moat
That'd be really cool
young elk
what races do we have in game?
slow meadow
as it stands currently the architecture of the node will only reflect the race that contributed the most during the last leveling process. beyond that this conversation should continue in #aoc-discussion or likely better on the forums since the devs do look there for feedback on systems from time to time.
wanton cosmos
It wouldn't be too hard to integrate either, as the building construction system they have seems to be able to make buildings really easily, and connecting buildings of different types shouldn't be too hard for them to do by the launch of the game
slow meadow
@young elk https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races 4 races with 2 sub types each and then the tulnar
wanton cosmos
@young elk 8, +1 for tulnar.
We have 2 humans, 2 elf's, 2 dwarfs, and 2 orcs aside from tulnar
winter moat
I'm sorry to re post the question, but here it goes
So, bigger nodes prevent smaller ones from increasing their levels. Is there a chance for nodes to not being able to go up from level 0? I'd love to see some zones of pure wilderness 😄
slow meadow
yes, that will happen
winter moat
Great
wanton cosmos
@slow meadow aoc discussion has warped into this pit of gibberish man, it's not really even worth talking there
slow meadow
it will not be inherently because of the vassal system but more likely the attrition on the nodes since maintaining 103 nodes isn't likely across the map.
wanton cosmos
Look in there right now lmao. Itd not even worth being a channel
slow meadow
@wanton cosmos I don't disagree but that doesn't mean #questions should be derailed into conversation. Have to try and keep it clean to help make Q&A clear and easy for people trying to get info.
unreal zealot
Maybe we could just ask for a AOC questions discussion channel below this one? would help the people who actually want to discuss it with out the flood of 100's of people all typing. then again you could just private message if its just two of you
real sleet
@winter moat No, this wont happen. Nodes will get level blocked only from level 3 onwards. so theoretically every node can advance to level 2 at least. *edit Not sure here... Jahlon is already interferring...
Yeah, I just checked the wiki. Obviously there is some "neighborhood" system in place as well. As you stated correctly, I was referring to vassal nodes and parent nodes.
But it is stated to be subject of testing in A1.
hard plover
@simple ether in theory though, once a node is vasseled to a parent node it would be able to advance even if it was previously simply blocked right? So wouldn't no node be ever truly stuck at level 0?
novel ice
I'm one of those filthy casuals that hates keyboards. Will there be any controller support to help my wrists please lol? Also on that question, would AoC consider a console release if the game does well on PC?
thorny moat
Spider mounts?
onyx knoll
@novel ice they said no to console release they don't want to have to deal with the restrictions that come with that. They might do controller support tho but it hasn't been confirmed yet
@thorny moat Currently no but there is still a lot more mount skins to come 🙂
novel ice
Thats unfortunate
hard plover
@simple ether Yeah, I guess I was just thinking of it as if a metropolis had eventually vassaled all of them then no node would be stuck at 0. But I guess there will essentially be a chain of nodes preventing each other from growing and some would be stuck at 1, which would cause others to be stuck at 0. Thanks for the answer.
vernal swallow
Okay, in what all ways other than siege can node atrophy happen?
spiral pine
sometimes its just easier to read the wiki than ask a million questions
novel ice
Well this is titled questions
slow meadow
@vernal swallow there is a design for node atrophy where nodes accumulate an XP deficit each day based on their level and as it grows services in the node will shut down and the node will eventually delevel. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes#Node_atrophy
hallow torrent
How does storage work? I couldn't find much on the wiki...Lets say I farm raw resources and want to deposit them in a stash.. is that loot private? is it accessible by others? is it accessible by the player that owns the stash/freehold ?
vernal swallow
@vernal swallow there is a design for node atrophy where nodes accumulate an XP deficit each day based on their level and as it grows services in the node will shut down and the node will eventually delevel. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes#Node_atrophy
@slow meadow oh, didn't know there was wiki for it. Sorry.
Thanks tho
dark jungle
@hallow torrent there are different types of storage. its detailed on the wiki https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Storage
hallow torrent
I've read the whole page but not much info on the topic of who can access the loot inside the storage
hallow torrent
Ty for underlining this for me 🙂
What if the owner of the said chest/house in which the chest is placed chooses to move it/replace it or delete it?
onyx knoll
@hallow torrent move the storage or the house?
In any case, I don't think we know for sure. All we have a definitive answer on is if your house is destroyed, then you lose a portion of the materials and the rest gets mailed to you. It might be a good question to ask in the next Q&A 🙂
hallow torrent
either house or storage in this case. I was wondering if there will be some sort of banking system where I have my private inventory accessed at an NPC
onyx knoll
as far as we know there are no banks
there might be some guild storage
but no traditional banking at an NPC that i know of
crystal beacon
hey guys do we know how casting spells gonna look like? are there only instant spells ?
onyx knoll
since attacking nodes to steal materials is a big part of the game, they don't want a storage that would be outside of that system
@crystal beacon we don't have a full list of the skills with the details of how they work but we do know some spells have cast times
hallow torrent
that wouldnt be a problem, just curious on how the storage of items and resources will work if it can be done only at warehouses and chests that most citizens can access
Cheers for the info
west turtle
hey guys do we know how casting spells gonna look like? are there only instant spells ?
@crystal beacon you can see from latest alpha play on youtube
slow meadow
@crystal beacon they have shown instant cast, cast time and channeled spells in the gameplay videos
crystal beacon
ohh ok.. thnx guys
haughty rune
It's been about 2 weeks since I put a support ticket in. Is the backlog that long?
tulip hatch
About that long yes, due to new upgrades and NDA requests.
Ideally you should hear back this week
haughty rune
I see, thank you
tulip hatch
Youre welcome! 
hopefully you get a response soon
crystal beacon
We get a cosmetic pack every month?
tulip hatch
Cosmetics cycle every month so you can purchase new ones if you already have a pack
crystal beacon
Thanks
half shell
Can embers be used for something right now, or are they just given out with the pre order package for future purchases?
tulip hatch
Nothing right now, itll be for future cosmetics upon launch
latent flax
young elk
any system reqs?
winter hazel
is there any gameplay vid of taming? If so can someone link me the video. I'm trying to make a video about taming, but can't find any gameplay.
round belfry
spiral pine
@winter hazel No there is no gameplay available
winter hazel
dang
woeful cedar
do we know if Destructible environments with the nodes n freeholds are still on the table?
full badger
do we know if Destructible environments with the nodes n freeholds are still on the table?
@woeful cedar We've heard nothing different
spiral pine
Its limited
whole ocean
Anyone know how the game is running on AMD cards in Alpha?
serene temple
Are mounts going to be a collectable thing like wow?
but u can earn new mounts other people dont have?
crystal beacon
Yes, we know that Flying mounts can only be used by Kings and Rulers of Metropolis.
serene temple
I have already seen that stuff I am just not exactly sure how it works... So will u have a menu where u see all the mounts u can ride? Or do u actually have to find a mount in game and get on it?
dark jungle
mounts are items in your inventory
serene temple
ahhh so when it comes to a type of mount like Ground/land mounts there are no different rarity's like mounts that are harder to get?
dark jungle
there are different rarities
serene temple
I might just be dumb
nimble mauve
Since mounts have stats and abilities yes there are different raritys
@simple ether
abilities ¿¿¿
serene temple
ok what I think I am trying to ask is if u get on a mount is that mount forever yours to where u can just get on it like in wow?
dark jungle
most mounts are yours to keep
but royal mounts are only yours for a temporary period of time
serene temple
ok thanks, I'm looking forward to this game 🙂
rare tendon
I saw a video that said players that aren’t kings/rulers can also get flying mounts from dragon eggs? Is that true
kind cloud
yes
young elk
dragon eggs?kings/rulers? wuuut
frigid sandal
@rare tendon yes, but these mounts have limited live time
rare tendon
aw
kind cloud
some bosses can drop fying mounts (dragon egg)
fervent locust
I played lineage 2 for a long time, biggest problem would be the epics and gear enchants would make very hard for new players to be competitive, I have seen somewhere gear will only influence 40% of the total stats, how will you keep the game fun and progressive but keep it accessible to people that play 4h VS ppl that play 12
kind cloud
people who get a title (like major of a city) will also get a flying mount
young elk
@kind cloud can I get pvp title...smth like "PK g0d" and get a flying mount?
dark jungle
@fervent locust
There are events that are that are happening in the world in the game that you won't need to be a hardcore player to impact and join. For example, the triggered events from the PvE standpoint against the cities; the trades of the caravans; those natural battlegrounds that exist; the castle sieges you can login for. There is a lot of systems that are at play where a person can simply log in, participate, have fun, be impactful and then log out.[324] – Steven Sharif
ancient void
The packs with access to alpha/beta currently on the shop, are they geographically limited? That is, if I purchase the packs currently on the shop, can I access alpha/beta-servers in EU?
crystal beacon
Only about 15 people will have Flying Mounts, Majors of Metropolis and Kings of Castles
kind cloud
is the king of a castle the guild leader or someone voted for internaly in the guild?
dark jungle
guild leader
young elk
can they rmt their dragon?
desert ivy
The monarchs and mayors dragon isn't tradeable
dark jungle
rmt will get u banned, so whatever they want
desert ivy
The dragon egg is
young elk
serene temple
Once the game actually comes out is all progress reset? so people pay to play beta and alpha will only have experience and cosmetics?
dark jungle
full wipe on release yes
fervent locust
Btw, the dragon mounts are different from regular flying mounts right?
onyx knoll
yes, everything will be reset
fervent locust
The perishable mounts will be the ones that are only 10max right?
dark jungle
@fervent locust they are all part of the tier of royal mounts
crisp holly
@ancient void test servers will be in the US and EU but there is no region lock so you can play wherever if you are OK with high ping
onyx knoll
@fervent locust there is no "regular flying mount", all the flying mounts are Royal mounts that will be rare and temporary
young elk
when do they plan to release the game?in 2022?
serene temple
so the only real reason to play beta and alpha is for experience and cosmetics? (and fun)
young elk
I mean RELEASE,not any tests
onyx knoll
@young elk no release date yet
young elk
:c
fervent locust
So the kickstarter for 500dollars has a flying mount, that will be perishable?
crisp holly
@young elk no date but the community is guessing 2022-2023
onyx knoll
@serene temple No, the reason to play alpha and beta is to provide feedback to the devs and to test bugs and features so they can improve it for release
young elk
god ~2 years
onyx knoll
@fervent locust it's a skin. You can apply it to a flying mount that you acquire in game
You migth also be able to apply it to a gliding mount (tier 2)
serene temple
so u dont get any cosmetics in beta and alpha?
dark jungle
@fervent locust we dont know if group mounts only exist in the royal mount tier or if they exist in other tiers, or if they are their own tier
onyx knoll
@serene temple That you earn in-game? There might be, we know there were some in APOC
fervent locust
Ok
serene temple
so u dont keep them when its comes out
ancient void
@crisp holly Thanks! And by purchasing the current packs I can access test servers in EU? (When that test phase begins, that is)
onyx knoll
but only in APOC, gotcha, thank Jahlon ^^
serene temple
dang I like how everyone starts fresh 🙂
onyx knoll
@ancient void correct the EU servers for the test phases are in germany i believe
^that one
ancient void
Thank you!
serene temple
@simple ether I though u said u dont earn cosmetics in beta/alpha
onyx knoll
@serene temple you can buy them tho 😛
young elk
So,all guys from alpha1-2 will own cuties like me😭
fervent locust
Will you add a database like lineage 2s old website showing the classes and theyr skills per level?
onyx knoll
@fervent locust The wiki will be updated will all that info as we get it
serene temple
is apoc available to play rn? for free?
onyx knoll
@serene temple currently no
serene temple
ok ty
onyx knoll
it'll be free when it comes back, pretty sure
onyx knoll
Someone else might wana confirm tho
young elk
fervent locust
Would be nice to have that before launch so we could prep everything 😂
fervent locust
Yea
onyx knoll
They might not show us what the augments from being #1 religious guru might be for example
dark jungle
yeah, they may have placeholder abilities for testing
fervent locust
Will necromancer have pets that transfer pain again🤔? That was a cool mechanic
onyx knoll
We don't have a lot of detail on summoner, sorry 😦
fervent locust
Dw I'm happy u get to answer my questions
I'm actually thinking about kickstarting a big amount but I need to ask stuff right 😉
onyx knoll
well, you can't kickstart any amount since the kickstater closed in 2017, BUT you can pre-order here! https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
onyx knoll
And all of the cosmetics in those pre-order packs change monthly so if those that are there now don't inspire you then you can wait for the next ones 😄
ancient pivot
ANy information on guild structures? i.e will guild leaders be able to assign actual roles within the guild? redefined or custom? Thank you
predefined*
awesome thank you
fervent locust
Since you guys are responding so fast I won't search, but will there be a hero system (winner of Olympia glow and global chat)?
Awww
That was cool
Oki tks for answering, you guys are doing a great job and will deffinently make a lot of gamers happy and... many broken marriages n stuff
rare tendon
what will be the difference between a node and a guild in this game?
onyx knoll
a node is a region, a guild is a group of people
not sure where the similarities are haha
young elk
family is smth like const-party but it is in game mechanics?
onyx knoll
A family is a mechanics that allows up to 8 characters to become part of a special group that has some perks within that group
you're not in a party with your family members at all time
it's like a tiny guild on top of your guild
fervent locust
Basicly a constant party
onyx knoll
It's more like a small guild then a party
you can party with other people while in a family
fervent locust
Will you be able to summon your family from anywhere in the world?
onyx knoll
At the moment yes
fervent locust
So imagine
onyx knoll
If you want to discuss the pros and cons and all the possibilities of the family summon i recommend you head down to #aoc-discussion ^^ We try to keep this chat clear for questions and this is a topic that people loooove to discuss haha
rare tendon
not sure where the similarities are haha
@onyx knoll not sure why, but I just assumed that guilds stuck together and live with each other but that’s what a node does
fervent locust
A node is land that can evolve into villages and cities
onyx knoll
@rare tendon You might want to do that, but you don't HAVE to. Castle nodes will strongly encourage a whole guild to be in that castle but the regular nodes not really. You could easily have a guild split up in various areas to help with the moving of goods and such. It'll be up to the various guilds and personal preference of players
fervent locust
If what your asking is if guilds can control nodes that's a different question
onyx knoll
yep
rare tendon
are those wars pvp or pve?
onyx knoll
pvp, but they might have some pve elements to them. Like you could end getting some missions to do before the full on siege for a node war that would give you some bonuses
rare tendon
whats the difference between a node siege and a node war?
onyx knoll
The node siege is the actual pvp event that is scheduled during the server prime time
wheat oxide
are you forced to take part of the event if your node is being attacked or is it only an option?
onyx knoll
So, if you want to destroy a node that is impeding the growth of your own node, then you declare war on that node. That will flag every citizen of those two nodes as combatant (plus their allies) against each other and make them at war. Then a siege time will be chosen, at which time the actual large-scale battle will happen.
@wheat oxide You'll be flagged for combat, but the actual siege is optional, if you're not into that sort of large scale pvp battle you don't have to participate
There are other ways you can contribute to the defense of your node without participating in the actual battle
rare tendon
wouldnt most players go into the largest node just because there’s more players to help defend?
onyx knoll
Doesn't matter if you have a potential of 1000 players living in your town when only 250 can participate in the siege 😛
Plus, small nodes can make alliances and have other players come help
rare tendon
oo that’s cool
also if you’re roaming around the map and your node is getting attacked is there any convenient way to get back?
tulip hatch
we havent been told if the 250 cap is true for node sieges, only castle sieges
onyx knoll
You will know WAY in advance the date and time of the siege
so if you want to participate you'll have time to make it back
rare tendon
I saw a video that said your node has to develop the technology first to be able to travel quicker
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onyx knoll
@tulip hatch ahh, good point
@rare tendon That's only for scientific metropolis (tier 6) nodes. They'll be able to have a flightpath between 2 scientific metros, as well as some fast travel within it's zone of influence if i remember right
rare tendon
when the game opens is there not going to be that many people? since 250 per node node siege seems small compared to the 10k (I read this somewhere) that will be online throughout the day*?
ohh
onyx knoll
@rare tendon there are a total of 118 nodes, and 480km^2 (plus 100 km^2 of underrealm) of map, so the hope is that all the players will spread out around the map and there will be many sieges happening to keep everyone busy ^^
rare tendon
are there any numbers? like what’s the capacity for a level 1 node
onyx knoll
Alright, I appologise, there are 103 normal nodes and 15 castle node areas
rare tendon
or is that undetermined
wheat oxide
but cant you only attack other nodes if your and their node is developed enough? and not all nodes will develop at the same rate I would imagine
onyx knoll
of citizens? 0 lol, only at tier 3 can a node gain citisens
rare tendon
ohhh
onyx knoll
@wheat oxide correct, but there will still be a lot of at least stage 3 nodes! 😛
rare tendon
so guilds can split into different nodes and make an alliance to help each other during node wars?
onyx knoll
you can try, but you're not guaranteed that the mayor will be from your guild
rare tendon
that’s why I assumed that people from the same guild would stay in the same node
onyx knoll
you're STILL not guaranteed the mayor would be from your guild unless you manage to get EVERY SINGLE citizen spot to be taken by your guild
gaunt geode
I thought nI heard it was 5 castles, not 15
onyx knoll
which is possible on paper i suppose
it's 5 castles, but they have nodes around them that they control that are considered castle nodes
rare tendon
well if the majority of a node is from the same guild wouldn’t that guarantee that?
onyx knoll
those castle-controled nodes don't work the same way as the regular nodes so they're counted seperatly
@rare tendon you would in a scientific node where the mayor is voted in, but not in the others. You would have a better chance obviously but not a guarantee
rare tendon
oh there’s different systems for different nodes 
kindred viper
Last I heard alpha 1 was going out to backers the end of August. Is that still happening so we can see some game play?
onyx knoll
Yep yep, scientific is popularity vode, economic is whoever puts the most gold/resource in (aka buy-in office), military is a free for all arena battle with an NPC character you control and religious will be whoever contributed the most in quests in that node
@kindred viper yep, late fall this year they will start the alpha 1 with no NDA
tulip hatch
Alpha 1 testing was going to be extended to an additional set of backers, this time including the backer tier Leader of men.
Not all A1 backers are gaining access
rare tendon
wow that’s really fair
any idea what’s gonna happen when the game opens up? like do u just spawn somewhere and just run around killing mobs 
onyx knoll
Ahh, yes I assumed he meant the full alpha 1, not the QA alpha-1 for the LoM backers, appologies for the confusion
rare tendon
ah
onyx knoll
there will be a main storyline quest that can help guide you if you have no idea where you want to go too. The starting zones are a bit like tutorial areas but they're optional so you could skip them and just head out into the world
tardy elbow
I really need help, i send out a ticked more then a month ago, and I need to create an account before September, else I wont receive the statue, and that would make me sad. It still says that my email is already taken, but that email hasn't been on the account for over a month.
dark jungle
we cant help with your account here
onyx knoll
If the email is taken, couldn't you just asked for a new password tho?
dark jungle
you have to go through intrepid
tardy elbow
but there are mods here
desert ivy
Why not just use another email?
onyx knoll
@tardy elbow mods have no power to help with support, they're just volunteers that keep an eye on things here. The devs don't really take a close look at this channel either
tardy elbow
well as i said ive send out a ticket more then a month ago, if that doesnt help, obviously ima search for other ways to contact them
onyx knoll
you can try DMing Toast but she might not see it since she gets swamped by DMs.
rare tendon
this feels like a dumb question.
how large is the world? like how long would it take a player to walk across the entire map
tardy elbow
yeah idk, DMing is a bit too direct and i heared they get 1000s of DMs per day
onyx knoll
480 km^2 plus 100km^2 of underrealm
onyx knoll
look at Jahlon pulling out the fancy symbols 😛
kindred viper
I just read in the kick starter that the “Leader of Men” backers get a 2 day head start before launch. Will this affect the node progression significantly for those coming into the world first time on launch day?
tardy elbow
if I delete it and it still doesnt work, then both of my email adresses are taken and then I dont even have an account anymore to get on the forums etc. Also i read that to delete an account you also need mod help
potent thunderBOT
Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
onyx knoll
@kindred viper node progression will be disabled for those two days, as well as some other stuff. There will also be servers specifically for those early-start backers so if you don't want to be on the same servers you can just pick a non-early start one 🙂
rare tendon
so those people get to grab households before other people have a chance to?
onyx knoll
no because all the nodes will be level 0
rare tendon
I forgot what the name of the area of land was
onyx knoll
and you can only get housing at node rank 3
rare tendon
oh
onyx knoll
zone of influence?
rare tendon
I saw something that said there’s going to be limited amounts of some plot of land and it’s limited to one per account
onyx knoll
yes the freeholds
sturdy carbon
freeholds
tulip hatch
@tardy elbow you can dm one of us mods to relay the message but we personally cant help you. We can only inform Intrepid that your ticket has been in queue for over a month without a response, they will then inform us what your next steps would be.
rare tendon
oh that’s what they’re called, so the people who get an early start can grab them before other people have a chance to?
onyx knoll
no, those are also considered housing 🙂
rare tendon
ah
onyx knoll
so they won't be available until a node gets to rank 3
open sierra
eager sphinx
i just looked into this game whats the soonest i could play it
fringe radish
There's no release date yet 🤷♀️
eager sphinx
sad face
white sand
Alpha 1 in December
If they reopened the alpha one packs
Depends on how the testeing go
fringe radish
Didn't they say they already have people signing NDAs to be able to play though? Wouldn't that be "alpha one?"
white sand
Well it fully starts in December
fringe radish
Yeah, they just said in the July video that they're literally in the process of sending out the NDAs to everyone who can play
white sand
Some ppl will be able to play it befor that
fringe radish
But if people are playing that's... Alpha 1 👀
Ah, gotcha
Though for the sake of argument it's probably worth noting that just because Alpha One starts in December (maybe) doesn't mean that you can play in December unless they re-open the ability to buy pre-alpha access (maybe).
kindred tree
how do people enter the alpha anyways is it payed? or is it streamers only kinda thing
onyx knoll
you could buy it at some points. Kickstarter backers had some tiers that included alpha 1 and for a while there was a pre-order pack that also had it, but it's not currently for sale
fringe radish
Right now it's I think basically friends & family + people who donated a lot to the kick starter
fringe radish
They've mentioned that they might reopen the alpha one in the shop though, which would be neat
onyx knoll
Indeed. If they do it'll probably be 500$ usd
rare tendon
so would the rest of this would take about atleast a year?
maiden oar
Question what other benefits are there from seconday classes? I understand that they give augments to primary class abilities, but augments can also be gained from your race/religion/proffession/items(?). Is it possible then to completely negate your selection of secondary class?
rare tendon
wouldn’t you just pick the same class for your primary and secondary? or no?
slow meadow
@rare tendon it will take as long as necessary. the betas will be much shorter than alphas but in terms of timeline, Intrepid are committed to getting the systems working well in each of the alphas before moving forward. So any timeline would be pure guesswork.
rare tendon
yea I understand it’s better to have a running and well functioning game than one that’s just gonna fall apart
just curious on how it would work out
slow meadow
@maiden oar think of it as a pool of augments that you can choose to apply to any given skill. so my secondary gives me 4 to chose from at max level and I could have another 3+ to chose from as well. Sometimes I may want to augment my skill with something from my secondary and sometimes I may want my racial augment. You aren't negating anything just expanding your options. That is horizontal progression.
maiden oar
Thanks @slow meadow , but i guess the question is more about what else does a 2nd class bring or is it just augments?
slow meadow
its just the augments
ashen aurora
How do i get into apocolypse? whenever i hit register it just brings me to my profile page
oh well that would answer that
always late to the party
pearl garnet
Hey guys, I am new here and I was hoping for a Rp community. Do we have one..? :o
pearl garnet
So no official rp channel, just guild Discord?
steady ocean
You can try requesting one, but probably better if you create your own discord so you are not interrupted
The various RP groups may have already done, be sure to ask
pearl garnet
Oki. Oki, thanks for the fast answer :)
hollow sentinel
would it be possible for a rogue to set a trap on mats that would track where they go so that if your mats are stolen, you could track where they go and allow you to set up a seige against the village/town/city that is housing the guild of mercenaries? kind of like scrying on a known object from D&D.
cyan brook
Hey is it possible to farm your monthly subscribtion in form of tokens like in wow because if I recall correct it was said that multiboxing will be limited and after response from the community discussions in the dev team started about this topic
steady ocean
@cyan brook Only via the referral system. You cannot buy sub time via in game resources.
@hollow sentinel I do not believe so, but much of the game is still unknown.
cyan brook
How does the referral system work ?
steady ocean
You give friends/family/whomever your code, and you earn 15% of whatever they spend in the form of intrepid bucks. You can trade the intrepid bucks for sub time/embers for cosmetics/real money (subject to change)
desert ivy
So basically, you need to refer 7 people that all pay the $15 sub fee for you to get sub for free each month
Or refer 1 person who whales out and buys a ton of cosmetics
ruby swift
@cyan brook https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program
novel ice
Voice acting and ingame cut scenes. How much (if any) will we see
slow meadow
little to no voice acting, cut scenes I dont think have been expressly discussed.
ruby swift
They have been, there will be some, but very few. That may change later down the line as they get more dosh to throw around.
slow meadow
cinematic cutscenes with voice, sure they aren't really doing that, but just in game cutscenes with text I don't think they have addressed. I know they did a little intro "cutscene" for the dragon boss at the end of the dungeon so there will definitely be in game cutscenes of some variety.
desert ivy
How about on par with Old School RuneScape 
thorn mason
will there be asian servers in some point in the future after release?
oh thats great
warped oriole
if i buy the voyager pack and want to upgrade later to the plus version do i pay the difference or do i have to buy it in full?
fringe radish
That's good to know 👀
pale karma
when the next alpha or beta is coming out?
onyx knoll
Late fall for alpha1
delicate bone
Sorry, this has definitely been answered before but a least not with 5 or scrolls of the wheel sooo....
If i buy a pack now to get into beta/alpha/whatever, the cosmetics and stuff that come with it i assume will go with me to my server of choice even if its being hosted by a 3rd party like EU's my.com. I wanted to ask if you want to transfer server again at a later date, will the whole character and items etr be able to be transfered? Or will it be new character but u can still have the package cosmetics,etc like starting a new. OR will it be just a new character and nothing is transferred?
I realise this is a question potentially for later when more info is set in stone, but curious if there are plans or garentees in place currently.
winter parrot
Can you relocate a freehold possibly to a different area or zoi? And how exactly would that work if you can? Thanks...
real sleet
@delicate bone a Server Transfer means that you get your character to a new server. If you just make a new one, IT is not a transfer.
The cosmetics are account bound so you will have them on every server you are on.
delicate bone
Thanks, that was what i wanted confirmed.
real sleet
I would add to Sullen's question: are Freeholds tradeable?
delicate bone
so even if they are used once , u can still keep them with a transfer, thanks
ruby swift
@real sleet There is sure to be a method of moving your freehold through packing it up. Probably not an easy process to keep it from being abused. Freeholds are not going to be able to be sold as of last information given since the progression on them makes that problematic. In-node housing and possibly apartments can be sold.
@winter parrot
lean raptor
Hmmm I don't think you can "pack up" your freehold considering that you need a certificate from the node it's in
half apex
You can only have 1 freehold/account. So based on it it's not tradable. Also it's a big decision where you buy it, making you more motivated to participate in node defensed..feel the node, you are at, home.
ruby swift
You need the certificate to place it. The method of "packing it up" is already in place in case of destruction, the template is mailed to you. The restrictions I am talking about is not being able to move resources through that process.
hidden crane
@delicate bone Hey there, to clarify- Account Migrations are different from character transfers. Regarding an account migration- you can indeed move your account between regions (NA->EU), doing so will move all your store cosmetics/packs with you. However your characters/equipment/progression will not carry over- only store cosmetics/embers will carry over.
(TL;DR Stuff you buy with your credit card moves around, stuff you buy with in-game gold stays in that region or gets deleted)
The above is based on the most recent quote from Steven from a Discord QnA in June
delicate bone
cool again thanks for clarification
hidden crane
Cheers
celest moat
Will action based abilities deal more damage depending on where they land? Are there Hitboxes for head, torso, legs, hands? e.g. can ranger do a headshot? Or can a mage do a headshot with "laser beam" ? Or maybe headshot = crit?
crystal beacon
prob not
warped oriole
I highly doubt it
warped oriole
they want it to equal through both tab target and skill shots
warped oriole
ooo interesting
ruby swift
It was changed.
golden coral
At the begining Steven said there are headshots that gives you the chance to deal critical damage, but they took it back and removed it fortunately
tranquil willow
maybe someone should remove it from the wiki
ruby swift
Bring it up with Lex
golden coral
Wiki is fan made, not everything is true on wiki
warped oriole
i mean it does say
The idea behind headshot in the MMORPG is that, if we do implement headshots - part of this testing is to determine if we will - but if we were to implement headshots it will be along the lines of a higher critical chance. So basically hitting a skillshot on the head will increase significantly the opportunity for that damage to be critical. Will they one-shot? Absolutely not.
I don't think that was ever a guarantee that it would be in there.
ruby swift
They do their best, sometimes things take awhile to change. If you link the citation to Lex then he will change.
celest moat
I think the headshot = higher crit chance is good thing.. high risk high reward. Was it like that in the "Battle Royale"? Would be great to receive some dev comment on this 🙂
is there anyone here who played the battle royale and remembers the mechanic?) or is it outdated too?
whole ocean
Is A1 going to have all the races / classes available? or which of them will be available?
desert ivy
It was in the Battle Royale and that's one of the reasons they realised it was z bad idea and removed it.
No. A1 at launch will have 3 races. Human, Elves, and Dwarfs along with 5 Archetypes which include Tank, Cleric, and Mage. By the end of A1 they want to add all 8 Archetypes to A1 and add Orcs.
mystic notch
spring dagger
also the tulnar will be added in late alpha 1
sly monolith
i thought they planned to launch alpha 1 this month?
inland mauve
Hello, I have recently lost access to my AoC (and kickstarter) account as it was regrettably still using an old weak password. I have sent a ticket to "support@ashesofcreation.zendesk.com" and am currently waiting for a reply. Is this the best way to solve this issue or should I reach through other means?
arctic oar
Can someone explain the thinking behind the rotation of preorder pack cosmetics and the inability to buy previous offerings? If I drop $375 as soon as I learn about the game am I not as valuable as someone who got last months pack and the option to cherry pick this months? Seems inefficient to keep making new skins available while “limited time offer” packs expire and are missed simply due to not knowing about the game. Why create the extra support overhead of having to refund my purchase this month if I like next months cosmetics better? Why not Just let us pick the preorder cosmetic pack we want?
tulip hatch
Support ticket is the way to do it!
Just have to wait now.
Due to a large ticket influx the wait time may be a bit longer@inland mauve
If you purchase a package this month you can purchase future cosmetics individually
lean raptor
If you buy a package now you can also purchase all future cosmetics for a small fee @arctic oar
arctic oar
Future, ok. And past? Why force the choice of the current cosmetics and keep past ones not an option?
inland mauve
@tulip hatch Thank you. I will wait patiently then. 🙂
tulip hatch
Because they promised them to be exclusive and once they're gone they're gone.
You'd have to ask Intrepid for their reasoning beyond that as we cant actually provide that answer
trail oyster
It rewards players who have been around in the past. Making them more exclusive.
tulip hatch
@inland mauve best of luck to you!
crystal flax
arctic oar
Humm, I get locking time limited kickstarter or play testing rewards but I’m buying the same pack and level of reward someone just bought last month. The voyager plus is the same tier minus cosmetics month to month.
tulip hatch
thanks for hunting down quotes
arctic oar
Am I not still supporting early?
trail oyster
You are, but you also diminish the exclusive rewards players got for backing several months before now. As Steven says, on concept/faith alone.
coarse frigate
^
tulip hatch
This is more of an opinionated question that leads to discussion
Please continue the discussion in general or aoc discussion
arctic oar
Lol I didn’t even know about this game a month ago. Very well will take to general. Thank you.
tulip hatch
Appreciate it
lean raptor
At least how I understood the cosmetic stuff is that you keep the original package that you bought and can purchase additional future cosmetics. So you keep both @arctic oar
dry flower
Do node sieges have any kind of restriction for # of participants?
crisp holly
Not currently
dry flower
Ty
grizzled latch
I thought the sieges were capped 250v250 for now and steven was going to try to get it to 500v500, were those numbers for something else?
onyx knoll
that's for castle sieges
grizzled latch
Oh, thought it was for all of them. That makes more sense though.
crisp holly
Which is probably part of the reason why Steven wants to push the cap of Castle sieges to 500v500 if possible so that the first node siege on a metropolis can handle(the game and personal computers can handle) the number of people fighting over it
novel ice
Pretty sure anyone can participate in a node siege correct?
crisp holly
Yes
celest moat
And anyone can participate in node defence too?
grizzled latch
There been any info on node town/city names? Will they change or be static, will they have names?
onyx knoll
@celest moat well you can't participate in the defense if you're a citizen or ally of the node that is attacking, but other then that as far as I'm aware, yes, anyone can help defend.
@grizzled latch last i heard they hadn't decided, they were considering either static names, or allowing people to chose form a bank of pre-made names
crisp holly
I thought a Node siege was declared by induvial people so there is no exact node that is sieging another node?
onyx knoll
Mh, yeah you're not wrong, it would be "if you're part of the attacking group" I suppose would be more accurate
grizzled latch
Static would make gathering and sorting intelligence far easier. Also getting directions and such would be simpler.
onyx knoll
Yeah, the proposition I saw floating around that I thought might work was that you could rename a town only after it had been destroyed. So the 1st mayor after a node reaches rank 3 would pick the name from a bank and it would stay that until it dropped back down to 0 and then up to 3 again.
Otherwise your town would change name every month and that's a bit silly haha
crisp holly
^ I like that suggestion/plan a lot
wind storm
if your a vassal of node A and you are not happy with node A can your mayor do something about it? declare on node A or what?
grizzled latch
Nope
onyx knoll
A vassal node can't attack their parent
grizzled latch
Vassals are locked in alliance with parent
wind storm
what can be done then
onyx knoll
You could make a deal with a guild that isn't part of the vassal node to attack the big one tho 😛
crisp holly
A Node War = no. A node siege = yes(because that is players doing that not the node)
grizzled latch
Choose not to defend and stop questing there so the upkeep drops off
karmic copper
Are there any plans to introduce or have stat tracking? For example how many deaths, raids cleared, items crafted, enemies killed, players killed, etc.?
wind storm
thanks good ideas couldn't remember what was said about that situation
onyx knoll
@karmic copper I don't think there were any mention of this, but mostly because no one asked yet. Would be a good question to try and get into the next Q&A 🙂
karmic copper
Will do, would love to see a character stat sheet in game. Thanks @onyx knoll
Is there a next Q&A scheduled?
grizzled latch
Also recommend bringing it up in the forums, get some more people to suggest it for the Q&A too.
onyx knoll
They usually do them at the end of every month
crisp holly
There might be some kind of leader board but if exact stat tracking is done, it will have to be carefully done to not end up being something that people gate others on(like dps meters).
grizzled latch
You must have at least 500 deaths to join my party! Lol
crisp holly
Lol Exactly
wind storm
what is the closest mmo game out now to ashes of creation? and which ones suggest to play to get use to the way AOC plays?
spiral pine
guildwars 2 or archeage
onyx knoll
mh, that's a tough question considering AoC will be so unique... I can say this; some of the biggest inspirations for this game come from Archeage and Lineage.
spiral pine
maybe even bdo
grizzled latch
I would say Archeage is most similar for economic reasons
wind storm
i have seen dnd tabletop also as inspiration or pathfinder tabletop i played dnd when it was justin the starter box set
onyx knoll
haha, it's changed a lot, but that's probably a discussion for #general-discussion
wind storm
yea one strange question ,i see wesley ii,gamer of sound showing playing ashes of vreationis he/she a developer or something like that?
ashes of creation to the right side of chat
onyx knoll
oh that's a fake status
You can make custom "playing XXX" status in discord, that's what they do
you can tell it's fake because the name of the game isn't in bold
wind storm
thanks did not know
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon Not a lot of folks have hands on experience with the game at the moment, I'd recommend waiting for alpha 1 to start later this fall. You can try poking around in #aoc-discussion and see if you can find a high tier kickstarter backer that wants to share their thoughts
digital turtle
You can play around in AAU, but it has a very serious flaw with their gearing progression
If you play, I would say go in as a tourist, but do not get invested into it
The Hiram gear was meant to be a catch up mechanic for new players to catch up, but now it is the only set of gear tied to a daily grind
wind storm
you said archage to play but which one regular or unchained version
unreal zealot
unchained is no p2w i think
wind storm
thanks
digital turtle
it doesn't have p2w, but they didn't replace the system so your are left with this bad system with elements removed, but not replaced
it is sad because it does so many other things really well
plucky temple
don't even touch AA my dude @wind storm
untold belfry
Touch it
digital turtle
again, I think there are some good elements to experience (housing, gathering, commerce), but the gear grind is broken. I could see people having fun with a tourist approach to the game.
unreal zealot
Last word for this topic any more we should move to #general-discussion give BDO a look to
hardy bolt
bdo is shit, don't go there either 
onyx knoll
Please keep this channel clear for questions 🙂
golden flame
Any big news in the past couple months come out? I’ve been out of the loop
fringe radish
Yeah, check the youtube for updates and play footage 🙂
lean prawn
Not much, except it exploded over the internet thanks to TheLazyPeon.
lapis sonnet
So, I know node seiges can pretty much be declared anytime. But if you do a castle siege for your guild to own one of the castles...it said it can be done monthly. Do players choose when that happens? Like can a player decide hey Saturday at 8 pm we’re doing it? Or does the server dictate when it’s available?
onyx knoll
the way I understand it, there will be some time slots you can chose from depending on your server's prime time
So you can't say; alright let's sneak a siege in at 3am on tuesday
lapis sonnet
Interesting. I work a lot during the week so anything that can be done at night would be amazing lol.
onyx knoll
Mh, you might need to find a server that is in a different time zone then yours then, from what we've heard it seems like they plan to make the "prime time" windows in the afternoon/evenings
lapis sonnet
Ya I know. Tho I get off at like 6:30 local time and am home by 7 pm so that oughta help XD. If I did US eastern I’d be on at like 8 pm server
Is that better ish towards what they are going for?
onyx knoll
I don't think it's been finalized yet, they'll probably be testing a few different options during alphas/betas, and then decide. At the moment the times that were mentioned are from around 3pm until 9pm
server time
lapis sonnet
Well that’s good. Thanks
onyx knoll
anytime o7
vapid veldt
@simple ether In regards to housing, specifically freeholds, will we be able to allow certain people (family, spouse or others) to place furniture in the house, maybe even suggest structure changes (with final call to the owner in the case of structure changes) ?
slow meadow
@vapid veldt yes you can give permission to decorate but not take anything from the house, give access to crops and some others. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds under freehold security
vapid veldt
So they can only take anything that they themselves put there?
So if I build a house in a freehold, and I choose for it to be empty, my gf for example can come in, with my permission, and decorate, move around and put in and take away anything she puts there?
You might wanna check out what happens in ESO and the fact that some details have players a little pissed off (overall the system is good but some bad decisions imo)
unreal zealot
what i heard @simple ether say in a video (i think it was his opinion of how it should or could work) is if your married you should be allowed to place freeholds next to each other. correct me if im wrong tho.
vapid veldt
because I really do wanna give "free reign" to my gf to decorate. Perhaps an option for me to "lock" items in place or similar just to give control to the owner. Also @unreal zealot yeah freeholds next to each other to married couples would be great (with nonabusable checks in place)
ruby swift
There is a minimum distance between freeholds to keep the city spam down. I have seen nothing about linked freeholds because of a marriage mechanic. They have said you will be able to give people various levels of permission.
vapid veldt
Yeah I saw that video, hopefully your opinion becomes reality
Just wanna say, little off track, I really like and appreciate the amount of content you put out man
I can tell it takes dozens of hours of hard work
Well count me in on the bag of players who want that
see if we get a big enough bag for it to reach Steven
empty fjord
I think it was mentioned in a Q&A way back if other people could get permission to do decorate for you since that is more fun for some people than others
I think the general consensus was for this idea
but don't quote me on that, it's a vague memory from previous livestreams
crystal beacon
im trying to play the mmo and cant find out where a download is.
slow meadow
its still in pre-alpha so nothing is currently available. alpha 1 testing begins this fall
digital turtle
Is AoC Apocalypse available? (that battle royal version)
slow meadow
no its been pulled down while they focus on a1
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon The game is far from being available to play for everyone. If you want early testing access you can buy a pre-order on the shop that includes a key to either alpha 2 or beta : https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
digital turtle
ok, Thank you. Just itching to try it out
crystal beacon
to compose/freeform
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon THen you should be getting access later this fall when they open up alpha 1
crystal beacon
just thought it started do to the youtube videos popping up of people playing it
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon currently no, they seem open to the idea but it's probably really low on the priority
crystal beacon
@onyx knoll ok thank you
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon those videos of people playing are all dev footage. The only folks that have hands on on the game currently are very high backers from kickstarters and the devs
onyx knoll
anytime ^^
random trench
This site https://ashespost.com claims that the next dev livestream will be on the 28th. Fact or speculation?
ruby swift
The majority of livestreams are the last Friday of the month. While there have been a few exceptions, that is pretty spot on.
onyx knoll
educated speculation
plucky pawn
@random trench Speculation, we haven't announced the next one yet (we typically do that about a week in advance) - but a guess based on previous streams 😄
You can keep an eye on #news for when we announce the next one!
random trench
Perfect, thanks
crystal beacon
A bit of an odd question, any Ashes of creation lore content creators?
Can we destroy peoples houses either inside nodes or outside
onyx knoll
not much to go off of at the moment lore-wise, they want to keep most of it secret until launch @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
Yeah I thought so, thanks Xene.
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon You can if you are attacking that node. So if you declare a war on a node and siege it, during the siege you can destroy building inside the main town. If you win the siege you'll have a few hours to go around and try to break freeholds in it's zone of influence too
crystal beacon
ok nice i like that, i don't need to worry about my house being destroyed at anytime!
onyx knoll
You'll get a heads up at least haha
nocturne tide
Is there any clue on whether there will be an OCE server?
nocturne tide
Sorry about that, and thanks!
onyx knoll
no worries ^^ you're welcome
nocturne tide
Just wondering, i havent researched the game alot but will people be annoyed if i ask a few basic questions?
onyx knoll
of course not! that's why we're here 😄
plucky pawn
Not at all, that's what this lovely channel is for 😄
onyx knoll
I might redirect you a lot to the wiki though haha
subtle swan
EU will be with Russia then
onyx knoll
Currently the test servers are
subtle swan
That's good and bad
nocturne tide
Oh ok, i might have a look there before i ask some then. Thanks so much though (:
onyx knoll
that doesn't mean it'll the final spot for launch
wait no, Franfurst isn't in russia, is it?
grizzled hatch
No
onyx knoll
isn't that in germany?
grizzled hatch
Yes
subtle swan
Of course it is in germany
subtle swan
but its the closest region to russia
onyx knoll
So yeah currently the EU servers are in genermany xD
subtle swan
So obviously, they will connect to EU
crystal beacon
Another quick question but how often is the skin packages refreshed on the store
grizzled hatch
Will the launch EU server be in Frankfurt too, or is it susceptible to moving
onyx knoll
Ahh did you mean Russia will be on the regular EU servers and not have their own? in which case I do believe so
subtle swan
yes
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon give or take every month
subtle swan
i dont think its that bad, adds to the political situation for sure, but would be annoying for many people as well
crystal beacon
@onyx knoll ok thank you!
onyx knoll
@grizzled hatch Nothing is set in stone at this point, so it's possible they'll move them, or if it's working well during testing they might keep them there
peak wasp
@crystal beacon also they post a warning on https://ashesofcreation.com/news about 2 days before swapping out the current stuff
thorny crescent
is there a video i can watch somewhere about the combat? im curious what tab combat loks like.
grizzled hatch
Also is it certain that they'll wipe the beta servers or is there still a possibility that they won't
dark jungle
certain
ruby swift
All testing servers will be wiped. Multiple times with a final wipe before launch.
onyx knoll
@thorny crescent There isn't an official video specifically about combat but some of it is showcased in the various dev footage. You can look at either the 4k one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwaYLOuw2s&t=2656s) or at the stuff they showed in the last dev update (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI8DDBX7hD0&t=2698s)
keep in mind the combat is far from final tho
finite apex
Does anyone know if there is going to be controller support for the game?
onyx knoll
Maybe, it hasn't been confirmed. I don't think they had planned on it but a lot of ppl are asking for it so they might end up adding it
ruby swift
They want to have it, but is not a priority. UE4 has native controller support. Last test I was able to use an XBox controller to move, jump and basic attack. There is no option for bindings as of yet.
onyx knoll
we know there won't be any console port tho
digital turtle
Don't mean this to be a pointed question, but what is AoC's tolerance / stance on bots? I have played several games where there are 24-hr shouts that are either RMT or Merc related or a gather that is an obvious bot with the same pattern of mining or fishing 24hrs a day 7 day a week. And it always baffles me to see months go by and they are still there like a sore thumb.
Is AoC going to be aggressive on botting?
onyx knoll
@digital turtle Bots are obviously a big no-no. They are planning to be very agressive against them
ruby swift
Yes, repeated assurances they are not about the bot life.
onyx knoll
They'll have an AI that flags suspicious activity and a lot of GM to review an monitor stuff
unreal sierra
I was reading on the wiki, it says 'by default naval caravans will have racial appearances', does this mean by this ruling there may be (or is already in the game) planned ship-styles for ships that were to be built that are themed after the races? TL;DR in case I was confusing. Are racial ships going to be a thing that's buildable?
ruby swift
We haven't seen that in depth yet, but yes?
onyx knoll
@unreal sierra caravans are not the same thing as ships, these are two separate systems. The caravans by default will have a look based on your race, but I don't think they've specified for large ships
But I would assume so personally
unreal sierra
Oh good, I hope so, I'm a big fan of naval combat and ships
onyx knoll
(the caravans can transform into mini-boats that go on water but they're not ships is what i meant)
digital turtle
That is nice to hear and I hope to not be disappointed then.
unreal sierra
(don't really see many naval related things on some mmos)
onyx knoll
Steven loves naval stuff so I expect we'll see some big things come from that. For now, not a lot of info tho 🙂
unreal sierra
\o/
steady ocean
@unreal sierra I would assume the ship would take the racial form of the person that builds it, especially naval caravans
umbral creek
This game is looking so ducking good! Well done to everyone involved ❤️
unreal sierra
👍
nocturne tide
Aight so i read through the faq and i have a few questions that i guess are more related to the social aspect then gameplay if that makes sense
nocturne tide
I heard somewhere that theres going to be a player cap of 8-10,000 per server, and i was just wondering how easy it would be able for people who know eachother prior to the opening of these servers to join them together
onyx knoll
They plan on allowing early registration for guilds
so you can say: i have a group of 50 ppl that all want to be on the same server, and they'll be like; ok, according to all the groups request we received this X server would work best for you guys
that sort of thing
(also 10k is online at once, you'll be able to have a lot more accounts registered on the server then that 10k)
wanton nacelle
I believe total accounts created for the servers was estimated to be 30-50k (not all online concurrently)
nocturne tide
Oh ok gotcha. would that make for alot of issues like not being able to access the server during peak times?
onyx knoll
That's what testing is for, so they can figure out a balance that works! I assume there will be some Qs during prime time early on when the hype is at the highest and then it'll balance out
nocturne tide
And theres not going to be any purchasing places on the server? Its just gonna be the base subscription fee and nothing else?
onyx knoll
base sub, that's it
no box cost, no paying for your spot
no paying for xpacs either once that becomes relevant
nocturne tide
Ok damn thats good
I guess thats probably it for now, im sure ill come back with some more soon haha
Thanks so much!
onyx knoll
anytime 😄
cyan coral
hey ppl ,ive been on vacations for some days ,any new gameplay video has been out ?