Does anyone already know what class they would play? The list is overwhelming to me (in a good way.)
#questions
lavish zealot
odd goblet
man this game is gonna be so cool
onyx knoll
This of it like... a glass canon. Mage/mage would be very strong at mage stuff but have very little in term of survivability compared to a mage/cleric or mage/tank
forest pike
As it should be
onyx knoll
If you want to discuss this topic further I recommend you all head down to #aoc-discussion ❤️
civic obsidian
^
faint wasp
I don't know my class yet, but I found it very helpful to start with ruling out what I won't play
So I have some idea from that
lavish zealot
I was PRETTY skeptical of this MMO, heard about it like a year ago. Then saw Peons video and then if im being completely honest. Steven's interviews and responses are what really sealed the deal for me, very impressive responses/passion!
Alright @onyx knoll I'll head down, that'll be my last follow up.
west turtle
Who will supply GMs/moderators for EU, Mycom or intrepid?
odd goblet
probaby first thing u wanna think is what do u wanna do if u wanna tank/dps/heal, and my question is, will only the tank be able to tank? or if a fighter be able to also?
faint wasp
Most classes with tank secondary could likely augment into the ability to at least off tank
But I haven't seen any comment on that specifically, so would be an idea to ask in an ama
odd goblet
cant immagine a mage-tank tanking xD
odd goblet
kinda getting a feeling a spellstone would be a tankier mage more for pvp thne tanking but i donno
dense inlet
some one know on alpha two and beta one and two it will be na servers or europe too? (for someone like me from middle east that plays on europe server mostly)
novel ice
Can I pre-order a plain small rock specific to me and my account
I'll pay for it if a dev can see this
hollow elm
Should have done kickstarter, spend the cash and design a mob and get the 1 and only pet of that mob
I don't think the pet is an attacking pet, I think it's a 1 of a kind skin, for those who spend the money to help develop a mob
unreal zealot
its a cool concept but they wouldnt make it unique to you alone i think and it would be very expensive having an npc named after you or something would be better imo
but kickstarter isnt ever gonna be here again for obvs reasons so its all a dream
hollow elm
I know kickstarter is gone, but that was a perk in one of the expensive packs
Also naming a npc after someone is super simple
novel ice
Well I have the leader of men package. But I want a plain small rock 🤷🏻♂️
hollow elm
Isn't the leader of men 1000
unreal zealot
didnt realise it was a kick starter option, i tohught u was saying they should have done it xD
hollow elm
The 10000 i believe had the perk of help making a mob
heavy cradle
Who will supply GMs/moderators for EU, Mycom or intrepid?
@west turtle This is a very good, yet overlooked question.
night yacht
Think 5k was making a mob
thorny jay
Are NPC guards in nodes going to be killable within reason or are they going to be unattackable oneshot patrols like in other games such as Archeage?
hollow elm
Thx @night yacht
west turtle
@heavy cradle no1 can rly answer besides devs themselves, ignored 
dark jungle
@thorny jay NPC guards are killable, but will be tough to kill
heavy cradle
I've added it to my notepad list of questions to copy and paste into the Q&A
west turtle
guccimayne
gentle briar
can i get the link to the mount comparisons to human size pictures pls/
or where to find 
onyx knoll
uuuh, I mean, every mount has a different size, so idk if there is a concept that shows EVERY mount with a human-size comparison
this one has it tho
gentle briar
there was 1 but i don't remember where i saw it
it showed the models and human size next to it
onyx knoll
there's a horse one too
dense arrow
Will guards scale there level with the level of the node or will they all be a preset level from camp to metropolis?
hollow elm
Are kickstarter backers able to upgrade their packs more than those who missed the kickstarter
wild marsh
Yes @hollow elm Kickstarter backers are able to upgrade at any point. I went from the $50 kickstarter backer to the $150, up to the $500 one.
@dense arrow I don't think this has been answered by a dev, sadly.
dense arrow
ok no problem
Oh ok, so there will be npc guards on caravans. is there a cap on how many players can attack/defended a caravan?
🙂 cool. so do the nps guards need to be hired or upgraded to have them?
or do they just come with a caravan
gentle briar
onyx knoll
@dense arrow I believe it depends on the type of caravan, a player-driven one would require the player themselve sto hire NPC if they want them (or add them when they create the caravan itself I think?), where as the automated Quest-driven caravans will have NPCs by default, if I understand it right
THe mayoral ones will probably need the mayor to decide what kind of guard he wants to asign to it, too
dense arrow
Thanks for helping answer my questions 
im very excited to see this game when its finished.
trail steppe
Does anyone know when the game date is scheduled?
onyx knoll
release, you mean?
blazing ravine
What advice would you give to someone learning 3D modeling and the flow of work?
onyx knoll
we don't have a date for release, all we have is the alpha 1 starting in fall, everything else is just guessworks
@blazing ravine ...leave now, while you still can
just kidding, are you learning on your own or at school?
blazing ravine
at the moment on my own via Udemy but I want to go to a school when im done
Im currently learning in Blender
onyx knoll
That's a good start but if you plan to work in the industry, no one uses Blender. Luckly moving from one program to an other isn't too hard, usually they all have basically the same tools but you'll need to relearn all your shortcuts lol This isn't really AoC related tho, so you can PM me if you want me to share my own experience, otherwise I'd give #general-discussion a go
steep patio
I got a quick question for anyone, is emblem of importance to y'all when looking at joining a guild? for instance first impressions
onyx knoll
Not for me, unless it's something really jarring. That's more of an opinion thing then an AoC question, i'd recommend you try #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion
steady ocean
You could try #aoc-guild-chat as well
honest solstice
will there be a way to compose and play music ingame rather than just over voice ? would but amazing for rp and just gereral fun
hollow elm
- Are castle sieges and node sieges in the open world or are they instance?
- If they are not instance, what is stopping me from joining in even though its at its cap on player participation? would I still be-able to help or would I be just able to run around and watch the show?
- For arenas would they be instance? or would there be an arena in the node that has arenas and anyone can walk into the stands and watch fights happen?
- If there are instances for castles and nodes, would there be spectating mode?
onyx knoll
@honest solstice We don't have confirmation or otherwise for that. We know tavern owners will be able to chose the music that plays in their tavern but it might just be from a pre-selected playlist. I think they are open to the idea but it's still way too early to say if they'll have time to add it before launch
@hollow elm castle sieges are instanced, node sieges are open. I don't think there has been any mentions of a spectator mode for either, and we don't have a lot of info on arenas beyond "they'll be a thing"
hollow elm
ty
so sieges are like zone areas, once its capped on player it will kill all who are not participating?
castle
got it
fallen sail
Is there a channel for question etiquette? Don't want to ask a dumb one.
Lmao
Does breeding animals include breeding mounts?
thorn bison
This reminds me, when u die in siege warfare, how it work? your up again in couple seconds and back into action? or is there some limits?
fallen sail
I saw in a video that flying mounts will be very limited. Assuming you can't breed those?
Sick. Can you control when they hatch?
And is animal husbandry a full-on artisan class?
fallen sail
Thank you for the link!
onyx knoll
np 🙂
blazing ravine
When it comes to player driven economy, is there going to be a baseline or its it purely up to players?
honest solstice
have they done a poll in the past of what classes people plan to main {base archtype}
onyx knoll
@honest solstice kinda pointless at the moment since we don't even have the base skills for most of them 😛
honest solstice
yea but i still know what i want to play =]
arctic sky
@blazing ravine all I remember from the economy was they had it as a higher up ks reward
onyx knoll
@blazing ravine a bit hard to answer at the moment since we don't know how much weight on the economy the NPC factions (religions, mage academy, thieves guild etc) will have
fallen sail
Damn, just read the whole animal husbandry page. Super hyped.
crystal beacon
Hey! 🥺 i know this is a super early question rn but. How many Hours of Music will actually be avaiable when the game will launch?
steady ocean
I'd be very surprised if even the developers know that answer at this point in development (although they could!).
crystal beacon
😂 I know ahaha ... I'll retry in some months 😅✌
I just like the soundracks so much... They make you feel part of the world you know... 😄
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon the current music they use in videos isn't actually the final soundtrack, that will be revealed sometimes during beta and as Jahlon said, is being composed by Bear McCreary
eager verge
Quick question. Do you have to become part of a religion if you don’t want to?
steady ocean
You don't, but it may limit your progress in some ways.
eager verge
That’s just a little creepy for me. 😂
steady ocean
It's just a game system, not a true religion 🤷♂️
patent pier
Dude Bear McCreary is a boss, so I wouldnt be worried ❤️
eager verge
Can you get around it by joining artisan guilds, etc?
patent pier
You really dont HAVE to
But yes, its a super deep system that you are missing
Just like you can live without any artisan classes
steady ocean
So you have various paths you can follow that lets you progress horizontally (as in, you open up more of the game). Religion is one, professions are another path, PVP/PVE/etc. It's your choice as a player what you want to do.
wary steppe
When it comes to weapon slots, will polearms/great weapons take the back slot instead of the ranged, or will they be belt slot?
steady ocean
The thing about religion is that it may be able to help you progress vertically as well (as in, give you more power in the form of a perk or augment) so it could be important if you want to be the highest dps/best healer/ best tank. At a minimum, if you wanted to, you could just spam through all the quest dialogue to kind of ignore the "religious" aspect to it and just skip to the rewards @eager verge
@wary steppe https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons#Gear_slots
eager verge
Ok thx very much for the info.
steady ocean
belt from what I'm reading @wary steppe
wary steppe
Wanted to make sure I was reading that correctly. Thanks
thick gazelle
is the new video coming soon discussing classes? because i have heard something like that
desert ivy
Definitely not classes, maybe archetypes but that's probably a couple months away
lunar hedge
I was looking at the artisan trees and was wondering if there was a crafting branch of taming (gathering) and animal husbandry (production)?
onyx knoll
Not that we know of, but maybe. We don't have a full list of confirmed artisan jobs
desert ivy
If you're asking if you can master both, then no
onyx knoll
no he's asking if there is a job in the crafting category that is related to taming and animal husbandry 🙂
lunar hedge
Correct, i was thinking could it be cooking? lol
lunar hedge
It is probably something to do with mounts
onyx knoll
we know you'll be able to harvest some cooking materials from animals like milk
lunar hedge
cause i saw animal husbandry produces mounts
onyx knoll
NO EATING THE MOUNTS!
solemn magnet
Is 14 days for an anwser to a support ticket normal nowadays?
onyx knoll
Possibly, but that could be under blacksmithing. At this point it's more theorycrafting so I recommend you head down to #aoc-discussion 🙂 We try to leave this channel clear for questions
pseudo crane
onyx knoll
@solemn magnet I'm not sure, I know a lot of people have experience slow response time since the Peonpocalypse, so it could be that they're still swamped
crystal flax
@pseudo crane For Alpha 1 you currently can't, you can buy the others in the packages in the shop though
onyx knoll
@pseudo crane https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop you can purchase packs that include access to the alpha 2 or beta
solemn magnet
I see, thanks. I know that they're high on tickets atm but .. 14 days without a response is pretty hefty imho
onyx knoll
yeah :/
steady ocean
One of the issues is that people are submitting multiple tickets because they think the support team is ignoring/missed theirs. It just compounds the issue.
desert ivy
Biggest issue is people submitting tickets for dumb shit that can be answered with a Google search
crystal beacon
you guys talking about intrepid studio support ?
onyx knoll
@solemn magnet You could try PMing Margaret or Toast, tho the way they were talking about it the amount of PMs they receive on a daily basis is kinda insane
sharp wing
What was your ticket about @solemn magnet
desert ivy
To be fair he did say he put in the ticket 14 days ago
plucky pawn
Yupyup, our team is currently a bit swamped with the combination of new folks joining our community and entering tickets, alongside other folks getting set up for upcoming testing! The response time is a bit longer than usual right now as a result, but feel free to send me further details so I can see if it's something I can assist you with
onyx knoll
@solemn magnet
tranquil torrent
Can a single person be a mayor of a metropolis AND the king of a castle at the same time?
desert ivy
Yes because they're not connected
crystal beacon
can you hop servers?
slow meadow
no
crystal beacon
so ideally if you are from europe you choose that right?
i am used to world hopping like osrs
ruby swift
They don't want world hopping. There will be no server transfer in the beginning, and later it would be a paid option with a long cooldown and restrictions on what goes with you as to progression and items.
Where you play is a personal choice option. But in games that have pvp, most try to get the location that affords them the least latency.
onyx knoll
Plus, the servers will have a time based on the server prime time during which sieges will happen, so if you're in EU on an NA server the sieges might end up being in the middle of the night for you:/
crystal beacon
yes very true that makes sense
I am hearing that a nodes type, whether the node is militaristic, economic, etc is predetermined. Is that true? I'm hoping its not because then that will force people who want a economic node to play in a specific spot right? i mean what if i want to play in a grassland but that area doesn't have the node type I want.
i was just thinking that
thats good
dapper chasm
Jahlon stream today? 😁
crystal beacon
and can you be part of more than 1 node?
and what makes you part of a node if it is the case
slow meadow
you can only be a citizen of one node.
steady ocean
You can own property on multiple nodes, but only be a citizen of 1 node @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
and how about visiting other nodes? how does that work? i mean will you be able to visit the whole world?
onyx knoll
you can visit anywhere
steady ocean
yup! So much to explore!
onyx knoll
being a citizen of a node doesn't block you from entering an other
Unless you're at war with them I suppose
onyx knoll
nodes are just a way do describe a zone
If you're inside a node, you can just wander out and enter a different one
if you mean as a citizen, you can switch citizenship to a different node on a 2 week cooldown
dusk relic
we going to get a castle underground *) ?
?
dont you need citizenship befor housing?
onyx knoll
no, you need a house to become a citizen
dusk relic
oO
onyx knoll
you can have a house in multiple nodes but can only be citizen in one
steady ocean
@dusk relic You have to own property to become a citizen. That means static housing, a freehold, or an instanced apartment if that node's mayor built apartment housing
dusk relic
can i go to war with a node i have a house in
onyx knoll
Pretty sure you can, yes
tulip hatch
citizenship is what matters, you can have multiple housing across different nodes but that doesnt make you a citizen of all those nodes
reef osprey
@dusk relic the secret is to sell your mansion of some sweet gold before declaring the siege
dusk relic
so if i have a house in a node and if im apart of seige on the town can i go in and out of my house to kill players
dreamy mural
Will Paladins be able to do meaningful healing? Archeage had a million class combos but the game didn't support hybrid stats so you healed for nothing, how does it work here?
hasty osprey
Will there be a way to hide cloak and helm in game?
abstract mountain
Hi, ive got one question
I heard in an interview that pvp is going to be balanced around group combat and not 1v1 situations, wont that be bad for arenas?
cobalt ore
Question regarding death: Do you always drop items on death? Or is that only when dying to another player? Also, am I correct in saying that the other death penalties are item durability loss and xp debt?
onyx knoll
@dusk relic mount speed also varies based on how your mount was bred
dusk relic
o ok thanks
umbral fulcrum
If a player was elected Mayor and quits the game would that territory be temporarily set back or is there some form of mitigation in place for player attrition in these situations?
dusk relic
vote for flying caravans lol
onyx knoll
@umbral fulcrum currently there is nothing set in place for getting rid of an elected mayor before their term ends, so you'd have a boring month in that node
ruby swift
@umbral fulcrum Nope, basically you are screwed till next election.
umbral fulcrum
Right on, what's the time between elections?
onyx knoll
If they see that it's a big problem during testing then they might add something
one month
ruby swift
1 irl month
onyx knoll
new election every month
ruby swift
Oh wait, not irl
umbral fulcrum
no worries, I'm sure it'll be few and far between
cobalt ore
I imagine any way to mitigate missing mayors would lead to griefing good mayors
umbral fulcrum
What if a Mayor knows he's quitting? Can he delegate his powers or offer up a new election?
onyx knoll
Currently there is no delegation of power
umbral fulcrum
WTB Power of Attorney
low orchid
Perhaps if the mayor was banned for gold buying, the GMs could force a new election right then and there, not to punish the citizens
tulip hatch
This is probably a better question for the next livestream Q&A at the end of the month
dusk relic
but then youll have everyone saying the mayors selling gold when hes not
tulip hatch
you can still post your question, the thread is made a week before the stream
umbral fulcrum
right on
cobalt ore
New to the community so sorry if this info is out there already. What is the tentative timeline for the beginning of the alpha 1 and 2 tests?
tulip hatch
Alpha 1 in the fall/end of fall
No ETA for Alpha 2
onyx knoll
@cobalt ore alpha 1 sometime this fall, that's all we have
cobalt ore
Cool, thanks!
potent thunderBOT
tight skiff
Will the game be translated to Spanish?
crystal flax
People setting custom statuses on Discord
tulip hatch
^
storm raptor
ohty ❤️
tulip hatch
Thats not currently intended Klipaz but is a possibility based on demand from that region
ruby swift
@tight skiff https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions
onyx knoll
@storm raptor (you can tell that status is fake because the name of the game isn't in bold 🙂 )
fringe stump
wild marsh
FYI NA isn't just United States (which would be US) It includes ... Mexico, and Canada. Mexica is Spanish speaking 🙂 Just throwing that out there as you both used the term region which there is in fact a region that has a primary language of Spanish.
ruby swift
Yeah, but we don't count them.
onyx knoll
As a Canadian, I'm used to Americans thinking the North American region is basically just them 😛
hahaha
shut up, pants!
onyx knoll
@glass flint the archetypes will all be released during alpha 1 as it progresses, the full classes won't be until alpha 2
oh i guess we might get blog previews
tulip hatch
I use region in the much broader term to state a different area
My statement remains true, if there is enough support from that region(area) then intrepid will support it
onyx knoll
let's be real, the only reason they're translating to french/german/russian is because the EU laws are forcing them to if they want to publish there. Everything else will come after because they don't HAVE to 😛
ruby swift
No, the reason they are is because those are the languages My.Games promised.
umbral fulcrum
Its inefficient and time consuming to translate across languages without a viable player base.
sullen shale
So this is probably a frequently asked question but do we have approximate beta and release dates?
thx
onyx knoll
@sullen shale tldr; no, we only know alpha 1 will be sometime this fall, everything else is a guess
sullen shale
Ok, and do we have any idea about the build of the classes like their current skills and stuff
onyx knoll
we have some skills for some of the archetypes, but we should be getting the full list as alpha 1 progresses. Full classes with the secondary archetypes won't be for some time yet
you can see what we do have here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Skills
sullen shale
i think imma go check out the wiki intstead of bugging you anymore
Ok then, so there is going to be naval combat right? Do we know what thats going to be like
vocal jolt
do we know when Tulnar will be getting any asset designs? So far all we have on the wiki is silhouettes
crystal flax
Those silhouettes are also scrapped, so we currently have nothing to go off
vocal jolt
oh! even better lol
ive been staring at them for days and trying to decipher the possible appearances XD
crystal flax
I believe in an interview with Jahlon, Steven mentioned they were redesigning them
reef osprey
@vocal jolt no infos on naval combat yet, i'd expect it to be archeage like, considering thats the game that inspired it
vocal jolt
@sullen shale ^
vocal jolt
I was just curious about Tulnar. I hope they are still sliders for how beast, reptile, etc
I thought one design from the now scrapped silhouettes looked spider like and I was getting super into the idea of a spider Tulnar that masters animal husbandry
vocal jolt
do we know if there is a system in place to prevent mayors from griefing? like, someone just takes the mayoral position and puts max taxes, builds nothing, and does nothing? then repeats?
I could see that being something that happens sadly
nocturne thunder
they wouldn't get re-elected
or people would simply move elsewhere if it's like a military node where he keeps winning the mayoral contest or w;e
vocal jolt
ok
keen cliff
And they can't rob the coffer, so I guess they dont achieve anything.
vocal jolt
other than bleed players of tax money and time
nocturne thunder
they screw their own node. Actually sounds like a viable strategy to screw your competition, EVE style. infiltrate the enemy node
take control, let it die.
vocal jolt
what is the freehold system like? are they available to all players? is it first come first serve? does it cost gold/money?
i would imagine it has to be fair to get since that is where you do a lot of the artisan work
sinful echo
leveling will be quest based or grind based?
nocturne thunder
from what we know so far, it allows you to claim an area of the map as your own. You need a certificate from the node where you are trying to place a freehold, and there are a few rules regarding placement
sinful echo
there ain't no both bro
desert ivy
Corrupt Mayors can easily get reelected tbh, obviously not in scientific nodes but the other ones are possible
nocturne thunder
it's available to anyone, and it costs said certificate. the number of freeholds that can be build is limited but this limit increases as the node levels up
sullen shale
So whats the point of ships? What should encourage someone to go buy or build a ship and sail the high seas?
sinful echo
hmm
nocturne thunder
yeah @desert ivy they can buy their way in or keep winning pvp contests
desert ivy
Or just complete more quests than everyone else for the divine nodes
nocturne thunder
no idea how religious nodes will work, probably some MLM-style thing
opal cedar
how long do the pre orders last till?
nocturne thunder
now that's just a missed opportunity if its quest based. should be a battle of religion
my jesus is stronger than your jesus
boring :c
lean current
four node types for four types of players
nocturne thunder
also, love your videos where you go through the letters and dev stuff @simple ether . havent seen them in a while tho
probably youtube shenanigans not showing me
found it, thanks
how long do the pre orders last till?
@opal cedar likely until the game releases, though they change the pre order bonuses every month or so
gotta cash on that fomo
plush tinsel
you paradox gaming network? @simple ether
opal cedar
i thought i remember them saying that it might end after next month i believe? i just dont like this months skin pack so im waiting to seee if i can wait till next month
nocturne thunder
i thought i remember them saying that it might end after next month i believe? i just dont like this months skin pack so im waiting to seee if i can wait till next month
@opal cedar they probably meant the items currently included in the pre-order, not the pre-order itself
dusk relic
to travel to an island is a boat needed? or can u swin to it
cost of boat out way a caravan? if a caravan turns into a boat will it be cheaper to buy a caravan and put one stone in it then u have a boat if u go near water?
sullen shale
Oh yeah so can caravans be boats and go overseas?
Cause I mean, That would be a whole new industry if so
sullen shale
oooooo fun
Also when raiding caravan if done succesfully, does one take money that would be equal to the total amount of profit? or are there other factors that come into play
small yarrow
If anyone had a guess; I loved the warrior priest class in Warhammer Online. What two class/archetypes would you combine to get something close to that? Being able to heal while dealing damage was the perfect class for me. I loved it. I would think Cleric -> Fighter but does anyone know more?
sullen shale
the class grid says a Tank -> Cleric makes a paladin
crystal beacon
Does this game have day and night time?
sullen shale
Oh and Cleric -> Fighter makes a templar @small yarrow
nocturne thunder
if its damage+healing likely a fighter + cleric or vice-versa
stoic ridge
Hi. How are you this evening ? Just a short questions. Is there an official folder / gallery or so to use grafics / videos for a own hp?
small yarrow
@sullen shale Thats what I think. With the main role of the warrior priest was healing. I think it would be Cleric -> Fighter which I believes makes a Templar
stoic ridge
Thanks for your help
small yarrow
being healing*
nocturne thunder
what do you mean by a own hp @stoic ridge ?
sullen shale
Yea guid if healing comes first then definitely a templar which is a cleric -> fighter
stoic ridge
what do you mean by a own hp @stoic ridge ?
@nocturne thunder creating own content
To build a hp with AoC as topic.
Don’t want to break some copyrights
nocturne thunder
not sure there is a media kit, skilfin. Tho @plucky pawn might know
this will vary from country to country but if you link the images to the source and credit them properly, you probably wont face any copyright tissues
plucky pawn
If there was something in particular you'd like to use and you weren't sure, I'd recommend reaching out to @tight gale directly - but as others noted, if you're just utilizing our existing stuff we've shared, as long as it's clear where the content originally came from, that's fine
stoic ridge
Thanks for your fast answer and help @plucky pawn @nocturne thunder
nocturne thunder
np. if you need info on the game directly, be sure to check out the community wiki (a lot of the media is also available there): https://ashesofcreation.wiki
stoic ridge
np. if you need info on the game directly, be sure to check out the community wiki (a lot of the media is also available there): https://ashesofcreation.wiki
@nocturne thunder ty. Have a nice evening 🙂
spring axle
I had a question - will you be able to turn gold you earn into currency for the in-game cosmetic shop
steady ocean
The in-game currency shop will use embers, which you can purchase with real world cash (or intrepid bucks). At this time, I do not believe you can use in-game currency. @spring axle
spring axle
@steady ocean thanks for the info 🙂
nocturne thunder
yeah, not that I'm aware
dusk relic
they said gold will have nothing to do with real world money no paid towin
nocturne thunder
I think he meant the other way around (gold becoming embers), which wouldnt constitue p2w anyway
spiral pine
What is the character limit for one account?
full badger
We don't know yet
grizzled latch
A comfortable ammount is the official answer
spiral pine
Dang okay
grizzled latch
Since they don't want people buying (having to buy) a 2nd account id imagine at least 8 on a server so you could play all the archetypes. Otherwise that would convince alot of people that a 2nd account is nessisary, which is borderline p2w.
With the multiboxing stance they are not exactly encouraging it
arctic sky
You can have second account without multiboxing
nocturne thunder
^
multiboxing refers to a very specific use of multiple accounts
not simply having them
grizzled latch
I realize that, but as the polls clearly show a good 40%+ of the players do not understand that concept. 70% don't realize the diffrence between multiboxing with/without scripts. Further discussions should go to discussions though.
Sorry, edited my original response to make what I was saying clearer.
spring axle
btw when i asked my currency question i meant gold to embers ---- i know the other way around would be pay to win
crystal beacon
Will bard subclass mean I'll have to play an instrument? could I turn any class into a support/buff class by subclassing bard?
nocturne thunder
@grizzled latch you do realize you dont HAVE to buy another account if you cant make all base archetypes in a single one right xD
@crystal beacon
grizzled latch
My answer made that pretty clear...
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon As far as we know musical instruments are not weapons, chances are some of your skills as Bard might summon some tho. As for if you can turn any other archetype in a support by using bard as a secondary, that's kinda impossible to say at the moment since we don't have the list of how secondaries will affect primaries. We know that you won't get any new skills from a secondary, but a bard augments could make it so you do aoe buffs or debuffs with your primary's skills, we don't know
Also, weapons are not archetype-locked so you can use any weapon on any class
broken granite
a question: why the The Boons of the Waveborn packages arent located in my shop? only individuals cosmetics are (Berylscale Band, Shoreside Shack, etc).
Am I checking the wrong place? Or need to upgrade something?
onyx knoll
@broken granite did you purchase a pack in the past?
If so, then you can only buy the cosmetics of the same tier as the pack you bought, if you want the higher tier ones you'll need to upgrade your pack
nocturne thunder
other than the subscription fee :p
onyx knoll
@broken granite https://www.ashes101.com/store
grizzled latch
With ks you wont see the package deals
broken granite
not the packages
nocturne thunder
@grizzled latch your point relies on assumptions that weren't made. You say they dont want people buying a 2nd account, which they havent mentioned. You say not having 8 character slots would convince people they need a second account which, again, we have no data to back that statement. Then you say thatd make the game pay to win which it...doesnt? If classes are properly balanced it doesnt matter if you need more than one account to have all archetypes, you arent winning anything. If they arent properly balanced, nothing is stopping you from deleting a character and playing the fotm.
grizzled latch
Bobs gonna answer pvt because that isn't question channel appropriate
broken granite
Which should be an option
@simple ether oh tks, yes they are. The next is pioneer i think
anywhere where i can check what my KS package delivers? i forgot and in my AoC profile it dont say what are the contents
only KS link?
@simple ether
onyx knoll
broken granite
@onyx knoll tks
I was unsure if i had name reservation, but i checked that i don have it
@simple ether my shop items will expire someday? (except for the renewing cosmetics like the Boons of the Waveborn)
steady ocean
You could upgrade if you just really wanted the name reserveration and wanted to pay the difference @broken granite
broken granite
@steady ocean yea, i am thinking to upgrade to Pioneer
steady ocean
None of your items expire
grizzled latch
Some might be consumed, like monster tokens but any cosmetics are permanent
broken granite
@simple ether missing no, i was asking if something will expire with time
I have the "The Boons of the Waveborn", "All Inclusive Summer Bundle - Add On" items and KS Upgrades.
Everyone has these "Inclusive Summer Bundle" items?
steady ocean
Anyone with that tier of pack or higher for the kickstarter/summer backer bundles.
broken granite
oh, so its a KS exclusive
west turtle
Will we be able to poo in game like in ark?
west turtle
you dont know that.
onyx knoll
we do know that catually
west turtle
no u dont
thorn wing
So in my FreeHold it said you could have a tavern/bar or something. what are the limits as to what you can build?
onyx knoll
steady ocean
how many building spaces you have in your freehold, which is likely tied to the stage of the node it is tied to.
thorn wing
but are there like other limits besides space?
steady ocean
The types of buildings in the game itself
thorn wing
ok. so any building that fits you can do?
steady ocean
As far as we know. It isn't based on your race or class.
thorn wing
alright... can you build siege weapons in your freehold?
steady ocean
It's possible, but we will have to wait and see once the Alpha phases are released if that will be in the game
thorn wing
ok. also aside from node sieges are there ways players can destroy your freehold?
hexed canyon
If you have a node on a island how does freehold system work with them? Is the claimable space just limited or can you build floating freeholds or elevated freeholds?
onyx knoll
mh, good question, you can try submitting it to the next Q&A
unborn breach
Is there any link in that goes in-depth on every race?
nocturne thunder
@thorn wing freeholds can only be destroyed after a successful siege
no way else
thorn wing
nice
nocturne thunder
tho I do believe there might be another way, if they end up going through with node develing from atrophy
grizzled latch
Node atrophy from a technical standpoint is looking like node destruction, deleveling would be very difficult to implement
That would make your freehold disappear if it didn't fall into zoi of another node
nocturne thunder
if a node delevels and your freehold falls on the zone of influence of a node below stage 3, your freehold would be destroyed
i mean theyre still working on that system so we dont know whatll happen
the implementation seems pretty hard though, what with all the things influenced by node stages
grizzled latch
one of the video interviews steven said he wants deleveling but it comes with a lot of technical difficulties to implement corretly
nocturne thunder
imagine losing your home because the bastards on the nearby city couldnt be bothered to take care of their stuff
grizzled latch
Its probably going to be a group decision to suicide, i don't see a node just lacking the popularity to survive
glass flint
I can't wait to see the character creation. I wana see if it has POC hairstyles lol
fathom ravine
Hello, will there be a Spanish translation?
unborn breach
How many nodes does a world have?
high ledge
over 100 i think
unborn breach
Oh wow
arctic sky
Only a few can max
surreal elk
103 possible nodes
arctic sky
They lock out the ones around it
unborn breach
So 100/10000 can become like leaders??
steady ocean
108 people technically including guild leaders, out of 50k per server yes.
unborn breach
Thats rlly fascinating
I can see streamers etc being that and maybe some populair players
arctic sky
Please look at the nodes wiki
steady ocean
All types will have a chance for sure.
onyx knoll
@fathom ravine if there is enough interest for it they will consider it, it's not one of the confirmed languages atm
steady ocean
It is @onyx knoll It will be in the second wave of translations.
steady ocean
Italian/Polish/Spanish in the second wave @fathom ravine
fathom ravine
@fathom ravine if there is enough interest for it they will consider it, it's not one of the confirmed languages atm
@onyx knoll Thanks for answering
Italian/Polish/Spanish in the second wave @fathom ravine
@steady ocean wooooo thanks for the info
nocturne thunder
theres a team working on the wiki translation for spanish though, so there's that at least.
magic harness
is it currently planned for the respawn timer on resources to be increased based on their tier?
for example a new iron ore node will randomly respawn in the area 5 minutes after one is gathered compared to mythril which would have a 50 minute respawn timer
steady ocean
@magic harness Something along those lines. You can read more here. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Resources
magic harness
ahh i did read that all it said was they would have timers but not in increasing order based on tier
onyx knoll
that's probably a good question to try to ask in the next Q&A 🙂
magic harness
ty
silent pilot
Will the classes that have the opportunity to reach high places and attack from a distance have a huge advantage against classes that do not have the opportunity to climb those places?
half apex
It will definitely a thing in siege but it's normal. Idk if the mage teleport or it's secondary augment let you hop on buildings though
onyx knoll
I assume if you're a ranged character and you manage to sneak up on someone that focuses on melee while having a hard to reach high ground, yes you'd be at a big advantage
that being said, every class can use a bow, so it's not like they'll be 100% unable to do something
silent pilot
That sounds great!
limber prawn
Does anyone know if there is a discord for players interested in roleplaying in Ashes of Creation?
onyx knoll
You might want to try #aoc-guild-chat
limber prawn
I'll try that. Thank you.
frozen dune
With how the profession system works, will you be able to master both armor smithing and blacksmithing since they both fall under "Crafting"?
onyx knoll
yes
you will be able to master more then 1 job in a branch (gathering/processing/crafting), you won't be able to master ALL but at least mroe then 1, we don't have an exact number
@crystal beacon 🤔 have you tried playing the game? just a thought
molten arch
A classic trololol
nocturne thunder
you might wanna try BDO or any generic mobile game @crystal beacon might fit your playstyle (or lack thereof) better
gleaming bridge
When you walk around the world will each node tell you what type it is on the map or something like that?
nocturne thunder
we don't quite know how the information will be relayed to us @gleaming bridge , we can only hope it is in a clear way
we'll probably have a better idea once A1 begins
indigo lotus
kinda obvious question, but now that I think about it ... is there gonna be a mini map?
onyx knoll
@gleaming bridge no the map won't show you this sort of info. You won't know what type of node it is until it levels to at least rank 1. Then, the NPC that spawns will show you what kind of node it is. So a religious node would spawn a lot of priest NPCs etc
@indigo lotus yes
half apex
I think you can simply tell by the type of the guard. Even at tier 0 you recognise the node by looking at it's ppl. Priest, merchants etc have their unique look. So once the node is upgraded, the logic behind it shouldn't change that much
onyx knoll
Pretty sure there are no people at rank 0, it's wilderness
half apex
But you understood where i wanted to get with it?
onyx knoll
Yes, it's what I said just before you 😛
half apex
You were faster that's all.
onyx knoll
haha
gleaming bridge
I'm just trying to find an econ node far from the gate lol
onyx knoll
As far as we know, the map won't change from alpha to launch, so if you keep an eye out on the progress of the alpha 2 persistent servers you might be able to figure out a good spot that suits you
gleaming bridge
🙏
dusk relic
mayor exp bar for node?
onyx knoll
I don't think mayors will get experience specific to their post, there are other systems that have their own xp/progression tho, like bounty hunters and probably naval stuff, but I don't think it's the case for mayors
stone nexus
I've got a question about combat. Will it be a fluid system like Elder Scrolls Online where I look at what i want to target?
arctic sky
Combat system is no where finished we can only say it will be hybrid with 75/25 ratio of your choice action or tab
stone nexus
hmmm what's that mean? Are there any links i read up on or do i just have to be patient and wait. Really excited about this game and having smoothing action based targeting is a big one for me
gleaming bridge
So you'll have choices for skills. Some being tab target and auto hit skills, some being skill shots that require aim. It's up to you
stone nexus
also, just want to give a big thank you to everyone who is part of this game. It's coming along beautifully
thank you all
dusk relic
family teleport 30mins or 12 hours?
dusk relic
?
scarlet tusk
how will the cash shop affect the visual progression of characters?
jaunty gazelle
for me it should be 1 or 2 hours cd and people in your family circle can't be part of other circle
cd shared between summoner and summonee
arctic sky
@scarlet tusk clarify question please
west copper
Will the currency in the game have multiple stages as in the case of WoW(bronze,silver,gold, etc.)?
dusk relic
yes
torpid tangle
Are the current races the only ones that they plan to have in game?
west copper
Well with the addition of tulnar yes
dusk relic
9 racers u want more from a start?
torpid tangle
nah was wondering if they were gonna add more later
dusk relic
o
torpid tangle
would love to see a demon race or something more spooky
west copper
Maybe
torpid tangle
need me a black and red race
fair yew
I doubt they will have a playable demon race. The Kickstarter high backers have angel and demon racial skins. There may be some npc angel and demons
junior pagoda
I could maybe see an exorcism ability or something that makes you look spooky.
be kinda cool to do some death metal demonic shout.
uncut perch
Will there be any negatives to people who play pure crafter/gatherers rather then focusing on leveling quick?
arctic sky
Dying in pvp trying to gather and caravan escort deaths
trim moon
@uncut perch Leveling your adventurer class and your artisan class are different. I believe their intent is to have different progression paths for your character.
So you can likely focus on artisanship and not worry about being "underleveled" in that sense, because the artisan class is not dependent on your adventurer class
uncut perch
Oh thats awesome thank god lmao
trim moon
That has some speculation to it, of course, but this appears to be the general direction
night thorn
artisans jobs are not hollow in this game they actually have merit
raw gyro
about artisan classes. i wanna go with cooking. it was mentioned that you would need a oven to cook up those recipes with real benefit? any idear if i could get the same benefit just with a campfire or fire pit when travelling between nodes?
signal quartz
reef dagger
@raw gyro that was specifically mentioned to be a bonus to the buff and would require a cooking station within a home or freehold so I would wager no you would not be able to get the same benefit with a campfire however you will still be able to make meals that give benefits
raw gyro
ah understandable. better equipment = better benefits. i'm glad theirs gonna be some positive if i'm just cooking with campfire. thanks!
rough sage
what i didnt figured out is.
he mentioned you can only be master in 1 crafting skill.
did he mean 1 crafting skill in every 3 categories
harvest produce craft or realy only 1
so if i want to be a crafter i need to get the high lvl iron bars from someone who is master in smelting and he need to get the best of the best iron ores from a miner?
or did he mean that i can go miner smelter and blacksmith and only need other players for other high tear jobs?
hollow gorge
He meant 1 crafting path
So gathering, processing, or crafting
So in your case yes if you want to be a master blacksmith
You need to find a master processor, that can provide you with good quality iron bars
And that master processor needs fo find a master miner that can provide good quality iron ore
Even if you master blacksmithing, because siege crafting is in the same path, you can also master that
There will be a limit to how much skills in a path you can master however. We just don't know the limit yet
rough sage
ah thats realy nice so noone can get everything he needs for himself wo be a master. casual you can craft everything but to get the best items its cool to need others :D.
thanks for awnser
wild marsh
Will the currency in the game have multiple stages as in the case of WoW(bronze,silver,gold, etc.)?
@west copper The actual answer thus far is no. The currency system is a singular one just called gold. @dusk relic https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Template:Currency
upbeat jolt
ruby swift
@wild marsh There will however be specific token like currency related to various activities and social organizations, but as you said the main currency for regular transactions is gold.
odd goblet
quick question probably extremly basic but i cant figure it out, the races, will they have 2 teams like horde and allance in wow or will they all be able to interact with eachother, and if they dont, how will pvp be decided, by objective? as in some ppl want to distroy a city others have build so u either help defend or help destroy?
stone walrus
quick question probably extremly basic but i cant figure it out, the races, will they have 2 teams like horde and allance in wow or will they all be able to interact with eachother, and if they dont, how will pvp be decided, by objective? as in some ppl want to distroy a city others have build so u either help defend or help destroy?
@odd goblet there are no factions, conflicts are entirely player driven, for more pvp info https://ashes101.com/pvp
wild marsh
@odd goblet There will not be factions. However npcs and thigns like that will talk to you differently based on your race.
stone walrus
yes
wild marsh
Yes from what I've gathered it will just be just for the flavor of the game.
odd goblet
ok tyvm
steel heath
Guildmanagement question - will there be anyrights to funds or able to set customizable rights on chest/loot that everyone in the guild can grab ?
reef dagger
@steel heath My best guess currently (correct me anyone if I’m wrong) would be yes since they have the system in place for players and housing/free holds storage then it would also apply to guilds
stone walrus
i doubt its been said but does anyone know when the cut off date for upgrading your kickstarter package is ?
@crystal beacon we will get a notification several weeks in advance, there haven't been one yet
crude hearth
Has there been any mention what racial benefits will exist?
Or maybe advantages/disadvantages
frozen tartan
race will have different stats + a racial augment + building skins + racial appearance on their equipable items
gritty dawn
Hiya, Quick questions
whats the difference between these two sites?
you can buy all sorts of stuff on this one
and also on this one
unreal zealot
bottom one is EU site that isnt working properly atm
unreal zealot
and i think those cosmetics are out of date on eu one
gritty dawn
ooh okai
unreal zealot
no you can buy on NA site and transfer the account to eu later
gritty dawn
ooh okai! awesome thanks 🙂
frozen tartan
@gritty dawn i'd advise you to buy on the USA website as you'll be able to buy future cosmetics and transfer your account later
gritty dawn
ooh okai thanks 🙂
abstract geyser
is it possible to own land on like an island or something?
frozen tartan
If the conditions are met
spiral pine
Why is dungeons called Donjons
frozen tartan
I would think it is because the wiki tried to translate to my language
spiral pine
Kinda funny
abstract mountain
Can you still participate in the kickstarter and get those rewards?
hazy furnace
There's also ashes101.com
frozen tartan
the KS campaign ended in 2017 or 2018 so you can't participate anymore
abstract mountain
Sad 🙃
frozen tartan
but you can buy some pack with a couple of cosmetics on the website : https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
Please note that the reward change every month and will be gone for good
abstract mountain
During the Alpha and Beta will players have to pay subscription or will it be "f2p"
?
hazy furnace
Get the big one now and then I can buy other cosmetics as add on as months progress if I'm understanding?
onyx knoll
@abstract mountain no subs during alpha or beta
abstract mountain
Thx
hazy furnace
Ty
steel vessel
If I buy a lower level pre-order package, can I then upgrade it to higher level? For example Wayfarer -> Voyager?
lime kayak
marsh crane
Hey guys! While playing will it be possible to differenciate the diferent types of nodes during the early stages? Will the map show this info by default?
gleaming bridge
I think as soon as a node hits stage 1 it's NPCs will be based on the node type (priests, soldiers, ect.)
Stage one happening within a few hrs
But also by the time game launches there will most likely be fan made maps to show the locations of specific nodes
marsh crane
Hmm i see.
onyx knoll
@marsh crane The actual in-game map will not be showing much information, from what we know. Steven said he wanted people to have to communicate discoveries so even dungeon entrances won't be on the map. As Draco says, the nodes will reveal what type they are at rank 1 (rank 0 being only wilderness), when NPCs start showing up. So for example, a religious type node might have a lot of priest NPCs.
We do know that every server will have the same starting map, with every nodes being in the same spot and the same type, and as far as we know the alpha map will also be the same, so during alpha 2 people will be able to determine the location of a lot of the nodes
unreal zealot
people will make their own maps for their own servers and update accordingly i would imagine via discord servers/ etc
marsh crane
Sounds good! Alot of exploration to be made!
onyx knoll
indeed!
oak barn
bottom one is EU site that isnt working properly atm
@unreal zealot I read that steven was pushing for an update for the end of the month regarding the EU situation so yeah we can only hope it means it will be back online
Don't ffeel like paying to play on the NA Server with 200 ping
unreal zealot
you can buy on NA site and still play EU servers it isnt reigon locked i believe its just atm the website and purchasing on eu side has been down for a long time now (doesnt bode well for my.games) but hopefully we get good news at the end of the month
oak barn
Yep and if transfering is free you win 7 euros by buying the voyager pack with dollars 1st cuz 250 $ = 212 euros and on the eu site is 219.99 €
Stonks
oak barn
OH shit really?
unreal zealot
yeh
ruby swift
lol...you all need to research better. If you play on EU servers you will be locked to My.Games. You would need a separate account to play on NA. Once you transfer you are theirs.
Users who wish to progress in different regions can opt to have two (or more) accounts.[4]
There may be a restriction on the number of migrations that can be done for an account.[4]
oak barn
Yeah we get that part
we were talking about the whole EU site being down and buying from NA IS site and going to EU after
ruby swift
Yep, it was the statement of not being region locked. You are indeed region locked once you transfer.
unreal zealot
i mean that counters what ive seen being said tbh, seems like theres some conflicting info out there or im jsut not understanding it very well. so this means you cant play na with out a second account for ashes if yourfirst accoutn is eu?
oak barn
Yep, it was the statement of not being region locked. You are indeed region locked once you transfer.
@ruby swift Gotcha
ruby swift
@unreal zealot Ths is indeed what it means. They have talked about that restriction a few times and clarified things. But let me get you a link, cause people like links.
reef osprey
@ruby swift i prefer rechts
ruby swift
Some people prefer patties over links too.
twilit pagoda
I'm new to this game so i apologise if the answers to my questions are already out there but i'm really excited for the potential of this game.
Q: What kind of interactions can happen between neighboring cities? (Trade,War,alliances)
Q: is there a setting when becoming a mayor to disable Those interaction (Most importantly war as not everybody likes pvp)
Q: Will you be able to found your own religion in game or are you limited to presets?
ruby swift
- There are extensive interactions that can occur between nodes in the realm of diplomacy planned.
onyx knoll
You cannot found a custom religion, you will be limited to the lore-established pantheon
ruby swift
- Nodes can be sieged by those that complete the declaration banner. Node wars have different rules, are objective based, and whether one side can refuse (like a duel) is unknown.
3
ocean sandal
If I recall correctly. there are either 5 or 6 religions
ruby swift
Ooops.
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_governments
7 religions, 6 regular ones + 1 tulnar, at least last I heard
ruby swift
Hit return. The religion system is under construction and all previous info should be taken lightly.
onyx knoll
yeah
loud lantern
will the subscription have any pause option? or will it that when you order you pay no mater if you will play 1 hour, or 540 hours?
ruby swift
No pause, but you can go monthly
loud lantern
I speak about single month
ruby swift
Think of it as more going to a movie theater than Netflix. If you get up to take a piss in the middle of a movie, they don't pause it for you.
onyx knoll
Yes, you can do single month sub, then pause for a few months and do an other month
loud lantern
I was not in theatre since basic scool, and that is one of the reasons
onyx knoll
But you can't pause it after a day
twilit pagoda
is there a way to turn off elections? say if you wanted to build a small city with friends without being flooded by randoms who take over
ruby swift
No, all servers use the same rulesets.
twilit pagoda
that sucks
heavy cradle
There’s no custom servers planned, this isn’t rust/Minecraft style.
onyx knoll
sorry, it's an MMO not a small co-op game :/ you'll have to fight for yor stuff if you want to make it your guild's only
desert ivy
You don't "build" your own city anyway
ruby swift
This is not Dark and Light, 7DTD, Atlas, or Ark that allows private servers through Nitrado.
desert ivy
Cities aren't a private thing
near horizon
if you kill everyone that enters it's private
desert ivy
heavy cradle
near horizon
imagine a metropolis defended by a massive mercenary guild and no one is allowed in
twilit pagoda
do you think most cities will be kill on sight then? as most people will want to keep their stuff
ruby swift
No, because of how corruption and declaring someone an enemy of the node works. It will be infrequent at best.
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda I doubt it, but it's possible some really motivated people try. They'll alienate a lot of people and end up having wars declared on them from pissed people tho lol
ruby swift
But this becomes more of an esoteric discussion rather than basic info provided.
twilit pagoda
any info on how to declare an enemy of the node? could i get 30 people together and kick out any mayor?
onyx knoll
yeah, it'll really depend from server to server on the players, we can't say
ruby swift
The mayor can declare individuals enemies of the state. There is an exponentially increasing gold cost to the action that limits it.
loud lantern
https://intrepidstudios.com/careers#gameplay-engineer-generalist so this is the only way to not pay subscription if I will not be using it 😦
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda only the leader of the node can declare someone as an enemy of the state, and it cannot be one of their citizen. There is currently no way to force out a mayor once they've been elected other then waiting for the new election (once per month)
twilit pagoda
so could you potentially bring enough people so the mayor couldnt vote you out anymore due to not having enough gold and vote him out? (zerg rush
desert ivy
Can only vote mayors out of a Scientific node
Rest are done differently
But you can't "vote mayors out"
ruby swift
There are many plans being hatched by people about how to remove/block/gain mayors. Will need to see how it all works during testing.
twilit pagoda
i thought mayors were based on election sorry. How would you change mayor in the other situations?
desert ivy
Each month for Scientific nodes, a new election is held with anyone being able to become the new mayor with enough votes
onyx knoll
@loud lantern I'm not sure what you're talking about
desert ivy
Military = Combat, winner becomes mayor
Economic = Highest bidder
Divine = Most service quests completed
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mayors#Node_elections
ruby swift
He is saying that if he gets a job an Intrepid he could play for free.
twilit pagoda
do you get to chose the type of node or is it done automatically?
ruby swift
Problem is, he would probably be too busy to play much.
desert ivy
Auto
You can choose to go be a citizen of a certain type of node, but the nodes themselves are pre-determined
loud lantern
I can not imagine paying every month same big amount of money for service I may or may not use that month
onyx knoll
Yeah well, if your goal is to play for free i'm not sure being an employee is the best way to go about it considering Steven forbade all employees from being part of a guild, which cuts you off from a lot of stuff imo
twilit pagoda
is there anything from stopping you from running a town for a month then running with all the goods at the end?
ruby swift
Yes, many people would like to be able to pay per minute. Sadly, that is not an option here and won't be.
steady ocean
@twilit pagoda The town's treasury isn't accessible. You can only use the funds to build stuff
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda You can't take money out of the coffers as a mayor
steady ocean
Good morning everyone 🙂
ruby swift
Morning TSG.
twilit pagoda
Is there a limit to your personal gold? if not why would you use a town treasury?
onyx knoll
@loud lantern Unfortunatly that's the payment system they chose to go with. It's something a lot of very successful MMOs have done (WoW, FFXIV), so they're confident it'll work well. If you don't think you'll play enough to justify the cost that's a fair worry, it might just not be the game for you 😦
@twilit pagoda town treasury is where the taxes go. We don't know yet what the player personal gold cap will be
ruby swift
You do not put gold in the bank. Currency has no weight. It is not lootable. You will carry it on you.
The town treasury is built through taxes.
loud lantern
🤔 why would being in guild be of any significance? I never been part of any guild with more that 5 peaople.
well that payment system maybe work in some countries but definitly not here 😦
I played WoW only on free servers
twilit pagoda
so the only way to put gold into the treasury is through taxes?
you couldnt fund a small town on your own?
ruby swift
@loud lantern Yes, that may be the case for you. Intrepid realizes that some people may not like their monetization plans. Those people are free to find experiences that match their needs.
reef osprey
@twilit pagoda you can put the tax onto 100%
ruby swift
Currently.
desert ivy
Not gonna lie, if you're not into the social aspects of MMOs such as guilds, Ashes may not be for you
twilit pagoda
that doesnt really answer my question warth but thanks for the info
loud lantern
I never been to other countries so I can not imagine how could someone spend half of their money on game every month
desert ivy
I mean, probably because a lot of people make the sub fee per month in an hour of work
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda The town will fund itself to a certain degree as the node levels. You won't be able to get a node to rank 3(village) if you are the ONLY one contributing, or at least not in a reasonable amount of time, but the chances of that happening are incredibly low. You'd have to have a pretty dead server. So basically as long as the node develops then the town will get bigger without any input from the mayors. The fund are for things like additional buildings, better deffenses etc
ruby swift
This is more of a discussion instead of a question. If you have issues with the monetization, please utilize the forums to leave suggestions.
onyx knoll
@loud lantern Yeah :/ In canada the minimum wage is 11.75$/hour, and the sub is 15$/month...
twilit pagoda
so you wouldnt be able to act as a king or lord of the are and use funding from other cities to create smaller towns in undeveloped lands?
ruby swift
No
But you will be able to trade and develop relations with those you prefer over others.
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda I recommend you read up on nodes, and watch some videos about it https://www.ashes101.com/nodes.html
We can be here all day explaining stuff, it's a very complex system xD
loud lantern
that is over 12 times more than I get in my first job, well that explains how people can ignore that big price 😦
twilit pagoda
yeah im just getting answers to questions i couldnt find
onyx knoll
@loud lantern They have mentioned that they will be doing some price harmonization for countries that can't afford those kind of prices, I'm not sure where you're from but you might get an option to pay like 5$/month eventually
or some other number, just giving an example
twilit pagoda
Is it worth exploring at all? so far it seems like sticking to a town and picking on lower level players that arrive is the way to develop
ruby swift
Yes, there will be progression and rewards tied to exploration.
twilit pagoda
Would those rewards help your town? or are they only beneficial to single players
ruby swift
Some achievements could be put into the towns reliquary. Too little information right now to answer definitely.
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda Yes, it'll absolutely be worth exploring. First, a lot of dungeons and open world bosses will only spawn once certain nodes reach a certain point so if that's not close to your you might need to move around for those. Next, if you're a gatherer, resources spawn all around the world, you won't get a lot of wood if you're in the artic or mountains. There will also be quests and missions that send you to other nodes
rotund herald
i read earlier that there is an EU shop can someone send me the link to it i wanna do some checking 
onyx knoll
@rotund herald EU shop currently isn't working properly but you can find it here: https://aocreation.com/en
rotund herald
Thanks 🙂
twilit pagoda
Do you get access to those dungeons if you are a citizen to a different node?
onyx knoll
yes, most dungeons are open-world and not instanced. They're like... extra zones that open up when the requirements are met
twilit pagoda
How often can these dunegeons be looted? because if its to often you wouldnt really want to explore and just farm the same one many times
rotund herald
Another question, im the kind of person who plays on both servers EU and NA how will this affect me with like preorder stuff and gameplay wise if you know 🙂
onyx knoll
we don't know yet if there will be loot-locking
rare apex
are freeholds in many varieties or is it one type of freehold per race?
twilit pagoda
thats a shame
onyx knoll
@rotund herald You'll need to have two different accounts and pay for two different subs :/
@rare apex Freeholds can have skins applied to them so they'll come in all sort of varieties, by default I believe you have a visual for each race
twilit pagoda
Thank you for all the information. it doesnt seem like i would enjoy the game with the information i have recieved but will keep an eye on development
onyx knoll
That's alright, it's not for everyone ^^ Please do keep an eye on it, it'll be easier to understand once we know more and get closer to launch!
twilit pagoda
Sorry one last question. Is there anywhere i can find the lead developers ideal finished game? like i want it resemble real life with magic/i want it to be a very heavy pvp game
iron lava
Does pre-ordering guarantee a spot in Beta, or does it just enter you into a raffle?
onyx knoll
@iron lava guaranteed
untold belfry
@twilit pagoda they have a youtube channel with monthly live streams amd AMAs
onyx knoll
@twilit pagoda Mhh, I'm not sure if something like that was ever posted in just one spot, I'd say any interview with Steven can give you an idea of the philosophy they have
twilit pagoda
ooh could i get a dm for a link to the channel please
twilit pagoda
Thank you!
onyx knoll
np ^^
little stream
is the game going to be free 2 play ?
onyx knoll
no, it'll be a monthly sub with no extra cost. So you don't need to pay for the base game or any of the future expansions, but you'll need to pay monthly
lofty star
alpha 2 starts sometime next year?
full badger
alpha 2 starts sometime next year?
@lofty star most likely
untold belfry
Maybe
onyx knoll
probably, we don't have a date
lofty star
and as of right now it is impossible to play alpha 1 unless you backed the game sometime ago?
untold belfry
Correct, as of right now.
onyx knoll
correct. They said they MIGHT re-open the sales for it if the servers are stable enough to allow more people and they decide they could use more folks to test things, but it's not guaranteed
lofty star
i bought one of the packages and was curious thanks
lapis sonnet
So a question about summoners as they are basically a “pet class” to an extent. The types of pets (skeletons etc) that you can summon depends on your second archetype? Like if I was a necromancer I’d summon undead but if I was a falconer I’d summon like eagles and falcons and stuff like that?
onyx knoll
yes, except flaconers are rangers, it would be beastmaster for summoner 😛
we don't have a ton of details on summoner yet tho
but basically yeah they'll be the pet class, and their pets will get different kind of abilities based on the augments from your secondary
lapis sonnet
Lol. I thought the class was a summoner ranger =falconer...didn’t know if they’d still actually be able to summon animals
onyx knoll
ranger primary with summoner secondary is the falconer
so falconers will have ranger skills with summoner augments on those skills
oblique igloo
Will we be able to marry our family members?
onyx knoll
chances are their falcon won't be a permanant summon, but something that shows up for a bit when they use skills
lapis sonnet
Oh...ok, have to go back over the chart. 64 in the span of like 30 mins will mess with a memory. Just thought of the question on lunch.
onyx knoll
@oblique igloo you can get married, doesn't have to be someone in you family
oblique igloo
I know but will we be able to marry someone in our family
lapis sonnet
@oblique igloo heck I hope not XD
onyx knoll
I would assume so
onyx knoll
families are more like.. your closest friends
oblique igloo
Friends?
onyx knoll
then actual blood relations rofl
oblique igloo
Whats that you speak of
lapis sonnet
Idk I play the game with my irl mom...if she’s in my family there and was marriage involved that’s kinda awkward.
onyx knoll
servants*
oblique igloo
Silentstar you are required to marry your mother
lapis sonnet
@oblique igloo Lol nope not gonna happen.
onyx knoll
it's just optional content, no one's forcing you to marry your mom's character 🙄
lapis sonnet
Lol thank God. I’m sure my gf would be rather annoyed
onyx knoll
not that we're aware of
families are just a term for a group of 8 people that have certain special perks like the summons
oblique igloo
I see
onyx knoll
don't think of it as a RL family
lapis sonnet
Nice lol.
oblique igloo
I wonder if the summon thing will be abused
Because i would assume families will all be in the same guild
dim shuttle
Guys this is the questions channel, move it to #aoc-discussion
oblique igloo
Lol cypher you arent a mod?
onyx knoll
I'm sure people will try to find ways to abuse the summon, feel free to discuss all the possible ways you could do so with others in the proper channesl so that we can test them during alpha 🙂
dim shuttle
Aight bet, get ready for a mod to come in and repeat what I just said
onyx knoll
you don't need to be a mod to remind people of the rules 🙂 they should be followed even when mods aren't necessarily paying close attention
onyx knoll
we try to direct people to the discussion channel when the questions are answered and then it turns to a discussion, don't take it personnal ^^
stable plover
Questions channel is mainly intended for just questions and factual answers, discussions that follow on from the answers should move to a discussion channel.
fringe stump
about preorders packs, ive preordered the voyager plus package yesterday, after checking the packages from before, I cant deny this one looks a bit dull but well , is there any possibilities we can get parts from other packs later on , as someone who preordered a package and is able to play beta etc ?
onyx knoll
@fringe stump Yes, you'll be able to purchase the cosmetics seperatly and individually up to the tier you own
dim shuttle
If you own a pack you can purchase individual cosmetics of future packs
onyx knoll
fringe stump
onyx knoll
You can see the usual prices for each tier of items here
they can vary a bit but in general it's around that
fringe stump
👌
onyx knoll
That being said, you can't puchase anything for PREVIOUS packages, just future ones
fringe stump
ive seen some mounts that are god tier
onyx knoll
Those you've seen are gone forever
fringe stump
yeah, its alright, now only need to hope some great stuff comes out
onyx knoll
Yep ^^
fringe stump
yeah thats a shame but its fine I guess, mybad for being late
grim pike
Have they announced the character naming rules(I.E. Spaces or special characters)?
fringe stump
since the game wont be released for a while, well see a lot more packages so its 👌
dim shuttle
onyx knoll
@grim pike all we know so far is that the minimum length is 3 characters, no other rules have been shared
grim pike
I hope they allow spaces, ESO has them and it has been liberating.
I'm such a prick, forgot to thank you two for the quick responses. Thanks.
onyx knoll
haha, you're very welcome ^^
spiral pine
We have seen names with spaces already
urban stratus
When you buy cosmetic packs, do you need to play the race the armor/set is intended for or can you use it on any race?
onyx knoll
@urban stratus no, the costumes will fit every race
urban stratus
Nice, thx
onyx knoll
@spiral pine Oh? I must have missed it, do you remember in which video?
spiral pine
So Steven has his name and last name a username
onyx knoll
Does he?
slow meadow
@onyx knoll we know at least one space is permitted because you have access to an optional surname. Beyond that I don't know of any details about spaces within a first or last name.
onyx knoll
in the 4K one it's just Steven
spiral pine
in the March dev update
spiral pine
No he has a space in the march one
slow meadow
here you go, for the surname
onyx knoll
Yes, but this says you can display your first OR last name, so it's unclear if it'll show both with a space in between
spiral pine
Thats probably what the vid in march shows
onyx knoll
Mhh, I'm looking through the March dev update footage, gime a minute
slow meadow
onyx knoll
So far all I've seen is just 1 name with no space
vernal swallow
Will there be a money lending feature in the game?
slow meadow
I dont think thats a space either
actually maybe it is. on the other piece of UI it looks like it might be
onyx knoll
@vernal swallow You can trade gold, but I don't think there has been mention of a money lending feature that is baked into the game. Steven has even said that he thinks people getting scammed should be part of the game (as long as it's not by using cheats)
vernal swallow
@vernal swallow You can trade gold, but I don't think there has been mention of a money lending feature that is baked into the game. Steven has even said that he thinks people getting scammed should be part of the game (as long as it's not by using cheats)
@onyx knoll Steven wants his game to be realistically tough, eh? 😅
Well bring it on then 😉
spiral pine
👍
onyx knoll
right there
"I am Steven Sharif. SPACE, space Sharif"
I'm not sure we can count this as a for sure confirmation, but it's looking good for having a space in your name 😉
vernal swallow
I'm not sure we can count this as a for sure confirmation, but it's looking good for having a space in your name 😉
@onyx knoll keep in mind that this is not the final product
onyx knoll
yeah for sure
hence why i'm saying we probably can't count it as a for sure confirmation 😛
onyx knoll
So they can show both at once? the wiki seemed to say you would pick either or
oblique igloo
Will there the gunpowder?
onyx knoll
@tight skiff we don't have the prices yet for the harmonization, so we can't say for sure
@oblique igloo I don't believe so
drowsy hawk
When is the name reservation thing happening?
onyx knoll
@drowsy hawk last we heard :
drowsy hawk
Ok and did they explain how it will work?
untold schooner
can we swap armor gear sets on the fly when your not in combat?
unreal zealot
its jsut voyager plus that gets the name reservation or the voyager pack as well?
heady flare
Name reservations were rewards for backing at the Pioneer level and higher and are currently available through the Voyager plus pre-order pack.[1][2]
upper musk
yeah if you look at the things, you get an in game item called name reservation token
you also get server registration during the beta, so you can keep a spot on a certain server for yourself
it's interesting
lost sentinel
Ah, so names are unique to a server and not globally unique?
onyx knoll
yes
lost sentinel
That's definitely going to cause issues with server mergers down the line.
manic solstice
just don't name legolas
unreal zealot
also if i came to server mergers it might be first one to log in after the merger on a set time gets to keep their name and the other has to change or its just first name is same last name is different ?
broken granite
Beta players will choose a name after Alpha ends?
desert ivy
No, because beta players don't have the name reservation perk
Beta players will make their name once the game launches
desert ivy
Then they will pick a name after everyone else from kickstarter
broken granite
Pionner is a KS package
desert ivy
Yes...
I'm saying they will pick one after the higher tiers pick theirs
Since Pioneer is a lower backer, they will be one of the last to pick from the kickstarters
oblique moon
WHen does alpha 2 start?
manic solstice
after alpha 1
onyx knoll
we don't have a date for alpha 2
oblique moon
Thank you.
broken granite
@desert ivy so, having the pioneer KS pkg, when I will choose my name? During Beta launch or Alpha? I got confused
Srry
broken granite
Oh
broken granite
@desert ivy ok tks 👍
past folio
Everything from Alpha 1 & 2 is being wiped
So you might not be able to do it until Beta
desert ivy
I mean, betas are also wiped
spark spoke
any word when the server events will happen? I think I heard some start at 3 pm for their local time, but that seems early even for myself. Also, will the server events have different times on the weekend?
desert ivy
Them wiping progress during testing doesn't affect people being able to reserve names for launch
past folio
Well, your name has to be reserved with a toon, right?
slow meadow
@spark spoke It will be during "prime time" for that servers timezone. what that means is up to interpretation at this point since Intrepid haven't specified beyond that.
spark spoke
ok cool. I work 630 am to 330 pm and when I heard start at 3 pm I was like damn
jolly estuary
@idle siren do you think that augments will affect noncombat/utility spells like the rouges ability to find doors, or mages thing that lets them see hidden terrain?
steady ocean
@spark spoke What do you mean by server events? Pvp sieges? Or do you mean world boss events and other PVE events?
spark spoke
the pvp sieges and other events in the AMA video that was posted.
crystal beacon
How would the tavern restaurant work? (Would you have pay to get in or will there be a menu and they can purchase food)?
steady ocean
The devs have talked about you going in and being able to order food and drink, and being able to play games of chance
crystal beacon
Niiiice.. THANKS JAHLON! love your vids 🙂
steady ocean
You can run the tavern on your freehold as the owner, and you may be able to hire NPCs to serve food/drinks as well. Additionally, for those that bought food/drink, you may receive a buff if you stay within the tavern/freeholds Zone of Influence. Some really cool ideas being thrown around by the devs https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Taverns
crystal beacon
That is awesome
hasty stag
wow nice
faint wasp
Will it only be games of chance, or skill based like checkers, chess etc?
radiant shale
I'd consider all of this speculation/intentions as the game is still so far away from an actual launch. They're still going to do a lot of testing to see how to best implement what they want to implement. This type of very specific detail on how exactly they're going to implement things is probably going to go through a lot of interations and stuff
steady ocean
@faint wasp
radiant shale
oh it was in the kickstarter so in that case yea, probably going to be implemented, nvm :3
faint wasp
@steady ocean Thank you
near horizon
we are gonna have gambling
near horizon
I mean, that's not what that message says
faint wasp
Wouldn't betting in game stuff only be allowed though? I didn't think the gambling laws applied if there wasn't some relation to real money being used
near horizon
message says gambling
faint wasp
Unless they aim for an under 18 age rating I guess
desert ivy
Nope. FF14 also had to remove in-game currency gambling because of EU laws I'm pretty sure. Jahlon knows more about that tho @simple ether
unreal zealot
wouldnt GTA Have to do that as well tho?
desert ivy
GTA is an 18+ game
unreal zealot
true xD
hushed scarab
Credit card is required to play tho..?
faint wasp
Parents can pay for kids
unreal zealot
if there was a card game like gwent or somthing in ashes i dont think i would leave the taverns xD
faint wasp
There are children games you need a credit card for, many games cost money in general which young children don't have, yet many games are made specifically for young children, so that is no argument
A quick google search gave me nothing on age rating, so have they mentioned anything about what age rating they aim for in ashes of creation?
primal delta
I am trying to understand why people want gambling in a MMORPG. There are numerous other internet games that fill this void. Can someone explain?
Lol thx?
faint wasp
I don't want gambling, so much as betting, I don't want to put my money on random chance, but I do want the option to bet money on a skill based outcome
Makes it more exciting if I can lose half my cash if I fail a game, than if I lose, well only time.
Half my in game cash that is
boreal abyss
Can just choose to not play games of chance
But keep channel to Questions and Answers only
(There's a reason the channel is named questions)
unkempt orchid
Any one know if there will be a shape-shifting class at all?
boreal abyss
None
unreal zealot
not right now maybe in the future expansions?
unkempt orchid
Thats a mild discomfort
steady ocean
they've talked about expansions and DLCs, so time will tell
unkempt orchid
It would be cool if the added lycopanth
pseudo nest
i mean there is a furry race so who knows
unreal zealot
i hope they add a vampire vs werewolves kind of thing even it its cosmetic only
next locust
a question about the democratic mayor vote: once a mayor is elected, is that a definitive month and the mayor has no worries for an entire month of getting overthrown?
desert ivy
They're not going to add anything new to the game before launch. They want to avoid scope creep.
unkempt orchid
I want more like were bear or even shape shifting in to animals I always have loved my druids and shape shifters
desert ivy
Maybe 5 years down the line you'll get a shapeshifter, but classes are way harder to add into Ashes compared to other games
boreal abyss
@unkempt orchid
unkempt orchid
Thank you all for the info
unreal zealot
if they add druids i hope it will be more traditional celtic druids than the "classic" dnd druids
boreal abyss
But keep channel to Questions and Answers only
(There's a reason the channel is named questions)
young wind
When is the next AoC Apocalypse event?
kind vapor
Please use the channel for what it's meant for, which is Q & A and not discussions or opinions
stable plover
@young wind The next APOC test is supposed to be sometime after the official launch of A1 (so probably next year sometime)
crystal beacon
Do herb and ore nodes spawn randomly in the world or will they always spawn in the same spot?