Have they done a ninja themed cosmetic package yet?
#questions
pseudo bay
surreal ravine
thatd be dope
weak mantle
did they ever add magic resist stats yet?
hollow gorge
iirc it's dependent on the armor
brittle ferry
No? Or unknown
hollow gorge
leather = more magic resistance compared to plate armor = physical resistance
it was said in one of the interviews with the streamer I don't recall who
weak mantle
hmm
hollow gorge
if you're talking on augment/enchantment there has been no mention of increasing or showing a flat magic resist number that can be added to an armor
brittle ferry
Add magic resist stats, we don't know the stats of anything, honestly
jade sun
will items created with siegecrafting (or whatever it's called) have use outside of node and castle sieges? might there even be items for use outside of those, such as a landmine that freezes a caravan in place for a short duration?
low lantern
I’d assume they would only be for sieges but time will tell, I don’t think we have the details on that yet
grizzled latch
Pretty sure Steven said somewhere that enchantment will cover situational weak spots, like you can enchant your weapon to do holy/light damage instead of fire. It would make sense if this was also applied to armor. Maybe not have alot of general magic resist but have the ability to have a set of fire resist gear or the like.
lavish yew
How will the game fair for solo players, duo players or small groups of players? Will we be dead in the water without joining a guild, or are we still able to compete at a top end level by having different gameplay styles and taking part in different activities? For instance, can a solo player that spends most their time ganking still thrive? The family grouping sounds interesting, what is the player number cap for a family? ty
full badger
short answer, we don't know
boreal quartz
Having a guild is a big part of this game
grizzled latch
This is an MMO so the likelihood of solo play getting you to endgame gear is pretty low
You can probably get to max level but without allies you won't be getting the rare mats to craft top end gear
lavish yew
ok, so it's really targeting the raid crowd..?
full badger
it's an mmorpg, emphasis on MMO
grizzled latch
Not specifically raid, but group content
full badger
forget everything you now about mmorpgs from games like WoW, ESO and FFXIV
grizzled latch
Raid content isn't 100% the end goal, there are end game 8 man dungeons that will exist too
lavish yew
ok ty
fickle island
They've also said master crafters will be able to craft gear on par with raid level gear. So theres a chance to go that route too
grizzled latch
@fickle island , thats using high end mats which unless you buy them you won't get as a solo player
fickle island
You never know. They implied you could do it. It seems like they're trying to keep the crafting not reliant on raids like other mmos
crystal beacon
they've already said that the legendary craftable gear on par with legendary gear drops come from the legendary world bosses
it's a small chance for a completed item to drop, and a larger chance for a mat to drop
grizzled latch
They said that the raids won't be the only place to get complete endgame gear, as in i need to kill this boss for this chest piece. Instead they drop ingredients to be crafted into the gear of choice
Thats how crafting is staying relevant, not if I go mining for a few hours i can get gear equal to what a raid could get me.
crystal beacon
i meant to throw the word mat into my first sentence, but yeah
oak knot
Say you have a house in a node that's destroyed by siege. I understand you can lose the unprocessed items from that home, but what happens to the home itself? I'm not clear on what happens to the node when it's defeated. Does it instantly go back to a 0 node?
hollow gorge
the house is destroyed
the node goes back to level 0
and you get a saved template of your furniture layout
upper musk
from what I've seen yeah, if your node gets beat it goes to 0
hollow gorge
sent to your mail
oak knot
Wow, that's pretty intense.
upper musk
you lose a decent amount if you're based in that node too
hollow gorge
that you can just print onto your new house
oak knot
Thanks guys
hollow gorge
its intense but I feel like
upper musk
but destroying nodes is the only way to get other content too
so it kind of forces peeps in the server to attack nodes of peeps
it'll be fun
hollow gorge
the group destroying said node has to invest an equally large amount of resources to just destroy said node
oak knot
Can you destroy a freehold?
hollow gorge
after a node is destroyed
a freehold can be destroyed in a 2 hour timespan
you can also defend your freehold
if your freehold is destroyed, you lose your unprocessed materials
but template of your freehold with your furniture and completed items will be mailed to you
that's some of what I remember from Steven's interview
not sure if I covered all of it
oh
oak knot
You're doing gods work answering these rookie questions in here. Thanks.
hollow gorge
your unprocessed materials can be raided by the attackers if you fail to defend it
rotund flume
So, in order for your node to grow to the last level, you must de-level every surrounding nodes, did I get that right? In that case, wouldn't it be a huge pain for landlocked nodes that ends up surrounded by last-level nodes, compared to costal nodes? Won't then costal nodes be stronger by default, or is there any balance about it?
hollow gorge
I believe you only de-level the highest node in your surrounding to get your node to the highest level
Let me look for someone's rendition on node's zone of influence
I don't believe there is information on the advantage/disadvantage of coastal and landlock nodes
but this is how the zone of influence works on the wiki
oh wait
low lantern
@rotund flume depends what lvl your node is, if it’s 4 then you’d have to take out the adjacent 5 node then the 6 th
hollow gorge
"The territory expansion algorithm takes into account the nearest coast, neighboring nodes, and the heatmap of the players in surrounding areas over the last week of months" so maybe there is a way they balanced the coastal/land nodes
rotund flume
I'm taking no chances. When the game comes out, I'll become part of a coastal node 
sly rampart
is this game playable or its still under development ?
past pewter
it's in pre-alpha @sly rampart
grizzled latch
When a freehold gets "destroyed"/looted if the zoi is taken over by another lvl 3+ node is the freehold spot free to be claimed by anyone or does the original owner get to just repair/rebuild?
ruby swift
If it is destroyed it isn't there?
grizzled latch
Not playable at the moment, streaming should* occur this year of alpha 1
Does it actually get destroyed?
ruby swift
The statement we have on destroyed is that it is mailed to you along with your setup, so yeah, going with gone.
Would have to go to the new node that the zoi falls under probably to get the permission to place it again.
If it survives the after siege party, then it would persist unless the zoi shrank.
grizzled latch
That makes a fairly good incentive to loot certain freeholds then. Open up a better spot to set yourself up.
ruby swift
True, would turn it into a race again. Cause so far the system outlined is at level 3 you need to buy a certificate from the controlling node to get permission to place. So if your old node goes poof, and your freehold destroyed, you are going to have to figure out which one is in control and then get permission again. We know that ZOI and node borders are not going to be displayed on the map, so could be interesting.
hollow gorge
hopefully it tells us the node we need to go to for permission
ruby swift
Yeah, like you try to place it and says "Invalid placement, you must have permission for X node to place."
grizzled latch
By the time we get to that point it won't surprise me of there is an interactive map that shows you the zoi of diffrent nodes at diffrent stages (player made)
ruby swift
But that is not known yet.
upper musk
but there can be 5 at max node size on the map right?
ruby swift
More discussion than answer. Right now they said they don't want it displayed.
grizzled latch
Has there been word if we will keep map coordinates?
upper musk
I remember them saying that the 5 castle owners and the 5 max sized nodes will be the ones that get the flying mounts
for their leaders
and that 10 should be the upper limit for that
I think that pic was just a single node set up
ruby swift
Nope, map stuff is planned, but was pulled for release. Might be part of the scribe profession and a future update. Remember the map rooms from The Mighty Bard? On hold as creep.
grizzled latch
10 is the min probably, there will be a few temporary ones in circulation from world bosses and such
upper musk
do you guys think the different mayor elections are going to cause server drama?
grizzled latch
cloud nymph
@upper musk not really
heady ocean
will nodes give different resources depending on what race has more contribuition? for example if pyrai has contributed the most will there be more wood nodes?
following that thought
hollow gorge
race contribution results on how the node will look
I believe node resources is dependent on the area the node is in
heady ocean
so would for example a pyrai city look good on a deset node?
hollow gorge
that I do not know
heady ocean
i think it could work if the city itself had trees behind it, i came up with these questions when looking at the race cities images
indigo steeple
i still dont know how animal breeding works
hollow gorge
Me too
ruby swift
So when a mommy animal and a daddy animal love each other very much, the daddy........
hollow gorge
I want more details but all I have is speculations
but according to the wiki
Monster A + Monster B = Does it work? No then replace said a monster
Monster A + Monster C = Works and gives Monster D
Monster D gets specific dominant trait from Monster A and Monster C
what are those traits? You're meant to explore it
upper musk
I know there's certain color variants too
it's a pretty in depth husbandry system according to what I've seen
hollow gorge
I love it
reef osprey
@hollow gorge we won't explore anything.
By the time launch comes around we will have an exact List of all combinations with all traits through a spreadsheet.
Explorative Professions don't work, unless you cap the amount of information players can get in the Alphas
upper musk
I don't think it will be by launch
ruby swift
More discussion than questions. You know the drill people.
hollow gorge
if that's the case I don't know if I'll enjoy the profession as much
upper musk
at some point just like all mmos it'll be a spreadsheet, but if it's 270 hours estimate to hit max level, I'd say no way it's spreadsheeted by launch
not to mention they will likely keep adding more things and caps
boreal quartz
I expect constant content updates.
buoyant sapphire
Based on the way they've defined their business model, I'd definitely expect constant content updates
ruby swift
Content updates are meant to be monthly with a larger quarterly update is what has been said.
heady ocean
will the Packs you buy in store provide beta keys for friends?
ruby swift
So far that option has not been available. Since it was limited to higher level Kickstarter packages, probably not.
winged sparrow
will alpha 1 feature castle siege and/or node siege?
upper musk
I read castle siege will be out after alpha 1
ruby swift
Testing plans change.
ocean sun
Is this tab or action combat?
dull ruin
hybrid combat
hollow gorge
75% of either
crystal beacon
both
wild marsh
It is mixed. You can chose what you'd like to have more or less of
digital yacht
U cannot have 100% of one or the either but up to 75% of one
buoyant sapphire
So if you want an action combat playstyle, you can dump your build points into skills that encourage action combat, and though you'll still have a few that are based on tab targeting you can probably find a few you want anyways.
You'll be able to customize the game style for each character
elder sky
Cant wait to see more of this sell alpha 1 again
ocean sun
Hmm so eso-ish?
ruby swift
Yep. Numbers are for example only. If you had 100 SP, you could put 75 into action and 25 into tab. Or 50 into each or any mix. Just not over 75% into one.
ocean sun
That’s what’s up It seems pretty interesting
elder sky
Rogue ranger let me throw daggers in peoples eyes
ruby swift
We have not seen the rogue archetype skills yet. So.......maybe?
rigid zodiac
why is the main thing the devs are releasing to us is concept art?
isn't concept art the typa thing that is done years before gameplay is made
ruby swift
full badger
@rigid zodiac everything starts with concept art
rigid zodiac
seems like gameplay is well on its way to being made, why not show all of that?
ruby swift
We have seen plenty of the concept art realized in game.
elder sky
Because you don't show the full product if there is too much time or bugs in between
Delutes the hype
rigid zodiac
sure, just the 1 hour gameplay live stream seemed very polished
but have yet to see much more gameplay, just concept art
elder sky
Not full obviously but even more info
ruby swift
There is a give and take to open development that Steven has gone over. At a certain point they will rip the band aid off. (this fall actually) and let people see the A1. And there will be a small subset of people that just don't get that it is an alpha product and will REEEEE to the high heavens what a piece of shit Ashes is. The longer that is delayed the better imo.
rigid zodiac
i can get behind that @ruby swift
elder sky
Now they accrued a decent following it is something to be vigilant of
upper musk
they already released gathering/a1 gameplay
ruby swift
This influx of new eyes on the project was not planned for this point of development. Just a happy, lucky viral moment with TheLazyPeon video getting as much streamer play as it did. Over one million Youtube views and climbing. That Steven was on the ball and able to give interviews during the big streamer reaction videos made it insane.
upper musk
people were going REE in full effect from the BR
they legit started accusing the whole game of being a scam
twas a crazy time
full badger
Be content with what you have been given. Intrepid are giving us glimpses into a part of development rarely shown to the players. Most games aren't even announced at this stage, let alone any kind of gameplay shown off
upper musk
so I think the a1 nda finally ending will do nothing but make people become optimistic
thin spear
is it possible that alpha 2 will playable in 2021?
full badger
no official date for alpha 2 yet, but next year seems likely
ruby swift
You get a bad haircut. You know it is a bad haircut, but as it grows you will look awesome down the line. But people telling you how shitty your haircut is still hurts even if you laugh it off. The trick is developing that thick skin to not give a shit, or at least appear to. True Alpha game reveals are the same. Steven just needs to insulate the team from those that want to crouch over and take a massive shit into the punchbowl.
faint plover
Will be some stream today?
crystal beacon
Hi.. is that game will be available to download on Sep 24? Or prior?
hollow gorge
September 24th 2022 maybe
wild marsh
Unless you have alpha 1 then I doubt it.
ruby swift
Streams are usually last Friday of the month. We may get some extra content towards the last couple weeks due to testing.
crystal beacon
Oh Ok then it's a long wait to enjoy nodes system
buoyant sapphire
Dumb question, but will it be possible to transfer items from one character to another?
on the same account, I mean
ruby swift
On same account yes, if you are talking about skins. If you are talking about in game items then yes too.
wild marsh
Yes it will, armor I know for a fact but I'm pretty sure steven said that it will be decently easy.
ruby swift
There is player to player trading, just not account items like skins.
buoyant sapphire
Works for me. Thank you.
ruby swift
For same account you will use the warehousing system
for items
There is no item mailing in game for players.
buoyant sapphire
Well that just makes sense. if there was you could set up supply chains made strictly of players sending mail to each other, and that's not cool in a game where caravans are meant to be a big system
ruby swift
Yep, they got it locked down. You will be able to gear your alts, but they will need to be local to you.
grizzled latch
When a siege is declared moving things out of storage is limited/ stopped. Is moving things into storage still an option at that point?
I'd hate to have to stop farming because a siege is a week away and I can't store my goods anywhere.
wild marsh
"Once a siege is declared, players are prohibited from moving goods out of depositories within the node" Because of this wording I'm assuming you can still move goods in 🙂
indigo obsidian
The crafted weapons or armor will have different stats ? I mean that if you make 10 weapons with the same same all of them will have different stats
reef osprey
@indigo obsidian yes, you will have wheels and kogs where you as a crafter can exactly define what kind of stats you want on your item
increasing the fire resistance, might for example decrease the cold resistance etc.
it might also depend on the materials you use
ember crow
Will there be mounted combat? ; And also will their be jousting? ; I think it'd be prty cool if guilds could do mounted tactics when fighting another force, it would add a whole new dynamic to the game. Admittingly a bit hard to balance potentially.
reef osprey
@ember crow mounts will have different abilities, that might also affect combat
anythign along the lines of true mounted combat was not confirmed though
lime kayak
mkay I have a question, I am adult with a job and passionate gamer. From the info I have seen so far, the game caters to that with major PvP events being in server prime time
How about PvE though? Will raid bosses spawn around prime time too or im out of luck here?
reef osprey
@lime kayak we don't have a lot of information on that
Raid bosses have not been specified yet.
lime kayak
Well it was aimed at Steven! 
reef osprey
Devs don't often look into this channel (usually)
these questions might be better placed on the QnA threads in the forum and reddit leading up to a livestream
@lime kayak
ruby swift
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merry acorn
@lime kayak well tbh Within PVE 80% of PVE content is open world with 20% instanced and all dungeons and raid stuff will be shown within the world as nodes develop and they will just pop out of the ground and grow as the node progresses Not sure if the Dungeons avaliable will be the "raids" or the Raids are what will be in the instanced But they will Grow in dificulty and scale up with how good u destroy the bosses
ruby swift
@ember crow There will not be mounted combat. Though mounts will have combat abilities.
merry acorn
Like PVP mounts 😉
ruby swift
Regular players have two "slots" available. One cosmetic pet, and the other slot is combat pet, or mount, or mule. Those in slot two have combat abilities while summoned. So while you won't be jousting, your bear, for example may have a swipe that it does. Combat pets, mounts and mules also have a levelling system, so there may be a way to add more abilities, though that has not been confirmed. Summoners get a third slot. Which is where their summons will go.
feral cloud
uh, I'm gonna miss GW2 style mounts.
sacred rune
With the skins on all these founder packs.. Are they only for founder packs? Or will they make an appearance in the cash shop at launch/some time after?
wild marsh
@sacred rune Any skin you see pre-release will be exclusive. There may be something that looks half similar in the future but it won't be the exact same thing.
sterile fjord
Was there already some "Skullish summoner" kinda style ? because thats waht i kinda waiting for
sacred rune
3+ years of heaps of cosmetics not many will end up with o.o would hope some stuff is reused
ruby swift
We were told "Buy now or lose out! One and done!" so if they were to re-release skins they would get huge blowback from exactly the people that buy that product. Not a good plan.
wild marsh
@sacred rune Those skins, though purchases are limited. Funds the game a lot more than people might think. They may spend $1000 on the man power to make the skin, but at $25 per after the 40th purchase it's pure profit at that point. If even 10% of the just the kickstarter backers buys a that skin it's a $47,940 profit.
ruby swift
sacred rune
I know the margins and stuff but it is still a fair bit of next-to-wasted content. And by reused I meant reskinned or whatever, as you put it in your first response.
ruby swift
You will see close in game, but not exact. The otter was given as an example. Not that shade of purple and that barding would not be available. There will be tons of ways to customize.
merry acorn
I hope breeding will have ark like colors with how they can be super random
warm cobalt
@buoyant sapphire They said almost all items will be free of any Soulbound/BoE/BoP, so expect that you can transfer away.
ruby swift
I believe it was Margaret in a stream. I would look at the otter reveal stream, since that would make the most sense.
crystal beacon
But they only showed the package one, no?
I mean, did they confirm that we will get pretty same mount skins just with different color
ruby swift
We are talking about account bound skins though.
Or was that in response to something else?
drowsy storm
heyo, just wondering: are adventure paths limited to apoc?
im seeing a lot of mention on the wiki of apoc having adventure paths, but i havent noticed anything excluding it post-release
onyx knoll
@drowsy storm Yes, the battle pass "adventure path" is an APOC only reward that was made to thank the people testing the game
it won't be part of the full release
winter flame
So, with the state that Blizzard is in with their disgruntled employees being underpaid in the industry does Intrepid Studios plan on capitalizing on this opportunity to fill some employment gaps?
unreal zealot
anyones free to apply for the jobs they have posted but i think steven said at some point that he's looking for people with the same vision as his team
onyx knoll
@winter flame They are currently recruiting for various positions which you can see here https://intrepidstudios.com/careers
If they get anyone from Blizzard will be up to the people working there.
unreal zealot
which is why they probably only employed 7 our of 24 job postings so far ofc the pandemic doesnt help either
ionic arch
Did they ever say if we're going to have battlegrounds that are focused on 1v1's or smallscale?
onyx knoll
@ionic arch yes there will be 1s, 3s, and 5s arenas
grizzled latch
Not 8s?
ionic arch
just standart arenas with no map interactions? would be interesting to have something new like a moving map with events or stuff
onyx knoll
we don't have that kind of detail yet
night vessel
Is there gonna be a dual spec option?
Its a useful feature it makes you more flexible for different scenarios
brazen narwhal
Multiple streamers have referred to "Ranger" as "Archer". This seams at odds with the ability of every Archetype to equip any gear. Is there the possibility of a melee Ranger? Similarly, is making a reasonable number of skills non-weapon specific on the Dev radar?
tidal trout
yaa, i feel like its counter-productive to say one could equip anything, but then add gear specific skills to classes...
unreal zealot
they can equip anytihng but races and the main arch type will have bosnus passives i assume to armour types and weapon types
boreal abyss
@night vessel Never, they are going for a "choice matters" route, meaning you have to spend time to respec
night vessel
Alright ty 😊
vital rivet
Can we use one handed weapon or we forced to use dual wield or two handed, like wow or eso?
slow sluice
when does the next pack come out?
sullen sentinel
Beginning of the new month within the first 10 days @slow sluice
main raptor
Fox fails confirmed?
stuck nacelle
Will city/node leadership be able to issue area-wide polls to their citizens (for example to gain information on what kind of building the citizens want constructed)?
Thank you for your answer. I am currently watching ashes 101 and that question just popped up in my head :D
Will naval caravans also be a thing? For trading with other coastal cities and such.
crystal beacon
Ships are a thing
fair yew
There is a difference between a ships and naval caravans
main raptor
Damn that was a foxy fail
fair yew
They would be for large shipments but remember risk vs reward the larger the ship the more likely to be attacked
main raptor
Sounds better to me to have a merchant class ship or mods for galleons that allow you to load the merchant caravan on to move over the ocean.
@simple ether has he indicated whst the naval caravans would look like?
fair yew
There have been some cosmetics for naval caravans in the past
crystal beacon
So i have a question regarding overall gameplay. You can choose on which node you want citizenship, right?
main raptor
Really? I thought those were just galleon cosmetics
fair yew
Generally everyone will have a general racial themed naval caravan
main raptor
@fair yew Galleons are not naval caravans
crystal beacon
So if i choose a military node for example, will i still trade and craft as well? Or will i take a fighting role for the overall game and buy things from traders for example
I am not that into caravan and going long distances with gatherings, can i not do that at all without lack of progress?
main raptor
Depends on what you want to do in the game tbh
crystal beacon
Just general progress with gear etc and be a pvp player mostly
kindred spoke
think it'd be safe to say from mats gathered while adventuring
kindred spoke
^
crystal beacon
But mobs dont drop gold, no?
main raptor
Kill players and take their resources?
kindred spoke
they drop vouchers
slow meadow
Materials stolen from players you killed as well.
crystal beacon
So basically trading to a degree is necessary
kindred spoke
and those vouchers can be sold in town for money... it's more profitable to take them further away, but you will get money for it
crystal beacon
Unless u choose unorthodox ways of getting gold
kindred spoke
to be fair, aren't the richest people in the game usually the ones who trade/buy/play the market or capitalize on certain items?
stuck nacelle
If a mayor is really bad, will the citizens be able to impeach them or will they have to wait for the next election? If impeachment is possible, how wil abuse be prevented (for example troll guilds becoming citizens then impeaching good people)?
main raptor
Trading is a core aspect of a game with a player driven economy so yeah its kind of unavoidable
slow meadow
@crystal beacon you have to sell something to make money. Whether its pelts off of wolves or pvp services. There is no way around that.
dark jungle
@stuck nacelle no impeachment system is planned
kindred spoke
@stuck nacelle you'll have to wait until the term is up then hopefully get someone else in
crystal beacon
Also with the underrealm
They say it is integrated into the open world
Are there like caves in which you access it?
low path
Yes
main raptor
Presumably yes, it has its own nodes
crystal beacon
And can they have metropolis too?
slow meadow
There are openings from the surface. Its been in a couple videos they have shown.
low path
They mentioned it during the 4k video, and then showed it later on with the toxic gas
low path
i havnt heard anything about underground city nodes though
Or underground nodes in general
slow meadow
The underrealm has nodes just the same as the surface
main raptor
There are underrealm nodes and they can become metros
low path
Oh ok
fair yew
They are located in the same place not the same node
crystal beacon
fair yew
If you level the under realm node you won’t level the surface node
crystal beacon
Will it look like this?
low path
The underrealm they showed off so far was not even close to being big enough for a town let alone a metro
slow meadow
@low path the underrealm will be over 100km2 so it will be plenty big enough for metros
main raptor
Thats because so far the alpha 0 is a 4km*4km map not the 5-600 square km map they olan
kindred spoke
with node advancement, you wont know what type of node it is until level 1, yeah?
low path
I thought the surface was planned to be 400 and something km square, thats what's on the wiki
kindred spoke
~480km, yeah
main raptor
@simple ether are node types universal or randomised on each server?
azure panther
Im a little confused about how the nodes work, if you level a node up to max you can be mayor right, but then being king is a separate thing?
main raptor
Interesting
So after alpha 2 and betas we'll already know node types
Very interesting
slow meadow
@azure panther king and queen is associated with owning a castle
low path
@azure panther their are existing castles around the world and then there are nodes that can be levelled to metropolis level
crystal beacon
There are 5 castles, they split the 480 into 5 nodes
unreal zealot
is the under realm going to be a loading screen between it and the surface or is it just gonna be a long trek up and down specific points?
kindred spoke
iirc, theres 5 castles in the world... are they in set locations?
main raptor
No there are 15 castles
low path
No
crystal beacon
Pretty sure only 5
low path
^
slow meadow
@unreal zealot no loading screens
crystal beacon
Wait what
crystal beacon
Why 15 nodes for 5 castles
low path
What is a castle node?
crystal beacon
main raptor
3 nodes oer castle
kindred spoke
okay so essentially 15 locations where the castles could pop up, based on whats going on, correct?
main raptor
Nodes are like fiefs attached to castles
crystal beacon
So is there a difference within the 3 castle nodes
low path
What makes the attached nodes different then regular nodes?
slow meadow
the castles are owned by npcs at the start and are int set locations
main raptor
He should call em fiefs 🤣
crystal beacon
Bro this game is so complex
kindred spoke
good :p lot to do/learn
crystal beacon
But is there like a general planner on what to do each day
kindred spoke
its a sandpark... its up to you
crystal beacon
Remembering all events is a hassle ngl
kindred spoke
as the game develops, im sure there will be resources that mark down timings, events, etc.
slow meadow
Whats available to do each day will be different anyway since its player driven
crystal beacon
Big events have a global chat call
And Steven said he wants people to spread by word for smaller events, right?
This is gonna be cool af
Jahlon, does steven have direct contact with you, besides the video
tawny flame
Yo guys a friend of mine suggest me this game, I don't know anything about it
What this game is about?
low path
Its an mmorpg lol
crystal beacon
Honestly this game is too complex to explain in one sentwnce
I advice reading and watching videos etc
low path
whats thelazypeons video about it @tawny flame
kindred spoke
^
tawny flame
What YouTuber do you suggest watching?
kindred spoke
TheLazyPeon has a very good video describing a lot of what's going on in the game imo
low path
Peons vid is like 30 min long and explains it briefly but well
crystal beacon
Jahlon, asmon, lazypeon
tawny flame
And there are clan/corporation/club and stuff like this?
stuck nacelle
Lazypeon and Jahlon. First one for overview, second for details :D
low path
You mean like a guild?
tawny flame
You mean like a guild?
@low path yeah
crystal beacon
There are guilds and alliances
low path
Ya there is that
i mean there is so much more to the systems than just "a guild" like in any other game
We were just having a conversation about the castles, each castle is run by a presumably large guild and the leader gets to decide a lot about how they run the castle and the area around it
crystal beacon
I am really interested to see how the system between castle, nodes and guilds work
A lot of drama will emerge
crystal beacon
Alpha 1starts in fall this year
You can buy packs for alpha 2
Which starts some months after alpha 1
kindred spoke
yeah, its still gonna be a while before the full launch
low path
Probably 2 years or so
crystal beacon
Full launch 2+years
tawny flame
You have to buy the game to play the alpha?
low path
Yes
crystal beacon
Yes
tawny flame
Rip
crystal beacon
220€+
kindred spoke
the game itself at launch will not have a box cost though
crystal beacon
250$+
tawny flame
It's a pay to win?
kindred spoke
0 of that
crystal beacon
No
low path
https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop here is all the packs
Its subscription based upon release
tawny flame
How it isn't a p2w if they are working at it since 2017
wanton cosmos
He spent 30+ mil, hes going to make 300+mil if it succeeds
tawny flame
But at the end of the alpha the player will lose their stuff?
crystal beacon
Alpha2 will be the testserver in general
tawny flame
He spent 30+ mil, hes going to make 300+mil if it succeeds
@wanton cosmos who?
kindred spoke
the only head start that people will get is like a 1-2 day head start before the launch
wanton cosmos
Maybe you'll get a title or Cape for being an alpha/beta tester
crystal beacon
The ceo of the game is the private investor
wanton cosmos
@tawny flame the ceo
tawny flame
Ok don't spam me "the CEO", one message is enough
wanton cosmos
I'm hoping for some sort of title or Cape for being a alpha tester man. Thatd be sick
low path
I doubt it
wanton cosmos
Not even a title?
low path
Nah
crystal beacon
the ceo
wanton cosmos
Seems like it'd be so easy to put in
tawny flame
There are any discord server for guilds?
low path
Ya check #aoc-guild-recruitment
crystal beacon
wanton cosmos
Honestly
low path
They've advertised all the cosmetics that they give for being part of the alphas and stuff and even a few extras like the statue for corona, I feel like they would have mentioned a cape or title along with those
golden coral
Maybe they host arena tournaments in the future Like wow
low path
since a title would be a pretty big incentive
wanton cosmos
I could see people setting up some sort of esport league, guild wise.
low path
But do you really consider wow an esport
Thats like saying minecraft hunger games is an esport
golden coral
No but it hosts some tournaments
uneven adder
Any possibility to get an server/support/translate for South America?
wanton cosmos
Not in the traditional sense, but this game is going to be ultra community heavy. If people start cheering/hyping up certain guilds or cities, it's not hard for it to evolve into an esport
low path
If we talkin esports lets move to discussion
slow meadow
wow arena and mythic+ is definitely an esport. there would always be a possibility that since ashes has arenas that it could happen there as well, but there are no plans for it.
@uneven adder if there is enough interest in the game from that region, it is a possibility.
golden coral
I mean it's not a big deal anyway. Having tournaments is not bad
tawny flame
In how many language the game is translated?
golden coral
Probably French German and Russian rn
tawny flame
English?
crystal flax
US. made game, yes English
slow meadow
tawny flame
Yeah finally a game in Italian
low path
Is that your native language?
tawny flame
Yep
sterile fjord
Does someone know if the quests will be voiced ? like in lets say Star Wars the old Republic or if the quests will be more simple and in text form ?? or maybe a mix between both like Simple without choice but voiced
slow meadow
very little voice acting
golden coral
Even if I could translate the game into my native language I would never do that, it kinda makes it uncomfortable for me
desert ivy
SWTOR used an insane amount of money on voice acting, it'd be a colossal waste of money for Steven to do that
low path
There was zero voice acting in the 4k vid, I actually havnt seen ANY yet
tawny flame
Wait... The creator of the game will play the game???
golden coral
Ofc he will
slow meadow
they have stated that some key things may be voice acted, but the vast majority of the game will not have voice acting. both from a monetary standpoint and an iteration standpoint it is not a great decision based on how big of an impact it actually has on the playerbase, which is basically zero.
tawny flame
they have stated that some key things may be voice acted, but the vast majority of the game will not have voice acting. both from a monetary standpoint and an iteration standpoint it is not a great decision based on how big of an impact it actually has on the playerbase, which is basically zero.
@slow meadow wow
oak depot
After Release - once the game is live for say a year - will we know exactly the necessary Node Type (and those of the surrounding nodes) & Node Stage parameters needed to unlock a specific type of content?
low path
Steven is making the game because he didnt like how other mmorpg's were doing it. He literally made the company for this sole purpase, its his and the companies first game
@oak depot maybe.... I doubt intrepid would release that info, but its possible the player community will have gathered that info
boreal abyss
@oak depot prob not, but there will be a wiki you can google if you're feeling lazy
(as people across servers will compile info)
slow meadow
@oak depot probably not after a year since there are 103 nodes and it takes aroudn 2 months to raise a node to metro and nodes wont immediately fall once the content has been "beat" so it will likely take much longer.
oak depot
Well let me ask my question in a different way... will content progression be deterministic? Meaning, if I see Server A has achieved unlocking Dungeon XYZ by setting up their Node Structure as "this type with this stage here, this type with this stage there, that over there... etc" and I want to unlock this same Dungeon XYZ on my Server (Server B), can I do it by just replicating what I saw on Server A?
boreal abyss
no, likely, as long as people have figured out all the necessary trigger
that is, if you manage to replicate it tho
oak depot
@idle siren any chance you can spare a minute to answer the above question while drinking your coffee? Morning by the way
low path
steven has said that a dungeon doesnt just appear in the same spot when a node is levelled up, it spawns randomly somewhere in the node, with this being the case I feel as though its likely that the type of dungeon could be randomized as well
slow meadow
@oak depot to some degree, yes but we don't know what all the variables for that are just yet. its not just nodes, but it may also be which quest chains you have progressed through religious organizations or other social orgs. As well as we may not know which nodes tie together to unlock that content. So over time some of it will likely be figured out but but there are a lot of moving pieces.
boreal abyss
that's news for me 
interesting 
slow meadow
@low path its not that the dungeon randomly appears, it is always there, its about whether or not you have opened an entrance to it, and they may have more than one entrance. so multiple combinations could grant access to it, or no access at all depending on world state.
oak depot
@oak depot to some degree, yes but we don't know what all the variables for that are just yet. its not just nodes, but it may also be which quest chains you have progressed through religious organizations or other social orgs. As well as we may not know which nodes tie together to unlock that content. So over time some of it will likely be figured out but but there are a lot of moving pieces.
@slow meadow Okay, but each Server will have a "HISTORY" of everything that occurred. So as long as I replicate the history I assume it coudl be possible
sterile fjord
is there a way to become an alpha tester ? i play mmos sinc i am 12 and would like to test stuff to make the game good
dapper chasm
But even u could replicate it that easily, that wouldnt say, if this would be the best option...or if there could be a better one
crystal beacon
@sterile fjord u can buy the pre order packs
desert ivy
@sterile fjord Spend $250 to become an A2 tester
They might also reopen A1 sales for $500
slow meadow
@oak depot to a certain degree that is true but I don't think its that easy or simple. But until we see all the systems fully fleshed out and how detail the history is it would just be speculation as to how hard it would be.
oak depot
UNLESS - since node types are static - the assignment of node types across the static node locations are different for each server... truly meaning that each server is completely different.
void vortex
if a ship is attacked, its shipment is free at the bottom of the sea for anyone ? 🙂
slow meadow
ships can be destroyed as there is both PvE and PvP content on the ocean. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ships
low path
@slow meadow where did you see that dungeons have set entrances and that they open up statically depending on the node progression?
slow meadow
@low path it was in either the AMA or possibly one of the recent streamer interviews where Steven mentioned it. It had been implied before but he spoke to it directly.
low path
Ok, thanks!
slow meadow
@low path to add to that answer, the type of node progression that grants access matters. so if 4 nodes could all grant access to the same dungeon and each was a different type you could have different loot tables. So if Node A was a scientific node that got raised to level 3 and that unlocked the dungeon you may have loot tables that prioritize crafting materials, instead of something else.
sharp wing
@onyx knoll Can confirm it was that interview.
low path
Cool cool
mortal stream
Hey is Apocalypse still playable or was it taken down?
Ahh ty
Is there a place to get high res images of mounts/comestic packages
wary steppe
So random question, because I keep going down different rabbit holes in the wiki...
If I’m on a ship sailing, have to log out for some reason due to child ect, is my load back in going to be tied to the map coords that I logged out from, or is there going to be a system that will allow that ship itself to register as it’s own location?
Basically the difference between logging back on to the ship, or stranded in the ocean.
Okay, that’s workable
brazen narwhal
I've been wondering about respawn in general. With travel times being an importance cog in the system, have they decided where respawn locations will be?
onyx knoll
There are many respawn points scattered around the map, if you look at the dev footage they showed during the last streamed update, you can see some they're like big white crystaline features floating a few feet up the ground
So if you die in the middle of a dungeon area you'll respawn at one of the nearby ones
Not all the way back in a town
brazen narwhal
I did see that in the footage, but didn't want to assume what we saw was any more than a temporary thing.
pseudo nest
is there a story arc or is it all just sandbox?
steady ocean
There will be lore for sure as well as quests.
kindred spoke
Anyone have an idea, in theory, how big a Stage 6 node's ZoI will be with the inclusion of the vassal chains at max in comparison to the world map?
azure panther
is there any info on how fishing will work? either the actual mechanic or if theres going to be schools like wow
craggy harness
will there be different damage types? E.g Physical damage, Magic damage, Pure damage. and if so, will there be resistances to each?
kindred spoke
@craggy harness from my understanding, yes. It's been stated that there will be resistances to the different elements, radiant, etc.
idk about something like "pure damage," but fairly certain for the others
craggy harness
pure damage, not reduced by armor or magic resist
azure panther
there will be different damage types when they talked about the augment for charge they talked about the mage augment changing the damage from physical to elemental
kindred spoke
@craggy harness yeah i know what you meant, just i dont know if that'll be in the game
ruby swift
@oak depot Was answered. Node types are static on the map. All servers use the same node placement layout.
oak depot
@simple ether got a questions for you regarding parent/vassal relationship. In this image from your video, A enslaved B, B enslaved C, and C is blocking D (not sure if it's a 100% guaranteed block from advancement or not). 1) Doesn't A also enslave C and D? 2) Can't A be the parent of D and thus allow it to grow from Wilderness to Expedition or is the blocking for of C so strong it disallows it?
ok
is A considered to be a parent of C?
In your example yes, but could it have developed that A is B's parent and C's Parent and B simply blocked C from being a Village?
if it did develop that way (and west of B allowed it)... would B enslave C eventually and usurp A's parent relation of C into your example?
okay, but I'm sure it will be reversed through anecdotal evidence
depends how detailed the History of the server is I guess
It would be interesting to know if in what we were discussing if A was originally the parent of siblings B and C, B blocked C from being an equal sibling and thus eventually enslaved it and took parent ownership of it and removed A's parent ownership of C. I feel like it would almost have to be like that for proper experience upflow to work
azure panther
can you link that video nost 🙂
oak depot
@oak depot Was answered. Node types are static on the map. All servers use the same node placement layout.
@ruby swift Okay, so again, depending on the amount of detail provided in the "history" of a server, and whether dynamic events are trigger driven or partially influenced by RNG the forced spawning of certain dynamic content could be deterministic
@azure panther https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGNIvtCSqxw
ruby swift
Except your whole argument falls apart with the statements we have from before when Steven has said that if they see something they want to change they have the dials to do so on the fly. They don't want people knowing, and have the means to change it if they do.
But that becomes theory crafting from here on out.
oak depot
I mean players need to know how to achieve things... as in "how do I spawn a new PvE dungeon". Otherwise we are just blindly doing things
azure panther
Thats kind of the fun though tbh...
ruby swift
You are worms, they are gods. You muck around in the dirt.
oak depot
sure, it might not be a "specific" dungeon, but one of appropriate level
the fact Steven himself said on topic of replayability and why Node Sieges will be need is so people can delevel certain node types and thus advance others so they can unlock new content. This is only possible to do with intelligence if we have some form of knowledge of how the system works (or at least can learn how the system works by trying different things and seeing consistent causal effects.
ruby swift
Again, not the place for this. But will throw it out there that maybe they want that to be random too. You know what content you got and are getting rid of, but not what content you might get. Could be you blow up a perfectly good metro, level another one, and find out nothing has changed or you didn't get anything new.
tulip ember
Is there an RSS feed with updates/info I can add to my guild website
ruby swift
Their Twitter is the only thing I know of like that?
ruby swift
But that is mainly memes.
grim venture
Guys I have a Question, Is it possible to have a castle or fortress looking house in the game like in Elder scrolls online?
slow meadow
@grim venture you can have a mansion in a high level node but castles are their own unique content.
grim venture
I mean like the bastion Sanguinaris in eso xD
It's literally a castle straight out of dark souls
slow meadow
no, that would not be possible based on current descriptions of in node housing
grim venture
like you about to fight a last boss or something
ahh ok thank you. Just wanted to know because it was the first time I ever saw a house so huge for one player in a MMORPG
slow meadow
@grim venture a mansion in a metropolis is going to be large, but the styling and context of what you asked is likely not possible, it will just be an extremely large and nice house, not a fortress or castle look.
ruby swift
The instanced housing is apartments in the nodes. ESO is able to do that huge stuff and use the houses as a currency sink because everything is instanced.
long gust
In light of the recent Gallywix fallout on WoW, I’m working on a video covering the future of RTM in Ashes of Creation and whether or not it is truly inevitable. I’ve gathered the (rather light) official commentary on the topic so far, but is there any insight on the extent of the actual enforcement/anti-RTM practices planned that y’all could provide? Thanks much.
grim venture
thank you guys! Its true, its a lot easier for ESO because its instanced.
slow meadow
@long gust thats a massive topic that would likely better fit on the forums. They are building a tremendous amount of monitoring in to the structure of the game for pattern detection and the game will have live GMs on the servers that can investigate reports as well. But its more complicated than that even.
ruby swift
Only that they have been working on it since inception. There are several known and unknown systems that have been built in from the beginning to allow them to see every transaction, every trade, every item earned and such. They have at least two third party vendors working with them that focus on how to stop gold selling, botting, and RMT. And the list goes on.
grim venture
Do we know what rarity of gear, weapon and accessories will be? like if the most powerful gear etc well be named World class or something like that?
long gust
@simple ether That’s not a particularly nuanced take. Saying “so and so is banned” is not a reliable path to preventing it from consuming your game. The implementation is the important thing.
slow meadow
@grim venture there will be legendary items, some of which will be only 1 per server.
grim venture
😱
long gust
@ruby swift Thanks for the input. I’d heard about the third parties involved, and have been digging around for more detail, but have so far been unsuccessful.
ruby swift
@long gust It is a large topic that has been discussed endlessly here for a number of years, that is why the responses may not be as in depth as you like. The forums as Pharazon said may be a better place to gather info.
long gust
Thanks much, folks.
ruby swift
@long gust Look at Panopticon. The gaming one.
slow meadow
no support for macros, addons or api calls also severely limit the botting. But you are going to have a hard time finding details as stopping botting and RMT has to be kept closed to help prevent it from being circumvented.
grim venture
will you be able to equip more than 1 legendary item? I know, if they are that rare its highly unlikely that will ever happen but there are some unique players out there lol
past pewter
@simple ether Is the scribe going to have medical purposes too? Or is it too early to say on scribe atm
grim venture
@simple ether was that answer for me?
past pewter
Like crafting bandages etc
grim venture
thank you sir
slow meadow
@past pewter keep in mind that scribe is currently listed as a potential profession, some of the original comments about scribes got absorbed into the library special building. So it may either change quite a bit or be cut depending. Very little was known in the first place.
past pewter
Okay thank you guys
little anvil
Has there been any confirmation on reallocating skill points or changing your secondary archetype in the case where a player is dissatisfied with their character build?
slow meadow
yes to both. though it wont be trivial to do
grim venture
how about class change?
limber girder
no primary class changes
tidal trout
you can only change your 2nd class
limber girder
caps
grim venture
damn, gotta make sure you like it lol. Will it be possible to transfer character names?
limber girder
unknown but unlikely
dapper depot
Has there been any offical videos from interpid how the player housing will work?
slow meadow
in the 4k video they showed off a bit. but its all still very early so its just the basics.
novel ice
We know free holds will be real game limited spaces so there wont be multiple instances for each house. Idk about in the city areas though
tidal trout
apartments
dapper depot
i hope it will be very customizle inside the property, not place item in these squares.
past pewter
so like animal crossing housing
lilac summit
@idle siren Hey I was thinking of getting into D&D and I know you played it, could you take some time out of your schedule and make a full guide on everything to get started on hosting and playing it? Thanks mate
slow meadow
@novel ice there is both limited in world housing as part of the node as well as instanced apartments if the mayor adds them.
reef osprey
lol @lilac summit
sacred tangle
what sort of request is that
woven vale
@lilac summit If anything it will be pathfinder, as Steven has done an Ashes pathfinder game.
zealous spear
Will it be possible for one alliance to hold all the castles?
@simple ether I see, thanks.
Just to make sure, I meant Alliance, not clan.
Idk if there is a difference.
Alliance should be the higher thing, right?
Right, thank you!
One more thing. Will there be a transmog/glamour library. Akin to the one in WoW?
Thank you again!
oak depot
Alliance is 4 max; there are 5 castles ... can’t have them all
supple wing
Pathfinder setting? Like the Table top? So its gonna be pathfinder online 2.0?
cursive pebble
no
grim venture
so there is a chance that there could be a grand overwhelming alliance then lol
sturdy crater
5 castles max in the entire map?
slow meadow
correct
sturdy crater
Then the pvp will last for hours 😂
grim venture
I can see that going bad soon lol
sturdy crater
Just like archeage
desert ivy
Max official alliance you can have is 1200
sturdy crater
We had 5 castles
desert ivy
Server is 10k concurrent pop
And that's if the guilds put all their points into guild expansion and not other stuff
sturdy crater
Oh yeah,thats what steven said,if u want to zerg the server then u gon'a have dis advantage
But i believe a single guild can have 200 members max is good enough
Servers can have variety of guilds,alliances,m...etc
slow meadow
guild size is 50 - 300 max depending on perks
sturdy crater
Hell if a guild can have 500 members in it,then its bad
How can u manipulate 500 people
ruby swift
The lower end estimate you got there is a bit high.
supple wing
what engine is the game using?
sturdy crater
Isnt 300 abit too much?
supple wing
Unreal 4?
ruby swift
It could change to 250 depending on testing and what happens with castle siege caps
supple wing
That has shown the be unreliable for MMos in the past, how is the team handling that?
slow meadow
oh yep, sorry that should not have had a 1 in front of it. was meant to be 50 - 300. thanks unknown
ruby swift
They have built a custom backend
compact bluff
so lets say i spent 375 dollaridoos
ruby swift
That is what took up most of last year and caused the delay
compact bluff
how do i know my chosen name isnt already taken?
ruby swift
You dont.
compact bluff
ah
sturdy crater
Ive been told u can have 4 alliances max,300 x 4 is 1200 players
ruby swift
And name reservation goes in tier value order. KS>Summer>Intrepid pack.
supple wing
Haha NCsoft. May Wildstar and CoH rest in power. Gone before their time
Wait Jahlon I remember you from when I was trying to learn Archeage
I ended up getting a refund after they took away the ability to get gold with the arcpass
sturdy crater
Yes,he did archeage 101
supple wing
Yeah I take it Archage didnt last long under Gamigo?
sturdy crater
Yeah jahlon was the best guide u could ever find on youtube
sturdy crater
There r few people who r playing the game,but majority of the population left
supple wing
Because he assumes that you are brand new and doesnt take any knowlege for granted
sturdy crater
I loved AA as a pirate,oh the good old days
supple wing
Right, so back on Ashes
From what I see. It has the racial system of FFXIV. That is a set number of races with 2 tribes/subraces underneath them. is that fair to say?
slow meadow
4 races with 2 subraces each, then the tulnar
supple wing
Okay so just like FFXIV
compact bluff
KS>Summer>Intrepid pack?
ruby swift
@compact bluff Kickstarter backers will choose their names based on tier going first. Highest to lowest, then the Summer crowdfunding backers, then finally the Intrepid pack holders.
So if you wanted Kirito, prolly not going to happen.
compact bluff
ahhh no i didnt want Kirito
supple wing
What if I want The Phenomenal One?
crystal beacon
Hey! Do you guys think is it worth to buy any preorder package?
west turtle
depends if u wanna try the game before release and if you'd like skins
compact bluff
@crystal beacon depends on your preference
crystal beacon
For example if i buy the cheapest package. Can i play in the next phase? I think is going go be this fall?
west turtle
it says in inventory of package click 'view more'
alpha 2, beta 1 and beta 2 is in the most expensive package etc
slow meadow
@crystal beacon no alpha 1 starts in fall which is no longer available for purchase. We don't know a timeline for the next phases after that but it will be a way off.
west turtle
alpha 1* sorry
crystal beacon
That was my curiosity because i saw the extra information About packages. Sadly i wont be able to play this fall even if i buy it now
west turtle
they MIGHT (rumors) start selling alpha 1 packs again soon, if they need more testers
for alpha 1
slow meadow
@crystal beacon also while we all hope the game actually comes out, this is still a game in very early development and a purchase doesn't guarantee you anything so make sure you are comfortable with the possibility of losing that money.
pulsar ore
@idle siren Are you going to immortalize your pets into your game : )?
crystal beacon
@slow meadow thanks for help
uneven adder
guys, i noticed that is a portuguese wiki but not a brazilian, any possibility to get one?
ruby swift
Is that some elaborate language troll?
Also there is no official wiki, they are all fan run.
keen light
I blame Jah for not dedicating every waking moment to translating ashes 101 into every spoken language on planet earth
lilac summit
@undone trout Thanks I will do!
compact bluff
@slow meadow consumer protection laws ftw
stuck nacelle
What prevents a mayor from marking all opposition as enemies of the state?
ruby swift
The increasing gold cost for each one.
stuck nacelle
But what if they are filthy rich?
ruby swift
That is the answer we got when it was asked.
barren badger
Will summoners be able to fill the role of the main tank or will they only be capable to be off-tanks?
slow meadow
@compact bluff in most cases with Kickstarter and early development backing, consumer protection laws have failed to actually get people their money back. That's why I say people need to go in to it assuming that money is gone. YMMV but I don't think anyone should going in naively thinking if it doesn't work they will magically get their money back. I say this having dropped money for alpha 1 myself.
compact bluff
@slow meadow im EU based
keen light
That's cause you're a hard worker lol
viral steppe
Do we know if the player made shops will be Nameable with fun and punny names? or will it just be your player characters name?
are the shops only to sell completed products or can you sell anything?
wet walrus
If you buy a house and the node gets raided or taken over and your house is burnt down what are your options?
What about the bid you spent on the house?
slow meadow
my point still stands. even with the stronger EU laws its not a guarantee, and doesn't mean it's always easy to get your money back. Additionally, there is grey area around what your purchase actually represents. Delivery of the final game is actually not listed and this has come up with other games that have failed. There is still risk and people should take that in to account. @compact bluff
wet walrus
Do you get your bid back on the house or is that a loss you take from the raid?
viral steppe
will shops also be on a bid system? or will they be a set cost?
wet walrus
Alright so there is actual temporary value in your bid to a house and an actual sense of loss if you don't defend from the raid?
I like that very much, thanks for answering
reef echo
@idle siren is there going to be servers for Middle Eastern players? 🙂
ruby swift
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rocky cove
When could we expect to see the game support other languages? Holding out hope for Japanese option at launch
potent thunderBOT
reef osprey
@rocky cove only french, german and russian were confirmed for launch-support so far
create a petition, maybe you can make them add japanese
rocky cove
Ah ok, ty
keen light
It's a business
always remember that, if there's no money to be made there a much lower chance of translation
as with anything
wet walrus
Will the game support a multiple monitor setup?
chilly hedge
Not known yet, but I can't imagine it's not an option in Unreal.
steep cosmos
And what about regional prices? I live in Russia so I can easily hype up my friends because there is Russian translation, but pricing can be questionable. In CIS regions there are usually half-pricing with region lock, but I read that there will not be region locks, so...
ruby swift
They have said if a region has harmonization available it will be optional. If you choose the cheaper sub price you will be locked to CIS servers. If you dont, you will currently be locked to My.Games EU and CIS.
But they have announced no regions currently getting harmonization for sure.
steep cosmos
That's great to hear, thanks for answers
final oxide
Will names for roads, cities, towns, ect be desired by players
chilly hedge
Apparently you'll be able to pick a name from a list
Dunno if that's a vote by citizens or decision by the mayor
final oxide
I cant tell if I like that or not
chilly hedge
I mean, if you like encountering cities like "Gimli's Gimp Camp" then I suppose a preset list isn't that great
wanton cosmos
You already know there are going to be thousands of gimli wannabes
eager verge
Will crafting raw materials have attributes that based on when or where they were harvested, could make one master weapon Smith using the same base ingredients produce a better weapon then another using the same base ingredients?
Look at Star Wars galaxies crafting system as the example.
slow meadow
Star Wars galaxies has been noted as an inspiration and materials will have varying quality levels that need to feed through the entire process to produce the best of the best.
eager verge
Awesome. Just to clarify, so steel can have varying attributes such as, malleability (just using that as a placeholder for something else). Can two nodes have steel with different malleability levels, thus presenting 2 different stat end products?
slow meadow
we don't have that level of detail yet as the system is still very early, but they did talk about how only the best gatherers would be able to get top tier raw ore, and that you would need an equally skilled processor and subsequently crafter to not ruin that material through the process.
wanton cosmos
Does anyone know if there are going to be thief mechanics in the game?
eager verge
@simple ether when I mentioned the nodes I just meant to different nodes in different areas. The node is irrelevant. In galaxies, you could harvest steel that had eight separate attributes that all contributed differently to the weapon you produced.
Based on those attributes you could wait a weapon to have higher DPS or higher durability or some other variable.
These notes randomly rotated around the planets so they were for all intents and purposes never in the same place twice and you had to search for those resources. Then sampled them to see if that was the resource you wanted.
slow meadow
@eager verge crafters will have the ability to modify stats on the gear they create and they will have different levels of quality for raw ore, but they have not talked about that much detail for stats on ore. so its involved and customizable but not to that level from what we know right now.
formal torrent
I as an a former video game industry animator, I can't wait to see how the animations come together. I hope they smooth things out and polish the overlapping action.
keen cliff
I wonder how large of a database we get for selecting the city names. I know they're pre-set.
eager verge
So then my question is, what differentiates you as a master weapon Smith from another master weapon Smith using the same exact ingredients? How does a weapon Smith get notoriety? That was one of the great things about galaxies was that whatever artisan profession you chose, you could rise above the pack through dedication.
Thx @slow meadow
slow meadow
@eager verge part of it will be in sourcing hard to get mats. some mats only come from high end raid content, and there will be high competition for high quality gatherable as well since the supply will be more limited. Beyond that they have mentioned having some recipes be exclusive for a period of time if found. as well as the variants you can unlock through social orgs and quests.
dense breach
I'm sure a common question asked but what is the purpose of allowing multiboxers. From my experience allowing players to multibox can have a huge affect on average player enjoyment. It is possible with enough accounts you can have a fairly dominant control over a certain resource in a node just by having multiple bodies able to collect the rare resource. Making a monopoly and people who are also masters of their profession struggle progress it. As well in combat there is significant advantages of being able to hold areas based on your huge number of bodies you control to completely destroy any player wishing to try to contest your resources you're farming. I have a lot of experience against multiboxers in different games that allow it and it seems that the only positives it entails is for the user who can not only afford multiple subscriptions but PC capability to run that many instance making it feel pay to win when it isn't directly pay to win. A lot of the pros are only towards the multiboxers themselves while the average players it is almost entirely a negative experience. I'm just trying to understand what reason to allow multiboxers that is positive on the community as a whole and to the average player base rather than appealing to that specific demographic. Does it go beyond monetary game or perhaps there are systems to help solve problems multiboxing almost always accumulates. Genuinely curious as someone who is interested in buying one of the premium prepurchases of the game. My only major complaint.
boreal quartz
puts on glasses
dense breach
Its not like a discussion
Im curious as to why not to debate
So like their reasoning
onyx knoll
I recommend you check the forum post about it
the pros and cons are discussed multiple time
slow meadow
@dense breach it is a discussion because it is a very complex topic. far more than can be addressed here in the question channel. They asked for feedback on the forums on the topic specifically.
eager verge
@simple ether thx. But it sounds like I need to be in a guild in order to craft high end rare gear.
slow meadow
@eager verge nope you just need to know the right people. You can't obtain all the mats yourself so either a guild or connections to other specialists is needed. It build interconnectedness in the economy.
dense breach
My question was to the reasoning behind the allowance not to discuss and debate tho but Ill check the forums out. i was asking what was the devs reasoning. Stated later in the question is there only monetary gain or community game they wish to gain from allowing it. I'll check the forums thank you @onyx knoll
eager verge
@slow meadow ok. Let’s see how it pans out. Thx guys for all of the answers.
onyx knoll
TLDR; There isn't really a reason to allow it, it's more they can't ban it. There isn't a way to detect if a single person is using 2 PC versus two people using a PC each. @dense breach They're banning the obvious uses of it, like macros and scripts but you can't really IP detect accounts since it could be families, dorms etc.
trim moon
how useful?
@livid sluice Yes
livid sluice
what is the maxium amount of users that can be a part of a guild
slow meadow
@livid sluice as useful as other classes. you will have strengths and weakness but everyone will be useful.
versed hollow
@livid sluice 300
onyx knoll
@livid sluice we don't have a lot of info on summoners atm, at least in details. We know they hope they'll be versatile and useful in many situation but currently HOW useful is unknown
dense breach
@onyx knoll oh okay I see sorry the live stream QNA made it seem like they didnt really care and didnt delve too much into it but that as a whole makes a lot of sense! Thats why I prompted the question not as a discussion but as a genuine question. Thanks a ton
livid sluice
no 1000 memeber guilds pepehands
onyx knoll
@dense breach Np, it is a pretty difficult topic tho lol, the community is pretty divided on it and most folks are a bit tired of seeing the subject come up haha
livid sluice
so a streamer can have multiple guilds working in conjunction with eachother?
why don't u just share a discord and have an alliance that way?
dense breach
Well its only because I think most people are uninformed as to the reasoning @onyx knoll cause for me I watched the live QNA which made me only have more questions so I joined the discord to ask specifically about it! And now I know and understand the devs view completely!
livid sluice
are we able to make the illuminati a reality?
onyx knoll
@livid sluice Technically you could make a larger "alliance" outside of the game, but you wouldn't have any of the in-game bonuses for it. On paper you could have one giant 10k player group organized outside of the game and control the whole server. That's never gona happen but I don't think there is anything that technically prevents it. Would be hella boring tho, you'd be killing like 60% of the game if everyone is on the same side
livid sluice
big true
eager verge
Here’s a big question for me.
How is Ashes going to handle player auctions and gold buying? How will that be handled and monitored or will it be?
trim moon
@simple ether They recently mentioned that coastal fishing will be different from deep-sea fishing, so we'll probably have to fight the deep-sea monsters for resources. Any insights on the possible differences between fishing as a gathering profession and the combat/farm based fishing? That can apply to other gathering professions as well.
slow meadow
They are building in monitoring for all transactions and activities and automatically detecting anomalies in addition to in game GMs. @eager verge
crystal beacon
Will the 250vs250 be bound to only one game mode or is for general open world pvp
Are guild wars then a guild specific event or all guilds in the world
eager verge
@slow meadow Ok. It’s a moving target though. Will they be monitoring player auction websites? Maybe set up sting operations? 🤔
This is huge for me because it will upend the game economy no matter how well it is built.
onyx knoll
@eager verge Do you mean real money trading or in game gold-for-goods trades?
slow meadow
@eager verge they will be monitoring in game metrics and banning both the seller and the buyer. Not to mention that without macros supported by the game and no follow mechanics botting is also going to be easier to detect. Its a big focus and something they are building in from the ground up. It wont be eliminated entirely but with how aggressive they are being it will have very limited impact to the economy also because they will be banning the buyer as well.
eager verge
@onyx knoll anything outside the game.
viscid ermine
If i choose support like bard will i have hard time to farm alone or do i need to be in a party for farming?
eager verge
@slow meadow ok. Guess that’s the best that can be done.
weak mantle
would bard even be considered a dps class
slow meadow
@weak mantle no they are actually a support class
onyx knoll
@eager verge right, they'll basically have an AI that monitors all trades and flags potentially suspicious ones. So for exemple if someone trades you a ton of gold for a rock, then the AI flags it. A GM would then take a look at it and look at the circumstances surrounding the trade. The person that traded you is someone you have many hours of played time with, who has been in your guild from the start? Probably a friend or family, carry on. The trader is someone you never interacted with? Then they'll look in deeper and potentially ban you and the trader
slow meadow
@viscid ermine you will be able to kill things but a group would make things easier.
grim sparrow
How rare/difficult will it be to obtain a freehold for yourself?
trim moon
@viscid ermine Your main archetype does not necessarily dictate if you are full support tho
weak mantle
quad system > trinity system 
onyx knoll
@viscid ermine Hard to tell at the moment since we don't have the list of skills for bard, nor how augments from your secondary archetype will affect it. It's very likely that you'll be able to make a solid dps solo build tho
trim moon
You can probably go full support, but you are probably going to have some damaging abilities etc
Like we are seeing now with the Cleric
eager verge
@onyx knoll thx. I know they’ll be ppl that will get around this but as long as its limited...
onyx knoll
@grim sparrow It shouldn't be crazy difficult but it won't be easy either. The easy housing will be apartments, freehold will require you to invest a lot. We don't have numbers on that so I can't say exactly how much effort it'll take tho
@eager verge Yeah, probably, people will try to get imaginative, but if they make it really hard for RMTs to make a profit they'll just leave for other MMOs where it's easier is the idea 😛
grim sparrow
So basically at least expect land rush similar to AA?
onyx knoll
Never played AA, so no idea sorry
eager verge
True
weak mantle
imagine trying to rmt in this game. took weeks getting to lvl 44 just to get banned
onyx knoll
Freeholds require a rank 3 node, so it'll take a while before people can even buy a freehold tho
At the start of the game it'll literally be impossible, then as the nodes progress a lot of spots will open up
slate thicket
how many freeholds per node?
viscid ermine
Another Q: what if i pick mage/mage to become archwizard is there any benefit for picking same class again?
trim moon
But you'll have to do some work at the freehold in order to get a freehold, right?
@viscid ermine Yeah, you get augments just as you would get any other class
eager verge
@weak mantle I’ve been playing AA on and off for 6 years. We have some very resourceful players with diabolical schemes ready to go. I’m sure they’ve already drawn up plans for Ashes.
onyx knoll
@slate thicket currently there are no number on potential limits of freeholds, tho they would end up being limited by just available space in the world since they take physical room around the node's zone of influence. So the amount will probably depend on where the node is, what the environment is like, if there are too many mountains you'll have less, where as a node mostly of plains might have room for more
trim moon
Mage/Mage you could (theoretically) put an elemental augment in a Firebolt and make it a "Frostfire Bolt" spell that burns and slows
onyx knoll
@viscid ermine Again, we doN't have the list of what augments do at the moment so that's really hard to answer but the way we understand it mage/mage would be less versatile them most other combos but very strong at mage things. Potentially glass-canon style
slate thicket
@onyx knoll thanks, i was under the impression that they are pre assigned plots is that true?
onyx knoll
@slate thicket Mhh, as far as I know, no. The nodes themselves are, but the freehold from what we've been told can be place anywhere you want within a set of rules;
slate thicket
Great! thanks again!
trim moon
I thought you were talking about story related plots lol 😆
onyx knoll
hahaha
trim moon
Do we have any idea on how the games story will play out, if the world's development is so unpredictable?
We know that there will be a story line
Like in instanced dungeons and stuff
But still...how?
onyx knoll
We don't have a ton of details, we do know the castle nodes are gona be a part of it tho
and those don't change
vague trench
Are the mounts from previous pre-order packs gonna still be available in-game on release?
slow meadow
@vague trench not the exact mounts but some that are similar may be available in game. any pre-order cosmetic is exclusive to that pre-order.
limber tendon
anyone know if we will be getting a developer update anytime soon?
vague trench
Dang, wish I'd heard of the game when the Prowler of Perdition was available. That things looks awesome.
slow meadow
at the end of every month @limber tendon
limber tendon
thanks chief
slate thicket
are dwarfs the only nonhuman sized race? are any of the other races bigger or smaller than a human?
crystal flax
Orcs will be bigger, elves will be slightly taller I think
We don't know about Tulnar yet
onyx knoll
We don't have a lot on the orcs or Tulnar, but orcs looked larger then humans from the concept art and Tulnar are said to have "bestial qualities" w-e that will mean visually
slate thicket
thanks good to know. do we know when we'll be getting info on Tulnar?
onyx knoll
no idea
i'm guessing it'll be much closer to launch, they were a kickstarter goal so they starter working on them later
slate thicket
ok thanks again
molten garnet
Wheres Steven at?
crystal beacon
The underrealm has been worked on since 20128
2018*
I guess the tulnar will be in alpha2
onyx knoll
I'm sure they'll eventually be in A2 considering it'll run until launch
crystal beacon
Alpha 1 will be general testing of base functions
onyx knoll
I doubt they'll be in early phases of A2 tho
crystal beacon
Ye alpha 2 will contain the full game eventually
molten garnet
@idle siren i summon theee!
onyx knoll
and beyond, the beta wil be their own seperate thing
@molten garnet Dude it's his weekend, let a man rest
wanton cosmos
you mean player quantity testing?
crystal beacon
I dont know, the wiki describes it better
But it isnt important
A2 is important for us
crystal beacon
So if u buy the pack, good idea to buy a2access
near horizon
yeah, you don't want to miss on a2 if you're gonna buy any pack right now
wanton cosmos
glad i didnt buy into the fishing village pack tho lol
the previous pack was a lot better, aside from the mount
near horizon
the snorse is amazing
drowsy storm
do the access keys to the phases (a2, b1, b2) from the preorder packs disappear once the respective phase starts?
onyx knoll
@drowsy storm no, they're not keys per say, they basically just give your account access to the relevant test realm
so you can't trade them either
drowsy storm
like if i wanted to hang out and wait until i saw a super cool voyager pack, but that waiting took me until A2 started, would i still be able to access A2, or is it too late once it's begun?
onyx knoll
Ahh, we'll get a warning if they remove an access
wanton cosmos
the snail horse is the single best mount ive seen man. except for the geode
onyx knoll
so you'll know in advance and can decide to buy it before it goes
drowsy storm
ah cheers
warning
where would we usually see that? im new in the aoc world
love all your help by the way xenellia <3
onyx knoll
They'll most likely announce it in #news , and probably on their twitter? Probably during a live stream too
Happy to help 🙂
vague trench
tfw want the Voyage Plus pack but don't like the current cosmetics on offer.
Well, don't care for.
main raptor
The snorse is shit, look at this epicness we missed in March
onyx knoll
Wait for next month ^^
iron python
😦 I missed the John Snow package, so mad
onyx knoll
Please keep this channel for questions tho, feel free to share the anguish at missing out on awesome cosmetics in #aoc-discussion
crystal beacon
What is next month?
onyx knoll
We'll know a few days before they switch it
onyx knoll
haha, just saying if you don't like this month's cosmetic just wait until you see the next one before deciding to buy in case you like the next one better!
Cosmetics are purely subjective, even if I did know what the next ones looked like and loved them, doesn't mean everyone would 😛
onyx knoll
@pseudo nest That's hard to say at the moment considering we don't know the Bard skills nor how the secondary augments will affect them.
slow meadow
you can add more dps to your kit by picking up a dps secondary but bard is a support class so it will never be on par with at dps role.
pseudo nest
lame
wintry seal
wait I have a question
onyx knoll
ask away
wintry seal
if we from Asia and we know we have no news about Asia server or anything ,how do we get our hands on these pre order packages for cosmetics like that ship and other stuffs
grizzled latch
You buy through intrepid and they will transfer it if nessisary when the time comes
slow meadow
@wintry seal
onyx knoll
That's not their question, Phara
slow meadow
yes it is, they said there was no news on an asia server
there is an asian server so they can purchase now. I was adding to the answer above mine
iron python
No, they said about cosmetic store
onyx knoll
@wintry seal You can purchase packs on the NA website, eventually they will add a transfer service so you can move your purchased goodies to the server of your choice
proven root
are the costume cosmetics only appliable to 1 specific race, or they can be applied on a character of any race
grizzled latch
Any race
wintry seal
will I be able to purchase these stuffs when it officially launched? cause if its Asian server Steven said they would make the price depending on the region
grizzled latch
Yes, just possibly at a diffrent price point
None of the old cosmetics though only new ones
Old ones are gone permanently
wintry seal
ok
grizzled latch
Diffrent color variants may be made available again at a later time though with some other minor diffrences.
desert ivy
Also, I'm fairly certain the SEA server isn't actually confirmed. They're deciding between a SEA server and an OCE server with them leaning more towards an OCE server
drowsy storm
citation for OCE/SEA server bulletpoints in the wiki
desert ivy
This is a more recent one of Steven saying they're leaning more towards OCE on the forums a few weeks back
brisk scarab
guys, if you buy smallest pack, how easy is it to upgrade, no extra costs I assume
onyx knoll
upgrading just charges you the difference, so if you buy the 75$ pack then you want to upgrade to the 375$ pack it would be 300$
brisk scarab
ok cool thanks
west turtle
np
chilly quail
Speaking of packs, ive been thinking of getting a pack, but as i understand it, its only available for the US accounts as of now due to technical issues, is there anyone here that knows if there will be a cost to switching from US to EU client if i invest in a pack?
brisk scarab
Erm, I'm EU? I was able to add to cart?
onyx knoll
They said they would add a transfer system eventually, I don't think they said anything about a cost for that service tho
onyx knoll
pretty sure it'll be free
chilly quail
yeah thats about where im at too, but as im thinking of getting the 375 bundle it would be a slight oof for the wallet if it was an additional migration fee on top of that
brisk scarab
its 375 + 20% just so you're aware
chilly quail
okay, well thats very good to know, thank you friend!
stable plover
You might want to look at https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Account_management#Account_transfers for more details
brisk scarab
yeah so just convert $450 to your currency
chilly quail
i more or less just want to make sure that i know about it for the cool freehold skins etc. its not so much about name reservetion or anything else realy but thank you all for the detailed responses, much appreciated!
❤️
brisk scarab
Tbh I didn't even look what I get with it just bought it lol :/
chilly quail
hahah fair enough, im so stoked for this game it looks absolutely amazing with its potential, cant want to get my grubby li'l hands on it
brisk scarab
Yeah, I'm fairly confident it's no chronicles of Elyria mate lol
grizzled latch
It changes every month, so keep an eye out for something that appeals to you.
chilly quail
yeah i was thinking about getting the previous one with the swamp theme, but in the end i opted not to, realy love the snailhorse this month, but ill wait for the next set i think
potent osprey
could Ship Builder be renamed to Shipwright please and thanks xoxo
onyx knoll
I recommend you try the forums for propositions like this, the questions channel isn't really a place where it'll be seen
main raptor
@simple ether why do you keep equating oce and sea? They're not the same and thats like me saying eu and na are the same
The wiki even splits them because they are separate regions
@simple ether steven has told us aussies that we will get aussie hosted oce servers during testing and launch if enough are on them. Do you think sea will be hosted in australia? I doubt this for the same reason we are so vocal about not having our servers hosted in singapore.
@idle siren steven answered on the forums on 28 july
@simple ether
Steven pls comment
Brb ill get it
supple yarrow
I got a question about hitboxes. what measures are taken to balance combat hitboxes between smaller and bigger characters?
onyx knoll
@supple yarrow they'll have the same hitbox
woven vale
I don't think we know but I hope dwarves will move slower, since they're shorter
onyx knoll
duno, just what Steven said. He said he didn't like how some people would make tiny af characters just for the smaller hitboxes so he wanted it to be a standard hitbox
wanton cosmos
@chilly quail if you're wondering, you could buy a pack, and then when the next pack comes out, you dont have to buy the whole thing again to get the items you like
Basically, you get a pack, you can then get any of the future options under that pack separately. Get the mount pack now, and you can get the future mount by itself, should you like it enough
boreal quartz
for a cost
wanton cosmos
@chilly quail it's why I got the swamp pack, and then got the mount from this one cause it looks cool
strong drum
Moving slower is a balance issue, the only thing I see is if there are headshot mechanics for a ranger. You'd have to shoot above the dwarfs head if everyone shared the same hit box for that
strong drum
Then hit box don't matter
onyx knoll
yeah idk how they'll do it, I think headshots were benched but i'm not 100% sure
strong drum
Everyone relax
boreal quartz
I agree with no headshots 100%
supple yarrow
even if headshots are benched that doesn't really answer how they will properly do it tho
wanton cosmos
Are backstabs going to do more damage?
boreal quartz
most likely
strong drum
Then the hit boxes won't have much effect on character model itll tab to the feet of the player model for targetting
I assume
onyx knoll
maybe on specific skills, but I don't think attacking from the back currently gives bonus dmg to every archetype
main raptor
onyx knoll
@strong drum the game has a lot of action-type skill you need to aim and hit
wanton cosmos
Well, it is what it is. If dwarfs are smaller, I'm sure they get some debuff to balance it
boreal quartz
backstab is probably a rogue ability which does more damage to the back
main raptor
@simple ether re-read what I said
supple yarrow
if everyone gets a standard sized hitbox u can shoot above the dwarf and still damage them. or shoot at the tall orc head but do no damage because it flies above the hitbox
boreal quartz
If hit box is char size than its op to be small
wanton cosmos
But if they move slower than the average player, than it would be balanced
low path
They shouldnt move slower
strong drum
@onyx knoll yeah the action skills won't matter because the hit boxes are same size for all characters. Tab was the only real issue and with no headshots the hit boxes should be fine
wanton cosmos
Why not? We already know race augments/stat differences exist
Why mot affect the speed too
low path
Cus thats just dumb
supple yarrow
Well i asked the question on reddit megathread, maybe ill get a response from one of the devs
strong drum
You canr give a race a base speed increase lol pvp balance that's broken
low path
I imagine most augments are like, hugher dmg with a bow or maybe faster stamina regen
main raptor
@simple ether what you seme incapable of understanding is that if the server is hosted in Singapore, 90% of the "oce" player base will have better pings and connection to NA. That doesn't mean it will be playable- high ping is a death knell for us aussies on mmorpg's, you need only look at ESO.
So equating oce to sea is just dumb
low path
Ya what merc said, speed is just something that should be default, if the thing you do most in a game is walking then you shouldnt get punished for playing a different race
supple yarrow
but dwarfs have small legs? j k
strong drum
Exactly and a base speed reduction is massive in terms of potential downstream effects
low path
Does that mean dwarfs should get 3x mining bonus?
wanton cosmos
It wouldn't be an increase to speed, dwarfs and smaller races would simply be slower. And because they are slower, they also get more damage and smaller hit boxes.
In the description of the dwarf race on the wiki, it does already say dwarfs are among the strongest members in the world
main raptor
@simple ether I understand that but the topic is more nuanced than just "you guys will have to play in sea" because sea will be worse than na for us in terms of connection stability and ping.
supple yarrow
Does that mean dwarfs should get 3x mining bonus?
@low path no they also have small arms 🤣
low path
Its about balance,not realism
supple yarrow
im joking
steady ocean
Remember folks, discussion is probably better for #aoc-discussion Great topic though!
main raptor
Basically if we dont get oce servers in oce, we will be without a home
low path
Maybe thats for the best
strong drum
Blasphemy