The naval combat include the guns and gunpowder part if you roll down.
#questions
half apex
wary steppe
Random question...
I know that all node locations and types are going to be predetermined. Are the guild castle locations predetermined as well?
Also, is there currently a map of the game world showing node locations?
half apex
Castle locations won't change so yes predetermined. We don't have node map yet only speculation ones.
wary steppe
Awesome. Probably not going to try and run a political game... most likely going to find a profession when the game releases...
But, such information would be nice for coordinating an alliance if I chose to go for royalty status.
shrugs
half apex
It would be for everyone :)
wary steppe
I will say, this game, even with so much still left unknown, is deep.
I honestly have no idea what Iโm going to gravitate towards.
Itโs refreshing.
west turtle
amen
fierce cloak
When will EU store be back online? We missed two month of cosmetics now ๐ฆ
half apex
This is a frequent question nowdays and the answer is vague each time. It will come back when they finish what inner work they planned.
fierce cloak
Some people posted that they are canceling with my.com because of the bad feedback, is that why?
half apex
Idk. I'm not related to this topic, just shared the vague answer came up before for it.
slow meadow
I believe Steven said they might have more to say near the end of the month on the topic.
merry frigate
@idle siren i cannot purchase any pro-order pack. it keeps asking me for a Zip Code but Canada only has Postal Codes and it will not give me a option to use my postal code?
round belfry
Same thing @merry frigate
dark jungle
west turtle
yea just move bro
merry frigate
id move to New York if i wasnt broke af
vast crescent
might want to think about moving to diff state ;P
merry frigate
nah new york is the only place that has Tim Hortons
sharp wing
Ohio would like a word with you.
west copper
yeah they may have tim hortons but thats about the only good thing they have
loud marsh
You guys know if mana will be irrelevant like other mmos or are we actually going to think about how we spend mp
ruby swift
@loud marsh Mana is a real issue. So much so some classes have an ability to gift it to other classes.
west turtle
they said in an interview that it will matter
half apex
I think it prety relevant. Idk about lvl50 but till you reach it , it's garanteed
west turtle
gotta watch it
ruby swift
I could cast 4 fireballs before oom as a mage. So it was cast x4 and then halberd spin to win to finish.
Current iterations are in no way balanced yet however.
@fierce cloak Steven said there will be news towards the end of the month concerning My.Games
errant chasm
@merry frigate maybe u can just use paypal or something?
errant quiver
@idle siren Can Mages mass-cast Meteor Shower in Seiges and Raids? Thanks! I sent you a video example in your PM's
surreal ravine
Is gear going to be level based like in wow and other mmos? or will there be no level cap and you can have boss gear at level 4?
teal yarrow
Question, will we be able to create "macros", for example, hotbar button that cast different abilities depending on whether we're pressing the alt button, have our mouse over an enemy or ally, etc?
random trench
@teal yarrow macros are out at the moment
drifting idol
Good morning, I am one of those players who has been interested in the game due to the recent media coverage.
But I have observed that for a long time its official distribution (https://aocreation.com/en#preorder) does not work (it cannot be bought in Europe),
I do not see recent messages, I do not see information about that. In the discord they say that they will make an announcement, is it true? Just in case,
we are warning the members of the communities to which we belong not to buy the packs for now, because the lack of transparency seems worrisome to us,
we would like some kind of official statement (if it exists and I have not seen it, I'm sorry, could you pass me the link?) about the distribution in
the EU by the company. Thank you very much.
silent bluff
Updates on EU will be coming in the near future, likely around the end of this month slight_smile
Direcly from steven today
drifting idol
ok thanks you, so he (Steven) said it, iยดll wait
silent bluff
No problem! I have been checking dor updates on this pretty much every hour for the week so far ๐
vernal swallow
What would be the possible rewards for participating in the monster coin events?
ocean bluff
Cosmetics
half apex
Distrupt node progression of neighboor nodes to make your own progress faster @vernal swallow
heavy sage
Is gear going to be level based like in wow and other mmos? or will there be no level cap and you can have boss gear at level 4?
@surreal ravine sauce his question wasnt answerd yet, anyone know? Im wondering aswell
wild marsh
There are tiers of gear that players can access based on their level.
loud marsh
I hope theres at least a lvl bracket cuz it would be too game breaking
surreal ravine
so its like every generic mmo?
shy sluice
Question concerning the architecture of the freehold buildings: The architecture in a node is dependable on the race that contributed the most to it this I know. But how will this be for Freehold buildings are they also influenced by the node? Or will they have a the architecture of your personal race?
surreal ravine
probs personal race, since its your personal home and its not connected to the town or anything like that. BUT idk dont quote me
wild marsh
@surreal ravine its like almost every game, not just generic mmo. Most rpgs have that type of feature in them, Elder Scrolls, OSRS, dragons dogma, etc. But yeah, like every rpg
shy sluice
yeah that is the question, I would also say personal but I can not find any source for this.
wild marsh
Im guessing it's based off the node you're attached too unless you have a skin.
grizzled latch
There are various layouts you can choose from in regards to building type. With how customizable they are and how personal steven wants to make then I doubt there will be a default skin for them. Most likely when choosing which building to construct you will also choose the style it is built in. Player houses in the towns/cities will follow the style of the town to preserve the asthtetic but I doubt freeholds will be limited like that.
pseudo wave
will get a full augment reveal before launch or will there be some hidden stuff for players to find. As far as social organizations go will you need to find the Node you want then hope the mayor ads the social organization that you want or will all 3 be active. If your node goes down will you have to start that social organization grind all over?
green pagoda
wintry moat
is anybody here have gaming chair ?
green pagoda
Why is that on my intrepid account
lean raptor
There are various layouts you can choose from in regards to building type. With how customizable they are and how personal steven wants to make then I doubt there will be a default skin for them. Most likely when choosing which building to construct you will also choose the style it is built in. Player houses in the towns/cities will follow the style of the town to preserve the asthtetic but I doubt freeholds will be limited like that.
@grizzled latch Do you have a link for that? i could not find anything that confirms that on the wiki
@green pagoda so you can redeem the items when the game launches
green pagoda
Does everyone have those? Im just confused. All i did was make ab account
lean raptor
Did you not buy a package?
green pagoda
Not at all
wintry moat
bug
indigo steeple
They are literaly just hair styles
@green pagoda enjoy
green pagoda
@indigo steeple Thanks :0
crystal beacon
I just watched the LazyPeon video again and saw a picture of Steven in the freehold building...does that mean that you can import personal files to decorate your house?
indigo steeple
no i think steven just has a big ego
digital yacht
short answer yes, but that could be changed in the future due to ppl abusing this by adding NSFW or pictures deemed bad
digital yacht
if that becomes in an issue in beta/alphas then it will get reverted
lofty fjord
will melee classes like warrior use Mana or something like rage...?
reef osprey
@lofty fjord we have only seen mana in the game so far
also, they might use secondary resources, it's not necessarily an this or that scenario
lofty fjord
i hope so i think Rage or something like that (builder spender) works better than mana for warriorbut i am sure they make it work
grizzled latch
@lean raptor its mentioned in one of the q&a done in the past month. I think it was the one with ashes 101 guy
lean raptor
@lean raptor its mentioned in one of the q&a done in the past month. I think it was the one with ashes 101 guy
@grizzled latch cheers man i'll check it out, but usally the wiki is on point with getting information from videos
grizzled latch
As far as custom images go the theory is that since it is sub based then people will be less likely to attempt to add images they should not. Obviously there will be people who break the rules but progression steps will be taken for those who break the rules
.
There was alot of info in that one and they wanted to make sure all the info was added properly. They said it would take awhile to update the material correctly
About 39 min 15 sec into the video it discusses the in city housing being same style as the city @lean raptor
lean raptor
i don't know what video you are talking about can you link the video? @grizzled latch
grizzled latch
Google steven july 8 2020 interview, sorry but I have it on my youtube app so idk how to get the link
lean raptor
Ok cheers man โฅ๏ธ
warped mirage
Good morning, I am one of those players who has been interested in the game due to the recent media coverage.
But I have observed that for a long time its official distribution (https://aocreation.com/en#preorder) does not work (it cannot be bought in Europe),
I do not see recent messages, I do not see information about that. In the discord they say that they will make an announcement, is it true? Just in case,
we are warning the members of the communities to which we belong not to buy the packs for now, because the lack of transparency seems worrisome to us,
we would like some kind of official statement (if it exists and I have not seen it, I'm sorry, could you pass me the link?) about the distribution in
the EU by the company. Thank you very much.
@drifting idol what the... I don't understand, I've already purchased "pack" from https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop, that's only US accounts related or what? I'm from EU aswell
brittle ferry
You're talking about the release of the game @warped mirage ?
deft jay
@warped mirage yes https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop, this is US official
warped mirage
Well, I'm trying to point out that there is another site with EU preorders as @drifting idol mentioned, or what does it mean?
warped mirage
Damm, what does it mean for me as EU player, if I've bought US "pack" ?
indigo steeple
donate to my gofundme 
i need to build a time machine to buy better skins
crystal beacon
They should mention that on the website though. So people know where to buy it...
warped mirage
There should be somewhat of massive warning, I havent noticed a thing
deft jay
warped mirage
And I wouldnt If I didint randomly read this message
brittle ferry
I don't believe the packs are region restricted though?
Let me look at it for a moment
warped mirage
It's strange that there are two domains for the same site, it should be sub-domain if we are speaking in terms of regions...
I mean I know it is not that important, just confusing, hopefully it doesn't matter where I preordered that pack ๐
brittle ferry
Might be a support ticket question but I'll @ you if I find it
deft jay
faint plover
Hello, i probably did wrong. I bought pre-order Voyager plus, but Now i see , i buy IT on offcial web site. Not from my.games, And i am from EU. What can i do? Does metter where i bought IT?
warped mirage
Just trying to figure that out, shouldnt matter where u bought it hopefully
@deft jay strange practice, should be like https://aocreation.com/us // https://aocreation.com/eu // https://aocreation.com/ru to avoid confusion
deft jay
Just w8 for now. i think. There will be info about EU soon as some one say's Or ask for Refund thru support
faint plover
Lol callion i see you Have samรฉ problรฉm
brittle ferry
deft jay
No Aocreations is EU domen i think mil ru just cant put together thir clients and servers with US domen
warped mirage
@deft jay there is not such a thing as "cant" in terms of web developing :p
brittle ferry
The only difference is cost
deft jay
I just dont know about that i only speculating
warped mirage
@brittle ferry oh, nice! thanks a lot ๐
deft jay
I am from Russia myself and o realy worried about this game future 
warped mirage
Well, I have hope, even if I know that is dangerous in terms of MMORPG :p
faint plover
Idk why if i am searching fรณr ashes i find NA shop, not from EU where i live
brittle ferry
Because you can't purchase anything through my.games right now?
reef osprey
@warped mirage it doesn't matter.
you can freely transfer your account to my.games later on
faint plover
I dont know, i didnt try IT.
reef osprey
@warped mirage including pack, including everything
faint plover
Good
deft jay
@reef osprey may be. there is nothin certain yet
faint plover
And if someone from my friends want to buy pre-order. And we Are from EU. Where he must buy pre-order?
brittle ferry
What do you mean not certain @deft jay ?
deft jay
@faint plover Just wait for it
reef osprey
@deft jay not maybe no
it was confirmed by intrepid that there will be a free way to migrare your account
dont spread misinformation
brittle ferry
As it stated above, you can purchase on the US side and transfer later
warped mirage
@reef osprey kลฏl ๐ I just thing they should do everything under one domain, even if there would be some kind of redirecting to MY.GAMES or RU site when account creating, three domains are confusing and bad practice, but Ill stop whinning, that my web developer side having an issue with this ๐
faint plover
@faint plover Just wait for it
@deft jay how wait? If they want some cosmetics what stฤ avialible now
deft jay
mail.ru not response ant all in their support. And official and we haven't official info yet, am i wrong?
reef osprey
you are wrong
brittle ferry
There's a lot of "official" information
deft jay
This info was from Interepid only and we just don't know when and how transfers will be possible
faint plover
@brittle ferry EU shops from my.games Are not avialible right Now?
brittle ferry
Intrepid controls the game, no one else, same game all over the world
warped mirage
@brittle ferry True, but MY.GAMES will have their accounts at EU side then, that is not good, they should be independent in that as well
Giving 3rd party that much power is never good
woeful vector
Are referral codes only for streamers? Or can anyone get a referral code?
viral ore
everyone has their unique referral code
drifting idol
The problem is not if in the future they will fix the problem of the accounts or allow the changes between regions, the main problem is that it seems that the company that will be in charge of the game in the EU has zero confidence and makes me doubt as a consumer in the EU, a pity.
brittle ferry
The only thing they control are EU sales of the game
viral ore
https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/profile/referrals
@woeful vector
deft jay
Sales, support, servers
brittle ferry
Sales and support for those sales
warped mirage
all accounts stored in their database
drifting idol
Ok really not a problem for me for now, bacause i dont purchased nothing.. i wait until end of this month and lisen what they said
deft jay
Game GMs too. All distribution of the game. But not a content
warped mirage
yes, but #aoc-discussion message
and that is what I dont like, but I guess what can I do atm
faint plover
This migration And where buy pre-order Its very confusing
wintry seal
yes
i want to know if it will be available for my country before i pre order it
always this issues is best sorted
warped mirage
Well, it still soon and they are based in the US, so I guess rest of regions etc. will be sorted before launch, so we kinda have to wait
wintry seal
ok then best not to pre order or do anything
faint plover
South Asia Have big player base, i think there Will be servers too
drifting idol
@warped mirage exactly thats the problem, is like they talk about the release of game, not the alphas, betas.. etc...
warped mirage
I hear you, I've preordered at US site anyway, lets see what happens ๐
faint plover
I hear you, I've preordered at US site anyway, lets see what happens ๐
@warped mirage same :/
sour veldt
So u pay a sub each month . But there is a possibility u can pay with ingame currency after paying once right?
drifting idol
@faint plover @warped mirage I was going to buy the big pack, but I started to investigate because someone mentioned in a random way on a twitch that EU address, I know many people who already bought the USA pack (because they did not know it was only USA) what do you think will happen when they cannot play in the EU betas? ... have to fix it. Now I'm going to wait for all this to be clarified to the smallest detail, and if my.com is finally the one who continues with the distribution, my confidence in the game in the EU drops enough to do not buy pack ...
wintry seal
i really hope steven gives official statement about the servers and regions in detail before marketing or promoting game, the game is alrdy promoted much and in demand...its time he tells about which regions can play the game so ppl can get to a conclusion before getting too hyped ๐
warped mirage
@drifting idol Well, in worst case scenario you could use EXIT LAG, or VPN to play US Beta to know the game and then transfer account to EU before or after launch, I mean, that could be possible. But that purely speculating and I actually dont like my.com distributing the game in EU, but that is not our decision :/
drifting idol
@drifting idol yea man, i even play the korean version of Lost Ark but, this is not serius, this is an official release.... come on....
hollow gorge
Will certain mounts be required to explore certain regions of the map? Say scaling a mountain would require Mountain Goats or something? I already know about Water mounts to cross oceans and Mole mounts for underground but I was curious how required would animal husbandry be required as an explorative profession.
versed hollow
@hollow gorge apart from Water mounts like you said, we don't know much
hollow gorge
Ok. Thanks
rough sage
is there a video where they explain the carravan system more in detail?
desert ivy
@sour veldt No. Only possible other way of paying is through referring friends to the game. You can't pay with in game currency
rough sage
i really liked a system from an realy old game and want to know how this system will work
sour veldt
Hmm
desert ivy
@wintry seal you can play from anywhere in the world. However, your region may not have its own dedicated server
sour veldt
Is that confirmed bro? @desert ivy
reef osprey
@rough sage what you wanna know?
most information you'll get are already on the wiki
dusty pewter
What would you say is a reasonable time frame for us to find out more in depth info on classes
i.e like details about the dreadnought and spellweaver ect.
rough sage
am i able to just solo a caravan with 1000000000 of goods if there are no thiefs online in a time? ( 4am) for example.
i the game i played your carravan was getting attacked by NPC the more goods you packed in so you only was able to do smaller runs by yourself and needed help for bigger runs even without thief players
reef osprey
@rough sage if nobody attacks you, then you can do it alone certainly
grizzled latch
No plans for artificial attacks as far as I know
Might be implemented though later
rough sage
ah ok so if you take BIIIIG risk in soloing you can get MUCH rewards or fall hard ^^
grizzled latch
If so its probably something like a pat of brigads on the road that you agro on accident
wintry seal
ok if its the case then happy cause someone told i need enough demand on my region to make it available for my region so was worried cause not many gamers here , but thanks @desert ivy
grizzled latch
Well if they nearly solo the caravan and kill you they won't beable to walk off will all the rewards so you may be able to grab some of the caravan back
reef osprey
@grizzled latch they adressed this
desroyed caravans drop certificates for that reason - no pure goods
grizzled latch
Ah i thought it was a mix
rough sage
and then the question what happens after destruction of the carravan?
they grab items into there inventory and run away?
im not able to get the recources back by fighting them because they dont need a carravan wagon?
dusty pewter
@rough sage they just answered that question ๐
bleak merlin
Question: Wondering if there are plans for dance emotes and how they're going to work. Would be racial/gender specific like in other games?
reef osprey
@rough sage they dont need the wagon, no
they loot certificates for goods which they will have to deliver to the caravan origin.
You can kill them and they drop as much as they'd drop from a normal death
rough sage
yea so i understand it right that you can only fill your inventory with goods and dont spawn a carravan to take everything?
ah ok thanks
errant chasm
@sour veldt you can recruit 7 people as long as they sub ur subs free
errant chasm
Yup each month all 7 are subbed ur sub is free
reef osprey
@rough sage your caravan carries like 100+ times the amount your normal inventory dors
sour veldt
Thats really hard to do so 99% its real money
reef osprey
your material inventory will be limited
errant chasm
100% real money as far as they said so far 0 way to turn gold into sub or embers
rough sage
and thats the best way i would say. if you enable gold=time goldbotters will rise more.
errant chasm
If it has something to do with the sub cost being to high they said theyll have region locked relms with lower prices
rough sage
as long i remember right isnt every server region locked?
so if you live in brazil and play on brazil server you pay brazil price but you can switch to europe from brazil and pay europe price + high ping?
so as long there is a server in your near you will have a price thats near the salary of the country?
grizzled latch
Sort of
errant chasm
Nothings region locked unless u want a cheaper price as far as im aware
grizzled latch
Probably only going to be up to 6 regions, so your options for region locked are going to be sparse. NA, SA, EU, Oceanic and one more I can't remember are all the planned regions so far. Not official yet though so don't quote me on it. Thoes are the ones being tossed around as potential.
The last one is russian I think
Maybe a Philippine ish one aswell
rough sage
did they say if the europe servers will have german/french servers?
reef osprey
@rough sage no infos yet
but its very common in my.com games
EU/FR/international usually
stuck girder
If you can have multiple characters on the same server, can you store resources on one and have them 100% safe?
stuck girder
30 characters dedicated to storage 
steel vessel
So does that mean that we can alts? (hoping that yes)
crystal beacon
yes you can have alts, there's just some things like freeholds that are restricted to 1 per account on a server
strong sequoia
If you have the Braver of Worlds Pledge and receive the Dawnbreaker Epic Mount, will the mount be able to fly? Or will the mount be strictly ground until you gain the Royalty status?
dry cipher
I think anything bought is just cosmetic so you would have to have the mount first then apply the skin
strong sequoia
But its not a cosmetic its an actual mount
And it was flying during the latest dev stream
rough sage
they said there are only 3 ways to fly
1 guild leader of keep 5 at a time
2 guild leader of metropolis 5 at a time
3 eggs from legendary bosses eggs have timer that run up
crystal beacon
i was under the impression that those were skins for mounts
rough sage
so there are only 10-20 people per server who can fly
crystal beacon
and when you obtain a flying mount, you can apply the skin
strong sequoia
So even if you have the royalty title from the royalty pledge that doesnt give you flight status correct?
because steven said something about needing royalty status to fly
crystal beacon
royalty means leader of a metropolis or guild castle
rough sage
not sure about the status. i only know about the 3 ways to get a flying mount. and if you as guild leader loose your metropolis you loose the mount too
strong sequoia
So how does the royalty of "leader of metropolis" differ from the Royalty title given from the $2500 pledge
crystal beacon
probably a title saying "hey i'im a huge supporter of this game" is my guess
rough sage
never saw the 2500 pledge ๐
dry cipher
I don't get royalty status from the pack you just get a title which is just a cool name for your character to have
rough sage
yea the 2500 founder cant fly 100% steven often said there are only a few flieng mounts and they all are temporary
rough sage
you cant fly
dry cipher
^^
crystal beacon
well if you could fly, that would be pay to win
rough sage
that would be pay to win and he 100% is against p2W
brittle vector
will the game have a good story line too? or is it just basic quests and more guild/raid/node driven
spiral plaza
Quick Q: Only economic nodes can have auction houses (limited to that nodes zone of influence), right? so in all the other nodes, trade happens just via general chat and player interaction, or are there other marketplace thingeys?
steep fog
it was my understanding that the non economic nodes would still have auction houses, but they would be limited to just that node and not include the nodes under their influence. So much smaller in size. I could be wrong.
reef osprey
@strong sequoia its a skin, not a mount - all kickstarter "mounts" are skins
limber tendon
Hey guys, is there any info on the payment methods for the monthly subscriptions?
dense shore
will the game have a good story line too? or is it just basic quests and more guild/raid/node driven
@brittle vector There will be lore established and quests revolving around the lore, but it's mainly a player driven world
spiral plaza
ty, gotta read up on it more on the wiki @steep fog cheers
grizzled latch
@strong sequoia the dawn breaker skin can be applied to a flying mount if you get one, but gliding mounts are a thing that the general population will be able to achieve. The dawnbreaker skin can be applied to the gilding mounts
There are 4 types of mounts, flying gliding land and aquatic
crystal beacon
How do the gliding mounts work? Do you need to start from a high place such as a mountain?
grizzled latch
I dont think much info has been given on them yet other than their existence
tardy elbow
i have a question about the last video, the gatherer.
Lets make a few statements first, which as far as i know are true.
World bosses drop the "highest tier" resources in the game, which then can be used to craft the end game gear.
Gatherers can not gather resources equal to those end game "god tier" resources.
Gatherers can never be as useful as crafters in that case, unless they could harvest those resources in the world also, but that would make world bosses obsolete.
Even when "end tier" gear requires other gatherable resources, people might not have to specialize in gatherer, to be able to gather those resources. However, most of this information is just not really known yet to the public, so I am really curious if there is already a system in place for this, to make gatherers also important at the latest stage possible.
So the question, Did the devs think about this, or is there already a solution, I didn't hear of yet.
reef osprey
@tardy elbow
World bosses drop the "highest tier" resources in the game, which then can be used to craft the end game gear.
Gatherers can not gather resources equal to those end game "god tier" resources.
That's not confirmed, there might be ultia-rare legendary resources spread around the world
tardy elbow
yes so no body knows yet, so i hope the devs can tackle this question in the next Q&A
reef osprey
Also, you still need materials from gatherers to make top tier items.
The legendary drop from the World boss is just on part of the recipe
lean raptor
@tardy elbow You need resources for other things then highest tier gear aswell
reef osprey
then you'll have to wait for the next QnA question thread in the forum.
They don't really take questions from here
lean raptor
You need resources for all sorts of things like tools, building, other professions etc.
tardy elbow
but eveyrone can become a gatherer, just not specialize in it, so those extra resources you need, besides the god tier resources, might be harvestable for everyone
even if they become specialized in crafting
reef osprey
that's not how it will work no.
You can do basic things in the other professions.
rich kraken
well, gatherers can refine the standard resources further and further untill they are the last tier and the non specialized people can't
lean raptor
There may be rare resources that spawns in the world that only someone that has dedicated a lot of time can gather
tardy elbow
okay, but thats not explained somewhere in detail yet, is it?
reef osprey
wait for one more year and you will have more detailed information
throughout alpha anything might chance anyway
tardy elbow
true, but devs might already have thought about it and i just want to know it :p
grizzled latch
@tardy elbow Gatherers are the ones who can get that special drop from the world boss, so they aren't obsolete endgame...
Or did I misread your question?
crystal beacon
yeah i couldve sworn steven mentioned in an interview that you'd need a god-level gatherer to harvest the god-level mats from world bosses
grizzled latch
They will drop an egg for growing into a mount and a couple other things, but you still need someone to skin it for the scales and what not
glacial sandal
They will drop an egg for growing into a mount
@grizzled latch damn thats neat
tardy elbow
hm i just heared him say that bosses have a chance to drop resources and or full pieces armor
but very rarely
grizzled latch
Yes, most of the reward from killing them will be what can be harvested from the body/lair after death.
tardy elbow
hm alright for some reason ive never heared that yet
distant charm
i know he's stated it before just can't remeber where right now, xD
lean raptor
@tardy elbow It is confirmed that there will be rare one-time gatherables spawning randomly
fathom geyser
How would you guys feel about the level up visual effect leaving an imprint on the ground, during and temporarily afterwards?
fathom geyser
Without permission! The audacity!
crystal beacon
Hey I like to make fan sites and web tools for MMO's are there any programmes in place that offers support for people like me who wish to create fan tools for AoC and where would I apply?
errant quiver
@tardy elbow You can be sure that max-level Gatherers will be harvesting the items the god-tier weapons and armor will use to repair their gear as it takes damage.
slow meadow
@crystal beacon Intrepid aren't supporting third party applications s or providing apis for apps for information from what they've said so I don't think you will get anything there. As for fan site materials I don't think they have anything yet but that would likely come later in development anyway.
hollow ruin
@crystal beacon be careful when you want to make stuff like that. it might be against their ToS
@idle siren what's the process for activating subscribtions? do we activate them each month individually, and if we don't we get locked out of play until we activate again?
if i wanted to do a longer vacation, could i save sub fees that way or does a 1 year sub just last one year without the option to freeze your account?
grizzled latch
@crystal beacon you can look at the communtiy links and community media channels. The people you want to get in contact with would be there.
cold wasp
Question:
Do we know the rate of the gear's power?
For exemple is a max lvl fully geared really more powerful than recent max lvl with no gear. Is there like an average percentage?
An other way to ask this question could be; what makes the biggest difference in terms of power, the character's level or the character's gear?
grizzled latch
Levels will be linear power creep, not exponential. So a few levels diffrence if the lower is more skilled or has better gear for their level they can win all else equal
hollow ruin
@cold wasp probably some hard to get legendary stuff will have an extra bump in power though
grizzled latch
Fresh max vs endgame max the diffrence has not been made yet, that will have to come with further testing and expansions will expand that gap
cold wasp
I hope the power's difference won't be that big, it needs to be based on skilled
grizzled latch
I think Steven said somewhere that it would be less than 50%, but I dont recall when/where
crystal beacon
thanks
grizzled latch
@cold wasp also to note, just because your adventure class is maxed out does not mean your other avenues are. Traders/thieves/merchant/religious faction levels will play a part in your characters development.
cold wasp
@grizzled latch yes, which is good
I was asking this more for the pvp content in game, the siege etc
grizzled latch
Due to the rock paper scissors aspect of class fights skill will probably be far more useful than gear in pvp. Knowing what players to avoid and which ones to target is going to be much more important.
crystal beacon
How many characters can we create in a server?
grizzled latch
Still TBD
crystal beacon
I see ty
junior ore
It will be more than 1 and we suspect less than 8 to keep meta rerolls from being as big of a deal
Stevens quote was it was more than 1 and a comfortable amount โโ give or take the verbiage
cold wasp
@grizzled latch yes, it's just I don't want to feel like in wow retail, where when have been missing for one season u have half other player's life in pvp
grizzled latch
Yeah as planned for now, that type of thing won't happen.
junior ore
Gear will make up a good chunk of the power gap but we have no clue the difference between pieces of gear and probably wonโt until near launch
crystal beacon
"We will be providing combat data for individual players in their chat window, that players can filter and analyze for themselves."
Do you think or have read anything if this will include a DPS number?
grizzled latch
It will not
junior ore
It might to an extent.
grizzled latch
not enough to have an app read it to make a dps meter
junior ore
It really depends what that data is exactly
Itโs can be a dps meter. Has nothing to do with api and combat logs with third party apps
acoustic elk
@crystal beacon When did that get posted?
round radish
Will each race spawn in a specific node/area? And if so can you just straight up head in a direction to a node faraway and be able to start progressing there or will you have to be in your starting node for a while?
dense shore
You can run off and venture anywhere, except island nodes as you'll need a ship ๐
small pecan
Each race technically has a specific starting area! But you can choose any on character creation. You can just go off on your own adventure!
fair yew
You spawn at a divine gateway or Tulanar starting area. You pick
junior ore
Yes
round radish
Awsome
cold wasp
@round radish I red there will be some starting zones, and you will be able to chose the one you want (for exemple if u wanna play with friends and difference races)
I'm not sure, if someone could confirm
dense shore
Yes, you can choose in which area to start (either your race's or another) and from there on you can walk anywhere you want to go
junior ore
Races have a designated area but you can start anywhere of the 4 gateways you wish with any race
dense shore
round radish
Ty!
dense shore
Starting areas are also not nodes, but made to accommodate new players into Ashes of Creation
so if you think you can handle the big bad world, go for it ๐
agile parrot
Now here's something I've been thinking about given the raw number of classes and possible playstyles. How is the "Meta Play" avoided? For example: in games with multiple classes, when running a dungeon, players refuse to play with certain classes, and prefer other members of the party play only with classes "in the meta."
This creates a disconnect between what the player wants to play vs what the player 'should' play. Given the heavy tendency to lean towards fairness, and quality of life in AOC, I would imagine there would be a system in place to keep a "hard meta" from happening in the first place. Thoughts?
crystal beacon
Can we swim in the ocean to get to the other part of the world map instead using of ships?
small pecan
I know one small thing is that each class has utility skills, which makes having one of each offer a generally more rewarding/potentially easier dungeon! And thatโs why the group size is 8
dense shore
Can we swim in the ocean to get to the other part of the world map instead using of ships?
There's a swimming video, where he goes underwater and you can drown, but not sure if you can die to fatigue ๐
small pecan
We just saw swimming on the last livestream! Not sure how far weโll b able to go
If itโs like ArcheAge, you can probably just swim everywhere very slowly
junior ore
Class utility skills only viable to 8 primary. Diversification of dungeons ai resistances and such, synergy that makes more than just dps viable to be more efficient. I.e true buff debuffs
crystal beacon
@dense shore Ohh thank you. I didnt see the swimming video.
crystal beacon
Thank you
grizzled latch
@round radish fyi while you can probably leave the starting zone immediately it would probably be better to do a few quests there first as thats where you will attain your first mount.:)
crystal beacon
Maybe we can swim all over the map without using ships. If theres a mechanic which ships will be destroy in the middle of the ocean.
grizzled latch
Ships will be able to be destroyed, aquatic mounts will be your saving grace
crystal beacon
Ohh now that you mention the mounts, that make sense
tall beacon
Outside of custom UI look. Will we be able to move ui elements around. Similar to FF14?
full badger
Yes
tall beacon
sick
cold wasp
Will there be something like good and bad action that has consequences. Like price with some NPCs that raises etc?
I'm not talking for the pvp, but for the pve aspect
full badger
@cold wasp
rare apex
Are there any details on the artisan Alchemy? Like are you able to make health potions or only buff potions?
full badger
@rare apex We have very few details about any the crafting stuff right now, sorry
round radish
@round radish fyi while you can probably leave the starting zone immediately it would probably be better to do a few quests there first as thats where you will attain your first mount.:)
@grizzled latch ok thnx for the headsup
cold wasp
@full badger OK tkx, but how to get to the hate list?
Here I was talking more about if u have to bring back an item, and that for exemple u prefere to sell it
rare apex
@full badger NP
full badger
@cold wasp What I linked in all the information we have regarding reputations with NPCs
grizzled latch
You can complete quests for the evil gods, instead of the good ones if you want.
hushed girder
When I'm in ashes of creation can i see the top of mountains from the ground
like the base of the mountain not far away
distant charm
anyone got the wiki/discord command link to professions/artisans that are being or could be going in to the game?
full badger
@distant charm https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes
distant charm
thx
woeful rain
dumb question but i'll get an email when i get access to alpha1 right?
crystal flax
Yea, if you have one of the earlier testing phases they'll email you about the NDA
slow meadow
yes, they will email you with instructions
sacred bloom
Wait theres an NDA for alpha 1
radiant shale
is the shop working atm? I tried buying a preorder pack 2 days ago and got reimbursed
crystal flax
@sacred bloom Only for the leading up QA bits
sacred bloom
Oh ok is there a rough time period where it will be lifted?
crystal flax
Once A1 is in full force there'll be no NDA
reef osprey
@distant charm nice name
those are mere examples, we haven't received the full list of professions yet
slow meadow
@hushed girder if you check out the pre-alpha 4k video on the ashes youtube channel you can get an idea for some of the scale in the game. about 50 minutes in there is some flying where you can see both large rock formations as well as mountains in the distance.
hollow elm
What game would give you the best similar feeling as ashes, in terms of movement and maybe combat? Ark was my thought -the dinosaurs and no magic, the swimming clip of ashes looks and feels like ark, any other games that would fit?
desert ivy
Ark definitely wouldn't
No where near the same
There's not really anything that's comparable to Ashes combat yet, especially because we don't know exactly how it'll feel
slow meadow
hard to say since they are mixing action and tab targeting combat. maybe a bit of tera since they have action and some lock on abilities, a bit of bdo possibly but with a longer ttk, so no real direct analog.
plus we only have the very first iteration of combat and its going to evolve quite a bit over the two alphas.
hollow elm
I mean I was just comparing the ground 3rd person movement and swimming to ark because they look identical
junior ore
Maybe the swimming but thatโs the first iteration but the running movement in ark just floats across the ground ashes movement animations are not done and are significantly better than that
ivory pumice
Has it been said if the Voyager Pre-Order pack will be taken away (Alpha 2 access) as Alpha 2 approaches (in the same way that Alpha 1 access is not available)?
steady ocean
The devs have only said they will give us plenty of warning if they plan to remove alpha access @ivory pumice
ivory pumice
Thanks!
round tangle
So I saw on the wiki that having a summoner as a secondary class letโs you summon weapons? Is that all or am I reading it wrong
steady ocean
We don't have much information right now, as we don't know how the augments will affect the primary archetype skills. We will find out more in Alpha 2 when we get to test the classes.
slow meadow
@round tangle one example given for that was a fighter with a forward slashing ability that augmented it with summoner, changing it to a "summoned" blade at an extended distance from you. so not a permanent summon in that case. keep in mind that is just one example they gave and there will be various augments available but they did indicate that it likely wont be granting every archetype summons.
bleak merlin
Question: Wondering if there are plans for dance emotes and how they're going to work. Would be racial/gender specific like in other games?
slow meadow
@bleak merlin here is what we know at this time https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Social_animations
bleak merlin
@bleak merlin here is what we know at this time https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Social_animations
@slow meadow Thanks!
light plinth
Hello! I have a question about Pre-Order Packโs cosmetics. I previously bought a package but I don't like the cosmetics that came with it. I would like to change to this month's cosmetics but I can't find the purchase option on the store. Where should I be looking?
steady ocean
You can only buy new indivdual cosmetics, and not change them.
woven vale
You can purchase individual cosmetics of the same tier.
You may not exchange older cosmetics for newer ones.
steady ocean
Which pack did you buy? @light plinth
steady ocean
the $150? This will give you an idea of the new cosmetics you can buy in the new pack.
light plinth
Thank you that's very helpful!
steady ocean
So you can buy the individual accessory and pet from the new cosmetic theme. Otherwise you will need to upgrade your pack to the next tier to get the other cosmetics.
light plinth
So the Prickly Pollywog is the pet?
Ah okay I see it now...
Awesome thank you so much!!
steady ocean
Remember you will only get the new cosmetics by upgrading. You can't get past cosmetics at this point.
light plinth
Yep for sure. I just thought I had the Mount with my package but I guess I didn't ๐
I just don't want to be in the Alpha test.
reef osprey
why wouldn't you want that?
light plinth
Mostly because I'm not a great tester.
And the company could benefit better from good testers.
reef osprey
You don't necessairly need to be a good tester.
You being alone already provides data for them.
They clearly don't mind more testers until they are thinking about closing the sales of the testing access
proven root
sort of feeling the same, so i wonder if they'll adjust future pre order packs when alpha 2 is done to maybe only include the betas, but have all 6 cosmetic pieces
worthy scarab
Iโll be a good tester Iโm just poor ๐ญ
steady ocean
Alpha 2 will most likely last until launch @proven root The Beta servers will be separate from the Alpha 2 server from what we know currently.
proven root
will the betas last til launch too?
slow meadow
no the alpha 2 server is meant to be persistent and transition in to the PTS. betas will be temporary
steady ocean
It's unknown at this point. There was talk that the beta servers will not be persistent and will be more focused testing for specific game mechanics and stress testing. We will need to get more clarification from the devs to be sure though
reef osprey
beta's still be spot and weekend tests on seperate servers from the A2
that's what was originally stated at least
proven root
๐good to know
low path
So the alpha 2 is live until launch, will the alpha 2 servers update so that they have the same content as the beta servers as those come out?
steady ocean
We don't have those details at this time I don't think @low path
low path
Thanks!
gentle briar
So will mage or bard pre 25 be able to melee weapons effectively m
Kinda concerns me
We don't have an auto feature so I'm mostly worried how the skills come out
steady ocean
@gentle briar We will be able to see during alpha-1 testing luckily! Be sure to check out and support the content creators once the NDA is lifted. I'm sure all archetypes will be featured ๐
Each class has a weapon attack skill, so even if we can't auto attack, we can still attack via the skill.
gentle briar
Ye ik just worried
Because if I can use a rapier or like a big hammer
I'm set
I do know that they said supports aren't weak in this game n still hit hard so going bard n cleric interests me but 
Not a fan of bows or rods in general so I hope using melee weps
slow meadow
anyone can use any weapon, how that fits in to your build and how effective you can be will vary based on abilities you put points in and the augments you pick up from your secondary. as example you may be able to play a tank without a shield but you would want to avoid any abilities dependent on a shield (like a shield bash).
gentle briar
Yes n I hope that it works that way unless core skills are all needing that main generic wep
Unless we will need to swap mid combat to utilize that every weapon feel vibe
Due to some core skills only being usable with certain weapons that are probably meant for the main class
low path
I dont think any if the skills rely on a certain weapon as far as I know
crystal beacon
^ Steven has said that there are synergies that work around weapons
steady ocean
A good example would be a ranger. They have both melee and range skills, but can't use range skills if they have a sword equipped.
crystal beacon
^
coral raven
Anyone know what type of instrument/weapon bards will use? I know that it was said they will be deep in combat and not passively buffing.
steady ocean
They will spar with a pen and their words, huzzah! (I'm not sure if anyone knows the best weapon type)
feral mural
are people still able to play that apocalypse thing
desert ivy
Nope, servers got taken down in March
feral mural
are they gonna go back up when the mmo alpha test comes around
desert ivy
They may come back after alpha 1
woeful vector
Any way we can see how much funding AoC has from KS and Stevens investment?
steady ocean
I do not believe the full number is public.
woeful vector
Okay I understand. Thank you
steady ocean
You can estimate if you take a look at the kickstarter campaigns though, and combine it with the 30mm figure Steven gave.
steady ocean
There was also the summer backer campaign, and the current pre-order campaign (this is why it is tricky to get a total number).
desert ivy
The last number we got that Steven funded personally was $40m. 4m from the kickstarter, and way more through the packs on the store
I think someone did a bit of math a couple years back estimating the amount backed by supporters so far
but not accurate most likely
woeful vector
So its safe to say that thereโs at least somewhere around up to $60mil if we factor in the recent hype created by larger streamers?
Okay awesome
I was initially worried because I didnโt see how 33mil could possibly make AoC with all its promised features
But 60mil is pretty good
oak depot
apparently developers are cheap ๐
desert ivy
Steven is also willing to put however much is needed to make the game
woeful vector
I think WoW was somewhere around $60mil. Bless Online also
Btw $3million from KS isnt a lot of money for a game dev company. $7mil gets you Chronicles of Elyria ๐
But anyways, thank you for answering my questions
gaunt haven
I don't think chronicles of Elyria reached 1 mil
tropic forum
Are characters in Ashes going to be server bound?
hmmm... have they mentioned how many servers on launch
yea i figured
OH for sure
well they already got 375 from me ๐
gentle briar
Bleh I'm just hoping weapon choices are viable and not just a niche thing
Oh you can equip this but you can't use like 80% of your skills 
winter field
tank with a staff and shield lol
tropic forum
but i also appreciate the option to have weapon specific skills
crude sapphire
i mean..
gentle briar
G2w does it somewhat but their weapons have skills attached to em already
crude sapphire
backstab with staff
steady ocean
@gentle briar It will depend if they include weapons to be based off of stats that are associated with different classes. For example, a sword that boosts spell users' stats, or a staff that boosts dex based skills. Hopefully we will be able to see in the Alphas
crude sapphire
like thatโs jsut wack
tropic forum
@steady ocean i believe something like that would be more in the enchantment
gentle briar
@steady ocean mostly worried if the skills can be used properly. The stats can be changed to whatever stat you want
crude sapphire
^^
tropic forum
which would make sense as EK pointed out
gentle briar
As long as there are enough skills that'll make it just as viable then sure but just worried rn
crude sapphire
meh the alpha 1 will decide
gentle briar
Probably next month but ugh wish we had another ama
crude sapphire
wait so as ppl stream alpha 1 are we safe to assume that the kit of the class will stay the same?
tropic forum
Completely agree... but that also does open a cool aspect of character abilities if you could not only swap weapons for auto but also a portion of your abilities
Like Steven always says.. Blurr that line
gentle briar
Because if there is enough room for viability between skill choices to make room for weapon choices and stack weapon effects with those then awesome but if it's only use main weapon primarily and maybe swap to a secondary for the effect it gives like bleed or something then ugh
tropic forum
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
steady ocean
@crude sapphire skills most likely won't change, but they may be rebalanced or receive tweaks.
gentle briar
Kinda shooked that I haven't seen it asked it yet in interviews
slow meadow
@crude sapphire alpha 1 isn't the entire progression either, its progression up to level 20 so you wont be seeing the full base kit either
open snow
Question about running a tavern: Mechanic for roommates/partners/employees to keep it open while owner is offline?
vernal salmon
If my.com is a disaster when game releases, will it be possible to transfer to Na which has better host?
tacit summit
I know that Addons have been discouraged for AoC, but leaderboards have been confirmed. Are there going to be Killboards or a kill tracker for open world PvP?
wraith elbow
so when is the earliest that the masses will be able to play this game? a year from now? will there be a wipe from beta to full release?
steady iron
how can i change my name in aoc form ?
wary steppe
Have there been any talk about possible cross server events? For instance, say server x has a metro under one religion and server y has a different metro devoted to an opposing religion, would there be the possibility of server invasions?
steady ocean
@steady iron I believe you need to login to the intrepid site, and you can change it from there. https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/profile
wary steppe
Or is all content held independent to respective servers?
steady ocean
All content is locked to that server, as nodes are something that will be different across all servers.
slow meadow
@wraith elbow Alpha 1 will be this fall with no NDA, that is the only date currently available. Beyond that everything will be wiped prior to launch. There is currently no plan for an open beta so without a pack that includes testing the masses wont have access. Subject to change and all that as its still a long way off.
wraith elbow
@slow meadow thanks! figured it was a year or more away.
crystal beacon
I would like to say thanks for making this game. I'm so hype to try this game on release. All your systems, interactions, and mechanics within the game are perfect for all types of players from PVE, PVP, and RP. My question is how would you guys save the game from failing if you encounter the WildStar problem. The WildStar problem was 2 main things
- They wanted their game to be a PVX (40 MAN EPIC RAIDS AND 40 V 40 GUILD WARS) as well but the player base was dying and only left the majority PVE. Would you guys change the direction of the game to grow in that direction or try to fix the problem?
2)The SUPER main reason why the game died was that they had TOO MANY players coming into their game. They decided to make more realms. FOR EXAMPLE, in the initial release of the game they had one realm called NA1 with capacity of 1000 players and two more with the same capacity NA2 and NA3. The solution now, do you make NA4 to add your new 1000 players? They did that but now their player base was splitting up. Then players stop playing now you have 4 dying severs. What would you guys do to solve this problem? I think increasing the server capacity from 1000 to 2000 is a great solution.
I just don't want your game to be the next wildstar but all your system requires a healthy playerbase to really feel and enjoy your awesome game. I believe you guys can be the WOW KILLER or least 3 best MMO of all time. Have a nice day and stay safe ๐
limber silo
Only WOW itself will ever be a WOW Killer
and thats also not something any game should aim for tbh
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon welcome ^^ This channel is for the community members to answer questions, so if you want a Dev's opinion your chances here are pretty slim, I'd recommend trying the forums
junior ore
40v40 guild wars is laughable content people crave the big fights beyond the daily arena and 1v1 encounters.
onyx knoll
That being said, they don't aim to be a WoW killer, as Steven has said; They're trying to make something pretty different that fits a different group of players then WoW
crystal beacon
ok thank
pseudo nest
they said they would merge the servers if any of them were ever dying
but they were also not going to go too overboard with servers in the first place
slow meadow
@crystal beacon 1) They are building to be true PvX with pvp being a core part of the game and by having an open and transparent development process to refine the systems so that it is successful. They also have a business plan that doesn't require a playerbase of millions to be financially successful.
- The servers will house ~50k players with 8-10k concurrent connections. Server mergers are possible if there are low pop servers but that will be handled should it actually occur, which is a bit less likely with the volume of players the server can hold.
This is from some of the statements they have made in the past but is a big topic so its not exhaustive for your question.
crystal beacon
I saw the lazypeon vid then asamongold interview this game got me hyped
see yall in 2022
rough current
same lol
woeful vector
Do we know if we need to restock arrows in our quivers?
Some MMOโs just have the quiver give stats with infinite amount of arrows where others make you replenish arrows through crafting or loot
past pewter
Let me add to your question: Are there going to be throwable weapon types as well (knives/darts/etc.)?
woeful vector
I guess if potion launchers throw potions then its highly likely weโll also need to replenish arrows
crystal beacon
Thats a good question. Im curious as well
woeful vector
Cant have infinite arrows and potion launchers dont get infinite potions
slow meadow
you can see a list of weapons here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons no thrown weapons. looking for a quote on ammo
woven vale
Yeah, most of the time I find ammo an inconvenience
Potion Launchers could make the base free and the rest cost though
That would be a bit of a pain to balance.
stray robin
Ammo would be cool if there was different types instead of "Stone arrow +3 dmg" "Metal arrow +4 dmg"
slow meadow
found it, mana is ammo
woven vale
'Special Bankrupting Arrow of Hoarding': +5 Attack, Cost: Your Soul and 10 hours.
stray robin
Ranged weapon is a slot for all characters, has it been stated if casters are going to get wands like WoW? Or is everyone going to be rocking a bow for stats and the occasional mana arrow?
wintry moat
@wicked beacon what kind of requirements ?
rigid rose
@stray robin there are wands.
wicked beacon
graphic requirements for the pc.
round tangle
Will crafting be available in alpha 2
wintry moat
@wicked beacon idk it isn't out yet
onyx knoll
@wicked beacon we don't have numbers for launch, but here are the current requirement for alpha: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha_testing_system_requirements
slow meadow
@round tangle yes, as a portion of crafting and the artisan classes will be in alpha-1 it will be more fleshed out by alpha-2
round tangle
Cool
hazy furnace
What's with the Tulnar do not equal furries statement on the wiki? I know, not important, just curious.
slow meadow
@stray robin there are multiple types of ranged weapons available.
hazy furnace
Makes sense now that you said it, sorry.
wicked beacon
xD
wintry moat
@simple ether why not
we need goldshire in aoc
why not having a oversexualized fox/cat girls
@simple ether let's do it
wicked beacon
when will the alpha come out?
slow meadow
alpha-1 starts this fall without the NDA. some under NDA QA testing with higher backers has been and will continue to happen until then.
hollow wadi
is there anywere I can buy Intrepid Studios Stocks? Looking to get rich at the same time the game releases but want to buy stocks early so they grow with the game ^^
slow meadow
company is privately owned, so no
wanton cosmos
Samee
glacial coyote
Just found out about this game from some friends a few days ago and started looking into it. As someone that played Lineage 2 for about 13 years I'm really hoping this game can bring to the table what L2 did for so many years. I'm not sure what chronicles Steven played but I hope he at least kept up with the game to see where ncsoft really screwed the pooch and ruined what made the game great.
old ermine
Do we know how leveling with higher/lower leveled friends is going to be in this game? Like if I'm starting out at level 10 and my level 30 friend wants to play together with me, will they just not get any experience from killing things with me that are my level? Will there be some kind of level sync so that different leveled people can play together and both benefit?
onyx knoll
@old ermine We don't know in details but we know there will be a mentoring system for if you're much higher then someone but want to play with them
proven arrow
It is gonna be similar to other mmos without scaling
old ermine
Interesting. Thank you!
onyx knoll
anytime ^^
dreamy temple
oak depot
what are the "Pros" of being a citizen of a Vassal Node?
steady ocean
It may be the next best thing if there are no more citizenship slots in the parent node @oak depot Less chance of being targeted in a node war/siege as well.
old ermine
If a node is capped and is both a vassal and has its own vassals, any experience earned from itself or its Vassals is first applied to its own deficit. Experience beyond that is then sent to its parent node. from the wiki
So you're essentially a citizen contributing to the parent node anyways if your vassal node is capped out
oak depot
right, but how does that benefit you
old ermine
Maybe what TavernSideGaming said, that there's a limit of population. Cheaper housing, less premiums
like living in the suburbs instead of downtown
oak depot
@steady ocean lists one pro which basically says "it's better than nothing"
chilly hedge
Access to housing.
Ability to participate in mayoral elections.
Access to wars between cities.
If you're not a citizen, you can't help defend the town as far as I know.
old ermine
Also some quests are only available to citizens
unreal zealot
if your a citizen of a vassel node would have have a similar kind of citizen ship with the parent node minus the housing or anything?
oak depot
I don't think you gain citizenship to the parent node from being a vassal node citizen
it might be cool if they had a system where as the parent node advances and more housing opens up, vassal node citizens get first dibs... but it doesn't exist AFAIK
unreal zealot
well what i mean is not housing but quest and building access
chilly hedge
We'll have to wait for the systems to be implemented before we can see where the limits lie.
old ermine
Do we know how much of the node systems will be playable in alpha 1?
chilly hedge
Since Alpha 1 doesn't have an NDA, you may get all your questions answered in a month or two.
old ermine
I know they're keeping story quests locked down for now
unreal zealot
im thinking more o nthe lines of a Visa kind of relationship with the parent node to allow you to work for them or what ever
oak depot
Alpha 1 caps node growth to a max of Stage 3 I believe
unreal zealot
maybe if they allow tolls for the mayor to set up for entry as well to help taxes citizens dont pay a toll and vassel nodes pay a smaller ammount than someone who isnt rlated to the zoi on the parent node
old ermine
So we'll be able to see some of the citizenship systems in alpha 1 then. That's awesome
Looks like we won't be able to see vassal node citizenship at that point though, since you can only become a citizen of a stage 3 or above node
chilly hedge
Probably best to move this to #aoc-discussion
long eagle
What happens if two groups are fighting a raid boss and one of them wipes? Does this mean they wont get any loot?
chilly hedge
That depends on the damage they've done.
If you tag the boss first and do 40% damage, you get the loot. If you didn't tag first and do 55% damage, you also get the loot.
Whether you wipe or not doesn't seem to matter in that case, as long as the boss goes down.
For sure, I'm just trying to give a ballpark at least xP
tribal solar
Can a Summer backer confirm if they can still upgrade their pack to get Alpha 1 access? I know that Kickstarter backers still can.
Oh, nice! Ty!
crystal beacon
you can have 41/59 "tie" as well xd
unreal zealot
while that is true you have to remember it will more likley be tag team does 40.56% while non taggers do 59.44% damage your rounding it up to whole %'s not rmembering the in betweens
crystal beacon
ofc tie will never happes since target will have tons of health, just sayin making it 41 from 40% doesnt matter
unreal zealot
oh ok gotcha ;P
fading needle
What do you all think would be the best race for tanks :) I would have money on the Ren Kai
torpid venture
This may have been asked before but will Mayors be able to embezzle tax money?
Asking for a friend
snow storm
@torpid venture no, taxes are locked for node use
torpid venture
Cool, one less thing to worry about
snow storm
Castles on the other hand
The guild leader is able to use some for whatever they want, if they want a big payday, it's currently allowed
reef osprey
@snow storm
that has an easy fix though:
don't take a castle for a guildleader you don't trust
when you can't trust him that far, then you should probably look for another guild
snow storm
Right
onyx knoll
@fading needle We don't have any idea what the racial bonuses will be at this point so it's impossible to say. If you want to discuss hypothesis I recommend you head down to #aoc-discussion ๐
final oxide
will aoc be able to be windowed
solar zodiac
Is there a media kit available?
red jetty
@final oxide very likely
slow meadow
its built on UE4 and was present in APOC so I think its a safe bet @final oxide
@solar zodiac game is still in pre-alpha, so they haven't put much time into marketing materials, so no media kit
solar zodiac
๐ฆ Rip
slow meadow
@solar zodiac there's quite a bit of art and other assets on the wiki and videos on their youtube channel that you can use.
onyx knoll
@solar zodiac I don't think so but you can try pinging LieutenantToast, she might have something or sending an e-mail to pr@intrepidstudios.com which is their press contact info
prisma finch
Will melee classes have animation cancels? worst thing in any game is being movement locked in an animation and having to watch yourself die to a mechanic you could dodge.
tawny horizon
So when you pick your second class it doesnโt give you new abilities just modifies your existing ones. like a battlemage wont have a new skill that neither the mage or fighter get
desert ivy
Correct
slow meadow
@prisma finch press your buttons carefully. dont smash them
grizzled ingot
thank god. animation cancel, wave dash, butterfly, all that shit is fun but not RPG at all
dusk falcon
Heyo! anyone know when name rez starts?
prisma finch
being able to dodge out of animations is not game breaking to have, just less punishing
wanton cosmos
Hey, is the connat going to be tweaked so that it feels more fluid?
It just seems so locked in place in the dev streams
slow meadow
@wanton cosmos combat is just on its first iteration and has a long way to go. both on the integrating action and tab front as well as animations.
grizzled ingot
Will it actually be impossible to master more than 1 artisan class? Or just exponetially harder after the first?
slow meadow
@grizzled ingot you can master a few of the professions within one artisan path, but not all of them.
wanton cosmos
I've seen some of the apocalypse gameplay, and while I know that doesnt really represent the game, but it just looks so much more fluid
grizzled ingot
Ahh so you can become a master gatherer (in multiple areas: mining, woodcutting) but then can't also become a master blacksmith
dope
faint plover
@simple ether I see you are 100% in questions about Ashes. Please, tell me why is the correct answer to the number of religions 7? I found on the wiki number 6. ๐
radiant shale
how would one go about binge watching / consuming all information currently available on AoC? :3
wanton cosmos
When are people going to start streaming alpha 1? I heard some backers are already in
When is that though...
kind cloud
alpha1 is out?
wanton cosmos
For some backers
onyx knoll
@wanton cosmos sometime in fall, no date yet
dreamy path
how do I open nick nacks
onyx knoll
uuh... what?
trail knot
Nick nack patty wack give a dog a bone ?
edgy socket
Any chance Intrepid will get some other form of payment system? Xsolla locked my card right as my bank closed today when I went to purchase a preorder. Other game companies in the past have run into issues with them (Battlestate games).
coarse belfry
is the artisan class progression level-locked? If so, does crafting provide enough general xp for leveling? Basically I want to know if someone can go completely pacifist and just spend all their time on a profession
half apex
In theory yes i think. But you have to live with gankers, once you geather high rank materials. Also there is experiance debt on death. So it's not an easy way.
indigo obsidian
experience debt? so if i die at lv 1 i will have experience debt?
reef osprey
prolly not a whole lot
indigo steeple
What server hosts are they using
crystal flax
If you're level 1 there won't be a lower level to accrue debt for, I imagine
indigo obsidian
minus levels 
indigo steeple
ok good
half apex
No. There won't be lvl lose The exp dept work in a way you need to nullify it to continue progressing.
stoic charm
Has there been confirmed experience debt to the point of level loss?
red jetty
@stoic charm if you have a high enough corruption possibly
indigo steeple
hopefully they work on the servers ALOT because i have seen alot of games die cause of bad server
onyx knoll
@stoic charm you don't lose levels but the higher your dept, the more penalties you'll have. So you might have the stats of a lvl 47 at lvl 50, but you'll still be able to use your lvl 50 gear
stoic charm
Interesting. Will we be able to accrue positive xp buffer then? Or will we eventually stop gaining xp and then get debt when we die?
gleaming bay
if i got the 75$ wayfarer edition, would i be able to play right now?
gleaming bay
ok thank you for the clarifacation
indigo steeple
damn only if i had $10000 in 2017
stoic charm
Pay in 2017, play in 2020, pay in 2020, play in 2023 EZ clap.
wintry river
How are people talking about these insane amounts of money for a beta to game no one knows about.... this is kinda absurd
stoic charm
Does that include unlimited sub forevre?
wintry river
Like a normal game is $10-$60 wtf how can you justify $500 on a video game
stoic charm
1000$ is only 5 years of sub ๐
keen cliff
And the answer is that some people are that passionate about it.
stoic charm
Paid sub for wow for 15 years.... had i paid 1000$ then i woulda been hella winning.
desert ivy
I've spent close to $1k so far 
wintry river
This why no one plays mmos lol ok have fun when this comes out in 2 years
desert ivy
Scratch that, I have spent more than 1k 
indigo steeple
This why no one plays mmos lol ok have fun when this comes out in 2 years
@wintry river rather have a unique game than the same battle royal bullshit
also most new games are $40-80 and you spend just as much for in game stuff
take COD warzone for example
free game but paid battle pass
brittle ferry
No box price for AoC, subscription only
wintry river
Yeah so 9 year olds can get skins... but a normal person who works 8-5 cant honestly justify that amount of money
onyx knoll
please leave this channel clear for questions ๐
wanton obsidian
TeslaX this game is only $14.99* per month
lime skiff
Are we going to be able to put the same skill but with different ranks on our skillbar?? Like I saw the target grip for the tank spec and at Rank 1 it has only one target but at rank 3 it grips 5. It would be cool to have that things like wow had in Vanilla
silent pilot
I wonder if there are steal or pickpocket mechanics.
civic obsidian
there wont at least from what i remember reading on the wiki @silent pilot
onyx knoll
@silent pilot all we know is that you can't pickpocket players but that migth imply you could pickpocket NPC. That isn't confirmed tho
silent pilot
Oh Thanks for the info. ๐
desert ivy
@lime skiff I don't think that's how skills work in Ashes. In Ashes, you upgrade your skills by investing skill points into them, I don't think you retain past skill ranks after investing points into them
fair jasper
So question, if I tame an animal in the wild. Does it become a mount, pet, or something else entirely? Also, I was wondering if you can tame an animal and use it as a "battle pet" or "companion" or if that is something that Beastmaster could do. Probably not, but just thoughts.
So is it a possibility to use it as a "companion"?
half apex
@fair jasper idk about companion, but once you tame a type of animal, it gets into your own database as known, you can change the summoner's summon, to that look.
fair jasper
@half apex @simple ether @grizzled latch
Thanks so much for the clarification!
onyx knoll
@fair jasper every class can use a combat pet, not just summoner. Summoner get their own special ones, but you could tame and breed combat pet that fit the need of individuals, like a tanky pet for a squishy mage etc. Combat pets offer versatility but they take away some of the stats of their owner as a way to balance them. So they're a gameplay choice basically. See more here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pets#Combat_pets
tacit veldt
Can I master both Taming and Animal Husbandry?
onyx knoll
no
tacit veldt
sad
onyx knoll
well, not on one character
You could be master tamer on your main and have a master animal husbandry alt
tacit veldt
that was all I wanted out of the game
onyx knoll
You can still tame stuff on a Master animal husbandry, you just won't be able to get the really good stuff that a Master tamer could
tacit veldt
I know
woven vale
You can be a jack of all trades or a master of one.
Allowing someone to master multiple things is a giant middle finger to social interaction.
onyx knoll
You can be a master of more then 1 artisan job, just has to be within the same branch of it
woven vale
^
onyx knoll
but yeah, the goal is to encourage people to make friends ๐
fair jasper
@onyx knoll Thanks!
hollow gorge
yeah I'm mainly focused on animal husbandry
errant chasm
wait @onyx knoll can you clarify that a bit more like what 2 would work together?
hollow gorge
I'd love a master tamer friend to help me out 
onyx knoll
@errant chasm you mean what two job could you master? Basically the artisan tree is split into 3 branches; gathering, processing and crafting. Each of these branch will have multiple paths, so for exemple gathering would have herbing, lumberjack, mining, fishing etc. You can only be a Master in one of the Branches, but within that branch you could master more then one path
SO you could be a master miner + fisher
but not Miner + blacksmith
half apex
You can only master 1 type out of geather,proces, craft
onyx knoll
Steven has said you'll be able to master more then one, but we don't know the number yet
errant chasm
ohhh
half apex
Once you choose. The types belongs to it can all be mastered
errant chasm
i thought u were limited to 1 per branch
hollow gorge
I thought you were limited to 1 in general
errant chasm
like had to do 1,1,1 didnt know u could do 2,0,0
hollow gorge
like 0,1,0
rare geyser
will there be a pvp arena?
hollow gorge
I see ๐ค so basically not many people will go for processing
since there is only 2 you can master
onyx knoll
by the big boss himself ^
@hollow gorge we don't have the full list of jobs yet, processing will have more then 2
onyx knoll
I expect at least something that can process lumber into planks, leather into hides, potentially meat/grain into cuts/flour etc
Wiki only lists two because those are the two we got verbal confirmation of
placid agate
Where's the best place to find out when alpha and beta dates are released?
hollow gorge
possible something to process plants into fine powder or paste for alchemy etc..
๐ค
placid agate
Tyvm @onyx knoll
half apex
@hollow gorge in the process parental type there is no limit how much type you master
onyx knoll
@half apex yes there is
hollow gorge
well me being me, I'm probably going to end up going full face into animal husbandry
onyx knoll
@half apex see the image i linked just above
tulip hatch
@rare geyser yes there will be arenas
half apex
The wiki is in front of me
onyx knoll
This was literally said by Steven a couple days ago tho, idk how you want it to be more legit xD
half apex
"You may spend time to mastering each proffesion within a parental artisan path" this is what Steven said
hollow gorge
but not all
onyx knoll
he's allowed to change the systems, this is still way early in development
I'm just trying to give the most recent info ๐
tulip hatch
Anything and everything is subject to change throughout the course of development.
Many things still need to be clarified
half apex
Then it's a thing need to be corrected on the wiki in this topic @onyx knoll
plucky pawn
I'm sure the folks who run and contribute to the wiki would love for additional contributions on that matter ๐
from what I've seen, it's definitely a community effort for all the information that's in there 
onyx knoll
I mentioned it to Lex but he said that it had been added, might just be on a different page? But anyway, back to questions!
tulip hatch
The new quote is there yes
onyx knoll
ah yes, i see it, #30
near horizon
I'm hella confused, I bought the game on the intrepid store a week ago and now I'm reading that there is the publisher my.games for europe and eu people are waiting to buy it there? Will I be able to play EU if I bought it on the intrepid store page?
tulip hatch
The wiki needs a clear quote from steven stating that the old info is no longer valid before removing it
It's how they run it
onyx knoll
@near horizon Yes, you'll be able to transfer it over
near horizon
how would I transfer it?
tulip hatch
@near horizon you'll be able to transfer to eu once intrepid implements that system.
near horizon
ah okay
seems I still have some time to decide wether I'll stick with na or go for eu
crystal beacon
Damn I was hoping latest year and a half
errant chasm
might be in beta at that point
woven vale
I'd wager earliest is 2 years
crystal beacon
they aimed for before 2020 release, they had 9 months delay because of some net backend system. Release in 1 month? 
tidal trout
so uh, here's a question: should it be a viable defense plan to send in fodder lvl 1s into AoE effects to give the other players more corruption in order to disable them more quickly?
crystal beacon
yeah from what i can see in news time could flies differently in USA xd
dense ridge
There should be a setting to set it so that you can't initiate against flagged players with aoe. Same goes for healing.
tidal trout
well imagine defending nodes that way
desert ivy
If you're in a Node Siege, you cannot earn corruption.
The PvP systems like Caravans, Castle Sieges, Node Sieges, automatically flag you as a combatant and you can't gain corruption.
tidal trout
Imagine you get word some enemy is coming to destroy your metropolis: what stops the defenders from sending lvl 1s into the mix and giving the attackers more corruption in order to make them ineffective?
oh
desert ivy
Ignored again 
dense ridge
Wouldn't the level 1s be counted as "defending the keep"?
tidal trout
no your right, i forgot about that
half apex
Siege weapons have no character lvl requirement as i know. So a low lvl player can also be part of siege by using them.
dense ridge
Don't know if there is a "minimum level required" to attend a siege, but we do know that there are efforts that lower level characters (crafters etc.) can do to participate and help with sieges. Bringing in buffs from the town square, manning siege weapons, etc.
tidal trout
could 2 PKers kill each other and loot each other as a means of losing corruption and and protect each others dropped gear?
crystal beacon
2 more years of feedback from wow/eso/ff14 players, this game is doomed 
tidal trout
well i dont mean at the same time. One would die, the other would loot them, then the one who died would come back and kill the other and do the same. Repeat till the corruption is gone.
desert ivy
Loot isn't guaranteed to drop. So sure, they could kill each other, but loot isn't guaranteed to drop and then they'd have lost 400% extra xp
Gatherables are guaranteed, but if they're killing each other just to help loot their gatherables then they're not too smart
tidal trout
Well i meant this as a means of ensuring no one would take their gear
desert ivy
Yes, they could do that, but they wouldn't be able to continuously do that because of the massive xp debt they'd incur
half apex
The main question basically if two corrupted friends could get rid of corruption asap without giving others benefits.
desert ivy
Yes, there's nothing stopping them killing each other
tidal trout
I think it'd be worth committing too if you have high end gear
half apex
Worth testing in alpha.
desert ivy
It'd also lead to fun situations ala Runescape where people trusted their friends with their gear only for their friends to yoink it
desert ivy
Steven does want Ashes to be riddled with drama after all
tidal trout
This is true
I think though that would also bring its own consequences
like getting ganked by a whole guild (assuming these two are in the same guild)
odd skiff
How long is Alpha one testing going to be?
tidal trout
not long enough
desert ivy
However long they need it to be
The Ashes alphas are planned to be quite long though, with the betas being shorter
onyx knoll
aka we don't have a number
desert ivy
Since the alphas are where they're adding most the content, betas will basically just be optimization and polishing the last few creases
Honestly, I expect both the betas to not even last half the time one of the alpha tests do (complete speculation)
odd skiff
Ya thats what I figured. Im still holding off buying the pre order pack till they decide to add more for alpha one testing or not
desert ivy
Imo alpha 2 is the most worth while pack to buy. The a2 servers will be up most the time unlike A1 which will only be up some of the time, and a lot of the content is added during A2
onyx knoll
Considering the packs only give you access to alpha 2 (or beta), you should have plenty of time to look things over and decide ๐
sturdy crater
U think the hybrid combat will b present on alpha 1?
austere crescent
I have a question: High lvl dungeons that open up are supposedly determined by geographic location of max tier cities. The question is if those high lvl dungeons share loot tables or not? If not, would it then not be in everyone's interest (including the citizens of those cities) to allow the max tier cities to occasionally be moved in order to open up new/different dungeons? Would this not negate (at least in part) the desire to defend those cities on occasion?
onyx knoll
@sturdy crater it is one of their testing goal for alpha 1, so it should be https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1
@austere crescent As far as I know they don't share loot table, it's a way to encourage the fluctuation of the nodes. So I guess yes, you could end up in a situation where you want your own node to get blown up ๐ค
@austere crescent Actually that's a bit wrong, you wouldn't want YOUR rank 6 one to get destroyed, you might just need SOMEONE ELSE'S to get blown up to make room for the dungeon you need in an other area lol
I think some dungeons can spawn in more then 1 place, but I'm not 100% on that
just the way Steven was talking about it that makes me think that, but it wasn't said explicitly
austere crescent
Almost sounds like a server effort to just all work together to min/max loot locations. that would be counter productive to a pvp environment at least to a point. I admit, that almost appeals to me haha as I am not the biggest pvp person.
onyx knoll
If you can get a server to all agree that would be impressive ๐คฃ everyone will have different goals and priorities, so while technically on paper it would be possible to have an optimal rotation...... I honestly don't see it happening lol
livid hedge
so i seen somewhere that if someone "burns" your freehold down that they can take some of your stuff... is this true and if it is, is there anyway to safely store items (like if your blacksmith or something and you wanna store iron or something)
onyx knoll
@livid hedge Yes, after a node is destroyed, players will have 2 hours to go around and break freeholds within this node's control. You can obviously try to defend it, and hire NPCs as guards, but if they succeed they take a portion of your materials and processed goods, not finished items.
austere crescent
some they can take, but some gets destroyed. Storage is apparently 'safe-ish' but not a guaranteed as far as materials go (such as crafting). Furniture and what have you will be saved as a template you can re install once you get a house back up later.
onyx knoll
@livid hedge And no, if a siege was declared on your node, you cannot remove any item from storage until the siege ends, so there is no safe storage. Unless you had insider info about the siege and pulled everything out before
livid hedge
so if i i have a sword i crafted that im proud of...its safe?
drowsy storm
tagging along this discussion, during the freehold 'raids' after a siege, is the property itself destroyed/damaged/affected, or only the applicable stored items?
tidal trout
best to simply not have much more material than you need
onyx knoll
(unless you're really high in corruption, then you can drop gear)
livid hedge
alright bet, i was gonna just give up on life if my finished gear could be stolen lol, thank you guys
austere crescent
Oh ya..crafting question as well: I heard it stated that you can only have 1 primary crafting specialty. Does that mean you can only specialize in say Fishing itself or you can specialize in gathering? (which would allow max skill in fishing as well as lumberjack and mining etc,.)
tidal trout
and cause pillaging and mayhem
onyx knoll
@drowsy storm If it's attacked directly then it's destroyed, if it was part of the town itself it's destroyed as well since the town will be gone. If it's a freehold and it isn't attacked but the node is destroyed then it'll stay for 7 days, if a nearby node manages to grow enough to grab it in it's zone of influence within that time then it'll stay and switch under the control of that node, otherwise it'll be destroyed. If your housing gets destroyed you get the floor plan and all furniture mailed to you (plus w-e was stored that didn't get nabbed)
desert ivy
@austere crescent There are 3 "branches" of artisian classes. Gathering, Processing, Crafting. You can master a number of professions within a single one of these branches
drowsy storm
aaaaaaahh gotcha, awesome, thank you 
desert ivy
but if you master 2 professions in gathering, you can't master any in processing or crafting for example
onyx knoll
@austere crescent You can Master 1 of the 3 main branch; gathering, processing OR crafting. Within that branch you'll be able to master multiple jobs. So you could master Fishing + mining for example
desert ivy
You can't master all of the professions in one branch however
austere crescent
ok
livid hedge
sooo, if i wanted to be a blacksmith, i can master mining, smelting, and weaponsmithing but not armor?
onyx knoll
no, you could master Blacksmith and armorsmith
desert ivy
Mining is gathering, weapon smithing is crafting
onyx knoll
You can only stay within one of the branch (gathering OR processing OR crafting)
desert ivy
You can still learn all of those professions, but not to the point of mastery
livid hedge
i feel really stupid for not understanding 
onyx knoll
xD
I need to make a picture that explains this I can just link anytime it comes up haha
livid hedge
so i can only master one tree? and that includes everything within that orrrr
desert ivy
You can't master absolutely everything in 1 tree
only a few of them, how many that is we dont know
onyx knoll
Not everything, you'll be able to master more then one, but we don't have an exact number yet
drowsy storm
You can still learn all of those professions, but not to the point of mastery
You can only stay within one of the branch (gathering OR processing OR crafting)
do these mean you can ONLY learn and/or become proficient with other professions in the same branch of your mastered profession; or that you can master in one branch, and learn (but not become proficient) professions in another?
edit: just realised this is probably a dumb question based on the second quote but too l8
onyx knoll
the 2nd one, you can learn other artisan jobs but you'll never be able to excel at them
desert ivy
Even if you master Fishing and Herbalism for example, you can still learn armour smithing and weapon smithing even though they're in separate trees. However, you won't be able to master weapon and armour smithing because you have already mastered professions in another tree.
@livid hedge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes
That might help clear it up
onyx knoll
So if you were a Master armorsmith, you could still go out and mine some low-tier ores to repair or craft regular gear, but you would need a Master gatherer/processor friend to get the legendary mats for you to craft legendary gear
(or make alts)
livid hedge
ohhh okay so if i wanted to i could master weaponsmithing and armor smithing but not mining (might have gone out the window lol)
desert ivy
Yes
onyx knoll
correct ^^
livid hedge
ohhh, now i don't feel as stupid XD
tidal trout
Can we have the option of partaking in gods of destruction? I would like that
desert ivy
There's 7 religions in the game with some of them being evil, so maybe
tawny horizon
Can a city built on a node be home to multiple guild or even none
Ooo thatโs cool so a city can be home to two guild that are on friendly terms or even be a neutral city for everyone
Thats gonna be cool to see how those kinda things pop up
crystal beacon
What stops a guild from filling a city with all of it's members?
desert ivy
Nothing
But I doubt they'd be able to fill a node compltely with members
But they'd be able to direct all their members to join a node
crystal beacon
True.... I forgot about the size of it all.
tidal trout
guilds at max are only 300 members
civic obsidian
and thats by investing all guild points to members
tawny horizon
Still possible for a guild to generally stay in a certain node area so they could use that city the most
desert ivy
Bit more than 0.03%, 300 members are about 3% of max concurrent population
tidal trout
i thought concurrent was 8-10,000
vernal swallow
Is the character leveling up, herculean and very lengthy? I prefer games which are challenging and lengthy to progress.
tidal trout
it should take the average player 45 days of lvling
civic obsidian
wiki said somewhere around 45-60 days is the target
vernal swallow
To max??
tidal trout
yes
crystal beacon
@tidal trout 300/10k is 3%
vernal swallow
Isn't that too less?
tidal trout
<...> math brain hurt cant do
solar breach
45 days to max-level feels pretty good to me
tidal trout
same
crystal beacon
it's 45 days if you only focus on leveling via killing mobs, quest, and dungeons
Plus with everything else to do in the game. You may get distracted and draw that number even higher.
vernal swallow
You mean 45x24 dedicated hours?
civic obsidian
4-6h
tidal trout
man eso only takes a few hours lol
solar breach
You may will definitely* get distracted ๐
crystal beacon
True!
crystal beacon
doesnt count professions, pvp, socializing
solar breach
WoW retail is insane with leveling right now. I can take a character from fresh to max in like 12 hours or less lol
Q: Does anyone have a link that mentions system reqs for the alpha? Seems like Mac isn't supported yet, but I'm building a PC and I'm really excited to try this out!
crystal beacon
solar breach
Thanks ๐
vernal swallow
of only focusing on leveling
@crystal beacon still it's it's too less I guess. If I dedicate just 2 hours a day everyday, then it'd take 3 months for me to max (4 months at worst). Hope the dev make it at least a 6 months worth of game time.
tidal trout
b r u h
solar breach
Or level two characters 
civic obsidian
@errant chasm last info on wiki says 45 at 4-6h a day
errant chasm
yea so like 12 irl days roughly
crystal beacon
well i guess if you play 12 days 24 hours, then it'll be almost the same as 45 days 6 hours
errant chasm
i game from work 16 hrs a day 4 days a week so thats pretty ez
tidal trout
the true gamer meta
warm valley
Has anyone heard Steven or anyone from the dev team answer these two question:
What will each server in the US's peak times be and what determines that peak time?
tidal trout
region presumably
indigo steeple
@warm valley i think US peak time is like 6 PM
warm valley
Is that like a cold hard fact somewhere that I can find?
crystal beacon
It's gonna suck for 2nd shift and 3rd shift workers, but yeah the prime time will definitely be in the pms.
warm valley
This is what I found about WoW specifically.
Which puts 9 PM at prime time
For WoW at least, 6 PM would not be considered even close to ideal
8 - 1 am should be the event hours if the same rings true for AoC
red glade
What is the sample size for that though
desert ivy
1am
red glade
Also the region, considering wow lumps Aussies in with NA
and lastly will the data change in 3 years when this is released ๐
marsh tulip
With a plague about what else can you do?
red glade
Play games that currently exist ๐
marsh tulip
Push you think the plague will be over when AoC comes out
red glade
It'll either be over or nobody will be able to afford it due to the global recession
tidal trout
or the great Boogaloo is upon us and AoC becomes IRL 