we have nothing but speculations, currently
#questions
stiff lotus
dark valve
yeah that's what I was guessing aswell, but maybe if there's smooth sailing they could get it in a year but that's just wishful thinking I guess Sadge
warm glen
Will alpha one access be ever pruchaseable again?
wild marsh
@warm glen If they need more people they will open it back up, but that's not very likely.
warm glen
Is there a info about how many people have access to A1?
warm glen
Thanks
sacred bloom
Steven said depending on the type of node there will be different ways to elect a mayor e.g military will be a combat fight to determine the mayor. Will there be a system to stop people that say, are super good at combat but aren't good at being a mayor yet still run for it from being mayor
shadow tartan
well people would just leave that node, leaving him the mayor of fuck all
fleet rock
do different races have different ship styles?
stuck girder
Will every player be able to own a freehold or is there not enough space?
hardy crystal
Are addons supported in AoC?
hardy crystal
Client side addons only?
hardy crystal
Wellyeah no client side
stuck girder
If i add a dps meter, will i get banned?
hardy crystal
For exampke there is an addon in gw2 thats outside of the client
boreal abyss
if they find out, yes @stuck girder
hardy crystal
How about macros?
boreal abyss
will not be in game
hardy crystal
How about windows or keyboard macros?
boreal abyss
unsure how severe that is, but thatis technically "scripting"
stuck girder
Windows mouse keys or 1:1 macros?
umbral creek
Bought a pack today that gives me access to alpha 2. Any idea how I’ll be notified and when alpha 2 is? Ty super excited with how the game is shaping
wild marsh
Email more than likely, on top of an announcements most likely on their website, discord, and most social media.
versed hollow
@umbral creek Alpha 1 hasn't started yet, so Alpha 2 will be some time next year. You will recieve an email when you do
umbral creek
Yeah nice thankyou 🙂
white sequoia
as the game is using ue4 is there any chance it will support DLSS 2.0./3.0 ? / RTX etc ?
versed hollow
@white sequoia only if they implement it, but not likely right now
earnest knoll
Im pretty sure they have mentioned somewhere that there will be ray tracing but take that with a grain of salt as i cant find the reference 🙂
sacred bloom
Keep in mind though both the game and technology will change drastically be the time its released who knows maybe in 2023 ray tracing will be unsupported by all games or vice versa
errant quiver
Did they say anything more about summoners, mass-summoning HUGE Siege creatures, Raid creatures? Mages, mass-casting Meteor shower? [Yes Please!] @still wyvern @idle siren
stuck girder
Will Cleric+Summoner have more powerful heal summons than Summoner+Summoner?
errant quiver
@stuck girder i haven't heard anything, but it would probably be the other way around.
stuck girder
Summoner is better support than Cleric 
merry acorn
@stuck girder Would assume that the secondary with summoner will add that kind of change to it
errant quiver
@stuck girder from what I understand, the sub-job choice augments the main abilities. So Summoner/Cleric would be Healing heavy versus SMN/SMN
main merlin
The cosmetics from apoc testing, will they return later or gone forever?
frozen tartan
Won't summoner/cleric be called necromancer?
merry acorn
Yea but Removing the names its still augmenting the Primary
stuck girder
i don't know if i want high priest or shaman 
errant quiver
@frozen tartan you get to choose light or dark also within the augment
merry acorn
Annie u can just make multi accounts and play them both to fuck around
not going to do no harm
besides time
stuck girder
Can i have multiple characters on the same account?
errant quiver
@stuck girder yes
merry acorn
ye
stuck girder
fading latch
@main merlin Apoc may return after Alpha 1. But at the moment thats not confirmed. So for now, they are locked away
rough pebble
aoc will be free to play?
crystal flax
No, a $15 monthly sub
fair yew
Apoc will return. Castle siege testing will be conducted in apoc after alpha 1 launch
Also horde mode
bleak tulip
Yes
polar hollow
sweet
dapper cove
Yes, with boats and sea travel
polar hollow
can see a pirate nation
humble mountain
Will the Race affect the something else than cosmetic and base stats? For example will mountain dwarfs have more chance of finding a gem or better jewelery crafts? Or wood elves have chance of better wood refining?
reef osprey
@humble mountain there will be racial traits yes
humble mountain
- other than combat?
onyx knoll
@humble mountain we don't know what the racial traits will be, they might affect only combat or they might give bonuses to life skills, hard to say at this point
faint needle
With a dwarf you can pick up herbs quicker because they are closer to the ground
onyx knoll
hah
humble mountain
Alrighty, thank you 🙂
spring dagger
would be cool if the fishing race could make better boats or a specific part thats different
faint needle
I wonder how will the arabian architecture influenced Vaelune buildings look like in a snowy, mountain node 😄
lofty fjord
will the "Orc-race" lokk like green humans or more like the Orcs from Warhammer?
onyx knoll
@lofty fjord We don't have a finalised 3D render for orcs yet but this is the concept art we've seen so far:
faint needle
like all the race, basic humanoid skeleton model just tall and different faces
misty condor
orcs in warcraft have diffrent bone structure
lofty fjord
thanks. looks great. i like the one in the lower right 😄
misty condor
bodybuilders Kappa
faint needle
one of the few thing i dont like about this game is the basic humanoid skeleton model for all the races just with different heads and body height. I have some hopes about the unshown 9. race, maybe we will see some curved spine, tails, fur or scale
desert ivy
onyx knoll
I feel like this game has so much content to work on that the look of the races is probably not their focus. I rather they have humanoid races that don't deviate too much from each other and that are easy to adapt gear models for then that they try to make super unique models that require a ton of time to alter gear. But anyway, a discussion for an other channel
faint needle
But anyway, a discussion for an other channel
@onyx knoll
yep, i know, sorry, just the topic came out here
ripe axle
help the necromacer be the class he deserves, I beg you
proven crystal
Are the only 2 ways to reserve name Kickstarter and Voyager + pre order?
desert ivy
Yep
fading latch
Everyone is able to name reserve. But Kickstarter get priority followed by Summer, Intrepid, Voyager+ etc all the way down to registered. @proven crystal
rain flower
Do we know how the auction house will work? If it's gonna be like Runescape (more automatic) or like WoW (more manual)?
oak barn
When is the new sale droping?
junior ore
Isn’t BoW in that as well
fair yew
New cosmetics in about 4 hours
oak barn
aight
fair yew
Not a lot of info on the ah at this time
junior ore
@rain flower there is no global auction house
oak barn
god damnit
fair yew
Auctions houses are only for the economic node and vassals
rain flower
ok thank you
fair yew
They are actively working on the eu stuff but haven’t hear of any timelines
jovial olive
Is there a system in place to reallocate my skill points i spent ?
If for example when u regret putting a skill point in an ability or missclick?
cedar thicket
Tulnar - furries. God, no
junior ore
@jovial olive yes it will probably quest or money sync tied but yes
You can also with some effort swap secondary
Proxy chat is cancerous and when majority mute anyways due to toxic/stream tos issues is it really worth the effort when everyone uses discord anyways
He has to flag back but yes
steady ocean
Correct @gloomy mantle if he fights back no corruption
Less experience debt if you die as a combatant
junior ore
Most people mute in game voices
It’s not worth the effort for them to implement and figure out the tos issues
fading latch
Proximity chat is not a planned feature
junior ore
It’s not the cursing
fading latch
They arent adding a 4th feature
junior ore
Why would a company waste time money effort on something a majority will just turn off instantly and gain minimal use out of
steady ocean
You can discuss VOIP more in #aoc-discussion if you want. This channel is for question/answers
junior ore
@junior ore just because you are doesn't mean the majority will
@gloomy mantle the majority do just cuz you want it doesn’t mean they have too.
fading latch
@gloomy mantle im just passing on the info. Dont shoot the messenger
steady ocean
@gloomy mantle It's turned into a discussion that is going nowhere. Please continue it in #aoc-discussion
junior ore
Steven said no there’s my source
potent thunderBOT
junior ore
@fading latch You aren't even reading what I am saying LOL. If you were you would realise that was irrelevant.
@gloomy mantle it’s 100% answering your question
steady ocean
What we know is on the wiki which can be found here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/In_game_chat.
@junior ore Please just stop responding
dark jungle
This channel is for #questions. If you have a suggestion, post it in a discussion channel or on the forums
junior ore
Blind
dense shore
The things I'd do to get a mod in here and throw him out 😕
boreal abyss
starts noting down things to report
trim moon
<@&256789677930053632> please
dense shore
I have an idea
desert ivy
junior ore
dense shore
Ginja, Morgue, there is a discussion about this in #aoc-discussion right now! go go go
boreal abyss
@gloomy mantle
it was in response to this question
so no, prox chat is confirmed no
dark jungle
if i REEEEEEE hard enough in #questions will steven implement full loot pvp as well?
junior ore
I said the current 3 VOIP chat systems, Raids, Parties, and groups should remain exactly how they are. Then add a 4th one for proximity chat.
@gloomy mantle this was your comment
No proxy voice
Go back to school and learn what no is
tulip hatch
Please use this channel for questions and answers only.
thank you
trim moon
Damn, do people get childish when being challenged
muted kiln
Will the ashesofcreation website eventually have a feature to remember my browser for 30+ days instead of asking for my 2FA every single time I login?
steady ocean
Back to questions please. His was answered.
spiral zealot
Does anyone know how the cosmetic packs in the shop work? (The ones including alpha/beta access) I just realized they changed today with the announcement. I thought those were static. Are these items completely limited to those windows, or will those items be offered later in the shop? Anyone know?
steady ocean
@muted kiln That would probably be a good suggestion. You can post a suggestion thread on the official forum if you would like: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
dense shore
What's passed, is gone.
steady ocean
@spiral zealot The cosmetics in the pack change monthly and will not be sold again. There may be a chance of getting a similar reskin, but not the exact same cosmetic, in the future
trim moon
Q: Does the vassal nodes get any benefits based on the development of the parent node?
ex: all nodes within a Metropolis ZOI have a chance to spawn higher level resources.
I know that there is the fast travel from the Scientific Metropolis, but still
boreal abyss
Nodes will have same chance at any times (no matter stage) to spawn resources afaik
as resoruces are not limited to "zone levels" in any way
broken holly
After purchasing a pack. Can you buy only cosmetic items in future months or would you need to buy the entire package?
steady ocean
Just cosmetics
boreal abyss
@trim moon however, economic nodes will get a shared AH where with all nodes in the ZOI of an economic node
(where you can buy resoruces in another node and then later go get it, and crafted goods (gear potions etc) will be shipped to you right away)
steady ocean
@trim moon As a node reaches higher stages, it spawns higher level mobs. So in that way, the parent node can ensure those are spawning in the area for the lower tier nodes that are in its ZoI
dense shore
Q: Do you need two subscriptions/accounts to play both EU and NA servers if you want to?
boreal abyss
Yes
junior ore
Yes
trim moon
@steady ocean Thanks, that's was exactly what i was trying to ask 🙂
Does that include dungeon/raids too?
boreal abyss
Yes
muted kiln
@steady ocean Thanks, will do.
trim moon
So there is an incentive for nearby node to form alliances, nice
junior ore
@trim moon to an extent. Raids will kinda fall in the area between nodes so more then one node leveling can unlock that raid or dungeon
Or i should say any of the nodes leveling can unlock it
Or advance it””
steady ocean
Different types of nodes can unlock different dungeons/raids, so it depends on the parent node as it is the one that is unlocking raids/dungeons
glossy flicker
how many characters per account I can me in game?
junior ore
We don’t know exact algorithm but Steven said that one node can unlock it while the other node hasn’t hit that margin to do so.
boreal abyss
@glossy flicker 1 at a time
but how many you can have on 1 server is unknown, but more than "a few" prob 
knotty pike
Q: is there difference in day and night cycle like monster spawns etc?
boreal abyss
Yes
junior ore
Steven has only said a "comfortable" amount, so we can assume at least 8 characters so you have the chance to make 1 of each archetype @glossy flicker
@steady ocean we all kinda assume it will be less than 8 but more then2/3 enough to have trinity system but not hot swap for meta
glossy flicker
that just does not answer my quesiton. so ican make more chars on not or do I play only with one char?
junior ore
You will have more than 1 character slot
glossy flicker
@boreal abyss
boreal abyss
1 at a time
junior ore
How many we don’t know
junior ore
Idk any game that has done this^
glossy flicker
@boreal abyss I dont think you understand what I'm even asking and you are confusing me.
boreal abyss
define your question better
steady ocean
@glossy flicker Try rephrasing your question.
junior ore
how many characters per account I can me in game?
@glossy flicker more than 1 less than 8 probably 5 but no exact details!?
fair yew
They have said you will be able to have plenty of characters
boreal abyss
"a comfortable amount" 
dark jungle
we dont know how many alts you can have, it will be more than 0. you cannot play on more than one character at a time on one account
glossy flicker
so I'm asking per accaunt how many character I can make one guy says 8 or 2/3 then other says one char per accaunt beasicly I cant have more characters I have to buy new account.
dark jungle
everyone is saying the same thing
steady ocean
You will be able to have multple, we don't know the exact number @glossy flicker
boreal abyss
Characters per account: "A comfortable amount" <-- direct quote from CEO
Specific number is unknown
junior ore
You can’t play more than 1 at a time, i said comfortable is more than 2/3 but less than 8 to avoid meta hot swapping we don’t have exact info
glossy flicker
@boreal abyss please dont say 1 then thx you confused me.
junior ore
^
glossy flicker
1 at a time
@boreal abyss
desert ivy
steady ocean
Can we move on please
unreal zealot
so if we make an alt of a different server to our main character how will that work for freeholds and citizenship? because characters have the same citizenship right?
junior ore
that just does not answer my quesiton. so ican make more chars on not or do I play only with one char?
@glossy flicker 1 at a time was responding to the end of this by you
steady ocean
@unreal zealot It doesn't carry over that stuff to a new server
junior ore
You play one character at a time
unreal zealot
so you can have a freehold on a different server as well?
boreal abyss
No
junior ore
@unreal zealot 1 freehold per account
boreal abyss
1 Freehold per account, not per server
junior ore
Not server bound.... account bound
umbral creek
Is apocalypse seperate to the main game or will it be a feature in the main game?
boreal abyss
side-feature
junior ore
Yes and sort of
unreal zealot
👌
desert ivy
Separate, but the features such as castle siege and horde mode will be present in the main game
fair yew
Apoc is it’s own game
junior ore
Separate/ but some instances will be reflective of in game mechanics. Like sieges and monster events if that happens
boreal abyss
but the content OF Apocalypse (Siege and Horde mode) are content from the MMO
Castle/Node Siege and "PvE Siege (Monster Siege event)"
grand mirage
Soo, I haven't heard of any talk about raids. Does anyone know anything about that?
fair yew
It will be in the game up to 40 people
umbral creek
Will rewards you earn from these side features be useable in the main game?
boreal abyss
very little, you can find most info on the wiki raid page
@umbral creek yes, as they are all cosmetics
desert ivy
@umbral creek The cosmetics you earn in them will be transferable to the MMO
grand mirage
will there be leaderboards?
fair yew
Cosmetics and embers earned will transfer to main game
umbral creek
Ooft...lovely! Ty guys ❤️
trim moon
Q: Are the seasons regional, or does the entire world experience the cycle evenly? I imagine that the seasons affect the resources (gatherable and farmable), so i imagine that localized seasons would play an important factor in the world economy
junior ore
Yes
fair yew
Whole world
junior ore
They are only gonna rotate in certain areas
boreal abyss
but it does cycle with the entire world, just exception cases
trim moon
So probably the regions that experience seasons wouldn't have the same season at the same time
junior ore
They haven’t divulged specifics but Steven specifically noted it was locked to certain regions and not global
trim moon
Or am i peppega?
fair yew
Right the whole world will cycle but not all areas will change
boreal abyss
a desert will not experience winter snow for instance
unless a frost dragon blizzard event happens (for example)
grand mirage
Also, will there be a DPS meter?
fair yew
No
grand mirage
why not ? o.o
steady ocean
The devs don't want one
junior ore
No DPS meter
grand mirage
II dont remember did Tera have one ?
trim moon
Leads to toxic competitiveness, instead of group play
junior ore
And don’t ask anything more
trim moon
Dangerous topic my friend
boreal abyss
@grand mirage to quote CEO on why NO:
DPS meters have a tendency to grow "elitism", leading to toxicity and general discrimination for the wrong reasons
also they will not allow 3rd party programs (addons etc) (NO HANDHOLDING)
grand mirage
I see
fair yew
It’s the same reason you won’t be able to inspect anyone’s gear
reef osprey
@grand mirage no worries, its a legit question
trim moon
@grand mirage I though u were trolling
boreal abyss
no worries, it's just that that specific question, gets brought up a lot (also by trolls alot)
grand mirage
oh I didnt know it was a troll topic
boreal abyss
you'll experience it in here over time xD
But let's keep this channel to Q&A now 
(discussion places: #aoc-discussion #general-discussion )
trim moon
@grand mirage Tips on topics you SHOUDLD NOT discuss in the discord: multiboxing, dps meter and addons
grand mirage
I kind of hate addons tbh
quick dock
What about Item lvl 
reef osprey
@grand mirage its technically not troll, but if trolls want to steer up shit they usually start a discussion about these topics
@quick dock Titanforging
fair yew
There will be item levels but not viewable by other players
grand mirage
I don't normally play PvP games but I'm kind of looking foreward to the things he was talking about on the streams.
boreal abyss
no
grand mirage
I feel like there's no incentive in other games but I think this game should have a lot of incentive.
crystal beacon
😡
reef osprey
@crystal beacon not yet unfortunately
@grand mirage it will have, its designed around that
midnight iron
There are multiple religions. Do we know if there will be any incentive to attack member of a religion A, as a member of a religion B?
midnight iron
Will we know if a player X is a member of a specific religion?
boreal abyss
Unknown
steady ocean
We know that the religions will be fighting over temple spots in the divine nodes, so there will be cause for holy wars to control those @midnight iron
grizzled latch
leaders of religions will get a title i think
midnight iron
Oh my god
grizzled latch
but they may not have to use that title
rich elk
If some of the combat is action and like skill shot based how will hit boxes work with players of different races and sizes. Will playing a smaller race have a gameplay advantage?
grand mirage
So I hear him talk about being able to own like a restaurant or bar where I can supply people with buffs. Does anyone know if I have to own the bar, like pay for it like housing and are there taxes on it ?
steady ocean
It could yes, as it may be harder to hit them
@grand mirage It would be on your freehold which you have to purchase
trim moon
@grand mirage The bar is on your freehold, so it comes with all the prices of owning that
boreal abyss
@grand mirage It's most likely what is reffered to as a "Freehold"
A plot of land where you can build a Tavern (which is what you are thinking of)
trim moon
Taxes are set on the node, probably taking a percentage of what u gain
And the tax rate is set by the mayor
boreal abyss
And yes, there is a tax on owning a Freehold, as well as the cost of purchasing a Freehold Certificate (first time)
grand mirage
Freeholds are like houses you own out in the world right ? Can that be attacked?
junior ore
@rich elk action doesn’t just mean fps or bdo hyper speed frames. Swing with looking directions is actions. As is locational AoE technically
steady ocean
They can be attacked if your node is destroyed @grand mirage
boreal abyss
Can only be attacked, if the node it is taxated by, is successfully sieged
fair yew
They can be attacked during node sieges and up to 2 hours after a successful siege
trim moon
@grand mirage Yes and yes. But as @steady ocean said it
boreal abyss
You can also defend your freehold during that time
steady ocean
The sieging enemy gets 2 hours to try and destroy all the freeholds after a successful siege
trim moon
Vikings pillaging the land
boreal abyss
You will also lose some of all resources stored at your freehold, (not crafted goods such as gear and potions) if your freehold is destroyed
junior ore
@rich elk they haven’t confirmed anything on aiming because of hit boxes thats why were testing but they have acknowledged that they will indeed balance given these factors or at least try to find the best middle ground
grand mirage
lol we'll be like pilgrims after we lose it wandering out into new nodes
trim moon
@grand mirage Yes! Better defend your node tho
junior ore
Unless it’s a server march around the world
rich elk
@junior ore Cool, good to know
trim moon
@junior ore Can u explain more?
junior ore
The server March?
junior ore
No defenders unified server drops and advances nodes in a linear progression
It could happen... will it? ... probably not but 🤷🏼♂️
grand mirage
So, what's the incentive for living in different nodes. For example why dont all the populations just live under 1 node? Other than roleplay implications. Are we allowed to do quests on different nodes? I'm basically just wondering if a very dominant guild will just rule all zones.
Sorry for the question spams btw, I'm genuinely curious.
trim moon
Nodes have citizenship limitation, i believe
steady ocean
@grand mirage You can read more on node types here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_types
boreal abyss
And different nodes have different benefits, should read that ^
grizzled latch
Various resources are locked to only spawn in certain nodes
junior ore
@grand mirage nodes have a citizen cap
grand mirage
I'll look into it @steady ocean
boreal abyss
where did you hear that @grizzled latch
grizzled latch
Some are controlled via diffrent methods ex, questing, democratic, pvp ect
steady ocean
@boreal abyss Devs have said it countless times
trim moon
Also, players will have to gather resources from different places. If everyone is in a single area, and you go to a far out place, u'll probably be a rich mf @grand mirage
junior ore
^^
grizzled latch
The ama had it in there
junior ore
But those resources require that node to be of a certain level to unlock
So it’s a give and take
boreal abyss
that resources will be locked to nodes?
Never heard it, have heard resources will be locked to spawning in "logical places" aka easier to find for instance wood in forest
grizzled latch
Iron will be in one area, mithril in another
digital raft
the NDA link intrepid sent me was expired. anyone experience the same?
boreal abyss
You must have misunderstood something there @grizzled latch
Cause that is complete opposite of how they've been saying it since the start
trim moon
@digital raft Bro, u weren't supposed to disclose that 
grizzled latch
You misunderstand me
junior ore
@boreal abyss one of the latest streams he stated some resources will regional locked like finding sandstone in the desert and not a snowy biome
digital raft
@trim moon really?
boreal abyss
yeah that make sense, and that's how it's been said since the start, but they said "locked to nodes" which is what I reacted to
fair yew
That’s regional locked not node type locked
trim moon
@digital raft just
grizzled latch
I meant locked to nodes like some nodes won't have a particular resource
junior ore
Technically it nodes are in a certain region so it may be locked to a few nodes but it’s not exactly wrong nodes are region locked
fair yew
So you won’t only find a specific type of resource in a military node etc
boreal abyss
Might wanna change how you explain that part as saying "locked to node" can easily be misunderstood
fair yew
There is a difference in node and region
trim moon
Regarding the location lock on resources, is the sea homogenous or not?
So there would be regions in the sea with specific resources
fair yew
The sea is large and will have resources
trim moon
But will the resources available be determined by the region of the sea, or more based on distance from land, depth etc?
junior ore
If certain mats are region locked and nodes exist in a specific location and region and never change the mats tied to that region are locked to said nodes as they level as well .... so mats can and will be locked to nodes
steady ocean
I doubt anyone here knows. People are just speculating. May be a better topic for #aoc-discussion
fair yew
Unknown how they will divide the resources likely it will be it’s the sea so you get sea resources
junior ore
The sea has some variants but iirc Steven said it will be tied to the closest node that provides zoi over the sea. So while sea mats are regional to the sea the nodes zoi nearby unlocks them
fair yew
@junior ore it’s getting a bit argumentative. The thing everyone is getting at is if I have a military node in the snow lands and in the desert they won’t have the same resources so it’s not good to say node locked
junior ore
@fair yew but that military node always exist in its same location the materials there are specific to that region and that particular node. You will not find sandstone in your snowy economic node that will never change it’s base location
steady ocean
Perhaps you all could move the discussion to #aoc-discussion
trim moon
@steady ocean You're right, but i'm sorry, the #aoc-discussion only discusses frognars and bulge-sliders
steady ocean
I'm sure they would appreciate the change in topic! 🙂
junior ore
All 103 nodes at start have a type(eco,mil,sci,rel) this is static and the nodes location is static. So by default the regional mats are static to certain nodes
The zoi and progression can alter but the type of node it is is static
boreal abyss
except that they can respawn in the zone for another node
as resoruces do not respawn in the same location they were picked
grizzled latch
The original question asked why everyone does not live in the same node, in that frame of reference calling resources node locked is fine. There are resources that are inaccessible to a node ie locked out. Does not matter what region they are in, they won't have access to everything. His question was answered.
acoustic elk
Does a node automatically become a vassal to another node or is there some sort of acceptance by the vassaled node?
steady ocean
It becomes a vassal node once another node in its vicinity progresses to a higher stage (has to be stage 3 or higher). You can read more here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Vassal_nodes
cedar thicket
So, you have to pay money (highest bidder) to be a mayor of an economic node?
junior ore
You decide it’s layout buildings tax rate
cedar thicket
to "buy" the role?
junior ore
Yes but given trading, a guild can combine together ...
cedar thicket
Ok, great. So you pay to change the tax rate, which you use on expanding the node, and you get nothing in return
desert ivy
If it's a metro you get a flying mount 
steady ocean
Some people want the title or responsibility or power. Different things motiviate different people @cedar thicket
junior ore
You can build more defenses to keep the node defense better and the node Alive longer to keep hitting the raid with your guild?
grizzled latch
Your return is running the city making the design choices you want
There are various buildings you can build to improve the city
junior ore
That also play to your play style^
cedar thicket
I know, i'm interested in expending a city as well, but then someone richer can come in, take your seat and change things
junior ore
That’s life
desert ivy
Just liek real life 
cedar thicket
Considering you just spend an x amount of time, that would feel like shit
grizzled latch
They won't be able to destroy all your work, they will just make other improvements elsewhere
steady ocean
That you used to bid? Yes
junior ore
Considering you just spend an x amount of time, that would feel like shit
@cedar thicket risk vs reward. You take the risk paying the money and hope you get more in dungeon loot back for your guild or whoever
cedar thicket
Or are you just showing it off?
junior ore
Both
grizzled latch
You actually bid for the position and pay if you win
If you lose then you have a tidy sum to invest for the next running
cedar thicket
I'm not talking about dung, im fine with them coz it creates pvp content. I'm talking about being a mayor
steady ocean
You can read more on economic nodes here. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Economic_nodes
junior ore
Keep in mind a sieged node and it’s citizens lose part of there storage inventory, the game is designed to slow whales and keep the economy in a life circle. So if you can lose money and gain vs just losing some mats for nothing in return why not?
cedar thicket
As a major you get nothing (expect the mount if you are a mayor of a metropolis and the ability to change a few things)
steady ocean
@cedar thicket Perhaps you could ask in #aoc-discussion What would motivate others to become mayor. They may have some interesting perspecitves
cedar thicket
The aspect of being a mayor is enough for majority.
junior ore
As a major you get nothing (expect the mount if you are a mayor of a metropolis and the ability to change a few things)
@cedar thicket those few thing you change can play right into your money making ways. So it could absolutely be worth a guild paying up to net a better return
cedar thicket
Anyhow, we will see how it works once the game is more developed stage.
Oh, so you mean agreements between guilds and mayors
dreamy temple
alpha 1 is september-december. hopefully we see the core mechanics of the game in detail
cedar thicket
Ok, that makes sense
dreamy temple
nodes, combat, caravans
acoustic elk
Can sieges only be declared in war?
junior pagoda
junior ore
4 weekly seasons. Tied to certain regions but they will come with buffs/debuffs to a number of mechanics
@acoustic elk ?? Explain the question
grizzled latch
@acoustic elk What are you asking?
steady ocean
@acoustic elk siege and war are different things. Wars can last a long time, and is just a diplomatic stance between two nodes and their allies that flags them as combatants to each other. A node siege is a time specific event where 1 node tries to destroy another node
acoustic elk
Ok so can a vassal declare a siege on a parent node?
acoustic elk
Gotcha
boreal abyss
nodes can declare war, which is different
dont think a vassal can declare war on parent tho
steady ocean
@acoustic elk No, vassal nodes cannot declare war on the parent node. There is no civil war. They would need to wait for another group to declare a siege to get a chance to become the parent node.
junior ore
^^
unreal zealot
Politically there could be civil wars by "supporting" another node outside your parents zoi with materials and cash for the siege scroll
acoustic elk
They wouldn’t be declaring war they would fund the siege.
I am just trying to understand how a vassal can get out from under the parent so they can be the parent, it seems that that way to do it is to get a siege declared on their parent. The vassal system through me for a loop because nodes that have a direct benefit in the destruction of a node cannot themselves cause it’s destruction.
steady ocean
That's correct
ruby swift
Sort of like killing Granpa to get your inheritance. Gotta pay someone.
grizzled latch
Also you can't withhold taxes from the parent node to let it decay either
It will get its cut
reef osprey
@acoustic elk you shadow finance the siege upon your parent node
acoustic elk
I don’t even think it has to be a shadow thing the parent can’t declare war on you.
reef osprey
they can finance a siege on you
which costs them a lot less than the other way around
crystal beacon
We have seen one dungeon thus far. Will the quantity of the mobs increase to what we have seen thus far?
forest pike
If we die in a siege does death penalties apply?
steady ocean
I believe so, yes. There will just not be corruption mechanics in play. Death will always have consequences, so no Leeroy'ing into the enemy
crystal beacon
Leeeroy jenkins
visual cosmos
How far in advance do they release the art of the next months voyager pack?
steady ocean
A few days before they start showing teasers usually.
visual cosmos
@steady ocean thanks, I'm waiting for one that really resonates with me and the aesthetic I'm going for
gritty osprey
So Steven mentioned that they are confident that they can have 250vs250 battles and they are working on 500vs500 atm. What happens when these limits are met? For example if a battle is happening and there are already 250vs250, what happens to your character when you walk into range of that battle?
tall beacon
Has it been discussed about caravans cross continent? For example what if im on a small island to the east
Caravan ships?
steady ocean
Only registered attackers/defenders can be on the siege battlefield @gritty osprey
@tall beacon Yes, you can transition your land caravan into a ship caravan at a port I believe
gritty osprey
Only registered attackers/defenders can be on the siege battlefield @gritty osprey
@steady ocean Is this also the case for nodes?
steady ocean
@gritty osprey Yes
gritty osprey
ahh I see, thanks!
stuck girder
is it possible to have 50/50 tab/action, or am i forced to go 75/25?
midnight iron
It is possible
snow storm
Level 3 node noi's wont be large enough to lock a level 2 node right? Any idea how many level 3 nodes a level 4 will lock out? 4 or 5?
Zoi's I mean
steady ocean
@snow storm This is a conceptual illustration of what the Zones of influence may look like, but it will depend on the number of nodes surrounding the higher tier nodes. This may not apply to each case. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Zone_of_influence
snow storm
I was under the impression it's more like a grid like the other picture and zoi's will move a certain number of grid areas on expansion
storm urchin
So, hypothetically, it's possible for a node to be in the ZOI of two metropolises?
mystic notch
I
open spindle
So, hypothetically, it's possible for a node to be in the ZOI of two metropolises?
@storm urchin
No, you can only have 1 parent, taxes flow 1 way and don't split
storm urchin
Okay. So ZOI are set and not based around the node? Because if you switch the 3 on the left with the five next to it, there would be nothing stopping that 5 from leveling up to six. But if ZOI are predetermined and nodes just take ownership of them, then that would make sense. A node would not necessarily be in the center of its ZOI.
whole dawn
i have a question on node aesthetics. it was said that building take the appearance of the most dominant race, what happens if a building gets constructed whilst elves are in charge, but then orcs take control. will the elven building stay the same or change into an orc building
crystal beacon
The player limit, i guess you can only see the people in that limit
fading latch
But if elves built 90% and then left. It will still be elf
gloomy mantle
What is player limit per server?
crystal beacon
In my example u would see 500 players that are closest to you
If i understood it correctly
gloomy mantle
10k active per server at the same time? 🤔
upbeat jolt
What about during evenings when everyone and their family and relatives will be online
gloomy mantle
And we all can travel anywhere in the server so if we all meet up it would crash?
fading latch
I have no idea
fading latch
I dont know their architecture and their design. No one does
upbeat jolt
on a 50K ppl server I don't expect more than 2K to be during work hours but I expect 1-2 hours at evening where like 40K+ will be online
gloomy mantle
If 1 server can hold 50k players then I'm confused how they are more advanced than any other game on market
upbeat jolt
@gloomy mantle read carefully what Shadow said. 8-10K at once. 50K registered.
gloomy mantle
Most limits is like max of 500 is highest I have ever seen.
mystic glen
I was wondering if there will be possible esports tournaments in the future
steady ocean
Perhaps you could ask in #aoc-discussion to get other's perspective, as that isn't a question we can really answer here. @gloomy mantle
gloomy mantle
I may be confused.
upbeat jolt
@gloomy mantle come on dude... even wow classic had a few k players at launch. If wow classic from 2002 can do it why can't Ashes from 2024 do it
steady ocean
@mystic glen The devs have said they have no plans currently for officially hosted esports, but the players could always throw something together
gaunt brook
@upbeat jolt that 2024 hurt
fading latch
@mystic glen the only comment on esports is this
mystic glen
Yeah man you know i though it would be cool to have something like that in the future
thanks
gloomy mantle
I doubt this is possible. But will we be able to have private servers? Like community servers with our own paid hosting service? 🤔
upbeat jolt
Yeah man you know i though it would be cool to have something like that in the future
@mystic glen Groups and churches will be made and some have already been made with regards to such things. You just have to find your own
mystic glen
nice nice
fading latch
Please keep this channel to questions. Thankyou
gloomy mantle
Should i buy tesla?
@azure knot Please keep this channel for questions about AoC. Thanks!
potent thunderBOT
south lotus
which time will be alpha or beta guys ?
gloomy mantle
How long till they add a fourth chat option for public proximity chat? Don't worry, this will not affect the 3 VOIP chats in-game already that are NOT proximity based. Also, it can be muted if you are scared of some rando playing their sound board through their mic.
onyx knoll
@south lotus alpha 1 sometime this fall, we don't have any dates for anything else
steady ocean
@gloomy mantle We only know that Steven said there will not be proximity based voice in the open world. You can ask on the official forums or Reddit and see if the devs will give you a different answer, or if you want to make a suggestion.
woven crystal
will different races be good at different crafts? or is it just the same for all of them
onyx knoll
@woven crystal we know there will be different racial bonuses but we don't know yet what those will be so at the moment it's impossible to say, sorry
dreamy temple
they will be the same in crafts, most likely
onyx knoll
We don't know for sure tho.
dreamy temple
true, but id doubt it
gloomy mantle
Why would a massively multiplayer online game decide to not have a group finding system and no in-game voice chat for players who are just trying to meet people to get involved with? 🤔
Seems like we are meant to play solo 🤷♂️
pale kestrel
Will all classes have a CC break an imminently once the break is used? Just based on the last gameplay video there's going to be alot of CC.
steady ocean
Perhaps you could ask in #aoc-discussion as that is not something that has a simple answer @gloomy mantle
gloomy mantle
Perhaps you could ask in #aoc-discussion as that is not something that has a simple answer @gloomy mantle
@steady ocean No thanks. I'm using the #questions chat since it is a question. Thanks for your suggestion though.
steady ocean
@pale kestrel It will depend on how you decide to augment your primary skills most likely as well as your primary archetype
fading latch
@pale kestrel There will be no hard stun locks and CC will have diminishing returns
steady ocean
@gloomy mantle It's an open ended question that has no answer, which leads to a discussion which is better for #aoc-discussion Please stop trolling
tulip hatch
Tavern is correct here. This is not the place for that type of question as it leads to more of a discussion since there is no answer for that.
@gloomy mantle Please take that to the appropriate channels.
Thank you
fading latch
@gloomy mantle You have been told previously on the matter of proximity VOIP. Including quotes from Steven.
The stance is no and it will not be in the game other then in taverns.
gloomy mantle
@gloomy mantle It's an open ended question that has no answer, which leads to a discussion which is better for #aoc-discussion Please stop trolling
@steady ocean Sir this is not a question and I'm not trying to debate with you in #questions please stop trying to fight with other members. This channel is for questions, please use it for that purpose only.
pale kestrel
@fading latch what is concidered a hard stun lock?
tulip hatch
Morgue please adhere to moderation requests, if you persist I will time you out.
fading latch
@pale kestrel Being stunlocked for several minutes not being able to do anything
onyx knoll
@pale kestrel Anything that stops both movement and skill use, so a stun or something like that
crisp umbra
can you grow weed in AOC
fading latch
No
crisp umbra
sad times
onyx knoll
@crisp umbra You can grow plants, I doubt there will be one called "weed" but maybe some sort of plant used in potions or alcohol brewing could be considered close
crisp umbra
yay
oblique scarab
@crisp umbra highly doubt it but there may be some form of substance in game players can make.. perhaps you can cook your own booze?
crisp umbra
they should add that
ashen herald
Hey AoC community I have been following the game for a few years now and bought a pack back in July of 2018. I then waited and now have no idea what I ordered lol. This SS is what I have in my inventory. Through my own research I "think" I have A1 but im not 100% on that if anyone could help me clarify it would be greatly appreciated. I submitted a help ticket on the site but they have yet to get back to me almost a week now. Thanks!
https://gyazo.com/629361f240aaa1d2de9f8fa808d30419
fading latch
Intrepid pre order pack contains Alpha 1 yes
ashen herald
so where it says upgrade 3
ashen herald
thank you @fading latch
steady ocean
@ashen herald https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Intrepid_pre-order_pack
You have Alpha 2/Beta 1/Beta 2 and had a chance to win the Alpha-0 access raffle
ashen herald
i dont have those item @steady ocean
onyx knoll
What tier did you buy? Like how much did you pay for it
steady ocean
Which pack/tier did you buy?
ashen herald
initial cost was 225 but then i was able to upgrade for another 250
it was right before some kind of website transition
ashen herald
which is why i think its so confusing on my end
onyx knoll
Ah yeah I see it, he has both the voyager and intrepid
Yeah you should have access to Alpha 1
fading latch
He will do
onyx knoll
and 12 month of in-game time, damn... that's a sexy deal
fading latch
I know right
ashen herald
thanks again so much @fading latch @onyx knoll @steady ocean
steady ocean
Xen beat me to it 😄
ashen herald
yall the real mvp
fading latch
We are here to help as much as we can
steady ocean
Have fun in Alpha 1! @ashen herald
ashen herald
😄
faint plover
Alpha 2 expectation?
steady ocean
The community is hoping for early to mid 2021, but it depends when the devs are satisfied with Alpha 1 testing
faint plover
Oukey, i hope in early Alpha 2, because if betas will be in 2022 that game will be launch on 2023
wanton fox
are there any support staff i can ask a question?
warm glen
any info if A2 will be under NDA?
steady ocean
It will not be @warm glen
wanton fox
If im buying the $250 pack today but i want the bulbasaur cosmetic from the current bog series is there anyway to avoid purchasing the whole thing and having to buy all the cosmetics for the new series?
steady ocean
@wanton fox Once cosmetics are gone from the store and change, you cannot buy past cosmetics
wanton fox
But like with a support ticket? It's currently the shop so maybe?
they arent gone yet...
Like what difference does it really make?
If i buy today anyway
fading latch
@warm glen Alpha 2 will not be under NDA so yes
onyx knoll
If you bought the 250$ pack then you should be getting the bog stuff, since it hasn't changed yet, no?
wanton fox
Yes but i only want bulbasaur and i want the new cosmetics more than these
steady ocean
If you buy in the next 30 mintes you will get the current cosmetics. Once the cosmetic theme changes, you will be able to buy individual cosmetics at the tier and lower in the next theme
onyx knoll
Ah, then sorry. You can individually buy the cosmetics from the next serie tho
wanton fox
but they are like $15 a pop
wanton fox
rip
oblique scarab
Will tavern owners be able to upload music to play in the Taverns?
fading latch
@oblique scarab Not upload. But there is VOIP in taverns. So you could theoretically play it over mic for everyone to hear
steady ocean
In theory it may be possible as Steven has talked about the possibility of tavern specific VOIP
oblique scarab
Playing music over voip is so bad lol
onyx knoll
yeah it's a mount skin
wanton fox
the rest i could care less about
onyx knoll
Sorry, that's the way they decided to set it up 😦
wanton fox
Would buying the wayfarer and then the cosmetic and then upgrading later today work?
or no
fading latch
@oblique scarab that would be your only option im afraid. Intrepid would need to buy a music licence and that can cost upwards to $200k
onyx knoll
no you would get the cosmetics from the pack currently live when you upgrade
wanton fox
thats what i mean
i buy wayfarer now
and then the mount
and then in 30 mins i upgrade
to the 250
steady ocean
You would need to purchase the lower tier cosmetics later
but you could get them yes
wanton fox
wdym
onyx knoll
No no, see the image i linked earlier
crystal beacon
wanton fox
I know
onyx knoll
you can only buy a cosmetic of the tier you own, so if you buy the wayfarer, that's just accessory
onyx knoll
(o'.')b
onyx knoll
Sorry, friend 😦
steady ocean
You can get the turtle mount and purchse the individual cosmetics in the new bundle
wanton fox
😩 ✋
steady ocean
if you wanted both
brittle vector
What are the benefits of divine nodes?
wanton fox
yeah but thats like the same as the 375 pack lol
onyx knoll
gets expensive tho
steady ocean
It does, just making sure the option was known
wanton fox
thanks tho
onyx knoll
@brittle vector we don't have a lot of info on the divine nodes yet, what we do know has been compiled here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Divine_nodes
steady ocean
They will be centers that house temples. These temples will be used as quest giving spots related to the deity you choose to follow, as you have to progress your journey in your religion. Outside of that we don't know much.
wanton fox
what are the benefits of religion rn anyway
steady ocean
There may be perks or augments tied to religion
onyx knoll
You might get some augments if you're ranked high enough in a religious org
Costumes are not race exclusive, no
steady ocean
@wanton fox No, you can apply the costumes to the gear
wanton fox
oh fuck yeah
crystal beacon
This will be a pain when they add tulnars .Good luck to the guy that does the costumes
wanton fox
lol
delicate idol
Is there gonna be a shapeshifter class?
wanton fox
man they really coulda had catgirls but nooo
mmmm
i dont think so
summoner is probably the closest thing to that with beast master but that isnt you changing its your summons into beasts
crystal beacon
@delicate idol no they making boring classes
onyx knoll
@delicate idol I don't believe there are plans for a shapeshifting clas
onyx knoll
Well, to be fair, we haven't seen ANY of the classes, so they cooooould all be boring 😛 But I doubt it haha
wanton fox
i mean there are people with alpha 0 access in my guild
onyx knoll
Obs is just annoyed because they refuse to make a monk class
crystal beacon
Every class that isnt monk is boring
wanton fox
fighter bard?
onyx knoll
Let's not start on a monk discussion here, please move it to #aoc-discussion ❤️
wanton fox
lol
crystal beacon
When should the new pack be on sale?
terse yarrow
^Was just about to ask that
final oxide
will there be sycthe weapons
steady ocean
In roughly 22 minutes.
tulip hatch
11am is when it cycles over
steady ocean
@final oxide You can view some weapon concept art here, and maybe find the weapon you are looking for: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons Most of the pictures are at the bottom of the page.
final oxide
thank you
crystal beacon
Do they add tier 2 mount skins once every few months in the packs?How does it work ?
onyx knoll
Not sure, seems to be random. Probably based on their production phases which we're not privy to
There hasn't been a lot of them in pre-order packs tho
I'm only seeing... 2 (edit: ok there's like 6. That's really not a lot considering how many packs there's been tho)
crystal beacon
Does XP and everything reset from alpha to beta to full release?
steady ocean
Alpha 2 will be a separate server from the Beta servers, and yes to reset before launch
gaunt brook
is my account that i created on intrepid site a NA account? Will i have access to EU servers for alpha/beta?
steady ocean
Yes, you can have your account transferred by submitting a ticket. This will include any of your purchases that you've made
onyx knoll
If you didn't purchase anything on the NA store, you can also just make an account on the EU website
gaunt brook
sweet, thanks a lot
crystal beacon
About eu site
steady ocean
@gaunt brook Even if you have an EU account, remember that servers are not region locked so you could still play on an EU or NA server from either type of account
tall beacon
Anything about say for example I’m a king or mayor whatever and I’m going on vacation irl, can I pass my powers onto a trustee until I return
onyx knoll
@tall beacon currently not as far as i know, but they might add something later on after testing
steady ocean
@tall beacon We only know that mayorship can only be passed on after the required time has passed. There could be some settings that officers are able to affect, but we don't have those details yet.
midnight iron
Do we know if each item will take up one inventory slot or there will be some tetris to play in your bags
tall beacon
Will inventory carry any weight on mobility
midnight iron
@onyx knoll 👍
onyx knoll
@tall beacon they're currently debating weight vs space, it could end up being an hybrid, that being said I haven't heard anything about if they do go for weight, that it would affect your speed
steady ocean
Some of the game showcases show off the inventory @midnight iron https://youtu.be/fkwaYLOuw2s?t=2602
A bit later in that video it shows Steven moving stacks of 300 stone that took up one spot, so seems to be that in general.
midnight iron
Thank you @steady ocean. Sorry for stupid questions like that, but because of unknowns like that I can't sleep properly at night.
You guys are doing a stellar job!
onyx knoll
hahaha, it's all good, I totally get it 😛
steady ocean
Your all's question help me learn too! 🙂
onyx knoll
I'm with TSG, answering questions is the best way to learn imo 😄
sturdy crater
does the game has a lore like world of warcarft's one ?
full badger
@sturdy crater It has lore, not exactly like WoW though https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore
onyx knoll
@sturdy crater Lol I hope not, WoW's lore is all over the place.... We don't know a lot of the lore so far because Steven says he wants to leave msot of it for players to discover inside the game, so we probably won't know a lot of the details until launch
sturdy crater
thanks alot
do you think the combat system will b similar to archeage one ? even tho archage had only tab target combat along with fewer action skills
full badger
Too early to tell right now
sturdy crater
I know,but since steven was a big fan of archeage,i think he is going towards that direction,for example the tank has the pull skill which is similar to the 'lasso skill'' in archage
steady ocean
@sturdy crater You can follow any streamers that have Alpha 1 access to get a basic idea (as A1 will only be up to lvl 20) and those with Alpha 2 access will be able to give us all a better idea as they will be able to unlock a full class at lvl 25
onyx knoll
wait did they change the level cap, i thought it was 20 for a1?
yeah, 20 is what wiki says
steady ocean
level 20 indeed, my mistake
onyx knoll
np np, I get where the confusion might be from tho, since they were talking about how they were lvl 10 in the last dev update video
sturdy crater
i follow paradox gaming alot,but didnt they say there will b an NDA from alpha 2 till release?
onyx knoll
no NDA
steady ocean
NDA will be dropped on Alpha-1 release
onyx knoll
NDA will drop when alpha 1 starts
sturdy crater
i see,so users who play the alpha 1 will only give us fewer informations
native crow
The current NDA is only for visuals, they can talk about it all they want
steady ocean
@sturdy crater Yes, the alpha 1 servers will have limited windows for players to test. Alpha 2 servers will be 24/7 (not including maintenance) and will have the full class system so will give us a better idea of the full combat mechanics to a limited degree
vivid sonnet
Hi any idea when the alpha 2 buy in is gonna be removed? if removed at all. im new here. This game looks sick. So im thinking of trying it ahead of time for my guild to feel it out.
steady ocean
The devs have only said they will give us plenty of heads up if they plan to remove it @vivid sonnet
onyx knoll
@vivid sonnet We don't know for sure. Alpha 1 is starting in fall so the alpha 2 packs will probably be on for a while still. They said they would give us a warning before they remove them tho
junior ore
Alpha 1 once released will be no nda. The current people are under nda are in a pre alpha 1 phase. The servers will not be persistent but obviously that would be a goal. Alpha 2 may not be persistent at first the goal is to have persistent servers but this does not mean it is the absolute case..
late vale
What do we know on guild name reservation, most importantly reserving room for all members on a server
?
junior ore
Not much.
rustic relic
they want to do it. thats what we know
junior ore
Also you’ll have to level up a guild to unlock more slots depending on your guild size
vivid sonnet
@steady ocean thanks. thats great to know. Man im so hyped to even try out the alpha test right now. cant wait
snow storm
5 castles all above ground? Or 4 up and one in underrealm?
onyx knoll
@late vale the guild NAME reservation was a high kickstarter backer thing and is no longer available. The guild grouping for servers is something they want to do but we probably won't have details on that until closer to launch
onyx badge
Do we know how many people will be able to be in one server at one time yet? And can you switch servers?
steady ocean
@snow storm 5 per server
onyx knoll
@onyx badge around 10k, and no server transfers
10k online and they said maybe up to 50k assigned to it
vivid sonnet
Also. my guild is mostly oceanic. any ideas on if they are planning any OCE or asian servers? =/
rustic relic
they are.
steady ocean
both OCE and SEA servers
junior ore
Do we know how many people will be able to be in one server at one time yet? And can you switch servers?
@onyx badge 10k concurrent is the goal. And the number we’ve used as reference. But Steven mentioned a number in the vicinity of 50k accounts on a server but this is subject to many conditions. No server transfers at first, will be reviewed and possibly changed accordingly but as of now transfers are a no go
snow storm
@steady ocean all servers have 5 castles located in static spots, but are those spots all above ground? Or is one in the underrealm?
onyx knoll
@snow storm we don't know yet
steady ocean
I don't think that is known
snow storm
Ok ty
vivid sonnet
This discord is really awesome lol so active XD
onyx knoll
@snow storm we probably won't know for a while since Alpha 1 will only have like 20% of the map available
junior ore
Some of us have been here chomping on this info for years
vivid agate
does anyone know why there isn't a druidic class?
junior ore
Stevens vision?
steady ocean
@vivid agate I don't know if anyone knows much about the classes as the augments have not been released
junior ore
That’s not exactly something that can be answered outside of Steven/is story really
gaunt karma
That's not really something there'd be an answer to other than 'they didnt want to have it'
sturdy crater
i think we have only seen a portion of the map,maybe at the same continent
where a node is next to the other
and they said the map is huge
so
sweet zodiac
Have they said when they will release more info on the classes?
gaunt karma
Map is 400km squared iirc
onyx knoll
480*
gaunt karma
Ah
sturdy crater
we have to wait for next AMA tater
onyx knoll
plus 100 km^2 in the underrealm
@sweet zodiac on the full classes, probably not until alpha 2
vivid agate
the only reason i ask is cause its typically the class I like to play, and i dont see a real like naturalist analog i guess maybe ranger or something
sturdy crater
can i know how big is archeage's map ? just to compare the scales
archeage used to b big,to travel with a boat from point A to B took almost half hours and sometimes hours
onyx knoll
no idea, never played archeage
steady ocean
You can probably google that info @sturdy crater
sturdy crater
i'll google that
steady ocean
@vivid agate Without knowing how the augments affect the primary skills I'd wait to make too many assumptions on how a class will play. I would keep an eye on the Shaman though as it may play to your style
junior ore
Scales won’t help much as it’s really about your relative movement speed to the size of the world it could be 5 km and still take hours if relatively you were slow
golden coral
The map will be big enough
gaunt karma
Idk about archeage, but for comparison Witcher Wild Hunt is around 220km squared, so more than double that
According to Google at least
junior ore
They have hinted at on foot travel times of hour(s) but nothing is truly set. Iirc the corner to corner apoc map which was a fraction of the world was like 15-20 on foot walk roughly. But you also had movement abilities to speed this up
sturdy crater
it takes less than 10 mins to go from velen to novigrad
upbeat jolt
@sturdy crater with mount you mean? or walk
also in bdo autopathing is slow af and takes almost 1 hour (40 mins? ) from one side to the other (main land only)
junior ore
^^
gaunt karma
I'm just telling you what Google said. Steven himself said that it would take multiple hours to get diagonally across the map
upbeat jolt
WoW is also really big and it's gonna take a long time for you to get from point A to the other side. BUT you have mounts. And in retail you have flying mounts.
junior ore
Bdo i would suspect in its current relative size would be comparible but without drift canceling speed
upbeat jolt
You can do side to side in 10-16 mins with drift cancel
@gaunt karma It will take more than multiple hours to go diagonally across the bdo map. That doesn't mean anything when you have a T8 courser. No need for dream horse.
sturdy crater
not sure if the speed will be 5km/min or an hour
pine basalt
so when does Alpha 2 open up?
gaunt karma
From the speed we've seen so far, mounts aren't all that fast, we don't know is thats going to be changed tho
crystal beacon
2021 maybe
sturdy crater
i heard alpha 1 will b later this year
full badger
so when does Alpha 2 open up?
@pine basalt No official date given yet. Community estimates sometime next year
sturdy crater
yeah,and then alpha 2 and then early access and then closed beta,open beta,beta and then full release
sturdy crater
so i believe the game will realse late 2021 early 2022
gaunt karma
Early access would be after betas
junior ore
but no one can buy into Alpha 1
@pine basalt not as of right now. Maybe if all goes well and Steven and team wanna push servers
pine basalt
maybe
sturdy crater
well,steven said we still have a loooooong way to go,and he said he wants to release the game in a perfect shape,so yeah,expect it to be accessible to everyone early 2022
pine basalt
where do you see how much Alpha one is
versed hollow
@pine basalt Alpha 1 is currently not available
pine basalt
bc i can only see Alpha 2 package
crystal beacon
You can t get in alpha 1 at the time
pine basalt
will you be able to able in the near future?
onyx knoll
If you never backed on kickstarter then you're out of luck
junior ore
You can’t upgrade to alpha 1 unless i becomes available again if it ever does
steady ocean
Alpha 1 upgrades are only available for people who backed the kickstarter or 2017 summer backer packs currently.
versed hollow
@pine basalt only if they deem that they need more testing, but i wouldn't count on it
pine basalt
ah ok
errant chasm
wait can i not use embers to buy cosmetics from other packs?
versed hollow
@errant chasm Embers will be used for purchasing cosmetincs from the cash shop when it's released
onyx knoll
no embers will be for when the game launches
errant chasm
oh oof i misunderstood that entirely thought ud be able to get like the next 6 mounts with the embers from the $375 pack
onyx knoll
ahh, sorry :/
fading latch
Embers are for the cash shop at launch
pine basalt
who else bought the Alpha 2 pack
steady ocean
Embers are for the in-game cosmetic shop. You will be able to purchase embers through the website, in place of the current pre-order packs
@pine basalt Probably a better question for #aoc-discussion as you may get more people involved
crystal beacon
Im buying it now
errant chasm
how long does it usually take purchased items to get into ur inventory i bought the snail mount, i got the conformation email, it shows up in my order history. but my inventory dosnt show it nor does the shop reflect me owning it
safe canopy
Question! Will I only be able to use embers to buy cosmetics? Or could I use embers to buy more game time if I get the prepackaged deal?
junior ore
Give it a bit
reef osprey
@safe canopy cosmetics
intrepid bucks = time
safe canopy
You sure? I can use the embers to buy game time too?
steady ocean
@safe canopy @reef osprey Embers are cosmetics only. You can use intrepid bucks for sub time if you get referrals who also purchase items https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Intrepid_Bucks
oak depot
Question - Vassal Nodes require a parent at Stage 3+ or 4+?
reef osprey
@steady ocean oh i thought they were the same, my bad
junior ore
Depends on the node?
versed hollow
@oak depot Stage 4 as long as the stage 3 node is in it's Zone of Influence
junior ore
3 is where all the node systems come online like mayors and buildings
oak depot
So wiki states: Nodes greater than stage 3 (Village) enslave nearby nodes, converting them into vassal nodes
greater is not the same thing as >=
junior ore
4 can vassal 3
3 has nothing to vassal
1/2 are still encampments without a government structure i guess is how to look at it
steady ocean
whichever makes it to stage 4 first wins the race
versed hollow
edited my responce so no misinformation goes around
reef osprey
@safe canopy seems lie i was wrong - only cosmetics
warm glen
I have another question, the play time in game-included in pre-order packs will start running ATER the game is released, or they will be counted at BETA start?
steady ocean
After launch @warm glen
reef osprey
after launch
junior ore
Day one official launch
sturdy crater
i think id rather join the launch day and just play like any other player in a fresh world where i dont know anything whats going on than playing alphas and betas and know exactly what to do on launch day
onyx knoll
that's a totally valid take! (that also isn't a question xD)
pine basalt
quick question when do you think people can use their name reservation?
full badger
No idea yet, but we'll be told in advance when it happens
onyx knoll
pine basalt
thx
gaunt karma
Have they said if players who make their freehold into taverns or inns will be able to use npcs to run them, or if you'd have to run it yourself?
gaunt karma
No
full badger
@dreamy temple All the servers will be wiped when the game launches
onyx knoll
@dreamy temple you mean from the alpha or beta? no
@gaunt karma I don't think they've said anything about hiring NPCs for taverns
gaunt karma
Darn. Thx
dreamy temple
that’s great. heard somewhere progress can be transferred to launch
seemed a bit unfair
onyx knoll
yeah no, that would be hella p2w
granite plinth
any idea when alpha 2 will start even like a wild guess?
gaunt karma
I think someone might have been talking about things from apoc, iirc skins you earned there xfer over?
crystal beacon
2021 2022
dreamy temple
late 2021
onyx knoll
only stuff you might be able to transfer would be skins earned in APOC or stuff like that
dreamy temple
game is still a long, long road from launch
full badger
@gaunt karma This is the only thing mentioned about NPCs in freeholds
reef osprey
@granite plinth 2nd half 2021
onyx knoll
@granite plinth we don't have any date for alpha 2, anything you see is just a guess
gaunt karma
@full badger tyty
crystal beacon
10 gold on 2021 tho
onyx knoll
sometime in 2021 is probably a safe bet, yeah, but again, we don't really know 😛
granite plinth
dam was hoping for a early 2021 now i hate it I didn't buy the pledge than because i didn't have the cash :/
crystal beacon
I just want to double/triple check about referral codes. If I didnt use one from a content creator at my account creation. So there isn't a way to get them the credit later, correct?
desert ivy
Nope
fossil shuttle
No
desert ivy
Have to do it during account creation
crystal beacon
oof
crystal beacon
I mean I just typed ashes of creation before the video ended and made an account. Then at the end he was like "use this code" lol
gaunt karma
Can you only use the referral rewards on the subscription? Cuz it would be kinda useless for anyone who got the alpha 1 or higher pack since they have lifetime subs
tulip hatch
You can use it to get embers so to purchase cosmetics or cash it out
junior pulsar
does anyone know when the actual launch will be ? as in this year or next. and for beta is it only a select few, or is it just sign up n request entry?
gaunt karma
Oh it can cash out? Thats cool
tulip hatch
There is no official launch ETA, intrepid does not provide ETAs unless theyre certain they can meet the date
wind bridge
will there be a sea server?
gaunt karma
Yes
wind bridge
noice
gaunt karma
Has there been any mention on when/if we'll be seeing ocean and ship to ship combat yet? Its what I'm hyped the most for and there seems to be pretty much no game play available to view of it yet
junior ore
No
full badger
@gaunt karma This is all we have so far
last oak
Last video showed off swimming it's in the works
severe cloud
Do we know when the my.games page will be up for pre-orders for EU? We are missing out on the exclusive cosmetics :(
stiff lotus
in regards to name reservation, what happens when 2 ppl want the same name? first come first served?
boreal abyss
@severe cloud can buy via Intrepid's site, tho you get VAT cost added
full badger
@stiff lotus higher tiered package-holders get priority
severe cloud
@boreal abyss yeah I kinda want to avoid that because VAT gets a bit too much on the bigger packs
boreal abyss
yh it does D:
oak herald
hi guys, I just need to register a forum account with my email and I get that housing item on release?
willow hatch
Do you only gain corruption by actually killing a non-combatant, or can you also get corruption by doing some amount of damage to a non-combatant but not killing them?
oak herald
ty
terse yarrow
I can't believe I missed out on the chance to reserve my name. Wish they would have made it clear that it was the last opportunity with the last packs...
full badger
@willow hatch only a killing blow on a non-combatant gains you corruption
hazy cosmos
Do we know if addons will be allowed? Coming from ESO where addons make the game more enjoyable kinda hope you can use them in AOC
full badger
@hazy cosmos no addons, no dps meters, no API
crystal beacon
I have a question.Did anyone here got a pack from my.game when it was available?What was the tax for a 375 pack?
cobalt glen
DPS meters are kind of cancer anyways. Not that they aren't indicative of skill to a certain extent, but they don't tell a full story.
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
ionic breach
For the pets are the pets something that follow you or are on your shoulder or something?
full badger
@ionic breach We don't know yet
ionic breach
I see thank you @full badger I see the cute frog skin
And was wondering how much other players would get to see it if I got it
quick surge
Hey guys any chance we can get some of the older packs?
full badger
Hey guys any chance we can get some of the older packs?
@quick surge You mean the cosmetics from previous months? No, they won't be available again
ionic breach
You cannot they said they are limited time but they said there may be slightly similar skins to earn or buy in the shop @quick surge
quick surge
damn i was surfing the wiki and saw the corvid hunter skin
that would be epic on a necro
last oak
Also will be better looking items in game you can earn or work on getting
bright gazelle
does any1 know how it will be working? bought my bundle araound august last year. do we get all skins which have been in the pre-order packages since then or only the ones which were on sale at this time
full badger
You only get the cosmetics from the time you bought the pack.
Any cosmetics from months after that have to be bought separately
bright gazelle
ok ty 🙂
whole dagger
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Corvid_Castigator
@quick surge this one, big pog
terse yarrow
@terse yarrow the 375 has name reservation
@reef osprey That's not available as of today. Unless I just missed it somehow.
reef osprey
it is
gloomy belfry
I apologize if this question has already been answered, but I am just wondering; though we have no word on any planned DLC's (as far as I know) - will the DLC be included in your subscription, or would it require an additional purchase of some kind?
steady ocean
included in sub, as well as expansions
full badger
There is no additional cost for DLC content
gloomy belfry
Cool, thank you 🙂
grim prairie
Are the prices for pre-ordering going to change after alpha ends?
crystal beacon
Alpha 2 doesnt end till launch
steady ocean
I'd imagine it would adjust once/if they remove alpha access, we will have to wait and see though
crystal beacon
Hence it wont i presume
gloomy mantle
Once the full game is released after Alpha 2, does this game have any plans for wiping?
desert ivy
Not when it's released
crystal beacon
There will be a wipe after alpha2