I was trying to find a nice easy link explaining the content creator program
#questions
dark jungle
oh, we dont have that stuff in the wiki currently. its really only focused on game systems
^ also
ruby swift
Yep, Toast just educated me to that. Hadn't had to use it before.
uneven fable
Are any quests going to be racially restricted, either at the starting areas (I know you can spawn at any) or later on?
uneven fable
Unable to be started or completed.
wild marsh
I don't think so, but I know that they may give you different greetings and interactions based on your race and class I believe.
ruby swift
I believe the info we have is no racial restriction, however certain npcs may react to you differently based on race in their replies was what I remember.
steady ocean
There will be racial quests. You can read more https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Quests here
uneven fable
Thanks!
compact moss
What exactly will the largest pre order package of AOC do for me? What are the short term benefits? I see it says access to alpha 1 but I can’t find when that is supposed to be released. I just purchased it today.
fading needle
sharp hare
You can only acces Alpha 2 at this point
compact moss
I can access it right now??
sharp hare
Alpha 1 packages " might " come at some point
steady ocean
@compact moss Lets you rest assured that you will have access to Alpha 2 in addition to the other benefits.
desert ivy
Unless you upgraded a kickstarter pack, you didn't buy a pack today that gives access to alpha 1
sharp hare
reef osprey
@skip what do you mean?
solid 8/10
2nd best mount we've ever had
sharp hare
Alpha 2 acces is obtainable with the 2nd most expensive one if you are looking for the acces only
grand flame
When does alpha 2 begins?
grand flame
awesome, thanks
compact moss
So alpha 2 doesn’t have a release date?
steady ocean
Not currently, once the devs are satisfied with the Alpha 1 testing we will get more news.
compact moss
Damn
crystal beacon
2021?
steady ocean
Most likely, but we don't know for sure.
compact moss
So the package I just bought doesn’t actually do anything for me right now?
crystal beacon
No
steady ocean
@compact moss Locks in some cool cosmetics 🙂
desert ivy
The package I bought for $500 in 2018 still doesn't currently do anything for me 
undone pasture
Hello guys, I understand that support is probably going nuts right now cause of the impeding alpha but I opened a ticket 2 days ago to make sure that my package upgrade when through but I have not heard any thing back. I can see the purchase on my account and I got an email that said I was "Leader of Men" and that I was in the next pre-alpha but nothing else. I do not want pester them but what loose expectation of time should I expect for a ticket update and a confirmation that everything is kosher?
compact moss
I hope to get something real cool for $400 😂
steady ocean
@undone pasture Just wait for a reply.
late vale
u get to play lol
compact moss
Well so do people that didn’t buy a package.
crystal beacon
You get a frog
compact moss
I just hope it’s actually cool though you know what I mean
cursive aspen
So how often does alpha 1 testing happen? And who can even play in it
wild marsh
@undone pasture There's people that have been waiting for over a week. They've seen a massive influx of people, and as a result their response times have gone up significantly.
desert ivy
People who bought a pack with alpha 1 access
and we don't have a specific time for when tests will happen
sometimes they may happen for 10 hours a day, sometimes not at all some days, sometimes towards the end it may run for days at a time
compact moss
Like I hope they didn’t just design something that is gonna look second best to something everyone can get.
grand flame
When is alpha 1 release?
wild marsh
@grand flame Around the end of Fall.
grand flame
i thought they had a set date from their latest livestreams
ruby swift
The date was given as "August"
compact moss
The page someone linked said the last update they posted was a month ago
steady ocean
@compact moss The cosmetics you can earn in game will be on par or better than shop cosmetics. Art is subjective though. For more discussion though, you can always ask others' opinions in #aoc-discussion
ruby swift
Current testing is under NDA, that is all you are going to get till they announce it.
sharp hare
Dilly its a matter of taste and preference 🙂 There will be achievable cosmetics trought the game, but these cosmetics we get now before release will never ever be seen again on the store
grand flame
i see
compact moss
Dilly its a matter of taste and preference 🙂 There will be achievable cosmetics trought the game, but these cosmetics we get now before release will never ever be seen again
@sharp hare I’m on board with that, I just hope they’re cool is all I’m saying. It’s a complete blanket statement.
proven root
ofc they will be
compact moss
Latest update a month ago here
ruby swift
proven root
will they fit your own preferences?
ruby swift
proven root
only you can tell
steady ocean
Remember discussion should directed to #aoc-discussion Questions and answers is the purpose for this channel. 🙂
undone pasture
@wild marsh understandable. And I am a patient person. I was just wanting to get a "loose" sense of expected response. Its all about communication and with not even a "kiss my butt" or "bugger off" response in two days is not the end of the world but it does start to make a person wonder especially when there is not much in the way of the autoresponder on expected wait time. I will give it a little more time and see.
appreciate the help.
steady ocean
@undone pasture Toast responded earlier to someone else that asked. I'd recommend searching for her name to see her response or scroll up.
wild marsh
It's more than likely a first come first server type of system. If there's 10,000 messages, and only 10 people doing responses it could take a while.
fast meteor
I'm sure this question has turned up here but with the package that comes out on August 5th, the rewards are the same as the bog skins right? They are just different types of skins if the original bog skins didn't entice you to buy in to preordering? Or am I missing something?
steady ocean
New cosmetics yes, the other benefits remain. Sometimes the cosmetics offered change though. So 1 pack may contain a mount skin, and another may have a caravan skin for example @fast meteor
fast meteor
So if you bought into the bog skins, you don't get these right? I'm fine with only getting 1 set, I just want to make sure its not "Buy the bog set now so you can get all the subsequent skins that release later!"
ruby swift
You have the option to purchase at your tier or lower in all future months.
sharp hare
You will have a chance to buy the next cosmetics separately up to your package
undone pasture
Which Toast? There are three with "toast" in there name and only one has any posts and they are from 2017
fast meteor
Gotcha, thank you all!
ruby swift
@fast meteor This helps visualize https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/257283936756039680/740203385919111259/Individual_purchase.png
steady ocean
the one that is listed under "Community Manager" on the right hand side list of people. Lieutenant Toast (LieutenantToast #1337) @undone pasture
fast meteor
@ruby swift Very much a visual person, so this helps a lot.
steady ocean
@fast meteor
ruby swift
Yep, that is what I linked.
steady ocean
For the folks that don't trust links
coarse sonnet
So basically, if I've previously bought any of the packs, I could just say, purchase a freehold skin for $25 each month after that if I liked it?
candid lava
@coarse sonnet only if you bought the highest pack
pliant ocean
@coarse sonnet You have to purchase the appropriate tier. Freehold skins only appear in the $375 pack. So you would need to buy the $375 pack before you can individually purchase future freehold skins.
coarse sonnet
Rgr, thank you.
scarlet flower
Will there be exp penalty for +/- levels of monsters?
wild marsh
I believe steven said no to that. @scarlet flower
scarlet flower
Wont that open the path to boosting chars?
ruby swift
Not for plus, for minus yes. Once you outlevel them they so far in testing give no exp.
@scarlet flower They said they have a workaround for that. They just haven't said yet.
scarlet flower
Oh, they sneaky, cool thanks!
low path
Is the headstart thing that founder level backers got still a thing?
wild marsh
Yeah, but node progression are turned off and a max level you can achieve are a thing with that.
steady ocean
For a few servers, yes. But they will be severely limited.
low path
oof
sharp wing
oof
@low path There is also going to be no xp going into building nodes.
low path
still an oof
steady ocean
Think the max level they can get is lvl 10 and no node progress for example. I wouldn't worry too much about it. You can choose to not play on their server if you would like.
sharp wing
^ Correct
low path
Has it been mentioned how long the alphas are?
ruby swift
As long as needed is all they have said
rigid rose
There are no set dates for Alpha test periods 🙂
hazy matrix
What will be the main focus of the game actually? is it like a 50 - 50 between pvp or pve or mainly pve? like endgame wise
fair jasper
There is no end game
ruby swift
Yep. PVX
hazy matrix
Sure but the best gear obtainable is through raiding and also grindable through worldboss iirc?
ruby swift
Or crafted
fair jasper
^^
strange dagger
They need to fix the combat system brothers
hazy matrix
yeah but they need mats to be crafted gained through worldbosses if i understood one of their streams correctly
steady ocean
@strange dagger Sounds like a good topic for #aoc-discussion
steady ocean
No @hazy matrix
ruby swift
Pvp changes the world to give you those chances.
strange dagger
like bdo not totallly similar but ....
hazy matrix
so pve is mainly the endgame if you want the best gear and we dont know if there will be pvp only gear?
cursive aspen
Did alpha 1 testing start already?
ruby swift
There is no difference in pvp vs pvp gear. They are not doing a traditional endgame as themepark people know it.
steady ocean
@hazy matrix There is no specific pvp gear. It is just crafting/gear dropped in a raid
hazy matrix
Sure but what I would call the endgame is obtaining the best gear in the game and gonna assume raiding is the fastest way of getting there
ruby swift
Never good to assume. There will be many paths to "endgame" as you are defining it.
hazy matrix
atleast personally for me
steady ocean
There will be pvp augments you can get at the end of a pvp season. You can look up more on that on the wiki.
sharp wing
Sure but what I would call the endgame is obtaining the best gear in the game and gonna assume raiding is the fastest way of getting there
@hazy matrix Best in slot will play on many factors in obtaining. Maybe you are rich? You could just buy it and not raid.
hazy matrix
@sharp wing Sure, but from what i understood on a livestream cant recall which one, you could get the "BIS" gear from crafting aswell but would take longer but is mainly obtained through the raiding which is what im curious about
crystal beacon
When will AOC be released
ruby swift
When it is done cooking
crystal beacon
no way..
hazy matrix
game is not even in alpha 1 yet? So seems possible bud
ruby swift
There is no set date. Anyone that gives you one is just speculating. Usually badly.
tiny nimbus
If it’s not already out there can we get info on the deities/churches?
reef osprey
- september 2022
ruby swift
That will most likely be in the religious node blogs/articles that have yet to be released. Design still has to give the final approval to MK.
crystal beacon
no fun mmorpgs are out right now so that’s why i’m hoping this will come out asap
sharp wing
@tiny nimbus https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Religions This is really all we know. Expect a blog at some point on it.
reef osprey
whats MK?
hazy matrix
@crystal beacon the faster you push a game, the worse it will be usually a general rule about any product
ruby swift
Margaret Krohn....look to the right.
crystal beacon
yeah i know but why are people making videos about it coming out soon if we’re gonna have to wait 3 years
hazy matrix
cause allpha 1 is none nda, so is alpha 2 and betas iirc
ruby swift
One guy made a video about the game. He never mentioned "soon"
hazy matrix
so the game is "playable" and learnable in a few months
crystal beacon
he said Coming in 2020
hazy matrix
thats the alpha then
ruby swift
It got picked up by the streamers. And BOOM. More people.
crystal beacon
what about Beta phases when do you think those will come as speculation
reef osprey
@crystal beacon who did?
ruby swift
THey will come after alpha
hazy matrix
mid or late 21? is my guess xd
reef osprey
about 1-3 months before release
reef osprey
@hazy matrix intrepid stated that beta will only be a few weeks long each
it is supposed to be 98% done by the time the game hits beta
hazy matrix
well there you go it was just a guess as he asked for one 😄
past pewter
in NA can we expect to see east coast, west coast, and central servers respectively?
desert ivy
West and East yes
ruby swift
All estimates of length of testing periods given prior to March 2019 have been disavowed.
desert ivy
Central is still being decided
hot escarp
When is the launch guys? and did they say how many server going to be there?
hazy matrix
wait like 2 to 4 years @hot escarp
tame prism
is Alpha One already going on?
pliant ocean
Fall 2020
sharp hare
Pre alpha 1 atm
hazy matrix
someone linked me this earlier look here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
tame prism
oh sweet thanks
hot escarp
thanks. I'll check it. if this game really is what they said in the video. oh boy.
proven crystal
As one who plays rogue in dnd, I’m curious to see what powers it will bring to the table
hazy matrix
depends on your secondary class i assume
hot escarp
The thing is they said, it has everthing for everyone
rotund herald
Okay i was looking in faq but could not see my questions so im just asking it here :D. so i have a kickstarter pledge i want to upgrade over 2 month rn i have the Founder and i want to upgrade it into Braver of worlds, is there a way to do the payment over two months or would i first have to upgrade to warrior of old and then the price would be discounted for when i buy braver of worlds right?
dark jungle
that sounds like a question for customer service
storm saddle
I had a typo when I registered my username on the intrepidstudios website, will this effect anything related to in game and also is there any way to change it? As I cannot register another account on the same email or delete my account.
cursive aspen
Someone keeps saying the release is in 2-4 years in this discord. Is that true?
earnest cliff
5 years confirmed
cursive aspen
I’ve looked at that. I just wonder where they got that info from.
coral forge
Rough estimations from the devs that they explicitly say to take with a grain of salt
sharp hare
Some get it from other game, from previous experiences etc none of them are viable with Ashes since its something no one done before
cursive aspen
I understand. Just weird for people to be saying 2-4 years. A lot of hype has hit this game this last month or so. So it’s hard to tell what’s true and not
coral forge
Definitely normal !
earnest cliff
@storm saddle Shouldn't matter as long as your fine having the wrong username on the website. I assume by the fact that you need to spend like $400 to reserve an in game username that you will register whatever username you want on launch.
sharp hare
Hype is hit mostly because of their recent releases / Peons video / streamer interwiews
storm saddle
Well I did get the forum name I wanted so I suppose its not so bad as long as it doesn't mess with anything in game
sharp hare
and ofcourse Alpha 1 without NDA
coral forge
And the content shown living up to expectations of players, let's give this one to the devs 😄
earnest cliff
If this somehow flops i think i'll have to find a new hobby
cursive aspen
1 more questions I preordered the 375 edition. Will that go into alpha 1. At the bottom on the wiki page it said they would eventually let pre order editions in. And I’m assuming that’s what I got?
sharp hare
No alpha 1 is for kickstarters and summer backers.
But :" Alpha-1 sales may resume if Alpha-1 testing goes well "
cursive aspen
Ahhh. Was just curious.
steady ocean
If they need more testers, they could open up the ability to purchase A1 access via the pre-order pack upgrades. But it is not currently available @cursive aspen
visual cosmos
Does anyone know when the next “set” for the voyager packs are going to come out? Personally not a massive fan of the swamp aesthetic but I do want to pre-order
steady ocean
@visual cosmos Tomorrow
visual cosmos
@steady ocean oh sick! Do we know what it is?
visual cosmos
Thanks you all!
finite mesa
Those who have the "Leader of Men" package gett access sum time this month
cursive aspen
So since I got the voyager pack I assume I can just buy the cosmetics that come out separately each month?
sharp hare
Yes
cursive aspen
Awesome! Thank you
oblique cedar
The turtle is real
heavy glacier
oblique scarab
@finite mesa you got sauce for that statement?
sharp hare
Google :ashes of creation kickstarter, all packages and info about alpha 1 acces. As for this month that is unclear. it falls under category of " Fall " in relase schedule.
desert ivy
@cursive aspen You'd need the Voyager Plus to buy the caravan, freehold, and costume cosmetics
steady ocean
@oblique scarab "I am happy to announce that we will be expanding the testing group starting in August to include Leader of Men pack holders as we begin to ramp up the testing of Alpha One. Those of you who are Leader of Men pack holders will receive separate emails near the end of July with download links and instructions." https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-07-02-creative-directors-letter
rare geyser
will a town be able to have zero taxes and operate on donations?
oblique scarab
Not likely.
rare geyser
cringe
steady ocean
You can have zero taxes, but you cannot donate directly to the treasury as far as we know. That's kind of what the tax system is for.
oblique scarab
The towns will always have a tax rate.. the mayor night lower the tax rate to the minimum which will probably be like 10% but it could ruin the economy of that node
crystal beacon
If I don't want to buy a pre-order pack cuz I don't like the skins atm, should I just wait?
sharp hare
In previous tests people were able to donate materials straight to the building, might be an option
steady ocean
Taxes are not materials, it's currency. @sharp hare
@crystal beacon Probably? You can check out the new skins that will be released tomorrow in #news
frail solar
can the processing professions only be done in freeholds?
steady ocean
In nodes and castles as well I'd imagine if the mayor/monarch chooses to build the appropriate buildings.
crystal beacon
@steady ocean yea, I dont like them. The previous skins were way cooler.
steady ocean
@crystal beacon You can always wait until September when they change again.
sharp hare
@steady ocean Aware of that, comment was related to donations, not taxes. Thats why i excluded the word taxes from it just a donation. Piece of information that relates to donations.
lapis aurora
has anyone else gotten this email?
“Glorious Ashes of Creation community!
We’ve had an exciting month as our family here at Intrepid Studios continues to grow, and we’re still hiring more folks to join us on this journey. It’s been a joy to share our progress towards Alpha One, which will begin late this Fall 2020 with our Braver of Worlds and above backers as well as Intrepid Pack holders. If you missed any of our updates this month, we’ve put together a few of our favorite highlights below. We’ve got a lot for you, so enjoy!”
lapis aurora
yeah but i has a question about the top part
crystal beacon
that's the email I got lol
lapis aurora
does that mean intrepid packs get into alpha 1?
crystal beacon
no
kickstarter backers
preorders only get in during alpha 2
and even then, not all kickstarter backers
lapis aurora
ohhhhhh okay that’s what i thought but i was confused
sharp hare
lapis aurora
thank you that helps clear things up
crystal beacon
oh wow, I didn't know about that one
sharp hare
np
steady ocean
@lapis aurora That's just an informational email that summarizes what all happened during July.
lapis aurora
okay thanks sometimes i am a little dense
neon rapids
So... I bought the voyager plus preorder pack a few days ago, but didn't know they changed. I'm not a huge fan of the cosmetics I got and really like the ones coming out on the 5th... Think there's a chance I can swap em?
crystal beacon
cancel pre-order?
sharp hare
Yes, refund time is 30 days, but i dont know exact info about it.
pale goblet
So I went through the refund process and havent heard anything back about it. I wanted to order the 375. package and instead opened it up on my phone and did the 99 package through paypal. While waiting for refund reply i bought the 375. package. Is there anyway to get an update for that or is it a waiting game?
ornate veldt
Will there be a reigon block on the game when it gets out ?
sharp hare
No region blocks with current info
sharp wing
You are region blocked to a server/region if you are paying at that countries rate.
oblique scarab
@ornate veldt to our knowledge the way it works is you sub to a specific region and if ya wanna play on a different one you need another sub.. or so they said
steady ocean
@pale goblet Why didn't you just upgrade your $99 to the $375? In any case, it will take some time as customer support is backlogged at the moment.
pale goblet
Sorry it was the actuall side game currency not the package
it was my mistake obviously, and havent heard boo back about the refund process i went through about it
steady ocean
Gotcha, I'd wait a few days and see if they get back to you, but they will eventually as they work down the support tickets.
pale goblet
Its been several days.
steady ocean
There are a lot of people sending in tickets for various reasons.
pale goblet
i can wait longer no biggie
just would like someone to coddle me and tell me everything will be ok
lol
oblique scarab
@pale goblet everything will be ok. AoC is gonna be the great mmorpg you want and deserve.
near horizon
If you have access to alpha 1 do you also get to take part in the headstart?
novel ice
Any chance they'll create a console version for this like ESO did?
steady ocean
correct at this time @near horizon
@novel ice No plans currently, but they may in the distant future
near horizon
damn, that's rough
novel ice
Good enough for me @steady ocean . ESO on console has opened a huge population up to mmo's.
bronze birch
If I recall correctly a number of the key game system will not be functional during pre release anyway so not a big deal
desert ivy
During headstart the levelling will be capped and the node system will be disabled
hollow plume
Seem to remember Steven saying the node system won't be active in the early access
desert ivy
But there will be specifically marked headstart servers, so you can easily just join a server that isn't headstart
mystic vigil
where does it say that?
desert ivy
What part?
mystic vigil
that there will be seperate servers for headstart
sharp hare
steady ocean
Check the wiki, but I think it is 1 per region
mystic vigil
ah
crystal beacon
How long it takes for someone corrupted become uncorrupted
wanton mauve
Hopefully a year
steady ocean
However long it takes them to work off the corruption debt
sharp hare
As long as it takes to grind the exp difference between your corrupted state and the normal state
crystal beacon
Ok so here is my second question what if soneone corrupted is royal and can fly, cant he just fly up high and wait till soneone from his group get that xp ?
hollow plume
Iwould say that corruption is player based not group?
sharp hare
In many games there is a range for exp share. Not sure how they will do it here but i assume there will be a range for exp to reach a player. If he is too high he wont get any exp.
There is also a possibility for exp not be gained in party if you dont partisipate in kills also implemented in many games
crystal beacon
But still he can basically fly up high and no one can reach him
crisp holly
Yep, but he's stuck corrupted until he dies enough times or gets enough XP
oblique scarab
Corrupted players cant enter towns right?
crisp holly
And who knows, maybe someone can still hit them up high as we don't know how you will be able to fly
steady ocean
They will be attacked by guards if they do @oblique scarab
crisp holly
^
crystal beacon
I think they can bcs what if mayor would be corrupted
zenith acorn
With how much player dependent content is there, are there measures in place (NPC alternatives) in case a player is not available for a specific quest or for the creation of an item or if there's no nodes near one another?
tardy mortar
Are there any game soundtracks available for content creators?
cursive aspen
Do you think alpha 2 will start this year?
zenith acorn
Alpha 1 will start this year
sharp hare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ePbSTIfSGY @tardy mortar
steady ocean
@cursive aspen Probably a good topic for #aoc-discussion We have no definite answer here
tardy mortar
I know Bear McCreary is still writing stuff for B1, but is there anything else available for now?
@violet thicket ty
crisp holly
People will want to spread out due to nodes getting filled up and events that happen around the world will need people to deal with them @zenith acorn
tardy mortar
@violet thicket do you know if there will be any DMCA worries using those tracks?
sharp hare
@tardy mortar Cant answer that someone more knowledgable have to take that on
But so far those soundtracks has been used by content creators in YT
zenith acorn
@crisp holly My worry is on specific things .. like say you need a smelter of a certain level to smelt stuff but he's not available in your node or he's logged out or whatever.. is the only solution to travel to other nodes to try and find one just to smelt a single item ?
steady ocean
@zenith acorn Yes, if you can't smelt it yourself
crystal beacon
It's an mmorpg sir you will need friends
zenith acorn
Hypothetical situation man .. @crystal beacon
crisp holly
But the answer is probably yes
midnight knot
for the people who buy the $375 package, when will name reservation open?
steady ocean
During Alpha 1, after all the kickstarter/summer backers reserve their name
sharp hare
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Name_reservations more info if needed
crisp holly
For high level things, if it takes a long time to become a master of X. You will likely need to wait for them, and pay them, to do that for you because they will likely be in high demand. @zenith acorn
midnight knot
thanks guys
steady ocean
Your character's name doesn't travel over servers. So if someone takes your name on 1 server, you can snag it on another possibly @midnight knot
midnight knot
oh cool
it'd be cool if they thre in q skipping or somehting for the players who backed for so long. not that I have
but that would be a perk that made me buy it
crystal beacon
i saw in some early footage of a character using a gun as a weapon. Will that be a playable class or something different?
steady ocean
Probably was a crossbow @crystal beacon
crisp holly
@crystal beacon no gun powder in this game I believe
crystal beacon
hmm thats too bad. it would've been pretty cool to see
snow storm
Can you have 2 metros in one castle zoi?
zenith acorn
@crisp holly That's what i was thinking .. if something like that might end up annoying players (if hypothetically they have done it a few times) as they might have to end up waiting days just to get one thing ready.
steady ocean
@snow storm No, the metros ZoI are very large
crystal beacon
how much do the skins cost after pre-ordering?
sharp hare
snow storm
If at opposite sides of the castle zoi, it still isnt possible?
If they're really that big, having 5 metros would require perfect placement, no?
crystal beacon
@steady ocean cant buy with ember?
steady ocean
@crystal beacon No, embers can only be used after launch in the in-game cosmetic shop
near horizon
I want the snorse
snow storm
Otherwise your server will only have 3 or 4
near horizon
I will need to buy the snorse
crisp holly
@zenith acorn it might be but hopefully that will be answered in the testing before launch and things can be done to fix the issue
zenith acorn
Yep @crisp holly .. alot of questions in my head but i think i need to wait and see what the alpha has to get some of those answers
steady ocean
@zenith acorn Make sure you let your crafter know before they log off. It should be easy to coordinate by just letting them know you are gathering the materials, and they will let you know when they are available to craft. Simple
It's the same in every single MMO
zenith acorn
@steady ocean .. that was just 1 hypothetical, i have alot relating to mainly the game's player dependence for content and what if due to some random hypothetical situation players aren't available for a task/event/whatever and what do we do then ... i just have to wait and see how everything plays out.
crystal beacon
What is community manager ?
steady ocean
Your assumption is that only 1 other player can fill that role, when in reality a castle/node will most likely have a lot of those crafters/adventurers. But you can always post your concerns over in #aoc-discussion if you just want to discuss the possibilities. May help ease your worries.
@crystal beacon A staff member that assists in managing social media/community related events.
zenith acorn
True .. Its fine though .. nothing im losing sleep over or anything, just thoughts in my head.. i can wait till the alpha to find out.
stable plover
@crystal beacon The Community Managers are actual employees, the mods are volunteers.
crystal beacon
@stable plover if i spam them enough will they tell devs to make monk class ?
sorry but i have to ask again: when will the eu shop be updated again?
desert ivy
Best chance of a monk class is years after release when they release expansions
but even then, new archetypes are going to be very rare
since it's a ton of work to add them
More so than other mmorpgs
crystal beacon
Why tf everyone thinks monks are fking healers
sharp hare
@crystal beacon Dungeons and Dragons Online Monk and WoW one
plucky pawn
Spam is definitely counterintuitive to getting what you want 😉 sharing nice, constructive discussions on places like the forums is a way better way to go about it!
stable plover
@crystal beacon So a bit of how that works, Toast will collect community feedback and pass it onto the devs, but part of that is telling the difference between a handful of people asking for something repeatedly vs most people in the community thinking that something in particular is lacking. Some things are unlikely to change even with community feedback, like outright adding more classes for launch (not happening because the devs want to avoid scope creep) and some things like changing the class names are unlikely to happen because as something that's a passion project, if Steven really loves something it's not going to change.
crystal beacon
also, does someone know an answer to my question?
desert ivy
Are you talking about the my.games shop?
crystal beacon
yes
desert ivy
If so we don't have a date for that
Steven said he was going to give an update on it "soon" last week
crystal beacon
is there an info regarding the current pack
if i want to purchase that but the shop wont be up
desert ivy
I mean, you're able to just buy off the Intrepid site
You can then transfer that account to my.games later on
crystal beacon
us is 70 euros more expensive for the same thing
Monks are supposed to rip your shoulders apart with one kick and not to heal you
@plucky pawn i would like to make nice discussion about how awesome monks are but my english is very bad
sharp hare
@crystal beacon You can do so at #aoc-discussion there are plenty of people who might share your love for monks 😉
crimson flume
Hi there, is there any specific way to sign up for the beta release or even though we are currently in Alpha, the alpha release? Thanks for your time!
sharp hare
@crimson flume Buy a package that contains beta acces or Betas won through the weekly drawings
onyx knoll
@crimson flume https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop you can purchase a pre-order pack that gives you access to the beta or alpha 2
cyan coral
so my.games will be the EU shop for the game ?
onyx knoll
@cyan coral yes once they fix it, the EU shop doesn't work at the moment
crimson flume
So the only way to get access to beta phase is $75 or higher? ok thank you!
Also another question can people in these alpha and beta phases reserve name or guild names? Or is it something that on release everyone will be picking names again?
cyan coral
i wanted to buy i pack from the web but becaseu of taxes and vap ,if i buy the 150 dolars i need to pay more 46 euros becaue i live in Portugal
onyx knoll
correct
crystal beacon
@sharp hare they dont understand monks they think monk is supposed to be healer
crude quiver
Hi everyone. New here....I just bought a pre-order pack and returned my Amazon New World Pre-order
onyx knoll
@crimson flume name reservation is only in the 375$ pack
dark jungle
welcome @crude quiver !
crimson flume
So there goes the good names LOL
crude quiver
thanks
plucky wigeon
are names server or the whole game?
dark jungle
server
plucky wigeon
sweet
cyan coral
@onyx knoll ty m8. but if i buy i pack in that website ,how will work my account in game ?
onyx knoll
@cyan coral You'll be able to transfer everything to your EU account if you end up deciding to play on a EU server
sharp hare
@crystal beacon I do understand what you mean and if that was a question i would answer it with a suggestion to gather enought people who want the monk class, make a petition with enought signatures and send it to devs. Cross your fingers and pray. But discussion of it should be kept out of this channel. Try stay close as you can get to questions and answers + possibly related info to clarify either of those 🙂 PS I do love DDO Monk
ivory latch
monks can heal too but can fight too
cyan coral
@onyx knoll ok i see.But right now i only have the account that i have created in the ashes/intrepid studios , that will be my account in game ?
ivory latch
yes
onyx knoll
@cyan coral here is the official website for EU, you can try making an account there too https://aocreation.com/en
sharp hare
You will be able to transfer your account from there to the EU publisher.
onyx knoll
I'm in NA tho so I haven't looked into it a ton
cyan coral
oh i dint know that was already a EU website,ty so much.
steady ocean
@crystal beacon put in a ticket to have your account transferred over if you purchased a pre-order pack on an NA account
crystal beacon
ok, it was just a theoretical question
ivory latch
didnt know there are 2 websites for the game wtf
crystal beacon
i wont pay 70 euros more for the same pack lol
cyan coral
@sharp hare can u tell me how to do it please ?
rich kraken
what do you mean? 70 euro's more for the same pack? @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
if i buy the us pack as an eu citizen
sharp hare
TavernSideGamingtänään klo 01.46
@crystal beacon put in a ticket to have your account transferred over if you purchased a pre-order pack on an NA account that is all i know about it
rich kraken
if you buy the us pack as an eu citizen then the price will be converted to euro's? it's listed as dollars atm.
sharp hare
@cyan coral I havent tested it myself yet, been paying on the NA website myself even thought im EU
steady ocean
@rich kraken VAT tax is added and I think it stays as dollars if you use the NA store
cyan coral
ok ty @sharp hare .But i dint buy nothing yet from the shop. So i can simple create an account on the EU website right ?
ivory latch
yes
hollow plume
It's not Intrepid's fault, they have to add the tax
sharp hare
Yes that would be easier if you dont value the originality of your account that much to transfer it @cyan coral
ivory latch
i have 2 refs will they migrate to eu publisher ?
cyan coral
ok ty m8
crystal beacon
how much can you buy with embers?
approximately
now sure if this has been answered before but what are Embers for? to buy cosmetics form cash shop ?
steady ocean
In game cosmetics after the game launches @crystal beacon
rich kraken
not sure if ''it isn't there fault'' is at play here. this has been going on for quite some time that eu ppl can't buy unless they want to pay a lot more
sharp hare
@crystal beacon Havent heard anyone mentioning anything about the cost in cash shop most likely its not even made yet
steady ocean
@crystal beacon you can’t use embers until after launch
crystal beacon
yeah i know
but how much will they be worth
how much will one mount skin cost for example
wary folio
Just assume something like from other games between 20-30 bucks
sharp hare
No one knows but you can make some speculations with the amount of embers added with spesific package
steady ocean
I would compare the value of the varying cost of the ember packs to the individual cosmetics for a rough idea, but that may change on launch
cyan coral
i have create a EU/my.games account ,should i need to download the gamecenter in order to play ashes in the future?
sharp hare
@cyan coral Tbh no idea but i assume it would go like that. But for now i would not do anything until we are closer to release.
cyan coral
ok ty m8
sharp hare
As for Alpha Beta access there will be separate information for those who can partisipate in them how to when to etc 😄
Im Alpha 2 so can verify this maybe next year 😛
hardy bolt
Steven said before that all my.com do is handle the servers, you'll still be downloading intrepids own client for AoC
bleak tulip
will everyone who has an intrepid account be able to character creation at the same time when they release the ability to do so
?
errant chasm
think you get name reservations idk if u can make ur toon early with the packs tho
hardy bolt
@cyan coral
plucky copper
I think you only get name rteservation with the voyager+ pack
bleak tulip
i know he mentioned that character creation would be released early
so that we didnt have to spend time in character creation when launch happens
plucky copper
^ He did mention that
bleak tulip
my question is, does it release for everyone at the same time, or does it depend on the keys you have access to
cyan coral
ok ty @hardy bolt ,and that makes sense ,i think my.com will be only to buy the packs .
hardy bolt
im not sure about that either because intrepid have their own store you purchase the game from
and cosmetics
remote osprey
is there any info on changing the artisan class? or once path is picked you can't go back?
hardy bolt
it's literally just the servers and logistics of that im pretty sure :+1:
sharp cobalt
uhm, hello, are the voice channels used to discuss things about the game?
steady ocean
They can be
sharp cobalt
i see
crystal beacon
alpha 2 will be till game launch, right?
onyx knoll
and beyond
onyx knoll
could be for many things, like stress tests, or testing specific modes, we don't know yet what they wana do with them
crystal beacon
kk
pliant ocean
To test long term server mechanics.
crystal beacon
i see, so alpha 1 will be continuous and wont get reset within=
meaning i can basically play the game like it should till real launch
distant charm
Where do you Activate your forum badge from preorders? i only have 2 badges but their from using the forums
sharp hare
Just remember some things may change along the way depending on how it goes 🙂
jagged notch
"In addition to the cosmetic items granted with the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack at the time of purchase, you will also be entitled to purchase future monthly cosmetics as add-ons for the Voyager Plus Level Pre-Order Pack and below" What does that mean, that say if you get the top $375 pre-order pack, you won't get all the cosmetics in the following months, only the "entitlement" to purchase future cosmetics as, "add-ons"? lol
sharp hare
Whiskiz it means that next month there will be a new cosmetic and you will be entitled to BUY them separately with a price ranging between 5-25 dollars.
But you can buy items equal to what are included in your current package and below it
jagged notch
so the only real point to buying bigger packs is for that specific months cosmetics and the ability to purchase more at that same level in other months. yeah not worth. cheers.
sharp hare
Yes correct. Well there is always some other benefits in the package + a way to support the game but mainly i would say yes.
jagged notch
dislike the idea of spending the most money on the biggest pack, for the "entitlement" to have to spend even more on the special cosmetics in later months.
could just be me
sharp hare
Well its voluntary and you dont lose / gain anything over anyone exept the bragging rights so dont worry about it 🙂
spice hornet
jagged notch
ofc its voluntary, just a little iffy. cheers
its cool, they're doing like 98% right, i can handle questionable pre-order and questionable multi boxing opinions :p
steady ocean
Remember you can always discuss the various packs in #aoc-discussion 🙂
jagged notch
all i know is if you buy the biggest pack, $375 worth, that it shouldnt just entitle you to spend more for future pre order goodies. you should get them all. not just a specific month of flavor, in a game still a couple years away
but im not lead haha and the lead is a fellow gamer that seems to know what hes doing in almost all aspets so up to him
cant have it all
pliant ocean
At the end of the day, Intrepid is still a business. They need to make money to continue doing what they are doing. And those willing to support the creative process early, get special little perks like exclusive skins and testing privileges. 🤷♂️
jagged notch
i disagree, the project is already fully funded
crystal beacon
i know we should go to discussion but, steven often said he doesnt need the money
jagged notch
that line usually fits, but not here
winter field
so for $375 you want alpha/beta access / $125 in embers / 9 months in game time / armor,accessory,pet,freehold,caravan cosmetics and all the cosmetics until it launches
sharp hare
Whis that is uncorrect
winter field
jesus
jagged notch
all i was saying was extra was the cosmetics. that list tries to make it seem worse than it is
quite reasonable imo
errant chasm
wait u only get the cosmetics in this pack and the 1's u pay for in future packs @winter field
steady ocean
@jagged notch This isn't a discussion channel, and the packs are not for cosmetics. The cosmetics are extras. Please take discussions to #aoc-discussion
jagged notch
kk
sharp hare
@errant chasm yes
jagged notch
apparently
sturdy crater
as far as i know,the game isnt region locked,so i guess testers can play on their servers around the globe,its just at release they will launch with EU/NA and then attept to launch SEA/OCE in later days
jagged notch
buying the pack gives you the, entitelment, to purchase the future cosmetics. On top. Lol
crystal beacon
ah rigth this is my question too: where will the alpha be located in
errant chasm
correct @jagged notch
sharp hare
North west corner if i recall @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
for all of the globe?
sharp hare
Was it only 20% of the map available for alpha let me check
crystal beacon
eu to nort west us would be 250+ ping
you kinda misunderstood i think xd
i mean for all people on the globe
errant chasm
eu to na is sub 140 ping from norway atleast
brittle stump
When does Braver of worlds get start ?
sharp hare
Ah, no idea about that sorry, havent seen any info about separation players into different testing servers depending on their region so i would assume all play on the same servers
bleak sinew
@brittle stump BoW start during Alpha 1 but it will not be the announced August test, that is for Leader of Men and higher packages. But BoW should be in sometime soon
brittle stump
Was hoping it would be aug.
desert ivy
@brittle stump Well BoW would be after LoM but before Intrepid pack holders, so I'd say probably like September or October
Nah, Leader of Men are august
nimble tartan
potent thunderBOT
slim bluff
I may have misunderstood this but is it confirmed that SEA/OCE arent launching at the same time as NA/EU?
sturdy crater
its nice to see the community managers talk to us * - *
plucky pawn
We'll be updating that with the latest as we have it, and looking at it right now I can see an update we should make! 
passing it along to the team
crystal beacon
@plucky pawn i am sorry to ping you, but do you have further information on the test server location, and if there will be seperate servers
brittle stump
👍
desert ivy
@slim bluff The SEA/OCE servers will be there at release, just like EU/NA
slim bluff
Okay thanks!
desert ivy
There won't be a OCE/SEA server during the alphas though
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon for our recent testing it's been hosted on NA servers, but we'll give you a heads up on where you'll be connecting and the like when we send you test instructions!
nimble tartan
when can lom expect further intstructions? :x3
sturdy crater
question : is the whole map (all continents) gonna b available on release? and also,is the whole map gonna b enough for future updates? lets say people explore all the map in a whole month,and they get bored
desert ivy
Yes the whole map will be available at release
I mean the map is pretty damn big
it's 480km^2 for the overworld and 100km^2 for the underrealm
dusty acorn
its a 480x480km map...that is essentially wilderness on release..
sharp hare
New content will be added to the game as Steven said so i would not be worried about getting bored on that
desert ivy
There will be quarterly big dlc releases as well
dusty acorn
itll take...year+ to fully upgade/explore the options across all servers
desert ivy
as well as monthly minor releases
sturdy crater
i understand that,i mean,future dlcs could be new maps or changes to the maps,who knows haha
pliant ocean
It takes multiple months to even farm a single tier 6 Metropolis.
sharp hare
I think that will be based on the amount of ppl contibuting to a node
icy niche
what are peoples view of addons, more specificly, addons for UI and extra ui elements?
pliant ocean
UI addons wont be needed. Steven has said they plan on making it so you can customize your UI in-game.
onyx knoll
@icy niche The Dev's view on addons is pretty simple: no addons 😛
icy niche
well ui customization is always going to be very personal and im one of the people running 5 different ui addons to get my UI the way i like it and deactivating sections i dont want or overlaps.
onyx knoll
Then I recommend you keep an eye on it and leave feedback to the devs as they work on the UI so that hopefully they take it into account and make a system that is versatile enough for everyone 🙂
icy niche
and i think addons are important to have for MMO's as it helps keep community invested
merry acorn
I can’t wait to hear more about siege combos
Like 8 bards playing a gaint FUCKING concert
merry acorn
@icy niche are you referring to dps meters?
icy niche
ofc if devs have everything needed its fine.
merry acorn
Or just add ons in general
onyx knoll
@icy niche Saddly Steven disagrees, and since it's his passion project I doubt addons will ever be officially added ^^ If you want to discuss it further I recommend moving over to #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion
icy niche
dps meters and ui addons mostly.
sharp hare
#aoc-discussion Please, try to keep this for Questions Answers and possibly related to one or another
icy niche
yep 😛
onyx knoll
then go change that by bringing a relevant subject to the table
shadow current
Give it a shot
worthy nova
one thing that I hope they have, that was done in archeage, is that camera view can be used to quickly maneuver your character.
for instance, when you swapped camera to view back you could than just turn around instantly and go the other way
for whatever reason most games function of this only flips the camera, but than if you go to move forward, your going in the direction you were previously facing
sonic spoke
i hear that in order to play on the beta i have to pay 75 $?
sharp hare
Yes
vivid slate
For Beta Two
sharp hare
Each package has a info table that shows what you will get
sonic spoke
where can i check the package?
desert ivy
Alpha 2 - $250
Beta 1 - $150
Beta 2 - $75
sharp hare
sonic spoke
cool thx
golden lintel
can i gift someone the beta ? if so how
sharp hare
If im correct spesific kickstarter packages included beta keys which you could gift.
Example
crimson flume
Is it possible to lock down a guild name?
fickle island
Not yet no, name reservation wont be out for a long while. They have said they plan to have some type of name/guild reservation though.
sharp hare
tranquil iris
For Beta Two
@vivid slate how does beta 2 work? I was looking into this and I feel dumb for not finding a definitive answer, are they currently in beta 2? Meaning if I purchase now I would have access to it? Or is this a timed beta where they open the servers on select dates for those 75$ backers ? Thank you for any info!
sharp hare
Now is pre alpha 1, no acces, then is alpha 1 acces for kickstarters/summerbackers, then is Alpha 2 for spesific package owners
onyx knoll
@crimson flume guild name reservation was a high tier kickstarter backer reward, you can't get it anymore. You could try to find someone that has it and can reserve for you
tranquil iris
Thank you @sharp hare
tranquil iris
I’ve been dying for this game for so long I was just like alright if I can get into this game now for under 150$ I’m just gonna throw the money at it haha
sharp hare
This is more of a discussion but ive upgraded from 150-250 because of alpha 2, betas will be most likely really short IMO so persistent Alpha 2 was more worth for me
Current info on what you can expect from beta
and Alpha
tall beacon
Has there been any discussion on the difference between, for example. A primary bard secondary fighter and a primary fighter secondary bard, would they not augment the same?
sharp hare
As far as i know augument will differ even if its same combo reversed, the calss name is different aswell
rich kraken
Any updates for non us players? And then i mean in getting the packs since my.com hasnt been working for a while
tall beacon
Gotcha
sharp hare
Example hypothesis Beastmaster vs Falconer both include same classes but totally different auguments based on speculation from the name ^_^ best i can offer you
desert ivy
Augments are based on the secondary class
If you are a Fighter + Mage, all your skills will be from the Fighter class but you will augment based on the Mage. For example, fighters Charge can be enhanced by the Mages teleportation augment tree to instantly teleport to the target
sage widget
any idea what it would look like if say your primary class was mage and then your secondary was also mage (Arch Mage Class) would your Primary skills just be much stronger?
or would you possibly get some different spells all together?
desert ivy
No, your secondary archetype doesn't give you different skills, just changes the effects of the primary archetypes skills
mystic rose
So name reservations are an option on the big pack, is their a way to do that atm?
or is it not released yet
desert ivy
No, not released
When it is, it will be based on your package tier. So Kickstarter backers > Summer backers > Intrepid pack holders > Voyager pack holders
mystic rose
dope, ty sir
sharp hare
mystic rose
isnt alpha 1 over?
mystic rose
oh im thinking alpha 0
desert ivy
Yeah, Alpha 0 ended over 2 years ago
sharp hare
In YT there is wrongly* named video that is written as " Alpha 1 gameplay" but it is actually for Apocalypse which might confuse some people
mystic rose
@sharp hare you get that pic from a wiki? can you link it please?
sharp hare
desert ivy
Yeah, originally Apocalypse was technically classed as Alpha 1 - Phase 1, but that was changed. That's why the Apoc vid is named as Alpha 1
sharp hare
cntr + F : Reservation
mystic notch
Don’t we have a alpha 1 phase still this summer?
mystic rose
thanks for the help friends, have a great night ima read through this
sharp hare
There are multiple phases of Alpha 1
desert ivy
Technically what the PI holders tested in May and the LoM will test this month is pre-alpha, basically alpha 0.9
sharp hare
Last one is for kickstarter/summer backers if i understood correctly
fossil hill
i currently own alpha stage 2 how do i upgrade to A1?
desert ivy
Unless you're a kickstarter backer, you can't
fossil hill
ah k
fossil hill
ty
Also is there a application Area on the forums to Work as a GM or in the Social Spotlight As like HR or of the Sort.
sharp hare
@fossil hill I personally dont have info on that but i assume they will have "hiring" at some point for spesific jobs they are lacking ppl of. Half of the current playerbase would give their half leg to get a job from them 😂
rigid rose
@fossil hill Hey To All You Supporters of Ashes of Creation.... One HUGE thing you can do right now to show your Support is to use All of your Social Media access and link https://intrepidstudios.com/careers And get the word out as far as possible that Intrepid (AoC) is Hiring!!! 
desert ivy
You'd need to actually apply to work at Intrepid to work as a GM
It's not just a community position
fossil hill
thanks Fuppo
rigid rose
@fossil hill you can apply for any position listed or not listed ... 🙂... might be early for GM spots !! Good luck
rigid rose
U r welcome 🙂
crystal beacon
anyone know how long it might take to get an error in billing fixed? all i've heard so far is that they have a high volume of tickets but this is my money we're talking about 😑
sharp hare
Sadly only a person who has experienced same issue can give you estimate based on his experienced time :/
crystal beacon
yeahhh
got double charged when upgrading my kickstarter package. hopefully they contact me by end of week
crystal beacon
I don't mind waiting so much, but I worry it could be more problematic as more time passes
plucky pawn
as long as you request it from us ASAP, even if we don't get to you right away due to ticket volume, you're good
(as mentioned, we've got quite a higher volume of tickets than usual at the moment!)
crystal beacon
Oh hi! 👍
I put in the support ticket as soon as I saw that both charged had posted
Thanks, appreciate the response
plucky pawn
perfect, we'll take a look when we get a chance and get you sorted out!
raw gyro
curious, all these items that are in the shop. any idea of they'll be available later? for instance the stuff from the 'might of the murk' that is due to expire tomorrow morning, will those be gone forever?
reef fiber
Hey guys how do i get my Braver of Worlds forum badge?
sharp hare
Yes - will be gone forever
upper pasture
curious, all these items that are in the shop. any idea of they'll be available later? for instance the stuff from the 'might of the murk' that is due to expire tomorrow morning, will those be gone forever?
@raw gyro
Nope, they will have in game variations.
raw gyro
oh i can live with that. rotten time for exclusive/forver sales, considering state of things and all
glad theirs gonna be a variant later. thanks
upper pasture
oh i can live with that. rotten time for exclusive/forver sales, considering state of things and all
@raw gyro
its supposed to show off who supported before the game came out. Like a badge of honor
raw gyro
i understand the ideal of it, yes
brittle ferry
@reef fiber if you haven't had it updated after 72 hours and relog then submit a support ticket
They are kinda backed up so it might take a few days
reef fiber
Alright thank you, but updated since when? Today? I backed back in july 2017
brittle ferry
Oh I thought perhaps you upgraded, if that's the case then submit a support ticket
Simply requesting BoW badge
reef fiber
Okay thank you. kind of related, are there 2 different forums for Ashes? I changed myu forum display name on my account page but it hasn't updated on the forums im on
brittle ferry
Well you have your intrepid login for things like the store and you have the same that should get you to the forums?
reef fiber
Yes I am logged into the forums
brittle ferry
If you did the name change for the forums recently I believe that can also take up to 72 hours/relogs
reef fiber
Noted, thank you for your time
olive timber
Hey is there any info out on guild bonuses? I've read that guilds will get to choose between membership size upgrades and other bonuses.
That there are some augments that will be come from guilds, but haven't seen any specifics.
dark jungle
All we know is here @olive timber https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guilds#Guild_benefits
brittle ferry
Lex is speedy
crimson flume
Yo so with the beta and alpha how does it work will people be able to keep their progress or will it be a fresh wipe for start?
azure knot
full wipe before live
past vortex
I don't know a single example of a game that DIDN'T do a wipe before release.
slim dagger
past vortex
🤔
sterile gulch
Just joined the server after following for a few weeks, I really like the dark allegiances cosmetic pack, is that still up for purchase or did I miss the boat on those?
earnest knoll
You missed it @sterile gulch
sterile gulch
F
earnest knoll
They change every month, if you own a pack you can purchase the cosmetics from your tier in future months though
sterile gulch
Yeah, I just wish I could purchase backwards 😦
crimson flume
Is there any chance ashes is released by the end of this year?
dull ruin
no
earnest knoll
@crimson flume alpha 1 will be happening roughly at the end of this year, I wouldnt put release until at the earliest end of next, even that is being super optimistic
crystal beacon
Do we know when we will have more information on the Nodes and their metro superpowers
desert ivy
Probably closer to alpha 2 since that's when they'll be fully implemented
crystal beacon
Darn it.
steep turtle
Is there a way I can buy the kickstarter bundle still
surreal elk
@steep turtle no
steep turtle
Damn it
sudden knot
i saw on the biggest pack in the store that you can reserve your name how the heck does that work???
earnest knoll
@sudden knot closer to either launch or alpha pack holders will most likely be able to log into their intrepid acc to reserve a name for launch, that way you cant have your name taken in the first hour of release
sudden knot
oh ok thanks bro
earnest cliff
Aside from animals dropping the "notes" or whatever for pelts and ect, has there been any mention of not having any mobs dropping resources that would otherwise only be obtainable through gathering? Would hate to see gathering get devalued by pvm
steady ocean
@earnest cliff animals will drop pelts, not certificates. Things that a mob should drop, it probably will. Like an enemy warrior NPC would likely have a chance at dropping gear, but a bear would drop meat/hide/bones
torpid tangle
prayer level farming 
burying bones 
steady ocean
Runescape 4 confirmed
pliant ocean
There will be some burying of bones all right. 
crystal beacon
Can we please display fish that we catch in aquariums in our freehold?
proven root
imagine going fishing and seeing every single fish you caught in your boat. switching profession if that happens
lyric glade
nodes are going to get appearance in order wich race is most inside the node, right?
Did developers said how they will control race population inside the nodes?
Because what i see is chaos and random appearence everytime
i didn't heard any mechanics that can regulate race population inside the regions, so there will be all races everywhere or every node is going to look the same becuase 1 race have much more players then others(Like blood elfs inside the horde in wow for an example)
ruby swift
It is not how many of a race are in a node, but which race contributed the most towards the leveling of that node. There could be 100 dwarves sitting on their thumbs not doing anything, but if 50 elves contribute more, at the next "pop" the buildings will all have an elvish aesthetic.
past vortex
Will we have to do the "inventory tetris" or every item occupies exactly one cell ?
ruby swift
Inventory and other decisions concerning volume and weight the official answer a month ago is "we are working on it" So no decision yet.
past vortex
ok, ty
lyric glade
@ruby swift even if "wich race is most contributed" the problem is still same
ruby swift
There is no region locking of races. If that answers your question.
lyric glade
without some i dont know region benefits for races may be any node will be random
ruby swift
Node development is entirely player driven. If the players on a server decide that Dwarves are the best and everyone rolls Dwarves, that is on them.
lyric glade
so we will have all nodes with dwarf forts if there would be something like what u said?
frigid edge
So if there are 8 classes and 8 subclasses. Plus 4 augments per class to choose from. (8x8=64) (8x4=32) (64+32 = 96) 96 total choices in the vertical progression? (not including all the other progressions) Can someone smarter than me confirm or deny this please.
lyric glade
@frigid edge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
64 classes + some helpful things called augments, something like talents in wow
i think
ruby swift
The four augments per class may also be supplemented by racial, religious, social organization, and other augments. We will not see the actual system in operation till A2. No use worrying now. Any theorycrafting is bound to be wrong.
ruby swift
Except for the starting areas. There are no race "regions" There may be points of interest in the world that reflect certain races from before the Fall, like one of the PVP Castles (which are appearance locked) being Dwarven. But as to the architecture of a node that is entirely driven by which race contributes the most.
lyric glade
ok ty for an answer
i hope players will not fuck it up
ornate flint
Do we know if there are racial passives?
ruby swift
robust marsh
Correct me where I'm wrong but did I just read that email correctly? Are intrepid pack holders going in!?
cerulean atlas
pack holders?
robust marsh
backers
cerulean atlas
what do you mean by going in then?
raw gyro
Aight, question time! Is their going to be marriage in the game? If so, would the marriage be inter species(orc-dwarf, elf-human, etc)?
robust marsh
Getting access to Alpha 1.
cerulean atlas
ahhh
@raw gyro yes, there will be marriage in game
I don't think it matters who you marry tho
ruby swift
There are no racial or gender locks on marriage.
raw gyro
@cerulean atlas @ruby swift awesome! also no gender lock, double awesome!
craggy harness
can we have intercourse when married
ruby swift
@robust marsh PI members have already been testing the client, and LoM are in the process of being added for August testing. Depending on those results the BoW will be added next. And then the final addition of the Intrepid Package holders that bought the $500 package before that access was closed with no NDA.
robust marsh
@ruby swift Oh ok the email reads so weird.
But it does mention intrepid holders
Late fall 2020 with braver of worlds and intrepid holders
lyric glade
@raw gyro wanna marry 2 female bearded dwarfs?
ruby swift
Anyone with a package is an Intrepid holder. "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others." - Snowball
raw gyro
oh do the female dwarves get to have beards?!
robust marsh
I think the "intrepid pack" was the $500 one.
ruby swift
Yep, I played one in the May test. Little thicc shortie with a goatee.
past vortex
@raw gyro reminds me this: https://imgur.com/DiAG3ce
ruby swift
Nikua females do not get beards.
raw gyro
wow thats really lame. gonna look into this and see if theirs a legit good reason for this
lyric glade
nah its good
ruby swift
Why nikua females don't have beards? It was environmental evolution over the thousands of year spent on Sanctus when they were plopped down on the islands and had to adapt to being beach dwarves out in the sun all day.
raw gyro
looking at the wiki it states the beards are for the dunir and not the nikua. it doesn't state the male or female would be without the beard. listening to the livestream right now to see for details on this
ruby swift
We have had varying lore numbers thrown around as to how long ago the Fall was and they arrived on Sanctus and the races began to split. I go with 10k from an early article. Imagine what 10k years will do to an isolated populations evolution.
@raw gyro Good luck in your info quest. It was clearly stated multiple times that Nikua females will not have beards. The truth is out there!
raw gyro
haha i honestly just thought of this 2 mins before asking y'all here.
lyric glade
how about 2 beards for dunir male dwarfs?
ruby swift
They just posted the Nikua concept art piece to Twitter again. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6gVuyI6vEtrjdnf8-1hk5uZvh-JhVqlSMxB2_vNnisc/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/EenbM2IXoAI-6bB.png%3Alarge?width=1525&height=858
raw gyro
i will say im sad no beards for female nikua, but i'm glad to see dwarves not in a mountain living
faint plover
What kind of races style wasnt in cosmetics yet?
craggy harness
What customization options are there? E.g height sliders, weight sliders, chest sliders
lyric glade
@craggy harness https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Character_creator
lapis basin
Question about the flying mounts. I know you need to have royal status to get one but, if you are no longer mayor or whatever, do you lose the mount?
lyric glade
yes
and common player can have fly mounts too as i know
but it would be so rare that only ~10 players would have them
strong drum
They will also be able to be gained from rare drops but have a life span
lyric glade
ye
strong drum
so everone has the chance but the reality is no more than about 10 will have one at any one time is the thoughts
lapis basin
Ahhh... Okay so there is a way to get it if you do PvE and don't feel like going into politics. Okay.
strong drum
Yes but its very rare apprantly
lapis basin
I'm okay with rarity. I honestly prefer not seeing an army of griffons everywhere. I just wanted to be sure it didn't require me to go kissing babies to get one if I do want to try it out.
strong drum
You wont NEED to be a mayor to have a chance
but its not going to be easy to get the drop and it will only last a certain time depending on your animal husbandry skill
lyric glade
lapis basin
I'm okay with that. Still can't wait to play.
reef osprey
they are name "royal mounts".
It doesn't mean you have to be a royal to get them from world bosses
strong drum
Its likely they wont have much effect unless you plan some content specifically made easier by a flying mount otherwise its juts a fun and status thing - the mayoral or node leader ones will be expected to use their abilities in battle etc
lyric glade
"aslo dropped by legendary world bosses"
im more excited about t2 glide mounts
they can be pretty fun but it depends on landscape
strong drum
I notice none of the cosmetic packs have weapon skins - will they be in the game or does it make more sense to wait for those as you dont know what weapons will be in the final addition
reef osprey
no information on weapon skins
strong drum
aight
lyric glade
something about legendary weapon skins were said in some of last interview but i can be wrong
strong drum
i think that was reference to the legendary cosmetics in game will be more prestigeous than the shop bought ones
but i could be wrong also
reef osprey
nah, that's correct
lyric glade
ye right
reef osprey
they didn't specify what type of skins there will be.
but in the past they mentioned, that there will be at least the same quality skins in game (through long tedious/hard achievements in game) as you'd find in the cashshop
strong drum
earned ones feel the best anyways
strong drum
i think the word you're looking for is comical cosmetics
strong drum
that may be a waste of devs time and effort haha
reef osprey
don't expect to run around with a giant duck head or similar stupidities, they want to prevent the phantasy setting from being destroyed by things like that
strong drum
yeah that would ruin the immersion of the world i think
lyric glade
i want duck hat but with i in duck word
strong drum
but a jester costume would be appropriate if you want stupid
reef osprey
jester would be fine
crystal beacon
Hope not many have that teady bear mount skin then
strong drum
a bard with a jester cosmetic would fit nicely
lyric glade
why not rogue?
strong drum
or rogue
reef osprey
i think the princess wagon and the swan boat will be "stupid" as they go
strong drum
jesters however typically sung songs for kings and not threw knives at them i imagine 😛
lyric glade
are you talking about wow?
reef osprey
nah, the pack cosmetics they sold in the past
lyric glade
didnt saw
strong drum
lol i totally missed those - they sound stupid as
lyric glade
link?
knotty dew
can't wait to be a bounty hunter and glide to someone's help against a corrupt player with my tier 2 gliding mount while blasting this on full volume
strong drum
better live in a military node then
lyric glade
and then u get rekt with that guy u tryed to help
strong drum
yeah people need to consider the type of people willing to gank on go corrupted are probably pure pvpers and wont be easy take downs - theyll gank so you bounty hunters come and they have a challenge - i know i will
lyric glade
wait its questions channel, would be better if we go to discussion ch
reef osprey
sorry to say that, but the amount of player you will find trying to kill someone will be minimal @knotty dew
Most will just run away from greens, trying to get rid of their corruption while greens use them as their training dummy
as red's can't defend themselves against green without accruing more corruption
lyric glade
Well there is much to implement so we dont really know how it would be
reef osprey
@lyric glade we know exactly how it currently is planned to be
by statement refers to that status quo
strong drum
I have a question - sea pvp in a raid type ship the galleon - will i need to have players to man the weapons or will it be able to be npc manned?
reef osprey
@strong drum considering, that its inspired by archeage
i'd assume it will be players (very likely)
lyric glade
We know, but still it can be changed in any time if it looks not good enough
reef osprey
@lyric glade fair enough;
but you gotta point out the flaws, that's what the feedback is for
strong drum
Thats likely and fairer i guess - i still would like to sail my galleon solo with full gun power though rofl
but then i would be more prone to griefing anything on the sea
reef osprey
its not griefing, its content 🙂
strong drum
i wonder how sinking someones ship works corruption wise
does it leave the players out there to swim home or what lol
reef osprey
@strong drum you can't resummon a ship in the open water, you gotta be at the coast for that
probably what sea-mounts are for
or people that are on the boat, the moment it breaks, die as well
versed hollow
@strong drum a Quote from Steven - "Sailing will be pretty in-depth and it's going to be based on the size of the ship that you're using. So there will be components for seamanship that other players you will need to have on board if you want to operate a vessel to the best of it's abilities: Let's say in combat or traversing just the world."
strong drum
yeah so will that give me 4x corruption
ah ok that makes sense
more lifelike approach
reef osprey
if you random attack someone, probably
but you kind of want to focus your pirating efforts on trade routes anyway
which should be fair game
strong drum
Yeah for my main focus ill be a pirate so i want to figure out the best way toi go about it and how big my team has gotta be
prime gust
so... i just found this and is there anyway to begin playing or can no one play
humble mountain
Hello everyone, I have a question : Is there going to be a " groupspell " option for every main class? I heard about 8 summoners to be able to create siege golem or something, will there be options such as 8 hunters with barrage on the leaders placed location?, or 8 warriors berserk battlecry?or 8 tanks shieldwall that blocks projectiles ?Or 8 mages creating a lightning storm area effect? Or 8 rogue aoe invisibility ? Or 8 clerics " holy nova" explosion? Or 8 bards huge aoe buff for everyone in a range? If this is a wrong place to put ideas, tell me 😊
reef osprey
@humble mountain not confirmed,
there might be, there might not be
versed hollow
@humble mountain As far as we know, it;s not confirmed
sly monolith
alpha 2 are 24h servers right?
reef osprey
@prime gust the game releases in like 2 years (maybe more)
the earliest you can play is through acquiring a Pre-Order pack, which would make you elligible to start playing in the Alpha 2
which i'd expect somewhere in the second half of next year.
starting fall this year, pack holders of alpha 1 packs can livestream the game, in case that interests you
@sly monolith ai
versed hollow
@sly monolith yes
crystal beacon
prime gust
Ah i see, will there be a rollback when it's full release?(All data gets wiped and starts from 0)
frozen tartan
yep
sly monolith
ye dont care about that tho
versed hollow
@prime gust on release there will be a full wipe, and those who have headstarts will NOT be able to level up nodes untill everyone else gets in
strong drum
advantages to pre order will be first hand experience on the systems and ability to provide feedback - it will give you the edge launch day but is not required by anyone if they arent sure on the game yet
versed hollow
I would say that anyone that just wants to play the game, just get it on release and watch people livestream/make videos before then
prime gust
yea, that's about what I know. I'll probably start at beta 2. thanks for the info. cheers
storm veldt
Hello, is anywhere a bit more info on tanking? I read through wiki and there is just a list of 3 build paths (evasion, control, shield) - I ask because the best tank build is always to stack assured damage mitigation - if available while doing just enough threat with highest possible hp to prevent spike dmg (when for example 2mobs use ability at the same time etc) - this also dictates the dynamic with healers - so any info out there beside the wiki? 😄
reef osprey
nope, you gotta wait till alpha 2 for in-depth class information that will be relevant for release @storm veldt
essentially: come back in a year for that
storm veldt
That would be quite late imo - this is core game mechanic and the trio philosophy
peak sapphire
So looking through the Wiki, I noticed backpacks, will they be a physical thing that you have show on your character?
clever narwhal
Alpha-2 is when they said they're testing core class mechanics. Keep in mind Alpha-2 isn't Beta-2
ruby swift
There are no public time estimates for how long testing phases will last. Please don't give people timelines. Anyone that tells you anything beyond A1 is starting this fall is guessing.
No, A2 is when the augment system comes online. A1 has various systems and mechanics that are being tested. Tank is one of the first classes that was put in A1.
storm veldt
Oh right I forgot that ashes have multiple alpha phases 😄 - used to just 1 alpha 1beta 😄
cool
ruby swift
@peak sapphire There will be various backpacks and like the belts will display on your character. They can be customized with cosmetics also.
strong drum
i wonder if cloak will cover it or not
clever narwhal
So uhhh Can anyone explain to me why I have 2 different "active" referral links/codes?
peak sapphire
nice
ruby swift
Most things like helmets have a toggle.
strong drum
1337
ruby swift
@clever narwhal Nope, that would be a ticket issue if it isn't in the FAQ on main website.
clever narwhal
Ah okay
ruby swift
Current wait time is around a week as they work through the backlog.
strong drum
Is there a page that shows me what referral bonus are?
grizzled latch
Its a % for now
ruby swift
main willow
1- There will be some mobile app that you need to have to be able to play AoC at 100%? Or it will be an extra if it is the case, where you can have it and do simple task or just do it in game.
2- Other question, about translations. I'm from Spain, and i prefer to get it in spanish instead of english, but i really don't care. But for a lot of people from South America and Spain it would be better for multiple reasons. I know you look for a big comunity to start growing and make visibility of spanish people wanting to play it (when i say spanish I mean SouthAmerican & Spanish, also mexican, etc..).
Did you think about make location teams in different countries made of fans or let the community contribute with some translations? (I would be happy to work making the translation to spanish if it's possible when i get the Beta)
3 - Also, in game, there will be cinematics? This will be subbed? Or Dub? I think it should be just sub, that will reduce costs and the original language for a cinematic is almost always better than a cheap dub. When I mean dub, i mean in French, german or other languages you have now in the scope.
ruby swift
- Extra, will help you manage crops and other small tasks while away from your computer.
- Spanish localization is looking to be added after launch and may be the first extra region added. But no timeline has been given.
- There will be very limited cinematics and voiceover work done. It is a huge cost and not currently budgeted for.
main willow
Thx
heavy sage
Is there a maximum ammount of alpha 2, beta 1 etc packages being sold? Looking to buy Alpha 2 but would rather wait couple months.
ruby swift
They have said they will give plenty of notice before changing testing access.
frozen tartan
Not that we know of. They'll let us know a bit before they stop selling alpha 2
storm veldt
So if I buy alpha 2 i can then test it? or how does it work
frozen tartan
Alpha 1 will go until end of year, or maybe early next year. Alpha 2 will come after that, but we don't know when exactly
heavy sage
Ok, good got some extra time to prep my wife for me buying 350 euro game
earnest knoll
This guy gets it ^
Do we have any idea when the dev blogs for the other 2 node types will be out?
Keen to see whats planned for them
ruby swift
They will be out when the final details are given to MK from Design that she is waiting on. Then she will make it all shiny and give us presents.
earnest knoll
Hell yea
storm veldt
How far off is the next alpha release? I know it should be during this year, but was there any estimation on in which month?
ruby swift
That is the official word
storm veldt
thanks
ruby swift
The next testing phases announced will be testing in Aug with Leader of Men and above tier backers. Leading up to the general release of Alpha 1
tranquil flame
how is the targeting in AoC? free or tab?
exotic berry
Mixed
tranquil flame
like gw2?
inland crater
never played that so not sure, but youll have the option to lean more towards tab or action
but never fully one or the other
crystal beacon
how does the pre-ordering go for EU people?
frozen tartan
boreal abyss
if you purchase my.com, you will have to wait until you can separately buy cosmetics
as they do not have that function atm
high whale
I would definitely do the official website
versed hollow
@crystal beacon You currently cannot pre-order through my.games, just get it through intrepid and you will be able to transfer your account when the time comes
crystal beacon
@versed hollow Dunno how that s gonna work if i have an account on both sites with the same email
versed hollow
I'm sure contacting support will be able to sort it out
dark valve
so if you buy early access you don't have to pay a sub fee on top of that, do you?
wild marsh
@dark valve Unless you have the Braver of Worlds and above as a kickstarter purchase you will still need to pay a sub fee. However some of the packs you can buy will give you some months to play for free.
dark valve
so you pay a subfee for the early access ? @wild marsh
wild marsh
Your game time doesn't count in early access if that's what you're asking.
crystal beacon
Im going to make a corrupted rogue 😄
wild marsh
@crystal beacon non questions and answers should go into either #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion
crystal beacon
okey
dark valve
nah like I'm asking if there's a boxcost for early access only because I know there will be a subfee when the game launches
crystal beacon
but its dead there, nobody is typing @wild marsh
wild marsh
@dark valve Yeah, you pretty much pay to have access to EA, so I guess it would be considered a boxcost. But once you buy a pack with EA you don't have to pay an extra subfee for time in game during that EA.
dark valve
so there's a boxcost for EA and no added subfee, that's what I'm getting from this
which makes sense 👍
stiff lotus
Basically they cannot have everyone testing, so they put the EA behind a paywall
dark valve
ye
stiff lotus
but you'll get your moneys worth in ingame items and gametime for the liver server, whenever that is.
stiff lotus
Those Items you buy in the package are for the live server, it is unlikely you'll have them for the testing phases
dark valve
items that I buy in the pachage? what do you mean exactly?
proper night
dark valve
ah so collector stuff, I got you.
proper night
thats how you get early access through the pre order packs. Included in them are cosmetic items. thats what hes referring to 🙂
stiff lotus
basically, yep
crystal beacon
So,is there anyone from EU in Alpha 1?
clever narwhal
Speaking of the pre order packs it says you can get any cosmetics that come out after you buy a pack, but do we know if there is a way to get something we missed or if anything similar will be added in the game that you can earn?
wild marsh
@clever narwhal Once you miss something it's gone. There might be something similar, but it won't be the exact same thing, maybe a recolor or something of it.
clever narwhal
I know WoW ran into a lot of hate when they added cool and unique mounts in the real money shop then the mounts you could get in-game were mostly different flavours of the same one
Okay
wild marsh
@clever narwhal They haven't said they were going to do recolors or anything so that's personal speculation, keep that in mind.
proper night
however they have said/word is there will most likely be re colours of the cosmetics avaible in game.
right. yer xyphien is correct. its speculation.
dark valve
and so there's no other way to get access to the game other than buying packs from their store ?
stiff lotus
to access early testing phases, to put it simple, no.
wild marsh
@dark valve After the game is released you'll be able to play it for $15 /mo without paying for any packs right now. But the packs will allow you to play early, as well as help fund the development even more.
wild marsh
I'm guessing around 2022 off of current progress but that's just my guess.