@idle siren hopefully all these pings are ok 🙂 will there be flavor based languages? like how the races in wow have human/orcish and then a racial language like elven
#questions
long eagle
trim moon
@steady ocean Most games you just get a fish, and that's it. Just like in mining or lumberjacking
steady ocean
Frognars 🐸
silk fractal
is there more info on how the threshold for corruption will be, for instance if a group of greens are in the best room in a dungeon and I get the 4 kills, am I in fear of losing gear that I worked for years to get if I die? @idle siren
slim dagger
What are the chances of me designing a weapon named after me, and it being in the game 
idle siren
@gaunt vortex fishing will be lucrative if done well
crystal beacon
PoE legendary buy in system huehuehue
main raptor
@idle siren will fishing be sort of passive like bdo/wow or will there be a pokemon style minigame like in AA or are you not sure yet/unable to say?
idle siren
@long eagle there are language specific lexicons in the game from a lore and immersion standpoint. They do not however have real player to player implications
winged knot
@idle siren will fishing be similar to AA?
tardy mortar
@glad oak, also, do you need any DevOps lead engineers with Ansible, Nix, k8s, and pub/sub systems engineering? Also a Sr. Software Engineer, and would you consider remote from Florida? lol (I was eyeing your careers page earlier today)
winged knot
mechanic wise
bold mulch
@idle siren would you consider the game to have 64 classes or you dont really count the augments as seperate classes ?
idle siren
@main raptor lake/coastal fishing will be less interactive. Deep sea fishing will have specific player mini game requirements, and equipment.
oak depot
@idle siren can I ask a crafting question - Does item deconstruction guarantee obtaining the recipe to reconstruct that item or is it RNG based? And can "all" items be deconstructed regardless of rarity?
idle siren
@bold mulch 64
main raptor
@idle siren that is fantastic, thankyou so much
hollow veldt
I have never been so excited to fish
past pewter
@idle siren is rogue going to have a perma-stealth that breaks upon entering combat?
serene valley
@idle siren Do you miss the white order? XD good to see you again firend
strong drum
guys slow down on the questions haha
idle siren
Ok. Sorry gotta run! ❤️
desert ivy
Rogues don't have true stealth
mystic notch
@idle siren will there be any events that affect the entire server?
mild bluff
@idle siren is this a good idea of what combat looks like (vid from BR) https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/hz2oy3/i_am_gonna_be_brave_and_reupload_an_example_of/
desert ivy
Its more of a visible invisibility
steady ocean
Alright folks, lets bring the questions back to community focused
desert ivy
We don't know we just know that you can still see rogues stealth
steady ocean
as in the community answers
limber girder
@idle siren In the wiki I saw that private taverns were listed under the processing artisan class. Does this mean that in order to run a tavern in your freehold you may need to master processing?
desert ivy
Its not supposed to be like wow where its straight up invisibility
timid snow
I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED
stray wyvern
@strong drum so even if I have rogue augmentations and decide to max out my skill points on damaging ablities and such I'll still be bullied into being a main healer?
twin basin
back to community speculation chat
green pagoda
Does anyone here know how to achieve ground mounts? Will u have to tame them with a husbandry skill? Or will it be achievable through drops?
civic rampart
sounds like rogue stealth will be a lot like infitraitor stealth in planetside 2, you can see them if you know what to look for, but still hard to spot
past pewter
interesting
sick sage
Will you be able to build your race culture(different style)in another race nodes.
steady ocean
@limber girder At taverns, you make food and serve drinks, I believe that is why it is considered processing as you process raw materials to serve
tardy mortar
Or have a good graphics card in planetside 2's case
civic rampart
Love popping up as an smg infil and drilling people down
timid tulip
lmfao steven was getting bombarded?
tulip hatch
Please keep this channel to questions and answers
Take discussion to the appropriate channels
Thank you
civic rampart
rgr
strong drum
@stray wyvern its likely that picking a cleric will limit your DPS potential no matter how many skill points you put into it - your main class will be healer if you pick cleric - rogue archetype will likely just make your dps a bit more effective and returns heals for it or something - i would suggest going rogue main then cleric
steady ocean
@green pagoda Early mounts will be obtained from an early quest in the starting area
junior pagoda
strong drum
@stray wyvern Also no one can bully you into doing anything but itsl likely that if you dont heal as a cleric youll find yourself struggling to find content groups or be effective at dps all together - Main a dps class if you dont like healing and pick cleric as archetype to allow yourself to potentially heal yourself more effectively
trim moon
@strong drum But cleric is gonna be the master of "life and death"
So is very very likely to have a viable spec of Death Cleric
not just with augments
civic rampart
There will most likely be cleric dps builds, but being the only healer specific class people will expect you to heal
strong drum
my apologies i didnt realise cleric was intended to swing both sides
being the only main healer class ye
desert ivy
Yea, clerics will be able to spec into damage if they want
stray wyvern
@strong drum thank you! the problem with switching them around is that the primary abilities of a cleric thematically fit the RP of an angel of death a lot more, being able to res, average HP of my party, have offensive abilities like "life bolt" and of course "staff combo" that I'm sure they're bound to make a scythe cosmetic for staves. It's a bummer that even with dps class augments and stat prioritization, I'm only useful as a main healer though. Seems like it defeats the purpose of giving me the choice to do it :/
strong drum
Then i suggest build how you want but dont que or advertise as a healer
woeful vector
Question on the Corruption System:
When mining a very valuable resource like finding a ore vein that requires long resource gathering time, it’s natural for players to be resource gatherers, who are also in a non-combative state, while mining.
It’s only natural a competing guild to try to ward people off that valuable resource to take it as their own and attack in the justification of competition and stopping other guilds from gaining a competitive advantage if that resource leads to better gear. However, if they were to attack a unsuspecting resource gatherer and potentially one shot them before they act, which is usually the case because the first person to be attacked is swarmed by a group of people ready to attack. Why is the attacking person being flagged as a corrupt, which is a system directed at griefers, when their intentions were purely based on healthy competition and the interest of their guild?
strong drum
@stray wyvern it seems i was wrong you can dps as cleric - just dont advertise or look for groups as a healer 🙂
desert ivy
Because they still attacked and killed a non combatant?
stray wyvern
@desert ivy may I ask how you know/able to speculate that clerics can spec dps? would love to read up on it cause I'm worried of leveling a cleric and not being able to do it 😒 thanks!
@strong drum thank you though!
desert ivy
Its been said multiple times in the past
steady ocean
@woeful vector If they want their guild's interests to be above another persons, then they will need to accept the consequences of killing non-combatants, aka corruption
runic crystal
Have all the Pantheon been announced? 5 are listed but thought there were 7 total.
strong drum
@stray wyvern you are welcome mate
steady ocean
@runic crystal There are 10 that has been discussed, 7 "good" and 3 "bad" https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore
runic crystal
@steady ocean Ah I see. I must look into it farther. Thanks!
steady ocean
it's based off of direct quotes from the devs, so pretty reliable
runic crystal
Believe its ran by the team
woeful vector
@steady ocean
But these consequences were implemented as a system to prevent griefing. I feel like PvP in the sake of healthy competition is what makes PvP great in MMO’s because you are tactically trying gain the upper hand against other guilds. Is that so wrong that I need to be flagged as corrupt, which was intended for griefers?
steady ocean
@woeful vector and pvp for the sake of pvp is built into the world via node & castle wars and sieges. Killing a random non-combatant is NOT in the spirit of the game as in it is not something that the devs want to encourage people to do. That being said, if you want to you can and accept the consequences
pulsar anvil
Will there be consequences to the death by pk of a mayor ?
steady ocean
@pulsar anvil assassination is not a thing if that is what you are asking. A mayor's death doesn't affect their role as far as I'm aware
dawn depot
They could make you an enemy of the state
desert ivy
@runic crystal @tardy mortar the wiki isn't run by Intrepid, it's run by @dark jungle and co but it is generally very accurate and gets constantly updated whenever new info comes in
woeful vector
@steady ocean
In the situation I wrote above, the people are not just random people, but a guild that is competing against your guild. I feel like the corruption system needs more finesse that can identify PVP grounded on healthy competition. Anyways thank you for answering my questions 👍
dark jungle
its actually just being updated with steven's new info from 5 minutes ago 
runic crystal
I see, I figured because I seen Steven say something about an hour ago and the wiki added it in like 5 min after
Yeah
steady ocean
@woeful vector Your guild can start a war on their guild, and it will flag you as combatants I believe, so there will be mechanics in place for that
tardy mortar
@desert ivy Okay ty. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just some randomly run source. i found it and was skeptical at first, but most of it seems legit based on all the interviews i have seen and heard.
@dark jungle TY LEX 🙂
undone magnet
Does anyone know if we have info how on easy islands will be able to access at launch? I know boats and swimming will exist but I doubt we will get a boat immediatly and swimming might have a fatigue mechanic or sharks in the water
neon rapids
Hey, I saw that there's editions of pre-orders/backings sold on kickstarter which allows one or two days of early access to the game on release... Is it still possible to gain access to that perk?
desert ivy
No
woeful vector
@steady ocean but that only happens when guild leaders are present and put to a majority vote which by then your competing guild has already gathered this valuable resource that leads to better gear which potentially tips the scales of the fight to their side if the war starts. Thank you for being patient with me, I just wish AoC to be perfect 😄
steady ocean
@undone magnet Probably not easy as both personal caravans and normal boats take boat parts to assemble, so it will take time for us to get to that stage of a node
desert ivy
Kiclstarter is no longer accessible unless you already bought a pack in 2017
undone magnet
Yeah I was mainly wondering if we knew how viable swimming to islands would be or if the devs are going to have mechanics that prevent that.
misty pollen
@neon rapids also they have said that the headstart is only going to be on a couple servers not all so you can avoid the headstart people if you want
heavy pier
Is killing over resources considered griefing? I feel griefing is purely motivated by distaste for a guild or person, there are community driven reprocussions for killing a person repeatidly without cause.
I speak with a voice of curiosity and nervousness for the curroption system, as a player that likes to pvp.
woeful vector
No I dont think it is but the Corruption System will flag you as one in its current state
arctic sky
@heavy pier single time to kill a non combatant isn't going to be a huge problem.. The more you do it the worse your penalty
If the person you are trying to kill smacks you back even once you won't gain corruption if you kill them
They will lose less if their resources if they fight back
So the non combatant has a choice... Just die and lose more resources to you just to give you corruption or fight back and drop less if you end up killing them
heavy pier
So.. as an attacker I can attack someone down to critical and bully them away from resources..
(if they dont fight back)
woeful vector
But they would gain more by flagging the attacker as a corrupted. I can see this exploited by handing over your items to a friend and you go there only with a pickaxe and and not attack back
arctic sky
@heavy pier there will also be a lot of different ways for meaningful pvp instead of just played griefing constantly. You can go after caravans if you want resources. They are pretty much walking pinatas pvp zones you opt in to
steady ocean
@woeful vector If a non-combatant dies they still gain experience debt. You should read up on corruption and player death. I think it will clear some of your issues with the system up @heavy pier https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_death
Remember this is not a discussion channel, please take discussion to #aoc-discussion
heavy pier
@arctic sky I'd like to tread a bit away from the word "griefin" and opt into a mindset of "organic pvp generated around resources". I'll take a read. Ty.
arctic sky
Beat me to the link@steady ocean
dense moss
Sorry if this has been answered a bunch already, but is there a time limit to purchasing any of the pre-order packs? Like will I be able to see Alpha 1/2 content and then decide to purchase Beta access, or do I need to do that earlier?
steady ocean
The devs will give us advance notice if they plan to remove the Alpha 2/Beta access from the pre-order packs. The next pre-order packs change on Aug 5th to the new cosmetics, so if you like the current cosmetics it may be a good idea to purchase before the 5th @dense moss
dense moss
Does purchasing the pre-order only get the cosmetics form that pack, or all the ones after as well? @steady ocean
steady ocean
@dense moss It unlocks whatever tier of pack and those below it. So if you bought the voyager plus pack ($375) it would unlock all of the cosmetics that are currently available. Additionally, once you purchase a pack, you can buy individual cosmetics at that tier or lower in the next pre-order cosmetic theme instead of needing to buy the entire pack
dense moss
Thank you!
undone magnet
Will variants of the mount/caravans skins sold in the cash shop/preorder also be obtainable through regular gameplay? Or is it is just the armor cosmetics?
steady ocean
The devs have said reskins are possible. We don't know to what extent though
desert ivy
Variants may be, but the exact versions won't be
icy herald
Do we have a scale for the cosmetic pets?
For example how big is the Hulk thing in the current pack going to be compared to our character models?
ruby swift
Unknown. But you can look at previous Ashes APOC footage for an idea on the pangolin and other small pets that have already been rendered in game. The troll, zombie and others that would be larger have NOT been said to be to scale, so could be minis.
idle mirage
@dense moss It unlocks whatever tier of pack and those below it. So if you bought the voyager plus pack ($375) it would unlock all of the cosmetics that are currently available. Additionally, once you purchase a pack, you can buy individual cosmetics at that tier or lower in the next pre-order cosmetic theme instead of needing to buy the entire pack
@steady ocean So to clarify, I wouldnt be able to go back and say get the pre-order bonuses from three months ago if I bought it now?
ruby swift
Correct
oak depot
did they ever say if the leveling progressing is linear versus logarithmic in terms of time spent against equal level mobs?
steady ocean
You would be able to get the bonuses such as in-game time, alpha/beta access, just not past cosmetics. @idle mirage
ruby swift
But not beyond what is offered in current packages. You would NOT be able to get Alpha 1 access that closed in Aug 2018 by buying a pack now. Can only move forward, not back.
idle mirage
Thats a bummer, I just saw the pack from March to July after discovering the game this week
ruby swift
IF they open it up again, sure. Because that is future.
real yew
Why is it that 3 years+ of ppl are asking for refunds on kickstarters lol? Some never received emails, keys, no alpha access...hmmm🤔
ruby swift
Maybe they were account speculators that were not able to sell those accounts. Many reasons.
mystic notch
Is it known if the world will be round or flat, for example if I go off the map on one side will it bring me to the opposite side of the map?
real yew
But can you imagine spending $1000 and not receiving or knowing anything in 3+ years
steady ocean
They could have reached out to customer support. In any case, your question may be better suited for #aoc-discussion
@mystic notch The devs are still discussing and testing whether they want a globe or flat
arctic sky
@mystic notch neither is confirmed
real yew
I asked here to see in case someone was a backer and could confirm they actually was emailed or received a key or any access. A few ppl were saying they were backers earlier.
tardy mortar
Do we have an idea of size of the world map?
oak depot
480 km ^ 2
crystal beacon
The game is still in Pre-alpha why would keys be out?
tardy mortar
Sure it's been asked a million times just can't seem to find it
steady ocean
480 km sq of the overworld, 100km sq of the underrealm @tardy mortar
tardy mortar
ty
oak depot
oak depot
it's all we have so far
steady ocean
With community embellishments yes
arctic sky
@real yew I'm a kickstarter backer... I have my key... There are lots of people that do
Anyone saying they don't need to talk to CS or they did something shady
crystal beacon
Im from Souteast asia. Can I play on NA server without using VPN?
steady ocean
Yes, regions are not locked @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
Thank you
twilit cloud
Get that VPN for less lag
crystal beacon
I have NordVPN. thanks for the info
arctic sky
@crystal beacon price is also same everywhere
crystal beacon
Thank you
strong drum
So to reiterate - im OCE but if my friends from other countries want to play OCE they can do so with less lag with a VPN? would they still be competetive or would this purely just enable them to play around on OCE
steady ocean
It may decrease the ping/latency some, but no matter what it is still traveling from their location all the way to the OCE area, so it won't be the same as playing in that local area
earnest knoll
@strong drum the thing with oce is that people from say NA will have less issues on OCE than OCE will have on NA as the net quality is generally higher overall, so your friends using a vpn should still be competetive if not at a small disadvantage
strong drum
I guess well have to test it out really until then we wont know what the servers can handle - im just curious because in atlas i have an international company and we can all play together with almost the same ping - it may be a special type of international server or soemthing though
arctic sky
Just test your ping and see what works for you
low lantern
@strong drum I don’t think they need a VPN to play, no server locks and it wouldn’t help with ping
pine patio
For the voyager plus pre-order pack is there any way to check if the name I want to reserve is available before I buy it?
steady ocean
Not until your tier becomes eligible to reserve your name (it goes in priority of kickstarter backers > summer backers > pre-order backers)
That being said, someone would have to reserve your specific name on every server to deny you the chance to use it
pine patio
Gotcha, and pre-order backers are all that is currently available now right
hardy crystal
frigid edge
When a Node levels up will the buildings that are currently there ie:blacksmith, market etc... stay and new ones become unlocked or will the node "reset" to be built again?
steady ocean
They will stay, and new building spots will become available to build on
frigid edge
Thanks!
raw gyro
So besides the Tulnar, is this all the playable races that will be available to players? No love for gnomes?
steady ocean
Just everything planned for launch, more races may be possible in future expansions
arctic sky
There are already a lot of races to choose from
raw gyro
Well we got 4 races, with two sides to each race. In the end it's 8 cultures, but 4 races.
desert ivy
5 races
silver beacon
From the sounds of it, Tulnar is the biggest racial variety you'll get to have
raw gyro
I'm thinking it's just gonna be the 4 races already revealed beside the Tulnar, but they'll have some 'underground living' effects showing on them.
Course this is just a biggo guess based off wiki stuff
silver beacon
No, they've been stated to have humanoid, mammalian, reptilian, and more features
But supposedly they don't equal furry
raw gyro
Hrm interesting, i forget that stuff
silver beacon
This makes me think it's just a "not all rectangles are squares" situation, but that's just my reasoning
raw gyro
Hope so. A lizard people would be coo.
silver beacon
I'm just hoping I can be a cute fox guy
strong drum
wiki states 9 races including tulnar - i understand you may consider the parent races the only true races but i mean in real life we have chinese and indonesian who are different races but both asian
silver beacon
Yes but in terms of a game that's 5 races
strong drum
so i feel like its truely 9
silver beacon
5 races with 9 sets of customization options
raw gyro
^
steady ocean
If the developers say there are 8 + 1 races, then it is 8 + 1 races
silver beacon
Imo every race should share all customization options, but eh
Devs can get terms wrong too
steady ocean
You are confusing yourself @silver beacon There are two races of dwarves, two races of elves, two races of humans, two races of orcs and the Tulnar. This totals 8 + 1
strong drum
it depends what we consider a race - and what is considered a parent race and whats the difference - if the customisation between 2 eleves races set them marginally apart thats 2 races
silver beacon
On a societal level, it's 9 races. On a game level, it's 5 races
proven root
I feel like adding new races to this game will be ALOT of work compared to maybe some other mmos where it would be like, heres a character model, heres the lore, all armor now compatible with this race... enjoy
steady ocean
You don't compare a race of elves to a race of men. You compare a race of elves to other elves. Elves, dwarves, men and orcs are different species @silver beacon
potent thunderBOT
silver beacon
Yeah that's the reason why FFXIV uses like 5 character models
ruby swift
Please keep this channel free for questions. Take it to the discussion channels please.
raw gyro
Oop, perhaps move this over to AoC Discussion peeps
silver beacon
Yeah, tag me if you want to keep going, otherwise I'll keep considering this as 5 races
twin basin
how many blades of grass are gonna be in this game?
proven root
12 or so
ruby swift
Billions, possibly trillions. All the blades of grass that can fit on the head of a pin stuck in the eye of an angel.
proven root
thats what i said, 12 trillions
swift meadow
Is there a path where a character does not have to choose a religion to worship?
ruby swift
Yes
You will miss out on part of the games lore and progression, but you are not required to take a religion
arctic sky
You just lose out on the augments
swift meadow
So its just a detriment then?
ruby swift
Steven explained that the gods of Verra are real and in game. You don't have to believe in them, they may still smite you just the same.
There is no "I am an unbeliever" benefit planned or announced so far.
swift meadow
Be kind of unfortunate to get railroaded into following a religion though. Or otherwise be less than.
proven root
smart. noice
ruby swift
The divine portals they opened to Sanctus that allowed the parent races to escape the incoming wave of corruption that destroy Verra. If you are looking for a reason to play as an unbeliever, look to the Tulnar, because they were the ones who showed up late for the ark sailing.
arctic sky
@twin basin ^
steady ocean
"Long ago, the world of Verra was besieged by a great calamity brought about by the primary antagonists of the world: The Ancients, and The Others. A corruption befell the land, twisting and perverting every facet of nature, spawning hideous beings of every description; from troll-like creatures to towering behemoths. Nothing escaped its touch.
Granted by divine intervention from the Goddess of Creation, much of the population fled Verra through towering gateways, seeking refuge in a world void of magic. The world of Sanctus."
arctic sky
But the gods created the under realm for the tulnar to survive
steady ocean
If you want to read more, you can check out https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore
raw gyro
it's been revealed bout cooking and how if you use a special oven you can really mark up the effects and benefits of the food created. BUT, does the food with special benefits need an oven? Like could I just cook the food over a campfire out in wilderness? Sorta like BOTW
ruby swift
You could, but the benfits would be lower. The oven system augments the food to higher values.
Better oven, better food, longer buff or better values.
raw gyro
ah i see. well it's good to know it's not cutoff just cuz i won't have an oven
ruby swift
Though there are no survival game mechanics in Ashes like hunger and thirst, you can look to them for examples. Eat raw meat, no benefit or minimal, cooked meat better, savory meat pie, even better.
There may be public use ovens as part of the nodes progression, too early to tell.
unkempt depot
Will there be any crafts like skate boards or kick scooters that you can perform grinds on dungeon environments as a bard class to perform for your friends?
ruby swift
They are going for a high fantasy feel, so doubt, but if they can fit it into their theme, sure.
raw gyro
^Bard Rogue = Bard Skater. Cuz u know, the need for high dexterity 😄
crystal beacon
Pro Skating is a Pyr'Ai thing
summer elbow
I didn't really notice anything in the gameplay footage we've been given, but... there's gonna be hair physics.... Right? 
ruby swift
Yep
steady ocean
There should be yes
ruby swift
The character creator when finished should have all the stuffz.
summer elbow
I hope we get a lot of decent hairstyle options... And some reaaaally long ones, at least for elves
crystal beacon
Do we have any information on how large the game will be? As in download size. I know plenty of my friends were turned off ESO because the game just took so long to download, and took up so much space.
steady ocean
The isn't fully developed, so I doubt even the devs know that @crystal beacon
dull ruin
that has to be the strangest reason to be turned away from a game
arctic sky
MMOs normally take up large spaces
ruby swift
<speculation> probably 80-100 Gig.
crystal beacon
I guess the question is if compression will be a priority before launch. The destiny 2 devs say they have the capability to get the game from 98gb down to 50-60. But everyone playing the game would have to redownload it from scratch. So they arent gonna ship it.
Im asking because if its not a priority before launch it prob will never be considered.
steady ocean
You can always try to make a forum post directed to the devs and see if you can get an official answers
crystal beacon
Yeah I should try, on reddit or is there official forums?
steady ocean
crystal beacon
thankyou
silk fractal
Usually big games like this let's you get all your files downloaded a few days before launch @crystal beacon
So it shouldn't be an issue unless they are still on dial up
ruby swift
Start polishing those tin cans and buy new string.
crystal beacon
Its not about getting into the game fast on day one. Its just an issue alot of devs willingly ignore. Game companies often admit to just not caring about game compression.
Because the "real gamers" have good internet and good PC's, when the majority of a player base is usually made up of more casual players who dont have those things.
unkempt depot
Will people be able to train the world bosses to nodes for chaotic stuff?
steady ocean
Can you rephrase your question
unkempt depot
Will people be able to aggro mobs and run with them to nodes and the bosses kill everyone there?
steady ocean
Unknown at this point, but you can always direct your question to a dev on the official forums to see if you can get an answer https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
unkempt depot
Ok cool ty
dull sequoia
I understand it was said that the Py'Rai will be able to have brown skin, but will there be options to look more like a drow? Dark grey skin, white hair?
formal torrent
Does anyone have the link to the discussion on multi-boxing? Sorry I did a quick search but couldn't find it.
I found a twitter post...
arctic sky
It was the dev discussion... They take it down every month
formal torrent
I see... I'm still catching up with all the on-goings. Thanks for the help.
Am I to understand that they won't allow scripting or single source inputs for quads, but they'll allow kvm, style inputs to swtch between different accounts?
For instance sextuplets running around 1 shoting? like they did in wow?
lean raptor
you will find many discussions about that topic If you go on the forums and search for multiboxing
timber blaze
is this game still in alpha
crystal beacon
sorry for the noob question, if i buy the 75 Dollar package, will that make the game playable now or only in the future?
woeful vector
@formal torrent
Maybe this one
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/45151/poll-bonus-dev-discussion-multiboxing#latest
formal torrent
you will find many discussions about that topic If you go on the forums and search for multiboxing
@lean raptor Yeah, there was like 43290834875934 of them... was looking for something more official.
timid snow
@crystal beacon Game is not out yet and as of right now we have no release date.
formal torrent
@formal torrent
Maybe this onehttps://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/45151/poll-bonus-dev-discussion-multiboxing#latest
@woeful vector Yeah, found this one, which the top answer sounded pretty good... which is where my question comes from.
past pewter
the froglord has spoken
crystal beacon
i only saw information about this game but i really liked what i have seen so far
arctic sky
Have is currently in pre alpha with Alpha 1 starting in the fall
lean raptor
@formal torrent Steven has adressed it in multiple streams
arctic sky
You can buy into later access but they will be actual testing phases and alpha 1 is currently not being sold
formal torrent
@lean raptor Sorry, I've only seen him say he's allowing it, but wanted more details. The last thing I saw was a youtube stream published a couple days ago, asking for more input... I was looking to provide such input... but I may have missed the boat.
crystal beacon
@arctic sky Thank you for the answer ill wait for a bit then.
arctic sky
@crystal beacon they will give warning before removing packs
How much warning we do not know
lean raptor
@formal torrent Hehe just bring it up in discussion chat in a few hours when more poeple are online and you will get many opinions xd. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/User_interface#Multi-boxing there are many links that go directly to when he talked about it in that wiki page
arctic sky
@formal torrent the TOS for multi boxing has not been set in stone which is why the discussion was happening
timber blaze
where can i watch pvp videos of the game ? i also want to see for myself if abilities flow together well and if
arctic sky
Everything is currently subject to change as it is still in pre alpha 1.. As in a real alpha
The abilities are not even set in stone yet
Not all classes have been talked about
lean raptor
For combat gameplay i would check out the newest dev update video and there is not that much reliable pvp gameplay yet
arctic sky
They are working on animations and particle effects still
silver beacon
Do we know yet what bonuses militaristic and religious metropolises will give?
lean raptor
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes this is all we know about nodes
low lantern
2017
arctic sky
@silver beacon if it's not on the blog yet then you must wait for the infamous nodes 3
sweet blade
"part 3 of our 4-part series on nodes!" yeah right lmao
arctic sky
@timber blaze way less monetization
silver beacon
Does the world loop on itself or are there invisible walls at the edges?
ruby swift
@timber blaze And ended a month later. KS been over for three years.
silver beacon
Is there going to be a group of flat-Verra theorists
ruby swift
They have not released the ball vs plate answer to the general public yet.
silver beacon
I'd be fine with a cylinder too honestly
But there would be a lot of bonuses to a looping world
full scroll
Alpha 1 was planned for end of this year, when would be the betas planned? Mid 2021?
pliant ocean
Probably closer to Q4 for Beta 1. Unless their testing in the Alpha stages goes incredibly well.
imo
full scroll
I'm interested in possibly getting in to the beta, but I got no clue when it's to even hit the download screens and I got no clue where I will be when it does happen
pliant ocean
If you don't mind the price, Alpha 2 is where you want to be. They will be persistent servers. So once it is out you can play a year ahead and all the way up until the full release.
Great time to test out the different classes so that come full release, you know what you want to play.
full scroll
250 is a bit steep to play an unfinished game, that's the way I look at it. I was thinking maybe get beta 1, but I quite want to know when can I assume it'll happen
But hey, maybe I'll win a lottery tomorrow
ruby swift
Not a problem. They are fine with people waiting. No pressure. Come back when you feel the pull.
full scroll
I'm being pulled all the time right now 😄
ruby swift
Well, solids are affected by gravity. Just to to make sure you hit the bowl when you drop.
full scroll
👌
wise olive
Hi all! Just had a quick question about naming your character. I believe I saw the ability to have a first and last name but could you just have a standard 1 named character?
wise olive
@reef osprey Appreciate it!
reef osprey
@full scroll you don't play an unfinished game
you help them test it
that steep price was exactly made to discourage people who "just want to play" the new shiny game
that's what the launch is for
reef osprey
@full scroll that's great to hear, engaged testers are always nice to have.
Just to put the $ 250 pack into perspective:
You get 90$ worth of ingame time
You get 100$ worth of embers (future shop currency)
which leaves you with $ 60 you pay for the cosmetics + the alpha access
it's still a steep price, but if you are convinced that you'll play on release, then the value is there
crystal beacon
I'm following some of the discussions kind of closely, lately it's the DPS meter discussion that is getting kind of heated. I found the development update from 30 April, 1h06m in where Steven discuss his views on it (can't link it because of new account cooldown). I would love some pointers to where else he discuss this even if he just reiterates the same points.
reef osprey
@crystal beacon i don't think we have heard much from Steven's front apart from that.
low whale
Hello, I had a question about purchasing the $375 pre-order bundle. I just recently stumbled across ashes and think it looks amazing for what it is so far. I want to purchase the pre-order bundle but wait until alpha-1 comes out so that I have more of an idea of what gameplay looks like at that point. Do you think the pre-order bundle will be for sale when alpha-1 comes out?
reef osprey
@low whale welcome :)
Yes, they will be.
If the bundle ever was to disappear, then Intrepid will provide us with a notice a couple of weeks before that would happen.
low whale
@reef osprey Thank you very much for the answer! Super excited for this game to come out. Going to play it so much if it does 🙂
crystal beacon
@reef osprey Cool, thanks!
Steven seems adamant on keeping dps meters, logs and even dps dummys out, Since it's such a sensitive point for many mmo players I feel it would relieve some tension being overly clear of why this is the case. On the wiki it just states they won't exists, having the thoughts behind the design surely would remove a lot of "unnecessary" discussion in between potential and decided players. Like what he mentions on the development update from April.
reef osprey
@crystal beacon there has been quite a lot of discussion about it on the discord as well.
I guess he will eventually address their stance towards them once more officially, but right now it doesn't seem to be on top of his priority list.
Feel free to join us in #aoc-discussion though, we are happy to discuss the stance on DPS meters for you (there are valid arguments in both factions after all).
Then we can keep this channel for questions 🙂
umbral laurel
Does anyone know if they have released a preview of the next cosmetic skins?
ruby swift
Not yet. Steven leaked some images earlier that everyone is basing their REEEE off of. But nothing confirmed yet.
umbral laurel
ruby swift
Yeah
mystic notch
arctic sky
You are going to get him in trouble with Margaret
ruby swift
Too late
umbral laurel
i mean they are on the wiki xD
ruby swift
She is going to wake up to a 100 DMs going "how much? When?"
umbral laurel
i was just looking to see if they had the whole pic of 'this is what they are'
reef osprey
Frognar cosmetic pack lol
ruby swift
There are tons of monsters that have not been shown yet that are finished. He could have just been trolling the Frognar people. Or could be the next pack. We will find out in two days at the latest if not later today.
left venture
When is AoC planning to go in alpha ?
umbral laurel
A1 is this fall
from their last dev sesh, it sounded like jeff said he wanted 5 classes in the alpha, and his team has some questions so, no specifics
left venture
Ok thanks
ruby swift
There will be 5 at the start of Alpha. The other 3 will get added over time.
hasty moss
has any good anime come out recently?
ruby swift
Ask in general, that is where most of the weeb discussion takes place.
left venture
I know some good hentai KAPPA
low whale
Is there any way I can still get this ship? It's awesome
ruby swift
If you missed the package it is gone. There may be a similar look that can be earned in game.
low whale
rip me
full scroll
To the people that have access right now, how's the performance? I am completely aware that nothing is optimized currently on purpose, but I still am Interested in a ball park figure.
ruby swift
I ran on ultra at 60 fps for 16 hours and it was butter smooth except for some drops when we were all teleported in a mass group to the dragon to die repeatedly.
full scroll
What are your specs? @ruby swift
ruby swift
I run a 2070 with 16 ram
full scroll
Processor?
crystal beacon
has anyone in here dealt with the aoc support recently? how long did it take for response if so?
wild marsh
I made a forum post asking why my account wasn't linked like 3 or four days ago. No response yet.
arctic sky
@wild marsh you go through CS not the forums
They also don't work weekends
Before it was within a day or two
But influx changed it
crystal beacon
yea ive been waiting over a week so was jw
wild marsh
Update: I've been waiting for about 10 seconds and haven't received a response from their official support 😂
exotic berry
Dies anyone know how many times a guild in total is aloud to post on the #aoc-guild-recruitment chat?
wild marsh
One post per guild per week
idk if there's guild requirements. I've seen guilds post multiple times in the same day, but I think that was just a miscommunication on their part.
crystal flax
It's supposed to be one post per guild, as it says in the pinned message in that channel
wild marsh
oh my bad then. But the second part is still valid
reef osprey
@exotic berry its written in the channel rules
exotic berry
Yeah i saw that but some guilds made so many ads
wild marsh
I'd either let them know directly, as it could be simple miscommunication, and if they don't fix it then message a mod.
wild marsh
I'd DM them
exotic berry
Okay thanks
last heron
If mounts, with the exception of legendary flying mounts, are permanent wouldn't animal husbandry as a profession oversaturate with no mechanic similar to weapon/armor degradation/repair. Has this been talked about?
arctic sky
We don't have details on the system yet so we can't confirm or deny if there is a way to stop the saturation
void sundial
Can I be left handed?
upbeat yarrow
Is there already information on name-restrictions? (Will special signs be allowed? Do you have Name and Sur-Name or....?) 🙂
tawdry forum
Is there a confirmed date for Alpha 1?
arctic sky
@tawdry forum fall
@upbeat yarrow you can have surname optional and I'm guessing character restrictions will be similar to discord
crystal beacon
Will the game be available on smartphones too
upbeat yarrow
Thanks @arctic sky
arctic sky
@crystal beacon if you're smart phone has the specs to hold a full game with 80g
crystal beacon
upbeat yarrow
😁
@crystal beacon You could try using Parsec. But I don't think that it'll be quite the same experience. 😉
arctic sky
That was the least troll response I had
crystal beacon
How does the sub fee work do we pay every month of just pay one time and that's it
still quartz
Month
shut shoal
Leader of men invites has not gone out yet right?
crystal beacon
Every month
glad sleet
Leader of men invites has not gone out yet right?
@shut shoal no not yet
night thorn
i had a question about housing specifically static. What happens to houses that players who possibly stopped playing or what no does the house get foreclosed or some type of system like that?
like do people who own static houses have to pay taxes on the static housing in order to keep in
grizzled latch
The house will return to market if taxes aren't paid
kindred stag
Anyone upgraded from BoW to LoM from 31th to now who already recieved the NDA mail per chance ?
edit: I'm just asking, I know it was the week-end but I'm curious (already send a ticket 2 days ago)
grizzled latch
Yeah they don't do that on the weekends
They are pretty fast with tickets though, might be a bit bogged down with the massive flood of new players but shouldn't take more than a couple work days
wild marsh
With the increase in people joining, buying items, etc. the support team's swamped @kindred stag
dusky pasture
How much is the size of the game now? Just wondering 
with all those feature this might surpass 50gb quickly
reef osprey
@dusky pasture alpha 1 is like 20gb
but that's not even 25% of the game
i wouldn't expect less than 80
plain shadow
Hi all, my kickstarter email has been changed without my doing so. It’s been changed to “braverofworlds1337@“ I don’t disclose the rest. Do I need to change it back to my original email?
wild marsh
That and also change your password it seems.
dusky pasture
Might as well go beyond 100gb when additional expansions gets added in the future.
plain shadow
So you don’t think it’s something from the Intrepid team?
grizzled latch
No, you can choose to link your ks account but that won't happen without your permission
slender stone
will tulnar have their own architecture for nodes?
dark jungle
yes
slender stone
naisu
willow oasis
Do we roughly know how long it will take nodes to upgrade in tiers?
and will there be a reset system
where they start back at level 1
bc i dont completely understand, will every node go through the upgrading process only once
mystic notch
I don’t know how long it will take to level but a node gets reset after losing a seige I believe
scarlet flower
afaik the nodes can be sieged and when destroyed they are reset to 0?
mystic notch
😄
arctic swift
Can i upgrade to get Alpha 2 Access while Alpha 2 is up. or just before it starts
scarlet flower
also by destroying a node, other nodes can be upgraded
mystic notch
I believe they will eventually cut off access to alpha 2 when they get the amount of testers they want @arctic swift
arctic swift
damn. was hoping to get to see what it looks like before prepurchasing.
sharp hare
From what i understood nodes wont go from 5 to 0 in a siege, many ppl talk in videos about it downgrading by 1 level BUT buildings can be destroyed even thought they wont get downgraded by tier drop players can specificly destroy them
mystic notch
You’ll be able to watch alpha 1 content!
arctic swift
Yea but what im most curious of is the augments for summoner and what type of playstyles that will be available
and that comes in alpha 2
boreal abyss
@sharp hare
that was the old way
the new way (well, half a year old ++) is that node vanishes if successful siege
So yes, a node can go from 6 to 0 if successfully sieged
mystic notch
Seems like some people might like this so here is a link to what’s being tested in alpha 1: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1 alpha 1 plans
And here’s alpha 2: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-2 alpha 2 plans
sharp hare
Thats intresting 😮 That will be even bigger money sink then before
boreal abyss
and, consequences are higher if you don't protect your shit 😛
forest pike
Will there be non-playable races?
sharp hare
I think everything will be included in sub fee
forest pike
why only friendly?
sharp hare
I wish they announced new cosmetics for this month today or tomorrow Q_Q been bombing this channel every day
mystic notch
Tomorrow it will release
mystic notch
Steven posted the release date @sharp hare
sharp hare
was it not 5th day for release?
mystic notch
He posted his calendar
forest pike
@boreal abyss Oh.. even better
sharp hare
Was there prewiew of it?
mystic notch
Have you seen the stuff he leaked already seko?
Oh that answers my content
Question*
forest pike
We need a channel for leaks
split crest
when its the next alpha-1?
sharp hare
Thank you! I guess i go for swamp theme, snaily slimy is not my thing 😂
sharp hare
Agree with leaks channel here aswell 😄 i dont have tweet whatnot
mystic notch
scarlet flower
Alpha 2 is to be some time next year?
mystic notch
We don’t know 100% but really I can’t see it being not next year
oak lynx
Is Alpha 1 still available to buy
scarlet flower
nope
forest pike
Are dying penalties in pve the same as in pvp?
oak lynx
i dont think so
bitter needle
Will there be 2 player gliding Mounts and will the extra wheigt slow the mount down/ decrease its range ?
oak lynx
hmmm
umbral forge
isnt a lot of it still subject to change so even if we see leaks it might not be in the game at a later point?
glad sleet
Ya
umbral forge
would be nice to have a leak channel like mentioned before here to keep up with it tho 😄
and to maybe look back on and speculate about what if different items that were leaked actually made it into the game
forest pike
I don't think cosmetics are subject to change
people actually pay money for them so how could you not release it?
umbral forge
they might release them still, but they can end up looking slightly different?
bitter needle
Are dying penalties in pve the same as in pvp?
@forest pike if you get killed by a guy, without engaging him you wont have the same penalty.
exept pvp zones ofc
forest pike
they're slightly different anyways given concept art is different from renders
umbral forge
true true
forest pike
the biggest difference I've noticed so far is the turtle mount
bitter needle
Also since flying wont be that common, how hard is it going to be to tame a Gryphon
or is it even going to be possible
unreal zealot
they said when they showed it that there isnt any effects on it yet
so the galaxy parts will be glowing and swirling im guessing
forest pike
but there's so little of the galaxy part
sharp hare
and the greenery dont forget about the bushes and whatnot supposed to grow out of it 😄
forest pike
where in the concept art the entire shell is galaxy
steep fog
they are pretty big on the foggy aspect, maybe it will come out and cover the shell in a mist? shrug
crystal flax
The effects would encompass the shell, but
Remember guys you're in #questions
unreal zealot
seko thats the other turtle mount
@forest pike its jsut concept art they got to think realisticly about in game for rescourses and such
forest pike
they're slightly different anyways given concept art is different from renders
@unreal zealot 👆
dense inlet
After beta the game will restart or i will keep to play from the point i reach after the release ?
crystal flax
There will be wipes after beta
worn wagon
All progress will be wiped
forest pike
@crystal flax everyone's asleep now anyways 😜
umbral forge
if you kept your progress from alpha/beta then that would be p2w 😄
plain shadow
Hi all, I’ve asked before but didn’t really get a definitive answer, has this been done at the request of intrepid or is someone trying to mess me up?
crystal flax
That sounds more like the latter, don't click any links in that email and double check the sender
dense inlet
should i forget about the game till 2021 ? hehe cant wait
storm veldt
@dense inlet I don't think this game will release before 2023 with the amount of features listed
worn wagon
There are going to be free testing modes (BR, Sieges, Horde) you can play before release
Wont give you a "real" feeling of the MMORPG though
steep fog
I would not click anything in the email, but go log into your account, verify your email, and if it has been changed - change it back and change your password. @plain shadow This is either a sign that someone got your password to get into your account, or it is a sign that someone is using a fishing attempt to get you to click on a link in that email and /give/ them your password.
forest pike
Is martial arts\parkour still a thing? i know they canceled 'assassins' creed' feature but what about on land?
still quartz
Humm i am from europe, where do i buy a pack?
ruby swift
Currently packages sales from My.Games don't work. You can purchase from Intrepid's site and will be able to transfer to My.Games at a later date if you plan to play on EU servers. Remember that VAT for your country will be added on to the total price as this sometimes shocks those in the EU.
ruby swift
There is no rush to purchase a package. The game is ramping up towards an Alpha 1 testing phase in the fall, but the earliest testing currently available in a package is Alpha 2 , which has no release date.
still quartz
Well also skins junky 😇
ruby swift
If the current skins are not to your liking, they will swap Aug 5th. They usually change monthly.
full scroll
Can someone define min-maxing for me?
umbral forge
so
u minimize ur weakness meanwhile u maximize ur strength
is the best way i can think of explaining it
without giving some specific examples
full scroll
So the most efficient way of doing X thing
alpine zodiac
Is there a site which includes all features which will be in game, explained in depth
storm veldt
In other words - you want to DO the thing you are supposed in such a way to give the best results for the team you play with
terse locust
Min-maxing means that you take even the very low impact ("minimal") stuff into account for maximizing your performance
sharp hare
Wiki or wiki 101 has some info
alpine zodiac
Okay, ty
sharp hare
sweet void
thanks to people like @ruby swift whos testing the game. Their feedback will make this game great
dreamy temple
not sure.
sharp hare
As from experience from other games where it is bannable and counts as "account sharing / rmt"
Also if you buy an account, the legitimate owner may send i ticket after a year or two when you have maxed chars and lots of money and basically take the account back, you wont be able to do a thing about it since " But i bought it from another guy for real money" wont cut it for devs 😄
rare apex
Is the cleric going to be only healing/recovery skills or does it have buff skills as well?
wanton fox
buffs as well i think
cleanses and stuff are sorta buffs
but bard is the main buff class i think
cleric is sustain and utility
sharp hare
Im sure theyve taken some inspiration from DDO bard class aswell 😛
rare apex
cleanses and stuff are sorta buffs
@wanton fox
and with cleanses you mean remove status effects like burn, electrical, bleeding, etc. right?
sharp hare
Remove rage would fit a ranger class better imo like in wow
hollow forge
Will it be possible to play on Russian and European servers from one account?
kind cloud
will we get to pick what gateway we come out from when we start or is that race based?
clear sedge
So what are the main MMORPGs that AOC is drawing ideas/inspirations from
charred cedar
How do the pre order packs work? Will the items in them be avaliable again in game or like on the store at some point or is it a one time deal if you miss it you missed it?
fading latch
Archeage and Lineage 2@clear sedge
@charred cedar the cosmetics in the pre order are a one time deal for that month only. They rotate each month, never to be sold again
There may be variations in game, but not exactly the same as the skin that was in the monthly rotation
charred cedar
ahh oki I remember seeing the edgy one last month and it looks really cool, Kinder sucks but it's good we can get something similar later on that'll be nice 
clear sedge
Oh wow archeage didn't expect that
Might have to buy and play the new version
I'm trying to find an mmo to get my mmo game back in shape
I haven't played in forever need to be ready for ashes
crystal beacon
are the tulnar lizard people
sharp hare
woven zodiac
Does anyone know when the next cosmetics will be available in the store? I'd really like to buy a pack, but I really don't like the Might of the Murk cosmetics 💔
fading latch
Tulnar are a combination of Reptilian, Mammal and Humanoid. You will get sliders for each to pull your character each way@crystal beacon
@woven zodiac tomorrow
sharp hare
Yoone there are 3 leak photos of next pack mentioned earlier on this channel if you havent seen them yet
tulip hatch
August 5, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific cosmetics cycle over
fading latch
Woops. Day after tomorrow
woven zodiac
Oh wow, amazing timing, thanks for the quick replies! 😄
sharp hare
Thought i take swamp any day to slimy snail, its well made but not my thing 😄
woven zodiac
I'll take a look at the leaked stuff, hopefully I don't want to wait another month 😛
crystal beacon
can you look like a frog
scarlet flower
I wanna play
honest solstice
@crystal beacon The tunlar are like the people who didnt get to leave so they can be more beastual in apperiance yes
ocean forum
I just found a German news article about Ashes which says that the Dawnbreaker mount can be obtained later in game. Is that true? I thought it´s a mount for all Braver of Worlds and higher and not something everyone can have later ingame
haughty turret
Hello ! I have friends from multiple countries in EU, will there be an global european server for us to gather on and play all together please ? Or will we have to regroup on a specific national one ?
crystal beacon
Probably one EU with multiple servers to choose from, like WoW.
But that reminds me that there are some issues with that, like people refusing to speak/write English. So you get this whole group of people talking Spanish and then a bunch German...
So i hope there are some DE / IT / RU / etc only servers
haughty turret
I mean I assume there will be a server for each language so people refusing to speak english can just play on their national server whereras the european one will be for people that acknowledge english being the only language to speak with
silk fractal
When they say things drops at 11 am does it mean east or west time?
upbeat jolt
I doubt it Syphens, Cagli
rocky vapor
Does the tank have taunt abilities, and does taunting work in PvP if so?
junior sky
there will be RU only servers, they said that much on twitter. If there is RU servers there will most likely be DE / EN servers too. Maybe even SP / IT / FR.
Nobody will be locked out of any servers tho so russians can join the EN servers or the DE servers if they like
sharp hare
Im pretty sure they have data of which countries have bought how many packages so they can prepare for bare minimum of servers per country/continent etc
junior sky
there is no information on the specific classes and archtypes yet. We will have to wait till after the alpha 1 and 2 @rocky vapor
rocky vapor
Ouf okay
crystal beacon
@rocky vapor Taunt wouldn't work in PvP, unless the (only) option would be that the target your enemy selected would be appointed to you, when you taunt him/her.
sinful lagoon
Im the past, taunt forced targeting in PvP.
rocky vapor
Does that mean there's no auto attacking in the game?
But also, why not just have a player just lose control and cast random spells at the target upon PvP taunt? Ideas for the devs perhaps. 🤔
ebon star
No auto attacking with the hybrid system
sharp hare
PvP is flag/toggle type, if you dont want it cant be forced on you
ebon star
You gotta swing your weapon
rocky vapor
@sharp hare Well, PvP will be force on you in the world anyway, right?
sharp hare
Nope, if you dont want to you dont have to do it, youll be killed but you dont have to fight back 🙂
rocky vapor
Yeah, so you can be killed whether you like it or not.
ebon star
It's open world pvp but fighting back reduces how much can be stolen from you
sharp hare
If you are not in spesific activity that allow uncorrupted pvp, ppl who kill you get corruption if you dont fight back
Yes, they can kill you as many times as they want, like someone mentioned earlier in general section : " Just go into dungeon kill the mobs and players and roll over them" well if you do that in the end of the day youll be corrupted with a million negative exp if no one fights back
ebon star
^
rocky vapor
So what's the difference if you add taunt to PvP? Sounds like a fun mechanic.
sharp hare
Exeptions will most likely be guild war dec etc, i think there will be some kind of mechanic like this : If you are in a war with a spesific guild, you wont be needed to flag to kill them, they will be considered as mobs" because if you are in a war with a guild, you meet enemy on grinding spot, you activate flag to attack enemy guild and he runs to another player that is not war with you, you end up killing both leaving you corrupted
ebon star
Tanks taunts abilities as for what we have tested is just aggro building for NPCs have not seen a taunt for pvp yet, but there is a charge and pull.
rocky vapor
^ That's pretty cool still.
crystal beacon
if i buy Wayfarer pack now, will i be able also to upgrade it to ie. Voyager pack before game launch?
ebon star
Tanks have cc as well
sharp hare
Mac there might be a possibility of spesific packages to be removed IF they fill spesific quota like 10 000 players for A2 or something like that
Just a hunch no certainty
ebon star
They will announce when upgrades to certain testing levels go away
You can slowly upgrade or even wait for the cosmetics you want just watch along with development.
ruby pewter
@simple ether Hey buddy is summoner the utility class people in the vc who don't understanding the meaning need your confirmation
ebon star
We have no info on summoner
ruby pewter
rough meadow
Question: Will there ever be another backer round in the near future? I really want to back the project, but i missed a lot so, if there is any hint in future last chance grabs, im all waiting:)
stuck girder
For how much longer will the Voyager Plus pack be in the shop?
sharp hare
If you want to enter the game Alpha 2 is your only choice atm, i doubt they will add any new things for A1, i think they have enought testers for that 😄
coral raven
Lmao can you imagine a Rogue/Tank hitting an enemy with aggro in PvP and they can be attacked by their allies and take your appearance xD
Obviously that would need a high cool down
strong drum
I have a question, not really gameplay related but something that came to mind. A particular country nont naming any names has a history of unapoligetically stealing and copying ideas from other developers/countries. Will AoC have anyway to prevent that?
sharp hare
Lick like earlier mentioned they will announce when they will remove spesific packages IF they will do it
fading latch
@rough meadow Kickstarter wont be coming back around. The pre order packs is all thats available to support the game
ebon star
@rough meadow unlikely to see something like the ks or summer backer packages again but who knows what the devs decide to change with how they market
stuck girder
alright, thank you
ebon star
@strong drum no real way to prevent that but get publishers to also buy license to have your game on their servers for play too
sly tangle
Question: Are the cosmetics from previous preorder packages unobtainable or likely to make a return at some point?
peak kindle
Is there any information on system requirements the game is gonna have?
ebon star
Once cosmetics leave the store they are gone
strong drum
Yeah its a shame - this particular country doesnt seem to abide by any international laws and will exploit any opportunity arisen - hopefully AoC isnt cloned too
fiery pawn
does anybody know what kind of specs will be required
fading latch
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Performance @fiery pawn
fiery pawn
ty
fading latch
I was running a laptop with i5, 1050 and 8gb ram on medium and was getting 40-50fps
With all the trimmings off such as shadows, FXAA etc
fiery pawn
hmm that's good
fading latch
Its definitely accessible for lower end PC players. Just dont expect the best graphics. Even then, i had decent visuals and could see detail with everything turned off
young wind
Do you think someone could steal my account if they have access to my kickstarter?
I can't get into my original kickstarter account and it scares me now lol
sharp hare
Contact the support and most likely via various verifications youll be able to get it back if you have forgotten your login etc
Person who steals an account by using password generators etc willnever be able to get your account permanently to himself IF you have purchace info / receipt info + verification of yourself etc there are many ways.
But that is how its done in other games with reasonable and active support, not sure how its done with ashes just assumptions ^_^
young wind
I think ashes uses the original key they sent out after kickstarter finished but that was years ago. I should do better record keeping fuuu
fading latch
Yes keys were sent out almost 2 years ago
sharp hare
There are always ways, try to contact official support and figure it out, if you are entitled to something and you havent claimed it yet
fading latch
Check your spam folder too. Sometimes it will be there
Also go through the process of recovery via Kickstarter
young wind
I claimed it I'm just afraid someone will steal my account because my kickstarter might be compromised
yeah I did that sent them a support email but they have no phone number
I also sent a support ticket to ashes that someone may have my original kickstarter code
fading latch
Have you tried applying it to your Intrepid account?
stray dome
I heard the Alpha One comes this month, is this true?
young wind
I did a while ago.
young wind
I used it a while ago thats what I'm saying
crystal flax
A1 is Fall
fading latch
Then your fine
young wind
nack in 2018 december
fading latch
Yeah ur fine then
Its applied now and cant be taken off
Nor can someone else put ur key into their account
As its a unique key
young wind
Yeah but when you try to recover your account they ask for that key as a means of proving it was your original account and that is long gone.
or it was on the kickstarter account which I do not have access to anymore.
fading latch
If youre still concerned. Change ur email and passwords on both Kickstarter and Intrepid
And go through recovery if u cant access
Thats all the advice we can give you
young wind
I'm probably just paranoid. Well when my ticket goes through I will ask them to put a note in or something.
Having an old Braver of Worlds account will do that I guess. God I can't wait for Alpha1!
solemn finch
I saw somewhere that alpha 2 isn’t going to end? That it’ll keep going till launch. Does anyone know anything about this?
verbal shard
Is there any indication on who is gonna publish the game for Europe? Is it gonna be the same company or some other? If yes than which one?
tulip hatch
Alpha 2 is persistent testing, once the game launches A2 will become the testing server according to previous statements by the developers
My.games is the publisher for EU
Intrepid plans on self publishing in OCE and NA
onyx knoll
@verbal shard my.games are the ones publishing in the EU currently
verbal shard
oh no....
onyx knoll
They have 0 freedom with the game
gusty fable
Anyone played Age of Conan? Is the combat system similar to that game?
tulip hatch
Intrepid has ensured that Intrepid controls all creative control, the game will be identical to NA both cash shop and server quality per their contract
steady ocean
Much more in depth @gusty fable
upbeat yarrow
(Only if you know) Why is Intrepid not publishing it itself in EU? :3
crystal beacon
Aren't they reconsidering my.games as the publisher?
tulip hatch
If Intrepid were to self publish due to the EU laws they would have to delay launch for the EU this contract ensures EU launches with NA
onyx knoll
We don't know that for sure. We have a vague mention of Steven saying he's going to be givig a statement concerning the state of the shop in EU not working, but nothing that says they are changing provider. Maybe but i wouldnt spread rumors about it
tulip hatch
Intrepid has not stated reconsidering my.games as a publisher they have addressed that they are investigating the issues purchasing from their store and will provide an update on that.
upbeat yarrow
That is nice to know. Thank you 🙂 @tulip hatch
steel flicker
I know that the cosmetics in the shop swap over on the 5th of August, but I haven’t been able to find any information on what they’ll be swapping to.
Has there been any information distributed about what will be available in the shop past the 5th?
tulip hatch
There will be an announcement today
we did get some leaks however a pet, caravan and mount skins
tulip hatch
Youre welcome
echo dew
tulip hatch
That is the mount yes
undone wadi
Do you know if the skins from previous packages can be bought? I would like to know before I make a purchase
tulip hatch
No you can only purchase future cosmetics once you have a pack, once the cosmetics are gone they dont return
undone wadi
Aww, that's too bad. Some of those skins were great!
No reason to wait any further then
tulip hatch
You may prefer future cosmetics over the current ones so theres no rush either c:
wispy musk
Is it known wether family summoning has any requirements to perform other than just being in the same family; lets say I have a second account with 7 (if that many are possible) level 1 Characters on there and position them all relevant places while being in the same family, Would people be able to such "alt" accounts just as a way of fast-travel.
steady ocean
@wispy musk https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Family_summon
Gives a nice overview of what the expected requirements/limits are
oak depot
to be fair, they shouldn't allow character to summon if they are level 1 (not sure if they will). Note, I said "summon" not "be summoned". Perhaps level 10 at the earliest?
wispy musk
Thanks but I've already read this, I don't really see anything in there that would make what I said impossible
oak depot
@wispy musk I mean what you suggest is theoretically possible with what we know
steady ocean
You can't summon your own alts, you would need someone else to summon them @wispy musk
oak depot
@steady ocean he said separate account with multiple alts
the alts just keep summoning the main other accoutn to various locations
wispy musk
I feel this would just become a norm for the less casual player if this would exist, just as it is currently in Classic WoW.
steady ocean
Then in that scenario that is probably possible, but remember that you need to level all of those alts up for them to be effective at gathering the higher level resources. You can ask over in #aoc-discussion what others think as this is more of a discussion. One last thing I'll say though is that you will want to be a part of a family that is more useful for dungeons/raiding/guild activities and using your spot for alts will really dampen your ability to be effective @wispy musk
onyx knoll
This system will need a lot of testing in alpha so we can figure out how to make it difficult to abuse. For now yes you could use multiple accounts as fast travel anchors
oak depot
*gateways 😉
tulip hatch
Thats a good question for a forum post or a livestream Q&A
The family summon was a new concept not mentioned before so we have little information regarding its restrictions and capabilities
oak depot
I mean, it only works if multi-boxing is allowed
otherwise, your 2nd account is technically in violation
onyx knoll
#aoc-discussion (o'.')b
tulip hatch
This is not a channel for speculation or discussion so please continue that in #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion
It is a valid concern and would make for a good discussion!
Thank you
oblique scarab
Any idea when the next cosmetic packs will be revealed?
tulip hatch
Today sometime
wispy musk
Thanks for the intrest in the question guys, And granted you'd need a second PC or laptop lying around for this to work.
But I just wanted to bring it up to see if it was something that was already talked about. I'll move over to the discussion channel ❤️
oblique scarab
Oh snal
tulip hatch
Thank you
Now we may continue with Questions and Answers c:
Take comments/discussions to the appropriate channels
delicate idol
My question is about the % damage dealt = % exp given to seperate groups. I know Steven talked about this in the latest developer update. But what about healers? Will their heal work the same as damage? (Might've been asked, but still wanting to know)
azure knot
its party based dmg, so if u are healer in party, u get same % like whole pt
steady ocean
Only damage counts towards the %dmg done by a group. The experience a group earns is then split amongst the group members.
delicate idol
Alright, thank you!
azure knot
u can do solo dmg too, but you will fight with other potential groups, so it will be tiny fraction
oblique scarab
So would that mean a small 2 man group would l faster because more exp potential trial between the 2 or is the amount of exp greater in a group? Like how some mmos have increased exp based on party size.
steady ocean
@oblique scarab try asking in #aoc-discussion to get a more in depth response/discussion
grizzled latch
Up to 40% bonus exp in group i think
grizzled latch
So 140% in 8 man group, split 8 ways 17.5% per person
oblique scarab
I dont make the rules I just yeet em out a window. Also ty @grizzled latch
azure knot
example: its 100 exp from killing mob at 100%, with full party its 40% boost so 140exp / current party size
errant chasm
so the wiki says alpha 2 is estimated to be 10k players what if 100k people buy into alpha 2? will they open more slots or like a lottery?
slender axle
Im coooooming im cooooooooooming
oblique scarab
Right but there is an additional bonus exp % depending on group sozw.
azure knot
yes
grizzled latch
It caps at 40%, lower for smaller groups
stable plover
@errant chasm I'm thinking that wording on wiki is wrong since 10k is the A1 number
steady ocean
@oblique scarab I don't think it is known, you can try asking on the official forums on the question megathread and see if you can get an official response. https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
cedar thicket
What's the difference between the 2 "types" of a particular race?
azure knot
its prolly not final anyway, as they still balance exp amounts and progression
slender axle
@cedar thicket left and right
oblique scarab
Racial passives/abilities, lore and looks @cedar thicket
cedar thicket
Wow, thanks. Now I know everything i wanted
crystal flax
Most things other than the base racial features
Their cultures are different, there's racial augments, they'll look different
cedar thicket
When are we going to get the info about racials?
onyx knoll
The architecture is different too
crystal flax
If you mean augments, probably not a while still
grizzled latch
Racials will probably come after classes
fair yew
we may get some racial stuff in alpha 1 but that isn't confirmed
oblique scarab
The racial abilities and in depth info will come as testing is made. No eta on those.
cedar thicket
Ok, thanks
oblique scarab
I just wish they would show us some Summoner and Bard info.
crystal beacon
Have we learned anything about (open)world bosses? Will they just be zergable or will you need a brain?
trail oyster
Would love to see racials that are node based. I.e Dwarves getting increased X in mountain ranges etc.
crystal beacon
Can someone DM me what the banned "L" word is ?
grizzled latch
Those are the 2 classes that they aren't going to have in a1
light glen
How often do the devs visit the forums?
fair yew
all the time
light glen
Discord?
steady wharf
In regards to nodes, is node type going to be randomized per server? Like on one server a node is scientific and one a different server that same node is economic.
fair yew
also all the time
crystal beacon
@light glen form what I understand they have a PR team that goes on the forums and produces reports for the devs which are discussed in meetings
grizzled latch
Nodes are static types
oblique scarab
@crystal beacon the banned L word is user has been banned
crystal beacon
@light glen and I have no doubts some devs/designers go directly there.
light glen
Will cash shop cosmetics be on par with raid gear?
steady ocean
@steady wharf I believe all the nodes are static and the same per server. However, player choice will be different across the servers
fair yew
all nodes will be the same layout on every server but it will depend on how people level them up that will change the economy
fleet rock
since races arn't getting race specfic city advantages and disadvantages, would that mean each level of a city is the same layout but different models?
oak depot
Can someone please tell me how many Skill Points we get by the time we hit max level cap of 50? Is it 50? Is it < 50? Is it more than 50?
ebon star
Unknown amount as of right now for skill points
grizzled latch
@light glen yes
steady ocean
@fleet rock A city's layout is determined by the mayor and the choices that mayor takes in regarding to which buildings they want
tulip hatch
@oak depot Only the developers can answer that one sorry friend c: save it for a livestream Q&A
oak depot
but I see one lurking around
fair yew
you get multiple skill points per level so far in testing but that could very well change
fleet rock
yeah but a plot of land is allocated to be whatever, it's not really like a layout
you don't choose where the building goes
fair yew
some buildings in villages and higher are chosen by the mayor
steady ocean
The mayor can choose which buildings are what @fleet rock
steady wharf
@fair yew I The nodes would be static, but i wasn’t sure if it be a different node per server.
fair yew
nope all the servers will have the same node map
oblique scarab
Are player owned Taverns built on Freeholds or in towns?
steady ocean
@oblique scarab freeholds
fair yew
freeholds
light glen
What is the current mindset regarding cosmetic cash shop?
ebon star
It's the only cash shop
steady ocean
@light glen You can ask in #aoc-discussion to get a better perspective
limber owl
If you have the same profession as a friend could you help run the same freehold
fleet rock
believe it's gonna be relatively big @light glen
oblique scarab
The Stackshack is gonna be lit. Come hang at my tavern folks.
fleet rock
since no p2w
fair yew
you could have permissions to do things in freeholds so presumably yes
limber owl
Ty
steady ocean
@limber owl One person would "own" the freehold, but you both may be able to "work" there
nimble charm
do we know when the next set of cosmetics for preorder will be available?
crystal beacon
Will there be other races added eventually maybe in expensions ? I wish the race roster looked like Everquest's racial selection lol
steady ocean
Aug 5th @nimble charm
nimble charm
ty @steady ocean
steady ocean
@crystal beacon possible yes
crystal beacon
I wish they had gnomes and halflings lol
And trolls, and ogres...
but not frogloks
fair yew
that is where the tulnar come in mostly. they are a mixed race of different lesser races so you could make a gnomelike character or a troll like character
crystal beacon
@fair yew could I make a dark elf ?
I thought tulnars were always man-animal hybrids
fair yew
we don't really know how extensive the character creation for tulnar is going to be except it will be extensive
eternal palm
Is there a stamina system ala Skyrim ontop of "Mana"?
steady ocean
You can read more on the races here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races
fair yew
No @eternal palm
eternal palm
yey
crystal beacon
Yeah I spend about 3 hours a day on the wiki lol 🙂 thank you 🙂
fair yew
The tulnar don't have to be animal hybrids they are just the most prominently shown from my understanding
crystal beacon
This changes everything lol
Will tulnars all have the same base stats no matter what ?
fair yew
yes they don't have sub races
steady ocean
Base stats are determined by their race and not features, so I'd imagine yes
eternal palm
Will summoners just have 1 powerful summon? Or could you go for a swarm build
fair yew
but it may vary between archetype primaries i don't remember if that changed
crystal beacon
Would be crazy if the sliders actually changed the stats...
eternal palm
yea that would be, like if you are part werewolf you have more strenght/stamina but less int/wis type thing
onyx knoll
@eternal palm it'll depend on your 2nd archetype
fair yew
that would create the meta for everyone to be tulnar
onyx knoll
@eternal palm but i believe the max amount of summons is 3, so you wouldn't have like 50 swarming around
crystal beacon
Anyways, this is becoming a discussion 😛
full scroll
What would be a decent average in terms of players per node?
fair yew
your summons will likely vary based on the augments you pick for your skills
full scroll
In let's say, stage 3
onyx knoll
@full scroll a stage 3 will probably have around 60 citizens
1x 50 person apartment, 8x in-node houses, and freeholds
full scroll
Ye, that's what I heard, thanks for info.
steady ocean
@full scroll You can read more about nodes here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes to get some more details if you would like.
wind eagle
Wuold be interesting if ashes offer treehuoses😁
fair yew
some of the artwork and designs they have shared have treehouse type buildings and such from the elven races
gaunt shard
Not sure if this is answered, can you choose which node you wish to start at based on the map?
crystal flax
There's 4 starting locations
fair yew
there will be I believe 5 gates you can chose between them
wind eagle
some of the artwork and designs they have shared have treehouse type buildings and such from the elven races
@fair yew up in the tree right ?
crystal flax
There's 2 on each major island, unless they mentioned adding another
I believe they scrapped the idea of an underrealm start for Tulnar, so that'd be 4
fair yew
yes in the tree
wind eagle
Cool
oak depot
1 starting underrealm I believe
fair yew
Yea there is 4 gateways and tulnar are able to select a gateway to start at but they also have a starting area without a gateway
so 5 starting areas not 5 gateways
wintry seal
when is the exact release date for this game?
onyx knoll
we don't have a release date
fair yew
alpha 1 is fall this year we will get more dates as they get closer
onyx knoll
probably 2-3 years from now
wintry seal
wow that's a pity
stone mural
Someone said the cosmetics on the pre-order packs change every month on the 5th so if I don't want to use a swamp outfit I can just wait a couple more days, is this correct?
onyx knoll
@stone mural correct
fair yew
right on the 5th the cosmetics will swap
onyx knoll
Next month's theme seemed to be amphibians lol
stone mural
Cool! I hope it's not... like worse...
crystal flax
It's not always the 5th necessarily, just that this next change is the 5th, they always say in the news post when the next change happens
stone mural
SOrry but I'm to vain to wear a swamp.
mossy token
Whats the best way to learn as much as I can about this game? Any good wikis?
fair yew
ashesofcreation.wiki
stone mural
in the community-links
onyx knoll
mossy token
Thanks!
stone mural
the channel in this discord, lots of info
Other question, is it posted anywhere all the glamour I've missed? xD I'm just curious at this point lol
onyx knoll
stone mural
I tried looking but I must not be using the right keywords
onyx knoll
at the bottom of that page
stone mural
thanks!!!
they all look pretty cool 🙂 I will be sad I missed all those doggos and that hydraswan. I hope I can see them in game on someone! Woot!
wintry seal
wait u can pre book costumes?
shell wing
Will they translate the game into more languages than the ones listed?
steady ocean
You can get cosmetics via the pre-order packs. https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop @wintry seal
wheat tulip
Is there more than the 3 standard types of classes in the game? Like is there classes intended to be more strictly support(not healing) etc
onyx knoll
@shell wing If there is enough demand
shell wing
Hmm ok , thank you
onyx knoll
@wheat tulip Yes, Bards are support
They have a bit of healing but mostly buffs/debuff
wintry seal
@steady ocean those costumes look ugly like a mud costume, I prefer princess look type costumes
steady ocean
@shell wing The devs have said they will try to translate the game into multiple languages based on player demand
onyx knoll
@wintry seal Good thing they change every month then
scarlet topaz
@wintry seal I believe new sets come out August 5th.
steady ocean
@wintry seal The cosmetic packs change periodically, you can check past packs at the the bottom of this page https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs
wintry seal
will costumes have advantage in game cause this costume mid one reminds me of ghillie suit on other game which makes other players untargettable
crystal flax
No gameplay benefits for any of the cosmetics
onyx knoll
@wintry seal They are purely visual with no stats or bonuses
wintry seal
sweet
shell wing
@steady ocean Well i mean , almost the entire south america + spain do speak spanish so..
arctic sky
Most of south America balk at the $15 month sub price
slender quarry
does anyone know if spells or moves with have animation cancelling?
arctic sky
No regional pricing
steady ocean
@arctic sky That topic may be better for #aoc-discussion
arctic sky
They have stated as being against animation cancelling on one of the stream
humble flare
unreal zealot
steven has talked about harmonizing sub price to match currencys but its not 100% set in stone i dont think
shell wing
@arctic sky I personally don't care about the price but a lot of people live in much poorer countries though , 15$ can be a lot for them.
steady ocean
@shell wing I'd recommend posting on the official forum and getting your friends to post in your thread (or find a thread that is already created) if you would like to see your language considered. The more interest the devs see the more likely it will happen https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
arctic sky
@shell wing it's been stated that people VPN for cheaper sub cost can be an issue
shell wing
Yeah you are right about that
wet whale
On the topic of the sea, are we going to see different types of ships? Like fishing, trading, war. Are there going to be any different sizes or styles of each of those? I think it would be cool to have ships of the same class, but different layouts on them, to give people some trade-offs on what one to run.
arctic sky
From what we know about ships they can be upgraded and modded
stuck girder
do we know exactly what the map will look like?
slate fox
ruby swift
Actually this has changed as of the AMA. Price harmonization for certain economically depressed areas like SA will be considered. Those regions they decide to offer a discounted subscription on will be locked to play on servers in that region to stop customers from VPNing into that region to buy and then playing in their preferred region. As of right now they have not confirmed any region after launch, it is just a plan.
steady ocean
@stuck girder
stuck girder
thanks
unreal zealot
@arctic sky its already been stated that you pay for the server you connect to so you cant go to brazzilian server pay the cheapest price and expect to go to us server it wouldnt work if yor in brazil and you want to go on us server you pay the $15 flat out
arctic sky
So it's being considered now thanks
ruby swift
It is ok, I was saying the same thing as Aryielle up until last week. Information moves quick during active development.
undone snow
anyone know how much % of all systems Steven want in game is done? 20% world if i remember correctly, but how about all those amazing systems our God introduced to us?
tight path
that makes no sense, are they gonna open a server for every country they accept payment in?
steady ocean
@undone snow I'd imagine he would want all the systems in the game at launch
@tight path Regions, not countries
unreal zealot
it makes sense for poorer reigons to get harmonized pricing,
crystal beacon
hey guys! will eu get the same cosmetic packs as the us?
i really want that snail mount
steady ocean
@crystal beacon Yes, the next cosmetic pack is available on Aug 5th
tight path
so it will be more like south america rather than a brazil server then
light glen
Whats the deal with prealpha cosmetic sales?
steady ocean
You can also purchase cosmetic mounts on the Intrepid Website https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop @crystal beacon
unreal zealot
we hopfully will get info on that "soon"
ruby swift
Not every country, every region. For example, at this time South America is not a supported region. If they decide to offer Ashes for play on say an AWS server out of Bogata, people in that region would have access to a harmonized rate for SA. If they took that deal, they would be locked to playing on the server based out of Bogata. If they tried to play on NA West, their subscription would be invalid.
steady ocean
@light glen Can you rephrase your question? They are items included in the pre-order backer packs
errant chasm
@slate fox they said 0 region locking so alot of sa will be on na
light glen
@steady ocean i may be wrong but there is already cosmetic shop online for backers of course
lyric dust
How long will the Voyager pack be available? I want to purchase it, but need to wait a few weeks. I'm really wanting to get in on A2.
steady ocean
Those are the only available cosmetics currently @light glen
crystal flax
A2 isn't for a long time so you'll be fine @lyric dust
lyric dust
For sure, I figured. But wanted to double check! Thank you.
light glen
@crystal flax Alpha 1 this year, alpha 2 q3 perhabs if there arent any foundational issues
crystal beacon
do these mounts in the founders pack all have the same quality
ruby swift
@errant chasm No region locking only applies to those that pay the regular sub cost.
crystal beacon
i know they are skins
ruby swift
@crystal beacon Then what do you mean by quality. Graphically?
errant chasm
Oh didnt hear that part yet @ruby swift thanks
crystal beacon
like, will the snail be endgame mount
winter parrot
What are the limits for in-game Social Organizations such as a mages guild? One per character?
crystal beacon
or just mid level
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon Some can be applied to royal mounts, some can't. If it look like it can't fly then you wouldn't be able to use it on a flying/gliding mount 😛
@crystal beacon The skins will be able to be applied on any mount that matches their type
So you could use the snail skin on your 1st horse
onyx knoll
they're skins!
errant chasm
@crystal beacon they arent skins themselves u need a mount to apply the skin
onyx knoll
you apply them to a mount of your choice haha
onyx knoll
nope
somber basalt
@onyx knoll Are you sure about that? I thought you needed to have the same type
crystal beacon
so i can put it on a horse
onyx knoll
really?
crystal beacon
that is canon?
somber basalt
Let me check wiki
onyx knoll
Mhh, I might have misunderstood
ruby swift
@errant chasm Yes, if you are in SA and don't care about the money, you can pay a regular sub and play on whatever server you want, with the exception of EU, you would need to have an account with MY.Games for that.
steady ocean
Mounts come in tiers. A tier 1 mount skin cannot be applied to a tier 2 mount. A tier 2 skin cannot be applied to a tier 3 mount (royal mount) etc. It is based on the tier that the mount & skin is in