I assume they said certain nodes as such that a desert would always be a desert and not seasonal
#questions
silk fractal
rose mist
Yea about the seasons i heard just didnt hear about the other one , thank you :)
silk fractal
or in the conventional seasonal way of summer/fall with the orange leafs falling/winter with the snow and all
that's the info we have
scarlet flower
How much of the game can you "solo", or in other words are you very dependant on having a guild to get good gear?
earnest knoll
Youl have a hard time trying to do things solo
silk fractal
you're dependant on either having a raiding group or finding ppl to pay to make your gear if you want to play solo
rose mist
I think they said that you dont have to but it wont be easy to go solo
silk fractal
a guild seems very recommended
rigid crow
Nodes force you to interact with other players even if its by killing them.
silk fractal
there's not lfr a la wow in this game
scarlet flower
idk about wow, but in my l2 expirience you would have to be in a guild and participate in much stuff and wait for your turn to get geared by the guild
rigid crow
There is family teleport thought, so its more about finding friends rather than a group
scarlet flower
Which idk how good it is, cuz someone else decides if you are worthy for gears etc...
silk fractal
I don't know how the loot distribution works in this game so can't speak on that I'm sure someone knows
but you can craft bis gear(at the level of bis raiding gear)
rigid crow
@scarlet flower Its node based, not guild based so it will be a bit more fair but still near the peak of MMO toxicity.
silk fractal
so technically you could just get rich and have a crafter or buy your gear
there's is other options than raiding
scarlet flower
I guess, the question is can you get rich solo? without scamming people
just by playing the game
silk fractal
yes ofc you can
rigid crow
@silk fractal Only from drops from the bosses, epic crafting gear is going to be a group effort
Nothing is solebound though
silk fractal
they say it's a group effort since you can specialize in one crafting part by yourself
but you can pay a crafter to make you gear if you have the mats
earnest knoll
Id say it would be hard to get rich solo without doing a profession
silk fractal
but basically do a profession/grind with some randoms/pvp gank and steal stuff/do market manipulation and you could get rich enough to buy your gear in that way
scarlet flower
I guess having multiple toons for different needs would be an advantage crafter/gatherer/etc
rigid crow
You get rich though caravans and the auction house, people are going to crush it XD
silk fractal
I assume you need to invest SIGNIFICANT time to level a crafting/gathering thing
so multi toons prob isn't the best way to go about it
but so early to tell
rigid crow
@silk fractal if the same person harvests, processes and crafts the gear (or it might be if created in the same freehold) you get higher chances of better gear.
mystic notch
Steven said master crafters might even be known throughout the server but I think this is because of the scarcity of rare recipes and not as much the leveling of the skill itself(which will probably still be a very long process!).
silk fractal
you will still be able to buy gear from good crafters/ be it finished goods or what else
but yeah being in a group like I said it recommended
rigid crow
Yep and epic patterns have a limited number of uses as well, so you will need the guild to feed you.
mystic notch
I was adding on to your statement
silk fractal
was aimed toward logical @mystic notch
mystic notch
Ah my bad
earnest knoll
Do we have any idea of why we only need 15gb of storage for alpha? Seems quite low even if the alpha region is significantly smaller
glad sleet
“Only?”
strong drum
tranquil willow
storage it said
zinc lava
formal torrent
Has there been any talk about VR?
wild marsh
Not that I'm aware. However I think there will be a first person view like WoW and other MMOs. So, if you have the program you should be able to play it in VR using a third party system but idk how good it would look. It works for WoW and GW2
earnest knoll
From the looks of that id assume the files unpacked wouldnt be more than 15gb right?
reef osprey
that's alpha
wild marsh
@glad sleet Do you have a source for that?
reef osprey
@earnest knoll the alpha isN#t supposed to have more than 25% of the game in
full game should cover 60+ easily
earnest knoll
Ik @sharp garnet i was saying even if thats the case 15gb is insanely small in this day and age for a game like this
glad sleet
I redact my statement - mixed it up with wrong game, VR was never mentioned
Thx xyp for correcting me
wild marsh
@formal torrent Look up VorpX it turns a lot of games (even non supported ones) into VR compatible. I've used it a lot and it works. It may even work for Alpha/Beta
wild marsh
I played a few and they seemed fine tbh. But I'm not a fan of VR atm anyway so I never delved into them deeply.
ruby swift
Yeah, VR has been given as a no. Would require a whole new set of animations. Jeffrey has addressed it at least twice. Not in the budget.
frigid edge
I'm looking for an NA guild that will be focused on Seafaring and has a flexible attitude towards "acquiring" goods from lightly guarded shipping vessels.
wild marsh
This is not the section for that @frigid edge
earnest knoll
@frigid edge id look in #aoc-guild-recruitment for that kinda thing
wild marsh
You already posted in the correct section, so idk why you posted here after?
glad sleet
I think #aoc-guild-recruitment or #aoc-guild-chat is what you are looking for
frigid edge
I posted in guild chat. This one is just way more active.
coral girder
Lol.
glad sleet
See channel description
wild marsh
Because this is for questions. You won't get anyone looking for a guild mate that can't follow simple steps miamigo
frigid edge
Ok fair enough. I'm not gonna spam. Just trying to get lucky
silk fractal
does anyone know what's the most recent gameplay vod of archer(primary pov not one in your group for instance)
ruby swift
True. You are more likely to get responses tailored to what you are looking for in the right channels. Here you probably won't.
glad sleet
@silk fractal look up apoc vids
silk fractal
apoc doesn't look like current last 4k 2 hour vid gameplay at all
frigid edge
Has there been any ingame earnable skins teased yet or are all the skins revealed so far from the preorder packs?
earnest knoll
They have been confirmed but not sure if weve seen any yet
glad sleet
Not been revealed and likely they won’t be revealed. Steven said he wants us to discover stuff like that ourselves
frigid edge
Oh cool, I actually really like that.
silk fractal
how does the name reservation work exactly, on the wiki it sounds like if I buy the 375$ name pack, I'm basically not picking my name at the same time as everyone
like older backers get to pick their name first?
glad sleet
No - name reservation happens at the same time
silk fractal
Name reservations will be allocated from the highest backer tier to the lowest backer tier.[4]
Kickstarter backer tiers, highest to lowest.[5]
Summer crowdfunding backer tiers, highest to lowest.[5]
Pre-order packs purchased from the web store.[5]
Within each tier, the name reservations are on a first-come-first-served basis.
is this info from the wiki not factual?
glad sleet
Yeah, although name reservations happen at the same time - someone with PI will have higher dibs on name than a b2 player
reef osprey
@silk fractal it is factual
silk fractal
well then it's not the same time per say they'll have windows of time for each tier before pre-order from web stone can pick their name
reef osprey
@glacial sandal rename yourself, i always think steven is writing 
glacial sandal
I believe they open access to the alpha betas sequentially starting with the highest tier backers and then filtering down to the lower tiers
silk fractal
so my name might be picked on all the servers by the time it's my time to reserve
glad sleet
Yes
glacial sandal
alphas/betas*
silk fractal
I wonder how many accounts are in each tier above mine?
reef osprey
alpha 2 and beta should be given to all the eliglble players at the same time
as you can't have half the server on the alpha 1 content and the other on alpha 2
@silk fractal what's yours?
silk fractal
I'd be lowest tier from web store pre order
reef osprey
@silk fractal the 75 one?
silk fractal
you can only reserve name for 375$ currently
reef osprey
i'd guess somewhere around 10k people.
As 10k was the amount of a1 (500$) access the have given out
silk fractal
ouch that's a lot
reef osprey
@silk fractal but names are server specific, so i wouldn't mind too much
silk fractal
I wonder how many servers there'll be
reef osprey
are you EU?
viral ore
question will some races be better than others in crafting specific stuff?
silk fractal
prob more na backers tho right?
reef osprey
yeah, and most of them are on headstart servers.
If you dodge that server, then you'll be just fine
i'd say 70% NA, 30% not NA
silk fractal
what do you mean headstart servers?
glacial sandal
About 10k ahead of you @V assuming equal numbers NA/EU...counted total 19,140 backers on kickstarter
ah woops thats wrong
reef osprey
@viral ore there will be racial buffs,
we don't know what effect they will have yet.
Maybe they will be crafting related (i certainly think so), maybe they won't be
cobalt lance
Hey what stage of testing is the game in now?
glacial sandal
some of the packs dont get the name reservation
reef osprey
@cobalt lance pre alpha-1
cobalt lance
Sweet thanks
viral ore
ty warth
silk fractal
are all the na server going to be in cali like most mmos or there will be eastern servers like nyc/chicago?
glacial sandal
Not seeing any specific info about server locations on the wiki
silk fractal
yeah me neither
I'll ask the question on the forum
unless someone jumps in to let me know if they've said something about this already
wild marsh
I heard there's going to be a west and east coast servers, but it wasn't from an official source so I think that's speculation.
ruby swift
@reef osprey Name reservation was included in $100 and up KS/Summer packages. There are around 20k people with name reservation most likely before Intrepid packages.
There are multiple NA servers planned.
silk fractal
do you know how many servers there will be(an estimate)
will there be east and west coast servers?
boreal abyss
as many as needed, but no we dont
ruby swift
Intrepid does and will have a better idea from their metrics. <speculation> My guess is around 10-15 for launch.
@silk fractal You can pretty much guarantee east and west coast NA, possibly central. A0 testing was out of Ohio.
reef osprey
@silk fractal you can't predict how much the following will be upon launch
@ruby swift per major region?
silk fractal
also my other quest is how long will alpha 1 is planned to last versus the duration of alpha 2. Like is alpha 2 even worth getting. For instance for AA, the alpha lasted a long time, the beta lasted 2 weeks before launch. Is there any kind of info as how worth the money to get alpha 2 is compared to just getting beta 1/beta 2 for instance.
not asking for dates obviously that's unknown
@ruby swift okay that's good to know
ruby swift
There are no lengths given. They will be as long or short as needed.
silk fractal
so technically alpha 2 could be 2 weeks, then a few weeks of beta and launch
or it could last a whole year
0 info
?
reef osprey
Alpha 2 is supposed to be about as long as alpha 1
that was their original plan at least
ruby swift
They will move to the next phase or launch when the team has hit internal milestones. Steven has repeatedly said they have those timelines with 30% extra "padding" thrown in for what they believe is doable.
reef osprey
Long Alpha, Short beta will most likely be the same here
or is planned to be the same here*
sharp hare
Alpha-2 is the Persistent alpha.[1][2] This release is expected to include the following:
Tulnar race.[3]
Ships.[4]
Religions.[5]
Secondary classes.[6][7]
Emblem, logo and symbol editor (tentatively).[8]
ruby swift
All testing plans and quotes prior to March 2019 are scrapped. That is official.
silk fractal
yeah that's what I'm hoping for, it would just suck a lot if it ended up being like long ass alpha1 for 2 years, then 1 month of alpha 2 and 2 weeks of beta 1 and 2 for instance
sharp hare
Does not seem that it would be a short alpha
silk fractal
but I guess there's no info at all
wild marsh
Alpha 2 will be persistent versus beta and alpha 1 I believe. Meaning it will be open day and night, so even that being said it will be longer in lengths of time online I'm pretty sure.
glacial sandal
@silk fractal no doubt launch will likely be very far off from the alphas, weeks would be extremely fast, i'd expect more than a year
earnest knoll
Alpha 2 will give you access to the game until launch
silk fractal
yeah I'm like 99% gonna buy the pack on the 5th because I dislike the cosmetic but just trying to back myself and understand what I'm getting into
like for instance until I read the wiki I didn't think I'd be in a seperate pool for the name reservation
ruby swift
They all give you access to launch from A2 onwards. Possibly A1 towards the end. But realize they will take servers up and down and wipe as they feel the need. No amount of "but you said this!" will change that.
sharp hare
Also to more important questions, When will they announce new cosmetics for this month 😄 hopefully b4 the 5th when they swap them
silk fractal
which it's fine but they should 100% clarify that on the website sale part
ruby swift
@sharp hare They have in the past, but no guarantees.
silk fractal
well on the 31st they said soon but we're on the 2nd now and they swap on the 5th
sharp hare
Yh ive checked the dates with announcements sometimes its earlier sometimes its same day which why im conserned 😄
silk fractal
so maybe we don't get a showcase before
earnest knoll
@ruby swift I thought the betas were going to be short? not persistant like alpha 2?
sharp hare
Im going to upgrade my package but i need to see if i want the swamp or the future one 😛
ruby swift
@earnest knoll Those quotes are prior to March 2019 Creative Directors letter. We were told in PI meeting that telling you all using that as the metric is not under NDA. So adjust you information based off of that timepoint.
scarlet flower
whats your current package
sharp hare
150->250
ruby swift
Mine? You can click on my name to see tags
silk fractal
what's a PI meeting?
ruby swift
Phoenix Intiative. We have a monthly meeting that may contain NDA information.
The Phoenix initiative reward is an exclusive game instance in which certain players can enter. Think of it as a secret club, where you can socialize with other members. This area will not offer any “Pay to Win” functionality, it will simply offer what the world does in a more personal space. This is an area devs and GMs will often hang out there in their off time, and gives you a chance to interact with them in game!
earnest knoll
Ima be honest chief im not big brain enough to unpack that statement xD but thank you 😛
silk fractal
how much did you have to pay back then to be in that thing
ruby swift
PI is/was $2500
silk fractal
damn
reef osprey
@ruby swift i have heard that PI can teleport and deactivate the option of being attacked by other players,
is that true?
crystal beacon
Do u guys have a place where u post ur concept arts , i'm a huge fan of the style used and i would love to see some more arts
ruby swift
Untrue.
reef osprey
ruby swift
@crystal beacon The forum has a section for community creations. And they often feature them on FanArt Fridays on Twitter and other social media.
reef osprey
I have heard you can fly, summon steven with a flute and each of you owns a key, which used in conjunction will reset the Server @ruby swift
untrue as well?
crystal beacon
Thank you !
ruby swift
Yes, but we do have the ability to smack trolls. Sort of like summoning Captain Planet.
ruby swift
Stand very still, don't want the meteor to miss.
dusty pewter
Will there be any type of respec system or would choices be permanent and we have to roll a new toon
wild marsh
wheat hamlet
Hi guys, have Steven and the team ever commented on how they decided on the pricing for the access keys?
ruby swift
There is a respec system. Just not on the fly. Will need to be done in town or at a freehold. We have no info on free or cost.
boreal abyss
@dusty pewter can only respec 2nd archetype, will take time tho
reef osprey
@dusty pewter there is a respecc system plannend for skillpoints and secondary archetypes
not so much for primary
ruby swift
As in game currency cost. Not IRL money.
molten garnet
Anyone got any info on getting killed by those mobs in the dungeon? or can you just run past everything like they do in the gameplay videos they show?
ruby swift
Yes, I meant for skill points.You cannot respec primary archetype.
dusty pewter
Right, So that was the question, it would be nice to roll like high priest but then switch it up and go necro or soul weaver ect.
ruby swift
@molten garnet Those mobs are placeholder.
boreal abyss
@dusty pewter yh you will be able to test 2ndary archetype combos on 1 toon 🙂
ruby swift
They will not be those at launch and will not act like those. In addition as the node levels up the mobs inside various dungeons may change.
dusty pewter
Nice ok it would be kinda doodoo having to make multiple toons to play around with combos lol
wheat hamlet
How much does alpha access cost?
ruby swift
The current packages offer A2 access for $250 and $375
reef osprey
250 for Alpha 2
currently unavailable for Alpha 1
wheat hamlet
Have they ever said why so expensive?
scarlet flower
Alpha 2 being end of 2020?
reef osprey
Alpha 1 end of 2020
wheat hamlet
Only to get people that really want it or something?
dusty pewter
No, it's more of a dedication thing
Game is only sub base, you're just paying for time/cosmetics in advanced and supporting the devs
wheat hamlet
Oh so you get sub time with it?
still quartz
Ye
earnest knoll
the 250 comes with 6months i believe
ruby swift
Yes, becuase they want those who are testing to be serious and not the common, "I am gonna cheese this beta key so I can see what the game is for free." These are true alphas and betas in the western sense. Buggy and half done systems. Not some functioning eastern port lacking localization to be sold as early access. High barrier to entry weeds out those casual.
reef osprey
@wheat hamlet
the 250 package gives you
90 worth of game time
100 worth of store credits
you essentially pay 60 for the entire cosmetic set and the alpha 2 access
silk fractal
you get a big part of your money back in sub and embers
reef osprey
so even on a value basis, you are off pretty nicely @wheat hamlet
wheat hamlet
Ok thanks for the answers
silk fractal
I hope cosmetics this months are insanely cool
wheat hamlet
Will there be limited items that are only obtainable by getting an alpha key?
sharp hare
Alpha 1 has almost 30 huge features thats need to be tested i doubt they will manage to get it done by end of the year 😦
ruby swift
No. No p2w in ashes
wheat hamlet
I mean cosmetic
silk fractal
yes there's a lot you already missed
silk fractal
apparently there will be a variation close to it ingame tho it could be colour change and whatnot but we'll see about that
sharp hare
To anyone i think
ruby swift
There may be small cosmetics that are given for participating in different testing phases. For example the covid statue. But nothing like mounts or armor has ever been give out so far.
silk fractal
well except the swamp stuff that is for sale rn @sharp hare
wheat hamlet
I find that slightly odd I guess, because on one hand Steven says don't pay till you see the product but equally there's limited edition items on offer for early purchasers?
sharp hare
Yh
ruby swift
Limited cosmetics.
wheat hamlet
Seems juxtaposed
silk fractal
purely cosmetics tho
wheat hamlet
Haha
ruby swift
If you doubt, wait it out
wheat hamlet
I don't know he acknowledged how people have been let down by other games before and said don't spend till you see that's all
But each to their own
silk fractal
tbf this is only the thing you really missed : https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Corvid_Castigator
ruby swift
Yep, it is a choice.
molten garnet
@ruby swift thats good to hear they are just palce holders, im interested in seeing real world difficulty fights
ruby swift
They don't want to spoil launch. Many things will be placeholder up until the betas. Sadly that is when most of the content testing will be for quests and such and there is no real way to make sure they are not broken without sneak peeks. Writing a whole set of dummy quests, inserting them into the client, and ripping them out to be replaced would be a nightmare.
dusky adder
And considering there is no NDA
I believe you just aren't allowed to take any pictures and show? Dunno if that's the case for the betas
burnt island
A lot of YT commentators are keying on the word that SS often uses "contest" (as in two groups "contesting" for a spawn dungeon room)and assuming this to be an actual game mechanic. This is incorrect, yes?
reef osprey
@ruby swift there are some "explorative" professions like Animal Husbandry
that are based on a lot of trial and error.
I'd really appreciate it, if that part wasn't in the game at all until launch, so it would be all new and people have to figure it out in a community effort
I guess that's wishful thinking though?
or could that realistically happen?
dusky adder
Always a possibility
ruby swift
Right now testing is under a full NDA except when specific portions are released by Steven. For example, people that participated in Alpha Zero can freely discuss it, just no visuals. The same is for other portions of testing he has released from NDA. The actual A1 and following will NOT be under NDA once released.
@reef osprey It will be tested. Last thing they want is to live launch and find out a whole subsystem like taming or breeding is broken or exploitable.
reef osprey
yeah, thats what i figured
scarlet flower
So I can start with the 75$ pack and overtime upgrade to the 250$ pack by the time alpha 2 comes
reef osprey
explorative system just don'T make a whole of sense if you get a guide for everything by launch day anyway
dusky adder
Wish there was more info about certain professions: like scribing. It grabbed me right away but we have no idea what use it could have.
reef osprey
@scarlet flower yes
but you could also just wait till there is a cosmetic set you really like, so you can have the entire set
random trench
Q: Will it be possible to level up your PC with gathering/carfting? Will those activitivites reward a substantial ammount of XP?
ruby swift
@burnt island It is not an official mechanic, more of how mmos describe the natural conflict that occurs over set spots in the game that give the best time/benefit. Those that are there first fight with those that come later. Thus contested.
magic geyser
Is there a place where I can see in more details the cosmetics for this month ? The images on the shop are so small
sharp hare
Im not sure about if you can upgrade it anymore once it gets closer to A2, they might remove it due to player limit reached or something like that but not sure
ruby swift
@random trench We don't know yet. For example, the May/June tests only gave exp for pve kills, nothing for pvp that I saw.
hollow wraith
Do you guys know if they plan to adjust the prices for different regions? I'm from brazil and want to buy the 75 dollars pack but its like paying 400 in our currency
burnt island
@ruby swift That's what I thought. Unfortunately, most of the people commenting on it are interpreting it as some sort of voluntary "throw down the guantlet" type PvP
dusky adder
They have confirmed that > Do you guys know if they plan to adjust the prices for different regions? I'm from brazil and want to buy the 75 dollars pack but its like paying 400 in our currency
@hollow wraith
ruby swift
@hollow wraith They plan price harmonization for regions that they think need it. However, those taking part in harmonization will be region locked to that harmonized region. Will occur after launch. Not before.
reef osprey
@burnt island it's not voluntary, if the other group wants to attack you, they can
they will be punished through corruption, but the option is there
@random trench lvling through it is currently not in the game, but Steven mentioned, that there will be EXP from it.
The scale and how realistic it is to so is unknown though
will probably be a balancing act
random trench
@ruby swift Thank you. I was thinking something like Guild Wars 2 where the ammount of XP given by crafting is substantial. I'd like the possibility to level up mostly by crafting/gathering.
burnt island
@reef osprey If you fight back to hold your spot, they won't get corruption
hollow wraith
Thank u guys
random trench
@reef osprey thank you
reef osprey
@burnt island if both sides fight, nobody will get corrupted, whether you are the attacker or the defender
you only get corruption from people who don't fight back
ruby swift
@random trench Could be, we haven't seen crafting in the tests yet, just some basic gathering
So......Unknown
Going to go get some dinner. Have fun.
burnt island
@reef osprey Yes, I am aware of that. What happens if only one person in the attacked group doesn't fight back? Then the attacking group goes red and the defending group stays blue?
ruby swift
It is killing blow. Was heading out the door.
reef osprey
@ruby swift would have to confirm me on that, but
A group flags seperately (if you buff, heal... a flagged person then you also flag)
Currently, only the killing blow awards corruption (which might be very well changed in the future, in case there is abuse of this system)
grizzled latch
If someone lands a killing blow on someone not flagged for combat they get corruption
burnt island
So, therefore, you could get someone down to a sliver of heath, then train a mob on them and get away scott free ?
grizzled latch
I assume it will change though because getting someone to like 5% hp and letting them die to an mob will happen im sure
reef osprey
@burnt island this will be looked at if there is room for abuse in game.
I guess it will end up in a way that awards you Corruption even if the pve mob finishes the job
burnt island
Ok. Sounds like the system needs a lot of testing
grizzled latch
Pure speculation here but I would guess it will eventually turn into something like if they do some % of damage to you then there is a timer and if you die in that timer they would get corruption.
reef osprey
@grizzled latch feels realistic yes
kindred stag
I've looked into https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Servers#Server_transfers to see what was plan in case of server merging but couldn't find any information about that (if 2 servers have to merge together due to lack of population). However I remember that someone asked them this question during a stream, do you remember what they said ?
grizzled latch
They will encourage players to migrate themselves
reef osprey
@kindred stag they will try to avoid it as much as possible through better handling at launch (prefering longer queues over low server populations)
and look into how to best approach the server pop issue
kindred stag
If it's free I understand, but what if that's not free, what will they do ?
grizzled latch
Due to the node system there isn't really an option to merge servers without a large amount of player pain.
fading oasis
Steven said they are still working it out but most likely one server would need to be chosen as the main server and keep the nodes and everyone merges to it. It was in the recent AMA
kindred stag
Thanks all, I guess I'll rewatch the AMA again
reef osprey
@fading oasis i'd assume that a low pvp server would merge into medium-high (but not full) server
and the medium-high will be kept
even though that's also a shit solution
fading oasis
Something along those lines yes. Server merges are almost always bad, so they will try to avoid them but you never know. It's a question that needs an answer but only becomes important further down the line imo
oak depot
Question - is there a tracker anywhere for Steven or other official developer posts/tweets/discord messages/etc?
grizzled latch
The wiki has alot of quotes from him, but not all of them
oak depot
I mean chronologically organized so I can catch up when I am away for a day for example
grizzled latch
He's on too many platforms for that i think. He was on twitch earlier for awhile
oak depot
I mean you can make an aggregator across all platforms that run once an hour .. just was expecting someone already did
drowsy prairie
how long will the Voyager plus pre order pack be available for, is it time limited?
oak depot
@drowsy prairie they will tell us when it s going away with time to spare. Currently no deadline
grizzled latch
They will announce when it will end closer to that time but probably a week or more warning before it goes away
drowsy prairie
ok thanks
reef osprey
@grizzled latch probably more than a week. I'd assume that they will mention it in the monthly development update of the previous month.
Same way they did with the 500$ alpha 1 pack
crystal beacon
If you buy a 250 pack do you get a discount for the next one?
ruby swift
You only pay the difference to upgrade. And you can purchase cosmetics at your current packs tier or lower individually each month after. They usually run $5-25 apiece
grizzled latch
I just meant a week as the minimum, a month is more likely
crystal beacon
That's cool
hollow prairie
If you buy a pack in shop do you get access to the game currently or have to wait?
ruby swift
Currently going into A1, there are no packages that give A1 access currently
reef osprey
@hollow prairie
the highest currently is A2 for $ 250.
That would give access to Alpha 2 in about a year or so
scarlet flower
So I am watching the 4k gameplay vod, and I'm wandering how does the tartgeting work?
Do you clikc on the target with the cursor or is it automatically picked or something?
digital aspen
You can click or press tab, i believe
wary flax
Is it possible to change your profile name on the AshesOfCreation website? If not, is that something which will be implemented in the future?
ruby swift
Your profile name is linked to your account name. It can be changed by customer service for a good reason. Usually not "I don't like it anymore!"
wary flax
Ok, thanks
hardy crystal
AoC combat is tab target/skill shot hybrid correct ? with 75% of skills to either type, or wise versa ?
ruby swift
Current plan yes. Will undergo further iteration and changes.
@simple ether has woken up. Will tag out. He will answer all your questions in the shining light of the Sandal Lord.
hahahah...the Prophet has abandoned us. All lament. Cause I am going to go afk.
idle spoke
I haven't really been actively looking around for information about ashes for a year or two now, watched the recent interview and a couple of streams but I can't recall this "issue" being brought up.
I just want to know if they have said anything about working on animations?
Some spells of the caster archetype has a lot of sparks flying around when they cast abilities, thick smoke from the meteors and very bright red lights on top of that and its hard to see and feels like it clutters the screen a bit. If you can see all your friends animations, it will be very messy. Then there's the movement which looks very stiff in the recent videos 👀
earnest knoll
@idle spoke in the most recent livestream they talked about scaling options for particles i beileve
deep raptor
So I just watched Asmongolds video on ''Ashes of Creation Gameplay & Development Update'' And as it says in the Development update, you are talking about higher grade herbs and gathering, and I was kind of thinking if it would work in a like a WoW way, where you just need to gather enough herbs to get to the high end herbs, where you kind of feel like its just meh since there is enough herbs to everyone so its not really rare to find anything or its not hard to get it since you don't need any gear. You talked about gear for gathers and crafters, I believe, and I feel like that's a good way to go like in FFXIV where crafting and gathering is its own thing for people like myself that don't like dungeons and raids a lot, but more chilling around with people and crafting or gathering while I do so.
So my question is probably if there will be gear for crafters and gathers and will there be legendary herbs, maybe? or will it kind of go down the retail WoW where there is enough for everyone? or will it be more like FFXIV where you need to upgrade your gear enough to gather it, after you have unlocked that you can gather the special herb in a special way?
earnest knoll
Also all animations and art are subject to iteration and improvement
idle spoke
That's nice to hear, thank you
earnest knoll
@deep raptor from what I've seen/heard you will need to progress through your professions skill tree and have better tools to be able to gather the higher end materials, there's some info about that system here that might be useful for you https://www.ashes101.com/artisan
deep raptor
@earnest knoll Thank you very much 
empty dragon
I still don't understand how the augmention works
full badger
@empty dragon What don't you understand?
full badger
Augments change the nature of your base class abilities
empty dragon
and that means?
if I choose rogue as main class and summoner as second class, will I become like the main character in SOLO LEVELING?
full badger
A fighter's charge ability, when augmented with a mage secondary, will teleport to the target instantly instead of running at them
full badger
You choose which skills you wish to augment
We don't know many more details than that right now
empty dragon
I can choose? Nice but still weird
full badger
@empty dragon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Augments here, this explains it better
empty dragon
If it's like that then that means if my main class is rogue und my second is ranger and it augments my skill and suddenly I am able to shoot my daggers?
reef osprey
@deep raptor yes there will be tools/gear for crafters, that are required to get higher quality resources.
The location of resources will change over time, which creates local supplies and demands differences. It could happen, that the Iron Ore you need is mostly found in another, far distant part of the map at the current time, which will require you to travel there, gather enough of it (and possibly ship it back to your node/freehold through the caravan system.
There will also be very rare resources, you might need a lot of dedication to find.
Spawns are supposed to be dynamique, so there just be a "map of node locations" for you to get.
It's inspired by the crafting and gathering system of Star Wars Galaxies, which was, hands down, the best system I have encountered in an MMO ever. Another feature it entailed was resource quality, which means that a piece of iron ore differes from another in terms of quality and flexible crafting recipes, where all the resources have certain attributes and belong to certain categories. Which allowed you to exchange a certain material for another in the same category within your crafting recipe. Depending on which of the materials within the category you used, the stats of the item you produced could change.
@deep raptor the crafting system is inspired by the crafting system of SWG, how much of the systems will be taken over into Ashes, we do not know. But reading up on the system there might give you a decent idea of what the Ashes of Creation profession system could be like
full badger
@empty dragon Your guess is as good as ours right now. We haven't been given a list of augments available to each class yet
reef osprey
@empty dragon not necessairly
but for example you could get the poisons you'd use as an assassin to coat your arrows with, or your backjump might be followed by a short-term stealth.
your traps, instead of just snaring, might also make them bleed, to combo with other of your augmented abilities etc.
just to give you an Idea
ocean forum
do we already know about the rarities of items in ashes? will it be like grey for common items to purple or gold for super rare ones?
reef osprey
@ocean forum items will have different rarities, we dont know the color scheme though
ocean forum
alright! ty! 🙂
deep raptor
@reef osprey Alright thank you
reef osprey
@ocean forum maybe the color scheme is wow oriented, but i'd assume that it would orient itself on one of the games Steven heavily played
L2, AA etc.
This would be Archeage for example:
earnest knoll
That red hurts my eyes xD
ocean forum
oooh that´d be cool 😄 I somehow like the variety of rarities!
daring thicket
Will the combat/camera system be similar to WoW or will there be an option to be similar to ESO?
crystal beacon
Yeah that red has to change 👀
reef osprey
@earnest knoll that pain of looking at that red signifies the pain your enemies will feel when you hit them with it
oak depot
Hm.. so you can search for all posts by a specific user in a specific channel to keep up to date on developer posts
now need to write a bot to do it
for example: from: Steven#8582 in: questions as a search (upper right of discord) will give all reverse-chronological posts by Steven in Questions channel
swift spindle
What mechanics and systems are in place to prevent a large group of players from dominating an entire area and being toxic to everyone who isn't them? - Question from a friend
shell wing
@empty dragon https://www.ashes101.com/classes
reef osprey
@oak depot remove the parameter in what channel, and just look at all the channels
most discussions with steven happen in aoc-discussion
@swift spindle toxic in what way?
lethal rapids
Will there be a Hardcore PVP server type? No PVP corruption system, no Bounty Hunter system etc.
vernal swallow
How many characters can we play per account? (Not Multiboxing)
reef osprey
@lethal rapids nothing along these lines have been mentioned
we just know that there won't be a PVE server
harder rules might be a thing, but i wouldn't not expect it to be
crystal flax
@vernal swallow If you mean how many alts can you have, they've said "a comfortable amount", most people guess 8 since that's the base archetype amount
reef osprey
@vernal swallow unconfirmed, but " a comfortable amount" according to IS
vernal swallow
@vernal swallow If you mean how many alts can you have, they've said "a comfortable amount", most people guess 8 since that's the base archetype amount
@crystal flax
Oh that's cool. I thought it was just an alpha only feature.
earnest knoll
@swift spindle Remember that if they want to progress their node they are going to need resources, hard to do if you've made enemies of all your neighbours and no one wants to trade or help you
oak depot
@reef osprey sure... changed it to from: Steven#8582 after: 2020-07-31 to get all weekend updates
but now need to write a bot for all AoC devs, not just steven
and aggregate it
tulip ember
As far as guild creation goes, will symbols or numbers be allowed in the name
crystal beacon
I have a question
So we saw ashes of creation pvp in an arena type of thing
Ashes of creation apocalypse was it i think
Why does that look so different than the ingame gameplay
While it is essentially the same game
tulip ember
Its a way to test systems
crystal flax
Because it's entirely "action combat" as opposed to tab/hybrid
crystal beacon
So we will rather get the 2nd approach
But also the animations and everything
It was way more fluent imo
crystal flax
Right, final MMO will be hybrid of tab/action, or they'll fall back to tab if they can't get it to work as well as they'd like
tulip ember
75%/25% tab/action or action/tab, its up to you
crystal beacon
Also regarding this
It seems they have completely changed the effects
And especially the pacing
The final game goes towards that pacing though? Right?
half apex
TBH You can chose how many % on each side, but neither of then can be higher then 75%
short coral
They haven't and stated the combat system will be added to alpha that was in apocalypse for testing
crystal beacon
Will there be an nda on alpha 1?
crystal flax
Not when it's fully live
crystal beacon
Kk lets wait then
crystal flax
short coral
Pretty sure you are also looking at lvl10 characters in testing vs some full abilities and locked screen in apocalypse
And Alpha will have a level cap from what I understand
crystal beacon
Yes i am most interested about the pacing of the combat
The combat in the gameplays so far except apocalypse were horrendous
😂
So we can expect videos and livestreams of alpha 1?
crystal flax
That just means the phases sold during it won't be under NDA, not that it's exclusive to the people who bought KS
So, since A1 was sold through KS, no NDA
woven vale
What about those who got the $500 pack as that isn't KS I believe.
crystal flax
Again, it's not about the type of package you own
A1 was something sold during KS, so as a whole A1 will not have an NDA
woven vale
Alright, ty.
reef osprey
imagine being banned for streaming it, jsut because you got it as a summer backer instead of kickstarter
onyx knoll
Alpha 1 will level cap at lvl 20
dawn mango
In the recent livestream they mentioned 5 class pages corresponding to the playable classes on alpha. Any idea when those might be available?
onyx knoll
Alpha 2 will have a level cap that increases over time until they reach max
@dawn mango When alpha 1 launches in fall the available archetypes (they misspoke, it's archetypes not classes) will be tank, cleric, mage, ranger and the 5th one i'm not 100% sure it might be fighter or rogue, but I think fighter. They will then add in the rest of the archetypes as time goes until all 8 are available
dawn mango
Thanks!
tulip ember
A2 is all that you can get atm
onyx knoll
No, kickstarter closed in 2017
crystal flax
Only the shop packs
onyx knoll
😛
foggy python
Did the Braver of worlds ($500) pack get into testing yet? Or only the 1000+ packs?
proven oracle
Anyone have a time machine??
onyx knoll
@foggy python Neither, the 1000$ (Leader of Men) pack owners will get a weekend soon but I don't think it's happened yet
foggy python
Oh I thought they already did. Thank you
crystal beacon
Will oracle be playable alpha 1?
onyx knoll
Well I'm not a Leader of Men pack owner so I can't say for certain, and since they'll be on an NDA they can't tell us either but i'm fairly sure based on one thing alone; Leader of men pack owners coming here in the last few days to ask if it's normal that they hadn't gotten any emails about it yet 😂
@crystal beacon The secondary will become available in alpha 2, you won't have ay full class in A1, only the primary
so, no
eternal palm
Will there any any Ranger-variation with animal-companion pets, other than a summoner having a summons?
reef osprey
@eternal palm falconer might be your best best, judging from the name
eternal palm
So the summoner one ;P
wet yew
Is there a way i can reserve a guild name?
crystal beacon
Summoner wont be in a1?
Also i doubt guild reserve
Character reserve is in packs tho
onyx knoll
Falconer will most likely not have a permanent animal companion from how we understand how secondary work. Since they don't give you any new skills but only enhance existing skill from your primary, chances are ranger/summoner will be something like; when you use an ability a falcon swoops down for extra stuff, but if you want a permantn animal companion you'll most likely need to go summoner/ranger. That being said the amount of information on summoner and secondary is very limited atm so it's hard to say for sure. We'll know more in alpha 2 @eternal palm
@wet yew Not currently
@crystal beacon Summoner and Bard won't be in A1 initially but they'll be added eventually
wet yew
Ok epic thanks!
crystal beacon
eternal palm
Yea it seems like most of my questions we just dont know yet 😅
crystal beacon
Summoner is the biggest hype for me
onyx knoll
The game is still in very early stages ^^'
crystal beacon
I mean, the core functions are there already
onyx knoll
we know the general ideas and directions but anything specific is still very much up to change
eternal palm
I wish asmon didn't watch a video till it was about to come out ;P
onyx knoll
But being here early means you can influence the direction of the game through constructive criticism and idea sharing! 😄
crystal beacon
Can yall answer me if nodes can all inhibit cities?
So theoretically having 102guilds
sterile fjord
Does someone know if the game is programmed server sidet to go against hackers and stuff like that ?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon Not sure I understand your question, sorry
crystal beacon
Hmm wait. So we have 102 nodes
onyx knoll
103, + 5 castle nodes, but yes
crystal beacon
Can one node inhibit more than one guild?
knotty valley
When will the next monthly batch of cosmetics show uo on the shop?
crystal beacon
Oh wait, i think it is inhabir
knotty valley
Ah, thanks
onyx knoll
You mean can more then one guild live in a node?
crystal beacon
Yeah
knotty valley
Inhibit means to impede
onyx knoll
then yes, there are no restrictions on who can buy housing in a node. The nodes are controlled by individuals, not guilds
knotty valley
Many guilds can live there, but i imagine the largest Guild will dominate and have a mayor
crystal beacon
Can only royal mounts fly? And can each guild leader have royal mounts?
pine mirage
and what is controlled by guilds?
swift spindle
What's to stop a bunch of people from rigging the champion arena for Military Node Mayor? - Friend asked
stable plover
@pine mirage Castles / guild halls are controlled by guilds
pine mirage
ty
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon Yes Royal mounts are the only ones that can fly, no not every guild leader will have one, only the ones that are kings/queens of castle nodes, as well as any individual who is mayor of a rank 6 node (metropolis). You can also very rarely find ones as drops from legendary world bosses
crystal beacon
I see thank you very much
onyx knoll
@swift spindle technically nothing as far as I know. If you have enough people to totally fill up a military node arena you could arrange that everyone lets 1 person win
crystal beacon
Will there be a chance that this may be changed in the future?
onyx knoll
I don't think so
crystal beacon
I think many people would like flying mounts
onyx knoll
They're pretty set on that rarity aspect
onyx knoll
It's a goal to work towards 😛
pine mirage
good ... love this idea regarding flying :) similar to old L2 and Wyverns
crystal beacon
True but also very hard to get
onyx knoll
That's what makes them valuable ^^
stable plover
@crystal beacon non-royals can get gliding mounts (that only go down), note that the flying is going to be more limited even for the royals than what's shown in the dev videos, for example requiring a launch point, of which worlds seem to cap out at 10
crystal beacon
ohhh
That is cool
That is enough for me
@stable plover may i ask you with how many mounts we can calculate
The order is enough too
crystal beacon
Tens, hundreds, thousands
onyx knoll
Oh you mean how many royal mounts there would be on one server?
or how many mounts in general?
crystal beacon
No general mounts
pallid horizon
we are in Alpha, so who know
onyx knoll
You can breed them together to create new variations
crystal beacon
I want something very furry and cute
onyx knoll
There will be an almost infinite amount of variations as far as I understand
crystal beacon
royal fulcrum
I think animal husbandry will be able to breed different type of creatures to make different mounts.
onyx knoll
^
crystal beacon
Thatd be enough of my questions then, thank you all for taking your time
nimble charm
Will NPC guards prevent in-node (town) PvP?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon keep an eye out for the pre-order pack skins, there are some very fluffy and cute mount skins that pop up from time to time 😛 this guy for exemple: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Stuffertons
@nimble charm NPC guards will attack red (corrupted) players on sight, but won't prevent purple VS purple pvp in town
nimble charm
Hmm
onyx knoll
Steven said there will be almost no safe areas in the world. I believe atm the only known safe zone is inside your own freehold or instanced housing (apartments)
chrome bison
Hello boys so what is the deal with my.com? I've read on reddit that we will be getting some updates about it, is that true?
onyx knoll
do you mean what's the deal with not being about to buy anything on their site atm?
or what's the deal in general
onyx knoll
I'm not aware of any kind of follow ups on that, we'll try to keep an eye out 🙂
tulip hatch
Intrepid is investigating into the matter of packs not being purchasable from their end
Not much information has been provided
We only know that we will be getting an update from intrepid soon
no exact date/timeframe
chrome bison
Alrighty, thanks! Here I was hoping to learn about some changes, and a possible new publisher. A shame
dreamy portal
So question I haven’t seen much gameplay but am curious about the camera system. Will the camera be a locked camera like how it is in wow and other mmos or will it be a click and drag camera kinda how asterneers is?
tulip hatch
Both ways are available in the current testing sessions
Additional camera settings will be implemented
dreamy portal
So I have the option to play as if I’m playing wow or click and drag it isn’t a set and stone I am forced to use one or the other? If this is the case I’m very happy and will be purchasing the voyager pack ASAP lmfao
royal fulcrum
I just want the keybinding system to be great
dreamy portal
The key binding system looks like Albion online and I’m very excited being I played for 5 years
Or I guess I should say ability system
tulip hatch
Im not very familiar with wows camera system, will have to get back to you after i see it myself
dreamy portal
Thank you
I just am curious about set camera angles is all alluring but thanks for answering my question
sterile fjord
Does someone know if the game is programmed server sidet to go against hackers and stuff like that ?
versed delta
Does multi boxing mean my wife can play with me on another character on a single account?
somber basalt
At the same time on the same account, no
royal fulcrum
Separate accounts at the same time
versed delta
Then I must not understand multiboxing
tiny bridge
It's about one person controling many characters
leaden fractal
The current cosmetic pack runs out on 15th July, roughly when have they been updating the cosmetic packages? Like will we know before this 1 ends what the next 1 will be?
somber basalt
Multiboxing is usually understood as playing multiple characters from multiple accounts on the same computer
heavy pier
multi = multiple. box = windows. playing mulriple characters as one person at same time.
somber basalt
Controlled by one person, and often with 3rd party software being used to sync up the actions
versed delta
But... it says that Stephen is cool with different PCs. So, that means just two accounts in one home. How could they ban that?
somber basalt
I don't think they're planning to with their current stance towards it. But they did ask for community feedback on their current stance on the forums.
You would potentially lock out people that live together from playing together if you did that.
heavy pier
When people bring up debates for multiboxing its usually in the light of an 'unfair advantage'
So no, you and your wife are fine
versed delta
So, playing on two PCs on two accounts in the same home is not multiboxing?
heavy pier
No thats being a gamer
royal fulcrum
No it is not.
Multiboxing would be playing on threee accounts on the same PC at the same time.
frigid plover
Two questions, 1. Will there be class cosmetics? (Skills, spells and abilities) and 2. Any word on the balancing between "solo" characters and group players? Will there be some kind of bonus or incentive to do group content?
somber basalt
Not sure on class specific cosmetics, but balance will be done around the group not around the individual. As for incentives, there is content that is only possible to conquer in a group.
reef osprey
@sterile fjord isn't it industry standard by now to track and log everything every single player on the server does at all times? I assume its connected to that
pretty sure it is, at least it should be
night yacht
I believe the use of anti-cheat software was mentioned in an ama
molten garnet
I got a question, I'm in Eu and I'm wondering if there is a different A1 sign up from NA?
heavy pier
Is there any difference to leveling Fighter/Mage over Mage/Fighter to become 'battlemage'? Think FFXI for example. Will the abilties or strength of them be different?
reef osprey
@molten garnet no, currently you go through the Intrepid website, same way as NA
somber basalt
The abilities will be completely different
reef osprey
@heavy pier yes
figher/mage, you will be primarily a figher, with mage augments
mage/fighter, you will be primarily a mage, with fighter augments
heavy pier
gotcha, ty
pseudo spade
is there a reliable place to find a roadmap? looking for the ETA on Alpha 1 start
reef osprey
@pseudo spade alpha 1 still has projected to be by end of this year
pseudo spade
okay thank you @reef osprey !
silk fractal
alright so there's a multitude of weapons in aoc does it change how a skill works or for instance if you pick ranger, you'll need to use a bow to use your skills? so for instance a halberd would be used by melee classes and so on? wouldn't that push the devs to have to make different animations for each weapons on top of different animations for the 64 classes(for the skills that have different vfx)?? is this something steven has spoken about?
severe cloud
do we know if we will be able to put spaces or - in character names or if is going to be 1 word? or if we can put uppercase in the name besides the first letter?
stable plover
@silk fractal Any class can use any weapon, some skills will work with any weapon (as long as it's correct between melee/ranged, everyone has slots for both) some skills at least in testing require a particular kind of weapon, but you could just ignore the skills existence and use something else (not recommended for current ranger to avoid bows)
crystal beacon
How does voting work in respects to alts ? What stops me from creating multiple characters on the same server / same node ( same account. NOT a multi boxing question ) ?
stable plover
@severe cloud There's a built in optional last name system, you choose if your first or last name appears above character
severe cloud
@stable plover besides the last name. the name i will decide upon character creation. since there will be a last name i assume the first name will be 1 word with no spaces or -? Could i use multiple capital letters in that name?
silk fractal
are the stats on the weapon limiting as well? @stable plover
ruby swift
@severe cloud https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Character_naming
silk fractal
because like saying hey your mage can use a halberd and that wouldn't really stop you from casting spells
but if the halberd gives str instead of int
it's not a choice that would make much sense for instance
by that I'm trying to figure out if it's really a "we let you use any weapons" but really based on X class you should use one of these
severe cloud
@ruby swift yeah i read that but there is no info about that so far. i assume we don't know more yet
reef osprey
@crystal beacon 1: voting is only a thing in scientific nodes, you can't vote on the mayor in other node types
B: there will be 100s of players in a node, even thousands in a higher node type, a single second vote from you wouldn't matter too much
C: you nee dot be citizen of the same node with your alt. Becoming citizen requires an apartment. Apartment are limited and increase on cost for every citizen there is in the city
stable plover
@silk fractal There will be stats on weapons, and you should use the stats correct for your character, Swords might come in both spellcasting and physical damage variants
reef osprey
@silk fractal it doesn't really make sense to limit it by primary archetype
as there can be magic halberds that give you intelligence and wisdom.
Especially when you choose to become a battle mage, that might become one of your preferred weapons, while you wouldn't know what to do with it when playing a Mage/Ranger
forest trellis
is there a official release date for the game or beta?
raw gyro
Will their be a system similiar to Transmorgification in WoW? I know theirs the costume sets you can get from the cash shop. But i'm more wondering if we'll be able to use random pieces of armor we've gathered that aren't in a 'cosmetic'
full scroll
Has there been a confirmed sub cost for the game?
worthy holly
@forest trellis all we know so far is that alpha 1 is coming this fall. Most people seem to think** the game is two years from completion.
@full scroll solid the sub is $15. No box cost
full scroll
So in EU it would be 13 euros probably?
worthy holly
They are localizing prices so idk. EU would still be pretty close I'd bet
full scroll
Should be around that then
worthy holly
@raw gyro "Gear will have appearance slots (Transmutation/Transmog/cosmetic slots) that are used to copy the appearance of an item (in some cases)."
raw gyro
@worthy holly awesome that's good to know. alot of the times i prefer the standard armor over special cosmetic items. wierd taste in armor i guess lol
reef osprey
@full scroll that makes sense
The pack prices are 150$ and 130€
so your estimate would fit perfectly
worthy holly
@raw gyro I'm right there with ya brother. If you want more info check out this link: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gear_appearance
raw gyro
@worthy holly oh nice! thanks for link. didn't spot it myself, thanks for help.
crystal beacon
eu will be around 13€ if they keep the same prices
worthy holly
👍 👍
crystal beacon
would be unfair if it is 15 euros
or 16 at that
What's the monthly BTC cost ? 😛
chrome bison
Is there a possibility to buy a lifetime sub package on kickstarter please?
fierce cloak
Does anyone know if an AoC account can be recalled by your Kickstarter account if the email you registered with gets compromised?
desert ivy
@chrome bison Unless you already backed the kickstarter in 2017, no, you can't back the kickstarter anymore
chrome bison
@desert ivy I see, thanks
unreal cove
When they talk about changing cosmetics in the packs - do you get the ones from initial 'preorder' + future ones for same pack, or does it depend on when you paid?
high whale
@fierce cloak Contact the support I'm sure they will find a solution
Note that they're swamped with support tickets these last few days
reef osprey
@chrome bison no can't buy that naymore
full scroll
If I click my spells with my mouse can I still play this game?
eternal glade
Somebody probably answered that already but can you have two weapons equipped at the same time? If I'm a ranger and I equip a bow, I would find it very cool to also have a two handed sword for smacking people from melee range
reef osprey
@unreal cove you only get those from the current pack you buy;
you can buy future cosmetics piece by piece though if they interested you
royal fulcrum
@eternal glade I believe you'll have to because there is a minimum distance at which you can shoot your bow.
crystal beacon
@eternal glade wouldn't you prefer a bow-sword ? A curved sword able to shoot arrows and play music ?
royal fulcrum
or some other melee weapon.....or be REALLY good at kiting. lol
junior pagoda
I just hope combat is awesome when it is finished
eternal glade
Yea I was just saying some weapons may be better than others but thanks for the answers, the minimum range with bows is really cool as a mechanic in the game
eternal glade
Thanks cool ill look it up, ranger interests me and the idea that i could go either bard for a support/dps or like fighter for a melee style hunter really sparks my mind
flat plume
I was curious i saw that the voyager packs and such say they wont be available again once they leave, when do they rotate the packs?
green egret
Aug 5 at 11am PST
forest trellis
will guilds exist in ashes of creation and how will they effect nodes then?
flat plume
Do they show the new stuff ahead of time or nah?
green egret
They said they probably would on last dev update
neon rapids
Oh dang the packs are gonna change? I just went all in on one -__-
forest trellis
will guilds exist in ashes of creation and how will they effect nodes then?
kindred stag
@forest trellis https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guilds
tranquil willow
reef osprey
@forest trellis guilds don't have any direct effects on nodes 🙂
guilds do exist though with their content, like guild wars, progression path, castle sieges and so on
stable plover
@forest trellis Guilds will exist, with memberships from 30-50 to 300 people, if a guild spends it's talent points on size increases instead of other stuff, Alliance of up to 4 guilds exist, the guild that contributes the most to a node can become it's patron, see https://www.aocwiki.net/Patron_guilds for details on that - Normal nodes aren't terribly affected by guilds, the patron perks are mainly the node affecting the guild not the other way around - Castles/castle nodes are owned by a guild and quite different than a normal node in that regard.
Nodes are run by a mayor, which is an individual -> guilds can work towards getting a particular person to be mayor, the same that anyone could work towards becoming mayor / getting their friend to become mayor
primal holly
@idle siren please add alpha purchasement option for 15€ per month.. I would actually like to pay the 300 xD but this is like half of my monthly salary as a student
forest trellis
thanks
stable plover
@primal holly The high tier packages can be purchased in a sort of installment option by upgrading tier to tier over time by paying the difference if you want.
oak depot
@stable plover @idle siren is there a reason you guys don't have any AoC_DevTracker bots on this discord? Something to aggregate all AoC related messages across all the devs and social media platforms to make it easier for people to see all the latest info in one centralized location?
primal holly
@primal holly The high tier packages can be purchased in a sort of installment option by upgrading tier to tier over time by paying the difference if you want.
@stable plover sorry I didnt understand.. what do you mean? 😮
crystal beacon
Just save your 15 a month until you have enough.
kindred stag
+1 Jakee
primal holly
Just save your 15 a month until you have enough.
@crystal beacon yeah this is the plane xD
*plan
stable plover
@oak depot Margaret is probably actually the person you'd want in that particular tag since that seems like the kind of decision she'd make (She's in charge of marketing). The news/server status channels can be mirrored to other discord servers and a bot could happily parse them there.
oak depot
I get that, but that does not include all the one-off messages in questions or aoc-discussion or general-discussion
but thanks
eternal glade
Did margaret state anything about price harmonization?
stable plover
I suppose the real answer is a lot of say Steven's posts don't make sense without looking at the context around them which would be hard for a bot to pick up, like "yes, we'll look into that" or 'I'm on episode 3" or "That's not a planned feature" <- Probably not actual quotes
@eternal glade I think the only quotes on price harmonization atm are from Steven
eternal glade
Okay I guess we will just know more in time, I was just wondering if Canadians will have to pay USD or CND for sub
oak depot
In the PvP-flagging Non-Combatant to Combatant https://ashesofcreation.wiki/images/thumb/4/43/pvp_flagging_diagram.png/1920px-pvp_flagging_diagram.png what is the exact meaning of "attacks"? Is it when the attack starts or when it finishes or when it hits (meaning it wouldn't apply if it was not a tab-targeted attack and I moved out of the way) or when it does damage? Do we know?
stable plover
@eternal glade Price harmonization locks people to playing on the servers that their paying the harmonized price for, for example if Intrepid open a Brazilian server that was cheaper when converted to USD anyone paying to play on the Brazilian server can only play on that server, and I don't think specifically Canadian servers are super likely (Maybe there could be a French server if Intrepid thought there was enough interest), so to play on US servers probably going to need to convert to USD.
@oak depot I would assume it's when it hits, since the game probably wouldn't track skill shots that miss as a flagging event. Accidental AoE flagging is off by default and can be toggled on if your concerned about accidentally hitting people. We know that heals and buffs can flag (option to not have that happen on by default) so presumably other non-damaging things would also flag.
oak depot
@stable plover no, I'm concerned if it's on hit then if I (as a good player) see someone trying to gank me while I PvE and prep/channel a big dmg nuke to hit me with (using target-of-target to see I'm the target) I won't be able to retaliate until after I take the damage without possibly risking one-shotting the would-be-attacker and becoming corrupt
eternal glade
Yea that makes sense I mean i have been paying for wow in USD for years and its not that bad but still. And also the french server example is an interesting one because I am French Canadian and I personally wouldnt play on one I prefer playing mmos in english for some reasons, but theres a lot of people that would really enjoy it i'm sure because they don't necessarily speak great english
fickle beacon
tbh, not sure if this is the case but as someone who travel a lot between US and EU for work, id really like if u could transfer between region, Blizzard doesnt allows it and its annoying AF.
eternal glade
@oak depot you can attack non-combattant
stable plover
@oak depot The final time to kill time goal is 30-60 seconds, aka quite higher than currently shown in testing btw
primal solstice
Does intrepid takes sound design serious?
trim moon
@fickle beacon Wouldn't make sense for AoC to have any kind of server transfer
your character is too tied up with the server it was created
vestal tundra
Every server will be different also
oak depot
@oak depot you can attack non-combattant
@eternal glade I understand... but if I am able to one shot someone who is attacking me but hasn't flagged combatant yet as they haven't hit me yet I would get corruption for killing them
trim moon
@oak depot how is he attack you without flagging?
eternal glade
@oak depot Well in theory yes but in practice no. You won't be able to one shot unless its a way lower level than you from my understanding
oak depot
@trim moon he is channeling a big-dmg nuke and I can see in his target-of-target that I'm the target
trim moon
Well, as said by @eternal glade, if you can one shot him, he is no threat to you anyways
midnight iron
Does your character only drop raw resources on pvp death or it happenes on normal deaths (fall damage, pve ) too
fickle beacon
@trim moon not sure why you say that planty of mmo`s do server transfer, just some dont allow it between region like NA/EU, but most popular mmos do paid server transfer, not sure how it could be any different.
stable plover
@primal solstice They do, but most of the sound design isn't in, If anyone cares to try fixing it I think the wiki could really use a page on the topic
oak depot
@eternal glade @trim moon sure, he isn't a threat, but that means some skill is being taken out of the game. I have to wait to be hit before I can retaliate so I don't get corrupted. Just something to think about. They could, for example, make attackers flag on start of attack/cast
trim moon
@oak depot For what i know, you have to flag first, then attack
primal solstice
@primal solstice They do, but most of the sound design isn't in, If anyone cares to try fixing it I think the wiki could really use a page on the topic
@stable plover okie thx
eternal glade
Well no you can retaliate, you just need to don't kill them and if they stop, you stop too. You don't get corruption from attacking but from killing
oak depot
I am under the impression that "attacking" is what does the "flagging"... it's one action not two separate buttons... clicks. I could be wrong
trim moon
@fickle beacon The thing is that, specially in AoC, no two servers are equal, you are a maker and a product of the server's history
So wouldn't make sense for your character to level, have gear, be a citizen on one server
and then be allowed to transfer to another server
soft knoll
hello lovely peeps! sorry to bother but is there a preferred image/photo or even mediakit for aoc to be used when i want to advertise it on my channel?
trim moon
because all of the things you accomplish are tied up to that server's nodes, which wouldn't be the same in another server
primal solstice
Thats standard , very little amount of mmorpg let u switch servers...
trim moon
@primal solstice but specially in AoC, it would make no sense to be able to transfer
fickle beacon
wow, finalfantasy as a start allows it 2 of the most popular one
primal solstice
@primal solstice but specially in AoC, it would make no sense to be able to transfer
@trim moon ofc
trim moon
unless you loose your equipment, augments, ranks etc when transfering
which would render your character useless
fickle beacon
if u say very little amount of "successful" mmo allows it, then maybe thats true.
tulip hatch
@soft knoll there is currently no public mediakit available, I can provide the basic logo images if thats fine
primal solstice
When we will start to see streamers footage without nda?
trim moon
Alpha 1, prolly
tulip hatch
depends on the devs and how they feel about the games state, either summer or when it opens up to all testers in the fall
primal solstice
Alpha 1, prolly
@trim moon date?
fickle beacon
tulip hatch
@primal solstice Fall is the ETA no exact date
primal solstice
@primal solstice Fall is the ETA no exact date
@tulip hatch so no summer? All the hype was that somtime in august nda will be lifted ..
tulip hatch
I actually answered the question in my sentence above
Depending on how the developers are feeling about the current state of the game at the time will determine if they lift the NDA in the summer if not then itll be in the Fall
primal solstice
Yeah any way thx
fleet rock
how many alts can u make?
brittle vector
From the dev update i heard it was near the end of fall
clear badge
If Voyager is going away in 3 days, will the next top tier supporter pack have alpha 2 access still
tulip hatch
@fleet rock we have only been told it will be a "comfortable" amount
voyager is not going away in 3 days
only the cosmetics are cycling over to a new set
fleet rock
no clue what that means but thanks
lunar otter
ok i just finished watching the 'Pre-Alpha 4k Gameplay' I know its from may 31 but they mentioned early on about the icon for quests ,shops etc. As for a colour blind individual i know how confusing having similar shaded and or colour icon's can be disorientating and annoying to have to deal with. Is there any like 'colour blind' setting's so the player could change the icons to any colour they choose or a specific template like 'Protanopia, Deuteranopia or Tritanopia' like COD has? i have also been watching all recent
Q&a etc
tulip hatch
@lunar otter there will be settings for color blind people
lunar otter
cool ty
ebon star
Steven is also color blind fun fact
woeful vector
Color Blind settings are pretty much standard in gaming. I wouldn’t worry about it @lunar otter
ebon star
There will be option
clear badge
Ty @tulip hatch appreciate the quick response :) my GF and I wish there were still packs for alpha 1 access but we are super late to this party. We will pick up some Voyager packs soon thank you again
tulip hatch
Youre welcome, theres no rush either if youre signed up for the mailing list youll receive an email before the alpha 2 access is removed from packages.
woeful vector
Wait. The Voyager pack is being replaced in three days?
tulip hatch
Only the cosmetics.
vestal tundra
Not pack only cosmetics
woeful vector
Oh shoot
Thats not good
I want the Timeless Terrapin skin but I currently don’t have the means to purchase a pack now 😭
clear badge
Maybe you will like the new cosmetics better? It's not strictly bad
tulip hatch
Cosmetics cycle monthly, the current ones cycle over on the 5th
woeful vector
Oh thank goodness
tulip hatch
:c its okay maybe youll like the new ones better or you can always wait till ones that really seal the deal for you pop up
Theres no rush right now since a2 access removal hasnt been announced
crystal beacon
@tulip hatch ❤️
vestal tundra
Any ideas what next month's are going to look like?
crystal beacon
nope
eternal glade
Link for the cosmetics ?
woeful vector
The thing is, I’ve already planned to RP as a Py’rai turtle Knight that keeps a turtle sanctuary safe and was planning to use the Timeless Terrapin as my mount
tulip hatch
They may announce it monday since they dont usually announce things on the weekends
but currently we dont know what the new set is
woeful vector
But if its back in a couple of months I can deal with it
worthy holly
I imagine this will be added eventually, but do we have confirmation** that we'll be able to see sheathed weapons? c:
Getting Fallout 4 flashbacks
tulip hatch
it wont be, all cosmetics are exclusive to that month
somber basalt
@eternal glade
tulip hatch
they dont return
crystal beacon
Some are so f cool looking
tulip hatch
@worthy holly you can set up priority settings to see sheathed weapons/cloaks/backpacks
eternal glade
Are there going to be tattoos customization
digital haven
Will there be anything spooky in AoC? Vampires? Undead npc faction? Haunted architecture?
tulip hatch
@eternal glade yes to tattoos
faint fjord
If i choose the Processing artisan tree, i cant fish? Fishing is in the gathering tree
fluid jetty
With ashes of creations class system being as complex as it is, are there any plans to include play testing a fully upgraded class (both primary and secondary class types) before creating your character.
eternal glade
@fluid jetty No class trials
tulip hatch
@digital haven they havent mentioned any darker themed areas.
Since there has been darker themed cosmetics and cosmetics are said to fit in the world of ashes it's safe to say there probably is dark/gloomy areas
Id recommend asking in the next livestream Q&A
@faint fjord you can choose to fish and partake in another profession but you can only master one of the 3 artisan paths
oak depot
@idle siren quick question since you just got online - is the max skill point count 50 (one per level) or can we gain skill points as part of quest / events / milestone rewards?
wintry jasper
with the comsmetics changing , do we keep the ones we already purchased ? and if we like the new ones can we get them without losing the ones we already purchased?
cedar thicket
Do you get to tax the citizens as a mayor?
faint fjord
@tulip hatch so we could engage in all professions availavle in the game? Not mastering them. We don't need other people services then, unless we need master stuff, no?
tulip hatch
Yes you keep your current ones
You can purchase the new cosmetics equal to or below the package you currently own. This does not replace your cosmetics just gives you the new ones
wintry jasper
the new commetics will be at a reduced price correct ?
reef osprey
@faint fjord you might not even become an "adept" fisher
just dabbling into the basics potentially
faint fjord
@cedar thicket yes, mayor set taxes on their nodes
tulip hatch
@faint fjord it'll be difficult to learn multiple is what we know so far, we don't know how difficult it'll be though
But yes as warth stated there beginner/basics you can learn
faint fjord
Got it, Thank you
cedar thicket
Ok, so the gold you get is used to buy/upgrade plots, or is it just for personal use?
tulip hatch
@wintry jasper yes the price range is $5-$25 for the individuals
faint fjord
@cedar thicket all gold from node taxes can only BE used for the node improvment, mayor cant use it for personal gain
reef osprey
if we say the ranks are:
beginner, adept, proficient, master
tgen you might have to stop at beginner stuff
red glade
So I have like a big question about naval stuff. When it comes to water mechanics is there a plan to have a realistic wave system, maybe not quite as in depth as something like sea of thieves but maybe better than just super smooth water?
cedar thicket
Good
reef osprey
@red glade we dont know anything about that
i would not be too optimistic though
cedar thicket
I think it would be to much work for something that would be barely utilized
reef osprey
agreed
faint fjord
Maybe next expansion
red glade
I wouldn't mind too much if it acted like it was calm but maybe animations like in archeage or something like that?
digital haven
Has there been any mention of a vampiric-like class? I'm assuming they'd be able to fit something of this nature given there being 64 classes
reef osprey
@cedar thicket maybe in expansions
grand tiger
If you master the fishing path but you want to become a master in mining, are you able to the change profession from fisher to miner?
red glade
Barey utilized?
cedar thicket
I don't really care about naval stuff, maybe if i get to be a mayor of a nice island, maybe then
red glade
I thought there was naval content in game?
reef osprey
@grand tiger you can master both
you can master all gathering professions
red glade
Ok but you not caring doesn't mean it wont be utilized lol
grand tiger
ok thank you
tulip hatch
@red glade the ocean wont always be static, itll change based on climate. That's all we know so far
stable plover
@red glade They do plan to have waves on the open ocean that 'look' realistic, but not with an attempt at 'realistic simulation', check out the beach waves we've seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVETnLeJZFo&feature=youtu.be&t=42m55s
tulip hatch
Remember to keep this channel to questions and answers friends
cedar thicket
It wont be, why waste a ton of resources of a gameplay mechanic which only a few will make use of, or appreciate @red glade
tulip hatch
Sauldor please take comments discussion to the appropriate channels.
surreal elk
@red glade wave mechanics wont be a part at launch as alluring has said some seasonal stuff is plan that's all we truly know outside of not having wave mechanics
cedar thicket
Sorry
eternal glade
Is there skinning/leatherworking in the game? Don't think i've seen it anywhere
reef osprey
@eternal glade the professions we know are mere examples.
We don't have a full list
afaik
Alluring pls correct me if thats wrong
tulip hatch
We dont have a full list of all professions at this time
But we did get a tannery freehold skin so you can assume off that
eternal glade
Oh okay I thought they were all stated already
tulip hatch
There is a lot we have not been informed of
oak depot
so is the official name "Tanner" for the processing profession?
onyx knoll
we don't have an official name for anything that isn't on the wiki
eternal palm
Since there is no hearthstone, is there any penalty for logging out in the wild, or any bonus for logging out in a city / home? In WoW for example you get "Rested" which is limited bonus XP, so you always have an incentive to heartstone back to your home inn to accumulate that faster
tulip hatch
Nothing for logging out in a certain place
There is rested exp for renting and staying in a tavern
silk fractal
what are travel means in this game beside the obvious mount and on foot travel?
wild marsh
Science nodes will have the ability to fast travel to other science nodes I believe. Families can fast travel to each other. Other than that, I believe it's just mounts, caravan, and walking.
boreal abyss
flying autopath like in early wow too iirc (airbus service?)
bleak zephyr
@wild marsh u can also summon ur family member if i do remember correctly.
sharp hare
Ppl need to go and play Life is Feudal to understand how this game with 480 square km will work 😄
onyx knoll
on a long cooldown, but correct
untold belfry
@silk fractal boats and fast travel to major metropolitans. Family teleports also
bleak zephyr
@untold belfry Wasnt fast travel limited only to scientific node?
golden coral
Science nodes that are at metrapolis stage are able to teleport players to other metropolis nodes.
sharp hare
Also if you look at the map its like two continents not connected by land so naval trading/transport etc will be a big deal specially if the resources os certain type will be regionalised by different node types
golden coral
When is the next ama stream?
torpid tangle
Families is taking the same family name as a friend or it's a Family like in AA
@silk fractal It's taking the creating a family name that other people can join into sort of like a second guild
empty dragon
does everyone already have an ideo of what overall class you will choose?
silk fractal
so like Archeage
bleak zephyr
@V https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Families All info you need about Family system
silk fractal
thanks
ah yeah you'll get the family name if you want to show
that's what I thought
errant lynx
Im totally new to this topic - If i want to inform myself comletely about the game and IT development, is there some Big Journal i can look up where i find anything to this game from The scratch? Dont want to flood this Discord With questions, when im able to educate myself :D
empty dragon
wait his game has a family system, you can choose first name and family name. This game is truly a ROLEPLAY MMORPG
boreal abyss
@errant lynx https://www.ashes101.com
golden coral
@errant lynx watch lazypeon video on youtube
errant lynx
Thanks mate! Will Look it up. I found Out about this game by accident and now im hyped and sad at The same time, because i want to Play it now :D
boreal abyss
@errant lynx welcome to the hole
thorny raft
Does anyone know if we will get an advance peek at the next pre-purchase cosmetic packs?
boreal abyss
there is no way out
golden coral
You gotta wait a bit for sure
errant lynx
Yeah i can feel it :D
golden coral
👍
wild marsh
@errant lynx I sent you a DM with other links too
errant lynx
Thank you guys so much <3
west turtle
will there be areas of darker 'themes' or will i walk through the world on LSD
short coral
lmao
eternal glade
Can you marry a family member 🤔
golden coral
@eternal glade yeah but you gotta deal with your religious leaders
wild marsh
I also think marrying someone adds them to your family for fast travel.
bleak zephyr
Well i guess it would be the right direction
molten garnet
im looking to play a step brother class
eternal glade
Can you marry someone with the same sex as you (asking for a friend not a joke)
green geyser
please enable family marriage so it adds immersion to RP
wooden nest
Will there be a class that focuses on buffing/debuffing? Like for example giving haste, strength, slow, confusion and so on. I was thinking that maybe enchanter would be like that, but I'm not too sure
short coral
This chat getting real weird today lol
dreamy temple
@wooden nest bard
eternal glade
@wooden nest bards
dreamy temple
is completely that
wooden nest
ah ok, ty
green geyser
😳
bleak zephyr
@wooden nest The Bard is one of eight class archetypes in Ashes of Creation . They are considered a support type class. Bard's create their spells through songs, dance, stories, and music. With powerful words, they can create intense and devastating nightmares on their enemies, or even convince them to become an ally. Bards are an inspiration to their team.
tulip hatch
@eternal glade yes you can
wooden nest
So if you choose Bard/bard it will be more diversity with the buffs/debuffs? Or do they get more powerful? Not sure how it works yet
crystal junco
hey all can I predownload the launcher anywhere if I bought a pack?
sorry but I cant find it anywhere on the site
tulip hatch
Testing is limited to backers of the leader of men tier or higher
Alpha 1 testers will be the next group to test
You can not predownload
crystal junco
Ah thanks I have an Alpha 2 key so I think thats at the end of the year right?
versed hollow
@crystal junco it's whenever Alpha 2 starts, no date for it yet
wild marsh
Alpha 1 will more than likely be the end of the year
tulip hatch
No, maybe sometime next year
Alpha 1 is in the fall
wild marsh
Alpha 2 I'd say midish next year but that's personal speculation.
crystal junco
Aye thank y'all!
hopefully sometime soon lets say! Im looking forward to being a privateer! ❤️
sly monolith
since there is a bounty system in place... why should a player risk in going corrupt, when there no benifits but only penalties?
bleak zephyr
@sly monolith Well if u take in consideration that travel takes long time u can simply kill someone to have a free farming spot.
bleak zephyr
@sly monolith Not rly u need alot of corruption to lose your gear from what im aware.
twin basin
if i live in the mountains can i build a ship or do i need to be at a harbor
tulip hatch
The penalty isn't extreme initially, it stacks on the more you kill non combatants
twin basin
follow up: can i ride a ship down a mountain
sly monolith
yes that's fine... but why should i go corrupt?
eternal glade
for fun ?
tulip hatch
You shouldn't it's not beneficial
It's there to stop griefers
bleak zephyr
@sly monolith To get benefits from being alone on the farming spot rest is just your immagination.
pine basalt
when do you think Alpha 2 will be released?
arctic sky
You don't.. It's an anti griefing mechanics
sly monolith
im pointing out the counter of bounty hunters...
molten garnet
has the studio mentioned anything about people abusing voice chat by playing music over their microphone to troll people?
twin basin
@pine basalt a year
pine basalt
oh my
twin basin
its ok not like you need that $250 anyway right
pine basalt
true but i want it XD
sly monolith
bounty hunters get rewards by killing/hunter down corrupt players.. but what do corrupt players get?
eternal palm
@sly monolith The benefit is you get to kill people, they drop items you get to take, and now you have the area to yourself for uncontested farming
eternal glade
Nothing
glad sleet
has the studio mentioned anything about people abusing voice chat by playing music over their microphone to troll people?
@molten garnet vc only works for party raid guild etc, and leader can mute people
sly monolith
correct answer is nothing indeed
eternal glade
There is nothing good from being corrupted
lusty haven
bounty hunters get rewards by killing/hunter down corrupt players.. but what do corrupt players get?
@sly monolith Why would they get anything ?
glad sleet
Other instance where it works is taverns but only there
molten garnet
cool thanks for the answer
eternal palm
Corruptiong exists as an anti griefing mechanic, to prevent people from getting the benefits of doing a PK too frequently, there is no benefits to being corrupted, you got the benefits in exchange for corruption
twin basin
there doesnt need to be a good part of being corrupted
sly monolith
well in order to get the bounty system working as intended it needs corrupt players... but if there no rewards for them.. why do i wanne get corrupt
molten garnet
would bounty hunters be useful in situations outside of hunting corrupt players?
eternal glade
There will be griefers don't worry about that lol
lusty haven
Corruption is not a "sidequest" or a rewarding action of any kind, it is just a measure of precaution so players don't do dumb shit
eternal palm
There is no reward for being corrupted
You got rewarded by killing another player, looting him, and having the farming area uncontested.
In exchange for those benefits, you gained corruption.
lusty haven
And there is always a bunch that like doing dumb shit lol
sly monolith
combatant player drops gear?
eternal palm
not gear, but raw materials and processed goods
reef osprey
@sly monolith corrupted player drop gear
eternal palm
corrupted player can drop grear
reef osprey
@sly monolith combatant drop resources and material as well as lose exp, but at half the rate of non combatants
eternal palm
Lets say they are mining a mithril vein, you can come and kill them, they will drop some mithril, and now you can mine the mithril vein alone
sly monolith
that's a meaning then to kill harvesters
eternal palm
but, you gained some corruption if they didnt fight back
thats the benefit of PKing
the restriction is corruption
so you dont PK everyone always
reef osprey
@sly monolith killing the harvesters gives you corruption if they don'T fight back
Then you have a chance to drop gear and suffer dying penalities at 4 (!) times the rate
sly monolith
preff to have a node for only corruption players tho.. but that aint gonna happen :S
eternal palm
You can have an area with only combatant players
where eveyrone is PvPing
and no one gains corruption
reef osprey
@sly monolith Corrupted players are like monsters
ancient charm
The benefits to pking in ashes is really low is whats the issue
sly monolith
sort of argee
tulip hatch
At this point this has become a discussion
Please take it to the correct channels
Thank yooou
eternal palm
You only gain corruption for killing non combatants, if a combatant kills a combatant, there is no corruption
reef osprey
@ancient charm
nah, the benefits for griefing and ganking is low
You can kill them, as long as they fight back without any pentalties
ancient charm
If you wanna make the arguement that corrupted players are treated as monsters then don't under power them with hits to their pking
sly monolith
i underrstand the system.. i was wondering why no benefits are given for corrupy players
ancient charm
@reef osprey Yeah that's what I'm saying
eternal palm
because you already gained the benefits while getting corrupted
slate fox
loot is the benefit
molten garnet
killing is the benifit
tulip hatch
Please take the discussion to #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion
Thank you
ancient charm
@slate fox Very little might I add
sly monolith
only benefits are resources and farm spot then i guess
ancient charm
No killing is the action
heavy cradle
When a new pack is released, do they tease the contents prior to the removal of the current pack?
tulip hatch
@heavy cradle normally they do
ancient charm
what you benefit from it is what's the issue
bleak zephyr
@sly monolith A non-combatant (green player) who dies suffers normal penalties, which include:
Experience debt (negative experience).
Skill and stat dampening.
Lower health and mana.
Lower gear proficiency.
Reduction in drop rates from monsters.
Durability loss
Dropping a percentage of carried raw materials.
This includes a percentage of items carried on the player's mule.
This also includes a percentage of the certificates a player is carrying.
A combatant (purple player) who dies suffers these same penalties, but at half the rate of a non-combatant.
A corrupt (red player) suffers penalties at four times the rate of a non-combatant, and has a chance to drop any carried/equipped items based on their current corruption score. This includes:
Dropping weapons and gear.
These dropped items may be looted by other players.[
Corrupt players respawn at random locations in the vicinity of their death, not at regular spawn points.[
Dampening (due to corruption) only affects PvP combat.[
Death penalties do not differ between PvP and PvE, but this is subject to change.
Death by drowning is possible.
heavy cradle
Okay thanks - gonna hold out on getting grass turtle in the hopes for galactic dragon
sly monolith
where you get that info?
tulip hatch
They may announce pack change tomorrow but they normally give more notice
bleak zephyr
@sly monolith https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_death
ancient charm
Corrupted players have everything working against them and nothing working for them
ancient charm
They don't have a place they can go to like a underworld or a evil location
either
eternal glade
Is there some sort of daze mechanics where while you ride your mounts and gets attacked, there is a chance of getting slowed/dismounted?
tulip hatch
They can kill your mount
Not sure about other mechanics involved in dismounting
Ask in the next livestream Q&A
ancient charm
What about worshipping the corrupted gods or the evil gods? are we allowed to do that???
Like come on
meager cave
Do we know whether the holy trinity is needed for instanced content? Eg - with a load of dps players with secondary healing - can the 'healer' be removed? This would be an interesting dynamic.
sly monolith
removing corruption is also highly exploitable... just let a friend kill you over and over
tulip hatch
There dark and light gods
slate fox
@ancient charm just because your a troll/ganker doesnt mean you should have any kinda advantage (IRL crims have no advantage over law abidding citizens)
short coral
I love how ultima online had Bucs Denn for Player Killers
sly monolith
that's simply to say that kinda stuff.. a bounty system needs to work.. we need corrupt players.
onyx knoll
@sly monolith every time you die you gain negative xp, so yes while you could get a friend to kill you until you don't have corruption, you'd be in the negative xp by a lot
ancient charm
@slate fox Their is literally crime lords and underworld places that would love to have you
tulip hatch
@sly monolith corrupted players respawn at a random location
ancient charm
@slate fox And just because it's not possible in the real world doesn't mean it shouldn't be possible in game otherwise that would be a TERRIBLE GAME
lusty haven
that's simply to say that kinda stuff.. a bounty system needs to work.. we need corrupt players.
@sly monolith Just like police needs criminals, bounty hunters will have plenty of work
slate fox
and whats prventing you from making such a node?
bleak zephyr
@onyx knoll Well the question is what will happen when u are max-lvl.
reef osprey
@sly monolith there is one thing i agree with you upon
the gear of the corrupted player should be destroyed, not dropped. This way you can let your friend kill you and pick your gear up.
When it's destroyed, then it's gone
ancient charm
Well for one I haven't heard of that being possible yet @slate fox
onyx knoll
@bleak zephyr You can't actually lose a level but your stats gets lowered when you gain negative xp, so while you would still technically be lvl 50, you'd have the stats of like a lvl 46
tulip hatch
@bleak zephyr you still get reduced stats and lose loot drop % for exp debt
sly monolith
The primary means to remove corruption is through death. Multiple deaths may be necessary to remove all corruption.[18][19]
Dying removes a significant portion of a player's corruption score.[20]
Gaining experience will also slowly reduce a player's corruption score.[18]
That creates a fun kind of experience for the bounty hunters to try to catch you while you're working it off.[18] – Steven Sharif
A quest may be utilized to reduce the player kill (PK) count of a corrupt player in order for them to accumulate less corruption score in the future.[21][20]
This is a design shift from a religious quest being used to directly reduce the corruption score.[22]
Corruption duration is reduced in military nodes.[23]
bleak zephyr
@tulip hatch @onyx knoll Good point , ty
slate fox
make a militant node and just go for it you can work outside the base rules if you want but don't expect help