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candid lava
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and how many can be metropolis out of 118?

mystic notch
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5

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Out of the 103

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5 of the 15 will be castles

shell vapor
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Can a nodes theme change when leveling if a lot of players from a different race contribute more xp to the node?

reef osprey
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@shell vapor names are predetermined out of a random pool of choices.
the first mayor can select the name of the node afaik

candid lava
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so castle nodes are different type of nodes?

surreal ravine
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Is there going to be a prison system like Archeage had?

reef osprey
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@candid lava yeah, they are purely for castle sieges

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@surreal ravine probably no, they never mentioned it

surreal ravine
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ok

primal holly
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I think I heared of something like "node president" can any1 explain what this is?

shell vapor
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@reef osprey I meant can the architecture style of a node change

dark jungle
reef osprey
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@shell vapor style does change depending on the race contributing most exps

keen grotto
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What benefits does a divine node offer up compared to the other three? It seems there’s the least know about it and aside from rp, it doesn’t seem compelling enough to warrant a metropolis node. Has balancing between the four types been explained at all?

gilded crane
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Has there been any talk of possible Lore Books written before the game is released? kinda like warcraft and Diablo

proven root
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pls no human female meta

dark jungle
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@keen grotto sadly we dont know the benefits of divine nodes yet

candid lava
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The map will be covered in fog until we discover new points of interest right?

dark jungle
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yep

crystal beacon
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Do you guys think when they made the old silhouettes for tulnars they had dragonborn,kobolds in mind?

dark jungle
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seems like it

grim prairie
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all players will start in the same first node?

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and start exploring from there?

candid lava
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I dont think its a node, but rather a starting area

dark jungle
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no, there are 4 starting gateways and 9 starting zones

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correct the starting areas arent nodes

grim prairie
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ty

versed delta
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Will Beta 1 keys still be available after Alpha 1 goes live?

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Alpha 1 starts this fall?

grim plinth
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yea

proud sorrel
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Ok so flight is really rare but is it going to be the case that people only become mayors and guild leaders for flight? cause i don't really like the idea that only special people can get it.

ivory latch
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foogi

candid lava
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No, They said you can get rare drops (eggs of flying mounts) which have time limit attached to them.

ivory latch
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if you have high enough stats in raising your baby flying mount you can have it forever

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so in time there will be more than 20

mystic notch
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The mayor system is set up well that only devoted players will really become mayor as well

pliant sphinx
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You can only really master 1 skill but does that include gathering skills or just the crafting/processing ones? Example could you both master blacksmithing and be able to mine the max tier ore? I assume no but I would like to double check.

mystic notch
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1 for all of them

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Not each category

ivory latch
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you can master all the skills in 1 area like all in gathering

candid lava
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@mystic notch that would depend on the node type, cuz each node type have their own election process for the mayors

ivory latch
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is kind a strange that you can do that since there are so many professions they should limit it to 2-3

proven root
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any info on what will happen to the voyager plus pre order pack once alpha 2 is over? will the price drop to compensate, will they change the contents of it?

mystic notch
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Yes what I’m saying is each system of becoming mayor is set up that only devoted players will be able to get it

ivory latch
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marcel most likely more skins

mystic notch
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Actually I don’t know the divine node mayor election

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But the other ones definitely take dedication

keen heart
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Divine is whoever does the most quests/contributes the most

dapper cove
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@jokery the way I understand the profession system is that you will only be able to max out 1 profession, so with gathering you could have maxxed mining but that would lock you out from maxxing lumberjack

mystic notch
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@ivory latch I’m pretty sure you can only master one profession total, not one category. It wouldn’t make sense because processing only has two professions while crafting has like 7

ivory latch
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thats what was told here, all in 1 category

mystic notch
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I’ll check the wiki but I’m 99.9% sure that’s not how it works

dapper cove
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I havent read much on here, just been listening to the dev updates on youtube

keen heart
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You can master any of the 3 paths

errant chasm
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does any 1 have the price values of the items in the packs going forward?

reef osprey
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@keen heart nah you can master 3 professiosn within a path

alpine zodiac
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Does anyone know how the respawn mechanic will work? Will it be like in WoW, running as a ghost to ur corps or spawning back on some point of interest?

primal holly
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nah I think they said

reef osprey
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@alpine zodiac no corpse walking

primal holly
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you can max out 1

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but you can still learn the others

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without maxing them

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not sure tho

alpine zodiac
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Okay, ty

proud sorrel
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Is there anyway to prevent the node system from being exploited by the powerful guilds?

keen heart
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"It is possible to master multiple professions within a parent artisan path, but this will be a long and labor intensive feat, requiring many resources"

mystic notch
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Players must choose a path in the artisan skill tree for each character.[1] Within each of the three parent artisan paths (Gathering, Processing and Crafting) there are different professions. A character may only ever master one of these parent paths.[2][3][4][5]

Gathering is a parent artisan path, along with processing and crafting. Within each of the three parent paths lies different professions. You may only ever master one parent path. But you may spend time mastering each profession within the parent artisan path.[5] – Steven Sharif

Becoming a master Crafter or a master Processor or a master Gatherer should be a significant time investment and resource investment; and because of that it should also be something that when you achieve that status it's like people on the server know who you are.[6] – Steven Sharif

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you are absoultly right @ivory latch

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sorry for spreading misinformation

reef osprey
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yeah, you are right

austere rock
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Does anyone know if they have previewed what the next set of packages starting in early August will include? I want to buy my partner (and me) the packages that include Alpha 2 access, but his birthday isn't until the 16th. I won't want him to get it too early, but I also don't want to miss Alpha 2!

hexed minnow
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so I can master gathering, but still can do processing just not master it?

mystic notch
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yes

keen heart
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correct

ivory latch
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i think this isnt final, because that would be too op to have good in everything in 1 area

primal holly
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"It is possible to master multiple professions within a parent artisan path, but this will be a long and labor intensive feat, requiring many resources"
@keen heart im also interested

keen heart
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or you can do it on alts

ivory latch
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you cant master 1 and do a bit of processing

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is master 1 or master none

reef osprey
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so you will most likely end up only doing your path

mystic notch
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i agree @ivory latch also because there are 10 crafting professions while there are only 2 processing professions

ivory latch
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i still think mastering everything in 1 area is too much

reef osprey
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as it would simply not be efficient to do a little bit of processing if someone else could do it much better

keen heart
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Would make the most since, because its going to be quite the time sink

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and if you cant master it, screw it, let someone else do it haha

primal holly
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i still think mastering everything in 1 area is too much
@ivory latch same

reef osprey
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@mystic notch that's only the one he randomly spoilers on stream
there will be more processing, like woodworking

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and stuff

mystic notch
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gotcha

ivory latch
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processing is animal husbary which is one of the most important one if you want to have a perm flying mount

knotty dew
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agreed, would be better if you could only master like shipbuilding OR siege weaponry not the whole crafting tree

mystic notch
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we should all post on the forums though because its feedback like this that they are looking for

proud sorrel
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Will crafting be impacted by personal skill?

ivory latch
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crafting will be impacted by the materials you need to make the stuff

reef osprey
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@proud sorrel mostly complexity and decision making rather than physical skill

ivory latch
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because legendary ingredients drops from end game bosses

reef osprey
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like reaction time or accuracy

keen heart
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indirectly, it will

reef osprey
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@knotty dew they say it will take forever to master them all
they also said they they might limit it depending on testing

keen heart
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Id be ok with it limited to a few instead of like a full 7 in a path

rich monolith
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processing is animal husbary which is one of the most important one if you want to have a perm flying mount
@ivory latch Is this true? I haven't heard about it before 😲

mystic notch
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rn there is black smithing and then armor and weapon smithing so what will the difference be between black smithing and the other two?

reef osprey
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@ivory latch @rich monolith no, you can't have a permanent flying mount

ivory latch
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they said it in the stream

mystic notch
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15-30 days decay

reef osprey
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you can just increase it's length between 15 and 30 days

ivory latch
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about flying mounts

dapper cove
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I think i would prefer to have professions work in the way that i misunderstood them to be

mystic notch
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same

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well

reef osprey
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yeah, they are 15-30 days max if maxed out husbandry

ivory latch
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a inexperience in that skill will have 15d

keen heart
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I like the idea of 3

mystic notch
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i think just limited like jokery said

ivory latch
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higher 30 and a max skill one will have perm

reef osprey
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@ivory latch nope

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all flying mounts are temporary

ivory latch
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yes they said it in the stream not long ago

reef osprey
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you are wrong

primal holly
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we should all post on the forums though because its feedback like this that they are looking for
@mystic notch make the post, send us the link and we will support ( I would do it myself, but I'm not very talented at writing xD )

ivory latch
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i'm not

mystic notch
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ight

dapper cove
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Do not question Jokery

knotty dew
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the castle and mayor mounts are not temporary technically, but they are also temporary because mayors and kings do change sometimes

cloud nymph
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If you buy a pack in their store as an eu player, you can transfer that over to my.com or what its called later on?

mystic notch
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they last 15-30 days

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so yes temp

reef osprey
ivory latch
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was the question will there be more than 20 flying mounts and they said yes depending on the skill in animal husbary it can raise from 15 to 30d even make it permanent which has lower chance to happen it i can have unlimitd time

reef osprey
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you are wrong jokery, feel free to send the time stamp though

ivory latch
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warth thats old, what i'm telling you is from the stream they had with the other streamers

keen heart
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If that was true, then everyone would have flying mounts

reef osprey
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you are still wrong

keen heart
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if everyone chose animal husbandry

knotty dew
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yeah Jokery I think you misunderstood something, find us a timestamp

reef osprey
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@knotty dew i already found the timestamp for him

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look up the link above

knotty dew
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okok

dapper cove
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In the june dev update on youtube steven says that legendary mounts that grant flying will have a lifespan, but most ground mounts will be permanant

keen heart
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yup

knotty dew
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"they can be cultivated into a lifetime-specific flying mount" maybe this is where you misunderstood @ivory latch

mystic notch
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someone give me a referral code

knotty dew
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they didn't mean you get to keep the flyingmount for a lifetime lol

mystic notch
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ill help someone out here

keen heart
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idk, its like the 3rd line on the wiki haha

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"Royal mounts are dropped as eggs that can be cultivated through the Animal husbandry profession for artisans with a high enough stable upgrade on their freehold.[3] The eggs themselves also have a lifetime"

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seems pretty straight forward

primal holly
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do they make a dev. video each month?

reef osprey
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@primal holly yes

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sometimes mid month interviews and QnAs

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but one fixed dev update at the end

ivory latch
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thanks that one

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my mistake lifetime wrap

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it was

summer elbow
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Is there gonna be like a mount (+ pet) taming feature or are mounts and pets from item shop only?

exotic berry
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Taming system

sterile fjord
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@summer elbow as far as i know you can learn a profession that concentrates on Mount taming

exotic berry
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And breeding

sterile fjord
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and probably breeding too yes

exotic berry
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A trial and error breeding system

summer elbow
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Are any pets in the game confirmed or is it just mounts btw?

exotic berry
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They say tha excplicitly in the wiki

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Pets are confirmed

summer elbow
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And the lizard we saw on YouTube can also be tamed in the wilderness?

covert ember
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In regards to the item shop, the mount stuff will apparently only be skins too, not actual mounts

exotic berry
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Maybe

sterile fjord
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@covert ember yes the shop ONLY sells Skins nothing else only cosmetics nothing that gives you advantage or easyer lvling or something like that

summer elbow
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Thank you guys, everyone's so nice and helpful 1010

sterile fjord
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@summer elbow no worrys if you have any more questions just throw them out

amber plaza
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Hi, I wanted to ask whether or not you could hit other players with AoEs accidentally. Like could somebody stalk you and wait for you to cast an AoE so he can get hit and kill you without gaining corruption?

lucid igloo
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@amber plaza not unless youre flagged for pvp im pretty sure

sterile fjord
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@amber plaza they could do that but for that they would need to turn pvp on and your attack would ranked as "Defence" kinda since your not flagged

burnt fulcrum
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can i enslave the surviving enemies of other nodes

sterile fjord
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im very sure you cant

burnt fulcrum
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cringe

amber plaza
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lol, that coming from a roman x)

burnt fulcrum
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add slavery

mystic notch
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do people roleplay racism

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like they hate elves or something

amber plaza
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@sterile fjord So you can turn pvp on/off?

summer elbow
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Sounds like a very Dragon Age-y thing to do

unreal zealot
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i mean guild have been made to hunt tulnar so yeah

sterile fjord
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@amber plaza you can turn pvp on and off but it dosent saves you from getting attacked

summer elbow
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Or maybe a very Nord thing

amber plaza
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then what does it do?

mystic notch
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ok so its not actually bad to admit i hate lizard people

merry mango
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racist

mystic notch
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lol

summer elbow
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I'm a Stormcloak supporter, but O swear I'm not racist

lucid igloo
nimble charm
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Will the environment lighting eventually react to particle affects and dynamic lights? In the latest video the environment didn't glow with spells cast etc. Its probably obvious because it's in development and there will be constant iterations. Just thought I'd ask

summer elbow
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I love lizards BlobFighter

sterile fjord
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@amber plaza well if you turn pvp on and another one has it on too you dont get negativ points because you both have pvp on but if someone wants to defend his farming spot and someone tryes to harras him than he has the option to turn on pvp to kill that player

mystic notch
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which race has the inverted knees? is it the furry race?

sterile fjord
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@nimble charm the effekts aswell ass the assets and the whole designe is still not finished and will get brushed in details i think something like that will be addet aswell

mystic notch
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oh nvm steven said they're not furrys

amber plaza
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ok, thx ^^

lucid igloo
reef osprey
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@amber plaza
the flagging system only decides whethere you can attack green players or not.
You are always attackable, whether you are green, purple or red

lucid igloo
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Non-forced attacks (such as AoE) will not hit non-combatant players

mystic notch
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yes i love lizards too @summer elbow, they taste great

lucid igloo
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Non-combatants entering an open world battleground are automatically flagged as combatant and remain flagged for a period of time after leaving that battleground.[19]
Players are flagged as combatants if they attack another player. If the attacked players fight back, they are also flagged as combatants, otherwise the attacked player will remain flagged as a non-combatant.[71]
Non-combatants who heal, buff or otherwise interact with combatants will be flagged as combatants.[73]
Non-combatants who attack a player using combat pets (or any other player-controlled entities) will be flagged as combatants.[74]
Players can kill combatants without repercussions, and are encouraged to do so, since dying while a combatant has reduced death penalties.[71]

hallow venture
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They can if you turn it on though

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It’s togglable

lucid igloo
hallow venture
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Re: AoE

sterile fjord
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@mystic notch if you dont have a question plz take your talk to the General discussion channel thanks 🙂

mystic notch
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srry my bad!

eternal wraith
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Corruption only goes to the one that did the last hit tho right?

lucid igloo
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If a combatant player kills a non-combatant player, they will be flagged as corrupt.

amber plaza
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okay, so if I'm a pve-player, I can not start a fight by accident but I could still get attacked and killed, in which case the person that killed me would gain corruption.

lucid igloo
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@amber plaza yes exactly

eternal wraith
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Oh. Ty

sterile fjord
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@eternal wraith the negative points go to everyone who where attacking the person but the killer gets an extra amount yes

lucid igloo
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@eternal wraith yeah so far, the system needs fleshed out though

reef osprey
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@amber plaza if you don't fight back, yes
if you decide to fight back, then its consentional pvp and both would be free of corruption

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@eternal wraith currently yes, this might change in the future if they feel like its abuseable

vagrant ice
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has there been any footage of combat with abilities and examples of what classes abilities will be? How many abilities? Or is that for a later date?

lucid igloo
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Players will be able to opt-in (via a checkbox) to allow their beneficial or non-beneficial AoEs to hit flagged players. If this is checked then AoE heals or damage will affect flagged players. If it is not checked then the AoE will not damage or heal any flagged players, and as such will not cause the caster to be flagged themselves (if they are not already).

sterile fjord
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@vagrant ice there where some showcases in the latest stream yes but other then them no and even the once in the stream are still work in progress

reef osprey
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@vagrant ice
combat at a later date

amount of abilities will be "less than 30", how many you want to put on your bar (specc into) is your choice

lucid igloo
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@vagrant ice there will be much much more footage of this in action during the alpha1 launch but there are a little yeah

vagrant ice
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ok cool thanks guys 😄

lucid igloo
torpid tangle
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Was the "Voip" System for AOC local or only party voip?

reef osprey
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party

torpid tangle
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awww

sterile fjord
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@torpid tangle local only in taverns if i heard that right something like that

torpid tangle
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oooo tavern aids gotcha

sterile fjord
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but im not really sure

torpid tangle
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elmoFire tavern of anarchyelmoFire coming to a city near you

digital scarab
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Do we know if there will be server wipes between the alphas/betas?

lucid igloo
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@digital scarab only as a last resort

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@digital scarab theyre trying to test the way the "end game" economy works so server wipes will really hurt that

reef osprey
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@digital scarab if they are necessary yes

i don't think thats an argument, they can artifically alter the state of the world whenever they can @lucid igloo

lucid igloo
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@reef osprey thats fair, i was citing some interview i saw a while ago where he mentioned not wanting to wipe uinless they really had to, i cant remember which but i think it was the timthetatman one

versed delta
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Does anyone know anything about how the Alpha and Betas will work? For example, if I get Beta 2, can I join my friends that started in Alpha 1? Will The Alpha servers get reset before launched?

surreal elk
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@digital scarab all beta and alphas will be wiped for launch.

lucid igloo
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@versed delta the servers will be seperate

versed delta
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Right, so I can't join my friends in Alpha if I get the Beta

lucid igloo
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@versed delta ill read the wiki more but i dont think so

versed delta
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That is what I thought, that makes sense to me

reef osprey
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@versed delta everything will be wiped before launch.
Alpha and beta servers are the same, so yes you can join them
Alphas will be multiple months long
Beta only a couple of weeks

final oxide
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I'm glad

versed delta
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So, Beta players can join their Alpha friends? @reef osprey

reef osprey
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yeah, its one server

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that later one becomes the test server for new post launch content

versed delta
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So all the beta and alpha players will be playing on a single server?

reef osprey
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Ai

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well, there might be regional servers

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so technically not if your friends are from EU while you are NA

rich socket
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Hello I was wondering if Alpha and Beta already have OCE/SEA server?

onyx knoll
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Only EU and NA are confirmed for alpha, they havent finalised the OCE/SEA server locations

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Bit early to tell for beta

summer elbow
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If I understand correctly, all the people with the highest "rank" on kickstarter will be in the alpha/beta?

onyx knoll
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Yes

summer elbow
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And only the highest tier or even lower ones?

onyx knoll
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Any packs that included an alpha key, i'd have to go look again

lucid igloo
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you can get access to alpha 2 still

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its on the preorder stuff

glad sleet
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Note that a2 won’t grant you access any time soon, as we are in a1

lucid igloo
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i thought we were in A0

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and a1 was for the fall

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wait

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your right my bad lol

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just not to the no nda part

desert ivy
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We're pre-alpha. Alpha 0 was 3 years ago almost

lucid igloo
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yeah i just fact checked myself on the wiki i was wrong lol

reef osprey
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a2 will start sometime in Q3 of 2021, that's my estimation at least

glad sleet
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Please note that the estimation above is a guess and isn’t based on solid facts. Only devs know when a2 will start (roughly) and they aren’t giving us dates to not create deadlines for themselves and delay dates

rich socket
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Ummm I know "Guild" will be a big thing for this game so most likely there will be guild buffs + perks like guild shop. I was wondering if there will be an equivalent perks/buff for a solo player like for example being a Bounty hunter for a certain node I can get an almost similar buff that I can get from a "Guild". I know it sound weird for a lot of people but some likes to play solo.

reef osprey
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@rich socket
it's not a game desinged around solo play and the bounty hunter system is completely separated from the guild system. You can be within a guild and be a bounty hunter.
There is no known buffs that would encourage being a solo-player though

If that's your plan, then don't expect to be rewarded for that decision. You probably won't get anything advantagous out of staying a solo player

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@rich socket however, it's not even known what kind of "guild buffs" there will be, and if they only affect guild content or the players in their every day activities

rich socket
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@reef osprey I know that would be the answer for 100% of the current MMOs right now. But I was hoping that there will be in this game so it will be not just a dream MMO for 99% of the gamers but also for the 1% that wants to have a diverse system that can support/reward solo players. Base on the facts that I saw I can join Sieges as a Solo player thats already a good start from my dreams. I wanted to come and go as I like without joining a guild.

unreal zealot
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for most content combat wise other than leveling i assume you will need some friends for a party at least but theres nothing stopping you making your free hold and soloing your artisan tree and becoming a solo weaponsmith for example.

amber plaza
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Does anybody know more about that "overenchanting" that Steven talked about in his interview with TimTheTatman? It sounded a lot like rng but I thought there wasn't gonna be any rng in crafting.

limber girder
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@rich socket My guess is that there won't be buffs for solo play, seeing as that would encourage players to stray from the multiplayer content that is the core of an MMO.

trim moon
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@amber plaza I don't know about this "no rng" in crafting

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Overenchanting is just like L2's system, for what i can tell

limber girder
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Do we know if there will be a map of possible nodes released before launch or is steven trying to keep the theory crafting to a minimum?

reef osprey
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@rich socket there will be a design, that could be interesting for you
guilds and be leveled into 2 direction (size and better buffs for its members)
You could find 5-10 other solo players to join you in one of these guilds and put a maximum points into the improvement of the guild members.

You wouldn't have to interact with them, or do content with them, you'd merely be an alliance of solo players flying under the same tag

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@limber girder he wants to keep the discovery alive as much as possible for release.
So I'd imagine that we won't get detailed informations about this

limber girder
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@reef osprey Realistically you will have to interact a bit with the guild to progress it for said buffs

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and nice, thats refreshing

abstract panther
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So they showed off flying in dungeons on stream. Was that just a GM thing or is that going to be a perk of owning a flying mount?

unreal zealot
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gm thing im sure

unkempt gale
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GM thing

reef osprey
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@amber plaza it is RNG, we don't know to what extend.
There is no RNG in crafting, but there is RNG for enchanting as it is currently

unkempt gale
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they even said it was just a GM thing @abstract panther

reef osprey
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@abstract panther only 10-20 out of 50.000 players on the server will have flying mounts

unreal zealot
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only like 10-15 people in a whole server will have flying mounts

abstract panther
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Ahh I didn't hear that

unkempt gale
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@reef osprey @unreal zealot he was asking about flying through the dungeons

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you ca get a flying mount @abstract panther , but not fly through the dungeons

unreal zealot
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@unkempt gale yes and im just expanding on my awnser

abstract panther
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So are there instanced dungeons or just open world? If they're all open world, how's it gonna work with large amounts of players in?

unkempt gale
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ah ok. sorry @unreal zealot

reef osprey
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@abstract panther 80% open world, 20% instanced

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well, you nicely ask them if they can leave the farm spots to you.

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and bash their skull in if they say no

gray oak
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has the BOW a1 started yet>?

unreal zealot
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or move deeper find a different area or leave ;3

reef osprey
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@unreal zealot i prefer the skull bashing option

rich socket
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@unreal zealot I know that mate however my concern is "if there is a guild buff" that can increase your combat and loot. So for example a guild can give you +10% combat strength. It would be nice if I can get a buff that can atleast give me 5 to 7% combat strength without joining a guild. @limber girder I don't think it would stray a lot of people since there will be plannings and everything when doing sieges. Big guilds around the world will flock this game for sure and I'm 100% sure of that. That's why i'm on the 1% weird gamers who wants a solo gaming in an MMO. @reef osprey their name will still be attached to me. I don't like to have sigil or anything like that.

abstract panther
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Concerned they're gonna be PvP murder zones. Are there any systems in place besides the corruption system to deter this? Or is it just purely social bargaining?

grave kernel
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For instanced content, how do you guys feel about there being 8, 16 and 40 as opposed to something like 5, 10 and 25?

reef osprey
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@rich socket that's understandable.
I wouldn't be too worried about direct combat buffs though. Most of the perks they mentioned are desinged around guild wars and castle sieges

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@grave kernel factor 8 makes sense if there are 8 base classes

unreal zealot
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@rich socket well i doubt it will be somthing major like that tbh maybe like increase crit chance by 2% not 5 or 7%, and maybe things like faster gathering or you gather more from 1 mining spawn.

grave kernel
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So you think it should increase when they add more classes? I don't think the expectation is to have one of each class in instanced content anyway, right?

silk steppe
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Do we know what the tank augments going to be like ?

reef osprey
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@abstract panther a well designed corruption system is all you need, no reason to make it overly complicated.
mostly social bargaining though (out of my experience form similar games)

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@silk steppe no, we get that information with alpha 2, which is like a year away

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@grave kernel that's exactly what they design it around actually

silk steppe
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Year 😱, is it truth that the game only is launching in 3 years ?

reef osprey
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@grave kernel preferably 1 of each base archetype per group

grave kernel
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That sounds like it will be difficult to get

reef osprey
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@silk steppe i'd more estimate 2 years from now

unreal zealot
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@silk steppe earliest the community is guessing is q3 or q4 2022 early 2023

rich socket
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another question mates. is there a website or forum where I can send suggestions?

amber plaza
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I assume having rogue as your secondary archetype would not let you find hidden doors?

silk steppe
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Oof , we are in a deep need of a good mmo

reef osprey
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@amber plaza they are said to be primary only. However, i don't think finding a rogue will be hard. It's one of the most popular classes in all pvp games

silk steppe
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Is there much missing to be 2-3 years of progress still? What else they adding ?

unreal zealot
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you can preorder into the alpha 2 or beta 1 or beta 2 if you want to support it (you dont have to tho steven is funding the game to completion anyway) and help them test the game ans such

reef osprey
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@silk steppe we don't know how much they have, they keep it tight. We'll get first peaks with the Alpha 1 live streams

silk steppe
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Only big content creatirs are getting access to alpha 1 correct ? Where can you apply for it ?

reef osprey
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@rich socket yes, the official ashes forum, just google the website.

silk steppe
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So by preordering i get access to alpha 2 and betas ?

unreal zealot
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$375 for that pack with extra cosmetics and game tiem and ingame currency for the cosmetic only shop

reef osprey
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@silk steppe early backers, friends and family as well as content creators most likely
correct, up to Alpha 2 is purchsable currently

unreal zealot
silk steppe
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Early backers you mean the 375 package ?

reef osprey
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@silk steppe Alpha 1 was 500 back in the days

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Alpha 2 is starting at 250

unreal zealot
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have a look at the website and yeh 250 is alpha 2 i missed that lol

reef osprey
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@silk steppe Steven hinted, that Alpha 1 access could become purchaseable in the future once more, depending on how smoothly testing proceeds with the current A1 testers

silk steppe
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Wait i am hell of confused i was considering getting the 375 one that doesnt not include alpha 1? Only 2?

unreal zealot
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alpha 1 sales doesnt exist anymore

onyx knoll
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Alpha 1 sales are closed

unreal zealot
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only if you kickstarted or bought the pack before it was closed

reef osprey
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@silk steppe both the 250 and 375 only grant alpha 2.

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Alpha 1 sales are closed currently, but might return in the future depending on their testing needs

silk steppe
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Rip

reef osprey
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but that's a big if

unreal zealot
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if it doesnt interest you to buy it right now people will be streaming without ndas by the end of the year

silk steppe
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Welp sucks to wait 2-3 years for what it looks like an amazing game already. But hopefully the wait will be worth it

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I will buy it but i like to stream and test it for myself

proven root
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alpha 2 isnt thaaaat far away if you really wanna jump into it early

silk steppe
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Like how far away we talking about monkaHmm

reef osprey
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yeah alpha 2 should be like a year, maybe a bit longer

silk steppe
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Cause i been in alphas of pretth much a lot of games

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A yesr is too far

unreal zealot
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q3 ealiest next year so probably a year i guess lol

silk steppe
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I need it now monkaHmm

unreal zealot
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we all need it now lol

silk steppe
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Truth

proven root
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im sure itll be worth the wait

slim forge
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I May be making the most cliche question ever, but do you guys have any predictions to when the game will be lunched ? maybe mid 2021 ?

proven root
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im thorn between testing it early and buying a pack or waiting till full release to not ruin the discovery

silk steppe
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@proven root my worry would be the tast of wanting more

desert ivy
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@slim forge Mid-Late 2022

proven root
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oof, no @slim forge, at least 2 years

slim forge
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Aight thanks guys 🙂

desert ivy
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Mid 2021 will probably be Alpha 2 or something

grave kernel
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I know Steven talked about having hybrids, but is there info on how flexible they will be in terms of the trinity? If you want do Tank do you have to go Tank, or can you legitimately compete if you go Fighter/Tank?

desert ivy
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Tank primary will always be the best tank

proven root
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probably ^

desert ivy
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If you go tank secondary you may be able to off-tank

winter bane
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Is ashes of creation going to effectively utilize multi core multi thread cpus or is it the same ol single core with minimal offload to other cores

silk steppe
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How good you guys think paladin or guardian will be ? Will defo go down thag road

proven root
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doesnt matter how good it is, the important is that you enjoy it!

grave kernel
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I figured, but I was hoping there may be more than one primary class for it. Although I understand that it would be very difficult to balance

proven root
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see the bright side, if somehow its not good because elitists decided it wasnt S tier, less players will play your class, making it more unique 🙂

unreal zealot
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#aoc-discussion is the place to talk if your not asking anymore questions about the game.

silk steppe
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I am a sweaty hardcore @proven root it needs to be good 😂

proven root
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Then theres really no way to know yet

winter bane
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Is ashes of creation going to effectively utilize multi core multi thread cpus or is it the same ol single core with minimal offload to other cores @idle siren

hushed flume
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Will there be methods of breeding mounts built for caravan travel?

sacred tangle
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It being bad would be good because then it'll get buffed and you'll be the only one

grave kernel
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Unless it doesn't get buffed

digital vessel
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Will there be any sort of voice chat? Perhaps a proximity voice chat? 😉

unreal zealot
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@winter bane its being made in unreal 4 so im guess whatever that engine specializes in is what they are looking at and you can get a guestamate of how the game might run from other unreal 4 games MAYBE

onyx knoll
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@hushed flume yes, the animal husbandry job will be able to breed mount that fits certain needs

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@digital vessel there will be group voice chat, but at the moment they are saying no to proximity voice

digital vessel
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@onyx knoll Thx :)

torpid tangle
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For combat did they mention anything about back attacks, or sneaking crits?

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primarily in pvp*

floral iris
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there will be certain skill modifiers that may apply extra damage if attacking from behind
Steven mentioned something briefly about this in his AMA

onyx knoll
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I know headshots will be crits but idk about sneak/back

torpid tangle
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hmmm headshots chinkin

floral iris
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so i'm guessing if you're a rogue, you'll have access to extra damage stuff if attacking from behind, you cheeky monkey :p

onyx knoll
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I wouldnt be surprised if rogue had some kind of back/sneack dmg bonus

torpid tangle
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if so I'll be happy

onyx knoll
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Rogue will be revealed later tho so you'll have to wait a bit more for confirmation :P

floral iris
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tank+rogue = shield throw back stab? oooo

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what a joke that would be haha

torpid tangle
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lul my combo will be mega broken 100%

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no details till it happens tho

naive goblet
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if i bought this months 375 pack and wanted next months skins around how much would thr skins be for next month?

dull ruin
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for all of them i hear its around 115-125usd

naive goblet
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Ah damn okay

low lantern
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@onyx knoll headshots being crits might not make it into game

crystal beacon
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Headshots on a mmo doesnt seem right then its more of a fps mmp

dull ruin
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you may not want all of them though so you could end up spending much less @naive goblet

low lantern
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They said they are leaning away from headshot Frits

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Crits

naive goblet
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Thats true thanks acSmileyHeart

reef osprey
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@naive goblet 125 all in all

just wait till you find skins you like

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@low lantern that would be a nightmare to balance, i don't like the idea either

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it was a nice idea to consider, but not something that was very likely

crystal beacon
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I have a question about kiting with ranged classes is the movement combat style like eso bc in that game you dont typically kite like tab target games you shoot an arrow and you run towards your enemy with while switching to a 2 hand which is what i dont like i like pure range so will there be some type of disengage or reverse jump to help rangers kite?

reef osprey
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there will be yes

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bear traps, reverse jumps etc. have all been seen in the ranger set of abilities

knotty dew
dawn depot
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How in depth is the guild emblem creation going to be?

worn elk
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Will the next round of cosmetics be revealed soon?

dapper sleet
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Exactly what I was going to ask haha

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Probably has been answered a lot of times though

royal fulcrum
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@worn elk I believe it will be on Aug 5th

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@dapper sleet ^

dapper sleet
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After they have removed the current one? :c

clear badge
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I am late to this party and wanted to kickstart for the braver of worlds package X2, is there anything comparable for my gf and I to help alpha test in p1

dapper sleet
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Not currently no :/ You cannot do anything to obtain A1 keys as of right now

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That might be sUbjEcT tO cHanGE of course but we'll just have to see

lavish crow
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Will there be a system to limite the actions of profession (eg : labor system in Archeage) and do we know the degree of complexity of profession compared to a game like Archeage?

sweet void
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God no, that made AA pay to win tbh

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The professions is going to be in depth. There can only be a few master crafters i the region based on ur ranking on the society ur profession is in

sinful mortar
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dungeon layout isn't procedurally generated I guess?

sweet void
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No i dont think so but location and type may vary depending on the node it is in as well as the nodes lvl. Yeaterdays development update showed a lvl 10 dungeon. It was pretty huge

woeful socket
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actually speaking of dungeons, i watched the recent video and it looked like they just walked in to dungeons. is dungeon content going to be instanced at all? or will only larger raids going to be instanced?

pseudo nest
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do we know if potion launchers will be in the game yet?

dark jungle
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no

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maybe

sweet void
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actually speaking of dungeons, i watched the recent video and it looked like they just walked in to dungeons. is dungeon content going to be instanced at all? or will only larger raids going to be instanced?
@woeful socket i dont think that was instanced.

pseudo nest
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it sounds sick

dark jungle
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they are thinking about how it will balance with the mmo

sweet void
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do we know if potion launchers will be in the game yet?
@pseudo nest a u mean like a grenade launcher but for potions?

woeful socket
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so some may be and some might not? that would be interesting to see guilds contesting bosses and whatnot

dark jungle
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the level 10 dragon boss dungeon in A1 early testing isnt instanced

woeful socket
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ah ok

sweet void
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That lvl 10 dungeon was huge enough so it might take while for people to own rooms

pseudo nest
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@sweet void i think so. apparently its in the BR already?

sweet void
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@sweet void i think so. apparently its in the BR already?
@pseudo nest apparently there is but its fire and frost for now

noble sparrow
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Hello, im pretty new on the discord server, but, i was wondering: are some of the animations place holders? While the graphics and VFX are looking incredibly nice, i feel like the animations are looking fairly stiff in some of the footage i have watched, Sometimes lacking weight and "wham" to them

sinful mortar
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yeah, alpha is like that

sweet void
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Yes it is still subject to change based on alpha1 feedback

eternal glade
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The game is in development remember

sweet void
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It will still go thru multiple iterations until launch.

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Although seeing the ild character model on 2017 vs now, i kinda like the stocky build of 2017

noble sparrow
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Thanks for the information :] i just wanted to be sure of course

sweet void
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How in depth is the guild emblem creation going to be?
@dawn depot no updates regaring guild customization

dawn depot
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would it be a stretch to @ steven and see if he would grace us with his opinion?

sweet void
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He pops up from time to time

craggy mist
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Here is a question. Can we gift alpha keys to someone? For instance in my inventory I have alpha one and an alpha two. Can I gift that Alpha two, or will it be required for me to play the Alpha 2. As in, the Alpha 1 key does not just open the door from that point to the rest. I know there is a system to gift the extra beta keys, so this was on my mind. Thanks!

stable plover
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@craggy mist The individual alpha/beta keys from pre-order packs aren't giftable (Some KS packs did come with giftable beta keys)

craggy mist
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Ok thank you very much 🙂

sweet void
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So far no since u have to buy the pack on ur account and theres no option to gift packs

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Sorry i had to look at the website to be sure

azure knot
sweet void
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Yes. Again that was the only publisher that agrees to have zero control on cash shops

hybrid mica
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Eu here going for na

azure knot
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thats sad, Archege RU region was ruined by poor management of mailru

knotty dew
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@azure knot nothing is this world is ever final

sweet void
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Thats been covered alot on the discussion tab

azure knot
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oh well, maybe NA servers will be close to east coast LUL

sweet void
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Sea reguon here but im playing at an NA server at launch. Ill have 250 ping and will get wrecked in pvp probably.

azure knot
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that sucks, all of EU have ~120 ping to east coast, so its totally playable in mmo

sweet void
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Well ive learned to deal with it over the years

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Just dont ask me to tank or heal

past pawn
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Alpha 2 phase is planned for Fall of this year, yes?

pliant ocean
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Alpha 1 is Fall 2020

sweet void
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Alpha1

past pawn
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Ahhh hrm...And the current Alpha 2 bundle up now, due to end on the 5th will be the last Alpha 2 bundle or?

sweet void
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No update on that yet. Just cosmetics will change on the next pack

eternal glade
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Where are you living to reach 250 ping

sweet void
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Philippines

past pawn
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Gotcha. Been on the fence about buying in and wasn't sure if it was like the last day to do so, or if just the cosmetic bundle rotated out

eternal glade
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Uh yeah i guess thats pretty far from na servers

sweet void
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Yeah but ive learned to play with it. Its not too much of a hassle

eternal glade
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Cant imagine playing at 250 ping when im used to 50-60

sweet void
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I got good at being a cannon fodder

clear sedge
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Is ping going to be important in this game. ?

sweet void
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Well there is pvp on the open world so yeah it is kinda important

clear sedge
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Ahhh hopefully my ping to the server isn't bad

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As long as they pick west coast as the location it should be good I think lml

desert ivy
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There will be both west coast and east coast US servers

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Maybe a central server as well

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but East and West 100%

sweet void
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And hopefully a streamer server

woven sand
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ok so the pre order packs are marsh orc themed and if i'm understanding this right that theme changes on the 5th correct?

clear sedge
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Why would you want a streamer server ?

sweet void
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Hopefully steven puts all the streamers on a single server and watch the thing implode

sinful mortar
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what's the reason for playing on the NA server instead of SEA from Philippines? timezone?

sweet void
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ok so the pre order packs are marsh orc themed and if i'm understanding this right that theme changes on the 5th correct?
@woven sand yes it changes on august 5

quasi walrus
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so are the outfits in the store like costumes from ESO? or do u need to transmog individual items in order to get the look?

sweet void
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what's the reason for playing on the NA server instead of SEA from Philippines? timezone?
@sinful mortar peace of mind

desert ivy
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@quasi walrus The shop costumes are 1 costume. You can't pick individual pieces

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All or nothing for them

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but there will be transmog for individual pieces in game

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just not for the store cosmetics

stable plover
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The accessory from the low tier each month is an individual piece.

quasi walrus
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@desert ivy ah ok thank you

sinful mortar
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I don't really follow how that can give peace of mind

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my experience in playing on US servers is not being able to use skills or entire classes because they don't work right, I'd love to have SEA servers in this game for once

sweet void
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I don't really follow how that can give peace of mind
@sinful mortar sea servers tend to be toxic and has a lot of griefers. I like to play when there is less population in game so NA server fits the bill

sinful mortar
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ok, I can understand that

gray tusk
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is the game out yet?where can I download it from?

desert ivy
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Wait 2 years, then check back

sweet void
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is the game out yet?where can I download it from?
@gray tusk u can join the testers for alpha2 and beta which will happen next year if u can to try the game early. Although it wont be the final iteration of the game

proper veldt
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are u accepting suggestions?

quasi walrus
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has there been any talk of lootboxes or any gamble mechanics in the cash shop?

desert ivy
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No, those don't exist

sweet void
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are u accepting suggestions?
@proper veldt on what?

desert ivy
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If your suggestion is to add something new to the game, then they most likely won't as they want to avoid scope creep

sweet void
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has there been any talk of lootboxes or any gamble mechanics in the cash shop?
@quasi walrus cash shops will be purely cosmetics. None of the funy stuff

desert ivy
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If it's a change to an existing mechanic, post it on the forums

stable plover
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@proper veldt Suggestions preferably go on the forum

proper veldt
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k

quasi walrus
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@sweet void ah ok thank you

burnt nymph
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Guys i have the most important question will earring and rings be visible like ffxiv ??

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Steven tell me yes pls 👽

sweet void
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Havent see the full equipment set yet. what they are working on is to mesh rhe different types of armor tiers so u dont look like frankenstein

burnt nymph
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But i want earring and ring to be visible that why i played ffxiv lol 😆 steven make it happen

sweet void
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Suggestions are to be posted in the forum.

crisp holly
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Currently we have been told 8 Armor, 5 Jewelry, 2 Weapons, and 1 Ranged slot

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There might be earrings out of that jewelry but nothing is for sure yet

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2 earrings, 2 rings, and 1 neckless seems like a likely way for them to go for Jewelry

sweet void
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He asks if its visible on the character same as ff14.

crystal beacon
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Do we know which 5 classes will be in A1?

crisp holly
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It will likely depend on if you are wearing a skin or something but I'd bet/guess that yes that will be visible

sweet void
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Do we know which 5 classes will be in A1?
@crystal beacon i think its 4, fighter, rogue, mage and cleric

crystal beacon
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ty

sweet void
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They might incoporate the rest on alph2 including races and the 2nd classes

crisp holly
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@crystal beacon By the end of A1 they intend to have all 8 in so that A2 can be for the full classes

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If they follow the time line that we have been given

proper veldt
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in which section of the forum can I post a suggestion?

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(its a minor one)

brittle vector
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I cant remember where but i think i heard alpha 1 to be by the new year? Is this accurate?

wild marsh
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@brittle vector It's still set for Fall 2020 last I heard.

crisp holly
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A1 will be starting 'Fall 2020'

low lantern
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Steven said 5 classes for A1

crisp holly
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So we should be seeing A1 streams in the next few months

low lantern
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And because the original plan was all 8 I’d assume we see the rest before A1 ends

wild marsh
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That should be the case. @crisp holly

crisp holly
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5 classes for the start of A1 but they will be doing all 8 Archetypes by the end

stable plover
lapis tree
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so whats going to be the AOE hitter in AOC though?

brittle vector
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Cool, i might be hallucinating but i thought he mentioned it was gonna be near the newyear during the last livestream

stable plover
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"Fall" goes from Sep 22nd-Dec 21st

crisp holly
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@lapis tree We don't know for sure but I'd guess heavy/main AOE will be Mage

potent merlin
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Is Development update stream/vid a monthly thing?

opal sphinx
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Will there be spears and lances to equip as a weapon ? Sort of similar to a dragoon

stable plover
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@potent merlin Yes, usually the last Friday of every month has the development livestream (It might get moved to like a Thursday, exact times are announced about a week in advance)

wild marsh
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@opal sphinx Polearms Halberds, Spears, Lances, and Rapiers are on the list.

opal sphinx
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Thank u !

crystal beacon
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Has the combat been updated?

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In the sense that it was really slow paced in the last gameplay

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And the mana replenish

clear sedge
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This is really early game footage @crystal beacon it still needs a lot of tweaking and polishing

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Expect it to change a lot especially maybe after alpha 1

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When they get all the feedback from players

earnest hatch
#

Hey if i buy one of the preorder Packs can i still get the benefits if my acc will be on an eu-server ?

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since eu will have another publisher with my.com ...

untold maple
#

The devs have often discussed data stuff and heatmaps used for balancing and adjusting prices of certificates... Have they shown off any tools they intend to use for this?

rigid rose
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@untold maple No they have not... they possibly will not as they will not want people to have the info to use to exploit 🙂

untold maple
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I don't think alpha island would provide any info exploitable at release from that...

dreamy latch
#

Has Steven ever said what Lineage 2 server he played on, or what clan/alliance he was in? Or what his character name was?

desert ivy
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His guild for 15 years was The White Order

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His name was Sorcerer I think

crystal beacon
#

Do we know around where they want the TTK?

desert ivy
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30 seconds to a minute

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For 1v1s

candid lava
#

Will I be able to hire NPC Guards anytime I want or will they only be hireable after/during certain events?

bold storm
#

so when is the going to be release?

stable plover
bold storm
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the game*

west copper
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unknown

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Alpha 1 will start within the next few months

stable plover
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@bold storm A1 is going to release near the end of the year, no official dates after A1

bold storm
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because im deciding if im goong to play shadowlands or ashes

soft lance
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Ashes won't be out before shadowlands.

fickle island
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Yeah no way

west ridge
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mmmhm, by the time aoc is released the next expansion after shadowlands will be revealed or even in beta

slow sluice
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Yep

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Im guessing it will be at least a year or more

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before aoc

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gets dropped

fickle island
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2 is optimistic in my opinionv

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End of the year 2022 If was a betting man

slow sluice
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yeah they should take their time with the best mmo

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ever

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eh

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i honestly think late 2021 or june 2022

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is a good

#

goa

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goal

west copper
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honestly we have to see how alpha 1 goes and how the game plays before estimating

fickle island
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Well if alpha 1 Is at the end of this year and they're planning an alpha 2 and 2 betas

slow sluice
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but ya never know hope they take their time, definitely support that

west ridge
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yeah i dont want it to be liek full of bugs and shit

soft lance
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I'd be careful calling a game that's not out yet "the best ever". Setting yourself up for disappointment.

bold storm
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then i should play shadowlands to kill some time til aoc release

slow sluice
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@soft lance i mean

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considering everything that was promised

fickle island
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I'm being optimistic that itll be a playable mmo beyond that I refuse to buy into the hype

wild marsh
inner oyster
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Shad OMEGALUL wlands

slow sluice
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i have been disappointed by every mmo

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to date

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so nothing new to me😆

soft lance
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Lot's of people promise things. And same, every mmo i've played is just the same copy paste with some new flashy character creator or combat system etc. Hopefully this one will actually be something enjoyable.

dapper jasper
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How are weapon placements going to go?

For example: Dual one-handed swords. Will they be placed on the back or hip?
For a bow and arrow, will the quiver be on the upper back or lower back?

steady ocean
slow sluice
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@soft lance i feel more comfortable than every to say that one of us is head developing this game

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All we can do is sit back and hope

dapper jasper
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@steady ocean Oh sweet! Thanks!

old ermine
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What kinds of stats are we working with in the game that we would see on gear? Like we have the basics of strength, intellect, agility, etc. Do we also have secondary stats, or will things be kept to main stats?

soft lance
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That gives me a question, will certain gear be class locked? That's something I hate.

fickle island
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No

steady ocean
slow sluice
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nope i

fickle island
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No class or race locking

old ermine
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Thank you!

fickle island
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Or anything like that

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A dwarven mage can wear the same thing as a orc fighter or tank. Will it make sense for them to probably not because of stats but they can do it.

slow sluice
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its awesome you can be anything you want, obviously there will be certain advantages to whatever you want to pick because im guessing races haver certain perks, but no class or race locking

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You think they will stick with the 4 races for launch or add more?

steady ocean
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I doubt they will add more than the current 8 choices

inner oyster
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Not locking Armor to classes will be a hell of balancing but im Hyped to play hybrid stuff

hallow venture
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We get racial augments on abilities

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In a similar way to second class augments

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According to the wiki

soft lance
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As long as I can be an elf i'm happy. Can't wait to have a nationalistic guild.

slow sluice
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yeah i doubt it too @steady ocean was just wondering too be honest.

fickle island
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There will be a ninth

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It was a kickstarter goal

steady ocean
crystal beacon
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Well it’ll probably balance out with all of class customization. Won’t be surprised tho if (melee primary/magic secondary) happens to do the highest crits/damage.

fickle island
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They'll be the telnar

wild marsh
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@slow sluice Technically there's 9 races if you count the sub races of each race. Humans (Kaelar & Vaelune) Elves (Empyrean & Py'Rai) Orc (Ren'Kai & Vek) Dwarves (Dunir & Nikua) and then Tulnar

old ermine
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I'm curious about set armor, if it's going to be a thing and how it will work. Would set bonuses just be stat bonuses, or would those be linked to certain classes/builds? I like the idea of set armor being a little more exclusive

slow sluice
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@wild marsh well its just a different kind of society im sure? maybe im wrong, but its the same race

steady ocean
slow sluice
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oh you said sub race

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nah you good

old ermine
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lol looks like I need to read the wiki more

steady ocean
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Oh yeah 🙂

crystal beacon
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Is there an idea on what the hunter sub class will look like if there are any ideas? Was thinking about being beast master (prim summon/hunter sec) on release and was wondering.

wild marsh
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I don't think so @crystal beacon There's not much on most of the classes and sub classes at the moment.

old ermine
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Do we know if the UI will be modular, or how customizable it will be? No mods/addons means we gotta be happy with what we get

red jetty
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there are no addons

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or mods

crystal beacon
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@wild marsh thank you!

old ermine
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Right, which is why I want to know if the UI can be changeable in the game options

wild marsh
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@old ermine "The Ashes of Creation user interface (UI) is built with customization in mind."

red jetty
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@old ermine yes I do remember steven saying something about a highly custimizable ui

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yeah

wild marsh
old ermine
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Oh good to know. I've been very turned off by UIs in other games before, good to hear thanks guys

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How are action bars/abilities going to work? Is it like we'll have a loadout that we can't change in combat and we customize out of combat, or will we have more action bars?

wild marsh
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You'll be able to build your characters active skills and place them how you want in the action bar. You'll also be able to include multiple hotbars/action bars. You must also chose the skills you want as you level up, so it seems that it will be very customizable.

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However, I don't see anything about being able to change it in combat, so I'm not sure if it will only be out of combat.

old ermine
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OK so we have access to everything at all times, but what we use will likely be determined by what we put skill points into

earnest hatch
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Hey guys, does anyone know if there will be addon support like in WoW for example ?

wild marsh
old ermine
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I asked because I really liked the way Wildstar did theirs, where you have limited action bar space and you can only bring a set number of abilities to any combat. That way you changed things on the fly in order to customize for the fight

wild marsh
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There will be no third party addons or mods @earnest hatch

old ermine
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@earnest hatch No addons

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Thank you Xyphien

earnest hatch
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Thanks very happy about that @old ermine @wild marsh

old ermine
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There seems to be a mixed reception about the no addons thing, so good to hear

wild marsh
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@late vale In most games with a trinity like Magic, Range and Melee, Armor is weak against Magic but effective against range, cloth being good against magic, but not melee, etc. OSRS for example has a very similar system to that.

proven root
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its a rock paper scissors thing like steven said, same with the elements, X beats Y, Y beats Z... etc

earnest hatch
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@old ermine One can see how dependent you have become in game like WoW. Up to the point were you can´t play the game without it so hearing that such a thing dosen´t become part of this game is nice to hear ^^.

old ermine
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@earnest hatch I think the best reasoning I heard was from Steven, when he said that the min maxing that addons and DPS meters allows for just makes things really exclusive. While people use it to help improve, it just as easily becomes a tool to exclude people from raids/dungeons. I've only played games that had DPS meters or allowed addons, so I'm interested in how the game will play at high levels without that dynamic

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Sorry for not asking questions in the questions channel. I'll stop now!

twin basin
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same way it works in ff14

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everyone uses them and nobody cares until someone attacks someone about their dps

crystal beacon
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Hey hey ppl.When is the next pack coming?

steady ocean
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Aug 5th @crystal beacon

crystal beacon
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Thx

steady ocean
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Please stop spamming

slow sky
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Please keep this channel to Questions and Answers only. If you’re passionate about further discussion feel free to move to the lovely discussion channels #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion Thank you. remVV\

dapper jasper
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Are nodes predetermined to be Economic/Scientific/Military/or Divine? Or how are they chosen?

wild marsh
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They are, as for how they're chosen I'm unsure of that.

dapper jasper
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Ah okay

wild marsh
dapper jasper
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@wild marsh Thanks!

crystal beacon
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Hey, sorry about the spamming.

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It was my daughter

rapid roost
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Hi any info on what the next pack will include?

steady ocean
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Not yet @rapid roost Keep an eye on #news and the devs may give us a heads up

rapid roost
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kk

rain robin
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Hi all 🙂 Is there an ETA on when we will get some insight into all the classes their core skills? 😄

wild marsh
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More than likely Alpha 1 Gameplay

dull anvil
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Hey guys how are you doing? Just came in my mind, will be the gathered resources always shining, or will be obscure and only after you gathered for the first time they will start to shine?

wild marsh
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From the gameplay it looked like they will have visual effects on them automatically

dull anvil
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The game will be featured a martial artist class? Like a monk? I cannot find the classes combination to see if has anything like that

mellow jolt
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I'm sure this is asked a lot, but is there any info on when alpha 2 will be available?

wild marsh
dull anvil
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O ty @wild marsh

wild marsh
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@mellow jolt Nope, people are still wanting to know the exact date of alpha 1

crystal beacon
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what do u get for pking someone
do u get their stuff

mellow jolt
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@wild marsh 😭 thanks tho

rain robin
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@mellow jolt Aplha 1 is this Fall more or less (around October, November) Alpha 2 does not have a date yet but based on the development and the progress they are making I would say that it will be around April - July

wild marsh
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Depends on their corruption level @crystal beacon if they have corruption they have a higher chance of dropping stuff. If you have none, then it will be just a chance for gathered items

mellow jolt
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@rain robin soooo next year, rip. Thanks

crystal beacon
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is it suppose to be hard to just pk everyone since ur stats will get worse? like they dont want people to go on rampages basically

rain robin
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@rain robin soooo next year, rip. Thanks
@mellow jolt yup, I am waiting for stage 2 as well 🙂 so we are in the same boat 😄

heavy steeple
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Basic answer is Yes Bloodmasked

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It's supposed to get harder

crystal beacon
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i can imagine that making sense if u are killing noobs but if u kill people similar or higher level than you shouldnt u get less corruption

heavy steeple
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Yes

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That's how it works

crystal beacon
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yea cool

mellow jolt
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@rain robin I wish I had bought a pack when I first heard of this game. I went all in as much as I could last week for buying into it. Only was able to get alpha 2 access at the most.😭

rain robin
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@mellow jolt I have regretted the exact same thing ... every single day 😄 but I was low on cash back them 😛 got a new job now 😄

mellow jolt
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@rain robin I was just super iffy back then. It seems pretty solid now.

hardy crystal
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why the fuck is there family fast travel

rain robin
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@mellow jolt True, I think a lot of people were holding off. Especially after the other MMO drama's and star citizen still being a far away fantasy 😛

mellow jolt
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@rain robin I bought into star citizen too.... oof

rain robin
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@mellow jolt I got a refund on that 😮 I gave up and now that Elite Dangerous which cost 24.99 has all the features SC has I just bought that

zealous atlas
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These are not questions

mellow jolt
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@zealous atlas neither is that. But mine stemmed from one.

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@rain robin he is half right though. Thanks for your answer friendo.

rain robin
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My pleasure 🙂 Hihi 😄

zealous atlas
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Very limited family fast travel

crystal beacon
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dual universe is kinda similar to ashes of creation, but its more sandbox than a MMORPG

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star citizen i saw they just put first person shooter elements in it

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kinda random

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is there gameplay of the skill shots, like is it actually aiming in 3rd person or is it like WoW where its just an aoe looking thing

hardy crystal
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@zealous atlas how is the famility fast travel limited ?

crystal beacon
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wow can all wikis do that

steady ocean
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If someone takes a screen shot/copies the pic/includes the link then maybe

crystal beacon
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oh i thought discord did it automagically

steady ocean
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That would be nice 😄

zealous atlas
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@hardy crystal Long casting and cool down along with a cap allowed in a single family

twin basin
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will i ever get over the pain of missing out on the snow owl bear cosmetic?

sweet blade
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same but for plague doctor aesthetic

hardy crystal
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@zealous atlas what cap ? amount of people in an family ? or summons per family ?

stuck minnow
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he's referring to the cap on the amount of people that can be summoned with the family summon ability @hardy crystal

hardy crystal
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so whats the cap

stuck minnow
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Of people in a family?

steady ocean
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8 people per summon, 8 people per family

hardy crystal
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thats so stupid

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intrepids designs are flying out the window 1 by 1

real sleet
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@crystal beacon there will be taptargeted skills and 'skillshots' as well. I'll see if I find an example for the latter.

steady ocean
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@hardy crystal scroll up to the image i linked, there are some limits to summoning. It's not so bad

hardy crystal
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still shit, the world was supposed to matter. now clans are just gona organize their families or even demand you being in an clan family just for summons

steady ocean
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Share your opinion/reasoning on the official forum with some constructive criticism and perhaps your ideas can gain some support

real sleet
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@crystal beacon : this is from the Wiki: 'Crowd control

Crowd control (CC/mezzing) abilities include root, snare, stun, sleep and slow.[95][93]

There will be diminishing returns on stuns, sleep and slows so as to avoid stun locking.[93][96]

Crowd control won't likely be tab-targeted skills. This is to avoid imbalanced combos with skill shot (action targeted) abilities.[97]

Summoner's summons will be able to use crowd control.[98]

Hard CC's are stuns, knock downs, sleeps, paralysis, some roots, some silences.[99]

Hard CCs may be housed in action oriented skills because they are skill shots that are more difficult to land.[100][97]'

hardy crystal
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@steady ocean well, better not say theres almsot 0 fast travel, or 0 P2W and then impelemt teleport systems and headstart

steady ocean
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They have always said there is "limited fast travel", and it is. There are teleporters scientific nodes can build that lets you teleport to the nodes under its control; and there there are family summons. Two forms of fast travel

hardy crystal
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teleportation from nodes that are maintained and actualy progressed to that stage are WAY difrent than free all access family teleportation.
what if you just log alt account to towns and teleport gooods from town to town ?

steady ocean
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You can only hold a limited amount of goods in your inventory, but this is better suited for #aoc-discussion

hardy crystal
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@steady ocean yes, but its totaly risk free

steady ocean
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gathering the materials isn't, last I'll say on it.

hardy crystal
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and ?

slow iris
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One of your family members is still going to have to travel where they summon you and traveling alone makes you an easy target. You also cant switch families willy nilly believe it a couple day cool down switching

peak plover
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will high ping au/nz affect my gameplay much, especially in pvp?

stuck minnow
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@peak plover I imagine that it would depend on your class, if it uses mostly tab targeted abilities you should be fine. I think it would also be hard to dodge enemy skill shots

crystal beacon
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nz will be okay if its california server

errant chasm
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they're gona have an oce server i think and a good part of skills will be aimed so idk how that'll play with ping

crystal beacon
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particularly auckland NZ

silk fractal
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what were the classes available so far for the pre alpha 1 testing phase that happened

slow sky
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pre-alpha 1 has not happened for the August testing yet, not sure what classes were available in prior tests i wasn't really able to participate but they've said 5/8 primary classes should be in the alpha 1 so i would assume those 5 classes

plucky ivy
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Do we happen to know if there will be unique quests in the world that may only be unlocked through certain conditions and once completed, will dissappear permanently? Would be really interesting to have to players randomly stumble upon a unique quest, or once they complete certain conditions like slaying X amount of some mobs, it gets unlocked for them and they can be the first to do it and get some special title or item in regards to that quest.

little lance
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when you choose your secondary class at 25 does your look begin to merge the styles of those 2 classes together? so that you look like youre an X + X rather than just looking like a fighter but actually having 2 things.

uneven folio
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How much can you will be able to downgrade grafics and resolution, because expecting that many players with those spells (saw your last video) people with not a super pc is going to have a bad time. Cheers waiting for more news imawesome2

crystal beacon
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Hello again guys.Do we know who is the creative director for the game?

dull ruin
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steven is

crystal beacon
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Oh i see.Then..who does the dope art for the game

abstract panther
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Any lore released thus far? I know Steven's touched on it a bit.

zinc lava
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Maybe someone knows all quest going to be sounded ? i mean dialogues

reef osprey
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@zinc lava no, don't expect much voice acting in the game,
that was willingly skipped

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@abstract panther lore is something that intrepid doesn't want to share until the launch itself

sour hinge
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Is there some class information available if there’s gonna be like some kind of shapeshifter?

mystic notch
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Will we be able to have a freehold house I believe it’s called, and a static house at the same time?

little lance
wild marsh
little lance
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no specifics on class details tho

exotic berry
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Is there some class information available if there’s gonna be like some kind of shapeshifter?
@sour hinge some people think shadowmancer will be abke to disgiuse as his summons

little lance
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do you guys know if when you choose your secondary class at 25 does your look begin to merge the styles of those 2 classes together? so that you look like youre an X + X rather than just looking like a fighter but actually having 2 things

exotic berry
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Nit confirmed tho

wild marsh
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@little lance I'd say yes. Steven used an example earlier in a livestream explaining the dramatic differences from Summoner to Necromancer would be. And with the RP and everything else that's being harped on I don't see why they wouldn't do that.

little lance
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@wild marsh yeah I would really hope its in not only bc it sounds so insanely cool but also for pvp purposes you prob need to know what the person likely could do at first glance

scarlet flower
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Will there be a class that is close to what "Titan" was/is in Lineage II?

wild marsh
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@scarlet flower Look at the class list above. See if one of those seems like it would match that

little lance
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as far as I can tell theres a class for anything you could imagine in the game

reef osprey
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@scarlet flower titan was that berserkish type class, right?
I'd look at Dreadnought for that

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maybe weapon master

scarlet flower
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Reading the titles and what they actually do will be very difficult to predict.

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Yes, the orc berserk/zealot destroyer of worlds 😄

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Yes, it does look like, Dreadnought is the closest to what this could be

earnest knoll
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Hey team, question about the artisan classes, I know you can only master one of the three trees, but does that mean with enough time you could master multiple professions in those trees?

reef osprey
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yes, with enough time you could master all the professions within one of the 3 trees
That is supposed to take a long long (long) time.

earnest knoll
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Ok cool just double checking ty!

reef osprey
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at first you'll probably focus on 1, once you are done you'll go for the next etc.
with ever increasing costs of progressing them

little lance
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is a tree considered like "all types of crafting" or what

reef osprey
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@little lance there is 3 trees

  • gathering
  • processing
  • crafting
little lance
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oooo feelsgoodman2

reef osprey
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you can master one of them with lots of time investment

little lance
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if you go into one can you do 0 of the others, or only the basics of others

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im afraid that everyone is gonna be doing animal husbandry and its gonna be oversaturated or something

earnest knoll
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That will also make it the least profitable though, they will need things from the other classes so the supply/demand in the game will encourage people to do different professions

little lance
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right that makes sense

eternal kite
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it is highly possible that proffesions will be oversaturated. You should expect that. People will take either easy ones or cooler ones like Animal H. That's why guild diversity will be important. You might only need a couple master crafters in the guild that you will invest in, a couple of processing too

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but they will be valuable

reef osprey
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you can dabble into the other professions in a basic way
but you won't make anything valueable out of it

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since everybody can just do that himself

wild marsh
earnest knoll
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I would consider what they were talking about discussion based on my question so i dont see the problem there

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Plus the talking in there has nothing to do with the game at all

humble pasture
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I am aware about the statement "a PC built within the last 4 years is going to be enough", but has it ever been stated exactly what the maximum amount of CPU cores or threads AoC will be able to utilize? For my next PC I'd like to buy the best CPU available with that amount of cores, in order to maximise performance (buying one with more cores than needed but subsequently lower per-core juice would undermine overall performance)

wild marsh
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For alpha testing minimum is

Processor: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz / AMD Phenom II X4 3.3GHz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 or AMD Radeon 6870 HD with 1GB and DirectX 12
Memory: 6 GB RAM
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB of available space
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Sound Card```

Recommended is:
```Operating System: Windows 10 64-Bit
Processor: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz / AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 or AMD Radeon R9 Fury with 4GB and DirectX 12
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB of available space
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Sound Card```
scarlet flower
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Is there a "Skill-tree" for the classes somewhere?

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To look at the skills and what they do etc...

wild marsh
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There's some skills posted on the wiki, but it's not all of them by any means.

reef osprey
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@scarlet flower not yet, wait till alpha/alpha 2 for more information on that

earnest knoll
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but not alot

reef osprey
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@humble pasture a MMO without multi threading in this day and age is pretty much suicide

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especially if you want to 250 v 250 battles

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so i'd assume so, yes

sterile fjord
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an i7-6700k is not a low model tbh

humble pasture
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I know, will definitely use at least 4 cores (also taking into account their recommended hardware pointing at a 4 cores 8 threads CPU), I'd just like to know the maximum amount of cores the game will be able to take advantage of... 8? 10? 12? 16? Depending on this number, the best CPU you can possibly buy for it changes.

upbeat jolt
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@humble pasture a MMO without multi threading in this day and age is pretty much suicide
@reef osprey bless PeterLUL

reef osprey
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@upbeat jolt bless used a non-customized version of UE3
it was a 2011 game after all

sly monolith
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i run rdr2 in ultra in 4k with 80 fpss.. im fine i guess 😄

radiant oxide
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is the upcoming test later in the year an alpha 1 or alpha 2?

sly monolith
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alpha 1 this year 2 is next year

radiant oxide
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ok so the packs in the shop selling alpha 2 access not 1 i assume is attributed to already hitting an ideal alpha 1 testing population

sly monolith
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pop for alpha 1... basicly they have enough people for it

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i think they actually had to close to the kickstarter packages @ some point

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the packages might change..in time... so i am waiting aswell till i buy alpha 2 access

mystic notch
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Will we be able to have a freehold house I believe it’s called, and a static house at the same time?

reef osprey
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@mystic notch yes

mystic notch
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Yay

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Thanks

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Will they be limiting the amount of people that can buy access to alpha-2? And if so are we approaching the cap yet?

wild marsh
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I do not see anything anywhere about it, but I thought I heard or read that it did somewhere. I'll keep looking for you though unless someone else has the information on hand.

reef osprey
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@mystic notch they will give us a heads-up soon enough if that is supposed to happen

mystic notch
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Ight, thank you both

wild marsh
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@mystic notch This was on the wiki.

mystic notch
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Oh ok thank you

little lance
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post beta 2 will all progress be reset for launch?

wild marsh
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Everything will be reset upon launch besides the head start

errant chasm
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so have they said if "mastering gathering" would just lead to procs for more items to be gathered / rarer items to spawn or is it gona be needed to get some materials like they wont be possible without master?

reef osprey
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@mystic notch Steven mentioned, that they are open to opening A1 access once more if the testing during the A1 phase proceeds smoothly
it's a big if though

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@errant chasm both

errant chasm
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so we can assume to make top end boats it's atleast going to be a 3 part process between lumberjack / mining / boat crafting all needing master?

reef osprey
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@little lance
The launch servers will be different from the Alpha/Beta server.
The Alpha/Beta server will remain as a test-server.
Whether we lose temporary access to it or its wiped, we don't know

wild marsh
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idk if you can master all three of those. Steven mentioned that you won't be able to master everything, so you will have to pick and chose what you want to do.

reef osprey
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@errant chasm you can be both a master lumberjack and miner as both are gathering professions

little lance
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ohhh its like an early access test realm for the future

silk fractal
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What is their stance on multiboxing, I know they will adress it in details in their next vod but are they against it and ban it?

errant chasm
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i know 1 player cant but im saying it'd take 3 people basically?

reef osprey
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you will need professions from all 3 trees to make a boat for example @errant chasm

wild marsh
reef osprey
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@plush zenith we don't know yet, Alpha 2 will give us more information about it.
but i think a bare minimum shouldn't be hard to reach, as you won't really do raids or sieges with your second/third/fourth pc

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@silk fractal right now you are allowed to it as long you play from seperate pcs

limpid gull
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Do we know if dungeons will have more than just one boss? And not like, raid dungeons, but basic dungeons.

silk fractal
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I hope they ban that option, unless you can prove with ID that you have several people playing the game in that same ip connection @reef osprey

reef osprey
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@limpid gull no information yet, but you can assume so, as the game that inspires AoC also has those

empty dragon
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can you guys tell me how the augmention works?

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what does the second class do to the main class?

limpid gull
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Cool, cool

crystal beacon
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Will all 8 archetypes be in alpha 1?

wild marsh
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@empty dragon They will change your class and add new stuff to it. From more unique skills, to altered gameplay all together depending on the combination. Summoner to Necromancer for example will change your spells to undead summons. Here is a class list of them so you can get a better understanding.

reef osprey
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@silk fractal i agree
doesn't even have to be through an ID. You can easily read out of the logs if someone isn't a real player. (No interaction with others, sole purpose is to farm for another account, transfers all his obtained stuff to another account, always logs in at the same time as the other account etc.)

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@silk fractal allowing it is the wrong decision imo

limpid gull
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Because I keep look at some of the older dungeon livestreams, and I'd be sad if we just had one dungeon at the very end of it. It'd be awesome if there's some that are like gatekeepers, and players would need to kill it before accessing the latter areas of the dungeon

wild marsh
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Rip to me and my GF getting banned then @reef osprey

empty dragon
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so if i choose rogue and the second class a ranger, what happens to my main class?

reef osprey
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@wild marsh how? Will your girlfriend be your slave? only finding stuff so you can progress?

wild marsh
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@empty dragon Check out that class list to see. There's not much info on them at the moment but you can see the wiki for more information.

empty dragon
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there is no information at all

silk fractal
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exactly, honestly I really hope steven keeps the human gm to monitor all that type of stuff + rmt'ing logs. Like for instance I as a player see this guy multiboxing(or the legit way of doing it with multi-pc with 10 char on follow), I report him. I want a human gm to check what I reported. This would be an instant ban for all those 10 accounts(150$ right down the drain for that person and this would not make it worth for him to do this). Same thing with RMT. With the proper human infrastructure, when you make something not worth doing, the ratio of people attempting to do it will significantly drop.

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@reef osprey

tranquil willow
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Steven did explain what happens to abilities when you add secondary class auguments

wild marsh
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@tranquil willow He didn't explain each one though, which is what he's asking. He wants to know more information for Predator

reef osprey
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@silk fractal he already said there will be human gms

silk fractal
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yes on the wiki they explain it with the fighter and mage, if your primary is a fighter you have rush/charge ability, by going with mage, the charge/rush becomes instant and blinks on the target(augments the charge with the blink part). @wild marsh

tranquil willow
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right, but you can get some ideas from his examples

silk fractal
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yeah @reef osprey I know, I'm saying I hope he goes ham on it with multiboxing too

upbeat jolt
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Steven did explain what happens to abilities when you add secondary class auguments
@tranquil willow lots of misinformation flying around because of speculation

silk fractal
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so you don't gain more skills @wild marsh it morphs your own primary abilities based on your secondary, which means all the different fighters abilities will be different to an extent based on which secondary you took

upbeat jolt
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Some say no extra skill when you get second class
Some say one extra skill.

mystic notch
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Steven said each class will have 4 augment paths for every base ability

void vortex
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Thanks you. I can't wait to ruin the game for other players
@plush zenith what a lovely ambition...

silk fractal
primal holly
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heyy

wild marsh
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Yeah, it just changes your spells to meet the bridge between the two classes. I just watched the interview that explains it better. https://youtu.be/8AeuqaELjFg?t=1h05m04s here you go if you'd like to watch it.

primal holly
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how long will the Beta Two test phase be available??

reef osprey
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@primal holly couple of weeks at most

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most likely just a few weeks

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same with Beta 1

wild marsh
primal holly
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are they now planning for alpha 2 ? or is the beta soon?

wild marsh
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Alpha 1 will be around December of this year.

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So I wouldn't say Beta is soon.

primal holly
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wait when is the game releasing?

wild marsh
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I think that's still TBA

reef osprey
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its mostly an assumption currently
@primal holly
but the popular estimates is Q3 2022

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so in about 2 years

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+/- 6months depending on the testing progress

gaunt chasm
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Hold on I thought alpha 1 was this month? Not December

reef osprey
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@gaunt chasm alpha 1 for braver of worlds + backers

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so just a few people to prepare for the real alpha 1

glad sleet
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Full alpha towards end of fall

gaunt chasm
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Ah ok, so is the alpha 1 thats this month still under no NDA?

main raptor
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Will AoC have an AA-inspired fishing system? Will guilds be doing guild runs to find and hold fishing hot spots? Will I be able to catch my fish, load my boat up with them, and pray I don't get ganked coming into port?

reef osprey
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real alpha 1 can be expected to start in NOV/DEZ of this year

wild marsh
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I believe all Alpha 1 and up are non NDA

silk fractal
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do we know what are the 5 classes that will be available in alpha 1?

little lance
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@main raptor as far as i know on the contesting front, yes, dont know about boat stuff

gaunt chasm
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Great, so we’ll be able to view streamers in the next couple weeks. That’s awesome, I need more content 🙏🙏

reef osprey
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@silk fractal Mage, Ranger, Fighter, Tank and Cleric

main raptor
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@little lance not worried about boat stuff more broadly, worried about fishing. its the most important aspect hands down, all aa players know this

earnest knoll
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There will also be monthly dev streams to look forward to Karlos 🙂

molten abyss
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is alpha out?

empty fjord
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alpha is in

reef osprey
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@molten abyss no, come back in 3-4 months for that

gaunt chasm
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@earnest knoll yeh I’ve been really enjoying them so far! Love the openness

silk fractal
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do we know if secondaries and augment skills combinations for those 5 so a total of 25 classes will be available? @reef osprey

earnest knoll
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Yea the open development is super good for community building

little lance
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@main raptor the wiki says that fishing will be an active thing (no afk fishing) and it has been stated in other things that mob spawns as well as resources can be monopolized/contested so id assume same goes for fishing

reef osprey
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@silk fractal secondary classes will only be implemented into alpha 2

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so, no - just the base classes

silk fractal
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well based on what I know they seem to take the @main raptor AA path for a lot of pvp aspects so I'd assume fishing would be similar and you could kill and steal their fishes but someone who knows more about it would be able to say

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@reef osprey well that's perfect because I will only have access to alpha 2 haha

main raptor
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Mm I just havn't seen anything about it anywhere or in any streams and I went dark on this game for 18 months due to irl reasons so there is alot of catch up to do

silk fractal
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I'm curious to see how they will change the skills with augments, I hope there is different animations/vfx/possibly sound but doing all that for 64 classes would be a lot of work. any info? @reef osprey

reef osprey
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@main raptor they keep life skills well hidden for now.
you will probably more information by the same time next year

main raptor
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I'm hoping steven is taking inspiration from aa sports fishing before they ruined it. It was basically like fighting a pokemon battle for every fish and fish could make lots of money and thus prompted alot of player conflict and community content

reef osprey
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@silk fractal we don't know exactly how extensive that will be

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@main raptor AA fishing was amazing, i'd totally support them adapting a similar system
I'm gonna come for your blue marlin mate

silk fractal
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yeah I remember ganking the fishing spot in AA so much money to be made, but then we had the fisher's rule where we don't gank other fishermans and I had my boat week 2 so money was decent(merchant ship week 1 lol) @main raptor

earnest knoll
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@silk fractal they did release some vfx footage of some skills last dev stream

silk fractal
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yeah I'm talking about augments tho that's just a primary skills(they look awsome tho) @earnest knoll

earnest knoll
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Ahh right sorry

reef osprey
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@silk fractal i'd assume there will be changed spell effects for certain augments that change the skill significantly.
Those that just add a dot, or a debuff will probably be the same

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visual clarity is important though

main raptor
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@silk fractal wow lucky, we had no fishers rule on my server. I would go so far as to say the battles over marlin spots were bigger/more frantic than fighting for that island turn-in that guilds always went to

cyan coral
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After we see the stream from friday ,they shows us that massive dungeon,but is seems that only have one boss at the end.what u ppl think about it ?

main raptor
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@cyan coral I wouldn't read too much into that

empty fjord
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I think that's very unfinished, and will not reflect said dungeon when game is releaed

reef osprey
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@cyan coral it's an open world dungeon,
also i think we have seen another minor boss or 2 in the pre-alpha footage of the same dungeon

silk fractal
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@main raptor well tbf it was an unwritten rule but I was in Forestcrow and we were very hated for killing both our own faction and theirs on freedich to steal all their packs so we kinda made that rule so we'd be able to fish in peace and for some reason our faction followed it

reef osprey
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can't quite recall though

uneven leaf
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ignore that wrong chat

reef osprey
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we'll see in alpha i suppose

sonic igloo
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imagine thinking seeing a dungeon in pre alpha is a finished product

silk fractal
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@reef osprey yeah I'm curious to see how it'll be, I kinda wish a significant amount of animations/vfx would change tho since like it would make the 64 classes more unique(obviously doesn't have to be all or it could be even just a colour reskin)

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but again AA didn't do any changes and the game was pretty fun despite it, it's just wishful thinking at this point

main raptor
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@sonic igloo to be fair there is an obscene number of people complaining about combat, fx, and the world being empty... not realising the game isn't even in alpha 1

reef osprey
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@sonic igloo the raidboss literally had 2 different attacks, that kinda shows at what stage the dungeon was in development

sonic igloo
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yeah no shit?

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that's my point

silk fractal
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yeah complaining about that stuff is dumb

rigid crow
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@blazing orchid @idle siren I would love to know how you intend to balance the difference in power between turn based and action combat? The logical choice would be to use a risk/reward system where action combat more risky but more powerful to compensate if you have perfect targeting, but this causes the high end metagame to highly favor action combat.

Generally the project looks amazing, but as a long time MMO player and fellow game designer i can understand the scope of the ecosystem you are building ❤️

sonic igloo
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^

silk fractal
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the only thing that scares me from a point of view of graphics is that I hope they don't keep the same textures but again we're so far away from release there's good chances they make it look a loooot better. So I'm just waiting to see how it changes.

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and just looking at the game from 1 year ago to now, it has already improved tremendously so if we see the same leap in another year

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it'll look amazing

sonic igloo
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i mean they talk about that very topic multiple times on friday's stream

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i dont even

earnest knoll
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@rigid crow I assume by turn based you mean tab target?

rigid crow
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Yes

silk fractal
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yeah they said it like 20 times haha @sonic igloo

sonic igloo
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did y'all skip the waterfall demos?

silk fractal
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I just started following the game do you have a link?

sonic igloo
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it was in friday's stream, homie

rigid crow
silk fractal
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well actively following the game, I've been keeping an eye since kickstarter

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huh am I blind

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what time is it?

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I watched the whole thing

sonic igloo
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yeah i just really started paying close attention after Lazy Peon's vid last week

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ill find it

silk fractal
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oh wow I missed that art pic

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found it

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yeah looks much better

sonic igloo
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1:02:21 in

rose mist
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Do we know if there going to be a good morning and good night cycles?

silk fractal
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there will be

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there's also a season system in certain nodes/areas

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which spans 4 weeks, so 1 week for every season