opaque pivot
oh my, was looking forward to play better apoc
#questions
simple badge
What will you be able to do with a subscription? Or does it just ease your life?
sharp wing
You will be able to play the game.
digital aspen
Literally play the game
simple badge
So it just opens more areas
tepid harbor
sharp wing
No...
ruby swift
The sub is required to access the game. All content comes with the sub. No box cost, no update or dlc cost.
digital aspen
p2p with no box cost
crystal beacon
@simple badge 😂
ruby swift
Pay your sub, and play
simple badge
:_:
sterile fjord
its box free but has a monthly sub to pay the ppl who gona go on and build new stuff for addons and cover the server coasts and stuff
slim dagger
Steven said 15.99 per month on one of the streams, was this correct?
crystal beacon
@simple badge you have to pay when you want play
slim dagger
i thought that was an odd number
crystal beacon
@slim dagger i think its 15
digital aspen
14,99
ruby swift
That was a misstatement. Corrected the next day
slim dagger
ah ok, thanks!
simple badge
Yea 15 usd
sharp wing
Roadtrip interviews!
simple badge
Aight thats sad i dont have enough money to pay for a 15 doller subscription
ruby swift
Where do you live?
crystal beacon
@simple badge dude its not much
ebon star
It region based
ruby swift
Yeah, sadly there probably won't be harmonization for the UK
digital aspen
I'm from Brazil, 15 USD it's like 7~8% of the base salary here lol, really hoping for the localization
sharp wing
@simple badge I'll tell you what i tell others. The game is years from a release. You can start saving now to pay.
reef osprey
@digital aspen there will be price harmonization for local servers
digital aspen
@reef osprey yeah, thank god
ruby swift
There is also a referral system that will offset the cost of a sub.
ebon star
They said its harmonized for your server regions
reef osprey
@digital aspen so you'd be able to play on brazilian/south american server for a fraction of the price
ruby swift
crystal beacon
im from poor country but 15$ is ok
simple badge
Ill think about it, ive never actually gotten into a mmo properly before
ruby swift
Good luck
dreamy temple
no box price too
ebon star
@reef osprey yes
dreamy temple
unlike wow and ff14
crystal beacon
yeah that is another +
primal solstice
@digital aspen so you'd be able to play on brazilian/south american server for a fraction of the price
@reef osprey wb eu price and west asia?
sharp wing
Um... What is this? https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Fréttinga
digital yacht
where did u find that
ruby swift
Its on the wiki. @dark jungle
sharp wing
I found it on the wiki but im confused lol
digital yacht
like how did U find it lol
dark jungle
it's a test page for translators
ruby swift
Might be something from the lore session
digital yacht
o lol
ruby swift
There ya go
sharp wing
ohhhh. I found it by hitting random page
digital yacht
lol
reef osprey
@primal solstice eu will be able to play on eu servers for european prices
asia on asian servers for asian prices
That's what price harmonization is
dark jungle
ruby swift
Except that Asia is not its own region.
sharp wing
lmao I was like wth. and then I googled it and its on dozens of other wikis. Thought I stumbled on some secret code or conspiracy theory
ruby swift
And harmonization is not guaranteed to be applied to every region. Just where Intrepid "feels" it is needed.
reef osprey
@ruby swift yeah obviously,
if enough following is from a certain region, then they will consider opening a server for them
unkempt gale
@sharp wing how did you find that lol
boreal quartz
Is there any talk of quivers and ammo etc? Like do I need to restock my arrows.
digital yacht
ohhhh. I found it by hitting random page
unkempt gale
yeah but how XD
reef osprey
@ruby swift they probably won't open a server for antarctica
faint needle
All the 103 nodes can end up as a metropolis? I know that there can be only 5 at one time, I mean all the nodes will have 6 stages or there will be some "filler" nodes? Im just interested because it sounds like a lot of work. Or will they use templates and every lvl 6 human node will have totally the same building, street and wall layout?
digital yacht
ruby swift
No ammo
unkempt gale
@faint needle i think all
primal solstice
@ruby swift they probably won't open a server for antarctica
@reef osprey no ppls no servers😋
unkempt gale
but not all at once
ruby swift
@faint needle https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_progression
merry moth
If I upgraded from Braver to Leader of men could I still get access to the NDA test? 
digital yacht
i think ppl need to understand that harmonization was never 100% confirmed to be applied to any server/region it was brought up to help with the idea of currency fluctuation but that does not mean it was 100% guranteed for any regioN!
@merry moth probh ave to put in a ticket
merry moth
@digital yacht I know you upgraded recently
digital yacht
i upgraded few motnhs back
stable plover
@faint needle All 103 of the normal nodes can end up as metros (not at the same time), there are 15 special nodes attached to castles that can't
sharp wing
@merry moth Yes, Send a community support ticket if you did not receive an email (check spam)
ivory latch
eu price will be 15 eur and us 15$ because thats how equality works
reef osprey
@faint needle each node can be developed to a metro.
That doesnt mean all of them will have a different layout
ruby swift
Excellent! Spoken with certainty. Well done. Just you don't have a citation for that.
@ivory latch
ivory latch
i know how they all do it when it comes to EU
i never seen a dev placing price lower than the US but higher
check any store and see if the difference between EU and US prices are like you say
you get 59.99 eur and 59.99$ price
sharp wing
Shadow dropping bombs. But to be fair people are unable to purchase that currently 😛
digital aspen
78 BRL is like 7% of a base salary here,
btw, we're chatting rn, so, think it would be proper to move to discussion lol
digital yacht
@digital aspen that is why steven brought up the idea of harmonization, but it is no way confirmed 100%
ivory latch
best to way and see how much will the sub be, because is not the value of the sub, and you're paying for the skins and beta
digital aspen
@digital yacht i know ^^
unkempt gale
where do i submit suggestions?
dreamy temple
ooo about suggestions being able to change the “mayor” title to whatever u want would be nice
ruby swift
Forums are static and get perused by those that count. Here the scrollby makes it get lost.
slow sky
Has there been any mentions of cosmetic loadouts? So i can make several cool setups and then just quickly flip through those looks without needing to equip and unequip each cosmetic individually?
next vector
Will there be gatherable resources that are restricted to continents/climates? If true, how important will they be? For example a type of wood that only grows in cold areas that players are encouraged to transport to other parts of the map?
stuck phoenix
@next vector Yup, if you want to get that sweet sweet gold 
stuck phoenix
yup
stuck phoenix
every 4 weeks iirc
digital aspen
thought it was 1 season per week, good to know that is 4
weak mantle
now i can get 3 birthdays a year
red crescent
is there going to be naval combat? I really wanna RP as Captain Jack Sparrow and start pillaging people
slow sky
Yes
proven root
covert ember
Has it been stated how they will handle loot and bosses, like will there be a weekly lockout type deal, or can you farm bosses infinitely, and how long will the respawn timer on bosses be?
slow sky
Loot will be handled by different loot methods determined by the party leader whether you roll for loot, leader decides who gets what etc. and I’m not sure about a lockout, the boss will have a respawn timer which we dont know how long
red crescent
so it will be similar to loot council in world of warcraft?
slow sky
Pretty much
covert ember
Oh yeah, knew about the loot methods, just quite interested in how the loot will be handled in terms of lockouts. Would be quite interesting if you can just farm bosses/loot infinitely, because then that might mean guilds might basically be able to have a monopoly on a boss and just spam kill it
slow sky
Ill check the wiki to see if there’s been lockouts mentioned
ocean spear
How would xp work for tanks and healers in dungeons if it's based on damage done?
dreamy temple
im assuming there will be a % damage taken or % healed for healers? otherwise idk how it’ll work
faint plover
will be some harmonization for EU?
slow sky
@ocean spear unknown at this time
twilit bison
As far as I know its party dps, not individual.
upbeat sparrow
Sorry if this is available information but do we know when the alpha 1 starts?
sweet void
They say fall of this year - alpha1
viral ore
@upbeat sparrow
upbeat sparrow
Thanks
rain robin
at what level will we be able to PvP in the latest stream they showed a lvl 10 dungeon (public) would this mean pvp starts at lvl 1 or at 10? 🙂
ruby swift
@digital aspen Seasons are weekly. Unless someone has a new citation?
ruby swift
@rain robin Level 1 for pvp so far.
But there may be a safe area around the portals to keep people from spawn ganking. TBD.
rain robin
won't that be chaotic as we all come into the world at 4 portals, will that not mean instant camping? 😮
ah ok 😄
ruby swift
We already showed them the problems with that in the May 31st test. Everyone just went murderhobo on login. Everyone was killing everyone. Till they realized later they were stacking death exp penalty. Then everyone calmed down.
vapid veldt
As for the corruption system, do we know if there is a chance of dropping gear after killing literally only 1 person?
ruby swift
You want something changed. Just do it to the devs repeatedly
digital aspen
@ruby swift someone said that it would change every 4 weeks, but yeah, as much as i would like it to be 1 season per month, it is weekly
ruby swift
@vapid veldt Last info I have is that Steven stated that for killing someone of equivalent level one time that there would not be a chance of gear drop. That as you went higher the chance would increase. If someone has a newer quote, link it please.
@digital aspen There is a lots of misinformation flying around. If ever in doubt consult the wiki or ask for a citiation.
vapid veldt
That is amazing. Exactly what I'd hoped. I was worried that it would conflict with what Steven said about "you should be able to kill that one super annoying person"
Because if I dropped my epic weapon after a perfect no grief record I'd be mad as hell
slim dagger
I think you have to be a certain pk level before you drop gear, no?
ruby swift
Any gear can drop, including legendary uniques. That has been confirmed. So just don't go murderhobo and you should be fine.
dreamy temple
does corruption only wear off after you die?
rose mist
I think there is few ways it can go down
ruby swift
There is a new mechanic just mentioned in the last two weeks of a "pk counter" that will need to be reduced through a quest (most likely where the reduce corruption through questing went) it will not go down through grinding or death. This is to also penalize those that kill once, die, kill once die, to try and game the pk system. Eventually without the time sink required you would start having penalties just due to your "pk counter" New system, sure to be more info.
Corruption is reduced through grinding mobs or death. Pk counter is reduced through specific quests.
rose mist
Jail system can be fun for pk you spend X time doing something in a jail mine iron for the town or something
ruby swift
No jail system planned
rose mist
Yea i know just saying it could add flavor
ruby swift
Sorry, sometimes my responses are just automatic now.
summer elbow
Hiya, I know it's already confirmed that they payment will be sub-based, but... does anyone know the initial cost of the game? Is it gonna be the same as the Early Access thing-ies?
ruby swift
There is no box cost
summer elbow
so it's gonna be like WoW?
ruby swift
You pay the sub and that is it. The early access packages are not required.
No WoW has a box cost, sub, and payment for expansions. Ashes only has the sub cost.
dreamy temple
makes no sense. box, payment for expansion and monthly on top? just siphoning money at this point
slow sky
Looks like my question got burried
Has there been any mentions of cosmetic loadouts? So i can make several cool setups and then just quickly flip through those looks without needing to equip and unequip each cosmetic individually?
ruby swift
You are talking about WoW? @dreamy temple
summer elbow
I don't think it's the focus rn @slow sky
ruby swift
@slow sky I dont remember thing on loadouts.
peak igloo
So is there a playable version of this game out now, alpha?
potent thunderBOT
slow sky
Pre-alpha test sometime in August and Alpha 1 this fall
dreamy temple
Yep
ruby swift
Currently in pre-alpha. Next tests mid Aug. Will be under NDA. Possible written/verbal NDA drop, but not confirmed yet.
Yeah, havent played WoW in years. Screw em.
twilit shore
if i buy aoc of the NA account will i be able to use the serial key on the eu account
sweet void
Servers are not region locked i believe
slow sky
If you buy a pack off the store there will be transfers later on for you
ruby swift
If you plan to play on EU/CIS servers at launch you will be under My.Games currently. If you play on any other region currently announced for launch you will be Intrepid.
sweet void
Even with a 250 ping, im still playing an NA server
past ridge
oh boy, I will be playing with 220 ping too, I'm scared it will have a huge impact in gameplay
sweet void
Ill be bitchslapped on pvp thats for sure
nimble tartan
will BoW still be added before the other A1 access' in fall?
sweet void
Thats why they were picked by steven
nimble tartan
and how accessable will A1 be? few hours of testing, days or persistent?
sweet void
Its persistent. Id imagine a lot of server updates weekly based on community feedback
ruby swift
Initially will be as they need. The idea is to having increasing length testing sessions to test server stability.
hazy basin
What kind of stuff are you guys looking for in hiring? And are you taking on interns?
sweet void
Is beta 2 the last "closed" test phase?
@crystal beacon hopefully
ruby swift
@hazy basin https://intrepidstudios.com/ for job openings. Interns they have said in the past they usually do locally.
hazy basin
Ohh okay thanks! @ruby swift
twilit shore
there being ddos everyday
ruby swift
The My.Games decision has been debated endlessly. Please take it to other channels for discussion and keep this one for questions please.
crystal beacon
There is a debate over my. Com?
desert ivy
@ruby swift You know what hasn't been debated endlessly?
Dps metres.
crystal beacon
Wont aoc be in hands of intrepid?
ruby swift
If you are in EU you will be under My.Games
proud sorrel
Will there be dragon mounts?
ruby swift
@proud sorrel Yes
crystal beacon
Soooo, how does he value p2w then in eu
sweet void
@ruby swift have u checked if loot drop rate change when a high lvl char farms at a low lvl area?
crystal beacon
Because mycom is very p2w greedy
desert ivy
Please just look it up. This has been explained endlessly.
crystal beacon
But Steven doesnt want that
ruby swift
@sweet void Loot system was not in place for the testing I have participated in so far.
We only looted essences that could be used to spawn caravans for testing.
oak depot
@proud sorrel and dragon mounts will have special abilities.... think Game of Thrones sieging a city
ruby swift
The flying ones. There are also smaller Tier 2 dragon mounts that glide.
oak depot
hardy crystal
i just noticed that theres headstart in the game, why aint this considered p2w ?
ruby swift
Sec
hardy crystal
@oak depot not directly, but you can prep for them and be on the spot right away
ruby swift
final aspen
yeah, i'm from the EU and i really don't want my.com as a publisher here. I'll probably play on the US East Coast
oak depot
@ruby swift can you level by killing mobs though during head-start? that's what is unclear to me
twilit shore
my . com is a sub of mail.ru what is owned by one of vladimirs putins buddys what a sad day for us players who wanna play aoc on eu side
vocal anvil
Anyway to get into the head start still?
stuck phoenix
i feel bad
twilit shore
sorry im out of it
ruby swift
Yes, but once you outlevel the mobs you wont be gaining exp. I believe there was a statement that headstart people would cap at level 10 since there wouldn't be any way of gaining more exp past that point till nodes progressed and higher level mobs appeared.
twilit shore
yes its owned putins buddy
final aspen
i'm playing conquerors blade, which is a fine game. but the support from my.com is absolutely trash
ruby swift
@vocal anvil Nope. Headstart was included in some Kickstarter packages and will not be offered again.
hardy crystal
https://youtu.be/KGsXie8d8mM
Peons video about My.com
final aspen
like "we don't care if you name yourself after ww2 holocaust victims and found a guild called "Gas Chamber"" trash
crystal beacon
Does steven have an explanation or statement over mycom?
ruby swift
I get that you all have feelings and emotions about the My.Games decision. Please take it to the discussion channels and keep this one clear for questions.
vocal anvil
@ruby swift Thanks for the info. I just boarded the hype train since Asmons Interview. Excited to see this game come to life.
ruby swift
desert ivy
ruby swift
desert ivy
Intrepid met with a lot of the EU publishers, and my.com were the only ones willing to sign the contract that Intrepid laid out.
ruby swift
@crystal beacon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Publishers
crystal beacon
Ah good
Everything gucci
If they promise no p2w
Will the subscription be same price?
earnest elbow
Will alpha two keys still be available in the packs next week after the new rotation of cosmetics?
reef osprey
It's still suspect, that my.com hasn't promoted the game on their official website, the shop was unlinked and not updated in the past 4 months.
Really curious Steven's statement regarding the "EU-Situation" will be soon
@earnest elbow they will announce it before Alpha 2 will be removed from the shop
desert ivy
That statement is almost certainly just regarding the my.com website.
Probably meaning my.games will be adding Ashes and the packs to their website soon
soft lance
Can someone please explain to me why these pre-order packs are so expensive? I don't mind dropping $375, but that price doesn't really make sense to me. Especially since it doesn't ALSO give you the future cosmetics. So i'm expected to pay $375 plus extra for the other cosmetics? But this game is privately funded?
desert ivy
Because you get stuff other than cosmetics such as game time and in-game embers
crystal beacon
The packs are 1:1 value i think
reef osprey
@soft lance let's look at the 250 $ one for example:
250 $ gives you
90 dollar in game time
100 dollar in store currency.
That means you get the alpha 2 access + a full set of cosmetics for 60$ which isn't all that much
ruby swift
And the cost for the monthly cosmetics runs around $115-125 if you buy them all individually in future months.
desert ivy
Yeah, you don't pay $375 each month for cosmetics
soft lance
I know you don't pay that each month, but you're expected to pay additional charges.
desert ivy
What additional charges?
reef osprey
@soft lance you are only expected to pay your 15$ sub
soft lance
For cosmetics
reef osprey
which will be more like 12$
desert ivy
Yes
They dont give you every cosmetic they'll ever make for free if you pay 375
that'd be ridiculous
slow sky
Cosmetics are optional purchases. It’s on you if you buy them
sweet void
Ure not forced to buy those. U can just pay for the sub.
soft lance
I know, I just think it's weird you don't get some of the future monthly cosmetics with it.
ruby swift
This was done to give incentive to those that plan to test the game, not those that just want to casually check it out. These are true alphas, buggy and not finished. Not early release gameplay lacking localization and optimization ports from eastern titles. If you want to see what the game is going to be but don't want to pay the barrier for entry, there will be streams once testing is out from NDA.
spice dagger
It comes down to about 20 usd per outfit. All these outfits will also be released on the in game store slightly altered (like without spikes, or black instead of purple.) In the future. The main reason to buy this pack is to gain alpha 2 beta 1 beta 2 access
reef osprey
@soft lance you get though, you get 100$ worth of embers upon launch, which is about one full set of cosmetics
soft lance
Lol I don't want to just see what the game is going to be, I want to have a head start on other players. I just wanted to make sure the huge price was worth it.
@reef osprey Thank you for explaining
sweet void
I believe alpha1 is non nda. U can watch on youtube for gameplay although its not the final iteration as they are still on yhe testing phase even on beta2
reef osprey
@soft lance you are very welcome
desert ivy
I mean if you want a headstart, you could just buy the beta 1 pack since, in my opinion, the beta is going to be more representative of what the actual game is like
slow sky
There is no head start. Alpha and betas get wiped
ruby swift
All progress during testing will be wiped multiple times and a final wipe before release. You gain nothing but frustration.
reef osprey
i think he is talking about a headstart on information
crystal beacon
Test phases are there to experience the game, to get a feel what you need to do
reef osprey
people who play beta and alpha certainly start much more knowledgable
ruby swift
Streams will be just as good
crystal beacon
There will be guides out as soon as the first alpha starts
worthy scarab
I want a royal mount
soft lance
You can't just buy the beta and get all the cosmetics though, you have to get the alpha access too.
ruby swift
The combat will change constantly as it updates, not a twitcher game, so no "muscle memory" argument either.
slow sky
I can learn from watching streams too and anything in alpha is subject to change
desert ivy
I mean that guide will be pretty fucking useless tbh. The alpha 1 is gonna be incredibly different from the final game
slow sky
Please keep this channel to Questions and Answers only. If you’re passionate about further discussion feel free to move to the lovely discussion channels #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion Thank you. 
spice dagger
You gain system knowledge and game experience, which I'd argue is worth it.
ruby swift
Then prepare to pay the cost of entry.
sweet void
All progress during testing will be wiped multiple times and a final wipe before release. You gain nothing but frustration.
@Unknown#4747 in willing to be frustrated until launch as long as its a good launch and the foundation of the game is set
reef osprey
agreed Arsan, not saying it's going to be huge,
but its certainly an advantage
crystal beacon
I have a question though
ruby swift
Good
crystal beacon
The eu packs are different than the na packs, no?
ruby swift
Not that I am aware of
sweet void
You gain system knowledge and game experience, which I'd argue is worth it.
@spice dagger well if u follow their wiki and some cc pages and watch the streams, u can learn as well
crystal beacon
Can i send pics here?
Since the current eu pack has different skins than the current na packs
reef osprey
yes
sweet void
@ruby swift has it been verified although the map is fixed, the nodes will be randomly generated at launch day right?
ruby swift
As long as they are relevant to a question or answer. Start spamming memes and prolly get slapped.
crystal beacon
reef osprey
@crystal beacon those are old packs, from March
they have not been updates by my.com
crystal beacon
I see
reef osprey
you also couldn't purchase these packs through my.com as the store was down all the time
sterile fjord
wait wait wait you can get ship skinns ? with preorder ?
reef osprey
maybe steven will allow you to buy them once the store is working for a bit longer
@sterile fjord yes
ruby swift
@sweet void Nodes are predetermined on the map and are not randomized. Intrepid has put time and effort to make node placement make sense regarding resources and flow.
crystal beacon
This grave galleon is dope
ruby swift
@sterile fjord Yes, ship skins have been offered many times. They often alternate between ship and freehold or ship and caravan.
crystal beacon
Do you know if these skins will be available ingame too? Just different color schmees
Schemes
ruby swift
Possibly and probably
sterile fjord
i think they will yes
reef osprey
@crystal beacon this exact color scheme for the skins will be exclusive to the pack
you might get a green/black looking helldog though
instead of the red black one above
hybrid mica
are the skins changing on the packs in few days on 5th? also has those new skins been released?
crystal beacon
I see
ruby swift
Yes, the 5th, still no preview
hybrid mica
co cool will think about buying pack after 🙂
hybrid mica
thanks @ruby swift
ruby swift
If they are going to do a preview should be anytime. Only a couple days to go.
sterile fjord
waht did they say when the game could be released maybe ? 1 or 2 years ?
worldly rain
Hi, How does name reservation work?
slate fox
2years +
sweet void
@ruby swift have u tried to mix and match armor types? Does it mesh well as steven said on the development update?
ruby swift
@worldly rain https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Name_reservations
worldly rain
Thank you !
ruby swift
We threw on some mixed up loot that was hidden deep in a dungeon pocket they forgot to remove. Didnt notice any issues.
eternal glade
Are there going to be Capital cities that are not player driven metropolis ?
reef osprey
@eternal glade no
ruby swift
@eternal glade Nope. No Ironforge or such. Everything is player driven
sweet void
Yep even the economy is player driven
mystic notch
Isn’t there a small encampment or something by the divine gates where there are starter quests?
reef osprey
@mystic notch i don't think that was answered,
but i could see the being basic quest that give you a guideline
twilit shore
is there a group finder in aoc
reef osprey
@twilit shore no, not at all and there won't beone
sweet void
Ni lfg in aoc
@ruby swift is there a limit to where i can put my freehold? Like can i put on a mountainpeak or near the beach or on some of the small islands?
ruby swift
@mystic notch Yes, there is a starter camp near the portals that gives quests and basic services
mystic notch
Awesome thanks
eternal glade
Is there going to be some kind of reputation with the religions/societies and guilds
reef osprey
@eternal glade yes
dreamy temple
will it be possible to walk to a node i want and start leveling there?
reef osprey
@eternal glade there will be progression paths for all of them
dreamy temple
eg if the node is on an island
reef osprey
@dreamy temple yes, you can start out wherever you want
but getting to a island in the beginning might be hard as you'd have to swim
ruby swift
@dreamy temple Run. dont walk. Verra is dangerous as hell.
sweet void
Is there a limit as to where i can put my freehold? Like on a mountain top or on a beach or thise tiny islands found in the map?
twilit shore
this this game support addons if so im making a group finder addon
dreamy temple
haha
but since areas scale by node level, im assuming there wouldnt be any high level mobs. unlike wow
sweet void
this this game support addons if so im making a group finder addon
@twilit shore no addons i think
eternal glade
The game wont support addons Steven talked about it
ruby swift
@sweet void
sterile fjord
no it dosent support addons exaktly becaus of things like this @twilit shore
reef osprey
@sweet void it has to be within the Zone of Influence you are a citizen off
ruby swift
No addons, and those that break their TOS will find increasing account actions taken.
sweet void
Ohh might take a while to get those island freeholds dammit
twilit shore
already a website for aoc group finder
reef osprey
@dreamy temple there will be some some roaming monster you want to avoid
also, same leveld enemies are supposed to be a danger in this game
dreamy temple
damn, really?
ah. so i’ll be fine with a group im sure. plan on snagging a place for myself
ruby swift
Feel free to ignore what I just said. I like to 🍿 when I read "I wuz unfairly banned!" threads
reef osprey
@dreamy temple obviously developing a node alone will be hard. You want to friends to start it with you
desert ivy
reef osprey
otherwise some others might level a node adjustant to it and lock out your node from progressing @dreamy temple
eternal glade
Is there going to be naval wars since you can build shipments?
twilit shore
the low level players and one starting out will suffer the most and will just quit the game
ruby swift
Yes
There is an extensive naval system planned. Was a stretch goal achieved during Kickstarter.
reef osprey
@eternal glade there will be naval content yes.
Steven was a huge fan of naval content in AA
dreamy temple
that’s the most exciting part. naval caravans, raids and pvp
sweet void
There are sea mounts too i believe
eternal glade
so we can expect some kind of pirate guilds roaming the seas ?
dreamy temple
yep
reef osprey
@eternal glade not sure if dedicated pirate guilds, but you will certainly be able to do it
ruby swift
@reef osprey Was in response to no groupfinder and addons I believe
desert ivy
If they quit over something like that then this game wasn't for them in the first place lmao
No loss
reef osprey
@desert ivy agreed
@ruby swift ty
eternal glade
we prefer old school mmos
reef osprey
@desert ivy imagine how they would react if they were killed in the open world, their caravan robbed or their node sieged 
sweet void
the low level players and one starting out will suffer the most and will just quit the game
@twilit shore i dont it works that way. Bsides there a lot of nodes and will have a limit to the number of node tiers. Not all nodes can be a metropolis and going down. So there will be a level 0 node for starters
eternal glade
If the game stays PvX you wont be able to turn it off
reef osprey
@desert ivy "which ones are the pve servers, there is no tag to them"
sweet void
I'm just waiting for the plethora of "how do I turn pvp off" when the game launches
@desert ivy there is pvp in the open world. Be prepare to be corrupted be hunted down
ruby swift
"How do I node?"
dreamy temple
how to access pve servers: click on wow
reef osprey
@ruby swift "somebody just killed me, can i report them to the GMs for griefing?"
KEKW
twin basin
Is this game gonna end up like Archeage
ruby swift
@desert ivy Irony and sarcasm are hard for people to detect sometimes
sweet void
@ruby swift "somebody just killed me, can i report them to the GMs for griefing?"
@reef osprey bounty hunters most definitely
sterile fjord
Guys Keep the Discussions and the random talks out of the Question channel :3
reef osprey
@twin basin in what way?
sweet void
Is this game gonna end up like Archeage
@twin basin none of the crappy stuff i. Archage. No ptw as well
reef osprey
@sterile fjord pk me if you don't like it 
ruby swift
@twin basin Probably not if you are talking about p2w and the other issues it has.
eternal glade
Regarding the corruption system, I understand that at that point you can be hunted down by bounty hunters, but how many bounty hunters are going to be able to hunt the same players? Because let's say there is 3 of them, the curropted player won't stand a chance am I right?
twin basin
Like the stuff im reading here reminds me of what people wanted from archeage
sterile fjord
@reef osprey im a red player in bdo so that shouldent be a problem 😛
reef osprey
@eternal glade the corrupted player is not supposed to stand a chance, the entire server can hunt you
@sterile fjord wanna hunt carebears together?
ruby swift
@eternal glade The corruption system is all stick no carrot. They don't care about making it fair for the red. Red equals dead.
sweet void
Like the stuff im reading here reminds me of what people wanted from archeage
@twin basin the ceo of intrepid was an archage player and took some ideas form archage to this game.
reef osprey
@eternal glade reds are literally seen as monsters
everything can hunt you down
sweet void
Again u can pvp if u want. U can grief lowbies if u want. U just have to deal with the negative exp as well as bounty hunters
eternal glade
Yea it makes sense i guess, all the more that you cant even interact in cities so you are basically dead
crystal beacon
Are there any Sky Islands?
boreal abyss
No
reef osprey
@crystal beacon not mentioned so far
ruby swift
If people find it unfair and don't like it. Working as intended.
reef osprey
and probably won't be, due to missing flying mounts
twin basin
I literally found out about this game today and it looks great and the ideas seem amazing i just dont wanna get burned again lmao
viscid cypress
Where are the big plate shoulders and stuff ? so far the armors looked kinda minimalistic
eternal glade
The game is in development don't worry man
reef osprey
@twin basin understandable, just take your time, learn about it and see if you like what you see
boreal abyss
@viscid cypress no exaggerated armors (like in WoW, going for a more "realism" approach in that regard)
ruby swift
They are going for a more high fantasy look instead of the oversized shoulderpad and weapons look
sweet void
I literally found out about this game today and it looks great and the ideas seem amazing i just dont wanna get burned again lmao
@twin basin well they didnt hype the game. Its all peons fault tbh that ure hyped
viscid cypress
hmmpf
sweet void
Equipments are not class locked so u can be a mage and run around with a platemail
desert ivy
Plus the characters they've shown so far have been level 10 or so, you're not going to be seeing extravagant armour any time soon
ruby swift
Going to watch Asmon on Twitch. Have fun everyone.
reef osprey
@twin basin if you want to get revenge on peon for hyping you early, then don't use his referral code -> use mine instead
sterile fjord
@reef osprey the only plesure i have in pvp is making ppl Mad and listen to theyr crys
sweet void
Hes reacting to an aoc video @ruby swift ?
boreal abyss
Keep Q&A Channel to Q&A
ruby swift
Yep
reef osprey
@sweet void yesterdays live stream
eternal glade
So if a mage or a cleric can run around in plate armor, what would make it more appealing to wear cloth like they are ''supposed to''.
boreal abyss
@eternal glade class abilities
viscid cypress
cloth good against magic, plate good against physical
sweet void
Oh ill watch on his yt channel later. Its 3 am here lol
cloth good against magic, plate good against physical
@viscid cypress yes but mage are weak in physical so that should mitigate ut ohysical damage in theory
pallid fractal
Will there be a playable frog race? My friend told me there is
boreal abyss
No, he lied
sweet void
Will there be a playable frog race? My friend told me there is
@pallid fractal that was a joke in chat yesterday. Frognar?
pallid fractal
Yes my friend told me Frognar will be a thing 😦
reef osprey
@sweet void yes there will be an underground race called Frognar
they are the best race
twilit shore
2090 release date
sweet void
@sweet void yes there will be an underground race called Frognar
they are the best race
@reef osprey competition to the tulnars
reef osprey
@sweet void frognar is a subcategory of tulnar
twilit shore
This is another one
reef osprey
@lusty haven because they need a realistic chance to get rid of the corruption, or they will let their friends quickly kill them to circument most of the punishment and get uncorrupted quickly
@lusty haven potentially even getting resurrected by them right after
kind vapor
Hey, guys. Let's keep this strict questions and answers. Any opinions/discussions should go into #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion
sweet void
@lusty haven because they need a realistic chance to get rid of the corruption, or they will let their friends quickly kill them to circument most of the punishment and get uncorrupted quickly
@reef osprey also remember the negative exp of being corrupted and the chance to drop ur gear so i think its fair ure being a dick for killing other people to be hunted by more than 2 people
lusty haven
@reef osprey also remember the negative exp of being corrupted and the chance to drop ur gear so i think its fair ure being a dick for killing other people to be hunted by more than 2 people
@sweet void True that
sterile fjord
@lusty haven as far as i know there is no limit for how many bounty hunters can hunt you, the bounty hunter quests waht so ever will only be availabel in a military city "as far as this is still right"
@lusty haven so there could be 50 bountyhunters on your way but they start from the other continent
sweet void
I believe its a lvl 3 military node for the bounty hunter option to show
eternal glade
What happens when you die, do you need to retrieve your corpse ?
boreal abyss
Someone DM me when Q&A channel has been cleaned
@eternal glade you respawn at respawn points
sweet void
What happens when you die, do you need to retrieve your corpse ?
@eternal glade no corpse run, u port to the nearest respawn point. Howver if uree corrupted, when u die u get ported toa random spawn point
eternal glade
How difficult is it to obtain your first ground mount ?
sterile fjord
@terse canyon is it like in bdo where i can spawn in the next save location OR in a city that is near me
boreal abyss
relatively simple, will be its own quest iirc
sterile fjord
@eternal glade not hard they saied you will get one really early
reef osprey
@eternal glade first one is said to be relatively easy,
it will be a basic horse
but there is a progression path to getting better mounts
eternal glade
Also are there like different speeds of ground mounts? Like lvls
sweet void
@terse canyon is it like in bdo where i can spawn in the next save location OR in a city that is near me
@sterile fjord well usually soawn points are on towns
boreal abyss
@sterile fjord if you can select respawn point or not is not something that has been clarified
most likely you will respawn at closest respawn point
sweet void
Also are there like different speeds of ground mounts? Like lvls
@eternal glade different types of mount, land, water and air. Air is the hardest since its limited to a few people who have status like a monarch or a mayor or a guild leader or someone legendary drop froma boss
faint needle
Will you leave a skeleton if you die? Probably the best thing in vanilla WoW was the player skeleton piles as a sign of danger 😄
rough elm
Quick question. Where are the questions posted that might get selected in the monthly updates?
boreal abyss
@eternal glade will probably be different speed mounts yes
torn fiber
can i at launch just team up at level 1 and go straight to a Node that is far away and start leveling up there?
Or in other words.
Will there be low level mobs only in the starter zone or does every zone have them so people can more quickly spread out?
sweet void
Will you leave a skeleton if you die? Probably the best thing in vanilla WoW was the player skeleton piles as a sign of danger 😄
@faint needle havent seen a skeleton on the streams of people dying. That might change though
boreal abyss
@rough elm they usually open up its own thread on reddit/forums where you can post those questions
rough elm
I see thanks. And how is it time wise? Like Week before the update or?
sweet void
can i at launch just team up at level 1 and go straight to a Node that is far away and start leveling up there?
Or in other words.
Will there be low level mobs only in the starter zone or does every zone have them so people can more quickly spread out?
@torn fiber yes u can, all nodes at a start of a server are lvl 0 so mobs would be the same
eternal glade
Pretty sure the world doesnt scale with your lvl
boreal abyss
@torn fiber yes you can go to far away node at once if you want
Low level mobs everywhere
(As higher level mobs will only appear when nodes stage up)
sterile fjord
@boreal abyss as i understood it in the Q&A with a higher node the low mobs dont get removed or replaced but the higher mobs come as adition to them aswell as dungeons and world bosses and stuff like that
boreal abyss
@sterile fjord they will replace low level mobs in some areas, but not everywhere indeed
eternal glade
All the loot is going to be tradable correct ?
boreal abyss
Almost all
very few things will be "soulbound"
details on waht those "few things are" we do not have
eternal glade
So BoEs arent a thing
reef osprey
@boreal abyss like cosmetics from long quest and achievement chains, right?
boreal abyss
BoE Is not a thing indeed
sterile fjord
@boreal abyss do you know if ground mounts also have a livespan or just the flying mounts who drop
aswell as glider mounts
eternal glade
Any chance that the devs rename the ''tank'' class? Seems a bit lame for a class name
reef osprey
@eternal glade it's not a class, its just an archetype
but i agree, they could be more creative with that one
pearl crypt
is there a way to change your username on the site?
hardy crystal
Why is there an flying mount on kickstarter packages btw
digital yacht
@hardy crystal they are skin for flying mounts in game
reef osprey
@hardy crystal its just a skin
digital yacht
thjey arent the mpunt itself
proven root
@eternal glade i feel ya, but its not actually a class name. its a base archetype
hardy crystal
Says "mount" not "mount skin"
reef osprey
@pearl crypt did you buy anything yet? otherwise just create a new account
reef osprey
@hardy crystal that's clarified in the QnA
hardy crystal
👌 Huh, got scared for a sec there
faint needle
Am I right about that there wont be transmog on weapons?
zinc tundra
any chance we get an epic soundtrack for this game like Lineage 2?
reef osprey
@hardy crystal
digital yacht
plus many more to come
eternal glade
^
reef osprey
@faint needle preparing for a wall of text
monkaS
lusty haven
Will server segregation be applied ?
sweet void
very few things will be "soulbound"
@boreal abyss cosmetics are soulbound right?
faint needle
So equiping transmog, skins on everything will be doable from the main menu/account management screen and not from a wardrobe item, stable, transmog station? Would be nice if equiping skins would be a minimal effort at least
@faint needle preparing for a wall of text
monkaS
@reef osprey just writing slowly 😄
reef osprey
@faint needle no idea, don't think that has been specified
faint needle
there is a sentance about it in the picture you posted above
sweet void
Am I right about that there wont be transmog on weapons?
@faint needle purely cosmetics
faint needle
but it is maybe just about the kickstarter rewards
eternal glade
Did the devs make a decision on the Multiboxing situation ?
woven vale
As of now they still have their current stance
sweet void
Did the devs make a decision on the Multiboxing situation ?
@eternal glade theres a thread in the forum. Its a fun thread
faint needle
if i understood it right, 2. account controlled separately are allowed but controlling more characters with macros in the same time is forbidden
so you cant have 10 mage start to cast lightning bolt in the same time at you
eternal glade
They mentioned some kind of program that will indicate if a group of players make the same inputs and follows each other
solar zodiac
I changed my email on my account, but the dev updates still go to the old email address. Is there a way to change this?
sweet void
Basically u can have multiple subs given un play it on separate pcs/laptops without 3rd party apps like macro and virtual machines
potent thunderBOT
eternal glade
I forgot, have the devs talked about in water combat and how its gonna work?
reef osprey
nope not yet
sweet void
No water combat discussed
unkempt gale
during the stream i thought there was
eternal glade
Im talking about a system like GW2
sweet void
Oh that is part of the kickstart goals
unkempt gale
i mean....kinda? but i thought they mentioned something about in water combat as well @torpid tangle
sweet void
And steven loves his naval battles in archage
eternal glade
i mean....kinda? but i thought they mentioned something about in water combat as well @torpid tangle
@unkempt gale yes i think so too
torpid tangle
potentially I'd have to go rewatch the ama but I'm fairly certain it'll be combat from boats
unkempt gale
then they wouldnt have all that underwater stuff, like fish and plants
torpid tangle
although who knows maybe they'll make underwater grind areas
the possibilities are endless with these guys
sweet void
then they wouldnt have all that underwater stuff, like fish and plants
@unkempt gale not yet as a area to explore
hazy matrix
Not sure if this has been answered before - But how will they deal with the servers? Considering some servers might have insane amounts of players and some might not especially a few months after release?
sweet void
U csn swim i think but not dive, so that might be an expansion in the future
reef osprey
@sweet void in ashes? you can dive. They did that just yesterday
eternal glade
in the last ama they have shown some in water models like plants and such so it would only make sense to have some kind of water combat but thats a topic for #aoc-discussion
sweet void
Not sure if this has been answered before - But how will they deal with the servers? Considering some servers might have insane amounts of players and some might not especially a few months after release?
@hazy matrix server reservation and stress testings in beta
reef osprey
@hazy matrix not releasing unnecessary amount of server on release
they prefer longer queues over dead server
hazy matrix
Okay that answers it better - Some WoW Classic servers ended up being low pop servers and people quit playing on them early on even
sweet void
@sweet void in ashes? you can dive. They did that just yesterday
@reef osprey oh did not see that part. Only rhe swimming part. But i an definitely sure underwater biome with mobs and all are for the foreseeable future
hazy matrix
was curious if that could happened here
reef osprey
@hazy matrix that was strongly based on the faction based system though
pretty much every server had a dominant faction and the other faction quit the server
hazy matrix
@reef osprey Sure but you still see very low pop servers on retail aswell thats just "left for dead" to these days - thats why im curious what they will do if that ends up happening to a server
eternal glade
That is why if you do a faction based mmo you need 3 faction not 2 not 4, 3! like in DAoC
reef osprey
@hazy matrix i agree what you mean;
incentive to change older servers will be a huge thing here
unreal bough
hi there! i have question: will it be possible to play with the same account on EU and US servers? Or do i need 2 separate accounts for it, just like WoW? TY
reef osprey
classic wow has the same issues though
hazy matrix
Like I would hate to play on a server that ended p "dying" and all thje other severs was more popular
even if this was after 1 year of release
low path
If a server dies it gets merged with another server
reef osprey
@unreal bough no region lock, so its possible
not sure if you can transfer cosmetics and stuff though
@low path which is the worst scenario possible
low path
is it?
hazy matrix
@low path how would that work though? with the names, nodes etc
low path
Would you rather have the server you play on die and be bored af, or have your character transferred to another server?
@hazy matrix normally just the character is transferred
hazy matrix
yeah but if two players has the name J3FF - who gets prio on it then?
low path
They said they pick a parent server, and everything in its world stays
Im not sure in that scenario
solemn magnet
Any infos on how they'll protect the roleplay aspect of this game? Mainly talking about two things:
- Getting griefed by people who attack roleplayers on sight (know about the corruption system but that doesn't prevent those roleplayers from being killed while playing)
- When roleplaying in a tavern within a node or your house, it would be extremely frustrating to cut the play on one evening to continue it on the next day but when you log into the game, you see that the tavern/house is destroyed. How are they gonna prevent such situations?
low path
Maybe it wipes your character, they didnt confirm a character would be transferred, im just assuming
eternal glade
Maybe there is going to be RPPVP servers ?
reef osprey
@solemn magnet taverns won't just disappear from one day to the next
Sieges will be declared days before.
reef osprey
@solemn magnet also, the corruption system is supposed to be punishing enough so people won't go around randomly killing people just because they RP
however, it's an open world pvp game, expect to die to other players
low path
ya
Remember if corrupted kill enough (we dont know what enough is yet) then they will get nerfed so hard they cant kill anymore
solemn magnet
Aight. I do like the aspect of switching roleplay hotspots though so that's nice. Also I guess we just have to see how good the corruption system is at preventing such things
covert plank
so do you know if augments will work on utility skills? like if you have a mage with rouge sublclass you can increase what the mage detection can find?
reef osprey
@low path then you can rollplay the despair of the incoming siege, the sadness of your home getting destroyed and tread of fleeing to another part of the world
Seems like 10/10 RP content
solemn magnet
I actually do like that
low path
Personally I dont rp in rpgmmo's but I understand where your coming from
sweet void
@solemn magnet the corruption system is a deterrent to grief. Like someone said on chat, its a stick with no carrot. U wont get anything good for being a corrupted other than a red name a bunch if bounty hunters on ur ass
eternal glade
@low path then you can rollplay the despair of the incoming siege, the sadness of your home getting destroyed and tread of fleeing to another part of the world
Seems like 10/10 RP content
@reef osprey True!
low path
I also like the current pvp and corruption system, like I can fuck someone up if they are pissing me off
solemn magnet
But that brings me to another topic: Do we already know how many servers there will roughly be per region? (Especially asking for EU since I'm from germany)
low path
not that im aware of
reef osprey
@solemn magnet corruption will probably be balanced throughout the entire alpha.
Best thing you can do on that front is giving feedback once we know where we are at
low path
they said that they would rather have less servers and more que time then more servers that end up being empty after a year
solemn magnet
That sounds good
reef osprey
@solemn magnet we don't know, they will gauge server interest through stress tests, surveys, and pre-sign-ups
solemn magnet
Alright, thanks guys ❤️
reef osprey
- what Jeff said
eternal glade
In related topic, is the arenas and battlegrounds queues going to be cross servers ?
low path
If you watch the livestreams and hours of interviews that exist with shroud, summit, tim, and asmon
some of these + more questions get answered, and as a fan of the game I thought were very interesting
@eternal glade Id like to think so
reef osprey
@eternal glade maybe, that's undetermined
but they are open to heading that way
vague karma
Question about crafting. Can you be a pure crafter without going hard core into leveling and PVE PVP or will crafting patterns be tied to level
vague karma
But can you craft high level things without leveling
low path
@vague karma In theory you can be pure crafting as far as im aware, but the regions that rarer resources are in have harder enemies
Ya the crafting skill levels individualy
most do
low path
But you probably want to attend raids as well since bosses will drop loot for crafting that only a crafter can forrage
reef osprey
@vague karma you of course have to level your crafting skill
you don't have to level your adventuring class
low path
a warrior wont just be able to bring back the loot
reef osprey
@vague karma of course, if you want to gather rare materials in the wilderness, knowing how to fight monsters you encounter might come in handy
eternal glade
Oh yeah like the devs said they want to open the doors to all the mmos players including the crafters so you will have some master crafter on the server that dont really pvp or pve
low path
Since said monsters will drop good stuff for crafting, buying it all might not be as cost effective
real yew
So I bought the $375 for cosmetics and early access. Do we have to wait until Aug 19th to download? Will I recieve an email with beta code or something?
low path
I am very looking forward to getting to know a crafter and then becoming a regular customer
same with merchants and sailors
hasty moss
@real yew you bought into alpha 2
low path
Even though I dont rp, It seems like coming into contact with rp'ers is almost mandatory to get the most out of the game
real yew
When is that?
reef osprey
Did steven ever do a house tour?
I'd love to see that
low path
Question: Will class skilltrees and such be available for preview before selecting said class, also will it be possible to preview how a class will work with a secondary class, even before the original class is selected?
stone cipher
If you buy into alpha 2. At each stage will characters restart?
low path
probably depends on what they want to test @stone cipher
real yew
Ok ty
eternal glade
There a not going to be class trials @low path
reef osprey
@stone cipher maybe, probably
there might even be multiple wipes if testing calls for it
stone cipher
Is there a limit to how many people can buy into alpha 2?
reef osprey
@low path we will probably have that information during the beta etc.
there will be extensive guides online by release
@stone cipher they will announce it if they ever want to close the Alpha 2 sign up
beforehand+
hasty moss
@stone cipher currently no, they will cut it off if they get too many though as they did with alpha 1
low path
@eternal glade I dont want to actually play as it to test it, just like something I can read that tells me what the classes skills are and how they will interact with the augments
Thanks Warth, thats likely I guess
I hope like Steven has said, that not everything is spoiled before release. Theres so much id like to experience for the first time and contribute to
lusty wolf
Will there be a cooldown on dungeons and raids?
low path
thats a good question, especially for non instanced ones
eternal glade
Oh yea completely @low path I will try my best to avoid any kind of guides or videos explaining the game before realease
reef osprey
open world dungeons for sure not
instanced wasn't discussed yet
low path
but could you be going through a open world dungeon and then someone else enters like 15 min after you, will the mobs be respawned or no?
eternal glade
I thought the devs said that they were going Lineage 2 style with 1 boss kill and who gets it, gets it
reef osprey
@low path mobs will continously respawn yes
some bosses and mobs might take logner to respawn though
real yew
Where/when do we reserve our name?
low path
cool cool
celest loom
Will all servers be pvp or there will be also pve servers?
low path
all pvp
eternal glade
every servers are PvX
hasty moss
@real yew probably around alpha 1 or alpha 2, you will get an email and they will announce it when you can
low path
Does the ability to reserve names imply that names are just server based?
real yew
Ty @hasty moss
low path
Example: can I be on server A with name J3FF and someone on server B can also have the name J3FF?
eternal glade
Most likely yes
hasty moss
@low path we do not have an answer as to whether it will be server or game wide, presumably it will be server based
gusty echo
If a node is a metropolis and it doesn't fall for a lengthy period of time (6 months to a year). Will there be a world event like a volcanic eruption that forcibly destroys the node to reset it? Or will it be a case where players could decide on certain metropolis' to be a 'permanent' city within the server?
eternal glade
That's a good question, but the devs mentioned some kind of events when failing will bring natural disaster, but I don't know to which extent
low path
They said that after a natural disaster, some shops and services inside a node will be unavailable for a period of time
gusty echo
I remember natural disasters being mentioned before. Though the extent and destructiveness of them is something I hadn't heard
fading hollow
Does anyone know if there will be skills that change per weapon? So if you're a warrior class, and you've been using a short sword as a weapon but you find an axe that has better stats than what you have. Will you have the same skills or different skills for that weapon?
midnight iron
Any information about existance of things like WoW weekly chest?
cold juniper
Do somebody know when comes back the preorder at my.games ?
fading hollow
@cold juniper what do you mean?
sweet blade
@fading hollow different weapons have their own skill trees.
the basic attack itself probably is the same
low path
@cold juniper Everything included in a preorder is listed on the shop page
sweet blade
but the effects it applies may be different
cold juniper
I cant buy pre order packages at my.games
low path
what is my.games?
fading hollow
but each weapon will have its own skill tree. thats great.
reef osprey
@midnight iron they do not like participation rewards. So probably nothing like that
sweet blade
indeed
fading hollow
@cold juniper only place you should be pre ordering the game at is the ashes of creation website
reef osprey
@midnight iron they are heavily inclined to the mindset
you get what you earn
cold juniper
oh okay thank you
reef osprey
@cold juniper my.games is valid, its the EU Publisher.
But currently the store is deactivated.
Wiat until its up to pre-order
fading hollow
im watching the jul dev update. do you get more when you're mining if your mining skill is higher.
low path
probably
real yew
I thought we will be downloading through steam?
reef osprey
@low path they can go though the same site and transfer it
low path
gotcha, thanks warth
gusty echo
I'm reminded of another question. I remember them saying that while anybody can level any class. Each player is only able to Master one class. (Or something like that)
So if that is the case. Are you able to mostly level one class (blacksmith) then decide to switch and 'Master' a different class (Shipwright)?
low path
yes
fading hollow
yes
gusty echo
Thank you
low path
they said you can still go quite far through another skill tree but wont be able to reach the same level of "master"
fading hollow
i believe you will be able to get others at high levels but wont be able to master them.
low path
currently unknown what mastering a skill actually means
gusty echo
@fading hollow That was my understanding as well
eternal glade
That creates the need for more players to cooperate with each other
reef osprey
@low path @cold juniper
https://youtu.be/zWguiuv9iyY?t=1459
There might be the option to backpurchase sets you can't get anymore in North America, as Europe wasn'T able to purchase them before
so if there is an old set you guys like, don't purchase now and wait and hope
cold juniper
ty
reef osprey
big might
no promises
fading hollow
this game isnt like guild wars where you just get assigned 100 quests as soon as you walk into an area right?
you have to actually talk to an NPC to get a quest.
hasty moss
Skins that have already been out will no longer be available, steven has said multiple times he wants the skins to be exclusive
reef osprey
@hasty moss read the interview
they might make an exception for EU folks as they were not able to purchase them up until now
low path
@fading hollow yes
reef osprey
@hasty moss listen*
low path
if you watch the 4k video from the other week it shows this in action
fading hollow
thank god, i hate that part of guild wars 2.
gusty echo
@fading hollow From what I've seen it's something similar to what FFXIV does where there are world events that you can join if you want but most 'quests' are assigned by an NPC.
fading hollow
@gusty echo yea thats usually how most MMORPGs go.
past ridge
what are the chances of localized prices for south american folks?
hasty moss
@past ridge there will be localized prices and depending on which localization you are paying for you will be restricted to those servers
sturdy crater
We need a whole blog about price harmonization
reef osprey
@sturdy crater it would probably depend highly on regional demand
past ridge
I hope so, because right now the subscription would be like almost 1/10th of a minimum wage
reef osprey
@past ridge where you live if i may askß
sturdy crater
@hasty moss it depends on the regions i guess,my country is considered to have a really poor population compared to EU average income,but since we r so close to EU,we are always locked to eu region
past ridge
I'm from Brazil, no Kappa
sturdy crater
poor income*sorry
hasty moss
Yes, we do not have specifics, just the answer steven gave during his AMA a few days ago
reef osprey
@past ridge brazil (in my opinion) is one of the regions i can see it happen. Probably one of the most likely regions.
As brazil/south america has a pretty large community
sturdy crater
yeah,brazilians have a huuuuge MMO gamers out there
it will happen for sure
my country is in north africa,its always in included within the EU region
fading hollow
I wonder if there will be a place to where you can market your professions to people. Kind of like a market board in each nodes.
eternal glade
Im also worried about that for Canada, as sometimes we have to pay USD in games and it hurts, not so much now since steam transfered to CND but still
feral plover
Brazilian here,. Was really happy when Steven talked about the harmonization
onyx knoll
I doubt we canadians will get any sort of price harmonisation
reef osprey
@simple ether also hello jahlon, thanks for the nice interviews and QnAs
sturdy crater
well,then we have to push the price harmnization questions for the next AMA,like we have to push steven to give us specefics
past ridge
as long as servers are physically located in Brazil, otherwise I think it would be worth paying the extra $ to play in NA servers. The brazilian community is often very toxic to play with, unfortunately
eternal glade
Yea that happened with classic wow
they after created brazilians servers but at launch south americans had to play with NA
sturdy crater
brazil will have their own servers for sure,like,i think whole south america will play in brazil,so that will b a huge population
ah nd dont forget russians in EU
XD
digital aspen
well, i'm from brazil and i can say, lots of toxic players... but not only here. Tbh, if BRL to Dolar wasn't a huge difference, i would gladly pay to play on NA server, even with high ping... played Archeage for a year without being in Brazilian guilds, and it was the most fun game i've played, mostly cuz of the community not being from my own country
eternal palm
Not sure if we have any info on this yet but figured I'd ask here:
Do we know if there is any sort of "rested" feature ala WoW relating to Inns/Cities? Will there be a heartstone, or is that too fast-travelly for AoC?
I guess I'm curious what happens if I've done a long session grinding my way up the mountain, and I need to go, can I hearth back to town, or if there is no bonus for logging out in a town like rested XP, there is no need to, and I can just logout up the mountain
digital aspen
So far all i know is that will be "faster" travel, not fast travel, and teleport will be rare and only between family members ingame
fading hollow
Does anyone know how spawning works? Will people spawn in different places based on their race and class?
reef osprey
@eternal palm no hearthstones
@fading hollow 5 initial spawn locations you can choose from
fading hollow
by spawning i mean like when you first create your player.
sage dagger
@fading hollow there are 4 spawning gates
reef osprey
@fading hollow each race has a primary one but you can swap
fading hollow
and have they specified how many nodes in each server? Dont think ive seen that in any interviews
onyx knoll
@fading hollow 103 nodes
chrome girder
@fading hollow around 103
digital aspen
103
eternal palm
I expect the starter nodes will probably be the first to metropolis stage due to most people being clustered around those, will the starter node being maxed out result in any sort of negative experience for newer players? (and I realize eventually it can get sieged down to 0)
onyx knoll
They said that there will always be low level content in every zone, leveling up a node just unlocks new additional higher level stuff
sage dagger
would make sense but you never know
real sleet
103 plus the castles that is. I think to recall there are 5 per general area making it 25 castles so 128 nodes in total.
reef osprey
@eternal palm steven talked about that
It's most likely that nodes near the starting areas will develop fastest.
with an outgoing wave from these points
unless large guilds/communities know exactly where they want to build a node of course
sturdy crater
u can never know man,and i dont think it will b that easy to level up a node,leveling takes at least 26 days or more,so nodes will also take so long,they want longetivity of the game
fading hollow
so seems like the people who level up faster and travel out farther will be rewarded better by developing nodes that are at low levels
past ridge
I thought it was 5 castles per server
dense grotto
Hi all, a quick question (i'm not in the alpha). I know that when a node is upgrading, it takes the "style" of the civilization that most contributed to it.
Is this something persistent or every new upgrade completely redo the entire node with a new style?
I think it would be nice if a node has different styles inside of it as it makes it more "real" as most ancient cities have different layers of different civilizations (thinking about european cities, especially around the Mediterranean sea which were often changing "owner" over time in history).
digital aspen
5 castles, 25 metropolis maybe
main glade
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Okay so im looking to buy one of the pre order packs to get alpha-2. I was, for some terrible reason, looking at the previous cosmetics and what they came with. Simple question, how much will it cost to get the Dark Allegiance skin pack?
real sleet
You cant 'build' a node. The location and type are fixed. Or you meant built like in 'build up'? @reef osprey
onyx knoll
@dense grotto As far as I know there won't be a mix of styles
@main glade Any cosmetics that were available in previous pre-order packs are no longer obtainable
eternal palm
@dense grotto Good question -- I'm curious too if a node will have say Orc stuff from Stage 3, Dwarven from stage 4, and Elven from stage 5, or if it would just all swap to Orc for stage 3, Dwarf for stage 4, or Elf for stage 5
fading hollow
@main glade the shop currently doesnt have the dark allegiance skin pack now.
main glade
never ever?
dense grotto
@dense grotto As far as I know there won't be a mix of styles
@onyx knoll I was expecting it but worth asking 🙂 Nothing "deal breaking" but it would be nice to come back to a city and recognize a building you helped built when it was still a small village 🙂
reef osprey
@real sleet build up
fading hollow
@main glade from what they stayed, they want each skin pack to be exclusive
main glade
well im sad. okay thank you.
fading hollow
they MIGHT bring some back or re roll them but that is a big might
limpid heath
I have a question about certificates. What happens to them after you've sold them to an NPC?
For example, what happens to the 100 wolf pelts after I sell them to the hunter NPC for 10 gold?
Is it used to progress the node? Does the NPC then have a shop where people can buy the pelts for their crafting? Is it both or something else?
onyx knoll
@dense grotto They haven't said anything about it, but it's still possible that every stage will change style. I personally doubt it but it hasn't been specified as far as I know, so maybe? 🙂
sturdy crater
i think in the first month we will have around 20 nodes and few castles owned,as i said,i think nodes will take HUUUGE TIME to level up to metropolis
onyx knoll
@limpid heath As far as I know, you killing the monster initially is what helps grow the node. Selling the certificates is just a way of making gold, I don't think what you sell affects anything. Could be wrong tho but they haven't said anything about certificates being anything more then a source of gold
real sleet
@past ridge you sir are right! It is indeed 5 castles.per server. Dont know where i read the 25 thing.
eternal palm
@real sleet I also think there can only be potentially 10 metropolis or something like that too
fading hollow
@onyx knoll i believe you're right. selling certificates wont level up nodes. just the combat/quests/raids/sieges
hasty moss
@sturdy crater
real sleet
Yeah it's 5 nodes as Metropolis, that im sure about
eternal palm
Ah 5 metros, it was 10 flying mounts from the 5 metro 5 castles then I got the 10 from
sturdy crater
@hasty moss many weeks means more than a month,so i guess i waas right ?
regal tulip
@past ridge Im also from brasil, so i could say that ping isn't the biggest problem for us to play in NA servers. Language barrier is! most of us cant speak english, so most likely we would be excluded from guilds and raids..
eternal palm
A few is 3-5, so many should be more than that
hasty moss
yes, it will take a long time to get to metropolis stage
fading hollow
I dont think many weeks is a long time. whats the difference between few days and many weeks.
and then many days and few weeks is not much of a difference.
onyx knoll
few days, 2-3, many days 5-7 maybe?
sturdy crater
yeah and it depends on how many people are contributing in that said node,and i believe citizens will go and explore other places soo,many weeks could mean many months
fading hollow
i feel if a node is lowly populated, that would make many weeks forcing it to be many months
limpid heath
Metropolis are hard capped at 5 per server
@onyx knoll That kind of seems harsh. What if you only have 5 military metros? Then all the science metro will be locked 😦
fading hollow
but if a node is heavily populated, many weeks might actually be fast.
onyx knoll
@limpid heath Then get a group together and smash one of them into oblivion to make room for an other one ^^
digital aspen
@limpid heath SIEGE them, destroy all of them, kill it kill it!
sturdy crater
asmongold will reach metropolis in no time,if all of his viewers participate
reef osprey
@sturdy crater half of his viewers will try to grief him though
also, asmons followers could fill up an entire server by themselves @sturdy crater
i honestly don't think that would be a bad thing lol
give Summit his own server
Asmon his own server
so the rest of us can live peacefully lol
sturdy crater
ikr,but that would b a boring server ngl
onyx knoll
Please keep this channel for questions, move any Asmon or other discussions to either #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion ty ❤️
regal tulip
@digital aspen i think they could at least put a Tag on some NA servers so that SA and BR players know in what server to play in. lika a [BR] Server X kinda thing. even if its hosted in NA stil..
do you guys think that possible?
digital aspen
they should make more general channels tbh lol
reef osprey
@regal tulip that's what will happen initially if they go with price harmonization i believe
digital aspen
@regal tulip if they do put a server for SA, probably will be over a menu on the launcher, "select your region" and when the game opens it will have only SA servers
regal tulip
yeah, i know, but id they decide to not host servers in SA
digital aspen
that way all the cash shop and stuff will be price harmonized
regal tulip
they could at least tab NA hosted servers
digital aspen
even if it is hosted there, still would have the region select on the launcher i believe, cuz of the price harmonization and stuff
near spear
So how does a node get down graded?
digital aspen
Siege
near spear
And it's a single stage per siege?
onyx knoll
@near spear You can declare a siege on a node, if you succeed and manage to destroy it then it'll revert back down to 0
near spear
Cool, gonna be an interesting balance challenge if it takes only a single siege to reduce potentially months of work
Thanks
visual forge
anyone knows if the ranger will be able to use spears / axes as throwing weapon (that you can use with the class skills)?
regal tulip
what i'm saying is.. if they decide that is not worth hosting servers in SA, because of publisher companys or whatever, the minimun they could do is tag NA servers, so when me and you (brasilians) search for a server to play, we could find a [BR] server, and play together as if it was a SA hosted server!
@digital aspen
hasty moss
@visual forge we are unsure at this time, all we know is that weapons will not be class locked
onyx knoll
If a siege fails, the node will be protected from further sieges from a period of time depending on the size of the node, so you can't spam siege a place until they break
versed delta
Will alpha and beta testers have to pay sub fees every mont during alpha and beta?
reef osprey
@onyx knoll do we know how the promotion of the other lvl 5 node will work?
- Will all start at level 5, 0% exp and the first one to reach level 6 will become the next metropolis (like a race)
- or will the one that hit Level 5, full exp first, before being locked out, become the next metro?
visual forge
oki thanks anyways 🙂 @hasty moss
reef osprey
@versed delta no
hasty moss
@versed delta sub starts at launch
reef osprey
@hasty moss in case you know the answer to the question above
digital aspen
@regal tulip don't think they'll do that, if they decide to not host a SA server, which i'm pretty sure we will have one, you will just have to see in discords where the most br guilds are and whatnot. But yeah, that's not a bad idea.
near spear
What is the estimated success rate of a seige? They are going to be massive pvp battles right? So assuming equal defenders vs attackers?
regal tulip
yeah, 250 x 250
digital aspen
250x250, so far... maybe they push a 500x500 lol
hasty moss
@reef osprey we arent too sure on that, we would need the fabled nodes part 3 to answer that
reef osprey
@near spear nobody knows, but it will highly depend on how much the mayor spent into defense for the city
barren flare
Alpha-1 servers are going to be in NA?
near spear
@reef osprey cool, thanks!
barren flare
And Alpha-2?
visual forge
seems likely
hasty moss
Alpha-1 servers will be provisioned in the following regions.[33]
NA.[34][33]
EU (Frankfurt).[34][33][35]
OCE servers[33] were not included in the latest announcement
that would be a waste of money to rent servers in EU when they are implanted in NA and already have cooperative to do it
nvm
young flint
Has anyone tested out the fishing yet?
onyx knoll
They have a contract with an EU company that is providing the servers for them
barren flare
Im guessing that means Alpha-2 is gonna be the same?
onyx knoll
@young flint fishing is very barebone atm they're still working on it
young flint
gotcha, with what they have, is it similar to how archeage had it?
visual forge
hope not @young flint
hasty moss
@barren flare unsure if they will expand to more regions for alpha 2
onyx knoll
never played archeage, at the moment it's literally: walk up to a fishing point, hit E, wait 2 seconds, acquire fish.
onyx knoll
So very much WIP lol
young flint
yeah in archeage you would have to hit various abilities when the fish did certain actions to "damage" its stamina until it hit 0 and you reel it in. This was for the trophy fish not standard fishing.
barren flare
If they have servers in Frankfurt for Alpha-2 the chances of me buying access is pretty high
visual forge
the whole system of getting to the location and bring it back to a port was fun, but the spamming key to tired the fish wasn't that attractive to me, i prefer the simple wow style on fishing ^^'
reef osprey
@barren flare i don't have a source, but i'm pretty sure that they said, that they want to have european servers by the time A2 hits
young flint
I see. Well i enjoyed that aspect of it because if you werent good at the system you couldnt catch bigger fish. so it had a slight skill cap that made you feel like you were good at your job.
reef osprey
@young flint nah, you didn't need to do that to fish.
You just stole it from unsuspecting fisher on your speed boat
god that was a fun game
young flint
sigh. yeah that was the other part that made it fun. dealing with gankers
onyx knoll
Please leave this space clear for questions, feel free to bring the fishing discussion over to #aoc-discussion ^^
proud sorrel
Just bought the $75 package from the shop do i instantly get access to the beta or do i have to wait?
hasty moss
@proud sorrel currently it is pre alpha, alpha 1 will be sometime this fall, we have no further dates
onyx knoll
@proud sorrel You'll have to wait a while, beta is probably not going to be for a year or two
proud sorrel
ah ok
shut glen
Any devs here? Sorry i dont know their names
reef osprey
most likely 1.5-2 years
@shut glen they read chat sometimes, but its usually the community that helps with questions
@shut glen if you need account support, then you should go through the ticket system, as they won'T be able to help you from here
hasty moss
@shut glen anyone associated with intrepid is tagged as such, if you need technical support then you will want to submit a ticket
reef osprey
@hasty moss you wrote the same as me lol
shut glen
I was wondering if theres any plans to have some bigger bulkier type races? I see a lot of humanoid / human sized races but nothing really big which i send to enjoy playing
onyx knoll
@shut glen Orcs seem kinda bulky from the concept they've shown so far
hasty moss
@shut glen they will have orcs and tulnar that might fit waht you are looking for, i recommend checking the wiki to see some concept art of both
shut glen
I like races like Tauren in wow or like some of the really big orc races in warhammer online for example (if anyone remembers that game)
I think guild wars 2 had a bull looking race too
onyx knoll
Currently this is as much as we have. We know the Tulnar will have some beastial attributes so maybe you'll be able to make a really large tauren-like Tulnar but we have next to no info or concept for them
oak depot
I have nothing to do really for the next few months in the evenings ... how do I not get depression that I don’t have an Alpha 1 key? @idle siren please help
shut glen
Ok can you pass along that info please? I do know multiple people that ive talked to that said the same thing from what we’ve seen so far
oak depot
My health is at stake
onyx knoll
@shut glen If you want the devs to see your opinion on something I recommend making a forum post about it
hasty moss
@oak depot you can watch streams when they lift nda for alpha 1
onyx knoll
We don't have the ears of the devs so we can't really.. pass it along lol
gleaming quartz
When should we except a more detailed Wiki page of Race characteristics regarding racial specific base stats and racial augments ?
shut glen
Ok
onyx knoll
@gleaming quartz The moment they release any info on it the wiki will get updated. I'm guessing we'll probably get some details during alpha 1 for the racials
gleaming quartz
Damn, i cannot wait to see that information, i wanna theory craft my rogue before the game comes out 😄
oak depot
@hasty moss that will be worse
onyx knoll
@gleaming quartz You'll have plenty of time lol
fading mauve
i know its probably been asked before but like, how is the combat gonna feel? like does it feel like classic wow where u can only pull 1 at a time solo or 3-5 mobs when in a group.. or can u pull like 2-3 solo or like retail wow where u can pull an infinite amount lol
i just chose WoW as an example because of how much their combat has changed throught the years
onyx knoll
@fading mauve it's still early to tell, the combat is far from finished and still being tweaked. We don't even have footage of half of the archetypes lol
fading mauve
understandable but i didnt know if there was a dev on who had an idea of how its gonna be
candid lava
So from what I understand so far, node types are predetermined in their expedition stage...will the players know where all the nodes are from the beginning and what type they are?
onyx knoll
@fading mauve This channel is for community members to help others, the devs very rarely speak in here 🙂 Your best bet if you want to try to have a dev answer is the forums
onyx knoll
no worries ^^
gleaming quartz
The devs could address it next week, if I remember correctly there will be another AOC stream sometime next week with devs on it answering questions and taking suggestion
onyx knoll
@candid lava kinda, the nodes are pre-determined (their location and type), and they won't change between alpha/beta and live, so any that have been explored during testing we'll know what they are, others you'll have to level them once to figure out
reef osprey
@candid lava no you only know after you leveled
@onyx knoll honestly, they should change it before alpha to a different node type, then swap to the real one for launch
surreal ravine
is there going to be life skill leaderboards kinda like bdo has?
reef osprey
@onyx knoll but tell nobody about it for the bamboozle
onyx knoll
@reef osprey Haha, I tend to agree personally but pretty sure they said the world wasn't going to be any different from testing to live 😛
candid lava
I was reading the Blog on economic nodes and " During the Expedition stage of this Node, players will encounter merchants looking for the help of brave adventurers and curious artisans." doesnt this suggest that players will encounter npcs during the nodes expedition stage depending on their type
reef osprey
@candid lava that's correct, you will know once it hits Level 1
Eco = Merchants
Div = Priests
...
you won't know while its still level 0
onyx knoll
as a node increases in rank it'll unlock new quests/npcs/merchants etc
candid lava
lvl 0 nodes is non-existent right? we will only know that the node is there once it hits lvl1?
reef osprey
correct
candid lava
awesome, thanks for the answers guys
digital aspen
damn, i thought it would have a mix of eco, div, etc, and on rank 3(or 4?) with the mayor election he would be able to choose between eco, div, military...
reef osprey
every squaremeter of the map will belong to one node, you don't know exactly where the one is you are leveling though
since the ZOI is rather small of level 0/1 nodes, you will probably realize it though once it levels up to 1
@digital aspen no, its predetermined
candid lava
And yes, I agree that they shoudn't keep the same nodes during the testing and the launch
Do we know the total number of nodes present on each server?
mystic notch
103
reef osprey
103 + 15 nodes for castles