If alpha testings are good based on cc streams, i might buy a beta key
#questions
sweet void
proven root
same here
limpid heath
@ruby swift So, has the node growth system been tested yet? If so how does it feel. Would you say it needs major or minor improvements if you've tested it.
full scroll
Why doesn't this discord have a god damn AoC meme channel?
ruby swift
We managed to get a node to naturally pop from 0 to 1 in couple hours with 40 of us grinding in that area. Was about right, the other stages were promoted manually by devs to save time.
severe gate
Hi, I was thinking of buying the game for my brother as a present, is there a package that allows him to play now?
ruby swift
@full scroll Make a suggestion on forums for MK or Toast to evaluate. If they feel there is a need they may make one.
@severe gate Not currently
proven root
@severe gate earliest is alpha 2
potent thunderBOT
severe gate
thanks guys !
fathom sparrow
Will there be skill combos
ruby swift
Yes
full scroll
If I were to take let's say a fighter as my main class and at level 25 have that ability to choose my secondary class, can I before picking see how it will impact my abilities?
limpid heath
We managed to get a node to naturally pop from 0 to 1 in couple hours with 40 of us grinding in that area. Was about right, the other stages were promoted manually by devs to save time.
@ruby swift Oh cool so it has been tested. Good to hear it's working as intended then.
Any Underrealm nodes being tested or is it all surface stuff in testing area at the moment.?
proven root
If I were to take let's say a fighter as my main class and at level 25 have that ability to choose my secondary class, can I before picking see how it will impact my abilities?
@full scroll id like to know that as well
ruby swift
@full scroll They have talked in the past about having a kind of instanced area for that, but it is a "future goal" and not part of the regular development. So......maybe. They all about no scope creep.
There is underrealm on the alpha island that we tested. Was not a node. Very well may be underrealm nodes in A1 proper testing. Unknown.
timid tulip
What classes will be available for alpha one?
ruby swift
5 is all we know in the next test. The three we have already seen are a given. They have not said what the other two are yet. The idea is to have all 8 for the actual A1.
brittle vector
Also what races are available^
ruby swift
Currently 3. One human, one elf, and one dwarf. No confirmation on others being added yet. But the idea for them is to have all 9 eventually available in A1
limpid heath
What classes will be available for alpha one?
@timid tulip Only the base classes Fighter/Fighter will be in Alpha 1 I think. More classes for Alpha 2. We'll have to see.
limpid heath
@ruby swift Wait 9? I thought it was only 8 archetypes.
ruby swift
8 archetypes. 9 races
proven root
8 archetypes, 9 races
limpid heath
Does anyone know when they plan to release the Religion system information?
ruby swift
When it is ready. MK said in stream today they are still waiting on design to finalize info.
All right. My Umbrella Academy downloads finished. Going to go binge. Someone else from the OGs will be here to help you all out. Have fun.
limpid heath
When it is ready. MK said in stream today they are still waiting on design to finalize info.
@ruby swift Ah. Is some it being tested now for some of the stuff or is it still completely in the design on paper phase?
Okay. Have fun 🙂
inland crater
It’s still in design
woeful vector
How much were the packs that have alpha one access?
inland crater
They don’t want to reveal it just yet
golden coral
@ruby swift Ah. Is some it being tested now for some of the stuff or is it still completely in the design on paper phase?
Okay. Have fun 🙂
@limpid heath
They haven't showed any footage or art design from it yet, so I guess it should be in designing phase still
crystal flax
@woeful vector $500
woeful vector
Thanks
twilit cloud
silk fractal
hey is the 5th when the pack cosmetic changes?
limpid heath
@golden coral Okay. Well from what I've been able to gather on the religious system I do have some speculation on at least some of what can be done with it. At least when it comes to augmenting your skills.
It would be too long to post here so you can read my reddit post if you want on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/i11srb/religion_system_speculation_why_it_might_let_you/
full badger
hey is the 5th when the pack cosmetic changes?
@silk fractal correct
silk fractal
okay cool do they leak or give us a sneak peek or there's no info until then?
full badger
They usually announce them about a week beforehand
dunno why they haven't done so this time
But keep an eye on their twitter
pseudo merlin
@full badger they've done it before where the preview of the new cosmetics were given the same day they were launched
i hope it won't be the case
jolly salmon
Morning guys, got a question: If I am a citizen of metropolis, will I have an access to vassal nodes features? F.e. Metropolis is militaristic node, and it’s has a lvl 4 economic node as a vassal. As a citizen of metropolis, will I be able to access economic nodes features? And If I my friend is a citizen of that economic node, will he have access to militaristic node features?
stuck phoenix
@jolly salmon i might be wrong, but it'll be able to construct buildings that are exclusive to those nodes, so Metro nodes will be able to construct buildings that are exclusive to its vassal nodes.
reef osprey
@jolly salmon features and perks from mother nodes are handed to vassal nodes. (Like the regional auction/market place for economic nodes and the teleportation for scientific metropolises) - this should be the same for divine and military nodes
we don't have any info whether it's the other way around, but i suspect not
@jolly salmon as Vassal Nodes are in the ZOI of mother nodes, but not the other way around
jolly salmon
Ty!
surreal ravine
Question. Is there going to be multiple servers like WoW? or would it be region servers like ESO?
stuck phoenix
P sure its multiple servers
drifting zephyr
When creating an account on the website, is the username an actual username as in, will be displayed on forums/potentially in game, or is it just a log in thing? Or I suppose could you change your display name but keep the username.
reef osprey
multiple servers with different prime server times
all of them pvp though
stuck phoenix
@drifting zephyr once you join the forum on your intrepid account, it'll ask you to make a forum username.
in game, idk 
drifting zephyr
Ah good. Means I can have a more secure username without having a weirdass name on forums. Thanks
clear sedge
Just ask them here
full badger
Ask here, and if we know the answers we'll tell you
stuck phoenix
yes
timid ledge
Would be cool, but seems relatively optimistic for a multiplayer
wintry seal
ok can u ask the developers if they would bring the ones like this when they officially launch?
stuck phoenix
im betting you'd need a high end graphics card to get that level of detail
timid ledge
full badger
@wintry seal https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Armor
full badger
This is about as detailed as you can get for an mmorpg
wintry seal
i figured its alpha state so i was ok but i was wondering if they would refine on armor more before launch or not
the above picture i shown was also on a MMORPG too
timid ledge
Early alpha, they most likely will
I wonder if apoc ever goes live again for more testing purposes. I do miss it
stuck phoenix
they have different seasons, so i dont see why not
boreal abyss
there are seasons that affect the enviroment 
crystal flax
They have spoken in the past about weather affects from the different seasons, but we don't know to what extent
boreal abyss
but tinier details as gloss etc 🤷♂️
wintry seal
they only told weather effects change environment as if in other MMO like christmas comes its christmas themed
but weather affecting a character they didnt mention
crystal flax
They'd mentioned roads getting snowed over/iced over during winter
I'm pretty sure at least
drifting zephyr
The seasons will give players various buffs/debuffs so I wouldn't be shocked if weather had something in a similar vein but smaller. But as far as I know no actual word of god on it yet
boreal abyss
Ashes will have 4 seasons, which will affect enviroment, which will open/close pathways etc.
If snow makes you slower to walk in etc, those kinds of details are unknown
wintry seal
ya that comes in other MMO's too example riders of icarus it snows the whole city including road but snow doesnt affect characters
dreamy temple
will there be specific winter/summer gear to combat the weather debuffs?
reef osprey
@full badger
@wintry seal
UE4 has no problem at all generating good looking detailed armor
dreamy temple
or potions etc
tough sierra
I wonder if seasons will effect the spawn rate of certain animals, such as bears being less prevalent/non existent int he winter
wintry seal
ok
stuck phoenix
it'll affect resources definitely
stuck phoenix
there are going to be 103 nodes, each of them having a dungeon and world bosses
boreal abyss
until we find them in game 
stuck phoenix
take a guess
sterile fjord
@stuck phoenix thats not correkt
wintry seal
ok i just wanted a dev to know if they want they can take guidance from this art cause its still on alpha and they can develop it if they want to give it a shot
drifting zephyr
I imagine the dragon will look a fair bit cooler in the end. So bosses like the right aren't out of the realm of possibility. Of course that picture is crazy with environment effects and floating particles which probably won't just be there permanently but might be boss mechanics or something
sterile fjord
@stuck phoenix there are many nodes in an area but lets say 12 nodes but all 12 of them open up the same "dungeon/worldboss/areas"
stuck phoenix
@sterile fjord I C
sterile fjord
but only one can grow maximum
burnt nymph
Will the combat be similar to archage ? Cuz if so it will be so bad since there combat is sooo bad so i hope not 😭
surreal ravine
is there going to be a max citizens cap in curtain nodes? or could anyone apply for citizenship?
exotic berry
Will you be able to swap servers wih your character?
Because it would seem stupid to include a leveling system for nodes and no one would want to make nodes fall because you would be able to judt swap servers.
reef osprey
@drifting zephyr right is clearly a cutscene
dark dagger
Combat looked pretty good for pre alpha yesterday
pliant sphinx
citizinship is based on if you own a residence in the node, max citizenship depends on how many apartment buildings the mayors build ect
burnt nymph
Pls tell me they didnt take inspiration combat from that game 💔😭
crystal flax
@exotic berry Probably not since node growth also determines resources, don't want people building up a resource in one server and then swapping to sell it
boreal abyss
they did, they took inspiration for their caravan system from AA
reef osprey
@surreal ravine you need to have a home there to become a citizen.
So apartment buildings will limit it
Also every additional apartment will have increased cost for the player purchasing it
sterile fjord
@burnt nymph the combat is more aktion combat oriented i guess they go more into a black desert way of things
exotic berry
Yeah okay thats what i was thinking
drifting zephyr
Combat is part tab target part action combat. Each player can choose up to 75% of their skills to be tab or action
dark dagger
@sterile fjord it's more of a hybrid system
drifting zephyr
So you have to hybrid it up a bit
sterile fjord
yea
silver beacon
Do we know what kind of hair colours we can expect to have access to? Will it be restricted to realistic tones, or be open to more outlandish colours?
full scroll
Btw have the devs given any idea on how long would a typical raid take?
dreamy temple
i’d assume every color. is hair customizable later in the game?
digital epoch
hope they dont go to crazy with colors
sterile fjord
@silver beacon i think there will be multipal choices but i also think that this is something they will go on at the end since they wana have a solid game from a combat / system type of view
silk fractal
it feels like they have a lot of work to do on graphics still so character customization hasn't been mentioned much right?
full scroll
I wanna be a transgender helicopter with pink blades
silver beacon
To be fair, it would take approximately very little effort to just have it be a full rgb spectrum
Also haha, thanks for the one joke transphobic people use
full scroll
yw
silk fractal
I hope they go the bdo/elyon way
full arrow
hi guys i have a question. i dont have much experience on MMORPG's but because of XP and loot being based on a dps system, would this make it unfair for people who play support rols?
silk fractal
with very heavy customizability when it comes to character creasion
clear sedge
@silk fractal they want the character creator to be in par or better than BDO
silver beacon
It's also a high fantasy game so bright pink hair isn't unexpected
full scroll
@full arrow It won't be based solely on damage, healing will also be counted when stuff like xp gets distributed.
silk fractal
good @clear sedge
pliant sphinx
@full arrow its based on dps for world bosses, normal party content has loot sharing options.
silk fractal
do you know like how much better they plan to make the graphics
digital epoch
yeah i guess if theres magic there can be hair colouring
silk fractal
because right now the game still look outdated but it's still very early alpha
so doubt that's the end result
clear sedge
You think it looks pretty outdated ?
silver beacon
I would be absolutely fine with the weeb path tbh
pliant sphinx
@silk fractal still early alpha i would assume much better, Try watching the july dev diary for a look at some of the recent visual stuff they have been working on
dark dagger
Yea the grass didn't look good at all.
full scroll
Make weeb stuff a thing, but don't force it on everyone
silk fractal
it's much better than before
but it def looks outdated
I do expect them to make it better tho
silver beacon
I'm no expert but I'm assuming a good amount of the art assets are from an asset store
clear sedge
I believe they are still working on particles effects and the such
digital epoch
plz no weeb, its will ruin the theme for everyone. its dosnt make any sense walking in highscool costumes in mediavel game
drifting zephyr
At least we don't (yet) have a cat girl or child race that can only be female and one of the classes is tied specifically to that race
silver beacon
Fun > immersion imo
stuck phoenix
@digital epoch 
full scroll
But I do agree with him
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
silk fractal
yeah I'm mostly talking about texture and stuff
oh oups
okay let's talk about it there
full scroll
I mean, we're looking at like a medieval style MMORPG with massive armors, spells etc. don't place anime kittens and little girls with rainbow hair, different games offer that.
silver beacon
I mean, it's not like they couldn't belong in the game
full scroll
Looking at the current like races and stuff, they definitely couldn't
silver beacon
In the end it's the art director's choice
sterile fjord
not every game needs anime assets 😄
digital epoch
no its Steven choice, he already he wont go that way, hope he keeps that
sterile fjord
i guess they will make a kinda bdo stylish game
stuck phoenix
every game needs animu assets
spice crypt
Got a question about UI:
Since there will be no addons, will it be close to customisation as ElvUI for WoW?
I don't want to waste time on move my eyes across the screen to look for party's health, track somewhere in some corner for buffs, debuffs etc.
sterile fjord
with flashy abilitys but normal looking charakters
full badger
Got a question about UI:
Since there will be no addons, will it be close to customisation as ElvUI for WoW?
I don't want to waste time on move my eyes across the screen to look for party's health, track somewhere in some corner for buffs, debuffs etc.
@spice crypt The UI will be modular and fully customisable
full scroll
But yeah, what Mist said
silver beacon
It's my honest opinion that games with less of a focus on realism in their art direction look and age better, so a bit of anime flair could do well
sterile fjord
@full scroll its a different for high gaming if you have to look in corners in a high intens moment so i can understand his question
silk fractal
is there a picture of the underrealm race?
silver beacon
None that I've seen
full badger
is there a picture of the underrealm race?
@silk fractal We have no information on the Tulnar yet
crystal flax
Old silhouettes that have been scrapped
sterile fjord
@spice crypt i guess they will have movebal ui yes
silver beacon
We just know they'll be pretty customizable and have reptilian, mammal, and humanoid features
full scroll
I'm just really hoping all classes will have good looking armor, the more epic the better 😄
spice crypt
@full scroll, try to do hardcore mythic keys in WoW - party's health will be running from 5% to 90% just right when you trying to track everything in milliseconds
@full badger Thanks, good to know
sterile fjord
can you guys take the anime talk to the General-discussion channel plz
spice crypt
And I'm not even talking about mythic raids, when you need to track every debuff on 20 people to despell. With native WoW UI it's not possible to do that effective and fast
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
sterile fjord
@spice crypt i understand your worrys and i think @idle siren said something in the line of they dont want addons to make the game easyer so they probably will pack in some ui options themselfs so your ui fits your playstyle
spice crypt
@full badger agree on that
I think it should be sticked as rule to channel then
burnt nymph
Will they upgrade the graphics ? They said they will blushing it ,will it make it look good as bdo ? Cuz now i have mix feeling about the 4k gamplay graphic 😅💔
silver beacon
Sometimes worthwhile discussions can come from questions so I think it should be a bit more lenient
burnt nymph
Sorry my english not that great lol
sterile fjord
@burnt nymph the grafic you saw is just some default stuff to test the game in alpha there will be a big change in grafics and animations when the game is done
full scroll
@burnt nymph Most of the graphical things are probably just unoptimized and made to look "decent", since that's not the main objective right now. I bet it will look better in terms of graphics and animations later.
clear sedge
One guild will only be able to control 1 node right ?
stuck phoenix
@burnt nymph Party/ Raid and Guild will have VC, there will no Proximity Chat, tho i heard some people say it'll be enabled in taverns
burnt nymph
@burnt nymph Party/ Raid and Guild will have VC, there will no Proximity Chat, tho i heard some people say it'll be enabled in taverns
@stuck phoenix nice so i dont need discord in the game
stuck phoenix
burnt nymph
Ty ❤️
reef osprey
@clear sedge guilds don't control nodes
single players do
clear sedge
Ahhhhh I see
reef osprey
@clear sedge theoretically, a guild could have the mayor of every single node in the game in their ranks
drifting zephyr
Does anyone know what sort of range/number of abilities we can expect a character to have? So far I've only seen the one 1->0 action bar and a smaller one for mount abilities with Shift 1->4. My main experience has been with WoW having 5 action bars full of keybound things
clear sedge
Oh okay
reef osprey
@drifting zephyr less than 30, but you can have multiple howbars through ui customization
tranquil willow
@drifting zephyr yeah but most of those buttons were useless, or rarely used
reef osprey
how many you put on your hotbar is your choice
lilac flame
Sorry if this question has already been answered, but will there be updates with new classes, jobs and weapons so we dont get tired and feel as if we have finished the game?
reef osprey
@lilac flame there will be quartly post launch updates yes
drifting zephyr
Alright that's cool then. WoW never had a ridiculous amount of abilities when I played, but it was nice to have keybound items or macros all over the place too
reef osprey
@drifting zephyr macros are strictly forbidden in ashes
crystal beacon
hi guys ..a question..how can i try this game ?
reef osprey
@crystal beacon either wait 1 year and buy the $ 250 pack for alpha 2 access
or wait 2-2.5 year until release and play it for $15 per month
acoustic eagle
Is the Troll of Joyous Artillery not available anymore?
crystal flax
Not anymore, no
reef osprey
@acoustic eagle they are exclusive to that month
acoustic eagle
Expeditionary pre-order pack: Jul 2019 - Aug 2019
Voyager plus pre-order pack: Jul 2019 - Aug 2019
Voyager pre-order pack: Jul 2019 - Aug 2019```
I guess I am a year too late. :cHahahah
surreal ravine
when is alpha one?
crystal flax
This Fall
potent thunderBOT
surreal ravine
how do you get it?
crystal flax
You can't currently
little laurel
Hello, question, Falconer (ranger+summoner) i am kinda thinking to play him, do you think that augments will change bow skills and instead of them you will have Falcon, that will atack or attack with you? I love that class in Ragnarok Online.
reef osprey
you should still use bows primarily with a falcon support, at least that's how i imagine the class
like a temporary falcon pet summon
sterile fjord
falcon support sounds more like stealth detection and stuff like that
umbral forge
i would imagine that its like having a familiar in dnd
little laurel
Yep, love that idea, that will sit on my shoulder and i will just send them to attack opponents, etc.
sterile fjord
well in dnd your familia is a seperate person waht means its an aditional dmg source but you still have your own bow and abilitys
if we talk about the Pen&paper and not an online game that is
dreamy temple
alpha date announced yet?
crystal flax
A1 this Fall
drifting zephyr
Do we know if Alpha 1 - Limited QA Testing and/or Alpha 1 General will be limited i.e. capped at a certain level or races or whatever? Or will we get our first look at all the class combinations and abilities (which I am hoping for)
Because the class names past secondary archetype are hella cool but abilities need to live up to it
oak depot
Capped at level 20
crystal flax
It'll only be the 8 base archetypes, and limited to human, elf, and dwarf I believe
dreamy temple
jeff said only 5 classes available this alpha
crystal flax
From what they've shown previously at least
drifting zephyr
Darn
dreamy temple
so no archetypes. just node system, combat etc im guessing
quasi thicket
Question: How does the combat compare to GW2. I know they said it is a hybrid action / tab target. More actiony than GW2 or something similar?
drifting zephyr
@quasi thicket Up to 75% of a character's abilities can be tab target or action, player choice
So you have to utilise both to some extent
No idea how that works in practise though, sorry
reef osprey
@quasi thicket gotta wait and see how it looks, everything right now is just promises and words
you can only judge a combat system once you know how it feels to play it yourself imo
lavish tartan
Any idea following @quasi thicket's question; if the abilities will also vary depending on main and off hand weapons?
dreamy temple
don’t think we have any information on that yet.
but steven was using a sword and shield in the live stream so im assuming there will be.
faint needle
No, it wont be like GW2's weapon-ability system
wild spade
hi guys i have a question is the game be like WoW SUB TO PLAY OR buy to play ?
faint needle
Only sub
wild spade
is it above 10$
stuck phoenix
15$
wild spade
im so sad
stuck phoenix
k 
wild spade
steven said that or ?
true ridge
Yes, it's always been like that
If you're worried it will be expensive for your country, there will be price harmonization
so it might be cheaper depending on the country
wild spade
iraq ?
wild spade
ty
zinc lava
So its going to be 1 skill bar ? Maybe someone knows
glad sleet
@zinc lava there will be an option to add more
clear sedge
Has it been talked if maybe the launcher will include p2p functions so people can act as seeders if they want ?
versed hollow
@clear sedge not been talked about, but what some devs do is release the game in a torrent file as well as download through the launcher it may happen, but again, may not
full badger
That might be something to ask for the next Q&A @clear sedge
clear sedge
Oh okay, because while I have fiber internet I'm in Japan and it's pretty slow to download stuff from basically any other country
full badger
I'm in the same situation here in the UK. Our internet speeds are really really slow
crystal beacon
when tank is tanking boss in raid and you use aoe spell on boss will it also do damage to tank and other players that are near?
versed hollow
@crystal beacon no
crystal beacon
didnt they said you can kill everyone ?
versed hollow
ashes uses a flagging system, and generally people in your party can;t be attacked by you anyway
crystal beacon
what is flagging system
full badger
@crystal beacon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_flagging
versed hollow
it's a system to say "look I'm gonna be doing pvp now" you can read about it here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_flagging
lost bridge
Has there been anything released about Lore beyond the apocalypse?
versed hollow
@lost bridge Apocalypse was a testing environment, so it's unlikely that there will be Lore about it
crystal beacon
so when you have combatant in raid you can hit him ?
crystal beacon
and how combatant become noncombatant
unkempt gale
would make you hve to be more strategic
lost bridge
@lost bridge Apocalypse was a testing environment, so it's unlikely that there will be Lore about it
@versed hollow Not referring to the game type, referring to the time period in which our characters hopped worlds to escape a literal apocalypse.
versed hollow
@crystal beacon it's highly unlikely that you will be able to attack people in the same party as you outside of duels
full badger
@lost bridge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore
crystal beacon
@versed hollow when i was watching video they were attacking boss they were like 4 in party but there was 20players around
versed hollow
@lost bridge ah got ya, had a look and found this https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse_lore
@crystal beacon no one there was flagged for PVP
crystal beacon
how do you flag for pvp
unkempt gale
@versed hollow you will be able to attack people not flagged for PVP
versed hollow
it will be a button or combination of buttons you have to press to toggle if you are flagged or not
crystal beacon
on page you sent it says noncombatant can attack noncombatant
unkempt gale
and combatent can attck non-combatant
versed hollow
@crystal beacon if you are flagged and become a combatant, you can attack non-combatants, but that will make you a corrupted player.
crystal beacon
but noncombatant can attack noncombatant
unkempt gale
yes
crystal beacon
so you can hit other people when killing boss
unkempt gale
i hope so
versed hollow
@crystal beacon no, you have to flag for PVP to attack a non-combatant
crystal beacon
so you can disable and enable pvp like in wow ?
versed hollow
yes
digital aspen
Non combatant that attacks another non combatant turn himself into combatant, cant stay as non combatant if you start, i believe
crystal beacon
so for what reason there is that corruption system
crystal beacon
people who dont want to be attacked just disable pvp
unkempt gale
literally says NONs can attack NONs @versed hollow
versed hollow
@crystal beacon the corruption system is a punishment system for killing non-combatants https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Corruption
crystal beacon
@versed hollow why you get pushined when they enabled pvp
versed hollow
@crystal beacon only if you attack a non-combatant, if 2 combatants fogith each othere, there is no corruption gained
orchid fossil
Do we know if the family system add a common family name on all the players within family?
main ridge
It doesn’t have a family name
orchid fossil
they said it explicitly ?
crystal beacon
@versed hollow but for what reason would noncombatants turn on PVP
orchid fossil
ok thanks !
versed hollow
@crystal beacon someone might be annoying you, stealing your mobs, others just like to PVP. Plenty of reasons to turn pvp on
oak depot
@crystal beacon to defend themselves
orchid fossil
too bad i find it nice to share a name but i get the spies issue
crystal beacon
@oak depot theogerman said players cant attack you unless you turn on PVP
oak depot
That’s not true
zinc lava
@crystal beacon it is not like that enable disable pvp
unkempt gale
Actually they wouldnt need to turn on Combatant mode, attacking anyone as a noncombatant just turns you into a combatant. even other noncombatants @versed hollow
@crystal beacon
crystal beacon
so your aoe can hit other players
oak depot
If you fight back and they kill you they don’t get corrupted
AOE is different
AOE is a flag you as a player set to determine if it will affect dmg to other players for PvP or not
By default it is off
Meaning your AOE will not flag for PvP
zinc lava
To attack other player u have to for example hold ctrl button
versed hollow
@crystal beacon by attacking a non-combatant you flag yourself as a combatant, BUT you won't have people randomly walking into your attacks causing you to flag. You will have to press a button to force yourself to attack them. @oak depot the AOE toggle is only against flagged players to auto flag yourself
crystal beacon
so you can turn on/off if you want your aoe to hit players ?
unkempt gale
darn. it would be nice if your AOEs would effect your party. Would make you have to think instead of the usual, sit in the monsters face while swinging a sword
versed hollow
@crystal beacon Players will be able to opt-in (via a checkbox) to allow their beneficial or non-beneficial AoEs to hit flagged players.
oak depot
The checkbox only applies when non-combatant and combatant interaction occurs I believe
crystal beacon
and who are flagged players ?
oak depot
People that are combatant or corrupted
crystal beacon
so you cant use aoe on noncombatant even when you enable that setting
oak depot
Also, note, currently a combatant player that attacks you does not get corrupted if you fight back or if they don’t kill you but just cause damage
oak depot
There is a debate on griefing potential of attacking you to low health and letting mobs kill you
@unkempt gale if you don’t fight back and they kill you they get corrupted
unkempt gale
not according to the chart
im not saying thats how its supposed to be, im simply looking at the chart
or does that not count killing just attacking?
zinc lava
We could solve like that, For example if i poison a non-combat player, and if he dies from that ever from me or mob wia 10 seconds after my poisons i got corrupted
fathom geyser
oak depot
@unkempt gale in chart if purple kills green they become red
unkempt gale
@oak depot i was talking about non-combatant killing non-combatant. sorry, i must have misuderstoood
fathom geyser
When attacking you become a combatant
oak depot
As soon as green attacks green the attacker becomes purple
fathom geyser
read the chart
oak depot
Sure... attack but not kill
zinc lava
u guys never played lineage2 ?
unkempt gale
Well, its not super clear, because it says if a combatant player KILLS a non-combatant player they become corrupted, so i assumed non-combatant wouldnt change stat until they KILLED like the combatant
fathom geyser
non-combatant would remain a non-combatant if they are getting attacked and choose not too
unkempt gale
thats not what i meant, but yes
oak depot
and you migth wonder why you would ever fight back... well, if you fight back you drop less loot when you die then if you don't fight back (50% less to be exact)
if you die... you always drop loot
unkempt gale
thats is true. lol, i like that system
oak depot
loot means gatherable items, not armor/weapon items
fathom geyser
I wonder if you'd camp high tier resource gathering areas to occasionally gank players
oak depot
if you are corrupted however (very corrupted to be exact as there is a scale) and you are killed you can drop completed items (armor / weapons)
unkempt gale
@fathom geyser the corruption would eventually make you unable to do combat
fathom geyser
yeah occasionallly
unkempt gale
and reduce your health and other stats
fathom geyser
If the other tplayer fights back you dont get a corruption stack
magic escarp
Does anyone know if the animal husbandry system will produce hybrid creatures if 2 different species are mixed or is it gonna be strict species breeding with variant changes in looks, abilities and stats?
unkempt gale
yeah, but after you get corrupted enough your health and stat get lowered by a significant ammout, so someone could just kill you @fathom geyser
@magic escarp i think so?
i heard that somewhere
woeful vector
Does anyone know if the animal husbandry system will produce hybrid creatures if 2 different species are mixed or is it gonna be strict species breeding with variant changes in looks, abilities and stats?
@magic escarp
Physical-wise, yes. Ability-wise Im not sure
unkempt gale
imma be a husbander
woeful vector
Np
unkempt gale
husbandrier?
magic escarp
same that is such a cool feature of the game for me
unkempt gale
whatever it's called
magic escarp
breeder?
tough grotto
Animal Breeding Simulator (which is exciting)
magic escarp
anibender XD
magic escarp
heard it here first folks
unkempt gale
we can work together lol, we'll be the best Anibenders this side of Tolken
oak depot
For husbandry you can create cross-breeds. That’s the whole point. It is unknown (and a question I have for the Devs) whether you can breed cross-breeds with pure or other cross-breeds to create a chimera
craggy panther
Like crossing the species barrier? That would be intresting
magic escarp
if you can that would be sick
oak depot
Also breed will follow genetic rules of dominant and recessive genes. So two breeds of same pures could lead to different results depending on their recessive genes
unkempt gale
i wanna chimera.....Sniffle Pwease devs?
magic escarp
the only thing though is if u have land and water mnounts and how they mix
and whether they become amphibious or restricted or limited based on travel type
coral sundial
Anibender I love it
oak depot
I believe they said you can breed an ant-eater with a giraffe as an extreme example. So definitely crossing the species barrier
magic escarp
oh yeah i think we have seen that mount in the released footage
oak depot
Only Dragons cannot be bred
magic escarp
fair that would be a bit OP
glacial dagger
If dragons could be bred it would take away all purpose of flying mounts being exclusive.
Assuming you could ride these bred dragons
oak depot
That spider from dev update yesterday bred with a giraffe ...
Unless you can’t cross arachnids with mammals
magic escarp
@glacial dagger unless the only thing that carried across was like a fire ability or something like that
craggy panther
This has become more of a discussion so we should move it to #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion
magic escarp
fair
glacial dagger
tru
lyric pecan
Are we gonna be able to cook the legendary dragon egg using the cooking profession for a specialize buff such as fire resistance?
fathom geyser
Wait your profile pic is the guy from solo leveling
lyric pecan
Yup
wild marsh
I haven't heard or seen anything about that @lyric pecan but I bet if you posted it as a suggestion on the forums it'd be something they'd Def take into consideration.
lofty patio
I watched the video released today and they said there will be level scaling. What is the incentive to get people out of their starting areas and actually explore the world instead of just mob farm off the bat?
fathom geyser
Maybe start a new node with different certificate pools
lyric pecan
Each node will have a different set of resources I believe
wild marsh
@lofty patio They said there won't be level scaling. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Level_scaling
There won't be zones, so there's going to be mobs of all levels in every part of the world. If the mob makes sense in that area, it will more than likely be there, versus having mobs of one level per zone
teal island
Are there going to instrument emotes in this game or playable instruments in any way?
echo dew
seeing as bard is portrayed as more of a story terller so maybe and maybe not, i'd assume that there will be tho (seperate from the bard class)
wild marsh
@teal island They will have a lot of RP features, but idk if they will as I believe that will be more of a bard feature.
teal island
That is enought, as long as there is music outside of the deffult ingame music
maybe have npc bards in taverns aswell
primal solstice
hi guys some1 knows if there is some warning be4 monster attack? i mean like red on the floor or where its going to hit..
oak depot
Some songs will change allegiance I am sure
clear sedge
Is the game getting developed on ue4 version 4.5?
teal island
@oak depot that would be cool
clear sedge
@primal solstice don't think so in today's stream they were talking about a monster sneaking up on you and being scary
wild marsh
@clear sedge I think they may be talking about actual abilities. Such as if they use a rock throw.
oak depot
primal solstice
hi guys some1 knows if there is some warning be4 monster attack? i mean like red on the floor or where its going to hit..
@primal solstice any one??
clear sedge
Sorry tagged the wrong person
@primal solstice I> @primal solstice don't think so in today's stream they were talking about a monster sneaking up on you and being scary
@clear sedge
primal solstice
okie, u can being scary but to see the impact area as well , thats what i think..
i mean for world bosses and mini boses i think that neccesary
wild marsh
@primal solstice https://youtu.be/W-yd8qcMtOA?t=1309 You can see the pre-alpha gameplay of a boss and get the full understanding on how it works.
reef osprey
@primal solstice you mean a telegraph?
ashen gull
Will there be material storage chest? In GW2 they implemented system where you could deposit materials into Material Bank and each mat would stack up to 1000 to save space
inventory management is issue in many mmos in the past
boreal charm
What are you guys guesses on PC requirements?
reef osprey
@ashen gull there will be warehouses yes
full badger
@boreal charm The devs intend for the game to run on hardware 3-5 years old
wild marsh
@boreal charm https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Performance
boreal charm
Thank you guys
reef osprey
@boreal charm Steven said in the last interview, that you can expect the recommend requirements of current UE4 games to be the min-requirements for ashes
ashen gull
between now and release if you upgrade the PC it should run it
craggy panther
@boreal charm Right now the devs have said take a look at games that currently run on unreal and expect the pc requirements to be similar. I would saya that if your pc can run Ark survival then it can run Ashes
primal solstice
@primal solstice you mean a telegraph?
@reef osprey i mean like wildstar system when u can see where mobs are going to hit
wild marsh
@reef osprey i mean like wildstar system when u can see where mobs are going to hit
@primal solstice https://youtu.be/W-yd8qcMtOA?t=1309 You can see the pre-alpha gameplay of a boss and get the full understanding on how it works.
reef osprey
@primal solstice yeah
maybe not telegraphed, but there will be some sort of warning
boreal charm
I'm gonna re ask my question; What will be the requirements to run 500v500 with proper fps ? xD
primal solstice
@primal solstice yeah
maybe not telegraphed, but there will be some sort of warning
@reef osprey so its still unknown , okie thx.
oak depot
@boreal charm Threadripper with a 2080 at minimum
echo dew
I'm gonna re ask my question; What will be the requirements to run 500v500 with proper fps ? xD
@boreal charm for now its 250v250
reef osprey
@boreal charm can't say that yet
the devs don't even know yet whether they manage 500v500 serverside
boreal charm
I'm just kidding boys & girls, obviously they have no idea yet xD
wild marsh
@boreal charm I believe Steven said in one of the more recent events that those raids will have some things rendered down to improve performance. Cosmetics, etc. being some of them. So it may be possible with the current requirements if everything is set to minimal
oak depot
I just built a threadripper with a 2080 a month ago. So all set
oak depot
Haha. Got 10TB of NVMe storage too
unkempt gale
STAHP before i get a nosebleed
wild marsh
Let's take that to #general-discussion 🙂
boreal charm
@wild marsh I see
unkempt gale
sorry
umbral crater
Anyone know who the artist was that made this concept and several others in the same style? (from aoc wiki) http://prntscr.com/tsakdl
crystal beacon
is there gonna be a AH
craggy panther
@umbral crater google Artstaion Ashes of creation you may eb able to find it
wild marsh
@crystal beacon There will, but it will be localized to each node I believe.
crystal beacon
👍
craggy panther
@crystal beacon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Auction_house
umbral crater
Steven touched on the AH on the last livestream i believe. The basic premis was that each node had its own localized AH, however higher tier nodes would share with lower tier nodes around it to be one larger AH
digital aspen
Those high tier nodes being Economic, i believe, not all of them will have that style of AH, not 100% sure
worthy holly
Economic nodes can connect to each other
"Economic Nodes that have reached the Metropolis Stage unlock the Superpower “Linked Economy”. Any Economic Node with this Superpower unlocked shares Auction House listings with all the others, meaning that the items listed in one Linked Economy Node can be bid on from any other Linked Economy Node. Linked Economies also connect a Metropolis and any Vassal Economic Nodes belonging to that Metropolis."
worthy holly
Not wrong. That's literally a quote from the devs.
It could just be that you're also right
silk fractal
Can a guild own several cities? Or there's a cap on 1 per guild?
boreal abyss
Link that talks about how AH links up to vassals:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/696369290?t=01h34m12s
Link that confirms no travel needed to pick up items:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/696369290?t=01h36m10s
@worthy holly
worthy holly
Guilds don't own cities
worthy holly
Individuals
digital aspen
Castles
worthy holly
There's only 5 unique castles in the game
silk fractal
I thought guilds could dec a bode win the siege and control the node
So that's not the case I gather
digital aspen
Ofc guilds will influence on mayors, and node sieges, but i don't think Node sieges will be exclusively for guilds, but for everyone. And castles will be for guilds
umbral crater
Guilds can Siege castles and nodes of multiple tiers.
silk fractal
Ah interesting only 5 castles, can a guild own more than onr castle?
umbral crater
@silk fractal Just one
worthy holly
Yeah, everyone can do anything but ofc guild influence is going to make it way easier.
umbral crater
I dont think its been explicity said if a guild can own both a Castle and a Node tho.
worthy holly
But yeah the castles can levy taxes from nodes under their influence.
silk fractal
So basically castle siege is guild v guild(is it limited to a 1v1 or alliances of guilds or?)
worthy holly
Nodes are for everybody, so maybe a guild or mayhaps not
digital aspen
Will be very political, alliances to protect your mayorship, to take down mayors, and put your own depending on the type of the node, i like that lol
silk fractal
Then node siege anyone can participate?
scarlet topaz
@silk fractal Castles are static PvE environments (Basically Raids) that after defeated become Guild owned and the Guild Leader becomes a Monarch of the Castle, Metros grow with the node and have an elected leader that is a citizen of the node with a different election depending on node type.
worthy holly
They can do a tyranny
scarlet topaz
There will be an overthrow tho.
worthy holly
tru
pulsar roost
depends on the node type as well
umbral crater
@viral torrent Are you able to tell me the name of the artist that produced this concept? http://prntscr.com/tsakdl
silk fractal
How does the mayor vote works I know there is 4 types of metro right? Is there one that let's a guild pretty much keep control of mayor role unless you lose the guild siege for the castle?
viral torrent
@umbral crater I'm afraid not
worthy holly
Node elections have nothing to do with castles
silk fractal
So a guild keeps control of castles okay that's cool
scarlet topaz
@silk fractal Elections start at the Village stage (Level 3) Scientific nodes are the only one where voting occurs.
silk fractal
As for nodes
Is there 1 of the election mode that lets you keep the mayor role unless they siege the metro(not castle siege)
Okay so scientific is democratic
What are the other 3 nodes type?
Military is a 1v1 right?
scarlet topaz
If the Metro is sieged, the metro is gone.
silk fractal
Or free for all or something
boreal abyss
Military - Combat
Economic - Money (buy position)
Divine - Biggest contributor service wise (quest)
silk fractal
Ah right it's seperated as well
sterile acorn
Scientific node = Popularity contest?
boreal abyss
yes
silk fractal
So military or economic would be the way
For a guild to keep control
Military works how exactly?
boreal abyss
Guilds can influence all node types
scarlet topaz
No guild is going to control everything. Players will form alliances out of spite.
silk fractal
Also who gets the tax money from being mayor of a metro? (if there is such a thing?)
worthy holly
They mayor
clear sedge
@silk fractal the money is only used for the city I believe
silk fractal
Ah so top guilds will have control of several nodes that's cool
digital aspen
The tax money i think goes to the city, to improve things? i mean, not to the mayors pocket
scarlet topaz
Yes
worthy holly
Nodes can be owned by individuals
clear sedge
scarlet topaz
It will form a nice dichotomy between castles and metros
worthy holly
A rando could buy out an eco node, or have contributed the most to a divine node, or win the combat in a military node.
Nodes fall under castles though. So a guild would "own" the nodes near it but not have control of that local government
digital aspen
it's all about influence and politics LOL, i love it
worthy holly
I
scarlet topaz
Yes
worthy holly
I am so ready for some GoT type shenanigans
tulip ember
Can 1 person own a castle and be mayor of a metro
worthy holly
Not sure
reef osprey
@tulip ember we don't know of any rule that forbids that, so possibly yeah
worthy holly
It would be in your best interests to give the metro to an officer anyways.
craggy panther
I think it was mentioned a long time back that a Castle owner cannot be the mayor of a node, but it was a long time ago
scarlet topaz
They would have to be a citizen of the metro and a member of the castle garrison at the same time.
reef osprey
@craggy panther could be, but then you would have one of your officers be mayor
sharp forge
What is the reasoning behind dampening powers of corrupted players in PvP? 
reef osprey
@sharp forge
corruption is a punishment mechanic
digital aspen
Punishment.
worthy holly
because corruption is SUPPOSE to be a punishment
pulsar roost
to stop griefers, you only go corrupted if they don't fight back
scarlet topaz
More punishment
rough meadow
Question: Will there be a resistance mechanic? Where if a water NPC will be weak to lightning and more resistant to fire etc?
digital aspen
Hard punishment.
sharp forge
I kinda enjoy the idea of like outlaw guild
reef osprey
@rough meadow there will be elemental resistances yes
worthy holly
The idea is you're not suppose to be an ass to non-pvp players
digital aspen
@rough meadow yes
worthy holly
YOu can still be a group of outlaws
rough meadow
Alright ty for info^^
sharp forge
Yea but it's the only "scaling" in the game
reef osprey
@sharp forge you can make a guild of outlaws that focus on raiding caravans and stealing that loot
you can't have a murder guild
pulsar roost
Attacking Caravans doesn't trigger corruption from what i recall reading
scarlet topaz
Yes
sharp forge
Yea but you kinda need to know about them
lean raptor
I mean you can but it will suck xd
you can't have a murder guild
@reef osprey
sharp forge
Like i can imagine some poeple would get corrupted just to get hunted down
worthy holly
True
reef osprey
correct @pulsar roost
you can also use the guild to declare a war on certain guilds and their people, that would allow you to murder them corruption free
worthy holly
But it also matters how corrupted you become
Also keep in mind
That you aren't weaker to bounty hunters.
worthy holly
You only become weaker to the average joe who isn't in the cat-and-mouse game
That's according to the guy who owns ashes 101. He said it in a Q&A
So overall I think it's a very fair system
reef osprey
@worthy holly nah, that's confirmed
sharp forge
Ok that sounds better
Would rather see different punishment than playing with players power
but it's okay for me i guess
worthy holly
It's a way to prvent people from killing players that are just minding their own business, but it doesn't bar you from doing so
It just matters how often you do it.
I honestly think it's a great system
sharp forge
Yea i know, attacking npcs on sight, dropping gear, dropping loot seems like enough for me
reef osprey
@sharp forge i think that was implemented to combat the best geared/furthest developed characters to just keep slaying people as others can't stop them
distant wind
pineapple or watermelon?
sharp forge
maybe i would swap dampening in PvP for like spawning some npc assassin nearby
worthy holly
Watermelon
reef osprey
npcs will always be evaded easily
you need the stat dampening, or the strongest players in the game could just keep killing weaker players
as other player wouldn't be able to stop them
worthy holly
Again, this dampening only happens against people that aren't pursuing you.
sharp forge
if you team up with bounty hunters
worthy holly
It just keeps the server from being like stranglethorn vale every inch
primal holly
Hey 😄 Is it possible to buy only a 1 month alpha access?
worthy holly
You can buy into alpha 2, but it's a big price tag and a few months of play time
reef osprey
@worthy holly what i don't like is, that green players can attack corrupted players first, and the corrupted player keeps stacking up corruption even though they just defended themselves at this point
worthy holly
I agree, the green players need to turn purple if they fight back
reef osprey
@worthy holly not fight back, initiate the attack
worthy holly
That's what I meant lol mb
reef osprey
@worthy holly to be fair, it's 250 $ i think, and you get 9months of game time + 100$ worth of embers, so the actual price for cosmetics + access is just 60 $ which is fair
wanna move this to aoc discussion?
worthy holly
I think it's fair, I was just replying to that guy's inquiry
primal holly
one of the youtubers said that this game wont be like WOW and other mmorpgs --> not pay to win
Can anyone tell me which efforts the developing team is having in mind, to make this happen_
?*
worthy holly
The only in-game shop involving real money is for cosmetics.
silk fractal
You can pay ppl to run you raids too
It's not p2w compared to eastern mmos
As in you can't buy currency with money directly within the game
scarlet topaz
There are more safeguards in place than modern WoW.
reef osprey
@primal holly the in-game shop won't have any items that give you any kind of advantage
it's cosmetic only
primal holly
interesting 😄
digital aspen
and high ammount of gold transactions, that aren't supposed to be normal at certain times, will be flagged and monitored, pretty sure Steven said that too
worthy holly
There will also be a large team of GMs monitoring servers, unlike other MMOs which are automated and easy to get around
primal holly
and high ammount of gold transactions, that aren't supposed to be normal at certain times, will be flagged and monitored, pretty sure Steven said that too
@digital aspen
Very nice!!
scarlet topaz
Steven has talked about the importance of human GMs stopping gold sellers.
versed hollow
@dreamy temple unknown at this point, but i would assume there will be easy quests and hard quests
wind storm
morning all
primal holly
There will also be a large team of GMs monitoring servers, unlike other MMOs which are automated and easy to get around
@worthy holly
In other games, some players were given the possibility to become GMs / mods , any idea if the team is also considering this as an Option?
tough grotto
I have a question, Are the backers able to play the game atm even before the Alpha comes? , and if yes, are there any videos on these people's experience or write ups to read
silk fractal
Yeah and that's the only real way to stop it @scarlet topaz you have to have human people monitor logs and go hard on rmt so people are too scared to do it and you get punished.
versed hollow
@primal holly unlikely, problem with allowing random people that kind of power almost always leads to power abuse
digital aspen
Don't think so... i believe should be only the Staff, from Intrepid @primal holly
stable plover
@dreamy temple There will be solo quests. Quests won't be obviously marked, for more info read https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Quests
primal holly
and for the alpha players , will they keep their items when the game starts (officially) ?
dreamy temple
much appreciated, @versed hollow @stable plover
versed hollow
@tough grotto Pheonix initiative backers and soon, Leader of Men backers have access to the pre-Alpha
wind storm
i would guess a clean wipe except for cosmetics and such upon launch
stable plover
@tough grotto This is Shaze's writeup from the last test the pre-alpha testers could talk about https://docs.google.com/document/d/16RU_ps2N6-8QehGJTN6CD1lpOtbr9PZj971G1L5OhmY/edit?usp=sharing
primal holly
@primal holly unlikely, problem with allowing random people that kind of power almost always leads to power abuse
@versed hollow I hope so! plenty of other games were ruined like this.. and I hope, if the game does such a thing then with a contract
so they cant power abuse
fresh dust
when will we be able to purchase preorder packs from the garbage EU publisher? they mention 'technical difficulties' for weeks now! https://aocreation.com/en#preorder
worthy holly
@primal holly I doubt it. I'd imagine it'd be a clean swipe to keep alpha players from having an edge when the game opens up to others.
tough grotto
thanks folks, and if there are videos of these people playing the game pre-alpha I would love to watch it as well
stable plover
@primal holly There might be some cosmetics they keep, but any character progress / housing / server nodes / etc will be wiped
@tough grotto The prealpha is under NDA so the only videos of people playing it are from the devs - People can currently discuss their experiences from two of the playtests so far though.
wind storm
yea no at advantages
tough grotto
oh I see, thanks grey for the info 
worthy holly
@tough grotto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwaYLOuw2s
digital aspen
@stable plover do you know if there will be price localization for some countries? like, a SA server with price localization? since SA economy, more specific Brazil, is a joke...
tough grotto
I watched that Spiffy, I was looking for players ones but there is a NDA xD , when is the upcoming Alpha test though?
worthy holly
@tough grotto Ah, mb. Alpha 1 is coming this Fall
I don't believe there's a set date though
stable plover
@digital aspen There will be price localization in some countries, probably not until post launch, the localized price only applies to the servers in those countries.
digital aspen
Thank you !
stable plover
@tough grotto We know there's a test sometime in August that's still under NDA - Before the end of the year there will be no NDA when A1 fully launches
tough grotto
Noice, can't wait
scarlet flower
Wow, why are the prizes in the EU store in Euro?
That's like double
Ok, nvm, I can't do math its the same
reef osprey
@primal holly no, everything is wiped pre-release except cash shop cosmetics and stuff
scarlet flower
I guess my question is, since I'm in Europe, should I be purchasing preorder packs from the Eu store?
reef osprey
@scarlet flower what EU store?
reef osprey
@scarlet flower wait, is this a legit site?
i can't see a link from the official english site to that
unreal zealot
its my.coms ashes site i believe
scarlet flower
Idk, someone posted in in #general-discussion
unreal zealot
since there hosting the severs it makes sence they host the eu site to
steven said "soon" we should hear about my.com opening up pre orders and such again i think
or at least an update
woeful vector
I got a two part question in regards to this corruption system.
From what I understand from the corruption system, is that you’ll get flagged the second you kill a player who is a non combatant? Is that correct?
unkempt gale
i have a question. Will we be able to dodge attacks? or will it be like Most MMOs where enemies can hit you without actually hitting you?
woeful vector
flagged as in get corrupted
umbral crater
You only become corrupted after killing several players.
unreal zealot
@woeful vector yes i believe thats how it works
umbral crater
If you kill one player, you become a combatant (aka Flagging)
In this state you can be attacked
worthy holly
@unkempt gale a great chunk of the combat is action-based so I'd image those would actually have to hit you.
woeful vector
okay, so if a player from another node is traveling through my node and is harvesting/mining, its only natural I would want to ward him away for taking resources from my node. If I were to kill this person from another node, would this corrupt me?
umbral crater
No.
worthy holly
Honestly the combat is so far from complete that we don't know how it'll be
reef osprey
@scarlet flower @unreal zealot
i'd stay clear of this site for now.
Ashes of Creation has not been promoted by my.com for the past 3 months.
And Steven promised us that there will be an update regarding the EU Situation shortly.
I wouldn't purchase anything there until we heard the update from Steven
umbral crater
It will deem you as a 'combatant'. This is the stage prior to being 'corrupted'
craggy panther
@woeful vector If you are non combatnat and you attack a non combatant you will beocme a combatant, as a combatant if you kill a non combatant you will gain corruption. so yes
worthy holly
@unkempt gale Ah, but they did make a battle royale game just to test the combat that is* complete and it looks pretty good on that front
craggy panther
assuming he doesnt flag and defend himself
reef osprey
@scarlet flower @unreal zealot the items displayed have also not been updated for the entirety of July
woeful vector
I guess Im not explaining correctly. the core of my question is, will I be flagged as a combatant and eventually corrupted, if I kill people that are not from my node who are stealing valuable resources from my node and taking them to their node?
unreal zealot
@reef osprey you cant even buy off it anyway xD
craggy panther
Yes
reef osprey
@woeful vector you will get corrupted if you attack them, kill them without them having fought back
woeful vector
okay, so there is no way I can ward players from stealing my resources in my node from players from other nodes?
reef osprey
@crystal beacon everybody can start there
stable plover
warm ore
head start servers? when the game launches or is it for test servers?
reef osprey
@woeful vector not really, it's not the ressources of your node either way.
Its resources that lie within the zone of influence of your node.
@warm ore launch
warm ore
ah k
unreal zealot
@warm ore for launch they can level to 10 i believe but cant progress any nodes for the first 3 days
craggy panther
You cant think of it as stealing resources from your node. its gathering resources within the world. just because they are in the nodes ZOI doesnt make them belong to that node
stable plover
reef osprey
@crystal beacon stagger the load on the login server to be exact.
People that are already logged in won't have to join the queue on the login server
stable plover
@crystal beacon Anyone could eventually play on a HS server, but only KS ppl can play on them in the first 1-2 days
woeful vector
However, if a very very rare resource were to appear in my node, I wouldn’t want people from other nodes taking that. I would want to take it for my node. I think players should be flagged as combatants the second they enter a node thats not their node or dont have a alliance or guild that owns that node
i wish Steven was here to answer
😆
reef osprey
@woeful vector but you don't take them for your node.
You take them for yourself. The node doesn't have anything from yourself making profit
the Node gets the exp
that's about it
glad sleet
Yes
woeful vector
so there are no resources aside Xp to build a metropolis?
glad sleet
KS still have to queue with rest of people
reef osprey
@woeful vector yes there are, but people have to donate them willingly.
Just because a member of your node collects it doesn't mean they will share anythign with the node
pearl lynx
SO I have a question , I watched the stream yesterday, and was interested in the mount question that was brought up , it was said that flying mounts that are dropped by legendary bosses have an egg life and can be extended through various ways and other mounts from nobility are temporary ( I understand all that) but what about ground mounts , are they permanent ? do they have different "tiers" ?
reef osprey
@pearl lynx we don't know if they will be permanent
but they do have different tiers
gentle rune
woeful vector
true but I would prefer the playerd in my node take that valuable resource that allows our node to evolveinto the next level or give our node an advantage over the competing node next door
craggy panther
That would be like having a puesdo faction system, and thats not something ashes will have. Players should be able to decide who there freinds are and who theire friends arent. SO if you see someone taking the resources feel free to go out and kill him if you want the resources. But there has ato be some sort of downside to killing someone just to take his stuff, or stop him from farming if they didnt have the corruption system the game would just be a giant gank fest @woeful vector
silent brook
Ground mounts will not have a “lifetime”
reef osprey
@gentle rune those are types
ground
water
flying
not tiers
onyx knoll
@pearl lynx Mounts come in 3 tiers, tier 1 = ground mounts, tiers 2 = gliding/swiming mounts and tier 3 = royal mounts (aka flying/pvp). Only the tier 3 mounts are not permanant, everything else you will keep forever. Mounts can die however, but you can rez them after a certain amount of time (some items will help you rez mounts faster)
reef osprey
@silent brook i'm not sure about that. Even gear has a lifetime, so it's not that ridiculous to think that ground mounds wouldn't have either
silent brook
@reef osprey was confirmed by Steven
umbral crater
Technically they are not permenant, the Nobility mounts are available for use for players with the Nobility Status gained from things like being a king or queen (this alows them to use flying mounts)... we can make the assumption that when the Nobilit Status is lost they lose the ability to use flying mounts.
woeful vector
gankfest is already established through caravan ganking though and to allow players from competing nodes to collect reaources to get to a metropolis faster than your node is already a faction based system hence why we get sieges
pearl lynx
ty all 🙂
scarlet topaz
If you are a Monarch, does that mean your family group becomes the royal family? Do they get mounts? Does your wife get one?
crystal beacon
Hey yall! My new question: if i buy a founders pack, how much do the cosmetic items cost after that? It says i can buy them seperate then.
umbral crater
@scarlet topaz No
scarlet topaz
Thought so
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon
silent brook
@scarlet topaz he didn’t say anything about family getting them, but he did say that you can delicate officers to getting a “lesser” mount
crystal beacon
Thank yoi
silent brook
He made reference to the witch-king and nazghuls from Lord of the Rings
onyx knoll
@silent brook @scarlet topaz the officer mounts are only for during sieges tho I think
silent brook
@onyx knoll correct
rich monolith
Hey guys. I was wondering, since there isn't going to be a health pool for pvp targets, would it be the same for creatures? Kind of the knowledge system on BDO?
digital aspen
pretty sure creatures will have a health pool on target
at least on the 17 min gameplay it had
polar pawn
with the node vassal system why would anyone want to put their freehold/house anywhere else other than the biggest node?
onyx knoll
@rich monolith From the footage they have shown so far, pve targets have their HP shown. That might still change, but so far it does seem like they want the hidden stats to only be for pvp
@polar pawn The big nodes will change around, so let's say you placed a Freehold close to a Tier 6, and that T6 gets sieged and loses, suddenly it's a T0 and your freehold is either gone, if it was too close, or you're now close to only a T5 or 4! 😛
pearl lynx
in the voyager + pack , are theese already past ? Access to future Alpha Two test phase
Access to future Beta One test phase
Access to future Beta Two test phase
winter parrot
Will starting Racial Stats create a Class Meta where only the best mages are Elves or the best tanks are Dwarven? I understand that every race can play any class but how realistic will it actually be for the min/maxers?
onyx knoll
@pearl lynx The alpha 1 is starting in fall, so no
pearl lynx
ty
reef osprey
@polar pawn
Citizenship is limited and increases in cost depending on how many citizen are already in the node (becoming a citizen of a stage 6 node can be really fucking expensive)
Citizenship to a node is limited by the amount of apartment buildings the mayor constructs
Citizenship of a metropolis node doesn't have many known advantages over citizenship in a vassal node.
Taxes might be higher.
Bigger risk of getting sieged and losing all your stuff in the node
polar pawn
so you'll have access to all the recipes and services and crap from the parent node?
onyx knoll
@winter parrot We don't have numbers on the racials yet but Steven said he wanted them to be more flavor then bit bonuses and they they probably wouldn't matter a ton, but if you want to min max then yeah there will most likely be an optimal race/archetype combo
twilit gate
Hey folks! I’m new here, a friend of mine turned me onto this game a couple days ago. So I’m still sifting through alllllll the information out there on it, not to mention in the discord!
My question for y’all is has there been anything said about a class that revolves around a 2h spear type gameplay (similar to a dragoon in FFXIV). I’ve always liked the aesthetic. I’ve seen that spears are in the game but nothing about if a class is built around that.
reef osprey
@twilit gate you can have whatever weapon on whatever class you want.
Some lend themselves to it more than others.
I'd try the Fighter/Rogue/Tank or Cleric Archetype if you feel like utilizing a spear
as mages, summoners, rangers and bards are unlikely to profit from one
onyx knoll
@twilit gate Every archetype can use every weapon. Some will have a better time with specific type of weapons (like rangers with bow for example), but as for exemple a fighter, you could use any type of melee weapon. Lances and spears are a confirmed weapon type
reef osprey
no mounted combat, but if you want to impale someone with a lance, then you can do it
onyx knoll
Well, kinda, the Royal mounts can be used in PvP but they are very rare and have their own pvp abilities
twilit gate
Sweet
umbral crater
@idle siren @royal nexus @blazing orchid @tight gale http://prntscr.com/tsbn4v Would it be possible to get the name of the concept artist for this piece? or a link to their online portfolio perhaps? Im interested in their other pieces! thanks
polar pawn
a lance is a weapon only used from horseback though, or is it called something different ingame
onyx knoll
The list of confirmed weapons can be found here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons
winter parrot
@onyx knoll may I suggest base racial numbers with a small pool for personal preference and customization... Thanks
onyx knoll
The term "lance" has been used in fantasy games to represent spear-like weapons that are not necessarly used on mounts for a while now
polar pawn
that's weird
unreal zealot
or spear or polearm
polar pawn
could just call them pikes if they're longer spears
reef osprey
don't believe @umbral crater , he is a recruiter from EA Entertainment
don't tell him who made this
umbral crater
XD
reef osprey
@winter parrot there is racial differences to stats
primal solstice
there will be monster types element? i mean like lava bear takes dmg from ice spell or water its will increase the dmg ?
umbral crater
Im a 3D artist haha, i plan on using one of their concepts xD
crystal beacon
Is there a news letter sign up link?
onyx knoll
@winter parrot I recommend you make a post about it on the forums if you want the devs to see it
reef osprey
@primal solstice there will be differenct elemental resists and dmg types, yes
primal solstice
@primal solstice there will be differenct elemental resists and dmg types, yes
@reef osprey to monsters or for chars?
reef osprey
@primal solstice both,
it could even be that nodes, that are close to a volcano tend to have more resources/enemies that lend themselves towards Fire resist
So fighting against character from there, a lot of fire resist and little fire damage might help you
primal solstice
thx alot cool asf
little lance
what weapon does a bard use?
hushed girder
flute
chilly hedge
Can't all classes use all weapons and armor?
I thought that was mentioned a few times
onyx knoll
yes, weapons are not class locked
little lance
oh cool
hushed girder
it mostly instruments based but they can use staffs too
onyx knoll
That being said most archetypes will have passives that will make it so certain armor types are better for them, and a few might have skills they can only use with specific weapons (you can switch weapon around in combat tho), so Bards might have a few weapons that are more geared toward them. We don't know yet tho since nothing specific has been released on Bard skills
reef osprey
@hushed girder drums and lutes
little lance
it mostly instruments based but they can use staffs too
@hushed girder yeah i figured they were musical thats why i wasnt sure what the whole weapon situation was, assuming its mostly spells I guess
onyx knoll
@reef osprey Is that confirmed? I don't think those are weapons, more like they might have skills that "summon" instruments, but they aren't like, equipment. At least I think, I'd love to see a quote on that tho
reef osprey
@onyx knoll don't think its equipment, no
digital aspen
would be sick to see a bard playing drums and giving buffs on a boss
little lance
can prob do some interesting stuff with summoner bard in that case
dusty chasm
Anyone know when the preorder packs update?
full badger
Anyone know when the preorder packs update?
@dusty chasm new cosmetics on the 5th
dusty chasm
@full badger thanks
tidal trout
I think it would be cooler if abilities switched around depending on what you were wielding. Something like GW2
full badger
There are weapon-specific abilities @tidal trout
reef osprey
weapon skill changes depending on the weapon, class skills do not
like GW2 pretty much
like ESO i mean*
little lance
do you level weapon skills and that in turn grants weapon abilities or smth?
onyx knoll
The way I understand it is as you level you gain points you can spend on any skill. You can rank up your own archetype skills, or spend them on some weapon skills, that way you can create your own builds
Each skill can have up to 3 ranks
little lance
ohh so like mages could lets say completely neglect their weapon skill to be more powerful in their abilities
onyx knoll
so for exemple, you could rank up you bow skill like this;
The combat is still very much being worked on and nothing is final tho
little lance
ah I see thats really cool
im assuming these level points are separate from the ability augments you get past lvl 25 or whenever so theres even more path building/customization
I wonder if you can augment your weapon if thats the case
onyx knoll
I don't think so, pretty sure class augments are just for primary skills, but we don't have much detail on it atm so imight be wrong
little lance
im really excited to find out!
sour mauve
Hi i would like to pre order to support the game. But I am from the EU & the website has been saying for weeks cannot become a founder due to them having technical difficulties. Does anyone know when this will be available again thanks.
onyx knoll
Are you trying to purchase from the NA official website of from my.games?
sour mauve
From my.games.
onyx knoll
I believe there are some issues with the my.games platform atm, you can purchase from the NA shop and transfer everything over to EU once the servers open tho
digital aspen
wish i could buy already too x.x damnit lol
sour mauve
Ah okay thanks for that will do that then thanks for the reply:)
sharp wing
@leaden bolt we should see on the 4th i think they said in the stream
exotic berry
Will stream sniping be punishable
empty fjord
how would you suppose that would work? it's up to the streamers to not stream sensitive actions if they don't want to be sniped, or put a delay on the stream
sharp wing
Will stream sniping be punishable
@exotic berry no, obviously there's the corruption system but no you can't report someone for it.
empty fjord
corruption won't be a thing when dealing with caravans etc.
exotic berry
Thats beautiful. Streamsniping guild incoming
empty fjord
my tip is don't stream caravan runs if you want to be safe
it would be the same effect as having scouts out for caravans, will still take time for the rest of the guild to mobilize
reef osprey
@empty fjord 6Head play would be to stream a pre-recorded run in the opposite direction
lusty pivot
Is there a specific way to opt-in to the beta/alpha? I have an account made but I don't see any setting that allows me to apply for a spot/opt-in.
stuck phoenix
@lusty pivot you need to purchase a bundle with the Alpha or Beta keys in them
empty fjord
All alphas and betas are paid for with kickstarter, and preorder packs, Alpha 1 is no longer sold
crystal beacon
Is there a pugilist class in this game?
stuck phoenix
tf is that
empty fjord
vast crescent
No hand to hand weapons that we know of atm @crystal beacon
empty fjord
for all your class related questions
crisp holly
@lusty pivot https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
winter bane
@idle siren you said that the character creator you aim for is at par with BDO. How deep will the economy be when compared to EVE online?
dark jungle
deep
ruby swift
Economy is primarily player driven, so in that respect it will be similar to EVE
winter bane
How similar was eve compared to Archeage or BDO? They were player driven economies as well
glad sleet
Not really for archeage
glad sleet
Um, unless the discord is on fire and all mods are asleep I would say no?
wild marsh
He gets so many notifications a single ping probably won't be enough for him to even notice anything.
glad sleet
Man has over 3k discord messages, don’t add to it lol
crystal beacon
Ye reason i asked lol
I have a question regarding mounts
Do these skins from the packs apply to a mount that looks like in the pictures but with base colors for example?
wild marsh
Ask it here, that's what this chanel is for.
crystal beacon
Or is it a different mount that only looks like in the pictures with the skin
sharp wing
@crystal beacon the mount skins are based on species. Have to unlock the species to use the mount skin.
stiff vessel
Has there been any information on how mountains will function in the game? Will they be difficult terrain that requires resources and planning for players to cross? Will they function as impassable barriers? Or are they just going to be hills that our characters walk up with funny/glitched animations due to the angling?
crystal beacon
@sharp wing but like, for example the purple lion. Will there be a base lion and the skin makes it purple?
oak depot
@idle siren For Animal Husbandry - will cross-breeding be allowed or can you only breed pure species with each other? In other words, could I breed a Chimera (goat + lion + serpent)?
crystal beacon
can i breed rat with elefant to create elefant size rat ?
sharp wing
@crystal beacon yes. Thats what I mean by species.
oak depot
mounts and combat pets
wild marsh
@crystal beacon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry
sharp wing
^ yes blu.
oak depot
and livestock
crystal beacon
Whats that
crystal beacon
Oh uh
boreal dock
@idle siren How does a guild Fortress differ from a Guild Hall and/or Castle? (size/benefits) Where does a Fortress get built? Is it built on a Freehold plot?
unkempt gale
it makes no sense without the context, but it was decided earlier, its called Anibender
primal solstice
In the last stream they showed ram and rhino , is they pets like combat pets? Or mounts?
ruby swift
There are different kinds of mounts, mules, and combat pets. Which are which at this point is not known.
You can tame almost any mob with the exception of humanoids, some named bosses, and world bosses.
sharp wing
@boreal dock fortresses are also a target in guild wars
stiff vessel
Honestly with the amount of mount related questions, it'd be nice to see a Mount-Questions channel so that it's not just constantly clogging this general one.
boreal dock
Jahlon for president!
sharp wing
More channels means harder moderation sadly
primal holly
You can tame almost any mob with the exception of humanoids, some named bosses, and world bosses.
@ruby swift 😮
ruby swift
Oh, didnt even see mah tag team partner Jay Lawn in here. Will leave it to him. He has the knowledge bombs. No need to carpet the area.
primal solstice
In the last stream they showed ram and rhino , is they pets like combat pets? Or mounts?
@primal solstice ??
sharp wing
I dont think they specifically have said you can ride the rhino but id say its definitely open to possibilities. The ram was used for the caravan and the rhino is a seige weapon (in that category)
We don't know all the answers yet.
primal solstice
I dont think they specifically have said you can ride the rhino but id say its definitely open to possibilities. The ram was used for the caravan and the rhino is a seige weapon (in that category)
@sharp wing ok thx
digital aspen
i heard steven saying about the rhino carying siege weapons... don't know if it's actual a thing or was just an example of a cool possible feature
primal solstice
Guys i saw the last stream , dont you think the water colour is too blue?
Remind me of pubg water
😂
digital aspen
not finished yet i believe
sacred bloom
Will there be a system similar to transmog in wow
ebon star
Not all water is blue
sharp wing
@primal solstice Thats more of an opinion based thing instead of a factual answer that can be given. We try to keep it to just questions
@digital aspen The rhino has been around awhile so it'll be in the game but maybe only available for sieges as it isn't classified as a land mount.
ebon star
@sacred bloom there is no details on how the cosmetic system works just that cosmetics can only be on one character at a time
sacred bloom
ok thanks
primal solstice
Not all water is blue
@ebon star what u mean
digital aspen
@sharp wing would be sick that rhino as siege "weapon"
sharp wing
@sacred bloom https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gear_appearance I'm not familar with WoWs system but here you go
ebon star
They have other pools of liquids in game even some green ones that deal damage @primal solstice
winter parrot
Is there a shop offering that offers all skins but not extra playtime or early access?
digital aspen
Will we be able to buy playtime with gold or only $ ? not sure if it was answered yet
ebon star
Once you buy the packages the next month you can buy individual cosmetics @winter parrot
sharp wing
@digital aspen only money
winter parrot
Thanks for the replies...
digital aspen
Great!
slim dagger
what happened to Apocalypse
stable plover
@slim dagger APOC testing was taken down, Siege/Horde mode are expected sometime after A1 launch
slim dagger
dang, i really wanna play around in this game
ebon star
Fall is alpha1
ruby swift
sharp wing
"Significant" lol
slim dagger
I thought apoc was good
sharp wing
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend. Thats all I have to say on it back to the awesome questions!