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Will there even be a noticable difference in armor, spells etc. between them?
do monster sieges can accrue at any time? for example monday morning when most of the citizens are at work or something?
@full scroll 8 primary archetypes to start, then you select a secondary archetype later on and that will make your total class
@steady ocean what he means if improving your crafting skill will also improve the end result or whether it's static for each blueprint
razzle dazzle
@full scroll Yes, each person can augment spells and such in different ways depending on their secondary archetype
@twilit dune @sinful echo Yes, improving your skill can result in better stats
Okay, well is there a list of them so I can like theorycraft what I would be interested in?
and does that scale endlessly or does it have a fixed limit?
@full scroll https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Archetypes But not all info has been released regarding their skills
if you search ashes of creation classes on google it shows its wiki with all of them @full scroll
@full scroll https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
Thanks
@sinful echo There is a skill point system in place, so it will be limited by how many points you allocate to your profession
hello?
@upper pine Yes, monster events can probably happen at any time as these are in game events that can be random
will there be mounted combat?
@sinful echo There is also still alot of the crafting system still in development right now. So our knowledge on it is still very basic, however it has been said that crafting systems will be complex though not overly complicated.
will you be able to tame the monsters?
@cunning kernel using animal taming gathering profession yes
I kinda hoped that this game would invest into "Dynamic Crafting" tbh
thanks!
is there any thought or probability of servers in south america?
tired of 150+ping
@bitter tendon There have been talks but nothing confirmed
@cunning kernel also, there is the animal husbandry processing profession where you can breed creatures to create new cross-breeds
good to know its at least being talked about tho, thanks mate
yeah ik im going to master processing
@olive kraken Your mounts will have abilities, but currently you can't fight while mounted
i love that profession
@steady ocean thanksalot
How many languages does Steven know?
@bitter tendon Last I heard is that server locations will depend on demand in the area so you need to get the hype up in your area
a total out of context random silly question. Were there ever or will there be ever a discussion about porting to VR one day?
It very well my be a dynamic crafting system once it has been completed, its just still very early @sinful echo
ye, im trying for it, already got a bunch of friends hyped now its just matter of getting big youtube/streamers to start talking about it @hollow plume
So I looked through the AMA but still haven't been able to figure out how many summons I can have out at any given time as a necromancer
I believe it depends on a few factors
I would highly suggest reading this wiki page it should answer your question.
Okay!
Heyy
@crystal beacon Nothing, as large guilds can already do this. Just don't go their science node if you don't want to do be a part of that
I'm watching the stream right now, does anyone know when the game will be released?
@crystal beacon There are 3 other node types that do not rely on elections
@sinful echo https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Crafting if you haven't looked through the wiki yet you might find some more answers here.
is there anyway to play the game right now?
and can someone explain what the "nodes" are?
@crystal beacon I believe the way they are dealing with that is the different types of ways you can become a mayor depending on the type of node for example in a merchantile node you can bid your way into being the mayor other nodes do it differently depending on the type
1st alpha going to be end of this year / fall iirc
send codes
@primal holly not for several years, but there will be testing phase releases throughout
Hey is there any word on a release?
Nodes are zones of influence linked to a potential city
@primal holly https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes
@crystal beacon Alpha release in the fall
Ok thanks
Are those modules they just showed mounts or not?
There are 0-6 levels of node stages, the end result being a metropolis
Hi, Im a lil late to the party as iv been away from pc gaming for a few years. Finally decided to get back to it and found out about this mmo thanks to asmongold. So i wanted to check if i could support it but sadly the kickstarter is closed. I checked the website and saw the starter packs. But is there a way to support the game and get the kickstarter rewards?
@round radish Unfortunately no
@regal tulip Just random mobs
Purchasing third party packages are against ToS, the best way to support is purchasing a pack directly from them
On their current store
@regal tulip Which modules?
@round radish Unfortunately no
@woeful zephyr thanx
@craggy panther yeah i read that but it's so vague
Please keep this channel to Questions and Answers only. If youβre passionate about further discussion feel free to move to the lovely discussion channels #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion Thank you. 
Of course, PM me if you have any questions
@steady ocean They showed some mobs animations on stream just now
How will the daytime and nighttime cycle be? Will it be an World clock that shifts daytime and night time or it will be nighttime when its night time on the servers irl time? abit sad if u only can play at night and u will only see the world as "night" . Would be nice if u play 4 hours a day the daytime and nightime cycle will be like 4 - 6 times β€οΈ
It'll be an in game cycle
@errant compass 15 mins = roughly 1 hour in game, day/night cycle
@errant compass there will be a cycling in world time
I wonder if node cities can be underground. Imagine a dwarven style underground city π
There will underrealm nodes
Does glider mounts fall under the same restrictions as flying mounts?
@errant compass the spiders are mobs
No they are tier 2
Glider mounts are mounts anyone can have
@round radish gliding mounts are a tier 2 mount and will be much more common
Is there any useful information on how its looking for EU ? We cant buy packs for quite some time now and overall is there hardly any information from mycom @idle siren
EU players can always purchase from the ashesofcreation store and transfer it to any region prior to launch π
@round radish gliding mounts are a tier 2 mount and will be much more common
@slow sky will they have time limits/lifespan?
Will it be a challenge to kill a normal trashmob, like it has more health and take maybe 15- 30 sec to kill or u can 1- 3 shot it?
no
@thorny warren https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
Will have update on EU in the near future as well
@round radish
It won't be hack and slash
Hi Steven
do they have any ideas of the server locations they will provide? im from brasil, wonder if there will be servers herer
Mobs will take a decent amt of time to kill
Even tho EU is being published by another publisher?
@regal tulip NA EU AND SEA OR OCE
Correct @thorny warren
You will most likely have to play on NA servers
anyway to get alpha 1 π
Currently not yet
@regal tulip You can read more on the current regions set for launch here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions
There is any roadmap for the development?
Alright, thanks a lot. Lowkey hoped i still could get the old pack through EU since its still up on that store 
@random moat Not at this time.
As Steven said in the stream it's potential they will bring it back
there's a potential*
@median parcel Not a physical roadmap yet
Hello i was wondering when we will be able to see some more in-depth character creation? And more info about Tulnar race?
More in depth character creation will probably be present A2 - Beta
@crystal beacon There will be more in the future I'm sure
what happens if you have multiple multiboxers trying to rig elections for a certain person?
It is real early on that they don't intend on prioritization so early
@hidden crane β
@steady ocean Could they still add an south america server? π
@final fractal You can't multibox
@final fractal It'll take a lot of multi boxing in order for that to happen
@regal tulip The possibility is being discussed, it depends on the demand in those regions
@regal tulip They have not mentioned making a SA server
Just wanted to make sure :) thank you for answering!
is registering just making an account?
Of course!
ahh thank you for answering!
Tourist Visa in the states or Canada when svs open, not playing with 200ms from SA lol
Yes Soi Bean
alright done, ty
Please PM me if you have any questions as well
@final fractal multibox has nothing to do with trying to rig elections or getting extra freeholds, that is simply multiple accounts which would not be stopped even if multiboxing was. multiboxing is controlling those accounts simultaneously.
Please remember all discussions should be in #aoc-discussion Lets keep this channel to specific questions
people would still need to be citizens to vote, so probably streamers will have their own servers and will own metropolis and cities
Where can i leave suggestions on this Discord ? π
@idle siren Will there be and Overlord class makeup like L2 had? Id like to go back to my old ways.
@trail cedar the problem isnt ms, is more language barrier. not everyone in SA speaks english..
It could be possible that the sub price gets lowered in the future? (being like the first concern in Latam)
You can try the official forums https://forums.ashesofcreation.com or the reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/ @errant compass
@vocal sun https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
Hello all! Has the team discussed starting areas for each race? Maybe something that encourages certain areas or nodes to be more, for example, dwarf-predominant? Or are we all starting in the same place and branching out?
@regal tulip true. I guess I was thinking about myself. They'll have to live with people speaking spanish around if they decided to have server hosted there.
i missed a bit at the end of the stream, did they say that emails were sent out to confirm alpha one?
@raven palm Yes, each race will have a starting area. Although, you can choose not to start at your character's racial starting area and go to a different one
@raven palm There are multiple speculations of starting zones but there is no official location placements
@woeful zephyr If i get the $375 and then they bring back A1 package can you upgrade do you know?
@dusk nova yes, they said make sure to check your e-mails/spam
You will be able to reference certain races will be in their stereotypical zones
@raven palm https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Starting_areas
@steady ocean Ive looked at it, it doesnt show specifically what Im looking for, but ty.
hmm well ive they already sent it out i've not gotten anything =3
I.E. Vaelune are in the sandy dune area, and dunir will be in the mountains
@random moat Yes
@trail cedar and i guess brasilians and spanish speakers would have to create there own guilds so they can comunicate..
You will be able to upgrade as he said on stream
TY π
Are people playing the game right now? Is it already in one of the alphas? I see there is a guild recruitment chat
@dusk nova I would reach out on the forums, and i'm sure you'll get some help
@random moat they said upgrading packages is possible
Currently people are not playing
Sorry i missed the stream and only caught the last few mins sadly π¦
The server is not being tested
@random moat No worries! You can always catch it on YT
@crystal beacon If people vote for you
Yeah I am watching the vod right now π
@old arch The game is in pre-alpha, with very limited testing for some of the earliest backers and devs. Alpha 1 will be released "late fall"
Anything Non - NDA as far as we know is the Fall testing for A1
@crystal beacon There can be multiple scientific nodes, please take further discussion of streamer benefits to #aoc-discussion
at the end of the stream didnt they say august?
Currently Leader of Men and PI will have sessions as they said and creative director letter
August for Leader of Men and PI
I dont know if that was a slip up or what but im pretty positive they said august for alpha
Those are the 1k and 2.5 kickstarter package
No longer accessible
@old arch You are correct read above
Now my only question will be how good summoners will be in PvP and raids
We're uncertain
Yeah
I just gotta hope that this game doesn't take the same route with summoners most games do where they don't tend to be good in either
I think things like that are best experienced 1sthand even tho some info prior would help with decisions
Probably someone alrdy asked this but : Will they showcase next "package" art before the 5th so ppl can choose if they go swamp or the next one?
Yeah like what I'm wondering is just how strong do these summons are gonna get
@ancient charm You can ask in #aoc-discussion what others think on what the summoner will be. May be interesting
@sharp hare Yes most likely a day prior
I heard something in today's stream about being able to open stores/shops anywhere in the world. Does that mean certain building types dont have to be within a node (or certain radius of a node)?
A day or 2 days prior
Any idea how the enchanter archetype will work? I see it's a summoner class and that makes me feel like it's gonna be mainly buffing ur summons and I was thinking of smth more like buff team debuff enemy.
Thank you!
In the stream it was said your gear is made of 8 pieces if I heard right. And that you can customize those individually with, for example, the gauntlet we saw.
My question is: does that mean I could practically wear two different gloves, not just uh... Glamour wise but let's say, wear a plate glove on my right and a leather on my left hand?
@raven palm Yes, you can have a player shop that you can buy a certificate to set up in your freehold https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Personal_shops
as far as I know there is as of now very little information on the classes and archetypes :/ @gritty sequoia
@velvet aspen I get that. It's just that at least in my head enchanter would be smth more like sorc/bard-cleric and I see it as summoner/bard and it rly makes me curious.
@jagged rapids i want to say yes it may not be as detailed as different material on each hand but you could wear leather boots and plate gauntlets
Sorry I didnt really understand, if a person registers in the game before September, what will he get?
@raven palm You can place them anywhere in the zone of influence near an economic node that has become a metropolis
@gritty sequoia You can ask in #aoc-discussion what others think the enchanter will be
I think cleric and bard would be the better fit for that
@gritty sequoia
@primal holly You can get a statue for your personal house
I've just watched several videos about the game and have a few questions.
The way the caravan moves on flat and "rocky" surfaces - looks like the caravan has no "weight". Some wheels spin others don't - that's great, but overall looks strange. Is this a UE problem or is it just NIY? Also I feel like this absence of weight can be seen in various places and the world feels plastic because of that.
Another thing that bothers me: raptors in the "gnome" dungeon (with the dragon in the end). How final this low level dungeon is? Will this be changed and will dungeons have mobs that correspond to the dungeons setting?
@celest moat It's a "the game is in development" problem. They will work out the physics in time
Nothing is final at this stage, we are still in Pre-alpha
Nice @steady ocean thx for answering!
@celest moat It's a "the game is in development" problem. They will work out the physics in time
@steady ocean that's a relief, thanks.
@crystal beacon We only know that they are "rare drops" and buyable in the cosmetic store. They will not be tradeable
is there something like a "test server" and if yes, how can we participate?
Everything that you see should be taken with a grain or two of salt. I think the answer to any "Why does this look/behave this way" will be "The game is alpha"
i just hope they add realistic hit boxes, so the creatures dont hit you from 5 feet away
So, are they gonna put the livestream on the ashes of creation YouTube channel for us to look at as well? Iβm in the middle of a 12 hour shift and canβt actually watch the stream.
Or pre-alpha.
@primal holly The next test phase is Alpha 2, and you can purchase access via the Intrepid studio website store https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
hello everyone, where can we find information on the packs (since they change each month, right?) I heard during the stream that new packs are announced a while before they actually come out but i can't find where to look for them π
I think they always put it on youtube but theres the VOD aswell @lapis sonnet
yupyup @lapis sonnet we get it uploaded to YouTube and post here and on social once it's ready for you to watch!
Next test phase is alpha 1
(just takes a bit to export π )
You can find the packs on the store they linked above
I was thinking alpha 1 is next
they didnt do it yet
End of Fall = Alpha 1
This link should hopefully clarify where we're at!
Ty kindly for all that replied to that and I look forward to watching it on a few hours.
In the VOD she stated that the next test phase will be in august
Does anyone have any idea of how doubling down on the same archetype will affect the skills?
For Leader of Men and PI only
The next accessable phase for those without access already is alpha phase 2 π
@brisk tulip It empowers your primary skills to be stronger
Stress Test is in August
What is gained from having both your primary and secondary archetype being the same?
@brisk tulip better skills i guess
They can augment your skills/spells to help the secondary class
So no augments?
For example if I'm an archer mage, I could light the end of my arrow with fire
as a "technical augment"
@brisk tulip Your skills will change based off of your second archetype, even if it's the same as your first one. So it'll just make them more unique I'm pretty sure.
They give examples here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Augments
Any information about RTX? On todays stream the dungeons lighting was "showcased" but I didnt hear anything about ray tracing, maybe missed something. Ray tracing for dungeons or closed areas would be great, since the devs put so much heart in environment design.
shouldnt cleric clerics be the best healers then?
Cleric will have better heal with a cleric augment
Yes Stamania
@gleaming stream that is debateable, which you can do so here #aoc-discussion
Theoretically the best depending on the situation
Any word on if gear made from monster materials being a thing? Like for example using the creatures from the live stream like a bear pelt robe, or some kind of string to make clothing from the spider creatures
@wild marsh more unique and sometimes changing them significantly... like Dash + Blink becoming a teleport dash and removing the chance for you to be interrupted/stun during our dash
@round tangle Most likely you will be able to get drops of leather/fur etc. or drops from mobs/bosses
@round tangle Yes, crafted gear will be dependent on materials gained from killing npcs/dungeon bosses/ raid bosses among other gatherables
Beta will probably be 2022
Either mid to early 2022
As a speculation
No
They will most likely do name reservation in Alpha 1
Not currently, expected for during Alpha 1. Priority will go to Kickstarter backers > Summer backers > pre-order backers
I would guess Beta for Winter Holiday at end of 2021 (assuming Alpha 1 and 2 don't find glaring issues)
Alpha 1 is expected to be long, which I believe will take up til mid 2021
And Alpha 2 will go on from there
Persistent testing
No
Imo, A1 and A2 will be long af. I'm expecting Beta 1 and 2 to be really fucking quick, especially beta 2.
@oak depot Agreed, such as necromancer will change your summons to undead only from what I've gathered. So they can be minor to sever which is always nice. I'm speculating that having two of the same will make them more powerful than having a secondary in most cases though.
Nothing set in stone as far as names/servers
I understand the tagging system will decide who gets loot, but what about xp/quest objective if I help (tag or heal) a non party, would I get xp or quest completion objetives?
Cool, ty.
Along with quest completion
I understand the tagging system will decide who gets loot, but what about xp/quest objective if I help (tag or heal) a non party, would I get xp or quest completion objetives?
@glacial burrow They actually just discussed this π If your party does 40% of damage to a monster it will split 40% of the exp to your team. This means if you're a healer you'll still get the exp as your team earned the exp for you.
@dark jungle Probably a good point to add to the wiki
I'm interested in the 75$ pre-order pack, but I am unsure of a few things.
- Will that sub time start from official launch, or from the time I get access to beta 2?
- Will all progress made in beta 2 be gone when it goes officially live?
Official launch, everything is wiped on launch
@wild marsh makes sense, excellent, thanks.
ty
You will get beta 2
so eu publisher change is possible?
@full scroll there will be a full wipe for official launch
sorry if this is a dumb question but cant Intrepid studios self publish the game for EU region too?
@full scroll Sub time from the packs starts after actual launch. Characters/server development gets wiped for actual launch.
Anyone have the full res picture of the races they showed before the stream?
I'm interested in the 75$ pre-order pack, but I am unsure of a few things.
- Will that sub time start from official launch, or from the time I get access to beta 2?
- Will all progress made in beta 2 be gone when it goes officially live?
@full scroll No Alpha/Beta will take your time. It will start from actual launch
Yup!
@pine wind This is what we have currently https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races
They are using my.com
@woeful zephyr Wasn't there an update coming up on this? Or did I understand this wrong?
Hello. I been following you all for a bit now and I love how the game is coming along but from what I have seen it is looking like smaller guilds and solo players like me and my small group of role playing friends, will never have a shot at a flying mount.... and I love role playing a dragon Rider and Flying on the back of a Dragon. How are you going to make it fair to us smaller group that are just playing to role play not having a way to have or evern get Flying mounts will be very disappointing to us. Thanks for all your amazing work on this game.
They did say they were gonna come with an update on it but 
Note, some KS packages grant 2-day and 1-day early start on live launch, but during that time all nodes are disabled so no nodes will be developed. Same for claiming player housing.
@crystal beacon Intrepid studios reserves all creative decision making
@crystal beacon Smaller guilds can get balance buffs in order to counter larger guilds
ah i see i was looking for this one
But let's be realistic
@crystal beacon publisher has no access to adding things to the store
Here's TheLazyPeon's video on the topic
You with 15 people against 200 members in a guild will be unlikely to get a chance at a castle anyway
That's why your best bet is an alliance of a sort
Did Intrepid sell a pack in the kickstarter that gave people an early head start in the game?
@crystal beacon There are several types of nodes that are not tied to an election process, so you and your friends could try to become the leader in one of those types of nodes
2 - 3 days head start
@queen snow The headstart takes place on dedicated headstart servers, NA,EU,OCE each get 1 headstart server
no matter how good game is if servers are trash or there security/cheating problems
sometimes you just need to accept that not everyone can have everything, thats what makes things valuable in an MMO
^
That's why I hope this game will be good, people will depend on other people
for those interested in buying pack living in the EU, it doesn't matter if you buy it on the official page of the game. There will be no region locks π
I am aware of where to find the packs, but I was asking about new packs, where to find information on that? Or is this not a thing and did I misunderstood this on the stream?
They will send out an announcement for new packs
it brings it back to the 'good old days' in mmos were if you put in the time and were super lucky and you got that rare item from a world boss... you were famous on the server lol
New pack should be coming on the 5th of August
gotcha, will keep an eye out for that then, thanks!
will character lvl impact droprate. Say im high lvl will farm at a low lvl area
The next pack is available on Aug 5th, that is all we know @rich kraken
Yup!
@sweet void Just the fact that you can kill the low lvl npcs faster
@crystal beacon That is correct, and I doubt an NA streamer would do that. Please keep the channel to specific questions, discussion for #aoc-discussion
How about exp when killing higher lvl enemies?
If I can manage to kill a mob 5 levels above me will I get rewarded with more exp or do I get the "the more lvls an enemy is above you, the less exp you get" penalty?
@jagged rapids I'm not sure if that has been clariifed yet
Is there a place i can read up on how XP debt and item loss on death is defined?
@wraith fractal https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_death
is there anywhere we can make suggestions?
@jagged rapids I think you get that mobs exp. I remember Steven saying something about it a while ago but can't remember where it is.
Will it be SEA server?
@thin spear Yes
Is there a way to get into Alpha 1 at this point
@final oxide You can try the official forums https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/ or the AoC reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/
@scarlet flower Not currently, but the devs will let us know if an option becomes available
If I preorder bundle will I be able to upgrade bundle later?
@jagged rapids Being that they are going for a risk vs reward philosophy going up against i higher level creature and winning would yield a proportionate reward for its level. it was talked about in a stream a while back if i remember correctly
@thin spear You will be able to yes. But you will not get the cosmetics if that pre-order cosmetic theme changes. You will only get the new cosmetic theme
it was talked about in the AMA briefly
I just upgraded to the alpha 2 version for an extra $100 on top of the $50 kickstarter so I'd say yes @thin spear
About the alpha 1 so is it only the Leader of men packs and above ?
Yes, outside of invitations devs have sent out to specific people
And i guess to that once they have stress tested will ad more later
Kick starter braver of world pack holder have access to alpha one but its not the one thats coming up @fierce sand
^ what i was mainly asking for lol
so will be like the second phase of alpha 1 then / somthing like that
Yes
cool
Any information on Ray Tracing and DLSS2.0? Some "limited" Ray Tracing would be cool, e.g. for the dungeons or some religious buildings etc.
@fierce sand "The initial tests in May with our Phoenix Initiative and above backers will be conducted during single day sessions, which over the course of several months will eventually evolve into weekend testing periods as the Alpha One game client becomes more stable. Over the summer, as we expand the participating Alpha One testers to include Bravers and above, they too will start off with weekend experiences that will test the patience of our players. As we get closer to Fall of this year, we aim to invite all Alpha One players to participate in weeklong testing sessions and push the limits of our Alpha One experience. As we approach these testing periods, we will be updating you with schedules and instructions." β Steven Sharif
Hope that clarifies
@stable plover I upgraded to LoM today, i'm not too late am i?
@celest moat I do not believe so, but you can ask on the official forum https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
@steady ocean ty
@solemn snow For anyone that's recently upgraded to LoM, you need to fill out a support ticket.
not sure, I upgraded a week ago and am still currently waiting on ticket&email
are there any videos or wiki that describe the crafting process better? my main focus on the game
Thanks, what's the turnaround on a support ticket these days?
@wintry jasper https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Crafting
I have the voyager plus package should I have access to the game right now?
No @spark shell You'll get access once alpha 2 testing begins
Heard, Thank you
@final oxide Forums are the best place for suggestions or feedback.
@solemn snow longer than usual, the community grew by about 25% in the last week, so the system is experiencing a high volume π
The CS people are also processing the testing NDAs so they have that added load.
About my .com publishing Ashes, US will be unaffected by this right?
Correct
just EU if im not mistaken
sick, they are wack as hell and the less interaction with them the better
EU and the Russians
What alpha are we in now?
pre-alpha
from what i understand we will be able to change our secondary class if we don't like it is that correct?
@wintry jasper Yes
so who will be in the headstart servers? I cant imagine enough people bought the headstart package to fill a headstart server. Is it expected that non headstart players will join that server after the 3 day headstart? Who would opt to do that?
will there be any way to experiment with them other then making one and leveling them up?
like max lvl template in alpha or beta
quick question, in todays stream they showed harvesting and in the process the tree was cut down, does that mean the game will have destructible environment and if so how will that effect the environment, I'm thinking of how in Fortnite players can cut down a whole forest, but how will that work in an mmorpg
It is a max 48 hour headstart and people will join them because they wont turn on more servers till those are full.
Most people wont even notice.
Star wars the old republic had head start , and the people that bout the ce got just that a head start , so the ones that didn't were lvl 1 and the ones that id were like 45 or so if i remember , nut this game the leveling exp is way slower
@copper pecan Only certain trees can be cut down, not really a destructible.
@ruby swift thank you, do the trees have are spawn timer once they are cut down?
im sure it would spawn after a little bit at another spot
The small resources are meant to move around as an anti-pathing, botting mechanic.
like other gatherable nodes ie WoW or FF14 as reference
they should upload it to youtube if its not on the twitch channel
@ruby swift that sounds very exciting thank you
it is on Twitch as a VOD right now. It takes time for it to go to Youtube
especially if a video is 4k but i dont think this one will be
It wasnt
My last question is about Apocalypse will it come back in the future, I thought it was extremely fun
oh will hopefully in the future maybe they can bring it back
Are system requirements for the game known?
other Unreal 4 games could be used as a comparison
They said that any game that uses UE4 should give you a benchmark. If you can run another UE4 game, you will be able to run Ashes.
@scarlet flower you can take a look at the recommended requirements for alpha testers and get an idea of what may be required, subject to change https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha_testing_system_requirements
Oh good. TSG is back. I can go to bed. Nite.
Night buddo
Correct, unless you purchased a kickstarter/summer backer pack already, which you can upgrade those packs.
same didnt know about it until asmogold reacted to lazy peons video
"How about a leader of friends?" -Gimli voice @crystal beacon
So there are 8 different variations of each spell ? with the augmented stuff and the rank 1 to rank 3 ?
i'm new here and just curious is there anywhere here to request beta access to the game? i would love to start playing/streaming it as soon as possible.
well he still got me here
@amber snow You can purchase alpha 2/beta access via the intrepid store https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
Do remember that alpha 2 access won't be available for some time, they are doing slow releases for alpha 1 currently
yep thats fine i'm getting a new pc built and it wont be ready for a couple months so i'm in no rush
@crystal beacon Please take discussions to #aoc-discussion
@crystal beacon you have just been toxic on most of what i have seen you type , just an observation
back to classes , is there going to be a max lvl template or something in teh alpha or beta we can test vs having to lvl 8 toons and test each sub class ?
Hello guys can someone tell me if AOC Will be free to play
$15 sub no box cost
Aha thank you
micro trans all seem to be purly cosmetic
ye also is it playable in europe?
It is @drowsy cloak There will be EU servers
but currently it cant be played in eu correct
@wintry jasper No, there will be level caps during Alpha/Beta testing. However, during alpha two we will be able to test out both primary and secondary archetypes. You can create multiple characters to test the different combinations
@drowsy cloak No, the game is not available to the open public, just those that have purchased Alpha testing rights
sweet thanks TSG
i still think the leveling si gonna be hard in AOC
It very well could be! Feel free to ask in #aoc-discussion and see what the community thinks @drowsy cloak π
@crystal beacon I'm sure there's more to it than that. Toxicity is often not about WHAT you say, but HOW you say it.
I dont want to be "that guy" but is there a mod on , this wyrider is no spamming me in private and having a melt down over asmongold
*now
You should be able to block him @wintry jasper if you think it is necessary. @crystal beacon @crystal beacon Please keep it to specific questions please, discussion should be in #aoc-discussion
oh sorry lol.
If you have an issue, message a mod
I was just switching through the tabs
WyriderToday at 3:48 PM
I've seen it happen recently with WoW classic you numbskull... w/e stay being an ignorant fanboy
Thats you version of left it at that?
I saw that message and I answered it.
Is there a transcript or a vod on YouTube for the latest ashes stream?
ill just block
@paper warren There vod should be uploaded to youtube today, it just depends on how fast the rendering takes. Just keep checking back in, or you can watch the vod on twitch as well https://www.twitch.tv/videos/696369290
Twitch VoDs are aids to watch on mobile
@stable plover You may need to step in
stop both just stop...this is a question channel not a debate so please ask the question and leave
Ban the asmon hater 
@steady ocean with the crafting and the artisan tree does that mean if i pick blacksmithing is that what i master or does it go further like mast of 2h swords?
@wintry jasper blacksmithing as far as we know is for crafting tools. Weapon and armorsmithing will be for weapon/armor specifically. We don't yet know how the skill point tree will look for those
@plucky pawn hey a question is it possible that on the german Intrepid Shop webside the pay method paypal dosnΒ΄t work? i canΒ΄t upgrade my access key and there standst that paypal paying method is not avaiable.
I watched asmon on the side when wow classic released, and I don't think his effect on the server was nearly as profound as the doomsayers were claiming
oh yeah sorry , meant weaponsmithing
If anything you'd actively have to seek him out in the world to notice there was a streamer playing
It could mean that @wintry jasper, but it's hard to tell without seeing the progression path for the various artisan professions
do we know how the artisan system will work , it says you can still use all the others just at a lower level and you can only master one
go you
There were definitely times during phase 2 when Olympus managed to crash the server attempting 300 man PvP battles lol
Small indie company btw
was the alpha date announced this stream?
@dreamy temple only that leaders of men pack holders will soon be able to start helping with testing
new question i am in the shop to preorder game and under the Expeditionary it says access to phase 1 alpha but i was under the impression this was already full. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
@paper warren did they really crash the server or just lag the local area
i remember the raid in barrens
Pretty sure it crashed the server lol
Tried to do big PvP battles in blasted lands with hundreds of people and the server just shat itself
@amber snow Expeditionary only includes Beta 1 and Beta 2 access
@twilit dune @paper warren please take discussions to #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion
What do I have to buy to get access as son as possible
The most expensive package
ok thank you, i thought i had heard somewhere that phase 1 was already full. i just didn't want to order it and find out i only get phase 2.
@crystal beacon You would need to buy the $250 voyager pack https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop This would give you future access to alpha 2
And when will I be able to play now ?
alpha 2 has no release date just yet, but the community is speculating mid 2021
@covert rampart The emberstorm dragon was a a unique skin only obtainable by reaching level 7 in apoc during the time that it was up. whether it will be obtainable again is unknown
not able to buy a pack to play now being it is currently phoenix initiative will be progressing down in the next few months by tiers
Ok cool
They are not unless you previously ordered a kickstarter/summer backer pack, just the pre-order packs currently in the store are able to be purchased now
Yes the wiki would be the best place to get an indepth answer of what to expect
There will be naval pvp, naval pve (raids), and transport of goods from one continent to the other via caravans as far as I've seen
has anything been said about balancing ideas between tab-target vs action combat. like if a ranger auto attack with tab-targeting vs a ranger having a chance to miss shots with action combat? im new to the AoC scene so might be a dumb question
From what i understand they are making the game very group based for pvp
@winged swan Action skills that would result in a headshot would be akin to get a crit damage wise, so they are taking it into account
ahh i see. so more risk vs reward.. i like it
Is there a pack current to have access now? if not when is alpha 2 planned?
No there isnt. we know a1 is gonna be out by fall 2020, no other release dates @lime sorrel
sweet ty
atm - no. Unless you have a ks package
@exotic night This was discussed on the livestream today, so maybe it will give you hope in regards to the AH system.
what's the process of changing your characters citizenship from one metropolis to another like?
Yeah I wonder if they realize 10k is managable and they want more, would they be okay with another 10k
How many months are x preorder skins rotation?
Play Warhammer AoS (death) did see some old skins really like π€£
But once they're gone, they're gone
You dont need ks or alpha
you just need a package
If you have a $375 pack you can buy all future cosmetics. The lower the tier of pack you buy, the less cosmetics you can buy. For example, the $75 pack can only buy the Accessory cosmetics every month.
When you buy the $375 pack, how much are the additional cosmetics?
Fantastic, thanks bud.
real question tho...is this game based on Satisfy from the novel Overgeared?
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/39249/anyone-reads-the-legendary-moonlight-sculptor-or-overgeared-and-thinks-of-this-game
You arent the first to make that comparison!
i thought so xD
Tnx for the preorder skins info, was not 100% sure, my english is not that good π
many mmorpg's have spider-queen bosses. Is there a chance we can have a spider king alongside the spider queen? and then the spider queen eats the spider kings head :3
@past pewter Possibly, you should post your suggestion to the official forum or the reddit thread and see if it gains traction
Can we expect the level of FIDELITY for all animals in game as we saw in todays stream, mainly in regards to such subtle animation details?
bc damn.
Q: Has there been any official info from the devs on if PvP leveling will be a thing?
amazing
Depending on your game settings, probably better than what we saw as those models are still in development @junior pagoda
Will you up upgrade to unreal engine 5 ?
bigger number
Some graphical improvements from what I've heard. You can ask others that may be more knowledgeable in #general-discussion
??
The devs have stated they plan to continue with UR4 @burnt nymph
Unlikely - since upgrading is a pain in the butt
Ok ππ»
Will there be a designated button for blocking?
Unlikely - blocking and dodging was included in APoC and what they found out is that it wasnt used very much. Atm idea is to tie them as skills to respective classes
ok
@burnt nymph The devs might eventually upgrade to UE5, but they don't even have access to it yet to see how practical the upgrade will or won't be.
@barren badger Blocking/dodging skills seem like they'll be part of class kits as opposed to something everyone just gets
Ue5 is backwards compatible with ue4 projects FYI
To complete Greypelt answer about UE5, I think the devs would also have to consider the toll it would have on minimum spec to run the game ; especially if it is done after or close to launch
are there going to be OCE servers?
yes, at launch
HELL YEAH
they haven't finalized the exact location for those yet tho
well i usually get 220 ping to most US servers so anything would be better than that hah
Is it allowed posting screenshots to other games if it's related to question?
@turbid falcon It's allowed, just make sure it's actually a question answer in this channel - for example you could explain something about naval combat with a SS from another game
ok, ty. so, related to particle effects. will there be a way to tone down particle effects. i have a big issues with some games that do not have this option when there is great number of players and screen looks like this.
Ahh good 'ol GW2....... The spell effects are far from finalised but considering they plan to make 250 v 250 combat events, I don't think they will be nowhere near as bad as this
If a secondary skill is picked and after a period of time your secondary class levels up and then you decide to change it. Will your experience go the the current secondary class or it starts from level zero
That's a loss. You would level up to average or middle if you wanna change your class
@indigo oasis tnx for answer
@twilit dune I do miss the time when hammer swing was just hammer swinging and not a ton of flashy effects.
Would love to see that here.
yeah tbf the flashing effects are less cool when you are in a big group and everybody is throwing flasy effects around. you can't see what is going on anymore and that doesn't help with survival :p
Although I don't think it would happen a lot, are there any systems in place for Mayors who quit playing or decide not to use any of the tax money to "better" their node with quests/NPC defense? Would the node still add additional quests over a period of inactivity?
possible lore ama in the future?
@indigo oasis We don't have a lot of info on how respec will work for secondary archetypes. I'm fairly sure you won't be leveling them like you would your primary, and they don't give you new skills as you level, only points you can spend in your primary archetype's skills. It's unclear at this point if you'll need to re-earn those points, or if the quest that you need to do to change your secondary will give them to you so you can respend them all right away
@sharp kindle There is currently no way to kick a mayor from office, however they are only in office for at most a month, and it's not like inactivity will make a node implode π
@onyx knoll thanks for the clarification
@past pewter Probably not, if I remember right Steven has mentioned that he doesn't want too much of the lore revealed so that players can discover as much of it as possible while exploring/questing. We'll know the basic but anything more will be up to people to discover in game!
What happens if a mayor set taxes at %100 and doesnt do anything with the money ? π€
well from what I know, we don't know
π€
but prbly not possible
What happens if a mayor set taxes at %100 and doesnt do anything with the money ? π€
@steady jasper Then next mayor will be able to do a lot of things ^^
@steady jasper Unclear if that will even be possible, the max could be lower, but then it would just sit in the city coffer and wait for the next mayor I believe. Mayors cannot remove that gold for themselves
The only issue I see is that if a guild somehow gets a Mayor elected in a node they want to seize for their own, and that mayor purposely doesn't spend any money on defenses or quests. This could be easily done in Economic nodes right? Since the barrier to entry is just gold.
i guess thats where siege comes in handy ? to remove that guild ?
ya, slamdunk em into oblivion, hehehehehe
plus im sure there will be lots of economics guilds not just one and others will try to siege to kick them out
is it possible that a single guild will be able to rule over every node?
hhm
depends of population i guess
if they game stays healthy that means lots of players equals lots of guild = more siege
^
Yeah it may not be an issue.. Just trying to think of loopholes in the system so they can be patched.
Or mitigated as much as possible I guess
I may have missed it in the livestream, but they give a timeline for the five class-info pages they mentioned? I thought they said five would be on the alpha and they would have info sheets for all of them.
@dreamy temple No, Castle nodes can only be led by a guild leader and there are 5 of those, so one guild cannot control more then one castle. Then, the regular nodes are all controlled by individuals, so technically it could maybe be possible for all the individuals in office at a given time to be in the same guild, but that sounds incredibly unlikely
are there gonna be more secrets than just hidden rooms in dungeons, like a whole hidden dungeon or raid?
then are there gonna be more abillities for discovering secrets for other classes? cuz it'd kinda suk if only rouge can discover secrets
@jolly estuary There will be secrets scattered around the world, like chests and jumping puzzles etc, as for the dungeons, their entrances will not be marked on the map and they will spawn differently on each servers based on how the nodes evolve so you'll need to find those entrances through exploration
Rogue...
quick question the game packages we can buy are limited to the US?
no
wait so did anyone respond to @turbid falcon his question about flashy lights/effects yet? quite curious to know about this π
you have to pay Vat tho @shadow cedar
You will be able to transfer them to your server of choice later @shadow cedar but at the moment they are technically only available in NA, and there is no price harmonization currently tho there will be later for the montly sub
but the perks i get will be applied to a EU acc for example?
yes
yes
oh great thx ^^
@rich kraken I did: "The spell effects are far from finalized but considering they plan to make 250 v 250 combat events, I don't think they will be nowhere near as bad as this"
they are not bound to a region when you buy them from the ashes of creation site. if i understood correctly π
ah! @onyx knoll thanks! missed that response π good to know
@rich kraken @turbid falcon They showed some particle effects in today's Dev update, if you guys wana check that to get an idea of what we might get https://youtu.be/vI8DDBX7hD0?t=1306
can i be harry potter
already halfway through since my twitch kept being mean when i wanted to watch it xD
looking good so far on effects @turbid falcon
That $375 Freehold house on the shop sure looks nice. I expect they will be using these shop items as parts of the world? Such as that house belonging to some NPC in a swamp? My understanding is they're never attainable after they're off the shop that month.
Saw the video, that's why I'm scared they don't go too far; and hope they add an option to tone them down. So we don't get too flashy fights when many players attack same boss.
hmm, it does help that the world itself, color wise, is not as cartooney and flashy
more ''normal'' actual colors, so it mutes it down
@turbid falcon Gotcha, Steven does say in the Dev Update that players will have a slider that will let them tone up or down the effects, so if it ends up being too much for you at least you'll be able to move that down!
I was watching the development update, and I saw the huge dungeon. I've honestly haven't seen this kind of dungeon of this scale in any mmo. Something that comes close to mind is legend of zelda dungeons. Looking at all these drawbridges and platforms and gates, seems to imply there might be even puzzle solving like legend of zelda. Does that seem to be the case? If so that would be my biggest fantasy. Maybe puzzles not as complex as legend of zelda, but incorporating anything like that in an MMO for dungeons would be crazy. It wouldn't be just kill some mobs and walk to the next room to kill the boss.
@cunning sparrow They did mention jumping puzzles at one point, and every archetype has a skill that lets them interact with the environment so you can find hidden stuff in dungeons like secret doors etc.
I'm not sure if they'll have jumping puzzles in dungeon themselves but I could see it in at least a few
Oh I love jumping puzzles
When do Braver of Worlds backers get alpha access?
With Alpha 1, sometime in fall
we don't have an exact date yet but you should receive an email when it gets close
Was that the access they referred to on stream today?
might be, I'm still watching the video I was working during the live
Ditto. Thanks for the help!
@rich spear I think you are talking about when they said they are sending NDAs out and to check your spam folders.
Thats for leader of men packs and above. They have a test next month for those guys
Are there limitations how many people can get The Access to alpha2
not that we know of @hybrid mica
@onyx knoll Thanks for the answer, that's really fantastic to hear. With a size of a dungeon like that I would've imagined it would be more than just mobs in every room and a boss in the final room. Puzzles or traps and secret rooms seems like a great improvement of what dungeons are really supposed to be like in games
Does the corruption system affect players who bring a green char down to low hp, then a mob kills them?
@willow swan This aspect is still being tested I believe. They're gona try it both ways and then decide
Ah okay. Could be a pretty frustrating griefing loophole. Lol
As far as I know each month the cosmetic packs change, right?
correct
yes, the next change is on the 5th
Does the corruption system affect players who bring a green char down to low hp, then a mob kills them?
@willow swan I had a similar thought & question: What if people go around not killing anyone, but just bringing lots of people to low health? Could be a major problem in dungeons and near mobs.
Will the new packs have access to the beta's and alpha at the same prices?
Thanks for the help!
@steep crystal Only the cosmetic change, nothing else
Perfect, thanks.
@hearty ermine haha yeah. Happened to me in multiple past MMOs. Hahaha
@hearty ermine Then all those people would have to get together to get rid of the troll π
@hearty ermine Then all those people would have to get together to get rid of the troll π
@onyx knoll True! But I am concerned about the person not getting corruption.
Yeah, as I said they're testing it. I'm in the same camp, hoping they'll decide that people don't need to land a killing blow to get corrupted. imo the moment you attack a green player as a purple or red, then if they die from any source you should get corrupted. We'll see what they decide eventually π
Would need a timer
true
question about writing AoC fanfiction: do we need permission from real life people to include them into our work?
Oh boy. I'll try to refrain from getting into a big discussion on copyrights in fanart because that could go on for a while, but TLDR; In general if you are writing non-profit fanfiction, then you don't need to ask permission to use people's names or content. If you are making any kind of money from it however then it would become a copyright infringement. It is considered polite to message an individual if you plan to use them in a story, but technically you don't need to. If they do see it and ask that you take it down, then I would recommend you respect their wishes. They might not be able to win a lawsuit against you if you refuse but it would be a massive mess, especially if you paint them in a negative light.
It gets even weirder if you're from a different country then the person in question...
Copyright laws are a pain π
oh wow, i was planning to do a murder mystery at Intrepid Studios. that wuld mean TOO MANY people to message
Haha, well you could send a generic message to them then I suppose
Speaking of copyright infringement, some friends and I plan to start a youtube channel in our language because it seems there are not many videos in this particular language. We would obviously put some content from the AoC youtube channel. Do we need some form of agreement with Intrepid studio?
@pseudo merlin you have my permission to use me in your work... write me.... write me all over...
I'm ZKL, and these... these are my adventures...
@frozen tartan I believe anything that is posted by the official AoC can be used to make more content, leme see if I can find an official quote on that tho
well that was easy:
@frozen tartan I believe anything that is posted by the official AoC can be used to make more content, leme see if I can find an official quote on that tho
@onyx knoll Thank you. We might still message some CM about that though (to be sure)
Why is there only one healer class?
Oh wait that's just for the wiki, but pretty sure if the wiki has permission to use it then everyone can, since the wiki is fan created
@limpid whale because the content is balanced around teams of 8 that include one of each archetype. Bards will also have a few heals however
Why is there only one healer class?
@limpid whale Technically there are 8 classes, but one archetype
@crystal beacon No you'll be able to transfer your packs to any server
And as Xenellia said, bard will have access to some healing spells
are bards going to be strong? (insert jeffrey joke)
Will the alpha graphic change in beta ?
Yeah some healing but they said only one true healer. Imo thats very boring.
Bard/Cleric might be a "not-so-weak" healer... We actually don't know
yeah depending on your hardware itll be pretty beautiful
i plan on testing bard/cleric first
Where is a list of all classes and archetypes?
@limpid whale https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
Tyvm
I could see an expansion adding a class like Druid or something. Because I too agree that having only Cleric as the 'Healing Class' is a tad boring. But it is made less so with the 8 different archetypes
yeah, I'm probably not gonna start off as a cleric but am really curious with how the cleric augmentation will work
Iβm really interested in the religion augments too
can we still pledge in kickstarters or is it closed
religious augment that needs blood of other players to work would be cool, any planned like sacrificial augments etc?
We should probably move this over to Discussion and leave this channel for questions
Yeah i see how it works now. So really there are 8 healing classes
no fast travel if i remember it correctly
What's the fast travel like? I really liked that BDO didn't have any, made the world feel a lot bigger without being able to fly everywhere or teleport all over the place
@crystal beacon There won't be any fast travel except for family members
Family will be limited to 8 characters (if memory serves)
its very limited, i believe it only becomes available when a node reaches metropolis
@limpid whale yes as an cleric primary, all going to have their little spicy into the mix
oh yea, the science node metropolis will have some fast travel enabled
@unreal spire when a scientific node reaches metropolis
Not quite like marriage, but you can think of it that way. You will be able to change members of a family but it will be time restricted
@crystal beacon Player marriage is a different system, you don't need to add the character you are married to in-game to your family.
This of it as like... a very small guild with some special perks
(i was on the wiki page about that)
hey, something crossed my mind when discussing religion and all of that, do we have any info on if there will be some form of interaction between cleric skills/skins and their chosen religion?
religions will be a horizontal augment on the skills as is the social, if i'm not mistaken
@bright blade Nothing that i'm aware of as of yet, that could be an interesting addition tho.
Hail The Others
@frozen tartan are you in the US? If you are that should fall under fair use in most cases
do secondary classes only give combat skills or would they give utility skills as well like the rouge's abillity to find secret doors in dungeons
will there be a storage where i can transfer items between characters
yes, in your housing
@jolly estuary secondary archetypes do not give ANY skills, they give you augments you can apply to your primary archetype's skills
follow up to that question: what's to stop me from making alternate characters to store valuables instead of the raidable warehouse
oh
so do you think that mage detecting abillity might get rouge augment then or only combat skills?
@crude sorrel Nothing? But if you want to move materials to an other location to sell them for profit then you need to use a caravan, you share housing with all your alts but it's only in one place
How many players or round about how many are allowed on a server at one time?
@jolly estuary Ahh I see what you mean. I don't think we can answer that yet, we'll know more about how secondary augments impact skills in alpha 2 when they release the secondaries. (imo the out-of combat skills won't get augments, but that's just my personal thought on it, nothing confirmed)
@arctic meadow The last official numbers were 10k online at once but that's still subject to change I think
ah hope they do get them though. thnx xen
o7
Good deal. Excited for the game. Wished it was being released next week. Lol
haha, I feel you
So, can Mayors assign assistants to help with duties or is it just kind of a unofficial delegation to whatever?
So, can Mayors assign assistants to help with duties or is it just kind of a unofficial delegation to whatever?
@arctic meadow No idea, but city councils would be cool for much larger nodes. No one person should have so much power haha
The only system of delegation I can think of is for when a castle is sieged, the guild leader can assign flying mounts to some of their officers. I don't think there was mentions of delegation of duties for mayors tho
what does one do when waiting for alpha 2....
@crystal beacon Only one type of node is a popularity vote
Theyβll be plenty of backstabbing and plotting im sure if someone has occupied a seat to long in a scientific node.
But, i agree, for Metropolisβs especially, even if its only those nodes the Mayor needs to be able to appoint help. That big of a node and being over it for 30 days you just cant be with it all the time.
Won't that person just be a big streamer who get's their viewers to vote for them everytime tho?
@crystal beacon I doubt there are enough popular streamers for every server and every node.
asmon is just gonna have his own server.
Won't that person just be a big streamer who get's their viewers to vote for them everytime tho?
@crystal beacon Also if that happens, then the system is working as intended. Voters can vote for whoever... so if they really DO want the streamer to be mayor, so be it. That's the system.
I feel like if you are popular enough to be voted in for multiple months in a row then... you.. kinda deserve the spot? XD
Yep i agree Xenellia
i mean. if u can rally enough people in the server against him u have a chance to dethrone
in other words, on US servers the voting will be rigged just like in real life US xD
Alright, Asmon bashing goes to #general-discussion this channel is for questions π
Please keep this channel to Questions and Answers only. If youβre passionate about further discussion feel free to move to the lovely discussion channels #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion Thank you. 
Have been really excited about this game since I first heard of the concept...i can't wait. Is there anything else available for someone to invest in the game/intrepid studios? I would be very interested if so
@prime acorn there are pre-order packs you can purchase on their website and the cosmetics rotate out every month
@prime acorn Welcome! Feel free to browse our various fan-made resources if you want to know more about the game; https://www.ashes101.com/index.html, https://ashesofcreation.wiki/
Yeah I already did that quite a while back :)
streamers exist outside the US
Like i said, if its a scientific node though, plenty of people can be persuaded with enough money or power seat elsewhere to even screw Asmon over if he is mayor. Has anyone heard the story of how one guy screwed an entire corporation over because the other corporation offered him a better deal in the game Eve? Doesnt matter how much power you think you have, your right hand man handling stuff can be lured if you arent careful.
@prime acorn If you want to support the game, there are some packs available on the official website! https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop?IntrepidSession=1595436599085.93001
Oops, sorry I was slow you said you already did!
Will there be player owned businesses in the game?
At the moment the pre-order packs is the only way to financially support the game
@arctic meadow yes
Thank you though I've been on here for a bit just haven't talked...also have the developers thought about some of the systems from rift, Warhammer online, swtor, swg, ever quest...so many cool ideas that I see incorporated into this game that I can see inspirations from other games. It will be nothing short of amazing if It lives up to half of what it shows potential wise let alone most of it!
hi guys is there links to see what the next preorder packs will look like i want to buy the voyager plus but im not a fan of the whole swamp theme not for the char i want to make anyway
@arctic meadow I'm sure there will be, the game encourages it a lot with crafters. You could have a mercenary business that helps defend caravans, as well as own a tavern. There are a lot of possibilities!
@leaden bolt The swamp theme is the current cosmetic set available throught the packs, the swamp theme leaves and a new cosmetic comes in on Aug 5th
They haven't revealed what the next one will be yet, as far as i know

Was there a profession kind of like creature handler on swg? With genetic mods n such always thought that was really neat
What class was @idle siren in the stream today when he was using javelin to pull mobs? Was that a Tank with a subclass?
@prime acorn i heard somewhere that there will be an animal husbandry profession in Ashes of Creation. with hybrids and stuff
@hearty ermine I believe that was the Tank archetype, not a full class as he was lvl 10
@hearty ermine not sure, could be fighter or tank i'd keep an eye out on their news releases for class blogs
will tulnar cities be underground?
Can't wait to tank and tweak the classes...ive played a top tier dk tank on wow and several other top end tanks as well
thanks guys π i will wait till the the 5th π
Also thank you all for answering questions
there will be underrealm nodes, but like other nodes their architecture will be decided by the race that contributes the most to the node @final oxide
@hearty ermine I believe that was the Tank archetype, not a full class as he was lvl 10
@onyx knoll @slow sky Thanks!
@final oxide Lore-wise, yes. I don't know if the Underrealm nodes will follow the same rules as the ones from the over world and evolve based on which race provides most xp to the node or if they will always have the architectural style of the Tulnar tho
do unerrealm nodes match up with normal ones?
Chances are, even if they do eveolve in the style of an other race you'll have more TUlnar NPCs in those nodes tho
we do not know how the nodes will be spread around the world
The Underrealm is it's own area and is like a 5th of the size of the over world so I doubt they will match up
(over world is 480 km^2, Underrealm is 100 km^2)
It should be released by the 5th of Aug from what I have been told @leaden bolt
really I thought there were very close in size
Nah, the Underrealm and the Tulnar is a kickstarter goal so it's a bit like.. bonus content I guess you could say
Can we get clarity on what the latest iteration of core attributes look like in one of the upcoming dev guides?
That and racial seeding if pos
is there a beta going on right now? if i preorder is there something to play atm?
@steel basin No, the earliest you can buy into would be the alpha 2, for which we don't have a date. Alpha 1 is set to start this fall
What is the cooking profession going to give to players? Food buffs I imagine?
Anyone know are enemy NPCs only going to be animals and monsters? I like it when enemies are also people from playable races. Example the Scarlet Crusade in wow where you also have a whole story behind it.
@cunning saddle They showed humanoid (looked human) enemy NPCs in the dev update today
@eternal glade There was mention of food buffs in relation to the player-run taverns so I assume that food in general will give some sort of bonuses
@onyx knoll Will check it out now
will there be height slider?
@whole dawn Steven said he wants the character creator to be on par/better then the one from BDO so you can look at that to get an idea of what to expect (more specifically related to height I'm pretty sure he said yes to that in the AMA, but that there would be limits so you can't have a super duper tiny human)
@onyx knoll Do you have a refferal code Im registering on the site π
@onyx knoll aoc disc is going crazy about little anime girls (the L word is banned), how will it be possible to ban L word characters if theres that much customization?
@cunning saddle Aww, thank you! I do ^^ https://ashesofcreation.com/r/WQL3W2XRWLXELJAT
np
@whole dawn Those type of characters are about more then just height, dwarves are shot but no one would ever call them the L word. If you restrain height for humans to a natural non-child size, then it'll already be very hard to make such a character, the other important attributes are child-like features. Try to make a L character in BDO with the Valkyrie template, you'll never be able to... Tamer tho.... -_-
Are there nodes that spawn "cities in trees" confirmed for the Py'Rai ( wood elves ) ?
@crystal beacon Node architecture is based on which race provides most xp to it
people are pretty liberal with the use of the L word, idk
So if you have a ton of players playing Py'Rai who work around a node, then it'll grow to have the city-in-tree architecture of the Py'rai
L word ?
And here I was like why are they lesbian wtf?
@whole dawn That's fair, I'm sure you might be able to achieve the bare minimum of what your be considered a L-type character if you try hard enough. The biggest constraint might end up being eye-size. If they don't let you have huge eyes that'll be a big drop to the look
i dont think eyes are important for L's
thats just an aesthetic that some animes use
i think its height + flat + thin
Mhh, I feel like they are, as they are what gives the most "youthful" look imo, but anyway we're getting away rom the questions now
true
I just finished re-watching the Live Stream from the devs. I am referring to the comment made at 29:03 about "Skill based target skills will not so much be affected by your accuracy stats but how well you keep an aiming based attack on target." I wonder how balanced that will be if certain Class builds have a more tab target skill focus vs Class builds that have more Action-combat aiming?
Q: When a player is attacking a mob in the open world and another player comes up and attacks that player but doesnt get the killing blow does the attacker still gain corruption if the player didn't attack back.
@lapis sinew At the moment no, but that's being tested so it's not final they're gona try it both ways before they decide
Ok but if right off the bat, tab target skills have to deal with an accuracy stat vs using aiming system, then why even have tab target if you have to work on an extra stat.
@acoustic bison it'll be impossible for you to have only action-type skills so it'll be a stat you need to invest into no matter what
Thank you.
yes but if i can choose 75% of my skills to be action-combat skills. then as a player, i can just say "well i dont need to use the other 25% if I can hit the enemy using 3/4 of my skill bar". I mean i guess at the end of the day I is user preference but I just dont see how tab target players who like that style vs action combat will get a fair fight if they decide to use 3/4 of their skills into tab target".
Q: Any1 know roughly how many dungeons are planned 4 launch?
@acoustic bison The way the system has been described so far, action skills will be mostly area spells and hard CC, so some of your high damage skills might be tab-target. You won't have like... the option to chose tab-target or action for 1 skill. A skill will either be action or tab. If you decide to go the max of 75% action skills then you will probably be losing out on some high dmg abilities
Just saw the live stream, looked awesome! Was that green spider bio luminescent? It would be super cool and spooky to have glow in the dark spiders.
@broken lodge We don't have a number, most dungeons in AoC are not instanced, they're basically extra zones that open up once a node reached a certain level, so there will be a lot of them as they're basically part of the map
@burnt nest I think so, the Underrealm is all about the bioluminescent aesthetic!
yea, 80%ish will be public. Back in d day, Public dungeons was all we had
they're great
As a PvP'er, I just wanna go into a public dungin & fuck shit up
While that may be true, I guess I just see this as an issue for some player preferences. However, the first skill I have seen was that Beam attack, which the dev said "the beam will do increasing damage the more you hold it on target". I see that comment, along with the "no accuracy stat affects action skills" as a bit of a problem that might need to be addressed. especially if they want each class to be strong in their own right.
Its just a concern I see that i hope is addressed with future updates and more dev discussions.
We'll have to wait and see once we have all the skills π For now it's really hard to tell since there are no numbers
I recommend you keep an eye on it, and if you see that it's a problem then make a forum post about it! That's the highest chance of the dev seeing it
Thats exactly what I plan on doing by watching the alpha-gameplay whenever it gets released. Thank god for that transparency.
Agreed!
is alpha 1 still in the fall?
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Anyone know if they use blueprints or c++ for unreal engine development?
@shut mantle you use both typically
designers typically use Blueprint and developers C++ to expose features to developers
@worthy scarab Yep, nothing more specific has been announced yet
steven has started sayingin fall at the end of the year so defo around december time i think
Is it normal for AoC support to take over a week to respond on open tickets?
They're being pretty swamped since the Asmon etc interviews, so could be just slow :/
Idk its been a long time. Even with a small team thats pretty weird to have to wait so long in my experience.
what is it about?
Has there been any news/artwork to show what the next line of preorder packs will look like?
@wanton cosmos not yet, the update will happen on Aug 5th guaranteed though
Q: Is world map walled off at the edges or is it continuous? That is, if you go east can you get to the west continent?
It is walled
@blissful stream I think they're still deciding if you want to do a round world or not, at the moment it's walled
Is it walled by an actual barrier or a fatigue zone?
@burnt nest @blissful stream We don't know yet. They said they want to test out both a continuous and walled off version
@blissful stream unknown at this time
i see, thank you for answering 
I don't suppose anybody caught any class and role news in the new video? Still hoping there are more viable tanks and healers than just Tank and Cleric. Those who choose tanks and cleric as their secondary archetype should be at least moderately viable tanks/healers.
Edit: Looking into it, still no news. Second archetype tanks/healers will not be vialble as it is. π¦
wasnt a topic
will there be a CBT skilltree?
Iβve been behind AoC since very early 2017 and Iβve heard it read this somewhere but in the recent streams and AMA, it wasnβt addressed. My question is in relation to a flying mount: Do the top rated players in a PvP arena get awarded flying mounts? Or is there a way to attain a flying mount in any PvP scenario or is it just locked to Mayors, the owners of the guilds and world boss drops, etc. Any info in this will be helpful and appreciated
@rare geyser CBT?
@simple pecan We did recently get confirmation that the bard will have proximity-based or proc-based healing to a much lesser degree than Clerics, but that's something towards healing choice.
@stoic flume I don't think there has been any mention of any flying mount reward for pvp, but they haven't fleshed out the ranked pvp like arena, so maybe?
@stoic flume Castle Sieges are pvp events that offer the leader of the winning side one or you could get one through a military metropolises mayor battle arena.
that's a good point, Castle Siege are basically giant PvP battles and Military node "elections" are a show of pvp skill
Ooo, alright.
Iβve been passively following the news or ashes for a couple years but recently Iβm catching up on all the wiki updates and news letters but that helped. Thanks
@onyx knoll as military elections are through a champion you control not actually your character it's no longer skill pvp expression
that just sounds more skillful to me
@surreal elk Mh, I feel like the intent of the champion is to make it almost purely an expression of pure skill, since you won't potentially have OP gear to rely on

just curious, knowing full well it might not have been decided yet, but what are the advantages exactly to specialising or mastering the taming artisan skill?
I thought the champions were basically the same as a normal character in the sense of abilities, but with set gear, but maybe I misunderstood
@radiant oxide Taming will allow you to find creatures that can be used by the animal hunsbandry profession to breed together for mounts or pets
If i want to ask a question on the live stream where would I input those questions?
hello everyone , quick Q, is there a way to travel to another server by sea, u can look at servers like another continent to explore ?
If they have a QnA section they'll have a post for it a few days before, otherwise the twitch chat during the live
@woeful imp to an other server? no, each server is independant
@acoustic bison Usually in a forum thread that opens a week beforehand and closes the day before.
@woeful imp i beleive each server is the same, so there would be no point
@unkempt gale Each server will be very different since the nodes will all evolve in different ways
same map though
It all depends on how the players build it
They will all be exactly the same on day one
not like Last oasis, where you can walk to other servers, that are different maps @onyx knoll
@onyx knoll ty
@unkempt gale every server will be diff cuz of the nodes system , i thought it will be cool to see other servers progress
@woeful imp Other servers are completely separate places that don't get visited, (unless you make an alt) the only exception to interacting with people from other servers are cross server arenas
Ahh, neat concept
@crystal beacon yes, you can't have the same name as someone else so if someone name reserved ahead of you you won't be able to get the name on that server
yep
What new information came out in the last update?
so i just bought one of the preorder packages so what do i do now
wait
So the name reservations are not across all servers only on the server you wanna play on ?
i brought the idea cuz of the scientist node i thought maybe it will let us tp to other servers then i thought of exploring by , but anyway this game is insane and im hyped
has there been any mention of augments for doubling down on a class e.g. cleric cleric? do you just get to expand more on your base skill options rather than modifying them?
@coral sundial You wait π if you got the 250$ or 375$ ones you'll be able to play when alpha 2 launches, probably next year otherwise even longer of a wait
@sullen drum I believe so, but we don't have official confirmation since it hasn't happened yet
ahhh so they give me time to regather my money so i can spend more on cosmetics
very smart
@fluid dust We'll know more during alpha 2 when they release secondary, but I doubt doubling down will give you more skills, probably just make you really good at this one thing
I mean .... If there would be a possibility to transfer characters on other servers . You won't be able to transfer of someone has the same name as you on the server you want to transfer to
@sullen drum That's the case in most MMO, you usually would get a free name change
Ok .. that seems legit
i played some games that merged server , the people with the same name gonna have (servername)next to the names
Anyone have any idea if you can buy, sell, or trade exotic mounts? I think the idea of being an exotic mount breeder sounds pretty cool.
I'd be game for that @broken cove if it is difficult to do. Not just anyone able to be an exotic breeder
For sure
Does anyone know if there will be water elemental spells for any class? Most games I see don't usually include water as an option, or just use ice as a stand in for water
@broken cove Depends on your definition of exotic. You won't be able to buy/sell/trade Royal Mounts, which are the tier 3 flying/combat mounts. BUT you WILL be able to breed unique mounts with better stats and skills and create never-seen before looks or combinations!
Yeah, I just mean the mounts you can breed from animal husbandry.
Because I'm assuming a lot of the animals will be biome specific.
Could be, I feel like that is a safe assumption but we probably won't know for sure until late in the alpha 2 when they open up the map more
Can't wait!
same!
@broken cove I recon they will be sellable/tradable otherwise there would be no point on doing animal husbandry besides getting unique pets/mounts for yourself
Err yes sorry I realise I didn't specify you could sell them, but yes, you can trade the mounts you breed xD
What were some of the cool new things we learned from the update last night? I am gonna watch it tho
That is what I was thinking. The idea of someone across the continent showing off a mount you bred for them is a pretty insane thought. Good for business too. π
im wondering how animal husbandry will use mastery
@unkempt depot Water is pretty
like well mounts be better?
@unkempt depot They didn't release anything super new, they showcased a lot of progress in the art/animation/particle effects
will*
@red jetty the higher your rank in animal husbandry the better stats you get for you mounts I presume
The breeding system is very complicated I suggest you read up on here, me trying to just explain it all would be a massive wall of text but basically yes @red jetty https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry
@red jetty this one quote pretty much answers your question tho I think:
@onyx knoll Thanks
I wish they would comment on the depth of fishing
imagine if you have max fishing and you are legit going out to harpoon a kraken
that would be fucing incredible
@unkempt depot They're probably still working on the basic ideas for it so they don't want to give anything until they have a solid base
The breeding system is gonna be so fun to play with
yeah
One of my guilty pleasures in past MMO's is establishing myself as a merchant by reselling off the market and top farmers, and getting filthy rich. One issue I've seen time and time again that many game's haven't been able to tackle is massive inflation of the game's currency. Do you guys have a plan to counteract this?
With the hatred there seems to be towards "L-words", does that mean it'll be impossible for someone to make a cute character?
I mean counteracting inflation in my experience takes alot of effort but its possible by the players
@frozen lily (This isn't a question channel in which you should expect an answer from the dev, this is for the community members to help others as much as they can, so if you want a dev answer I recommend trying the forums) As for my answer on this, the idea from what we've seen is to establish a lot of sinks for materials and currency, I don't think you can prevent inflation over time but hopefully by having so much need for materials people will be forced to not just sit on their gold
Was the next Pre-order pack announced?
@dense fossil not yet
Darn, alrighty thanks
you go on the marketplaces and put a large amount of different reocources at a price way lower than it normaly would on as many base materials as you can
only works if most things are tradeable
@onyx knoll oh, thank you!
which from what im seeing it is
From what I remember Steven said about ship building. Anyone can build ships as long as they have the materials from the artisans, but do they have to be citizens of the particular node with a dock?
Q. Has the kickstarter bonuses ship sailed? Honestly I just found out about this game and want to contribute.
@royal fulcrum They are long gone π¦ You can buy pre-order packs on the official shop https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
Are the castles in predetermined locations? If so do you need to get lucky and level up the correct node to max level to get one?
thanks! man i wish i would have heard about this years ago. lol
@sullen drum I'm not sure that's how it works, from how i understand you can buy a very basic ship from NPC vendors then upgrade it to be what you want it to be with parts from crafters. You can only board it from a node with a dock or from specific coastal spots, not in the middle of the ocean. I could be wrong tho since they haven' treleased a lot of detail on the ships
@royal fulcrum You would have needed to hear about it almost 3 years ago haha
Kickstarter closed in 2017
@old musk Castle are in pre-determined spots
I just went out there and saw. Alas... π
has anyone here played yet, and how is it in ur opinion?
So you need to get lucky and level the correct node I would assume.
@coral sundial There is an NDA currently so no one who has played can tell you their opinion. The NDA will be lifted in fall when alpha 1 launches
ohh ok
@old musk No they will start as castles
@old musk Castle nodes don't act the same as regular ones, they will start out as bastions controlled by NPCs that guilds can siege to gain control of
Should the Tulnar be reptilian with lizard, snake, or frog themes? React with your favorite reptilian emote!
Is there stocks or anything for Intrepid Studios/Ashes of Creation? @ me if your answering my question please
@hollow niche THat's more of an opinion then a real question, please bring it to #aoc-discussion π
I'm sorry that I'm repeating my question, but I'd really like to know whether or not anyone knows if it'll be possible to make a cute character in this game, despite the hatred for "L-words".
Any eta on when all the races will be shown in detail?
It's a very important factor to me, as you can probably guess from my lalafell profile picture
Do you guys think the community is hyping things up too much?
@silver beacon We don't know yet as the charactor creator is far from released, imo there is a big difference between a cute character and the L-word genre so I'm sure you could make a cute-looking character
@silver beacon steven has stated he wants a better character creator then black desert online so I'd say yes
What is an "L-word"
El Oh El Eye
For some reason the devs really hate them so they outright banned the word it seems
Seems a bit extreme if you ask me
A discussion for an other place, but I doubt they'll go as far as make it impossible to have cute characters, that wouldn't go over well π
Yeah, but I know some people who just outright disallow anyone from making things that aren't mature and gritty enough for them
Does the team have any idea when Alpha Two will be?
I want to make a fishingcharacter like in the deadliest catch with waves hitting my boat and maybe people getting washed off. Will there be dangerous waves on the ocean or real water physics where you have rogue waves?
@sullen sleet I'm sure the devs have a rough estimate but they haven't shared it with us
Ok cool
@unkempt depot We don't have that sort of detailed information on the water systems yet unfortunately. Would be pretty cool tho
@sullen sleet consider following on socials or singing up for the newsletter for when the testing phases will be. Of course youβll be notified for other events and developments as well π
https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360033777814-How-can-I-keep-up-with-the-latest-news-
@hollow niche π
Other question I had earlier, will there be any kind of water elemental magic in the game? It's so rare to see a game that doesn't just lump ice and water together, or just ignores water altogether
If not, maybe cosmetic changes to spells?
@silver beacon There might be, I haven't noticed any mentioned yet but we don't have anywhere near the full list of combat skills. We should get a better idea when they release all the primary archetypes in Alpha 1, and when they add the augments in alpha 2
Okay, good to know, thanks
np π
If I can get both a cute character and water magic, this game will be 10/10 for me :p
Haha, I hope your wish gets answered then! ^^
just wondering but do you guys only higher local for entry roles?
is Alpha 1 taking place on the island map built originally for apoc? Or are the planning to start testing some parts of the world.
Bonus points if Tulnar get to have fox features
@junior pagoda Alpha island represents about 1/30th of the world, Full A1 is supposed to represent about 1/5th
damn
thats impressive
I guess they probably want to get that world building spawn tool finished before A1 begins.
so they can rapid iterate with feedback
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