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id image it will launch with the 5 main regions na sa oce euw eune cn kr
Wait wheres the info that aus is getting a server coming from?
@earnest knoll https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016194674-Where-will-your-servers-be-
Yo
ew sydney
@nova sigil whats wrong with Syd?
I got a question regarding the artisan classes
Ahh ty yea i hadnt seen any conformation yet ty @exotic hollow ๐
Will u be able to โunlearnโ professions?
@coalfyer its Australian
I don't think unlearning profession was ever discussed so far
K
Would be honestly surprised if that wasn't possible though
True
@nova sigil AU produces only the best ๐
@amber crater My research seems to imply you will have a fixed mastery you can't change, but other skills you can
bring them to nz ๐
@exotic hollow Sure bud nz is betr least all the wildlife aint dead yet pog
Wildlife just plays dead when the Kiwi's start drooling at them
Any alpha 1 tester can tell me something about the actual pvp combat gameplay?
Like how does it feel
I dont think it has started yet
whered all the nz hate come from lmao
Then general combat
The first testing phase begins in august if im not mistaken
@exotic hollow true we have our fair few crack dens
@crystal beacon I know what u mean, Star Cit got a lot of us
Ohh thought alpha 1 is alrdy active??
@nova sigil the NZ AU discussion can probably go into another channel lol
Alpha 1 fall
So the skins in the pre-purchase packs change?
And the phoenix backers (highest ks packages) will be testing it first in a month or so
nah its fine just wee bit o banter that got a bit off topic
Braver of worlds = alpha 1??
what currency are the pack in the aos website? are they local country prices?
@exotic hollow yes every month or so, next switch is on the 5th
@keen ice united state dollar
Ty again for that link @exotic hollow
ohh shiit welp guess that $375 ($530 AUD) pack aint happening
Yes braver of the world has access to alpha 1
@foggy basin yes, if you have Braver of World tier of backer you should get an email when alpha 1 starts
Thanks guys
ohh shiit welp guess that $375 ($530 AUD) pack aint happening
@keen ice Doesnโt include any tax that might apply also. ๐
oh yeah. not even gonna bother lol initial price is waaaaaaay out of my price range
@keen ice register now though, gets you a statue
You don't need the $375 pack
i created an intrepid account if thats what you mean
The 250 has alpha two as well.
$250, like its nothing
(an in-game one you can put into your house, in case anyone expects to get mailled a real one lol)
But I wanted a real one. ๐ฆ
250$ isn't nothing for everyone :)
what is in the $375 but not in $250 ($347 AUD) cuz that is more affordable for me
With the USD getting weaker vs the AUD, I'm will to wait ๐
as i said, he casually says, you dont need the 375 dollar one, you can just get the $250, like its nothing
The house skin.
and the caravan skin
I think itโs house skin, and some game time also.
Also name reservation
Oh yeah 3 months more game time and some more embers as well
@tardy elbow I bought the $375 pack, which I don't think is expensive. But for some it is.
Might be best to just wait until the game releases and just pay $15/month for the game
On phone so going off of memory
i wish i could lol, im saving, just so i can buy a cheap new computer, to be even able to play it when it comes out
I have purchased the 375 pack and will be playing as soon as it is out. I had a big conversation with the Wow classic community this morning in Europe and a lot of people are looking forward to the game
Yeah like, when you break down the package to how much the game time is worth, how much the embers are worth, and then figure you're buying access to play in alpha/beta early which is who-knows-how-much game time... I actually decided it could be worth it to put the money in up front.
im currently in a raid so cant do quick maffs but if all the missing items are converted to their value is there money saved if going for the $375? or the $125 is the worth of items difference in the packs
basically what tiskun said
Reminds me: Anyone know if we can buy game time with Embers? I couldn't find anything on it
They are comparible in price when you consider what you're getting.
I mean realistically, the $375 pack gets you alpha and beta + name reservation + game time. All the other stuff is just crap really.
Depends how much value you personally put on cosmetics, i think the 375$ is very good value for what is in it personally
Will you be able to apply for an alpha or beta and play the game? If so when ?
So it really breaks down to what can you afford up front for how much of a nice package you get.
yes, but then you value in game items, i can only value playing time as time is the only thing i got spare ๐
Id spend a lot of money to be able to play - sadly missed the kickstarter. But I agree - its up to each individual if its worth paying that much for gametjme or not.
if i could have bought the life time, i would have
because i imagine playing it well out, but thats not possible anymore
if i could have bought the life time, i would have
@tardy elbow Same.
yeah the $500 kickstarter when i saw it initially i got jealous
@dark valve there will not be any open beta or alpha, you can gain access by purchasing pre-order packs or by waiting until they do contests for beta keys in a year or two
@onyx knoll yeah the costume as well. Just checked
Another question I want to ask is about the loot system within a guild. Is there a plan to implement a system such as EPGP so that those who put more effort into doing raids get more effort points and priority to obtain dropped loot ?
@frigid vigil that's up to your guild
Loot council is better ๐
No in game dkp epgp plans
Ok if there is no plan to implement this in game, will there be an API and interface available so that people can code their own system?
No api available
get dem spreadsheet ready
Steven doesn't like addons
OK im going to get ready to stick spreadsheets all over my face.
We don't have a lot of details on how the guilds will function and what systems will be implimented but they have mentionned wanting to add management tools so that might be part of it
going to need to hire an accountant for large guilds lol
Maybe the "Scribe" crafting profession can handle DKP systems :p
Management tools are good for a guild. I have to run 2 guilds in wow classic and we use a lot of management systems for this. Loot Council, EPGP, Scheduling raids, class priority etc
Google docs are just as good.
Thanks for the help people, c u all l8tr
It would be nice to have something in game instead of Alt-tabbing
Something in game which can log all loot received by every player in a raid vs writing down every loot received in every raid is not very efficient.
Or will there be a logging output so that a log file can be queried for information within the game and then this can be exported to a sheet - for example the warcraft logs uploader tool.
Yep, if we can get this in csv format such as date,time,playername,raidID,Lootname,Value then this would be good
I know this is probably obvious, but the 'persistant' alpha 2 means that alpha will be available to play all the way up to launch yea?
It will go into alpha2 then beta1 then beta 2 then main release
Alpha all the way till launch 
What does the persistant part mean then?
hi guys, was wondering if there is any pack I can buy to play the game now?
I am not sure how the client and the server versions will work but I expect the version of the server will be upgraded to support beta clients and thus alphas clients will not be supported
@raw ridge nope at the moment only high level kickstarter backers have access
Persistent alpha 2 means servers wont go down
I am going for lunch. Catch you later
Where as alpha 1, there may be windows of playtime and server may be down several of the days
ahhh ok
@keen ice thank you
Alpha 2, servers will remain up 24/7 with wipes
that makes more sense
They will change A2 servers to PTR servers, so they wont take them down
Do you guys know if ashes of creation will be on Console as well?
No plans yet i dont think
wait, now im getting conflicting info again
They said that alpha servers will be persistent, so those people will continue to play on their own server as a test server. Meaning that when beta-only people get access they will play on different servers. But I am sure all that is subject to change if the devs need it to.
is progress in alpha and beta carried on to live game?
No
No Sloane
Nope. But there will be a headstart.
Will be full wipe before launch
ok good
thatโs better tbh
There will be a few headstart servers you can choose not to play on them
Not all servers will have people who have a headstart
@cedar orchid they said there may be console support in the future, nothing concrete yet.
And headstart servers will have heavy restriction on exp
Headstart is only for a few people that have bought headstart in Kickstarter
And yeah, only specific servers will allow them
"Persistent" means that the Alpha-2 servers will be kept up all day and night until launch.[1] - thats on the wiki, so if thats wrong it might need to be adressed
^
Its right
It jus means servers wont go down
Like i said, alpha 1 will have gaps in the test phase
@tulip hatch Thank you for the info much appreciate it!
Yea so if you get alpha 2 access you can play all the way up to launch? with wipes ect
ok sweet, thats sold the pack for me then xD
question: i saw that there is collision between player character, will there be a option to disable it if someone is giefing?
imagine a repeat of the pool is closed
I dont think so? Not sure
follow up question for yall, do we have any idea when the alpha 2 packs will stop being purchasable?
Are there some archetypes that have more fleshed out skills than others right now ?
@earnest knoll no, but the devs will give plenty of head-up notice before Alpha 2 packs are no longer available
Ahh sweet ty @oak depot
Can anyone tell me for what is this ambers that w get if we buy the packs ??
Hi everyone, I got a question regarding character progression. I know we can only have/master 1 class (primar and secondary archetype) per character. I understood it was the same of the artisanship (gather/rafine/craft). but are the progresison shared ? or are they separate so I can be a master paladin that is also a master in gathering plants ?
I almost got a little disappointed when I learned Founder level and above kickstarter backers have a 2-day head-start before game release (thinking it would prevent me having the virgin experience of an undeveloped world from the get go), but I learned that the plan is to have separate headstart servers and there will be headstart limitations in place (like the node system will be deactivated). https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Head_start
oh ,so we trade money for that to buy the cosmetics in shop ?
yes
ok ty
Embers, not Ambers I believe
@short compass the first one is your combat skill, the second is your vocational skill. Yes they are separate, yes you can be master of both
great thanks !
I thought the term was Artisan Skill instead of Vocational, no?
sorry, not trying to be nit-picky but rather get terminology straight in my head
I think thats correct nostra
About the area of the game we know is 480 km2 ,can anyone tell me if that is bigger or small than wow azeroth ?
about gear ,in wiki Armor characteristics ,i only see for example on heavy armor it will give defense and more hp ,we will not have more stats like critical or strenght ?
@cyan coral just remember that no matter how big the world is, it all depends on the players speed at which they can traverse the world
Did some math yesterday on size
map is 480km^2
so in wow kalendor and eastern kingdoms have 200km2 ,so this game will have the more than the double ??๐ฎ
That math may not account for if those water tiles around the border stay or are just placeholder until they have the barrier or whatever they put there
so it could be slight;y less overall
That math is all well and good, but means nothing if you don't know the player movement speed.
^^^^^^
@vast dirge sure, but they said in the AMA it will take "several" hours to travel from corner to corner
I would assume several to be 4-5 hours
we talking about the size ,not the time we need to travel X to X
Yeah I know, but big maps with fast movement speed feel really weird.
Hopefully it's a big map with slow movement.
will there be a loading screen between continents
you could assume 4, which means you travel at 8 km / h or basically 1 km in 7.5 minutes
this is really amasing ,damn
the distance between gateways and starter node is about 1 km
so you get in and if you don't dilly-dally and read text do intro keybinds etc... you could be helping out within 10 minutes
@thorny summit you are the wiki maintainer?
guys will ashes of creation be a free to play or what?
15$ / month
okay thanks
no box cost also, just the sub
Iveonly heard 15
@oak depot The 15.99 was a misspeak
Are there some archetypes that have more fleshed out skills than others right currently?
@woeful vector mage , tank , ranger
@stable plover ty
check wikia
@oak depot one of the wiki maintaners. but lex does the most
was there any word on traveling between continents? how would you do it and will there be a loading screen or is the whole world there in one piece?
@thorny summit on the wiki here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Founder it says "head-start - 1 day early", but kickstart states 2 days early. Just an FYI
@tranquil willow https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ship_building
@tranquil willow No loading screen, player piloted ship
sweet
and note... sea-adventures
@oak depot Braver of Worlds gets an extra day headstart compared to Founder
has the level cap been disclosed yet?
Since Founder is a lower tier
@oak depot that wiki page is for the 150$ founder pack, not braver of worlds
@main kettle Player level cap is 50
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Braver_of_worlds this is for braver of worlds and shows 2 days headstart
@thorny summit yep, you are right.. I got confused
at launch its 50 will go up over time when new content is added =]
is this game playable now i read stuff saying it is
@thick vale not for us plebs xD
I assume traveling by boat between continents is not a cut-scene... but rather node-based adventures as we have the Mariner Class with Gunnary, Piloting, Navigation, etc. skills
@thick vale Only by a very tiny group of people under NDA, alpha 1 starts near the end of the year
so november ish
how do you sign up for alpha 1?
You cannot
oh ok then thank you
Alpha 1 access is for kickstarters
mmk thanks
@oak depot no worries
@light lynx A1 keys stopped being sold back in 2018 (a year after KS), the keys might go back on sale depending on how testing goes.
https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop other stuff like A2/B1/B2 keys are sold here
cool, thanks for the info o/
Is august gonna be the start of limited testing without nda?
Are there any secondary classes augments currently or are they still not fleshed out yet?
@woeful vector https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Augments
all we know really
@brittle vector the schedule 3 posts above your question is all we know
At the next AMA (or randomly provided info) I hope @idle siren can disclose 1-2 examples of Racial, Religious and Social Organization Augments that are planned
How do you get into Alpha 1 testing? Even the $375 pack on gives access to Alpha 2
You cant anymore
Aww
@woeful vector currently not possible. Might be re-opened in the future if they need more A1 testers
Roger
is the dev update going to have chat questions? I saw that they arent doing forum questions this time
@woeful vector alpha 1 is no longer available as they have the required amount of testers atm. They are planning to have 8-10k active a1 testers, however if they arenโt able to get that number they may sell them again. That being said if you have a ks package/summer package (back from like 2 years ago) you can upgrade to a1
I know its not a think but renting system wi be intresting for tools mounts and so on
Or stupid i dont know 
will those cosmetics came come back ever ? I liek the red one ALOT and only purchased the game the other week.
prob not
๐ข
Does anyone know if "skill points" are "ONLY" received from leveling, or can they be awarded from major quests or other milestones?
We don't know yet @oak depot
so someone wrote on the forums that you can't take part in a siege of the node yours is a vassal of. that true? or can you take part in someone else's siege, but just not start your own?
@covert rampart The APOC cosmetics weren't marked as exclusive/time limited like the pre-order cosmetics are so they could return at some point.
yess !!
Cant come soon enough lol
@viral lintel Citizens of Vassals are bound by the diplomatic states of the Parent Node.
gotcha, thanks
Will everyone that plays the alpha / beta's be reset on game release?
@granite sage yes
yep
thanks for answering
The community on this game feels great, despite no sign of release date ๐
@granite sage to correct my answer... release servers will be virgin. Alpha server will stay and become the post-release Test Server for future patches/content. I am not sure if they will character wipe the Alpha server when it transitions to a Test server
oh? interesting
guys one question, this means u wont have to pay monthly or am i understanding it wrong?
It's gone now, only if you were a kickstarter backer
i figured
fat rip
sad times
@sage walrus I mean it cost $500 ... so technically it pays for itself after 33.33 months
indeed
XD
Hello, so I sent a request at AOC support for upgrading my Braver of Worlds (Kickstarter backer) to Leader of Men as I am not able to do this through the shop. I had sent the ticket 3 days ago and haven't gotten any response. I know that the next Alpha is coming up very soon, is it possible to get in contact to a dev or someone higher then support to get this fixed and be able to sign the NDA forms? Not sure if Ill be able to make the cut off in time ๐ฎ
even less since you get cosmetics in the package too @oak depot
I was looking to get the $75 beta 2 access as it's what I could afford, but for some reason it worked out alot more with tax etc. so it wasnt purchase price I expected.
but ye it'll be worth for sure
@sage walrus people with the lifetime sub don't have to pay monthly, but it was only available during KS
๐ฆ ty
xD
what if i increase my payment to 501 dollars? will you bring it back? you know you wanna
Do you know if Ashes of Ceration (https://ashesofcreation.com/) and Ashes of Creation EU (https://aocreation.com/en) shares same progress like testing agenda, release etc?
or they are any differences?
@pine mirage They in general share testing/release date, some exceptions include things like the possibility of servers for languages released post-launch
Does anyone know if when alpha hits, there will be the secondary classes or just base classes?
Does a solo player realistically have a chance for mayorships/artisanship/etc... ?
@sage prairie A1 has primary archetypes, A2 has secondary archetypes
Just base archetypes
A1 capped at level 20.. secondary start at level 25
@stable plover thank you!
@crystal beacon yes especially for military nodes economic nodes and religious nodes
@crystal beacon Yes, it would take 'hardcore' solo play most likely though. For example, divine nodes the player who completes the most service quests for the node becomes mayor, that's the kind of thing a solo player could obsessively do, and as long as they did a good job of being mayor there's no particular reason for a guild to be super angry about that. (The same is applicable for military and economic nodes in other ways)
Wouldn't a guild be able to support a player for question in the divine zone ?
Same for military.
Military is Champion PvP based
military is based on duels, so not so much
Economic seems to be the only one, if you can get insanely rich
Oh it's 1-1 duels ? I thought it was a battle royale ffa last man standing lol
@crystal beacon Sure they could, but there's only so much it makes sense to focus on supporting someone in questing -> It might make more sense for a guild to do this with a metropolis, but I wouldn't expect them to bother with the lvl 4 vassal node under the metropolis
@crystal beacon
Military requires good PVP skills
Science is popular vote i Believe
Economic is Richest
and i know im forgeting one
Divine
Divine is question
ah
Are the champion battles done by Ai or are they player controlled?
I'm currently assimilating all the content in the wiki lol
aiming for the rich one dude ez clap
What exactly determines a node type? How do I ensure that i get an economic node for example?
you will be assimilated
@burnt patio Player controlled, The reason they went with champions is to account for class balancing so they don't have to worry about bard vs fighter 1v1
They are set
Is there a list of community run website for AoC ? I'm thinking of building something, but I wanna make sure it doesn't already exist.
@crystal beacon #community-links
All 103 nodes are set in their types
Thanks! ^^
will there be a vod of the stream posted to youtube later today? i will be working so i canโt watch the stream live but donโt want to miss anything
Well how do we know what node its going to be before we start working?
@indigo schooner type of NPCs around it
Basically it has to level before you know but Iโm certain after release there will be a player made list
@lapis aurora There will be a vod of the stream that goes up on youtube, probably today, but possibly tomorrow.
Yes @lapis aurora
You can tell what type of node a settlement will be based on the NPC in it
That's in the wiki
before there are NPCs im asking
Right but there are 0 npc at level 0 so you have to level it
@lapis aurora The stream will be viewable on twitch as a rerun after it's over before it's up on youtube if it's not on youtube yet.
I thought it started with a few NPCs
thanks @fair yew
what worries me more is, what if all the metropolis on the server are economic nodes lol ?
so we have to get lucky we get the node we want
okay that you, i am super hyped for this game honestly i keep debating on if i want to do the highest preorder or not because for the next 6months to a year i will be extremely busy with work but i canโt help but want to impulse buy the game
Like I said though after a bit there will be a map of node types Iโm certain
ok cool ill be looking for it
@crystal beacon There are synergies between metros of the same type. At the same time it locks some other features out entirely to not have a metro of that type ;p
i will keep that in mind do i need a twitch account?
Can a node be downleveled ?
@lapis aurora I don't think the game will be out in the next year or so
@lapis aurora You don't need a twitch account to watch videos there, only to chat
Nope just tune to twitch.tv/ashesofcreation
Like could it go from metropolis to city ?
Yes @crystal beacon
okay thank you @stable plover
So in theory, a guild could lead a war to change the metropolis to another city ?
Yup that is the point of node wars
they destroy one city to unlock the nodes nearby it @crystal beacon
@crystal beacon @fair yew They made a design direction change to where nodes won't ever delevel without going all the way to 0, for situations where a node would have deleveled in old design, some services get disabled until node either recovers or gets entirely destroyed.
does anyone know approximately a time for when voyager plus would get to start playing
Do they have a place to ask questions? I know they have done some qna at the end of their streams before. Just wanted to know if there was a specific place for that
Thanks greypelt. I heard something about that but wasnโt sure it if was true
when nodes get sieged they go back to level 0
So in other words, to change a metropolis, you need to completely destroy it ?
yes
damn...
@solemn finch there is a forum post you can put questions on for the live streams
Thank you
i have a similar question as zkl
as a solo player can u for example have a char for gathering and a char for processing and u can benefit from grinden on 2 char via for example a shared warehouse in your own stronghold ?
Yes you can share access to storage in your freehold across your characters
You can do that too
@crystal beacon do much money to little gain XD
okay thanks for the clarification @everyone
You can set permissions for friends and family to have access and even make changes to your freehold. But ownership is on your account
how would you get/build a freehold and would there be rent and things such as that to pay every so often to keep your freehold running or when itโs built itโs built and there isnโt much worries from there?
i think the only worry is if the node it belongs to gets Sieged @lapis aurora
You go to a level 3 or higher node and get a freehold writ to place it down within the zoi
I donโt believe there are property taxes for freeholds only for housing
I heard there are islands in the sea that we can potentially set up a free hold at - does anyone know what might be the benefit to that and does the water content have nodes?
But freeholds are more likely to be destroyed though right ?
They can be destroyed if a node is attacked for up to 2 hours after a successful siege
There are no water nodes mentioned as of yet
@fair yew so u may get lucky and dont loose anything evene tho the node is destroyed ?
you have the option to defend your own freehold for the 2 hour window either by yourself or with friends i believe
and potentially hire npcs to fight with you
Right. But if your freehold is not within another nodes zoi you will have 1 week to move it or it will break down
thats sounds awesome
Correct on defending and hiring mercs
When a freehold is destroyed or broken down due to no zoi you will just have to get a new writ in a different level 3 or higher node and your freehold layout will be mailed to you
thats pretty nice
u even can get a small amount of stuff in your warehouse back right ?
Yea when you fail to defend they donโt take everything
just a portion
okay thnx
Is there any fully safe bank storage option or say a bank at a castle would be safest possible but still not safe from a castle siege
Risk vs Reward is a pillar of Ashes
There will be a lot of different storage options such as guild banks housing storage and freehold storage. The only way to really keep stuff safe would be to hold the resources on your character and log out for the duration but you wonโt be able to hold much
i saw in the AMA stuff about player owned taverns on their freeholds is there some special way to make it into a tavern with certain equipment or is it just automatically set up with tavern capabilities
We donโt know too much about the customization of taverns. There are going to be games and stuff you can set so there should be some options
have to build a tavern on your freehold most likely
which will most likely take up a lot more space than normal stuff
so less plot available for other buildings on your freehold will prob be the tradeoff
i would be fine with that ever since hearing about the tavern i have been focused on wanting to run a โfamous tavernโ
Taverns will have food and quest boards and stuff like that not sure what other equipment you would look for
I would think that if you are wanting to run a famous tavern on your server you will want to be a master of cooking
is there anywhere it goes into more depth about taverns or is the AMA the first and only place they were mentioned
Iโm not sure if cooking is a crafting profession but I know the ability to provide special food and drinks to people that give buffs they need will be a big thing
cooking isa crafting profession
I wonder how the player run business will work with radius - if i set up next to my friend are we competing - do we need to price fight to attract players? Whats to stop every player from just using their own freehold
Yes cooking is a professions and it would be best to be master at it for a world famous tavern
I was thinking so but couldnโt remember off the top of my head thank you @boreal abyss
@strong drum the fact that some ppl might have their freehold on one side of the map, but are traveling on the other side of the map where you are
also food buffs only work within a "radius" of the tavern
so even eating at your own place and traveling across the world, will make the buff run out way faster
and you might be a master chef, while they might not, so your food gives better buffs
Also not everyone will have a tavern on their freehold
ok makes sense - steven thinks of everything am i right
He tries ๐
Ashes will basically be the most in depth game of dnd ever
i havent been like not able to sleep over a game since wow came out and i was a kid
but ashes gives me that feeling lol
@boreal abyss I think the the buffs you are talking about are the buffs that you get from the normal stuff a tavern provides but if you are a master cook and you make a food that goes into your bag they can take on there travels they will get the full effect of the food
@boreal abyss so say like the tavern gives you a soup you can make in the tavern even if you do not have the cooking skill mastered but if you are a master cook you can make food and sell it in your tavern even tho itโs not a ability you gain from the tavern it will make a location where people know they can always come to get there buff
Do they have any update about SEA/OCE Server?
No
@tired sedge I think steven talked about that hte food buff of food, will decay over time
can anyone send a link to the wiki professions page and classes i wanted to look more into depth about that sort of stuff
because the food is decaying over time
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes
If you are interested in a writeup on it as well:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YdLRr1PQnaFzTyzzZvANbzAeInCYm0rw4qN_X48n4j8/edit
@boreal abyss yeah Iโm pretty sure he said that food will go bad after a amount of time or have a set time you can use it but that just means you would have to visit the tavern more often my guess would be good is good for a day or two but that number is 100% a guess
@gritty bear Depends on what the last you heard was https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions - OCE servers will not be provisioned until Beta for Ashes of Creation (the MMO) and live launch for Ashes of Creation Apocalypse.
The likelihood is very high for Sydney or Melbourne based OCE servers, they might be in Singapore
thank you i will save the write up and read it later when i am off lol
I guess my statement is more that if you want to have a famous tavern the cooking skill will go hand and hand with it in my opinion
@stable plover Thank you so much.
So you guys get the feeling or is this just me but things you do in every day life like eating etc will be important in this game and highly customizable like for example the food if you need food and you know a tavern that provides the food you want but itโs a 30 min walk from your location you will still need to go get that food for you adventures for the day
The game seems to be as realistic fantasy as you can get in a game
I mean there are no food or water bars that you need to keep filled if that's whay you mean
question: if i buy the 75$ pack can i upgrade to the pack for 150$ for 75$
Yes
I see a lot of discussion regarding multiboxing, I wonder if multibox will ruin classes like bard, example in Lineage2 noone played Prophet/Warcryer as their main account. It just sat in corner as afk buff.
Correct you will not die from not eating food but you also will not be performing to the best of you ability persay with out taking advantage of food buffs depending on how strong they are
I mean buffs from food and pots are a thing in every mmo
Correct but if you take classic wow for example you want the best food or water you find a mage give him one gold and then you have all the food and water you will need for the day from my understanding depending on who cooks the food and where the food is cooked will change the buffs and how strong they are so you might want a special food from one guy while I want a food from another guy due to are personal builds of our character
i would like an actual cooking mechanic
that would be interesting. different ingredients, different skill levels, and different ways of cooking to make different buffs and debuffs
or an alchemy mechanic, make potions and poisons
I just learned you can "Crit" while gathering if you click inside the "RED" segment while it's doing the gather. So cool.
@dense raven forums work for me
whcih game is that ?
old system, might have changed
@crystal beacon footage of Ashes from 2017
I thought it was ashes, but i wasn't sure. only gameplay vid I watched so far was the 90 minutes one
@dense raven clear your browser data
the game looks great so far ๐
@oak depot That was the infamous QTE system from PAX, was such an immediate outcry from the "community" that it was pulled.
try something other than 1111
does this mean u can use 2 separate types of gloves or whatever?
@dense raven You might need to fill out a support ticket
that's probably bracers and gloves
i guess that makes sense, thankjs
@echo dew Don't take that picture as being too set in stone, it's still ui testing as opposed to being final.
There for left and right hand you guys come on naw @neon ravine probably right one is probably bracers
So do all classes no matter what archetype get to have bows? or a secondary long range weapon? Or is that just my imagination
@echo dew Don't take that picture as being too set in stone, it's still ui testing as opposed to being final.
@stable plover ofc ofc no worries
Any class can us any wep it just might not be the best one for you
@woeful vector Weapons, including bows, aren't class locked, but some classes like ranger might say have skills that work with bows, while others may not, or might have a greatly reduced selection when using a bow.
@stable plover
For example in this image,theres a bow icon. Is that for all classes or just this one?
I think weaponsa and armor with be skill restricted. Althugh there are races and classes that are more efficient on a particular weapons/armor
So plated wizards arw vialble lol
@woeful vector I think it's intended as a 'ranged' slot that any ranged weapon can go into for any class.
question, if someone has an account that pledged $1 via the kickstarter period, would they still be able to upgrade at all? or did they need the minimum package / tier to be able to do this?
also, would that same person be eligible for the backer stretch goals etc
I think you had to have bought a package to be eligible to upgrade but I don't know for sure @sullen orchid
@plucky pawn any ideas?
@sullen orchid Nope, this has been addressed before by other people who "donated" lesser amounts during the Kickstarter. If you did not buy an actual package, you have no package to upgrade.
That's fair, would the backer stretch goals still be available to them?
The backer stretch goals that are not specific to KS backers apply to everyone. For example everyone will be able to take part in expanded naval content. In your example those individuals would not get the "backer only dye set" as they are not seen as package holders that qualify. Toast can comment if they changed that, but I have seen them respond to those inquiries that way here before.
Ah I see, cheers.
Does anyone know when all the classes and archtypes skill info will be released? I saw bits and pieces on the wiki
Primary archetype skills will be with A1
Stuff to do with secondaries and classes will be A2
Thank you
The content pieces they had planned for release were delayed due to covid.
If we didnt back on game on kickstarter are the packages on the website what allow us to play the betas or am i out of luck. Just learned about this game yesterday
You can still purchase the packages from the Intrepid site that give access to A2, B1, and B2 currently.
Thank you, im really excited for the game
I wonder if their is going to be hidden rooms that only flying mounts can reach.
Is there going to be a hairdresser or a way to change how your character look/ gender and all ?
Yes, in game barbershop options are planned. How extensive and what options not known yet.
thatโs cool thanks!
@stable plover
For example in this image,theres a bow icon. Is that for all classes or just this one?
@woeful vector Where is this image from?
@crystal beacon you will look good during your wedding
@trim moon Jan 30, 2020 livestream, if your looking at it on the wiki it should give the source.
That livestream contains more context behind the image for the super curious.
Quick question, wiki states that alpha 2 will be available until launch but betas will not be; hows that supposed to work?
Like, are they gonna go back to the alpha when beta is over? I dont get it
separate servers
But why not keep the beta online then?
alphas and betas are designed to test systems of the game and user experience... they are not intended to be "the" game
so there is specific focus of each test
Depends on when that statement was made. Anything concerning testing phases and timelines prior to the Creative Directors letter in March 2019 has been disavowed.
they do need a test allowing high-level play, seems Alpha 2 will allow that by staying persistent (although it could have it's own character wipes)
can an arc wizard [mage, mage] use a sword and if so what benifits will being a fighter give @stable plover
Ok I thought of beta as an early version of the game in general, that was my misunderstanding then
they do need a test allowing high-level play, seems Alpha 2 will allow that by staying persistent (although it could have it's own character wipes)
@oak depot
Its stated that there will be wipes on the alpha 2
Fair point
There is a newer statement
sec...was looking something else up
Steven ๐05/02/2020
As a general rule, if the testing phase contains the word Alpha, it is safe to assume there will likely be wipes. The ultimate goal for A2 is to be persistent and the PTS, but before we get that far there's gonna be some wipes I would expect.
And there is another that is similar. Will see if I can find it.
@latent parcel An arc wizard can use a sword, but you should look for a sword that gives caster stats instead of physical dps stats compared to the swords that most fighters would be using. Additonally, while we don't have an example yet, the arc wizard could have an ability that say requires a spellbook, orb, or staff (more likely to have caster stats) we just don't have an actual example of that being the case, like say with some ranger abilities that require a bow.
What can the class Cultist do? Are we able to create a cult?
we'll know closer to Alpha 2
I don't know why but I feel the urge to destroy the world in the game. To become the demonlord. A cultist would be the perfect choise or maybe a necromancer. That is why I wanna know if you can create a cult.
how about a guild with a cult mentality?
i mean you could just rp a guild into a cult
people are already have crusades against tulnar and going to be fanatics of their chosen religion
Oh, so I don't have to destroy the world. The players on accident will destroy the world xD
you can defo be a demonlord style character im guess you jsut have to get a like minded group of people
Military node can help with reducing corruption levels and build up that and burn all those not apart destroying caravan routes. Create a good story about this evil corrupted kingdom.
@unreal zealot maybe "Shadow Lord" then?
lets try to keep this channel for questions. discussions can be held in #aoc-discussion
Is it true that if you get 8 classes with a similar primary in a same group they can cast a mega spell?
Planned possible mechanic. More details to come
because that sounds sick
i saw it briefly on the wiki 8 summoners can summon a golem
or something like that
They said that about summoner, not confirmed about any other classes
yeah thats the one i saw
but they have to be the same primary and secondary
Just same primary and it can be less than 8
Same primary. And they have shown at least the mass wall for tanks.
The 8-summoner summon is only during Sieges is my understanding
Are we getting a gear shop anytime soon (shirts, mugs, lanyard) ? The phoenix logo is so cool
How does open world pvp work during the same time as a boss fight? Friendly fire isnโt enabled right?
So my stray aoes from wonโt splash onto others and start pvp right?
you have to flag to enable pvp
there is a flag for whether you want AoE to trigger PvP or not (you have to opt into it)
Merch store later closer to conventions and later phases. Pvp can happen at all places outside safe areas open world boss would need some to protect.
Also ... A player may not flag on members of the same party, raid, guild or alliance.[10]
The AoE statement: Players will be able to opt-in (via a checkbox) to allow their beneficial or non-beneficial AoEs to hit flagged players. If this is checked then AoE heals or damage will affect flagged players. If it is not checked then the AoE will not damage or heal any flagged players, and as such will not cause the caster to be flagged themselves (if they are not already).[11]
If youre green and somone atks you, you have to opt in then fight? you cant just hit them back, am i rihgt?
Its not like BDO in that fact
my understanding is: you can just hit them back with non-AoE attacks... or AoE if you enabled flagging via AoE
yes you have to flag too @cyan viper
hitting them back will flag you
^ your disagreeing with eachother
Im pretty sure you can hit them back and youll auto flag. however they will gain corruption and you will not
they will not gain corruption if you fight back
They can still hurt you but at a reduced rate that it can become a annoyance.
So..
If someone in a boos fight flags and hits ppl and becomes a combatant.. and ANYONE he hits hits him by accdient they will then ALL be autoflagged.... and its like an infection and everyone will be flagged by hitting those ppl
you can't flag people in you party, guild, raid, alliance
Open world boss fight
no, the player being attacked has a choice to attack back or not, they aren't auto flagged
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_flagging @cyan viper
it doesnt matter if its a boss fight or not, the flagging rules don't change
@craggy panther mate thats was so much easier ๐ TY
Np i figured id should look at it and refresh my self as well.
Wiki says AOE do hit combatants
Is there going to be any kind of system like treasure map or something like runescapes clue scrolls? any form of find the loot really.
So im right.. its going to be a shit show if 1 person flags at a world boss
I believe treasure maps have been confirmed.
is there already info about how performance in quests and node contribution is calculated or no info still?
@cyan viper no - where does it say that?
Non-combatants who heal, buff or otherwise interact with combatants will be flagged as combatants.[7]
Non-forced attacks (such as AoE) will not hit non-combatant players.[6] (implying that they will hit Combatants)
If you don't want to be in the shit, then make sure to be part of the group attacking a world boss. They will be balanced for 40 people and who gets loots is based off of dps done right now. So if you are just some rando running up on a world boss, expect a bad time. If you are part of a competing group, expect that group to flag on you.
expect a bad time if you are combatant flagged
Thats my point. if 1 person flags, it'll spread through a group fast
but the group won't hurt others in the group.. only the combatant outside the group
It will be turned on later, but right now for testing it is only half on. If you watch the 4k video when we are all running into the dungeon for the dragon fight there is a point where Steven stops and server messages "Please drop flag" because everyone was purple to each other of the various groups and mayhem ensued. Once everyone had died and reset, wasn't an issue.
I think the wording is just bad, if you check the aoe box you will be flagged
ahh theres a bit extra at the bottom.. it says You have to opt in to hit anyone
so checking the box is basically flagging up, same as just flagging and then attacking
I got a question: will I be able to transfer your characters to different servers?
the wording is just bad
Yea
Do we know where the castles will be located at?
probably one for each race reigion
Narrator any node
there are 5 castles
@amber crater Not initially. After a period of time ( a couple months) it will be possible for an IRL money cost and for loss of items and such. No finding a legendary unique on one server, then going to another was the example used. Will be more details when it becomes relevant.
1 central?
Unknown thanks dude
There will be 5 but the locations are known atm right?
@cyan viper not necessrly there could be one in the underrealm. We don't know their exact locations at the moment, but it will be the same on every server so once we get the full map in either A2 or beta you'll know where they will always be
Is there an achievement for one guild owning all 5 castles simultaneously? Would be probably close to impossible to achieve. Maybe for a max alliance?
The castles are initially populated by NPCs. Those are raid level and will take as much effort as it takes to level a node to metro is the plan for them to be cleared for the first guild trying to take the castle. Locations have not been shown. But since they have 20% of the nodes under their control that is set, you can guess.
You cannot have 1 guild own more then one castle @oak depot since only a guild leader can be a castle owner and you can only have 1 guild leader per guild :p
4 alliances is the max for a guild, right?
Yes, but technically they are correct. No mechanic for a single guild to own all 5 castles. No matter how mega.
@ruby swift Asmongold and his Olympus guilds...
guilds are capped at 300 members
have 5 guilds
Asmons community will go to great lengths to troll him so don't worry about them owning everything
might even be less if they cant get over 250 for the sieges
He has 10 on Wow classic
And that 300 is only if they have gimped themselves by selecting only population upgrades.
Sure, but it wouldnt be an achivement for it since the system wouldnt recognise those as the same guild
Yea
I dont think he has 10 anymore since he got rid of a lot of them or they disbanded
Also keep in mind a smaller 50 person guild with max bluffs from guild system can compete with larger ones that spec'd for size
You use Guild points for size and sutff? so the Zerg guild are going to be weaker??
Yes
nice, i like that
Think of it as a strategic more people more area.
make multiple smaller guilds, all run outside the game by one guy. this would be one way to get all the goody buffs that large guild wont have
We don't know what the default guild size will be if you spend 0 points on expension, but if spend all of them on that your members will be missing out on other buffs
Does anyone know if the bard class is gonna major impacts for groups like in lineage prophet/warcryer?
It would have to in order to be relevant
Bard will be like in tabletop with song bluffs not know if applies to all or just a area
@blissful heron we dont have a list of the bard skills but we know they are meant to be strong support characters.
The game is balanced around a group of 8 with one of each archetype so we can assume bards will be very useful
To get a idea of how a class will be like look to d&d pathfinder and such
Bards will be primarily buff support with weaker healing than a cleric. How much weaker no one knows.
Did they say that was a good reference somewhere? @last oak
speaking of classes. is "Tank" just a placeholder name for now? it really stands out
I'm looking forward to trying Scryer (Cleric/Bard). I'm betting it'll have great healing and added buff potential.
The names are what they are. Steven choose them after long deliberation (his story) and after two years of constant complaint by a vocal minority, they have not changed.
I just hope solo playing as a Bard early on (before you get into a regular party/group) won't be horrible
I assume all archetypes have some basic and sufficient capability to solo quests
nothing stops u from partying from level 1 i dont think
Bards will indeed have combat abilities
question about crafting will crafting level to the crafter or would only craft certain level items
Steven has also made it well known it was his intent to make a social and party-centric game, though. Support classes will likely have at least a 'little' bit of difficulty soloing
Unknown at this time how crafting ties to adventurer class level or if at all.
k
Do we know the answer to: "Does item deconstruction guarantee obtain the recipe to reconstruct that item or is RNG based?"
sorry, I have a list of questions I want to ask at next AMA and am not sure if this one was addressed already
we dont know the details yet @oak depot
Question arises from Deconstructing/dissassembling rare item drops from bosses can yield recipes that can be used to replicate that item.[7]
Not known whether it is guaranteed or a chance
Is the gathering/crafting activity more click and get like in WOW or is it more involved with specific skill like in FF14 ?
taken examples from the tabletop version. And what's been seen so far is why I say look to tabletop.
@short compass there was some more skill to it in 2017 when they showed a video of being able to "crit" on gathering items via clicking on a moving bar when it overlayed a specific area in the gathering bar, but it seems it might have been removed or altered since then
@oak depot
Skill-based crafting mechanics have been considered and may be a part of the final design.[20]
We did discuss that type of a feature where the skill of the crafter would grant a greater window of skill-based type crafting. So the higher master level you have of crafting a certain item, the greater your potential to impact the quality of that item might be... The concern obviously that we have when going into developing this type of system is that we don't want what is a fun - you know for lack of a better term - mini game to be something that becomes repetitive and kind of makes it monotonous... If when we start to flesh out the crafting system and we take a look at that interaction of melding crafting, the actual activity of making something, there is room in the design sheet for different iterations of that particular action; and we may see something come about that can be skill oriented, but that's something that's going to require a lot of testing and different iterations from a design standpoint.[20] โ Steven Sharif
great thanks, at least they consider thinking about making the activity not just a brainless click and get
@oak depot The QTE (quick time event) mechanic displayed during PAX gameplay was universally loathed and was immediate backlash to it. It was removed.
crafting will require thought for sure, gathering is the one I am hoping they can add something to
Some1 knows the stream topic?
Not sure if its a "good" question but i think i saw somewhere if you buy the game and your are not in the Us, example im from Europe, I dont get all the things in the pack I buy? Or Did i understde it wrong?
Like cosmetic wise and what not
what's the length of a typical dev stream?
They shoot for an hour, but often go long.
dont give them ideas to limit it to a certain amount of time
let them forget they're supposed to end it and just give us alot of info
^
[Question] Are the nodes ZOI fixed, or it can be less than "maximum", because it would overlap with the ZOI of another node of the same level?
@oak barn If you purchase from the Intrepid site you get all the things in the package. My.Games is having issues with their website and sales related to Ashes atm. If you purchase through them, many options are not available. You can always purchase on the Intrepid side as an EU customer and there will be a way to transfer everything at a later date.
[Question] Are the nodes ZOI fixed, or it can be less than "maximum", because it would overlap with the ZOI of another node of the same level?
@trim moon it can expend thats for sure and i assume there's a limit
@trim moon Node Zois grow and shrink depending on node development and follow certain terrain features when being determined.
@trim moon They are not completely fixed as if something weird happens and 2 lvl 4s are next to each other. Their ZOIs go away from each other until one gets to lvl 5.
Thanks guys!
@ruby swift whats the difference between buying from either of those?
But in that sense, if two nodes of the same level ZOIs theoretical "overlap" each other, could Node A conquer a vassal node from Node B, so that conquered node becomes part of the ZOI of Node A?
And if i can just buy it from interpid why buy from another place at all?
@oak barn None as to package contents
Their ZOIs do not "overlap" while they are the same level. But that completely changes if one were to go to lvl 5 or 3.
The idea was for EU people to have their own thing. Since as it stands right now if you play on EU servers, you will be locked to My.Games in the future.
You can play on NA as EU, you just won't be able to do both on a single account.
I see. Thanks @onyx knoll . The reason I am asking because I am thinking of buying 2 accounts if it's gonna be that valuable
Does that mean if I buy acess to alpha 2 from intrepid i can only play on the NA server?
Their ZOIs do not "overlap" while they are the same level. But that completely changes if one were to go to lvl 5 or 3.
@crisp holly But in this scenario, how would the ZOI of a node grow if it's cornered on the edge of the map? (like in the topmost-leftmost zone) Specially considering a Metropolis, that would create a very strange ZOI
Yep lol
I have a question. If we don't have snacks and drinks prepared, can we still join in on the live stream?
@blissful heron i'm not sure what the purpose would be, you won't be able to play two accounts at the same time while fighting since scripts/macros are banned and the way they described how they want bards to work it wont be hit 1 skill and stand in the back like a buff beacon for an hour, it'll be very active. So you'd be better off just finding friends to play with :P
Would make sense for the Metropolis to be able to conquer vassal nodes right? I think it would be quite awesome
In that scenario, i mean
@slow hull livestreams are snack zones only, go get popcorn now!
@oak barn No, you will be able to test A2 anywhere they have servers set up regardless. This is for live launch. The servers in Germany for A1 testing that are planned are not through My.Games as far as I know and are not locked to their launcher. @plucky pawn can correct me if wrong, but she is probably a bit busy atm getting ready for stream.
Damn pay to win livestream systems
when is the alpha?
which alpha?
coming apha
@onyx knoll @slow hull They have specifically said they don't want bard to be an archetype that you log on, get buffs and then remove from party. Their stuff will be active controlled and proximity based.
do we know anything about the eu servers is there going to be some? basically the EU community
someone told me that there wont be any EU servers or something like that
Uh, then that person is missinformed
So If i buy it i will be able to play on the alpha and betas anywhere, but in the lauch will be locked to EU?
EU servers are confirmed for release along with SEA and OCE
so EU people will be able to play right?
Yes
Sad you wont be able to play with streamers and what not :" )
what do you mean?
Like if streamers play on NA and you are EU
then play on NA
imagine wanting to play with streamers
also that.
The game you buy will be locked on reagion
I would not want to play on a same server as a streamer.
You can play on any server
I mean There are some nice, not talking about the huge ones
If you choose to play EU you will be locked to My.Games. If you play NA you will not. Currently.
However you will have to pay the NA price if you play on an NA server
Other servers will have some form of price harmonisation
This has been answered. You will not be able to play on both regions with one account.
Right, sorry, I mean, you can choose to play on any server, they are not IP banning europeans from North American servers, nut once you pick a region then you have to stick to it
yeah that was what i meant
will it be possible to play the Tulnar at the launch or will it be some sort of allied race that you need to grind to get it? ๐ฎ
Tulnar will be available at launch
my recruitment thing was removed was it because it was a duplicate?
@ruby swift But how cool would it be to incentivize going to a tavern to listen to a bard play to get a buff that lasts for a longer duration
Tulnar are meant to be there for launch. However they were a stretch goal, and stretch goals can be pushed.
I don't think you will have to unlock them in game but i'm not 100% sure
Also dont forget that the server locations have specific server prime times
Nothing has to be unlocked as to race, archetype, or gender.
Also i cant seem to find the My.games session for the game
I am confused by that. What session?
nvm found it
what is a tulnar, I am reading the wiki about it
I cant understand a think lmao
hope that you can make some sort of satyr out of the character creation then 
Oh, the website, now I get it.
on the bright side the EU version costs 40 less ๐
i think he's talking about the year price
Oh.
https://aocreation.com/en is that a new website ?
on the bright side the EU version costs 40 less ๐
@oak barn on the less bright side we have my.com as our publisher. I would much rather pay extra to have stable server
I'm confused
is it that bad?
@glad sleet you on EU?
i wonder tho if i can still play on an asian server if i have chars on NA
@crystal beacon thats my.games site
because singapore will likely have zero lags from japan, whereas NA will
yeah it will suck for us @glad sleet
thanks Lex
My experiences? Yes. Do I think we will have similar issues with ashes on EU? Yes. Do I trust Steven to sign contract that will stop them implementing P2w? Yes. Do I trust my.com to have stable and reliable servers? No
@raw shell yes
because I am also in EU
@viral lintel Yes, there is only EU and everyone else atm.
and I have no idea what they are going to do for us
Shall we go to #aoc-discussion to not spam up questions?
@oak barn we don't really know yet, we hope. because my.com has a nice reputation of fucking up all their games and have pretty much average to bad servers
sure
thank god
Man im getting sad rn
but Steven said that their contract obligate them to do all the changes on AOC EU so we're fine on that, we just need to pray for the servers to hold on @oak barn
Hope so
@onyx knoll Ohh that's ok. Was gonna put wifey behind laptop to do the work for me ๐
What is the price to purchase the additional monthly cosmetic preorder packs after already purchasing one?
Once you purchase a certain tier pack, say the $75 pack, the next cycle you would only need to pay for the new individual cosmetics, which could be $5/10/15, etc
You only pay for an entirely new pack if you choose to upgrade
Will there be voice acting in the game? if so, will it be limited or fully fleshed out?
Just limited voice acting for key quests
mainly greetings and such, although they may add voice acting at a later date after launch
Okay ty :D, got a friend with dyslexia so I'm trying to figure out what we're gonna' be working with if he needs help lol
Oh ok. I plan on buying the Voyager+ later today after I found out you can buy future cosmetics, i just wasnt a huge fan of the caravan cosmetic. Since you specified individual, I assume you can pick and choose which cosmetic you want? Say if I want a new caravan skin, i can purchase just the caravan skin thats not tied to a package?
Do you have to be a citizen of the town, or allied with the town to use player stalls or vendor shops?
@plucky copper If you buy the voyager plus pack, you unlock all tiers of future cosmetics. This means you can pick and choose which individual cosmetics you want from the next cosmetic pre-order package
Awesome! Thank you for the response!
WHat is the average wait time on a support ticket?
how does that work @steady ocean ?
@unkempt gale how does what work
the choosing cosmetics from future packages?
I just explained it
lol, i still didnt understand. do you get them all automatically? or do you get a list to choose from? i was asking about the process
You can pick and choose individual cosmetics from the tier of the packs you have already bought. If you have the voyager plus pack, you unlocked all the tiers. If you have the $75 pack, you only have that tier
Cosmetics run $5-25 depending individually
Once the next cosmetic pack is released, you can buy individual cosmetics from the tiers of pre-order you unlocked
For new individual cosmetics yes, but you will not be paying the price for the entire pack
ok, thanks
i like how everyone is crowded into English 1. why does noone ever use English 2? XD
@real dock Yes you need to be a citizen to have a player stall. You can set up a personal shop from anywhere though.
!!
ill be able to watch the stream later right?
thanks.
@steady ocean I'll rephrase. Can Lone wolves, players without citizenships, purchase goods and services from player stalls?
i would imagine so
I'd assume so
would be weird if you couldnt
@steady ocean Just crossed my mind and wanted to be sure. Sorry for my lack of clarity originally!
Yes, non citizens have access to some services, but not all.
1:30 til stream starts. ho boy
Any examples of a service not available @ruby swift ?
Think it was something related to social organizations or built structures. Would have to go looking and stream about to start.
@ruby swift No worries, thanks for the info
I have been unable to log into the official forums for about a week. Are thy aware of the issue and is there a work around or plan to fix it?
They deployed a fix recently. If you are still having issues, you can try putting in a ticket
https://aocreation.com/en#home that one? @crystal beacon
Are there plans for a Processing artisan class for being a Butcher? I feel like that seems like a natural fit
some one tell jeff to pull that horse behind him into veiw lolol


Is the development update gonna be available in youtube?
@winter moat I believe they will upload it to youtube later
yes @winter moat
one thing id like to know is with all the ambition and promises of what you all are trying to put in this game, where do you draw the line of what is considered too much content?
Great, thanks!
when the farm on that contents are too much on a daily basis i guess @rocky echo
@rocky echo That's probably a good topic for #aoc-discussion
So Alpha one is around the corner or did i inter Steven not right in stream?
End of the year is what I have seen
Will there be any ingame achievements? ๐
Slated for "late fall", earlier for some of the early backers @pale anvil
Hey I was wondering if anyone can tell me how the necromancer archetype works or more specifically how many undead you can have at one time I really want a small hoard of undead for the necromancer the thought is really exciting for me as a role player and player.
If I receive a beta key from a kickstarter can use a referal code for that person?
@quasi trench If you haven't created your account yet yes
@ancient charm I believe 3 was the max stated so far, but much is not known about summoners at this point
I'll work for free hit me up Team! this is the project!
I see a lot (/all) of the career position listed are for animation/technical. Will the studio be considering any economist positions in the future as the game matures?
@ancient charm Watch the AMA video on YouTube, Steven answered that question in that video
I really hope we can get more undead or at least that we can evolve or make those 3 undead even stronger
like maybe turn them into ghouls etc
@surreal palm You may be able to ping a dev, most of us are just normal players helping out by answering questions
@hollow plume And okay thanks for letting me know about that!
Does anyone know if there is any plans for an 'Iron Man Mode' in AOC? The lead dev mentioned the topic in one of his interviews.
@umbral crater Ooo good question
@tight gale I see a lot (/all) of the career position listed are for animation/technical. Will the studio be considering any economist positions in the future as the game matures?
Not currently, the devs are focused on the MMO aspect of the game. The majority of the world requires many people to function @umbral crater
Thanks for saving Genre guys stay positive!
Iron Man Mode? there is no single player
How can you ask a question to be answered on stream?
Forum posts or can you '@' them?
You can try asking in the stream chat and hope your question gets noticed. They are not taking questions from the forum at the moment. @wise steppe
Gotcha
@hollow plume Iron Man Mode does not specifically refer to a Single Player Game. Its a broad term to define the lack of player to player interactability in a world with many players. Take OSRS (Old School Runescape) for example. 'Iron Men' are able to complete content with other players, the defining element is the lack of trading / help between players.
@umbral crater Due to not being able to master all professions, AoC isn't Ironman friendly. If you want solo play, just ignore others.
Thats a good point, however it can be averted by having several characters on one accout can it not?
Isn't Iron Man Mode just making the game harder?
You don't need an entire game mode just to play solo @umbral crater But this would be better discussed over in #aoc-discussion
@tacit veldt Yes in a sense, it comes with inate rules.
I think Steven was asked this in one of the interviews, maybe the timthetatman one.
What pc spec is required for this game?
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@empty dragon You can read what the recommended specs for the alpha testing and get an idea at https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha_testing_system_requirements
Operating System: Windows 10 64-Bit
Processor: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz / AMD Phenom II X4 3.3GHz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 or AMD Radeon 6870 HD with 1GB and DirectX 12
Memory: 6 GB RAM
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB of available space
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Sound Card```
don't have specs for final release
i would say if you have a 970 above your probably fine
It's Unreal Engine so just look at some of the other high end games out and it will be similar
Skills can be augmented based on your secondary archetype, and also how you utilize your skill points @empty dragon
Will Taverns be the only Freehold building to give buffs? Or will Shrines also be a freehold building that players can pay into to get buffs?
Yes, I highly recommend watching some of the recent interviews with Asmongold, Summit etc. and the video from LazyPeon, most of these questions are answered there
In detail
so what would be the best secondary archetype for rogue?
@empty dragon You can probably get some ideas from #aoc-discussion
@rain hull freehold shrines will offer some benefits, but not the same benefits that a temple offers https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Shrines
i just wanna make sure ive got a understanding on this. i made a account on intrepid and i have yet to get the alpha or anything am i able to get the statue? or do i have to have the alpha or something because i have a hard time understanding thing even tho it very simple. T-T
will there be a dual sword option?
Question- class(Nightspell)example have aoe silence(JUDGMENT)does the skill change as I lvl it up change?(lvl1-(silence for 1 mint),lvl 5 -( enemy below 10% percent health instant death etc)
@pastel stratus If you bought the correct pack that grants alpha 2 access, then you will be emailed instructions when alpha two is close to release. You will receive the statue for your player owned house once the game launches
@little star Skills can be augmented based on your secondary archetype and skill point allocation
kk thx
@vagrant raptor Yes, you can dual wield one handed swords
Are they allowing In node pvp?
Does anyone know if character names will allow spaces?
@steady ocean so it will be different for everyone skill set no one will be the same right?
@uncut drift we don't have specifics, but you can have an optional last name which could act as a space
@little star The game will have a lot of variety yes
@uneven lodge I believe pvp is only allowed in a node during a node siege/war. I'll ask for a clarification though
What if you tag someone and they die from a mob , do you get corrupt ?
If they have collision enabled in node, pvp should be an option for the people standing doorways
@steady ocean Thanks for the info ๐ after the stream I will do theories for my class
@sinful nebula As I understand it, you won't become corrupted but you will be flagged for pvp
The combat system is still in development and subject to change, especially the corruption specifics
True
is there an active playtest going on?
How will healer contribution work for loot drops?
@pseudo plaza not for the general public. Alpha-1 testing (for those eligible) will become available in late fall
Loot rights depends on dps ? What about healers and tanks ? Im confused.
@steady ocean is registering on the website enough?
So I noticed that when you get off a mount you hop off and fall inside. Is there a possibility that you could hop off to like the left or the right?
Group loot is different than personal looting rules @vital flume Group loots rules would come into play at that point
@pseudo plaza No, in order to get Alpha/Beta access you need to purchase a pre-order pack on the intrepid website https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
@fast kite Those animations should be fixed by the time release comes. It's still in a testing phase so many of those issues will be worked out
aight i figured but i was just asking
isn't that for the "beta 2" phase that was last year and not running anymore? @steady ocean
will pets help you at all
are there glowing effects on enchanted weapons like in lineage 2 ?
cause i saw you can have pets
@pseudo plaza No, the beta that was open a few years ago was for Apocalypse, which was a test beta for the combat system. The MMO Beta is for the actual game
@glossy siren there will be combat pets and cosmetic pets https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pets
nice
any know what the general turn around time is for a help desk ticket to be answered?
@hearty thunder Yes, there will be animations. You can check out some concept art here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons
@timid dew That is group DPS not just yours
will the combat pets be needed, or will it just be there hitting people for like 1 damage
Hi one question. Have the normal mounts a lifespan like the flying mounts too
Is there a suggestion area at all?
@glossy siren They will probably serve more of a utility function, but we won't know for sure until the Alpha's come out and we see them in action
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@muted mortar normal ground mounts are permanent
@steady ocean thx
So as a healer, if i do an amazing job i'll be punished if my group pull mediocre dps ? I don't quite get it sorry.
@steady ocean I'm pretty confused about how that's going to work, regarding the looting system. If there is a clear description written somewhere for healer and tank contributions on both group and personal looting please point me in that direction! If there isn't one yet then I guess we'll just have to wait. ><;
@abstract panther You can post suggestions to the official forum https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/ or the AoC reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/
@timid dew If you group's loot rules are set to group loot, you will take turns getting to loot. If it is set to master loot, then the master looter determines who gets what loot. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Looting @vital flume
Is there region "auction houses" or anything? or do we really need to get to every single stall looking for something
@vital flume It literally works the same way most other MMOs do group loot
So if there are two groups fighting for a mob, healing has no bearing on who gets the loot?
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@exotic night Economic nodes at a certain tier will have an Auction House if the mayor decides to build it https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Auction_house
@timid dew Read the loot tagging section on the link Tavern posted
is aoc apocalypse the same combat as aoc
@timid ruin @vital flume Whichever group does the most damage to the mob will get the loot
So healers are essentially a detriment to looting?
@vast hamlet Apoc was the framework for the combat in AoC MMO. It has been developed further though
@vital flume Not if the NPC can kill your group
Gah I wish they did the markets and stuff like eve. can buy remotely and stuff but have to travel to actually get it
Will the militaristic BR be like a gladiator arena where people can spectate or how will that work?
@exotic night If you think about it, it's the same as going somewhere and buying it there. Both require travel. You can also buy from player stalls in any node that has them or player owned shops outside of economic nodes
It sounds like a good idea but in reality usually sucks. It just pushes 3rd party websites to browse and find it all. Look at ESO, that was just plain annoying and that has way fewer places to look
@static thistle This is what we know about the military nodes. They are still under development https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Military_nodes#Government
If I'm in NA but my friends are in EU can I still play with them if go to the EU server?
Worried this will just turn into path of exile with 3rd party website and whispering that way
okay ty
Would the bard have the ability to play instruments as in FF14? or anyone can play any instruments
@proud sorrel Yes, just be aware that all node/castle sieges will happen at their server prime times, which could be in the middle of the night for you
@tight gale Do you have any idea yet how robust the API is going to be (if you guys plan on having a public API) for developers to create third party sites/trackers for different systems? Specifically thinking at this second in terms of goods available for sale at different cities per server and if the level of detail on the API would allow for third party cataloging of that or if it's not going to be that specific.
Ah ok thx
they are of the mindset of no public API
@exotic night The devs are heavily restricting api access, so not sure if that will happen
really? that seems unfortunate to have no API at all public
Is there any info about how difficult will the game be while leveling? A lot of MMOs are braindead easy before you reach the endgame content. Will Ashes of Creation strive to be a more difficult leveling journey or will it be more casual oriented? Not talking about the time it takes but rather about the difficulty.
I mean, i get it for sure
Nor will they allow third party addons
yea i saw the addon part
@green pagoda It's hard to say for sure this early in the development phase
I was more thinking about API's for use on blogs/news as well. Maybe allowing people to tap into specific activities that occur and be able to create 'news' for each server
since each server is so different
My best friends live in Denmark and Norway so I just wanted to be sure that I can play with them.
They can do that manually through research @pastel notch
Unfortunately people will find a way. Didnt that 3rd party website for ESO (that really sucked for awhile) not use API at first? honestly cant remember exactly that far back haha
@green pagoda They mentined that leveling to max level should take 30 to 45 days playing 5 to 6 hours a day
@green pagoda given how long they said the process of leveling will be, it'll probably not be a cakewalk like most games
I understand but what is the philosophy behind the difficulty. That usually sets the bar.
@steady ocean that's very true, but really hard to have daily news in that case
the more accessible the API is the more bad actors can access it to and do things the devs don't want at all, so while it sucks it's more preventative
@proud sorrel You will be able to, just understand the challenges
Length doesn't really tell anything about the difficulty though :/
I understand the challenges
@slow sky very true. I don't disagree fundamentally on a limited API, I'm just hoping it's not fully prevented
You can discuss the API issue more in #aoc-discussion It's an interesting topic for sure
@green pagoda true that.. They showed a lvl 10ish dungeon on stream minutes ago tho, and a 3 men group of lvl 10 chars stood no chance (by steve's words)
again, it doesn't say much, but we can hope
dungeons are balanced around 8 player groups to be fair
@flat wave @green pagoda The dungeons start with easy mobs, and get significantly harder the further you go in the dungeon
@flat wave They wouldn't stand a chance because group content is tuned for an 8 man group
Fireball castable under water?
You can ask other people opinion's on game difficulty in #aoc-discussion Please keep the this chat to specific questions.
yeah i know about 8 man group, but if a 5 men dungeon can be done "easily" in some mmos by a solo player this gives some hope for more difficuly? maybe? ๐
Please keep this channel to Questions and Answers only. If youโre passionate about further discussion feel free to move to the lovely discussion channels #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion Thank you. 
@flat wave @steady ocean Good to hear ๐ At least that's better than it being a cakewalk. But I'm still more interested about the solo content. What you do outside the world. Killing mobs doing quests. I hope you cannot simply spam one button to melt everything.
Does this game plan on trying to implement Dynamic Gear crafting or is it maintaining static gear?
both @sinful echo Materials will be needed to both craft new gear and repair current gear
Hi , i'm new to the AoC discord. I've got a question - will the final product when released be ONLY playable on Windows ? Or would it be accessible for Mac/Apple users as well ?
that doesn't really answer my question @steady ocean
Perhaps you could rephrase your question
@sinful echo Could you elaborate on the question
idk if other people have a different term for what i asked by that's the easiest way to phrase it imo
Peeps, how many classes are planned?
like...crafting will be a static blueprint or a craft stat x blueprint % thing
When would be the cut off date for A2? With purchase of Voyager Pre-Order Package
@full scroll 64
Do you mean you have to do actions while crafting to get better results ? @sinful echo
