Sorry don’t know the correct terms
#questions
patent zealot
Oh they basically said that there is no level gap buffs/debuffs
pliant ocean
No addons.
umbral laurel
they just hired an new UI guy, and it is promising, they want to allow a lot of customization in the UI
pseudo merlin
@lucid igloo there is no doubt that there will be eventually a meta found. eventually someones gonna figure out the best stats and skills to level up, but not very quickly after launch
patent zealot
So just because someone is 10 levels higher it doesn't mean your attacks do less damage
low lantern
There’s over 40 hours from all their live-streams that might be on the wiki
silent island
So low level ppl can fight with high level ppl with a chance of winning?
patent zealot
Yes
lucid igloo
@silent island that was in reference to games like WoW where if youre fighting something much higher lvl than you their resistances are so high that the 1000 damage only does like 10 or gets resisted entirely
pseudo merlin
yes in this game the focus will be mostly on player skill
abstract panther
So I'm guessing meters will probably be baked in?
pseudo merlin
Steven said in an earlier interview that 70 percent of winning comes from one's own skill, 30 percent from gear and stats
pliant ocean
There will be no DPS meter
silent island
So there will be no resistance gain from levering up
patent zealot
Rewards are distributed DPS wise though, what was the reasoning for the lack of a meter?
umbral laurel
metering is a way to cause elitist and filter out players. this game is about the community
lucid igloo
not in the traditional sense it seems not
patent zealot
Oh I see
pseudo merlin
@silent island maybe a tiny bit. remember, 30 percent of winning still comes from stats and gear.
silent island
ok thanks for answering guys
abstract panther
Ahhh good to know.
patent zealot
Enough levels/stats can still form an insurmountable gap right?
Like no matter how skillful, a level 1 should not beat a lv50
Its just that he said
5-10 levels you can overcome or something?
lucid igloo
@patent zealot for instance in WoW if you have a rogue thats not doing what the group considers "enough damage" theyll just kick you and fond someone else but in this game seems like rogues and many other classes will have important utility needed that outweighs the lack of DPS in some situations
umbral laurel
in that regards, due to augments, technically yes level will matter, but it mostly comes down to skil>gear/quality
abstract panther
There will be non-humanoid races right? i.e Tauren in Wow
lucid igloo
@abstract panther yeah
half zealot
question: if i buy the pro-order-packages, i will be able to play instantly?
pseudo merlin
yes, there will be elves, dwarves and tulnar
half zealot
*pre
patent zealot
Wait there are non-humanoid races?
pseudo merlin
Tulnar are a mix between humans and...other animals
patent zealot
All the races I saw were humanoid
lucid igloo
@half zealot youll be able to play whenever they launch the phase of the pre order you buy
pseudo merlin
they could somehow procreate with each other because of magic after Verra was overcome by the corruption
half zealot
ah, ok. the pre order is not live yet?
lucid igloo
its live but the stages that allow gameplay arent
half zealot
ok, cool. thanks for the help
abstract panther
Cool. Its always a bummer when races pretty much look the same. Yeah I saw the races too and I wasn't sure if that was what they actually were or changed
wide gale
@static jay store packages are limited time exlusives and they will not return in the future also those types of questions isnt meant for #community-media channel
lucid igloo
@half zealot like if you bought the alpha 1 key youll be able to play probably in the fall but theyre still in pre alpha still
pseudo merlin
this isnt community media channel
wide gale
Look at the channel / post
umbral laurel
pre ordering is on their site, they are in pre alpha, alpha 1 is expected this fall, and there is no timeline passed that. they said they will announce when alpha 2 access will be going away from purchase packs
pseudo merlin
let's keep the trolling somewhere else. the people here already have questions, lets not confuse them even more @wide gale
silent island
Is group finder a bad thing?
wide gale
?
pseudo merlin
group finder is a bad thing
silent island
Why did they exclude it?
wide gale
@pseudo merlin hows that trolling?
pseudo merlin
it discourages community coming together and making friends from events
patent zealot
exactly
silent island
Ohh
abstract panther
YES! They destroy the community. Alienation
patent zealot
You just queue up and play through with a random
lucid igloo
@silent island mainly because it feels like matchmaking at that rate and its less about meeting people out in the world
patent zealot
Then never meet them again
stone walrus
majority of dungeons are not instanced, but free to enter as "caves"
so it doesn't make sense for finder
silent island
Ok yea I never thought about that
pseudo merlin
there is no world chat or fast travel across the world either so you can only group with people close by
wide gale
@pseudo merlin 
stone walrus
since you can stroll in/out as you please
pseudo merlin
some of the dungeons ARE instanced though
lucid igloo
it also removes the need tro hold any kind of reputation
stone walrus
dungeons resemble Lineage2 dungeon types
abstract panther
I wouldn't mind an LFG if it required rare materials and it was only with people within a certain distance form you.
pseudo merlin
then you will have to go through with a party of five to eight
abstract panther
Something you couldn't do regularly.
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
patent zealot
Are dungeons only going to be 8/16/40 or will there also be possible solo/duo/trio dungeons?
pseudo merlin
dungeon content would be too hard to do by yourself
Steven said himself that dungeons are not supposed to be easy and will require extensive preparation so the rewards are more exclusive
lucid igloo
@patent zealot since the content doesnt scale you could theoretically go back and do lower lvl content solo or duo i dont see why not
stone walrus
you can duo a 40 man dungeon, if you feel like, degree of success might vary
patent zealot
But no dungeons aimed at smaller groups.
lucid igloo
not that small of one anyhow
pseudo merlin
for smaller groups they should be able to meet up and recruit other players going for the same dungeon in taverns
stone walrus
you need to look at AOC dungeons as additional farming spots with more dificulty, not dungeons per say
abstract panther
Is XP gained purely through combat or will everything give you some sort of XP?
lucid igloo
since itll be much more populated than people think i wonder how the dynamic respawn timings will work out or if there is layering at all
pseudo merlin
@abstract panther exploration and crafting will also net experience
also unique world events taht may pop up from time to time
silent island
Is 8000 to 10000 players on a server normal for a mmo
stone walrus
yes
pseudo merlin
@silent island i think in this day and age, yes
and keep in mind this is concurrent players
registered viewers per server can reach up to 50000
silent island
Oh ok
cinder shadow
will they impliment a photo mode like in BDO?
abstract panther
Gear dyes for transmog?
pliant ocean
We will have the ability to slightly alter gear. To what extend, it is unknown right now. But Dyes are likely a thing.
split zenith
I heard you can customize armor down to even the straps holding it together
patent zealot
I can only get 1-2 friends in at most since my friends mainly play FPS games, but I don't think it'll be that bad since the game encourages getting together and grouping. It shouldn't be too difficult to find other people to play through the game.
Especially since you are most likely going to act around a local node that you are a citizen of
lapis shard
@patent zealot exactly, tons of people will be looking for groups on launch too
lucid igloo
@patent zealot you should check out the #aoc-guild-recruitment tab
pseudo merlin
@cinder shadow not much about the UI is known at the moment since it is only a placeholder. intrepid just hired a UI designer though so expct more details in the future
pliant ocean
If you are looking for a guild and are NA, you could try joining Weeping Willow.
pseudo merlin
@patent zealot this game is literally built to encourage you to make friends
silent island
That’s great
lucid igloo
@pliant ocean do you guys have a discord link?
silent island
I’m worried about the server population in sea
pliant ocean
abstract panther
Any word on if abilities will interact with other player's. Like applying a freeze as a caster and having a melee shatter it. Something like that?
pseudo merlin
unfortunately no
lapis shard
there's no server restrictions per region so you can join any server but you'll have to deal with ping @silent island
pseudo merlin
@abstract panther at this point, little to nothing is known abut individual classes and their aabiliites
silent island
That’s disappointing
pseudo merlin
but what i can tell you is in APOC testing, abilities never negated one another
patent zealot
It was mentioned that your own abilities interact and are complimentary toward each other such as if the target is bleeding get this bonus with this ability, and you have another ability that causes a bleed. So they will probably interact if someone else causes a bleed, but maybe not in the way you imagine it.
abstract panther
Fair enough. Thought maybe something was said regarding that with combat discussions
full badger
I’m in SEA
@silent island SEA servers are planned for launch
pseudo merlin
nobody is reading his question. Fleonex's question was whether there was a way to join NA or EU servers from SEA without high ping
lapis shard
move to EU/NA :/
lucid igloo
get fiber internet lol
patent zealot
I think its just whether Fleonex can get a provider that is accessible in his area with low ping. Its not really a software problem.
pseudo merlin
i dont htink that will help much though
silent island
Yeah I understand
Thank you for your answers
Will alpha 1 be available to every registered user?
full badger
Only to people who have bought packs with alpha 1 access
pseudo merlin
steven has mentioned the possibility of opening Alpha 1 access again if testing goes well
lapis shard
I really hope he does 
pseudo merlin
if you are a registered viewer, keep your eyes out for any news on if and when alpha 1 packs are available again
you should automatically be signed up for intrepid's newsletter/mailing list
velvet ruin
are we going to have SEA/oceanic channels here?
pseudo merlin
if they are available again, be prepared to dish out 500 USD
silent island
Haha
random cobalt
got multiple questions considering science node mayor elections:
Is it known if it's a pure 1 vote per citizen? or do people with more contribution to the node have a higher influence? Can alts vote as well? Mostly concerned for (mainly bigger guilds) alt/new accounts swarming science nodes, especially if they are close to the race spawns.
pseudo merlin
this is what the pack cost before it went outof the shop
full badger
are we going to have SEA/oceanic channels here?
@velvet ruin they don't want to add anymore channels to the discord right now
lavish slate
Quick question. So i know the game will be subscription based but will there be a free starter think like WOW has? Like where you can rank through some beginning levels for free to see if you enjoy it?
full badger
Quick question. So i know the game will be subscription based but will there be a free starter think like WOW has? Like where you can rank through some beginning levels for free to see if you enjoy it?
@lavish slate There are currently no plans for a free trial
pseudo merlin
@random cobalt at this point not much is known about the scientific node
stay tuned for further details
lavish slate
Ok thanks hopefully there will be eventually.
silent island
Are castles and guild halls the same thing?
merry sun
is there a way to type in voice channels in discord?
pseudo merlin
@silent island they aren't
there are only 5 castles in the game taht can be contested by different guilds
the guild that takes over a castle will have an important foothold in the economy of that region
guild halls can be located all throughout the game on freehold plots
formal abyss
Are there details on transaction recites/contribution histories planed? For instance a log of people contribution to a building or sales of a caravan.
full badger
Are there details on transaction recites/contribution histories planed? For instance a log of people contribution to a building or sales of a caravan.
@formal abyss Each server will contain a library detailing the events on the server. But we don't know how detailed this will be
bronze current
Q: Was watching the June dev update and looking at the village node it has a square border. Was wondering if there are more unique node layouts. Something like curves and the like which give more unique shapes.
full badger
Q: Was watching the June dev update and looking at the village node it has a square border. Was wondering if there are more unique node layouts. Something like curves and the like which give more unique shapes.
@bronze current We don't know yet
teal mantle
Can a guild own multiple castles and metropolis? Is there a limit so 1 guild doesn't end up controlling a server?
pseudo merlin
@tough furnace you cannot 'own' a metropolis as a guild
you can be a patron guild to the metropolis but the owner will still be the mayor
silent island
Won’t the mayor and guild be related in many cases
pseudo merlin
and metropoli can have up to 3 patron guilds in the city so there can be no monopoly or power abuse
not necessarily
@silent island the election process for each node is different, first of all
silent island
Oh yea
random cobalt
can you become the "pope" of a religion? or can the highest attainable title be acquired by multiple players?
pseudo merlin
second of all, being a guild master or a mayor in the game will be the equivalent of doing a full time job according to Steven
it wont be possible to have time to have both positions
@random cobalt no, religious leaders are all NPCs to avoid conflict of interest
full badger
can you become the "pope" of a religion? or can the highest attainable title be acquired by multiple players?
@random cobalt The best you'd get is becoming the mayor of a divine node
silent island
I heard Steven say that the gear crafted by players are equivalent to legendary drops
Isn’t that kind of broken
pseudo merlin
if the players' crafting level is high enough, yes
but keep in mind though, those kind of items will be difficult to craft with hard to get ingredients
full badger
That crafted gear will require legendary materials dropped from legendary bosses
pseudo merlin
and there will also be a high chance of failure
silent island
Failure?
random cobalt
legendary crafted stuff is equal, which requires legendary materials etc
umbral laurel
for crafted gear, you need to get mats from those legendary bosses, then go through a large process to get it, and other limitations such as success, it will take a while
pseudo merlin
as in the gear will either turn out to be inferior, or simply the crafter fails
pseudo merlin
yes, and it is difficult to become master craftsman in the first place
silent island
And another balancing doubt
There 64 classes with each class having multiple skills and each skills having 4 modifications
Is it even possible to balance that
full badger
That's why we have testing phases
random cobalt
8 classes with skills, that have 8 different types of 4 modification things. the second class doesn't give extra skills
teal mantle
Thanks for answering all our questions btw, you must've been working overtime lately
pseudo merlin
to gather what?
silent island
I meant like lumberjacking or fishing or something like that
It’s possible to do that full time right
pseudo merlin
those activities can be done solo
and yes, achieving master craftsman (one of the endgame goals) is also a full-time thing
silent island
Oh okk
Corruption is only gained if the person doesn’t fight back right
Or for Everytime you kill someone
pseudo merlin
no
there is a chart to answer your question
being flagged for pvp and corruption are not the same thing btw
that is the purple 'combatant' you see in this chart
pseudo merlin
no problem!
feel free to check out my guild, Virtue too for information
the guild leader is one of the earliest backers of the game and regularly makes content videos discussing mechanics such as these
hallow mantle
Hey guys, are there any infos on the instanced arena matches yet? Kinda searching for something that scratches this wow arena itch. Maybe I'm wrong here if so sorry.
full badger
All we know is that there will be arenas for 1v1 3v3 and 5v5
And leaderboards for each
Oh, and 20-man FFA mode
crystal beacon
how hard will it be to make money in ashes hope it nothing like bdo in the since in bdo you can make billions per week hope its a lot less in this one
full badger
how hard will it be to make money in ashes hope it nothing like bdo in the since in bdo you can make billions per week hope its a lot less in this one
@crystal beacon Intrepid are very aware of the problems with inflation and have systems to combat it. Other than that, we'll have to see what happens in testing
crystal beacon
Is there any class gameplay other than mage ?
full badger
Is there any class gameplay other than mage ?
@crystal beacon We've seen stuff from the tank and the cleric too
slow sky
Predator (rogue/ranger) and thats about all i know
solid helm
Will there be in game gambling ? roulette blackjack etc ?
slow sky
Maybe not those specifically but there will be games of chance in taverns
full badger
There will be parlour games, but we have no details on them yet
solid helm
i see ty for info
pseudo merlin
@full badger I was wondering why your name looks familiar. You’re Simurghs costar in his LFM podcast
bronze current
Q: Did they confirm pets in the game? Would they have functionality in the form of picking up loot etc.
full badger
Q: Did they confirm pets in the game? Would they have functionality in the form of picking up loot etc.
@bronze current Yes, combat pets confirmed
pseudo merlin
They confirmed pets for cosmetic purposes except for some classes
Then they will have combat abilities
full badger
@bronze current https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pets
bronze current
^ oh ty
full badger
afaik every class can tame pets for battle
pseudo merlin
Oh really?
full badger
Yeah, it's part of the taming profession
pseudo merlin
Aah thanks for updating me
silent island
@pseudo merlin i really want to join ur guild but unfortunately it is based in NA
Too bad
marble basin
@static jay That stuff you linked in the community media channel was last months set. No longer available
main panther
Hi, as a Content Creator can I use AoC Gameplays / Video on youtube ?
grim breach
Not right now, A1 will have no NDA. A1 have not started yet
misty condor
most people use the clips so you should be fine
grim breach
Those are publicly released clips.
misty condor
but for NDA scape is right
main panther
Yeah no, but like the video of The Lazy Peon :p Because in french we don't have that :p and French People don't want to learn English xD
misty condor
ask Lazy Peon or use the main video
grim breach
If you are referring to the gameplay clips Peon used, those are all public clips. You can use them. But if you want to use his video, you have to ask him.
misty condor
^
slow sky
could always just add french subs to peon's vid
misty condor
then use the public one and you are fine
limber tendon
Hey guys, did anyone understand the "champion" mechanic where you send the champion into the last man standing mode in order to be elected in a military ward. Is it an npc that you gear up or what exactly?
I meant node dont know why i called it ward lol
main ridge
It's not been entirely completed so we can only speculate based on what was told to us (this is of course subject to change), but from what I understood, it is an avatar of your character without the class that is leveled up through certain tasks.
misty condor
i wish i can fight
misty condor
i hope they make it BR style
so the best fighter can become mayor
in the end its pvp node
main ridge
We don't know what skills the avatar will have access to specifically, but everyone's avatar will probably have the same base configuration in terms of stats.
limber tendon
That sounds fun
viral lintel
i hope its automatic and i can click a "skip to result" button
misty condor
automatic?
viral lintel
automatic
grim breach
We don't exactly know yet. Military and Divine nodes are two of the node types that we have very little info of. I think it's along the lines of another character that you can choose or make to fight, instead of your own character. Previously it was your own character, but they want a level playing field.
An idea currently under consideration is to have players build out a champion that they can then fight in the arena, rather then using their regular characters. These champions can be equipped with gear and skills via quests, along with materials and gold to make the champion stronger.[8]
viral lintel
it should be fixed because you dont like it? what you dont like is broken?
how about you make your own game then?
misty condor
no im okay like that but i think it will be better if its fixed
main ridge
i hope they make it BR style
@misty condor All we can hope is that it is not BR style, as it would be extremely easy to abuse and the streamers would control those nodes in addition to already being able to control the economic (people give them money) and scientific (popularity contest) nodes.
misty condor
1v1 duels like tournament style?
misty condor
so the br is staying the most valued option
limber tendon
I find it to be the best idea as it is now
misty condor
except if not everybody can apply for mayor
craggy harness
In the interview Steven mentioned freeholds will allow skills to give buffs. E.g I could make a tavern and anyone who eats food there will get a better buff if they stay in the area. Will this extend to the other professions? For example can I build a workshop in my freehold that would give bonuses to players who repair their gear and stay around my area
scenic agate
Does anyone know, if I buy the cosmetic skins in shop atm - Is it then only for the Orc races? Or how will that work?
viral lintel
like i said, i would like it to be instant. click button "skip to result", bam, next customer. but i'll take whatever. not deluded to think what i dont like is "broken" and needs to be "fixed".
grim breach
They're for all races.
misty condor
andi i have no idea wtf you talking
grim breach
It's not gonna be NPC champions.
lyric glade
what about pvp in city?
blazing wharf
Ok super stupid question about the mayoral system but how are taxable funds accessed by the mayor? Can he/she run off with all the tax income or distribute it among the citizens as a sudo UBI. All in all just wanted to know the depth of player management systems.
idle sleet
was it anywhere mentioned when we can expect Beta? I'm super excited to try it out
idle sleet
thanks!
lyric glade
alpha 2 > beta 0 > 1 > 2
idle sleet
so it's long way from us trying out
lyric glade
heard something like 2-3 years +
idle sleet
then i better look for different mmo meantime 😄
misty condor
^
grim breach
@blazing wharf You cannot withdraw taxes. Taxes can only be used for node development. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Taxes
blazing wharf
hmm that honestly kinda makes me sad, I've been dying to see what happens if an economic system had the possibility of adopting some of the weirder economic models and a virtual one with a population of ~ 1000 - ~2000 people would be great for statistical research
misty condor
haha
blazing wharf
but then if a mayor was caught siphoning funds you could boycot services in the node or get a group together to node siege
grim breach
But you will lose that node as well on successful siege
blazing wharf
yep but you have to take into account the extremes
someone loses a ton of gold, gets mad, gets a group together large enough to siege and there you go
You cannot have a great community that is built around uneasy trust if you don't allow the systems to be open ended
if all the mayor can do is progress the node then the only thing that would suck is tax rate for buisnesses
opaque pivot
The biggest struggle here is you loose and only loose and the mayor wins anyways, except for reputation
blazing wharf
but that still contributes to node progress so shrugs
opaque pivot
If you wanted that you'd havebto change the mayor election system
blazing wharf
well then you've gotta interact with the community and that's still a net positive
look you don't have to change the mayor system at all
versed hollow
#aoc-discussion is available if you want to continue this discussion, please keep this channel for questions
blazing wharf
ty @versed hollow
wet escarp
is it true that the game most likely will be fully polished and ready for launch within 3-4 years
weak heron
Is there anything at all special in the store after purchasing? I heard there are some extra cosmetics? Ive been waiting for a month where I like the cosmetic sets but wondering if im missing out on other things
tough sierra
For caravan runs carrying player supplies, will the goal of attackers be to 'destroy' the caravan by attacking it directly or by killing all those who defend it?
weak heron
@wet escarp id say so. Its not far fetched to say 2 years as a push
versed hollow
@wet escarp a release date is unknown, but likely to take another 2 or 3 years
grim breach
@tough sierra The caravan itself
versed hollow
@weak heron the packs in the shop usually rotate the cosmetics monthly, but you will only get the cosmetics in the month that you back. when they swap, you will have the ability to purchase the cosmetics separately to add to your account
tough sierra
is there a limit to the amount of people able to attack/defend a caravan at once?
such as with node sieges having a max of 250 people
on each side
grim breach
Don't know, it's open world
weak heron
@versed hollow but nothing extra other than monthly changing cosmetics?
tough sierra
Will there be a way to 'heal' or repair the caravan
untold zephyr
@tough sierra no limit has been set yet
versed hollow
@weak heron no
weak heron
Okay thought so ty
grim breach
250v250 is castle siege. No numbers on node sieges.
Not sure about fixing or repairing caravans.
untold zephyr
They are confident in the system being able to handle 250 v 250 at the moment but are looking to push it to 500 v 500
untold zephyr
They have tested it
stone walrus
they tested it in apoc
tough sierra
was it fluid/non-laggy?
frigid edge
If you combat flag while in a group will the whole group flag?
main ridge
APOC wasn't really a test of the combat itself, but rather for optimization and other things
to answer your questions though, it wasn't very fluid, no
boreal abyss
@frigid edge Not as far as we know no
frigid edge
Thank you
silent island
Is the world in aoc a globe or a flat map
grim breach
Not decided yet
frigid edge
I'm curious to know how the people who have been following AOC for a long time feel about the recent influx of hype/interest and new people.
main ridge
Is the world in aoc a globe or a flat map
@silent island It's not going to be connected because they wouldn't be able to add in expansions
versed hollow
@frigid edge it's a good thing for the game, a high population will make sure that there will be more conflict of interest in the game, making the game exactly what the dev want it to me
@silent island World map is flat like normal
silent island
Oh ok thanks
opaque pivot
Render distance = horizon just like irl
thorn wing
Regarding the most important character creating slider. How big does it get? (But tbh does character customization affect any in-game stuff?)
tough sierra
if its anything like real life the world will be a flat map
solid swan
Hello, I'm new and I tried to find as much as I could on Reddit and Google about the races, right now,
I only saw 2 races gameplay, so orcs are still not available to share a character creation and see them right?
When are they planning to launch the game? End of this year? On AoC web site the calendar plan doesn't say anything about it, Only betas.
lilac lion
@solid swan game wont be released until possibly 2022
Game is still in prealpha
And all graphics will get “much much” better
Alpha 1 is later this year
Is the only date we know of
solid swan
@lilac lion dam , I was expecting it sooner. Only because from what I saw on videos it seemed nice, I don't know how much work it still needs.
This game will take long time to launch then :0
Still, seems a very good game, can't wait to try it when possible.
:) Thank you for the answer
tough sierra
How much ability will the players/mayors/guilds have to terraform the world? Such as creating a pass through the snowy mountains to connect easier to the rest of the world
spiral plaza
Question regarding node development: Does the mayor system work prior to the node becoming a metropolis? Meaning, can you for instance influence the structure/composition of a smaller village in the mountains which you progress with only a small group or community of friends? Or do smaller lvl nodes pretty much hold the same infrastructure, just different in terms of race visuals? Cheers
frigid edge
@spiral plaza I believe the mayoral system starts when a node reaches stage 3. I'm new though so take it with a grain of salt.
versed hollow
@spiral plaza You can become a Mayor when a node reaches the Village stage, but there is a 1 week cooldown before the first mayor is elected https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_elections
spiral plaza
@frigid edge @versed hollow Ok cool, thanks a bunch 🙂
lapis shard
TheLazyPeon made a really good video about my.com in relation to Ashes, highly recommend checking it out
silent island
@lapis shard ok I will rn
versed hollow
@silent island As part of the agreement with intrepid, they will not be making any changes at all, they will doing localisation and be the portal for EU
pliant ocean
The internet being unjustified? surprise pikachu face
silent island
Lol
versed hollow
@silent island Intrepid will maintain 100% creative control over Ashes and our partners My.com and Mail.ru shares our vision for Ashes, as this was very important to us. This means our stance on p2w for the game. This partnership allows us as a Studios to focus on the development of the game and allows us to feel comfortable with the level of service that we know my.com and Mail.ru can provide our glorious community. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Payment_model#Publishers
lapis shard
My.com in the past didn't have the best reputation, that's why a lot of people were sceptical.
versed hollow
@shy sluice lots of people have had bad experiences with My.com, but that can be said for quite a few publishers
solid swan
Many ppl are still sceptical to mycom, specially because of the last game, conquerors blade.
ruby swift
Because My.Games doesn't care about spending money on Ashes atm. They are the EU publisher. They have no game to publish.
silent island
As long as intrepid are in control will that be a problem
ruby swift
Means that they don't bother to spend the money to fix the shop.
tough sierra
my.com is known for having an absolute dogshit response time to issues, so if your account gets hacked or you get falsely banned dont expect a response
versed hollow
lesser evil
frigid edge
(In my experience) Historically speaking, game publishers almost always affect a game negatively, as far as player experience is concerned. Usually the most greedy and egregious moves as far as monetization come from the publisher and not the dev. So even though Intrepid have kept 100% creative control people are usually still very leery of a publisher getting involved in any facet.
tough sierra
publishing in EU isnt as easy as it is in the US, since theyre a small company that's never released anything they just had to partner with whoever would take them @silent island
junior sky
I don't think you should condemn the idea of them actually doing a good job. I am sure my.com has had some issues in the past but that doesn't mean it's gonna stay that way
slow sky
They were the only publishers willing to take on Ashes for EU without cash shop control
shy sluice
Well what's intrepid going to do about it is more the question. This "issue" has been some time now. People can't buy or upgrade a pledge
tough sierra
They cant do much about it, if the game pops off and goes huge they can probably switch publishers though
versed hollow
@silent island the main thing is that My.com will handle all the legal stuff that you need to publish in the EU, of which they have it all set up already
silent island
I guess we have a lot of time to raise the issues with intrepid
tough sierra
its not an issue in the sense it can be fixed
tough sierra
it's just something that will have to be dealt with
silent island
And ruin the experience
frigid edge
Intrepid keeping total creative control is the key in this situation that separates it from most other similar situations.
versed hollow
@frigid edge @silent island Intrepid DO have 100% creative control, and 100% control on the cash shop too
sharp flax
my.com don't put money in the game development so they can't go and ask whatever they want i think
late mortar
Does anyone know how banking will work between nodes or even between regions? (excluding non-bankable items like materials)
Are items stored in my bank from one node/region going to be accessible from another?
versed hollow
@sharp flax yes, Steven is the ONLY shareholder, My.com are a publisher is the literal sense, they are publishing the game and nothing else
pliant ocean
late mortar
sharp flax
@sharp flax yes, Steven is the ONLY shareholder, My.com are a publisher is the literal sense, they are publishing the game and nothing else
@versed hollow exactly, they don't invest in the game, they purely publish the game and even there they will get money from this, so really not a big deal i think
silent island
Is intrepid Incharge of marketing too?
pliant ocean
Intrepid is in charge of everything. Including your soul. 
versed hollow
@late mortar Storage is going to be location based. Banking between characters will likely be restricted to Furniture and completed items, and A warehouse ability may enable a player to transfer non-material goods between alternate characters. This excludes resources, materials or anything that relies on the caravan system. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Economy#Banking
sharp flax
steven don't have to answer to shareholders so a publisher will not fuck around with the game, they don't have any real control over the studio really
austere vault
my.com is known for having an absolute dogshit response time to issues, so if your account gets hacked or you get falsely banned dont expect a response
@tough sierra by the GDPR law they are enforced to do whatever they can to secure your data. This also includes having a better customer support than what was displayed pre 2018
waxen heart
do the races have different hitboxes acording to size?
tough sierra
@austere vault and EA isnt allowed to have gambling in their games, yet here we are
silent island
do the races have different hitboxes acording to size?
@waxen heart from the gameplay footage yes dwarves have smaller hit boxes
pliant ocean
Something was briefly mentioned about Dunir being short and being able to dodge some attacks.
austere vault
@austere vault and EA isnt allowed to have gambling in their games, yet here we are
@tough sierra not sure how that is relevant?...
waxen heart
@waxen heart from the gameplay footage yes dwarves have smaller hit boxes
@silent island ok, do they have anny system that makes it so not eveyone intrested in pvp making dwarfs?
steep mist
What is the 15% referral for? The subscription or the microtransactions?
austere vault
Sub
frigid edge
Dwarves = Oddjob
late mortar
@versed hollow when you say "location based".. does that mean i cannot withdraw for example an armour set from a different bank of which it was deposited? 😮
silent island
@silent island ok, do they have anny system that makes it so not eveyone intrested in pvp making dwarfs?
@waxen heart tab targeting hits them regardless of hit boxes
pliant ocean
I'm sure they are looking into balancing the Dunir thing.
stone walrus
smaller hitbox also means smaller hands, which means less reach with attacks?
tough sierra
@tough sierra not sure how that is relevant?...
@austere vault 'everything they can to secure your data' doesnt take away from the history of the company
versed hollow
@late mortar similar to how Black Desert Online does it, you're storage is in that town, and only that town
late mortar
@versed hollow understood 
thank you ❤️
opaque laurel
austere vault
I think you need to read up on what my.com has access to when it comes to the game. That is absolutely nada. Intrepid has all the creative control and they have secured a deal with my.com which favors intrepid and the EU players. If you don't trust intrepid then you don't have to play ashes @tough sierra
tough sierra
@austere vault I wasnt talking about intrepid mate, i was talking about my.com not being good when it comes to customer support and communication
take this to #aoc-discussion if you want to continue this
silent island
Which stage of development focuses or improving graphics and animations?
Rough estimate is fine like last
grim breach
Don't know
silent island
Ok
tough sierra
Graphics are a pretty late issue in regards to normal game development
making sure everything works inside the body before slapping the skin on, and such
karmic wave
Will there be quests that are completely unique and original to some specific nodes, or are all of them randomly generated?
orchid willow
Graphics and animations are generally slowly improved through the entire development process
worthy scarab
What all has been tested in alpha 0/ pre alpha? Just curious how far a long the development actually is with all the systems
versed hollow
@undone prairie it like likely be the first 250 to sign up
orchid willow
Steven dodged the question when summit asked how much was actually done. The goal for alpha 1 is 20% of the map though @worthy scarab
pliant ocean
@worthy scarab Right now they are testing how well a server will hold up to high amounts of traffic. And Bug fixing/ getting ready for the Alpha 1 Launcher.
karmic wave
it will be instanced, probably
orchid willow
You can just place a big dome around the city and port out everyone that isn’t involved. No need to instance it, and no access to the city while under siege
worthy scarab
Oof 20%, I was thinking it was further a long because I read that it was actually suppose to launch last year...still catching up in all the history
versed hollow
@undone prairie Sieges don't use the PvP flagging system. so likely that they can't interfere
pliant ocean
I wonder if they will have things in place to prevent an allying guild from signing up as an attacker in sieges and then purposely throwing.
lilac lion
250v250 is already intensive as is. They wont have random people walkin around so 100% instanced
@pliant ocean it takes a huge amount of resources to declare a siege
versed hollow
@pliant ocean Allied guilds can't sign up to fight against a node you are supporting
lilac lion
So unless they want to use a shit ton of resources everytime, it wont happen
pliant ocean
It's better than losing an entire metropolis.
versed hollow
@lilac lion the battles will NOT be instanced, but they are butting in measures to help performance. They are already very confident that 250 vs 250 fights can go ahead, and they are working towards making the fights 500 vs 500
lilac lion
You sure 250v250 wont be instanced? I may have read wrong then
.< need to brush up on that
orchid willow
250v250 is already very impressive on unity. I doubt they manage much more than that
tough sierra
is the game on the unity engine?
slow sky
They’re not on unity
silent island
@orchid willow they mentioned they are going to try and implement 500v500
versed hollow
@orchid willow they are not using Unity, they are using Unreal 4
slow sky
They’re using Unreal 4
silent island
And they are in unreal 4
orchid willow
My statement still stands 🙂
slow sky
Not really
orchid willow
Name one unreal 4 game handling 500 player battles
silent island
They have lead Devs from planet side 2 which accomplished more than that in 2012
versed hollow
@orchid willow They have programmers from Planetside 2, a game that has VERY large battles going on. The network system is being coded themselves to support the higher player count
uneven lodge
Yes but they the forgelight engine to accomplish that
uneven lodge
I was wondering if they are going to incentivise following officer\leaders during sieges? Like you get more rewards for accomplishing the task they have selected during the battle?
uneven lodge
What's stopping people from just going solo in a group battle? And losing as aresult
lilac lion
Well if they going solo, the guild leader made a poor choice in making them officers. It all comes down to coordination and organization and communication during sieges
Thats the guild leaders fault at the end of the day
versed hollow
@uneven lodge the biggest incentive in defending the node will be not having your stuff destroyed. If the city falls, then the attacking side has a 2 hour window to go and attack your freehold, stealing some of the items you hold there.
orchid willow
If sieges are first to sign up, and getting a siege scroll takes a long time to farm, then I can’t imagine guilds would risk letting randoms sign up. They would schedule 250 people before even dropping it?
uneven lodge
I did not know it was first to sign up, I figured it was just an event that happened. Where multiple battles took place and which ever side won the most wins?
orchid willow
I’m not sure they’d said how they decide who gets to participate
versed hollow
@orchid willow guilds do not control nodes, only a Citizen can become the mayor. There will likely be "reserved" slots for members of Patron guilds that have supported the node though
vivid sparrow
Does anyone know if the current AoC pre-order packs are limited? like are they going to stop selling them when they have enough people in the alpha 2 test phase etc, as i'm really interested in this game and i am thinking of buying into the alpha 2 test phase but i wanted to wait some more time to hear more info and updates before making the decision of spending £200 to get into the alpha 2 test phase, possibly as late oct-nov as by that time a lot on content will be released from the alpha 1 testers
versed hollow
@vivid sparrow they will make an announcement before they remove any packs. Saying that, packs that provide Alpha 2 access like likely be taken away closer to Alpha 2 start
silent island
So I just saw the lazy peons my.com video
In that he said that eastern version of the game may have a different business model
Is that accurate?
If so my heart just shattered
weak heron
I think he was referring to other games not AoC itself
scenic agate
Do we know if there is any ilvl requirements for using cosmetics?
sharp flax
it depent, publisher in asia are.....bad
versed hollow
@silent island no, the game is subscription
scenic agate
or overall level requirements
lapis shard
If you reaaaally want to keep your items as safe as possible I guess you could become a citizen of a metropolis right after it's been defended, transport your stuff there and it'll be safe for the next 50 days at least (before the metropolis can be attacked again). In that case you better make sure to protect that caravan lol
versed hollow
@scenic agate not likely, who wants to wait to use their cosmetics when you've paid real money for them?
scenic agate
It just have an impact on the gameplay
that some level 5 can look cooler than a level 50
weak heron
No because the cosmetics arent going to be superior to high level gear etc
blazing wharf
Why can't mayors or kings/Queens use tax funds besides node progression, quest rewards and bounties?
weak heron
Just different
@blazing wharf are you asking why you can't steal the money for yourself?
stone walrus
Name one unreal 4 game handling 500 player battles
@orchid willow Lineage2 was built on unreal engine 2 and was capable of handling 400vs400
blazing wharf
@weak heron nope I'm asking why it can't be used outside of a very small selection of systems. Mayors of tier 3-5 nodes or the least influential later on after the first metropolis.
versed hollow
@scenic agate A quote from Steven: "I want to make sure that equitable cosmetics both from a quantity and quality standpoint are achievable through in-game achievements. Time, effort should let you be happy with what you can accomplish"
weak heron
@blazing wharf there is nothing else youd need to spend it on.
blazing wharf
@weak heron literally wanted the open ended system personally to try a UBI experiment with citizens in my node
versed hollow
@scenic agate there are also cosmetic skins you can earn ingame as well
dark dagger
It would just be used to facilitate rmt
blazing wharf
@weak heron tax money that comes from citizens in the first place, and of course it could but we have systems to combat that abuse. It's no different from a guild leader stealing from a guild bank
@dark dagger getting a top tier drop can facilitate rmt
weak heron
Its a pointless thing to have with little reward with large negative risks.
Cities will have upkeep so you wouldnt have enough left over to give anything meaningful to the thousands of hypothetical citizens
blazing wharf
ah there we go that's what I was looking for
weak heron
Youd be spending your money on buildings etc and they can be downgraded if not managed
stone walrus
you give citizens access to special buildings that need to be maintained with upkeep
dark dagger
Do you need to purchase a home in a node to become a citizen?
weak heron
No
stone walrus
You need to be citizen to purchase a home
versed hollow
@dark dagger @weak heron @stone walrus that's wrong, you need to have housing to become a citizen. You need to be a citizen to have a Freehold
blazing wharf
ok, now why is the taxation system in particular shying away from potential disasters in leadership? Guilds, castle sieges, node sieges, caravan poaching. Even monarch duties have more negatively impactful effects but why specifically does tier 3-5 mayors have little to almost no negative effects besides downgrade for a month, the node won't even disappear by the end of the month...
stone walrus
@dark dagger @weak heron @stone walrus that's wrong, you need to have housing to become a citizen. You need to be a citizen to have a Freehold
@versed hollow thats not what was shown in pre aplha footage
versed hollow
@stone walrus https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Citizenship
dark dagger
🤯
stone walrus
wiki is obsolete
weak heron
@versed hollow there are also citizenship tickets so no, houses arent required
dense moon
Can I climb the tree and spit on people when they pass by ?
silent island
@stone walrus I believe Steven said in his AMA the point of instanced housing is to get more citizens
gritty bear
Will the game become too much ping based game? Like when I play in NA but my main server is OCE will that be too bad? Or maybe like when your ping is 200+ will it be really bad?
silent island
Same doubt
versed hollow
@stone walrus the wiki gets updated with new and up-to-date info when we get it. it is by no means obsolete
weak heron
@versed hollow The wiki itself says you can get citizenship tickets so you're not reading your own links
Depends on how testing goes
thin spear
@idle siren can I use your ash of creation channel footage to create video to introduce your game to people in my country?
versed hollow
@weak heron exactly, DEPENDING on testing
full badger
@idle siren can I use your ash of creation channel footage to create video to introduce your game to people in my country?
@thin spear As long as you give proper credit that should be fine
weak heron
@versed hollow exactly... so you cant rule it out.
mild sky
merry eagle
@versed hollow yeah no sorry
versed hollow
@weak heron I'm not ruling it out, but the primary way to gain citizenship is to have a house
blazing wharf
"Citizenship tickets may also grant citizenship to certain node stages. This mechanic will be decided based on testing."
"Player housing ownership is not affected by citizenship changes"
you do need to own a house before citizenship though
versed hollow
@blazing wharf after you get citizenship in a node, you can move your housing to a different node and still be a citizen on the original node
weak heron
You dont need to Theo, and multiple people are telling you. Go read up on it mate.
versed hollow
@weak heron look at their guild tag, they are just trolling me
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
blazing wharf
Sorry Mist
weak heron
Pls dont ban me Mist
full badger
I'm not a mod, just trying to keep things on track here
weak heron
Im aware lol
sweet void
Oh yeah, will there be guild tabards in aoc?
slow sky
There will be guild cloaks
sweet void
Or maybe guild banners for guild houses/buildings
weak heron
Yes there have been testing for cloaks and flags
slow sky
Not sure about tabards specifically
sweet void
And would there be achievements toward exploration like most number of dungeons found in the region
full badger
Guild tabards have been mentioned in the past
@sweet void https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Achievements
sweet void
Oh nice though i was hoping it be an added bonus/augment to the character not just specific to sieges and events
arctic swift
Will you be able to be a pirate since there will be boat caravans? And would those caravans have a set route or be able to sail however they want
jade canyon
When is it planned to be released for everyone?
tough sierra
2-3 years @jade canyon
versed hollow
@jade canyon it's still early development, so when it's ready, likely in 2/3 years
tough sierra
Have they given an estimated initial guild size in terms of players that can join? Also have they said how much each increase in guild size will add on?
jade canyon
Oh I legitimately thought will be around q3 this year
full badger
Oh I legitimately thought will be around q3 this year
@jade canyon That's for alpha 1
versed hollow
@tough sierra max guild size is 300 right now, and starting size is between 30-50
frosty flare
if i pre-order $375 i'll be able to play?
dapper sleet
yes in A2
full badger
if i pre-order $375 i'll be able to play?
@frosty flare The $375 pack will give you access to Alpha 2, which should happen sometime next year
dapper sleet
after A1, not trying to be funny xD
frosty flare
so no way to get access now?
full badger
We don't have a specific date for it yet
dapper sleet
not atm no
frosty flare
dangg
full badger
You can't buy into Alpha 1 right now
somber minnow
Will everyone be able to play the game in beta? Or is it only open for everyone at release? Also when will beta be?
full badger
You need to buy a pack to get into beta
crystal beacon
Hey guys about the Wayfarer Pre-Order Pack ,do we know when Beta Two test phase is?
full badger
Hey guys about the Wayfarer Pre-Order Pack ,do we know when Beta Two test phase is?
@crystal beacon We don't
frosty flare
i want to play so bad!
full badger
The testing phases go as follow: Alpha 1 -> Alpha 2 -> Beta 0 -> Beta 1 -> Beta 2 -> full release
somber minnow
Maybe they can speed up the process because of all the new attention to the game
primal solstice
When we will get new gameplay footage? And whats the topic of that will be?
dusky reef
ah ok thanks @full badger
full badger
Maybe they can speed up the process because of all the new attention to the game
@somber minnow They are actively recruiting and expanding the company, but don't expect that to save much time
versed hollow
@primal solstice there is a dev update on friday
primal solstice
@versed hollow awsome thx
full badger
When we will get new gameplay footage? And whats the topic of that will be?
@primal solstice We don't know what the dev livestream will contain until it happens
rose mist
As much as i want to be able to play even if its only beta i hope that they wont rush anything in any point let them take the time to make this dream come true
late rose
steve mention on AMA how works exp in party but how it works if 2 players who are not in party killing 1 monster? They get same amount of exp ? half ? or only 1 of them get full exp? but who ? this who deal most dmg or last hitting? 🙂
undone magnet
@late rose I'd assume it would be how he explained tagging works. The person who tagged the mob(Got the first hit) only needs to do ~40% of the total damage to get the loot. So I'd assume they'd get 100% of the XP as well.
signal inlet
There will probably be a exp penalty for the person with the tag if someone helps them. It would lead to power leveling if not.
fading needle
if you need to do dmg to get loot or a % of it what do tanks do for loot . 😦
undone magnet
It was on the topic of raid bosses but thats the only info we have to go off of right now in terms of XP distribution.
Also @fading needle if you're in a party you'll still get loot. That situation is for if someone tries to steal a monster/boss you're fighting that isn't in your party/raid
fading needle
thank you doomyuu ❤️
solemn magnet
If I missed the "Part 1 - Exodus" in Apocalypse, will I be able to catch up on the rewards when the next stage of testing arrives?
grim breach
Most likely not
fading latch
It depends if Part 2 is castle sieges or if they will move to part 2 in Apocalypse. However, if and when it comes back it may just be part 1 again
Tl;dr we dont know
solemn magnet
Aight, appreciate it guys 🙂
fading latch
Dont panic tho. You didnt miss alot in terms of earnables @solemn magnet
solemn magnet
Yeah it's mostly about emotes. As roleplayer that could suck a lot
lilac lion
Most likely its not coming back. I dont think apoc is coming back atleast
tawdry forum
Will there be different tiers of quality in regards to monster/animal parts such as common and high quality?
versed hollow
@lilac lion Apoc is going to come back after Alpha https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
will be horde mode and siege
lilac lion
Lol i see alpha then beta then release, pretty sure they cancelled castle and horde siege
Or im blind
fickle abyss
Where can I shamelessly plug my new YouTube channel that I'm covering AoC on? 🤔
versed hollow
@fickle abyss in #community-media
fickle abyss
Ah that makes sense. Thanks
static thistle
Is there an ETA on how much XP will be lost on death in PvP?
fading latch
No that will be tested in alphas
static thistle
okay thanks 😄
glossy siren
Will there be body blocking
Like can I be a tank and stand in front of my mage friend
dire hull
On dungeons , the drop table Will be the same amount if u in solo or party ?
Or Will it rise the amount depending on the party size?
lilac lion
There is player collision yes
crystal beacon
How many players in a party?
lilac lion
8
graceful ore
Will there be Diffrent spell ranks and does "energy / spender bar (mana)" actually matter ? in the game ? so it dosent end up like Wow retail. where a mage cant run out off mana out being arcane spec. ?
glossy siren
But if I stand in front of him then if he gets targeted could the attack hit me
lilac lion
Depends on the spell (i think) or depends on the attack
glossy siren
Hmm
thin ether
The bard class would be able to have instruments like the bard in FF14, for some inmersion and play ingame like so https://youtu.be/wNLMMBbzc8I?t=9
crisp holly
Yes, there is player and spell collision
glossy siren
Spell collision? So could you collide 2 spell midair
crisp holly
There might be things you can't block due to that being the point of some attacks
Yes
glossy siren
That is amazing
crisp holly
And can't stack multiple AoE mage spells on an area
dire hull
On dungeons , the drop table Will be the same amount if u in solo or party ?
Or Will it rise the amount depending on the party size?
No One know yet? On last AMA @idle siren talk about world boss drop not dungeons
And i dont remember this get Touch on any stream ter
Yet*
crisp holly
I think it was during the AMA that Steven said he didn't want people to just sit still with a bunch of people doing AoE stuff in the same location which is why they plan on spell collision too
glossy siren
Makes sense just imagine 10 mages casting spells
glossy siren
Yeh
crisp holly
Or a bunch of rangers using AoE arrow spells
Takes away from the risk vs reward mindset
glossy siren
But now you got me guessing I really want to go play ranger and shot arrows out of the sky
crisp holly
Lol we have to wait and see how they are going to be doing things because some stuff with be hit scan and others will be bolt style
We have no idea what is what right now
glossy siren
Yeah and also what is weapon use combo
crisp holly
But yes I'd love to shot spells out of the air to help my tank(s)
crisp holly
Not that I've heard of but that means nothing
signal inlet
You can pretty much guarantee there will not be friendly fire.
crisp holly
So could be yes or no
signal inlet
It would never make it past testing
crisp holly
Lol
signal inlet
Unless it is a specific raid encounter mechanic
crisp holly
Good to hear
glossy siren
Wait then going back to collision can a mage place a aoe on there place so a enemy mage couldnt
crisp holly
Not sure
glossy siren
Hmm
crisp holly
But I like that thought
glossy siren
Just be one giant shield
Well I planned on being a tank that is why I asked if there was collision
So I could jump in the way if a spell and get hit to protect someone
crisp holly
Body block is a thing
glossy siren
Hell yes
thin ether
wouldnt that affect a lot pvp?
glossy siren
Yep
But would it make sense
You can't get the back line through the frontline
You would have to flank
charred nebula
Where I need to do account for EU servers?
thin ether
you wouldnt anyway even if u can, if u go between everyone u may get killed before getting to the backline
tacit veldt
Is there gonna be fantasy racism for rp or is that not gonna be allowed at all in game?
tacit veldt
It would be very satisfying though
thin ether
but thats the point
silent island
@simple ether could you please comment on the possibility of p2w in SEA server
tacit veldt
Sniper time
silent island
glossy siren
Haha well to keep this to questions does anyone know all the PvP events
stoic charm
Everytime i think about collision all i can see is massive griefing lol >.>
glossy siren
Yeh but that would be fun
misty condor
blocking people on doors
silent island
Am I misinterpreting
glossy siren
Imagine making a street fight cause someguy did say sorry for bumping into you
lilac lion
Steven would rather delay and self publish than make it p2w
tulip hatch
My comment was in no way stating p2w would happen, intrepid would choose to self publish before going p2w
lilac lion
Thats what that means
tulip hatch
misty condor
imagine bumping on the mayor
silent island
@tulip hatch that’s why I came here for clarification
lilac lion
Youre in the right place
misty condor
and it is military node
glossy siren
Yep enaxpi
silent island
@tulip hatch sorry if it came off as rude
stoic charm
Will we be able to collision the mayor out of his own house? 😄
tulip hatch
No it's fine no worries, perhaps I'll edit the post to make it more clear
glossy siren
I don't think getting out of his house but trapping him you could
dire pond
Hey guys how all are doing. I wanted to know if anyone knows if you can build a ship even if you are not in a naval node
lilac lion
Imagine a alliance jus block city exits by player collision 😅 anyways lets keep discussions to a minimum
glossy siren
K
misty condor
move to #general-discussion
silent island
@tulip hatch I edited my second question but u already had answered it
@tulip hatch my big mistake
@tulip hatch I’ll correct it now
silent island
Thank you for the clarification @simple ether @lilac lion @tulip hatch
ocean acorn
Do we know what happens if you choose the same archetype as both primary and secondary? Will you still get augments or will you get something else, like more skill points or an upgraded version of your skills?
ornate ibex
Ta, no caso cade o ashes of creation apocalypse?
grim breach
No, Apoc is closed.
ornate ibex
Vai voltar?
night vessel
Is there gonna be an option like a hotkey to enable the pvp targeting so you don't have to deal with miss clicks or AOE scenarios in open world?
grim breach
@ornate ibex Maybe, don't know yet. They might bring it back after Alpha 1 is done. No dates.
ornate ibex
Não conheço o termo AOE, o que significa @night vessel
grim breach
@ocean acorn We don't know the full details of secondary augments yet. Gonna have to wait until Alpha 2 for those information.
night vessel
@ornate ibex i dont understand that language😁
ornate ibex
@grim breach No jogo eu vou ter que pagar constantemente para continuar jogando ou só uma vez e o acesso é permitido para sempre?
viral lintel
何て言ってるかはさっぱりわからない
grim breach
I actually don't understand a word, Neo22. I simply guessed your question. 
ornate ibex
I don't know the term AOE, which means @night vessel
grim breach
@night vessel There will be an option to enable force attack for AOEs.
I believe it includes healing AOEs as well.
night vessel
Area of effect . like spell 'hellfire " that can do damage to multiple targets at once
ornate ibex
@grim breach In the game will I have to pay constantly to continue playing or just once and is access allowed forever?
grim breach
There will be 15 USD monthly sub.
night vessel
@grim breach ty
grim breach
There might also be regional pricing, should Intrepid decides to open a server to a certain region.
ornate ibex
@night vessel
Ah yes, damage in the area, haha thanks, I had never heard that term
timid mason
Is there gonna be an option like a hotkey to enable the pvp targeting so you don't have to deal with miss clicks or AOE scenarios in open world?
@night vessel I think you have to specifically use ctrl F to hit a green, if u retaliate you won't hit greens
versed hollow
@ornate ibex AOE stands for Area of Effect
acoustic elk
And that regional pricing would limit you to that regional server if they went that direction
night vessel
@timid mason thanks
ornate ibex
@grim breach
Damn, $ 15 is R$80 a month
timid mason
Gotta cancel my Spotify and anti virus to play the game xD
ornate ibex
@versed hollow ty
spring dagger
is there gonna be an asian or an oceanic server ?
grim breach
Wait until they make an official announcement regarding regional pricing. AFAIK, Brazil have been one of the most vocal for it and Steven gave an example of the price in Brazillian dollars. @ornate ibex
is there gonna be an asian or an oceanic server ?
@spring dagger There will be. Not sure if they want to combine OCE and SEA together or separate them.
ornate ibex
@timid mason rsrrsrs
ionic eagle
So I remeber there being mention of Research and Development in Ashes of Creation for crafting. What ever happened to that? Was it axed or am I missing something? I suppose it could just be bundled into the profession but I thought there was a mention of R&D specific tasks.
gritty osprey
@idle siren or anyone, would it be possible to get some AoC wallpapers? Preferably in 3440 x 1440p 😄
charred nebula
If I make account in Intrepid studio I can play only on NA servers?
ornate ibex
@grim breach Who is Steven?
grim breach
The Big Boss. El Patron.
misty condor
Jesus
gritty osprey
@grim breach Who is Steven?
@ornate ibex Creative Director of the studio, the guy who started the rebirth of MMORPGs!
Disclaimer: Hopefully.....
spring dagger
@spring dagger There will be. Not sure if they want to combine OCE and SEA together or separate them.
@grim breach please do
grim breach
So I remeber there being mention of Research and Development in Ashes of Creation for crafting. What ever happened to that? Was it axed or am I missing something? I suppose it could just be bundled into the profession but I thought there was a mention of R&D specific tasks.
@ionic eagle I believe you're talking about crafting Recipes. You will have to find and obtain them, through various activities.
stone walrus
What is P&D?
@Neo2.2#3564 research and development
ornate ibex
ah, okay
grim breach
If I make account in Intrepid studio I can play only on NA servers?
@charred nebula Account in <ashesofcreation.com> will allow you to play in any servers that Intrepid handles themselves. No region locks.
charred nebula
Ty
next vector
How much will you be missing if you wander between nodes instead of dedicating yourself to one?
I'm thinking of becoming a wandering herbalist, selling potions to adventurers 😄
frail garnet
Well alot
Most of the end game
Since it is based on nodes
And how they worl together/agaimst eachother
round wind
There's gonna be a "best" way to play but from what I've seen the game is plenty open to be played however you wanna play. If you're wandering you won't be involved in a lot of the node expansion events and what not but that's not saying you won't be able to get to max level and enjoy the game for what you're making it.
thorny summit
what sauce taste best with Tulnar meat?
thorny summit
i need it for the wiki
frail garnet
Bro I cant get is my self
crystal beacon
Garlic sauce
versed hollow
Keep on topic guys
next vector
I see. I guess I'll settle in a node when I get to end game
round wind
Unless you're super invested in making a node home and building it up (or have a freehold), I expect people will migrate home nodes alot based on what they need
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
lapis sonnet
So, this question goes more towards devs and the follow up goes to community. One of the all time most fun events I’ve ever done in an MMORPG is me and my guild@going to a snowy mountain...dropping a campfire and singing songs in discord and having a competition. So my question is, after launch, will there be like node or zone wide christmases and events so you can just chill and hang back with friends? I know you go through the four seasons cycle in some areas but how cool would it be to just be like you know what? Tonight all of us can just sit back and have fun with our friends. Community as well...what do you think of special times events for Christmas and other holidays?
torpid lantern
Do we know when alpha one without NDA will start? I recall lazypeon mentioning that it will start before the end of this year, is that still the plan?
severe flame
@torpid lantern no date has been set, we might get more info this weekend on the dev stream. But alpha 1 is this fall
torpid lantern
Oh, so it's fall not winter? Sweet.
crystal beacon
Just to clarify: A race doesn't have to only be religious to their patron god right? For example the Kaivek don't have to be religious to only Norlan (The god of fate) and they could be religious to another god like the goddess of creation, right?
grim breach
The holiday events will not be like the real world events. Definitely not Christmas or something. They will be Verra themed.
severe flame
Also, Steven has repeatetly said no NDA. This is to earn our trust and for us to challenge their systems, but also give them feedback
versed hollow
@crystal beacon you can choose to follow a religion or not, the benefits it may give won't be game changing
lapis sonnet
Darn...well hopefully we can get like a version of it somewhere down the line. Thanks for info.
versed hollow
@severe flame Current testing is only under a visual NDA. They are able to talk about the game, just not show it
distant sequoia
Hiya! Is it currently known whether you can change your second class/augmentation once youve chosen one?
idle jacinth
Probably a stupid question, but does anyone know if there will be resets of the map? Like if a city gets to strong and it rules the map? Like rust where a alpha tribe is massive and controls the whole map but theres like a monthly wipe, obviously it wont be monthly but the question is, will there be Map wipes?
crystal beacon
That wont happen anyway.
versed hollow
@distant sequoia Yes, you will be able to change your secondary class, but it will take some effort to do
full badger
@idle jacinth The devs will have the power to do it but will only do it as a last resort
torpid lantern
@distant sequoia Yes, you will be able to change the second class, but it involves some effort
deft dragon
Why no real world events in game? I love celebrating things like Halloween and Christmas in game cause they're awesome IRL.
vast dirge
Has there ever been anything mentioned about steps being taken to prevent specific classes being significantly more efficient at mob farming than others? As an example, frost mages in classic wow being able to kill 250+ elite mobs at the same time.
woeful zephyr
There will be lore friendly world events
deft dragon
boo
distant sequoia
@versed hollow @torpid lantern Thank you 😊
crystal beacon
Why no real world events in game? I love celebrating things like Halloween and Christmas in game cause they're awesome IRL.
Immersion and to further lore.
woeful zephyr
fun* not friend oof
versed hollow
@idle jacinth a metropolis will only have influence over 1/5 of the map, and there is a max of 5 metropolis. One city can't be "too powerful"
digital yacht
@crystal beacon they will have their own holidays basically like the mentioned but tying into their lore
crystal beacon
@deft dragon ^
digital yacht
My b
lean current
@versed hollow A castle will have influence over 1/5 of the map, for metropolises, we don't know. I think it is even possible to have two metropolises in a castle region
crystal beacon
its alright :)
deft dragon
I hope the lore is good enough to get excited about those holidays
digital yacht
Steven is a DND DM he can make some lore
There is very little on the lore atm but it’s all very good
deft dragon
I'll wait on reading it haha - too early!
versed hollow
@lean current "Up to one fifth of the world will be encompassed within the ZOI of a Metropolis." taken from the wiki https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes#Zone_of_influence
topaz sequoia
Sorry does ZOI stand for Zone of Influence?
full badger
yes
versed hollow
yes
topaz sequoia
cheers
lean current
oh yes, you are right. I remembered it incorrectly. It's also a fifth, but might not be the same as a castle region
versed hollow
@lean current you were correct with the castle region covering 1/5th of the world as well
lean current
yes, but still, a castle region might contain two metropolises, with current information
that is what I meant
thin ether
Does anyone know if we will be able to play instruments as bard like in FF14?
versed hollow
@lean current yes "Castle regions, Economic regions, and Node ZOI (Zones of Influence) can overlap."
lean current
depending on which nodes are developed to the highest stage
idle jacinth
Is there pvp battle grounds or only open world/sieges?
full badger
Is there pvp battle grounds or only open world/sieges?
@idle jacinth https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Open_world_battlegrounds
versed hollow
@idle jacinth yes, there will be battlegrounds in the game as well as arenas https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas
idle jacinth
Cheers lads 👍👍👍
humble flare
Is there a way to check who your referrals actually are? right now i can just see the numbers.
limpid scarab
Hey everyone, i am a bit confused 🙂 I saw that anyone can download ashesh of creation now, but there is no active beta? 1: where do i download the game and 2: can i play it when the download is finished?
crisp holly
No where to download the game right now. We are currently at pre-alpha 1
limpid scarab
Ah, fair enough! Looking forward to the beta!
frozen tartan
all test phases are and will be key locked
crisp holly
^
frozen tartan
you need to "pre-order" the game if you wanna participate in one of the test phases
stable plover
(Apart from APOC testing)
stark badge
Does anybody know the initial guild member sizes?
lilac lion
300
frozen tartan
Except APOC, indeed ^^
stable plover
@stark badge 30-50, they haven't settled on the low end
ebon star
initial guild member size is not 300 that is the cap you can reach
slow sky
300 is cap if you invest guild skill points into increasing capacity
stark badge
Thank you, i figured it would have been ~50, since largest raid sizes are 40
native shadow
Heey, a quick question. Steven often said that he draws many inspiration from Lineage 2. A system which I really like in that game was the Olympiad ("rated 1v1) Is there any plan on implementing something like that in AoC?
frozen tartan
it is said that a guild following exclusively the skill path (and not the size paht) will be around 30-50 members
native shadow
Juicy! Thanks!
silent island
is there a system which makes communicating with ppl speaking different languages
SEA server mainly has a vast difference in the languages spoken
lilac lion
Will there be zones where you dont get corruption? To practice like a full on 10v10 or something?
frozen tartan
SEA server mainly has a vast difference in the languages spoken
@silent island
same in EU
Best I can recommend is trying to find a community speaking your language
native folio
How many people will be able to gather "legendary" crafting materials from a legendary worldboss?
And how rare will these bosses be?
onyx knoll
We dont have numbers on that yet @native folio but we know it deff won't be everyone that participates gets something
You'll have to fight hard for those world bosses and bring as many people as you can :p
crystal beacon
And when it comes to how rare the bosses will be we don't know either, but they should be pretty rare to balance the economy.
slow sky
Imagine getting the legendary mat and then the raid flags up to murder your ass for it
native folio
@slow sky You know thats definitely going to happen, slaughterfest once the legendary boss is down lmao
digital yacht
that’s why u roll with ur guild then they can’t attack u
tidal depot
Is a legendary mat considered a gatherable?
digital yacht
We don’t know
lilac lion
Always raid world bosses with the guild
digital yacht
If it’s even droppable
crystal beacon
Just don't fight back, they'll get corruption lol
digital yacht
And you’ll lose more
weak heron
You lose more of your items if you don't fight back
weak sparrow
would it be possible for players to voluntarily become corrupted and staying corrupted without needing to murder greens regularly to upkeep the corruption
i want to be able to have enemy players hunt me down but dont want to have a debuff when a player attacks me, but dont like the idea of ruining some greens day just to upkeep corruption
native folio
Having legendary mats be droppable seems a little harsh maybe
Unless you're corrupted
digital yacht
If ur corrupted u are losing stats rventually
onyx knoll
Yeah if you are carrying rare mats you are better off fighting back so the chances of you losing those rare mats are lessened
weak heron
@weak sparrow your full stats come back when bounty hunters attack you
During the fight
weak sparrow
@weak heron but not when his friends attack you while he is just directing them to me
slow sky
No they dont
Corruption dampens your stats until that corruption is removed either through the grind or death
noble crater
Steven has said corruptions stat debuff doesnt apply against BH
weak sparrow
@noble crater but a BH can be a scout and his friends dont need to be BH to attack me, they cna just Purple and attack
digital yacht
Doubt it
slow sky
Actually from the graph green players that kill a red player stay green
hollow wadi
will alpha 2 come within this year is that confirmed?
slow sky
They dont even flag purple
lilac lion
@hollow wadi alpha 1 this year
weak sparrow
@viral lintel i want the option to be red without taking the penalty you get for killing non combatants
viral lintel
you dont flag as combatant when attacking monsters, and reds are monsters
native folio
Do you get the reward if you're not a bounty hunter? @weak sparrow
onyx knoll
lilac lion
Alpha 2 most likely next year unless it gets delayed
weak sparrow
@native folio free pvp coming your way, good way to practice pvp with scrub gear for fun, see how long you last out in the wilderness
no idea, corrupted drop thier gear if corrupted enough
unreal zealot
so in terms of quests do we know if a quest will be "smart" and say deliver this to the next node over if its a vassel node?
digital yacht
No clue
weak sparrow
@onyx knoll but a BH doesnt have to attacka red, just bring his purple crew to my location and watch instead, i get debuff and BH can just come in for the kill
onyx knoll
There will be some quests that are created based on nodes around them that require you to do stuff in that other node
viral lintel
working as intended @weak sparrow
onyx knoll
@weak sparrow correct, and technically they wont even need to be purple friends they could be green. This is something they will be testing in alpha
unreal zealot
ok nice was jsut a thought i had just now and got worried id be following quests in the same town.
weak sparrow
@viral lintel but what if i dont want to have to kill greens repeatedly to upkeep teh corruption, i want the pvp with BH but dont want to kill greens to do it
viral lintel
red is a mechanic to keep rpk in check, not some sort of status symbol, big dock color or so.
if you want pvp, theres lots of systems for that
weak sparrow
@viral lintel what if i want to fight BH, they are coming for me, an entire session where they could come to me and i get to fight them for fun
viral lintel
could duel them, for example, or do node sieges, castle sieges, BGs, arenas, lots of ways
weak sparrow
true
onyx knoll
@weak sparrow you only need to kill 1 green to become corrupted, then you stay that way until you farm your corruption away, and only 1 kill makes your debuffs mostly insignificant so you could kill only one person and then wait for a BH to find you
viral lintel
going red for that purpose sucks, because you have to keep the corruption up, and you suffer 4x the penalties a normal player has on death
weak sparrow
but each time you kill a green the corrupted debuff will stack higher
if you kill a green every day then after 30 days that corrupted debuff will be a lot worse imediatly
onyx knoll
You can do a quest that resets your kill count
crisp holly
I've got a question about corruption.
When you are corrupted and killing monsters to get rid of it. Does it act like XP debt and you can't level up until you are not corrupt? Or do you work off your corruption and gain xp at the same time?
Follow up questions to that. If you have both corruption and XP debt. Do they get worked off together or one before the other?
viral lintel
make a forum post and request a "challenger status", where you appear as killer for BHs without being red, should be trivial to implement
weak sparrow
@viral lintel but if im red, greens will purple and attack me on sight, more pvp without worrying about killing non combatants
onyx knoll
@crisp holly from how i understand it it's negative xp, so you have to grind xp to get back to positive xp, so yes you wouldnt be able to lvl while corrupted
viral lintel
nah, just the status, you could stay green yourself, so nobody can attack you without flagging, except for BHs
onyx knoll
@weak sparrow yes, the system really isn't made to reward you being red with fair combat, sorry :/
weak sparrow
@onyx knoll then why do BH and Corrupted have fair combat against each other?
grim breach
Corruption and XP Debt are two different things. @crisp holly
Your follow up question is a very good one. I don't know the answer to that. Will have to test or ask a PI member who already tested and became both.
onyx knoll
Because BH get special rewards to encourage them hunting players so it would be too easy to get those rewards if they could wait until you were super weak
viral lintel
im not sure tho how many would even be interested in such a "fake red to specifically fight BHs mode", but it's worth a try anyway. just post on the forums
viral lintel
aight, try on the forums then, discord will just scroll away
onyx knoll
You can fairly pvp people by being purple tho you dont need to fight BH specifically
grim breach
Maybe you can worship an evil God and become Corrupted indefinitely
Who knows
Religious and Divine nodes may open up many possibilities, we don't know any of their details yet.
crisp holly
@onyx knoll that is what I was thinking it would work like. If you have both corruption and XP debt that will be hard to get it off by kill mobs. As corruption lowers your PvP stats and XP debt lowers your over all stats(not your level). which could mean that you aren't strong enough to kill most/many mobs. Meaning that you end up dying to lose your corruption and giving you even more XP debt to work off.
At least that is what it seems like right now
I'm not sure if I'd want that to change or not
boreal abyss
Corruption, as far as we know it, will not affect PvE combat (aka fighting mobs)
viral lintel
if you kill so many greens that you're deep red and completely crippled, then you deserve the extra work you'll have to put in to assemble a group of friends to carry you in a dungeon somewhere, where no BHs can find you before you got it worked off
grim breach
Gaining EXP will probably lose only a small amount of corruption. Dying is the way to lose a significant amount.