questions

[jovial kayak]

But don't mind me, I am as clueless as you are

[latent parcel]

Like human

[half tree]

if you have to time I recommend the read, 2.5K chapters to date if you have the time

[crystal beacon]

@latent parcel We don't know much about the religions systems yet, but... I strongly doubt it.

[topaz bridge]

is this the proper room to ask questions regarding some game features ?"

[versed hollow]

yes

[topaz bridge]

I have question regarding the housing outside of the city area's . It was said when the towns/cities get into the pvp if 1 falls you can lose your housing in that area , how does the system work outside ? Can people just come along and smash your things etc.. ?

is there any safety and what is it if it's possible to know now ? If not understandable.

[versed hollow]

@topaz bridge if a city falls, your freehold outside the city can be attacked, and you could potentially lose some of the resources/items you have there

[topaz bridge]

but not all ? like do you retain the house location/plot?

[versed hollow]

@topaz bridge more indepth info on it can be found at https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds#Freehold_destructibility

but you won't lose everything

[topaz bridge]

ahh awesome thank you @versed hollow @simple ether

[worldly moss]

Are the locations for nodes predetermined?

[topaz bridge]

I got into Ashes of Creation at pax east quite a few years ago , just been patiently waiting and showing this to everyone and now I'm getting hit with questions on things I don't do like housing lol greatly appreciate the assistance.

[versed hollow]

@worldly moss yes, nodes will always be in the same location, however progression of nodes around them will limit what stage they can get to

[worldly moss]

And is it also predetermined what type of nodes they are?

[lilac lion]

yes

[versed hollow]

yes, a scientific node will always be exactly that

@worldly moss for example, if a stage 6 scientific metropolis got destroyed, it would become a stage 0 scientific node

[eager rock]

Have we heard if there will be extraction skills.

Example a skill that allows you to pull a alley / enemy towards you.

[unkempt depot]

Will backstab be tied to a dagger? Or can you backstab with a two hand sword?

[versed hollow]

@unkempt depot complex combat mechanics are very much unknown right now until things get more finalised during testing

[onyx knoll]

Tanks have a pull skill

Like a grapple sort of thing

[worldly moss]

Alright, will the placements be relatively convenient as to what kind of nodes they are, like will a scientific node be close to a lot of gathering/mining spots?

[versed hollow]

@worldly moss Gatherable resources (raw materials/harvestables) occur in locations where you would expect them to be organically. So ores are more likely to be near mountains and caves, wood in forest areas etc.

so has no relation to node type

[worldly moss]

Alright

thanks 🙂

[versed hollow]

@worldly moss what will effect things is when nodes go up in stages, they may unlock higher tier resources. A dungeon could expand and reveal more mining nodes

it's not known if the type of node has any influence, just the stage so far

[hallow venture]

Do we know anything about choosing our initial starting area?

[flint tapir]

Have they answered any questions about ingame music? Being able to play music sheets from a violin for example

[versed hollow]

@hallow venture yes, each race has a starting area, however you can start at any one regardless of race. your own race's starting area will have some quests for you, but they are by no means nessaccery

[hallow venture]

Ah cool ty

[versed hollow]

@flint tapir only info I can find about music on the wiki is that Music within taverns can be set by players.

[worldly moss]

So you can play some tunes from 69?

[unkempt depot]

Would there be any corrupted nodes for all the corrupt people?

[trim moon]

Can i post a larger question on this chat? i usually see shorter ones

[versed hollow]

@trim moon of course

@worldly moss will likely be a choice of in game music

[trim moon]

@simple ether On my 4th hour of Q&A btw, thanks for the video!

[worldly moss]

What's the difference between Black/Armor/Weaponsmithing? Like i know the difference between armor and weaponsmithing but i've seen just "Blacksmithing" and i wonder what that includes

[onyx knoll]

Blacksmiths make tools

[versed hollow]

@worldly moss armour and weapon should be self explanatory, Blacksmithing will be for tools like pickaxes

[worldly moss]

Ah okay thanks 😛

[half tree]

regarding blacksmithing will there be 'failed attempts' which cause you to lose the resources or will all attempts succeed?

[versed hollow]

@half tree unknown at this point, but there will be rare blueprints that have limited uses

[strange socket]

I hope they do it like L2 where they have 60% and 100% rates with different resource costs

[versed hollow]

likely that all attempts succeed

[strange socket]

And some recipes only 60%

its beautiful watching ppeople lose their minds over failed crafts

[trim moon]

Question: Because the game is pretty much all open world (including most dungeons), what are the impediments/disincentives to stronger players bullying and/or trolling weaker players?

I understand that the flagging system discourages players from ganking and grieffing, but that only accounts for the PvP side of the problem. In other games, like Lineage II (personal experience) and specially Tibia, a lot of bullying was done by stealing mobs, loot etc., which would not be affected by the flagging system. Additionally, these games attempt to solve the issue by saying "oh, so just group with other players and kill the bullies", but that's not a good solution to the problem, as it makes smaller groups and guilds reliant on the large guilds to play the game. The only solution to this, in the current AoC info, would be for these players to run the instanced content.

So, how can the game create system where the experience of a weaker solo player/small group isn't reliant on large guilds to farm the open world content?

[half tree]

I think that the success rate should increase with your skill against the level of item you are trying to make

[versed hollow]

@trim moon The solution is exactly that, kill them, by yourself of with a group

[half tree]

other wise they market just gets flooded with everything and it becomes meaningless

[versed hollow]

@half tree items will degrade and require reparing, some items may even become unuseable and require to be remade

[half tree]

@versed hollow that works too 😉

[trim moon]

@versed hollow The problem with this solution is that you would basically force a player to PK and become corrupted, leaving them vulnerable to being killed and potentially dropping their items

[turbid sphinx]

[Question] What happens if a guild master has irl issues and doesn't log back on for X time? Or passes GM to an officer? Will the guild stuff stay intact? Will the new GM immediately be granted titles and items and stuff? Or is this answered alreayd somewhere I can look into.

[subtle holly]

You could have your guild declare war on theirs to circumvent the corruption @trim moon

[versed hollow]

@trim moon The game is being balanced around group play, doesn't mean that solo is impossible/pointless. Low amounts of corruption won't make you drop items, you will become more likely to drop items the more corruption you gain

@turbid sphinx those systems are still being worked on, not a lot of info on it

[trim moon]

@subtle holly But that wouldn't work as well for smaller guilds (like my group of friends plans to create). So it can lead to situations where you rely on the large guilds of more hardcore players so you don't get taxed or grieffed while trying to farm.

@versed hollow Oh, that helps!

[versed hollow]

A one-off PK isn't going to effect you in a significant way, especially if you are similar lvls

the corruption is there mainly to deter people from going on killing sprees of non-combatants, and destroying low lvl player for fun

[short cave]

Is there any chance it comes to next console

[onyx knoll]

Nothing planned for console atm

[short cave]

😢

[versed hollow]

very, very unlikely it will come to console

they don't handle the complex controls that MMO's have very well

[solemn magnet]

I heard that all Skins you earn in AoC Apocalypse will be transfered to AoC MMORPG - is that true or false information?

[versed hollow]

that's true

[tame atlas]

is there gonna be a free trial like wow for example where it's free up to the first 20 levels but then you gotta pay a sub, or do you have to just pay the sub straight away

[versed hollow]

they are like "thank you"'s for helping to test

@tame atlas not planned, would introduce bots too

[tame atlas]

aight

[versed hollow]

well, more bots

[indigo obsidian]

the skins earned in Apoc can be traded?

[solemn magnet]

Thats actually a really, really genius idea to get people to try out the stuff they want to test. Performance, combat etc.

[versed hollow]

All cosmetic store items will be non-tradeable. So any you get from testing/backing will be untradeable too

[trim moon]

Which countries/regions are going to host game servers?

[onyx knoll]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Servers

[trim moon]

@onyx knoll Thanks!

[versed hollow]

as of right now, EU, NA, OCE, and SEA

[trim moon]

@versed hollow 😢

[onyx knoll]

Leme guess, you're from brazil?

[versed hollow]

there has been talk of other servers, but those are the ones that are 100% confirmed for launch

[onyx knoll]

They mentionned MAYBE doing a south american server if there is enough interest

[trim moon]

@onyx knoll Of course 😆

[onyx knoll]

So keep being active and making yourself heard and maybe you'll get dedicated servers ;)

[trim moon]

Sure hope it does. A lot, like A LOT of people i know are hyped, but with get discouraged to pay in USD with the current state of our currency.

[lament karma]

I have bought into the Alpha 2 option, is there somewhere I can go to request to be part of the Alpha 1 test team?

[solemn magnet]

So being registered on the website is enough to be invited / notified when the next AoC Apocalypse testing arrives?

[versed hollow]

@lament karma no, only those with packs that give Alpha 1 access will be in it

[turbid sphinx]

[Question] to piggy back off of the server locations. Will it be more similar to Vanilla WoW where we had servers say up and down the West Coast? Or will it be like more current games where there are server Hubs?

[versed hollow]

@turbid sphinx not sure, they are using amazon servers however

[hasty umbra]

wonder if the servers are running on K8s

[solemn magnet]

Mhm.. I'm missing my Founder Badge on the forums. Are they just not released yet or is that some kind of bug and I should write to support? 🙂

[half tree]

Any idea if they are enabling payability by VR

[onyx knoll]

Sorry i have no idea since I unfortunatly arrived late to the party and dont have founders :( and i feel like the ppl that could help you have already logged off, i recommend you try asking again tomorrow during the day when its more active

I dont think there were any mentions of VR support so far

[unkempt depot]

Ya I wish I was a founder.

[solemn magnet]

No worries Xenellia 🙂 Appreciate your answer though. I'll open up a support ticket

[crystal beacon]

I know there's a command that brings up FAQ about kickstarter stuff but I can't recall it offhand =\

[burnt lava]

@solemn magnet you need to submit a support ticket to get that fixed. they will get you fixed within a day or two

[solemn magnet]

Thanks :>

[burnt lava]

You're welcome

[vast prawn]

Will there dedicated oce or sea servers?

[burnt lava]

Seems to be both

OCE and SEA

[onyx knoll]

Yep, both

[vast prawn]

Cheers

[solemn finch]

Has Steven ever said what type of combat system they’re trying to be, not necessarily emulate, but if there was a game we could look at for a better idea how their final combat might look. I understand their mix of action combat and tap target. And I’ve seen their videos. Just wondering if any game runs similar, but is more polished. So I can get an idea of how it’ll look

[blazing gazelle]

Question guys, are weapons going to be class lock I can use whatever I want? Example picking a ranger and been able to switch to a one handed sword for example?

[solid zealot]

@blazing gazelle No class lock items

[blazing gazelle]

Ok so I can for example have a bow and switch to other weapons?

[solid zealot]

@blazing gazelle Yes

[grand ingot]

does that also mean you could use a staff on a warrior class but with like very limited mana?

[solid zealot]

Any class can use any weapon but of couse some class will be better with some weapons then other classes

[onyx knoll]

@solemn finch a mix of action and tab targetting, you'll be able to chose how many of which type you use to a max of 75/25

[grand ingot]

that sounds exciting

[blazing gazelle]

That's sick love that! And is there going to be like a dual wield, like two one handed swords, daggers, staff and swords things like those

[tiny steeple]

Dual wielding daggers was on the road map, so maybe more down the line?

[solid zealot]

@blazing gazelle daggers for sure don't know what else

[solemn finch]

Yeah I get that. Asking more of what games I can look at for a better idea of how it’ll be. Since they’re in early early alpha rn, so combat is very simple currently

[tiny steeple]

Not sure if there is anything really similar, especially because we're not sure what he final product will look like and they're trying to build something unique.

[quasi loom]

I have a question regarding stealth. Will it be a toggle stance like WoW or a short duration modifier for both mainclass rogue and subclass rogue

[upper epoch]

So I used to play L2 alot did steven state what guild he was in?

[solid zealot]

@solemn finch guild wars 2 I think

[solemn finch]

Thank you

[dark jungle]

@quasi loom it's not yet known exactly how stealth will work

[quasi loom]

thank you

[half tree]

Any word if NPC conversations will be dynamic or just scripted?

Im assuming they havent looked at some AI for this aspect

[dark jungle]

NPC AI is intended to be mostly scripted, but may have some dynamic elements to them

[half tree]

🙂

[steep harbor]

Will there be a platform wherein UGC can be posted?

[maiden current]

Is there a way to see the Pre-Order concept art in a larger image than the small preview on the shop?

Also, when does the next set of Pre-Order options rotate in?

[onyx knoll]

UGC?

[steep harbor]

Oh sorry

Like fan created content

[maiden current]

User Generated Content

[steep harbor]

Yea yea yea

Will there be a platform that supports that?

[onyx knoll]

The next rotation of the pre-order cosmetic will be on the 5th, they'll reveal the artworks a few days before

The forums has a fan-made section you could post stuff in

[lethal juniper]

Have they ever explained how raiding mechanics will work? Is it only dodge this and dodge that, or are there actually CC mechanics etc.. How complex will raiding be compared to mythics for example.

[maiden current]

#community-media is the current platform for it on discord.

[steep harbor]

Ahh alright alright

[onyx knoll]

There will be active threat mitigation required, think vanilla WoW. We don't have a lot of exwmple of big fights, but there seems to be a lot of dodging involved from the one we've seen so far. There are CC skills but a bit early to say the impact they'll have in raid

[half tree]

Another curly idea from left field. Do you know if they have thought about the idea of a 'work board' where players can post their own quests? and a reward for completing it?

[onyx knoll]

The difficulty inside a raid or dungeon will scale based on how fast you clear content, so if you kill the first boss in 1 minute then the next boss will be much harder/have extra mechanics vs if you kill the first boss in 10 mins

I do believe there is something like a work board for tavern owners as well as node mayors

[sonic orbit]

I thought I heard Steven say the difficulty scaled based on how far you go into the raid, not how quickly you go through a boss

[half tree]

@onyx knoll Awesome. love the idea hopefully they can figure out a way to stop abuse. but still love to see it

[onyx knoll]

@sonic orbit you're right, it scales off of both

[crisp holly]

Steven said that each boss will have multiple different action paths and depending on how the team does while going through a raid. It will change what action path the boss does

[sonic orbit]

Ahh gotcha

[crisp holly]

The interview with summit talks about this a bit, if I am remembering right

[maiden current]

the stronger your group, the harder the bosses, haha

interview with Asmon also talks about it

[jovial kayak]

Do you guys know if the lore behind each race will have any effect on the character, for example using the rage from the orcs description so that you get a little buff on a fighter orc

Like they would enter a berserker mode when their health is dropped significantly but only for the orc race

[umbral laurel]

From what I had read was that race (and many other things like religion) will be able to apply augments to your arch type

[jovial kayak]

Yeah, me too, but I understood there will be base stats that will differ for each race

Not exactly like that passive race inherited ability

[onyx knoll]

We've been told the racials shouldn't be too important, but there will probably be an optimal race/archetype combo if you want to really min-max it

As for exactly what those racials will be, we'll know most of them when alpha 1 starts

[half tree]

Will the hit boxes for each race be the same or different. IE gnomes in wow where good as they were harder to hit.

[dire pond]

Can we buy a pass for the alpha 1 or only alpha 2 and beta?

[echo cave]

only alpha2 and/or beta

[onyx knoll]

The hit boxes will be the same, last i heard. Steven said he really didnt like games where people made super tiny character to abuse small hitboxes

[half tree]

good to hear.

[stray dome]

Is there a mailing system?

[dire pond]

And do you think there will be a deal or bonus pack if i wait to buy it?

[onyx knoll]

There is mailing but you cannot mail items

@dire pond there already are packs, you can't buy JUST the alpha 2 or beta keys

Hard to say if they'll add new packs later

[dire pond]

Ok thanks a lot

[stray dome]

Ok what happeneds to my items if I lost my housing on a node where I stored items in a chest?

[onyx knoll]

https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop

[pseudo merlin]

@stray dome you will still keep the items that are in your chest. you never lose things permamently

[onyx knoll]

Of your housing storage egts destroyed, you lose a portion of your materials and processed goods. All of your finished crafted items like gears food potions etc, as well as all of your furnite will get mailed to you by the system

[stray dome]

@pseudo merlin yeah but what happens if I got my inventory full and my chest gets destroyed?

[onyx knoll]

@pseudo merlin that isnt accurate, you will permanently lose materials and processed goods all the time in this game lol

[pseudo merlin]

@onyx knoll oh i was thinking of furniture

[opal cedar]

hello! so in the pre order packs (voyager and voyager plus) they both say that you get access to alpha 2 testing but the plus says you get 9 months and regular is 6 months. If you buy the plus pack do you get let in eariler to the alpha test? or yeah

[onyx knoll]

@stray dome it's sent to you by mail so it'll sit in your mailbox until you grab it

[pseudo merlin]

@opal cedar no, you just have 9 months of gameplay time rather than 6 months

so you dont have to pay for 3 more months if you get the voyager plus pack when the game comes out

[opal cedar]

oh

OHHHHHH

smaaaaart

ty dad

[safe canopy]

I've got a pretty important question on this topic. Is there any storage at all that will let you keep materials safe forever? And if there is no such system, what is going to stop people from storing their items on all of their alts to ensure they are never lost?

[onyx knoll]

It's subscription time for when the game officially launches i believe

[stray dome]

@onyx knoll Is that s fact or is that something you think?

[onyx knoll]

The mail part? I'm pretty sure it's fact but i'm on my phone so a bit hard to check atm

@safe canopy personal inventories are rather limited and storage is shared among alts

[stray dome]

@safe canopy You could do that but the capacity of an character is realativly low in comparison to the node storage

[simple pecan]

Storage is shared among alts? I haven't seen that. I've seen that houses have character-specific storage.

[safe canopy]

Okay, if that's the case, then multiboxing becomes a monumentally huge pay to win feature that allows you to store all of your goods safely for an indefinite amount of time. what stops that?

[stray dome]

Yeah that would be new info for me too @simple pecan

[onyx knoll]

Well, you can only have 1 of each type of house per servers, your alts share the housing, and the storage is in the housing

[timid mason]

Will there be voice acting, cutscenes in events and quests?

[onyx knoll]

@safe canopy multiboxing is kinda allowed if you are controlling each account seperatly on different pc, if you are using scipts/macros then you get banned

No voice acting

[stray dome]

@safe canopy Okey imagine you can store 1000 stone on your character and 100000 in your node, I don’t think I want to log on all my chars every time I need resources...

[fair jasper]

I wanna know if proximity chat is gonna be a thing

[onyx knoll]

Proximity voice chat will be a thing in some areas

[simple pecan]

"maybe" seems to be the proximity answer.

[timid mason]

node chat

[simple pecan]

I hope for more of it. I want to be able to speak with people nearby quickly.

[pseudo merlin]

taverns will have proximity chat

[fair jasper]

Looks like we might have some real bards then

[pseudo merlin]

so will some large scale events requiring hundreds of players

[zealous atlas]

Will crafting professions all have the extent of "legendary" things for example crafting legendary weapons is possible through weapon smithing and so does that mean something like alchemy can make a legendary potion

[pseudo merlin]

but very limited in the large scale events

[onyx knoll]

250 v 250 battles for exemple probably will NOT have proximity chat..... That would be one big clusterfk

[simple pecan]

I'm assuming that freeholds would cost more than in-town houses. Any word? Perhaps it's too early for that.

[pseudo merlin]

@onyx knoll there will be, but it will be limited into small groups

[onyx knoll]

Yeah, that's group voice chat not proximity

:p

[stray dome]

@simple pecan free holds are really hard to obtain

[simple pecan]

The proximity chat that people want is the type where you can walk up to a stranger and speak. No parties, no requests. Default on.

[pseudo merlin]

ooh now i see @onyx knoll

[simple pecan]

The proximity chat that people want is the type where you can walk up to a stranger and speak. No parties, no requests. Default on.

[onyx knoll]

@zealous atlas yes there will be rare recipe that will allow master crafters to craft legendary items, no idea for alchemy

[pseudo merlin]

wait people WANT that chat?

[onyx knoll]

Yes

[pseudo merlin]

hard pass

[safe canopy]

@onyx knoll @stray dome Let me rephrase. If there is no system in the game that allows you to ensure your crafting resources are kept safe, then people will find every way around it that they can. If I want to make a ton of gold by selling these items to other players, I will want to make sure I keep them safe. To do that, if storage is shared among alts, then the only option becomes buying multiple accounts, i.e. becoming a pay to win feature. What prevents this from being the case? The easiest solution would be to provide a system in the game that provides a safe place to store your recources, but it's being said that this will not be the case. So how could this possibly be prevented?

[onyx knoll]

I'm sure you'll be able to turn it off if you want

[simple pecan]

In prox chat, of course you'd be able to quickly mute people, or optimally reduce volume.

[pseudo merlin]

i htink itll depend on how salty the community is

[simple pecan]

Screamy kids get muted and may slowly learn.

[fair jasper]

I want it so I can go to a tavern and listen to someone actually sing and role play as a bard and then pay them gold for their performance

[pseudo merlin]

if league of legends salty, then you may end up having to turn it off for everyone

[stray dome]

@safe canopy your inventory and chest in your player housing is 100% save...

[zealous atlas]

Rare recipes will have a certain amount of uses?

[onyx knoll]

No it is not safe

[stray dome]

It is

[simple pecan]

Resources are not safe. Items are.

[onyx knoll]

When you die you drop a % amount of your mats

[simple pecan]

Raw materials may drop. Gear won't unless you're highly corrupt.

[stray dome]

Yes

[slim bluff]

Will crafting gear require materials from dungeons/raids or will all the materials be obtainable from the open world?

[zealous atlas]

Both

[safe canopy]

@stray dome it's not. You drop stuff when you die and lose a portion of stuff when your house falls

[simple pecan]

Only materials. Your house items are saved. Even the layout.

[stray dome]

@safe canopy only raw Material

[grand ingot]

is there going to be an ingame voice chat feature

[safe canopy]

@stray dome yes I know. My question above pertains to raw materials and gatherables

[stable plover]

@grand ingot There will be in game voice

[stray dome]

@slim bluff you will need items from dungeons to craft good gear

[grand ingot]

damn dude i thought only porn could make me wet

[marble basin]

It's a major thing of the game that resources be fought lver

[safe canopy]

@stray dome If there is no option to keep my materials safe and I want to be a player that solely sells materials to other people, the most ideal solution is to then buy multiple accounts to ensure every ounce of materials i have is kept safe

[stray dome]

@safe canopy raw materials are easy to get

[quasi loom]

Is there a way to ensure an Australian based OCE server without having to resort to millitary action 😛

[zealous atlas]

Ok but losing 10% of your 2000 herbs is gonna hurt

[simple pecan]

I'm curious to see how apartments turn out. Them being instanced would allow for far more room than it seems the building can contain. Could be cheap housing for everybody within reason.

[safe canopy]

@stray dome no, they aren't. they have already said there will be very difficult materials that you will need to delve deep into dungeons for or be the first one to get to it in order to acquire it

[onyx knoll]

@safe canopy i guess technically nothing prevents you from buying 10 accounts and leveling 80 characters to use as "safe" houses. However, you will need those characters to still either gather materials themselves, or you will need to transport the materials to them. Both options are incredibly time consuming ans risky so i'm not sure it's really worth the effort at all

[stray dome]

@safe canopy imagine your player inventory can handle 100 resources and your node 10000 you dont want 100 character to save that.

[onyx knoll]

There is no way to 100% ensure your materials will always be safe since you have to be out in the open to gather them in the first place and you can get killed anywhere

[marble basin]

And thats the way it's meant to be

[slim bluff]

There is weight limit on materials yes?

[stray dome]

Yes

[simple pecan]

Being killed as a non-combatant gatherer shouldn't be common due to the corruption system.

[last oak]

another good way would be to have allies protecting trade routes creates a nice dynamic for both the gathers have more value in their goods getting them to safety and creates player guards also interest raiders. reminds me of D&D but with mmo style

[safe canopy]

I'm not trying to make an argument here. This isn't something I actually want to do. It is a concern of mine that will drastically effect player economy if there isn't a preventative measure put in place

[marble basin]

Preventative measure is have people do it together

[simple pecan]

Gankers will become corrupted, hunted, and ganked themselves.

[onyx knoll]

I know, i'm trying to point out that doing something like that is just not worth it.

[quasi loom]

Dont forget the risk vs reward mentality too, reward will be tied in with risks

[stray dome]

Dude it’s an insane bad way to get save on resources @safe canopy the amount your player can hold is not worth, because your node will hold so much more...

[onyx knoll]

So if it's not worth the investment i figure most people wont do it

[marble basin]

This game is heavily high risk high reward based

[quasi loom]

I for one support my new MMORPH overlords

[marble basin]

And while solo is doable, everything is made to encourage grouping

[last oak]

It has a nice balance to it with rewards for player participation and can develop a interesting style of play keeping things fresh. overall i for see a checks and balance system with the players

[safe canopy]

The difference between player and node storage would have to be so monumentally huge for this to not create an issue if an extremely rare resource comes along that you will want to absolutely protect

[onyx knoll]

It's a bit hard to tell atm what the dynamics will be like, i understand your concern @safe canopy and i recommend you keep an eye on the alpha and see how things are. If you feel like it can become a real issue then make a forum post about it :)

[late vale]

MMO

if u wanna play solo play skyrim I don't say its a bad thing

[onyx knoll]

Discussing it here, late at night is a bit pointless as the dev are all sleeping haha

[late vale]

wanting to play alone

[marble basin]

Yeah but that's the point of this game, that you can siege other nodes and steal their resources

[safe canopy]

true

[late vale]

but its like going to play a team sport and saying u wanna play alone

[marble basin]

It's a major thing

You're only meant to feel as safe as the people you play with make you feel

[safe canopy]

@marble basin That's why I have a concern for this. because if there is a way for people to keep their items safe through using alts or secondary accounts, then it GREATLY diminishes the reward others will get for seiging nodes because no one will be storing things in them

[onyx knoll]

Guys, no one is talking about wanting to play solo, this is a concern that can be abused in groups too. Finding potential flaws in the system is the whole point of the alpha

Don't disregard potential problems just because we think it's unlikelly or not realistic we should explore those possibilities tl we can patch holes before they make it to live and become a real problem

[minor goblet]

I think the system to reward storage is the reliquary

[late vale]

I think

[safe canopy]

But Xenellia is right in saying that there's no real point in discussing this at such a late hour with no devs online. I had only meant to ask a simple question earlier and got carried away XP

[late vale]

this game even

[minor goblet]

My guess is between buffs and titles etc is the insentive to store at nodes

[late vale]

if it would happen to have flaws

at launch

would be okey

[marble basin]

Absolutely, I was just saying that you're not meant to be safe

All the time

[late vale]

coz idk about you guys but I feel like they will make it right

[trim moon]

@onyx knoll I agree, specially considering what happened to some L2 servers and Tibia, for an exemple

[late vale]

and they want to make it right

[onyx knoll]

@late vale depends how big of a flaw it is....... -cough Bless Online-

[safe canopy]

@marble basin I completely agree. I think that should definitely be the case. I love that idea. that's why I want to know just how limited the idea of storing things via alts/other accounts will be

[marble basin]

Yeah

[onyx knoll]

Of course they want to make it right! That's why we need to help them as much as we can to figure potential issues out!

[late vale]

Its different I insist, was bless made for gamers by gamers?

[trim moon]

If it is too reliant on groups, it can nullify the possibility of smaller guilds succeeding and progressing in their own rights

[safe canopy]

Hey man, Bless Online was super fun for a day and a half 😛

[onyx knoll]

Yeah lets not talk about Bless actually, i still have nightmares

[pseudo merlin]

"You are now 7level!" "The cooldown's cooldown has been cooled down!"

those phrases literally still pass through my mind sometimes when i read MMO descriptions

[onyx knoll]

🤣

[safe canopy]

Back to questions? 😛 I think the devs don't like it when we get opinionated instead of questionative in this channel

[onyx knoll]

Yep yep

Luckly its late and no one is here to slap our fingers

[marble basin]

slaps fingers

[safe canopy]

Another big question of mine

Will you be corrupted if you heal a corrupted player while someone is trying to kill them?

[trim moon]

Lineage II Style

[onyx knoll]

@marble basin owwie T_T

The healing this is in discussion they'll be testing a few different ways during alpba

[toxic rock]

xerath, you were asking about safe resources in node sieges right? did anyone say that you cant keep resources safe that are invested into the node to level it up?

[umbral laurel]

they said something about protecting players who arent flagged that are supporting or AoE;ing an area with checks to see if you are flagged before the action takes place, so griefers cant just hop into your LoS and force flag

[onyx knoll]

The whole discussion was about ways to keep mats safe that could be abused, not ways that mats are not safe haha, but good point too

[marble basin]

Mats kept in a node will be relatively safe anyway because you can't siege left and right all the time

[onyx knoll]

Alright my brain is staring to muddle, i'm heading off, good night folks

[safe canopy]

Night

[toxic rock]

right, if i invest resources to level up a node, its a risk that node gets destroyed and I lose those mats, If i keep the resources "safe" (not in the node) the node doesnt progress. Maybe then just from questing or xp gains in the vicinity, rather.

that sounds right too, pepe, long cds on sieges

[lyric glade]

can you explain what is bard's wordsmithing and how acting works?

[final oxide]

Will charecters be able to go to different servers or are they server locked?

[safe canopy]

server locked with no cross play as i understand

[opaque harness]

Wondering if you can become a landlord with the apartments to make money.. buy a couple and rent them out to other players 🙂

[late vale]

Just own a castle

and charge taxes

like a chad would do

[safe canopy]

@opaque harness Probably not as an in game feature, but I have played a lot of games with housing, and generally people buy "prime housing" to later sell to other players for a lot more gold

[keen notch]

Steven said that rogues will be able to see traps, hidden doors etc in dungeons. To be able to do this, will you need to be a rogue primary class or does this apply to being secondary rogue as well?

[marble basin]

Mayors can decide to build more appartnents but I don't know if you can make money for yourself from it

[crisp holly]

The only cross server play that I've heard mentioned is area being something that you could fight against other people from another server but nothing more

Arena*

[azure nexus]

So I know Steven mentioned that Sieges would be set at certain times like 3 P.M-7P.M, but what about third shift workers? If I can only play at night what kind of system is set up for them?

[opaque harness]

I guess that factors in with the taxes the Mayor sets in each town too

[marble basin]

Steven said that rogues will be able to see traps, hidden doors etc in dungeons. To be able to do this, will you need to be a rogue primary class or does this apply to being secondary rogue as well?
@keen notch

As far as we know you get all your abilities from your primary, but we don't know if there will be rogue augments that can give detection. Maybe?

[late vale]

Primary

[grizzled latch]

@azure nexus pick a server where the 3-7 pm is your prime time to play

[late vale]

the non combat perks or skills are bound to ur primary class

[crisp holly]

We have been told that each of the 8 primary archetypes will have some kind of life ability and a Rouge is that one

[azure nexus]

@grizzled latch Oh, so upon picking a server, they allow you to pick certain primetimes for that server?

[keen notch]

secondary I feel would defeat the purpose of needing variety i reckon

[marble basin]

No each server has a primetime based on its location

[grizzled latch]

@azure nexus the servers are in timezones, you have to go to the timezone you want and pick one of those servers

[azure nexus]

I don't want to play on a westcoast server unless thats the only way, worried about lag. thats why im curious

[crystal beacon]

Servers being timezone based is actually brilliant

[topaz jacinth]

+1

[grizzled latch]

at least this game takes prime playing time into account for sieges, most games wouldnt and youd miss even more that way

you get to pick between lag and missing big events, instead of being forced into missing big events

[slim bluff]

Will we get both SEA servers and OCE servers or either one?

[azure nexus]

just worried that as a third shift worker i get the choice of either lag or not participating in sieges. :/

[umbral laurel]

it would be kind of cool if we, as a server, could vote if we want prime time to be an hour earlier, later or same time, and allow that vote to happen like every month.

[crisp holly]

@azure nexus you will be able to take advantage of node wars(different than sieges) as those will be able to be at any time but won't have the same effect as a siege does

[grizzled latch]

voting for it would be awful, if the populations votes to change the time you could get screwed after a few months. it would be better to have servers in the same timezone with diffrent prime times though

[azure nexus]

^ thats what i would like

[marble basin]

It's unfortunately not going to be ideal for 100% of players

[grizzled latch]

depending on how popular the game is multiple prime time servers may be possible to convince them to make

[late vale]

its either that or getting robed of ur node while u are sleeping

[grizzled latch]

would need to be prior to launch though i think

[umbral laurel]

i didnt mean it being fluid constantly, just can pick 2-6, 3-7 or 4-8 and thats all

[final oxide]

Will civilizations in the ocean be possible

[azure nexus]

ive convinced 6 people to buy the 375 alpha pack so ill just keep doing that until they add different prime time servers in the same locations xD

[crystal beacon]

@final oxide Islands that are big enough to hold a metropolis can spawn nodes

[grizzled latch]

there will be islands you can quest on if thats what you mean @final oxide , but not exactally sure what youre asking

[late vale]

Yep

they will

the ocean will take active part of the game

[grizzled latch]

I don't think they plan on making actual nodes underwater that you can level up to make into towns though

[late vale]

no that's kinda

[grizzled latch]

might be premade towns there for quests though

[late vale]

a stretch

but u should be able to build upon big isle

isles

[umbral laurel]

Do you think the oceananic/ship stuff will be like BDO?

[toxic rock]

any mod can dm me please?

[late vale]

better

[umbral laurel]

Personally im hoping there is a little bit of assassins creed black flag in there. i would love for my crew to sing shanties

[grizzled latch]

alot of the content is pulled from BDO so its possible that the route they are taking eventually

[late vale]

Have u played

odyssey?

[umbral laurel]

I wonder if there will be smaller vessels single players can make, I had the hardest time in BDO getting a ship solo.

[digital yacht]

there is 3 confirmed ships atm

Sloops mid ship and galleons

[umbral laurel]

what is the definition of a 'sloop' like a small fishing boat, so to speak?

[digital yacht]

basically a 1 person ship

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ships

1-3 person ship

not called sloop my b

no name for it yet

[umbral laurel]

yay! thank you!

Any word on a mount that you can carry a friend around with? with what i saw from current footage doesnt look like that will be possible. Furthering the Idea, i know they dont want travel to be easy, but would be cool if there was like a carriage that acted like a 'taxi' that could be attacked, like they used to do to trains (i know that is the convoy system, i mean for people specifically, especially people of interest)

[digital yacht]

there is group moujtns confirmed

[umbral laurel]

Is it like an actual mount you have to earn, or will it be like a special saddle you can craft to sit 2?

[crisp holly]

When you are corrupted and killing monsters to get rid of it. Does it act like XP debt and you can't level up until you are not corrupt? Or do you work off your corruption and gain xp at the same time?

[crystal beacon]

@umbral laurel That we don't know yet, but likely a specific mount(s)

[toxic rock]

ToS says I can buy "Coins" as an in game currency. Does this mean embers from the account page?

[umbral laurel]

It would be cool to have both, i can only imagine there will be 'large' or 'larger' mounts, would be nice to have mount equipment as in depth as the backpack they show on the wiki

I know Steven and the Team speak highly of feedback, where do we submit that/ideas?

[unkempt depot]

How will the game work with out an auto attack? It feels like melee will scale worse than other games potentially.

[umbral laurel]

to my knowledge, from what they have shown, and spoke of, there is no auto attack, you will need to use a 'main' ability for your weapon/attack

[unkempt depot]

Is the cooldown of the abilities tied to the weapon speed then? Like if the attack has a 2 sec cooldown and bigger weapons can attack at the same rate as faster ones. I wonder how weapon damage will impact that

[toxic rock]

Euphorrix i think i heard differently about auto attacks

[umbral laurel]

i swore steven just mentioned it in one of the recent streams/interviews

[unkempt depot]

ya he said no auto attacks

But I wonder how cooldowns will be governed then with diferent weapons likely having different high end damage or DPS

[toxic rock]

im going to investiage and find it

[umbral laurel]

there was something about allocating skills to the weapon to mod the attack/skills, and then he spoke of some basic mmo augments like attack speed

[unkempt depot]

If a big weapno is slower and has more top end damage than a faster one but they attack at the same rate with abilities it seems weird. Unless all weapons regardless of type have the same exact damage range

[umbral laurel]

i would assume weapons are like armor, anyone can use anything, however certain things would make more sense for your class

[unkempt depot]

Well, look at "backstab". if I could backstab with a two hand sword vs a dagger I would expect to do more damage.

So I wonder if abilities are uniquely tied to the weapon

[umbral laurel]

i believe what you are asking is base dmg vs attack speed, which is something i have yet to hear details on

[unkempt depot]

My big thing is no auto attack = you click a button to auto attack. It seems there are cooldowns on attacks from the gameplay. So, if I use a dagger vs using a sword will my ability to press the "attack" button be the same for both.

maybe?

[umbral laurel]

that would make sense. not too much is known about the combat system yet. i hope that there is more details on this in fridays stream

[cerulean atlas]

either way the combat system will be ongoing for a bit

[toxic rock]

can i post a youtube link with a time stamp?

Steven says, "we are going to have an auto attack feature, by the way" (end quote)

[umbral laurel]

so then a simple main basic weapon attack is what they are clicking in the gameplay?

[toxic rock]

interview from july 19th

https://youtu.be/H0LQSMT83L0?t=3375

[unkempt depot]

ok, that is good

[umbral laurel]

it sounds like he said 'we dont have one btw'

and if you look on screen, they are mashing the button to the far left

idk, i dont work here xD just a fan boy

"you have to actively press that attack to use it"

[toxic rock]

i stand corrected, cc on the video. He does say we dont have an auto attack feature by the way

[brazen tartan]

What about Turkey server

[toxic rock]

i missheard, sorry

[umbral laurel]

youre good! 🙂 i just watch Amsongold, and he perked up when he said that haha

servers will be based on need as time comes, he said something about the EU one being in germany and there will be an asain/oceanic, if i recall correctly in singapore? pardon spelling

[brazen tartan]

Nearest location for me is germany should i need to pay subscription money as euro?

[toxic rock]

Im still curious about the buying ingame currency. Clarity on if coins refers to gold or embers, please

[umbral laurel]

he said there will be the 'harmony' payment that all other mmos have standard, i think he used brazil as an example

not sure about coins, only coins i know of are monster coins, which buying them would be P2W. i know a few packs have had them

[brazen tartan]

I hope i will pay as dolar because euro so expensive

[cerulean igloo]

will grinding mobs be a good way to level up

[toxic rock]

leveling will be slow by design

and good is subjective

[glass yew]

Anyone have any idea (or guesses on) how many alt characters one account will be able to have at once?

[umbral laurel]

he explained that 'harmony' payments will be equal to that countries market value, much like other games have done, its a standard

[cerulean igloo]

i know it'll be slow, but i was wondering if they've commented on the main form of leveling (ie, questing or ginding)

[brazen tartan]

Thank you @umbral laurel

[umbral laurel]

'leveling' will be subject to your adventuring class, which he said based on the math they ran a while ago, was 45 days, 4-6 hours a day, assuming this is through all mob/killing/questing combined

some people might want to focus on leveling professions

[toxic rock]

bonus xp for being in a party. Does that apply to a dungeon or just open world?

[umbral laurel]

he said something about a multiplier, but it was like max 1.3 or 1.4 based on size of party? im not sure though

i read on here that there was such a thing as rested xp though

[toxic rock]

oh right, asmongold forgot to ask that

[late vale]

1.5ish

[toxic rock]

1.5 per party member or 1.5 max for 2 -8 people?

[umbral laurel]

from what asmongold was saying, was its like wow

[late vale]

Max but Idk how it scales

[toxic rock]

thansk

[late vale]

Np

But only killing xp is shared

[crisp holly]

@glass yew we've not been given a number. Just told that we can have a "comfortable" number per account. Some people are guessing that might be 8 and it will likely be at least 3

[umbral laurel]

i would assume since we cannot change base class, they will allow us to play 1 of every class

[late vale]

Asmonbold

Maybe

But this gamr dosnt strike me as alt friendly

[glass yew]

@crisp holly Thanks

[umbral laurel]

i can see them not allowing that at first though. and agreed

[crisp holly]

Yeah, it might be a year after launch that we can have more than 4 per account or something

[late vale]

So be sure that u like ur main class

[crisp holly]

Or you get to remake your toon :p

[umbral laurel]

tis why i want in the alpha so bad, im about to buy the voyager pack next week

i would imagine if you can change your family, you can change you class, but it will take time and effort

[digital yacht]

u cant hcange ur main class

[crisp holly]

^

[late vale]

There is a thing called being civilized and showing some restrain

Some

[upbeat jolt]

I expect 4 slots free and 4 to buy

[digital yacht]

@upbeat jolt therewont be anything liuke that to buy

[upbeat jolt]

Who knows

[digital yacht]

u cant buy bag slots char slots nothing considered Pay2Conveineence

i know

[upbeat jolt]

I said what I'm expecting

[digital yacht]

it wont happen

they will give us a comfortable amount

so prob 8 slots

[late vale]

And quest items are Apart

[cerulean atlas]

there hasn't been anything concrete yet on how many we can have per account, but I'd imagine at least 8 or 10

[upbeat jolt]

And what happens when they add a new class? Or is that never gonna happen?

[digital yacht]

no more than 8

[cerulean atlas]

64 classes, probably good lol

[digital yacht]

@upbeat jolt no1 will need more then 8 slots

if enough ppl need more they will prob just up it a year later

[upbeat jolt]

Shameless! I need 12

[marble basin]

Question: apocalypse is meant to return with castle siege and horde chapters right?

[cerulean atlas]

yes

[digital yacht]

@marble basin thats the plan but not 100$ confimred

100%

[vale portal]

is there a possibility there will be a life time subscription option?

[digital yacht]

@vale portal no that was KS exclusive

[marble basin]

Was apoc available to anyone or did you have to buy in?

[digital yacht]

@marble basin f2p

[fringe falcon]

is apoc still ava?

[cerulean atlas]

no

[digital yacht]

no

[fringe falcon]

rip

[vale portal]

ok thanks

[cerulean atlas]

that was for testing core systems

[fringe falcon]

yeah ik, just wondering xD

[cerulean atlas]

we will see it again for when they test more core systems

[digital yacht]

might

[cerulean atlas]

like siege mode and horde mode

^

[fringe falcon]

gotcha

[junior pagoda]

Has there been any indication to the numbers of professions that will be available or discoverable at launch?

Like non standard ones, is it possible more will be added?

[wary coyote]

That info should ve out

[digital yacht]

we dont have a complete list

@junior pagoda all wehave so far https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes

[solid sparrow]

will there be voice acting, cutscenes etc on quests and events?
Asking this for someone else. I wasnt able to find any info on it on the wiki. I know there will be written story but cant find anything on cutscenes or voice acting

[digital yacht]

dont think we have 100% confirmation

[solid sparrow]

yeah didn't think so, I'll give them the generic wiki link and say we have to wait

[crystal beacon]

Voice Acting is very expensive so I imagine if there is any it will be quite minimal

[junior pagoda]

Cooking should be pretty epic, given taverns and meaningful buffs

[umbral laurel]

probably too specific to ask now - in relation to the tavern buffs, will the player that has the land also receive the buff? it would make sense, especially in proximity

[digital yacht]

we dont know

[umbral laurel]

ok, dont mind me. I'm just watching chat while i play games, to get ideas from others questions/answers provided

is there a specific spot that the fan base can submit feedback/ideas? i asked earlier but never got a precise answer

[full badger]

Asking this for someone else. I wasnt able to find any info on it on the wiki. I know there will be written story but cant find anything on cutscenes or voice acting
@solid sparrow There will be general NPC chatter that is voice acted, but none of the quests will be.

is there a specific spot that the fan base can submit feedback/ideas? i asked earlier but never got a precise answer
@umbral laurel The forums are the best bet for that

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/aoc-general-discussion

[umbral laurel]

so no ticket/submission system? just hope for a high bump to be noticed by senpai?? xD

[digital yacht]

not atm but prob in game

[umbral laurel]

random, Shadow are you with the wiki team or intrepid?

[digital yacht]

neither only ppl with intrepid are yellow

and orange

Red is Volunteer mods

[umbral laurel]

thanks 🙂 how long have you been following AoC?

[digital yacht]

since KS

[umbral laurel]

i sadly came in on the Asmongold hype train, but Steven's passion and ideas have me hooked. I heard about this a while ago, but never opened the door sadly, which i regret. My friend showed me Oath, and now i feel dirty

Cool! im jealous

[lyric glade]

shadow, can i ask something about bard abilities?

[digital yacht]

we know nothing

[lyric glade]

i mean how developers see them

idk what is bard's wordsmithing and acting so im not sure how to translate it

[digital yacht]

all we know v

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bard

[lyric glade]

thats just a text, i mean developers vision

[digital yacht]

how would i know?

i aint no dev

[umbral laurel]

from the pre alpha game play, they said potentially HoTs, and support abilites, but nothing major, cleric is the main healer

[lyric glade]

though there any chance that you saw some streams and know

[digital yacht]

im just like u i know as much as u

[lyric glade]

okay

is it ok to slap with @ developers?

[full badger]

They won't respond

[digital yacht]

why they wont tell u anything

u will find out when they are ready to tell

[lyric glade]

okay

[lofty verge]

From what I gathered. bards will be healing over time, an healing in sort of aura or radius based on distance, which would also apply to buffs, which will be situational and be changed depending on the flow of the battle. Wanting the bard to be more active in battle rather than passive.

[lyric glade]

ye i know that

[umbral laurel]

thats sadly all we know

im intrigued too! i main tank, sub heal classes

[lyric glade]

i just have some troubles with wordsmithing and acting
Idk how it should look like, so i have no idea what is it and how to translate it

[umbral laurel]

we will have a better understanding once the second archtypes become developed and introduced

imo, wordsmithing sounds like a complicated way to say cast

[lofty verge]

yeah I dont know how thats relevant here. You wont be actually having to manually type out songs or do elaborated dances to play a bard. lol

[digital yacht]

yea u will

[junior pagoda]

If you choose to be an orc, can you also choose your initial spawn location into the world to be the underrealm? Or will you have to start in a Ren'Kai or Vek location first then travel to the underrealm

[digital yacht]

@junior pagoda u can spawn whever u want

[umbral laurel]

would be cool if you can make your own songs like in paper mario! lol

[digital yacht]

between the 5 spawn points

[junior pagoda]

ty

[lyric glade]

isn't it wierd that orc can spawn with elf?

[digital yacht]

they didnt wanna isolate ppl from their friends

[crystal flax]

All the races (except Tulnar) were together in Sanctus, so not really

[lofty verge]

depends in what context. Orcs arent always the antagonist of elves in every setting.

[lyric glade]

ye but its kind of cliche

[digital yacht]

@lyric glade would u be ok with travelling 3 hours to meet ur friend bc u picked different races?

now how do u think guilds feel

[lofty verge]

dont see how that wold be wierd.

[lyric glade]

like wow classic start?

[rose plover]

Orcs can be pretty hot go watch the slime anime

[junior pagoda]

Kinda wonder if there will be hidden achievements. If you play 700 hours in the underrealm without going above ground you earn an achievement which gives you bioluminescence when in the underrealm.

[lofty verge]

Even in wow Classic you still had to travel to the other race starting place.

[lyric glade]

well its an old game from 2003

[lofty verge]

but you brought it up though.

From what gathered, you can directly pick where you want to start.

[digital yacht]

@lofty verge thats bc they wanted it to be as close to OG wow as possible

[junior pagoda]

SWG let you choose any city on any planet I believe.

[lyric glade]

so i got it, wordsmithing can be something like a regular spellcast
what about acting? Is it about dancing?

[junior pagoda]

I chose Mos Eisly, but I could have chosen Thied, no matter my race.

[lyric glade]

just what come first to your mind?

[nimble aspen]

What we know so far is that the races are returning to this world through the Divine Gateways (how you start the game) so it's not like you are starting at the ancient home of a race, more just the entry point of a portal from another world

[true scaffold]

Will the game support ray tracing?

[young spindle]

Is there a way to get the alpha 1 or 2 keys?

[crystal flax]

A2 can be bought, A1 can't be bought currently but they may open it back up

[last oak]

I'm sure we'll see ray tracing as a option.

[paper notch]

How close to tera combat system is AoC combat system ?

[crisp holly]

No idea, alpha 1 will be when to the combat system will be tested and decided on.

[paper notch]

So there's no final basic combat system

[digital yacht]

the combat system is already decided but its subject to change

[crisp holly]

Not yet beside a combo of action and tab

[digital yacht]

its a mix of ACtion and Tab target

[paper notch]

That's hard to achieve, is there going to be videos of the alpha 1 combat system soon ?

[digital yacht]

yes when alpha 1 starts u will see streamers

there is a dev update at the end of the month as well

📺 Tune in next Friday, July 31 at 11AM PDT as we share the latest look at our development updates on Twitch! https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/44844/next-development-update-live-stream-friday-july-31-2020-at-11am-pdt/p1

[paper notch]

Oh ok , thank you very much !

[digital yacht]

u mgiht see a bit of the combat but i dont think they have the hybrid system fully functional atm

[paper notch]

Yeah i believe that , it's hard to manage a fully functional hybrid system

[digital yacht]

its there but it might not be where they wan it to be

[pliant ocean]

It does seem like they are having some difficulty nailing down the combat. But a lot of time spent working on making combat great is the correct way to go imo.

[paper notch]

True , i just find it difficult to see how a 75% combat vs a 75% tabbed player are equal in a 1v1 combat

It's like playing against an aimbot isn't it ?

[digital yacht]

not really

u dont have to be 75/25 tho

Action combat has stronger CCs

Action combat = Hard CC
Tab Target Combat = Soft CC

if ur an aim god action combat is alot easier to get Headshots(crits)

[umbral laurel]

also tab will be stuff like fireball, where as action could be aoe

i would like to see a skill shot snipe for ranger

[digital yacht]

there will be

[ruby vector]

Which do you think is the best tier to buy at preorder?

[digital yacht]

250$ if u dont care about cosmetics

[umbral laurel]

im going the $250 pack

[digital yacht]

a2 will be the best time to test imo

[umbral laurel]

agreed

[ruby vector]

when will be a2?

[digital yacht]

a2 is after alpha 1

[umbral laurel]

TBD, after the last time line they projected, they are being really reserved

[ruby vector]

alpha 1?

[paper notch]

Thanks @digital yacht for the explanation

[umbral laurel]

speculation is 6 month periods of each. A1 is this fall

[ruby vector]

Thanks 👍

[digital yacht]

a1 could be 3 months or 24 months u never know

depends on if they are happy with the state to the point of moving on to the next stage

[umbral laurel]

exactly, they are taking their time, and i respect and appreciate that. however also why i want in on the A2 round

[ruby vector]

A2 will have some kind of nda?

[digital yacht]

no

a1 wont either

[ruby vector]

Awesome.

[timid mason]

I think the family system can be used in a way that it takes 2-5mins and lock your character animation to summon your family members and it will be visible on the map, in case zergs want to ambush someone

[umbral laurel]

they are that confident in it! which makes this all the more exciting!!

[ruby vector]

Any info about localization?

[umbral laurel]

like servers?

[paper notch]

server localization ?

[ruby vector]

Language

[digital yacht]

@ruby vector https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions#Localization

[ruby vector]

Thanks! hard for spanish then. xD with latin america and spain being in different continents

[umbral laurel]

still unclear on family summon, i think they said like up to 8 people a family, and each can only summon 1 person in a set time, you can leave a family but it will take time to reallocate yourself to another, at least that was my impression of it

[paper notch]

Isn't it in days ?

Like the wait time

[umbral laurel]

i think the sound byte said 'days' to reallocate into another family

[paper notch]

yeah i think so too

[umbral laurel]

i bet there will be a family summon CD, otherwise you can summon all 8 people, and have a few people patrol from dif familes in a guild, however i think they also mentioned that could be used as a strat

[glossy siren]

question will it be a buy it once kind of deal or will you need to keep paying

[umbral laurel]

the game is no box cost, only sub, no plan to charge for xpacks, unless you were referring to something else

[glossy siren]

damn that sucks

[umbral laurel]

cheaper than WoW

[glossy siren]

yeah

[umbral laurel]

and much better quality

[glossy siren]

but i just don't like subs

i will still play

[umbral laurel]

same, but it will pay for future ongoing development

he said they have lots of ideas for new content post launch

i would like to see a cloud city

[paper notch]

is there going to be a free try out version ?

Like from level 1 to 5 or something

[umbral laurel]

at this stage, i doubt that is even on radar

[rugged dock]

prob not for awhile

[paper notch]

yeah ok

[umbral laurel]

would make sense to allow for it, however i think thats what the NDA is for with streamers, i know asmongold will make a lot of content with it to show it off

[pliant ocean]

They might do that if they end up needing more population for servers. But I doubt they are even thinking of that right now.

[umbral laurel]

steven told him 'i might know a guy who can get you a key'

i think he said 50k a server, expected 8-10k on at a time

[glossy siren]

"key" how would they work

[paper notch]

No but i mean , not like a fully unlocked version , but more like a "try out"

[quiet kelp]

Is there any information on how the combat is going to work? Game looks great, but at the end of the day the combat is going to make or break it.

[glossy siren]

would it be like a ticket to let you in for a time

[umbral laurel]

again, too early to say, and thats all up to devs, who are more worried about making the game then post launch features

[digital yacht]

There is no trial version on launch

If u have access to the alphas or betas u will play during that time

[paper notch]

ok ok

[umbral laurel]

my plan (before i decided i was to buy a pack) was find a streamer i liked to get content that way

[quiet kelp]

Asmongold lol

[digital yacht]

Ye u have plenty of time to make decision like Steven said don’t spend ur money until u see the game

[umbral laurel]

yep xD

[somber minnow]

You can only buy beta bundles right? And beta is in 2021 right?

[digital yacht]

U can buy into alpha 2 atm

[umbral laurel]

before his interveiws, i didnt realize how disrespected i was as a gamer, the dog reference hurt a bit

[somber minnow]

And when is the beta?

[digital yacht]

No idea

After alpha 2 which is after alpha 1

[quiet kelp]

How do you buy into the Alpha?

[digital yacht]

They have no approximate dates

Their website

[glossy siren]

then how do the packs work if i buy one do i get the game for like 3 months or something or is it just you can play before other poeple

[digital yacht]

The packs only give u access to the tests

[ruby vector]

@quiet kelp ashesofcreation.com

[digital yacht]

The packs do come with sub time that start on launch so if u bought a pack that has 3 months of game time ur first 3 months of sub are paid for

[umbral laurel]

the pack details on site tell you what they come with

cosmetics rotate each promo period, this one ends aug-5th

i know it wasnt asked, but you can upgrade to the next level pack to and pay the difference

and they will announce when A2 access is going away

[silent island]

When nodes are destroyed are they reduced to level 0

[cerulean surge]

Just a quick question if I was to role play a berserker would that be possible in AoC and where class would be best suited for this ?

[steep harbor]

before his interveiws, i didnt realize how disrespected i was as a gamer, the dog reference hurt a bit
@umbral laurel true

[umbral laurel]

if successfully destroyed, i believe nodes go back to 0

[silent island]

Oh really

[umbral laurel]

not much is known of classes, second arch types havent been revealed much information yet

[silent island]

Won’t it suck to have all your progress of many months reduced to zero

[umbral laurel]

thats part of the fun

[cerulean surge]

I don’t believe it will be zero

[umbral laurel]

you work together as a society to defend what is yours

[cerulean surge]

Maybe reduced to a previous lvl of development

[silent island]

What I am afraid of is a Zerg sieging everything

[umbral laurel]

thats what declarations are for and prime time plays

[silent island]

It would be nice if the siege doesn’t provide any direct benefits for the attackers

Except node development for nearby nodes

[umbral laurel]

then there would be no incentive

[cerulean surge]

They have access to raw materials

[pliant ocean]

Zerging will be difficult in AoC. The only way I can see it working, is an entire guild running across Verra all together. And something like that willl raise suspicion and you'd likely know they are coming.

[umbral laurel]

or maybe in a caravan!

[silent island]

Caravan can carry people??

[umbral laurel]

just a random thought

he did say. used for more than moving resources

[silent island]

Yeah lol that sounds scary

Trojans caravan

[umbral laurel]

exactly what i was thinking!

[sick eagle]

I'ma b honest if a node went back to 0 after a siege I probably wouldn't play in that node anymore.

[umbral laurel]

same, move on to more content

[sick eagle]

Like that's a lot man

[silent island]

Yeah

[umbral laurel]

i wanna be a nomad and attack nodes with others >:D

[sick eagle]

Imagine barely being to metro and then boom. Back to starting

[pliant ocean]

That is the point. Have the world constantly changing. So it doesn't seem like the same old same old all the time.

[silent island]

He also told the ones from the start of the node will have biggest houses

I agree

But the difficulty of building a node is much more than destroying it

[hardy bolt]

You get 2 or so days notice before they can attack you

[sick eagle]

@pliant ocean a changing world doesn't have to be one that cucks you for something out of your control

[hardy bolt]

so you can prep defenses and maybe get people to help

its not just on the spot they decide to destroy your node

[silent island]

If sieging as as difficult as building a node to that level

Then it’s fun and fair

Both sides should risk something

[sick eagle]

I agree

[pliant ocean]

Node Sieges are relatively rare. You will see more wars against lowly tier 1-3 nodes, than you will see full on sieges against tier 5 and 6 nodes.

[silent island]

Is there something in place to prevent sieging spree

Like a cooldown

[pliant ocean]

Stage 3: Village - ~ 20 days
Stage 4: Town - ~ 30 days
Stage 5: City - ~ 40 days
Stage 6: Metropolis - ~ 50 days

[nimble aspen]

It sounded like the resource investment to even set up a node was quite high, so that investment (of both time and resources) is the initial risk made by the attackers

[pliant ocean]

That is the time between node sieges, based on the size of it

The minimum time*

[umbral laurel]

i think they said like 2-5 day declaration period, and then a cd up to 50 days

[silent island]

Oh okk thanks

So only the weaker nodes can get crushed

Seems fair

[hardy bolt]

higher cd with higher lvl node

[umbral laurel]

on successful defense

[viral lintel]

higher investment, so it makes sense

[silent island]

Do the nodes have something like npc soldiers or automatic cannons

Yea I agree

[pale glade]

Does anyone know impactful the racial abilities and stats will be? Would be a shame if it would force people into meta for specific race class.

[pliant ocean]

The Mayor can hire guards/soldiers, and build defences.

[viral lintel]

nobody is ever forced into a meta

[lucid igloo]

there will always be a meta

[viral lintel]

you're doing this to yourself

[lucid igloo]

no matter the game

[viral lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrV6epi1TYk

[pliant ocean]

The only race so far that has a slight advantage is the Dunir. Because they are short. Other than that, any race can play any class.

[lucid igloo]

its just a matter of what you want out of the game

[silent island]

Do the siegers have a CD

[lucid igloo]

from what i understood dont they have to go through quite alot to get the seige scroll?

[silent island]

Or can they siege some other node after failing

I hope so

[pliant ocean]

Yeah. It is a quest line to obtain the siege scroll. Then there is a long cast time to activate it.

[silent island]

Nice!

[pliant ocean]

Which can be interupted

[silent island]

So we can invade them to cancel cast

Yeah another query

Can we expect the graphics to be on par with what they showed in the trailers of castle siege

Or are those only for the trailers

[viral lintel]

wasnt that ingame footage from apoc?

[grim breach]

Same engine, same assets

[viral lintel]

yea, so no difference

hopefully some less kitschy armor tho

[silent island]

Will there be no difference in implementing them to an mmo from battle royale?

Because those look pretty amazing to me

[viral lintel]

what do you mean with "them"?

graphics?

[silent island]

Yes

[viral lintel]

they're the same

[silent island]

Oh ok

Thank you

[viral lintel]

whats not the same is the targeting/combat system

[cloud nymph]

The graphics will be improved a lot prob over the next years

[viral lintel]

i dunno how much improvement the graphics actually need

[silent island]

That would be amazing

[viral lintel]

animations, yeah

but the graphics look pretty solid to me

[silent island]

Yeah I’m happy with that too

[crystal beacon]

Does anyone know when preorders are going to be available for Europe again?

[cloud nymph]

You can still preorder the packages on their website, cant you?

And it will be moved or something

[crystal beacon]

The prices are different tho

[viral lintel]

afaik you can buy em off the website directly if you want to

[sharp wing]

They still have packages on the store. Don't expect others to be added though.

[crystal beacon]

Suffering from success

[cloud nymph]

Hmm dno about that zod, i have only seen the packages from the official website

[silent flare]

Will there be enough space in the map on a server for all 10,000 players to have a freehold? Curious how difficult it’ll be to get one

[umbral laurel]

i think that pack offer is old?

land will be 1 plot per account

[cloud nymph]

That map is huge from what i understood, but prob not all players i guess

[pliant ocean]

There will probably only be a handful of freeholds per node. Is my guess. So whatever that number is multiplied by 103 nodes.

[sharp wing]

@silent flare Not 10,000 but there is supposed to be "ample" room.

[nimble aspen]

10k players is the concurrent amount, there will be a lot more character on a server total

[silent flare]

Well the node has to be tier 3 to have freeholds, right? So idk how many could get to tier 3

[pliant ocean]

^that also

[silent flare]

Ah 10k is a lot concurrent

[cloud nymph]

50k ish total accounts on the server

[silent flare]

Hopefully it’ll be easier to get housing than ffxiv

[warm cairn]

It's gonna be insane like archeage probably lmao

[nimble aspen]

As there are instanced appartments, the freeholds aren't the only type of housing available!

[pliant ocean]

There will be plenty of room with instanced housing. Might be tough to get node housing or freeholds though.

[silent island]

Instanced housing depends on the mayor right

[sharp wing]

@silent island yes the mayor has to build the building

[pliant ocean]

Yes.

[silent island]

I’m guessing bad mayors won’t be a problem as the elections are frequent

[pliant ocean]

But Mayors ill want people coming to their nodes. So they would be silly not to build housing.

[silent flare]

Freeholds aren’t the only housing but they are the one I want the most. Plus instanced apartments will also be limited unlike ffxiv

[sharp wing]

The game is 180miles^2 which equals 115,200 acres. freeholds take up 1/2 an acre. expect there to be a decent amount scattered across the nodes.

[silent flare]

Didn’t they say like 50 instanced apartments per node or something

[sharp wing]

They would not sell skins to a freehold if the majority of the player base did not have the ability to use them.

[pliant ocean]

If you look hard enough, I can almost bet that there will be very little effort to find some sort of housing.

For example. You may miss out on the nodes around you, but you may be able to travel to a different region for housing. If you need it bad enough.

[viral lintel]

with 10k players, all spots will be gone within days

within 1 day

[silent flare]

I don’t mind it being a bit hard, I just don’t want to have to play for 16hrs a day and play in a top guild just to get housing

[sharp wing]

@viral lintel incorrect

[viral lintel]

care to elaborate?

[silent flare]

The nodes won’t get to t3 in one day so

[viral lintel]

well that being the one and only limitation

[sharp wing]

^what he said and the materials needed to make a freehold

[viral lintel]

people will nolife the game and have the stuff needed

[sharp wing]

They arent supposed to be particular easy to construct so we've been told

[viral lintel]

and with 10k people on the server, you bet theres enough jobless to do that

[pliant ocean]

Anyone here not yet make an account?

[silent flare]

don’t rep your referral code

[viral lintel]

did it ever matter in the history of online gaming, what a player is supposed to do?

[sharp wing]

Expect 50k on a server. 10k concurrently

[crystal beacon]

@cloud nymph that's an official website by my.com, an agreed publisher in Europe and Russia :) aocreation.com

[sharp wing]

@viral lintel Obviously estimated expectations will be broken. And there will be a landrush. But it will be nothing like the archeage one.

[silent flare]

5 freeholds per node sounds low

[viral lintel]

i dont think we can confidentally make preditions yet, but just experience tells me that people come prepared, with account sharing in big, organized groups. they'll have studied the map beforehand and set it all up so they can grab swathes of land and claim everything

[sharp wing]

It will be much higher than 5 freeholds per node.

[viral lintel]

and dont forget, guilds get extra treatment

[rancid venture]

I was looking on the wiki and I say this.
What does it mean

[sharp wing]

Steven is quoted saying "ample room" for freeholds. Don't worry

[viral lintel]

you a solo player? too bad, you're not priority

[cloud nymph]

@crystal beacon ah i see, you will prob be able to preorder soon on that website, but i think they said that you can buy on the official one and it transfer over. Not 100% sure though

[viral lintel]

steven is an experienced player, but not an experienced dev. i bet he'll be surprised a lot in these years following release.

[sharp wing]

@rancid venture Can you link the post? I want to check the reference. I am unfamilar with that.

[silent flare]

@viral lintel I think you’re right that people will attempt this, but others will also try to disrupt them

[pliant ocean]

@viral lintel He has some VERY experienced and high-caliber devs with Him though.

[crystal beacon]

@cloud nymph yes, the official website says so

[viral lintel]

a small group of dedicated people might be able to delay a zerg for a bit, but are there enough dedicated saboteurs to stop all zergs? i doubt that, and people determined to stop big guilds do so by sacrificing their own progression, making their characters obsolete in the progress

[rancid venture]

Tulnar eat many things

@Steven 😇

[crystal beacon]

Russian website (also official) offers prices that are 4 times lower though, for access to the same alpha 1, beta 1 and 2 testing phases, that sounds like a good deal but not available atm

[sharp wing]

Pricing is region based. If you do purchase your game time or package at a different rate than the standard (russian for example) you will be locked to those servers.

[crystal beacon]

@sharp wing > will be locked
But only after the game release, right?

And before that, during the test, you get to play with everyone else?

[brisk hawk]

Will you be able to play music with instruments in the game? (like it was possible in guild wars 2 before november 2018 for example until anet butchered it)

[sharp wing]

@crystal beacon I'm not sure how testing servers will be done. I dont think he talked about that specific only after release.

[crystal beacon]

My point is I want to know the game before release, and if I can do so by paying less, that would be preferable. After release I'm going to play on European servers and pay euro subscription anyways.

[dark jungle]

@brisk hawk bards may be able to play instruments, yes

[sharp wing]

@crystal beacon I'd make a support ticket for that or DM one of the community managers on discord.

[brisk hawk]

it's actually one of the major reasons why I wanna check out FF XIV lol
because you're still able to make music there (unlike in gw2 sadly)

[crystal beacon]

@sharp wing alright, thank you for replying :)

[sharp wing]

@silent flare There will be a lot.

[silent flare]

Thanks for grabbing that

[teal zephyr]

@silent flare there will also be instanced houses

if the other houses are taken up

[silent island]

Instanced housing not as exciting as free hold tho

[teal zephyr]

i agree 100%

[silent flare]

Freehold is what I want most though. And even the instanced housing will be limited iirc

[teal zephyr]

just saying theres options atleast

[silent island]

Yeah

[sharp wing]

instanced houseing will not be limited. But there is a catch to it. The more there are in a node the higher the price goes.

[silent island]

Will instanced housing upgrade over time?

[teal zephyr]

game honestly seems so amazing that its either too good to be true or wont be done until 2060 lol

[cloud acorn]

@crystal beacon No NDA alpha 1 with streamers streaming the game before the end of the year

Is what Steven said

[silent island]

They have showed us most of the working systems by now

I think it will take at most 5 more years

[sharp wing]

@silent island Yes. So as the node levels up so does your apartment.

[silent island]

Unless something goes wrong like in 2019

[teal zephyr]

5 years is a long long time haha

[silent island]

@sharp wing thanks for answering

[dawn mango]

Do we know what questing will look like im Ashes? Will they be linear stories, recurring (daily?), procedurally generated?

[sharp wing]

Do we know what questing will look like im Ashes? Will they be linear stories, recurring (daily?), procedurally generated?
@dawn mango All of the above.

[pliant ocean]

Full Release in 2022 is my best guess.

[pseudo merlin]

some quests will be from NPCs, others from other players

[sharp wing]

Full Release in 2022 is my best guess.
@pliant ocean Wise estimate 😉

[pliant ocean]

Unless another Corona Virus happens.

[pseudo merlin]

NPC quest givers may be hard to find so you gotta get out of the way to explore the map a little

[silent island]

@pliant ocean yeah I agree

[pseudo merlin]

for quests given by other players, there'll be a bulletin board in the tavern that lets you accept tasks from them if i remember correctly

[lucid igloo]

ok so im definitely pre ordering the game but do you guys have thoughts on whether or not i should go for the 150 package or the 250 package, i think it would be really cool to be able to play in the alpha and either are reasonably affordable for me

[silent island]

I don’t think corona affected their schedule at all actually

[dawn mango]

@pseudo merlin thanks so much!

[pseudo merlin]

@lucid igloo it depends on whether you want the freehold cosmetic or not

[grim breach]

In fact, they said working from have have improved their productivity significantly.

[sharp wing]

ok so im definitely pre ordering the game but do you guys have thoughts on whether or not i should go for the 150 package or the 250 package, i think it would be really cool to be able to play in the alpha and either are reasonably affordable for me
@lucid igloo I recommend you buy the cheaper one to start. You can always upgrade up to a certain date. This is coming from someone who has the royalty pack.

[teal zephyr]

isnt there going to be a sea/ship system as well?

[pseudo merlin]

the difference between packs is more embers and cosmetics

[grim breach]

There will be ships and naval content, yes.

[pseudo merlin]

@teal zephyr also underwater dungeons

[silent island]

And underwater

[teal zephyr]

so crazy, too good to be true lol

[silent island]

Yeah I’m baffled by how good it is

[sharp wing]

Naval / underwater raids as well

[silent island]

But it looks really really promising

[pseudo merlin]

this shows you how good an MMO can be when it's developed not by a big company who just wants to earn money

[silent island]

Maybe this is the next big game

[pseudo merlin]

but by a veteran of the genre passionate to revive the MMORPG

[sharp wing]

Just try and keep this all question based guys 😛

[lucid igloo]

@sharp wing ok cool thats kind of what i was thinking about doing, im just getting really excited to be a part of the community and all

[silent island]

A general mmorpg question

[sharp wing]

No reason to feel like you need to pay to join the community. But I understand wanting to get into alpha haha

[silent island]

What does scaling mean

I saw ppl were very excited to see that it was not in the game

Like asmon

[sharp wing]

@silent island Can you give a context? Usually something increases based on increase in something else

[lucid igloo]

only kind of scaling that i noticed would just be xp scaling for raid bosses and kill quests depending on the party size

[pseudo merlin]

in asmongold's case it means that damage will increase incrementally with level

[umbral laurel]

in general, it means everyone is on the same playing field as far as power goes, sometimes in reference to xp

AoC is built off of the idea of Risk Vs Reward

[lucid igloo]

yeah in the case of the interview questions i think he was referring to the monster lvl scaling with the players lvl

[sharp wing]

^ they hit the nail on the head. basically this game has dungeons you do based on your level. Where as some games just have a few and they scale to your level.

[silent island]

Ahh

[umbral laurel]

WoW is a criminal scaler xD

[silent island]

So more original content?

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[teal zephyr]

also in WoW for instance when you aree doing open world content, they scale to your strength

[silent island]

Nice!

[pseudo merlin]

the dungeons in this game are dynamic too so no one dungeon stay sin one place for too long

[lucid igloo]

AoC is much more focused on player agency

[sharp wing]

Also just so you new comers know. There is no group finder in this game.

[teal zephyr]

it makes it feel a lot worse when the monsters just scale to your gear, making the gear feel kinda pointless

[umbral laurel]

this is a game for the player, of the players, by the players

[pseudo merlin]

remember, everything revolves around the node technology so all content in the world is pretty much in flux all the time

[lucid igloo]

yeah thats one of the most interesting aspects of the whole project

[umbral laurel]

ashes101.com has a lot of good source materials for intro to the universe

[pseudo merlin]

it will be impossible to write a "playthrough" guide or "step by step guide" since locations and items may change so quickly the guides themselve quickly become irrelevant

[patent zealot]

It would be interesting to grind up on a dungeon right before its node gets wiped so you can sell the items for heavily inflated prices

[pseudo merlin]

ashes wiki is great too

[silent island]

@pseudo merlin that’s amazing

I hate wikis to any games

Sorry not wikis

I meant guides

[patent zealot]

Guides can be helpful

[silent island]

Like go there do this and that

[patent zealot]

In BDO it really helped me out when I was starting off

[pseudo merlin]

guides will still exist for this game

just not very specifically written

[silent island]

Oh ok I understand

[patent zealot]

Are there any other good resources about AoC?

[pseudo merlin]

other than the wiki and ashes101?

[lucid igloo]

I'm worried people will come to this game at launch looking for meta guides from the betas and then not find exactly what they're looking for and become lost since they're coming from games like WoW where there IS a best way to do many many things and in this game it'll be much more dynamic in that regard

[umbral laurel]

ashes101 and all of the interveiws, steven is a great, transparent guy

[pseudo merlin]

you can check out some of the content creators' videos in the community media section of chat

Jahlon's videos are very informative and straight to the point

[umbral laurel]

Jahlon is pretty dedicated to this MMO

Jinx!

[patent zealot]

Yeah I came from the interviews, might check out those other videos tho

[silent island]

Another doubt after watching the AMA

They said something about dampening power

[umbral laurel]

Jahlon was answering my questions here when i joined up 🙂

[lucid igloo]

i thought they said there was no dampening

[patent zealot]

Corrupted players get dampened power when they try to PvP in open world

[silent island]

Like 1000 damage dealing 1000 to high xp players

[lucid igloo]

oh yeah

[abstract panther]

Will you be able to customize your UI and are there any plans for addons?