@scenic agate I think only the top 2 are a2
#questions
tired sedge
hasty moss
@scenic agate search ashes of creation in google and go to the official page, then go to the shop
lapis shard
definitely read what's in each pack though
drowsy plaza
Im ok with that... i feel sorry for the spanish only users willing to test and share their thoughs here.
scenic agate
Thanks guys 🙂
tired sedge
I think it’s the 375 and 250 packs
lapis shard
I saw a spanish guild post earlier in #aoc-guild-recruitment maybe that could help
visual forge
@lapis shard if the second class only enhance the main class ones, if i choose tank in main class i will never be able to do descent damages if i'm a bit bored to tank or for leveling alone?
cinder shadow
so it's possible to theoretically make a shipwrite "guild" that focuses on constructing ship parts/upgrades to put up for sale on the market?
drowsy plaza
Is there any way to get and invitation to the game?
I'll love to promote it in my current WoW guild
lapis shard
@visual forge I'm not 100% sure, I did hear in the example of cleric that they make cleric a bit stronger at the start so they can solo level but there's a lot of info we don't know yet
hasty moss
@cinder shadow hard to say if an entire guild would be needed to supply the demand, that is something we cannot predict currently
cinder shadow
that's fair
tired sedge
@visual forge I think if your secondary class is a dps class you will be more like a high dps tank but if tank is your primary you will never be like someone who is a dps primary is how I think it’s going to work not 100% sure
visual forge
yeah i've heard that too, idem for the Fighter-mage but i wanted to be sure before diving deep in the tank spec lol (i will anyway though, shields for life)
thick pendant
anyone know anything about the complexity of class design compared to something like WoW?
lapis shard
@visual forge I'd definitely recommend keeping out an ear for more info then, especially in a2
hasty moss
@drowsy plaza currently the only way is to buy into alpha 2
visual forge
yeah, i'll try to sneak the question to a dev if possible
lapis shard
yea sneaky ama question
sinful nebula
What happen if two people are fighting in world pvp and someone comes and finishes one of them , will he get corrupted ?
tired sedge
There is a lot of people I know who plan on making content and stuff testing in a2
visual forge
or buy a alpha key and hope that there will still be space for me to try it out lol
frozen tartan
I think Steven said in the AMA that your primary class put you in one of [tank-heal-dps] and.your secondary adds flavor to that role to blur a little bit the barriers between the three
lapis shard
@sinful nebula the 2 people fighting will have already been flagged as combatants so I don't think so
remote lake
@sinful nebula I think when you tag someone it will mark you as a pvp'r
tired sedge
Like me personally I plan on testing every class and hopefully giving my opinion on how they play and feel in a2 so people have plenty of time to chose there class
visual forge
yeah, well i only wishes that the tank spec will not be too painfull to level up lol @frozen tartan
frozen tartan
As a healer for life I know that they said the cleric will be balanced as to be able to solo in the early levels. We can safely assume it will be the same for the tanks
hasty moss
@thick pendant too early to say
inner wind
Hello all,i new in here ,very experienced in mmos,if i may ask when a2 will be launched?
tired sedge
I think if you go tank fighter,rouge,mage etc you will do plenty high dps to do any solo content you want and not feel like it just take forever to kill stuff
main mason
your going to have to party it up theres no way around it, it will take time for the first dungeons to populate and who wants to roam the wilderness by themselves, sounds dangerous
eternal mason
@remote lake and what happens if some1 jumps me and we are both not flaged for pvp (the green icon in the graphic) and i kill him for my self defense?
visual forge
btw can we have some personalized titles or nicknames in the game ? ( so in the current title space upon the character if we take wow as example) to gives a bit more of RP
hasty moss
@inner wind no date yet, speculation is some time next year
lapis shard
you can solo technically but the game incentivises team play even more than other mmo's. so while possible you won't get the full experience
visual forge
well i hope so @tired sedge
main mason
@visual forge There is a title system, its tied ti your religion of choice
sinful nebula
What happen if two random player ( not in the same group ) attack and kill another player , for who does the loot goes to ?
inner wind
Tyty. @hasty moss
lapis shard
a noncombatant player won't drop loot, only corrupted players
well, maybe some raw mats 🤔
sinful nebula
yes the mats
visual forge
dang too bad @main mason ^^'
remote lake
@eternal mason I believe they will become corrupted. Shouldn't mark you
crystal beacon
@lapis shard all players drop mats on death regardless of circumstance
visual forge
you'll drop raw mats as main combatant yes
crystal beacon
You’ll drop mats as non-combatant as well
tired sedge
Yeah I agree grouping is 100% the way to@go but if it’s late and I want to grind out 1/2 a level while I listen to a podcast even if I’m a tank I think it will be 100% possible and not feel like I’m handy capped bc I’m a rank or support
hasty moss
@visual forge there will be many ways to get different titles, custom titles have not been discussed but i would assume they won't be a thing to avoid immersion breaking titles
lapis shard
oh right, corrupted players can also drop equipped gear 
crystal beacon
In fact, more than if you are combatant
eternal mason
@remote lake ah ok good to know. so it matters who basicly hits first? xD
sinful nebula
drop mats for anyone to loot ? or is the loot yours if you get the kill and if so how is the loot distribution with strangers
lapis shard
not sure tbh
crystal beacon
@sinful nebula we don’t know yet.
sinful nebula
We should ask that
balmy juniper
whats the guild member cap?
visual forge
wanted to put a "Slowhand" title to my tank character (for the main character of a book)
remote lake
@eternal mason It might be when you dont fight back lol.
crystal beacon
@sinful nebula it’s something that will be decided throughout testing.
hasty moss
@balmy juniper if you spend all your guild points for increasing cap it would be 300
main mason
@tired sedge yeah totally you coud, but Im saying you will be vulnereable, but that is the whole point of the game.
tired sedge
I would think they would have to make the healer then dps and tank then dps feel as if they have the ability to kill stuff just not as well as a dps bc if not there will be very very few tanks and healers and that’s already a easy to see problem in most mmos
remote lake
@lapis shard If a non combatant is attacked by a combatant, does that mark them as well?
crystal beacon
@sinful nebula based on the way the flagging system works loot for player kills will likely go to whoever lands the killing blow but if that doesn’t work out it will be changed
scenic agate
Do guilds need to be the same race?
crystal beacon
@scenic agate nope
candid cipher
any idea when this game is coming out?
scenic agate
Ty
crystal beacon
@candid cipher negative
visual forge
that only marks the attacker if the other plays doesn't fight back @remote lake
eternal mason
i mean i want to fight back. but i was simply not shure if you get punished for doing so. if that would be the case it would be a little scuffed @remote lake
lapis shard
@remote lake
hasty moss
@candid cipher only date we have is a1 this fall
visual forge
if you fight back you're tagged too
crystal beacon
@eternal mason fighting back actually lowers the death penalty you face
tired sedge
@main mason that depends are you going to be able to tank the dps from a dps better then they can tank your dps even tho it is lower bc I’m sure the tank class will be feeled with skills that reduce incoming damage etc
lapis shard
TL;DR be corrupted, get fucked xD
tired sedge
If you attack me and im not flagged I’m following you until you kill me just so you get corrupted
visual forge
i hope that it will be well balanced and a tank could have a chance in a 1v1 if he plays well instead of having an efficiency only in groups ^^'
crystal beacon
Do you guys know if the alpha this fall will be open or closed or like limited access or what
tired sedge
Then I’m going to come kill you so you drop gear
lapis shard
@crystal beacon only available to pack owners
inner wind
Last but not least which is the best site to create forums signature for free? I have 5 years to use such thing!
crystal beacon
@visual forge in games where every class doesn’t have some manner of self healing tanks generally have the upper hand in 1v1 encounters against Dps
eternal mason
@crystal beacon yea i wanted to know if a person that starts a fight with me for a vein for example and we are both non combatant, and i win this fight. do i get combatant even though i didnt start it
tired sedge
I think tanks will be viable in pvp I can see going tank cleric being really good in 1v1 you can’t lose if you can’t die
visual forge
depends of the games but i agree that on certain games it is the case @crystal beacon
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon alpha 1 in fall is currently closed and can no longer be bought in, you can purchase access to alpha 2 on the shop https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
crystal beacon
@eternal mason you have to flag as a combatant to fight another player. *unless that player is already corrupted
@eternal mason you may be confusing combatant status and corrupted status
tired sedge
If they are corrupted you can fight them and stay green
crystal beacon
Aye edited my answer lol
zinc cave
@plucky pawn are you guys not doing apparel anymore? I can not find them on the shop and my shirts are years old and worn out lol.
eternal mason
@remote lake
@lapis shard yea well it looked like i could jsut start a fight with some1 in the graphic. maby i got that wrong
rose mist
Was wondering about the repair system of tool and weapons, will anyone be able repair any tool/weapon of any quality or only a crafter that habe that quality skill level be able to ?
onyx knoll
@eternal mason If you hare non-combatant, and a player comes up and decide to attack you, they have to make themselves combatant. Then they can damage you. You then have the choice of also turning on combatant, and trying to fight back, in which case if they kill you they gain a small amount of your metrials and do not become corrupted since you both were combatant. if you do NOT flag up, and they still kill you then they gain a larger amount of your materials but also become corrupted
main mason
@rose mist a combination of materials needed and a crafter, probably for lower level stuff there will be npc's
eternal mason
@onyx knoll ok that clears it up for me
sage dagger
you loss more exp if you dont flag back as well
real dock
Would repairing be an option at one of those stalls i saw that crafters can set up?
onyx knoll
@rose mist only crafters will be able to repair, and they will need materials to do so. The higher level your gear is the higher level of a crafter you'll need. Some legendary gear might only be able to be repaired by master crafters but that's not yet confirmed
cinder shadow
so with the pvp mechanic in mind, will there be a bounty system built in? and will players be able to contribute in-game currency to the bounty pool of a spcific player?
rose mist
Cool am glad to hear that so crafters will be always in need amd not only for crafting the tools but also to keep them in a good shape. Love it
onyx knoll
@sage dagger @eternal mason correct, you lose xp when you die. You lose more if you die as a non-combatant. (well, technically you gain negative xp, you can never lose an actual level)
@cinder shadow yes https://www.ashes101.com/bountyhunter
cinder shadow
awesome
onyx knoll
@rose mist Yep, it'll also make gatherers a lot more relevant since there will always be a demand for raw materials
sage dagger
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bounty_hunters info is a bit more clear here
onyx knoll
@real dock Yes you can set up a player shop/stall that other players can access even while you're offline to repair their stuff using your character's crafter level
real dock
@onyx knoll I'm assuming it would require mats from the player at that point? or would it deplete from the crafter's stock of inventory?
eternal mason
@onyx knoll sounds like if your a solo suport player or just a casual you maby will have a hard life against other players especialy grps 😮
onyx knoll
@real dock Not sure, they might offer both options? Like you can charge extra for your own mats or they can provide theirs
tame atlas
this has probably been asked before but will this game be on steam or its own launcher? or has it just not been announced yet
onyx knoll
@eternal mason Correct, while it's possible to play solo the game is certainly more focused on player content
visual forge
you do whatever you want i guess, you do the repair, so you fix the prices lol
scenic agate
Where do I find pictures of the races?
onyx knoll
@tame atlas not on steam, it'll have its own launcher
tame atlas
ok ty
visual forge
hope there will be no abuse of it 
onyx knoll
@scenic agate there isn't a lot yet but you can find what we have here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races
@visual forge If you try to bump your prices crazy high, people will just stop coming to you and find an other smith
scenic agate
ty
visual forge
yeah but if people slowly make it higher (for some obscure reason) and everybody does it, we're fucked (that will never happen but that would be pretty bad xD)
rose mist
I feel like even a solo player can find his place and work his way up without a group but yea a group will have it more easy but thats how things are more hands the faster something goes
onyx knoll
solo player will still need to talk with others and share information, too much stuff will be constantly changing for you to really manage to find everything on your own
woeful viper
will the voyager plus pre-order pack change outside of the cosmetics?
main mason
The thing is current MMO are made so that people can play SOLO with almost no repercussion or detriment. Might as well be a normal RPG with some other online people walking around. This game is made to force interaction, no to the extent that is absolutely necessary but that it will be more convenient.
tame atlas
this may sound like a dumb question but will everyone have a chance to get loot from any type of boss or is it just first come first serve kinda thing
crystal beacon
@woeful viper If it does we'll get prior notice, but as far as we know currently, no
@tame atlas I mean, within the same group, the group leader sets loot rules between master loot/need before greed/round robin
full badger
@tame atlas https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Looting
crystal beacon
@tame atlas Outside of groups, first come first serve
tame atlas
ok
full badger
Not quite first come, first served @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
@full badger Well, whichever group/player gets the dps tag on the boss gets the only loot, currently, yes.
onyx knoll
First tag get a bonus damage, but after that it's which ever group does the most damage
frozen tartan
First tag has to do 40% of total damage to get the loot, other parties have to do 60%
cinder shadow
how will the distribution of raw resources be made throughout the world? so if i wanted to gather a bunch of ore to sell to a blacksmith will there be nodes dedicated to specific ores like mines, or will the resources be more scattered in random rocks throughout the game?
onyx knoll
the nodes will be scattered, and then large veins will sometimes spawn in certain locations around the map
they want to encourage information sharing, so if you're wandering around killing mobs and you find a vein you share the info with your guilds/friends and they can get there to gather it up
cinder shadow
so with that i assume that the larger veins of ore will slowly dwindle over time as it would in the real world, in which case players would be forced to find another
eternal mason
@onyx knoll your doing a nice job here. thx for the suport!
onyx knoll
o7 thanks mate
main mason
a smaller portion will be scatered but the vast ammount will be concentrated because loot will be more valuable outside our region, so region with woods will have a loot of trees to chop next to the mountain region that has mines with more ore. This forces the needs for caravan to exchange goods between places
full badger
so with that i assume that the larger veins of ore will slowly dwindle over time as it would in the real world, in which case players would be forced to find another
@cinder shadow correct
rose mist
His doing blessed work 
novel rain
Will there be a fishing boat and other non combat based boats that will be craftable?
cinder shadow
finally an intelligent design system in an mmo for resource gathering..
onyx knoll
@novel rain we don't have a ton of info about the naval stuff yet, they're gona be releasing most of it during alpha 2, but you can craft caravans and ships to be what ever you want them to be from what we know.
full badger
Will there be a fishing boat and other non combat based boats that will be craftable?
@novel rain there may be fishing boats but it isn't confirmed yet
mighty nymph
So lets say, resources will be just like albion, some areas, great wood distribution ?
onyx knoll
never played Albion so I can't draw comparisons, sorry
mighty nymph
nop
novel rain
ok thanks
onyx knoll
But that sounds correct, some areas will be dense forest, so more wood, others will be mountainous so more stone etc
mighty nymph
Thanks or all answers @onyx knoll
green skiff
do you know how will they tackle the quests? like, will there be a quest marker for everything, so that we will just click next next next or will we need to actually read the conversation ( personally i`d prefer the latter, I dont mind reading 😄 )
cinder shadow
@mighty nymph i would imagine from the answer to my question that it would have a pretty similar system as Albion Online
full badger
do you know how will they tackle the quests? like, will there be a quest marker for everything, so that we will just click next next next or will we need to actually read the conversation ( personally i`d prefer the latter, I dont mind reading 😄 )
@green skiff There won't be quest markers
green skiff
great, tnx 🙂
onyx knoll
@mighty nymph @cinder shadow https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gathering this page has all the info if you guys want more detail 🙂
main mason
yes this is huge! love it, back to the good old times where you have to sit in town and start networking to find where the quest line leads
tough sierra
no quest markers? fuck
onyx knoll
haha
void mural
if you can only be in one node at a time then what is declaring war all about? what does it achieve
mighty nymph
@cinder shadow yeah, kinda good and since u need some types of resources to repair weapons and armor, some places will have higher price, that's great
tough sierra
make that 60 days leveling for me just trying to find the fuckin stuff
full badger
if you can only be in one node at a time then what is declaring war all about? what does it achieve
@void mural a successful siege will delevel a rival node, allowing your own node to level up
crystal beacon
@void mural You get a chunk of the resources being stored in that node as well
main mason
@earnest helm nodes are vassals to a castle, the castles are regions that contest each others territories, resources etc
void mural
ok, and is there like a wilderness which doesnt belong to any node?
onyx knoll
@void mural so, node growth is locked based on what other nodes are around them. Let's say you node is rank 4, and there is a rank 5 one next to it, then your rank 4 will never be able to grow to 5. So you might want to try destroying the rank 5 node to be able to make your own expend further
crystal beacon
@main mason Not all nodes are vassals to a castle, castles have 3 specific nods under their purview
@main mason Nodes are vassals to other nodes
void mural
@onyx knoll ooooooo
full badger
ok, and is there like a wilderness which doesnt belong to any node?
@void mural every part of the world is under the influence of a node
void mural
if you are in your own node are you safe?
onyx knoll
nope
crystal beacon
@void mural The only safe place is inside of your player housing
rose mist
So every node is a vassal of some other node ?
cinder shadow
So i understand pretty that much only Mayors will have flying mounts. is it possible to get a flying mount without becoming the Mayor of a town?
crystal beacon
@void mural (if it isn't being sieged)
lapis shard
@cinder shadow extremely rare drop from world boss
void mural
are there certain mobs or bosses specific to certain nodes then? like will you have to potentially run into loads of people who are in a node together
onyx knoll
no where is safe 😁
mighty nymph
i am still curious about how balance will work in nodes wars,it will be hard
full badger
So i understand pretty that much only Mayors will have flying mounts. is it possible to get a flying mount without becoming the Mayor of a town?
@cinder shadow mayors and royalty get flying mounts. If you get a mount drop that can fly but you aren't a mayor or royalty, it can only glide
latent parcel
Yes
onyx knoll
@cinder shadow only mayors of tier 5 towns get the flying mounts
full badger
are there certain mobs or bosses specific to certain nodes then? like will you have to potentially run into loads of people who are in a node together
@void mural levelling up particular nodes will unlock certain events or bosses to fight
latent parcel
You can get eggs from dragons
crystal beacon
@rose mist Once a node levels up from 0, it begins exerting a zone of Influence around it towards other nodes.
latent parcel
And raise them but those have a lifespan
void mural
@full badger so you can level up other peoples nodes? that suggests...
@full badger other groups*
crystal beacon
@void mural nodes don't really belong to anyone, except maybe the mayor
mighty nymph
so does nodes near water, will affect water monsters and raids ?, i mean he said will be there islands and stuff
main mason
@full badger then Im confused whats the thing with castles? I thought the castle system dominated over the node system
scenic agate
Is the pre-order skins just the ones shown? or will they be race specific? Anyone knows?
or even class ?
void mural
are nodes race specific?
rose mist
Did they said anything about farming ?
onyx knoll
@mighty nymph yes, costal nodes will affect sea regions
crystal beacon
@main mason The castle system is kind of separate from the node system. It's guild content.
latent parcel
Yes
onyx knoll
@rose mist there is farming, see here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Farming
full badger
are nodes race specific?
@void mural nodes take on the aesthetic of the race that contributes most to levelling it up
dark dagger
Do players drop monster certificates on death?
balmy juniper
will the cosmetics from the pre pruchased packs ever come back?
main mason
but who ever owns castles gets a cut of the taxes from the nodes in that region or so I read somewhere
full badger
will the cosmetics from the pre pruchased packs ever come back?
@balmy juniper Once a set of cosmetics goes away, it doesn't come back
onyx knoll
@dark dagger no they drop a percentage of the materials and processed goods they're carrying
crystal beacon
@main mason Each castle has 3 nodes of its own, those are the nodes that refers to
void mural
@full badger so can people of the same race not attack each other? and/or can you group up with people of different races
rose mist
@onyx knoll thank you senpai
full badger
@full badger so can people of the same race not attack each other? and/or can you group up with people of different races
@void mural you can group up with whoever you like
onyx knoll
@void mural there are no racial factions, you can attack anyone
crystal beacon
@void mural there are no race based factions
void mural
so you can befriend anyone and attack anyone?
main mason
yes
onyx knoll
correcto
real dock
If a ganker is in a party and he only kills a non combatant, does the whole party turn red, or just the assaulter?
mighty nymph
@onyx knoll are u sure, they don't drop the certificates, like a percentage just like materials and stuff ?
onyx knoll
@mighty nymph caravans do drop something like certificates that you can redeem at the caravan's starting zone for an amount of what the caravan was carrying when you destroyed it
crystal beacon
@main mason I wasn't totally correct, the castles exert a region like a metropolis, and they work in concert with each other, neither being high than the other hierarchy wise.
onyx knoll
but here was bothing mentionned for player themselves
@real dock that's currently unclear, it'll be tested in alpha but atm it's probably just the attacker
mighty nymph
@onyx knoll i think he said something about it in a interview with summit or asmongold, will try find it
onyx knoll
mhh, this is all the info we have on player death; https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_death
crystal beacon
@real dock Steven has voiced that as a healer he hated in AA when idiots in his group would go red and force him to go red by accidentally healing them, so I imagine you wouldn't auto-flag along with your party.
real dock
@onyx knoll Understood. It definitely needs to extend to the party, or else the ganker has bodyguards that only would be combatants, not corrupted.
void mural
are there going to be any specific pvp designated areas like the wilderness in runescape?
full badger
are there going to be any specific pvp designated areas like the wilderness in runescape?
@void mural not that we know of
crystal beacon
@void mural The entire game is a PvP area, effectively.
onyx knoll
@void mural there will be instanced BGs and Arenas
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon i think they meant no corruption
void mural
so if you go corrupted when you kill someone, then starting out, you will only be able to kill non corrupted people?
presuming nobody is yet corrupted
onyx knoll
@void mural You go corrupted if you attack a non-combatant, so early on there won't be any corrupted, but you can attack anyone at any time
crystal beacon
(misunderstood)
onyx knoll
I assume we'll see corrupted players pop up pretty early tho 😂
crystal beacon
There's non-combatant/combatant/corrupted. Anyone who is flagged Purple (Combatant) is open for combat without corrupting you as well.
real dock
@onyx knoll There was that reddit post basically suggesting the server starts out as a bloodbath.
crystal beacon
Your target has to consent to PvP if you don't want to be corrupted, yes
onyx knoll
@real dock haha, I can see that potentially happening
crystal beacon
@real dock A baptism in blood, rather appropriate I think
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
onyx knoll
@void mural If you attack someone, and the refuse to flag up, then you can back down if you don't want to turn corrupted. Or you can just flag up and look for other flagged players
dense fossil
How many people do you need to start a guild? Is there an cost for it?
onyx knoll
No info on guild creation yet that i'm aware of
void mural
@onyx knoll what if you like 1 hit someone who is way lower level? or will that not be a thing
lapis shard
@dense fossil 5 people minimum
onyx knoll
oh nvm, 5 minimum
dense fossil
Cool cool
onyx knoll
@dense fossil
main mason
@crystal beacon sweet! Im literally gona be in the pubs just hearing all the game of throne style stories of all the castles fighting each others regions its going to be epic
onyx knoll
@void mural if you one hit a lowbie that isn't flagged, you gain a TON of corruption
dense fossil
Alrighty thanks
void mural
@onyx knoll and is there any reason to go corrupted or is it literally just a punishment system?
onyx knoll
alright i'm off for a while, keep up the good work fellahs
@void mural you gain more mats from people you kill when they're not flagged, but it is meant as a punitive system
crystal beacon
@void mural If someone has a fat mule with lots of gatherables for the taking, it could absolutely be worth it. As well as fighting over grinding spots in dungeons.
lime island
Do we have any idea how end game progression will be? One think I hate about WoW is the endless gear grind and gear reset after every expansion. Is that what we should expect from AoC too? Just keep grinding the next gear tier list?
void mural
can combatants attack any combatants with no repercussions?
crystal beacon
@void mural Yep
@lime island We don't have hard answers on how expansions will scale yet but it's highly unlikely you'll be facing a gear treadmill in this game.
main mason
@lime island end game is the prosperity of your region, the continued exploration of content by rotations of nodes leveling and deleveling
void mural
just checking there will be a player driven economy right? and if so will there be a market or will it be just 1 on 1 trading
worn elm
boob slider?
versed badge
Apparently
real dock
Potentially bulge slider as well
crystal beacon
@void mural T3+ economic nodes will have auction houses local to their Zone of Influence. Other nodes will have marketplaces with rentable player stalls.
main mason
@void mural I highly suggest either the wiki or ashes101 theres a lot of youtube media you can watch with condensed info.
slow seal
@real dock three legged pirate confirmed?
main mason
@void mural a big benchmark will be getting the first economic node to metropolis that will activate the super power to world market acess
void mural
so is there any advantage of your node being a specific class? or can you interact just fine with other nodes
crystal beacon
@latent parcel For simply being there? No, but for using your services, I believe so.
latent parcel
Yes that’s what I meant
crystal beacon
@void mural The advantage is the different options each node has.
main mason
node class is fixed and it defines what kind of inlfuenced is exerted in the area. it will dictate quest lines, events etc
void mural
@main mason so players have no influence on what type a node is?
lime island
How does deleveling or XP loss work in the game? Is there the threat of Falling from level 50 back to level 1? Or is it just a background noise annoyance when u die?
void mural
so you have to chose based on what you want?
full badger
@main mason so players have no influence on what type a node is?
@void mural node types are all predetermined
crystal beacon
@main mason Outside of choosing which node to build up
void mural
oh that is brilliant
dense fossil
Is the subscription needed to play, or is it f2p but you need to Sub for more of the game?
fading latch
Sub only @dense fossil
dense fossil
Aight
crystal beacon
@lime island You gain exp debt when you die. It won't delevel you, but you may lose stats making you function effectively as a lower level until you pay off the debt.
void mural
will there be detrimental microtransactions?
full badger
will there be detrimental microtransactions?
@void mural cosmetics only
crystal beacon
@void mural The game is sold on a big fat no p2w or p2convenience promise
lime island
You need a subscription, but there is no upfront box payment like other games with subscriptions
main mason
No P2W, its a core tennant of Intrepid
crystal beacon
I haven’t heard much talk about this but how much time is a node generally expected to last with a average player count inhabiting the node and can you have a node built up for like 3 months or a long time
cinder shadow
would it be possible to trade in-game currency earned while playing, to increase the duration of your active subscription?
void mural
will there be a f2p (restricted option) or is it p2p to gain access
boreal abyss
until someone wants it gone, declares war on that Node and wins a siege
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon Totally depends on the community climate and if people decide to siege
boreal abyss
@void mural no, p2p only
fading latch
@cinder shadow no
full badger
I haven’t heard much talk about this but how much time is a node generally expected to last with a average player count inhabiting the node and can you have a node built up for like 3 months or a long time
@crystal beacon nodes will need constant maintenance or they will delevel. We don't know the details for that yet
crystal beacon
Alright if that’s thats the case it’s time for 100 year empire 
Latest news is they may be scrapping deleveling for how it messes with the vassal system and instead allowing atrophy to accrue until the node just goes poof.. it's a system that's still being iterated on
latent parcel
In the game can I rob someone’s house? Not a raid, but just walk in and take the loot
crystal beacon
What is the vassal system?
@latent parcel Negative
what is the world of ashes called again?
cinder shadow
man can you imagine coming home to find your garden hose has been robbed?
full badger
what is the world of ashes called again?
@crystal beacon Verra
crystal beacon
thanks wandering mist
@crystal beacon Nodes exert a Zone of Influence around them, and any other nodes that fall within that zone of influence cannot reach the same level as their parent node.
main mason
@latent parcel states will only be raideable if your parent Node is sieged succesfuly
crystal beacon
Ojhhh okay thanks
latent parcel
K
real dock
Is a node's Zone of Influence indicated on a map in game, or is it an invisible ZoI
boreal abyss
invisible as far as we know
main mason
Invisible for now. The idea is to give you as little information as possible, there will be no manual and no hand holding you need to learn stuff on the go or by asking.
I even like the change on the usual question/exclamantion mark for questing, the name color and shimmer of NPCs will elt you know
kind cloud
how is npc lvl's affected by a node's lvl?
crystal beacon
I am curious how that will work with ZoIs not being a uniform shape, might run into some instances where you expect to be able to level a node and can't... I wonder if at least lists what the parent node is by name in vassal nodes in some way? (sorry for the tangent, kind of a rhetorical question.)
real dock
@main mason The lack of handholding is fine, but this was about clarity which is different. For instance, a village is in middle of two large towns, is there a way to tell which large town has vassalized the village?
dark dagger
How do you know where to place freeholds if you can't see ZOI?
main mason
Thats a good question question takaoni, since the corrupted will also be targeted by NPC's i wonder how will there levels differ adn the node evolves
crystal beacon
@dark dagger I would imagine trial and error. It's all a system that is still being worked on and subject to change.
safe canopy
Does anyone have a link to the forum thread about multiboxing?
main mason
there are several, the official is not out yet I think
safe canopy
@main mason ah okay
kind cloud
full badger
@safe canopy The dev discussion on multiboxing will be announced on all the social media when they post it
main mason
@real dock ohh ok, I personally dont know but makes sense that you will be able to know right away by talking to an NPC maybe or maybe the region will be named after the town in control, unsure
frail garnet
@xerath steven expressed his opinon on it in the stream btw
keen cliff
Do you think tank as a secondary class will be viable for small group stuff? I want to be a ranger primary, hoping bard/cleric/tank are good secondary classes.
full badger
Do you think tank as a secondary class will be viable for small group stuff? I want to be a ranger primary, hoping bard/cleric/tank are good secondary classes.
@keen cliff We don't know yet.
crystal beacon
@keen cliff We really don't know yet.
keen path
Optimal is just to have 1 of every mainclass in a group
kind cloud
will there be high lvl npc's (endgame or close to endgame, lvl vise) at the start of a server opening?
latent parcel
Will race affect if I am good at magic or not, if so what is the best race for a mage
keen path
who knows, its the deeper u go in to a dungeon the higher lvl the mobs. But there might be no dungeons yet if all nodes are lvl 0.
frozen tartan
Will race affect if I am good at magic or not, if so what is the best race for a mage
@latent parcel we don't have the seed stats for each races yet
safe canopy
@frail garnet I know, and afterwards he made a post in the news section of discord saying he'd be having a thread made about the topic and that next week there would be a discussion about it
crystal beacon
@latent parcel Races have stats and augmentations specific to their race, we don't know to what degree yet.
latent parcel
K
main mason
I'm glad this channel is full of people answering questions, its good to keep the newer people curious right of the bat as they come in.
plucky pawn
Yup @safe canopy @frail garnet @main mason we'll be hosting that official Dev Discussion on multiboxing this week, and will share the news in #news like we do every time there's a new topic for ya to comment on 
late vale
Does guild get "reputations" like for example if a guild takes part on caravan assaults regularly would that tag the guild as a Rogue guild?
forest pike
@plucky pawn can you tease us with what's coming in the next live stream? 😍
unreal zealot
hopfully new cosmetics anouncment
past ridge
dude, I don't know a single person who likes or is at least neutral towards multiboxing in games
late vale
When is the next live stream?
past ridge
it's just a cheap way to get advantage
late vale
noice
safe canopy
@plucky pawn thank you :) I'm still kinda new to the discord, so I'm still figuring stuff out around here XP
late vale
Xerath
plucky pawn
@past ridge Heya - this is great discussion to have in our thread once it's hosted, as we're keeping this channel to questions!
late vale
I assume u are going archmage ?
safe canopy
@late vale I can message you on discord messages. I dont want to interrupt the questions here
late vale
same
placid tundra
Gonna put my naval combat question over here too, how will ship crafting, repairing(dock or onboard carpenter) and combat work(i.e. raiding/cannons)
past ridge
@plucky pawn it's nice of you to put these polemic topics up for discussion with the players
turbid hinge
how will loot distribution work?
hardy pewter
Can I pretty please ask for a future dev discussion on accessibility issues @plucky pawn ? Since there will be no add-ons, some accessibility things will need to be baked into the UI and options. As we know, MMO players tend to be older, so talking about the variety of challenges people face playing games can make for a much better experience for everyone -- but it's really hard to fix later.
plucky pawn
@hardy pewter While we've got our official topics all scheduled out from our design team for the rest of this year, feel free to spin up a thread on the forums to get the discussion going!
hardy pewter
roger that
buoyant carbon
Is 2021 beta and alpha access?
frail garnet
@turbid hinge go to the ama and go to 48:43 that should answer the question
crystal beacon
@late vale To answer your earlier question about reputations, there isn't currently any sort of in-game-flagging for "this guild ganks a lot," but with no server transfers reputations spread fast and stick by word of mouth (and forum)
@turbid hinge Inside of groups, mobs will drop items, and group leaders will set the loot rules, currently between free-for-all, round robin, and need-before-green rolls.
@placid tundra We don't really have many specifics on the ship content yet.
placid tundra
sad
frail garnet
Wait till a2 you should have more info by then
hardy pewter
it's shocking the details we do have about many things at this point; patience is required for more
frail garnet
Yeah, feelsbad since I am really impatient
dense shore
If you're impatient, this is not a game to look out for 😅
frail garnet
Yeah but its fine, btw please try to keep to questions
ruby swift
Morning all
dense shore
I'm aware, yeah, just wanted to throw that in. Regarding Node Sieges, can you siege them early ok, like sieging a level 2 node?
frail garnet
Yeah
slow sky
you can siege level 3+ nodes
frail garnet
^
hardy roost
I'm curious, what would be the difference between a Beastmaster and a Falconer? Active or passive ability wise.
slow sky
unknown, not much info in general on summoners
frail garnet
Well we dont know much
hardy roost
Understandable
ruby swift
It would be the augments. And as Risen said, we have almost no information on those yet.
onyx knoll
Falconer and beastmaster will be very different, the main archetype determine which skills you will have, while the 2nd will add augments (aka modifications) to existing skills. So, Beastmaster being a primary summoner, you will probably have a permanent animal summon, where as falconer, being a ranger primary might just have a falcon that shows up when you use certain skills
dense shore
Is it possible to move to a different node when you're a citizen of another one? Or is that a difficult process, or maybe still unclear?
onyx knoll
We don't have details on what the augments will de specifcaly yet tho
hardy roost
I would be so into permanent summons
onyx knoll
@dense shore It is possible, but there is a 2 week cooldown
slow sky
summoner summons are permanent until they die or you log off
late vale
Bestmaster sound likes permanent summon
hardy roost
I am pretty sure steven said something about that in the AMA the other day
onyx knoll
@slow sky uh, that's unclear. Steven said that they wouldN't just fade away on their own, but he didn't specify about the log out thing
brisk scarab
Anyone know if you get keys for friends if you buy any of the packs?
hardy roost
May be a possibility for multiple summons I hope.
muted mortar
hi guys. Do you think there will be a voice chat which works like the teamspeak addon of gta roleplay?
ruby swift
@dense shore You can change citizenship, there is a cooldown. Remember citizenship is based off of housing. So you would have to gain housing in the node you were swapping to, drop old citizenship, wait for cooldown, then become citizen in new node.
slow sky
@onyx knoll he did in the latest AMA
onyx knoll
@brisk scarab not anymore, some packs from the kickstarter gave extra keys but that's long gone
@slow sky did he mention logging off specifically? i must have missed it, good to know!
ruby swift
@brisk scarab Extra keys were benefits in some Kickstarter packages, they have not been offered so far since
versed hollow
@onyx knoll All extra keys from Kickstarter were for Beta access as well
hasty osprey
Is there fall damage in game?
onyx knoll
@muted mortar There will be in game voice chat, and some area will have proximity voice chat
ruby swift
Yes, not currently, but planned. Was turned off last few tests.
hardy roost
@onyx knoll His did talk a little bit about logging off or disconnecting in the specific instance of traveling with a caravan
glacial burrow
I understand tagging rules are not yet finalized but will XP/Quest completion will depend on those rules or anyone that tags the mobs will at least benefit from XP/Quest gain even if theres no loot?
onyx knoll
@hardy roost yeah but that wasn't related to the summons, just the caravans
hardy roost
Oh yeah
ruby swift
They have also talked about player persistence in the world when logging also. There will be no unplugging your internet to avoid bad situations. Would most likely log back into a bad result.
hardy roost
Being as they are connected to a player one could assume they would disappear
balmy juniper
can i use embers from the package to buy skins in the following rotations?
ruby swift
Nope, embers are post launch
onyx knoll
I assume they would disappear with the player but the question is, will they re-appear when you log back on like a WoW's pet for hunter, or will you need to resummon them. Honestly I don't know
ruby swift
He said permanent until you log off. Think of WoWs warlock as an example.
sweet bear
Is Intrepid ready to handle the massive influx of people coming to this game? Blizzard thought they could handle it on their expansion launches. Atlas too.
slow sky
thats what testing the servers as much as they can during alpha/beta will prepare them for
but like most game launches i expect it to be more than they ever expected and have some issues on immediate launch
ruby swift
Time will tell. That is more fortune teller than information we can quote for you. They are not going to tell you Sorry, we give up!
hardy roost
Perhaps if they were different tiers of summons, like higher tiers stay in the world or something like that. Or if they stay with the player until they die then if the player dies or leaves the server by any means it will continue to fight along side fellow family/guild members
wheat mantle
will we have chances to build our own homes? and if so will crafting decor for the said home be possible. also can we have hirelings to micro-manage our home while we are gone? you said we could open up inns does this also alow fo players logging out in the inn a special buff ?
iron quiver
Does anyone know when a City is destroyed, will you loose your property ownership when the city is rebuilt? IE: do i have to repurchase?
crystal beacon
As in your instanced housing? Or your freehold thing
ruby swift
@oblique scarab Yes, all is lost, but you can repurchase and have a template to lay down rather than having to place everything again.
slow sky
@wheat mantle 1) you can, this is the free hold system. 2) definitely you will be able to craft decor 3) im not sure 4) not sure about logging out but inns can sell food which can buff individuals who eat
iron quiver
So what happens if you're in a big city and someone "purchases" your property before you can get back to it
wanton cosmos
for freehold buildings you get sent a blueprint to your mail
ruby swift
@iron quiver Housing is first come first serve currently, though they have mentioned the possibility of a timed bidding system might be implemented.
oblique scarab
Don't @ me bro! lol
ruby swift
It is a brand new city. It is no longer "yours"
iron quiver
Not sure how i feel about loosing ownership. I'd be fine with it being destroyed though... just.. not feeling it if we really loose the ownership.
ruby swift
Risk v Reward. Must ensure to fight harder when under siege if you lost the last time.
slow sky
a destroyed node gets reset to level 0, there's nothing there to own anymore.
grave storm
So if u buy the Voyager pack do u get to keep the character u build or do u lose it?
iron quiver
Oh, i'm aware. lol. Kinda changes what my priority might be. Need to think about it.
slow sky
@grave storm characters during alpha/beta get wiped
ruby swift
@grave storm All progress is wiped before launch
slow sky
well maybe not in alpha 2, because the alpha 2 will turn into the public test server after launch so that may be its own separate character you can keep
hollow widget
hello does anyone know if theres an easily readable schedule somewhere? something that lays out Alpha 1 is [DATE] to [DATE], Alpha 2 is [DATE] to [DATE] ...
boreal abyss
@hollow widget no schedule
ruby swift
@hollow widget They only give dates they know they can hit.
oblique scarab
Any guess how long Alpha 1 will be?>
onyx knoll
@iron quiver if you have a building in a city, and that city gets destroyed, the node will revert back to a lvl 0 node so you wouldn't be able to repurchase the same plot anyway since you can only have houses in lvl 3 nodes and up. The idea if a node is destroyed is that you go find a new town to settle in
slow sky
@oblique scarab as long as they need to collect data
versed hollow
@hollow widget https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
hollow widget
@versed hollow you are the man
void mural
what does an individual have to lose if their node gets seiged?
onyx knoll
@iron quiver If your city actually survives the siege but you house is still destroyed during the attack, there might be a grace period during which only you can rebuild (the freeholds will have that), but that is not confirmed
@void mural Well, if you are a citizen of a node you have a house in there, and there is storage in your house. If you node gets destroyed, people will get to loot a portion of your stuff. Plus, you'll lose access to the developed stuff that's been built in your city like the crafting areas and/or auction houses, that sort of thing, until you can find a new node
hardy pewter
they said you will get all your furniture and a blueprint, though, so you can recreate your house elsewhere
onyx knoll
correct
slow sky
@void mural all raw/processed resources and literally the services you could access as a citizen of the node since it gets reset back to level 0 of nothing. also all content that evolved with that node including dungeons/raids also go poof with the node's destruction
onyx knoll
all you lose is a portion of your materials and processed goods, you won't lose any of your furniture nor any of your stored gear
versed hollow
@hardy pewter yes, you will get a blueprint of your house so you can quickly set it up again exactly how it was before
ruby swift
Yes, but you still got to find a new place to live, gain citizenship, then place and rebuild relationships if people didn't mass exodus with you. And on and on. Many reasons to not just say fuck it, blow up mah house.
onyx knoll
yep
slow sky
well you might not be able to
that node upon reset to level 0 may get absorbed as a vassal node if there were bigger towns around it
hardy pewter
true
ruby swift
Since you were removed to unlock nearby nodes that would have been blocked. The odds of them levelling and blocking you out first are higher.
stone walrus
unless you go on rampage and attack everything around to reset it back to stone age
slow sky
it would take a lot of siege scrolls and planning to do something like that
sweet void
I doubt there will be sieges at the first 3 months of when the server goes live
ruby swift
Node sieges are not attack as you like. There is a lot of pre-game stuff that goes on.
sweet void
Since everyone will want to stock up before expandinh
onyx knoll
@sweet void Don't underestimate no lifers. I give it a month 😛
slow sky
they've mentioned the effort to siege should equal the effort to build so it could take as early as the first week to pull off a siege since it will take a few days to reach town stage node
sweet void
Isnt sieges limited to a military node? Lvl 3 i think?
slow sky
no
onyx knoll
nay
slow sky
you can siege any node of town stage or higher (level 3+)
sweet void
I mean the ability to siege a node?
slow sky
but you must do a lot of work to obtain a siege scroll to initiate said siege
hardy roost
I agree with @onyx knoll on about a month, because if there are no sieges then some nodes will never grow to max level
onyx knoll
plus, it'll be a new thing to try, people will be eager to give it a shot
bronze prawn
Hello! I know nothing's set in stone with classes, but does anyone know if rogues will be the only class with access to stealth? Or if those who pick rogue as their secondary archetype can have access to a gimped version of stealth themselves?
onyx knoll
So far Rogue is the only one that can use the stealth function, tho we are guessing that using rogue as a 2nd archetype will give you the ability to use short bursts of stealth in order to drop tab target
slow sky
yes
oblique shell
or steal from vendors :V
onyx knoll
Or I should say, it will give you the ability to enhance some of your skills with short bursts of stealth
slow sky
but not other players
sweet void
Im curious of the different utility skill per class as steven shared on the ama
crystal beacon
@slow sky Maybe I missed something but I've not seen any confirmation on a pickpocket type ability
The only thing the Wiki lists about it is that there won't be anything of that sort directed at players, nothing about NPCs
slow sky
@crystal beacon it has been offhandedly mentioned but nothing fleshed out in detail, it will only work on npcs
hardy roost
In the AMA he mentioned rouges will have special doors and pathways in activities only they can find. I wonder if there will be different instances with other classes?
hoary flare
For the augment secondary things. There are things like Necromancers get Skellies, the charge teleport for fighters having a mage secondary, but what is the large benefit of going into the same primary class? Like Fighter/Fighter or Summoner/Summoner
onyx knoll
@hardy roost Yes! Every primary archetype has a skill that interact with the environment and allows you do discover secret stuff 😄
hardy roost
I wonder what the summoners will have
onyx knoll
That one we don't know yet, unfortunately ^^'
crystal beacon
@hoary flare As far as we know, you'll still get augments based on your secondary archetype, they'll just be similar to the skills you already have
sweet void
Im think for summoner increase in summon allowed or ro be able to increase a higher tier of summon maybe?
slow sky
@hoary flare secondary classes and their augments besides the rush skill+teleport augment example is all a big mystery until hopefully Alpha 2 when we can test out secondary classes
crystal beacon
/make them more effective
sweet void
Fighters basically more dmg?
Kinda funny steven didnt like the term flavor for explaining the 64 different classes
hardy roost
I feel like a summoner/summoner would have higher tier summons and a beastmaster would have extra summon slots
dark dagger
Curious how the summoning secondary would work.
slow sky
Please remember to keep this channel to Questions and Answers folks. If a question becomes a discussion please take it to the appropriate channels! #general-discussion #aoc-discussion
Thank you
onyx knoll
@dark dagger we unfortunately probably won't know until alpha 2 when they release the secondaries
sweet void
Whats alpha1 content btw
slow sky
afaik 20% gameworld, all 8 primary classes, level 20 cap? not sure on my last point
ruby swift
level 10 I believe on A1
onyx knoll
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule @sweet void scroll down a bit it's all there
lvl 20 for alpha 1
hardy roost
lvl 25 is supposed to be the class augment correct?
onyx knoll
yep
slow sky
correct
sweet void
So they have been testing alpha1 but qa testing. Would that include those phoenix initiative folks?
hardy roost
If I remember seeing it correctly, there are some sort of random beta drawings going to take place someday right?
dark dagger
Can personal naval vessels carry goods?
slow sky
yes PI are included with the Pre-Alpha 1 QA testing
crystal beacon
Content creators will get beta keys to give out at some point.
winter copper
makes me sad
onyx knoll
@dark dagger there will be naval caravans that can go over rivers and in the ocean
ruby swift
@hardy roost That plan was scrapped last info I heard. The Beta "zero".
winter copper
and why does my name change on this discord....
ruby swift
Check the naming rules
hardy roost
How unfortunate
ruby swift
Those that won beta keys in 2017 (total of 5 I believe were given out) were folded into the A0 testing.
hexed sluice
It seems like there is a big emphasis on artisan classes to drive the economy of the game. If that's true, are there any plans of implementing a feature to even things out if, for example, 70% of the player base wants to be a gatherer (leaving the remaining 30% to be divided amoung to classes)?
slow sky
all artisan classes are dependent on one another in some fashion, for instance gatherers will need better tools provided by crafters to gather higher tiered materials
ruby swift
<speculation>Doubt they would interfere with people ruining their own economy if their system works if implemented correctly
slow sky
and to some point you can do all 3 to an extent but can only master 1 of the 3 trees
onyx knoll
@hexed sluice You can only master 1 type of profession, so there will be a market for people to level the other types
merry meteor
there probably will be more gatherers anyways since everything deppends on raw materials but i dont think it will be 70%
onyx knoll
if everyone starts off as gatherers, but then people realise that there aren't enough processors then some gatherers will switch to it to make more money
ruby swift
And when people realize they need better armor to get to those better gathering locations and survive, the crafters will come online.
slow sky
i expect there to be plenty of crafters anyway because Animal Husbandry falls under their domain iirc
dusk patio
Does anyone know if there will be in-game / proximity voice chat and/or world text chat?
slow sky
yes
hexed sluice
But once someone switches to make more money, and things even out, now they make the same money as they would have to begin with and therefore now lose out on becoming the artisan class they would rather be. So I guess is there anything to keep a player satisfied after sacrificing for the good of the community?
slow sky
then i expect there to be tons of processors
spark lark
That makes sense because it seems like something you’d be doing on your Freehold
ruby swift
@hexed sluice So far nothing like that has been mentioned in my memory. Though I am old and sometimes forgetful.
onyx knoll
@hexed sluice I mean, if there is one type of artisan job you really like, just do that one, I'm sure there will be people that will focus on others you don't have to sacrifice for the comunity
the people that will switch to make more money are those that care more about profit then the actual profession
urban pumice
Will it be possible to play and perform music outside of combat (as a bard or otherwise), and if so, will it be possible to create music like in mmos such as LotRO and Maplestory 2?
hexed sluice
Yeah that's true
onyx knoll
@urban pumice nothing about that yet, only music mention was tavern owners being able to pick the music in their taverns but we don't even know if that'll just be from a list of prechosen songs or if you'll be able to make your own
urban pumice
Alright thanks!
slow sky
catch me owning a tavern in town on the coast playing Bink's Sake on repeat for the pirates if we can make our own 
ruby swift
All right. I am off to game. Have fun with your info quests.
onyx knoll
You can use freeholds as taverns, so yes you can make your own tavern ^^ expensive tho 😛
slow sky
make our own as in music
sweet void
Are freehold to be shown on alpha1?
ivory latch
when there will be the raffle for beta ?
onyx knoll
they said they would show a "portion" of the player housing, w-e that means
fierce patio
Anyone know how to add kickstarter titles/badges to your forum account?
onyx knoll
@ivory latch when we get closer to the beta i imagine, so prob not for a year
!kickstarter
mh, don't remember the command sorry
ty ty
wanton cosmos
wish i backed the starter man
ivory latch
wish they would start the raffle in dec 😄 a very good Christmas present
wanton cosmos
would have been worth even for a low level pack
sweet void
Cause i want to knwo if freehold size be the same for everyone and if not how to expand
crystal beacon
@ivory latch Alpha 1 likely won’t start until close to Dec so that would be pretty early to start beta invites
wanton cosmos
100% has to be the same size initially
@sweet void
Though i imagine youll be able to advance and expand it slightly over time
to include creation based structures
empty fjord
does anyone know what the main purpose of A0 was?
sweet void
And is it limited to open space or can place on a hill or slotted into a cave
onyx knoll
@sweet void https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds
wanton cosmos
A0 was for peopel to give their thoughts on game design and how to move forward
was very limited though
like a few hundred at most
crystal beacon
@empty fjord testing base game systems for feedback? Not sure if you want something more specific
onyx knoll
wanton cosmos
game was very different at that point
ivory latch
would be nice if you could make a dungeon under your freehold 😄
wanton cosmos
Anyone have a freehold skin they bought?
empty fjord
nah was just curious
slow sky
from the kickstarter probably
wanton cosmos
some of them are towers, was wondering how that would work since it would automatically be bigger than your average freehold
crystal beacon
I almost bought this one but decided I didn’t want to RP Shrek.
slow sky
i haven't bought any additional cosmetics except the Fire/Ice Elemental racial skins
wanton cosmos
damnnn dude
onyx knoll
@slow sky the 375$ pre-order packs also include a freehold skin
wanton cosmos
those looked sick
sweet void
Well ud need a swamp to rp shrek
wanton cosmos
both those race skins were amazing
slow sky
@onyx knoll besides those race skins i havent bought any, so if theres any in the KS thats all i get
onyx knoll
ahh
wanton cosmos
Ship skins are gonna be insane to run into on the sea
can you imagine?
your coming up on a huge wave, and then you see behind it and theres a HUGE UNDEAD ship just coming up on you
id shit myself
ivory latch
i would be 🤩 LOOOOOOTTTTTT
slow sky
Please remember to keep this channel to Questions and Answers folks. If a question becomes a discussion please take it to the appropriate channels! #general-discussion #aoc-discussion
Thank you
tidal tangle
Is there a limited number or pre-order packs for alpha phase 2? Or would I be able to buy into the alpha?
slow sky
alpha 2 is still available in pre-order packs, alpha 1 is not
sweet void
Id imagine the system rendering different skins for dofferent boats. The server would need to be in antartica
main grotto
Will we be able to buy the beta pack after the beta is released?
Not really wanting to invest until after its out
slow sky
unknown, i'm sure they'll make an announcement before they pull the plug on any alpha/beta access
sharp wing
Steven has stated they will give a headsup before they pull things from the store
main grotto
So TBD at worst, thanks
wanton cosmos
you wont be able to i imagine @main grotto.
Since alpha 1 keys are no longer being sold
even though it hasnt come out yet
they stopped being sold around a year ago
main grotto
I assume the beta would be different seeing its probably going to be upwards of 1-2 years long
wanton cosmos
so youll probably have to buy the key a year before the beta comes out
do betas last that long?
if so, i can see that
onyx knoll
that doesn't really mean anything, beta will be more about stress test, so they might let a lot more ppl in, but who knows
wanton cosmos
though, I can also see it only being a few months long
main grotto
The beta is slated tentatively for late 2020 / early 2021 from what i read
slow sky
I mean as a PI level backer i'll have like 6 keys to hand out for beta
versed hollow
sweet void
Everything was pushed back due to the backend rework they did for unreal engine 4
wanton cosmos
heard they had to do around a year of extra work to get everything working
onyx knoll
that and covid didn,t help either
wanton cosmos
Though, its a shame
main grotto
Oof i probably misread the release schedule
wanton cosmos
With unreal engine 5 coming out
slow sky
and that backend fix would only have gotten worse if they waited until alpha to discover it, so its good it was found out in Apoc early despite the flack they got for it
onyx knoll
@main grotto if you thought beta was soon, you certainly did 😛
main grotto
Lol yeah i got mixed up the apocalypse beta date too
Since that came up and i thought it was for the mmo
versed hollow
oh god i hope not
sweet void
When i say the apocalypse gameplay, i brain did not function for a second or two
plucky pawn
Alright folks - let's remember to bring discussion on down to our discussion channels, and keep this line open for questions! 
crystal beacon
anyone got a pic of the class combinations and race descriptions? or where can i read more?
pearl crypt
i know a lot of people have asked about when the date for the alpha 2 test is and that there is no current answer; is there an estimated time for how long the alpha 2 test will last or how much time is there in between the alpha 2 and beta 1 test phases?
onyx knoll
slow sky
opal hemlock
I hears about the corruption, that get applies upon killing a non combatant, does that mean, if i witness player A attack player B and decide to help the fellow farmer that has been passive with me I will gain corruption if the aggressive player B never attacks me back?
sweet void
Oh yeah question about the serve, its not region lock right? I like playing on the na cst/est time since i work on the morning and farm at nightime
versed hollow
@pearl crypt no known info on that currently
crystal beacon
ty so much ❤️
onyx knoll
@opal hemlock no because they would have needed to be flagged to attack in the first place
sharp wing
@crystal beacon to give you another link. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Archetypes
winter parrot
Question on Node Citizenship... Is it looking to be one node citizenship per server meaning any/all alts must be on different servers?
pearl crypt
theo any ideas if we will still be able to buy the alpha two test phase package when the alpha two is announced?
versed hollow
@sweet void yes you can do that, however things like node seiges and guild wars will happen during limited times, so you may find out that you miss a lot of exciting content
crystal beacon
great.. ty.. just what im looking for :D
onyx knoll
@winter parrot meaning all your alts on the same servers will be citizen of the same node, you could make alts on different servers if you want tho
slow sky
@pearl crypt they will most certainly make some sort of announcement before pulling Alpha 2 purchases from the store
versed hollow
@pearl crypt likely, but they will announce before they take away alpha 2 access from packagges
winter parrot
Thanks for the replies
hallow venture
Is there any information on the 4 schools available within each of the secondary classes for each main class?
sweet void
Well i might need to buy a laptop to olay aoc while working
onyx knoll
@hallow venture what? not sure what you're talking about
hallow venture
Steven mentioned it in the asmongold interview
sweet void
For transpo, would there be a node tranpo depending on the node level?
slow sky
@hallow venture we dont really have any idea of the 4 types of augments secondaries will give
hallow venture
That tank/tank for example can be tank/tank/1 thru tank/tank/4
sweet void
Or is just the mounts and the teleport from the science metropolis?
onyx knoll
someone made a list of what they THOUGHT they would be, but it's nothign official
hallow venture
Kk ty @hollow quest
onyx knoll
@sweet void there might be some flight paths, but not a lot. It'll mostle be mounts
hallow venture
Ooh @onyx knoll do you have a link?
onyx knoll
to that image? no sorry I didn't save it, it was someone in the #aoc-discussion channel a few days ago 😦
You can try asking around in there, maybe someone else did grab it
opal hemlock
steven mentioned abilties of the flying mounts, combat abilities, do we know if land mounts will have abilities or stats based on animal type and/ or skill of the breeder
crystal beacon
How many people are there on the aoc team, anyway?
hallow venture
~65
versed hollow
@opal hemlock very little is known about mounts and mount skills. It's possible that attack abilities are affected by the breeders skill in animal husbandry as their stats are affected by that as well
slow sky
and growing
minor goblet
So a big thing I'd like to know. I've watched the interviews with Asmon, as well as the AMA video. Any time we've went over class combos it's a very easy idea when you pick a different sub class.
What is it like or how do you see yourself potentially augmenting a class with the exact same sub class?
slow sky
unknown, we have very little info about secondary augments
onyx knoll
A mage/mage would be the most powerful mage but would have very little in term of versatility
slow sky
more will be unveiled when secondaries hopefully reach testing in Alpha 2
onyx knoll
but yeah, basically we don't really know, if you wana have fun trying to guess what it'll be like you can head over to #aoc-discussion
versed hollow
@minor goblet augments secondary classes provide aren't known yet, however we are likely to see things potentially like Tank + Tank augments for greater aggro, or defence buffs. when we find out more things will obviously be subject to change with testing
wintry river
How big is a node city of 3... I heard someone reference that and I have no idea
slow sky
town
onyx knoll
village*
wintry river
How many people would that be... or
sleek shard
Having trouble finding a refund option for the pack i recently bought how do i get one? ive tried looking on the phone and i just bought it recently and my finances went to crap
onyx knoll
minor goblet
Also in terms of pvp balance. If it's player choice to have majority Action or majority tab target. What is the incentive for players to use action combat? Other than it being fun/skillful.
slow sky
more powerful for being more skillful
versed hollow
@wintry river more info on nodes can be found at https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes
onyx knoll
@wintry river we don't have exact numbers yet but you can read up here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes
lol, Theo too fast for me
stable plover
@sleek shard You need to fill out a customer support ticket
versed hollow
@minor goblet in terms of action vs tab-target, these things will be based on preference, and what works best with what skills when the combat systems are more finalised. For now we can't really make a judgement on it, as things could, and probably will, change later down the line
versed hollow
@crimson wadi https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
onyx knoll
@crimson wadi you can't pledge on kickstarter anymore, only the shop's pre-order packages that Theo linked
crimson wadi
thankss!
long tundra
This may of been answered many times already. So for classes I see there is a primary and secondary which determines the class depending on the combination. So if I pick fighter and mage, I’m a spellsword. Are you able to change your secondary at any time? Assuming your primary is picked when you create a character so I assume that will never change.
slow sky
primary- never changes
secondary-can be changed with a questline of effort
versed hollow
@long tundra you will be able to change your secondary class after doing some quests, it can be done freely but with some effort
crystal beacon
how do i install apocalypse ?
onyx knoll
So you can't switch at ANY time, but you can switch
long tundra
Ok awesome. Thank you
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon it's not available atm
versed hollow
@crystal beacon Apocolypse was a combat testing phase and isn't available anymore
crystal beacon
ok sorry i thought it was still a thing
plucky yacht
can you steal from NPCs in this game like in ESO?
slow sky
possibly, it's confirmed you cannot steal from other players which implies there will be a thieving system
versed hollow
@plucky yacht There will not be a theft (stealing/pickpocketing) mechanic in Ashes of Creation in regards to living players.
unknown if they will put one in for NPC's
onyx knoll
@versed hollow I mean....... TECHNICALLY you can steal gear from highly corrupted players 🤔
minor goblet
Unless I've misunderstood. It was mentioned that Auto Attack won't be a toggle etc but be its own "ability". That maintains relevance via assisting in proc based effects to enhance/reward your other abilities. Could you elaborate on the auto attack feature ex, does it have a CD/Seperate or unified GCD with other skills.
TLDR my main concern is will I have to break my fingers to max dmg vis spamming auto attack while using my other skills.
crystal beacon
Has it been clarified what happens to a guild if two members nodes go to war?
Or is that still an unknown
versed hollow
@minor goblet A weapon use combo system is utilized instead of a traditional auto-attack ability in Ashes of Creation. No traditional auto-attack system is present in Alpha-1.
Players can spec into weapon abilities on their combat skill tree, based on their preferred weapon types
crystal flax
Your node allegiance is higher than your guild, so you could fight each other
onyx knoll
mighty ermine
Can I have kids in Ashes?
versed hollow
no
wintry river
I’ll be your kid
crystal beacon
I'll also be your kid
short coral
crystal beacon
Your node allegiance is higher than your guild, so you could fight each other
Yeah, I know that. I just mean would you get kicked from your guild or what if you're in the middle of a guild war or something.
mighty ermine
Alright lol add me when the game comes out
versed hollow
Please keep this on topic guys
mighty ermine
Sorry
simple pecan
Hey, has there been any word on in-game voice chat? Voice for zone chat? Radius? Automatic or opt-in?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon that would be up to your guild
short coral
Hopefully none lol
onyx knoll
@simple pecan there will be in game VC, as well as proximity VC in some area
versed hollow
@crystal beacon you won't get kicked from your guild unless they kick your themselves, I'm not sure how this is handled, but it could just make you able to attack your guild mates if they support the rival node
simple pecan
Proximity voice chat could definitely be exciting if those nearby hear you by default (and can mute).
short coral
@simple pecan Yea until you get killed by 10 kids screaming at the same time
wintry river
Well now I’m confused cause I thought guilds took over nodes and it was that guild’s node
@short coral but that would be epic
onyx knoll
@wintry river guilds take over castles, which are special nodes, actual nodes are controlled by individuals
short coral
And lead to thousands of bans lol
scarlet lantern
About Bladecaller( summoner/ Fighter), Do they summon weapon or how does the class work?
short coral
dies and ears start bleeding instantly
wintry river
Ohh but how would you come to control a node @onyx knoll
simple pecan
Screamy kids will be muted and may rectify their behaviour when they notice everybody mutes them. Being able to quickly communicate with nearby people is very useful.
onyx knoll
@wintry river depends which type of node it is, more info here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mayors
versed hollow
@wintry river to add to @onyx knoll , nodes can have patron guilds, if your guild is a patron guild then you are with that node
short coral
@simple pecan I agree, just pass game experiences give me PTSD lol
versed hollow
@wintry river by doing activities and and quests in the nodes zone of influence, you will be able to get player housing when the node reaches a certain level, through the housing, you will be able to become a citizen of a node, and citizens can become the mayor of a node
muted loom
I just bought the Voyager Pre-Order Pack How do I gain access to play the game? or did i waste my money? I really want to play it
stable plover
@scarlet lantern I would expect that to be a weapon summoner that calls animated weapons -> No official confirmation that's what it is, but it should Summon something that sticks around - Maybe it's some sort of blade wielding monsters
crystal beacon
@muted loom YOu will have access when Alpha 2 comes around, we don't know yet when that will be.
void mural
2021 release date right?
onyx knoll
@muted loom you can't play right now, that gives you access to alpha 2 and alpha 1 hasn't even started
versed hollow
@muted loom Alpha 1 isn't out yet, you will have to wait till alpha 2 to start to play
simple pecan
I do hope city defenders have a bit of an advantage in sieges. Would be nice is cities last a while and aren't destroyed every month before they're built up.
onyx knoll
@void mural no release date, probably closer to 2022
void mural
@onyx knoll how do you know
onyx knoll
@simple pecan well, if they survive they're protected for at least a month from attacks
@void mural we don't it's a guess
simple pecan
2022 has been a safe bet.
scarlet lantern
Oh, Thanks for the info @stable plover ^^
crystal beacon
@void mural General game design timeframes suggest 2022 is the earliest we'll see this game
hollow lichen
will there be a discussion of what each class will offer with both the first class and secondary class?
void mural
jheeez 😭
versed hollow
@simple pecan city defence will depend on what the mayor sends resources to, there will be ample time to do this in advance of the battle starting
crystal beacon
@hollow lichen There will likely be many come alpha 2 when they get fully implemented.
hollow lichen
ok thank you 🙂
void mural
2022 is a long time to wait for me
onyx knoll
you and everyone else
void mural
how do the devs plan on keeping the hype going for more years
simple pecan
AFK until October 2022.
onyx knoll
Monthly updates
versed hollow
@void mural us kickstarter backers have been waiting 3 years already.
crystal beacon
When do they usually drop the next months pre order package? Or if I buy now can I switch to get those or will I have to purchase better items later on?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon the next one will be on the 5th
versed hollow
@void mural Alpha 1 will not have an NDA, so people creating videos and streaming will keep interest
crystal beacon
@void mural I don't think the devs really planed on hype reaching the peak it did right now due to LazyPeon's video, but they will likely continue monthly updates on progress as they have been.
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon you won't be able to SWITCH to a different one, but you'll be able to purchase the cosmetic only at a reduced price
desert ivy
Yeah, it's not like the devs planned for this hype to happen. But they're not gonna rush the game to accommodate the hype, cause then the game will just die on launch if it's not ready to launch.
stable plover
@crystal beacon They'll show off the new cosmetics before the change, for reference the last cosmetics were shown off 7 days before the rotation happened.
undone magnet
Hype will self sustain so long as Devs show that they're successfully coding the extremely ambitious number of features they're planning.
hollow lichen
If i bought the beta 1 tester pre-order pack would I still have the chance to be in it or have I missed the chance?
versed hollow
@hollow lichen earliest you can currently purchase into is Alpha 2, so if you bought a pack that gives you Beta 1 access, then you 100% will be in it
hollow lichen
ok thank you
muted loom
Are any of the Beta 1 or 2 still active?
crystal beacon
We're not even in alpha 1 yet
onyx knoll
@muted loom @hollow lichen beta 1 and 2 are probably going to be late next year
ivory latch
and soon after beta the release 😍
versed hollow
@ivory latch Players who refer and invite new players can receive 15% of their account purchases back as Intrepid Bucks. Aka you get a kickback when someone you refer purchases stuff
crystal beacon
Ok. Thanks for the info
ivory latch
oh so that 15% can go higher the more i invite ?
versed hollow
It would be 15% of what each person spends
ivory latch
yeah i got that. i was thinking if i invite more i can get 20% ?
versed hollow
no
rose plover
@versed hollow alpha2 yes, but it seems kickstarters can still upgrade to alpha 1 packages
ivory latch
oh oki
muted loom
is it possible to upgrade packages after purchase or do i pay the full price?
crystal beacon
You can upgrade for the price difference
versed hollow
@muted loom yes you can upgrade, you will keep any rewards you already have, and then you receive what the higher packs give you. Price you pay to upgrade is the difference of value between the packs.
versed delta
Will you be able to swap between different sub classes? If you swap back will you retain your progress? Will this let you do different builds for different situations without having to level alts?
onyx knoll
@versed delta Yes you can switch, it'll take some effort and a quest but you can switch secondary (not primary). There is no progress loss that i'm aware, since you don't lvl you secondary independently. You can do different builds, but you can't switch in the middle of dungeons or stuff like that
versed hollow
@versed delta yes you will be able to swap sub-class, however doing so will require a reasonable amount of effort to do so. As far as progress, you will likely just need to assign skill points ang augments again
versed delta
I was just wondering if you could perhaps switch your gear and secondary on the fly.
onyx knoll
not on the fly
versed delta
hmm
versed delta
One thing I really liked about Elder Scrolls Online was the ability to change my gear and skills to change my role completly
onyx knoll
unfortunately it won't be as free-form as ESO's or WoW spec switch
versed delta
Seems like this game will reward players who want to play on a single character, but if this means that you are stuck playing the same role, that might not be the best
onyx knoll
You can always level alts 🙂
versed delta
Would be nice to be able to switch between being a tank as a healer as needed
yeah, I hate leveling ults, especially in a game that seems as in depth as AOC.
I could level an ult in ESO in a day or two
not 6 months like in WoW
onyx knoll
If you want to discuss this further then feel free to head to #aoc-discussion , we try to leave this place as clear as possible for questions
versed delta
I like the way FFXIV does it with secondary classes
versed hollow
@versed delta Swapping like that will require you to make a second character, the sub-classes are there to augment your primary class, and do not add any additional skills
versed delta
I understand
but I bet cleric + tank makes a good tank, and cleric + cl;eric makes a good healer
that plus some gear swapping means I could change roles
empty marsh
can someone send me referral code in DM
versed hollow
@versed delta not necessarily, that combo could augment skills to provide a shield to allies upon healing them, for example
versed delta
I guess I will have to wait and see 🙂
I just get scared being locked into a single role like WoW
I like to make different builds for different situations
solemn magnet
Is there any possible way to get my hands on any backer rewards from kickstarter or am I simply too late and will never have a chance of obtaining any of these? 🙂
versed delta
I don't mind leveling secondary classes
versed hollow
@solemn magnet unfortunately too late, kickstarter rewards are only for kickstarter
solemn magnet
Alright, thank you
lapis sonnet
So, what is the mob difficulty for this game?like on a scale of 0-10 how hard are mobs on level to kill and is each class good against something?
versed hollow
@lapis sonnet hard to say as the game is still in early development
crystal beacon
^
lapis sonnet
right just wanted to see what we could possibly be looking at as far as starter type baseline as i like challenges, but dont want it to be to overwhelming...like the aspect of needing skill and punishing defeat but im not like trying to spend my time dead ya know?...like i want the fine line between i can reasonably do it albeit maybe tricky, but not impossible
good idea just saying fun for me is in the details and the difficulty, as if a game is a cake walk whats the point
versed hollow
@lapis sonnet at release everything will be fairly low lvl as nodes haven't been build up yet, but as nodes grow, you will find more higher level enemies as well as world bosses depending of the node stage. The game is being balanced around group play, but that doesn;t mean you won't be able to do stuff on your own
main mason
@lapis sonnet compared to other MMO this will be a challenge because it goes back to basics in the sense of hand holding and information gathering. There is no tutorial beyond probably an initial guidance. you need to find quests by yourself and figure out how to complete them. The environment will constantly evolve with node progression and its sandbox in the sense that what end game is for you might not be the same for someone else
lapis sonnet
beautiful...absolutely beautiful descriptions folks...im in >:D especially as ill prolly b playing with my homie dre my friend angel and my mom in the same group
main mason
If one day you feel like a maniacal murderer, as long as you attain to the consequences you can do that, you want to sit at a pub and play chance games there you go, want to mine and craft to your hearts content that there too, want to walk the forest alone at night and be butchered by a group of PKs you better watch out.
lapis sonnet
:p PKers? hmmmmm well...it might be best to drink myself away at night...especially weekends XD as i do tht anyway sometimes
main mason
very minimal fast travel so there will be a nice exploration experience
versed hollow
do you mind continuing in #aoc-discussion, keep this channel for questions
lapis sonnet
nah, im pretty much good atm anyway ty for all the info
acoustic bison
Coming here from the discussion chat, the size of the world was supposed to be 450~km in size with 118Nodes holding up to 10k players. If each node can harbor 80 players per node, how big will each node be to accomodate said players so that we are not forced to infringe on other players spots for resource gathering/farming mobs/etc?
noble elk
How big can a family be ?
versed hollow
@noble elk Families are up to 8 people
crystal beacon
@acoustic bison Infringing on other player's spots for resources/farming is basically a design pillar of the game
severe flame
No, he said they can be 8. We dont know if expansion would let us get say 10-12
noble elk
If I ride a boat that I own and the family tp away does by boat just sit there in the water ?
crystal beacon
We don't know specifics of ship content yet
versed hollow
@acoustic bison Nodes will be limited by the node next to them, you will likely find most people in the higher stage nodes, and less towards the outside
noble elk
Oh ok
acoustic bison
So what you are saying is, will 80 people be fighting over the same resources on that one node, or will there be enough space where infringing on people for resources is a choice, not a requirement to survive?
noble elk
Then what about mounts ?
versed hollow
@severe flame https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Families
Families are limited to a max of 8 people, the same as the party size
noble elk
Like if I ride a horse and then get off does it just stay there
crystal beacon
With the way node leveling and the vassal system works, it is highly unlikely (read: basically impossible) that there will be an even spread of people across the world.
versed hollow
@acoustic bison not everyone will be gathering at the same time, some will be in dungeons, some breeding animals for mounts, some PvPing, lots to do
acoustic bison
So if all the high level players are in the high level areas, wont that just mean there will be constant pvping over resources on the node?
(basically im trying to ask since Im worried about this game having BDO's Karmabombing issue)
crystal beacon
@acoustic bison That's where player/guild/alliance politics come into play.
main mason
@acoustic bison there wont be 80 people per node, node progression locks the surrounding nodes so they cant grow so basically there will be higher populated nodes and lower populated nodes, and neighbors will probably travel from node to node
crystal beacon
@acoustic bison There are other measures taken to avoid karma bombing in the flagging system.
acoustic bison
Besides corruption?
versed hollow
@acoustic bison with how the dungeon systems work, the higher lvl players will have to go through the lower lvl parts of dungeons to get to the higher lvl areas
wintry river
What do you get from owning a node?
crystal beacon
@acoustic bison You can't damage somebody unless you purposefully flag to do so, so no one can force you to flag. People can still just attack you, but, that's just going to be an aspect of this game, I'm afraid.
severe flame
@versed hollow The wiki is based on him saying 8 is possible, not saying thats limited to 8
versed hollow
@acoustic bison also, as a corrupted person, dying is a way to reduce your corruption , as well as farming xp to lower it
severe flame
Watched the source to double check, I seen that livestream 3-4 times now ^^
versed hollow
@severe flame Steven doesn't want you to be able to mass teleport people to one area, it will stay at 8 people
crystal beacon
If anything, it would more likely be lowered than increased.
severe flame
He wants the number to stay low, but he never said 8 is the limit. It could be possible that we get 10, or less than 8 as V said
acoustic bison
Ok I think I understand now. Thank you!
wintry river
Wait so what’s the point of building up a node? What does it give you?
crystal beacon
@acoustic bison TO answer your original/base concern, how many people a node will be able to comfortably house from a content perspective isn't really able to answered right now, and we'll have to see going forward in testing.
versed hollow
@wintry river leveling a node will unlock harder content such as extra areas in dungeons, raid bosses, as well as things like ship building for costal nodes
crystal beacon
On top of the benefits the node itself brings, as higher level nodes bring more convenience options/housing options/constructables like marketplaces and whatnot
severe flame
Recommend watching content on youtube regarding the nodes since its massive and even with all the info we been given im sure there is even more out there.
versed hollow
the wiki has lots of info too https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes
unkempt depot
Will we be able to create food from the corpses of other players?
acoustic bison
Yes I kinda gathered that. I do hope to see this being brought up as that is a big turn off for players who just wanted to farm for stuff but get forced out by people encroaching on the resources in an area. Hopefully that will be seen more as testing progresses, because a lack of resources with a massive amount of high level players will just mean perpetual corruption, war, etc which can prevent people just hitting the end game/high level areas from even getting close.
crystal beacon
I... strongly doubt it
versed hollow
@unkempt depot unlikely, very unlikely
crystal beacon
@acoustic bison Risk vs Reward is basically the base design pillar of this game, along with working together with fellow players to overcome potential hurdles. It's likely never going to be a wholly safe experience going out to farm.
versed hollow
@acoustic bison gathering spots won't be static for the most part, they will spawn randomly, as well as some more abundant ore veins (for example) that will have x amount of resource available for people to gather
lost imp
does fog of war apply to point of interest within a node or on the larger scale of node to node visibility
versed hollow
@lost imp Players will not be able to see the world until they have explored it or gathered information about it. The world is also full of imperfect information, which will require the player to act on it for verification.
For example, you may hear a rumor in a tavern that tells you the location of a cave full of weak Kobolds, but this was not accurate as the rumor was started by well-equipped bandits in order to waylay overconfident adventurers.
acoustic bison
Thank you! That definitly cleared up my question more. If I get the opportunity to test the game though, definitly should make sure that the whole Karmabombing thing doesnt happen here or something similar. (Basically i understand that this game is revolving around risk and reward, but what i dont want to see is players being stuck outside of the reward factor because of some design undersight)
versed hollow
@acoustic bison keep in mind that for PvP if you're not flagged you can only attack a corrupted player, if that person kills you, they become more corrupted and lose combat effectiveness in PvP unless against a bounty hunter. at a certain point it will be extremely detrimental for a corrupted player to kill a non-combatant, and you can for them to kill you to karma-bomb
stray current
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/ is a wonderful place!
acoustic bison
Yes but this question is something that I didnt find in the wiki
stray current
It was more for the fog of war...
crystal beacon
@acoustic bison Karma bombing (as I understand it) isn't really possible due to exp loss and the flagging system. You can't force someone to attack you, if you attack them they don't get corruption for killing you, and you lose exp (and a %of gathered materials) on death. However, fighting over resources can (and will) happen, and there will likely be times where you want to do one thing, but someone else wants to do it as well, and they're stronger than you. In this case, you'll either have to go elsewhere, or get friends to help you.
young spindle
So for the PVP flagging how will AoE spells work as far as accidental hits especially at launch where 1/4 the server is at the same location
acoustic bison
If you dont mind can i DM you to explain what I mean by that?
crystal beacon
@young spindle Your AoE abilities simply won't hit other people unless you're flagged to do so.
versed hollow
@young spindle there will likely be a button you have to press to force yourself to attack a non-combatant, I've seen this other other MMO's as well. anyone that's flagged will be able to attack each other like you would a monster
crystal beacon
Last I heard it was ctrl+f to flag, and there could potentially be checkbox option to allow aoe attacks or heals to automatically hit flagged targets when you are not flagged.
versed hollow
non-flagged cannot hurt flagged players, only corrupted
and non-flagged cannot heal flagged player too
crystal beacon
Meaning a checkbox option to auto-flag you when attempting to do so, if you'd like that to happen
versed hollow
From the wiki: Players will be able to opt-in (via a checkbox) to allow their beneficial or non-beneficial AoEs to hit flagged players. If this is checked then AoE heals or damage will affect flagged players. If it is not checked then the AoE will not damage or heal any flagged players, and as such will not cause the caster to be flagged themselves (if they are not already)
so yes, auto flagging is possible
stiff vessel
Are the maps on Apocalypse lifted from the main game? I understand the buildings probably are not or are upgrade options of the nodes, but I'd love to see on a world map where the Apocolypse maps are geographically.
brisk scarab
Can you upgrade packs if you get a cheaper one first?
hallow venture
Can we refund skill points?
versed hollow
@brisk scarab yes
brisk scarab
Ty @versed hollow
versed hollow
@hallow venture you will be able to, how easy this is, is to be determined
hallow venture
Ty ty
versed hollow
@stiff vessel afaik, the apocalypse map is part of the larger world. I do know that player that were in Alpha 0 will be able to find the area they explored in the world as well.
stiff vessel
ah okay, i figured they would be snippets, and it also works as adding a sense of familiarity so i do like that.
tepid night
Can we request a game-suggestions channel?
sonic igloo
what do we know on mounts so far? Husbandry allows you to crossbreed, what about combat abilities? i know fliers are rare and add to the battlefield, although in what way, i dont know yet
tepid night
With this much hype im pretty sure a lot would be interested in sharing ideas
modest ermine
I mean Steve said they won't add extra stuff
tepid night
It's not necessarily mean new ideas
versed hollow
@sonic igloo Mounts will be tameable animals in the world, breeding the will create subspecies/variants. what creatures that can breed together will be unknown at first. As far as mount skills, we don't know yet. More can be found out at https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mounts
tepid night
Yeah i guess that's true but discord is more accessible than forums
dense fossil
Wait next month closed alpha or open?
crystal beacon
There are no open testing phases *currently planned
lofty verge
Oh Im literally watching Jahlon's review on the AMA right now. how about that. lol
versed hollow
@dense fossil Closed alpha
dense fossil
Kk
versed hollow
afaik, there isn't an Open Alpha or an Open beta. but beta keys will be given out at some point in a lottery system
dense fossil
Whats to be expected for next months alpha testing?
versed hollow
@dense fossil assuming the testing does actually start next month, it will likely be testing new systems that have been added in. Possibly more combat stuff
solar rapids
Is there more details on each class anywhere or have just the names been decided so far?
sonic igloo
@versed hollow thanks bud
jovial kayak
@solar rapids there's a video in YouTube talking about fighter, tank, cleric and mage
solar rapids
@jovial kayak ah so no in-depth detail around all 8 yet?
jovial kayak
Give me a sec, I saw one which only talked about those four, it is from a year ago though
versed hollow
@solar rapids the augments that the sub-classes give haven't been released yet, so apart from basic info, nothing
sonic igloo
id be interested in watching that
solar rapids
@versed hollow makes sense thank you
low lantern
@dense fossil if they bring back the Apoc for testing castle sieges after A1 then it will most likely be open testing
dense fossil
Ah ok
versed hollow
@low lantern according to the current release scedule, there are plans for Apoc to come back. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
but only for horde mode and castle siege
brisk scarab
The way I read what peon said in his video, apoc is IN the game right, the military way to capture?
unkempt depot
WOW, the backers get to start the game 1-2 days before everyone else?
versed hollow
@brisk scarab Apocalypse was the combat testing, it isn't currently available
jovial kayak
onyx knoll
@unkempt depot only on specific servers
wraith blaze
Will there be another stream for answering questions soon?
half tree
Hi All, Quick question. Does anyone know if they play to put random unique easter eggs through the world?
onyx knoll
So if you dont want to play with them just dont go on a early start server
jovial kayak
That's it, it is 2 years old though, I don't know if everything in there is still the same
versed hollow
@half tree there already is one for early testers, Alpha 0 testers will be able to find the area they explored. As for other easter eggs, they may add them, but they wouldn't be easter eggs if the told us
crystal beacon
@unkempt depot *some backers get a 2 day headstart *without node progression *one one server per region
half tree
I dont want to know what they are just that they will exist.
half they fun is walk off the beaten track to locate that sort of thing
jovial kayak
As to what I understood in a LiveAMA there will be some clues in the lore and story as you progress with quests in a node
Those might lead to legendary weapons or something of the sort
half tree
There is a chinese book translated to english called "Reincarnation of the strongest sword god" and alot of what has been said sounds like a game play version of the book. Witha few exceptions on character prograssion
latent parcel
In religion can I make sacrifices to my god?
half tree
the more I hear the more excited I get with the game. so cant wait