Bc it ways apoc under product
#questions
real parrot
rustic silo
Who dont care where to go
frail garnet
Try to keep to questions
real parrot
Says*
stable plover
Remember this channel is for Q&A, discussions need to move to one of the discussion channels.
real parrot
I mean mine is a question lol did I just spend 375 on the battle royal lol
slow meadow
@real parrot if you spent $375 then you will have access to the MMO testing as well. there was no package that was APOC only.
APOC was a testing platform not an actual product
real parrot
Okay ty
acoustic bolt
how many skills the primary classes will have? there's any info about it already?
ornate flint
Is there any system for if a mayor was elected then stopped playing the game? Or would that specific town be stuck without a mayor for a month
stable plover
@acoustic bolt Less than 30 on your bars at once is the closest quote we have on that
ornate flint
^ that we know of
rustic silo
@acoustic bolt not that Ive seen it anywhere. from what a UI looks like right now its not much
slow meadow
@acoustic bolt you will have a quite a few abilities available to you, but only be able slot "less than 30" abilities on your bar at one time. we don't know exact numbers at this time.
stable plover
@ornate flint It would be the month without a mayor
rustic silo
@ornate flint correct
acoustic bolt
@stable plover ty, cause i've played several mmo's i have more than 6k ours on BDO more than 10k on gw2 and a bunch on gw1 and gw1 was by far one the best experiences i ever had
onyx knoll
@ornate flint At the moment there are no way to kick out a Mayor that is offline for multiple days, but maybe they'll add something if it becomes a majot issue during testing
woeful cedar
if i buy the $375 pack do i get access now? or is alpha 2 not currently the build we are on?
acoustic bolt
Just because of the infinite ammount of builds you could create in the same class
onyx knoll
@woeful cedar we don't have a date for alpha 2, alpha 1 starts in fall
rustic silo
@woeful cedar Alpha 2 is next year
woeful cedar
ok thanks peeps
balmy juniper
"In addition to the cosmetic items granted with the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack at the time of purchase, you will also be entitled to purchase future monthly cosmetics as add-ons for the Voyager Plus Level Pre-Order Pack and below. Pre-Order Pack cosmetics are only available during the month they are featured, and will never be available again for purchase."
Does this mean we get "free" skins from the monthly rotation? If yes how many?
onyx knoll
no
primal solstice
@woeful cedar we don't have a date for alpha 2, alpha 1 starts in fall
@onyx knoll so what starts in summer? some phase are planted for summer no?
onyx knoll
it means you can buy the following month's skins on their own
balmy juniper
but you cant buy them if you just normally play the game? @onyx knoll
without buying a package
rustic silo
@primal solstice there is testing in summer, no sign ups for that though anymore
onyx knoll
The stuff that is in the pre-order packages will not be available later
@primal solstice https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
primal solstice
@primal solstice there is testing in summer, no sign ups for that though anymore
@rustic silo and the test will be playable by 10000 players and no nda?
stable plover
@primal solstice pre-alpha 1 is the current testing
rustic silo
onyx knoll
there will be no NDA in any of the testing once alpha 1 starts
rustic silo
Limited QA testing is daily sessions
stable plover
@primal solstice There are currently ~10000 people with confirmed A1 access, NDA will be gone by the time A1 officially starts, but currently exists for pre-alpha 1
onyx knoll
@balmy juniper
rustic silo
Summer testing is for Leader of Men backers
stable plover
@rustic silo Limited QA in this case just means not 24/7 and scheduled. The testing is under NDA atm and we have confirmation of two sessions that have taken place.
onyx knoll
So let's say you buy this month's 250$ package, you could buy every following month's cosmetics of the tier you bought for lower prices
proven root
oh did it change? or its the august one
rustic silo
They have planned a non nda session of QA in August correct though @stable plover
onyx knoll
Those are just example cosmetics from a previous month that are no longer available
glossy siren
this is a question that most people won't know but is there a date for its release
proven root
Gotcha
onyx knoll
No release date
glossy siren
damn
balmy juniper
@onyx knoll oh so the preorder pack currently has a rotation of skins each month?
proven root
yes ^
onyx knoll
Yes, the next rotation is on the 5th
stable plover
@rustic silo There's a session planned for August and NDA emails went out to LoM. (Leader of Men -> The package level from KS joining next months test)
balmy juniper
whats LoM?
rustic silo
Need to change info on schedule on wiki then
candid cave
Will the pvp balance devs actually play pvp?
rustic silo
Cause it says no NDA for August @stable plover
stable plover
@rustic silo it says no NDA for Summer, not no NDA for August (it could still be wrong, just pointing out the difference) - Summer goes until September 22
worn geyser
Is there plans for a flightless avian race in the future? I noticed there were a few different races already but I thought the inclusion of a Bird race would be super fun. Ex: Bird Bard. @plucky pawn
rustic silo
Hm, so there is another session after LoM in Summer then? @stable plover
proven root
thats a very specific question lol
dusk patio
@idle siren Good afternoon Steven, I was wondering if it was possible to reserve a guild name like you have the character name reservation option. Thanks.
glossy siren
another question for the archtypes if i got summoner for my second would i still be able to summon
stable plover
@worn geyser The addition of any races would be post launch content we haven't heard about, Tulnar will have reptillian/beastial/humanoid sliders and perhaps you could get a bit avian looking with the reptillian slider, but I wouldn't be expecting feathers
onyx knoll
The only "bestial" race would be the underrealm race, the Tulnar, but from what they've said so far the animalistic traits won't be no where near as obvious as the pics you linked
proven root
bad news for me who loved charrs in gw2 😢
onyx knoll
@glossy siren we don't have a specific answer for that but since 2nd archetypes don't add any skills and just modify the skills from your primary archetype it can be assumed that any archetype that uses summoner as a secondary will not have permanant summons
stable plover
@dusk patio Guild name reservations were sold as part of some KS packs -> so you could try to recruit someone who has one, but those also weren't marked as a KS exclusive so they could return at some point
rustic silo
@proven root why?
onyx knoll
There is no plan for a Charr or Worgen-like race SO FAR, that doesn't mean they'll never add them
proven root
It just sounded to me like theyre mostly gonna be humanoid
glossy siren
@onyx knoll thanks and that is a shame i wanted to play a tank summoner and just summon supports
proven root
loved the aggressive look of charrs in gw2
onyx knoll
We'll have more info on the effect of the full class combos once alpha 2 starts
limpid acorn
Give tabaxi race
onyx knoll
@rustic silo this image is out of date, apparently Steven told us to disregard this as they've changed direction
rustic silo
Ahh
onyx knoll
@dark jungle we should probably remove it from the wiki...
rustic silo
When?
dusk patio
@stable plover okay awesome thanks.
rustic silo
When was the change announced?
proven root
Ahh
onyx knoll
I can't find the quote atm, but @simple ether said he spoke to Steven about it and that's what Steven said
rustic silo
Ah, then whole entire Tulnar wiki needs to be remade
crystal beacon
I'm wondering if i could "purchase" some of the model data from AoC to 3d print.
rustic silo
There is a lot about beastly components and sliders
crystal beacon
not sure what the process would be for that, probably worth an email at least.
onyx knoll
they still will have beastly aspects, but nothing as massively obvious as a giant tail
rustic silo
So lizard tail but no furry lizard tail?
onyx stream
Is there a pvp section to read? Wanted to know if there will be instanced pvp or is it just open world pvp
versed badge
If we're reserving Guild Names, I got dibs on <Post Nut Clarity>
worn geyser
I like the idea of beast people. I just like options when it comes to the types of races to play. Not saying what is already in Alpha is bad. I quite like what there is. But i've always been partial to avian/beast races.
dark jungle
@onyx stream https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP
onyx stream
Thanks
onyx knoll
This is a question thread, if you want to discuss things like race options or guild names, please go to #aoc-discussion ❤️
worn geyser
Oh, sorry. Ty
rustic silo
@onyx knoll just want to clarify where the info comes from so I can watch
glossy siren
question for all who read this what is the feature you are most looking forward for?
dark jungle
@rustic silo nothing gets added or removed from the wiki unless it's based on something steven said directly
onyx knoll
@rustic silo I'm trying to find the quote
rustic silo
@dark jungle yeah thats why I am confused
dark jungle
wiki is based on citations, not opinion or hearsay
frail garnet
@glossy siren animal husbandry
rustic silo
Why wiki didnt change if apparently it is no longer exists
glossy siren
@frail garnet that is a cool one but i like the whole town building a mayor
and mayor
dark jungle
to remove something it needs to have a steven quote to say it needs to be removed. as soon as someone can provide a steven quote then it will gladly be changed
again the wiki is not based on opinion or hearsay
tame shard
Do any of you know if the devs have any plan to make a crowdsourcing translation for the game (stuff like localizor)? or will they hire professionals?
frail garnet
No one knows about that
rustic silo
@dark jungle I understand, just going to wait for @onyx knoll to confirm that pictures and info on wiki is outdated as he says
Through quote
full badger
Do any of you know if the devs have any plan to make a crowdsourcing translation for the game (stuff like localizor)? or will they hire professionals?
@tame shard There are plans to translate the game into a number of different languages including French, German, Russian, Spanish and Italian
stable plover
^Not all of those are planned for launch
tame shard
Do you know if there is a way to contribute to translation somehow?
stable plover
The wiki always needs more translators
reef crown
I would love to do that as well @tame shard
tough sierra
Is this game planning to launch in Japan as well?
rustic silo
@stable plover hey has there been any changes on Tulnar appearance that Steven confirmed recently?
stable plover
@tough sierra No announced plans for that yet
full badger
Is this game planning to launch in Japan as well?
@tough sierra Not specifically for Japan, but there will be OCE and SEA servers
rustic silo
Or this picture still viable
stable plover
@rustic silo I feel like at some point Steven said Tulnar appearance plans had changed (I can't find a source on that though - The wiki only changes based on sources), but we also don't have anything more up to date to replace that picture with anyway so knowing the idea behind the old version seems useful compared to nothing to me.
rustic silo
@stable plover okay, so nothing really confirmed yet. Alrighty
lunar hollow
From the lore, and the things we have been told. Tulnar is your "customizable character", it seems you can create dwarves, humans, orcs, elves, not just feral looking ones.
rustic silo
Yeah but seems there were changes to whole beastly thing sliders that no one can find a quote to. Hm hmm
stable plover
@rustic silo Oh I don't think that part has changed
rustic silo
@stable plover oh, cause people been saying that second to last beastly looking tulnar is no more. Incorrect?
lapis shard
didn't Steven mention in the latest AMA that they're aiming for character creations better than BDO? in that case every race will be highly customizable
onyx knoll
I never said anything about the sliders going away, just that there might not be any super obvious animal things like tails, but you could have animalistic features with sliders
stable plover
@rustic silo The slider idea doesn't seem to have changed, you just might end up with things different than the appearances of those silhouettes
marsh panther
@lapis shard he said on par or better
solemn wing
ok, did the migration thing (yeah been away for awhile, they kinda lost me when they went battle royale. Anyways, lost my username (which is a permanent loss) but my question is how do I get my role to show my Kickstarter pledge ... it still just says "Member" ... can't find anywhere to merge/migrate package?
weird that the usernames didn't "lock in"
thanks Lex!
frigid sandal
It is stated in wiki that player can have only one freehold per account. Does that mean, that all my characters can use this freehold?
dark jungle
yes
onyx knoll
all your characters on that server, yes
rustic silo
Beasts with no tails
@onyx knoll
crystal beacon
yes
onyx knoll
I,m not sure you could get that freehold on an other server since that spot might not have a node developped enough to be able to have a freehold on a different server
frigid sandal
Can I purchase freehold not being the citizen of the node?
frail garnet
Prbly not
rustic silo
Yes
onyx knoll
@rustic silo Not sure why that would be so shocking? You don't absolutely need a tail for a face to have animalistic features
lapis shard
owning a house is a prerequisite to becoming a citizen isn't it?
dark jungle
@frigid sandal yes, you purchase housing to qualify for node citizenship
rustic silo
@onyx knoll all beasts got tails, thats why its surprising to me. Used for balance
dark jungle
yes @lapis shard
lapis shard
so you can technically own houses in multiple nodes
rustic silo
Yes
lapis shard
oh no wait it's capped
dark jungle
yes @lapis shard
ancient sierra
With 64 classes and 8 races, with racial abilities I assume, how would all the combinations hold up with each other?
dark jungle
you can own an apartment in one node and a static house in another node for example
lunar hollow
didn't Steven mention in the latest AMA that they're aiming for character creations better than BDO? in that case every race will be highly customizable
@lapis shard Yeh, every race will be highly customizable, but each race will have a limit while the Tulnar will have way more options than other races.
lapis shard
but it's capped at 1 per type right? so 1 freehold per account, 1 static house per server and 1 appartment per server
rustic silo
Yes
dark jungle
yes you can only own one of each type of house on a server
and for freeholds you may only have one per account
leaden halo
Question: Is node XP progression based on server sizes?
Extreme Examples:
- Server 1 (populated server) = 10,000+ players provide 1,000,000+ xp/resources per day across all nodes.
- Server 2 (dead/new server) = 100+ players or less provide 10,000+ xp/resources per day across all nodes.
If.
Every player/unique account is providing 100 xp/resources per day on both servers. Do they theoretically have the potential to progress nodes at the same rate?
If no... server 2 will likely fail to progress at a steady rate, and have a very under-developed end game.
Countermeasures or Fixes.
- RELATIVE ACTIVE USERS: Relative to server online active users "unique accounts": the node XP values are recalculated on a hourly, daily, or weekly basis in some way relative to the population sizes. To provide progression competitiveness between servers.
- BELL CURVE: If all nodes fail to progress this could work but it rewards the server as a whole being lazy.
mild hinge
any one know what year the game will launch ?
lapis shard
onyx knoll
@leaden halo we don't have final numbers for the xp required to grow nodes, it's still being tested
dark jungle
@leaden halo yes node progression is indexed to server size via the world manager algorithm
glossy siren
@mild hinge nope
dark jungle
and yes, we may never know the underlying numbers and mechanics of node progression, to prevent people from gaming the system
mild hinge
oof
balmy juniper
will alpha 2 or beta 1 add the second class?
dark jungle
a2
lapis shard
A2
onyx stream
Saw a YouTube video of a battle royal aoc? Is that a game mode coming?
leaden halo
@dark jungle @onyx knoll Awesome thanks ^_^
whole dawn
betas are just for polish
lapis shard
@onyx stream it was a testing environment
onyx stream
So no...its not a game mode
opaque pivot
@stable plover pay me and I'll translate everything into german
lapis shard
there will still be a battle royal-type fight to become mayor of a military node but not like what was showcased in apocalypse
frail garnet
Questions only please @opaque pivot
opaque pivot
Ohh sry
onyx stream
It looks amamzing that battle royale video. Hopefully they will add a pvp instanced mode like that
lapis shard
yea
frail garnet
Anyone know if you will be able to transfer characters from server to server?
opaque pivot
Current call is no @frail garnet
lyric glade
do you have some wiki translate team?
want to try, but not sure if im good enough
frail garnet
feelsbad
lyric glade
ty
ancient sierra
With 64 classes and 8 races, with racial abilities I assume, how would all the combinations hold up with each other?
frail garnet
Balanced
lapis shard
they're balancing everything around groups of 8
frail garnet
Iguess
bleak zephyr
Is Summoner class going to be a support?
frail garnet
That is what they want
onyx stream
Gosh...just take my money already lol. When is preorder?
whole dawn
summoner is everything
ancient sierra
You can pre order now I think
onyx stream
Nice
onyx knoll
@onyx stream https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
onyx stream
And last q: any console plans?
bleak zephyr
What kind of preorder do i need to access alpha once its up.
whole dawn
MMOs on console are not a thing
onyx knoll
no console plans, pretty sure, but someone else might wana confirm
lapis shard
@bleak zephyr you can get access packs from the shop
loud creek
Does any1 know if they have in plans matching the colouring effects of spells with character "realistic" appearance? As it seems, chars have a "realistic" presentation and colours of spells look like Final Fantasy.
ancient sierra
Idk abou the classes though. There’s gonna be 3 that are gonna be op and and 10 that aren’t viable. They might prove me wrong but I’m scared imma choose a bad combo
onyx knoll
@ancient sierra you can change your 2nd archetype to make it a different combo
ancient sierra
I didn’t know that. Thanks!
onyx knoll
yeah it won't be free and on the fly like changing spec in WoW, but you can still change it if you feel like it's very underwhelming or doesn't fit your playstyle
lapis shard
everything in Ashes will require some effort
I'm actually glad ngl
stuff will finally mean something
glossy siren
listen don't fear the combos try to make something cool and have fun
you don't need to be op
lapis shard
^
onyx knoll
there's no damage meters anyway, so no one will know if your build sucks 😂
frail garnet
Anyone know how they will prevent scaming of mats?
onyx knoll
they actually encourage it lol
bleak zephyr
good to hear that lol
frail garnet
What!?
onyx knoll
They said if you can pull off a scam on an other player then good for you 😛
lapis shard
lmfao
onyx knoll
Unless you're using cheats and external tools, then you get the ban hammer
frail garnet
I get they encourage player interaction but.....
lapis shard
they will be coming down hard on bots though
mild hinge
will there be trading in ashes?
frail garnet
Yes
onyx knoll
it'll be a player's responsability to know the value of what they're buying! if you end up paying way too much for a bunch of iron, tough luck!
loud creek
They encourage it coz its endgame is based on social aspect. If you scam, you loose in long term.
onyx knoll
yes, player to player trading, as well as shops that players can set up, and in some nodes there will be auction houses that work in a certain zone
mild hinge
will i be able to fly kites in ashes?
onyx knoll
uh...... no idea loll
ebon star
Depends on social emotes
onyx knoll
@mild hinge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Economy
frail garnet
Very specific there but to our knoledfe no you cant fly kities
sand atlas
When can ppl with the braver of worlds pack join the alpha one?
mild hinge
hmm interesting
ebon star
@sand atlas an email will be sent to invite to the testing when it is available
sand atlas
Thats what i thought ty
ivory ginkgo
Are the name reservations for like surnames or just to reserve a specific username?
mild hinge
If i wanted the developers to add something to the game what are the steps i must take?
frail garnet
Get enough people who want it
ivory ginkgo
thank you, @simple ether
strange finch
perfect
mild hinge
who do i tell about my idea?
frail garnet
Steven or devs
ivory ginkgo
oh, so family name will be a different thing? for example in most games i use the username CadderlyMcAmbry so to do so correctly in aoc i should probably use the username Cadderly and make a family McAmbry?
whole dawn
do we know if there will be different types of physical damage, like slashing, piercing, bludgeoning?
mild hinge
i would love to be able to fly kite in ashes
strange finch
that is the only correct way to do names in an MMO
dark dagger
Will there be proximity and/or global chat?
ebon star
Proximity chats
nimble charm
Do we know if artisan buildings (like forges) are going to be exclusive to free holds? Or can we expect nodes to have the option as well?
marble basin
I believe group and proximity chats have been mentioned
ebon star
Forges will be in nodes and freeholds. The in node ones will be based on what buildings mayors choose to create
nimble charm
Thank you 🙂
ebon star
@dark dagger the wiki has a full list of all planned text and voice chats
hushed flume
Question, So say, you are a mayor of a node, and you get corrupt to the point that guards attack you on sight. Will the guards of your own node attack you?
whole dawn
@simple ether can we add '-' into our names?
hyphens are pretty common, hope they add them
balmy juniper
when do you guys think A2 will start?
mild hinge
@simple ether not exactly sure what the means
full badger
when do you guys think A2 will start?
@balmy juniper next year
balmy juniper
yea but January next year or december next year
onyx knoll
@mild hinge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Families
onyx stream
Any controller support? For those not comfortable with K&M?
desert ivy
Probably like August next year for A2 imo
mild hinge
thank you
onyx knoll
@balmy juniper we don't know, it'll depend on how well the alpha 1 goes
balmy juniper
how to get into a1?
onyx knoll
you can't anymore
hushed flume
@onyx stream I heavily doubt it. An MMO of this size is meant for the PC population. So it will probably be played as such.
onyx stream
Thanks
desert ivy
Controller support will be something they work on closer to launch
nimble charm
Also. If a mayor gets elected, but becomes inactive during his time in office, is there a fallback against that? Say I became a mayor, and decided not to allocate any buildings, and just went offline for a month. Will the node suffer for the whole month or will there be a plan b?
desert ivy
onyx knoll
@nimble charm There are currently no ways to forcefully remove an elected mayor, so you'd have a month where nothing happens
mild hinge
okay thank you
frail garnet
Will your progress reset from alpha and beta?
loud sun
Question that I'm sure has been asked.
I backed when the Kickstart was going on in 2017 and I see that I can upgrade my backing on the intrepid shop. If I do so will that mess with any of the Kickstart exclusive stuff I will get from my previous backing?
onyx stream
I meant controller support on pc...but I guess nothings on this yet
nimble charm
thank you @onyx knoll
quaint oxide
Will other players be able to buy goods from someone else, which will then be transported through the caravan system? How does player to player interaction work with the caravan system?
median parcel
have they said if they are doing random invites/keys or is it only pay to access for alpha or beta
frail garnet
No it wont mess up your kickstarter support
onyx knoll
@quaint oxide You can trade to other players, so you could go to someone's storage buy a ton of stuff from them and then put them in a caravan you control to bring them somewhere else, or pay that player to take his own caravan to you.
latent parcel
I’m back
quaint oxide
ty
latent parcel
Can we t-bag?
frail garnet
Yes
latent parcel
Good
frail garnet
But it is kinda toxic
latent parcel
I know
frail garnet
I ould not recomend
onyx knoll
@median parcel They mentioned it for the beta, giving keys through contest I THINK, not 100% sure, but I don't think for the alpha they will give out keys, unless your name is Asmongold
median parcel
Lmao
latent parcel
So can I still be captain jack sparrow
real dock
Is there going to be In Game Mail? Since there's node chat but no world chat; would be interesting to see Next Day Mail to other players.
hushed flume
@latent parcel 
median parcel
Im assuming you need to be a big boy content creator 😦
frail garnet
@onyx knoll will my progress from alpha 2 and beta get reset?
latent parcel
Who wants to join my mercenary crew of pirates that will rule the seas
onyx knoll
Right, Jahlon, I'm officially requesting a Beta key, kthx! ;D @median parcel yeah most likely, it is a marketing tactic :/
@frail garnet yes
real dock
@simple ether Definitely a good thing. Mail is broken when you can just send plethora of items.
onyx knoll
@latent parcel #aoc-guild-recruitment Please leave this channel open for questions
median parcel
I mean i understand it but people who want to be CC's but have yet to take off kinda sucks 😛
radiant vapor
have they discussed what swimming combat will be like? in archeage it worked pretty well but in bdo you cant even use attacks in the water
latent parcel
@simple ether were you the guy who did the video on boats and the sea
onyx knoll
@radiant vapor I don't think we have details on water combat yet, all the info is here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Underwater
glossy siren
another question are you going to add like food and water meter
onyx knoll
No, it's not a survival game 😛
glossy siren
k
latent parcel
@simple ether since you did the video on the sea can you tell me if I can make people walk the plank
Oh
gaunt vortex
@simple ether hey I got a question about the family teleport thing what’s stopping me from having an alt on one corner of the map and another alt at the far other corner of the map where my farming spot is and when I get a full bag I just teleport to the place I make the most money at across the map then teleport back to my spot and keep farming? (Sorry for the essay)
onyx knoll
@latent parcel I feel like most of your more specific questions won't be answered until they flesh out the naval systems in aplha 2, so for now I recommend you keep an eye out for news and wait ^^
latent parcel
How will we get back to land if our ship is destroyed @simple ether
ebon star
Nothing except cast time and cooldown as of now for family summon
latent parcel
Oh
onyx knoll
@gaunt vortex There will be very long cooldowns on the family teleport, plus your carry capacity is very limited with just a player inventory.
gaunt vortex
I heard it was only like 30 minutes
ebon star
You will have to pay attention to the quests think classic style of read and understand the directions. Right now there is a wayfinder that assists direction but not a mini map circled area system. But that is subject to change
onyx knoll
@undone prairie more hardcore then friendly, no auto-pathing and Steven has mentioned that he wants the map not too have a lot of information on it so it probably won't pinpoint you to the exact spot but that's not been confirmed I think
glossy siren
going back to the food and water are you going to add food and drinks that had buffs like every other mmo rpg
latent parcel
I saw in a video someone (player 1) traded places with someone else (player 2) while (player 1) was falling, causing (player 2) to die, would (player 1) get corruption for this
K
safe bridge
So corupt can lose armor and weps when they die, but what do they get for killing a combatant or non combatant? otherwise whats point in killing anyone
onyx knoll
@glossy siren Yes, tavern owners will be able to prepare special food to sell in their establishments that will give special buffs, too!
glossy siren
that is neet
onyx knoll
right? i love that idea
latent parcel
Can I poison the food?
onyx knoll
@safe bridge they get a % amount of materials and processed goods from the player they kill
latent parcel
Dang it
frail garnet
@undone prairie more hardcore then friendly, no auto-pathing and Steven has mentioned that he wants the map not too have a lot of information on it so it probably won't pinpoint you to the exact spot but that's not been confirmed I think
@onyx knoll
You will get a more fleshed out map the more you explore
Steven said
onyx knoll
yeah but he also said he didn't want things like dungeon entrance to show on the world map, like in WoW for exemple
frail garnet
Ohh yeah totally
sweet void
I hope theres a map based on what uve explored then u can use that to make a map
torpid lantern
There will be no NDA on Alpha One, right? I'm a bit sad that we can't get into Alpha One anymore, but being able to watch streams will certainly ease the pain.
onyx knoll
I don't think there were mentions for those sort of info on the map, @undone prairie , maybe they'll give you the ability to write notes on the map tho, that would be neat
@torpid lantern correct, no NDA
slim shuttle
Btw, do we have a trial month for players to test out exp?
torpid lantern
@simple ether If they do that, I'd assume the price for it will be reduced depending on what pack you already bought, right?
latent parcel
@simple ether relating to augments with water mage augment have more of an effect at sea
frail garnet
@slim shuttle no
onyx knoll
@slim shuttle at the moment no, they said they wanted to release a character creator early but no mentions of test trials
lapis shard
@simple ether reopen a1 sales? 👀
hushed flume
Will summoning familiars be a short cast, or will it take 5 minutes or so just to summon one? I have read that summons will require a moment to cast so you have to plan ahead on what you may need. Just wanted to confirm.
lapis shard
ooooohhhhh good to know there's a possibility
torpid lantern
Awesome, thanks for giving me hope
onyx knoll
@hushed flume we should get more info on the base archetype of summoner when alpha 1 launches, at the moment we don't have much
frail garnet
Jahlon how does the movment feel?
latent parcel
How will summoners be a vital part of a team what will they provide
latent parcel
Yea but you need a summoner with another class
frail garnet
And for siege
latent parcel
Like bard summoner
frail garnet
It is good there
latent parcel
Or archer summoner
torpid lantern
I'd assume it also varies depending on which skills you spec into
onyx knoll
@latent parcel again, more info on that when alpha 1 launches, more info on how they work as a 2nd archetype when alpha 2 launches
latent parcel
Will a summoner’s Summon be affect by the augment like with fire a fire dog?
onyx knoll
How summoner and bard work is mostly speculations at the moment, if you want to speculate away you are free to do so, but please do it in the #aoc-discussion channel 😛
shut chasm
Is there any mechanism in place to stop PK guilds from building corruption, then using guildmates to kill each other to wipe that corruption and give back any gatherables/gear that drop?
torpid lantern
WoW has ruined me when it comes to movement. You can say what you want about WoW as a game as a whole, but I've never found another MMO where the movement feels that smooth. But I can tolerate the movement not being that good as long as it's not too floaty or stiff.
onyx knoll
@latent parcel Are you ignoring what I'm telling you on purpose? I'm not sure how many different ways you want me to phrase this.... :/ we do not have a lot of information on summoner, nor how their augments will function
shut chasm
That's good that there is no way to game that system, that we know of yet.
latent parcel
Because hell hound would be really cool
onyx knoll
@shut chasm I'm sure people will figure out ways to game the system, but that's what the aplha is for, so they can patch those holes 😛
latent parcel
For a summon
frail garnet
Neat
steady ocean
That would be lovely
latent parcel
Nice
crystal beacon
man wish I had signed up last month lol
sweet void
I watched stevens ama about the teleporting using family and zerg mentality, although a family of 8 is small compare to guild teleporting, but wouldn't it still be a same logic of a zerg mentality? I mean we grouping against one person is basically absuing the system, right?
torpid lantern
When Steven talked about multiboxing in this latest Q&A, it felt like he was just referring to people having / being logged into multiple accounts. They are okay with that. But do we know if they will also be okay with people actually controlling multiple characters at the same time with the help of multiboxing software like ISBoxer? I really hope that won't be permitted.
latent parcel
There is a monthly fee so that probally won’t happen
steady ocean
He stated that multiple accounts on differents boxes was okay, not 1 person controlling multiple from the same box
slow sky
3rd party software will not be permitted
acoustic bolt
There's already known how many "minions" a conjurer or necro can have at the same time?
onyx knoll
@torpid lantern If you are using a script or macros to control multiple charcters at once, that would be bannable
latent parcel
That’s stupid
torpid lantern
Awesome.
latent parcel
Only 3
oblique scarab
Anyone know if the Summer KS Braver of Worlds Majesty costume for males looks similar to the Normal KS BoW Royalty set? I would love to look like a king.
acoustic bolt
meh 3 its not to much
short cave
will this be on console
onyx knoll
@short cave no
steady ocean
@short cave No plans at this time I believe
torpid lantern
I have no issue with people owning multiple accounts (I plan on owning 2 accounts myself), but I really dislike people having an advantage by controlling multiple characters at once. Glad to hear that won't be allowed.
latent parcel
Will there be gear to increase the number of summons
frail garnet
Prbly
acoustic bolt
that would be nice
frail garnet
But most likley would be legendary gear
acoustic bolt
Cause only 3 summons, depending of the nature of the summons dont seems enough
or atleast appealing
frail garnet
Or they die
glossy siren
yeah that too
strange finch
I wonder how Keeper (Tank-Summoner) will work...
acoustic bolt
i rather have ( like gw1 ) more summons as a necro but some of them ( the most powerfull ones ) would take your own life to survive and you would need to heal yourself using spellvamp skills or healers
tawdry forum
Does the loot from naval caravans sink or float?
frail garnet
Hmm well we can only speculate on how clases will work but nothing sure yet @strange finch
glossy siren
cause it said tanks, dps or supports on the wiki
strange finch
like I will for sure play tank as my primary class, and I heard you can change your secondary, but still, a tank-summoner combo is really intriquing
pliant ocean
@strange finch My best guess would be that your abilities spawn extra shields to take damage for you.
strange finch
perfect
glossy siren
yeh that sounds cool
frail garnet
@tawdry forum we have to wait to know that prbly till alpha 2
torpid lantern
I still have absolutely no idea what class I want to main. Guess I'll have to wait and see the combat during the testing phases
gaunt otter
Will there be an interrupt ability in some specs? Furthermore, will some casters have multiple schools of magic for example a mage with fire/frost at the same time
quaint oxide
im sure
torpid lantern
There will be soft and hard CC abilities
quaint oxide
especially stuff like archwizard
glossy siren
well based on all of them you need a little of both @gaunt otter
torpid lantern
Soft CC includes things like silence, which I assume would also interrupt a cast in progress
frail garnet
Yeah cc would do that
strange finch
I will end up being a Paladin or a Guardian for that meta tanking ability will I?
onyx knoll
@torpid lantern yes there will be soft and hard CCs, hard CC will be skill shots, while soft CC might be tab-target skills
strange finch
threat?
onyx knoll
@glossy siren hatred is threat, if you have the most in your team, then the mob is attacking you
glossy siren
so pvp it does nothing
gaunt otter
How fast is the combat say compared to an mmo like wow which has snappy responsive and fluid combat/spell response. Is aotc following suite to that sort of combat or is it going to be more sluggish? What's the GCD at currently?
torpid lantern
Soft CC = things that impair your movement (like roots) or your ability to cast (like silence), while hard CC = things that prevent both your movement and your ability to cast
verbal mirage
Curious if character movement is taken very seriously because it's the mmo destroyer for me if the game doesn't feel good just based off movement its a huge turn off. WoW has been the only mmo that has gotten the movement correct and just wanted to see if it's a huge focus point for them.
torpid lantern
afaik
strange finch
@verbal mirage BDO has done movement pretty well as well
glossy siren
ohh that sounds neet
verbal mirage
bdo was decent it was not very polished though
frail garnet
@verbal mirage movment is a big point for them
strange finch
it felt great with the use of movement skills
onyx knoll
They are aware that combat/movement is a very important part of the game and will be working hard to make it fluid
gaunt otter
What about GCD? What's that tlike and does the combat feel anywhere near as fluid/snappy as wows does?
frail garnet
^
gaunt otter
Or is it going to be slower like FFXIV
onyx knoll
The combat is still being tweaked so it's hard to say atm @gaunt otter
gaunt otter
I really hope they stick with the fact and snappy combat wow has because imo that's what makes wow good despite having hundreds of other issues. Combat is crucial to perfect
verbal mirage
it's a UE4 game i have never played one that felt good movement wise so i hope they get it correct
crystal beacon
Do you guys think because how the equipment durability works in the game most of the players with have basic equipment on them like:iron,leather,cloth 80% of the time?And use the good stuff only in raiding pvp and such?
thick pendant
Does anyone know if one race only guilds will be a thing, so a guild can influence the theme of a whole region?
blazing rock
Does anyone know how the boat spawning system will work? As in -> Will you access the boat via inventory item (Spawning at water source, similar to Archeage) or will it be accessible from a dock at the specified node you create it at?
pliant ocean
@thick pendant That is likely a thing. I know our Guild is mostly going Elf. But not all of us.
thick pendant
@simple ether i was thinking more places of multiple vassal nodes are only occupied by one race
onyx knoll
@thick pendant In theory you can, it'll be up to the players to agree as a big group to do that
crystal beacon
Ah just noticed Jahlon mention hate mechanics in PvP. Such a.l simple solution to keep tanks relevant and I really don’t know why more games haven’t done it.
frail garnet
Like tulnar in the underworld @thick pendant
thick pendant
Ah that makes sense, ty
blazing rock
So @simple ether you will spawn the boat from land onto a water source via inventory item? I'm just curious if the completed boats will be tradeable/marketable. Kind of wanting to get into boat crafting from the get go.
crystal beacon
Like trove
thick pendant
@frail garnet i was more hoping for an elven wonderland 😂
crystal beacon
Is this game playable aka can be bought at the intrepid store, now?
frail garnet
@blazing rock boats are sellable if that is what you are asking
crystal beacon
75 bucks looks like the cheapest option
whole dawn
boats are basically aquatic caravans right?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon No, we're starting alpha 1 in the fall which you can't buy into anymore
hexed dock
As a player from BDO and where karma system is heavily abused, has there been any talks on how to avoid karma bombing? Example: Player comes to grind spot and there is already a someone, they fight for the spot like you should but after the other person loses he stays at the spot and griefs the other players grind with minimal gear for higher karma punishment
heavy cradle
Hello I have a crucial question which is of utmost importance
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon If you buy the 75$ pack that'll give you access to the beta, sometime in the future, maybe a year and a half from now
heavy cradle
Please advise as to when the only command known to please the masses has been killed
💀💀💀
crystal beacon
Wut
crystal beacon
Okay I'll be back, gonna try ESO I guess heh
blazing rock
Okay, thank you. Was just curious, I always get into naval pvp/cargo transport in mmos that have it available, one of my favorite things to do. If what you said is correct, looks like I can actually make a trade out of it.
heavy cradle
It is a question
quartz copper
Don’t waste your time on eso 
heavy cradle
The stream command has died
I told you
I see you trying it
😭
I pinged Toast, she understands the travesty that is no daily !stream check
😭
Back to Q&A, welcome everyone who is new here, ask away.
hexed dock
@simple ether But in a situation where the other person doesn't want to leave even when you keep killing him?
steady ocean
Then you both try to get the resource
frail garnet
I meant like you sell all the parts required @simple ether
onyx knoll
@simple ether call friends, or remove your flag so when they kill you they gain corruption and start being penalised by the game
oops
@hexed dock
sorry Jahlon
hexed dock
I guess its just my BDO mindset then, i just see the losing player abusing the system and only out of spite griefing your resourses or mobs
And the killer cant do anything about it
frail garnet
Will you be able to sell eggs as animal husbandry?
Like mount eggs
Oh thanks
You are really nice
hexed dock
That is true! Seems like i have to adopt a different mindset to how you play this game
ornate ivy
hopefully
hasty osprey
im curious if you can be a green name then attack something make it lower your health then run in front of someone's attack to make them kill you and give them corrupt status?
frail garnet
Can someone explain this chart I dont get it? https://images.app.goo.gl/HUe9peA7tPu9QZcC7
south silo
Just had a question pop in my head that I wanted to ask before I forget. Sorry for jumping in.
Do we know yet if our alts will be able to be citizens of other cities that our mains are not?
I'm wondering this because people could use alts as spies or something similar.
digital yacht
frail garnet
Thanks
hasty osprey
@simple ether Oh so if you dont flag then you dont have to worry about your abilities hitting ppl?
onyx knoll
@hexed dock This game doesn't really encourage ganking people that don't want to pvp, but it doesn't prevent it. So let's say you see someone farming in a spot, and you want that spot, you decide to flag up and attack them. The person can either try to defend their spot and attempt to kill you by also flagging, or they can let themselves be killed without flagging. If they do flag up, and they kill you, then you lose a bit of materials/processed stuff, and you gain some negative xp. You can come back and try again until one of you decide to leave.
If the person you attacked decides to NOT defend themselves, and you still decide to kill them, then you will gain corruption. You'll get a larger amount of mats from them, but now bounty hunters will be after your ass. The losing player could then come back and attack you, and because you became corrupted before, they don't even need to flag anymore to kill you, and you'll have lowered stats... So yes, you could say that the game does reward the loser of the combat in that situation
real dock
@onyx knoll Are you a loser in combat if you did not participate in combat?
slow sky
Attacking a corrupt player will still flag the green player as a combatant
onyx knoll
you lost a good amount of your mats, so I'd say you are deff a loser xD
south silo
[Ashes 101] Jahlon Thanks!
sour swan
Hello, everyone. I would like to find out about the subscription cost in different countries. In an interview, it was said that the subscription price will be 15 or 16 dollars. For my country, this is almost 2.5 times more than a subscription to WoW. Will you consider different pricing policies for different countries or not?
frail garnet
Attack red and you stay the same no matter what
onyx knoll
@sour swan they'll adjust sub prices when it gets closer to release based on countries
tawdry forum
@simple ether I just want to say that the content you put out and the amount of detail and work you put into it is impressive. 
hexed dock
@onyx knoll Yeah, and thats what im worried about. But the fact that if you dont flag and "karma bomb" the other player to make him corrupt so that he would leave makes you lose most of the materials is hopefully something that would negate that
sour swan
Oh, that`s nice, thank you for the answer
spare scarab
Is there any incentive to become corrupted? Would love if there were a bandit faction that welcomes cprrupted players.
onyx knoll
@hexed dock The point is to encourage people to not kill someone that doesn't want to pvp, if you attack a player that is farming and he just doesn't flag back to deffend himself, then you have to make a choice, either leave them alone and find an other spot or risk the retribution fo the server 😛
@spare scarab You get a lot of loot from people you kill (raw/processed mats, not full crafted items)
frail garnet
Would the guards attack you if you go to a city that is not your own?
balmy juniper
will there be any cross server stuff? like cross server arena or br?
onyx knoll
They attack corrupted players
crystal beacon
Do you think you could collect mounts, let say this is years after the game releases do you think it'll play out like wow where hardcore players collect rare mounts?
onyx knoll
there was maybe mention of cross-server pvp BGs, but nothing else
frail garnet
Mount hand outs seems unlikly @crystal beacon
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon yes and no, mounts in this game are closer to mounts in BDO then in WoW, they have stats that differ from one mount to the other. If you go deep into the animal husbandry artisan job, you can breed animals together to make new mounts. You'll never be able to collect them all, because they'll all eb a bit different from one an other
crystal beacon
Do we know if Tulnars will be available on launch?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon they should be
slow sky
Tulnars should be available on launch
supple yarrow
@simple ether do you wanna look at a suggestion I made for a summoner ability? I value your opinion a lot 🙂
hexed dock
@onyx knoll Do you get point of corruption just from 1 kill or does it take a few kills before it takes effect?
full badger
@onyx knoll Do you get point of corruption just from 1 kill or does it take a few kills before it takes effect?
@hexed dock A single kill gives you corruption, and it stacks up
hearty sky
@hexed dock every kill give you corruption points, but that not mean you'll loose stuff at the 1st kill, we don't know yet
supple yarrow
that's fine, you've got a better idea than me regarding these things so
visual forge
will they add bodyblock? for example in sieges to be able to block the zerg to come through a door?
full badger
will they add bodyblock? for example in sieges to be able to block the zerg to come through a door?
@visual forge collision is part of the game
visual forge
noice
fading needle
Will there be any structures like a city that is not a node ?
full badger
Will there be any structures like a city that is not a node ?
@fading needle not that we know of
supple yarrow
since i use old reddit
hexed dock
@dreamy scaffold In BDO, after few kills if the player doesnt flag up you become red player. When red you have a chance to lose VERY expensive crystals + exp/at worse case gear downgrade
onyx knoll
@fading needle castle are a bit different then regular nodes https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Castle_nodes
hexed dock
But the game only punishing the player attacking and not the player who griefs, unlike in Ashes where griefing doesnt gain you anything since you also lose items as it seems
lapis sonnet
@idle siren Hey, I have a question for you if you manage to see this. It’s a question tossed around that maybe has a bit of merit for the mentality of players in general. So, you mentioned in the interview with asmongold that in order to repair worn out gear you’d need a crafter to do it for you. Can we have a little more context? So, you mentioned I’d have to give a crafter iron ore to reforge my weapon and repair it, if I use a sword does this mean I’ll need a gathering profession to get those items and have the crafters repair it for me? Do you take it to a vendor? Do you need anything specific unobtainable without the need for professions? Like my main point is are the things you need farmable and useable to do your OWN gear if you don’t find a crafter?
onyx knoll
dying is never encouraged in this game, especially as a green player.... you lose way more stuff as a green then as a purple
supple yarrow
good question silentstar
hexed dock
@dreamy scaffold Which im really happy about, maybe the game community wont be as toxic with that implementation
supple yarrow
pc is player controlled?
supple yarrow
that's very cool, i hope it works well tho
shell mason
question when we die to mobs will there be an exp penalty as well or not ?
lapis sonnet
Ya, but I mean do I need a gathering profession to get the items to interact with this vendor? @simple ether
crystal beacon
@shell mason as of now, there will be
onyx knoll
@lapis sonnet you can buy raw mats off of other players first
royal badge
im pretty sure the xp penalty is for any death
visual forge
will it be possible to have a space in the name of the character?
onyx knoll
we don't know which special characters they will allow in the names yet
crystal beacon
You can have first and last name
tiny delta
Is there going to be a roadmap released at any point?
lapis sonnet
@simple ether interesting idea, I still am not sure of the actual implementation aspect yet though as since some items will be rarer than others it may drastically affect the market of who has what and where you can get those items.
onyx knoll
there is a very vague one @tiny delta https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule I'm sure something more specific will be revealed eventually
crystal beacon
@tiny delta Roadmaps just give people a reason to complain, the closest is there release schedule
lapis shard
When you reserve a name, what does it matter though? Unless any name can literally only be used once even though there are first and surnames in the game? 🤔
fading needle
Sounds a bit hard
hasty osprey
Is there a link anyone has to the Professions in Ashes? or is no info out yet?
supple yarrow
sounds cool but i hope upkeep of my gear won't become a nuisance
tiny delta
@crystal beacon Well I'd like to know which systems I should expect in which stages, but I guess that putting in minor deadlines can lead to problems.
onyx knoll
@hasty osprey https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes
lapis sonnet
@simple ether ah so the gameplay aspect is using something that gets by but pulling out something big and meaty for certain situations like the 250v250 or the end boss of a 40 man?
hasty osprey
TY
lean jewel
any1 else feel some skepticism regarding the "fully funded by the founder" concept? He's quoted 30M for a finished product. ESO a less ambitions and meh mmorpg in comparison cost ~200m to develop. I'm wondering how theyre cutting costs so much while promising so many cutting edge systems in place?
kind crypt
oh wait it's first and last names?
lapis shard
I see hmm
supple yarrow
im not sure if i like that
lapis shard
also, name reservations are one-time use? Or can you reserve a few of them for, say 2-3 characters
supple yarrow
if i get a legendary and i can only use it once a week because i can't repair it doesn't sound too fun
lapis shard
hm makes sense
golden shoal
is the bounty system based on "commited crimes" or the lvl and gear of the hunted player?
tired sedge
Hey Jahlon is there any way I can message you privately
lapis shard
what if 2 people with name reservation allowance want the same name 
lapis sonnet
@simple ether thanks for the info now I have something to tell my mom. Also to the guy wondering bout the 30M project vs ESO Bethesda is a complete company with people on salary I’m assuming since Steven is running a team of 100 instead of a couple thousand (plus 2000+ voice actors that make up the unique aspect of ESO) he’s able to save a bit of cash
real mason
Will there be rated PVP?
lapis shard
wonder if there's a way to see which ones have been reserved already
primal solstice
@simple ether when we will get new gameplay footage? 😩 😩
crystal beacon
@lean jewel the entirety of ESO is fully voice acted which is a huge part of that development bloat
primal solstice
@simple ether godamn hyped
lapis shard
also, say I buy the 350 bucks package for access to A2, if they make it possible to rebuy A1 access, won't the 350 package have been for nothing? or would you get some sort of discount
lean jewel
@simple ether thanks for the info now I have something to tell my mom. Also to the guy wondering bout the 30M project vs ESO Bethesda is a complete company with people on salary I’m assuming since Steven is running a team of 100 instead of a couple thousand (plus 2000+ voice actors that make up the unique aspect of ESO) he’s able to save a bit of cash
@lapis sonnet right but how is a 100 person dev team gonna deliver a product that a 2000 person team cant? im just thinking about why the production is so innovative
golden shoal
@simple ether but Star wars had to pay a lot for the license
lapis sonnet
@simple ether so the guy is asking how Stephen can make a game this diverse work on 30 mill if these top notch games are pushing hundred of mill.
lapis shard
ohohoho 
crystal beacon
@real mason there will be arena sand battlegrounds with leaderboards, as well as leaderboards for bounty hunting and caravan and whatnot
lapis shard
^ shots fired
carmine socket
So is there a dominant source of information that is accessible to the public at the moment aside from interviews and footage?
Im in the process of a guide and im trying to make sure i have the ability to fact check my information.
noble elk
Is there a pic of the map in node format to show where nodes are located with current map ?
supple yarrow
passion is also more important than money 😛
primal solstice
Lol how can you earn money from the game if u spent 400m dollar
onyx knoll
@noble elk not one with exact pinpointed spots no
lapis sonnet
@lean jewel think about who Steven has too on his team. He has devs that came from blizz, Sony (who make PS4) as well as I believe a couple guys from rockstar games (GTA) it’s not like they aren’t familiar with how to run something.
lapis shard
also, @simple ether I saw that you released like a 7 hour QnA? Are you actually insane xD
I still gotta watch it over the next few days but goddamn dude
noble elk
Oh ok @onyx knoll
primal solstice
hardcore@lapis shard
lapis shard
no shit!
lapis sonnet
Wait @lapis shard 7 hours? Omg.
slow sky
@carmine socket the ashes wiki is a compilation of everything we know and cited with the discord/livestream sources for most of it as well
ivory ginkgo
Any idea for how many character slots an account will have? With all these class combinations I'd like to try quite a few of them throughout my time playing.
carmine socket
@carmine socket the ashes wiki is a compilation of everything we know and cited with the discord/livestream sources for most of it as well
@slow sky Thank you.
lapis shard
bruh slow down xD actually don't we love info
hearty sky
marketing maybe the biggest cost about SWTOR
slow sky
@ivory ginkgo “a comfortable amount” is what we know
lapis sonnet
Good to hear @simple ether glad y’all, and we, have a winner here
ivory ginkgo
thx
untold sequoia
i thought name reservation was only in the $375 package. is there a cheaper tier pre-order package that has name reservation too?
lapis shard
guess what site I'm fucking binging over the next few hrs
lapis sonnet
@simple ether if possible send me a link in my discord message about that Q and A so I can watch it before bed tonight
onyx knoll
@untold sequoia not anymore, but the kickstarter had some, a few years ago
slow sky
Steven hitting up those streamer interviews was a slick marketing tactic
lapis shard
sent
supple yarrow
thanks for your take jahlon
golden shoal
is there already sth like a lore? i mean nobody cares but i am actually a lore fanatic
untold sequoia
ahh gotcha! thanks @onyx knoll
hearty sky
btw @simple ether d'ya plan to put a french part on ashes101 ?
lapis shard
@golden shoal they're purposefully not releasing much lore to make sure they don't spoil everything before launch
lean jewel
@simple ether right but all of the SG&A costs are calculated to have a positive roi otherwise those public companies executives get slashed. I would say those may be necessary costs to successfully bring a game to market
crystal beacon
@lean jewel the amount of marketing SWTOR did is only necessary if you have a subpar product
steady ocean
@golden shoal yes, the wiki has a lot of the known lore
golden shoal
@steady ocean thx
lapis shard
not that it's a lot tho 
steady ocean
I’d rather the lore be uncovered via in game experiences than Q&A leaks 😄
hallow venture
Marketing is a useful expenditure of the LTV of the brought in users is a significant multiple of the cost of acquisition
umbral pollen
Hello, good afternoon! I've been looking at the information provided in Reddit, the site, and the FAQs. I'd like to know if there's any EA package of a cost that's below 75$
hallow venture
If*
supple yarrow
is there any lore present already? I'd like to read some if there is
steady ocean
Not at this time @umbral pollen
onyx knoll
@umbral pollen not at the moment
umbral pollen
Aw. Thanks for the answer regardless.
hollow spire
i do actually have a question, are Beast Master's going to feel more like the beast master from starwars galaxies? or is it going to be more akin to World of warcraft and other MMO's?
onyx knoll
@hollow spire we'll get more details on the full classes in alpha 2
hallow venture
Do we have an idea on A2 timeline?
hazy current
Hey guys, Im wondering if theres any version of the game available to play? i heard there was a BR version of the game? Im guessing theres nothing though.
steady ocean
Only for pre-alpha backers and soon for alpha 1 backers, no BR
lean jewel
im just curious if there will be a time in the next couple of years where the 30M seed capital will start bleeding out Steven's net worth was estimated to be 10M by mogulpedia. Not saying its accurate or anything but its not like the man has unlimited funding potential if things get delayed or require more investment than estimated, which things like this tend to do
onyx knoll
@hallow venture after A1... xD it's hard to tell atm, it'll depend on how well the alpha 1 goes, but maybe like.... 8 months from now? it's just a guess tho don't quote me on that
frail garnet
Well not yet @hazy current
hallow venture
Kk ty @onyx knoll
hazy current
@frail garnet thought so, was thinking there might of been something for testing, but its cool! thanks
frail garnet
Soon a1 will come but it is npt for everyone
crystal beacon
I don’t really think mogulpedia is reliable enough a source to be making conjectures based off of, tbh
All of Alpha and beta are NDA right?
@lean jewel and it’s a valid concern, but not one anyone here can really answer to or do anything about. If you feel strongly that way, I’d just wait til the game comes out
hearty sky
@lean jewel you have to think that a lot of people paid for packs and kickstarter and that's to add to what steven has put on it
slow sky
@crystal beacon no
frail garnet
@zane no
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon NDA is being dropped with alpha 1
onyx knoll
@hazy current There will be no NDAs during alpha 1 tho, so you can look at streamers and youtoubers and give your opinion on what you see here or on the forums!
crystal beacon
ah ok
jolly nebula
Wait they dropped the NDA for stage 1 👍
slow sky
NDA is still in effect currently, just not once we get into Alpha 1
wicked pulsar
how will this game handle sweaties ruining the game after a month or two by cartel locking nodes and everything new players or weaker players do 
jolly nebula
Wish I got in though haha can't wait to see it
Also I'm curious to see how large the 2Hs are. Hopefully not as tiny as WoW
stable plover
@jolly nebula We're currently in pre-alpha 1 which currently has an NDA, but there's no NDA when we reach actual A1
frail garnet
@wicked pulsar the couption system
wicked pulsar
but how will that stop sweaties from still running everything
"if you want to raid, farm me x"
"if you don't want me to ambush your caravan, do this or that"
onyx knoll
Players are welcome to do that, and then other guild will group up against them and destroy their nodes -shrug-
slow sky
Give in to their extortion? This game will have plenty of political intrigue and roleplay
wicked pulsar
you say that and i like the concepts of the game, but people are crappy
short coral
Sweeties run every game what do you mean lol prevent them
lapis shard
you say that and i like the concepts of the game, but people are crappy
@wicked pulsar there are also just as many people willing to lend a hand
frail garnet
People wont want to play with them and they wont be able to walk into cities @wicked pulsar
hearty sky
@wicked pulsar it's a pvp based game, if someone do that, nothing keep you from making an alliance to destroy whoever you need
frail garnet
Plus griefing is bannable
short coral
Are you sure?
onyx knoll
@wicked pulsar at most you can have 300 ppl in a guild, so a guild full of shitty people, will meet an other guild full of shitty people, and they'll clash and push back against each other
rotund trellis
When is alpha 1 supposed to drop? Fall?
slow sky
Griefing is not bannable, thats why systems like corruption exist
lapis shard
fall, yes @rotund trellis
slow sky
Fall 2020
short coral
^
wicked pulsar
I'm just concerned, I know sweaties will exist and you can't prevent them.
I'm just saying there will come a time that there will be more sweaties than good people and corruption or not, will find a way to be toxic sweats
polar anvil
greifing is that will make the game interesting. not like shit bdo
rain bear
Asking for a friend, when it comes to sieges, is there any class or other way where a player sieging a settlement can somehow get inside and sabotage the defense somehow?
lilac lotus
is there a place to post suggestions for the game?
wicked pulsar
they'll run nodes, have the people who don't care about corruption do their stuff for them, etc
can't stop it all but sounds like a lot of crappy people will become interested when/if this takes off super well
pliant ocean
@pol ally yourself with the right people. Ez Pz
frail garnet
No they cant do that guards attack courupted
golden shoal
is the prize for EU and NA the same? or will it be adjusted for EU?
lilac lotus
is this general chat area or a questions area, im new here
golden shoal
*the package price
rain bear
A questions area, Zone
jolly nebula
That's not what Pol means. Say you are a leader of a Node and you want to do underhanded actions through a Mercenary guild. Is there any prevention other than helpfully mercenary/freelance guilds to deter it
thick pendant
the leader of that node would be voted out after the fact right? for being underhanded
wicked pulsar
if I have to rely on potential good people, which will probably be the minority because this is 2020+, then my fate is screwed
wicked pulsar
onyx knoll
We'll have to wait and see how things are in alpha.
wicked pulsar
if you've ever played an mmo, guilds will find a way to have the overwhelming majority
hexed dock
It would be most likely a war node so it would be a pvp mayor so no vote
onyx knoll
If you don't think there will be enough good people to balance the shit people then just hold off on pre-ordering until you see for yourself the state of the game
jolly nebula
AoC Politics is gonna be spicy (:
lapis shard
absolute chaos, and I'm gonna love it
glossy siren
how are religions going to fully work
hexed dock
Haha, its deffinately going to be spicy
pliant ocean
Game of Ashes. Cant wait.
thick pendant
Ashes of thrones?
wicked pulsar
which I probably will do, because this is 2020+ and not the 2003-2010 era where people actually wanted to have fun and it wasn't as much of a toxic meta min/max, pvp new people world lmao.
i'm not hating, was just curious if there was any thought on those people
onyx knoll
Like Steven has said, this game will not be for everyone. If you want a peaceful game where you can gather and play without any conflict then this is deff not the one for you :/
wicked pulsar
I'm not against conflict
I'm just thinking about the toxic people driving new people away 3 months in because they have a Discord of 5000 people with multiple cartels to be a pain in the games ass for a long time
lol
hexed dock
In BDO the top pvp guilds have a one huge circle and basically dominate the siege (expecially in EU before the top guild dispanded) so Pols worries are warranted imo
wicked pulsar
and ofc, they could have infighting but if people that aren't toxic lords will be more than a meager minority, the game will be more interesting
hallow venture
Do we have any idea how post-launch content is going to be formulated? Obviously roadmap timings etc. are premature right now, but there is probably an idea of process surrounding content prioritization - have they shared?
jolly nebula
Ngl I'm sure there will be bounty hunter guilds who's sole purpose is to hunt down corrupted players. So that should help.
hearty sky
@wicked pulsar guilds'll have 300 players max cap and i think i've seen a max alliance number somewhere and you'll still be far from 5000
hearty sky
try to be ally with someone not"friendly" on a battlefield, it should be fun
wicked pulsar
and then you can have 4 alliances who will be an overwhelming majority, they'll just have a 'do not kill' or 'friendly' list
frozen tartan
@hearty sky alliance will be with up to 4 other guilds.. so max 5 guilds of max 300 players = 1500 players
hearty sky
if i can have 4, what keep you to have 4 too ?
wicked pulsar
but... they can still run everything
hexed dock
It doesnt even need 4 alliances. Just 1 alliance with top pvp players who are very active @wicked pulsar
wicked pulsar
we'll see how it goes
I hope you're right in that it'll be handled but
handled by game mechanic limits, but they always find a way lol
hexed dock
cuz in mmo's gear still matters and with skills and gear to match it, it would be very difficult to beat them
fringe summit
Hey those 2 months of subscription that come with the game those won’t be used during the beta right? They would be used on launch?
plucky pawn
@fringe summit correct!
onyx knoll
@fringe summit they'll start at launch
fringe summit
Ok noice
hearty sky
i think it shouldn't be handled, it player driven game, it need to have some space or it can't work i think
wicked pulsar
well, we'll see how well these systems work
crisp holly
At the minimum, you can also make a new toon on another server to play with other people right?
wicked pulsar
I'm just having a worry about those players, because they ruin games for a lot of people
hexed dock
Im still very hyped and i would think if something like that were to happen, devs would work on a fix
tulip hatch
Please remember to keep this channel to Questions and Answers folks
If a question becomes a discussion please take it to the appropriate channels!
Thank you
thick lagoon
i have more of an account question. i've been away for quite a while. i see i can still update my kickstarter packages. is there a timeline how long that'll be an option?
slow sky
Yes you can and theres been no announcements regarding that feature going away
stable plover
@thick lagoon KS updates are still available, they'll close eventually with at least 30 days notice.
glossy siren
so hunter certificates, how far do you have to go to get the most out of them
dark jungle
the further the better
thick lagoon
ok, thanks.
slow sky
Depends on the economy and whats there in others
glossy siren
and also animal husbandry sorry for bad spelling but can i selectivly breed to get a good mount
dark jungle
yes @glossy siren
glossy siren
nice
dark jungle
you can mix tamed animals in your stables to create new and unique mount breeds
lapis shard
and pets?
dark jungle
yes
lapis shard
glossy siren
and also a while back i asked about taverans and food can i selectily breed animals for a inn keeper to make better food
or will all food be the same
dark jungle
not sure about that one
glossy siren
k
heady valve
are there dragons we can have as mounts? I am curious. I know there are gonna be ones we can fight and the animal taming thing is in there but curious is all.???
dark jungle
yes @heady valve they are called royal mounts
lapis shard
they're extremely rare
glossy siren
only a select few can have them
mayors, guild leaders and raid leaders if i remember right
dark jungle
lapis shard
or a very rare drop from world bosses
onyx knoll
- a few VERY lucky people who will get eggs from legendary bosses
lapis shard
and you need someone with mastery in animal husbandry to take proper care of the egg before it hatches
glossy siren
about that codex so if i get a dragon from a world boss can i use it if i am a commoner
onyx knoll
yes, for a limited time
hexed dock
Depending on the animal huspandry the lifespan (time to use the pet) will increase from 15 - 30 days
glossy siren
oh
heady valve
is that just the egg ones though
lapis shard
if you know someone with mastery in animal husbandry, yes. royal mounts typically have a 15-30 day life expectancy
so it's time limited
glossy siren
that sucks they are royal you think they life longer
lapis shard
only royal mounts have life expectancies
onyx knoll
The ones for mayors of metropolis or king/queen of castles, they can use as long as they hold that position
lapis shard
all other mounts don't expire
hexed dock
Yeah, only the flying ones
onyx knoll
it's BECAUSE they are royal that they don't last long 😛
they can fly AND they have pvp abilities
lapis shard
it's to keep them extremely rare
onyx knoll
those mounts are STRONG
lapis shard
^^yup
glossy siren
so there is a teir 2 mounts right
onyx knoll
yeah tier 2s can glide
glossy siren
they can glide and stuff do they have a life time
lapis shard
only tier 3 (royal) expire
glossy siren
so can i have a hybrid can i have a glide and water mount
onyx knoll
@simple ether in depth animal husbandry Q&A with Steven, when? 😛
glossy siren
damn that sucks
heady valve
anything that resemlbe a pheonix?
hexed dock
It would be weird to breed a fish and a bird
onyx knoll
@heady valve
glossy siren
well it would be a turtle with a gliding lizard
heady valve
woh is the a griffon?
onyx knoll
yeah it's one of the gryphon appearance they've revealed so far
not a true pheonix but pretty close imo 😄
glossy siren
is there a ice one
slow sky
There is a Phoenix pet that were in the kickstarter packs
onyx knoll
kinda,
heady valve
like the one at the end of guitar hero?
glossy siren
haha
heady valve
thats one of my favorate myth animals
glossy siren
phionex or griffen
heady valve
well both
glossy siren
cause i am going to say dragon or ATLA lion turtle
onyx knoll
Ok guys, this is no longer a question
lapis shard
don't forget to keep this chat for questions guys c: you can discuss things further in #aoc-discussion
glossy siren
sorry
onyx knoll
^^
lapis shard
xD
glossy siren
wait are there any big creatures outside of world bosses
lapis shard
well, raid bosses and such
glossy siren
another guestion for you does race matter to much i know like cosmetic wise but gameplay wise does it
onyx knoll
races will have special abilities and/or stats but we doN,t know what they are and the impact they will have yet
crystal beacon
Steven has said they won’t make a huge difference but they will have different base stats and racial augments so the min max type might care
lapis shard
I believe there's racial augments, and your racial contribution to nodes decide what the nodes will look like
frail garnet
Yes
lapis shard
if an orc race provides the most exp to a node it will have orcish architecture
frail garnet
Lile alot of sliders
onyx knoll
You'll also have a unique racial mount, but we don't know what they'll be like
lapis shard
there's aloooot of class and race combinations to test out lmao. 64 classes across 9 races
tawdry forum
Will the world map show current nodes types and stages? I imagine it won't show unless fog of war has been uncovered?
forest pike
The seasonal cycle effects the whole map or certain nodes?
merry raven
Hey guys, sorry if i'm asking a stupid question. Are we on Alpha 1 or Alpha 2 phase now?
forest pike
1
forest pike
Higher KS packs already testing a1
neon lantern
has there been any indication of the game release?
lapis shard
ohh right, phoenix initiative?
forest pike
Ye
tough sierra
@neon lantern 2-3 years
lapis shard
aight, disregard xD
merry raven
Thank you for the answers!
west turtle
Is there gonna be a wipe before release? Considering a1 and a2
neon lantern
@tough sierra jesus, thanks.
lapis shard
yes
tough sierra
progression from test servers will not carry over @west turtle
west turtle
👍
stable plover
@west turtle A2 becomes the test server, characters/server progress like nodes developing don't carry over to the live game
keen path
There will be a headstart for 1 and 2 days for first kickstarter supporters. Besides that every1 starts at the same day.
stable plover
(There's 1 headstart server per region -> most aren't)
forest pike
Head start servers won't have the node system enabled
jolly nebula
Oh I actually don't like the head start idea for live ngl but atleast it's only 1 server
tired sedge
@keen path I’m pretty sure that the head start is only on a few servers they will have fresh never played servers on launch day
lapis shard
@jolly nebula they spent big bucks, I personally don't mind
west turtle
Understandable for kickstarters
lapis shard
I'm sorry?
jolly nebula
Meh if I knew about it at the start I would've dropped more than 375 but even then I'm someone who hates early starts for specific people
neon perch
What do you think, will there be another kickstarter?
lapis shard
I don't stream anymore, sorry
keen path
No the kickstarter was 3 years ago.
chilly mountain
🤦
keen path
Keep it to questions please, we are in the #questions channel.
cinder shadow
so the characters we make during the alpha/beta won't retain any xp or loot they receive but will essentially start out at level one on the official release date? and obviously anything included with any preorders/kickstarter packages will be retained. is that right?
keen path
@cinder shadow Alpha and Beta are to test the game yes. The live version will be from the start again.
jolly nebula
Do we have any idea what some of the weapons look like currently? I'd love to see if the 2hs are bigger than WoWs little broadswords (:
cinder shadow
ok. if we had a character with a name reservation and it was used in the alpha/beta will we retain the same name on the official release date?
tired sedge
So if you went cleric and your took fighter as your second class are you now a melee healer ?
keen path
I'm not sure how they going to work with name reservations. I just know that those who paid the most get to choose first etc.
forest pike
Don't worry fancy pants would be available I'm sure
cinder shadow
that's fair i suppose
lapis shard
@tired sedge you'd become a templar
cinder shadow
lol i already have the account made, but i have a tendency of sticking to specific character names in mmo's
main mason
what about seasonal events? Christmas etc. Will they be experienced different in each server or will they try to make it a more generalized experience?
tired sedge
@lapis shard correct I would be a Templar but do we have any idea of how the Templar will play is it mostly a healer or melee or 50-50
remote lake
Any idea when A2 is gonna be released? I bought the expensive preorder thinking I was ognna gte to play A1. I dont read too well lol
nimble tartan
whats the average support ticket answer time?
jolly nebula
Oh that's another thing the season.
Some of us believe the weekly seasonal change is way to fast. Any plans to tweek it? To test maybe every 2/3 weeks atleast?
keen path
@remote lake Is unknown yet, they stopped selling alpha 1 acces in 2k18.
lapis shard
@tired sedge the second class will not give you any new skills, it will only enhance your first class skills in specific ways
forest pike
@nimble tartan within the same day from my experience
nimble tartan
oh okay,thanks
should i poke them a bit if my ticket hasnt been replied to in 6 days? xd
forest pike
Probably, I would
lapis shard
@tired sedge so for templar it would (probably) be something like skills that heal but also do idk maybe a dot effect on mobs?
tired sedge
@lapis shard yeah that’s what I was thinking it’s killing me not play testing all 64 classes so I can see what they feel like
lapis shard
we don't have specific info on that yet
you can change your secondary but not your primary class through a quest so you can test out several ones on 1 character
given enough time ofc
real dock
Anybody have ideas or concepts to what the Falconer class is going to be?
tired sedge
@lapis shard I’m going to play alpha 2 I would buy alpha 1 if they would sell it again I wonder if they will have it where we can play the characters at level 25-50
lost sorrel
Is there a way to upgrade your preorder pack?
lapis shard
@tired sedge secondary classes will be available in a2
golden shoal
will this game be as grind based as BDO?
tired sedge
@lapis shard do we know what is the focus of a1
lapis shard
bugs bugs bugs I'd assume
valid raven
i just heard about this game, how can i play it?
lapis shard
hehe idk honestly but I'll also be getting access to a1 if they'd make it available to purchase again
pliant ocean
Bugs and extensive primary class testing I would assume.
cinder shadow
how extensive is the shipbuilding aspect of the game? is it something that can be considered a trade skill where you buy resources and construct a ship to put up for sail (pun intended) on a global market or is it more akin to you build it for yourself? i know there will be ships used for raids and at sea battles but i wnat to know more about the economics of shipbuilding in the game.
main mason
class and combat
hasty moss
@real dock we dont have specifics yet on classes
remote lake
@valid raven Unfortunately you cant play yet. But you can pre order ot get into the Alpha 2 when it comes out
hasty moss
@lost sorrel yes you can upgrade your preorder pack
valid raven
oh got it, thank you
main mason
they already said the region playable will be limited so I think it wil be less about the nodes and environment and more about how the player feels the game
lapis shard
@cinder shadow ship building will allow you to make ship upgrades. everyone can build ships technically but only people with the artisan skill can make upgrades
hasty moss
@golden shoal they plan on making leveling take a while, super rough estimate is 45 days, that is all we really know about how much of a grind it will be
lapis shard
45 days, if you play 4-6 hours a day
hasty moss
@valid raven you can buy into alpha 2 currently
tired sedge
It’s around 270 hours of play
lapis shard
definitely more towards the hardcore side ( )
scenic agate
How do you buy into the Alpha?
drowsy plaza
Can we ask for a Spanish voice chat? or at least a text chat?
lapis shard
@scenic agate you can buy packs in the shop to gain access to a2
main mason
its gonna be a grind but its good wil give you ample time to get into the politics of your region adn stuff, people WILL need to socialize this is not a SOLO playable game if you want to succed
hasty moss
@cinder shadow ship building will be a trade skill in the sense that there are multiple separate parts people will need to buy in order to make their ship, the ship building profession will be the one providing these parts
pliant ocean
@scenic agate The earliest (currently) is A2 which is in the Ashes Shop pre-order packs.
scenic agate
@lapis shard Any of the cosmetic packs?
tired sedge
If you get level 50 the leveling just really starts bc there is so many things you can level to change your character
rain bear
Can we ask for a Spanish voice chat? or at least a text chat?
@drowsy plaza others have asked, mods responded with “only officially supported languages are available in the discord at this time” or something
lapis shard
@scenic agate yup, they also contain game time, alpha2 access and shop currency so they're really good deals