@marsh panther actually for a metropolis, if you go to the wiki it says that you would need many weeks to get them, not months https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_advancement
#questions
rocky bear
fading latch
@undone prairie we havent had any indication as of yet for a feature like that
stable plover
@undone prairie They've specifically mentioned they don't want to have a class trial system.
ivory latch
i really want to see the necromancer and summoner-summoner abilites 😍
wet escarp
will most classes have many counterparts?
rocky bear
@ivory latch same ☺️
onyx knoll
what do you mean, counterparts?
marsh panther
I want to see how strong guardian is
onyx knoll
like other classes that fill the same role?
wet escarp
and are there certain classes that dominate much better in 1v1 combat compared to largescale
onyx knoll
the game is not balanced around 1v1
so there will probably be some that will end up being stronger in 1v1s
crystal beacon
For the pre order packs, does it mean that I can get follow on months of pre order content that is released?
fading latch
@wet escarp we dont have that info yet
crystal beacon
like a mix and match
onyx knoll
we'll have to wait until at least alpha 2 to get an idea of what each class will be like, we're not gona be getting the full classes until then
fading latch
@crystal beacon once you have a pack you can purchase cosmetics that are released thereafter based on your tier of pack
wet escarp
i understand
stable plover
@wet escarp 'Archetypes' won't all have other archetypes that fill the same roll (tanks are main tanks, clerics are main heals, bards are support) but 'classes' would - aka a tank/ranger and tank/rogue are different flavors/mechanics of tanking
rocky bear
at alpha 1 we would see the 8 main classes but not the full archetypes
marsh panther
@crystal beacon what season is that from. The pic of bamm
wet escarp
@regal wadi thanks for the input
surreal zodiac
Can bards be those annoying ones from Assassin's Creed 2?
wet escarp
take these two classes for instance, id assume they are very strong in 1v1, but lack AoE skills for large scale pvp
undone ember
@marsh panther 3rd
onyx knoll
that's probably a safe assumption, but that discussion would be better taken to #aoc-discussion 🙂
wet escarp
but we still cant tell
marsh panther
@undone ember oh ok I'm on the 1st ep of the 3rd. Ibdont want to read anymore. I'm reading to fast
wet escarp
so ill just have to wait and see
hasty osprey
Will there be a way to get a Nature style healer (like a druid) from the Cleric line?
undone ember
I know the feel man :D
stable plover
@hasty osprey cleric/ranger is probably the closest, but we don't have details on it
onyx knoll
cleric/ranger maybe? but again, we'll know closer to alpha 2
crystal beacon
I believe about 100 chapters ago. @marsh panther
wet escarp
shaman?
winter girder
Do we know if agility/evasion tanking is gonna be possible/viable? It was my favorite thing to do whenever it was viable in WoW.
onyx knoll
they did mention an evade tank playstyle
void belfry
considering buying the $375 founders pack. Quick questions: when will i be able to reserve name? Has that already happened? Will i get all cosmetic pre-order items? confused by this statement "In order to own a Pre-Order Pack's cosmetics, you must either purchase the Pre-Order Pack during the month that the cosmetic is featured or have purchased that level pack or higher in a previous month in order to buy the cosmetic as an add-on. "
stable plover
Possible? yes, Meta? who knows
hard granite
Long live dodge based monks @winter girder
wet escarp
I sincerely hope half the playerbase dont jump onto the meta wagon
onyx knoll
@void belfry If you buy the 375$ pack you'll be able to reserve a name, I doN't think it's happened yet. The statement means that any future cosmetic pack that gets released you can buy at a discount for just the cosmetics (they rotate every month or so)
wet escarp
Just like wow and demonhunters
grand lily
is that any info about API ou something like that for addons and dps metter?
rocky bear
the cosmetics on the pre-order packs change every month
steady ocean
@void belfry you can only buy individual cosmetic items if you have bought a package at that tier or lower. Voyager plus unlocks all tiers so if you buy it all future tiers at the highest level you could simply pay for the cosmetics and nothing else
whole dawn
@grand lily no API or addons
void belfry
are the cosmetics going to be purchasable once the game launches or are they exclusive to pre-order?
zinc tundra
Do we have any concept art on the races, classes etc?
grand lily
@grand lily no API or addons
@whole dawn wow, no dps metter?
fiery atlas
Will the game only be in English? or how many or what languages will it have?
rocky bear
exclusive i think
crystal beacon
Season 2 begining i mean @marsh panther
wet escarp
@void belfry exclusive
grand lily
crazy to think about this
steady ocean
Exclusive to the time they are in the store
onyx knoll
If you don't like the current cospetics you can wait until the 5th when the next one is released
stable plover
@void belfry Server name reservations haven't happened yet -> last estimate was sometime after A1 starts but before A2 - You'd get all the cosmetics shown, new cosmetics rotate into the store monthly, and can be purchased individually for 5-25$ once you own the pack they come from, cosmetics are only available to purchase during that month.
whole dawn
@grand lily no dps meter, it makes it too easy to meta game
void belfry
is there any way that i can buy past cosmetics that have been sold?
rocky bear
@fiery atlas at the moment english, french, german and russian
void belfry
just getting into game now
steady ocean
No
onyx knoll
@void belfry no
fading latch
@void belfry no
tidal nexus
Has anyone been able to preorder any pack the last day or two ?
void belfry
rip
onyx knoll
I haven't tried Blue
fading latch
@tidal nexus if you are having an issue, reach out to toast for support
timid ledge
When is the next testing phase, and what package do I need to buy, in order to try out the game in its current state?
steady ocean
Late fall for Alpha 1
crystal beacon
Alpha 1, unavailable
stable plover
@tidal nexus Are you getting an xsolla error or something else?
worthy scarab
I get an error
tidal nexus
My shit just hangs up..Ive tried 2 computers and my phone. and who is toast ? @fading latch
crystal beacon
You can buy into alpha 2
worthy scarab
I opened a ticket
fading latch
Alpha 1 is the next phase and you cannot buy into it. Earliest pack now is for Alpha 2@timid ledge
timid ledge
How much is A2 and when can I expect it?
tidal nexus
thats what I get as well @worthy scarab just making sure it wasnt me
crystal beacon
No date, 250
wet escarp
items bought from the shop cant be sold in the market correct?
fading latch
Correct
onyx knoll
@timid ledge the next phase is alpha 1, which starts in Fall. You can't buy into it anymore unless they open it back up later. You can get alpha 2 with the 250$ pack on the website, or into the beta with the cheaper ones https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
wet escarp
Nice
timid ledge
Alright, fair enough. If I'm not a fan of the current voyage packages cosmetic skins, can I wait till later for another rotation?
tidal nexus
@stable plover look at the screen shot just under your last comment..thats the error i get as well
viral steppe
I know there will be an in game voice chat, but will there be a proximity chat aswell?
wet escarp
damn i really want a name reservation but 375 is the only way
void belfry
when you say they rotate does that mean some will come back?
onyx knoll
we don't know for sure, but probably not
orchid jacinth
no pack will not come back
onyx knoll
I'd be VERY surprised if they brought any back
fading latch
@wet escarp unless ur name is common, u can always wait for when registered players can reserve
wet escarp
I hope not
whole dawn
@wet escarp dont feel too pressured, names are based on server, you might choose a server that you might not want to play on in the future
wet escarp
oh yeah i totally forgot
fading latch
Registered accounts have a chance to reserve names also
wet escarp
thanks guys
fading latch
They are just last in the order
worthy scarab
How long does a name have to be?
whole dawn
3 or more letters
onyx knoll
minimum is 3 character
worthy scarab
Thanks
wet escarp
its usually max 16 characters
charred nebula
if i get the 375 $ for name reservation , but the name taken what happens then (can we check if the name is free for reserv ) ?
onyx knoll
no clue how they'll be going about it
wet escarp
u can try another server
whole dawn
@charred nebula names are unique per each server
woeful violet
Watching the most recent Q&A, someone brought up the question of rogues being able to find secret doors in dungeons. Are there any other known utility skills for the other classes?
whole dawn
for name reservation, wait until you know which server you want to play on
@woeful violet rangers have witcher sense, can see footprints
onyx knoll
@woeful violet each class has 1 ability that lets them interact with the environment
Mages can see hidden doors, clerics can clear passages of fog/poison clouds, rangers can see hidden footprints, tanks can see traps etc
wet escarp
it only goes for primary classes right?
karmic wave
yup
sterile gust
That's kickass @onyx knoll
onyx knoll
yeah, each primary archetype, sorry
orchid jacinth
rogues can see hidden doors, not mages
onyx knoll
it really is, i love the concept of it
sterile gust
I had wondered what the other utility spells were
whole dawn
dang tank ability doesnt seem as good
wet escarp
traps are gonna be huge i believe
onyx knoll
@orchid jacinth
karmic wave
yeah, and rogues can unlock additional loot as well, apparently. Steven mentioned that rogues will be valuable in a dungeoneering party, but that it's good to diversify your team
stable plover
@charred nebula Note that there's an order to the name reservations (basically anyone who bought a package with name reservation goes before the current ones being sold), I'd in general recommend the name reservation as a nice perk and not a major decision on why to buy - The name reservations are only for one server, so hopefully you'd be able to get your desired name on at least 1 particular server.
sterile gust
I'm interested in other examples of the augmentation system related to secondary classes. Steven always mentions the charge/teleport example for tanks.
Does anyone know of any?
wet escarp
Exactly, usually rogues are being left out in raids
crystal drum
Good afternoon from Argentina.
I got some questions that I will try to put all in the same message.
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Are we going to be able to add mods into the game, for example mods that warn you about sertain boss mechanics that are going to happen, or mods that tell you "DON'T STAND IN THE STUPID, STUPID!" (I am a healer, you know my strugle with mages that don't want their DPS to go down so they keep channeling when standing on the fire).
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Like I said, I am from Argentina and we have a big problem with lazy devs, don't want to call out any names but lets adress one for the example with a code name, we'll call it "Snow Storm". For the longest time this Snow Storm Studio made a Server for us people of South America but (big but) made us share servers with Brasil. Brasil Speaks Portugese. Rest of the countries in our region speak Spanish. In the end the server ends up being spoken in a broken a$$ english which is pretty annoying. Are we going to share servers with Brasil or Brasil will have their own private server? (Sory for long explanation but like Steve said yesterday on the AMA, I need to lay the foundation before giving my answer/question).
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If we do get a Spanish speaking server. Will we have 2? Meaning, Latinoamerica South for, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay and Bolivia. And Latinoamerica North for the rest?
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In south america we've all grew up playing Tibia, which had a similar PK mechanic with droping items and exp.
If you go purple status, how much time will you be on purple status.
If you go red status how much time do you stay in red, and if you are in fact red, when your corruption levels start to drop, will you go back from red to purple to green or will you go from red to green? -
Could you rethink the mechanic of being red w/ high corruption making you weaker on BGs and Arenas? People are not liking that.
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How about proximity open voice chat during instances? That could be cool and super immersive.
Thank you for your time.
onyx knoll
they haven't revealed a lot @sterile gust we'll know more during alpha 2 when they release the full secondaries
stable plover
@onyx knoll From Stevens interview it sounds like that changed to the rogue
orchid jacinth
@onyx knoll Guess there's more to hidden doors type cuz steven mentioned this like a mont ago that the rogues can find secret doors and treasures aswell
sterile gust
Got it, thanks @onyx knoll .
rare geyser
does your race affect anything tangible or is it just cosmetic?
crystal beacon
Will there be a way to not loose anything stored in your house when loosing a city or getting a downgrade? Like a global bank or something?
inland totem
from the wiki "Rogues will have utility skills that enable them to discover hidden doors, traps and additional treasures.[
whole dawn
in one of the first videos of AoC, it shows a mage breaking a boulder that was blocking a path
wet escarp
Im assuming rogues can see a secret passage, like a terrain of stone on a wall. Rogues can see an outline(blue) on the stones to interact with. (my perspective)
inland totem
but the earlier statement kinda supercedes that
whole dawn
i imagine its like that
forest pike
@whole dawn it's just a concept video don't take it as game design
orchid jacinth
@crystal drum corruption have no place in bgs and arenas
onyx knoll
@crystal drum Oh boy, ok...
- no mods
- there might be a spanish translation/server if there is enough interest, it's not confirm either way
- see above
- You can toggle purple on and off, they're saying there will be a timer so you can't instantly switch in between but we doN't have a specific time for it yet, they're testing it. You go red until you pay off your accumulated dept, your corruption drops by either you dying or you killing mobs that grant you xp
- I doN,t think corruption affects arena and BG?
- there is voice chat for groups, nothing on proximity chat yet tho
crystal beacon
Is there a rarity or quality in items, for example like in wow we got rare epic and legendary items
@crystal drum in the future, probably better to make something of that size a forum post or go one at a time.
- No add ons.
2-3. We only have NA/EU/OCE/SEA server confirmations.
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We don’t have exact timer for combatant flag, corrupt lasts until you work off the corruption via killing mobs.
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You likely won’t be able to get into Arenas with corruption.
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Proximity chat not currently planned.
wet escarp
@simple ether Hi, im watching your Q&A with steven right now 😛
forest pike
- Or dying
onyx knoll
ohhhh! nice!
crystal beacon
Like, heard out of group? News to me, and exciting
onyx knoll
Proximity in open world would be nice, so I can tell someone trying to gank me that I'll pay them to leave me alone! lolll
crystal beacon
(If not potential toxic in the best way)
grim hinge
I'm not 100% convinced Jahlon isn't some kind of sophisticated AI designed to answer questions about AoC given he's literally always here answering questions
onyx knoll
LOL
lavish tendon
@crystal drum Oh boy, ok...
- no mods
- there might be a spanish translation/server if there is enough interest, it's not confirm either way
- see above
- You can toggle purple on and off, they're saying there will be a timer so you can't instantly switch in between but we doN't have a specific time for it yet, they're testing it. You go red until you pay off your accumulated dept, your corruption drops by either you dying or you killing mobs that grant you xp
- I doN,t think corruption affects arena and BG?
- there is voice chat for groups, nothing on proximity chat yet tho
@onyx knoll 4) from I understand its not about toggling status but a hostility, a lot is taken form L2 in that manner, so what you turn on I imagine is "Force Attack" state which allows you to attack other players and once you attack them you're flagged for a period of time, I believe it was something around 60 seconds from the last hostile action taken in L2.
sage dagger
voice chats lets people be toxic and get away with it
stable plover
@crystal drum 1. No addons/mods/external game enhancing programs/macros allowed
2. neither Argentinia nor Brazil have servers announced yet - The forums are a good place to leave feedback on definately wanting separate servers, EU servers intend to have assigned languages, (but not locked), so you might want to request that as well.
3. Plans haven't been announced
4. purple is something like 5-10 min once your trying to stop being purple, red goes to purple
5. That's a good bit of feedback for forums and seems perfectly reasonable - it's already been changed that red players won't be dampened in all situations (when bounty hunters attack them) so seems like a change they'd be developing the tech to track anyways
6. They do intend to have proximity voice chat available
hasty osprey
Question: how do you pronounce Py'Rai .. is it Pie-Ray?
forest pike
@simple ether did you reach the point of dreaming about ashes or not yet?
junior pagoda
Is summoner mainly about summoning objects and pets, or is there also a transformation(of self) component to it?
stable plover
@hasty osprey I go Pie-Rye as in the bread, but I'm not sure it's correct
crystal beacon
Will there be a way to not loose stored items in your house when loosing a city or getting a downgrade? Like a global bank or something which can be a safeplace?
orchid jacinth
i hope proximity voice chat can be toggled off
devout hatch
do you think there will be ingame voice chat?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon You'll never lose completed items like gear, potions, food. You could spread your gatherables/materials to multiple storage if you own more then 1 house
crystal beacon
@devout hatch confirmed
onyx knoll
Yes there is in game VC
formal ravine
hey guys, another combat question...i'm sorry it's the only system i ask questions about in the discord but IMO its the most important part of the game. I've looked at the wiki and have seen the line saying currently there are no plans for animation cancelling. this has me worried a little bit as locking yourself into a slow cast can sometimes be the difference between a smooth, free-flowing, interactive combat system and a clunky not fun one. does anyone here know if animation cancelling is up for debate and, if not, some sort of "stopcasting" element maybe being a part of the combat system?
wet escarp
@crystal beacon Im sure you get all your household items back and ready to be placed once you get a new house in another city
stable plover
@crystal beacon There will be an account inventory, your recoverable stuff from house has been described as being mailed to you (even though attachments aren't normally mailed)
devout hatch
@onyx knoll you will loose gear if you are corrupted
onyx knoll
Well yeah but we're talking about destroyed houses
rare geyser
hey guys, another combat question...i'm sorry it's the only system i ask questions about in the discord but IMO its the most important part of the game. I've looked at the wiki and have seen the line saying currently there are no plans for animation cancelling. this has me worried a little bit as locking yourself into a slow cast can sometimes be the difference between a smooth, free-flowing, interactive combat system and a clunky not fun one. does anyone here know if animation cancelling is up for debate and, if not, some sort of "stopcasting" element maybe being a part of the combat system?
@formal ravine this
devout hatch
oh, sry
charred nebula
what is the cap for a Guild ? for example lvl 1 - 40 ppl / lvl 2 - 80
full badger
what is the cap for a Guild ? for example lvl 1 - 40 ppl / lvl 2 - 80
@charred nebula 300 characters
onyx knoll
@formal ravine The combat is still being tweaked and subject to a lot of changes
rocky bear
the guilds have skill points
stable plover
@formal ravine They don't mean not allowing you to cancel spells at all, they mean not needing you to sheath your weapon mid cast to start the next spell faster
rocky bear
you can invest them on member capacity or buffs for example
crystal beacon
Is there a rarity or quality in items, for example like in wow we got rare epic and legendary items
rare geyser
so will it be possible to animation cancel?
formal ravine
@stable plover ah so when they mention no animation cancelling on wiki they mean clipping ur animations to cast faster etc
?
crystal beacon
Alr great to hear
solemn finch
Aight, in every game i play, i like to play poison classes. Singed in league, Viper in valorant, Caustic in apex, Fire/poison mage in maplestory etc. Do yall think there will be a class centered around poisons ?
stable plover
@crystal beacon Yes, there's also multiple qualities within rarities (tiers/over enchanting level)
rocky bear
@solemn finch i think so ;P
charred nebula
in L2 there is mechanic you need to fish ( get quest items ) to expand the inventory by quest , any one know something about this
rocky bear
but we dont know
calm cairn
hope the animation combat system will be similar to wow, even this combat system is not perfect is the one I enjoy the most.
crystal beacon
Wouldn’t that be too rng heavy ?
stable plover
@formal ravine correct, for example in the BR you could start aiming/charging your bow but stop without shooting
devout hatch
@calm cairn it is gonna be as far as i know
rare geyser
NICE
calm cairn
@calm cairn it is gonna be as far as i know
@devout hatch glad to hear 🙂
devout hatch
😉
inland totem
@solemn finch "The idea behind magic is you're manipulating the elements. They don't just have to be fire, ice, water and air. They can be darkness, they can be light, they can be planar; a lot of different types of "elemental influences"..." from the wiki.
crystal beacon
Ohhh man what if the item requires luck to create them with good stats and good quality
onyx knoll
@calm cairn There will be a lot more action combat then WoW, which is almost purely tab target. Some skills will auto-aim but the hard CC ones for exemple will require you to actually aim a skill shot
formal ravine
@calm cairn wow's combat system has kept the game on top for a long time i agree...although wow is a hybrid system and it has been well reported that its majority tab system is "outdated" (even summit seems to believe full action combat is the future) i think the smoothness of the wow combat system has really helped with its longevity. i think the devs understand this with their design (hybrid), but beyond the basics of tab vs action, it's the interactiveness between everyone involved in wow's combat that make it so smooth
wet escarp
@stable plover I know that the BR is used to gear up champions to fight with to balance things out. Is this the same in arenas? 1v1 arenas to be specific.
stable plover
@crystal beacon Making a piece of gear won't give RNG stats, but identical pieces of gear can be combined to get something stronger, with chance of destroying it instead
supple finch
Any ideas about the subscription cost?
onyx knoll
15$ per month
rare geyser
@crystal beacon Making a piece of gear won't give RNG stats, but identical pieces of gear can be combined to get something stronger, with chance of destroying it instead
@stable plover will the chances increase the higher skill the craftsman is?
supple finch
And are there different subscription tiers
stable plover
@wet escarp seems like the answer is no, sort of exception the military node arena that involves gearing out a 'champion' to fight for mayor, but that's gearing your champion through quests and stuff, not mid match
fringe light
Question, I'm planning on going into computer science and specifically software engineering, wondering what the protocol would be for hiring, how I can go about submitting an application, etc.
onyx knoll
stable plover
@supple finch There's not like a 'premium subscription' tier - The game doesn't have a base box/dlc/expansion costs, 15$ month sub (for US servers), and a cosmetic only cash shop
wet escarp
@stable plover Yeah exactly, thanks for answering.
calm cairn
@calm cairn There will be a lot more action combat then WoW, which is almost purely tab target. Some skills will auto-aim but the hard CC ones for exemple will require you to actually aim a skill shot
@onyx knoll
@calm cairn wow's combat system has kept the game on top for a long time i agree...although wow is a hybrid system and it has been well reported that its majority tab system is "outdated" (even summit seems to believe full action combat is the future) i think the smoothness of the wow combat system has really helped with its longevity. i think the devs understand this with their design (hybrid), but beyond the basics of tab vs action, it's the interactiveness between everyone involved in wow's combat that make it so smooth
@formal ravine is what I say, wow combat system is super fluid and very competitive. I like that the characters have weight, mass, move smoothly as well as the timing of their spells. I know that it is an outdated system and that it can be perfectly improved, and I hope that it will be taken into account in the combat development of this game.
supple finch
Are there going to be roleplay servers?
onyx knoll
no
crystal drum
@crystal drum in the future, probably better to make something of that size a forum post or go one at a time.
@crystal beacon I am sory for that, I always found Whatsapp/LINE type of posting (press enter instead of "." or ",") chaotic. But I'll stick to your rules.
onyx knoll
all servers are PvX, there might be an unofficial RP server picked by the community
rocky bear
all are pvp servers
crystal beacon
@crystal drum not at all rules, just a suggestion to make answer’s lives easier 😛
supple finch
Will there be more than one server per geological region? If so, how will communicating or grouping with someone from another server work? (In WoW there's server shards for example) For instance, if I discover my co-worker plays AoC but isn't on my server, what would we do?
onyx knoll
no server transfers, and each server is independant since they all grow and change differently. You'd need to make a new character on their server or them on yours
lean current
@supple finch You might be forced to start another character on the other server. Servers are mostly closed, except some cross server play like pvp tournaments
crystal drum
@crystal drum not at all rules, just a suggestion to make answer’s lives easier 😛
@crystal beacon Didn't know there was a forum though! I would've done that. Since all devs nowdays eliminated the forums for discord servers. I thought Forums passed to be relics of our age. So Sory.
crystal beacon
@crystal drum no worries! As you can see, all answered anyway. But the forums on the main website are alive and well.
crystal drum
This is a general discution topyc so I won't keep annoying everyone in the wrong thread. Thak you for your reply.
calm cairn
there will be pvp rewards? like armor?
late roost
which races will be enemies to each other? like for pvp purpose? or are they all enemies to each other? i just remember the WoW system of horde and alliance, how is it in AOC?
charred nebula
i dont think there will be facation base enemys
hardy pewter
there are no factions
steady ocean
@late roost seasonal awards for pvp performance have been discussed in the form of gear augments, achievements and titles
hardy pewter
there may be racial lore that has enmity, though
crystal drum
which races will be enemies to each other? like for pvp purpose? or are they all enemies to each other? i just remember the WoW system of horde and alliance, how is it in AOC?
@late roost It is not a faction base game. You will be enemies and friends of everyone. And you can open pk with anyone
late roost
so i could be enemy with everyone even my own race? sounds interesting!
wet escarp
is a player able to tell when another player is corrupted?
crystal drum
so i could be enemy with everyone even my own race? sounds interesting!
@late roost Well yes, in our world there are good and bad humans. Same here.
wet escarp
oh okay
late roost
thx for the answers guys!
wet escarp
there is no corruption cap
slow sky
we dont know much about the system besides the more you accumulate the weaker your character gets and the higher the potential to drop gear on death
charred nebula
i think you can remove the Coruption (karma ) by killing mobs (gain exp)
crystal drum
Will the corruption "deepness" will be correlated with the amount of Exp and amount of items you drop when dying?
frigid vigil
Is there a full list of all of the classes and augmentation benefits for all abilities ?
slow sky
not augmentation benefits but there is a full of all the classes
hardy pewter
but not what they do; we just don't know yet
slow sky
marsh panther
Is name changing in the game
frigid vigil
yes I have that list but was just wondering how each secondary augmentation affects the primary class. I guess it is still being developed so I will just wait for that
slow sky
we wont know until secondary classes are hopefully implemented in alpha 2
high ledge
is there any info on how the features mentioned/talked about with Steven in the past week are progressing, development-wise i mean, Are there already base-level implementations of those features that they're working on or is everything mentioned still only just in the "planned" phase?
frigid vigil
Ok that's fine
brazen tartan
when will the skills be announced
rain flower
One question: Can the mayor of a node name the city/town?
proven root
i hope they will take their time with this
rain flower
@simple ether so predetermined names?
slow sky
they will take all the time they need even if that means delays
proven root
even if they said its gonna be implemented in alpha 2, if theyre still unsure of it when the time comes, delay it, its so important
rain flower
@simple ether k thx
wet escarp
I was told PVP vendors wont be available at launch. Seems like i got some questing to do
hollow abyss
do we have an idea for what in game guild symbols/crests will look like?
wicked heath
You will be able to customize it to a certain extent but we dont know the detials
proven root
very cool already
crystal drum
When you gain high corruption you will gain a bounty on your head. If you get killed by a bountyhunter, will you suffer the same penalizations than being killed by a green/purple player? Meaning Item drop. Will there be applied a mechanic were the bounty hunter will collect only the money for your head or will he be able to also keep whatever else drops.
wicked heath
yes you will suffer the same as being killed by other players
there is more in-depth stuff about bounty hunters that we dont know yet, there will most likely be some unique mechanics for rewards of the bounty hunter, but the corrupted will face the same losses if anyone else killed him
killing a bounty hunter will not increase your corruption however
crystal drum
oh thats good
hot hamlet
i heard secondary classes will give unique augments to class skills. I am wondering about secondary classes that are the same as your primary. What would choosing say, warrior primary + warrior secondary do for the class?
slow sky
make what you already do even better
selecting the same class as your primary is indeed its own class archetype
frigid vigil
I would guess it would increase the effect of the primary spells of the class
hot hamlet
so for example, more damage and longer stun or something?
frigid vigil
Or maybe require less points to upgrade them from 1 to 2 to 3
Or you get more block from a block ability
or something like that
leaden patio
Hey guys, i was wondering, will AoC have something similar to Heroes from Lineage 2? Basically a higher status among your class fellows which was determined by monthly or byweekly score from doing 1v1 Arenas, which gave you huge skills for your clan or even alliance, it was cool because encouraged to play weaker classes to have an "easier" access to the hero status
boreal abyss
@leaden patio there will be titles that are "unique" or "few can have" if that is what you are asking
wicked heath
we arent too sure on specific PvP rewards other than titles and some unique gear
boreal abyss
if there are any in relation to Arena specifically is unknown
dry reef
Will there be jumping in this game?
wicked heath
yes
slow sky
during yesterdays AMA steven mentioned there are ranks that are exclusive in numbers and to those that get there first like a High Priest in a religion
cunning sparrow
Will cash shop (cosmetic shop) currency and the cosmetics be sellable or tradeable?
crystal beacon
Hard no
zenith acorn
And if i remember, titles will only give you skills to use during seiges
crystal drum
Keeping in the bountyhunter topyc. Are we going to get maybe in the main Ashes of Creation internet site, Rankings per server with players with the most corruption levels? That would thrive players to become more corrupt (so they can make a name for themselves or see their names on the list) and thus improving the optional profession of Bounty Hunting
long tundra
Hey everyone, so i have been reading through the green/purple/red mechanics. Maybe someone can explain it a little better for me. If i am running around, questing, green. And a red player runs up to me and starts attacking me. If i attack back will i remain green or do i turn purple/red?
but that can be cleared if i go back to killing mobs and questing correct?
leaden patio
Sounds good to me thanks
crystal beacon
Purple flag can simply be turned off after a short period of time
unkempt oracle
Do you remove the purple tag, the same way you remove corruption?
crystal drum
Hey everyone, so i have been reading through the green/purple/red mechanics. Maybe someone can explain it a little better for me. If i am running around, questing, green. And a red player runs up to me and starts attacking me. If i attack back will i remain green or do i turn purple/red?
@long tundra the diagram shows that if a green kills a red, it remains green
long tundra
it is a very interesting mechanic. I am very interested in seeing how it works.
zenith acorn
If you defend youself you become purple and that will go away after you win or lose from your battle .. You only become corrupted (red) if you kill a player who wasnt fighting back (green player)
steady ocean
You don’t become a combatant if a corrupted attacks you and you defend yourself though, which is what I think @long tundra was asking
Steven mentioned it’s like a wild animal attacking you, and not a normal player.
versed hollow
@crystal drum if you as a green player kill a corrupted player, there is no effect on you
crystal drum
Yes, that is what I replied to RawCigam 😄
long tundra
thanks yall, that was pretty much what i was asking.
gray zodiac
The stuff you move around, in caravans and such. Are these items you can use?
I mean, if the caravan move 12 crates of self-sealing stembolts.
Are there crafts that actually use self-sealing stembolts?
Barrels of petrified glow-worm eggs.
Are these decorative items you can place in your home?
Will all stuff be player interactive stuff?
Can a thief-guild build their homestead using wood stolen from a wood-caravan?
crystal drum
Will there be a weapon leveling sustem such as Axe fighting, Sword fighting, Magic Level that correlates with level of the character and the weapon you own for the total/average damage you will do? And if so, will it cap or will it be infinate?
onyx knoll
@gray zodiac https://www.ashes101.com/caravans
steady ocean
I’ve not seen anything on a weapon leveling system, just character and profession leveling
onyx knoll
There are weapon abilities
A weapon use combo system is utilized instead of a traditional auto-attack ability in Ashes of Creation.[92] No traditional auto-attack system is present in Alpha-1.[93]
Players can spec into weapon abilities on their combat skill tree, based on their preferred weapon types.[16][15][92]
it's still being fleshed out tho
@gray zodiac TLDR; yes. You might not be able to tell what the caravan is carrying before you destroy it tho, so if you're looking specifically for a specific material it might be hard to target the right group. When you break the caravan you get tokens you can redeem at the region the caravan started at for w-e they were carrying (well, a portion of it)
gray zodiac
nice, caravans hold real stuff.
crystal drum
@gray zodiac TLDR; yes. You might not be able to tell what the caravan is carrying before you destroy it tho, so if you're looking specifically for a specific material it might be hard to target the right group. When you breka the caravan you get tockens you can redeem at the region the caravan started at for w-e they were carrying (well, a portion of it)
@onyx knoll Probably spy profession was born this day. I like that.
versed hollow
@gray zodiac in addition, after a caravan gets destroyed, a portion of what it was carrying gets destroyed, and you can loot the rest
onyx knoll
Lol, yeah spies in big guilds can deff be a thing that could make you good money 😛
long tundra
will archers be required to craft arrows?
onyx knoll
-shudders- @long tundra I hope not... haven't read anything that says you'd need to
waxen dock
whats the patch number called right now?
long tundra
i hope not also. But i will say my experience in other oldschool mmo, different tiers of arrow type made a huge difference. Example - simple, sharp, greater. Or even elemental arrow types, fire, acid, frost, lightning
onyx knoll
pre-alpha?
crystal drum
-shudders- @long tundra I hope not... haven't read anything that says you'd need to
@onyx knoll If not Bows should damage on use if meele weapons also damage on use for balance
waxen dock
ah ok does it just say pre-alpha in the client?
full badger
ah ok does it just say pre-alpha in the client?
@waxen dock There isn't a client
onyx knoll
idk there's only like 250 people that have access to the client atm
waxen dock
how are those playing without a client
onyx knoll
we're not
alpha 1 starts in fall
atm it's basically just dev footage + a couple of people who were big tier backers on kickstarters
waxen dock
oh so not even the highest founders had access
onyx knoll
just the very highest 2500$ backers
crystal drum
atm it's basically just dev footage + a couple of people who were big tier backers on kickstarters
@onyx knoll when is fall in your region?
crystal beacon
The highest founders were in prealpha
waxen dock
thats what i meant
steady ocean
Aug-October ish
waxen dock
but to get into the game they for sure use a client... and did it say any specific patch number or does it say pre-alpha..
high ledge
autumn*
waxen dock
Start of fall is always september 22nd on my birthday
full badger
but to get into the game they for sure use a client... and did it say any specific patch number or does it say pre-alpha..
@waxen dock There probably was a number on the client, but I don't know why you need to know what it is
crystal beacon
^
thin minnow
how much did they pay for pre alpha acces XD :p
waxen dock
just writing something and was curious
crystal drum
autumn*
@high ledge yes, I understand. But Autumn/fall is from March to June here, therefor my question
crystal beacon
They're doing a gradual transition from pre-alpha into alpha 1 proper, bringing in each next group one at a time, so it's a little grey what phase it is.
Safe to say it's pre-alpha until they say alpha 1 is in full swing
@thin minnow I believe cheapest alpha 1 package was 485 for early birds, 500 regularly.
onyx knoll
@thin minnow 2500$
crystal beacon
Those that are in now, yeah, 2500.
onyx knoll
pre-alpha access is for the 2500$ backers, alpha 1 was much cheaper
high ledge
how many players will be required to level-up a single node and how long would it take? any info on this atm?
onyx knoll
we don't have exact numbers on that
crystal drum
pre-alpha access is for the 2500$ backers, alpha 1 was much cheaper
@onyx knoll U$S?
onyx knoll
ya
full badger
how many players will be required to level-up a single node and how long would it take? any info on this atm?
@high ledge only vague rough estimates right now
crystal drum
damn
crystal beacon
@high ledge Not exact info, I heard from a prealpha player that 40 people worked a couple hours to get one leveled.
onyx knoll
damn indeed lol
high ledge
ok thanks everyone 🙂
thin minnow
Are there any infos yet how many people did buy the biggest package ?
wicked heath
the biggest ks pack was capped at 3 I think
minor elm
nah like 5-6K
wicked heath
im talking about the highest ks pack
sonic echo
5 people
minor elm
Yes
crystal flax
Capped at 10 but 5 bought it
onyx knoll
very highest one was 10k
sonic echo
Pheonix thingy
onyx knoll
Avatar of the Pheonix
minor elm
Ahh I checked kickstarter the other day, i mustve missed it
onyx knoll
proven root
hows the BR combat system? im assuming they updated it a few times to test and get feedback and by the end it'll be like their mmorpg's combat system?
not sure im clear
inland totem
people seem to be chomping at pledges, why don't you all @ margaret ;D she's the marketing director
minor elm
@inland totem you do it first 🙂
onyx knoll
BR combat system?
inland totem
ha I already applied and dmed one of the team because I really wanna work here
crystal beacon
@proven root The BR was purely action combat, so it's not an exact representation of what the MMO will have.
thin minnow
would you guys buy the biggest pre-order package for the alpha ?
sonic echo
I would if I had the extra money to spend
onyx knoll
I would if I had the money to spare -shrug-
light grove
Is there a chance for proximity voip in addition to group/raid?
stable plover
@proven root The BR combat system isn't meant to be the same as the MMO's. The BR only had action abilities, and was meant to test those, while the MMO wants to have the ability to pick 75% action - 25% tab combat (or visa versa or 50/50)
crystal beacon
@light grove Heard today that there will be proximity voip in some regard, not sure exactly where though.
onyx knoll
@light grove proximity VC hasn't been confirmed yet but they said they were considering it for some content
crystal beacon
@light grove Taverns, at the very least.
proven root
@stable plover @crystal beacon thanks you 2
light grove
That's cool to hear. I'd love to RP with voice over Text rp
minor elm
@inland totem Pledges arent a job though? Just benedits?
crystal beacon
@onyx knoll Jahlon came in to correct me earlier sounding very sure proximity chat will happen (to my surprise)
inland totem
@minor elm yeah but I don't want to stir the poo too hard
crystal beacon
stir the poo
😂
onyx knoll
Jahlon prob knows better then all of us 😂
crystal drum
people seem to be chomping at pledges, why don't you all @ margaret ;D she's the marketing director
@inland totem It is Natural. It is scary when someone like steve talks as much as No Mans Sky lead Dev. We all know how that went. Same case with Star Citizen. Ambicious games are scary. We hope the devs can pull all this out, but at the same time, we feel steve should stop hyping the train cause the game is still young on development
analog swan
Will we be able to farm cotton?
minor elm
I feel like DMing margaret is a no no lol
onyx knoll
@crystal drum The big difference between this game and no man's sky is they don't have a publisher pushing them in the ass to release early/unfished stuff
@analog swan There will be gardening/farming
crystal beacon
@crystal drum Big thing to keep in mind between this and Star Citizen are the words feature creep. Star Citizen just kept adding and adding features throughout development, so they were doomed to never finish the game.
inland totem
@crystal drum I think he did well in his out-tro in his last vid and that was saying, just talk about the game and give feedback. I think that was his mission and that's why most of us are here. Creation of anything requires a great deal of ideas, and it's hard to do in a vacuum. I understand it on a huge degree, and I think creating a community not built around a cult of followers but a group that just wants to be excited is necessary. I think Steven wants to make his dream game, and that game has other people in it, so he wants them around during the creation process.
crystal beacon
Will we be able to use customized guild logos? and will we be able to play music? (like archeage)
@crystal beacon Customized guild logos: Being discussed. Music: Not planned afaik
inland totem
@crystal drum you got me though, cause I play both nms and sc
stable plover
^They plan to have a music scriptingMacro language the last we heard (a long time ago)
crystal beacon
I must have missed that! adds to notes
wicked heath
.midi ?
ripe dawn
Has anyone seen any Arab guilds?
inland totem
the forums are easier to navigate than the channel IMHO
gray zodiac
Are there secrets in the game?
I mean, game mechanics.
Hidden classes, crafts.
wicked heath
Im sure there will be plenty, probably not hidden classes though
knotty dew
they wouldn't be secrets if we knew would they
crystal beacon
@gray zodiac Considering there won't be any official database for items and recipes and whatnot, and they're trying their best to prevent datamining, everything will be secret until it is discovered.
gray zodiac
I like that
onyx knoll
there are hidden areas with loot and such but as far as we know, no hidden classes... tho if there are any then they prob wouldn't tell us, because then they wouldn't be hidden, would they? 😛
sour vessel
New hidden class : gourmand
coral sonnet
I get this message every time I try to preorder(day three of having it)
anyone know how to fix?
silver snow
Can nodes help out other nodes during a siege, not to attack the node, but to defend it as well?
crystal beacon
@coral sonnet Other people are reporting issues as well, probably Xsolla getting overwhelmed with all the new interest. Submit a ticket.
onyx knoll
@coral sonnet did you try contacting customer support?
coral sonnet
where can I go to do that?
silver snow
Also people in the same guild dont have to be a part of the same node right?
crystal beacon
@silver snow Correct
onyx knoll
scroll down from the shop page
silver snow
So theoretically you could just have one guild that rules over the entirety of the map
coral sonnet
saw literally as you posted
thanks chief
onyx knoll
haha np ^^
crystal beacon
@silver snow One guild can only have 300 people, and server will hold 10k concurrently, so.. not likely.
wicked heath
@silver snow theoretically but that is not gonna happen unless you can control the citzens of every single node
unreal zealot
@silver snow yeh if you plan to say split your guild up and use the alliance system you could split your guild into two nodes maybe even 4 to maximise all the content availiable to you
onyx knoll
Theoratically you'd need all 10k people to agree to let you control everything, and that sounds really boring...
silver snow
Oh alright
But arent there only 103 possible nodes?
most of which wont be unlocked cause others might be max lvl
onyx knoll
If someone does manage to gain control of every node, then what the hell, they deserve to be in charge
silver snow
lmao it seems like a fun idea
whole juniper
What are the plans to stop Bots from ruining the economy like in Runescape
stable plover
@coral sonnet go into your paypal account and unauthorize Xsolla., which forces it to re-establish -> Jahlons advice assuming your using paypall -> You'd need to contact Xsolla customer support instead of Intrepid's about that one if you need assistance most likely, but filling out a ticket with Intrepid for documentation doesn't hurt
slow sky
active moderation and a $15 sub fee to make it harder for bot accounts to just get in
inland totem
honestly that didn't work for WoW
coral sonnet
@coral sonnet go into your paypal account and unauthorize Xsolla., which forces it to re-establish -> Jahlons advice assuming your using paypall -> You'd need to contact Xsolla customer support instead of Intrepid's about that one if you need assistance most likely, but filling out a ticket with Intrepid for documentation doesn't hurt
@stable plover I'm trying to pay with my card, sadly
sonic echo
does aoc have first person
@earnest jay
wicked heath
@whole juniper there will be an "advanced server algorythm" that can analyze player inventories for cheated goods, or predict RMT. also bot detection
sonic echo
This is a valid question
inland totem
In Wow there were chinese goldfarms
slow sky
no f2p
whole juniper
Ok
slow sky
the game is monthly sub
crystal drum
Can nodes help out other nodes during a siege, not to attack the node, but to defend it as well?
@silver snow I think everyone can attack the node, But only the citizens and the Allied Nodes of that particular city can defend it. I am prety shure that is what I understood from yesterdays AMA
whole juniper
and how do u stop Gold farmers
slow sky
no box cost and free expansions
inland totem
no idea
onyx knoll
No, you ban the gold BUYERS
inland totem
I mean, honestly they're utilizing the system to make money
desert ivy
Yes, but that won't stop people from buying and selling
Unless you can get a 100% ban rate
and I don't know a single game where that';s happened
stable plover
@coral sonnet Some banks just don't like Xsolla -> you might need to contact some combination of Intrepid/Xsolla/your bank
onyx knoll
if gold buyers get banned and word spread that there are tons of people loosing their accounts for RMT, then gold sellers will have no customers
Yeah clearly it's not possible to 100% stop them
silver snow
Makes sense @crystal drum. Lol that was just a speculation that I wanted to confirm for my second question, and whether or not it was possible for one guild to have the entire map under their control
inland totem
that's the entire proof of concept with the war on drugs
@onyx knoll
onyx knoll
but you can still make it really hard for them to profit
unreal zealot
they have alot of things in place to punish gold buying/selling botting or multiboxing with macros or 3rdparty software
dark jungle
prolly best to move discussion to #aoc-discussion
let the peeps with questions use this channel
coral sonnet
All right I’ll look in a min
whole juniper
Will there be a system to maintain buildings/nodes so there won't be an overstock of resources?
Resource dumps etc
alpine maple
Is there a way to link the website account with discord?
wicked heath
yes there is constant upkeep for nodes
dark jungle
not yet @alpine maple they are talking about doing that in the future though
onyx knoll
biggest ressource dumb I've seen so far is the repair feature. You'll need raw materials to repair gear, not just gold
crystal drum
Makes sense @crystal drum. Lol that was just a speculation that I wanted to confirm for my second question, and whether or not it was possible for one guild to have the entire map under their control
@silver snow When you deal with games that are faction based you are limited to wha you can and can not do. When the PK system is open, you basically can do what ever you want. If there is a Dominant guild, I don't see why they shouldn't dominate spawns and tax players. I mean, that is 90'S MMORPGs in a nuttshell right. So excited!
inland totem
I think honestly the best mechanic to stop guild farming is the node system and marketplace necessity for an AH to even exist
crystal drum
still, green players do not get penalized for death. But you can get PVE camped. Meaning, Dominant Guild could have a couple of guys killing the mobs and npcs you need to progress with the quest
stable plover
For anyone who was getting "Error! null is not an object (evaluating 'this.childWindow.focus')" from the store earlier the advice is to try from a PC and if that doesn't work fill out a CS ticket
median glade
How long will each Alpha/Beta phase last?
crystal drum
How long will each Alpha/Beta phase last?
@median glade Don't expect the game to be open release for at least 2 more years
onyx knoll
we don't know, it'll depend on how well eahc phase goes
desert ivy
They'll last as long as they need to
empty beacon
Hello, sorry i am a little lost digging through the forums and FAQ's. But i purchased the "Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack", when will i be able to play during a alpha/beta phase? Again i am lost and tried my best to search thru the forums.
crystal drum
I believe steven said they rather take time on developing everything and give you everything that you bought, that droping an unfinished game and develope it along the way
onyx knoll
Alpha 1 is starting in fall, you have access to the one after that, sometime in the vague future
empty beacon
Cool. Thank you for the clarification😇
wicked heath
onyx knoll
technically fall starts in september, but hey, if they wana start it in august i'm sure no one will complain 😛
kindred pier
ahh gotcha
desert ivy
August is when the Leader of Men start testing, but technically what they're testing is "pre-alpha" and not the actual alpha 1
The actual alpha 1 starts in fall time when Intrepid pre-order pack holders get invited
crystal beacon
@crystal drum Just to be clear, all players face a death penalty. In fact, purple players have less death penalty than green players.
junior sky
Do you face death penalties after you [green] got killed by another player [red]?
crystal beacon
@junior sky Yes.
solemn snow
If i upgrade to Leader of Men pack will i get into the Summer Alpha 1 or was there a cutoff?
crystal beacon
You'll face less penalty if you at least try to fight back, to incentivize PvP.
junior sky
I see
crystal beacon
@solemn snow Leader of Men isn't an option anymore, it was a kickstarter pack.
solemn snow
I am a kickstarter backer
crystal beacon
@solemn snow Ah! Then yes, you should be able to get in I believe.
junior sky
that's kinda confusing tho cause the way I see it, the three stage mechanic encourages you to do nothing in order to not get flagged combatant
stable plover
@solemn snow If a KS backer upgrades to LoM right now, they need to contact CS with a support ticket
junior sky
while in fact you are supposed to fight back to lower the death penalty?
drifting sable
Whats the suspected timeframe for A2 start? Spring 2021?
cyan viper
@crystal beacon So if a purple jumps me and i ignore them and try to run, i have More of a penalty then flagging and killng them and making myself red...???
solemn snow
@stable plover Thanks
stable plover
@drifting sable No timeframe given
crystal beacon
@cyan viper You don't get corruption for killing a combatant.
junior sky
you won't go red for killing a combatant
cyan viper
Ahhhhh sweet, ty!
keen linden
@crystal drum @silver snow I think the best part about this is that it drives the player communities/guilds that will create server makeups
crystal beacon
@junior sky The only reason to do nothing is if you don't think you have any hope of winning and want to tag the attacker with corruption.
silver snow
Im just excited to run the guild that rules over one of the servers
junior sky
hmm okay
crystal beacon
how much time ( hours ) do the alphas last for?
cyan viper
Yeah fi you die Green, then other will come kill them
tame flame
Do the mount skins only apply to mounts of that type (say turtle, for the currently available skin) or to all mounts?
crystal beacon
But if you die while Purple, you have 50% less death penalty than if you die while green.
cyan viper
Yeah but that person will also have less punishment, its the ballance of 50/50 punishment or 100/100% each
light grove
If I die green and then come back and kill the now corrupted person, they get quadruple punishment?
calm cairn
There shouldn't be death penalty for being purple, as this encourages people not to want to fight.
echo shale
hi there any information about how scribing gonna work?
crystal beacon
how much time ( hours ) do the alphas last for?
@light grove If you can find them before they work off the corruption, yes
cyan viper
@calm cairn The penalty for dieing green is higher i believe
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon Will depend on server stability and what they need, alpha 2 is planned to be persistent.
calm cairn
@cyan viper you mean red?
cyan viper
Nope
light grove
This is the way then 
crystal beacon
@cyan viper Totally made up numbers, if you lose 10% exp/mats when you die Green, you'll lose 5% when you die purple, and 40% when you die red.
cyan viper
Yea ^^^^
calm cairn
so they encourage you to be purple? thats cool 😄
cyan viper
Yea, fighting back is better for you
calm cairn
nice! glad to hear that! thanks for asking
stable plover
@crystal beacon A1 is scheduled in sessions with gradually increasing uptime, A2 is 24/7 (minus some maintenance) until launch, B1/B2 are scheduled test sessions that start sometime after A2 and will theoretically take place over a shorter period of time compared to A1/A2
cyan viper
But, dieing green is better for you if you want the REd player hunted
gleaming ember
but the penalty for dying being green only affects to your xp or also those tickets(money) you are gonna drop
echo shale
hi is there any information about how scribing gonna work?.. i find it really usless or just meaningless on most mmos..How Aoc gonna Destinct itself from other mmos when it come to this profession?
ivory latch
do we have to buy the major dlcs ?
crystal beacon
@echo shale We don't have a lot of information on professions yet, all we do know is here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Scribes
@ivory latch Game updates are intended to be free/covered under the sub fee.
stable plover
@echo shale If you know scribing exists you probably know all the details we have on it. Map making can be useful in AoC for revealing info you know to other players (What nodes have leveled/disapeared, where did a major mine appear) - not quite sure what % of that job is specifically for scribes (similar to the shipwright profession making parts that others can assemble). There are also records of the servers history that might be tied to the profession.
echo shale
i wish that scribers craft maps and make selling of ito remove the fog
oh sweet exactly what im thinkin
can someone confirm if steven had heavy inspiration from Log Horizon 
??
errant chasm
so if i buy voyage plus pack right now will there be any chance of getting mounts previously in the pack such as the tidebreaker or is the tidebreaker basically gone forever?
crystal beacon
@echo shale Don't think anyone can confirm that but steven himself, but I doubt it.
ivory latch
Thanks V
cedar abyss
Just wondering, to make a guild do I need to go somewhere to announce I'm creating a guild or can I just add it to my name and leave it at that?
eager river
Have we heard anything about losing level? I know that xp can be lost, but can you actually drop levels? Would this potentially affect artisan classes?
crystal beacon
@errant chasm Previous *pack cosmetics are gone for good. You may see reskins at some point in the future, but that's just conjecture.
@eager river You don't lose levels directly, but you can have your stats diminished.
stable plover
@errant chasm No, once limited time cosmetics are gone, their gone - similar looking things might appear in game or in the store again (say other bear mounts), but not exactly the same
errant chasm
fair enough
crystal beacon
@cedar abyss You'd likely want to post an ad in aoc-guild-recruitment and/or on the forums, but you're more than welcome to just change your name.
stable plover
(Not every cosmetic Intrepid has ever had was promised as limited time, for example some of the APOC stuff, but all of the pre-order pack cosmetics are timed)
cedar abyss
What if I just wanted the guild to be friends only? Kind of like a closed / invite only guild. Is that allowed?
ok thanks
eager river
@crystal beacon do you have any more info on this? Up front it sounds like you could be punished for being ganked by becoming weaker and weaker. Am I understanding that correctly?
crystal drum
@crystal drum Just to be clear, all players face a death penalty. In fact, purple players have less death penalty than green players.
@crystal beacon Soey for late reply, I was vaccum cleaning. What do you mean Green players suffer death penalty? If a red/Purple player kills a green. The green loses exp up on death?
ivory latch
so you can have taming and animal husbandry professions same time ?
stable plover
#aoc-guild-recruitment doesn't take posts from guilds that are thinking about forming (No "Does anyone want to start a guild?" posts - use guild chat for that) but once you've done things like pick out your guild name you can post in recruitment following the template rules
Also consider the recruitment reddit and forums
crystal beacon
@eager river @crystal drum There is always a death penalty, whether you die in PvP or PvE. It takes a solid amount of debt to start facing stat reduction, and you can't be corpse camped in this game.
@ivory latch YOu can't master both as one is considered gathering and the other is considered processing.
eager river
@crystal beacon ok cool, thank you! 😄
random moat
Do we know when they stop the Voyager Plus pre-order pack?
ivory latch
so i can only have 1 to max
crystal beacon
@random moat No plans as of now, they will give prior warning (in the realm of months)
random moat
Excellent thank you 🙂
crystal beacon
@ivory latch you can max all professions within one tree of the system. So either all gathering, all processing, or all crafting.
crystal drum
@eager river @crystal drum There is always a death penalty, whether you die in PvP or PvE. It takes a solid amount of debt to start facing stat reduction, and you can't be corpse camped in this game.
@crystal beacon I'm affraid I don't understand you, is there a video that talks about what you are mentioning. I am sory, English is not my first language. I dont understand which or what is this "debt" mechanic
brave sage
Have there been any announcements on crests/emblems for players and guilds? Like can I play a fighter/cleric and make him look like the standard kind of Maltese crusader?
low lantern
@ivory latch you can have both but can’t master both
ivory latch
ohhh so i can i can have all gathering skills and max them. thats good
rare geyser
When is Beta 2 planned??
keen path
Nothing aside of Alpha 1 is planned yet
crystal beacon
@crystal drum When you die, instead of losing exp, you gain "exp debt" which is like negative exp. Further exp you gain will pay off that debt before you continue leveling. While you won't directly lose levels due to exp debt ( so you won't lose skills and other such things ) you may face stat reduction if your exp debt gets too high.
rare geyser
tyty
crystal drum
@crystal drum When you die, instead of losing exp, you gain "exp debt" which is like negative exp. Further exp you gain will pay off that debt before you continue leveling. While you won't directly lose levels due to exp debt ( so you won't lose skills and other such things ) you may face stat reduction if your exp debt gets too high.
@crystal beacon OMG! That is amazing! Imagine the posibilities! You literally can do what ever you want now
solemn snow
So at max level you would still have to go kill some mobs to make up for it?
stable plover
@brave sage They intend to have player uploaded-able images, and also ways of designing logos in game, Don't quite have details on everything the player images can be used for.
crystal drum
Thats insane. I love it
solemn snow
is that for all kinds of deaths or just pve?
dreamy nacelle
Do we know when is the game coming out?
brave sage
@brave sage They intend to have player uploaded-able images, and also ways of designing logos in game, Don't quite have details on everything the player images can be used for.
@stable plover thank you very much. Looking forward to being a crusading zealot
crystal beacon
Death penalty is the same in PvE and PvP, only depends on what your flagged state is.
stable plover
@solemn snow All kinds, PvP deaths give less debt though -> this includes dungeons/raids
crystal drum
is that for all kinds of deaths or just pve?
@solemn snow open world pve and pvp im asuming
whole dawn
cant wait for all the owo emblems
crystal beacon
Will end raid bosses contain rare mounts with low percent drops
@stable plover Do we know if you can run around in flagged state to face lowered penalties in PvE?
light grove
So raid night is cancelled after wiping a bunch of times because everyone needs to grind their exp back
crystal drum
Will end raid bosses contain rare mounts with low percent drops
@crystal beacon steven did say there will be mount drops in asmongold inerview
whole dawn
@crystal beacon yes, you can even get flying mounts from world bosses
noble elk
Is it more expensive to buy the 75$ pre order pack and then buy cosmetics or to buy the 250$ pre order pack ?
stable plover
@crystal beacon yes -> check out dragon eggs -> they're timed though
crystal beacon
@simple ether Cool cool, thanks ❤️
@dreamy nacelle No release date currently, alpha 1 starts "this fall"
crystal drum
@crystal beacon Mobs don't care about your flagged status
@simple ether I thought flying mounts were restricted to castle owners and mayors
cunning sparrow
I know that combat system is in the works but how about movement (based on videos I feel it is quite clunky and not that fluid as it could be)? You guys are going to keep character body collision? Thoughts?
@wanton kelp
Something i've been wondering and looking for people's opinions on for the last couple days. The movement animations, walking, attacks, it seems almost like you are watching a video but the audio is off by a second. It's barely noticeable but it's still there that it distracts your attention from everything else but that
proven root
@noble elk ive been told you cant buy cosmetics separately!
outer tiger
Will the game have a auction house or an exchange for selling goods/items?
proven root
NANIIIIIII
dry reef
@crystal drum You can get them as a breeder
eager river
@outer tiger yes it will
crystal beacon
@regal wadi So there wont be (non-flying) mounts that are rare and u can flex with, talking from perspective of wow mount farmer
rain flower
Are caravan ships a thing? Can I take resources from an island on the west and just loop around the island to an island on the east?
whole dawn
i wish i knew how much certain cosmetics will cost in the cash shop because having 135$ of embers doesnt really tell u what you will be able to get with that much
crystal beacon
@dry reef Don't believe you can breed flying mounts, at least, not without the super rare world/raid boss egg drops
proven root
@simple ether so with the 75$ pack, i could buy the costume cosmetic skin in the shop?
ivory latch
you can raise the flying eggs
stable plover
(it would be cheaper to buy a 75$ pack and then all the rest of the cosmetics in a month than 375$ if your wondering for academic curiosity, but no-one should actually do that)
crystal beacon
@rain flower Caravans will transform into boats when approaching open water, will take a little bit for the change to occur.
crystal drum
you cannot breed flying eggs
@simple ether this makes sense, whats the point then. I hate flying on MMOs. Makes the world so small and empty of players.
humble quartz
@stable plover love to see mods so active, thank you! Does anyone know if there has there been any talk of separate PvP stats or gear, compared to PvE?
stable plover
@simple ether I think there were some edge cases early on where KS backers could buy pre-order packs, so someone might have tried to do it at some point
rain flower
@crystal beacon Thnx
worthy scarab
Is there a breakdown of the different races and their base stats?
proven root
so you need the 375$ pack to buy the costume cosmetic
whole dawn
not yet
crystal drum
@crystal drum The point is Monarchs and Metro Mayors have to travel a lot more than the average player
@simple ether wrong usage of words my bad, I meant what would be the point of rarity on flying mounts if breeders could craft them... hahah sory bad english here
crystal beacon
@humble quartz There will be arena and battleground-based enchants that provide PvP specific bonuses, last I heard.
whole dawn
@simple ether what does a max account mean? and how is disney world?
crystal beacon
@worthy scarab Not yet
abstract sparrow
Are mounts unique like in WoW? Or is it more like you have a base mount and apply a skin like Gw2?
whole dawn
so the 375 package
proven root
@simple ether i know what is included in the package, but my question is if youd buy a lower package, can you buy something else separately?
hasty osprey
I love all the nature cosmetics ❤️
stable plover
@humble quartz Intrepid doesn't intend to have special PvP stats
swift harbor
how long will the pre-order packages be available for?
crystal beacon
@proven root You can only buy seperate cosmetics in the same and lower tier as yours, unless you were a kickstarter backer.
digital yacht
@abstract sparrow the ones from the shop are Skins that apply to a base mount im not sure how it works in game tho, but u can breed special mounts in game
cunning sparrow
I think i read somewhere you can buy the cheapest option for the beta key + months of playability and if more cosmetics come in months that you like better you can purchase only the cosmetics rather than the whole bundle. Not sure though
digital yacht
@swift harbor until they take em down we have no dates on when removal will happen, if it does happen we get ample time in notice
hasty osprey
Will Ashes be on steam?
digital yacht
no
crystal beacon
@swift harbor Until they say they're taking them down (we don't really know)
crystal drum
Are mounts unique like in WoW? Or is it more like you have a base mount and apply a skin like Gw2?
@abstract sparrow To give you an example on the broad repertoire of mounts, breeders can breed different creatures to get unique mounts, over that add the boss drop mounts, the vendor level mounts, the faction difference mounts
stable plover
@swift harbor We don't know exactly, different packs may come down at different times (A2 pack could last until launch while B1 pack might come down or become wayfairer+ after B2 is out --> or Intrepid might take any of them down sooner if they say decide they don't want any more players in A2)
sturdy crater
i just hope that the harmonization for poor countries will b affordable
proven root
gotcha! so max package lets you buy any other released cosmetic separately! thank you
digital yacht
yes
swift harbor
Once alpha 1 is released, will the pre-order packages still include access to alpha 2?
digital yacht
yes
gray zodiac
When you make armor using crafting, can you chose what it looks like? (color, decoration) make it recognizable as your product.
crystal beacon
@swift harbor We'll get advance warning when they plan on removing alpha 2 access from the packs.
digital yacht
we dont know but u can dye items
sturdy crater
well,m from north africa so basically i'll b locked to EU or maybe if they make a MENA region,then we will b locked there,but i doubt that theres alot of gamers from MENA who play MMOs
spiral cape
I know this current preorder pack is ending on August 5th, but will the next one also have alpha 2 access in it?
solar isle
Can people still get into alpha 1 or is alpha 2 coming up to soon to worry about it
digital yacht
@spiral cape yes
@solar isle a2 is the sooneest u can get in now
A1access is closed
spiral cape
Okay, thanks
stable plover
@spiral cape only the cosmetics change monthly
crystal drum
well,m from north africa so basically i'll b locked to EU or maybe if they make a MENA region,then we will b locked there,but i doubt that theres alot of gamers from MENA who play MMOs
@sturdy crater Same problem here, from the southest country in south america y will have to log in to the NA servers with a minimum ping of 600+
solar isle
@digital yacht thank you for that answer. is the alpha 2 going to be nda
humble quartz
@stable plover Thank you Grey! In regards to PvP specific stats, I know you said there are no plans, but another member just mentioned Arena / Battleground sourced PvP enchantments. Does that mean those are not the case anymore?
solar isle
awesome and a2 drops soon correct
crystal beacon
Man being in this channel is gonna speed up my typing skills to compete for answering. 😂
sturdy crater
@crystal drum i have a stable 60 ping in most EU servers on everygame,so i really doubt they will include north africa with harmonization price
hasty osprey
Are mounts gonna be something you buy from a vendor or are they gonna be something you tame like in BDO?
fathom sparrow
can a guild leader be a nodes mayor
onyx knoll
pretty sure they can
crystal beacon
@humble quartz The quote on arena/battleground PvP enchantments was from an impromptu steven interview, he could have mispoken.
onyx knoll
you don't HAVE to be one tho
crystal beacon
@hasty osprey Both
raw marsh
more importantly if your guild owns a castle can the GL also be a mayor of a town
crystal drum
@crystal drum i have a stable 60 ping in most EU servers on everygame,so i really doubt they will include north africa with harmonization price
@sturdy crater I am confident they will release a Brasilian server after a brasilian rediter asked that on yesterday AMA. It will be annoying becouse of the language barrier but 70 ping is better than 800
crystal beacon
@raw marsh Yep
fluid sonnet
@humble quartz My interpretation of the pvp enchantments is just that the enchantments would be tailored to benefits that are pvp focused. Not strictly enchants that only function in pvp
humble quartz
@crystal beacon Oh I see, yeah it could have been. Plus I know a lot of things are subject to change, but I'm definitely curious if that's the case now.
crystal beacon
Will it be possible to trade gold and Items from player to player?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon yes
hasty osprey
Will in game marriage be hetero locked?
crystal beacon
God damn nice
onyx knoll
yeah fuck BDO's no player to player trading, it sucks T_T
sturdy crater
@crystal drum brazil has a very strong MMO community,at least 5k players all over the country,if not more,but for north africa,if south africans join the hype train,they will make a dedicated server in there
stable plover
@humble quartz oh no the pvp enchantment stones are still planned, and while those are supposed to offer nice things for PvP, I don't think their going to be like "Stat that reduces damage taken in PvP but not PvE" - Steven's quote is "All stats are PvX"
crystal beacon
@stable plover @humble quartz "There will be pvp-specific benefits you can apply through a socketing system to your gear" was the exact quote from the shroud interview, you can take from that what you will.
sturdy crater
are they gonna add special effects for enchantments? for example;lets say your weap reaches +10,each weapon will glow in a different color,or have blue flames ...etc
digital yacht
dont think we have confirmation on that
crystal beacon
But he did say that right after "PvE and PvP will share stat progression" so... it really isn't very clear.
crystal drum
@crystal drum brazil has a very strong MMO community,at least 5k players all over the country,if not more,but for north africa,if south africans join the hype train,they will make a dedicated server in there
@sturdy crater But if they make a server based on South Africa/Nigeria and you are from Egipt/Lybia/Algeria you should hold on to the EUW/EUE servers
noble elk
@simple ether thanks the link and video helped a lot 😁
crystal beacon
yeah fuck BDO's no player to player trading, it sucks T_T
@onyx knoll BDO overall just sucks ^^ this game is not made for giving a good gameexperience it is made for transactions and cashshop :P played it for 2 years, reached 298 AP and the relief for quiting the game was so high
backtotopic
sturdy crater
@crystal drum thats for sure,my question all over the place was the price harmonization that they talked about,algeria is a poor country when it comes to income compared to EU,so i guess we will see what they can do,maybe i'll push my question in the next AMA
solid sparrow
@crystal beacon hit 322 AP, I feel you. I quit when they pulled the cronstone stuff.
light grove
@sturdy crater I might be misremembering but I think glow effects could also come from just having a high quality crafted item depending on the crafters skill and materials used
crystal beacon
@humble quartz https://youtu.be/PCTbppzbJGw?t=836
humble quartz
@stable plover Thanks for the response! That raises so many questions, but mainly what is the definition of benefits that are useful to PvP but also apply to PvX? Would it be examples like +30% CC resistence, or +30% Strength to slows? Where it COULD be taken for PvE but just wouldn't be as effective as if it were applied to players?
rain flower
Probably to early to ask, but what are the main type of weapon bards use? (Bow or sword)
crystal beacon
@humble quartz Video I linked is the most direct response to that we've gotten.
stable plover
Well it could be a change in design direction
humble quartz
@crystal beacon Oh wonderful! Thank you for that.
crystal beacon
Player to player trades are awesome to hear. It opens a whole new tradesystem but what will be the action against botters/goldsellers? Will there be HWID Bans & GM's focussing on catching these guys?
sturdy crater
@light grove if you heard about a game called RaiderZ,they pretty much had a really cool special effects for every weap when u enchant it to a certain degree,i hope they can implement that too + the costume will look cool
faint galleon
does anyone know how big a metropolis's ZOI will be or a picture showing how the vassel system works regarding the nodes next to each other.
digital yacht
@rain flower they use any weapon they want, but we dont have a "best" weapon yet cuz we know nothing of bards
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon There will be active GMs, yes
crystal drum
@crystal drum thats for sure,my question all over the place was the price harmonization that they talked about,algeria is a poor country when it comes to income compared to EU,so i guess we will see what they can do,maybe i'll push my question in the next AMA
@sturdy crater Oh yeah, you should. I am from Argentina, 15 us dollars are 1078,57 pesos. Its quite a lot. I'll pay it monthly though, but it will nice for shure
crystal beacon
@faint galleon It is said a metro will have a ZoI that takes up about 20% of the map.
@crystal beacon There will be active GMs, yes
@crystal beacon focussing on stuff like goldsellers?
stable plover
I would assume it's like +30% stun resistance that is just much more useful in PvP personally for the moment though
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon Not solely, but that's a big part of their job, yes.
rain flower
@digital yacht alright, thought so
sonic igloo
I want to confirm there's going to be no NDA for future Alphas/beta phases?
humble quartz
Woot, my example was good! lol
crystal drum
@sturdy crater Oh yeah, you should. I am from Argentina, 15 us dollars are 1078,57 pesos. Its quite a lot. I'll pay it monthly though, but it will nice for shure
@crystal drum plus 30% extra becouse of online international market
crystal beacon
Alright awesome to hear that
@sonic igloo Current plan is to lift NDA entirely for alpha 1
raw shuttle
since it was said in the ama that the character creatoris similiarto the BDO character creator will there also be an official place where people can upload/download their character creations to share them?
sonic igloo
@crystal beacon thanks man
rain flower
Will the game be on steam or on its own launcher?
digital yacht
its own launcher
crystal drum
since it was said in the ama that the character creatoris similiarto the BDO character creator will there also be an official place where people can upload/download their character creations to share them?
@raw shuttle Steven said you will be able to pre customize your character before game release and save the settings to load it into the game on launch
crystal beacon
This studio deserves some respect if these systems get implemented the way it was said.
hasty osprey
are gliding mounts and flying mounts dif things? if so Will everyone be able to have a gliding mount or are they rare like flying mounts?
crystal beacon
👍
keen delta
Iv got a question regarding classes. How different are they hoping on making the different claases feel?
digital yacht
@raw shuttle they said they want ppl to be able to save the file so we can import it on launch but no where to upload but maybe the forums
crystal beacon
@hasty osprey Different things, gliding mounts aren't nearly as rare
scarlet lantern
How will the crafting system work?, Will it be it be similar to ffxiv crafting system?
raw shuttle
yeah that was the question if they are also planning on having such a upload/download feature
digital yacht
we dont know the full spectrum of Crafting
crystal beacon
@scarlet lantern We don't know too much about the crafting yet
scarlet lantern
Aww man :(
bold tusk
@keen delta if im not mistaken, there will be class skills, weapon skills, which are separate. so you can be a warrior with a wand if you want.
crystal beacon
@keen delta Kind of a hard question to answer, but I can tell you they're strongly trying to avoid the WoW-type homogenization that is rampant in MMOs of late.
digital yacht
but classes will have a "preferred" weapon like rangers will prety much use a bow
bold tusk
@scarlet lantern they said crafting system will have a feel closer to star wars galaxies.... but still not ironed out completely yet
crystal drum
Since the game has an action stlye of combat (or something in between really) will all characters from all races and genders will have the same hitbox. If not are they going to make it up for them characters with a larger hitbox, like a higher damage or speed base stat?
digital yacht
we dont know yet
light grove
Will a Mayor be able to name the Village/City/Metropolis?
digital yacht
@light grove atm what ive heard is no? but maybe?
keen delta
Thanks for the info! I just want the class fantasy to be a core thing in a way
humble quartz
Thanks for that video link. Just an update from that video related to PvP Stats on gear, Steven said in the interview that the PvP Enchantments are purchasable and will be tied to your PvP performance to unlock the ability to purchase, and will not be permanent Enchants, rather temporary. Incase anyone was as interested as I was.
crystal beacon
@light grove Theywill be able to choose from a list of predetemined names
digital yacht
@crystal beacon that new info?
crystal beacon
@digital yacht shrug Heard it from Jahlon this morning
digital yacht
meh
light grove
Okay that's better than living in <insert NSFW name here>
digital yacht
o here it is Governments may be able to choose a node name from a predetermined list.[129][130]
@crystal beacon
proven root
agreed
bold tusk
@crystal drum Steven did mention once before that he does NOT like the idea of "oddjob" from 007, in the idea that oddjob was the easiest pvp character to play because he was so short. he claimed he was against height advantage
digital yacht
@crystal beacon there may be a predetermined name list https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUJugtqTBxw&feature=youtu.be&t=36m05s
crystal drum
@crystal drum Steven did mention once before that he does NOT like the idea of "oddjob" from 007, in the idea that oddjob was the easiest pvp character to play because he was so short. he claimed he was against height advantage
@bold tusk So it will follow that path of fortnite hitbox most likelly, good.
crystal beacon
@digital yacht Now I want "City McCityface" tbh
digital yacht
lol
light grove
I would love to use Ba Sing Se
bold tusk
@crystal drum no exact details as of yet. but im sure steven will figure out something fair for all
summer glen
Hi everyone, im new to the server and i just have 1 question thats been on my mind for some time so is this the right place to get a dev's response or something ? :p
crystal beacon
@summer glen We very well might be able to answer your question
humble quartz
@crystal drum Steven did mention once before that he does NOT like the idea of "oddjob" from 007, in the idea that oddjob was the easiest pvp character to play because he was so short. he claimed he was against height advantage
woops, i meant to ask TIED to that: does that include character exploration? For example, Taurens in World of Warcraft can't get into some doorways (or at least as easily) as say Gnomes could.
crystal drum
This is not a question, most likely a suggestion, Please please very big please. DO NOT make the mentioned yesterday's SPECIFIC SLIDER abusurdly big. Please not.
light grove
but I want my package to be visible
desert ivy
We already know the boob-slider won't be dumb levels of big
They've confirmed this already
rain bear
Boob Sliders only guarantee Flat Justice, unfortunately
cunning sparrow
last i checked this wasn't a korean mmo
proven root
what a shame. jk
rain bear
The upper end is only as risque as the mods wish to be, and what the ESRB says
keen delta
We already know the boob-slider won't be dumb levels of big
@desert ivy
bold tusk
@humble quartz i think similar to how rogues get the ability to find secret doors, there could be small door ways only dwarves' can get through. but i can't say for sure! lol
summer glen
ohh ok then my question is : some of my favorite part about mmo-rpgs was that some special abilities or key abilities for a class had to be unlocked with quests. like for example a hunter getting his first pet threw a quest or a warlock learning to summon a demon. will AOC have something like this ?
fluid sonnet
I think rogues finding secret doors is a strong class fantasy mechanic
I don’t think those mechanics will also exist for race
idle onyx
Sorry to interrupt ik my question isnt as interesting as boob slider but does anybody knows approximately when the full game is gonna launch? like next year?
light grove
No ETA
crystal beacon
@idle onyx No eta, generous estimate is 2022 (hopeful conjecture, really)
idle onyx
sorry what does eta stands for?
light grove
expected time of arrival
turbid sphinx
so is the game in alpha 1 atm? or starting alpha 1 soonish?
idle onyx
oh ok rip
light grove
alpha one in fall
crystal beacon
Alpha 1 starts officially "this fall"
crystal drum
I think rogues finding secret doors is a strong class fantasy mechanic
@fluid sonnet WoW had its own cities rogue only areas, crows would be the sign. Its totally fine
proven root
alpha 2 this year too?
turbid sphinx
thx thx
crystal beacon
@summer glen I haven't heard anything like that, may be wise to post on the forums.
light grove
@proven root depends on how Alpha 1 ends up working or not
crystal beacon
@proven root alpha 2 when alpha one is done
humble quartz
@idle onyx they are looking to start an early version of alpha soon, but that means they will have to go through multiple versions of alpha, as well as beta, before they look to release. So I think most people on the community are expecting 2022. Could be sooner, probably wouldn't be a crazy amount later than that.
proven root
👌
summer glen
@summer glen I haven't heard anything like that, may be wise to post on the forums.
@crystal beacon ok thanks for the help m8
cunning sparrow
im assuming alpha 2 would be at the end of 2020 around december-jan
fluid sonnet
It’s just a matter of how many snags and or reworks are required along the way
desert ivy
Since alpha 1 will probably only start in December knowing Intrepid
cunning sparrow
alpha 1 is fall
desert ivy
Yes
And Fall lasts until December 20th
and intrepid like to release stuff late into their scheduled release
fluid sonnet
The alpha and betas are meant to shed light on any issues with current mechanics to make sure stuff works before moving on to new stuff
crystal drum
Did big streamers got Aplha invitations and will they be able to stream it?
desert ivy
These aren't going to be short alphas. These alphas will take months and months for each phase.
bold tusk
I HOPE steven makes those streamers buy into the alpha like everyone else, getting in "free" just because they stream IMHO is "bull!@#$"
proven root
m a r k e t i n g
desert ivy
It's not bullshit
turbid sphinx
@bold tusk they bring a lot of things to the game taht are far more beneficial than any 1 of us can tho.
proven root
hope youve heard of that before
fluid sonnet
I don’t think that is bullshit at all. It’s extremely healthy for the game to get more eyes on it
crystal drum
asmongold for sure is getting keys
@cunning sparrow Oh right he did say "i will try to get you keys guys" as if it was on his power to do hahaha. mb
bold tusk
hey if i paid 500, they can pay 500 rofl
fluid sonnet
The streamer is providing their own value
desert ivy
Asmon gets 70k viewers regularly. In no way is it bullshit for him to get in free
woeful sage
i understand it from a marketing standpoint but im a little irked from a jealousy standpoint
sonic igloo
[Q] so do mounts in this game fight and take damage?
crystal drum
I HOPE steven makes those streamers buy into the alpha like everyone else, getting in "free" just because they stream IMHO is "bull!@#$"
@bold tusk It's not bs, it's marketing.
bold tusk
its not like those streamers don't have the money to buy in....
proven root
except these streamers will likely bring a thousand, a million more than you will
fluid sonnet
Well everyone can be jealous. I get that. I’m jealous at his streaming success
proven root
and you WANT that
light grove
@sonic igloo you can take out someones mount yes
humble quartz
I had sort of a big question, hopefully the scope isn't too broad but does anyone know how they plan on balancing the relevance of previous end-game content once they add expansions? I ask because this is being marketed as a sandbox mmorpg NOT a theme-park mmorpg like WoW. When I think of Sandbox, things like Oldschool Runescape come to mind, and in games like that we have most "end-game" or poweful boss items/gear stay relevant one way or another. Whether through unique effects that stay useful, etc.
cunning sparrow
you should be thankful they are getting it free. You have the ability to watch them stream and tell you how it is without you having to fork over $200-300 for alpha 1 key
sonic igloo
@light grove so they fight too? makes animal husb even more impactful
desert ivy
This discord is literal proof of that reach and influence Asmon has. The discord went from 30k to 44k users after he and summit reacted to Peons video.
worthy scarab
I’m fine with them getting keys, I am also jealous lol
proven root
^
crystal beacon
@sonic igloo mounts don't fight, but they can die. combat pets do fight.
crystal beacon
@sonic igloo except for royal flying mounts. they have combat abilities.
proven root
no one wants a dead population mmorpg. trust me, youre glad they are getting them.
crystal drum
@bold tusk It's not bs, it's marketing.
@crystal drum Besides I am not about dropping a 2.5k on a 1/4 completed game during a pandemic, where the money is missing, being able to see the game through streamers is a blessing
light grove
@sonic igloo I don't know if they fight but I know they can be targeted seperately and can be killed. They will be revived after a certain amount of time or with items iirc.
cunning sparrow
i'd rather save my money on the beta keys when the game is polished out. That'll be a great experience
coral sonnet
are classes limited in the alpha builds right now? like certain classes are blocked off or anything like that?
proven root
absolutely
bold tusk
the smallest package was only $500.... im one of them....
sacred tangle
The time and attention they are giving the game on stream is worth more than the price of the buy in
crystal beacon
@humble quartz Not a question I've heard and answer to, probably worth posting on the forums.
cunning sparrow
@bold tusk in that case enjoy your perks
sonic igloo
well if they can be targetted and killed, they should be able to fight. at least combat trained mounts. hope that is added at some point
cunning sparrow
the majority of the people are eager to wait for the alpha 1 streams
wicked tinsel
oi when tf this game coming out
desert ivy
2+ years
proven root
i didnt even know alpha 1 could be streamed, thats good news
light grove
@humble quartz Last I checked it was called a Sandpark so both Sandbox and Themepark
desert ivy
Personally, I'm of the opinion that Alpha 1 shouldn't be able to be streamed since you know damn well that people will see it and be like "this looks like shit lmao look how buggy and unfinished it looks", like yes, the game is unfinished, it's literally the first phase of testing.
cunning sparrow
also i heard some keys can be in giveaways by the devs or streamers in their community like asmon
desert ivy
Streamers will get beta 2 keys to give away
sacred tangle
Okay but then 2 years later they'll see how much better it is and know that effort went in
proven root
but im realistic in a way that i know it most likely wont be very pretty
crystal beacon
@desert ivy I agree that at least waiting til A2 would be ideal, when it’s persistent and we have access to full classes
fluid sonnet
The devs know the game is still a ways out and feel that allowing everyone interested to see it and give feedback will accelerate the process and refine things at the most efficient rate possible
crystal drum
Loving how the "questions" channel became the "aoc-discussion" channel. Devs will have a tough time to read all your posible good ideas like this.
cunning sparrow
I know that combat system is in the works but how about movement (based on videos I feel it is quite clunky and not that fluid as it could be)? You guys are going to keep character body collision? Thoughts?
Something i've been wondering and looking for people's opinions on for the last couple days. The movement animations, walking, attacks, it seems almost like you are watching a video but the audio is off by a second. It's barely noticeable but it's still there that it distracts your attention from everything else but that
desert ivy
Body collision is a thing yes, but you can move people via inertia
crystal beacon
@cunning sparrow 100% keeping collision, movement and combat still being iterated on
@cunning sparrow Steven tried to make it very clear he is aware that smooth combat is the number 1 more important aspect of a successful mmo in the Q&A
ivory latch
combat is still being worked on
cunning sparrow
I was making an example in general where some videos' audio is off by a second not sync with the people's lips and actions
crystal drum
Also, this needs to move to #aoc-discussion
@simple ether Discord been growing since LazyPeon video, 3 mods can not control all these people not respecting the proper forums. You got to let it flow till thw waters calm. But for the moment they should drop a @ ALL reminder
edit: they*
desert ivy
Jahlon isn't a mod
proven root
give it a few days itll go back to normal lol
desert ivy
There's more than 3 mods, the rest just aren't online
turbid sphinx
[Q] Having your house and vendor in a "guild area" in DAOC was totally badass. Will guild's be able to setup freeholds in a similar fashion? Or is it going to be broken up based on first come first serve? (I know the issues for the DAOC one just curious about this one)
crystal drum
There's more than 3 mods, the rest just aren't online
@desert ivy That is what i meant 🙂
turbid sphinx
Okay dope thanks!
sterile path
Hi all. is there any fansite media package like logos etc available from Intrepid?
so there is nowhere to download it yet?
limpid acorn
Hey I was just curious what everyones favorite class combos are so far?
modest ermine
How much faster will flying mounts be than land mounts?
crystal beacon
I know there is no ETA for release, but what are your guesses? 2 years?
limpid acorn
Also do races have any stat unique qualities
cunning sparrow
2-3 years is a good guesstimate
crystal drum
Hey I was just curious what everyones favorite class combos are so far?
@limpid acorn Aoc-discussion
limpid acorn
ah ty
steady ocean
@limpid acorn may be better to ask in the #aoc-discussion channel
sterile path
@simple ether cool thanks
crystal beacon
is there a link to road map @simple ether ?
faint galleon
jahlon, did you stream today? and if so, do you have a VOD
cunning sparrow
There's a wiki with a release schedule
faint galleon
alright thanks
crystal beacon
Found this one
cunning sparrow
yes that's the one
steel lily
My question is on being a tank secondary. I play as a dps fury warrior in classic wow but I still still have the ability to tank dungeons and off tank raids just fine. I know that your secondary class will augment your main classes spells, but I’m still wondering on how effective it will be. Will I be able to tank dungeons as a fighter primary tank secondary in ashes?
Gotcha thank you
mental night
@simple ether had a question regarding summoner's. Will there be the ability to do a multi summon? Not in the sense one person summoning 100 units of great power to fight for that one person but as an option for one summoner to summon x number of lesser summons to control with individual actions for each unit. Or in retrospect the summoner having the ability to summon one unit with their own power and there be items in the game that contain summons for the summoner to use in addition to there own summon. I.e. summoner summons a skeletal troll with their own power and pull out a wand or staff that contains the ability to summon an ifrit and summon it on addition to their troll.
frigid narwhal
is there gonna be a global chat?
cunning sparrow
Isn't Shout chat like global chat?
crystal drum
is there gonna be a global chat?
@frigid narwhal global as in between servers or global as in the one server / all kind of thing?
cunning sparrow
then what is local
crystal drum
then what is local
@cunning sparrow local is the zone
cunning sparrow
so what's the difference between shout and local? Shout has bigger proximity?
ebon star
most likely yes shout is further proximity
coral sonnet
did they release a date for alpha 2?
ebon star
no release date yet on alpha 2 its based on successful testing in alpha 1
coral sonnet
kk
junior sky
Do we have any further information on the different classes or is that yet to be released?
crystal beacon
Will get info on the 8 archetype come A1, then one the 64 classes in A2
ebon star
yet to be released
junior sky
ah okay
turbid sphinx
[Q] One of the coolest features in DAOC was the ability as an AC to craft a piece of armor that "rolled/procced" into a perfect set and it would never decay due to durability. Will there be an AC style craft/artisan where what you can craft CAN have great impact on end game content? (as opposed to everyone running around in dungeon/raid gear)
very nice (tried looking through wiki a bit sorry if im asking questions answered there)
fluid sonnet
So end game bosses can drop completed gear at a really low drop rate, but also materials for artisans to craft that gear at higher drop rates
cunning sparrow
I think this question was asked a lot, but to confirm with the AoC shop you can purchase a package, and when the new cosmetics come out, you are able to purchase the individual cosmetics without the full package at a smaller price? So you can't get the new cosmetic items individually if you haven't unlocked them in the previous larger pack?
fluid sonnet
So to craft gear on par with dungeon and boss drops still requires materials from those dungeons and bosses
steady ocean
Right @cunning sparrow
crystal beacon
@cunning sparrow yes but only the cosmetics at the same tier of package and lower
mental night
Not exactly what I was asking about but it clarifys one aspect.@simple ether
crystal beacon
@mental night we currently have very little info on summoner atm, what we do know (everything we do know) you can find on the wiki
mental night
Okay thanks for the information @simple ether @crystal beacon
maiden sapphire
Is their a grand story to immerse ones self in that isnt node only specific?
pastel osprey
has there been any news on racial bonuses? would like to decide on a race if I can
steady ocean
There is lore leading up to current day yes
pastel osprey
wow ur fast thanks
maiden sapphire
Woo
agile quartz
[Q] will questions frequently asked in this channel be moved over to faq or something like that with the answer below it so people can find it easier and not ask that particular question?
crystal beacon
Fastest fingers in the west, this guy
steady ocean
Most of the questions asked here can usually be found quite easy on sites like ashes101 or the wiki
agile quartz
ahh okay, thanks!
ebon star
an those sites have search functions
ebon star
the 8 base classes
pastel osprey
oh shit poggers
steel lily
I know in WoW a tank spec usually sucks in pvp. As a tank spec you usually have a hard time dealing damage in pvp encounters, which is why they allow you to change between dps and tank. From what I know you can’t change your primary (Tank) but you can your secondary. Will tanks still be able to stand their ground in duels?
steady ocean
Secondary unlocks will come with Alpha 2 I believe
junior sky
I believe it was said to be relatively hard to change your secondary class or there is a cooldown to it. I am not entirely sure. I don't think it will be as easy as in WoW tho
ebon star
@steel lily we dont know how strong any of the classes are yet and how they play
crystal beacon
@steel lily PvP is balanced around groups and not 1v1 so I imagine you’ll likely still feel some of that in that regard but they should have control abilities that make up for it in group play. Theoretically.
pastel osprey
idk whatever game i've played tanks are usually pretty strong still in 1v1s
steel lily
Makes sense, cause I love playing a tank and was thinking whether I want to go tank primary or secondary. I’m looking forward to finding out more about that information towards the future
pastel osprey
u have to go tank primary
if you want to play tank
secondary class augments skills for primary class
steel lily
You can still off tank dungeons tho as a tank secondary
crystal drum
Makes sense, cause I love playing a tank and was thinking whether I want to go tank primary or secondary. I’m looking forward to finding out more about that information towards the future
@steel lily You should go tank first if you want to get the best out of propper tanking. I believe you will get more agro abilities if you go tank first than if you go tank second
hasty osprey
Will there be a "follow" option in game? Like can you set your character on follow of another person so you can AFK?
steady ocean
That’s hard to say without seeing the abilities in full, and no @hasty osprey
simple pecan
From what we know, it looks like there will be a severe scarcity of tanks and healers since you can't swap primary class, and most people will go DPS for primary, making them unable to perform other roles properly.
onyx knoll
I think you underestimate how many people like playing tanks/healers
pastel osprey
yea idk tank augments aren't out yet, so unless tank augments give you aggro don't think you can offtank
as tank secondary
simple pecan
Few people like tanks, if we're taking other MMOs as reference. Always a large scarcity of tanks.,
steel lily
@crystal drum right I’m most likely going to do that
sage dagger
tanking is so fun
steel lily
^
onyx knoll
this game also has 1 tank for a group of 8, so you'll need 6 people playing dps for each single tank and healer
simple pecan
I'm personally considering Tank/Bard, but I do hope that those with tank as a secondary class will be able to perform the role when needed. That or some sort of ability to swap your secondary class to be primary at some cost.
cosmic comet
Tank-Tank is the only viable option
ebon star
@onyx knoll not every group requires every class
onyx knoll
you can't switch your primary
pastel osprey
nah that dilutes the tank primary role