or people already in the game who may know the answers
#questions
long tundra
boreal abyss
People in the community for the most part
slow meadow
there are many of us that have been here for a long time answering questions. devs sometimes also answer
long tundra
ok awesome
digital yacht
unless its yellow (tbf even if yellow cuz its so early) take everything said he as TBD info or Subjec tto change 🙂
pallid swallow
Are classes gonna have like rotations for abilites? Something like WoW or FFXIV instead of just like smashing buttons?
Like a thought process to why you would use certain abilities?
mint plover
is there any list for spec requirements to run the game at a decent level?
boreal abyss
@mint plover No
but they have said that they are aiming for "tech 5 years back in time at time of release" before
digital yacht
@dark jungle need a command for !wiki (Insert here) to give info faster 🙂
mint plover
oh hell yea, i can run it
dark jungle
ikr
long tundra
well then, i grew up playing the old mmo Asheron's Call if anyone is familiar with it. Part of that game that i haven't seen in any other game yet was two things, the dev ran live events and the changing seasons. 1. Dev ran live events - pretty much there were monthly live events (random town gets attacked for example) where devs would control npc/bosses. It added a very interested unexpected surprise to the game. 2. changing seasons, winter had snow on the ground. Summer had rainy days. Fall had brown grass, for examples. Are there plans for functions like these or possibly the game already has them implemented?
dark jungle
we need to pray to the sandal lord for that 🙏
digital yacht
@long tundra yes
to both
@long tundra we have changing seasons
and they plan on events
rocky bear
seasons are supposed to rotate every week, so 1 year in real life its like 1month in the game
stable plover
(The dev run events aren't planned for immediate launch, but sometime a bit after- The tech already exists now though)
boreal abyss
@long tundra both are planned
PvE Sieges on cities can happen at times
(Playuers can take control of some monsters and join attacking side via items called Monster Coins)
And seasons will change (every week)
mint plover
also, how much is it for playing the alpha?
boreal abyss
Alpha 2 is at min 250$
digital yacht
250 at the cheapest to get into Alpha 2
boreal abyss
Alpha 1 cannot be bought atm
(they might sell it later on if they need more testers)
mint plover
so, how does it work with "alpha 1" "alpha 2"
long tundra
thanks for the quick responses. This game sounds amazing, i truly hope it has success
boreal abyss
we all do 🙂
Alpha 1 is short periods of testing
Alpha 2 is continuous testing with servers open 24/7
digital yacht
@mint plover alpha 1 starts in the next few months Alpha 2 has no date but will come after Alpha 1
mint plover
so if I pay for alpha 1 I also get access to alpha 2?
digital yacht
yes but u cant buy alpha 1 atm
craggy harness
Hey guys, my question is: It says purple players have half death mechanics than green players. Does this stay the same for non-pvp deaths?
rocky bear
and also beta acces
digital yacht
@craggy harness that is the plan
digital yacht
^ for many reasons >.<
craggy harness
hmm that's interesting, so it would encourage people to stay in Purple mode
Even if they don't want to pvp
long tundra
one more question. Will there be "pvp" servers where anyone can be attacked at any time? and what are the penalties/benefits from dying/killing someone?
rocky bear
all are pvp servers
boreal abyss
all servers yo ucan get attacked at any times
desert ivy
Yeah, all servers are the same type
boreal abyss
for info regarding the last part, look at the wiki 🙂
woven vale
@boreal abyss Isn't spawn the only 'safe zone'?
boreal abyss
No
woven vale
Or is spawn also open game?
boreal abyss
Only your own Freehold is "safe zone"
slow meadow
in your apartment and on your freehold are the only safe spaces
storm raptor
the city is pvp zone too
woven vale
Damn, didn't know that, ty.
long tundra
do you loose items when you die?
boreal abyss
Resources and processed goods yes
digital yacht
@long tundra yes mats and resources when Green or purple and gear if u are Red
boreal abyss
if corrupt (red), then you have a chance to drop crafted goods/equipment
digital yacht
its all percent change tho
stable plover
There are things like city guards to help out people that get attacked / an anti-griefing system in corruption for people who attack ppl that want to avoid pvp
rocky bear
@craggy harness if someone attacks you and you dont fight back, even if the other person kills you, you wont convrt into a combatant
digital yacht
but u lose more resources which encourage to fight back
long tundra
I am used to playing red (asherons call again) where you loose the 11 most valuable items in your inventory each time. What are the benefits of being Green, purple or red like you sid?
long tundra
@boreal abyss do you get bonus benefits for playing as the higher colors?
crystal beacon
Will there be trial for like first x levels, since i am EU and don't wanna play under my.com publishment i would like to test ping and playablity
digital yacht
@long tundra no REd is bad
hallow crest
Hi, does someone know if there's gonna be different ways of cancelling skill animations by things like dodging, weaponstowing, weaponswapping etc?
digital yacht
@crystal beacon unfortunately no
crystal beacon
😦
digital yacht
@hallow crest TBD but i think so
slow meadow
@crystal beacon but you can just pay the $15 sub and if you don't like the ping that would be your only investment since there is no box cost.
boreal abyss
Green - Good: People will get corrupt if they kill you, Bad: You lose way more stuff
Purple - Good: You lose less stuff on death, Bad: People can freely attack you
Red - Good: Nothing, Bad: You might lose gear on death
craggy harness
Does anyone know how bounty hunter will work for hunting red players? Like will there be a physical location/NPC to initiate bounty hunting, or will it be a menu item that can be accessed from anywhere?
digital yacht
Phyiscal quests
stable plover
@hallow crest Animation cancelling will not be a combat mechanic
hallow crest
awww man 😦
crystal beacon
@slow meadow in a country of 400$ salary per month 15 is waste no an investment 😄
craggy harness
@stable plover will invincibility frames be a mechanic? like dodge rolling?
boreal abyss
@craggy harness you get a title from a physical location, which yuou can turn on any time as far as I know
maiden blaze
@boreal abyss you also do less damage to non-combatants when corrupted
pallid swallow
Are classes gonna have like rotations for abilites? Something like WoW or FFXIV instead of just like smashing buttons? Like a thought process to why you would use certain abilities?
digital yacht
dont think so
crystal beacon
yeah are spells on GCD?
craggy harness
Since de-levelling is not a thing, and only EXP loss/gear loss - what is in place to stop players from trading their items and gear to a mule when they're corrupted, then suiciding till they're green again?
digital yacht
@pallid swallow u have casting animations and such
craggy harness
If they're max level
boreal abyss
@pallid swallow rotation of abilities will depend on yourself and what you want to achieve with them
digital yacht
@craggy harness u lose XP/ which lowers ur stats
craggy harness
@digital yacht but what if I'm max level
digital yacht
cuz u can in a sense delevel but u will stay level 50 but have stats of a level 45
boreal abyss
@craggy harness XP debt, which means, that even if you cannot lose level
You can still become as weak as a Lv 40 while being Lv 50
craggy harness
Oh I see
stable plover
@craggy harness Q: Will there be evade frames/ I-frames on dodge?
A: "I would say it's a safe bet with regards to how we're approaching the hybrid combat that not only are gonna have true evasion skills that apply to more action-oriented skills that are coming your way, but you'll also have you know I-frame type skills that would apply perhaps to a tab targetable skills coming your way. So I think you're gonna have a healthy balance of both with it when it comes to skills that you can spec into." – Steven Sharif
boreal abyss
@craggy harness its basically the same, without the system mechanics of "deleveling" which can cause issues when clashing with other systems
hence why they just removed it from the equation
craggy harness
@boreal abyss so essentially I will still have the skills available at lvl 50 but my attributes (strength, dex, endurance etc.) that might affect the damage of auto attacks or skills, will decrease?
boreal abyss
The more XP debt you have, the more "debuffed" you become yes
hallow crest
So there's not gonna be animation cancelling, but will there be a way of canceling a skill after you started casting it?
boreal abyss
be it stats, gear proficiency etc
craggy harness
Like say I get a fireball spell from lvl 50 mage, I can still use that when I have exp debt?
or I need to clear debt to use that spell
boreal abyss
yes, but it does less dmg depending on how much XP debt you have
craggy harness
Ok thanks
livid sluice
can I put equipment on my summons or pets?
sick eagle
<@&256789677930053632> Is there a place I may put a list of statements made my steven about the game from the AMA?
crystal beacon
Mounts yes, so pets probably. Summons likely not
livid sluice
or would that make summoner too versatile?
still wyvern
@sick eagle You can try the forums for that, brah
craggy harness
Following on from that: Do we know if CC is also influenced by our attributes? So if I have EXP debt, will my stun durations be lower?
sick eagle
Roger
long tundra
how is the loot stats in AoC? is there a random loot generator or is it set stats like in WoW?
still wyvern
Generally a good place for putting your opinions and having them not be lost. Discord wouldn't be recommended as it's easy to lose statements.
boreal abyss
@craggy harness unknown
crystal beacon
Well, summoner pets likely don't leave a corpse to loot, so if you could give them gear, you'd lose it when they died.
stable plover
@sick eagle There's not an 'official' place that needs to go, if you say made a transcription it could go on community media, Shaze normally does one that appears on ashespost and the wiki often keeps them
pallid swallow
Is there going be something similar to like mythic + in wow? Not necessarily an exact copy, but something end game that scales and can get more challenging to keep players engaged and pushing to challenge their skills as a player.
slow sky
they will not scale encounters they've said
they will have difficult content that will reflect an acheivement of effort to overcome
crystal beacon
As far as we understand it now, all dungeons/raids will have bosses with dynamic difficulty/behaviors depending solely on your performance on bosses before it
pallid swallow
What is going to keep player coming back though to do the same content over and over
crystal beacon
But no direct mythic analogue in terms of overall number scaling
slow meadow
there will also be leaderboards for you to compete on.
polar zephyr
im kinda curious how open dungeons are gonna function, like whats gonna happen if say 6 groups of 8 run into the same dungeon at the same time. they would all be in the same boss room then or how does that work?
crystal beacon
They would, yes.
livid sluice
will griefing be fun?
crystal beacon
That's... a very subjective question.
slow meadow
@pallid swallow you will need resources from that content for quests generated by the nodes and other systems. the interconnected systems keep content relevant
low forge
griefing is always fun, punishment is i'd say pretty severe though
alpine copper
As a tamer, if you successfully tame a wild animal, like a bear for example, can you immediately use it as your mount or do you still need to train it before being able to ride it? Also how does taming actually work? Is it a mini game or do you need a specific item, like a fish for taming a bear?
crystal beacon
We don't really have that sort of specific information yet.
stable plover
@pallid swallow loot is one of the more likely answers -> Gear can be over enchanted (consuming multiples of the same piece), and gear requires mats of the same quality (aka from raid bosses for raid gear) to repair the gear
livid sluice
can I get around the punishment by having mobs kill them?
junior sky
Does that mean when you as the group leader with a relatively high difficulty rating group up with a bunch of newbies having a low difficulty rating, the boss difficulty will end up going after your rating as the group leader or the average of your whole party combined?
craggy harness
Does currency count as resources? E.g do you drop coins on death? Also what else counts as a "resource" just raw materials? or are stage 2 materials (smelted bars etc.) also materials? What about gear we're carrying, does that drop?
boreal abyss
@livid sluice most likely not
crystal beacon
@junior sky It depends on the performance of the group in that moment
digital yacht
@craggy harness completed Gear only drops if ur red
boreal abyss
@craggy harness no you wont drop gold (currency)
slow meadow
@livid sluice that seems unlikely since you can't see their exact health. not to mention they may eventually tune it so that if you do X amount of damage and a player dies that you still get corruption. the system isnt final and will be dialed in during testing.
junior sky
oh I see. So it's gonna start with a difficulty history and adjusts going further into the dungeon?!
boreal abyss
smelted bars count as "processed goods" aka resource yes
stable plover
@craggy harness you don't drop gold on death, normally people are talking about raw gatherables which are what players drop, processables have been mentioned as lootable from node sieges
crystal beacon
@junior sky Your "rating" won't matter, it solely depends on how you do on that run.
pallid swallow
but will you be able to just steamroll content you have already done to get those resources or will it be a challenge each time you do it?
craggy harness
@digital yacht so will there be a way to disassemble gear back into the raw resource? If so - what is stopping me from transporting a bunch of armor/weapons, which I won't drop, then disassembling back into raw materials?
ivory geyser
Hello, How many profession jobs are there in game?
polar zephyr
@pallid swallow the faster you do a dungeon the better the gear, so yes, you can keep getting better stuff.
boreal abyss
@stable plover Processed Goods (like melted ingots) have been mentioned to drop on death from player inv
polar zephyr
the less time in between the bosses the better the loot is gonna be on the next boss.
stable plover
@craggy harness You have to transport the raw materials to get them into a finished state, but otherwise I expect long term storage to mainly be in the form of completed gear - there is gear salvaging
crystal beacon
@junior sky I.E. Theoretically the first boss would always be the same, but the next boss would have 1 of 3 potential behavior patterns depending on how efficiently you kill the first boss, continuing on throughout the rest of the dungeon
junior sky
That makes sense. I like it
crystal beacon
@polar zephyr I don't believe trash clear speed is going to effect the algorithm very much to prevent class stacking on AoE abilities.
junior sky
Does the boss difficulty affect the loot's grade?
crystal beacon
Yep
digital yacht
@craggy harness bc in most cases when u salvage gear u dont get back all the resources u used
polar zephyr
yes
@crystal beacon i misheard that then, so its just the boss kill speed and not the trash kill speed?
crystal beacon
Kill speed was just the metric posed by Asmongold, Steven strongly implied there are a number of metrics involved.
polar zephyr
alright
im kinda curious how open dungeons are gonna function, like whats gonna happen if say 6 groups of 8 run into the same dungeon at the same time. they would all be in the same boss room then or how does that work?
anyone has any clue on that?
slow meadow
only one of them is going to get kill credit so probably going to have to fight each other if they are in the same area.
craggy harness
@digital yacht but still, if I wanted to do a no-risk transportation of materials from one city to another, I could fill up my bag with weapons/armor, run them to the next city, salvage them all. It wouldn't be as efficient as transporting the raw mats, but less risk since I wouldn't drop them - is that the case?
crystal beacon
@polar zephyr Yes, they would all be in the same boss room.
polar zephyr
if thats the case @slow meadow then it'll be easy to get multiple groups in to kill the same boss to get crazy high loot on the next.
digital yacht
@craggy harness technically yes
junior sky
from what I heard it's 80% open world and 20% instanced content and I wouldn't be surprised if dungeon bosses were instanced content
digital yacht
they are open @junior sky atlest some are
crystal beacon
The "instanced content" is predominately story content, most dungeons and raids will be open world.
slow meadow
@polar zephyr I would assume the metrics gathered for your performance are not going to incude the other groups. those aren't your numbers so they wouldn't impact your bonuses.
crystal beacon
Again, kill speed is likely only one of the metrics.
polar zephyr
it'll be pretty weird to get good gear from dungeons if you have to hope no other group is gonna do that dungeon aswell
buoyant heart
How is intrepid gonna stop from a few big guilds contesting/farming dungeons. Not allowing smaller guilds or pugs to clear content.
digital yacht
they would have to risk flagging to kill those other players
polar zephyr
as someone whos big on dungeons with a team i would hate to fight other players to even do any dungeon
slow meadow
@polar zephyr it creates competition and soft friction in the game for emergent pvp content. You have to fight the world and others for the rewards hence PvX
buoyant heart
But what if the people who you attack don't fight back, don't you get corrupted?
boreal abyss
there will be some instanced dungeons @polar zephyr
crystal beacon
@polar zephyr Just kill your competition
stable plover
@buoyant heart The dungeons aren't PvP areas, so they'd rack up corruption just continuing to attack random people
gritty crane
Do we know the cost of the monthly subscription ?
slow meadow
$15 us
crystal beacon
Would a 2070 be able to run this game smoothly on max settings?
polar zephyr
thing is, its gonna end up with the better group being in the corner, waiting for the shitty group to come back
stable plover
@gritty crane 15$ month (for US/EU/OCE servers)
gritty crane
15 usd ?
is that 15 EUR or maybe 12 ? is there scaling
polar zephyr
and whenever they almost got the boss down they'll get cleaved down by the better team again
gritty crane
I mean, 15 EUR / month isn't cheap
crystal beacon
We don't have answers on price harmonizing yet
polar zephyr
and it'll be a stale boss that wont die cuz neither team will go on killing it
livid sluice
as a summoner what would the power ranges of the summons be? Would it be scaled by the level of you rcharacter?
craggy harness
How is loot distributed in dungeons? Do we all get a participation award, or is it most damage receives all loot?
crystal beacon
Neither. The mob drops items, the group chooses how to distribute them.
polar zephyr
@craggy harness no participation trophies here.
buoyant heart
@buoyant heart The dungeons aren't PvP areas, so they'd rack up corruption just continuing to attack random people
@stable plover So isn't a big red flag? If a group goes to clear and another group to contest. But when they attack and the group who initiated the fight doesn't fight back. You a) don't get the tag b) get corrupted?
slow sky
loot master/dungeon leader decides how loot distributes
craggy harness
So it's a free for all on loot drops?
boreal abyss
@craggy harness undecided how "which group gets the loot" is going to be yet
polar zephyr
read above
crystal beacon
Would a 2070 be able to run this game smoothly on max settings?
can someone answer this pls
stable plover
@gritty crane We don't have confirmation on what they'll do for currency conversion on that, when my.com's pricing first launched it was the equivalent to 1pre-order pack prices after currency conversion as I recall (I think it's drifted apart a bit with currency fluxuation)
crystal beacon
The group leader will have multiple options for loot rules.
craggy harness
Ok but what if I'm a solo player and I kill a boss that another solo player is trying to kill
how is the loot determined then
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon We don't really know the exact spec requirements yet.
Oh ok, thanks.
polar zephyr
damage values @craggy harness
boreal abyss
@craggy harness as I said, undecided as of now
stable plover
@buoyant heart If someone attacks and kills someone in a dungeon that isn't flagged for pvp, at least the person who got the killing blow ends up with corruption, people that buff/heal them could also get corruption depending on how they have their toggles set to help corrupt players or not (default no help to the corrupt)
slow sky
@craggy harness whoever does more damage based on a percentage and tagging the mob makes it an easier task to win the loot contest
digital yacht
!cs Specs @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
On today's Q&A Steven said that the tagger would get a bonus to his "damage dealt" metric, and then loot would be distributed based on damage dealt.
digital yacht
REEE
boreal abyss
he mentioned those as examples, seemed like nothing was fully set in stone yet V
crystal beacon
digital yacht
a bot that links forum posts
digital yacht
didnt work tho
crystal beacon
Yeah, bots have been weird today
slow meadow
@boreal abyss you are correct. that is their starting point. all things loot related are still up for testing and change.
buoyant heart
So basically open world dungeons is just gonna be a queue then? I can imagine not many people want to get corrupted so they wont initiate an attack and people who initiated don't want to pvp so they don't attack back.
digital yacht
MAN everything in this game is still up for testing and change 😂
slow sky
^^
crystal beacon
In reality almost every single question should be answered with a "this is subject to change" rider but that gets old to type out every time lol
digital yacht
@buoyant heart there is no Dungeon Finder to Queue into
buoyant heart
No, that
polar zephyr
@buoyant heart there is no queue.
buoyant heart
Not a queue in that sense
polar zephyr
you find people in the world or guild to do it with
digital yacht
@crystal beacon maybe ill just copy past that LOL
buoyant heart
A literal queue of people
crystal beacon
@buoyant heart In many games with open world dungeons, people wait their turn instead of fighting over them, yes.
buoyant heart
That sounds aweful
crystal beacon
Is there a way to become green again after becoming red (corrupted)?
desert ivy
Die 
digital yacht
@crystal beacon yes dying or doing specific quests
crystal beacon
If you don't want to wait, you fight.
pseudo musk
i have a pvp question: is there a CC lock cap? or can people just spam knockdowns over and over again? i havent seen the skill vartieys or anything
slow sky
die or grind out exp debt
digital yacht
dying is a bad way to go out tho
rapid crater
just kill them and win the grind spot lol
buoyant heart
Yes okay but if you fight, and they dont fight back you get corrupted?
digital yacht
@pseudo musk diminishing returns on CC
crystal beacon
@pseudo musk There are diminishing returns
buoyant heart
That's my whole point
digital yacht
no CC lockdowns
crystal beacon
Wait does dying reset all of your progress?
@buoyant heart Yes, and you get the spot
wicked heath
no
digital yacht
@crystal beacon no
slow sky
no
rapid crater
you get a bit corrupted and then you reset your corruption killing the monsters in that grind spot
crystal beacon
Thank god
digital yacht
u lose Xp and Gear if Red
crystal beacon
@buoyant heart If you on't want to risk it, wait or go somewhere else.
wicked heath
when you die you lose some of the raw mats on you, and gain an xp debt
buoyant heart
I don't get it, that seems extremely flawed
buoyant heart
Ah okay
rapid crater
which is why you are there in the first place
wheat kayak
I assume you cant get the kickstarter rewards anymore?
digital yacht
@wheat kayak no
crystal beacon
Correct.
slow sky
nope
crystal beacon
Where is all of this information? Are there blogs and stuff?
wheat kayak
ty
crystal beacon
Videos, wikis, etc
digital yacht
ashesofcreation.wiki
wicked heath
Wiki and Jahlon's videos
polar zephyr
games been multiple years old aswell
slow sky
collected information over the years from dev streams videos etc
crystal beacon
polar zephyr
its not like its started today
digital yacht
crystal beacon
Thanks
polar zephyr
so ppl kept up
rapid crater
there's a lot of this info in the one hour asmongold interview
stable plover
@crystal beacon ashesofcreation.wiki -> it links the sources
crystal beacon
First stop would be LazyPeon's video imo, he did a great job
With the basics
Is it official?
digital yacht
@pure canopy no\
@crystal beacon no
there is no official wikis
its all cited tho
stable plover
@crystal beacon it's not official, community run, but everything on it is stuff from the devs
digital yacht
everyting is subject to change
thorn wing
So i love the idea of no box cost. thank for for that. i bought WoW and learned i didn't like it but now i can't return it. But with AoC will the subscription price ever change? like a dollar or 2 higher to be able to afford making a more bigger expansion on time. or even lower to like $12 a month for special offers to incentivize new players. just curious
crystal beacon
Ok, thanks for helping guys!
digital yacht
@thorn wing no
crystal beacon
We have no way of knowing that, but not likely.
wicked heath
@thorn wing the sub cost will stay the same
digital yacht
@thorn wing they might introduce bundles like pay for 6months and get ssub for 13.99 x 6
stable plover
@thorn wing There might be promotions (like say get a discount by buying x months), but nothing confirmed on that
digital yacht
but nothing confirmed as of yet
crystal beacon
I just regret that I didn't get in to get lifetime sub lol
slow sky
if anything to incentivize new players i could see a time limited free trial period being available
thorn wing
alright
digital yacht
@slow sky doubt it
slow sky
like a free trial weekend
polar zephyr
i mean why would it be
polar zephyr
its 15 euros a month and you dont pay for the actual game.
pay 15 euro, try it, like or hate its just 15
stable plover
(One of the ideas I heard that I liked was free trial servers separate from the normal servers -> but they don't want free trial people messing with server economies and such)
digital yacht
bc that leads to botters
crystal beacon
^
wheat kayak
will the kickstarter rewards return at any given time?
digital yacht
no
wheat kayak
probaply not right?
slow sky
no
polar zephyr
if you wanted the kickstarter rewards you had the chance back then 😛
stable plover
A1 keys might return if that's the part your interested in
thorn wing
So WoW has the problem of new expansions bringing higher resolution items in game. so you have low polygon and high poly mounts and armour. will this be the case with AoC added content as the game grows? or will it all be brought up to scale with the new stuff?
wheat kayak
didn't know back then xD
slow sky
if something on kickstarter says "kickstarter exclusive" pray for a time machine
digital yacht
@thorn wing no info on that yet
wheat kayak
just do another kickstarter 😛 @slow sky
wicked heath
@thorn wing We wont know until the game launches and xpacs come out lol, that seems like a natural process unless the devs re-do every single graphic
slow sky
that wouldnt stop the packs and items being legally held to the first KS
wheat kayak
true
storm urchin
Question. From reading through the wiki, it seems that while you can partake in all Artisan classes (Gathering, Processing, and Crafting), you may only master one of the three. But if you were say a Master Crafter, you could potentially master all of the crafting sub disciplines. Is my understanding correct?
slow sky
so i can be a Master armorsmith/weaponsmith then?
digital yacht
U can be a master Crafter
and all those are under Crafter
is what it sounds like when they say master one of the 3
junior sky
When buying the voyager plus pre-order pack, does the 9 months of game time start with the release of the game or do Alpha Two and Beta One/Two use up some of it?
storm urchin
So you don't get experience for Armorer, but instead for Crafter, which covers all crafts?
digital yacht
starts on release yes @junior sky
crystal beacon
Only starts at release
junior sky
aight
crystal beacon
I believe you level up the crafts separately @storm urchin
digital yacht
@storm urchin u might get "xp" to level up each craft but can max that whole spectrum of trees under the crafting section
we havnet seen the systems so its hard to say what it looks like and how it works
storm urchin
That makes more sense. It just feels weird that you can become a master crafter in all crafting disciplines, but can only be a beginner in processing or gathering.
True.
digital yacht
no1 said u could only get to beginner tho
they just said u couldnt master them all
junior sky
Are people allowed to use the AOC Soundtracks in videos and streams?
digital yacht
@stable plover do u know this ^
thorn wing
So if servers hold on average 8K-10K and i'm gonna expect... over a million right off the bat. how many servers will there be?
stable plover
@junior sky @digital yacht My understanding is that's licensed music, one could presumably also acquire the license
slow sky
we'll let you know when Headstart starts
junior sky
I see. That's unfortunate
digital yacht
Headstart will noly have 3 servers
thorn wing
but they said they didn't want so many that some become under populated and they have to merge servers
slow sky
yeah but we should still see all servers 3 days from launch
digital yacht
2 days
slow sky
even though we can only pick 3
stable plover
<- Not a lawyer -Just an observation: I don't think anyone has been dinged for using the music in say reacting to Intrepid's videos, but maybe don't go making a minecraft channel that uses it without finding the rights holders
thorn wing
so how many servers can you be in and how many alts can you have? and how does loot and stuff between alts work?
junior sky
I believe it is different to use it in context with AOC since AOC holds rights to use it ingame and monetize at least partially off of it and a whole different matter when it comes to using it in a totally unrelated context
I, however, am not a lawyer either so no guarantees :D
digital yacht
@thorn wing a comfortable amounbt we dont have exact number of alts
junior sky
Are Alpha and Beta reserved to pre-order package buyers or will they be giving out keys/access via giveaways and such?
digital yacht
@thorn wing u can join as many servers as u want but ur character wont go from server to server needs to be a new char
@junior sky beta keys will be given out later down the line but most is from buying
thorn wing
got it. and i take it housing is also per server?
crystal beacon
There will be some giveaways through content creators and other such things, but yeah, mostly buy-in
Freeholds are one per acc, houses/apartments one per server
digital yacht
@thorn wing freehold is Account based
junior sky
thank you very much
thorn wing
so my freehold will move across servers?
stable plover
@thorn wing can't be on both EU/US servers, a 'comforatable' number of alts per server, can be in multiple servers - only 1 in node house and 1 apartment per server, 1 freehold per account - there's an account inventory for stuff like transfering cosmetics between characters, your characters will all have access to your storage in say your freehold, some sort of stash to share completed gear with your other characters, but they have to go to the location where your other character left it for things like raw materials
shy storm
can someone tell me what the difference between a blacksmith, a weaponsmith and an armorsmith is?
digital yacht
@shy storm Blacksmith is tools ya
slow sky
@shy storm Tools ,weapons, armors
shy storm
oh thats interesting
thorn wing
if i choose to put my freehold in a server, can i ever move it to another by tearing it down or something?
junior sky
Is it possible to play on US servers whenever you live in the EU? I would love to play with friends from the US, I can see why AOC would region lock servers tho
digital yacht
yes
stable plover
@shy storm It's possible blacksmiths don't exist and were just a misspeak at some point, but the wiki can't tell the difference if the devs used blacksmith to just refer to armor and weapon smiths - We don't have an official professions list
digital yacht
no region locked
real parrot
will there be eastern foods and drinks like sake ,sushi XD i know random question
but weeebs need to eat!!!
digital yacht
@real parrot there will be foods, but dont know to what extent
real parrot
lol cosmetics for food and drinks XD
junior sky
In Stevens interview with Asmongold* he specifically said there was blacksmiths, armorsmiths and weaponsmiths I believe. I figured armor- and weaponsmiths are obviously for armor and weapons while normal blacksmiths are meant to craft tools like pickaxes, hammers, hoofs for horses etc
digital yacht
if thats the case and we have all 3 then u are presumably correct
but we have no official list of what they make
shy storm
that makes sense to me tbh
junior sky
Do we have an official release date for the Alpha 1?
digital yacht
no
just fall 2020
they are doing rolling invites leading up to the lowest tier alpha 1 backers
craggy harness
Will they have doing open stress tests?
rain lynx
Could there be an enchanting profession or what will happen with enchantments
digital yacht
tepid nacelle
Hey guys! Is it best to post a question here or on reddit ama? it's one that can only be awnsered by dev's presumably
tepid nacelle
yeah but reddit is still there so
digital yacht
devs tend to poke in here from time to time
sturdy seal
Hey, heard in the livestream today that there will be cosmetic microtransactions, but the answer given did not give much comfort. If how I understood it is correctly, we'll end up having to buy cosmetics on top of the subscription fee to look how we want? Sure, there is also "legendary" cosmetics rewarded for gameplay, but that doesn't help much if half the cool stuff is from microtransactions...
tepid nacelle
the in game shop is not mandatory at all.
digital yacht
@sturdy seal yes like any other game this game has a COSMETICS only cash shop
which is not mandatory
crystal beacon
In that livestream answer Steven tried to make it very clear there will be legendary cosmetics achieveable wholly in-game
sturdy seal
but cosmetics is half the fun in mmos 😦
digital yacht
then get grinding for those legendaries
tepid nacelle
He said the legendary cosmetics will be on par and equal to the store cosmetics, but tied behind a very long grind, Which imo makes them way cooler!
junior sky
Microtransactions are a great way of insuring a consistent income to further develop the game and it's expansions. There is gonna be cosmetics in the store but from what Steven said you can assume just as many if not more cosmetic items as quest rewards and such
sturdy seal
but that means a certain % of cosmetics is locked behind pay walls? Not saying you can't get cool cosmetics without paying, but a % of them is locked?
digital yacht
yes
desert ivy
Yes, a certain amount will be locked in the shop
sturdy seal
I'd much rather pay a higher subscription fee and not have content locked behind pay gates
digital yacht
its just cosmetics its not content
junior sky
Imo the grind for legendary cosmetics gives them a certain amount of exclusivity which makes them all the more desirable
sturdy seal
cosmetic = content
digital yacht
thats the model they shose it wont be changed
tepid nacelle
well its not content yeah its just purcahsed cosmetics
the content for in game cosmetics is still there
sturdy seal
yeah, that's fair, just wanted to see if I understood this correctly. I think it's a shame, but that's me.
digital yacht
@sturdy seal name 1 MMO that has every cosmetic reward earnable in game
that isnt locked in a cash shop
.< u cant
crystal beacon
That's just how MMOs are nowadays sadly. That's the way the industry evolved.
sturdy seal
old school runescape comes to mind
crystal beacon
I agree it's far from ideal.
digital yacht
@sturdy seal but thats from 2007 :/ but true
tepid nacelle
the only mandatory payment is the subscription so i believe it's fair in that regard
but i also agree it's still sad
sturdy seal
and if we speak about "locked", then gw2 doesn't have their cash shop locked. you can buy it with in-game currency
digital yacht
that leads to RMT tho
crystal beacon
Not directly, really. You can have premium currency purchasable with in-game currency and not allow premium items to be traded.
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
sturdy seal
👍
storm urchin
Do we have any idea how exclusive freeholds will be? Say if I'm an active player and want to build one near a strong node, will I be likely to be able to? Or will they be more rare enough that you have to be quick or lucky to get one?
whole dawn
freeholds are something that players make
you dont find them
or am i wrong?
theyre 1 per account
so if you have 3 profiles, 2 of your profiles wont have freeholds
woven laurel
For KS backers how long do we have to upgrade our packages ?
storm urchin
Like I know that we create them and they're limited to one per account, but they're also limited by space near nodes, right?
tepid nacelle
You can't keep the same freehold i believe and they get freed up dependant on node changes i think, But once its gone you get a saved copy of your house. so fairly exclusive but not impossible (apologies for notknowing all details)
cant keep the same freehold spot forever*
crystal beacon
You can certainly keep the same freehold spot forever if it is never destroyed
In fact I think you'll only lose them if the parent node is destroyed and people go out of their way to come knock it down.
strange raft
From a content creator's perspective, does the Intrepid team have plans to provide different assets to help support the production of content. Such as downloadable art packages, or tools like 'wowmodelviewer' ?
crystal beacon
After the two hour period of open combat following a successful node siege, any remaining freeholds will exist under a grace period for roughly 1 week where another node may take over the zone of influence of the freehold.
storm urchin
Or if another node doesn't take over ZOI ownership within a week.
hidden crane
@strange raft The current CC program already has art packages with downloadable media assets
jaunty venture
Hey guys, if I have a question for the Devs should I pop it in here?
buoyant carbon
Is there any official date for release?
full badger
@jaunty venture Ask and if we know the answer we'll tell you
Is there any official date for release?
@buoyant carbon No release date yet
desert ivy
For it to be 4 years something will have to go massively wrong
jaunty venture
I've been playing MMOs for 20 years now.
been on FFXIV for years since launch.
My favourite bit is the primal fights.
Small group, go into a arena and fight a boss with crazy hard mechanics.
Is there something like this in ashes? I really hope so!
desert ivy
Yes, but the game has already been in development for years, it hasn't just started
crystal beacon
@jaunty venture There currently is not any small-scale instanced PvE type content planned that I've heard/seen.
full badger
@jaunty venture There is nothing exactly like that announced
jaunty venture
I hope there will be I guess.
desert ivy
I'd bet money that it wouldn't take 4 years
buoyant carbon
Is wiki the most helpful site to learn this game so far?
desert ivy
but 
crystal beacon
By far, yes @buoyant carbon
whole dawn
betas are basically the finished game
full badger
btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions
whole dawn
just polishing
quiet trench
They wouldnt be running such marketing campaign if it was four years away
crystal beacon
https://www.ashes101.com/ is good as well
buoyant carbon
I see ty
storm urchin
I'd guess two to three years for launch, but it's just a guess.
strange raft
@hidden crane is there a link to the CC assets or is it something you have to apply for to gain access?
tough cedar
Some feedback from todays AMA, was suggested to post it here. Thanks!
steady ocean
Does anyone know if the devs have given permission to content creators to use sound bites/stream clips/game play content/icons for producing community content (in the form of stream discussions/youtube videos) without worry about copyright?
stable plover
@buoyant carbon wiki is the best if you want to know everything, ashes101 isn't terrible if you want a simple explanation version, Ashespost is good if you want a couple of bigger things processed for you (their lore article is the best) or want the best straight to the point transcripts
crystal beacon
@strange raft You have to apply, and I believe official CC applications are currently locked.
hidden crane
@strange raft they are exclusive to the CC program atm, sorry
buoyant carbon
@stable plover thank you
Is there any Aoc going on? Why people already recruiting to their guilds?
digital yacht
bc of previous games
crystal beacon
And people like having communities ready for when the game starts
minor elm
I played LOTRO back in 2012 but havent played an MMO since because I havent had the ability to pay for the subscriptions, am I going to be screwed whenever I try to play AOC without much MMO experience?
digital yacht
not really
tepid nacelle
How long will it take to repeat the same raid and get gear? for example it's 1 week in WoW before "reset day" where all boss lockouts are reset and you're eligible for loot again.
I'm wondering this for another question which may be to early to answer which is, If i wanted to skip a week of raiding to grind cosmetics or such how much would I get punished and am I able to catch up again?
buoyant carbon
How does subscription time works, is it like still ongoing even if not playing or play time based.
crystal beacon
@tepid nacelle We don't have an exact answer for that yet, since they likely aren't instanced it will depend on boss respawn time.
desert ivy
Your sub time will go down as soon as the game launches
It will go down even when you don't play
That's how it works in every MMORPG ever
minor elm
$180 dollars a year unless they decrease the price for yearly subcriptions
subscriptions
tepid nacelle
@crystal beacon I believe they confirmed indoors + outdoor bosses
iron python
Speaking of subscriptions, if I buy a bundle with gametime, will that gametime start when the game releases, even if I don't plan on playing until a few weeks late?
minor elm
yes
sullen wagon
@iron python I believe they said as soon as you log in the first time in game
primal anchor
Will there be a lore dump any time before release? I really like to get involved in the lore and even though MMOs are the greatest medium I like to know that stuff
sullen wagon
@primal anchor they said alpha will have little lore dump but the later beta will
To test the quest lines and such
primal anchor
Awesome, thanks!
sullen wagon
Steve said he wants lore to be a mystery as long as possible pretty much
forest pike
persistent alpha basically means until beta?
hazy matrix
So how exactly is server hosting done?
Do I have to pay for a region based sub fee or does my sub unlock all regions for me to play on??
crystal beacon
@tepid nacelle All I've heard about instances dungeons are:
Instanced dungeons will also be present and will cater for solo and group questlines.[7]
20% of dungeons will be instanced.
From the wiki
primal anchor
I guess that makes sense, since this wolrd is basically being created from zero. Unlike WoW which had plently of story leading up to the MMO
sullen wagon
Holy crap ninfosho u play tibia that's cool
hasty moss
@hazy matrix region based
forest pike
@sullen wagon yeah dude for 16 years
sullen wagon
Same man wow
forest pike
I'm still boob though
sullen wagon
@primal anchor if u watched today q n a he gives some lore
nocturne lichen
Has there been any say about release or how long the main story will take to complete?
hazy matrix
@hasty moss thats sad😢 - heard some stuff about that my Com company too
primal anchor
good to know, ill check the vods. love that stuff
sullen wagon
Its not much
hasty moss
@hazy matrix they went with my com because it was only publisher that gave them control over their product (no p2w)
minor elm
Did the QnA answer any questions about a lifetime subscription for a 1 time fee or any potential release years/dates?
buoyant carbon
Is it possible to be casual player without getting left behind
crystal beacon
@minor elm Lifetime was only available in kickstarter and there aren't currently any plans to change that
hasty moss
@minor elm lifetime sub was exclusive to KS only
sullen wagon
I would say no to that bosslady
crystal beacon
@minor elm No more news on release dates, nor will there be for quite awhile
sullen wagon
Every game no lifers will always have a advantage
hazy matrix
@hasty moss ahh gotcha, curious though how it would be to play on NA as Eu
tepid nacelle
@nocturne lichen you never really complete an MMORPG ideally
hasty moss
a very rough time frame to level to max level was 45 days with 4-6 hours a day playing
forest pike
How do you complete an ever changing world
junior sky
I don't think it's impossible to not be left behind as a casual play @buoyant carbon @sullen wagon
You will definitely not have as insane cosmetics or gear as some hardcore players but being a casual won't make you incredibly weak and left behind entirely
sullen wagon
@forest pike everyone has there own different end game
unreal zealot
lots and lots of paitence and hard work and pvp xD
junior sky
it also depends on what you want to focus on
minor elm
Damn I missed Kickstarter, I would’ve 100% bought it
brittle star
I am wondering how the combat will be for classes (archetypes) that are melee and when they can, pick their secondary archetype to something range.... For instance, a "Warden" is supposed to be a primary tank archetype with a ranger secondary archetype. Does this mean that the augments for the tank skills now can be used at ranged? And since it takes 45days to reach lvl 50, and if we estimate it takes 22.5days to reach the lvl25 where your second archetype is unlocked... how can we test out a playstyle that would be fun to play... if it takes forever just to test it out. If we don't like it we would have to make a new character as the first class choice can never be changed?
hasty moss
@brittle star the time frames given are very rough and we do not know how quickly someone could reach level 25, it could be that just the later levels take the longest time
hollow thicket
from what i hear you main class type cant change but u would be able to change ur secondary right?
hasty moss
yes
brittle star
Strig yes
storm raptor
if i remember correctly, you can change your second archetype, ofc not so fast as you need to do some quests before
brittle star
but since the primary class determines your skills that means you can't have ranged abilities on a melee class like tank... right?
nocturne lichen
I'm so excited, do y'all think the 75 pack is worth it?
main grotto
Have they ever said how the quests ARE? Like how do they play out compared to quests in other MMOs?
stark wyvern
Hello
What are you though about mayors election being rigged ?
BR = rigged by guild grouping and making one person survive and win.
Votes = Pay to get votes (or use connections between guild)
Money = Hold all funds of the guild on one person to be the highest bidder.
And what about if the mayor abuse his power, what can others do ?
hasty moss
@brittle star heavily depends on what your secondary would be and what abilities the tank might have, currently we do not have too much info on abilities and augments
unreal zealot
i mean in terms of votes and stuff thats just player politics at the end of the day
if they want to waste their goldfor 30 days mayor
hasty moss
@stark wyvern it will be more than one big guild in a metro, so it wont be so black and white as that
vapid loom
I will be mayor for 12 months because of my charisma
storm raptor
they will get a flying powerful mount with that gold @unreal zealot
crystal beacon
@stark wyvern That's just part of emergent gameplay really.
vapid loom
After that it’s jealous peeps overthrowing me
stark wyvern
Yea i guess
unreal zealot
@storm raptor well yeh but unless they are a fair mayor most people might just move to a different node instead and it needs to be a metro before they get the mount by then a huge ammount of players will be there invested in it and compete
vapid loom
Orc Mayor 1.0
brittle star
@hasty moss yeah the wiki says nothing on augments except for the one example of a movement ability being able to have slight change via an augment that is movement as well. my concern is since there is no information on augments.... we can't even speculate if the primary/secondary class choices will be interesting or unique.
stuck thorn
is there going to be ships and naval combat or deep sea fishing?
nocturne lichen
Can you buy yearly subscriptions? Will there be a public beta test?
timid tulip
will there be voice proximity chat
storm raptor
@stuck thorn im not sure about the deep sea fishing, but naval combat and bosses in the ocean, yeah theres going to be
hasty moss
@nocturne lichen no yearly atm, i would assume at launch there iwll be, and currently you can buy into beta
@timid tulip yes
@stuck thorn https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Naval
nocturne lichen
So that 75 package gets you in the game early?
ripe dawn
Will there be a way to make the items u make unique? Like will there be a, made by:
timid tulip
amazing
tulip hatch
There will not be voice proximity
only raid party and guild
hasty moss
@ripe dawn yes
timid tulip
OOOooff
crystal flax
75 gets you into beta 2, which we have no date for
ripe dawn
Thanks!
nocturne lichen
Ahhhhh okay
vast dirge
After watching the stream today, you were saying that multiboxing where any progression from 1 character is transferred to another is considered Pay 2 Win, but having essentially an alt isn't.
Will people using multiple accounts to farm materials at the same time using programs to cast the same spells at the same target etc be bannable?
And also I have concerns with having multiple accounts due to the ability to gain trust in other guilds / communities that you may potentially be at war with on your main. And being able to gain an advantage due to information gained by reading guild chat. Technically also Pay 2 Win, but less severe.
wise olive
I was wondering after watching the Q&A today, which was great btw, if some of the specific classes will have unique abilities that the rest may not. I remember Steven saying rogue classes will have the unique ability to find hidden doors, pick locks etc...what about the Scryer class being able to decipher texts or create scrolls for spells. Maybe the Scout class revealing their Fog of War from farther away. Maybe the Charlatan class having unique traps or being able to have an advantage in the parlor games that could be featured. Im sure this will all come out in the future...the potential is crazy
hasty moss
winter girder
I saw that there is a artisan system in which you can only master a single skill, what does that entail and how much of other skills can you do? Like if i want animal husbandry as my core skill i need some ability as a tamer or else i can't progress without a tamer giving me animals?
stable plover
@wise olive In general we've only heard about the primary archetypes having utilities (presumably classes at most might modify how those worked a bit)
crystal beacon
@vast dirge Spying is going to be a big thing, always is in games like this.
vast dirge
Yeah, it's not a huge issue like using software to use multiple accounts at the same time.
Was moreso just curious, spying doesn't ruin the game like multiple accounts farming.
hasty moss
@winter girder you will pick one of the three to master, gathering, processing, or crafting
woven birch
Hi guys, just reading up on the lore because I'm crazed lore nut, I've been reading about the different empires and their cities within the game does anyone know if these cities will be on the map or is it as barren as told? Regarding the progress of nodes and such
hasty moss
@woven birch it will be barren to start, depending on which race levels a node the most the node will take on the appearance of that race's aesthetics
there may be some ruins tho
woven birch
Ruins alrighty
junior sky
with every level up the node changes appearance based on which race contributed the most to it
weak heron
Idk if anyone will be able to answer this - but is there any word on how they will be making these 'hybrid' classes where it's ranger + fighter etc?
Is this going to leave us with a class that's meh in ranged and meh in melee, so just destroyed by both?
junior sky
means even if you are am elf and your node looks like a dwarven city on lvl 1 if your race contributes more than the others your node will change appearance to elvish
hasty moss
@weak heron we are unsure at this point as it will require testing and balancing in the alphas/betas to come
spark mountain
can i have an alpha 1 key please
weak heron
ok ty bud
woven birch
@junior sky I understand the progression of nodes and such but ty for the other information
hasty moss
@spark mountain you can currently only buy into alpha 2
acoustic elk
@weak heron they abilities you have are from your primary class, the secondary add more options to customize those abilities
junior sky
@weak heron from what I have heard in interviews, you choose a primary and a secondary class which determin your final class category. There was a sheet with all the names and combinations I can dm you if you'll wait a minute
steady ocean
@vast dirge They stated macros are not allowed, so anyone multi-boxing would need to individually control each account
dreamy latch
have they spoken about what buffs will look like? lineage 2 had dedicated buffer classes, and buffs were a necessity in that game.
full badger
have they spoken about what buffs will look like? lineage 2 had dedicated buffer classes, and buffs were a necessity in that game.
@dreamy latch Nothing specific yet
acoustic elk
It has been assumed the bard class may be a buff class
hasty moss
@dreamy latch https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Category:Buff_abilities
livid sluice
will the under realm buildings have a distinct look?
deft stone
Do we know if two hybrids would be just as effective as two pures yet? Like a cleric/mage and mage/cleric vs a cleric/cleric and a mage/mage.
full badger
@deft stone Right now we know very little about the augment system and the classes
hasty moss
@livid sluice unsure how/if the nodes will look different if they are in the under realm, but the tulnar race could influence the look of a node
vast dirge
@steady ocean Do you know if items that drop from mobs are per player or is it shared loot? Because you could just set your other 25 accounts to follow 1 around as you kill shit and then they all loot the item after the mob is dead.
steady ocean
per player
as its a set amount of loot, that generally 1 person can loot
so for example, a group of 5 kill a wolf, the wolf drops 1 wolf pelt and some bones, only 1 in that group could loot both drops, or 2 people could split the bones + pelt
vast dirge
unreal zealot
do we know when they might fix the "technical issues" on the https://aocreation.com/en website?
steady ocean
But groups have a master looter mechanic if that is what you are asking, so 1 person could kill, and another person could be set as the looter I'd imagine
vast dirge
Yeah but that's still inefficient you're really only gaining bag space, materials will still be injected into the economy at the same rate, unless you're a god tab targetter.
I was moreso asking if say you kill a wolf, you get bones and a pelt which is split between the group. Some games will have it that each person in the group will get their own pelt and bones.
So in my example, 26 times more efficient than the average player.
slow meadow
@vast dirge you will not get multiplied loot by having multiple people kill the same target. The mob will drop a finite amount of items.
stable plover
@unreal zealot We don't have a date on that.
unreal zealot
ok thx would just rather buy it on eu site than us
sacred rune
Will the Q&A be going up on youtube?
severe flame
you can watch the VOD
slow meadow
They typically move any stream over to youtube in a day or so for those that missed it, or dont frequent twitch.
sacred rune
Thanks
tawdry forum
I understand that the level 3 flying mounts have PVP actions (such as the legendary eggs dropped from dungeon boss loot). What's stopping the legendary eggs from being held in inventory till they can be used and then everyone in a siege using the mounts? Do they have a time limit till they can be used and a time limit for use?
unreal zealot
they are super rare and they have time limits to use
ruby swift
The legendary egg drops. (which are different from the King/Mayor) mount, have a "freshness" timer at all 3 stages. If you don't use em, you lose em.
torn igloo
from what i understand only castle owners (5 people) have attacking dragons. the rest dont have attacks
ruby swift
No, it is all 10 of the siege mounts, nodes and castles.
And not all are guaranteed to be dragons
wise olive
Any mention of threat being in the game? If so will their be a threat meter?
onyx knoll
there is threat
wicked heath
there is a threat mechanic called rage but we dont have much info on it
Steven said that he wants tanking to be more interesting than braindead WoW tanking but we dont know the details
onyx knoll
and it's not retail WoW threat, you'll actually have to pay attention and mange it from what we know so far
storm raptor
anyone knows if the music that plays before the stream is in youtube? i really loved it
onyx knoll
no mention of an actual threat meter so far tho
full badger
@storm raptor This should help you out I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ePbSTIfSGY
Any mention of threat being in the game? If so will their be a threat meter?
@wise olive There is threat in the game but I doubt we'll see any visible threat meter in the UI
cursive granite
Q: Are further post-kickstarter pledges (like summer 2017) available or there are only preorder packages now?
wicked heath
The mount abilities for kings and mayors are only avaible during sieges. the eggs that are RNG drops from World bosses have a time limit once activated, and most likely wont have abilities. The eggs from world bosses wont start their timer until you hatch them
storm raptor
well lets head all of them @full badger
full badger
Q: Are further post-kickstarter pledges (like summer 2017) available or there are only preorder packages now?
@cursive granite Only the current preorder packages are available
wise olive
gotcha..thanks guys 😉
ruby swift
@storm raptor It is called Meadowlands I believe. It is licensed from a site. The original music from Bear McCreary won't appear until beta.
slow meadow
@wicked heath the eggs have a timer themselves though. So the life of the mount starts after its hatched but you can't just sit on the egg indefinitely. (no pun intended)
regal ingot
Q: is there a way to register a spot for the Alpha tests, or is there a sort of key that is handed out?
wicked heath
@slow meadow Thanks for clarifying, could of sworn they did not 🙏
hasty moss
@regal ingot you can buy into alpha 2 atm
regal ingot
where could I do that?
west ridge
Is it confirmed necromancers can make undead out of NPC corpses? If so were does it say that. And if that is the case will those undead summons be different from our normal summons? I’m not sure if this is a question anyone can answer or just @idle siren
hasty moss
regal ingot
ah thanks
onyx knoll
@west ridge unclear, this question was asked during the AMA and Steven's answer was a bit vague
full badger
@west ridge We don't know if you'll need corpses to summon undead creatures or not
slow meadow
@west ridge yeah not sure about NPCs but the last time he talked about it, he did say you wouldn't be able to raise dead players as undead minions.
west ridge
Yeah exactly but that’s why I was wondering for npc
unreal zealot
i mean the lore reason could be the previous war the corpses are all iunder ground all over vera anyway
you summon/raise warriors and corpse of old
west ridge
Yeah but that ruins the class fantasy in my opinion
primal hawk
Will you be make glider mounts or only land bound mounts with the animal profession
crystal beacon
@west ridge I mean... considering other summoners won't have a prerequisite to use their summons, I seriously doubt Necromancers will need corpses to use their skills.
slow meadow
@primal hawk you could make both
crystal beacon
It would also seriously nerf the class in PvP
west ridge
Not all of the summons but I would imagine some would
unreal zealot
well necromancer is just summoner/cleric so the flavour will be death minions i assume thats as far it goes i imagine
decay/plauge effects maybe
we wont know till alpha2/ beta 1 most likley anyway
i hope you get what you want out of the class
west ridge
Well it’s an extra secondary class so I could imagine all of the summoner abilities flavored for undead but then the abilities we get from cleric would be more about corpses and undead gameplay wise I’d imagine
@unreal zealot ty me too
crystal beacon
@west ridge Just to be clear, you don't get abilities from Cleric, Cleric just gives you augments for the summon abilities you already have
west ridge
Augments as in flavor or ability changing
muted blade
is there a release date yet? (sorry i know a lot of people have asked probably)
crystal beacon
Negative
muted blade
fuck
crystal beacon
Alpha 1 starts in the fall
muted blade
fuck
onyx knoll
we're still pretty far from official release 😛
ocean ginkgo
we are not even in alpha yet. might be released in a couple of years with some luck.
muted blade
:/
unreal zealot
@west ridge flavor is ability changing in a way i believe and will see you differ from other necromancers as there will be 1 of 4 paths to follow in each archtype secondary
paper warren
Alpha has started, no?
unreal zealot
ive seen people calling it pre alpha 1
paper warren
Schedule on the wiki said last phase of Alpha one is in fall
hasty moss
if yall would click the link above...
paper warren
I did lol
slow meadow
its been mentioned to them before that its a little misleading, but alpha 1 proper starts this fall. right now the alpha 1 environment and systems are getting some QA testing by the high level KS backers (so still technically prealpha) hope that helps clarify.
crystal beacon
Our goal is to have the Alpha One game client ready for full testing in Fall of 2020.
paper warren
Fair enough
I'd wager next summer release but you never know what obstacles might rear their ugly head
desert ivy
The test in May was a pre-alpha test for Phoenix Initiative backers only, it isn't the actual Alpha 1. The actual full alpha 1 starts in Fall.
No way the game is released by next summer
Next summer will probably be around when alpha 2 starts
then we have to get through beta 1 and beta 2 after that before release
Release is at least 2 years away
paper warren
Says the betas will be short tho
desert ivy
Betas will be shorter than the alphas, but the alphas are long
because they're actual alphas
paper warren
As long as it doesn't pull an ark
Isn't ark still in alpha?
Or did they finally release it
crystal beacon
I'm fairly confident in saying if nothing goes wrong we'll see this game 3/4th quarter 2022
ruby swift
And all testing phases will take as long as they need. The "shorter betas" from 2017 quote is old.
knotty mason
are classes or names of classes subject to change?
i was looking at some of them and it seems like paladin for example doesnt really fit the holy warrior role in fact some of the skills seem more opposite than what a paladin would be
also i was looking at paladin and it seems we have to take a shield rather than a 2 hander other wise we might not be able to use several skills
are there plans to add skill varation depending on what weapon you have equip?
full badger
@knotty mason There is a chance they can change but it's unlikely
keen delta
I'm fairly confident in saying if nothing goes wrong we'll see this game 3/4th quarter 2022
@crystal beacon i sure hope not, would be a bad timing with a wow expo coming at the same time
ornate flare
The abilities listed for them would be carryover from the tank primary class, the augments will change up how a lot of the skills work based on information we've received so far @knotty mason
crystal beacon
@keen delta Last few WoW expansions have come out in August, a few months after that I don't think would be too unfortuntae
unreal zealot
you would be suprised how many wow people will shift over to at least try aoc over wow
many might even play both i plan to
onyx knoll
I think a few months after a wow xpac would be pretty good timing, that's usually when casual players start getting bored of the new content and are looking for something new 😂
knotty mason
i play warcraft for years and of course
archeage was my all time favorite mmo ruin by trash
but ive played wow for a long time and i need a new mmo
fierce pendant
Is there a chance in the future adding an alignment system like dungeons and dragons (neutral good/evil,lawful good/evil etc) that gives access to more possible skills and interaction with players and NPC's ?
knotty mason
reason being is its not blizzard anymore its activision last fully made blizzard expansion was mist of panderia
glass bridge
Hello! A recent excited member of the Ashes community, but a long time player of MMOs, mostly WOW, OSRS, and ESO. I have a question in regards to Ashes’ approach to narrative. Personally, I have found great satisfaction in engaging with the lore, world-building, and environmental storytelling that MMOs, as a whole world, are able to have. It seems that Ashes is doing a lot still behind the scenes to create that world from a narrative perspective. Has there been anything’s released in regards to the narrative design of Ashes? I know that the game will utilize quests to tell stories, and I’ve read some brief history of Verra on the website, but I’m excited to sink my teeth into more. Thanks!
slow meadow
@glass bridge lore will be kept very close to their chest in the leadup to the game. Steven wants people to go in to the game pretty blind to the lore beyond broad strokes.
crystal beacon
@fierce pendant Nothing really in that vein that's been discussed. I honestly don't think alignment systems translate well into MMO-space, personally. (Also don't really think they've held up well in D&D-space either.)
full badger
@glass bridge There has been quite a bit of lore and world building done already, which you can read up on the wiki here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore
glass bridge
@slow meadow @full badger Thanks for the responses. Looking forward to learning more as the Alpha approaches.
magic burrow
i know this probably a stupid question but just wondering will there be things for new players completely new to this genre ive never played WoW or games that are similar and know nothing about the tab system and those things but want to dive into this game day 1
full badger
@magic burrow I'm sure there will be some kind of tutorial built into Ashes of Creation. After that, there will be plenty of player-made resources to help you get started
unreal zealot
I would imagine there might be pop up tutorials and basic explanations for all players as nodes start up
magic burrow
@full badger thanks
short coral
@desert ivy I think game will be released sooner then most people think, hence all the massive publicity and hype build, wow only took 4–5 years
digital yacht
@short coral wow came from an established dev team
unreal zealot
i expect no sooner than late 2022
digital yacht
Intrepid is not they already highly misevalutated the time it takes to make an MMO
ofc ashes is about 5years in development for launch if it launches near 2022-2023
desert ivy
The only reason the hype has happened now is because of the Lazypeon video. It's not like Intrepid planned it.
crystal beacon
@short coral None of the publicity has been planned by Intrepid. Lazypeon made a video and it took off. Steven jumped on the opportunity for interviews with big streamers.
storm raptor
intrepid still hire people so, i really hope 22/23
unreal zealot
the ashes project is already 5 years old i believe but develompent started in 2017?
digital yacht
it all really depends on how Alpha 1 goes that will deetermine the scope of release dates in the future
@unreal zealot the idea came out in 2017
hasty moss
@unreal zealot KS started in 2017, there had been work done prior to KS
digital yacht
dev didnt start til 2018
unreal zealot
im sure i heard steven say 2015 he was pennign it out already with a few people
storm raptor
it all really depends on how Alpha 1 goes that will deetermine the scope of release dates in the future
@digital yacht all my fingers are crossed so this alpha goes really really well
queen summit
One of my favourite things in RPGs is the world. I recently fell in love with desert environments and seeing that such a zone exists on the AoC map is amazing. So from that i have a question: would I be able to get the full leveling up experience playing in that biome alone?
short coral
Lazypeon also released a video in 2017 though lol
solid solstice
Anybody happen to know the forum code for big txt? "
[center][size=400]Ethos[/size][/center]" don't works, same with the size after the [center]
short coral
Apr 14, 2017
brittle ferry
The world is huge and fast travel isn't exactly a thing. So definitely a possible, but we just don't know enough of the layouts @queen summit
Layouts meaning spawns of the levels of mobs & bosses and the like
crystal beacon
@queen summit From the sound of it the level of content is closely related to the size of nearby nodes, so theoretically, if you could get a node near the desert leveled up to max, you should be able to
queen summit
Alright thanks for the answers
crystal beacon
But we don't know for sure.
broken lodge
good info on the stream today, huh guys?
torpid tangle
was good indeed
white sand
Will they create giant siege mounts other than the dragon depending on the castle/node location
broken lodge
🙂
crystal beacon
Hey @simple ether are you putting your q&a from today on youtube as well?
digital yacht
@white sand yes they refer to Royal Mounts as Dragons rn bc thats whats been released so far
crystal beacon
Cool cool, thanks much
stable plover
If you'd like to chat about the stream, you should take it to #aoc-discussion If you'd like a summary of the stream check out https://ashespost.com/7-25-20-reddit-ama-transcript/
white sand
@digital yacht not ehat i mean , talking anout the giant fire dragon that only the leader can use
digital yacht
it wont just be one mount
white sand
So will they have like a giant phoenix for snow nodes/castles, giant whale for coast ones ...etc
digital yacht
possibly
white sand
I hope so
crystal beacon
Only giant whale if it can fly pls. That would give me inspiration to become a mayor
white sand
Ye that what i mean imagine a giant mythical whale flying in the air during a siege
Or an icy phoenix for snow mountains or a giant winged snake for forest ones ...etc
ancient karma
As a class designer... I am curious about the class design philosophy and the structure in which they're created to support a strong balance system? I am taking a guess and say that it's already 50% better than WoW.
warped stag
So quick question will Ashes of creation ever implement a cross server play style system? For example using gates to travel to other servers to allow players to see the difference in nodes and progression on each server, to pvp players on different servers, etc. This would be similar to what Ark survival evolved uses, or what Dark souls does to allow players to invade other player worlds. It could be that each player has a home server their character belongs to and their allowed to visit other servers but not allowed to own land, houses etc in that server because it's not their home server.
static oriole
no dps meters will probably slow the creep of hating on a particular class too
white sand
Can we send pictures in here btw ?
full badger
no
red tusk
How do you plan to make the experience fun for casuals as well as hard core players?
late siren
Has there been anything said regarding "out of character" cosmetics that don't really fit the game world? Things like candy canes and christmass trees, or pumpkins etc? I generally find such things to have a negative effect oh how the game world feels.
crystal beacon
@ancient karma Can't really answer your question because we haven't really seen it in action (not til Alpha 2) but in theory, it's 8 main archetypes, and then you eventually choose a subclass that gives you 4 augmentation options per ability to change those abilities. (You also get augmentations from races, things like thieves guild quests, all kinds of stuff.)
full badger
As a class designer... I am curious about the class design philosophy and the structure in which they're created to support a strong balance system? I am taking a guess and say that it's already 50% better than WoW.
@ancient karma Right now we have very little information on the classes or how they will be balanced
crystal beacon
The subclass being, again, one of the 8 main archetypes.
ancient karma
@crystal beacon and @full badger Thanks for the response!
crystal beacon
Will take that word out of my AoC vocabulary o7
warped stag
Will each class once combined with another archetype will have visually different skills/visual effect to the skills or will it just be a different playstyle but same looking skills like what Arche age does?
keen grotto
Sub class is the secondary class chosen
stuck mesa
Question. I purchased a Kickstarter pack for Ashes of Creation. I just actually remembered this game existed not long ago, and was curious if I was suppose to receive and redeem some sort of code for my kickstarter?
ancient karma
As a class designer my self, I am typically against sub classes or spec system or multi classing because in most cases, it breaks core gameplay and class design. It really bottle necks the player into a one dimensional linear gameplay, being massively repetitive.
In my experience, and my philosophy, I am big on structure of classes that provide a thematic direction for a class to give that class an immersive feel that would compliment thematic core mechanics.
I will say that, I am so far excited about this sub class system for AoC. It is the direction that I would take if i were designing classes in such a system.
keen grotto
I doubt your secondary class will afford you all the benefits of if it was the main thus a “subclass”
opaque harness
Is there any benefit to doing the same Primary and Secondary? For example Mage/Mage
keen grotto
You don’t get secondary class until a certain point though
boreal abyss
@opaque harness Strongest Mage of Mages
I'd assume Mage/Mage is best Magic Dmg Dealer
solid crater
How important will religions be and what are the benefits in claiming a specific religion?
keen grotto
Bard main + fighter sub is different than fighter main + bard sub
stable plover
@red tusk The answer to that encompasses a lot of things, it's very close to asking "How will the game be fun" in general -> You can assume that there are some pretty hardcore things that casual players won't (or are at least unlikely to) experience like being the mayor of a node / king of a castle / leader of a religion / etc. - but very casual players can still log on to vote in their node election, participate in a node siege on either side by showing up to one , or joining the nodes religious group -> All of those systems can still be interacted with very casually, while still giving a feeling of 'making a difference' in what's going on around the server. (I'm not going to list all of the games features here.)
keen grotto
I understand that you Class is the combination of the two
But there is def a main+sub aspect of the class system
Primary/secondary are just synonyms
boreal abyss
The reason why it's not called "subclass" is becasue it does not bring skills to the table
crystal beacon
I agree that "subclass" can get confusing because generally, "subclasses" are like, evolution classes.
unreal zealot
you class is the combination of two archtypes so you dont get you full class till level 25
brittle star
I just want to know if they will be showing of combat from the other archetypes... as so far it has only been from the standpoint of steven... as a mage in the gameplay footage on youtube
unreal zealot
you will see more as alpha one opens up and they add more archtypes as they go through it
keen halo
So, I'm not sure if this has been answered or not yet. But, I was wondering, in game is there a distance at which you can see another players nameplate such as within Guild Wars 2? Like in GW2, you can see another players name from a fair distance away just by looking in that general direction. Will Ashes have something similar to this or will names/nameplates be harder to detect? I ask because I am wondering how viable sneaking around in the game would be or if it would be completely pointless in since you effectively might have a beacon over your head, essentially saying "hey look i'm over here"
twilit granite
Do we know when classes will be flushed out a bit more? Is it during a-1 or a-2 or later?
digital yacht
main 8 archetypes during a1
winter field
A-2
digital yacht
adding the secondary parts for a2
twilit granite
Cool thx
errant copper
crystal beacon
@keen halo I don't believe we have a real answer for that yet/it's something that will definitely be iterated on multiple times, but I can't imagine having nameplates at a huge draw distance for a game like this with death penalties and open pvp
west ridge
@solid crater in the ama my boi Steven confirmed that based on the religion you choose it will give you certain quest lines and titles. And like high tier religion stuff you can get auguments for your class.
winter field
holy necromancer incoming
tough sierra
@simple ether what'd you think of the QnA today and are you going to make a video on it
onyx knoll
Hopefully next QnA people will ramble less in their questions and just make it short and to the point 🤣
winter field
I was hoping steve would go over the buffing system more 😦
crystal beacon
Yeah, really important to have succinct questions for a livestream AMA, especially with someone like Steven who gives in-depth answers with context.
unreal zealot
for the ama they should open questiosn for a day before and close them after 12 hours then lot people vote for the best ones
onyx knoll
I feel like they haven't finalized how they want the buffs/debuffs to work so they always kinda dodge around that question, I assume we'll see when alpha 1 starts and the basic bard is available
lone halo
so i saw in Stevens live stream earlier that he said it would be possible to reserve character slots on a server with the intention of helping guilds and friends have a higher chance of staying together, but i was wondering as a player that wants to avoid streamer servers or servers with huge guilds made before the games release, if it would be possible to see how many slots are reserved on a server prior to joining one. Or will you just have to leave the server after finding out that lets say asmongod has taken up most of the server with his followers
onyx knoll
That would be nice, but somehow I doubt they'll release names of people that have reserved spots :/
wicked heath
we don't know how the server reservations will function currently, most likely a guild registration or something
versed hollow
streamers tend to all pick the same servers to try an mitigate that, also, most of them tend to be american, so EU servers should be fine
crystal beacon
@lone halo I'm sure the streamers big enough to worry about will have what server they're reserved on posted somewhere
queen summit
Will the world geography play any part in the caravans or sieges?
lone halo
im not concerned about knowing who is where just to see lets say 5000/10000 character slots for a server are reserved before you yourself join that particular server
knotty dew
yeah atleast for WoW Classic all the big streamers announced their server early precisely so people could avoid that server @lone halo
wicked heath
@queen summit yes
onyx knoll
Ahh I see what you mean G0ld, it'll probably be something to bring up again when we get closer to actual release 🙂
queen summit
Nice
wicked heath
today steven said that 2nd archytpes are more than flavor. How do they intend to make 64 classes worth playing? are they relying on no dmg meters to slow the community finding out the meta? I think GW1 had that many classes and was pretty balanced, but many others have a slew of possible classes with only a dozen or less being "viable"
lean raptor
I just watched the latest ama and was curious about something about the family system. Since you can summon family memebers and multiboxing is allowed, can you have characters across the map on different nodes and summon yourself to far away nodes so you can sell stuff for hella money
versed hollow
there is going to be a long cooldown on the summon so it can't be abused like that
onyx knoll
The 2nd archetypes will modify some of your skills, they won't add any new ability so the balancing isn't as intense as it sounds at first. Plus, they're balancing the game around large-scale battle not 1v1s
digital yacht
@lean raptor thats not really an issue cuz u could just make alts and do the same thing
unreal zealot
@lean raptor while that is true you can only carry so much though we dont know the max stack or if it will be weight
lean raptor
Thanks for the responses ♥️
versed hollow
Carriages are supposed to hold significantly more items, so while you could teleport yourself across the map, you won't make as much money, and you will find your self having to run all the way back because of the cooldown
wicked heath
@onyx knoll it doesent matter if they add new abilities... if it is more than "flavoring" then by definition it adds an advantage in some situations or some more power. even if they are making "rock paper scissors" its still a lot to balance
bold tusk
in the recent AMA, it was mentioned that rogues would get the skill to find hidden rooms... will this be only for rogue primary, or will the other 7 "classes" get the ability even though for those 7 rogue is secondary?
knotty dew
just flavour would mean it literally only changes the cosmetics of your spells, what Stephen was saying is that the choice actually changes the mechanics of your spells somewhat
desert ivy
Only rogue primary would get that skill
versed hollow
@bold tusk no idea tbh, the ama was the first it's been brought up i believe
digital yacht
@bold tusk picking a secondary achetype DOES NOT give u new skills so its only for the main Archetype
unreal zealot
rouge primary
onyx knoll
urgh don't call them rouge
plush zenith
@wicked heath check archeage classes system, it will be heavily inspired . Archeage made 200+ classes with a lot relevant, so. 64 shouldn't be that hard for them
bold tusk
@digital yacht thank god. good to hear. i feel like giving it to rogue secondaries would be a bit much
wicked heath
rouges do it from behind
plush zenith
@wicked heath ***
bold tusk
another question, do we have a timeframe for those who paid the 500 on the website after kickstarter was done, as to when we get into this years alpha? i know they are doing kickstarter first, each tire each month, and then the website last.... so im curious if anyone worked out a ROUGH timeline?
unreal zealot
alpha one is fall this year if thats what you got for 500
warped stag
will classes have different looking skills/visual effects compared to their original Archetype skills? For example Thief/Rogue skills compared to Shadow lord? Since Arche age has this type of Archetype/class system creation but skills all look the same
onyx knoll
@wicked heath Yeah it's obviously not gona be easy, but I feel like they're not too concerned about perfectly balancing everything. It'll be really hard to pinpoint perfect meta build because your builds will vary a lot based on situations. Since you can switch your 2nd archetype around, then you might bring a fighter/cleric for solo content but a fighter/fighter for dungeon or a fighter/rogue for attacking caravans.
Also, there will be elemental damage/resistances enchants for gear, so sometimes your fire dmg build will be OP and sometimes it'll be shit depending on who you're fighting
wicked heath
@warped stag yes most likely
@onyx knoll How i see it going, is that people will not create a new character for a meta build unless they are going for world/server firsts. I think the metas will develop around each main archytpe since it is so difficult and involved to level a character. so FOTM will be per secondary archytpe for each of the 8 main ones
plush zenith
@onyx knoll switch your secondary archétype will be harsh. Maybe there will be even day restriction you just can't switch like you want
versed hollow
they are estimating Fall 2020 for full alpha 1 testing, so $500 packages may be in a bit before then, but we don't know for sure
bold tusk
well i know the first tier kickstarter has been playing already giving feedback. august starts the next tier down in price, and then the tier after that, im jus tnot sure how long it will be until my website backing gets me in. im too excited to test this being an ex game tester, i wanna break it
hardy pewter
I hope it's very hard for max level characters to switch archetypes, but I do hope lower levels will have a chance to experiment
onyx knoll
@plush zenith Damn I must have missed that tiddbit, ty!
hardy pewter
that's what I meant @undone prairie . Class is permanent, secondary is not
versed hollow
@hardy pewter while you can't change your primary class without rerolling, you will have to fulfil certain requirements to swap your secondary class, it won't be easier for lower lvls, or harder for higher lvls, just the same for everyone
hardy pewter
that's too bad; if it's too easy swapping to the meta will be common
my grasp of the lingo isn't great yet
plush zenith
@hardy pewter they said they will make hit hard and à Pain in the ass to switch archetype. They want to create fiction and make your class mean something to you.
crystal beacon
Nothing is known about the specifics of augmentations
onyx knoll
We know mage/clerics have some abilities that let them clear away things like poison clouds that might block some paths in dungeons, they showed it in the 4k dev gameplay trailer
versed hollow
@undone prairie not sure, but i can see there being places that only a priest can open through prayers or something like that, so not just limited to certain classes hopefully
plush zenith
@versed hollow maybe clear of fog of poison in a dungeon
So your team doesn't get damage take every second
tough sierra
Will there be a mailbox system in the game, and can you send items through it?
onyx knoll
it's optional stuff, like if you happen to have a rogue you might get a shortcut through the dungeon but if not then no big deal just go the long way around
digital yacht
@tough sierra u cannot send items
crystal beacon
@undone prairie Steven literally said the ideal party comp will be one of each archetype, so, yeh
digital yacht
there is mail but no attachments
bold tusk
@undone prairie I remember steven saying something along the lines of, the game is balanced to have one of each primary archtype in your group, and that's how the game will be balanced as well, 8v8 in that mindset
onyx knoll
Mh, I guess the minimum group size is 8, uh? makes sense
tough sierra
Does that mean dungeons will be 8 players instead of the usual 5?
plush zenith
Family of 8 , dungeon of 8 , balanced for 8
tough sierra
Holy shit
versed hollow
I think "planned to be balanced" would be better, a meta will always appear XD
bold tusk
i think they said there will be a range of group sizes for dungeons, not always 8, but less, and even more
onyx knoll
group sizes are 8, 16, 40
plush zenith
8-16-40 for dungeons
timid dew
Will it be possible to optain gear via PVP ?
onyx knoll
and then 250v250 for war 😂
crystal beacon
@timid dew You can get resources from open world pvp/caravans/sieges and use them to craft gear
bold tusk
@timid dew you can gain gear in every way you want. from crafting, to exploring, to pvp, and pve, dungeons, raids, etc
crystal beacon
@timid dew You won't be able to get gear from, say, arenas though. (Arenas will have their own progression with pvp-related enchants and benefits)
plush zenith
@bold tusk i think to obtain gear you will have to do all of the above. So to make gear you will have help from crafting and drop at the same time
onyx knoll
I didn't ask! Don't tag me! hahaha
bold tusk
I ran the battle royal on an 8 core 16 thread AMD with a beast gpu and got well over 60fps (closer to 90, mind you, that was very unoptimized and very early alpha gameplay)
onyx knoll
But yeah, you can steal gear from heavily corrupted players, you can steal ressources from other players by killing them then get a crafter to make gear out of those for you...
So PvP can be a legit source of gear 😛
bold tusk
yup^^^^
versed hollow
My partner was in Alpha 0 and had good performance, she uses hardware that's 5+ years old
i5 2500k, and a GTX 780 i believe
i couldn't tell you the exact FPS though
desert ivy
Keep in my alpha 0 was over 2 years ago
bold tusk
they said they want to game to be playable to a wide range, but not be complete potato mode in terms of quality
desert ivy
So won't necessarily be the same as the game that will release 4 or 5 years after Alpha 0
bold tusk
id say, ryzen processor (like the low end 1600 from first gen ryzen) and i5 or better from the past 5 years or so should work perfect
versed hollow
yeah, there will be optimisations, but also a lot more content in the game now
wicked heath
i think they are targetting i5 and gtx 970 for min requirments
bold tusk
I wonder if they will switch over to the new unreal engine which has a ton of optimizations for SSD's/NVME's which can help with large scale games @idle siren
digital yacht
theres no chance they will move to UE5 with it being to new that will just be a cluster fuck
bold tusk
they are already on UE 4.... not so much a cluster!@#$ as you think 😛
digital yacht
its like buying a new 1st gen car u never get them the first year
@undone prairie doubt it
bold tusk
even moving to UE 4.2 or whatever the most recent is, gives access to some of the new features that help with large scale games
plush zenith
@undone prairie u won't know anything about the guy classes
bold tusk
@simple ether dope
versed hollow
@simple ether min specs there are fairly low the GTX 460 came out of 2010, and the i3-2125 cpu came out in 2011. Safe to say that more modern systems will run it fine
bold tusk
aye. sounds about right. those new updates to the engine though, super progressive and pretty much designed around mmo content aka large open world
plush zenith
Be ready to have good knowledge of player. But there is some hints. Mage will probably wear a staff.
bold tusk
I wonder if they hired and FPS devs in order to smooth out combat or what lol
onyx knoll
can you switch gear while in combat?
bold tusk
@onyx knoll you can only switch weapons in combat
plush zenith
I think in lineage 2 . Hiding your class was a big factor to bait people and surprise them with sub meta strats
onyx knoll
nice, I can see myself using the wrong weapon to mislead people into thinking i'm an other class and then switch once they engage haha
bold tusk
some solid FPS devs could speed that up and get their RPG devs working on more important stuffs
grim hinge
any big reveals come out of the QA today? I didn't have time to watch yet
hazy narwhal
how large is the concept file for AoC, 140 pages or 1400?
alpine copper
Will high level combatants gain corruption from killing low level combatants? The only quote I can find on the wiki is this:
The wider the level disparity between the players, the more corruption will be gained.
But I think it refers to combatants killing non-combatants or am I wrong?
bold tusk
@undone prairie im a bard, i could be using my wand for range, and when the fighter gets close, i can switch to daggers, as an example
hazy narwhal
@alpine copper yes, the wider the discrepency the larger the penalty
grim hinge
Anyone do a tl;dr with the highlighs yet? I'm guessing no haha, but I also can't get my wife to watch a 2hr Q&A session about a video game right now and I'm curious
alpine copper
ah ok thx
versed hollow
@alpine copper if you're both flagged, there is no punishment
hazy narwhal
^ that too
bold tusk
@undone prairie that was just an example, because you wouldn't expect a bard to use a wand. every class can use every weapon combo possible. i could be a mage using a spear!
i think the skills are point based, so you can spend more points into one thing or another. we don't have full details, but think ESO in terms of skills, weapon trees are seperate from class trees
plush zenith
@bold tusk but don't expect a warrior to use a wand
alpine copper
So that means a max level combatant can kill level 1 combatants without gaining any corruption right?
bold tusk
a warrior could 100% use a wand for long range, then switch to sword shield for up close
crystal beacon
@alpine copper If the level 1 is flagged for pvp, yes
bold tusk
the pvp system is complicated. if a level 50 kills a level 1, and the level 1 didn't fight back, that level 50 will gain a TON of corruption
plush zenith
Most of weapon won't be suited for some classes. They can wear it but it's not suited. It's like a warrior fighting with a flute
versed hollow
@alpine copper only if they are both flagged. If the low lvl guy was not flagged, then the high lvl guy would receive a larger penalty than normal
cerulean atlas
im pretty sure this is the right channel for this, but will there be class themed building options? As someone that will more than likely go for a necromancer, a necromancer themed freehold or node would be dope.
wicked heath
Stevan said that scamming is allowed in-game as long as no glitches or exploits are used right?
plush zenith
@wicked heath yesss
crystal beacon
You can buy a cosmetic that you think matches your theme, but they aren't native to the classes.
bold tusk
@cerulean atlas yes, there are necromancer style designs. i missed the website pre-order that had necromancer theme by one month ! for skins
cerulean atlas
so much awesome @bold tusk
crystal beacon
The current cosmetic could be fairly necromancer-y as well.
plush zenith
@wicked heath scamming is social interaction. They want to create fuss between player. Basically AoC is a social game to create drama between people
bold tusk
and @cerulean atlas they also said, although the preorder skins are one time offer, there will be similar yet different versions of that skin in game, so while the pre-order necro skins look one way, there will be others in game you can earn without paying
versed hollow
Got scammed? hunt the player down and kill them for revenge >:)