questions

[tough sierra]

is there a limit to the amount of people allowed per node?

[crystal beacon]

its up to encounter designers

no, though there is limited housing in a node

[tender siren]

Will gliders be a thing? something like from archeage

[crystal beacon]

and i think there is citizenship for cities as well

[digital yacht]

@tender siren gliding mounts yes

[wicked heath]

@stable plover so when a metro is formed its ZOI will be itself and whatever its vassals have, it can get expanded by its vassals getting more vassals?

[stable plover]

@tough sierra No hard limits, but there are soft limits like scaling cost of apartments with more people

[past ridge]

i hope they dont increase it to 50k, I still have nightmares about atlas

[unkempt oracle]

An irrelevent question, what is the currency called? I would guess gold?

[crystal beacon]

do we know if you need to be a citizen to use the facilities in a city?

[low pond]

@crystal beacon I’m assuming if it’s threat it’s gonna be everyone generates “hate” and tanks are just best at generating it and dps will have to watch dps so they don’t get the aggro

[digital yacht]

@unkempt oracle so far we only have gold

@unkempt oracle but other currencies as well

[crystal beacon]

@low pond that's the basics, yeah, but im just saying that you can design encounters around specific mechanics to make it different, it doesn't have to be the same for every fight.

[stable plover]

@wicked heath I think they're usually referred to as just the vassals of the largest parent involved, but otherwise yes it could acquire more vassels depending on how things went - There is a max size it can grow too

[noble breach]

Can you drop only equipped gear when corrupted or also one that is in inventory?

[low pond]

Aaaahh I gotchu. Yeah that would be fun to see actually. Wonder if tanks are gonna have the easy “taunt” instant max threat button to avoid those mechanics @crystal beacon

[crystal beacon]

seems like there will be a taunt mechanic, based on current known skills

as well as threat reducing and removing mechanics

[low pond]

Oooo where can I see the list of skills?

[wicked heath]

@stable plover is the system designed to disourage large metro empires or are you relying on the players to be unable to organize effeciently enough with the metro as ruler absent of a unified castle region

[crystal beacon]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Hatred

again this is all subject to extreme change

[whole dawn]

how many skills can each archtype learn?

[crystal beacon]

so don't take it as law

[stable plover]

@low pond https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tank has a list of some skills, some of those may be cut, the devs definitely want more, said list is only available for half the classes

[noble breach]

Yea, cuz on earlier interviews with 2 more devs only carried gear was said while in asmongold and summit streams Steven said equipped

[crystal beacon]

but it is a good indicator of where it's going

[obsidian ice]

@simple ether I came across your YouTube channel yesterday good stuff bud

[tough sierra]

Do we know if https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Hatred will work on players?

mainly the forced target lock part

[crystal beacon]

we dont know

[tough sierra]

Jahlon i also found your channel yesterday, subbed and chewing my way through the 7 hour q&a vid

fuckin good it is

[severe flame]

There is a 7 hour q&a??? Giveitz!

[crystal beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIk_W7Q8K48

[unkempt oracle]

7 hours!?!?

[tired charm]

@tough sierra Most likely not, in most MMOs taunt abilities are PvE only

[tough sierra]

aye, s'what i was worried about

[severe flame]

Thank you

[tough sierra]

i'd love an mmo where tanks can actually, y'know, tank in PvP

[unkempt oracle]

Will there be pvp abilities?

[tough sierra]

pulling threat and such

[digital yacht]

@unkempt oracle what do u mean?

[tough sierra]

i think they mean pvp specific abilities?

[unkempt oracle]

Abilities made specifically for pvp

[woven niche]

This is a serious question I want to ask. What is stopping a friend from being a bounty hunter to locate corrupted players, and have a squad of normal players just hunt them down and weaken them so the bounty hunter can just last hit?

[digital yacht]

@woven niche nothing

[vast crescent]

@unkempt oracle ?

[desert ivy]

That seems like good team work to me

[digital yacht]

@unkempt oracle there is not pvp specifc abilities

[tough sierra]

that just seems like a good idea to me @woven niche

[vast crescent]

wrong shadow @unkempt oracle

[slow meadow]

@woven niche not sure exactly what problem that would present but last hitting itself is a bit difficult since health bars wont be percentage or number based. they are just representative.

[tired charm]

But then, why not just go with a group of bountyhunters?

[woven niche]

I feel corrupted players shouldn't have insane dmg reduction because of people taking advantage of certain things in the game imo. Like it be a one sided fight but atleast they could have a fighting chance.

[crystal beacon]

it looks like players will have line of sight blocking tools

that should be interesting

[low pond]

Do we know how respeccing will work? We gotta pay for it? Visit a dude? Respect whenever?

[woven niche]

@tired charm because bounty hunters take full dmg from corrupted players, so having tohers will make it so corrupted player can't even fight back.

[crystal beacon]

wasn't really able to determine what class was doing it, but it had some magical looking barriers

[tough sierra]

I will say a lot of people have pushed back on more corruption = reduced capabilities @woven niche

[low pond]

@crystal beacon yeah read through tank abilities. They got a knock back wall they can just summon

[slow meadow]

@woven niche you have to gain a lot of corruption for your combat effectiveness to fall. If you aren't griefing and just participating in normal PvP and some PKing non-combatants occasionally you should always have a fighting chance.

[crystal beacon]

gonna have literal trenches in sieges

woo

[low pond]

Should fuck with LOS

[stable plover]

@woven niche Remember, players became corrupt in the first place by basically attacking people without a fighting chance

[tired charm]

@woven niche The damage reduction comes in with a very high corruption, to stop them from keep killing greens"

[crystal beacon]

corruption correlates to a lot of factors, its likely that level will be one of them

[low pond]

Wonder what the HP on walls is gonna be

[digital yacht]

@low pond no they need to be tested

[low pond]

Or duration of summoned walls

[crystal beacon]

if you just go around mercing low level players

[tough sierra]

'corrupt' should not be seen as a permanent state, instead transitional

[crystal beacon]

you deserve to be punished

[celest tulip]

Anyone know how long the gcd will be?

[digital yacht]

no

[crystal beacon]

gcd for what?

[woven niche]

What if the person they attack has a fighting chance, and they aren't just attacking weak people. As well will it be liek BDo so you have a matter saying how much corrupt you have and how will it affect you at certain levels?

[crystal beacon]

oh nvm

skill gcd

[tough sierra]

lol

[celest tulip]

ye

[digital yacht]

too early to say it all needs to be tested

[crisp holly]

I believe the bounty hunters follow the risk vs reward system as you might get extra things for being a bounty hunter killing someone who is corrupted vs a non-combat player.

[crystal beacon]

like i said, they have mentioned corruption will be based on a ton of factors

[tough sierra]

@woven niche if you dont wanna be super corrupt, dont go around murdering greens, simple as

[crystal beacon]

its not like, oops i accidentally PK'd a guy

[celest tulip]

im really hoping its on the shorter side

[crystal beacon]

you have to go out of your way

[tired charm]

You only ever get corruption from murdering greens

[whole dawn]

you can just tag people and if they dont fight back just ignore them

[crystal beacon]

and if both people flag? no corruption

[whole dawn]

if they fight back, then u can PK

[tired charm]

If you fight back vs a corrupted player and the corrupted player kills you, he gets no corruption

[woven niche]

@crystal beacon its not just about killing low level players, i'm talking about all around pvp. When you fight someone the same level as you, or if someoen just keeps attacking you to lower your hp but not kill you.

[topaz oriole]

@celest tulip You could try to watch a gameplay video of AoC and try to gauge it.

[tough sierra]

also im sure there will be a dueling system

[crystal beacon]

@woven niche you have to flag yourself as pvp to attack someone, meaning that once oyu do that you are open game to everyone else.

[celest tulip]

mm but ive heard that the combat system is being reworked or something

[crisp holly]

If you fight back against a corrupted player when you are green, you stay green. @tired charm

[crystal beacon]

idk if there's a known limit to how long you're flagged.

[tough sierra]

let's move this to #aoc-discussion

[slow meadow]

@woven niche PvP like caravancs, sieges, guild wars and fighting other flagged players does not produce corruption.

[tired charm]

@woven niche Then you just heal up and kill the other guy, since he's flagged now

[digital yacht]

@crystal beacon its a point system not a time system

@celest tulip its all being tested right now

[stable plover]

@celest tulip yep, they're gradually combining their tab and action combat systems

[crystal beacon]

@digital yacht not corruption, being flagged for pvp

corruption i understand, but you have to declare yourself a combatant in some way before attacking another guy

[digital yacht]

@crystal beacon o yea lol there wil lbe a time limit and u cant just turn it on and off when u want

[tired charm]

@crisp holly Oh, right, you dont even need to flagg to fight a corrupted player, right! my bad

[tough sierra]

thrye thinking about changing that @tired charm

[crystal beacon]

do we know if you lose all corruption after being PK'd?

[tough sierra]

not all of it, significant amount

[crystal beacon]

i know you can work it off with quests or w/e

[slow meadow]

@crystal beacon you will lose some. depends on how corrupt you are at the time.

[crystal beacon]

that's probably a good thing then

[digital yacht]

@crystal beacon u lose corruption when u die but u lost alot more then the Purple ppl

4x mores

[full seal]

Whats to stop people keeping items on their characters and alts instead of freehold or node storage?

[crystal beacon]

good luck working off corruption stacks lol

that sounds like torture

[digital yacht]

nothing @full seal

[crystal beacon]

trying to find a place to not die

[tough sierra]

thats part of the fun Hymn

[woven niche]

Ya i lvoe pvp and i don't want there to be no pvp because of a corruption system where you lose your entire set of gear.

[digital yacht]

just done get corrupted

[crystal beacon]

i suspect some people will have permanently corrupt alts

[digital yacht]

@woven niche its percentage based u wont just lose them all

[slow meadow]

@full seal inventory will be much more limited than warehouse storage. A caravan for example tranports roughly 100x more than a single individual can hold.

[full seal]

ok so if you have something of surpeme high value you would just carry it

[tough sierra]

do we know the max amount of character's we'll be allowed to have per server/account?

[tired charm]

@digital yacht Do you know why i get "Spam filter triggered. Please try again." When i try to post to the wiki?

[crystal beacon]

login, gank lowbies, logout and play your normal character.

[slow meadow]

@crystal beacon if they don't play those alts to work off the XP debt and corruption they will eventually become less effective in combat though.

[digital yacht]

@tough sierra a comfortable amount

[crystal beacon]

@slow meadow don't need a lot of stats to kill lowbies

[tough sierra]

that tells me nothing

[digital yacht]

@tired charm no PM Lex he runs the wiki

[woven niche]

Its not just about killing lowbies

its killing anyone

[tired charm]

OK, cheers!

[digital yacht]

@tough sierra more than 3

thats all we know

[slow meadow]

@tough sierra that is all we know at this time. there is no hard number from intrepid

[crystal beacon]

i mean in this case it's literally a group of people who just kill lowbies

[tough sierra]

Mag if you're killing other people that want to pvp you wont get corruption

@woven niche

[woven niche]

if you get into a large group fight of 8v8 and you are the unlucky one to get most of the kills and get high corrupt and can drop gear.

[soft magnet]

Question on Higher Level killing lower levels (I understand how the corruption system works ) but if it's an alt and they just equip lower crap gear they don't care if it drops what's the real deterrent there to just farm low lvl player kills

[woven niche]

Then they respawn and kill half your group for free, unless you kill thme and go corrupted as well.

[digital yacht]

@soft magnet evenutally u will lose combat effectiveness and wont be able to fight them

[crystal beacon]

did they say if corrupt individuals will be hostile in cities?

[slow meadow]

@crystal beacon this is veering into #aoc-discussion territory so the last part I will say is that there is no "lowbie" zone so knowing who is a lowbie and where you can go to gank isn't as straight forward.

[tough sierra]

guards will attack them

[woven niche]

@tough sierra You aren't getting it im saying people can abuse that kind of system to take ur gear.

[digital yacht]

@crystal beacon yes NPC guards will attack them

[tough sierra]

they cant if you dont become corrupt @woven niche

[crystal beacon]

ill drag any more chat down to #aoc-discussion sorry

its more or less enumerating on questions

[woven niche]

@tough sierra A group doesn't have to fight back, can make you go red, and come back to attack ur team that might be half red. And you can't help ur team unless you also go red.

[lean current]

@woven niche then don't kill them

[whole dawn]

@woven niche u wont drop gear unless ur corrupted, you only drop materials

[slow meadow]

no worries there is just so many new people asking questions we want to try and keep this channel as on topic as possible. So thanks

[crystal beacon]

trying to help as well, but i also have some edge questions that i wanted to quickly go over to make sure it's fully understood

[woven niche]

We need a pvp discussion channel 🙂

Could a mod make that maybe?

[tough sierra]

#aoc-discussion

[digital yacht]

just use the current discussion channel

[slow meadow]

or the forums as well. many good conversations and theorycrafting thread there @woven niche

[brisk hawk]

error ❌ aoc-discussion is already full with diet and health discussion for whatever reason 😂

[tough sierra]

well, start a new talk there

[brisk hawk]

I'm half joking, but you know how it is, when there's already plenty of talk going on it gets chaotic

[digital yacht]

tell them to move to general discussion

[tough sierra]

yeah the #aoc-discussion channel is painful rn lol

that

's why convos always continue in here

[wind lava]

so how do i download the game i bought one of the packs

[slow meadow]

game is not available to play. alpha 1 begins this fall. depending on the pack you bought you will be able to play at that stage of testing.

[wind lava]

ok so does the 4 month play time start now or when its avaible for play?

[slow meadow]

starts at launch

[wind lava]

ok

and you say beta will be in fall do we have a date or just fall

[unkempt oracle]

If you equip a shield, will you be able to block with a press of a button, or is the item only for stats?

[slow meadow]

alpha is in the fall no specific date

[main grotto]

Its too far out to give a concrete date for beta

[slow meadow]

@unkempt oracle you may have abilities that require the use of a shield that are activated (increasing damage reduced on a block for example), but there will not be an active block

[wind lava]

damn so ill have to upgrade to voyager to get alpha then

[slow meadow]

keep in mind that is alpha 2. Its alpha 1 beginning this fall.

[limpid whale]

How do I back the game and get into the next alpha/beta testing?

[unkempt oracle]

Will people be allowed to stream alpha 1?

[wind lava]

there is no option for alpha 1

[crisp holly]

@limpid whale https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop

[wind lava]

so i guess i cant play for long long time

[crisp holly]

@unkempt oracle Yes, we have been told that the NDA will be down once Alpha 1 starts

[weak heron]

it'll be a while. You cannot buy into Alpha 1 anymore

[slow meadow]

@unkempt oracle yes. no NDA for alpha 1. @wind lava A1 is not currently available. Steven mentioned they may open it back up after everyone gets in, so keep an eye on #news just in case if your interested.

[wind lava]

copy thanks

[cerulean night]

How can I download the game Aagd download link in the official topic

[crisp holly]

Watches #news for any and all updates 👀

[crystal beacon]

I feel like you may as well keep a variation of that answer on your clipboard to just paste repeatedly for the next week or so.

[cerulean night]

When can we play and download

[limpid whale]

A long time from now

[raven grotto]

after beta finishes

[hazy cosmos]

probably gets asked a lot, but what time frame would you guys put on the release? my guess is like a year and half

[wicked heath]

2.5 years or more

[crystal beacon]

That’s an extremely hopeful outlook, IMO

[limpid whale]

2 years at least

[wicked heath]

late 2022 at the earliest

[hazy cosmos]

ahh i see

better to wait for an amazing game then get a lackluster game sooner

[crystal beacon]

We’re not even in alpha 1 proper yet. Late 2022 if everything continues with no issues at all

[slow meadow]

they have proven they are willing to delay to address big issues (backend issues during APOC testing) so a when its ready and at a quality level they are happy with is honestly the best way to think of it.

[wicked heath]

Will each castle region be balanced in its size and resources? or will certain regions/node development placement make some castle regions better than others through player choices

how long do you estimate it will take a server to get a monarch v monarch war

[slow meadow]

castles can be declared on once a month

[wicked heath]

that is guild v guild

monarch is like the ruling guild+ metro and lvl 5 node alliances to unify a castle region

non consensual castle sieges will basically determine how strong a castle region is, and its relationship to the high level nodes near it

since you could defend a castle well enough if you are allied with a metro near you, where you essentially wont get attacked unless a full scale war is declared on you from another kingdom or coalition of nodes. It will be too difficult for one guild to take on a castle + lvl 5 or 6 node nearby without help

[slow meadow]

all you have to do to attack a castle is complete the declaration requirements first. Then you get your 250 people together to fight the 250 people defending. nothing else is involved. @simple ether could you make sure I am not missing something. there isn't any protection system from a nearby node that I'm aware of.

[wicked heath]

you have to defend against sabatoge from other guilds, and siege down the 3 level 3 mil nodes before you get to the castle I think

[supple yarrow]

what are these things next to helmet

[pastel loom]

Is buying the pack the only way to get into the alpha 2 testing?

[tender siren]

ear buds?

[raven grotto]

earing?s

[digital yacht]

A guild that captures a castle will own that castle for a month before it is sieged again.[3]

In the first three weeks that a guild occupies a castle they will need to level up each of their castle nodes to Village stage through questing.[3]
The fourth week is declaration week, where other guilds have the opportunity to lay down their declaration flag or to sign up as a defender of the castle.[3]

[tough sierra]

cherries

[supple yarrow]

ear buds lmao

[digital yacht]

8 Armor slots
5 Jewelry slots
2 Weapons slots
1 Ranged slot

[supple yarrow]

no but for real, that stuff is on the wiki. so are there really earrings ?

[crisp holly]

@pastel loom Yes

[digital yacht]

2/5 of the jewelry slots

[supple yarrow]

earrings is pretty weird

[slow meadow]

@wicked heath if the guild defends the castle nodes well they get bolstered defenses but the siege still happens.

[wicked heath]

The mayors of the surrounding cities can sabatoge guilds that attack their monarch, as well as directly support the incumbent in the defense with money and other resources, most likely even quests that mayors can give to independant players to gather resources to defend the monarch

[tender siren]

why would earrings be weird? it's a fantasy MMO

[spiral vessel]

Is it possible to play ashes today?

[desert ivy]

Get a job at Intrepid and you can play today

[dusk pebble]

lol

[unkempt oracle]

Will there be an in-game voice chat?

[digital yacht]

yes

[spiral vessel]

Jahlon I think I started watching your 7 hour interview

[wicked heath]

well they could directly kill the guild leader that is attempting to set the declaration flag down, and prevent him from placing it until the declaration period is up

[supple yarrow]

idk i dislike a ton of gear, like earrings

[spiral vessel]

Alpha 1 starts later this year?

[ionic breach]

I watched 2 hours of it yesterday @spiral vessel

@simple ether

Ima watch the rest today hopefully

[ivory dust]

If the game is so far out, why are there guilds recruiting already? Jeez, seems crazy to do so this early.

[desert ivy]

Play alphas and betas together as well as getting to know each other

[digital yacht]

cuz they play other gaes too

games*

[desert ivy]

Plus a lot of the guild don't jusit play Ashes

[wicked heath]

a lot of top guilds form in beta

[spiral vessel]

If I get the $500 donation on Kickstarter I’ll get invited to the alpha 1?

[crystal beacon]

That’s pretty standard in crowdfunded MMOs at this point.

[digital yacht]

@spiral vessel its unavailble KS is no more

[crystal beacon]

Kickstarter closed a few years ago

[slow meadow]

@spiral vessel the earliest access you can purchase from the store at this time is Alpha 2.

[spiral vessel]

Ah I see so just the intrepid website for alpha 2

Gotcha

[fickle hawk]

if u put ur freehold against a mountain would u be able to have be half inside the mountain

that would be so cool

[raven grotto]

aww yeah that would be

[woven vale]

I want a node inside a mountain with a river leading to it that could promote trade.

[ivory dust]

Do we know how many characters they'll allow you to have per server?

[jaunty gazelle]

can i still purchase beta keys for friends?

[slow meadow]

@fickle hawk there is a limitation that it can't be placed to close to hard terrain which includes mountains, so that will not be possible.

[digital yacht]

@ivory dust 8-10k concurrent players, each account can have a comfortable amount of chars, (meaning over 3)

[fickle hawk]

@slow meadow are there nodes ten inside mountains or neither

[inner ether]

Is it possible to download the game client just bought the 75$ pack

[digital yacht]

no

[slow meadow]

@fickle hawk there is the underrealm which may satisfy what you are after which will have nodes and freeholds and is underground.

[livid sluice]

How big is the under realm?

[digital yacht]

100km2

[crystal beacon]

Alpha 1 starts later this year. Alpha 2, sometime next year. You have access to beta, likely not til early 2022.

[ionic breach]

@inner ether no alpha 1 is this fall the $75 pack is for I believe beta 2

[livid sluice]

1/4 of the overworld?

[fickle hawk]

100km is about 15%

of world map

[digital yacht]

@livid sluice no, the 100km2 of the underrealm is sepereate from the 480km2 of the above world

[fickle hawk]

or i guess closer to 20%

[livid sluice]

I meant size

[inner ether]

@ionic breach ohhh so just making sure are they gonna have the download on steam or from their website directly

[digital yacht]

about 1/5th

@inner ether wont be on steam

[ionic breach]

I don’t know I’m assuming it’s own client @inner ether

[slow meadow]

@inner ether wont be on steam, but they will send you an email with download instructions when the time comes.

[ionic breach]

Since it’ll be subscription based

[inner ether]

Oh ok good I was worried about that

I saw that beta was starting in December

[crystal beacon]

You saw wrong =\

[inner ether]

Damn

[slow meadow]

Alpha 1 is this fall, no dates beyond that at this time.

[fickle hawk]

they did state they want a short beta

so u prob have to wait quite a bit till alpha ends

[slow meadow]

alpha 1 and 2 will be the bulk of testing since that is where the systems are being built out. betas will be more for balance and bug finding.

[pine loom]

how big is the map in game? they say its like 450km but like how much is like 1 tile?

[wicked heath]

What other positions are classified as being part of a node gov., and what powers do they have? if we know

[fickle hawk]

steve stated that i would take multiple hours walking form top right to bottom left

thats about best example we got

[inner ether]

Couple of hours jeez

[slow meadow]

@wicked heath those are still to be determined, but some of the powers will likely be granted by the mayor based on needs for when they are not online.

[wicked heath]

so is the mayor the only one in the node with major power?

as an individual

[inner ether]

I’m kinda glad that only a few people will get to fly instead of a whole server that could be useful in tactical combat or sieges

[livid sluice]

can ships only spawn at coastal nodes?

[slow meadow]

they control which buildings and services get added, tax rates and other items. Steven has mentioned they may be able to delegate some of that power, but I think the default is expected to have it tied up in the mayor. At least for now. Testing may get it adjusted.

[valid owl]

if you chose to play tulnar are you friends that arent able to come to your starting zone since there isnt a gate there?

[wicked heath]

ok so mayors are the most important position in the game

[pine loom]

@fickle hawk yeah i know but how long will it take if u look at the map from square to square?

[inner ether]

Can a mayor be slain?

[boreal abyss]

yes

[fickle hawk]

@pine loom no information on that yet

[pine loom]

@fickle hawk thanks anyway

[slow meadow]

@wicked heath yes they hold the most impactful position to the world and players. I think that is a fair assessment.

[fickle hawk]

a castle nodes zone of influence is 20% of the map

[midnight crag]

@valid owl I believe you can go to their starter zone

[analog linden]

@livid sluice deep into the 7 hr Jahlon Q&A video he said that you cant summon new ships at see

[boreal abyss]

Yes, can only summon boats while on shore

[analog linden]

sea*

[ivory dust]

Do we have any information on how many creature types the summoner can do?

[boreal abyss]

We do not

[fickle hawk]

@ivory dust depends on ur class

[raven grotto]

tulnar start where everyone else does right?

[fickle hawk]

summoners can do 3 at the time

[slow meadow]

@ivory dust we have very little class information at this point. most of it is just broad strokes. A1 will bring more information for all the classes during its duration.

[inner ether]

When you do a castle siege can you destroy walls

[fickle hawk]

but some archetypes change that

[analog linden]

@raven grotto yes they changed it so they start with everyone else

[boreal abyss]

@raven grotto that is what they have said before at least

[ivory dust]

I know the summoner can do spirit animals, zombie somethings, be cool if there were demons but guess we'll see

[slow meadow]

@inner ether yes that is expected from the tech demo they have shown off previously.

[inner ether]

I’m going into this blind so I have a lot of dumb questions

[wicked heath]

are there a limit to the amount of citizens a metro can have? are there ways to prevent certain players from becoming citizens?

[boreal abyss]

that is what this channel is for

[analog linden]

@inner ether thats what this channel is for no worries

[boreal abyss]

@wicked heath Yes, citizenship with have a limit to numbers to make people spread out between nodes

[ivory dust]

Has there been any information on how hard it'll be to change your secondary class?

[analog linden]

@wicked heath only people that own a house can be citizens so if there is no houseing to buy you cant become a citizen

[inner ether]

Ok what is the currency is like gold silver copper or is it a different

[boreal abyss]

there are no ways to prevent people from becoming though
except maybe the Mayor's "Outlaw" stamping someone

[fickle hawk]

@ivory dust u can look up all animals we know for now ont he wiki https://nl.ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner

[slow meadow]

@wicked heath its been referred to as a soft cap so its likely something that we'll see adjusted during testing as well.

[wicked heath]

ok so once a node is under an alliance/guilds control they could theoretically be maxed on citizens are not be at risk for outside people joining and becoming mayor

[boreal abyss]

Yes

[slow meadow]

I would expect that to be very hard to do at higher levels of node though. A metro is going to support a large population.

[boreal abyss]

@inner ether Gold, just that

[wicked heath]

yea im thinking of late server development politics, like best way to control castle + metro and the castle region in general

and node lvl 4/5 mayors and citizens seem to be the most important thing to control

[boreal abyss]

as well as currency used in relation to one of the "organizations" in game, but that is more tied to their individual progress

@ivory dust only that changing 2nd class will not be easy and be time consuming, nothing more is known

[remote osprey]

was there any info about handling situation of low population server? as most things are player driven reaching "end game" would take years compared to other servers, wouldn't it?

[boreal abyss]

if a server population gets too low, it will most likely end up being merged with another

but specific details regarding such a server merge is unknown

[wicked heath]

are there going to be religious wars or any other wars that are caused by player influence on the in-game social organizations such as thieves guild?

in the wiki it says that the thieves guild may give you quests for wargoals

[fickle hawk]

we dont know anything about full blown war

but th ere is a example that rogues guild steals a book from a temple

so u get a quest to steal a book/object from the religous nodes temple for the thieves guild

[wicked heath]

theoretically a path of progression could be locked behind a society questline and you might be forced towards a war goal that is decided by NPCs? would it be direct war declaration or actions that can only be completed through war?

so if you had unfied control over a castle region, would you just end up "gaming" the quasi wars that the instituions force?

[fickle hawk]

for example 2 metro nodes 1 with thieves guild 1 with temples and the one node gives a quest to weaken the temple node by stealing objects in preparation for war

[wicked heath]

Ok i see it now, how the institions in one node act depend on the relationship of the nodes to each other

[fickle hawk]

yea thats basicly the whole game

ur relation with nodes

[fallow bridge]

Has there been any disscussion about a catch up system ( or lack there of hopefully )?

[wicked heath]

yea but I was trying to figure out of social organizations could force war

[fickle hawk]

for as far as i know so far cant force it

dont know if it will be added later

[wicked heath]

that is the conclusion I came to as well

[slow meadow]

@fallow bridge no catch up mechanic at this time.

[stable plover]

@fallow bridge I don't think there's been word of catch up systems, but note that gear in general isn't soulbound which could make it possible to deliberately gear others relatively easily

[fallow bridge]

Okay good to hear, thank you for the responces. As a fomer disgruntled WOW player im concerned about some "game breaking" features. How does gear progression work? considering the node will be max level, how long will it take for some elite level guilds to have content on farm?

[livid sluice]

what type of elemental magic will there be?

[fickle hawk]

@fallow bridge content on farm is basicly impossible because of the node system

[slow meadow]

@fallow bridge that a pretty big question, I would recommend heading over to the wiki or to Ashes 101 to deep dive in to those topics.

[fickle hawk]

the world chances every new nodes get build and upgraded and destroyed

changes*

@livid sluice elemental magic in all classes or only mages

[stable plover]

@fallow bridge So one of the big things is getting the 'correct/best' gear for people - A max level node unlocks a particular raid, but locks out other raids including the loot tables belonging to those bosses, making those item inaccessible until other nodes replace the existing ones. -> There's then strategies like stockpiling gear from the current raid bosses, there are also things like legendary items involving legendary quests to work towards, there's also an overenchanting system to combine multiple peices of high end gear into a stronger version at risk of destroying the item -> Gear isn't repaired as a gold sink, gear is repaired using mats from the tier of the gear (raid bosses include mats in their loot tables)

[slow meadow]

@livid sluice https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Elements its not an exact list since its still in development but will give you an idea where they are right now.

[wicked heath]

have they said anything else about guild wars? do we know if it involves destruction of a node, and what the criteria are for declaring it?

[stable plover]

@wicked heath https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guild_wars -> everything we know

[slow meadow]

@wicked heath a guild war will have objective based components but is not tied to nodes directly. There will be victory and surrender conditions and you can have more than one war going at a time.

[stable plover]

Guild wars are seperate from node destruction

[wicked heath]

ok good good

[livid sluice]

will there be goblins?

A standard in all mmo

[fickle hawk]

@livid sluice yera

[fallow bridge]

@slow meadow okay I've skimemd the wiki, but will revisit for a more indepth read. Maybe I'll partition my question. Lets say I have S teir level gear or best in slot for all my slots, considering one of my main motivations to raid PVE content is to make my character more powerful, what would motivate me to raid in another node? @stable plover thanks for the reponce I say it as I was typing this follow up and it cleared it up a bit.

[fickle hawk]

yea

[stable plover]

@livid sluice yes, they previewed a goblin model on last months livestream

[livid sluice]

big goblin or small goblin?

[supple yarrow]

all gear degrades?

[slow meadow]

goblin

[livid sluice]

Primitives or armed?

[fickle hawk]

@supple yarrow yes

[supple yarrow]

interesting

[fickle hawk]

and repair is not just gold

[stable plover]

The devs tend to be very tight on the lore, aka we don't know anything about goblin society atm other than that there are multiple types of goblins.

[raven grotto]

kill the goblin! 1 isn't bad but when they swarm !

[livid sluice]

I shall become goblin Slayer

[slow meadow]

@fallow bridge gear degrades and will need high level mats to be repaired if its high level gear. not to mention that there is a lot of horizontal progression in gear. it isn't all vertical like a traditional thempark mmo.

[crystal beacon]

@fallow bridge Well, first, I don’t think you’ll get full S tier gear without raiding in another node. Next, with the dynamic difficulty system of bosses, you likely won’t be seeing the SS tier gear on your first couple runs through.

(Sorry wrong ping)

[supple yarrow]

kek

[raven grotto]

At what point are they thinking of implementing the SAO/Log Horizon/Overlord/Re aspect where we are all sucked into the game?

[crystal beacon]

Not soon enough imo

[fallow bridge]

@slow meadow that's an interesting concept about gear deterioration. Thanks for the responce, consider my questions are based in some friction from the WOW model, where once you have content on farm the game becomes quite stale until the next update or expac. @crystal beacon thanks for your answer, I definately wouldn't expect to get bis after quite some time, the question was more looking past the horizon.

[raven grotto]

shucks

[whole dawn]

according to SAO, its only like 10 more years right

oh wait, SAO takes place in 2022

[fickle hawk]

the moment bmi(brainwave machine interface are better

[raven grotto]

sry

[hazy cosmos]

Im new to the MMO genre other than ESO (which ive played a lot of). Does anyone have any recommendations for an MMO to play that will play out "similar" to AOC?

[whole dawn]

@simple ether what do we know about summoners so far? could a summoner spawn a summon that acts as a summoner to create more summons

[fickle hawk]

all we know so far https://nl.ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner

[crystal beacon]

I just reset my password how long does it take before I can login?

Anybody got a rough idea

[tough sierra]

Will different pets have different abilities/stats or will it just be considered 'pet' stats

[crystal beacon]

Oh cool thanks have to do this migration thing haha

[minor elm]

Will Ashes ever have a 1 time fee promo? LOTRO was a subscription based MMORPG but they did a promo at the start of the game that you paid $200 and had a lifetime account, would that ever happen?

[tough sierra]

How will pets be balanced against players who dont use them? Damage debuff with pet out?

[fickle hawk]

if u want a pet u do lower damage

damn jahlon ur so fast lol

[wicked heath]

im sure this has been answered, but can a parent node attack one of its vassals? or one of its vassal's allies>

[minor elm]

Is alpha one testing already over or is there a way to get access to it?

[tough sierra]

is there a page i can look at for how vassals work and vassal chains? seems like a big question to ask ehre

[crystal beacon]

Is there something like a GE or ingame market trade place?

[minor elm]

Just wondering because the preorder packages only allow A2 access

[fickle hawk]

@tough sierra https://nl.ashesofcreation.wiki/Zone_of_influence

[wicked heath]

there are trading places but they are mostly localized, nothing global

[fickle hawk]

yes A1 acces stopped in 2018

nothing global no

[tough sierra]

Once a node reaches metropolis level, will the entire area of the node consist of the city?

I guess im asking for the scale of each node and metropolis-sized cities

[fickle hawk]

no there can be citys under a metropolis node

[wicked heath]

he is asking the scale of the actual city in relation to the node it is in

[boreal abyss]

the Node is the City @tough sierra

[fickle hawk]

0,5km in diameter

[boreal abyss]

If you mean the area the Node resides in, then no, will not be as large as an entire zone

[wicked heath]

lmao that would be a huge ass city

[fickle hawk]

yes will be massive

[tough sierra]

cheers, the video on the ZoI wiki page doesnt exactly do a great job of showing the size difference between each advancement

[fickle hawk]

but the higher ur node level

the bigger the influence too

[wicked heath]

and the more vassals you have

[fickle hawk]

only 5 metros can exist at the same time

[whole dawn]

a metropolis is only .5km in diameter? isnt that pretty small

[wicked heath]

yea but they will start out in different situations

whoever gets organized at a metro+vassal level first will become a large metro empire

[fickle hawk]

honestly dont have a good comparison right now

so wil have to wait till a1

[supple yarrow]

is that beetlejuice ?

[wicked heath]

yes

[supple yarrow]

xD ay

funny guy

[minor elm]

Is there an ETA on open beta?

[crystal beacon]

There won’t be an open beta, at least there isn’t one planned.

[slow meadow]

@minor elm no open beta. alpha 1 begins this fall. no dates beyond that.

[slate fox]

buy to play alpha and beta as well

[minor elm]

The packages say the only give Alpha 2 access not Alpha 1

[limber tendon]

Hey guys I have a quick question is it possible to develop a Metropolis on an island node?

[slow meadow]

yes any node can grow to metropolis size

[slate fox]

alpha 1 is sull i heard

[crystal beacon]

Yes, you can’t buy alpha 1 access anymore

[limber tendon]

what if the island i small?

[fickle hawk]

yes u can but will be hard since u need materials

[limber tendon]

can it still turn out to be a metropolis?

[fickle hawk]

so technicaly yes u can

but will be harder

[limber tendon]

oh that sounds really fun

must be very nice to defend in wars

[slow meadow]

if it houses a node then it would have to be at least large enough to house the metropolis.

[crystal beacon]

I imagine a node just wouldn’t spawn on a island too small to hold a metro

[limber tendon]

oh yeah you're right

thanks for the answers

[wicked prism]

Will secondary archetypes drastically augment your core abilities? For example would a Hunter's melee abilities be augmented to range abilities?

[fickle hawk]

dont know enought aoout augment system

augment will come in a1

[supple yarrow]

are there nodes in water area?

[copper sphinx]

if a node gets destroyed can it eventually recover after a long period of time? if it can, will it have the same layout (i know it will still be same type of node)?

[crystal beacon]

It can be built up same as any other node

[fickle hawk]

also depends on what race put in most experience with the rebuild

[copper sphinx]

okay i wasnt sure if the procedural tech would change it at all.

[fickle hawk]

some races metro look different from others

• node type

[supple yarrow]

since there are no factions will there be race wars?

[fickle hawk]

not race wars all depends on where u allign u rslef

[daring ginkgo]

node wars

[wicked prism]

@simple ether Thanks, so if I wanted a hybrid melee/ranged I could get a variety of ranged and melee abilities from some combination of ranger with rogue/fighter/tank in either primary or secondary archetypes?

[supple yarrow]

ok

[slow meadow]

@supple yarrow wars will revolve around castles, nodes, and guilds.

[crystal beacon]

@wicked prism theoretically yes, we don’t have any definite answers about the exact augmentations that will be available

[icy sail]

Hello! How can we prevent people migrating to big nodes (not necessarily lv.6) for better content instead of maintaining villages and smaller encampments which is equal to be the lowest group in the vassal chain?

[fickle hawk]

@wicked prism https://nl.ashesofcreation.wiki/Archetypes

[crystal beacon]

@icy sail A node can only hold so many citizens, as well

[icy sail]

Well, that's true but population of the server might decay at some point.

[fickle hawk]

the mayor of a metro can only build so many houses and u need a house to be a citizen

[crystal beacon]

Then they’ll consider server merges at that point

[wicked heath]

is the only way to get somone else to lose citizen ship through node destruction or node decay? assuming they did not leave it on their own

[crystal beacon]

You can just kill them every time they show their face. ...but yes, as far as we know currently, you can’t revoke citizenship.

[slow meadow]

@icy sail citizenship cap is a soft cap and will likely change with the server population and spread. Also the content that you want to participate in may not be tied to the node that is currently a metropolis. Smaller nodes also provide content that is more suited to lower and middle level characters. So lot of variety to address that issue.

[icy sail]

Soft cap is pretty nice in that regard

[crystal beacon]

Yeah, apartment prices increase based on amount of houses already present

[ashen ferry]

can someone share the testing schedule sheet?

[fickle hawk]

https://nl.ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule

[ashen ferry]

thank you

[wicked heath]

are hunting certificates a specific currency or just a catch all of tradable goods from monsters

[dark jungle]

they are a technical term for things that mobs drop

[fickle hawk]

as u get gold in other games

u get certificates in this game

[wicked heath]

ok so its not like a single currency

[dark jungle]

no, certificates are types of drop like pelts

they are also regional specific

[fickle hawk]

i think it depends on the the creature

[celest delta]

Are mounts account or character base

[dark jungle]

mounts are character based, mount skins are account based

[celest delta]

Is there a storage and if so a account storage?

[slow meadow]

@wicked heath so as others touched on a certificate could be an item like a pelt, whose value varies based on region. So pelts gathered in the north may not be worth much if sold there since they are plentiful. But taken to the south you may get more for them.

[dark jungle]

@celest delta yes https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Storage

you dont have global storage though

but you can transfer items through storage to alts

[fickle hawk]

u got store in ur node

and can build storage in ur house and freehold too

[near knot]

Has there been hints that any of the archetypes will have wind based abilities?

[dark jungle]

yes

there will be elemental abilities @near knot

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Elements

[fickle hawk]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes#Classes_by_archetype_combination

[near knot]

I saw that but only saw lightening and fire abilities

[dark jungle]

wind has not be specifically mentioned, but its likely

[whole dawn]

theres also ice and earth

[fickle hawk]

we just dont have any info on spells

most spells will come with a1

[latent parcel]

Can i use a meteor spell instead of using trebuchet

for a raid

[fickle hawk]

u dont use trebuchet in a raid

or u mean sieges

then yes

[latent parcel]

siege

sorry

[fickle hawk]

but we dont know that much about sieges really

[slow meadow]

in siege you would not use a meteor in place of a trebuchet as siege weapons are their own thing, but as a mage if you have a meteor spell you could use that for fighting during the siege.

[latent parcel]

no i mean to deal damage to walls

[wicked heath]

does this refer to the allies of the nodes government? seperate from guild allies (they can overlap of course)

[slow meadow]

tbd during testing. We dont have that detail yet. It's possible they will have spells deal damage to walls but may balance it so that the siege weapons are most effective.

[fickle hawk]

if walls have health bars we can assume u can attack them

[twilit granite]

Ok so I just want to know if I’m on the right track here. So if I was mining ores in the mountains and brought my ore to say a plaines or tropical area they will be worth more since they don’t have as much ore does that sound right?

[fickle hawk]

but we go no quote on that

not only that

mountain to plain matters

but also just distance

if u go from plane to plane 200 kilometers further

also gives more money

[twilit granite]

Ok I gotcha

[slow meadow]

@twilit granite each region will have varied resources so the markets will reflect that in their prices based on availability and demand.

[crystal beacon]

Not necessarily

[fickle hawk]

and also how much of that ore is in circulation

[crystal beacon]

It depends on the availability in that region as well

[twilit granite]

Is there any way to check availability before setting off or just visit and check before u move the goods?

[fickle hawk]

not that i know of

[crystal beacon]

You can ask someone there, otherwise ya gotta hoof it

[latent parcel]

and one more thing i head that ashes was a subscription based game where you had to pay 15$ a month to play

[crystal beacon]

It is

[fickle hawk]

correct

[twilit granite]

Yep

[full badger]

Since there's no global auction house you'll just have to visit each node individually to find out

[slow meadow]

markets are regional unless you get an economic node to metro in which case you will have the linked (still have to go to the location to retrieve your purchase though)

[latent parcel]

why not just have it 60 dollars up from and a cosmetics shop

front

[iron python]

Will you be able to see what the current BUY price of a material is without having it in your current inventory?

[twilit granite]

Ok thanks for the info honestly that is my favorite mechanic in the game bring rare mats and items to other regions so I’m looking forward to it

[remote moat]

if u preorder u get 25$ ingame credits and your able to play in alpha and u get 2 months free when it comes out its 75$ to preorder though

[crystal beacon]

Because sub fees generate more money over time

[iron python]

As in you are selling to merchant

[fickle hawk]

@latent parcel they could not support later updates over time with that

[crystal beacon]

75 dollar preorder package does not get you alpha access

[full badger]

btw guys, friendly reminder that this channel is for questions and answers. Having extra discussion on top of that clogs up the channel and makes it harder to answer the actual questions. Please use the #aoc-discussion and #general-discussion channels for discussions

[wicked heath]

to declare a node war do the nodes need to be next to eachother? can vassals declare node wars on other nodes not vassalized by the parent?

[fickle hawk]

@wicked heath yes u can destoy lower nodes

in a higher nodes zone

[slow meadow]

vassal nodes cannot declare on their parent.

[wicked heath]

as long as the parent of the nodes are not allied

i guess

[fickle hawk]

aslong as ur node is outside the zones of influence too

[crystal beacon]

Don’t have to be next to each other and I believe vassal nodes can declare on nodes outside their parents ZOI

[wicked heath]

ok

[fickle hawk]

yea alsong as its outside zone of influence

[latent parcel]

will they eventually lower the price to around
10$ a month

maby less

[wicked heath]

no

[crystal beacon]

Not likely

[fickle hawk]

not likely

[iron python]

I guess another way to phrase my question is this: Can I go to a node, and see what is currently scarce? So I can then go farm that and then return to the node to sell it?

[wicked heath]

the nodes will be in different economic regions

[slow meadow]

@iron python yes you could check the auction board

[crystal beacon]

Only economic nodes will have auction houses

[latent parcel]

yes but to transport items you will use a caravan

[wicked heath]

you could check the markets for specific prices, but the economic region will give you a general hint of what can be traded there for high value

[fickle hawk]

all nodes have markets but only economic nodes have auction houses and marketplacezx

[latent parcel]

honestally i

[iron python]

I want to know if I can see the selling price of current items, even if I don't have the item in my inventory

[fickle hawk]

@iron python unlikely

since the information scaresity is part of the game

[wicked heath]

I would imagine you could, but they most likely wont have a public server api for 3rd party market trackers

[fickle hawk]

but if ur whole server is on a discord or something

[latent parcel]

will they add more function to militaristic nodes so they have more function

[fickle hawk]

u could say were low on this or that

[wicked heath]

well yea then you would...

[iron python]

So word of mouth only

[fickle hawk]

they havent released 2 nodes type blog yet

[crystal beacon]

I'm actually kinda curious about how the economy will work. If I get my hands on something that I decide to just sell it, would there be some kind of Grand Exchange a la Runescape, would there be a bunch of caravans going between economic nodes that would move the item somewhere else to be sold, what's the situation there?

[fickle hawk]

military is 1 of them as far as i know

[wicked heath]

no, there is no global action house

[hoary wind]

how do I get the launcher for the game? do i just wait for an email?

[fickle hawk]

if u got pre order then yes u willg et an email

[wicked heath]

economic metropolises can have an auction house that can trade in all nodes under the economic metropolises ZOI

[desert ivy]

You wait till your testing phase starts or wait until the game launches

[crystal beacon]

There are only auction houses inside of economic nodes, and they are local to that node’s ZOI

[iron python]

If I sell my leather at a merchant in a node, will that leather then be purchasable by someone else? Or are the merchants pre determined in what they sell

[hoary wind]

gotcha, thanks for the info guys

[crystal beacon]

We’re not even in Alpha 1 yet so it will be awhile.

[wicked heath]

@iron python I dont think we know if the items sold to NPCs will be recirculated, like albion

[fickle hawk]

u can also sell it in a personal store

[crystal beacon]

There will be player market stalls in non-economic nodes so I doubt there will be recirculating through NPCs

[slow meadow]

@iron python merchants will be very limited in what they sell because the economy is meant to be primarily player driven. So you can expect some base level items to be sold but more uncommon things will be only available through players.

[crystal beacon]

I know there's a trend where a lot of MMOs will get an inflation problem with the in-game economy. Is there some kind of plan in place to handle/prevent that kind of thing?

[fickle hawk]

this game has many incentives and sinks

[crystal beacon]

Gear degrades and takes mats to repair, %of mats are destroyed during sieges

Gear upgrades have a %chance of failing and destroying the gear

[slow meadow]

@crystal beacon there are many gold and material sinks, including upkeep on nodes, durability on gear being non trivial, node sieges, castle sieges, caravans and more. plenty of ways to keep the economy healthy by adjusting over time.

[fickle hawk]

tools such as axes have a life time

so u need new ones

alot of different way to sink

but inflations in never and easy fix so we just have to see in alphas

[stable plover]

@iron python Quests can be generated by the nodes government to try and collect the materials the node is scarce on, so you could find those quests and then fulfill them

[boreal abyss]

@wicked heath Do note that even if there is an "AH" in economic nodes
You still have to physically move to the location you purchased stuff from to pick it up

You can only "buy from a distance" if anything

[stable plover]

@crystal beacon They also plan on including some scaling gold sinks, like making items sold by npcs more expensive when more people try buying it.

[plush zenith]

@stable plover that looks very difficult to balance

[crystal beacon]

Caravans can become naval caravans if the destination crosses a body of water, correct?

That’s the plan

[slow meadow]

correct, but its not instantaneous so they can be attacked during the transition so there is some added risk to that.

[fickle hawk]

and if u destroy a caravan the attacker gains a % of the loot but also a % will be destroye d

so incentive to attack and also a sink

[iron python]

If a caravan is destroyed, the person who started it, will they loose ALL resources?

[slow meadow]

yes

[plush zenith]

With the BOUNTY HUNTERS System , who gives you a reward ? NPC ? What can stop massive guild from farming a guild member at 4 AM ? Like 50 people are going into a zone , at some random location , and they spawnkill a guild member who became corrupt so they farm reward

[fickle hawk]

the reward is the kill form the corrupted player

as far as i know

[crystal beacon]

Theres a BH progression system

[fickle hawk]

since corrupted can drop completed gear as wel as supplies

[crystal beacon]

But that guild member would gain mountains of exp debt

[plush zenith]

@crystal beacon doesn't matter he can't deleveld

[crystal beacon]

Your stats lower.

[plush zenith]

and by dying , he will loose coruption

[stable plover]

@plush zenith I think this contains a heap of speculation: NPC in the node, the reward comes out of the nodes funds, Mayor can set the rate for bounty hunting rewards to some extent to affect it's profitability similar to other ways node can adjust it's defense spending

[crystal beacon]

You just don’t lose your skills.

[slow meadow]

@plush zenith he will not stay corrupt indefinitely either. being killed reduces corruption.

[crystal beacon]

He’d have to have someone else to kill to gain corruption as well

[plush zenith]

When you die , you loose corruption points and start getting normal again, but he can again kill a guild member to reset his corruption

[crystal beacon]

So that’s two people tanking their stats and gaining exp debt

[plush zenith]

it's easy to setup

[past ridge]

could a group of around 30 players grief a single dude by taking turns killing him so they dont get too much corruption?

[indigo obsidian]

that its actually confirmed or its speculation?

[fickle hawk]

technically yes

but steven said that they will test all this in a1

[crystal beacon]

What, that stats can be lowered as if you lose levels but you won’t actually lose levels and the skills associated with them? Confirmed afaik

[fickle hawk]

and close loopholes

[plush zenith]

@past ridge when corrupted you spawn at random location , it would take a lot of player to be everywhere in the zone

What, that stats can be lowered as if you lose levels but you won’t actually lose levels and the skills associated with them? Confirmed afaik
@crystal beacon you never loose level

[crystal beacon]

That is what I said, yes...

[plush zenith]

And even if they can rotate the person being corrupted , so one never have to much exp debt

[fickle hawk]

even if u cant lose level u r stats can go lower then whats normal for ur level

so basicly u get the same stats as below ur level

[plush zenith]

There is so many flaws I can think of with the BH, but since @stable plover has stated , if the reward is player driven, I'm scared taxe money can be thief by this system

[fickle hawk]

and dont forget its not even a1 alot of loophole found in a1 will be closed before relase

[slow meadow]

@plush zenith when you kill the corrupted player they respawn randomly the distance to travel is non trivial since there is no fast travel. farming like that would be incredibly difficult. not to mention the having to build corruption after constantly losing it. There would be far more efficient ways to gain rewards. I don't think it will be nearly the problem you are making it out to be. But that is what testing is for. Plenty of people will try to game every system during the alphas.

[torpid lance]

Whats the member cap of a guild?

[desert ivy]

What if all 30 of those jackass members control all 30 flying mounts on the server

[plush zenith]

@slow meadow okay nice to heareventough everygame is different. I used to play on a MMO with bounty rewards , it had many flaws and the dev shut it down after a few month lol

[slow meadow]

300 if you choose all the perks to raise cap @torpid lance

[indigo obsidian]

@desert ivy that would be monopoly xD

[boreal abyss]

the system will not place a "bounty" on someone's head with rewards

[stable plover]

@torpid lance 30-50 without talents up to 300 with talents -> you could have spent the guild talents on other things

[fickle hawk]

@desert ivy that is basicly impossible

[past ridge]

yea I'm just scared this game could turn into something you can't even play properly unless you're in a huge guild of hundreds of players

[boreal abyss]

A mayor might be able to do so with the "outlaw" system tho for all we know

[past ridge]

something like albion or tibia

[fickle hawk]

since all castle and metro leaders would need to co me together for that to happen

[torpid lance]

is there a page of the talents or not yet

[past ridge]

boi i'm excited for this game

[boreal abyss]

no

[desert ivy]

Yeah I have a page

[slow meadow]

@torpid lance we are still in pre-alpha so we really just have broad strokes at this point for all the systems.

[wicked heath]

will AOI between nodes above level 3 always clash or could a metro's AOI take over a level 4 node that is already founded a couple of nodes away

[fickle hawk]

every upgrade of the node increases the zoi so if u upgrade to metro u can get in reach on new areas

also the only way how 2 metros could be close together

but unlikely

[wicked heath]

i mean does the ZOI enslave for a metro or only if they are directly next to it

[torpid lance]

lets say you have a group of 400 people so you split into 2 to 3 guilds and become allies can you group with your allies and how many alllies can you have

[stable plover]

@wicked heath I think it's possible for nodes in a line to go something like 5-3-4-3 -> because 4-3-4 was probably a valid combination at some point

[wicked heath]

would the 4 be seperate from the 5 if it was founded before 5'

[fickle hawk]

not stated how many allies u can have

[wicked heath]

5's ZOI got to it

[fickle hawk]

but there is a cap

[wicked heath]

4 guild alliances with 300 cap per guild for official in-game alliances

[fickle hawk]

ooh didnt know the cap was already known

but yea its 4

[stable plover]

@wicked heath I would expect them to have seperate Zoi's I suppose, since in the 4-3-4 combination the 3 would belong to one or the other of the 4s <- pretty speculative topic

[fickle hawk]

i assume it based on wich one upgrades first to 4

[wicked heath]

would all of them be vassals of a 4? do the clashes of ZOI only happen once the ZOI are on the same level?

like will a high level ZOI supercede a lower level node's ZOI and vassilize it

if the lower level node had been there before the higher level node advanced

well we can just talk about it between the two highest nodes in an area

im reading it right now but im really stoned so its not super clear to me

[fickle hawk]

we havent been able to test it so basicly speculation

[wanton cosmos]

hey jahlon

you still here?

[fickle hawk]

hes basicly always here lol

[wanton cosmos]

you mind hopping in the voice chat

arguing over mastery of professions

trust your opinion

[digital yacht]

u can master 1 profression tree, IE Gathering/Processing/Crafting

[severe flame]

Stupid question, why is there so many in general voice?

[raven grotto]

join them and ask?

they been doing that recently ... just an open conversation

[severe flame]

You implying a random gamer who prefer gaming with friends over vast distances will just jump into a call with 20 people just like that?

[raven grotto]

lol

[severe flame]

Outside the house im a outrovert, but at home? Introvert deluxe edition

[crystal beacon]

I mean... why not? Can't be a neet forever

[severe flame]

Only at home sir

Sorry

[plucky pawn]

Hey folks - reminder that this is a channel for questions, not discussion! Our voice channels are open for folks discussing Ashes-related topics as well, and that's what people have been hanging out and doing lately!

[burnt pier]

Any guesses on the cosmetics for next month? Is there any sort of pattern?

[full badger]

@burnt pier Intrepid typically keep the information close to their chest until they are ready to reveal them

[unkempt oracle]

Will the January cosmetic return or am i just potatoed?

[placid vessel]

@unkempt oracle Cosmetics do not re-run.

[swift bay]

any speculation to wen beta two test phase is gonna b?

[placid vessel]

No, we haven't even started a1.

[swift bay]

thot alpha 1 already happened ?

[placid vessel]

No, it's sometime in the fall.

[crystal beacon]

Pre-alpha is ongoing, alpha 1 goes into full swing sometime in the fall.

[swift bay]

oof

this game gonna take another year or two then prob ;-;

[crystal beacon]

At least, yeah.

[swift bay]

patience is a viture

virtue

[narrow yacht]

will there be hunter NPC's in every node?

[storm lichen]

How does the cosmetic add on work, if you have an intrepid pack are you able select individual items or do you have to buy packs still?

[crystal beacon]

Once you own a pack, cosmetics of the same level or lower in future packs are available for purchase individually (I believe, I could be wrong on the "same level or lower" point)

[eternal scroll]

Will the next Alpha let players be level 25? So they can pick the secondary class?

[desert ivy]

No

Alpha 1 is only level 20

[eternal scroll]

ah ok

[swift bay]

i wanna get into a new mmorpg but i dont wanna have to wait a year/two for it, so any have any reccomendations othar than wow lmfao ?

[storm lichen]

I have an intrepid pack but the only items in the shop I see are the voyager packs no individual items. Am I in the wrong place?

[desert ivy]

Are you logged in?

[tulip hatch]

The intrepid pack was renamed
to voyager plus after it lost A1 access and discounted

[storm lichen]

Yes. It was downgraded if you already purchased?

[tulip hatch]

no you still have intrepid pack

[split bay]

where do we submit questions for the AMA ?

[crystal beacon]

Thread will open an hour before it starts

[wanton cosmos]

someone tell me how to make money for teh pre order packs man

[desert ivy]

You submit them in the reddit thread an hour before the AMA

[umbral laurel]

sorry if I am asking bold questions, i'm just being a hyper curious fan boy, in desperate need for a new game. This game has peaked my interest (and the other half's as well) and we want to get in on the ground floor. With recent world events, funds are tight, and I'm trying to reserve funds for a package for early access.

1. How long is the 'summer' event going on / how long do I have to purchase one?

2. What is a current feel of where you guys are in the game? (like how close to alpha 1 launch are you)

3. How long are your Alpha 1 & 2 phases expected to last? (i know most games do every 6 months, but you guys are not most studios)

Again, sorry if this is bold questions, I just can't find anything and have spent a while researching.

[proper grove]

someone tell me how to make money for teh pre order packs man
@wanton cosmos stonks

[sullen wagon]

major stonks

[wanton cosmos]

teach me your ways, master

[knotty dew]

what's the reasoning behind people being able to somewhat see rogues when they are stealthed? doesn't that kind of defeat the whole purpose of the stealth?

[umbral laurel]

How long will the packs be purchasable on the site then? Is there a time limitation to purchase the current packs on the site?

Does the team operate on a fiscal month or a calendar month before rotation of sales?

[wanton cosmos]

Do we know what the next cosmetic items will be based around, or what they are directly>

?

it might be better to not buy until i know i would want ot buy something, right?

[crystal beacon]

Negative

And yes

[sullen wagon]

is there a way to buy JUST the cosmetic pack?

[crystal beacon]

After you own a pack in general you can buy individual cosmetics

[wanton cosmos]

are any of these pre order cosmetic skins coming back, like having a rotation prior to launch?

[umbral laurel]

Is pack purchase A2 access projected to be in the next rotation?

And if I buy a pack, can i upgrade to a 'higher access' pack later?

[crystal beacon]

There may be recolors but not the exact skins

[wanton cosmos]

And are these pre order cosmetic skins going to be gone forever after launch

[crystal beacon]

A1 is next

You can upgrade

And if by gone forever you mean unable to be purchased again, they’re gone forever as soon as they rotate out

Oh, misunderstood

Yes A2 access will be purchaseable for some time

They will give prior notice when they plan on removing it

[sullen wagon]

where can i find the cosmetics?

[severe flame]

in your inventory if you have bought it

[sullen wagon]

i meant to buy

[crystal beacon]

https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop

[sullen wagon]

oh all im seeing is beta/alpha packs

[umbral laurel]

if i chose to upgrade a pack at a later date, will that rotation of cosmetics be included in the upgrade, or is it just the access level?

[crystal beacon]

After you own a pack in general you can buy individual cosmetics

[unkempt oracle]

Does alpha test 2 have EU severs?

[sullen wagon]

i have the 75$ pack and i still dont see individual cosmetics

[analog linden]

Do we know when the cosmetics will change? I want to buy a pack but I'm not loving the swamp cosmetics

[crystal beacon]

I believe you can only purchase cosmetics of the same tier (could be wrong) so you’ll see the new ones next month

August 5th is next rotation

[worldly shale]

So I just recently caught up on all (or most of the content), One big question I have is regarding the corruption system and the declaration of war items. I know theres a time limit of about 20 days between a village being attackable. Can people just farm those declaration of war items in big guilds and continually declare war on smaller villages and camps?

[analog linden]

@simple ether Thanks!

[crystal beacon]

@worldly shale it’s not just one item, there’s a sizeable cost involved as well

[tropic abyss]

Can you teach other people recipes or are they locked to each character?

Oooooh 🤩🤩🤩🤩 You can ruin a market!

[worldly shale]

@simple ether @crystal beacon gottcha so its not something to come by and do all too easily

thanks

[tropic abyss]

starts dancing

[dry cypress]

Hi guys, i have a little question about professions: as far as i understand, you will be able to level up your professions and alocate some points in some kinda of a skill tree that effect the craft? sorry about some gramatical errors, english isnt my main lang

[tropic abyss]

Thanks @simple ether !

[dry cypress]

so, we will be able to create an unique build for pra profession ? or everyone in some way have the same end?

for my* profession

[analog linden]

@simple ether can you think of any reason to specialize in the middle/refining Artisan system right now? It seems like getting more materials or crafting the best items would be way more powerful to me

[dry cypress]

we can imagine something in a complex level like POE or something smaller?

[crystal beacon]

Someone will have to, and since it’ll likely be the least popular it’ll likely have the highest potential profit, imo

[slow meadow]

@analog linden you cant craft the best items without the highest quality processed goods. each one has levels and quality and you have to maintain it through the chain for the highest end crafts

[dry cypress]

dude, you just got me!

[analog linden]

@slow meadow that makes sense, Thanks!

[winter hearth]

hello, when i click in ashes of creation: apocalypse website to register, i do it, and what do i do to start playing it? i need to wait until i receive invite or something to the game or pay for it?

[hazy cosmos]

if you master one part of the artisan system, are you locked into that one part? or can you master another part of the artisan system by like re specializing?

[supple yarrow]

do you guys have any cool AoC wallpapers or a link?

[crystal beacon]

The game is currently in prealpha, the quickest way to get in is to spend 275 dollars on the alpha 2 pack and wait til alpha 2 starts sometime next year

[iron rune]

Sorry if I'm interupting a conversation, but I got a question and this seems like an appropriate place to ask. So I'm mostly an fps person, but I'm wanting to get into mmorpg games. This games has really peaked my interest, but it appears that this game has waaay more going on than other mmorpgs. What is the best way (other game to play) to get introduced to the genre, so I at least have a clue as to what I'm doing when this game releases?

[dry cypress]

in the interview on asmongold`s channel, I felt that some parts of the crafting system its like Lineage 2 (and i loved that you guys saw that as a good thing), but at the same time, this kinda of crafting system creates a more complex development for new itens, so how much we can imagine the limitations of the crafting? the recipe of a great sword for an exemple will always give me the same great sword or my professions skills will create a completly new item?

[crystal beacon]

I would say FFXIV is the best starter MMO

[slow meadow]

@winter hearth ashes of creation apocalypse was used for testing action combat and is current unavailable as the team focuses on alpha 1. There is currently no testing available. you can purchase alpha 2 access from the store but that will be much further down the road past a1 testing which is slated to start this fall.

[crystal beacon]

Your profession skills as well as the quality of processed materials used should affect the outcome

[winter hearth]

thanks for answer

[umbral laurel]

How does 'upgrading' to the next level pack work? is it like i buy the $150 pack now, and next month i decide i want the $225 one, do I just pay the difference? ($75)

[crystal beacon]

@umbral laurel correct

[slow meadow]

@dry cypress there will be many greatsword variations and you can find blueprints that could be unique to you for a limited time. beyond that as a crafter you will have the ability to tweak some of the stats of the item depending on the need of the person. so not fully custom but plenty of room for diversity.

[iron rune]

@crystal beacon Hmm ok. I looked at several but not that one much. Thanks

[crystal beacon]

@iron rune other decent options include BDO and GW2, but GW2 is a little different than most combat wise, and BDO is just as intimidating as AoC

[dark dagger]

Can ships be destroyed by monsters and or environment.

[iron rune]

@crystal beacon Interesting, I was looking at bdo a lot and thought it would be simpiler since it doesn't have raids and such from what I learned.

[slow meadow]

@dark dagger they have raids listed under naval content and have mentioned krakens so most likely.

[crystal beacon]

@iron rune it’s more the everything else of BDO that’a overwhelming, there’s just a lot going on through the leveling process and it’s easy to get lost if you don’t know where to focus

[dry cypress]

hmmm...i see. i was imagining something like: you are a swordsmith, and you go out on the world and find an old instructions on how to make a sword of level X, and you can go home and use some materials to craft and i will create a sword of the type of this 'recipe' i found, locked with some stats and i will be able to change others?

or it will be more restrict the variations of the recipe but the craftiong will be more focus on changing minor stats on the item?

[static mural]

Been keeping up with this semi-casually thought about grabbing the dark allegiance bundle but i see it went away when i went to buy it today. Will that ever return? or will it be available after launch because I do not like the look of the current packs.

[crystal beacon]

So are the free holds set on preset areas of land? Or do we just free place them

[slow meadow]

@dry cypress yes though that recipe will not be locked to you forever. you will have limited time exclusive rights to it.

[dry cypress]

can i make a sugestion to the system?

[slow meadow]

@crystal beacon mostly a free placement with some restrictions to where they can be placed. you can see restrictions here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds

[crystal beacon]

Thanks

[dry cypress]

do you have a specific place for it or i can do it here?

[gritty osprey]

Hi, is it possible to upgrade my game package from their store?

Thank you!

[dark dagger]

Are freeholds destroyed when the node it's under is seiged?

[dry cypress]

so, i will look on the forum and see if someone already did

[iron rune]

@crystal beacon Ok, I think I'll look into FFXIV more and make a decision between that and BDO. Hopefully mmobyte, asmongold, etc have helpful videos. Thanks again

[slow meadow]

@dark dagger if the node is successfully sieged then freeholds can be attacked for 2 hours after.

[dark dagger]

Thanks

[umbral laurel]

If i buy a pack this month, and then upgrade the pack at a later date (in a different cosmetic pack rotation), do i get the cosmetics from both packs?

[crystal beacon]

@static mural It will not return but it will rotate into different cosmetics in a couple weeks.

[whole dawn]

@simple ether what are ur thoughts on having pvp immunity around divine gates so the beggining area isnt a clusterfuck. I think it was asmon that said the beginning area shouldnt have pvp

[stable plover]

@umbral laurel You keep the original cosmetics, and only get the new cosmetics from the higher tier of the new pack (not any from the second month at the level of your old pack)

[whole dawn]

also, if u buy a pack, it says you get money for the cash shop, can u use that money on cosmetics from other packs

[crystal beacon]

Not on the cosmetics from the preorder packs, no.

[weak heron]

I dont think they can be used on other packs

[stable plover]

@whole dawn Embers aren't spendable on things from the pre-order packs

[weak heron]

only on the stuff in the ingame shop when its available

[whole dawn]

im jelly of people that got the oct-nov 2019 pack

[umbral laurel]

are the cosmetic packs that have been in rotation / not coming back expected to be in the cosmetic shop at time of launch?

[knotty dew]

is there some calendar where you can see upcoming cosmetics?

[whole dawn]

no to both ur questions

[crystal beacon]

Cosmetics from prior packs may have recolors in the future but those exact cosmetics won't be seen again.

Big may

[dark dagger]

Do taxes from nodes and castles stack?

[charred glen]

Taxes

[crystal beacon]

*Monarch

😛

[wanton cosmos]

my money

all gone, before i even got any D:

[grim hinge]

(Not a question, but mad respect for 7 hour Q&A @simple ether haha)

[viral lintel]

wondering if there's some sort of rested exp, or if it makes sense to log out at a good grind spot

[crystal beacon]

(Cat co-host was the best part)

[untold maple]

I know nodes will have their node type (scientific/economic/whatever) preset and fixed at the start, but will different servers have different distributions of these? Is there any variation in map layout between servers at day 0?

[dark jungle]

no each server will have the same initial map settings and conditions

[viral lintel]

do players decide what a node will be?

[crystal beacon]

But beyond the first, nodes can spawn at one of a few places within their initial ZoI

[dark jungle]

no the node types are predefined

[crystal beacon]

So they will quickly be at least somewhat different.

[slow meadow]

@viral lintel there will be rested xp. taverns will offer it for those who rent rooms or spend time as patrons.

[charred glen]

@viral lintel they will decide what node they level up, but not the location of the node

[viral lintel]

okay, thanks

[dark dagger]

Do you have to level a node up to see what kind it will be?

[dark jungle]

yes

[viral lintel]

i thought the mayor decides the sort of node on levelup or so

[dark jungle]

but you can tell the node type at the first stage

[slow meadow]

@charred glen @viral lintel the node type is predetemined. you wont know until you level it up to level 1. then you can decide if you want to continue with that one or look for a different type.

[dark jungle]

different node types have different npcs

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_types

[viral lintel]

i wanna live somewhere on the fringes and travel around from there. dont care so much about node type, more about the area

[winter hearth]

why theres no eu mods yet?

[dark jungle]

there are EU mods, they are probably not active right now

[dark dagger]

What's the purpose of the world managers heat map.

[supple yarrow]

it is kinda late in EU atm

[worldly shale]

will the interface be adjustable (I know there won't be addons) and is there a max number of abilities/buttons or do those stack pretty high?

[dark jungle]

the world manager is something that the server uses to ensure the world is developing within desired parameters

the technical workings of it are not known

@worldly shale yes the interface will be adjustable

we dont know much about the UI capabilities at this stage

[worldly shale]

thank you

[upper prawn]

can you kiss men?

[dark jungle]

probably

[tough sierra]

will the Tulnar be playable upon game release

[dark jungle]

yes, tulnar is due out in Alpha 2

[small cave]

Hey guys, i just reread the flagging system, if you are corrupted, a non flagged player can attack you and you can't fight back without getting increased corruption?

[dark jungle]

correct

[small cave]

that's cheap :I

[crystal beacon]

Many people seem to be trying to get that changed. it'll be tested in alpha

[tough sierra]

killing innocents is cheap @small cave

[dark jungle]

devs are aware of that and may decide to change the rules

[small cave]

depends

there might be cases where you have a reason to kill a non flagged player

[umbral laurel]

What are the current recommended and the minimum system requirements?

[small cave]

doubt people will just kill non combatants for fun anyway

[tough sierra]

and you have to face the consequences for doing so

[potent thunder]

Intrepid Studios Support

1: <https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048506033-What-are-the-minimum-requirements-for-Alpha->

...Minimum System Requirements (on lowest settings): Operating System: Windows 10 64-Bit Processor: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016195054-Where-do-I-redeem-my-Kickstarter-code->

...If you're getting this error, it's likely that you already redeemed the code in the old system....

3: <https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360034617134-I-m-not-seeing-my-referral-links-or-unpaid-earnings->

...Our referral system is still a work in progress and our platform team will be adding these items to the account services...

[small cave]

the consequences are fine, but not being able to fight back if you get attacked is rly cheap

[wicked heath]

The game encourages most people to be combatants

[viral lintel]

i actually like the idea of reds running like pussies from a horde of greens

[wicked heath]

So hopefully that will be the largest population

[crystal beacon]

And also aims to discourage killing of greens at the same time. Fragile balance.

[small cave]

from my previous experiences with this kind of system, almost noone flag in for pvp by default

[tough sierra]

If you dont play with combat toggled at all times you're a pussy

[crystal beacon]

When most dungeons are open-world and resources are scarce, there will be plenty of legitimate reasons to flag on people.

[small cave]

And also aims to discourage killing of greens at the same time. Fragile balance.
@crystal beacon The possibility of losing your gear is already a big enough penalty that people wont just go on a rampage for fun

if someone attack you as a green then he should definitely become flagged for pvp

[crystal beacon]

Hope the areas that aren't off limits for placing free holds still have a cool landscape

[tough sierra]

if you dont wanna lose your gear you probably shouldnt rampage

[whole dawn]

is there a ballpark on the number of world bosses that will be in the game?

[tough sierra]

80% of bosses will be open world

[small cave]

The amount of pve players who just want to chase a pvp player JUST because they know he can't fight back would be huge, and that's 0 fun when people wanna pvp but don't wanna put their balls on the table

[upper prawn]

can i make some fortnite burdgers with johnny fortnite and big bong bob?

[crystal beacon]

lol random xD

[viral lintel]

wheres the alarm sirens tho? "this is the question channel, you unwashed peasants" :p

[tough sierra]

@small cave the only people who will be threatened by NCBs are corrupt players

[crystal beacon]

Have they said anything about how many alternate characters you can have?

[small cave]

Again, if there is a corrupt system, it means it will be useful in some circumstances to use it

[tough sierra]

@crystal beacon a comfortable mount

[viral lintel]

The amount of pve players who just want to chase a pvp player JUST because they know he can't fight back would be huge, and that's 0 fun when people wanna pvp but don't wanna put their balls on the table```i find that extremely funny actually and hope it makes it in the release version.

[crystal beacon]

Nothing concrete, just a "comfortable" amount

[mighty skiff]

Do we know how the animal husbandry profession works exactly? Like are rhe animals you tame/mate mounts or are they like pokemon wherw you battle with them? Or something else entirely?

[small cave]

The amount of pve players who just want to chase a pvp player JUST because they know he can't fight back would be huge, and that's 0 fun when people wanna pvp but don't wanna put their balls on the table```i find that extremely funny actually and hope it makes it in the release version.

@viral lintel 100% full pve player opinion i guess?

[tough sierra]

@mighty skiff we dont have much info on professions in general atm

[small cave]

[mighty skiff]

Ah i might ask thay in the q&a then

Kinda want to be a pokemon trainer

[viral lintel]

i was red most of my time in UO, a guild player in L2 (so often enough red)

[crystal beacon]

Wondering how far I can get in husbandry if my master profession is taming

[junior pagoda]

I’m sure it will be a lot like creature handler

[viral lintel]

it's a logistics problem, thats all

[junior pagoda]

In swg

[tough sierra]

summoner ranger then, perhaps

[crystal beacon]

I strongly doubt there will be wow-style battle pets here

[junior pagoda]

Or bioengineer

[dark dagger]

Can monster certificates be sold at any level node?

[small cave]

Tbh the only thing that will happen if green players can atk corrupted without them being able to fight back is that no one will go corrupt unless they have a friend to kill them right after

i'd never want to drop a part of gear to someone who didn't even have the balls to flag for pvp to kill me

[viral lintel]

why do you have to go red anyway? theres no reason to be perma-red. occasionally, fine.. go hide somewhere, grind mobs out of the way of people, or deep inside a dungeon with friends.

[worldly shale]

just out of personal curiosity are there pirates, is there a pirate like (Tortuga/booty bay) area/town that can unlock in the ZoI and can I be a pirate?

[small cave]

as i said

not perma

[viral lintel]

PVPers have real meaningful pvp to do

[small cave]

but it would happen sometimes

[viral lintel]

well for those cases where it happens, deep dungeon

[crystal beacon]

@worldly shale There are certainly pirates (as there are naval caravans), there likely is not a pirate-themed town as the nodes are racially themed, and you can certainly be a pirate.

[tough sierra]

@small cave it takes a large number of NCB kills to get to the point of gear dropping, just dont be an asshole and you wont have to worry

[small cave]

you can't drop gear just from killing 1 or 2 green?

[tough sierra]

no

wait, really?

full pieces?

[viral lintel]

chances would be really slim if it's anything like L2

[tough sierra]

get fucked corrupt players lol

[wary grail]

is the game going to be free?

[tough sierra]

15$/mo.

[wary grail]

[worldly shale]

@crystal beacon Sorry with pirate town I meant something like an event (like the dragon spawn) not the node itself being pirate themed.

[viral lintel]

would be kinda nice tho to have something like buc's den

[crystal beacon]

We don't have any info about specific events yet

[mighty skiff]

Do we know the sub price for EU?

[worldly shale]

gottcha, thank you though, can't wait for naval caravans 😄

[tough sierra]

15 bippycoggers

or whatever yall use

[obsidian berry]

Hey I was wondering if you purchase the $250 prepack and want the $375 prepack later on, are you able to pay the difference down the road?

[crystal flax]

yes

[gaunt otter]

Hi, is it possible to have a guild name reservation as a voyager plus owner?

Or was that reserved exclusive for kickstarter supporters

[boreal abyss]

If the pack doesn't say it includes that in it, then no