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#questions
keen path
hallow yew
March 27 is a livestream i see
ebon star
No official release date. Alpha1 testing is fall 2020 for those with access
solid sparrow
Yeah I know it will happen at some point because it was a KS goal, just wast sure if it was there yet, thanks for putting in so much time to answer questions jahlon
Yeah it said naval content+expansive underwater environments. If it's post launch its cool, naval content is a niche for certain players anyway, while everyone will do above ground content
hallow yew
Is this mmorpg real D: cant believe it
weak heron
Have the prices of the Voyager Plus packages etc changed at all? Has it changed recently or is it likely to change again before A2?
oki ty
kind cloud
what is tanking gonna be like? (boss fight etc.)
tired prawn
If you where to pick a fighter class archetype and then pick it again at lvl 25 would you still be given the options to augment our abilities?
hallow yew
taunt maybr
distant charm
Will they let you have spaces and or symbols in your name?
midnight iron
Hello! I have a question about world PvP. As stated on aoc wiki
"Non-combatant (green)
All players start as non-combatants.[10]
Non-forced attacks (such as AoE) will not hit non-combatant players.[31]"
Do non-forced attacks thing also apply to combatant players
brisk scarab
Mate watch lazypeons vid, has a good lot of info in there, and a little diagram about pvp
ebon star
What do you mean by forced and non-forced
digital adder
First, thanks you for your 7h video Jahlon i've seen all, secondly i got one question : Is gold tradable ? Cause how am i suppose to pay guild to protect me when i use caravan if i can't trade gold ?
midnight iron
"Non-forced attacks (such as AoE) will not hit non-combatant players"
ebon star
^
brisk scarab
Way I took all the info is that a non combatant will only get hit if they are in a guild war
ebon star
If you flag as non combatant then yeah your aoe will hit them
digital adder
and how the reward is split between the people that defend my caravan, and how i select : you , you defend and you you can't ?
brisk scarab
Yeah of course, but it is a really simple way to explain it to someone
digital adder
So basically, a few people can say that they " defend " my caravan but finally it's a trap and they let people destroy it to get the loot ? and i get 0 people to protect it since they trapped me
brisk scarab
Can you sign up to defend it, join a party with a group so they know where it is, or are caravans always visible on the map
crystal beacon
Theoretically, yes, they could just decide to stand by and watch people destroy it... but then you wouldn't pay them
storm raptor
i dont remember if it was stated but, the caravan needs to follow a pre determined path or the horseman can choose wherever they want to go?
digital adder
okay, but imagine the people defending and attacking are in the same guild : the people " defending " will choose to defend but won't do anything letting the people attacking take my loot and then after spliting it between everybody
damm so i have to trust alot those people who register to defend... and wow there is a defender tree ?? o_O
crisp holly
I think there's node based currencies/leveling to incentivize people to not sign up for defensive and leave it alone
digital adder
nice
crystal beacon
Literally, or...?
brisk scarab
Would be cool if there was some kind of resource in game that touted players defending/attacking history lol
wheat junco
do weather conditions matter?
glass talon
If I did an Upgrade to Leader of Men, will I also get an Invitation for the Alpha 1 in August? Or do I need to contact the support?
solid sparrow
So in the 7 hour QA I'm surprised no one asked, is there an auction house or will be ran completely by interpersonal trade? I assumed it would be something like personal trade but in an econimc metropolis it could have an auction house or something, but i hope there's no auction house at all.
glass talon
@simple ether today
wheat junco
no AH
kind cloud
will you need a tool to gather low lvl herbs?
fair yew
Just not global ah
crystal beacon
ashen orchid
@glass talon Toast also said yesterday that they have received a lot of requests since the weekend. So give them a decent amount of time to reply.
solid sparrow
Alright, that's fine then. Are AH only buildable with a metropolis?
tired prawn
Lvl 4 node I believe
fair yew
From my understanding ah will be in all types not just economic. However in economic nodes they will connect to any vassal nodes is that not right?
crystal beacon
Village only allows raw/processed goods to be sold, town (level 4) unlocks full gear sales on the AH
Markets in Village level economic nodes have auction houses that allow raw resources and processed goods to be posted.
Only economic nodes. There will be markets in other nodes, but not auction houses
fair yew
Thanks
crystal beacon
Ah, correct. Need to be specific.
glass talon
@simple ether Thank you, was just an information for me, so I do not need contact support?
tulip hatch
They need time to process the upgrades but ill check in with them and get back to you if they would want you to submit a ticket
gonna dm you real quick so i have it there to remind me
glass talon
@tulip hatch thank you
solid sparrow
Link was very helpful, thank you. I must have missed that when I was reading the wiki
amber crater
One question
Will u be able to attack from your mount?
Like ride your mount while shooting or something
crystal beacon
Negative on that. T3 special mounts will have their own attacking options though.
woven forge
Have they gone into much detail on how exactly story will be presented? I've read about quest types on the wiki, but things like significant lore characters for instance. Or is the story telling mostly going to be just event driven with no real significant characters?
crystal beacon
We are the first characters returning to the world, I don't think there are any major NPCs planned
low lantern
They are keeping most of the lore secret til launch
woven forge
Yeah that makes sense, I was just curious from a presentation standpoint. I know they've said they want the game to be more narritive driven than other 'sandbox' titles
low lantern
There will be a main storyline
crystal beacon
Super curious how it'll be told through the different nodes spawning then!
woven forge
Yeah that's my main curiosity, if a character is in a node and it gets razed what happens? I'm super curious to see how they handle it
severe flame
After taking a caravan, do we have to transport it back or does it just break down and we profit?
weak heron
How do nodes upgrade if you're standing in them already? Will there be a loading screen etc?
woven forge
It teleports you to a safe spot if there's any collision
kind cloud
when the first settlement spawn, will you see an arrow on the map that points you in the direction of it?
or something similar
unreal zealot
would the world maps update after youve explored an area on the map and show the node/what level it is?
crisp holly
@severe flame The caravan is going to be made by talking to an NPC, once you reach the settlement that you planned on going to, it will have likely broken down and profit as you have nothing to take back to the previous place yet
severe flame
@crisp holly apologies I phrased my question wrong:
What happens after you RAID/CONQUER/STEAL a caravan? 🙂
crystal beacon
loot pinata
tropic plover
@severe flame in the video they showed stuff drops to the ground and you pick it up if you destroy the caravan 😄
crystal beacon
That's still being worked on. It probably won't stay a loot pinata.
crisp holly
If you win, you get to loot the caravan for some of what it was transporting
after having broken it
livid scaffold
Maybe it will be like in BDO, there are 3 types for caravan: Mayoral, Quest driven and Personal https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Caravans
So when u get into destination and sell your stuff and your caravan is empty, then there is no point for fighting over it 😄
crisp holly
You will be able to increase the hit points and other parts of a caravan which will make it harder for people attacking it
severe flame
Oh, so when attacking the caravan, you can have like a team that attacks and draw away the defenders, and then you can have a 2nd team that attacks the caravan and takes the loot and run away?
crystal beacon
If the defenders are dumb, sure.
crisp holly
^
severe flame
Never underastimate the effect of a good distraction 😄
crystal beacon
Tunnelvision is pretty strong sometimes.
severe flame
This actually made another question for me, since this game is unique: Will there be a actual stealth skill?
crystal beacon
Yeah. It's a sort of camouflage/shimmer effect
livid scaffold
We will have rogue class with 8x times of different augments, what do you think, stealth or no ? 😄
severe flame
trueee, I dont know. Steven have so many modern thoughts, so we might get a more challenging approach to stealth istead of just hitting 1 skill and go full stealth
crystal beacon
And some of the other classes will have access to stealths with Rogue augments as well
severe flame
cool!
severe flame
Smooth
Hope they talk more about the next testing phases tomorrow. As a game starved adult this is to good
crystal beacon
There was a video recently where Jahlon showed an image of it
keen path
Next testing phase should be Alpha 1 in the Fall this year
severe flame
oh, thought I read that alpha 1 was may
So was really hoping alpha 2 was coming soon
unreal zealot
nah there pre alpha 1 now i believe
severe flame
fek
keen path
Oh yeah sorry, full alpha 1 releases Fall
unreal zealot
sooner covid buggers off probably sooner the game will flow hopfully out in 2022
crystal beacon
Not currently, no
keen path
Alpha 1 acces could be bought untill July 2018.
severe flame
Awww, so close, yet so far
crystal beacon
There has been some small discussion about offering it again if they find they need more testers sooner
But wouldn't hold my breath
keen path
So there is no guarantee Alpha 2 acces will be always for sale
severe flame
aaha, already got alpha 2
crystal beacon
If it ever goes off sale there will be forwarning
potent kettle
That's okay, these guys are absolute champions and no NDA, so we can all join in to watch the fun
lethal imp
They have near 10,000 players for alpha 1 and they have more people buying in for alpha 2 so I don’t think they’ll sell access for Alphas per se
keen path
Im hyped for full release of Alpha 1. Bought it last month it was available
severe flame
yeah, love that we can theory craft so much about the game because they are so open and talk about everything
tulip hatch
Hello friends while Im happy to see excited new members
Please remember that this is a Q&A channel
Take comments and extra discussion to the discussion channels
Thank you and welcome to the community
unreal zealot
honestly i would say at least a good 20 to 30% of players will "test" for a week and probably not come back because they jsut want to play and not test it
opaque pivot
Are there any public plans on how open world dungeon respawns will work?
Or generally respawns
tulip hatch
mob respawns in the dungeon, we know that the dungeons are intended to be massive in scale with many rooms
but how respawns work not so much
severe flame
Will we be able to use our own designed crest and things to show our alliegience on gear, like a red cross on our shield/armor etc.
?
tulip hatch
you will be able to design your own guild logos and things of that nature
initially it was via an in game tool we recently heard possible uploads
so the final decision hasnt been made
severe flame
Love it
celest delta
Silkroad online had custom guild logos as well was cool
kindred stag
Does the LoM Alpha has NDA?
tropic plover
Alpha1 in fall will not have an NDA as long as it stays that way 🙂
tepid harbor
not anymore no
analog glen
how will the AMA work? do you just post questions on the reddit thread? are you limited to a specific amount of questions?
celest delta
Will there be a trading system even if you are apart of different nodes/guilds or is it only within that node that crafted good
tulip hatch
@kindred stag yes there is an NDA for LoM at this time
whole dawn
will i be able to make my character look like a zombie/skeleton though the cosmetic shop?
safe canopy
I've been watching the recent interviews between Steven and various streamers and I've got a few questions about pvp flagging. Firstly, If I throw out an air spell and someone walks into it, will I get flagged for pvp?
Aoe*
Not air
tulip hatch
@whole dawn those would be racial skins, at this time they haven't stated if they'll be adding more of those
tulip hatch
Correct you need to be flagged to hit a player unless that player is already flagged then you become flagged as well
@whole dawn sorry there hasnt been any skeleton skins
magic harness
will caravan's have a slight pvp immunity when they are first launched i.e. it doesnt become a moving PvP flag zone until 20 meters away from the village?
whole dawn
oof
crisp holly
@safe canopy You will have a choice in your settings to have your AoE skills and spells hit non-combatants. If they do it them, you will flag
whole dawn
is there any place I can see the already existing racial skins?
safe canopy
Okay cool. That was a big worry for me. That youd be able to purposefully flag people by walking into their spells
Glad to see you guys have basically thought of everything XD
whole dawn
thx
desert ivy
None of them are available for purchase anymore
crisp holly
And anything that has been forgotten will be, hopefully, figured out during testing and fixed
tulip hatch
@magic harness that hasnt been stated but probably a good question to ask on the next Q&A
magic harness
ty
tulip hatch
@celest delta there is a trading system
@analog glen you post questions on the reddit, most will be picked there some will be picked up in chat.
No amount limit has been stated but i can get a clarification from Toast whenever she pops up
analog glen
cool, ty
whole dawn
how long do most AMAs last?
i would imagine this AMA would have a lot more participants
tropic plover
is the time for gmt+1 08.00 in the morning?
tulip hatch
Im not great at timezones
If you open the reddit post Toast listed a time converter for everyone
tropic plover
got it thanks!
tulip hatch
deft dragon
topaz oriole
GMT+1 is 21:00 for AMA
celest delta
I know there is caravan trading but I mean player to player trading for crafting items
hazy narwhal
@simple ether do you know if we can preview the skill augments before selecting our secondary class?
karmic copper
Went to preorder and it said Transaction Cancelled, so I tried again and it charged me each time even though it said cancelled. Should I just hit up the bank and see if they'll stop the extra charge or?
hazy narwhal
Eventually they will of course, but if you are one of the first people to get to the subclasses, it would be a bit of a ballache if you went in blind and it ends up being nothing what you thought it would be
hazy narwhal
Ah true, did not even think of that
slow meadow
@hazy narwhal you can change your secondary as well. its not like you are locked in once you make that choice. just the primary.
hazy narwhal
I'm watching your 7 hour vid while working and i keep thinking it's a live stream so i want to ask question. Then i remembered you are basically here 24/7 XD
@slow meadow Steven did say that it will not be easy to change so i want to get it right the first time
Sweet, ill be looking forward to that one too
Keep up the good content
frail solar
Could 1 alt use the freehold of another alt?
celest delta
Do you lose anything upon death? Items, money or exp? Like RuneScape
But not gear or weps? Just gather mats?
slow meadow
@hazy narwhal he just means you can't change it on the fly out in the world. The examples given were doing a quest or maybe just having to go to an NPC in a village stage or above. So nothing too involved.
celest delta
And how you lose corruption again or active it?
keen tartan
You gain corruption by killing nonflagged players, you lose corruption by dying or by gaining xp
brittle vector
quick question: Is there gonna be a day night cycle?
slow meadow
yes there will be a day/night cycle
little aspen
Hi there, I'm a bit new and can't find dates, I just bought one of the pre order packs that includes beta access, How do I gain that access, or are the beta phases over?
safe canopy
So when you're corrupted, do nods put out a bounty for you? Or is it intrinsic in being corrupted? I had heard a bit about bounties on corrupted players but I'm dont understand how it will work
lament viper
they havent started yet
tulip hatch
Different spawns at night yes, difficulty hasnt been stated
lament viper
neither has the alpha
little aspen
ah, that would be why, Thanks Threat.
lament viper
np
celest delta
Do you have to turn on something to hit other players? What if a player just runs into your aoe and you didn't mean to kill them?
safe canopy
@celest delta I just asked that too. No worries. Theres going to be a seting so your aoe doesnt hit players
quasi pine
Can someone explain mobs dropping certificates? So you attack a monster and it drops a gift card that you turn in at the local node, or you can take it to a far away node to cash it in for more money? Is that correct? Why?
tulip hatch
You have to be flagged to hit other players
When you become corrupted you show up on bounty hunters maps
vale fractal
Certificates is just a name for materials, like pelts, meat, whatever
celest delta
So you have to purposely target player?
vale fractal
Its just a moniker for design purposes
safe canopy
Yeah from what I understand @celest delta
quasi pine
Why not just say "stuff"
light wadi
It's like calling The One Ring a Plot Coupon
tulip hatch
Thats not a question for us to answer thats a steven question
quasi pine
lol
vale fractal
Because not all drops are "certificates", its a classification of loot type that they use internally and Steven likes talking technical c:
quasi pine
I don't like that term
tulip hatch
Take it up with the big man!
Lets keep this channel to questions and answers folks
thank you
slow meadow
the follow up was opinion and discussion which is what I believe alluring was pointing out.
little aspen
Some of you sound like you're playing already, is that access from the kickstarter? I may be a bit impatient to play... lol
tulip hatch
Some testing has started, a new test is approaching for a select group of package holders
safe canopy
@simple ether and anyone can become a bounty hunter?
That's cool
Thanks. I was just confused on how it worked
Do we know how long a node will take to level up to max generally? Like, talking weeks? Months? Etc
whole dawn
do vassal nodes become the same node type as the parent node?
slow meadow
@safe canopy It was described as many weeks to max
kind cloud
are we gonna have a hs like ability?
slow meadow
@whole dawn no they are whatever their preset node type is.
kind cloud
How many player houses are availible inside a parant node and its vassal nodes?
whole dawn
wasnt it stated that metropolis gives buffs to its vassal nodes as well?
like scholar metropolis gives fast travel through its vassals?
so you could double dip by living in a military node large enough to become a bounty hunter while still getting fast travel benifits
right
deft stone
What kind of systems are they going to have to prevent ninja logging and such? Also watching your 7 hour Q&A you're crazy Jahlon.
whole dawn
isnt that a negative for metropolis citizens then?
topaz oriole
@deft stone Define ninja logging, logging out in combat?
deft stone
kk, only like an hour in heh.
whole dawn
ill watch in a bit, LEC gonna start soon
deft stone
Yeah. In combat, out of combat. All that jazz.
slow meadow
@deft stone there will be a logout delay to prevent players from immediately logging out of combat.
silver geyser
Will there be any system that will reset nodes ( or atleast move capital node from 1 node to another ) if node have been defended sucsessfully at least 2 times @ metropolis level ? Why i ask this is because judging the player behaviour in 2020 there will 100% be some domninant group that will held node hostage to grief other people on the realm
deft stone
Alright. And just as well, can't mount in combat?
grim hinge
I wonder how the cost of new plots will be balanced if your house gets destroyed (particularly freehold) - am I understanding correctly that you will just have to buy a plot from whichever node, not re-buy all the buildings and whatnot?
light wadi
@silver geyser It is in that groups interests to lose the metropolis eventually to unlock different PvE content based on node development
desert scroll
Ashes of Creation will be free to play?
tender siren
monthly sub
light wadi
no box cost. Just sub
grim hinge
Thanks! love your content by the way, really appreciate how much time you're dedicating to the community. We have no idea how big a cost that will be at this point, correct?
crisp holly
No, $15 a month which you can have be lower than that by their referral program
grim hinge
I imagine that'll be something they'll need to tweak when they see how often nodes are getting destroyed etc
celest delta
Is all open world or is it region/instance?
deft stone
Did you wind up doing that video on nodes Jahlon?
celest delta
And timers for gathering?
whole dawn
@simple ether any idea of the actual number of dungeons, im assuming 1 per node right
olive heath
I've seen that 80/20 referenced before and I'm confused by what metric that is using. Square kilometers? Time spent playing for an average person?
Ooh, so it's specifically the dungeons, gotcha. Wow
whole dawn
it was said that developing a node can open up a dungeon right?
if there isnt 1 per node, would the ones with the dungeons always be the one that becomes most developed?
tender siren
Is all open world or is it region/instance?
@celest delta was the question here for the whole world? if it is, isn't the whole world open? you can go to any region smoothly
olive heath
How will the game's default group loot work?
whole dawn
oh thats pretty cool
celest delta
Is there levels or towers to dungeons?
rustic geyser
Is there weapon swapping like ESO and GW2?
tulip hatch
There will be weapon swapping
@celest delta do you mean like a 2nd floor?
In current testing there were multiple levels to a dungeon
rustic geyser
So I can play my bow shooting dual wielding sword slashing Ranger? I can’t wait until this game is finished.
safe canopy
The whole idea of Dungeons in this game sounds very reminiscent of Log Horizon to me. The way that beating bosses in certain ways or time periods affects the bosses further in :P
celest delta
Yeah more than one floor
tulip hatch
@rustic geyser Absolutely
golden flame
@simple ether are the dungeons like procedurally generated by the nodes or are they actually made by hand?
whole dawn
wait theres 15 castle nodes but only 5 castles?
tulip hatch
it is not procedurally generated
golden flame
Castles have 2 vassal nodes
celest delta
And each floor has tougher does and bosses
golden flame
Also thank you @tulip hatch
tulip hatch
As a general reminder please take discussions and extra comments to the discussion channels
This channel is getting a lot of traffic and we dont want to miss questions
Thank you folks!
ashen orchid
Does the world map wrap or is it hard boarders?
celest delta
Can a guild/alliance be a wanted for like a corrupted player but on mass scale for a guild
whole dawn
how to castle vassle nodes work? could they become a metropolis?
cinder cape
I know that 300 is the guild cap, but is the a "minimum" for those small guild buffs? Like are there no benefits if a guild is smaller than say 50 players?
rigid gate
Since Rogues will have some utilities like pick locking will my augment to the rogue sometimes remove/Replace it ? Or am i completely wrong about classes and thier usefulness outside of combat
slow meadow
Guilds can declare a guild ware on each other @celest delta which allows the guilds to fight without the corruption.
cinder cape
so 5 players may be buffed enough to take on like 100?
golden flame
Not to that extent no
but smaller guilds have more buffs. not sure what kind of buffs yet but probably a lot of quality of life stuff like xp and shit
tender siren
regarding the artisna classes, There are 3 artisan classes right? and each artisan class have multiple professions
and out of all those, I can only master one?
raven thicket
In the wiki it states players will only be able to be a master of one of the three artisan classes. Does this mean you can master all of the professions under the parent tree? For example, if I master Processing I will be a master of Animal Husbandry and Smelting. If I want to master Gathering I can master Fishing, Herbalism, Lumberjacking, Mining and Taming.
silver geyser
@rigid gate since when ur intrested in rogues, u play boomy on dreadmist 😛
celest delta
I mean can you declare gvg at any time and place. What if guilds are fighting over a dungeon monster in a dungeon and they don't want another guild to get the kill?
analog pilot
if i refer someone without any account purchases do i still get intrepid bucks?
rigid gate
@silver geyser Since they haven't added a druid of the moon in ashes 😛 Just a question for all classes that might have utilities like effects to their kit
slow meadow
@analog pilot 15% of 0 is 0 so unless they make a purchase you get nothing.
analog pilot
thanks just wanted to make sure
silver geyser
There is 64 different classes in game im sure they will be unique and represent any class we’ve seen so far in all other games
whole dawn
im suprised theres no engineering class and no guns
i know
im pretty sure guns were invented before airships no?
but yea i get the design choice
sullen wagon
there is a AMA today?
whole dawn
tomorrow
slow meadow
@celest delta you can kill anyone at any time, its just whether or not they are flagged and whether or not you get corruption. Like all declarations you have work to do before you can declare so its not something you will do on the fly.
rigid gate
Yeah but would a ranger have 'Track' in his kit and if he chooses bard as an augment will he still have track or lose that ability for something else @silver geyser
slow meadow
@rigid gate Secondaries augment the kit you have as your base, they dont replace or add anything.
celest delta
But if there is a whole guild who flags and they are all apart of same guild can their be a bounty for the guild or just those players
tender siren
how does black smithing differ with armor smithing and weapon smithing?
I thought weapon smithing and armor smithing would be under black smithing but in wiki, they're not
whole dawn
black smithing should be under proccessing CMV
hollow elm
So rogues are going to be important in dungeons to unlock chest?
crisp holly
@sullen wagon the AMA is tomorrow
stable plover
@tender siren The wiki tends to be built using direct quotes from the devs, it's possible the devs used 'black smithing' to refer to 'armor/weapon smiting' at some point and there may not be a difference but we just have both terms - They might also be different - We don't really have more details than what's on the wiki
silver geyser
Maybe question outside of game design but where can I sign up for beta ? I’d really like to test this game, most promising game in past decade
stable plover
@silver geyser Intrepid sells alpha 2/beta keys here https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop, there will also be some opportunities to win keys in the future.
crisp holly
@silver geyser You can only buy the packs at the ashes shop to have access to the Beta1/2 or Alpha 2https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
crystal beacon
1 hour long ama tomorrow right ?
crisp holly
yes
stable plover
@crystal beacon If your scheduling your life around the answer to that question, don't be surprised if Intrepid goes a bit over
crystal beacon
So when you preorder the voyager pack you get all of these items, like cosmetics and stuff but i see swamp monster and a mount, so what’s that about
So mounts have cosmetic options? That’s interesting
silver geyser
That’s cool tbh
crystal beacon
@stable plover what question?
tender siren
regarding the embers included in the packages, is it used on alpha/beta or on launch?
whole dawn
launch
stable plover
@crystal beacon "1 hour long ama tomorrow right " -> Intrepid usually goes a bit over on livestreams scheduled for an hour, but I can't recall them having been under
crystal beacon
That’s what im hoping for, so many questions on mind 
fiery raft
For alpha2 there‘s no ETA atm right? Or are they aiming to get into alpha2 end of the year?
crisp holly
Alpha 1 is going to be 2020 fall
silver geyser
Are cosmetic features something in-game shop only ? Or you will be able to collect some cool sets in the game too ? ( and transmog them )
crisp holly
No plan about Alpha 2 or beta
crystal beacon
@silver geyser I believe i heard there’s cosmetic items in game as well
From summit stream if im not mistaken
stable plover
@tender siren There might be options to spend embers (again) before launch - they were spendable in the APOC in game cosmetic shop, they'd probably be spendable when APOC came back or maybe if they test the main MMO cosmetic shop through the MMO's client at some point
silver geyser
That would be great, if cash shop only adds additional options but not the only option
whole dawn
i think i read that there will be cash shop variations that can be found in the wild
not sure the validity of that
kindred stag
Will we be able to change master profession tree ? (like we can only master 1 of 3 paths, can we change it if we don't like it after some time?)
crystal beacon
Didn’t they say they would wipe the servers before launch? Wouldn’t make it pointless to buy stuff off cosmetic shop
stable plover
@crystal beacon cosmetic purchases are account bound -> the server wipes would be for characters and any development to the server like nodes being developed
crystal beacon
Ok that’s awesome
whole dawn
are all GMs gonna be intrepid staff or will community members also be able to become GMs
humble widget
probably for the best
whole dawn
what priveleges do GMs get? Can they manually start events and stuff?
crystal beacon
What about the old cosmetic sets can you get it from the shop or is it exclusive to the people who bought it then
stable plover
@whole dawn https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Game_masters -> They don't intend to have GM run events at the launch of the game, but have the tech to have them and plan them for sometime after launch
whole dawn
pog
silver geyser
Will you be able to buy cosmetic skins in the game shop and sell them for the in-game currency at market-place ?
tender siren
btw, lazy peon said in his video, you can interbreed monsters to get different monsters/mounts? is that already a confirmed feature? lol
potent jackal
How good of a computer do you need for the game?
light wadi
They said they want GMs to be active members of the community and play the game along side other players. I'm sure abusing any GM powers can and will lead to termination
tender siren
Will you be able to buy cosmetic skins in the game shop and sell them for the in-game currency at market-place ?
@silver geyser probably no, having this will make the game somewhat pay to win
whole dawn
gtx 1070 for max settings i think
deft stone
So one of the greatest additions for Rpers has been the ability to create extended character profiles. Wow has it through addons (yes I know there won't be addons) and I think FFXIV had it by default, where you can expand with blurbs and more detail on your character. Does AoC have any plans to add this? I know one of the reasons people shrug off Gw2 as a home for rp is a lack of such a thing.
whole dawn
you can create a bio on ur character page
stable plover
@tender siren here's example concept art of the differences you could get through breeding different gryphons
whole dawn
like a background info on ur character
deft stone
They have that in already?
stable plover
@tender siren There will be some amount breeding (non-confirmed example) Wyverns and Gryphons together, but a lot of random attempts like that won't work
@deft stone They don't currently have the custom backgrounds in that we've seen
stable plover
@safe canopy both
unreal zealot
im sure al lthe breeding info wll be out by end of beta 2
silver geyser
Judging on the site game will offer in-game currency buying or i got it wrong ? Thats why i asked about skins on marketplace
deft stone
Do they have any plans for it yet or we dunno yet. I know it's a bit of a down-the-line sort of idea, but it's just one of those things that would bring a lot of rpers in for sure.
safe canopy
The in game store was said to be purely cosmetic I believe @silver geyser
deft stone
Won't find a single Wow rper who isn't running Trp3 or mrp.
stable plover
@silver geyser 'Embers' are only for the official in game shop, they don't get traded to other players
whole dawn
how much purchasing power does 125$ get you? like how many skins could u get with that
silver geyser
Ah i got it now tnx for answers
stable plover
@whole dawn You could compare it to Intrepid's current/past pricing if you wanted - Varies wildly depending on the particular cosmetic
outer ivy
hey guys, is Alpha two the next testing phase that is suppsoed to be out in a couple of months ?
crisp holly
@outer ivy No
rocky bear
the next one is alpha 1
keen path
No, there is no date yet for Alpha 2.
outer ivy
ah ok, so you cant buy into alpha 1 anymore ?
keen path
First is full release of Alpha 1. At this moment only the highest backupers from Alpha 1 have acces.
rocky bear
nope @outer ivy
outer ivy
ok cheers guys 🙂
rocky bear
😄
keen path
No, they stopped selling Alpha 1 acces in 2018.
crisp holly
Correct, the last time you could buy into Alpha 1 was some time in 2018
tender siren
Do we already have live footage of a node going to the next level?
rocky bear
i think not
crisp holly
Not that I know of
celest delta
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule#:~:text=100 developers working on Ashes,)%2C%20October%2019%2C%202018.
wicked heath
Just test footage of it
tight gale
@tender siren We have shown a bit of it here: https://youtu.be/Trk0Tik18j8?t=2670
whole dawn
names are unique per server right? and are all alts limited to the same server?
outer ivy
is there a time/date for when Alpha 2 access will be removed from the $ packages on site? 🙂 just so I know when to purchase by
gotta save up that dollar 😛
stable plover
@whole dawn Names are unique per server, you can play on multiple servers, but can only have 1 freehold per account (You can't play on EU/US servers at same time with one account)
tight gale
@outer ivy No date for Alpha 2 yet. 
faint bay
date for alpha 1?
crisp holly
There might be some kind of news just before the Alpha 2 sales close but I won't bet on that
dark jungle
alpha 1 is this fall @faint bay
outer ivy
sorry, I meant like, is there a known time when the alpha 2 access will be removed from being available by purchasing one of the packages off site, like alpha 1 stoped in 2018, am i making sense ? 😂
crisp holly
@outer ivy Currently, no. We know nothing about when Alpha 2 will stop being for sale
tight gale
We have not provided a date and time for when Alpha Two will be removed, but eventually, it will be removed from purchasing options @outer ivy .
outer ivy
ok thankyou 🙂 ❤️
crisp holly
We might get a heads up before it closes but I would not bet on getting too much of a heads up
celest delta
Are the guilds being made now not exist once released?
dark jungle
depends on the guild
frail solar
Will certain races be better at gathering, processing and crafting?
whole dawn
we know nothing about races rn
ebon star
Racial abilities are not published yet
whole dawn
at least, their bonuses
crisp holly
@celest delta There will be at least a complete wipe from testing to full game release but if you have a guild planned outside of Ashes you can recreate it once the game comes out
twilit granite
Is the caravan system going to be like bdo’s trading profession system
dark jungle
no
celest delta
Ah okay was going to say all those guild posting would seem pointless if they are being wiped
Is caravan going to be similar to silkroad online trading system?
broken lodge
WTB cool caravan
crystal beacon
Ohh man what if im waiting for the next cosemtic pack and then they close the preorder for alpha 2
broken lodge
man, people keep typing and then deleting wut they say lol
crystal beacon
Hope there’s a headsup
dark jungle
there will be @crystal beacon
ebon star
There will be an Announcement before alpha2 is pulled from shop
broken lodge
spit it out Sullen, we're not judging you
winter parrot
What are the differences in cosmetic add-ons 'levels'? Voyager Plus vs say the regular Voyager Pack?
tight gale
@crisp holly We usually provide about a week's notice before the next packages will be released. 
digital yacht
@winter parrot the Plus has the rest of the skins
desert ivy
@winter parrot Well for that example, the Plus one gets you the character cosmetic costumes, along with freehold skin. Plus you get name reservation, more embers, and more sub time. It also allows you to buy future character cosmetics and freehold skins.
tight gale
No problem. They are normally posted on our #news channel - but you can always find them on our site https://ashesofcreation.com/news
For example https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-07-08-might-of-the-murk went out a week before the cosmetics swapped over.
winter parrot
The Shop mentioned Levels and I didn't understand the differences.
stable plover
@winter parrot The shop 'levels' refer to the tier, so someone with a wayfarer pack can buy the 5$ accessory cosmetic every month, someone with a voyager+ pack can buy any of the individual cosmetics each month for 5-25$
(You can buy future cosmetics from your tier and lower individually)
crisp holly
@tight gale I'm now wondering, what will you be doing to be ready for the influx of people signing up for Alpha 2(to not overload things early) when that notice comes out due to how many more people are interested in Ashes now?
winter parrot
There is a description future packs 'for that tier'
severe flame
Problem is that you cant check the details for your pack after your bought it, I can only see the details for the pack over mine
tulip hatch
@severe flame cosmetic packs rotate monthly
stable plover
@crisp holly For example what they did with A1 -> they wanted 10k A1 testers max, when they reached something like 7k testers they announced that they would stop selling keys in a month leaving room for the predicted number of key sells over the next month with the announcement that the Intrepid packs were going to stop being sold. They finished that month with a bit of room to spare, but were still allowing KS upgrades so things worked out with that.
ebon star
Alpha 2 as of now for what we know will not have an NDA so most likely everyone will get an email on how to download the launcher in waves to ensure the account services system are not overloaded all at once. @crisp holly
severe flame
@tulip hatch So thats a yes there is one going on now?
(cant seem to see anything about it anywhere tho, i might be to tired to see it. Long day at work)
crystal beacon
Do they offer a way to buy the cosmetics from (for example) a new rotation alone if you already bought the voyager plus for this month
winter parrot
I did not know if there were differences in the levels. So a Explorer can not buy a Voyager Pack in the future.
stable plover
@severe flame You 'account inventory' should list the things that came with the pack individually
ebon star
After you bought a preorder pack cosmetics only will show on the shop page the following month
tulip hatch
If you buy a package you can purchase the individual cosmetics = to the tier you own and below
crystal beacon
Yeah but what i want the cosmetics from the next tier
tulip hatch
Youll need to upgrade
crisp holly
Thanks for the answers. I love how helpful everyone is here. 🥰 It makes me glad as I am highly considering being a content creator for Ashes
ebon star
@winter parrot you can upgrade your pack later by paying the difference between the packages
winter parrot
It was mentioned in the last paragraph of the Plus description
I got it now, thanks for the feedback...
ebon star
The cosmetics you recieve when upgrading will depend on what's in the store at the time
dapper sleet
Any chance some of the cosmetic packages comes back? Some of the previous ones looks awsome! But I can understand the whole rarity point etc.
ebon star
No cosmetics are one time only in shop
tulip hatch
They are exclusive
severe flame
When are next rotation?
tulip hatch
August 5th
dapper sleet
Wiki says that Jul-August is the current one
faint bay
will you get any advantage of the alpha or beta to launch?
tulip hatch
Aside from knowledge, no
stable plover
@dapper sleet The exact cosmetics won't return, but something similar might be available in the future, for example an exact bear mount won't repeat, but there will be more bear mounts.
ebon star
The rotation will be announced before current cosmetics are pulled from shop
severe flame
I dont have voyager plus tho. I have Timeless I think. Im not sure how this works
tulip hatch
If you check #news it informs you how long the cosmetics will be there for and when they rotate
dapper sleet
Ye I linked voyager because it includes everything
You can go here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs and click on "(History)" of the package
severe flame
Aaaha, so I got part of it
dapper sleet
Ye from what I can see, it seems like the lower parts are just parts of the bigger package so to speak, not different packages with different items
severe flame
But I dont see "Timeless Terrapin" anywhere on the page
winter parrot
And since everyone is so friendly... Just to be clear on nodes, your account will be node locked. No alt being a citizen of a different node.
severe flame
Oh
whole dawn
@winter parrot thats good to hear, i wouldnt want to go to war against myself
severe flame
So the real name for my pack is: Voyager pre-order pack ?
dapper sleet
@severe flame https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Timeless_Terrapin you can see in which bundle this is under "Bundled in"
ebon star
Yes tengs
severe flame
Then im following
Imma wait until next month then to upgrade. Not a huuge fan of the swamp style, its cool but not "me"
ebon star
Next months rotation you should see just cosmetics individually
winter parrot
Well if different nodes offer different bonuses, I might have to think on it a while.
severe flame
Ty for the patience, sorry that im slow
dapper sleet
All good, we all have questions because we're hyped 😄
winter parrot
Thanks again for the replied
severe flame
actually regarding that, I saw there are "few" abilities on the hotbar for players. Is that how its going to look lategame?
I really dont want 200 abilities like they have in wow.
desert ivy
Only metric to go off is that there will be "less than 30"
We don't know how many there will be exactly yet
craggy igloo
Im more interested if support class like cleric will be able play solo. in most games you can heal but not fight
ebon star
Abilities change with the augments of the secondary classes so a small number of abilities for the base class makes many varieties of play in augmentations from second class
craggy igloo
there is difference in able do dmg and something like shadow priest
boreal totem
Hey guys, I know a vassal node can’t declare war on its parent node or any other vassal node in its influence. However can a parent node declare war on a vassal? Part of why I was wondering this is due to say if members of a vassal node try to secretly hire mercenaries to siege the parent node and get caught doing it.. What sort of recourse would the parent node have against its treasonous vassal?
wicked heath
clerics have damage spells as well
if you can fight well alone probably depends on what 2nd archetype you choose
for cleric atleast
desert ivy
You probably (speculation) won't be able to do damage comparable to like a pure dps class obviously, but I bet you'll still be able to kill things comfortably
whole dawn
im curious how guardians would play
craggy igloo
I dont know why but i ALWAYS end up as healer... even when i say for years no more 😄
wicked heath
@boreal totem I dont think they can, but im trying to find something in the wiki that says for sure
deft stone
If you want to scare a non-combatant off could you just rough them up a little but not actually kill them to save your corruption?
celest delta
Are guilds character lock or account lock?
stray dome
@deft stone If you are the same level, probably, but imagine some low level ass shit getting oneshooted by you...
wicked heath
I think after either a questline,a set amount of time, or a certain level of node is achievied. The guilds will be competing with one another to get the highest quality castle seige scroll, and sabatoge other guides. then the winning guild will have to siege the Castle nodes who are garrisoned by npcs
@stray dome
celest delta
Like if I want to make a character be in a military node so I can be a bounty hunter than have another character for economic and trading goods and such
wicked heath
guilds should be per character
and you can only be a citizen of one node, but still use different types
crystal beacon
I have an awful PC. Is there any like base system requirements listed somewhere?
wicked heath
i think for min they were shooting for 970 but it might change
keen yarrow
Ok so this is a bit early on but the max level 50 right?
wicked heath
yes the max on launch will be 50
stable plover
@boreal totem @wicked heath "Vassal Nodes give excess experience to their Parent Node, and are able to have their own Vassals, as long as they fit within the Parent Node’s Zone of Influence. They are subject to the government, alliances, wars, taxes, and trade of their Parent Node, and are able to receive federal aid from them. A Vassal Node cannot declare war on their Parent Node or any of its Vassals. Citizens of Vassals are bound by the diplomatic states of the Parent Node."
One way of interpreting that is possibly that Parent/vassal nodes share the same set of 'wars' which could mean they're treated as the same entity for purpose of declaring them, and a node couldn't declare war/siege itself --> pretty speculative interpretation of that language though
celest delta
So if your guild made a military node and you were a bounty hunter. Then that node got wiped out and then we made a economic one. Will I still have bounty hunter ?
digital yacht
Guilds dont make nodes
keen yarrow
And will it always be level 50 throughout expansions?
digital yacht
guilds can join a node but the whole guild doiesnt have to be in that same node
@keen yarrow TBD
celest delta
Well help make the nodes
stable plover
@boreal totem Your question wouldn't be a terrible thing to try asking in the AMA or a stream since we don't really know the answer
digital yacht
@celest delta node types are predetermined on launch if u are in a military node and it gets beseiged it will still be a miltiary node
celest delta
Ah okay so if your node gets wiped out can you still keep the old nodes benefits
digital yacht
it will still be military just reset to level 0
celest delta
Ah so can't switch out of it then
digital yacht
u would have to leave and go to a new node
wicked heath
@stable plover so I think the vassals could siege other nodes below node 3, or vassals of other parent nodes. If the parent of a vassal wants to end a war, they can do so by forming an alliance with the other vassal's parent
weak sand
@crystal beacon yes, there are some recommended specs. I don't know them myself, but I do remember seeing them on their website
unkempt oracle
Will the pre-order skins that are unavailable right now, come back somehow?
weak sand
If you just look it up you'll probably find a link, I can check if you want
crystal beacon
2+? I thought it was coming out next year lol.
digital yacht
@unkempt oracle different variations may come back but u will not see the same ones twice
@crystal beacon uhh no
crystal beacon
And I'll look and see if I can find it.
weak sand
Okay
safe canopy
@digital yacht the game launch isnt until 2022?
wet dagger
yo guys, are there limited charachters you can create on one account, can you buy more slots to experiment with different class combinations?
digital yacht
could be 2022 or 2023 or 2024 we dont have a definite date @safe canopy
wet dagger
saying 2024 is crushing my soul
digital yacht
@wet dagger there will be A "comfortable" amount we dont have a exacy numner
exact number*
weak sand
Does your sub start in 2022, or does sub start in alphas/betas (for preorder packs)
digital yacht
@wet dagger most likely wont hit 2024 but there is always a chance
@weak sand sub starts on release date
not during alpha/beta
weak sand
Oh good
wet dagger
as long as the game is what it is even if its 2030 shoub be okay 😄
safe canopy
@digital yacht but no sooner than 2022 you're thinking?
weak sand
No
whole dawn
will node type be randomised for each server?
wet dagger
@safe canopy alphas and betas are gonna be available in 2021/2022
weak sand
They have a pretty solid roadmap, that may change based on how the testing goes
digital yacht
@whole dawn each nodes are predetermined we are leading to believe all servers wil lbe the same but that is a good question for the AMA cvoming up
wet dagger
i believe
digital yacht
@safe canopy its definitely possible but not likely
crisp holly
The release date will all depend on how smoothly things go and if there are any more large issues like when Ashes found out with doing apocalypse
wet dagger
wait can you not choose the kind of node u want it to be?
safe canopy
@wet dagger wow, okay. I was thinking in my head that the alphas and beats were going to be closer together for some reason
digital yacht
@wet dagger no u have to find out what kind it is urself and if u dont like it go to the next one
@wet dagger u find out at level 1 node
so fairly quickly
wet dagger
Alpha 1 is gonna be available this year however you cant buy it anymore @safe canopy
celest delta
You can't relocate a castle/node if you wipe out someone else's node and you want their spot?
wet dagger
@safe canopy I think there is no NDA for it so u can watch streamers 😄
digital yacht
@celest delta Castles are pre determined as well
charred creek
I can still upgrade my Kickstarter to Alpha 1 thou right?
digital yacht
@charred creek yes
wet dagger
Wait you can do that?
severe flame
@charred creek no
wet dagger
I thought u can only access alpha 2
digital yacht
@wet dagger if u own a kickstarter packaer u can upgrade it to alpha 1
charred creek
Might have to do that
desert ivy
You can still upgrade your kickstarter if you actually have a kickstarter that backed in 2017
dark jungle
i cant
fallow veldt
isnt the corruption system kinda broken though? when some guy with 5 levels higher than me, tries to kill me for whatever reason, im incentivized to not fight back and just take it.
if i fight back and lose, he wont be punished, which is very likely due to him being a higher level.
but if i dont fight back, i will die, so ??
crisp holly
If you fight back you loose less mats than if you do not fight back
digital yacht
@dark jungle did some1 back 10k 😂
desert ivy
It wouldn't surprise me if Lex was one of the 10k bois
fallow veldt
but he wont be punished for it
and can just do it to everyone
cuz everyone is gonna fight back
pure tinsel
I know this game is still in alpha but have they announced any kind of full release window or even beta release?
digital yacht
no
celest delta
Is it confirm you can reset a skill tree if you took a skill you didn't like?
pure tinsel
Ok thank you @digital yacht
wicked heath
so do all vassals under the parent node belong to it? essentially as long as a city was within the ZOI of a metro, all of the citie's vassals would be in the same heirarchy/kingdom of the metro?
digital yacht
basically yes
crisp holly
@fallow veldt Maybe but if they do that to you and you die to a monster, I would guess that the player who did so much damage to you would be corrupted
But that's also why going around with other people might be a good thing to do
wicked heath
so the first big kingdoms are gonna be super large but decentralized, just long chains of vassals in to specific area that belong to the first metros
fallow veldt
well still, it seems kinda abusable in other ways too
i really wish they would address that more
tender siren
@fallow veldt maybe they will add something like the criminal system in archage, flagging will give you a minor corruption, killing greens will give you a major corruption, something like that
digital yacht
@fallow veldt ask about it in the AMA steven will happily explain it to u
crisp holly
Seeing as the game isn't even in Alpha 1 yet, they will likely change things around as needed from what they find out from the testing
white sequoia
for the AMA is that where you can ask any questions you like ? (Within reason)
digital yacht
AMA = Ask Me Anything
ebon star
Probably best to keep it game related of course if you want your answers about game stuff
white sequoia
I only have 2 questions which I ask here every few months but so far no answer but ok ty Shadow/Kinetic
crisp holly
What are those 2 questions?
unkempt oracle
Where do I ask my questions for the AMA when its live? In the twitch chat i guess?
digital yacht
twitch and reddit
desert ivy
Probably about the class blogs
potent thunderBOT
lone halo
Will there be any sort of assistance or guidance for players who are new to MMO's. Or will it be more of a trial and error kind of setup?
digital yacht
There will be activities that are present for higher level players to mentor lower level players. Let's say you have a friend who joins later on and you still want to do things with them, there will be things to do. Will you he be able to enter a dungeon of your level and participate? No, because we don't want to inflate or deflate characters and manipulate that type of skill or power. We want that to be something that makes sense for them in a progression standpoint.[11] – Steven Sharif
There will be a mentorship program where upper-level players are able to benefit from partying and/or helping lower level players; and getting them situated in the game.[7]
wicked heath
is there an actual hard cap on the number of metropolises? 1 of each?
unkempt oracle
Are there pictures of the playable races or are they not done yet?
digital yacht
concepts https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races
severe cipher
Hey guys, anyone minds helping me out with a real quick question
digital yacht
go for it
crystal beacon
Hi guys i'm interested in playing beta, can i just buy a pre- order pack in the shop and play ?
wicked heath
ok and 5 because ZOI? could you theoretically have the entire map covered with 3 metros ZOIs? or does ZOI max out after the advance to node 6
digital yacht
severe cipher
well i suppose that upon release will have only NA server
wicked heath
im reading it now, it doesent state it in exact terms
severe cipher
oh thats nice
wicked heath
oh im dumb i see it
severe cipher
anyway my question is
digital yacht
Up to one fifth of the world will be encompassed within the ZOI of a Metropolis. The many vassal nodes within a ZOI's "border" could end up looking like a country or nation.[5]
@wicked heath
rustic silo
There are multiple different types of ZOI, node, castle and continent ones
Guild castle is 1/5 of whole world
Since there are total of 5
severe cipher
the subscribe value will be converted to other currency or will be adapted
digital yacht
converted
digital yacht
its 15$ USD
severe cipher
thx
digital yacht
so convert that to ur countries currency
severe cipher
yeah let s hope that the currencys get more balanced in the future
rustic silo
There will be multiple zones of influences for nodes too, I think the bigger the node becomes the more zone it will cover
So at the beginning there will be a lot of smaller ZOI
Until metropolis, which would cover the most amount of region
wicked heath
but the players might not be able to organize enough to plan the entire world effeciently
or atleast the king of a metro or 2 with good planners could make wars in a way to get more metros
rustic silo
wicked heath
yea but castles will be the most meta controlling factor
once a server gets well developed and organized
whole dawn
@rustic silo what does the legend on the bottom left mean, is that the max amount of nodes for 1 ZOI?
wicked heath
i know im saying for the most meta way of organizing, have the castle as the main gov and the metros under its rules or essentially working together
dark jungle
@whole dawn its the max level for nodes in that zoi
whole dawn
oh im dumb
rustic silo
Me is confused but I will go with that
wicked heath
because castles could theoretically gain more metros under their AOI if they destory an enemies metro and then build another metro in their own AOI, assuming that they dont have their initial metro too centralized in their AOI
rustic silo
Lmao
wicked heath
since castles collect 20% tax on everyone
rustic silo
Yeah
wicked heath
it would be best for them to work together with the metros under them to expand the kingdom
whole dawn
if ur a stage 5 node under a metropolis, wouldnt u want the metropolis to fall so that ur level 5 node could upgrade?
digital yacht
yes
wicked heath
@whole dawn you maybe would, but if the kingdom or metro was powerful enough that you wouldent dare, you wouldent
rustic silo
Yes
fossil shuttle
You can't be a major and a guild leader
rustic silo
You can
fossil shuttle
Wait you can? mb then
rustic silo
You can be a king or a queen and be a mayor of metropolis
digital adder
hi ! do you know where taxes go ? you were talking about 20% taxes but where does it go ? in the Monarch's pocket ? Or it's for finance building ?
rustic silo
Tax the shit out of population
digital yacht
Guild castles impose a tax on all revenue for the nodes within its region.[34]
In addition to taxes, Castles also influence crop yields, resources and events within its region.[35]
Part of the tax and resources gathered are applied to the castle for improvements.[36][37]
The remainder of tax income can be used by the guild for whatever they want.[38]
When castles change hands (following a siege), some taxes stay with the castle and some stay with the guild.[39]
@digital adder
wicked heath
I think it is interesting there are no official political interactions other than taxing for castles and the nodes under the castles ZOI, it makes the agreement of castles and their kingdom all up to the players
if this game lasts like a decade there will be some really interesting server historys, with huge kingdoms or a bunch of city states, the history of player goverments on the server
digital adder
so if i buy something 100 money, with 20 % taxes, the guild take 10 money and 10 money disapear ?
rustic silo
For guild castles, yes that is how I understand it
unreal zealot
how does a guild initially take over a castle at the start of the game?
wicked heath
i typed it out earlier
digital yacht
@unreal zealot by declare war on it, its controlled by NPCS at the start
rustic silo
wicked heath
I think after either a questline,a set amount of time, or a certain level of node is achievied: the castle nodes will unlock. Guilds will be competing with one another to get the highest quality castle seige scroll, and sabatoge other guides. then the winning guild will have to siege the Castle nodes who are garrisoned by npcs
digital adder
taxes are weird, cause it's really strong for a guild to earn that much money " freely ".
rustic silo
Thats the point of the castle
wicked heath
corruption will be the biggest problem for castles
if they want to expand they need to organize and not hoard the wealth
rustic silo
You want to get ahead as soon as possible and tax others so they fall behind
noble elk
is apocalypse still available ?
digital yacht
no
rustic silo
Even if you have 1% tax
wicked heath
you would not want to tax them to death unless they were openly hostile to you
wicked heath
in the small picture
digital yacht
yes but u dont want to tax too high or they go against u
digital adder
another question if you don't mind : you are saying that castle are already here , so castle are not the stage 4 of a node ?
rustic silo
Yeah, didnt say it got to be high
wicked heath
in the big picture you want them strong and allied/under your control so you can expand the kingdom
winter field
is the AMA today?
digital yacht
@digital adder no a castel is seperate but has 3 Stage 3 nodes under them
rustic silo
Tomorrow
crisp holly
AMA tomorrow
digital yacht
@digital adder https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guild_castles
digital adder
oh okay
crystal beacon
do we know if the world is flat or round in AoC?
digital adder
if your guild own the castle do you still pay taxes ?
rustic silo
Different taxes, different ZOI
wicked heath
and there are too many nodes and too much distance to have everything directly under one guilds control, they need alliances since most super guilds would self destruct with that amount of organization
digital yacht
@crystal beacon both are to be tested
crystal beacon
sick
winter field
Do we have any info on how the buffing system will work?
crystal beacon
economics are going to shift dramatically depending on which it is
digital yacht
@winter field bards wil lbe primary buffers but very little info on bards
rustic silo
if your guild own the castle do you still pay taxes ?
@digital adder yea, probably
supple yarrow
What game has similar combat system to AoC?
rustic silo
But you get back percentage
digital yacht
no1 is exempt from taxes
digital adder
Okay so taxes in nodes won't go into guild pocket's but castle own by guild will ? ok
wicked heath
i think vassals always pay to parent, and then each node is taxed individually by the castle they are under
digital yacht
@digital adder some do
crystal beacon
i would assume it's most similar to guild wars 2 based on description, but idk
rustic silo
What game has similar combat system to AoC?
@supple yarrow probably GW2 or ESO
digital yacht
The remainder of tax income can be used by the guild for whatever they want.[13]
rustic silo
Hybrid tab target
digital yacht
if the node u are in falls in the Castles AOI
crystal beacon
gw2 has active combat with both targetted and linear/aoe skills
it just doesnt have Z axis skilling
supple yarrow
@rustic silo ok, I played gw2 and enjoyed combat there so thats nice
crystal beacon
so if AoC has Z axis aiming it's different
digital adder
What can prevent a guild master to take control of a castle with his guild, and then put the taxes high and kick everybody of his guild to earn all of the money ?
digital yacht
@digital adder backlash from every1 else
wicked heath
he will earn money for a bit
rustic silo
Nothing
digital yacht
but it can happen
wicked heath
but they will seige him down and take it
crystal beacon
nothing? people will just vacate the ZOI
and then take it over once the time is up
rustic silo
But you cant defend it in a month time
If you got no people
And people would leave the region if taxes are high
Nodes will delevel
rustic silo
Yes
crystal beacon
noice
digital yacht
yes 5 castles
crystal beacon
4 on top, one underground iirc
so probably one in each quadrant of the map, if i had to guess
rustic silo
Probably
digital adder
okay one other question : if i see that a guild own a castle, why on earth would i go do stuff in that castle to pay taxes to player ? and why can i do in a castle that i need so much to pay those taxes ?
crystal beacon
probably quite a few things, but it'll mostly benefit the guild owning it
digital yacht
@digital adder bc no matter where u go u are paying taxes lol
crystal beacon
its sort of the intended mechanic, to make people want castles in the first place
wicked heath
@aek\
digital adder
i prefer to pay taxes to a node
crystal beacon
then do that lol
wicked heath
because they rule you, if the are being bad rules form a coalition against them
rustic silo
crystal beacon
there will likely be marginal benefits to castle ZOIs'
fossil shuttle
Can one guild own multiple castles?
crystal beacon
in exchange for benefiting the castle
rustic silo
No
sick kraken
When is tulnar concept art gonna be realeased
silver geyser
the funniest thing about this game is u can sneak to guild leader of the castle and just kill him 😄
digital yacht
@sick kraken we shall see tulnarss in game in Alpha 2
crystal beacon
sure, but does that actually accomplish anything significant?
digital adder
In total they will be only 5 castle and 5 metropolis ?
crystal beacon
oh dang, gotta respawn
digital yacht
yes
fossil shuttle
you can say you killed the king
digital yacht
@digital adder
crystal beacon
yeah, 5 metropolises that are independent of the castles
rustic silo
@digital adder yes
crystal beacon
so 10 major cities overall
rustic silo
Castle is not a city
silver geyser
Will there be any benefit of killing people that are in war with your guild ?
crystal beacon
its also possible that the underground ONLY has a castle ZOI
wicked heath
the metros will always be in a taxing region of a castle, but not ever castle region will have a metro
rustic silo
@crystal beacon underground has nodes same as aboveground
crystal beacon
there are going to be guild wars @silver geyser
digital yacht
The Underrealm has Nodes in it that can be leveled to Metros
digital adder
having a castle make you a what ? a " king" ? a " mayor " ? and if yes do you got the flying mount by having a castle ?
crystal beacon
so likely the only benefit will be during that time
digital yacht
King
fossil shuttle
Yeah the king/queen gets a flying moubt
digital yacht
@digital adder Castles = King/Queen Metro = Mayor and both get flying moutns for a total of 10
crystal beacon
towns have mayors before metro level as well
rustic silo
@wicked heath castle region is a static ZOI, it can have metro in it
digital yacht
@crystal beacon dont get flying mount until Metro tho
crystal beacon
right
digital adder
Oooo Okay i thought Metro was the big big city the more important but no apparently okay
rustic silo
Metro region can/can not have castle in it
wicked heath
yea they will bring in the most money
crystal beacon
from what i understand there will be zero non-player owned cities or facilities
rustic silo
Highest taxes from metro
rustic silo
Castle can tax a big region
wicked heath
well taxes arent the most important thing
rustic silo
I dont think anyone want to put high tax rate on it
wicked heath
castles can help all the nodes under their rule
so if they are unified there is a big bonus to acting as a kingdom
crystal beacon
if a city requires upkeep, then taxes will probably be high enough to do that in a metro
the money goes directly to the city in a metro, the owner only allocates it.
a castle is different i believe, but im not 100% sure on that.
full seal
How much of the game is going to be solo? as far as i can see most of the time your doing pve and pvp you will be grouped?
digital adder
i think that the smart thing to do if you own a castle is to put a taxes that makes happy everybody to last longer, be liked by the server and earn the most money 😈
digital yacht
@full seal u could theoretically play solo but i woudnt recommend
crystal beacon
steven has said there is enough solo content for people to be busy
but you won't be able to do all of the game solo, no.
the game is balanced around 8 players, so that likely means that certain classes are not solo viable
at least if you build towards group content versus solo content
wicked heath
well maybe if you change 2nd archetype you can do some stuff solo
full seal
so in reality if your looking to go out and pvp you better do it as a group since most the targets will be goups as well
and if your heading to a dungeon for pve you will need a group
crystal beacon
steven has also said pvp isn't intended to be 1v1 and certain classes will be stronger than others in a 1v1 context by design.
so if you want to go solo gank, you gotta figure out what works in a 1v1 context.
digital adder
I guess that i you want to play solo you should go for a strong dps class
full seal
Its just when you listen to the interviews and peoples opinions they seem to have it from a solo perspective
crystal beacon
possibly, or something like
a lot of self sustain
since basically if you sub class into cleric, you're going to get self-healing abilities
up to you on which you prefer
silver geyser
Assasin + something will probably be best solo class for pvp
full seal
I didnt think the augmented class gave you a heal - just a healign affect on your abilities
digital adder
yes we will need to see if the sustain is better than more dps
silver geyser
Did they confrimed will the gear matter when it comes to pvp ?
crystal beacon
thats what i mean @full seal
full seal
🙂
digital adder
gear matter yes i think
crystal beacon
or on cast
etc
it was explicitly stated a geared level 50 will be 40-50% better than an ungeared level 50.
digital yacht
Secondary Augments will NOT give u new abilites just alters existing ones
full seal
Do we know anything on the loot system?
tender siren
found a good question on reddit.
What do attackers have to lose? you siege a node, defenders have a chance to lose their stuff, what do attackers lose?
you attack a caravan, defenders have a chance to lose their stuff, what do attackers lose?
won't this be too good for the attacking side?
digital yacht
@full seal different ones are being tests
full seal
so if you kill a pve mob is it individual loot or need type
or if you kill a raid boss do you have your drop table
digital yacht
@full seal all to be tested
full seal
any idea on the phase?
crystal beacon
@tender siren talking out my ass but, likely siege weapons and npcs will cost money.
thats how its balanced in gw2 WvW
digital adder
StreamHeat : alot of time, preparation and ressources to craft their siege
full seal
i assume alpha 2
digital yacht
@full seal it will be tested doing the alphas
full seal
since isnt combat the focus of alpha 1
digital yacht
yes
crystal beacon
gw2 is part of the inspiration for this, so I'm guessing castle sieges will take some pointers from it
ashen ferry
if you went to the end of the map what would you encounter?
full seal
the edge 🙂
gray sphinx
Question. When will the alpha be?
crystal beacon
they are testing both flat earth and round earth versions @ashen ferry
digital yacht
@ashen ferry they are testing botth ways either a border or u will end at the other side
potent thunderBOT
full seal
alpha 1 is fall - so we got that as sept to dec
digital yacht
its piossible
tender siren
Question. When will the alpha be?
@gray sphinx Alpha 1 on fall 2020, Alpha 2 no date yet
full seal
its flat with a text wrap
gray sphinx
ok thank you.
digital adder
when we begin the adventure how do we get our first stuff ?
stray zinc
about how many nodes are there going to be on the map?
crystal beacon
103 nodes
wicked heath
@digital adder play the game
crystal beacon
how they are split up is not known
digital adder
Ike, i mean when you spawn , if there is no node how are you suppose to kill mobs and stuff ?
digital yacht
wicked heath
bro its an mmo, you will start with aspell or 2, some white rarity gear, go kill boars and do some missions for 1 hour until the node advances
stray dome
@wicked heath 15 ? wasn't it 5 Guildcastles?
digital adder
okay so you have stuff at the beginning okay
crystal beacon
5 castles, 15 nodes in them
digital yacht
5 Castles 5 Metros
a castle comes with 3 attached nodes that will max out at stage 3
stable plover
@digital adder There's also a little introductory area around the divine gateway spawn points for some very basic services, like your first gathering tool
wicked heath
5 guild casltes but guild castles control a zone with 3 castle nodes
full seal
whats a castle node?
crystal beacon
a node that is in the castles ZOI
tough sierra
I see a ranger/mage make a scion, what is a Scion? Don't think i've ever heard the term)
crystal beacon
zone of influence
full seal
well then theres more than 3
digital yacht
@full seal https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guild_castles
wicked heath
a guild castle will be on an area that has 3 castle nodes, the 3 castle nodes are always military type and care capped at node level 3
digital adder
ty greypelt
full seal
dont castles cotnrol a fifth of the map each
stray dome
I don't think 5 metros are seen that often though.
i mean 5 are the perfect stat right?
if 2 metros are to close, this isnt possible...
wicked heath
it wont happen naturally at the start
digital yacht
@stray dome correct their is a set distance needed
wicked heath
but it should happen later in the server history naturally
full seal
two metros cant be near each other as their zoi cant over lap - if they were to the second metro would be blocked
crystal beacon
only one metro can be allowed in each zone of influence, and only 5 per the whole map.
stray dome
@wicked heath I don't know, its a perfect state all citys need to be perfectly seperated...
wicked heath
no they dont, just the metros need to be perfectly seperated
crystal beacon
i think you'll see 5 metros pretty quickly, as well as all 5 guild castles taken quite fast, at least the above ground ones
wicked heath
yes that will be mid point of a server
full seal
not sure on castles as you need to beat the npc to take it
crystal beacon
the cycle for building a metro is "a couple weeks" where as taking it over is "once a month"
wicked heath
where the metros are citie states and the guilds have not unified 1+ metros
earnest parcel
i dont think metros will be a think for a bit
crystal beacon
so there will likely always be metros
earnest parcel
because people will be trying out seiges
wicked heath
they will be the quickest thing
stable plover
@crystal beacon "Castles" are fortresses that each roughly control 20% of the world and guilds are meant to fight over them - There are economic and prestigious benefits for doing so - Each of the castles have 3 special 'castle nodes' attached - They're always military nodes and max at level 3, Each week a different one of the castle nodes is sieged, the outcome of which affects the defense of the castle in the last week.
digital yacht
@crystal beacon metros cant be reseiged for 50 days
wicked heath
a super guild that gets a guild castle can just build a metro next to it if they are powerful enough
crystal beacon
even better for the metros then @digital yacht
stray dome
Is there some more info about how bards play out?
Bards a probably a class that's hard to get right,
so that its fun to play while being useful...?
digital yacht
@stray dome very little info
crystal beacon
im saying that metros are probably going to establish pretty quickly and likely stay up as long as people want them to be there.
earnest parcel
bard how i see it is the buff class, while cleric is the healer
tough sierra
hards seem like the losers in terms of leveling
low pond
Do we know how tanking will work? Like a threat level or a separate system?
wicked heath
threat system called hate but not much info on it I think
stable plover
@stray dome https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bard <- basically all the official info on bards
earnest parcel
@low pond based off the wiki for the tank class we have "hate" for agro
wicked heath
is the ZOI of a metro static once it advances to node 6 or are there ways to increase it?
low pond
So similar to wow threat prolly?
stray dome
@stable plover Not a single spell open right now?
crystal beacon
several skills mention wiping the threat off of someone
so likely there will be a threat balancing act
past ridge
how long will it take to advance a node from level 0 to 5 with a decent number of people contributing?
olive tangle
am i right in thinking the mobs dont drop money? they drop loot you sell? or something else?
crystal beacon
we don't know individual fight mechanics though
wicked heath
@past ridge define decent number of people, prolly a month
tough sierra
theyre using the tried and tested trio system so i imagine threat will work similarly
digital yacht
@past ridge
crystal beacon
certain fights "might" have threat specific mechanics to them
similar to how other trinity games are
low pond
Ok nice
digital yacht
@olive tangle humanoids may drop "money"
stable plover
@wicked heath the ZoI could technically grow, if say there was a node that was formally outside of it's influence that had it's parent destroyed causing it to move under the influence of the metro
earnest parcel
like things target second agro or least agro
past ridge
i don't know, is there a cap of players per server? maybe 50 people contributing to a node
crystal beacon
possibly, or randomly the boss starts targetting a different stat pool like healing or damage instead of threat
past ridge
;o