questions

[boreal abyss]

but prob

even Guild mates can end up as enemies

if they are part of 2 nodes that have declared war on eachother

then guild mates citizen A's will flag for guild mates citizen B's and vice versa

[stable plover]

@hasty moss I don't think Intrepid has specifically commented on that, but that seems to be the case

[distant charm]

Did they say if they will adjust Alpha 2's date depending desired player count to test A1? If say A1 testers stop playing or don't in the first place? Just wondering since i missed the Alpha 1 bandwagon, but i'm 100% on the Alpha 2 Bandwagon

[boreal abyss]

If they do not have enough A1 testers, tehy will most likely start selling A1 keys again

instead of moving up to A2 testing as that does not make much sense 😛

[distant charm]

Someone @ me when they do xD, i'll keep my eye open for that

[boreal abyss]

just keep an eye out for the news channel in here, or link it to your own discord, simplest way to keep up to date o/

[distant charm]

yeah i did that

[stable plover]

The things that can affect the A2 (mystery) date as far as we know are based on how the A1 testing goes (server stability/crippling bugs) and the development of the features intended for A2 going smoothly.

[wraith elbow]

Is the world round? If we sail west do we end up on the eastern most continent eventually?

[boreal abyss]

they are thinking about maybe doing so

will depend on possible issues that might occur or performance of the 2 options

[wraith elbow]

Cool, would be neat

[sleek cloud]

Question: With Guild Castles, we have information about guilds being 30-50 members minimum. When a siege happens, it's 250v250. Possibly 500v500 if that works out. With max guild size being 300, that almost guarantees the need to consider outside forces. With that all prefaced, will there be a consideration for alliances in guild castles? Such as, to keep an alliance from dominating 4/5 of the guild castles, perhaps it would be set up so that only one guild in the alliance can own a castle, and only that guild leader gets the mount, but the entire alliance can help develop the nodes, etc, and obtain the buffs or benefits for being associated with the castle, despite each individual guild's leader not being the one with the T3 mount?

Or, to follow up, has there been discussion of this situation, and thoughts on how to tackle it, brought to public light?

[ebon star]

player driven to my knowledge

[stable plover]

@sleek cloud https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alliances Basic overview of alliance systems in information we know so far

[ruby swift]

@hasty moss Beyond concept art there has been very little naval stuff shown. We have one instance of a naval caravan shown in game, but parked. None sold as skins. And just the one mount, so yeah, focus is probably on land or they just don't want to show more naval till they can shock and awe with it.

[sleek cloud]

Unknown, I believe they stated naval will be a big part, with lots of systems and such, they just haven't reached the point where they can work on that yet.

[ruby swift]

Oh, it is going to be a huge part of the game and we stretch goaled expanded systems. Just was answering why we have seen more land stuff than naval as an opinion.

[main ridge]

Is the world round? If we sail west do we end up on the eastern most continent eventually?
@wraith elbow pretty sure they mentioned that they wouldn't be doing that as it would prevent them from adding in dlc

[ruby swift]

There has not been a final decision made on flat Verra vs round.

[serene condor]

How do you guys feel about Mayor's gaining access to a One-Of-A-Kind Legendary item while they hold office?
Example:
• The Widow's Burden - Legendary Cloak

-UNIQUE EFFECT: While in a raid of 20 or more, nightfall and Blizzards are always present while inhabiting enemy nodes. Partied allies within 100m are unaffected by negative weather effects.

[dreamy trail]

Are there any downsides to losing on the attacking side of a node siege? Besides using up the siege declaration item?

[sacred tangle]

they already get royal mounts @serene condor

[serene condor]

Not cool enough

[boreal abyss]

@dreamy trail the cost and effort to make the declaration item + any personal loses from damages to your equipment and etc

[digital yacht]

@dreamy trail pll will be angry with them

[sleek cloud]

@dreamy trail The statement above cannot be under valued.

If you declare a node siege, you better win.

Just sayin'

@stable plover

"We have a specific system that relates to being able to invite another guild into an alliance that sets a flag on those characters with regards to being able to combat them, being able to share a chat system with them, being able to participate in specific types of quests and/or alliance warehouses and guild homes; with regards to the relationship of castle sieges and participating in node warfare and node activities. If you're not in an alliance with someone, you're in a neutral state so to speak. You can have trade agreements between different guilds and then you can also have Guild Wars which shows a state of war between you guys. I think that's the baseline of how we're going to develop interaction between guilds."

This seems to be trying to touch on what I was asking, but it is rather cryptic, and I find it hard to understand. He mentions alliances in relation to castles, but not their relation to castle nodes, or the benefits outside of siege support.

---

We already know mercenaries will be a thing, and that anyone can fill spots in the castle siege defense, and this page seems to indicate both a very close, and oddly distanced feeling of guilds within alliances, so I really find it hard to piece together exactly what he means.

[formal ravine]

@simple ether or anyone else who has played....in terms of combat i'm watching a lot of videos with some pretty slow animations. are we locked into what we are casting or will there be animation cancelling available?

if this is available on the wiki sory i missed it 😭

[sleek cloud]

From what i've gathered, some animations will be locked, while some will be fluid/cancelable, with often reduced effects, but that may just be where things are right now, and not indicative of the final product on this combat design.

[ebon star]

final combat isnt done yet but action hybrid so far felt alright but clunky

[sacred tangle]

Combat is extremely wip

[formal ravine]

yeah in watching those videos of the dude throwing the fireball for 3 seconds after the mob already died i was just mashing my cancel button out of habit for him

[sleek cloud]

Yeah. I'm thinking that heavy damage nuke spells may force you to commit like that, while more sustain damage/minimal spells may allow for more mobile agency.

[formal ravine]

just think in general it really impacts the smoothness of combat to be able to cancel, just an opinion though. thanks for the replies

[sleek cloud]

Certainly, but it's also risk reward. If you want the option to not commit....you trade off the power/punch of the action you were taking. It's honestly crazy from a balance standpoint to not require some amount of time commitment from the players in regards to the impact of the skill used, and it's up to the players to plan that skill usage out, and not get stuck in long animations on spells/skills that weren't needed.

[limpid gull]

Do we know if there's going to be any synergies/combos with other player skills? Kind of like how GW2 has combos between a projectile and a field/AOE skill?

Or is it just going to centered around how we set up ourselves, like they've explained already with the augments.

[surreal elk]

@limpid gull was stated earlier some class synergies will happen an example was given ranger using a trap and mage using a blink turn it into a frozen ground. Slowing all enemy's in it

[digital yacht]

@limpid gull the game is being balanced towards group play not individual play

[limpid gull]

No no, I know that, that why asked about synergies with other players.

[digital yacht]

yea it was stated that synergies in abilites are going to be present

[surreal elk]

Yep so my statement should help and answer your question but shadow is also correct

[limpid gull]

Good good, last thing I want is to deal with a system like FFXIV...

[surreal elk]

We have limited info or other examples then the one listed but they are planned yeah ffxiv is yikes

[sleek cloud]

FFXIV is a great game if you ignore their combat and skills design.

[limpid gull]

Hard to do, when you're always doing it lol. It's weakest point by far, good thing the story is good...most of the time.

Ty for the info by the way

[torpid tangle]

If AOC ends up with fast paced pvp like ESO but more balanced I'm going to cry out in ecstasy

[sleek cloud]

We'll see. It looks pretty likely for it to be something for everyone. There's quite a bit of player agency in how their skills are designed.

[limpid gull]

Indeed

[craggy harness]

besides the wiki, where else can we find AoC info?

[torpid tangle]

youtube has a bunch of Q&A's with devs @craggy harness

[neon ravine]

Question: can we break up the mask circle jerk in voice chat

[torpid tangle]

mask?

[neon ravine]

I live in a 10,000sq/mi county, and we have had 1-5 cases of coof at a time

[sleek cloud]

Nah, let'em circ the jerk about masks

[neon ravine]

How about this? If you folks live in shoeboxes on top of each other, you might want to wear a body condom

if you live in 95% of the country, maybe not so much

[sleek cloud]

This is not that chat for this. Please move elsewhere. Thank you for being part of the community, and I look forward to gaming with you when the game releases, but this isn't the time or place for this.

[digital yacht]

@craggy harness https://ashesofcreation.wiki/ https://ashes101.com/ https://ashespost.com/

3 of the more popular sites, all fan made

[rapid roost]

Hey guys just came to know about ashes yesterday, anyone know more about the possibility of devs reopening alpha test 1 slots?

[sleek cloud]

Daavid, it's possible, but unlikely.

[digital yacht]

@rapid roost if Alpha 1 goes smooth with all the 10k testers there is a chance

[rapid roost]

ok

I know for sure I will purchase the Alpha 2 but wanna get into this as soon as possible

[stray jewel]

Is there any race benefits or is it just lore based things?

[sleek cloud]

There's 10k prepped testers, and a whole extra list of reserved extra testers, and if all that goes smoothly, then they miiight give us more options.

[digital yacht]

races do have benefits

but they arent 100% determind yet

[rapid roost]

alpha 2 test dates still not released correct?

[digital yacht]

@stray jewel https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Racial_abilities

no

all we know is after Alpha 1

[rapid roost]

ok sounds good

[digital yacht]

@rapid roost my adice to u is watch streamers when alpha 1 starts, then if u are liking wshat u see bu the alpha 2 package and if a1 opens back up u can upgrade that packages

[rapid roost]

we can upgrade from voyager plus to alpha 1 then?

if space open up

[hearty ginkgo]

The earliest we can demo the game is later this year or possibly next year? 😦

[digital yacht]

@rapid roost yes

upgrading means paying the different

difference*

[rapid roost]

for sure

aight that sounds legit thanks

[hearty ginkgo]

I’d pay the max price to just demo this game and record gameplay :’(

[rapid roost]

10000 $ for the phoenix

[digital yacht]

unavailable now lol

[rapid roost]

wish I knew about this game earlier and had the money lol

[hearty ginkgo]

I’m not that rich...

[rapid roost]

XD

wouldve bought braver of worlds for sure

[digital yacht]

@hearty ginkgo keep a look out in a month or two after A1 starts u might just see a ping from Steven saying A1 sales are open again

[hearty ginkgo]

Will the packages change Over the course of time and not posses the alpha 2?

[digital yacht]

@rapid roost u could have bought the 25$ package and upgraded later :/

@hearty ginkgo it will be available until A2 ends or steven suspends the package(which would be during or after a2)

[sleek cloud]

Trust me shadow, if I even saw the kickstarter when it was active, I would've

[hearty ginkgo]

@digital yacht so if I buy the package now, I may have a chance to enter A1?!?!

[rapid roost]

25 voyager?

[digital yacht]

@hearty ginkgo u dont have to buy now

@rapid roost kickstarter

[rapid roost]

thought the cheapest on sale rn is 75 dollars

[digital yacht]

@hearty ginkgo a1 has a chance to open back up

[rapid roost]

kickstarter ended a looong time ago right?

[hearty ginkgo]

I was looking to buy the $250 because of the alpha and betas.

[digital yacht]

yea thats y i said u said u woulda bought braver if u had the money

[rapid roost]

yeah yeah

[digital yacht]

but if u saw it during KS u coulda bought 25$ packages and upgraded over time

@hearty ginkgo if u bought the 250$ u would have access to Alpha 2 but if steven opened the A1 sales again u could upgrade ur package to A1 for the difference in price

[rapid roost]

maybe, I was rlly hotheaded back then so I might just throw my money for a braver

[hearty ginkgo]

Which is the $375 one right?

[digital yacht]

no

375 is A2 with extra cosmetics

A1 will most likely stick around the 500$ price tag

as it has been since Kickstarter

[hearty ginkgo]

Ahhh and what’s the % chance he will open it for a limited time 😉

[digital yacht]

@hearty ginkgo cant give a percent it all depends on how well the alpha goes with teh first 10k players

[hearty ginkgo]

Cause this game has peaked my interest highly

[digital yacht]

if the servers are stable is a good example but there are many factors that he will be onsidering

[hearty ginkgo]

Wait? He’s not holding 2 servers for testing?

[digital yacht]

there will be multple

[hearty ginkgo]

Usually 2 servers are implemented for alpha stable issues

[digital yacht]

cant give access to 20k ppl if the 10k ppl are having issues

[hearty ginkgo]

Ahhhh true

What kind of issues if I may ask or is that not for public statement yet?

[tough sierra]

Will there be first person combat similar to ESO or will it be strictly 3rd person

[digital yacht]

this is all Steven said If everything goes swimmingly with beavers and intrepid pack holders, I will consider opening limited A1 sales.

There is a possibility of more A1 sales. But first must achieve stability with current testing population.

@hearty ginkgo

[hearty ginkgo]

Alright thank you 😁

[lament dagger]

Will loot drops be a bit more realistic? Like a wolf drop wolf related stuff instead of armor and weapons?

[torpid tangle]

yeah Steven talked about how certain mobs will drop mob based loot

so a wolf would drop a pelt and something along the lines of resources you could sell for gold

[grim breach]

Will there be first person combat similar to ESO or will it be strictly 3rd person
@tough sierra Previously they have shown the camera to be able to zoom in until first person mode. But that is years ago and may change in the future.

[digital yacht]

@tough sierra https://ashesofcreation.wiki/User_interface#Camera_settings

[torpid tangle]

Anyone know if xp is gutted when partied up?

[tough sierra]

Ah, so you can first person, but it wont play like ESO in that regard

[grim breach]

Currently the game already has two camera modes:

1. Action mode (closer to shoulder)
2. Tab mode (further and wider)

[digital yacht]

@torpid tangle nope,

[torpid tangle]

so you can party grind with no xp hinderance?

[digital yacht]

yes this is a party game

[torpid tangle]

k

[analog swan]

How do we play this game now?

[digital yacht]

u cant unless u have a Kickstart package with access to phoenix Iniative

[analog swan]

What’s Phoenix inistive?

Iniative

[digital yacht]

its a backer tier from Kickstarter totalling 2500$

LoM backers 1000$ are geting access to alpha 1 sometime next month

but neither of these are available nor is alpha for sale atm

[analog swan]

So those 75 dollar things don’t let you play? Even tho not aboutta spend 75 on an alpha

[digital yacht]

u pay 75 for the beta

which comes alot longer down the road

the alpha 2 is currently 250$ minimum

which might come some time next year

[red tiger]

Is Alpha 2 confirmed for next year or possible during 2020?

[digital yacht]

there is no confirmed date

[red tiger]

Cool, fingers crossed they will make it possible to get access for Alpha 1

[digital yacht]

Alpha 1 starts in Fall 2020, which could run 1 month or 12months we wont know until we start testing

[shy ermine]

Fellas, what's up with the images on the wiki

[analog swan]

Oh no

[digital yacht]

@shy ermine ?

[analog swan]

This game ain’t coming out till 2022?

[shy ermine]

Like look at the classes page

[digital yacht]

@analog swan 2-3 years

[shy ermine]

And the fighter page

Is that Ashes art?

[analog swan]

WHAT

[shy ermine]

[analog swan]

please tell me they’re going to have a system like ark had with their game

[digital yacht]

@shy ermine link?

[keen yarrow]

First we have to see New World fall from grace before this gets released

[rustic violet]

assuming it had grace to begin with

[shy ermine]

@digital yacht https://ashesofcreation.fandom.com/wiki/Classes

The info is top notch updated just wondering if the images are relevant

I might be trippin it's late

[digital yacht]

never seen this Wiki before

what particular image are u looking at?

[shy ermine]

Wrong wiki?

[digital yacht]

they are all fan made their is no official wiki

[limpid gull]

i'd suggest using this wiki instead...better quality I'd say

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/

[shy ermine]

AH YES

That's the one I remember

Thanks a lot

Forget my concerns

[digital yacht]

@analog swan what do u mean?

[keen yarrow]

Anyone who watched the scuffed phone call interview with Steven and Asmongold?

[grim breach]

https://ashesofcreation.fandom.com/ and https://aocwiki.net are severely outdated. They're no longer relevant or used.

[limpid gull]

pretty sure everyone has by now...right?

[drifting sage]

Thats what introduced me into the game

[digital yacht]

@keen yarrow what about it?

[analog swan]

Welp, kinda was pissed at new worlds but I need a grind game soon. So I guess new world will have to do. Kinda pissed the corporate heads had hype like aoc and then as soon as we were ready for it they shit on development and delayed it for another whole year. Hope the beta is at least fun to watch. Then I see this game. Thought this was about to release and was so happy. Just to find out it’ll take 2-3 years. Hope the devs get this right, they’ll have an ass load of money after this is done. See y’all later when I’m about to graduate college and then this finally releases. Lmao

[limpid gull]

shouldn't this discussion be on the "general-discussion" or "aoc-discussion" folks?

[analog swan]

@tall burrow back in like 2016 ark was technically unfinished Buggy asf but you could play it in beta until it officially released. Like dayz

[limpid gull]

Not to...bust anyone's chops, just saying before the mods get annoyed

[keen yarrow]

Nothing other than it just gave me hope in terms of the next potential MMO

[digital yacht]

@analog swan ye no Steven has said he wont release the game until he is happy with it

[keen yarrow]

and that's the way it should be

[limpid gull]

indeed

[keen yarrow]

Honestly I'm so happy that they are not tied to a release schedule

[drifting sage]

Im happy but also like I wanna play it so so so bad

[keen yarrow]

Though it can be a bit dangerous hyping this game so early on

[drifting sage]

yeah

[verbal sandal]

Do we have any info on which race will start on which gateway?

[crystal flax]

You can start anywhere

[digital yacht]

no but u can pick u are not locked

each race has their own Divine Gateway but u dont have to pick ur races gate

@verbal sandal https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Divine_gateways

[verbal sandal]

Cool

[red tiger]

When you pre-order the game, do you get some kind of email from Intrepid with your order or just the pay gate?

[digital yacht]

u will get a receipt but im unaware of what exactly gets sent when u purchase from their store

[red tiger]

I just got an email from Xsolla which feels kinda weird

[digital yacht]

Xsolla is the company that handles the payments

[red tiger]

yeah

And it just tells me the package and the cost, i did expect an email from the studio also

like, "Welcome to Ashes of Creation", this is the package with this cosmetics etc

[crystal flax]

As long as you see it in your account inventory you should be fine

[red tiger]

It says "You already own this item." over all the products in the shop, but I cant check the details of whats inside the package I order

[digital yacht]

yea the website is a WIP

[red tiger]

And order history just tells me amount and when I order

Ahh I see

[crystal flax]

There's a view more info button on them each, I can screenshot the one for the package you bought if you'd like?

[lament dagger]

Is there a known character limit?

[red tiger]

@crystal flax Im alright, I got a screenshot also. but would have been nice to see it online next to my order or something

[crystal flax]

@lament dagger "A comfortable amount", probably around 8

[digital yacht]

@red tiger there is this if u bought the 375$ one https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Voyager_plus_pre-order_pack

[red tiger]

@digital yacht Ahh sweet! Thanks mate

[lament dagger]

Can our other characters be citizens of other nodes and join different social orgs?

[digital yacht]

no ur account is citizen locked

but each character can join the NPC guilds like thieves guild

[slim drift]

So, I know there's a wiki page on the professions, but do we know how many of the professions we can have inside of our artisan class?

Is it 1 artisan class, 1 profession, or 1 artisan class and we can dabble in everything that artisan class has to offer?

[red tiger]

Is it possible to buy/get the cosmetics from a previous month like Mar 2020 - Jul 2020 package? (I LOVE IT) lol

[digital yacht]

@slim drift u can do everything in each profession, but u can only master one Tier ie Gathering/Processing/Crafting

[crystal flax]

Previous months no, once a set of cosmetics is past it's gone

[digital yacht]

@red tiger nope they are one time only

[red tiger]

Craps 🙂 thanks for the reply

[slim drift]

Ohh okay, awesome. So there's no limit to which profession we can do, only which we can master

[digital yacht]

yes

[slim drift]

Sweet! Thanks

[digital yacht]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes

[slim drift]

Ahhh okay, I somehow found the individual profession classes page and not the artisan explanation 😂

Thanks again

[digital yacht]

here is another explanation of it https://ashes101.com/artisan

[slim drift]

Awesome ^_^

Appreciate all the info

[keen yarrow]

So are addons not gonna be a thing?

[digital yacht]

no

[keen yarrow]

what are the benefits of that?

[digital yacht]

no addons or mods wil lbe in the game

[elfin crow]

I heard like a week or two ago they reopened the kickstarter donations, did that close?

[sacred tangle]

No addons = no boss mods = skill requirement

[crystal flax]

@elfin crow You heard wrong

[digital yacht]

@elfin crow it never got added

[crystal flax]

KS has been closed for years

[elfin crow]

ok thanks you guys, I shouldve done it when i saw it like 2 years ago lmao

[digital yacht]

@keen yarrow https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Action_bar#Addons.2Fmods

[keen yarrow]

yeah but I mean even something like Recount/Details! for WoW I wouldn't say is cheating just useful info

[digital yacht]

yea but he wants the info to be found by the player not a computer

[sacred tangle]

There are more downsides than benefits

[digital yacht]

Mods ruin the longevitity and exploration of the game IMO it is not up for discussion, this is the Questios channel so if u wanna discuss further on why u think ashes needs mods take it to a new channel 🙂

[keen yarrow]

I get that addons can be dangerous but I just thought that there would be a way to control what is allowed when developing an addon

[digital yacht]

addons arent made by devs in most games they are a result of an open API

[sacred tangle]

If the API is that limited there is no point having one anyway

[digital yacht]

it wont be limited just not open

[tough sierra]

addons are one of the biggest things i cant wait to keep an eye on

[sacred tangle]

thats what Im saying

better having none than a useless one

[tough sierra]

cause while the devs might not want it a lot of people find them integral

[sacred tangle]

the people who find it integral are not the target audience

[tough sierra]

you'd be surprised

[sacred tangle]

by what

[copper hound]

Lol no

[digital yacht]

the ppl who want addons are the ones who dont want to work in the game, they want everything spoonfed to them addons make the game boring...

[tough sierra]

You're only talking about people who want addons for combat purposes

[digital yacht]

no?

[copper hound]

As a guy that spreadsheets games, add-ons are great. But aren't good for the game

[sacred tangle]

the only addons that are acceptable are aesthetic

[empty fjord]

addons are only necessary if the ui is shit.

[sacred tangle]

and aesthetic addons arent worth implementing

[grim breach]

They've already explained their stance regarding the addons. You think you can make them bend to your will, go ahead and try.

[tough sierra]

who decides if the UI is shit?

[digital yacht]

no1

[keen yarrow]

One does not simply create the perfect UI

[sacred tangle]

community at large

[empty fjord]

the beholder

[tough sierra]

should people not be able to tailor it to their enjoyment

[sacred tangle]

that's why they're giving extensive UI customisation options

[copper hound]

Add-ons ruin game balancing

[digital yacht]

ashes is going for a very customizable UI that wont need addons

[tough sierra]

that's good to hear

[sacred tangle]

theres a big difference between letting you customise your UI and allowing addons

[keen yarrow]

Like for example I really love ElvUI for WoW because that thing is so customizable

[sacred tangle]

the intent they have is to make the base UI as good as elvui effectively

[tough sierra]

WoW is a bad example to look at in regards to UI customization

[sacred tangle]

and thats all you get

[tough sierra]

because there is none

[digital yacht]

We will have a lot of customization present in the both from a UI perspective as well as different data points that will be naturally in the game, but we don't want to open up the mod game just yet. That might be a decision we change in the future but, it's not planned for release.[31] – Steven Sharif

[sacred tangle]

wow has the most extensive addons in the industry

[keen yarrow]

@tough sierra True, which is where ElvUI comes in

[sacred tangle]

idk what you're talking about chaos

[tough sierra]

I thought we were talking about games without addons, friend

[copper hound]

Wow is why you don't do addons

[sacred tangle]

I mean the guy specifically mentioned an addon when he was talking about customisation of it

[digital yacht]

lets take this away from the questions channel as this is a discussion now

#aoc-discussion

[tough sierra]

i dont remember mentioning the addon myself

[keen yarrow]

If the possibilities of ElvUI will be in AoC then i'm down

Anyway, the more customization the better 🙂

[potent thunder]

** Reminder to stay on topic **

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This channel is for the community to help one another answer questions and resolve issues outside of Customer Service.

[copper hound]

Or group vs group

[analog swan]

There will be naval combat yes?

[sacred tangle]

We don't know specifics but presumably if a group all attack an unflagged player and they die without fighting back all the attackers will gain it

[crystal flax]

It currently works on a killing blow system, will get tested extensively though so no worries

[empty fjord]

that sounds exploitable, they should add corruption proportional to the damage dealth

to each aggressor

[boreal abyss]

@lunar harbor group will become corrupt, I think split the corruption to an extent as well

Not sure if I remember correctly however

[empty fjord]

Can mounts and mules perma die?

[slow sky]

No

If a mount is killed it goes on cooldown before reuse

[inland raft]

1.Is the game going to let us run multiple windows? does it require multiple payed accounts?
2.Is there any info on how bard classes will work? in lineage we had an dillema where pure buff classes were being boxed because they had 0 combat potencial outside of the buffs and on the other side of the coin there are buffs with 3 minute duration that becomes obnoxious to reapply non stop to your party members one by one. ( perfect example prophet-hierophant if anyone is familiar with lineage )

[slow sky]

The only “perma” die ones are the time limited royal mounts from rare egg drops

1. No, you will need separate rigs to multi box and yes you will need multiple subs
   2.they will be a buff/debuff heavy support class we don’t really have much beyond that until Alpha 1

[sacred tangle]

???? do you have literally any source on "separate rigs to multi box"?

[slow sky]

Steven himself has said it plenty of times

[sacred tangle]

Separate accounts is common sense but rigs? I haven't heard anything about this

[red tiger]

Is this game made for multiple CPU cores ? would it run better on a 8-16 core cpu?

[sacred tangle]

Dont think can really say at this point

[empty fjord]

if Unreal engine 4 is made for multiple cores, then the game will be too

[slow sky]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/414097423716188162/734075119865036840/unknown.png?width=1043&height=661 this should answer better than I did

@sacred tangle

[sacred tangle]

I dont see any mention of separate rigs

but at that point it's not really multiboxing anyway

so really @inland raft you can run multiple windows and yes it requires multiple paid accounts but they each have to be individually controlled

[inland raft]

Thanks =]

[sacred tangle]

no problemo

[keen yarrow]

What is the little checkbox at the exp bar to the right supposed to do? Assuming that is a checkbox

[sacred tangle]

we don't know

game and ui is wip

very wip

[desert ivy]

Yeah, that UI isn't the final UI or anything. Steven and Co have described it as a "programmers UI" that's basically just there to do its job and not look pretty.

[sacred tangle]

its most likely not even a checkbox

all things considered

[tender siren]

does the game already have decided server locations?
I'm on east asia and I would like to play this game once it comes out

[grim breach]

Maybe a PI who played in that test can tell us what it is

[keen yarrow]

Yeah I assumed. Just curious because I have nothing to do atm

[grim breach]

@tender siren EU, NA and SEA/OCE. SEA/OCE is not decided whether it will be in SEA or OCE.

[sacred tangle]

possibly both if the game gets popular enough

[tender siren]

okay, those locations are better for me than NA or EU

how about the alpha 2 tests? did they already say which servers?

[sacred tangle]

Alpha 1 tests havent even started

[tender siren]

oh I thought Alpha 1 tests are already ongoing?

[keen yarrow]

Do you think 2 alpha's per year is to be expected?

[tender siren]

Alpha 1 [Currently in QA Testing]

[sacred tangle]

as in

They are QA testing Alpha 1 prior to release

[tender siren]

this is what it says in the reddit information hub

[sacred tangle]

of alpha 1

[slow sky]

Alpha 1 is fall 2020

[sacred tangle]

Do you understand what I mean streamheat

[tender siren]

you mean public testing

[sacred tangle]

basically they are testing alpha 1 in-house right now before they release alpha 1 to people with access

[tender siren]

anyways, game doesn't need to be in alpha 2 for information regarding server locations to not be released

[sacred tangle]

Server information isn't finalised

[tender siren]

my question was if the alpha 2 would have a chance to be available in SEA/OCE

[sacred tangle]

chance yes guarantee no

It's feasible

[grim breach]

Alpha 1 will come in the fall.

They did Alpha 1 (QA) which is pre-Alpha 1 internally and with PI members. It's not Alpha 1.

[tender siren]

okay, thanks

[grim breach]

@tender siren https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Servers

[tender siren]

Ashes of Creation will launch with the following server regions:[1][2]

North America (NA).[3][4]
Europe (EU).[3][4]
Asia/Pacific (SEA).[5][4]
Oceania (OCE).[5]

thanks 🙂

[keen yarrow]

what are those numbers

[grim breach]

Citations from the wiki.

[keen yarrow]

oh

[grim breach]

These are the servers for A1. A2 is not known. It might be all or NA/EU only as A2 will be persistent. Meaning it will become the PTS server post-launch.

[echo bramble]

man i hope the eu servers stay in frankfurt

[tender siren]

by having no NDA, this means content creators can post videos/stream the game while in Alpha-1 right?

[grim breach]

Yes.

[sacred tangle]

absolutely

[tender siren]

the confidence haha

I love this studio

[sacred tangle]

IKR

You have to have some big ass balls to allow streaming this early

[toxic sierra]

Hey there 😁 how can i join alpha 1?

[tender siren]

from what I'm reading in WIki, no one can join Alpha-1 anymore right?

[grim breach]

You can't anymore. It may open up in the future but that is not decided.

[sacred tangle]

Alpha 2 is the earliest you are currently able to get into

[tender siren]

best chance for now is to buy the package to get into alpha 2

[rapid roost]

If Alpha 1 is opened up and lets say one purchases the upgrade to alpha 1, does it still come with backers benefits?

[ember shell]

how do i find my kickstarter backer number?

[grim breach]

@rapid roost Most likely not. There was an Alpha 1 pre-order pack before. It's $500. Intrepid Pre Order Pack.

[fringe breach]

so with open world pvp, what are they doing about streamers like are they going to have like a "streamer mode" or are they expecting their fanbase to protect them from getting stream sniped lol

[distant charm]

If you backed at the kickstarted phase, but then forgot and then backed again on the website is there a way to combined those pledges?

[grizzled latch]

@ember shell go to the ashes kickstarter page, click view pledge and its right after your payment info

@distant charm you have to link your ks pledge to an account through ashes support

[ember shell]

i found it thanks ^_^

[wintry moat]

is anybody here can help me with RP ?

[grizzled latch]

Looking for a guild? Try the guild chat channel

[distant charm]

i see that now thanks, now i have to find the key code to put in to my account RIP

[inland raft]

Will the augments/subclasses reset like world of warcraft talents ? etc: if you are not in combat or in town you can change it all

or it's more like

go to npc

pay cash

get reset

[knotty tiger]

Changing the augmentations on your skills will require you to go to a NPC in a Village node or higher

Direct quote from the wiki

[grizzled latch]

To change subclass will require a quest of some sort

[west ridge]

I dont want to be a skeptical or anything like that at all. But is there proof of steven funding that much money? The head guy of Elyria said he donated 500k of his own money and that ended up being a lie

[lament dagger]

i think he's a businessmen, i think the 30mil was from private investors, not entirely sure, still learning this stuff.

[desert ivy]

No, it's entirely his money

[lament dagger]

ok, ty for clarifying.

[desert ivy]

Obviously there's a bit that comes from the Kickstarter and pre-order packs

But he's pledged 40m so far of his own money

[west ridge]

yet again I don't want to be like oh he is a scammer. He seems very nice but I dont want another Elyria shit

[boreal abyss]

@west ridge
If you think a company that size can run for 3 years (in San Diego, California) with 3-4 million from kickstarter

[desert ivy]

In California especially

[west ridge]

Didn't Elyria run for quite a bit?

Just a question, I am not saying he is scam or anything of the sort I also have high hopes for the game but I am worried like I said its an elyria shit again

[boreal abyss]

I know, I was just pointing out that a company that size running for 3 years on only 3-4 million is an illogical conclusion

[west ridge]

that's true

[crystal beacon]

how does someone have 40 million just like that

it's so baffling for someone like me

[grim breach]

By not having 40 mil just like that.

[boreal abyss]

rich from real estate

[crystal beacon]

man i wish i wsa smart

[grim breach]

You can search for Steven Sharif on the Internet and decide for yourself what kind of man he is.

[crystal beacon]

idk i trust him

based on what u guys say

[formal abyss]

I've purchased the Name Reservation but can't seem to find where to use it. Have they started reservations yet?

[grim breach]

Not yet.

[formal abyss]

K thx

[frozen lava]

Why, as an Australian do I have to pay a VAT fee of 10%? Is that just our GST or something? Far as I know, PayPal doesn't take tax close to that much and other games I buy there's no VAT fee unless you're from the EU?

[crystal beacon]

how much does that cost

[static thistle]

Do the cosmetics in the preorder packs change or does it stay the same?

[crystal beacon]

name reserve

[formal abyss]

its the highest pack onthe AOC site

$375

[grim breach]

@static thistle Changes every month

If you missed a month, you're not going to be able to purchase them anymore.

[crystal beacon]

i am going to save money on odd jobs

[formal abyss]

You get most of that money back in value in sub time/currency

[static thistle]

Ah okay thanks

[crystal beacon]

and meanwhile read on aoc

[formal abyss]

you get most of the time if you include alpha/beta access

[static thistle]

Dont rate these ones so ill wait till next month then ^^

[crystal beacon]

i think 400 is worth it because of the dream

[formal abyss]

Its owrth if you include game time in alpha/beta + launch

[crystal beacon]

i dont have lot of mony i recently spent on new pc

[analog swan]

This money going to Kickstarter fundings?

[frail solar]

So animal husbandry allows you to make mounts correct? Can those mounts be traded to other players?

[formal abyss]

I purchased through the main site so unsure @analog swan

@frail solar Prob

[grizzled latch]

@frail solar yes mounts will be tradeable

[surreal void]

Yes @frail solar

[frail solar]

Thanks!

[surreal void]

Do we know how the cosmetic shop will work? Will it be just new monthly stuff that is limited or will it be a full collection of stuff you can look through whenever?

[crystal beacon]

will be currency called embers

so probably this month preordering is limited edition but there will be more cosmietic to buy thats my theory

embers is currency u can buy for use in cosmetic

[faint fjord]

the livestreams are monthly or not scheduled ?

[grim breach]

Monthly

Usually at the end of the month. They'll announce one week prior.

[faint fjord]

thanks mate

[empty fjord]

should be announced today or tomorrow

[limpid sapphire]

the preorder cosmetics change every month?

[empty fjord]

yup. been a couple months break but yes they cycle monthly

[limpid sapphire]

this makes me wonder if i should wait a month for a different cospemic

Li

😮

[empty fjord]

once you buy a package you can buy any upcoming cosmetics separately

equal to your package level that is

[silent bluff]

Hello, i have a question regarding Account creation for EU, i have seen some of the info about my.com but am not sure if i should create an account through my.com or the official website for AOC?

[limpid sapphire]

gear progression usually means having cool looking gear, i worry about the ember shop making gear progression feel less rewarding?

[silent bluff]

i also know that there have been some controversies about My.com but all the info is around 1yo on reddit.
has there been any more info regarding that recently?

[grim breach]

Intrepid retains full creative control for AoC on EU. My.com will only publish the game. They have signed the contract and have metrics they will have to adhere per their agreement.

[queen snow]

whats the official AoC twitch channel?

thank you

[main merlin]

Spec requirements for ashes?

[desert ivy]

There aren't any definitive spec requirements yet, afterall, the game is still 2 or more years out.

[muted hull]

hello, there will be giveaways with keys for aoc?

[main merlin]

What about for alpha @desert ivy

Will it be thhe same like in apoc

[desert ivy]

There will be beta 2 key giveaways closer to the beta 2 test date which is currently unknown

[silent bluff]

@grim breach thanks for the info 🙂 do you know if i am supposed to play on eu do i need to create my account through My.com or can i do it through AOC site?

[grim breach]

There are no region locks. You are free to create accounts on any of them. If you want to play on EU servers, My.com. Else, the official AoC website.

[silent bluff]

oh ok

[grim breach]

Keep in mind that I've heard from EU players that My.com doesn't sell up to date packs? Or any packs?

[silent bluff]

yeah i was on their website and they dont seem to have packs right now

[grim breach]

They mentioned that you can create an account on AoC website, buy the packs/cosmetics, then you might be able to transfer to your My.com account in the future.

[silent bluff]

im more concerned about if my.com will be to invasive on the game itself

i know they have creative control but they have said that in the past and still imposed rules that fucks games up

worst case i will play on 150ping on us servers

[silent bluff]

i surely hope so 🙂 i have hope and wont condemn them from the start!

I guess it is just a waiting game right now!

[desert ivy]

We can breathe soundly that at least there won't be any P2W features in the shop on EU servers, even with my.games running it. The main problem lying ahead is if they can deliver good servers.

[echo pike]

is there anyway to get the alpha version for free?

[desert ivy]

Nope

[faint plover]

My.com Will be able do in game changes ?

Like gameforge?
Fór example Aion And Tera Are under GeForce in Europe, And they fuc... Thé game .....

[desert ivy]

No

They can't change the game

Intrepid retains 100% creative control

my.games are basically just hosting the servers

and will be the customer service

[echo pike]

Does this games have duel welding?

[faint plover]

Intrepid retains 100% creative control
@desert ivy i Hope you Have right. Because i Believe ONLY in intrepid, if they sold EU servers to another company i Will be sad

[desert ivy]

The whole reason they signed up my.games is because Intrepid interviewed/met with most of the publishers in EU yet my.games were the only ones willing to accept Intrepids terms.

[analog swan]

Really early to be buying pre order

Guessing that’s how they get their dev money

[untold belfry]

Everyone is still concerned about my.com regardless

[echo pike]

Hope i can play this game for free

[desert ivy]

Of course, and they have every right to be. I'm an EU player to.

[analog swan]

I’ll have graduated by the time this is done so sad

[sinful mortar]

it's sub-based so free is not a thing at launch

[desert ivy]

The only way you can play for free is by referring people to the game

[untold belfry]

@echo pike as of right now, I believe itll be subscription

[desert ivy]

For example, if you refer 7 people who all buy a subscription, then you can theoretically play for free

However, there is no free to play version of the game and there aren't any plans for there to be

[analog swan]

Is it like once your subscription is done you can’t play at all? Or is it like limited like swtor

[echo pike]

So it will be free, but not at launch, right?

[desert ivy]

No

Not free to play at all

period

no subscription, no playing

[echo pike]

but why it says in the google its free to download

[analog swan]

Lol way for devs to keep steady income

One time purchase model better

[silent bluff]

you will not have to buy the game But you need to pay 15$ a month in subscriptions fee to be able to play

[analog swan]

Oh Lordy 100 dollars a year

[echo pike]

f

[desert ivy]

Probably because it doesn't say it's free to download. The Apocalypse game mode was free, but that isn't the MMORPG.

[analog swan]

That’s expensive for one game

[desert ivy]

Well a year it will be $180

[analog swan]

120 a year

[desert ivy]

$15 a month

15 * 12 = 180

[analog swan]

Yeah that’s a lot

[faint plover]

15 a month Is good Price guys

[desert ivy]

It's the same as most other sub MMORPGs

[echo pike]

hope, this all turns to lie. I don’t wanna Pay2Play

[silent bluff]

yeah its pretty standard for a large MMO

[faint plover]

You must calculated with there Is no P2W in game.

[desert ivy]

Well it's not a lie. If you don't want to pay, find another game

It's that simple

[analog swan]

Let me guess, is there going to be cosmetics for purchase

[echo pike]

Sad.......

[desert ivy]

There is a cosmetic shop

[analog swan]

Is there going to be micro transactions

Oof

[desert ivy]

You can read up all this on the wiki

[faint plover]

Is there going to be micro transactions
@analog swan yes, but ONLY cosmetics

[desert ivy]

it can explain it more in depth and faster than me

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Cosmetic_store

[silent bluff]

look at wow for example 13$ a month + new expansion every three years at 50$

[analog swan]

Hopefully you can get nice cosmetics for actually playing the game

[echo pike]

so this game is pay2play but not pay2win lol

[desert ivy]

Yes, there will be cosmetics earnable in game that are just as good quality as the shop ones

Yes, it's pay to play but not pay to win

[white sand]

I hope they adjust the currency for other places , 15$ is 3.5x that in my currency which is a lot for me although if they deliver the game i will still play the game regardless

[analog swan]

How much was swtor monthly?

[silent bluff]

so there will be droppable skins? i havent seen anything regarding that

[desert ivy]

They will not be adjusting the cost depending on the region

[scenic owl]

Speaking of cosmetics, will you be able to transmogrify in AoC? I don't mind having store cosmetics if they're unique, but being able to transmog your gear would be nice.

[desert ivy]

It's $15 everywhere in the world

Yes you can transmog

[echo pike]

so how is beta testing going on? how to get beta?

[desert ivy]

You wait 2 years

since we haven't entered alpha yet

[silent bluff]

alpha starts in the fall

[scenic owl]

Alpha one end of july though?

[echo pike]

yeah......

[analog swan]

It’s actually a really good way to make money not gonna lie

[white sand]

I think beta 1 will be next spring

[analog swan]

Anyone know how much they’ve put into the game?

[desert ivy]

Beta will not be in Spring

[echo pike]

yoo

[desert ivy]

Alpha 1 MAY be in Spring if everything goes well

[grim breach]

Put what, specifically?

[desert ivy]

But definitely not beta

[analog swan]

Excluding people kickstarting it via

[white sand]

Alpha 1 is late this year though

[analog swan]

How many ppl r on each server

[desert ivy]

Yes

[echo pike]

in the google it says no subscribtion required

[desert ivy]

And we still have to go through Alpha 2 after Alpha 1

[scenic owl]

Didn't they say in the Asmongold interview that they're planning on a winter 2020 release or beta?

[desert ivy]

No they didn't

[scenic owl]

Hmm

[white sand]

Oh right ..i meant alpha 2 in spring ..keep forgetting it

[desert ivy]

Beta 1 will probably be late late next year or early 2022 in my personal opinion

[echo pike]

it doesn’t require subscription

[white sand]

Beta 1 will probably be late next year same as alpha 1 yea

[echo pike]

google says so

[desert ivy]

That says Apocalypse

Apocalypse isn't the MMORPG

[white sand]

So id assume the game will probably launch summer 2022

[desert ivy]

@white sand That's my personal guess as well

but it depends on how the alphas and betas go

[silent bluff]

apocalyps is the battle royale they used to test the combat system

[desert ivy]

Apocalypse is their testing grounds for their base systems such as action combat, their backend infrastructure, etc

It is not representative of the MMORPG though

[echo pike]

so Apokolips is the battle royals?

[white sand]

Ye we dont know for sure it could be earlier or longer depending on how much stuff they finished and how testing goes

[faint plover]

@desert ivy what do you think? Your opiniom Will be on time 2022 od later?

[desert ivy]

The BR is a part of Apoc. There are 2 other parts including Castle Sieges and Horde Mode.

[white sand]

I think next time apocalypse lunch it'll be a castle siege

[desert ivy]

Apoc is currently closed and will be available again some time after A1

My opinion on launch is Summer 2022, but again, 100% my opinion

With no basis

[silent bluff]

to me it sounds like the MMO will release late 21 early 22 depending on eventual setbacks

[echo pike]

If it’s free to play im in, or to broke to pay... im out

[desert ivy]

Well I guess you're out

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Subscription_model

[echo pike]

yea. 😦

[analog swan]

If they can secure a player base of at least 100k people, at 15 dollars a months, that’s at least 12 that’s 18 million, they’re gonna have to pump out some hella micros to compensate for revenue

[white sand]

About nodes wouldnt all nodes develope in the low lvl/early game areas

[silent bluff]

or if you succeed in referring 7 guys who subscribe, then you can play for free 😉

[analog swan]

See y’all later when this game releases, tired of talking about a game coming out in 2 years, see y’all when I graduate.

[echo pike]

so if someone plays this game for upcoming 5 years he will pay 900$

[silent bluff]

pretty much

[white sand]

I mean 900$ for a few years isnt much

[silent bluff]

if dumped much more inte games like wow or dota 2

[white sand]

Not like u worry about your Netflix account now do u

[echo pike]

i hope they will do as much development as much they get the money, or else people will start leaving

[desert ivy]

If you have a job in most first world countries, you earn $900 is a couple of weeks or less

[echo pike]

lol

[desert ivy]

So for 5 years vs working a couple of weeks

that's a damn good deal

[faint plover]

If it’s free to play im in, or to broke to pay... im out
@echo pike Bro if you buying games like Witcher 3, Ghost od thusima, thé last of US,you Are playing game max 1month And Price Is a lot of bigger. And you hate subcription 15 per month.

[echo pike]

i don’t pay for my own netflix

[sleek cloud]

I mean. If money is the problem, then your life situation is likely not conducive to playing for an extended time either way. If you aren't old enough to work, and your parents wouldn't pay for you to play the game, you're not in an environment where they'd appreciate the time sink of an MMO either way. And if you are old enough to get a job, then you just don't want to play badly enough, as $16 a month is less than most entertainment.

[echo pike]

I never brought a game yet tho...

cracked all the way

[faint plover]

I never brought a game yet tho...
@echo pike that you must know this games isnt fór you, And ONLY shit games Are free

[white sand]

Even a kid could easily save 15 dollars from his pocket money

[echo pike]

i will love to pay, if it’s really worth playing. And if it have every single feature that a mmo rpg should have

[white sand]

Hell he probably get more than that in a day

[desert ivy]

Again, this is a questions channel. If you want to discuss the subscription model or whatever you can go to one of the chat channels.

[white sand]

I did ask a question tho

[echo pike]

i did too

[limpid sapphire]

anyone else buy a founders pack only to find the VAT is painful

[sleek cloud]

@white sand Not true, I did not earn pocket money as a child. Though, my father would have paid a game sub for me if I wanted to play such a game then.

[echo pike]

ok nice to talk with u all

[white sand]

Wont all nodes that develop be ones in low lvl areas where players start

[echo pike]

im still a child tho lol

[sleek cloud]

Swagoo

[white sand]

?

[desert ivy]

@white sand As the game starts out, yes. But as the game develops and more people venture out, those nodes will begin levelling as well.

[sleek cloud]

Not necessarily. For instance, i'm attempting to organize a nearly 1k player migration at launch to attempt rushing a node in a strategic location as soon as possible. Since the NPCs show up where you put in the work, this is easily plausible.

[white sand]

Yea but early lvl nodes will be way ahead tho

[desert ivy]

For example, maybe someone wants to develop a Military node, but there are no military nodes near the starter zone. Maybe they'll have to venture out further from the divine gateways.

[white sand]

Also if eventually nodes become in the high lvl areas wont low lvl players miss a lot of stuff as there is no way to get them without a high lvl node

[sleek cloud]

In all honesty, it depends on the level of organization of your server population.

[desert ivy]

There will be low level mobs even around high level nodes

[white sand]

Sure but i m talking about quests n stuff

[desert ivy]

There aren't strictly X level zones really

[echo pike]

can we duel wield in the game?

[desert ivy]

Here's a quote from Steven

[sleek cloud]

A server with 10-15 well organized alliances vying for power from launch, vs a server with no stable guilds at launch, will look and play vastly different for players at all levels

[desert ivy]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Leveling#Zones_and_progression

@echo pike Yes, you can dual wield with one handed weapons

[sleek cloud]

@echo pike Great Axe master race, join the tide.

[echo pike]

If I play I will go with duel daggers

[white sand]

I mean i hope so , the map and monsters being just in random places which would make nodes in high lvl places non existent as there wont be high lvl areas

[echo pike]

And crossbow for 2ncd class if they have it

Do they have crossbows?

[desert ivy]

Yes there are crossbows

[brave swift]

At which state of a node is it clear what type they are?

[desert ivy]

After the first level

[brave swift]

thanks

[shut fossil]

i imagine it like FFXIV where you get high level monsters further away from town / in areas that lowbies arent going to walk into them easily

[sleek cloud]

Just know before launch, pepega

[white sand]

Like u will be able to make a node in a place near high lvl mobs because there was high lvl mobs in the particular spot not cuz the area itself is infested with high lvl mobs everywhere

[echo pike]

So do we get to do something creative in the game?

[sleek cloud]

@shut fossil @white sand Nope, you both missed the mark. Mobs will be mixed, and more will spawn as the nodes advance. You can find high level mobs one spawn area away from newb mobs. They specifically stated you'll have to pay attention to your surroundings for danger, and no one's safe walking in the wilderness.

[echo pike]

Base building or weapon artistic and all?

[shut fossil]

well i said like not the same

[sleek cloud]

Yeah

[echo pike]

Who's up for playing Runescape3? 😹😹

[brave swift]

you can build your own appartement.

[white sand]

Thats what i meant and that what i was about to say too

[echo pike]

Nice

[white sand]

Like u could walk and find low lvl mobs and near them high lvl ones

[sleek cloud]

They're putting, as far as i've found, a 'realistic' feel to exploration. Think of it this way, the world has no scaling. Why would all the level 40 mobs chill together, when easier prey is elsewhere? They need to hunt and eat, too. They're not just chilling to be killed in an easily sectioned off spot, my dood.

[white sand]

My concern is that nodes lets not say in high lvl areas but further away from the new player spawns will be higher lvl

So i hope i will still get quest in it even if my lvl is low

But looking at the game i think and hope i can get my ass anywhere i want and find suitable quests everywhere i go

[sleek cloud]

Yes!

You can

[slow sky]

Me in ashes

[sleek cloud]

You can get player-progression quests of your level anywhere, so long as those relevant NPCs are available. In fact, many progression paths are only available at higher node tiers.

[visual locust]

Will mount collection be a thing? Like you have a catalogue of the mounts you own and can use.

[white sand]

Hopefully

[sleek cloud]

@visual locust SUUUUPER big yes! There's 2 whole artisan classes built around making this happen

[white sand]

I mean ESO did it in a way as u can go to any area and the quest and monsters will scale to tour level so u can lvl anywhere you want

[visual locust]

Awesome! i love collecting stuff and showing these things off a bit hahha 😂

[shut fossil]

I'm curious as to whether there will be large events that reset a nodes status. Smaug destroying Erebor in the Tolkien universe as an example.

[sleek cloud]

@white sand That won't be happening here, but you need to understand that quests won't just be killing monsters your level for x EXP. You're fundamentally misunderstanding. You "Class" level is just one of maaaaany progression paths.

[white sand]

I know dude i was just making an example

[slow sky]

Monster sieges are a thing after a node progresses but it wont fully destroy the node like a node siege will, but can turn off node services for a time

[white sand]

Also Speaking of mounts and pets since u can breed them to get new pets

How is that gonna work

[shut fossil]

just wondering as once a node gets capped it would good to have something eventually reset it letting players start again on a different path.

[white sand]

Like is it already specfied what u get or its random

[copper hound]

Please don't discourse at length here

[sleek cloud]

On top of monster coin events, there will be others, too. If you build a metropolis near a volcano, for instance, a fire dragon may emerge to attack it, and if you don't defeat it, then you may loose many node services for a time, indicative of the node being "Damaged" and needing repair.

Galren, these are new players asking questions

It's not just a random discussion

[visual locust]

How is that gonna work
@white sand Also curious about this

[white sand]

Like u breed 2 animals and the pet u get will be randomly made by mixing random body parts of the parents and his stats and whats hes better at will be what body parts he have more off

[shut fossil]

a lot of this is speculation so it is going to form some sort of short discussion.

[sleek cloud]

Breeding will let you make stronger mounts. Let's say you breed the same mounts together at animal husbandry level 10, 20, 30, and 40. Each one, despite having the same parents, would be better than the last depending on how you want it to grow. This is an assumption based on explanations i've heard from Steven in interviews. Of course, it'd be silly to keep breeding weaker mounts as you progress, but yeah. You can also find new species by cross breeding, as well.

[white sand]

Also can u tame like every animal u see or what

[sleek cloud]

No news on that, but I doubt it

[placid frost]

Do we know if like rogues and fighter has energy and rage? or all classes have mana?

[sleek cloud]

Most likely only certain mobs with particular body types

Most likely all have mana

That's total speculation

[placid frost]

ye ofc

[sleek cloud]

But it's the most efficient way to handle it

And they're doing so much already, no need to complicate gear progression with extra pools

Especially with gear not being class locked

[placid frost]

ahh true, didn't think about that

[shut fossil]

what did they do in Lineage II as steve often refers to it in interviews?

[sleek cloud]

I wouldn't know, I was playing RoM at the time XD

[white sand]

Anyone played rapplez or its just me

[dusky steeple]

Talking about gear are there different armor types? Like light medium heavy?

[white sand]

Cuz that game had the best pet system up to date even tho it was made in 2006

[sleek cloud]

@white sand Please keep this chat on questions about AoC, you can discuss that in #general-discussion

[white sand]

@dusky steeple i think they call that cloth/plate and leather

[analog swan]

If anyone is wanting new mmo to play, If you want shit mmo to play for line one day wurm online releasing on steam tomorrow don’t know if it’s free or not

[white sand]

Unless u mean something else

[sleek cloud]

@dusky steeple Yes, there will be light, medium, and heavy armor. And each archetype will have a passive skill that makes them better at using one.

[white sand]

And ye my bad

[sleek cloud]

Or so the wiki says

@analog swan Wrong chat for that, friend. Please keep this chat on AoC questions

Did I miss anyone's question?

[white sand]

Are mounts just mounts or are we gonne be able to use them for actual fights

[novel terrace]

Is there a release date for alpha 2 yet?

[magic barn]

hopefully next year

no date yet

[novel terrace]

Alright

Looking forward to it

[echo bramble]

man i hope it will be really early

cant wait

[magic barn]

same :> what pack did you buy

[tough sierra]

In the wiki it says tanks will have 3 different build options: evasion control and shield. Will all primary tanks have these options? Can't really see a guardian (tank/tank) being evasion

[novel terrace]

I was late to Kickstarter so I didn’t get a chance to back but I got the 375 pack from the shop so I can play in alpha 2

[magic barn]

yea same, the interview with asmon caught my attention again. i havent bought a pack yet though, i dont like the current rewards, ill be waiting for the next month

[echo bramble]

i got the 250 pack.. just wanted the shrek pet

[primal solstice]

there is a loot pet ? i mean pet that will loot drops..

[magic barn]

dont think so, there are only cosmetic and combat pets

[ruby swift]

There are no pets that give an advantage for sale. The game does not have personal loot. Please see https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Looting

[white sand]

Only cosmetics

[terse blade]

So i watched interview with Asmongold and one thing caught my attention (well except all the awesome things). When enchanting gear with resistance to one element, will it also implement a vulnerability to opposing element? It would make interesting dynamic on PvP scene.

[lean marlin]

Probably not, but here ya go. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Enchanting

[cobalt turret]

Hi there I was just wondering when this game is going to potentially be in bata as I want to apply for this and stream the game

[full badger]

The short answer is we don't know @cobalt turret

[magic barn]

alpha 1 is coming this fall, alpha 2 hopefully next year

beta some time later

[full badger]

The devs are very careful not to put down dates that they can't deliver on. As Veno said, alpha 1 is coming this year, which means hopefully alpha 2 next year at some point. Beta testing will start once we clear the alpha testing stage.

[ornate gate]

when will the monthly stream happen?

[full badger]

@ornate gate The monthly stream is usually on the last Friday of the month

[ornate gate]

any standard starting time?

[cobalt turret]

If we apply for the alpha 1 and get to test the game is it possible to stream it

[ornate gate]

@cobalt turret yes no nda

[cobalt turret]

MDA?

[magic barn]

alpha 1 is not convered by nda, however its very hard to get your hands on a alpha 1 key now lol

they are not available anymore

[lean marlin]

@cobalt turret Non-Disclosure Agreement.

[ornate gate]

sorry fatfingered, meant NDA

[cobalt turret]

AHH I see

[ornate gate]

everyone who can play the game can stream everything

as soon as alpha 1 starts ofc

[lean marlin]

@ornate gate normally around 3 or 4pm EST, can't remember what that is for pst.

[full badger]

will pets and mounts degrade like most other items? I guess I'm asking: Do they have a life cycle, die at some point and need to be replaced?
@dreamy scaffold The only mounts I know of that have a limited time on them are the flying mounts accessible to mayors and royalty.

[ornate gate]

ok thats like 9 to 10 pm for me

[lean marlin]

#news will have a thing the week beforeish for questions, then another notif the day of.

[rustic verge]

so how are open world dungeons even gonna work? You will just have to wait for the previous group to finish before you can try a boss?

[ornate gate]

no you could just steal the boss

[ruby swift]

Or kill them before they do

[lean marlin]

^

[cobalt turret]

How do I apply for alpha 1

[ornate gate]

you could just flag and kill them all and then finish the boss

[rustic verge]

but there isnt gonna be 1-2 groups competing.. its gonna be 20+ groups competing for the same boss

[ornate gate]

as of now there is no way to do so @cobalt turret

[rustic verge]

and killing seems way unreasonable with the corruption system

[ornate gate]

@rustic verge it could be

[lean marlin]

@cobalt turret You can't buy or sign up for Alpha 1 anymore, only A2-B2, and those are for buying packs off the store.

[ornate gate]

^

[cobalt turret]

I see

[ornate gate]

@rustic verge it could be worth it to kill the players, just imagine you got a group of 8 vs another group of 8 and everyone kills one, so you would not gain too much corruption and you would be able to loot the boss almost for free

[boreal abyss]

if they fight back, you wont gain corruption

[rustic verge]

ye if there are only 2 groups

[ornate gate]

and if the guys fight back, then you would not gain corruption anyway^^

[rustic verge]

if there are more its first a battle royal than a boss

and if you wipe you have to go through it all again

[slow sky]

Please leave this chat for questions feel free to move any other discussion to #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion

[boreal abyss]

we dont know how the dungeons will work yet so all there is speculation at the moment

[rustic verge]

ok..

[boreal abyss]

as in, for all we know, it could be a "Boss room" that stops others from entering when 1 party is inside
we dunno, we have to wait and see

[ornate gate]

@simple ether when will your next stream be? really enjoyed the last one^^

[tough sierra]

Will there be 'attunements' needed for certain instances? Such as completing a certain achievement or quest to go into a dungeon or instance

i.e a quest chain to get a key to an old mansion where the dungeon is

[thorny summit]

@tough sierra most likely not, as dungeons change according to the nodes level. But if there are quest chains for dungeons then its for the 20% instanced dungeons

[tough sierra]

are all mounts dropped from bosses limited

[lament dagger]

and are limited things tradable?

[echo bramble]

will it possible to get items from the cash shop through ingame achievements?

[rigid obsidian]

@echo bramble um you can only get cosmetics from the shop

[echo bramble]

yes but can you get these cosmetics ingame or only in the shop?

[ornate gate]

there will be 0 P2W

[desert ivy]

There's cosmetics you can earn in game

[rigid obsidian]

This jahlon guy really played the alpha.

[echo bramble]

ah so you can play apoc to get your skins for ashes?

thats really cool

[tough sierra]

if you bought an apoc cosmetic does it transfer to AoC?

[desert ivy]

Yes

Every Apoc cosmetic transfers to the MMORPG

[solid sparrow]

Honestly, I wish I had given the BR a chance, I was following the game pretty casually and i thought they just swapped from an mmo to a BR until like 4 months ago lol. Will the Apoc servers go live again any time soon?

[desert ivy]

Not until after alpha 1

[tough sierra]

I think they're gonna have it go live once the other classes are ready to be tried

a gift and a curse to learn about such an interesting project so far from its release

I can only imagine how the people who've been around since '17 or so feel

[ornate ivy]

Quick question about the corruption system: Imagine a low lvl player killing mobs using an AoE. A high level player sees that and wants to obtain a portion of the low lvl player's materials, so he decides to dash into the AoE. Does the low lvl player become flagged as a combatant, so the high lvl player can savely kill the low lvl player without becoming flagged as corrupted? Thanks in advance. 🙂

[rigid obsidian]

Good question

[viral lintel]

cant hit people with your aoe unless you switched that option on

[lament dagger]

I can only imagine how the people who've been around since '17 or so feel
@tough sierra Yeah i only just recently found out about this game. I wish i was here for the Kickstarter, but I'm also glad that I didn't have to wait as many years if i had hehe.

[tough sierra]

That's actually something I wanted to ask about, is there a pvp 'toggle' or is it just target and fire, even if its a player

[ornate ivy]

@viral lintel so you will get to choose if your abilities do PvP damage?

[tough sierra]

aye, umbrella question, how do you avoid accidentally hurting other players

[viral lintel]

yeah, also if you can hit a flagged party member with a group heal etc

[tough sierra]

i'd imagine a healer who heals a combatant becomes a combatant themselves

[ornate ivy]

same

[viral lintel]

yeah, but they cant do that by accident

so you cant be tricked into getting flagged

[tough sierra]

in the games ive played you cant heal a pvp player unless you toggle pvp yourself

and group healing fails on them if theyre toggled and you're not

[urban orchid]

Hey folks, does anyone know when pre-order purchases will become available again on aocreation.com?

[grim breach]

You cannot get damaged by someone else's AOE if they're not flagged.

[swift wedge]

Can I play apoc right now?

[ornate ivy]

apocalypse? I think they have taken down the servers if i'm not mistaken @swift wedge

[brave swift]

No, apoc is not available right now.

[swift wedge]

thanks, does it come back up or no?

[brave swift]

It comes back after the next alpha

[swift wedge]

I'll keep an eye out, thanks

[urban orchid]

@simple ether Ok cool, thanks Jahlon. I'll keep an eye on it then

[karmic wave]

Is the combat system, skills, other features in apocalypse any indicator of what will make it into the MMO, or is everything completely separate?

[vapid loom]

Wait so preorder packs may come back up for sale?

[rigid gate]

Hey just wanted to ask if different races gain racial traits/abilities for combat , profession and other rp elements.

[karmic wave]

There will be racial skills and differences in stats, but we don't know the details afaik

[tulip hatch]

^ racial augments as well but the race wont affect professions

[rigid gate]

Okidoke thanks. Do racials effect animations / particle effects too?

[tulip hatch]

some augments do affect animations and how overall skills look so its possible that some of the racial augments will as well

[rigid gate]

Awesome

[echo bramble]

Wait so preorder packs may come back up for sale?
@vapid loom you can order them here https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop?IntrepidSession=1594888487022.1667

[analog glen]

can you pick the same class your primary class is as your secondary class aswell, and if yes what does that do?

[lament dagger]

@analog glen Yes.

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes

[ruby swift]

It enhances your primary

[rocky bear]

those are supposed to be the most powerful classes but with less variety

[analog glen]

cool, ty

[vapid loom]

@echo bramble yeah I know that it just seemed from the conversation they were talking about previous ones

[stable plover]

Specifically, the sale of A1 keys might return, depending on how testing goes

[faint fjord]

wtb Shaman info

all primary classes at A1?

nice nice

[tough sierra]

There's a shaman?

[faint fjord]

with cleric primary and summoner secundary

[echo bramble]

shadow lord sounds badass

[flat scaffold]

Q: i am corrupted can i give my friend who is non combatant all my items ?

[tough sierra]

ah, thought sham was a archetype

it seems very plausable that a guild of PKers could have non-PK alts that just kill the corruption off of each other and hand the gear back

[faint fjord]

A1 test will give answers

[flat scaffold]

( even better a family member who can teleport to him)

[faint fjord]

maybe they make it so corrupted can't trade lol

[tough sierra]

that still makes my idea plausable

[unborn olive]

Can your friends pick up your items if they drop from corruption?

[ruby swift]

The game considers corrupted individual to be monsters. Still to be determined if that means no trading or healing from others.

[unborn olive]

Ooh no healing option... pariah 2.0

[tough sierra]

can a corrupted player kill others who are corrupt to work off their own corruption

[unborn olive]

two wrongs don't make a right

[tough sierra]

how is killing a corrupted player wrong

that'd just be a bad person doing a good thing

[unborn olive]

it's still killing for selfish gain

[tough sierra]

who's to say theyre not doing it to kill other corrupted

id argue the dragons we kill for loot find us pretty corrupt

[unborn olive]

you know a game is good, when players get to debate the metaphysical consequences

dragons have it coming. have you seen excalibur?

[tough sierra]

Not really trying to debate, I just think a bad person killing another bad person would make sense in regards to making them less bad

[unborn olive]

wait, wrong movie. dragonslayer

it's an interesting idea to remove corruption by removing the corrupted

but I think it would be best served just to have no corruption consequence for them killing one another

[tough sierra]

will corrupt players be able to ally with each other?

aka PK guilds

[faint fjord]

good questions for the next stream, they take the questions live on twitch or some CM takes them?

[tough sierra]

when are the streams?

[faint fjord]

monthly at the end of the month it seems

your questions are good

[tough sierra]

is that is just general or

cheers, either way

im a RPer and PVPer so pretty much everything affects me

[kind cloud]

is Highsword the eqvivalent of a ret pala from wow, or a self sustained fighter?

[stable plover]

@tough sierra The Streams are usually the last Friday of the month and officially announced about a week beforehand with a Q&A thread going up on the forums that closes about 24 hours beforehand. Occasionally the date can shift to a Thursday or something depending on Intrepid's schedule.

[kind cloud]

😦

[tough sierra]

Templar seems to be the ret paladin equivalent

[austere vault]

I got a question in regard to lumberjacking. Are there trees that give you different levels of timber? Like for example, to build smaller ships, you'd need lower level timber while larger ships require a higher level of timber?

[tough sierra]

are there different qualities of the same material? i.e a higher grade iron making an iron chestplate have a higher defense score then one made with lower grade iron

[kind cloud]

will there be enchanting or runecrafting as a proffesion?

[tough sierra]

they mentioned being able to enchant gear with certain elements

[halcyon vine]

That enchant depends on what your "sub-class" is I believe

[tough sierra]

do rogues get poisons?

[lean marlin]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Enchanting

[halcyon vine]

^

[frail solar]

How is the type of each node determined and how do we know what type each node is?

[full badger]

That enchant depends on what your "sub-class" is I believe
@halcyon vine Where are you getting that piece of information from?

[stable plover]

@tough sierra I don't think there's info on poison

[full badger]

How is the type of each node determined and how do we know what type each node is?
@frail solar node types are pre-determined when the servers launch. You'll know what kind of node it is by the type of NPCs that appear as it develops

[stable plover]

NPCs of the nodes type will appear when the node first populates to level 1 like 'scholars' or 'merchants'

[frail solar]

So at lv 0 there is no way of knowing?

[lean marlin]

correct

[frail solar]

Oh ok. Will these types be the same on all servers or will they be randomized to make each server unique?

[full badger]

They will be the same across all servers

[fair yew]

Each server will be unique though by how the players level different nodes in different places

[lean marlin]

However, the development of them might be different. One might have a level 5 science node, the other only a 3 in that area.

[frail solar]

Ok. Thanks!

[tough sierra]

oh, i thought the players got to decide the node type

or the mayor did

[halcyon vine]

@full badger Thought the question was regarding enchanting abilities, not weapons/armor. Which is where my bit came from

[neon ravine]

so is the 8x ability for classes, or for class/subclass combos? For example is it 8 Tanks getting together, or 8 Tank/Tanks?

[halcyon vine]

So enchanting an ability with mage/fire arch type for example

[fair yew]

Mutantgun I think you mean augment. Not enchant for abilities from subclass

[cedar sequoia]

i from asia i can play sever NA or only sever SEA?

[halcyon vine]

That's the word yes ^

[fair yew]

Solo you can play on NA but may have high ping

[tough sierra]

in a game as packed as this is gonna be with player count and high res models, good luck playing across seas

[cedar sequoia]

ty

[stable plover]

@neon ravine Seems like that mainly counts primary archetype, but we don't have fine details.

[cedar sequoia]

so they already 10000 people for alpha 1 or still chance to join alpha 1?

[fair yew]

It is possible to have a party of 8 of the same class but we will have to see if it’s viable at all

Already have 10k for alpha 1

[lean marlin]

@cedar sequoia A1 is not buyable anymore.

[neon ravine]

I was talking more about the special 8x ability, not running content with 8 of the same class

[crystal beacon]

The game looks amazing. The only Problem I see is 80% of dungeons not being instanced.
If multiple groups want to do that dungeon then they'll always have to fight over it? So it's more like a race than exploration? Could groups help each other and make the dungeons too easy?

[cedar sequoia]

wow

[neon ravine]

@crystal beacon this is a feature

[stable plover]

@neon ravine https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner#Siege_summons

[neon ravine]

try Project 1999 Everquest and check it out

It's a social melting pot in large dungeons with many camp spots

you meet people, you like them or don't, you interact, ???, profit

[storm raptor]

i really doubt group of players will help each other in a dungeon

[neon ravine]

You obv haven't played EQ

[fair yew]

I think the 8x ability is limited to summoners no?

[lavish kernel]

When you master Crafting professions is it only armour smithing or all of it?

[brave swift]

What's the "8x ability" you are talking about?

[icy sail]

are EU servers gonna be manged by some scetchy publisher or Interpid will take care of those by themselves?

[slate fox]

by 8x ability he means the seige summon for summoners (it takers 8 people in one group to pull it off)

[fair yew]

Or I guess the only example given so far has been summoners

[worthy vapor]

What is Blacksmithing truly? As many other MMOs use that title for weapons, armor and equipment.

[surreal void]

It's for tools

[fair yew]

Eu is handled by my.com for now

[surreal void]

They have armorsmithing and weaponsmithing for the rest

[neon ravine]

I heard VPNs exist

[ruby swift]

You dont need one for Ashes

No region locking

[digital yacht]

It’s not region locked u don’t need a vpn

[neon ravine]

You might

depends on if countries block the game for letting people play cards together

[fair yew]

Using a vpn for ashes will just give you higher ping lol

[stable plover]

@fair yew The 8x ability has been mentioned as something they'd like for all primary archetypes but is on the list of may not happen, the tank one was mentioned as summoning a really giant wall.

[slate fox]

I just hope BRs arn't aloud to play

they ruin everything

[fair yew]

Thanks greypelt

[ruby swift]

Big Robots? Yeah, hate those guys.

[neon ravine]

@stable plover it'd be cool for all classes, but I understand if it's limited

[digital yacht]

Would be very hard to pull off

[neon ravine]

I mean, in WoW only Warlocks got an altar of sacrifice

[tough sierra]

id say WoW is the worst mmo to compare this game to

much closer to Archeage or BDO

Guild Wars, etc

[neon ravine]

WoW used to be an MMO

[slate fox]

BDO is trash please don't compare this to that its so cringe

[neon ravine]

now it's Lobby of Warcraft

[tough sierra]

Famalus im gonna mark that down as an opinion friend

[surreal void]

Wait so what is an 8x ability? Is that just another term for a class ultimate or?

[stable plover]

WoW comparisons can be useful for MMO players who have only/mainly played WoW especially -> but longform comparisons need to go to a discussion channel

[slate fox]

100% opinion

[cold ginkgo]

8 people summoning a golem for sieges