i got a real question, what class is everyone thinking of trying first
#questions
tough sierra
slow sky
Rogue/Mage(Nightspell)
strange socket
fighter or tank, need to be able to cap castles easier
slow sky
I wanna teleport backstab kidneys from stealth
strange socket
that would be like rogue/mage probably
opaque pivot
@slow sky wasted tp if you're in stealth 😛
slow sky
Look up at what class i said i wanna play
strange socket
the mage augment would likely give an ability the bonus of being able to teleport to your target
slow sky
@opaque pivot it’d most likely be a teleport augment on the backstab skill so not really a waste if it always teleports
strange socket
yea you could like, Go invis, hit 1 target and TP to the next with backstab further away
opaque pivot
@slow sky probably right
strange socket
maybe freeze/silencer the healer and tp to the dps or something
opaque pivot
but then again, if you could go invis to target putting a tele augment on backstab would be a waste
maybe on sth like a kick which interrupts spells
strange socket
depends on CDs, add'l damage from stealth, etc
tough sierra
Is it so much to ask to be able to teleport and tank at the same time
hollow drift
Might be a bit of odd question, but will there be support for mod/plugins/addons like UI in-game related or the ability to use Steam overlay etc
strange socket
no mobstar
hollow drift
quick answer xD
opaque pivot
oh, that's actually nice
full nebula
currently they have a pretty strict anti addon policy @hollow drift
vestal sable
@tough sierra no it's not because for sure one tank+tank will tank much more than one thank+mage don't u think?
plucky pawn
@limber sundial I heard 🐢 s were @tight gale 's favorite animal 😉
opaque pivot
ahah a dev one should be lol, I'd implement my GF as Endboss lol
dry thunder
my favorite animal is my dog
plucky pawn
but let's remember to keep this channel open for questions from folks, and bring our discussions on down to the other channels!
vapid loom
I knew the Terrapin from this month had some special about it 😉
hollow drift
@full nebula is there a reason for that? or is it just a not now and on launch but maybe in the future thing?
full badger
@full nebula is there a reason for that? or is it just a not now and on launch but maybe in the future thing?
@hollow drift Steven is very much against addons, and he's the boss
Simple as that really
slow sky
They don’t want to open the doorway for elitists ti make toxic addons like dps meters etc
opaque pivot
then let me ask this question can you put any augment of your 2ndary archetype on any spell?
I'd imagine putting teleport augment on a single target cc with a long duration would be rlly weird to play against
hollow drift
I can fully understand that 🙂 was thinking more of postal addons and UI tweaks
full badger
@opaque pivot We don't know.
slow sky
Yeah while helpful those would be it opens the system to be abused by people to just announce boss mechanics etc which they dont want
full badger
I can fully understand that 🙂 was thinking more of postal addons and UI tweaks
@hollow drift The UI is going to be modular and customisable
tough sierra
Agreed, for someone that uses the auction house a lot in other games dealing with the 100s of mail gets annoying when not automated
full badger
At the end of the day the reason doesn't really matter. Steven doesn't want addons and it's his game
hollow drift
Would it be something like lets say RS3 has now?
@tough sierra indeed thata struggle without addons etc
strange socket
The reason for no addons is because he doesn't like the fact that they turn into requirements to be competitive and he thinks they take away from the exploration of the game.
UI is expected to be customizable though
hollow drift
Yeah not talking at all about addons that change the competitive scene, just farming and playing trading and ui
i can understand that statement
digital yacht
No extra addons whatsoever it’s not up for discussion
strange socket
We're not discussing adding them, just answering his questions
tough sierra
I will also say roleplaying without addons is next to impossible
proud parcel
I just want alpha 1 access 😂
strange socket
yea it sucks knowing i cant play for like a year at least
opaque pivot
@tough sierra RP is possible without addons, what would you need addons for in RP? just ask the person what you wanna know 😛 (to answer your concern)
hollow drift
@simple ether that clears up some of my concerns 🙂
sturdy topaz
I think addons would lead to the hyper optimization that exists in a lot of other mmos. Would over time create a harsh meta
strange socket
Exactly
tough sierra
Well, in WoW roleplay just about everyone has an addons that let's you write your preferences, character appearances, backstory, comforts, etc
stable plover
@tough sierra They do intend to have built in fillable character backstory stuff
tough sierra
Beast
tough sierra
I hope theres atleast some sort of solo dps meter
Idc about everyone else, but dps meters help me improve
digital yacht
Nope
strange socket
nah too easy to manipulate
trial and error is where you learn and improve
The way it should be
digital yacht
Just time yourself
strange socket
or check your HP after mob death
opaque pivot
imaging hitting max lvl going for a raid and instantly getting asked "how much dps"
tough sierra
How do you know if your rotation is off without seeing the numbers
slow sky
You can be your own dps meter, pull out that stop watch and log your damage
sturdy topaz
And then you find the class that does the most dps and you stack them and everyone else sees what they are saying and boom everyone plays only that or gets excluded
tough sierra
No matter what system is put in place people are still gonna find the meta
Even without meters and logs
slow sky
Meta is fine, people harassing others for being low on a meter is not
digital yacht
Metas should and WILL be found naturally so there’s that 😂
sturdy topaz
Yes but it's not about not finding the meta it's about people not getting excluded just because they don't play the meta
digital yacht
@slow sky one of the main reasons Steven doesn’t want it
tough sierra
Once the meta is known people will exclude regardless
opaque pivot
100% 5 mages 1 cleric 1 tank and 1 bard for buffing mages
tidal stirrup
Quick question, did I see correctly that there might be playtests for alpha 1 backers before the main Alpha 1 starts later this year?
digital yacht
@tidal stirrup not necessarily they are doing rolling invites
LoM jsut got emailed today
tidal stirrup
Thanks, I had totally forgotten that I had alpha 1 access until I checked my account again after all the recent hype
digital yacht
Pi has been doing tests for the past few months
queen snow
Do we know if Naval Combat/Content will be available in A1?
potent thunderBOT
worthy smelt
Just to double check. There is no way to currently gain access to Alpha 1 anymore, correct?
digital yacht
Not unless u bought into the kickstart
Bought a Kickstarter package*
Which u can upgrade to alpha 1
worthy smelt
Sadly, not. Didn't find about the game until this week 😦
worthy smelt
Ah well hopefully that happens! I'll buy into Alpha 2 in the meanwhile.
digital yacht
If you do and alpha one opens back up u will be able to upgrade s well
worthy smelt
Oh no way. I'll add that to my list of prayers before bed every night haha
opaque pivot
Do we alrdy have a Date when all types of augments you can choose from will be known?
digital yacht
@opaque pivot no u will see that in alpha 2
opaque pivot
@digital yacht k, ty
dry thunder
Will mounts look smaller for dwarfs than humans?
opaque pivot
I heard there will be specific mounts for each race but i dont know if it's fake news
ancient osprey
How can my buddy add my referral code to his account. He created an account because I was talking about the recent Q&As not realizing there was a referral program.
digital yacht
@ancient osprey he will have to make a new acc
it can only be appleid in the creation process
ancient osprey
That seems a bit odd...
OK so how does he delete his account so he can use his email to sign up again lol
digital yacht
just signup with a new email
torpid tangle
stable plover
@ancient osprey Need to fill out a CS ticket to delete accounts currently I think
ancient osprey
The only reason he signed up is because of me lol, so yes, I referred him
sturdy topaz
How do the referal codes work?
desert ivy
You get someone to use your link when they make their account
digital yacht
@sturdy topaz https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program
sturdy topaz
ty
desert ivy
Ashes referral program is actually nutty tbh
woven vale
Very generous
full nebula
Will the stats on gear be static, randomised or a mix of both? (not talking about value ranges but actual stat types)
Would be nice if the differentiation between items wouldnt be just straightforward and also gives more room for marginal item upgrades
ancient osprey
@stable plover How does one simply create a CS ticket. I'm looking on the website and see support, but nothing I can request and or send in
digital yacht
tyes
sturdy topaz
ohhh
digital yacht
@sturdy topaz one already has a concept https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tidesnapper
@dreamy scaffold stuff about breeding https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry
ancient osprey
Thanks
rustic verge
What happens when a low level player enters a higher level node? will he still be able to quest or be forced to go out to lower level zones
full nebula
@digital yacht saw the page earlier and double checked it now again to make sure i didnt miss anything, but that doesnt really answer the base question but thank you anyways 👍
digital yacht
nodes have a wide range of levels surrounding them a level 5 node wont have only level 40+ mobs @rustic verge
@full nebula if it aint on the wiki it hasnt been stated so its TBD
rustic verge
but if a node is level 1 then everything is low level, if its level 5 then it must have much lower rate of monsters / quests, and there hasn't been plans to include scaling as far as I know
lower rate of lower level mobs that is
digital yacht
We don’t have a strictly level 25 zone. Instead, that zone might have some level 10 creatures near the road, some level 20 creatures deep in the forest, and some level 30 creatures up the mountain. These ratios will change based on the Nodes that inform them, becoming generally more dangerous as the Node grows. All this civilization attracts the attention of Things-That-Should-Not-Be. This does not mean that wilderness areas are safe, by any means. Some may be safe-er, but all will have dangers that even the most experienced traveler needs to watch out for.[7] – Steven Sharif
U will still be able to quest just have to find the right level quests
rustic verge
Yeah but I will have a lesser experience trying to navigate mobs that can one shot me :p
opaque pivot
@rustic verge you could go to a lvl 3 node near that lvl 5 node 🙂
rustic verge
And if lets say there are 100 level 10 quests at node level 1 there will probably be much lower from 10-30 level 10 quests which will be bad if there a lot of new people
yeah but I though the point of levels was to make higher level players come back to the starting ones
node levels*
opaque pivot
You're right, as far as I understood, it'll be like this: There'll still be enemys relative to your level. It's just that there will also be higher lvl enemys around, so one should be careful on how he moves around. In addition i imagine there's still the concept of aggro range :p .
maybe the higher lvl player will have to move through the low lvl zone or sth like dat since there r few flying mounts or sth like dat
rustic verge
The thing is if a mob is much higher level than you, its aggro range will be bigger
I mean its not a huge problem
will probably be fun at points to be a beginner
just that if there are a ton of beginners at high level zones there could be quest/mob scarcity
opaque pivot
could be. good question tho, interests me as well, does any1 know?
I mean there's always a workaround, but how exactly will it look like ?
hollow hill
when is beta 2?
full nebula
@hollow hill nobody knows yet, will still be a long way until then
rustic verge
just alpha 1 will be fall 2020 so at least 2021 lol
hollow hill
rip alright. I bought the pack thing and was just curious. I guess ill grind BDO for now while i wait
rustic verge
how many people in a guild max?
strange socket
300
at max guild level
actually
It changes based on your guild progressing. So the high member count you have the less skill options are available
Creating the need for alliances
That's actually pretty baller
rare apex
Those 4 node types they mentioned do you have to chose one of four or is it paths you have level up?
ruby swift
The nodes are preset
rustic verge
wait so lets say I had tons of allies (1000+ like a streamer would) can they just go to the furthest away node and level it up just to screw with people
?
stable plover
@rustic verge yeah, no problem at all, it won't hurt other players to have a far away high level node (at least to begin with)
rare apex
@ruby swift So you can't have a bounty hunters system if you other than a military node type for instance?
ruby swift
They all start at 0. Once they pop to level 1 there are indicators of the node type. If the node is blasted back to 0, its type stays the same if built up again.
rustic verge
except it will take you hours to go in a caravan wont it
ruby swift
Currently BH is through military nodes, but like so many things, may change based on testing and feedback
rustic verge
btw is there actually a reward for going to be a corrupted player or is it just negatives for killing
strange socket
Freedom to farm in your spot until someone else tries to kill you
digital yacht
Like resources and mats
unreal zealot
honestly would be cool for the bountys to originate in a military node but can be spread to other nodes billboards for a reduced reward or somthing?
stable plover
@rustic verge There are theoretically bonuses for traveling further with caravans, so that's not necessarily a problem
cursive bay
During combat do non combatants take reduced dmg?
digital yacht
No
strange socket
no its based on corruption points only
ruby swift
Player corruption is meant to be all stick and no carrot. If you are upset about the penalties. Working as intended.
rustic verge
is there a reward for the curropted person
strange socket
so if youre too corrupt your pvp skills dimish
rustic verge
like 10% xp or something
strange socket
no
digital yacht
No u get resources and mats from players u kill
desert ivy
You're not supposed to be rewarded in any way for corruption really
rustic verge
so it just seems like killing people to go away from your farming spot will hurt you in the long run o_0
strange socket
maybe
desert ivy
It's not your farming spot tho 
strange socket
Depends on what support you have with you
cursive bay
Have they given any percentages on how much you drop?
strange socket
It is if you kill everyone else
digital yacht
No
ruby swift
No rewards for corruption beyond the limited resources you can possibly get and the satisfaction of teabagging people. You have to weigh the time sink and other possible losses vs that.
stable plover
@rustic verge Corruption isn't meant to be 'rewarding' -> corrupt players get, a portion of raw gatherable materials from their victims, some rewards for killing bounty hunters chasing them, some corrupt only quests, and special corrupt only graveyards extra far apart that you don't necessarily go to the closest one.
rustic verge
@desert ivy up for debate 😠
digital yacht
@cursive bay needs to be tested
rustic verge
@stable plover sounds like a nice reward to me
Kill bunch of people for their stuff -> save stuff in bank -> go die by bounty hunter and have it reset
repeat
viscid cypress
how many jobs can you have in aoc ? i know you can only master 1 but you can still learn others right ? to a certain lvl
stable plover
@rustic verge for things like getting gatherable materials, you'd probably have an easier time participating in the 'approved' pvp though
desert ivy
If you die you lose 300-400% negative xp tho while corrupted
and while corrupted if you die you have a chance to drop gear
digital yacht
@rustic verge how u getting to ur bank when guards will attack u on site
desert ivy
so not exactly something you want
rustic verge
@digital yacht who said that?
desert ivy
It's how it works
digital yacht
That’s how npc guards work
desert ivy
You cant go to nodes because guards attack you on sight
rustic verge
then like @strange socket said just trade it to a friend
or drop it for him to pickup
digital yacht
Ok u still take the negative xp
strange socket
yea, you still lose a lot fo xp when you die so you're best trying to farm it off
rustic verge
if youre max level can you lose levels?
desert ivy
You never lose levels
digital yacht
U don’t lose level
desert ivy
but you lose stats
unreal zealot
well its an xp debt isnt it?
rustic verge
then do it at max levels lol
strange socket
It's probably not going to be that bad if you keep your PK count low
digital yacht
U just lose the stats from those level
digital yacht
Lol this guy
strange socket
There will be a way to bring down your PK counter
desert ivy
which means while you may visibly be level 50
you'll have the stats of a level 49
then 48, 47, 46
etc
desert ivy
Depending on how corrupted you become
Theoretically if you get corrupted enough, you could be killed by a level 1
strange socket
I hope its not too punishing
cursive bay
Would their ever be an instance were a mage does a large aoe attack and accidentally kills someone outside of their party
strange socket
Perma reds are so much fun
rustic verge
@cursive bay yeh
stable plover
@cursive bay You can toggle if you want to do random AoE to non-combatants or not (off by default)
rustic verge
imagine accidently killing a bunch of lower level players in a high level node because you were trying to kill mobs
low level players can also just jump in aoe of high levels to grief
tidal stirrup
Interesting, I was wondering about sneaking up to someone and getting yourself tagged on their attacks to be able to kill them without penalty
desert ivy
Again, every "loop hole" of the corruption system you think of has already been discussed 100 times already
strange socket
i doubt every, people are creative 🙂
desert ivy
Exactly, and people have been theory crafting about it for 3 years
rustic verge
where? I watched interview and lazypeon's video and havnt seen it.. not everybody has been in a community for 3 years
this is the questions tab 🙂
desert ivy
The game didn't just come into existence when Lazypeon made the youtube video
rustic verge
youre missing the point
digital yacht
Yes not the theory crafting tab but u continued to do that
rustic verge
if it was common question like "what is nodes" sure
but it just specific details about a system
ruby swift
Ask questions here, accept the answers, take theorycrafting and REEE to regular channels.
cursive bay
I mean this server has gained 3000 members in the past day so
viscid cypress
how many professions can you have ? except the one you wanna master
digital yacht
U can do them all
viscid cypress
oh really damn
ruby swift
Profession count has not been finalized. Ones confirmed are on the wiki. Can get you a link if needed.
digital yacht
Just can only master the one
viscid cypress
ye i already looked it up thought maybe you know more than me
ruby swift
You can master a single artisan "tree branch" of gathering, processing, or crafting and all the professions under that branch.
viscid cypress
ohhh so if you have 3 chars you could master everything ?
cursive bay
@ruby swift are there any pictures of the trees
ruby swift
Yep, but would spend a whole mess of time doing it.
viscid cypress
ye ofc just theoretical
digital yacht
No @cursive bay
ruby swift
I don't believe they have bothered to make visual aids yet, since the system has not been finalized for what goes where and everything in it.
digital yacht
Everything will be barebones for awhile is my guess
viscid cypress
so if your city/village gets raided you just lose everything ?
viscid cypress
ohhh thats good to know
i mean a bit risk and reward is nice but if you lose everything OOF, imagine coming home and everything is gone.
shy ermine
@simple ether Wait, I thought it was just a portion of your gatherables and craftables, is it all that you have stored in the warehouse?
tidal stirrup
Some is looted and the rest is destroyed
shy ermine
Ohh snap gotcha thanks, that's cool! Creates a sink for resources too
viscid cypress
how does the loot get distributed to the attackers ? just who is first ?
strange socket
most dmg
urban gulch
i heard leader of men are getting in soon, like super soon. if i drop the 500 to upgrade my KS will i get into that and how soon will that be
cursive bay
The node gets reduced back to zero after a seige correct?
tidal stirrup
I thought they just got knocked down by one rank?
viscid cypress
wait in the interview he said, they can get destroyed but not always
guess thats outdated
fluid jetty
So now that the wiki confirms there will be "boobie sliders" will there also be butt sliders. asking for my friend dalton.
viscid cypress
my only fear is that it gets super snowbally like 1 big guild just gets bigger and bigger and no one can stop them and they own the whole server, kinda like WoW horde and alliance
maybe if they have subguilds ?
strange socket
Also, castle sieges have player limits
cursive bay
Yeah i hope it turns into an eve style game where coalitions form and section off the map
strange socket
so you can take their castles if your 250 are better than their 250
depending on how outside interactions are going to work
viscid cypress
also the problem i saw in gw2 was if you have big groups fighting aoe and ranged is way better than melee/singletarget
strange socket
Also depends on if multiple castle sieges happen simutaneously
That was a big problem in L2 as well
strange cloak
is there a roadmap of when alpha will transition to beta? im looking into buying the 75$ pass but id rather know a time frame before spending that.
desert ivy
No, because they don't know exactly when alpha will go to beta. Plus they don't want to set dates that won't be met
So unless they're certain they can meet the dates, they don't want to set them
unique path
Are there any plans to limit ships to nodes that form as port-towns? Would seem kinda silly if you can just yeet your boat from anywhere on the map. Would definitely prefer ships to only launch/dock from port nodes
strange cloak
makes sense in the long run.
cloud nymph
when it comes to "Node Advancement" where it says "few hours", "Many hours", "few days" etc. Does this mean from you start gathering experience or how long it take to advance when you hit the max cap? might be a stupid question but
slow sky
when you start gathering exp i would assume
ashen orchid
@unique path It has been said that ships can only be summoned in Ports. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ships
crystal beacon
It's an approximation, I believe.
stable plover
@unique path Ships can only be launched from land, (not the water), land caravans go through a conversion animation that takes some time to become naval caravans and visa versa. Destroyed ships have to be repaired before being relaunchable.
rustic verge
Is the node and castle sieges instanced?
slow sky
they are open world from what i've seen answered before
stable plover
@rustic verge No -> As long as things go well at least
crystal beacon
Randomly walking into a castle siege is going to be an experience
rustic verge
They said 250VS250 right?
untold schooner
@rustic verge CS is not instanced but ya cant participate in it anytime ya want, you have to be selected
rustic verge
if its not instanced it would be much higher wont it
slow sky
250 v 250 comfortably they want to see if they can do 500 v 500 but that may not happen
rustic verge
mhm
untold schooner
@crystal beacon cant randomly walk in a CS
unique path
thanks, just wanted to confirm port-towns or some form of port nodes, though the wiki states they can be summoned in a river/water depending on depth
untold schooner
it will prevent you from entering
rustic verge
how do you get selected for attack? I know if you are in the guild/ally you automatically defend
unique path
but I get what you mean about from land, you obviously can't whip up a ship in the middle of nowhere in an ocean
strange socket
Maybe based on who signs up first to attack
IE first attacking guild/ally gets priority
ashen orchid
@unique path Technically says "may be able to be" as that was a we aren't sure kind of thing. And it may be limited to which ships you can deploy in that method.
untold schooner
there is a period of the final count of members participating in a siege
stable plover
@rustic verge The way they want to cull excess information, it shouldn't really make much of a difference if they 'did' instance it -> aka they just wouldn't load models/share server data of players outside the area where the siege is taking place
ruby swift
Ships may be able to be summoned in rivers (or other bodies of water) depending on the depth of the water.[18]
unique path
ty ty. Going to focus on ship building a lot in alpha 2.
untold schooner
who knows
rustic verge
ok last question
untold schooner
why is it yur last
rustic verge
is there an idea of what will be included in alpha 1?
untold schooner
i want more
stable plover
@rustic verge The 250v250 isn't 250v250+spectators -> that's they'd do something to lock people out of the area if they need to cap the participants -> They do have a special spectator mode being looked into though
rustic verge
like the node system/crafting ect
untold schooner
dont know the answer
worn elk
Will a non combative pet system be in? And if so can we get some cephalopod representation?
untold schooner
next
ruby swift
They have mentioned what they would like to see. But what is seen may not match that.
slow sky
@rustic verge base 8 primary classes and roughly 20% of the world
ruby swift
@worn elk There are cosmetic pets
rustic verge
oh mama my ass is ready
ruby swift
And squids
rustic verge
will the level cap be high enough for subclasses?
slow sky
subclasses will not be in A1
ruby swift
What Risen said.
untold schooner
i dont think subclasses level
worn elk
Sweet money on preorder worth it
rustic verge
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
just kidding
will have to wait more for Solo Leveling cosplay
slow sky
if anything expect Subclasses to first make it's appearance in A2
untold schooner
i dont know when you will choose a subclass after choosing a primary one.... you might have to level your primary a bit before choosing a subclass ... but we dont have info on it
slow sky
you will choose a subclass at level 25
untold schooner
i dont know
acoustic elk
Yea I saw that in the wiki
untold schooner
ok then
again i dont think ya can level yur subclass on a separate leveling table
slow sky
It won't be
rustic verge
last last question? are the classes type (tank/dps/healer or buff) decided yet? cant see it on wiki
untold schooner
ya mean theory crafting
rustic verge
what?
untold schooner
like which combination of builds are better suited for dps/tank or heal
rustic verge
no no
stable plover
@rustic verge Main Archetype clerics are the only healers (they could also dps), Tanks are tanks, Bards are especially supportive, Summoners are more 'flexible' than most
rustic verge
I mean which are which
untold schooner
if ya go on primary classes on the wiki , you will know
rustic verge
still not listed there
ashen orchid
Yea your Primary determines your role.
rustic verge
as in, Tank is obviously a tank but can warrior spec into tanking as well as dpsing
that sort of deal
stable plover
@rustic verge So all of the tank/x classes tank, just in different ways
untold schooner
@rustic verge maybe a fighter / tank
rustic verge
yeh thats what I wanted to know @stable plover
river sierra
junior pagoda
probably more off-tank, short-duration tanking
rustic verge
I guess will just have to see if the different augments from secondary really change your tanking style
and healing style
stable plover
x/tank classes are more survivable than their x counterparts, but don't gain things like taunt skills <- speculation is involved in this post
rustic verge
ye
I might have not worded myself currectly
Lets say a healer, you can be focused on Healing Over Time abilites and another type on straight heals. Does it mean a cleric with mage as secondary is straight heals while cleric with bard is heals over time
a tank could be focused on mitigating damage or more on self healing
untold schooner
if you choose a guardian = tank/tank ..then you will be the ultimate tank but might lack in other areas
rustic verge
that sort of deal
digital yacht
thats all theory craft potentail no1 knwos teh full spectrum
rustic verge
ok
stable plover
Theoretically the cleric/x line gets into different types of healing, but we don't know which classes are which healing styles
digital yacht
any1 questions regarding secondary archetypes cannot be answered with truth only speculation as we have not seen any of that
unborn trout
any way to upgrade the Kickstarter one package?
plucky pawn
@unborn trout Yup, if you log into the Intrepid site and you've entered your Kickstarter key, you'll be able to see the package upgrades in your Shop!
weak sand
Anyone can just buy the preorder packs though right?
stable plover
@weak sand Anyone can buy the current pre-order packs, they come with different stuff than the KS did though, for example none of the current packs include Alpha 1 keys
proper heron
Wonder if there will be any DoT focused class combos
weak sand
Yea, just had to really make sure that you didn't have some other prerequisite to buy them
rocky bear
until when the alpha 2 packs will be available?
hasty moss
@rocky bear they announced beforehand they were closing alpha 1 so if they plan to close alpha 2 buy in i would assume we would be notified before as well
rocky bear
ok that was what i worried of ;P cause i dont have the money right know and it doesnt matter if i buy the pack now or in some months right? Obviusly with the packs available
dreamy trail
Questions: is there something in place to prevent combat logging or penalize it?
Say a corrupt person looks to be by themselves and a solo/small group of bounty hunters goes to kill him, what's stopping the person from telling his friends to sudden log on and gank them?
fair yew
if they kill any of the people that killed the corrupt person they would get corruption
rocky bear
if they are close nothing, but thats realistic and part of the game, they can be a guild of pks and kill peaople and bounty hunters all the time, you can do that but it has risk
crystal beacon
@dreamy trail I don't think there is anything in place besides the effort to set up such a scenario and the increasing corrupt penalty for everyone involved.
rocky bear
but probbably if you see people of that kind of guilds you are probabbly going to kill them
fair yew
stable plover
Corrupt players don't become more corrupt for killing bounty hunters.
fair yew
but friends (who aren't corrupted) who kill bounty hunters do get corruption
slow sky
uhhh dont think thats how that works considering bounty hunters are flagged combatants
stable plover
Bounty hunters are automatically 'combatants' when they're in bounty hunting mode, so no-one gets corruption for killing them.
left stirrup
Will there be any other way to pay for the game? Since I don't think I can do subscription-based payments
crystal beacon
in that case, the only thing I can think of is the fact that the gankers don't really have much to gain besides making a funny youtube video.
stable plover
@left stirrup You could get enough referrals -> There aren't any like Pay by the hour if you play on an Asian server business models announced or anything though
left stirrup
How would the referrals work?
stable plover
You get 15% of whatever $ they spend credited to your account, that can be used for gametime/cosmetics/cash once the game releases.
fair yew
thats right forgot about it putting them in combatant status
ripe axle
Access to Beta Two is on 2020 ?
stable plover
Alpha 2 isn't even in 2020 -> only Alpha 1 is coming out in Fall
ripe axle
ok thanks!!
proper heron
With the packs, the sub time that comes along with it, Is that sub time after the official release i assume?
stable plover
Correct, sub time doesn't run during alpha/beta testing
proper heron
Ty
magic harness
Is there going to be an in-game option to turn default player appearances on to turn off cosmetics? Rewatched the Asmon interview and during the talk of the 250 vs 250 sieges he said there were things to help any fps and lag related things and one thing he said that there was "default player appearances" to help the client but not sure if that was a siege only thing that happens or an actual in-game option we can toggle
strange socket
Yes
ruby swift
@dreamy trail Confirmed long ago that combat logging will not be a thing. Your "body" will persist in the game world for a time after logout. So only logout somewhere safe
dreamy trail
Cool
untold schooner
like maybe yur apartment?
rustic verge
how will this game tackle expansions? I saw on the wiki level cap will increase but does that mean like in wow where your old gear is now pretty much useless?
Thats quite ahead though so I dont worry about that lol
fringe breach
Is there anything else a mayor can do apart from taxes and allocating resources to buildings?
stable plover
@rustic verge I would expect new gear to come with new max level - Note that AoC gear is a bit more 'disposable' in the first place, you need materials from the tier of the gear to repair it.
@fringe breach They can allocate resources to some things besides buildings like more guards or having the node generate certain quests.
fringe breach
Cool, is treaties a thing?
stable plover
Mayors also need to coordinate node caravans
@fringe breach Yes, declare war/peace/trades with other nodes
hushed kelp
since im going falconer am i able to customize the bird say i want a barn owl not a falcon can i do that?
fringe breach
Nice, btw thank you for answering my questions 
hushed kelp
i know summoners can customize their summons so could i make my falcon through the same menu?
stable plover
@hushed kelp They've talked about wanting summoners to be able to customize summons using the animal husbandry animal customization suite -> so depends on how development goes, but probably
long crater
Ive seen that elections occur every 30 days, which seems like a long time to have to deal with a bad mayor who say, doesn't play very often suddenly. Is that 30 days of real life time or accelerated game time
viscid cypress
how annoying is repairing gonna be ? its already kinda tedious in WoW
hushed kelp
ty for the info im hoping as a falconer i can have a falcon or small- mid sized owl in case ill have the ability to see through the falcons eyes
stable plover
@long crater Real life time
hushed kelp
so that if i join a node siege i can scout the defenses using that falcon or owl
long crater
revolution it is
stable plover
@viscid cypress You need to go to a player run stall, capable of making the repair, that has the materials for the repair in stock, place your item that needs the repair in the UI and pay whatever they're asking. - Or repair it yourself using the proper facilities/materials and your crafting skill.
viscid cypress
how often do you need to repair ? how does it wore out ? everytime you get hit ? or die ?
red anvil
So... I’ve got two questions (in one sentence) of which I’m curious to ask?
Are there going to be different variety of enemies in each environment and will each possess their own unique quests or items?
stable plover
@viscid cypress https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gear#Item_durability -> what we know, the devs haven't said how long they want gear to last under normal use
viscid cypress
okay thanks
stable plover
@red anvil There will be a variety of enemies in each environment, and the particular enemies can change with node development.
Depends on the area -> A lot of 'Kill 20 bears" in an area are "tasks" that you just get for being in the area and not 'quests' that you would get from a node that would be more like "Find the scout we sent out to the area with the bears"
red anvil
Ooh... Thank You!
wintry moat
does seasons change in the game ?
slow sky
every week
wintry moat
so winter area become green and green area become winter ?1
stable plover
Oh and different groups of mods are meant to have different loot tables -> Bears drop 'fur' and 'claws' not 'gold' that you sell to a vendor to get the gold
@wintry moat It's meant to be all zones that change seasons have spring one week, they all have summer the next - not all zones change seasons, special events can override the normal season
viscid cypress
there are 4 seasons
red anvil
And since I’m curious for one more question (though I’d don’t want to waste your time, with the safe needless questions) here it is:
What sort of variety of options are we “players”, going to get in Quests?
Are they’d going to have some Story or Lore behind them?
(I’d like collectibles or lore to tempt my curiosity in MMOS, helps expand my love and compassion for the adventurous world)
wintry moat
cause i like to be in winter if it is going to change i think it doesn't matter where i go
rustic verge
There are 3 quests I believe
1 of which is lore
1 is normal tasks
last is religion or something
red anvil
YES!
Love it when’d quests are optional and diverse.
Gives me more storylines and adventure to enjoy, when’d I’m not playing multiplayer or just going solo
stable plover
@red anvil Take a look here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Quests and here https://ashespost.com/a-journey-for-knowledge/ (lore summary so far)
wintry moat
i think seasons are more like snows are get melted in summer while there is still snow on mountain
slow sky
There are 3 types of quests
Narrative, Tasks, Events
Tasks are your standard "kill x enemies" or "collect x amount of this"
rustic verge
yeh events not religion sorry
slow sky
events and narrative not much have been said but are more fleshed out than tasks
dreamy trail
Question: say I have 100 resource stored in a city and it's successfully sieged. How much will be lost, how much will go to the looters, and will any be sent back to the original owner?
mystic olive
alpha 1 contestants are set or can i still join?
slow sky
Alpha 1 cannot be bought into at this time, earliest is now alpha 2
mystic olive
and alpha 2 is early next year?
stable plover
@wintry moat 5 main religions, 1 underrealm religion
slow sky
no set time on alpha 2 but presumably yes early 2021
mystic olive
thxxxx ~ hype 😮
wintry moat
they said there is alpha in fall what about that ?
slow sky
Alpha 1 will not have a media NDA so be sure to check out streams for it
Alpha 1 is this fall
stable plover
@wintry moat Fall begins Tuesday, September 22 (in 62 days) and ends Monday, December 21
wintry moat
i too late for alpha 1 damm it
stable plover
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1 <- expected A1 features list
last sparrow
Q: If you buy a package that will give you an option to enter Beta or any testing, does it count for any place? I think i read before that Intrepid is for NA, and my.com is for EU, so if i buy on intrepid site will be able to play on EU server?
ripe axle
I hope there's enough people broadcasting the game I want to see all of them
wintry moat
@ripe axle asmongold for sure XD
slow sky
ill try streaming it myself
wintry moat
@slow sky In discord ?
slow sky
on twitch
boreal abyss
@last sparrow you will be able to migrate your NA account to EU at a later date
last sparrow
but it will be an option for beta testing? i mean migration.
boreal abyss
dont even know if eu will have its own test servers 
polar pawn
i was too consumed by looking at secondary class augments to even think about this but i realised i have no idea, what are same-class augments gonna be? like if you go tank/tank?
last sparrow
I see hope we do...
stable plover
Frankfurt is supposed to have an A1 test server
wintry moat
boreal abyss
@last sparrow there you go (Greypelt's answer)
last sparrow
Thanks 😄
wintry moat
@stable plover is there any way to get in to alpha 1 still ?
stable plover
@wintry moat Not currently, A1 keys might go on sale again depending on how testing goes
haughty geyser
Other than being a very popular influencer I don't think so
potent thunderBOT
polar pawn
@wintry moat that doesn't really say anything about it
boreal abyss
class specific details unknown at this point
polar pawn
i'm not asking for class specific details just generics
if the secondary classes get augments that you can apply to your primary class's kit then what would choosing the same class do
boreal abyss
strengthen what's already there?
we dunno, no details
rustic verge
will every class have some utility? like cc/heals/buffs?
haughty geyser
@polar pawn I mean, you can very likely infer..... if you pick tank main and cleric Sub you will likely gain a sustain... if you pick tank main fighter sub you will likely gain more damage... if you go tank main tank sub you will get more mitigation
rustic verge
not considering augmentts
boreal abyss
utility yes, heals/buff, prob not
haughty geyser
@rustic verge They have stated they are going with the holy trinity. meaning while some tanks or dps may have some healing or some buffs its unlikely to be extensive
rustic verge
ok
stable plover
@rustic verge Every class will have a literal utility ability (like opening secret paths, finding mob spawn points, following tracks), but healing is part of the cleric kit (x/cleric gets self healing), and bards are specialized into buffing people (although other classes might have some buffs).
somber wadi
So secondary classes augment your primary classes abilities, are there enough variations with your primary classes abilities to justify 64 different variations, I can see some major overlap unless there's a lot of diversity in your 8 main class ability tables
rustic verge
are bards primary buffs with some heals or just buffs
boreal abyss
@somber wadi There will be overlap to some regard ofc, just different flavor
digital yacht
they are mainly buff and wont be designated healers
kind flare
proably will have some heals if you spec into a cleric on the second class i woud say (?)
somber wadi
@boreal abyss I can see major overlap problems lol
boreal abyss
your 2ndary archetype will basically be
"I want some of that Fighter/Mage/Ranger/Rogue flavor"
haughty geyser
In what way is overlap a problem?
boreal abyss
not everything has to be "unique"
kind flare
I think that as long as ther is class identitie, its ok for some classes to play out in similar ways
somber wadi
Problem is if your base class abilities aren't in decent abundance, those flavors won't be different that different if at all, like a x + b could be pretty much the same as 6 other variations unless there's a main class skill table that's large enough to actually have diversity in those same core groups
which is probably the case if there's 64 variations lol.
digital yacht
remember guys this is questions channel not speculation/theory crafting channel
plucky pawn
Indeed, please bring the longer discussions beyond your initial question on down to one of our lovely discussion channels below! 
somber wadi
Can we burn down peoples houses outside of towns or damage them in any way lol?
boreal abyss
yes, if a siege on the town it belongs to was successful
haughty geyser
They have stated during successful sieges you can then pillage the nearby homes for stored resources...
somber wadi
@haughty geyser if i knew that i wouldn't of asked
haughty geyser
you asked and I answered....
somber wadi
Nah you implied i should've known that already, should've just said yes or no, keep it simple buddy.
haughty geyser
Well, I disagree with the intent you are assigning to my message. However we were just reminded this is not the place for long form discussion.
rocky scroll
the kickstarter is closed correct? so the way to play the earliest is the preorders with alpha 2 access right?
noble crater
Yes, correct. The Alpha 2 packages on the website are the earliest access you can currently buy
nocturne ether
If I buy a pack, can I upgrade it later?
noble crater
Yes as long as there is a pack on the store of higher value, you will just pay the difference
cerulean siren
If I bought beta access on a wrong account, is it possible to refund it or transfer it some way?
noble crater
@cerulean siren not sure what you mean, I would contact support and ask them
cerulean siren
Nothing serious, just was logged into the wrong account when I bought the $75 pack
ebon star
put in a ticket
cerulean siren
Alright
boreal abyss
it is possible to refund
kind flare
Quick question, I haven't Seen this mentioned on the videos / interviews I watched but will guild wars be a thing? Since this game has alot of clear inspiration from Lineage 2 I was wondering if it woud take the system front the game (If 2 guilds war each other they can pvp without flagging / risking going red)
slow spruce
I think thats included into node/castle sieges
kind flare
So it's dosent include open world pvp?
slow spruce
There is open world PvP with the corruption system, but both kinds of PvP work under different mechanisms
kind flare
Yeh I know about that, flag system, just wanted to know about guild wars, if they were a thing / worked similar to how they work in Lineage 2
crystal flax
If it's how you described it before, yes
slow spruce
I mean, castle sieges are kinda guild wars, castles are owned for guilds, so another guilds can siege the castle haha
kind flare
Yeh yeh don't get me wrong, I know what you are saying, I was just asking about open word pvp, like for example you are farming some mobs and a member guild that you are at war with (and they are at war with yours) shows up, I wanted to know if you coud fight without flagging / killing without becoming red
Because I always loved that system, it intencivizes pvp and group play in a way (strength in numbers)
tulip hatch
Yes you can war other guilds without worrying about corruption
ebon star
the guild wars are outside the open world pvp flagging system
tulip hatch
Same with node wars declared those citizens as enemies free to kill without corruption
ruby swift
There are currently 7 different PVP mechanics that do not utilize the flagging system.
kind flare
Hell yes, I love this game more each day
It really has alot of L2 inspiration, has a long time nerd fan of lineage, it brings a smile to my face to see such a good "spiritual successor" to my favorite game
Thanks for the replys, eagerly waiting more news about this project 
frigid plover
Will cosmetics be transferable between characters or will they be locked to just one?
tulip hatch
It's account based so you can assign them to your other characters
stray dome
Is there Merch/Art?
wraith elbow
Will allied guilds be able to participate in holding a castle and percs? We generally play as a collective of guilds and would hope that they could have the same access to Castle percs
frigid plover
Will there be an in game voice chat? (Thanks again)
sturdy agate
hey, umm if you take a break from the game will you be punished as such and find it hard to catch up or will you be able to just drop in and out of the game like say Guild Wars 2?
ebon star
only thing that might affect you is if the node you were citizen of well away getting destroyed. players are mostly nomads
sturdy agate
so gear isn't in a system of progression that you constantly have to upgrade to be on par with everyone else?
ebon star
nodes are built to have constant mix of players high and low level around
sturdy agate
hmm okay thank you
ebon star
frigid plover
Are weapon / item drops going to be randomized or static?
stray dome
The castle system, they are 15 castle nodes.
Can they only be claimed by guilds and are they still get there specific Typ and what happens before they get claimed, are they just normal nodes?
sturdy agate
(thanks Kinetic!)
stray dome
5 castles are special same rules for them?
fast bear
how much will the game be?
ebon star
drop system is higher percentage of getting materials to craft the gear/weapon then a completed item when it comes to higher tier gear/weapon. low level gear/weapon tables might be closer to even split of mats vs full item (unkown currently)
slow sky
@fast bear $15/month
ebon star
there are only 5 castles in the world for guild to fight over control for @stray dome
^
carmine ridge
Q: Is there any possibility of adding more primary classes in the future?
ruby swift
Always a possibility, but highly unlikely as they have a massive job to balance as is.
hollow abyss
Are classes constrained to weapon types? Will we have more options than just say a staff for warlock etc?
verbal sandal
Vek is kinda like druid imo
slow sky
every class can use every weapon
but classes will be more proficient with some weapons than others
hollow abyss
oh siiiiiiiiick
ebon star
some classes may prefer certain weapons though
slow sky
but there's absolutely nothing stopping you from being a greatsword wielding cleric
sick plaza
Any idea how tank/summoners and summoner tanks are gonna work? Off tanks? Main tanks? Is it undead creatures that are being summoned along or the same creatures that would be connected to the race
slow sky
no clue
ebon star
skills of specific classes aren't announced yet and will take time of people exploring each class mix archetype before all combos of skills are known
slow sky
Rogue/Mage and yes doubling up on a class will be its own archetype with benefits for doing so
crystal beacon
Im a rogue lover, something related with rogue
limpid gull
Will we be able to make macros? Like combing multiple commands into 1 command(Buff ability > /wait 45s > /use Buff ability again type of thing)?
slow sky
no macros
ebon star
The issue with macros is that from an anti cheat metric perspective it's difficult to define what a macro is against a script. And in order to catch all scripts sometimes you have to prevent the macro usage. So really that's a that's a data issue. If we allow for macros then we lose our ability to precisely ban script users, botters.[21] – Steven Sharif
limpid gull
Ahh, understandable
verbal sandal
Does it support 21:9 ratio?
dark jungle
verbal sandal
Noice
hollow abyss
clerics are healers
dire ledge
If I was to purchase a pre order package what would be the earliest time I could play?
hollow abyss
i imagine bards will supply buffs in the form of songs
austere vault
So I got a question in regards to gathering, specifically herbalism. Is the gathering usually just roaming the world finding the specific plants and gathering those resources or can you additionally find seeds to which you can plant and harvest when ready?
hollow abyss
and summoners summon pets
cunning verge
Hello, been following the game for a little while and considering getting the pack with an alpha 2 key, is it likely the next month preorder pack will still contain it? Im just not a fan of the swamp pack personally
crystal beacon
Cleric , like church relates , like a priest healing , summoner summon stuff lol , bars i think is relates to music idk
Bard *
slow sky
@cunning verge unless otherwise announced the packs will continue to contain the alpha access
young sluice
So this game got delayed AGAIN?
cunning verge
Thank you :)
hollow abyss
Cleric
slow sky
This game will get delayed as much as it needs for Steven to release his polished vision, the game has never had a solidified release date so can';t really say it has been delayed
velvet ruin
kind of feels like star citizen tbh
austere vault
Dunno SC is what.. 8 years in now and 300 million dollars later?
Don't feel like it can be compared at this point
velvet ruin
9
hidden halo
To be fair, SC suffers from massive scope creep. AoC is still on track with original scope.
velvet ruin
but they havent even fleshed out combat
frigid plover
So with the Voyager plus package, do the monthly exclusive cosmetics continue past launch?
slow sky
except the game has already released play test content that provided valuable testing like Apocalypse and has already tested some pre-alpha content, it also has been very transparent and released 2 hours of unedited pre-alpha footage to show many systems that have been developed and working over the 3 year development since kickstarter
timid mason
So apocalypse is kind of a gauge how combat system will work?
ebon star
@austere vault as of current pre-alpha we were wandering the world to gather materials but not to say a herb garden could be possible is waiting to see as the farming system wasnt in our last test
austere vault
Oh thanks
hidden halo
@timid mason No...Apoc was a testing ground for the server backend and account services(as well as other features)
slow sky
Apocalypse was an overall testing ground for their action combat and revealed a huge underlying flaw that had it existed in further development then what they were at would have been an immensely bigger issue to fix
crystal flax
And just a little bit of combat
proper grove
didnt they say farming would be part of having a freehold
slow sky
you can set up farming on your freehold
ebon star
yes farming plots on freeholds is possible
austere vault
Would be amazing to be able to have a herb garden though 😁 being able to occupy real world space traveling to the city node and purchasing seeds and tools and head out to your freehold making this garden and then sell the resources to the node at a later date or to be able to make potions, stims, etc
ebon star
frigid plover
So with the Voyager Plus pack, are those only pre-order bonuses or will this be a continuing thing?
slow sky
I assume so, on launch i see no reason why they wouldnt just use the cosmetic cash shop
ebon star
they are pre-order packs right now as for how they change after launch unknown
you can buy a pre-order pack now at lowest cost then later upgrade by only paying the difference between the high pre-order pack
the cosmetics you get with during those two purchases will be based on the cosmetics available to the packs at the time of purchase and upgrade
austere vault
@ebon star thanks dude. Holy shit that is something I am really looking forward to. I feel nostalgic already to a MMO i used to play back in 2004 being Voyage Century where I would spend most my time farming, lumberjacking and being a merchant traveling the Mediterranean Sea 😁
narrow yacht
will the next dev update be on the 31st or the friday before that?
stable plover
@narrow yacht They're usually the last Friday of the month, and if it was going to be in 2 days they would have usually already announced it. They could always change it to the Thursday or something since it's not official yet though.
narrow yacht
ty
limpid gull
Any idea when we'll get to hear some of the OST? I'm dying to see what kind of music to expect from AoC
austere vault
So just so I don't misunderstand. The difference between blacksmithing, armor smithing and weapon smithing is that blacksmithing is essentially crafting tools needed to make weapons, armors, pickaxes, axes, etc. While armorsmithing is for armor and weapon smithing for weponry?
stable plover
@limpid gull We're expecting the games original music to be in for Beta 1 - It's being made by Bear McCreary so you could listen to some of his other works, if you sort of want an idea of what to expect
limpid gull
Ahh, that far off, alright then.
viral lintel
id expect blacksmithing to also make gathering tools
ebon star
@austere vault exactly
viral lintel
like Tinkering in UO
ebon star
gathering tools will also be in blacksmithing
unreal drum
When nodes level up if a different race is the top contributor than the last upgrade will there still be semblances of the previous races aesthetic like if orcs made a town and dwarves upgraded it to a city would there be a vaguely orcish old town district or somesuch? or do we know at all yet?
austere vault
Yeah awesome 😁
indigo bloom
Hi im new to the server and only learned about the game recently but i was wondering if theres any estimated release date/year? 👀 im really excited to play this! I even got my mom hooked on the game and wanting to try it. I couldnt find any info about it on the website or in the faq so apologies if it was already answered somewhere! 🥺👉👈
slow sky
Full release is estimated to be 2-3years
indigo bloom
awesome! thank you so much 🥺❤️
stable plover
@austere vault We've heard that professions will be able to be self sufficient in making their own tools, so I don't think that blacksmithing would be making tools for other professions.
ebon star
you wont be able to make the master level tools for master level crafting in other professions i believe greypelt
slow sky
think of it like in runescape the gatherer can make iron and steel pickaxes for mining but to get a rune pickaxe they'd have to seek out a blacksmith kind of deal is how i interpret that
ebon star
^ pretty much
austere vault
Question, given that freeholds is only limited to one character per account, is it possible to hold several characters to the same freehold?
ebon star
they want a player driven supply and demand economy
freehold is account based not character based
indigo bloom
thats exciting!! im looking forward to see how the game progresses
austere vault
Ok so basically all your characters will have access to your freehold then?
Awesome
tidal nexus
Anyone know what the Name Reservation under the Voyager pack entails? I couldn't find that
long crater
What ever happened to AoC Apoc? Just watched some gameplay and it looked amazing.
ebon star
when name reservations are possible an email and announcement will be sent out
sharp sky
so you don't actually build ships with ship building? You just make items for them? or do you build onto them?
slow sky
Apoc was mostly testing their systems, Apoc will return for more testing after Alpha 1
tidal nexus
@ebon star Is it just a way to reserve your name in game, so nobody else takes it ?
ebon star
unknown as to full aspect of shipbuilding system we know that shipbuilders will be able to augment ships though
sharp sky
ok thx
ebon star
yes on how name reservation works
slow sky
Ship augments include examples like more hp, faster turning speed etc
limpid gull
Just to confirm...you can be PKed inside a town/village right?
crystal flax
Yes, but guards will attack corrupted players on sight
ebon star
limpid gull
Okay, thanks
cosmic shell
Will ashes have any kind of MML Player music system or any kind of player music system at all?
wraith zenith
How awesome is the fishing?
ebon star
unknown for final form of fishing right now there is an interact to start fishing as a start to the system
glass lynx
its not out yet right
wraith zenith
Still excited!
ebon star
no pre-alpha
proper grove
@cosmic shell
ebon star
closed alpha is coming soon to those with access
glass lynx
how does one get access
ebon star
pre-order packages on the website
weary stratus
will there be a fishing profession similar to archeage? going to the ocean with your boat and being careful of pirates
ebon star
the earliest access of A1 testing is currently not for sale anymore
glass lynx
ima just wait then
it still has like a year to get released right
to public
server launch
ebon star
there will be fishing in rivers/streams, fishing boats, and fisheries on freeholds
proper grove
2-3 years
cosmic shell
@proper grove thank you! do we know if it is going to be MML or more like FFXIV?
proper grove
no idea rn
cosmic shell
Ah thanks again
proper grove
peon video
ebon star
^
austere pike
If you are made "enemy of a node/state" will you be able to kill people there without getting corruption? As they will be able to kill you.
ebon star
you will be auto flagged for combat
proper grove
you dont get corruption for killing bounty hunters
austere pike
i see
austere pike
so people wont actually know its an enemy of the state, just that hes flagged for combat?
or will there be some sort of indicator
crystal flax
An enemy of the node would appear as a combatant to citizens of the node they're a target for, I imagine
Not for everyone
Same as two guilds at war with each other
austere pike
ah right
small cave
What happens if you attack someone and he coincidentally happens to die from the mob, do you get corrupted? 
crystal flax
@small cave In it's current form you only get corruption for dealing a killing blow, but I'm sure they'll work around situations like that
austere pike
the true griefing
viral lintel
coincidentally, right
small cave
Yes coincidentally 
viral lintel
if you do that, i hope you gain some bonus corruption
small cave
proper grove
can i lead a mob train onto someone
past vortex
will there be a way to re-allocate my skill points?
viral lintel
i guess that couldnt be made exploit-proof tho, else anyone being attacked by someone would hit some random mob once just to give the attacker extra corruption. but you should definitely gain corruption regardless if you did the first or last hit
static oriole
I am curious abnout attacking someone and leaving them at like 5% and not killing them
that kind of greifing that doesnt kill them and wouldnt cause corruption
crystal flax
They could probably make it so there's some sort of timer like "You attacked someone! If they die in the next 10 seconds regardless if it was your fault, you will become corrupted"
past vortex
act of aggression adds corruption, imo
viral lintel
if you beat me down to 5% just to make me sit on my ass, i'd fall on my sword to make you pay for it
small cave
Well in that case it can be abused by the other guy as well
If he wants you to get corruption
He removes all his gear and jump into mobs
crystal flax
A shorter timer than the one I mentioned probably
small cave
small cave
Everyone is green by default no
viral lintel
until they flag
small cave
To flag don't you need to attack someone in the first place?
crystal flax
You turn it on if you want to
cerulean siren
I assume its gonna be a button you push
small cave
Ah
proper grove
what if someone hits me on accident because im jumping between them and the mob theyre fighting, then i suicide to give em corruption
crystal flax
The act of attacking isn't what flags you, you choose to flag
viral lintel
if the other side attacks you back, they're combatant, too, and you wont gain corruption
proper grove
i see
wintry moat
hey guys i have question what is different between Paladin and priest ?
@simple ether no i mean about lore
both come from light right ?
ebon star
the base skills you augment off of from the secondary class
crystal flax
We don't know lore behind classes
static oriole
the second class will only augment the first class' abilities right? So it should be all cleric classes can heal and all tank classes can tank?
ebon star
yes in simplest form
cerulean siren
One is probably focused on healing others in lore, another in keeping themselves in some holy light
Priest/Paladin
proper grove
is cleric the only healing option
worn elk
So i bought the highest teir preorder, can i buy next months items seperately?
wintry moat
i trying to roleplay and i want to know both come from light or what ?
viral lintel
noone knows
wintry moat
then i consider both from light
cerulean siren
Not much lore yet has been shown, so its hard to assume
crystal flax
It's better to wait til you know than make your own assumptions like that
viral lintel
the game is years out, noone knows, but they will add lore when it's ready
wintry moat
small cave
I can't wait to see how tulnar can look honestly
cerulean siren
Same
proper grove
i want lore on sanctus
small cave
thats the only race that attract me so far
proper grove
for backstory purposes
static oriole
I wonder if they are kicking themselves for offering them, I wonder what the buildings will look like when they contribute the most lol
wintry moat
i might go that big race as knight
viral lintel
im interested to find out what they mean with "good necromancers" and "helpful spirits" or whatever the terminology was
wintry moat
why everybody want to have neromancers ?!
crystal flax
Remember this is the #questions channel guys, we can take lore discussions to one of the other channels
viral lintel
i dont mean lore-wise
as necro, you usually raise undead
as normal combat pets
wonder what you have as "good necro"
small cave
the closest to a necro would be some summoner archetype no?
small cave
ah ye mb, didnt really pay attention to summoner specs as i'm not interested at all in this class
fringe breach
Is there a list of things that are functional right now?
lament dagger
can nodes have more than one social org. at once?
mighty dagger
is there anything being done to futureproof the graphics of the game, since by the time it comes out the project will be 7-8 years old?
small cave
Btw, I hope that the mage will be a bit faster than what was shown in the videos, because those animations holy .. that's so slow
no way anyone would get hit by that in pvp
lament dagger
@mighty dagger but the graphics are 4k and they use the unreal engine... i dont think there will be a problem for another century or so if at all
viral lintel
the mix of action and tab targeting will make sure you hit with spells
grim breach
@mighty dagger They're planning to make the game running on computers that's at most 5 years old by the time it is released. So the graphics should be at least 5 years old.
wintry moat
and guy in gameplay wasn't max lvl
viral lintel
in that one video stevens fireball homed in on an enemy player
wintry moat
maybe max lvl combat is faster
small cave
i mean ofc I don't expect something ultra fast paced like bdo or other actionrpg
but those aoes
viral lintel
i like heavy, impactful movement. most asian mmos feel weightless and wimpy
wintry moat
@small cave maybe they want to reduce lag by slowing the fighting
small cave
as I said, it's not about slowing the fighting
viral lintel
i believe the current animations are placeholder anyway
small cave
but whats the point of an aoe skill, if you have the time to drink a coffee and move out of it before it starts doing damage
austere vault
@mighty dagger the game is using Unreal Engine 4. Unreal Engine 5 is set to release next year allowing Unreal 4 projects to be easily transfered to Unreal 5. Not sure if Intrepid will do this though, but Unreal Engine 4 has by far some of the best graphical opportunities than many other engines
mighty dagger
ty for answers all
small cave
thats the only thing i'm really worried about
wintry moat
or you like cartoony look of wow
viral lintel
i do indeed like the look of wow, but one mmo with that art style is enough for me
wintry moat
ok boys let's go general discussion
fringe breach
If you become mayor and you take away resources from the guards to weaken to capital for upcoming attack, will you get in trouble for that like what stopping that from happening
toxic vine
They want the lore to be discovered in game
@simple ether Thank fuckin god for this, I wanna know enough to be interested but I don't wanna know any more than that
What do you think the players who just lost resources and homes think about such an act? 🙂 @fringe breach
toxic vine
We don't know honestly xD whatever.. Kill you on sight? Drag your name to mud?
crystal flax
They can leave the town or try to prevent the person from getting reelected
ebon star
player reputation is gonna matter
wintry moat
griefing is going to be hard in this game cause everybody in the community and they can track you down
toxic vine
Maybe they do nothing! Nobody knows how people are gonna react
Can you really track people down easily?
wintry moat
why would you do that even ?
toxic vine
Like who can predict bunch of gamers 😄
crystal flax
Player reputation is supposed to be important
ebon star
depends on the time you are marked for bounty
toxic vine
But yea, you know what happens when you target a mob and press fireball. Predicting what people will or are cabable to do is just impossible. Endless amount of scenarios. ON top of that, Im sure theres systems that we know nothing about that would affect things like this
lost sorrel
During a siege that has been declared on a node. Will an individual that owns a freehold on the node being attacked be able to hire npc guard’s from the city? So once the city has been sacked, the attackers would have additional resistance if they decided to attack my freehold.
digital yacht
no, there might we wandering guards(somewhat shown in the alpha preview) that could be at the right place at the right time but hard telling right now
lost sorrel
May not be a bad feature as an additional resource/financial sink into the game. Just throwing it out there.
Thank you @digital yacht
frigid plover
The Black Spirit is sorry
cosmic comet
quasi atlas
Is there going to be another round of testing coming? If so, is there a date?
broken lodge
a1 testing in Fall
simple sky
Hey so I was watching one of the livestreams and they mentioned a player stall, are players going to be able to rent/own/setup (real-space not instanced) stalls to sell their items? If so that is so lit
ebon star
yes player stall do exist where people can buy/ get repairs from you well offline
player stalls are rented space though
ebon star
you can make your freehold a tavern
simple sky
If you do that can you sell items there? Cause that sounds 100% up my alley
ebon star
Taverns provide tiered services.[39]
Quests that might only be gathered from the player-owned taverns.
Meals that grant buffs for a period of time after a player leaves.
Recipes that could potentially be sold to cooking professions, that may only be obtained from a player-owned business in a certain area.
The longer the tavern is in business and the more patrons served, the faster the tavern will level up.[39]
travelling player merchants in game through caravan system
hollow elm
What is tiered service? You get tiered in the game? Does ashes have a dumb labor system?
ebon star
no labor point system
ebon star
like the more options will be available in your tavern the longer and more profitable it is in service
hollow elm
Oh lol, i can't read lol
That you said tired somehow, long day doing welding
Thought*
iron garden
With wow theres parsing which is a fun way to be competitive with pve. It seems like this game wont really allow parsing to exist, but will there be a way to be competitive in pve for bragging rights and recognition?
hushed kelp
dont forgot tavern owners can rent out rooms and depending on the nodes main race have differnt pallor games
hushed kelp
I'm running me a tavern called the The Shining Heart Pub once the game goes live so I've researched a lot about taverns
iron garden
Are those leaderboards based on your group or individual performance? @ebon star
ebon star
no data there
the metrics of those systems havent been talked about much beyond they will be in game
ask it during the livestream next week
alpine pawn
Will there be reputations
crystal flax
As a game mechanic, I don't think so
But people's individual reputations will be important
ebon star
reputations will exist with like thieves guild, college of scholars, ...etc
gusty mantle
Question! Will there be mounted combat or combat mounts (aside from seige dragons) or mount(ed) attacks?
ebon star
Certain mounts will have combat abilities.[7]
Players can't use their class skills while mounted.[7]
Mounts can be killed by players, but can be resurrected
gusty mantle
Anything on "autoattacks" on a mount?
gusty mantle
I think it would be pretty cool to be able to throw potion bombs from a mount as well
thanks for the answers Kinetic
glass bluff
Is there any info on character creation that I can read up on? Is it going to be more Eastern based (More sliders, more detail, more options) or more Western based (couple different options for specific features or areas, pretty cookie-cutter)?
oblique scarab
Any idea if they will have an In game parse system for DPS and healing?
ebon star
the devs have their data collection tools but add-ons for players are not supported as of now
crystal flax
@glass bluff They aim to be akin to BDO
glass bluff
Will they have character creation templates that you can save as well as import/export like BDO?
crystal flax
They have a bad rep previously but they retain 0 creative control for Ashes
ebon star
@glass bluff Character appearance is able to be saved to hard disc
stable plover
@astral dune I reccomend TheLazyPeon's video on the topic https://youtu.be/KGsXie8d8mM
glass bluff
Thank you for the answers and the wiki link, Volpur and Kinetic!
stable plover
@astral dune Short version: My.com was the only EU publisher willing to accept Intrepid's terms
digital yacht
@astral dune they were unable at the time (prolly still are) able to self publish in EU
if they didnt u wouldnt have EU servers
astral dune
It seems like EU gets screwed over quite bad here
digital yacht
y?
astral dune
Because regardless of the P2W angle and all of these other issues with my.com they have a terrible reputation for incompetency, security, etc
also russian spyware most prominently
digital yacht
astral dune
Including the data harvesting?
digital yacht
if it was made public steven knew about it
crystal flax
He literally went to their headquarters in Amsterdam (or something of the like) to discuss it
digital yacht
will a print out of every little thing that people were concerned about
ruby swift
Blame your local politicians and government for creating an atmosphere hostile to startups. You limit the options, you get what you get. Intrepid has done the best they can with what is available.
digital yacht
^PREACH
astral dune
? Why would Europe be any more of a difficult market to start up than NA; it's a capital issue surely
digital yacht
its more than just money lol
ruby swift
Please watch the LazyPeon video, he goes into depth as to why it occurred.
astral dune
I am doing, I watched it when it was current and im rewatching it now
proper grove
thats why you get your business license in a state with really beneficial laws
gusty mantle
does someone have the link to the lazypeon vid?
gusty mantle
danke
north oyster
Will there be cosmetic PLAYER skins? Also, will there be transmogs?
digital yacht
yes
north oyster
like pay to get cosmetic armor? or the actual playermodel?
ruby swift
Both
sacred tangle
you can tell a player's actual armour via a buff on them
ruby swift
I don't like oysters. So I don't eat them.
north oyster
@ruby swift yeah I know, im not butt hurt just kinda the tiniest bit wish it wasn't a thing
thanks for answering
cloud sinew
Anyone purchased any of the pre-order packs?
Just wondering how exactly that all works?
stable plover
@cloud sinew https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs#Pre-order_pack_information -- Have a more specific question?
cloud sinew
Nope that link was perfect thanks bud!
craggy harness
What is AoC policy on multiboxing or using multiple accounts? I.e what's stopping someone from creating hundreds of accounts to vote for themselves as mayor
boreal abyss
Only if you are Corrupt (chance to drop some, not all)
which you become when you kill non-combatant
craggy harness
Corrupt is if you pk non-pkers right
hasty moss
is there a reason the only aquatic mount skin we have is from KS? did they say something about focusing on land stuff first?
craggy harness
Do we know if there's area restrictions
boreal abyss
green, aka people not flagged yes
craggy harness
Like can't pk in towns
boreal abyss
Can PK everywhere
except inside someone's Freehold
even in cities
(tho there are guards so... good luck)
boreal abyss
that I cannot recall, there is a whole system hierachy and I cannot remember the details, sorry
sleek cloud
Yup, murder all your neighbors