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#questions
grave dirge
azure panther
Yo dudes, am I right that once you get your subclass you get 4 augments per skill? can you augment every skill for primary class?
desert ivy
That's the current plan
Of course, that's subject to change based on the testing we do
humble widget
Anyone know if sub class is set in stone or if there will be a respec option?
desert ivy
You can change your secondary class, just not your primary.
desert ivy
You won't be able to change the secondary whenever you want, however I don't think it has been confirmed how it will be done
ripe dawn
Whoah. i have met 3 people on discord with cozy in the name. cool.
desert ivy
But you won't just be able to change it while in a dungeon for example
stiff wren
are they doing the POE style microtransactions? cosmetics and storage space, etc?
sacred tangle
stiff wren
nice
limpid sapphire
do we know when beta 2 is out?
desert ivy
We don't have any release times except for Alpha 1 which is next month for leader of men backers and Fall for Intrepid pack holders. Beta 2 will most likely be around 2 years away if I had to guess (pure speculation)
desert ivy
Nope, we're only just about to enter alpha testing
and it's proper alphas, not the "alphas" that Eastern MMORPGs do when they're ported over here
full flume
how will the trade system work , let's say i hire someone to upgrade my gear , what stops him from scamming me ?
boreal abyss
they are thinking about a system where your payment is held by a system while waiting for hired person to do his job, but details are unknown, but they are looking at it
full flume
yeah but he can run with my gear , and leave the payment
desert ivy
I mean obviously they're not planning for there to be. They're extremely confident that 250 v 250 is possible with minimal lag to the point that they're going to try and get up to 500 v 500
shut fossil
they said that in the interview with Asmon
stable plover
For things like gear repair it's been mentioned that it would be done through player shop UI where the other player never actually takes possession of the item
manic ice
when is the game coming out?
shut fossil
no release date set
manic ice
ree
stable plover
@manic ice There's no official release date, Alpha 1 isn't starting until fall
manic ice
Okay thanks 
shut fossil
probably 2-3 years
full flume
will there be any rare skills that you can acquire by killing bosses ?
desert ivy
There will be truly legendary items that may come with usable skills on them
I asked that question on a live stream a few months ago and while Steven said he'd love to do something like legendary skills, it's hard to do
But he said that having legendary gear with a skill attached to it is possible
stable plover
@full flume probably not rare skills, but there might be some augments rarer than others (that say require a quest through a social organization, and I suppose the quest could involve killing a boss)
clear turret
i know you prolly get questions like this and it repeats but i have been following since i tested apoc a long time ago and being a vet on disability couldnt fork over money to get the pack but ii have a little now is the game available for people with pre paid packs and can i still get one
i ilove testing alphas and betas
desert ivy
The game isn't available yet to any of the current buyable packs
full flume
Do you get to chose your starting weapon ? or you have to find that specific weapon you want to play with ? like one handed or axes
clear turret
thank you!
boreal abyss
Alpha 1 will be later this year (Alpha 1 no longer sold, but might come back)
Alpha 2 is available to purchase (min 250$)
desert ivy
Alpha 1 is in Fall but is no longer purchasable. Alpha 2 is the current earliest pack and alpha 2 will most likely be some time next year
clear turret
ok ty!
boreal abyss
@full flume unknonw
stable plover
@full flume At least currently you start with a default weapon and need to find your desired weapon type in game
clear turret
that is good enough and my desired answer since i will continue to follow and want to play a game worthy of playing! thanks
tall vector
Has the number of concurrent characters per player (possibly per server) been mentioned?
desert ivy
No, just that you will be able to make a "comfortable amount" of characters
How many that is is yet to be seen
tall vector
Ok thank you
full flume
how many characters can you create ?
desert ivy
Read the comment above.
frail solar
Is it possible to have a level 1 character max out crafting? Or are there requirements that a level 1 cannot do?
rustic finch
I've bought the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack. Around what time this year will the second alpha (persistent alpha) start?
dry flower
@frail solar artisan class is completely separate from adventuring class
rustic finch
ok
dry flower
@frail solar in other words it's most likely not impossible but you are probably going to endup just making your life harder by trying
boreal abyss
@frail solar You will level up before you master a craft
frail solar
So i could gather all the materials, make a lv 1 alt, give that alt all the materials and then power level processing? And then make another alt for crafting?
boreal abyss
crafting gives experience
dry flower
possibly
boreal abyss
so you would have to get yourself killed a lot too to keep him level 1
snow storm
It wont be easy to move large amount of materials around
frail solar
I was just wondering if a brand new character could just not do anything but level a profession and its possible
surreal trellis
And farming, and all those shenanigans
empty fjord
you will gain xp by crafting. you will not stay level 1 unless as stated you go out to die multiple times a day
surreal trellis
You lose XP by dying?
empty fjord
you gain xp debt by dying
fickle hawk
are there npc nodes like nodes that dont have a major but a neutral city thats pure npc
surreal trellis
So I can be in debt to the American goverment but in AoC, cool
desert ivy
There aren't any default npc cities in ashes
frail solar
Do you have a rough idea how long it takes to max out a profession?
surreal trellis
Well, depending on how much you farm. A long time.
boreal abyss
but details are unknown
mental trellis
Is there a playable version of the game rn?
boreal abyss
no
mental trellis
When will there be a test?
verbal sandal
Dont you have to do like a quest or study on each scientific node level to max out a professions?
boreal abyss
unknown
frail solar
If i become an artisan of crafting (mastering the branch of crafting) does this affect the leveling of other crafting professions or will progress be the same rate as normal?
boreal abyss
no wait, I do recall thejm mentioning that some quests would be artisan based
feral cloud
is there a way to change your class after character creation, or are you locked into it?
boreal abyss
locked
desert ivy
Primary class you can't change, secondary you can
boreal abyss
can changed 2nd archetype
verbal sandal
I remeber you have to go to uni (scientific node lvl 5 i think) to master artisan
feral cloud
are there benefits to picking the same primary and secondary?
desert ivy
You'll be more "focused" into the archetype. So tank/tank will probably be the best at pure tanking, but will lack versatility
Where as if you went, Tank/Fighter for example, you may have more damage (speculation)
flat carbon
how do you get phase 2 access?
full flume
Will you be able to fully master one handed/dual wielding for fighters ?
desert ivy
Yeah unfortunately you can no longer back the kickstarter
boreal abyss
@full flume there is no "weapon mastery" system
However, there is a Weapon Skill Tree that the more you use a weapon, the further along the tree you can go
desert ivy
^ Also, any class can use any weapon. Obviously some classes may do better with certain weapons, but it doesn't stop you from using a staff as a fighter if you really wanted to
flat carbon
so i have a bit of concern with ourchasing the voyager package and thats 100 of it is ingame currency
boreal abyss
Do share, we'll answer what we can
flat carbon
why is charging for igc, why not make it an addon
desert ivy
That's just the way Intrepid decided to have it.
flat carbon
its basically forcing you to pay an additional 100
desert ivy
There is no way to just buy the alpha or beta access separately.
flat carbon
to get early access
boreal abyss
hang on a sec
dry flower
it's not igc, embers are cash shop only currency
flat carbon
still a form of igc
flat carbon
thats not the point
feral cloud
so the IGC that you get more of for higher tier pre-order only translates to more untradable cosmetics?
dry flower
it's only in game currency if you can trade it with other players inside the game
which you can't
flat carbon
the buyer doesnt even know what the cosmetics look like at this state
boreal abyss
If you dont wanna take that risk, don't 
flat carbon
tbh to me feels like a bit of a money grab
but i still want the early access is the thing
dry flower
then I will borrow steven's words and tell you to not risk it and wait until release to see if you like how it works in practice
desert ivy
I mean you could wait until beta 2 and hope to get a key during a giveaway
If you want to test but not pay
feral cloud
i want to be clear, i'm not against it only being cosmetic bonuses. i want to try this game but i don't want to feel like on a mechanical or power level i'm nerfed for not spending more money
desert ivy
You won't
flat carbon
im fine with paying
desert ivy
There is 0 p2w in the game
feral cloud
well that's perfect.
flat carbon
but i dont want to pay for currency
dry flower
then don't
desert ivy
No P2W, no Pay-to-convenience, just cosmetic items
celest delta
It's pay to play with subscription right?
boreal abyss
@flat carbon then you are out of luck
desert ivy
So the mounts and stuff you see in the cosmetic shops aren't actually mounts that you can buy and instantly ride if you buy. They are the "skins" for the mounts that you'll need to apply to teh appropriate mount that you earn in-game.
boreal abyss
@celest delta only sub yes
celest delta
Then it's clear it won't be p2w since most sub games aren't that from what I have experience
quasi karma
will there be quest markers?
celest delta
Is it confirmed that you can play every class on one character?
stable plover
@quasi karma Directions to the general area, but no glowy sparkles
visual forge
@celest delta 1first class, 2nd class can be changed at any moment
stable plover
@celest delta You cannot - You can change your secondary archetype but not your primary archetype aka you could play 8 'classes' on one character, but not all 64
onyx hedge
Has anything been said Re: Addons? E.g.: Will there be Damage Meters/Raider.io type stuff? And if so, can there pls be in-game official versions rather than going through the junk of downloading from external site?!
half geyser
If the packages for early access didn't have the embers then literally everyone would buy it straight away. The embers make it more expensive so there are less people and in most cases more dedicated players who will be able to access the early access instead of just anyone who drops $30.
desert ivy
Yes, a lot has been said regarding addons and has been discussed 100s of times. There will be no addons of any sort. Period.
onyx hedge
Thank god.
stable plover
@onyx hedge They don't want addons, damage meters, or boss mods - They do plan on having a companion app and highly customizable built in UI
celest delta
What about built in damage meter for elitest if that's a thing
boreal abyss
No
desert ivy
No in-game damage metres. Steven is incredibly against them
cunning oriole
3rd party overlayed damage meters such as ACT are inevitable, I guess players will be banned for using them?
rocky scroll
I like that it slows down the game from getting to meta streamlined to quickly
stable plover
Elitests will have to break out their stop watches while people rush to kill a mob (This is more joke than literal)
rocky scroll
I have a question about tanking. Is it going to be really gear dependent like you have to use a sword and shield for example or will there be other capable options?
lean marlin
Using 1h and shield will allow you to mitigate dmg better, and there are several abilities that require a shield, can you tank without one? ~~Unknown at this time.~- (corrected by Grey)
stable plover
@rocky scroll They've said a shield won't be necessary for tanking, but will have shield related skills
boreal abyss
@cunning oriole yes
stable plover
Tanks will have different build options - Evasion tanks, Control tanks, Shield tanks
rocky scroll
Sweet thats what I wanted to know. I figured sword and shield would be "optimal" but i just like having the option.
golden flame
@dreamy scaffold they went with them because that’s the only way they could keep control of the cash shop
stable plover
@dreamy scaffold https://youtu.be/KGsXie8d8mM
golden flame
Other publishers wanted control of it which would likely lead to p2w at some point, intrepid wanted full control
lean marlin
They needed someone that knew EU laws, so that's basically why they are there. As for My.games turning anything p2w, they can't because of the contract if i'm not mistaken.
golden flame
@lean marlin correct
golden flame
Yes
It seems intrepid basically took a shittier deal so they could have total control (that’s just personal speculation)
woven vale
No one else took the deal of Intrepid controlling all monetization.
peak scarab
well then let's all join the NA server
strange socket
Has there been any official mention of guild crests/capes or somethign along that line?
woven vale
@peak scarab The poor souls who will have to be awake for primetime sieges but aren't in NA
peak scarab
😦
desert ivy
@dreamy scaffold Basically the only publisher in EU that was willing to let Intrepid keep control of the cash shop was my.games
They also have a contract in place the demands a certain level of server quality
Oh it's already been answered, my b
desert ivy
Yeah
golden flame
@strange socket there will be guild crests and stuff
Not sure specifically about capes but yeah probably
strange socket
Like next to your name, or cape based?
golden flame
I think it goes on your armour I’m not sure if there’s one by your name, it will say the guild you’re in though
strange socket
and do know if they will be custom, uploadable. or in-game editor
golden flame
It can also go on your house and stuff as well
hasty moss
There are specific guild cloaks and barding
golden flame
I’m actually not sure about that one but probably
strange socket
The way they did it in L2 was you had clan tag, and your ally tag would be right next to it combining it
It was great
celest delta
So there is 8 starting class and how many sub classes? And if you change your sub class do you have to level each sub class individually?
split hollow
Can you create multiple character on a single account?
strange socket
They're not really sub classes, they're secondary classes
golden flame
Yeah that does seem kinda cool, @strange socket of you want you should suggest in on forums
@split hollow yeah
strange socket
Im sure steven knows
golden flame
But some stuff is account limited like housing
strange socket
just wondering what he decided on
celest delta
Same thing sub or secondary. How many are there
split hollow
Thank god
strange socket
64 i think?
golden flame
Like you can have 1 freehold per account
Same with houses
But apartments I’m not sure if
Of*
hasty moss
@celest delta 64 total, you can change secondary through quest or something along those lines, no clue if it will stay leveled if you switch
celest delta
Do you level each secondary individually and if so when you change it out does the level stay
deft dragon
@celest delta
celest delta
Ah so each main Class + secondary makes a completely different combined class
celest delta
But that chart shows a complete different class depending on the secondary
strange socket
its not a different combined class really, it just allows you to augment your abilities giving them additional powers
velvet ruin
hey i was told loot in open raids will be distributed based on player contribution much like warhammer online of old. is this true?
celest delta
Tank and tank s guardian which is a class by itself
strange socket
You dont get any *new abilities. Just the option to "add support runes" like in POE
IE maybe you can double dash
or dash and leave a trail behind
deft dragon
goes into better detail to explain how the secondary customizes the first and changes your skills
woven vale
@velvet ruin If I remember the quote correctly I think so.
Can't find it on the wiki though.
velvet ruin
THAT IS AWESOME.
verbal sandal
strange socket
oh fuck yeah, they have the scav/bounty hunter mechanics
spoiling mobs for extra loot
making gatherers super relevant for pve
frail solar
Do you know what the recommeneded specs to play the game will be like?
strange socket
I doubt they'll be released for like another year
rocky scroll
Oh my big question is when we get to the point of selecting a secondary class will we see the possible augments of each one before we pick it or will we just have to pick one and explore it?
boreal abyss
@frail solar they have said tech 5 years back in time when it releases but it is unknown
onyx hedge
Have they discussed class depth thus far? Like which classes will be the kinda "hard to master, but super effective" vs the jack of all trades vs the "Fairly easy and moderately effective" types?
strange socket
Yea they need to get closer to completing combat before understanding skillcap
deft dragon
Right now they only have 3 primary classes in testing so they're a long ways off from even knowing the answer to that themselves
celest delta
Is there gameplay video or is it not allowed?
velvet ruin
HOW DO you "spoil" the mobs
as a master gatherer?
so at 2% health you can renege by casting Spoil extra action button?
strange socket
not sure
its probably like
if you have high enough gathering you just cast the spell on the mob
and loot after its dead
but it could be more complex
velvet ruin
can i enter dungeons and stop the players from killing the boss?
i would do that all day
dry flower
you can try to do that on open world dungeons
strange socket
yup
velvet ruin
id be the server boss npc protectorate
dry flower
good luck attempting to stop whole groups of people though
velvet ruin
who said id be alone
id make a guild The Protectorate and all we do goes towards that goal
vapid loom
The AOC shop defaults to USA I assume right?
raw veldt
Looking at the wiki here…
Do we know what the transition between seasons is going to look like? For example, going from Fall to Winter after their scheduled downtime will we just suddenly see snow everywhere or is there room for something like light snowfall over the last day or few hours of Fall before the downtime to sort of ease into the transition?
Additionally, I was concerned about this “scheduled downtime” and how this relates to “events that bring seasonal change”. While I realize the example on the wiki is just that, an example, it suggests the idea that seasons could last at varying lengths outside of a week’s time? How will this play into that scheduled downtime?
I may also just be asking way too early lol
strange socket
They said its going to be a week each season
so you get a full rotation each month
full nebula
he's asking if its a gradual change or an instant texture reload i think
raw veldt
Yeah this ^
strange socket
Yea who knows
raw veldt
Or if there is an illusion of change between
woven vale
I'd guess gradual, as an instant texture change would screw some pcs.
solar forge
aoc apoc any news?
solar forge
@solar forge A1- Apoc - A2
@woven vale ?
vapid loom
what's the difference between Ashes of Creation and AOC: Apocalypse?
woven vale
Apoc will be more action combat centrict
full nebula
alpha1 realease in fall, then apoc, then alpha2
vapid loom
ahh ok so not a totally different game then just a testing structure
woven vale
Yes, if Apoc has enough popularity they may just throw it on steam or something though.
But it is first and foremost a testing environment
vapid loom
thanks Joka
fair yew
It is meant as a stand alone game. when it officially launches with all the modes you can play APOC and earn cosmetics for the MMORPG
also meant to allow for testing and feedback
peak scarab
Nah
woven vale
@stray oasis You can choose your character names on creation, if you reserve your name and no higher tier reserves it, it is free for you to use
peak scarab
you'll have a character name
woven vale
No, as no name reservation has occurred.
grim breach
You also have to remember that name reservation comes first to the highest tier KS backers and the last one will be the cheapest pre-order pack that offers it.
ripe crescent
Anyone know the max length of a character name?
digital yacht
No
PI might know but that isn’t a 100% answer since it can be changed if needed
And atm APOC has no info on if it will even re launch
frail storm
hello guys :D
are there infos how ressourcenmanagement works?
like the mana of a mage.
woven vale
@digital yacht It was stated after alpha that apoc would continue, apoc wasn't cancelled only moved back
grim breach
Highest tier in the Kickstarter campaign = Avatar of the Phoenix ($10k) @stray oasis
digital yacht
@woven vale don’t get ur hopes up 😂
grim breach
@woven vale It has been stated, yes, but no ones expecting it to come up anymore.
ripe crescent
Any idea how many people payed for each tier in the kick starter
full badger
Those numbers only apply to the kickstarter. They don't account for anything that was purchased after the kickstarter ended
woven vale
It is possible for you to be unable to get your username.
dry flower
yes, especially now that you made a ton of people aware that you want it, and the internet is full of people that will just take it because they know you want it. @stray oasis
dark jungle
@stray oasis name reservation is per server so you could have a better chance on certain servers
river shell
is there a time frame on until when you are able to upgrade your kickstarter package?
dark jungle
none as yet @river shell
wraith elbow
Will there be an RP designated server?
woven vale
No
dark jungle
not official RP servers @wraith elbow but rpers will prolly have unofficial ones
woven vale
No server will have a designation of 'Rp,PVP, PVE, ect'
river shell
@dark jungle thanks
wraith elbow
Cool, will there be first name last name?
dark jungle
yes
dark jungle
^
wraith elbow
Cool, thanks @digital yacht @dark jungle
plucky pawn
@stray oasis The Kickstarter ended quite a while ago, but you can see it on the top right of the page here next to the backer number: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1791529601/ashes-of-creation-new-mmorpg-by-intrepid-studios
woven vale
@stray oasis
dark jungle
its just below on the same page
digital yacht
The 10k package was limited to 5 or 10 ppl
woven vale
digital yacht
I think 5 on KS and 5 on Intrepid website after KS ended
fair yew
Remember that those are the kickstarter backers there are also the summer backers and the Intrepid store packs that were alpha 1 packs
The name reservations will go kickstarter highest tier and below then summer backers highest tier down then store packs highest then down as far as I know
hearty dragon
Are the kickstarter backers still available, I have been looking forward to this game since i seen it on kickstarter in 2017
woven vale
No.
fair yew
if you bought a pack during the kickstarter you can upgrade your pack
hearty dragon
but unfortunately wasnt able to get in on the kickstarter, and dang, so the only ones available are the ones on the web page now huh
fair yew
correct
woven vale
Yes
hearty dragon
Alright dope thanks
digital yacht
Which is after the summer backers which is after the Kickstarter
hearty dragon
So the voyager pack is the highest available pack right now, does anyone know if that is the limit or if they will release higher packs
If alpha 1 doesnt crash their servers the first day, then there is something wrong with the world lol XD this game is about to be a game changer, no pun intended
naive birch
Hey everyone, I have a question regarding the referral system. The wiki states that players can receive 15 % of their account purchases back as Intrepid Bucks. Does this also take pre-purchases into account? Thanks in advance.
digital yacht
Yes
@naive birch so if u give ur friend a referral code and he buys let’s say a 150$ purchase in the ashes store no matter what it is u get 15% of that into ur intrepid bucks balance
So that would be 10$
Wait my math is wrong
U would get 22.50
humble zodiac
hello Guys, have you announced the alpha1 date?
digital yacht
@humble zodiac fall 2020
LoM backers get email instructions at the end of the month
Details here
naive birch
@digital yacht Perfect thank you for the explanation, much appreciated
hearty dragon
Does anyone know if the game will have a party bonus xp system or will it just be regular xp across the board evenly distributed or more going to the ones who do the most damage, and sorry for all the questions
digital yacht
No mention of more xp when ur in a party that I know of
hearty dragon
Thats fair
fair yew
in the last play test there wasn't any difference in XP when in a party vs not in a party but that is subject to change of course
crystal beacon
What about rested xp like in wow ?
fair yew
so far that wasn't in the game and I haven't heard mention of it. There was XP debt however. meaning when you die you have to void that debt before gaining xp again
crystal beacon
That’s punishing
hearty dragon
Oh so basically dont die repeatedly in this game lol
primal solstice
Does anyone know if the game will have a party bonus xp system or will it just be regular xp across the board evenly distributed or more going to the ones who do the most damage, and sorry for all the questions
@hearty dragon i think that concept must be add to the game , i like specific the flyff party's system ..
crystal beacon
Does the debt thing work on pvp too ?
true scaffold
why is pvp flagging called “corruption” instead of “outlaw”?
digital yacht
Cuz u gain corruption u don’t gain outlaw
Corruption also fits the lore of the game
true scaffold
better second answer
digital yacht
Corruption is a number u gain to become corrupted
hearty dragon
I like the name corruption, maybe in game there is "evil" and it consumes the person making them corrupted
true scaffold
I think it makes more sense to call corrupted players outlaws
hearty dragon
this aint red dead lmao XD
digital yacht
Only Steven has the actual answer to why the people are corrupted but it’s more or less along the lines to fit lore would be my guess
crystal beacon
I dont think its a rank/title and more of accumulating points and debuffs
Corruption sounds better imo
midnight iron
Hello! I would like to purchase a Wayfarer package and be part of beta 2 testing, but I don't really want do that without possible information I might learn from watching/reading about alpha1/alpha2/beta1 tests. Is it possible, that access to beta2 through Wayfarer pack may be removed from said package?
primal solstice
do you think plvl will be aviliable in a rewarding way to both sides?
digital yacht
@midnight iron that will stay available until they decide to take it down u have plenty of time
primal solstice
😥
true scaffold
the word corrupted doesn’t intrinsically mean PKer so it’s confusing
@digital yacht ty
digital yacht
If u are corrupted u are designated a PKer tho
Cuz from what I know only way to get corrupted (red) is from pking
midnight iron
@digital yacht So it is possible, that when beta1 for example rolls out, beta2 access from wayfarer pack may be taken away, correct?
hearty dragon
I feel like corruption an corrupted fit better because you also take stat, an other decreases the more corrupted you become, and the color of the nameplate will indicate what kind of corruption there is green being non combatant, purple being combatant, an red for hostile... i think thats who it was explained in the video
true scaffold
it makes sense if you already know what a “corrupted” player is within the context of the game. For a new player the label could be confusing
crystal beacon
Is it killing non-flagged or both ?
analog fox
red means bad, i think that's a pretty good indicator
true scaffold
@hearty dragon good point actually. forgot about the debuff
digital yacht
@crystal beacon u gain more corruption points based on level disparity of No flagged players if they fight back u do not gain corruption
Bc if they fight back the fight becomes consensual
crystal beacon
And if they’re flagged you dont get anything im guessing ?
primal solstice
i think lvl 50 cap is too low , thats kinda disapointing
digital yacht
50 is a fine number considering how long it takes to level
U won’t be 50 in the first week
Very few might be but doubtful
digital yacht
Yea
desert ivy
My goal will probably be like 2-3 weeks
obsidian ice
so i am on ashes page on Kickstarter but it wont let me back it i don't know what i am doing wrong
magic pebble
Will the Mayor/etc. of nodes be able to name the Settlement? I think that would go a long way to making people feel attached to a certain node.
desert ivy
45 days, 4-6 hours a day means if I play 16 hours it'll be possible
Oh wrong chat for this
primal solstice
i hope in every seaseon new content will be add for end game , end lvl cap will be increased
digital yacht
@magic pebble no that has been discussed bc then u will have to moderate troll names
primal solstice
and*
digital yacht
@obsidian ice KS ended long time ago
hearty dragon
Lvl 50 for a average player will take around 45 days to get close too playing 6 - 8 hours a day consecutively @primal solstice
obsidian ice
thanks
crystal beacon
@primal solstice Steven said in an interview that they plan on having monthly/ quarterly updates
peak scarab
when the official release is out , all the plyers start from zero ?
primal solstice
@primal solstice Steven said in an interview that they plan on having monthly/ quarterly updates
@crystal beacon thats great
crystal beacon
especially since not every feature they plan will be available at launch.
digital yacht
@peak scarab yes
coral needle
Hey guys, I have a quick question about the alpha. If you do the pre-order and get the alpha 2 and beta keys, when you play during that phase do you get to give your personal opinion about abilities and balance and feel of the classes? Or would we basically be bug inspectors?
digital yacht
@coral needle both
peak scarab
what about skins and stuff bought in beta ?
digital yacht
@peak scarab u keep
peak scarab
cool
digital yacht
Character progress gets reset on launch all servers wiped
Everyone starts the same
Cosmetics u keep
primal solstice
what is the lowest price to play the alphas tests?
coral needle
Do you keep your character name from beta and alpha or is that wiped too?
digital yacht
Ur name reservation will be tied to ur account
magic pebble
@digital yacht That is unfortunate. I feel a simple reporting system would prevent the super troll names but still allow the emotional attachment to a self-proclaimed piece of dirt 🙂 Thanks
digital yacht
If u don’t have a name reservation I’m guessing ur name would go back into the pool of names for ppl to yoink on launch @coral needle
crystal beacon
@primal solstice 75 dollars for access to last beta 250 for access to alpha and all betas.https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop?IntrepidSession=1593594830089.60887
coral needle
That makes sense. If you pay for the wild bundle that includes name reservation, do you only get 1 reserved name? Or do you get 2 or 3?
digital yacht
1
primal solstice
@primal solstice 75 dollars for access to last beta 250 for access to alpha and all betas.https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop?IntrepidSession=1593594830089.60887
@crystal beacon thanks 😃
coral needle
Fair enough
hearty dragon
yea but you also dont want to be flooded with reports for names in a mmo that has just released an still need to kink the bugs out of then you got to cycle through the ones that are name reports an the actual bugs which could take a little longer, but that is just my perspective @magic pebble
primal solstice
how many characters can be in one account?
coral needle
Are any of you guys currently testing alpha?
digital yacht
@primal solstice a good amount
primal solstice
@primal solstice a good amount
@digital yacht haha 4+ thats enough for me
shy ermine
Since main class can't be changed ye
coral needle
I would like to jump in and help alpha but for that price I just want to hear from some other folks to know how much feedback they're accepting and what the overall testing experience has been for others currently participating
digital yacht
@magic pebble also with a chance at having new mayors monthly imagine someone looking for “this name” but the mayor changed and he changed the name it would just be confusing
@coral needle anyone with PI is currently testing LoM will be testing soon
primal solstice
i heard there is an underrealm race , in a case that race made the node to its max level , the node will be underground or some?
primal solstice
COOL
hearty dragon
Ill let you know how the alpha runs when i get the founder pack, @digital yacht what is LoM?
digital yacht
Leader of Men is 1000$ backer
Which enters alpha one 1
Soon*
@primal solstice and u don’t have to be that race to live underground in that node
hearty dragon
I think steven said you can start at any point with any character an all classes are available to all characters right?
hasty moss
You may start at any worldgate, theres no gender or class lock
hearty dragon
Dope cheetos\
hasty moss
You unlock ur secondary at level 15 or 25 dont remember
digital yacht
Yes nothing is locked behind choices
crystal beacon
@coral needle If I am not mistaken, Alpha1 is currently closed off. The earliest you can buy into right now is Alpha2. From what some alpha guys have been saying, they are able to give a lot of input to the team.
primal solstice
yeah i get it the node mayor can change the appearance of the nodes sturctures , like if the majority of the node is dwarfs so the node will be in dwarf style , is that correct?
hasty moss
Mayor cannot change it
hearty dragon
OHHH, are you able to have other professions or do you have to choose one to max level first then can level the other ones?
digital yacht
@hearty dragon u can level them all but only one will be Abel to be mastered
hearty dragon
Dang so you have to be careful at which one you are leveling an which one you want to master
primal solstice
It changes based on the race that contributes the most XP to the level up
@simple ether ohh okie thx
hasty moss
Am i mistaken in thinking you can master one of the 3, gather, process, craft, or is it more specific in the mastery ie armorsmithing
coral needle
I will literally pay 375 to have the opportunity to play a dreadnaught and spam the devs to it a rush ability with a jumping and slamming into the ground animation
If that class gets that animation I will be subbed to this MMO for the next 40 years
hearty dragon
Ohhh so okay i get it now, i thought it ment you can only master like fishing from gathering or only mining.. i get it now thats cool
crystal beacon
@coral needle Don't let your dreams be dreams.
primal solstice
is the UI will stay as it is now? ( as i saw in the video of the 4K gameplay lately,i mean the inventory and the action skil bar and etc )
vestal scaffold
you definitely get a charge, but slam dunno
fair yew
UI is work in progress
vestal scaffold
most likely will change, but it def is lookin clean
digital yacht
EVERYTHING is WIP lol
fair yew
Well the UI needs a lot of work. they hired someone a few months ago to work on it so we should see a lot of changes to it over the course of alpha and beta
primal solstice
hows loot system will work? i mean for instance a 8 player doungen , the final boss will drop something and the first to pick it is the owner?
thats kinda risky cuz sometimes u dont realy know's the players, he can just grab it and run without a check if some1 else need it
fallow bridge
Hello, just wanted to confirm this game will support 4K?
digital yacht
@fallow bridge yes
fair yew
They are looking at different loot systems such as need before greed, loot master etc
fallow bridge
@digital yacht thank you
primal solstice
They are looking at different loot systems such as need before greed, loot master etc
@fair yew okie so its still unclear , ty
graceful mountain
Is there any roadmap until release or a best guess timeframe on release dates?
fair yew
Just alpha 1 for the fall
digital yacht
Nope only thing we know is alpha 1 is coming soon
fallow bridge
I would imagine getting elected mayor of an area would draw some viewer interest on twitch. You could almost tie a monetary value to the title. Just a thought I had.
digital yacht
I would take that to #aoc-discussion
fallow bridge
will do!
copper sphinx
Will you be able to share a freehold with your friends?
fair yew
They can visit and you can give permissions for them to access things at your freehold
fallow bridge
Is proximity voice chat a planned feature in the game?
digital yacht
Yes
fair yew
much like the housing
digital yacht
There is no “owning” a house/freehold together but u can share
copper sphinx
nice, thanks!
fallow bridge
Any sort of PvP arena ranking system planned in the game?
fair yew
They have talked about it in the past but no news really on arenas
fallow bridge
Oh cool, I like that approach
warm solstice
i just joined discord i and i can see 20 people talking, is this some kind of meeting or not?
celest ridge
Is there gonna be like a “fastest mount “ in the game like something that only people with the high enough skill to breed could get
warm solstice
how can i play beta?
celest ridge
Ok thank you
thorny summit
@warm solstice wait for 2-3 years
fair yew
Breeding can affect many things that may include mount speed
warm solstice
there will be alpha in the end of this year, isnt it?
digital yacht
@warm solstice the access to alpha 1 which starts in fall is not for sale currently but may reopen in the future
warm solstice
thanks a lot
thorny summit
It most likely won't reopen
digital yacht
^ wouldn’t say that
fair yew
Their goal for alpha 1 was 10K players which they got to their goal so it is unlikely they will open alpha 1 packages again
thorny summit
Exactly
warm solstice
how much was it?
digital yacht
400+
warm solstice
that is pretty awesome
digital yacht
As per Stevens words it’s his decision to reopen alpha 1 sales if he is satisfied with alpha 1 performance there is a chance we will reopen them it’s based on performance not chance :/
pallid fractal
I watched the two interviews and liked the idea that the GMs are more in the community, my question is that i dont know what a publisher does? Does my.com control the support and GM system in Europe?
valid tulip
In the 4K trailer we didnt see a lot of boss mechanics. Are the bosses going to be harder?
digital yacht
Yes that’s the plan
@pallid fractal they put the game out for the EU peeps that’s it
They have no control over monetization
But they do handle support as well
faint plover
When come another cosmetics?
Can i spend Embers for new cosmetics, for example for next new mount?
fair yew
it allows them to offload the hassle of EU laws and such
digital yacht
@faint plover monthly
fair yew
you will be able to use Embers for such but not right now
warm solstice
we are a group of people from world of warcraft, we really looking forward to the finished produc
faint plover
@digital yacht
@fair yew
Thank you guys :)
When? Do you think i will be able to spend embers only in game? or do you think i will be able spend embers in web shop but later?
digital yacht
In game only
faint plover
If i want another cosmetics right now, i must pay for RM?
digital yacht
Yes
celest delta
So for crafting is it a personal skill you can carry or is it a job you are given by the node?
faint plover
Thanks
digital yacht
@celest delta crafting is personal
fair yew
Crafting will be like a talent system
digital yacht
There will be node quests that u can take up to progress buildings not sure if specific quests for specific trades tho
celest delta
And can only master one right
dry thunder
will a twitch/youtube personality be able to get everything for free in the ingame shop when they have enough referals? or is it capped how much you can earn via referal?
digital yacht
@dry thunder no limit
If u have 1000referrals and they all sub u get 2.25 per sub per month
fair yew
The referral system is a bit extensive but you can do unlimited referrals
dry thunder
so basically at a certain point they can buy everything without paying a dime, that's huge
pallid fractal
So the community interaction with Intrepid and EU will be lost? I like the points of Steven about GMs being part of the community but when my.com is in charge of support and GMs the whole thing of community will be NA exclusive?
dry thunder
let's hope you will not be able to gift such items or they'll have unlimited gold as well
digital yacht
@dry thunder cosmetics do not equal in game money it’s all account bound
dry thunder
ok good, thank you
desert ivy
they cannot be traded in any way
digital yacht
@pallid fractal doubtful u will see basically the same thing as per their contract
pallid fractal
okay i hope so cause i liked the old school WoW GMs interaction with players
digital yacht
They don’t
dry thunder
if that's the case i would rather play NA with 150ms
dry thunder
ok, thanks for clarifying
echo bramble
Could someone please explain to me how different level zones work?
fair yew
Like nodes?
echo bramble
nodes are different level zones or are they all the same?
celest delta
Will there be alliances besides guilds? This game has the hunter and trader thing in it which reminds me of silkroad online
fair yew
Nodes level up causing their zone of influence to have higher level monsters and such
crystal beacon
@celest delta Another Silkroad player! Hi
I was thinking the exact same thing, lol.
fair yew
There will be alliances between guilds as well as NPC groups like a thieves guild and such
dry thunder
will there be another dev talk at the end of this month?
echo bramble
👍thank you
primal solstice
Nodes level up causing their zone of influence to have higher level monsters and such
@fair yew u mean if all the nodes are level 1 so all the creatures on map will be low level mobs?
crystal beacon
you should not be worrying bout monetization, just look how mygames handles conqueror's blade. There are more ways to frick up game then p2w elements
echo bramble
this whole month was one big dev talk 😆
dry thunder
we want moar xD
primal solstice
this whole month was one big dev talk 😆
@echo bramble give us some meat 🤣
fair yew
Not necessarily. as you come across different areas you will see higher level mobs but specifically around nodes you will see higher level monsters at a level 5 node versus a level 1 node
primal solstice
Not necessarily. as you come across different areas you will see higher level mobs but specifically around nodes you will see higher level monsters at a level 5 node versus a level 1 node
@fair yew higher lvls or spawn amount?
fair yew
higher levels
primal solstice
okay thx
dry thunder
that's what I was curious about, if someone starts later on, and maybe the first nodes where he spawns is higher tier, won't that mean monsters are too high for him to kill?
crystal beacon
i hope you are right
fair yew
so like level 30 at a level 5 node versus level 10 at a level 2 node
dry thunder
ah
strange socket
But it does unlock certain dungeons
for higher levels
This is designed to help keep lower level areas relevant and not dead zones
fair yew
yes and not all monsters level up some do
primal solstice
so if i am a level 30 for instance and my node is level 1 i should travel the nearest lvl 3 node to grind ?
digital yacht
No
faint plover
Will be channels on the server? I am scared about multiple channels with low population on each of them..
strange socket
Not necessarily
digital yacht
@faint plover no
strange socket
Depending on you or your guilds goals, you may also want to help level that lower level node
vapid loom
Has there been any sort of pattern with the preorder pack content that someone has noticed? It is exciting to see what will come moving forward and what has already come previously. It seems quite a few races have already gotten cosmetics. Tulnar next perhaps?
ocean acorn
Do we know if there will be an "energy" system to gather/process/create stuff, like archeage, or if you can gather/process/create at will, like WoW?
trail geode
Hello maybe this is a dumb question but if I were to buy one of the preorder packs, will I be able to play immediately or we are not yet on the Beta Two test phase?
vapid loom
not yet @trail geode alpha is coming up
trail geode
ohh okay thanks!
vapid loom
Alpha 1
fair yew
Margaret Krohn is the one that makes all the cosmetic packs
vapid loom
the preorder pack atm is for Alpha 2 ->
@fair yew ahh cool, thanks
some really cool stuff in them
snow storm
Hey @simple ether , what's your top 3 questions you'd want Steven to answer? I'm just wondering what the man who knows it all wants to know 🙃
fair yew
Yea shes been doing them for a good while they all look great
vapid loom
What are we still missing Arod aside from Tulnar? I feel like most have gotten some love
been going through and I see most of them, I am going to look again
dry thunder
whats arod
fair yew
good question.
vapid loom
short for Arodicus
but if Arodicus wants a wife like Jennifer Lopez we can try and make it happen
sorry questions only !
grim sparrow
When we gon' see more Tul'nar?
grim sparrow
Is A2 covered by NDA?
fair yew
once alpha 1 officially launches we should see a lift on the NDA
faint plover
Maybe this isnt good question but ....
they told something about 8000-10000 players on the server... they think totaly or in on time?
(sorry if this question is weird)
digital yacht
At the same time
proud parcel
Not high once players are spread out through the map.
faint plover
How will the servers handle it? Or does a game with such a population already exist ??
sorry, bad english 😄
i repair it
grim sparrow
Is that implementing mini sharding then to handle the additional load?
faint plover
So 10k is normal for MMORPGs?
analog fox
only mage i think?
primal solstice
only mage and fighter?
digital yacht
U will see all 8 classes in the next few months
fair yew
there isnt a lot of class footage right now. we should get a good bit in the next few months
primal solstice
U will see all 8 classes in the next few months
@digital yacht gz
full nebula
And the augments through the second class are planned for alpha 2
visual forge
Btw @simple ether will it be a definite weaponry to use with your main class? for exemple can I Tank with a 2 handed war hammer? or can i be a fighter using a shield and a sword even if he's no tank ?
fair yew
The 8 archetypes may not be available right away at alpha 1 launch. some may be released later on
digital yacht
@visual forge any class can use any weapon there might be a meta but it’s ur choice
fair yew
You can use any weapon that you want but some weapons will be better for your class
digital yacht
@visual forge but don’t expect to use ranger abilities if u aren’t wielding a bow
crystal beacon
Same for armor
visual forge
damn Fighter with wands and Bards with 2h waraxes incoming 
dry thunder
I want to be a minstrel so I can seduce a fae
remote osprey
Was there any mention of dps meters and such so far?
visual forge
@digital yacht could work with a crossbow or some spears and other throwable though 
visual forge
in term of Rp*
primal solstice
armor and weapons can get + , i mean no stats benefits just level the gear with some scroll or craft ?
opaque pivot
@dense bronze imagine tank getting aggro with a fkin wand
digital yacht
@visual forge could be possible
rocky bear
@opaque pivot or with a guitar xD
visual forge
Tank: "Your dickus is ridiculus" Dragon: What did you say you little sh*t?!
analog fox
They were talking about performance and things, did they say anything about ways to know if you're doing decent individually, or do you have to go by how fast you're killing stuff
digital yacht
@analog fox u will have to determine that ur self
main ridge
Will you need to be a citizen of a level 5 scientific node for artisan mastery qualification?
digital yacht
No? Doubt it
main ridge
Or can you be from outside the ZOI and still get artisan mastery?
fair yew
So far they haven't mentioned having to be a part of a specific node to master your professions
stuck nacelle
Will teleportation only be available via max level scientific nodes or will powerful mages also be able to open long range portals/teleport more people somewhere?
fair yew
Only scientific nodes
primal solstice
armor and weapons can get + ?
i mean no stats benefits just level the gear with some scroll or craft ?
@primal solstice
fair yew
There isn't any other fast travel planned
main ridge
Can different characters be citizens of different nodes? e.g. main is a citizen of merchant metropolis, alt 1 is citizen of scientific metropolis
Just the guild then, got it.
Does that also apply to social orgs?
broken kraken
IDK if this has been asked before, it probably has but here it goes anyway
will there be an option to not show cosmetics? as a player who enjoys immersion in a game skins are very outputting
fair yew
yes
slow sky
@simple ether you will have a family if limited number of people and can summon them in a limited capacity to you. So technically yes you can fast travel this way too
primal solstice
there will be a player inspect? i mean to see what gear he gots..
yes
like flyff
ashen orchid
Oh great library of Jahlon, is there any info on whether spears will only be 2Handed or 1Handed variants? I didn't see anything in the wiki.
fair yew
not throwable though
scenic owl
Strange that you can block people from seeing your equipment, especially in parties (if they exist)
formal ravine
hey guys, new this week...asked a question about sticky targeting and movement etc while targeting....but i have questions about what we know about the combat system in general. I've watched the videos and understand their plan but for someone who has played WoW, lineage, ESO, EQ, BDO, GW2, and others I feel like the combat system is INTEGRAL to the longevity and overall playability of the game (opinion not fact). i'd like to reiterate my targeting question i posted yesterday in the discussion channel if thats alright?
primal solstice
whats do you think will be the avg age of players? i mean i dont the only 1 here 25 , am i? 🤣
scenic owl
I'm 22, so you'll be alright
dry thunder
Will the Potiongun be a thing or was it x'd
primal solstice
not so into it that okie 😛
deft dragon
@formal ravine I'd like to hear your targeting question because it sounds like I may be interested in the answer if anyone has one
digital yacht
@dry thunder yea it’s still a thing
fair yew
They combat system is currently planed to be a hybrid tab target or action combat system.
sullen nimbus
know anything about Tier Magic?
digital yacht
Define tier magic
deft dragon
his question sounds more specific than that, though
primal solstice
critical dmg will knock back the mob? u know regular one not elite or boss
strange socket
whether or not you can change the level you're using is unknown
grave dirge
Does anybody know when the cosmetics in the packages change? Is there a set date?
primal solstice
is every class have the abillity of aoe grind?( in case that class not suppurtive)
sullen nimbus
Okei, so will it only lvl up when you use one of three point or will it also lvl up with you?
hasty moss
Its the choice between more skills or stronger skills, right?
grave dirge
@simple ether Appreciate it!
dry thunder
will there be murlocs?
hasty moss
aha! i pay attention to my 101 lectures 😛
primal solstice
jahlon thx man , good bye
flint ibex
will you be free to re spec your skills like whenever you want or will there be costs associated with it?
coral needle
Okay final question before I probably get the alpha. I am incredibly interested in the fighter/tank subclass "dreadnaught". I imagine in my mind a shardplate weater from the stormlight archive book series when I picture that gameplay. I would really like to help the devs feel out that class and the abilities/overall feel of it. If i join alpha will i get assigned a class or can i specifically help with that one? I know its what I will be playing and im passionate about helping in any way i can to make it feel satisfying and fun to play.
flint ibex
ok, thanks
hasty moss
@flint ibex theyve said you can change secondary but will be hard to do so
so perhaps similar for skills?
strange socket
I think the ability to change too often kind of ruins the identity of your characters
not a huge fan
flint ibex
i mean your active skills like which ones you pick, not your class or sub class
slow sky
@coral needle keep in mind we have no grasp at when sub archetypes will be implemented. Alpha 1 is coming up in the next couple of months and will only have the base 8 Primary archetypes
flint ibex
but jahlon answered it
and this whole getting corrupted thing only triggers on kills right? So if someone wanted to be a dick he could flag up and tag you for some damage and not get any "negative" points right?
fallow bridge
Will the alphas have an NDA?
slow sky
No they will not
fallow bridge
@slow sky thats good news, I like the transparecny
slow sky
The alpha ls confirmed no NDA and is free to be streamed/media shared
hasty moss
the verbal nda was lifted for the last testing, i believe theres a summary document floating around somewherer
fickle hawk
As someone from eu who bought the package from the us site before i knew the eu difference do i have aproblem now
sullen nimbus
Example: have the power to remove status effects, such as mind control, from any target.
digital yacht
No u can migrate when the time comes @fickle hawk
plucky pawn
@digital yacht we can spot some important info in that if you wanna remove it 😉
digital yacht
😉
fickle hawk
ooh thanks @digital yacht
ashen orchid
Toast quick on the draw there 😄
plucky pawn
just didn't think you wanted anyone signing you up for weird email lists 🤣
dry thunder
oh no i should have read the small print
digital yacht
It was my email address she was referring to lol
If it was anything game related she woulda removed it herself
ashen orchid
@digital yacht I figured that. that Ymail address was very prominent.
plucky pawn
indeed!
dry thunder
faster than the own shadow
tough sierra
in the wiki it talks about the abilities each main archetype gets, are these all the abilities or just an example of what the class gets?
i.e on the tank i see 8
desert ivy
No, it's not all the abilities
All the classes are still in development so nothing you see regarding classes is complete
digital yacht
There is more those aren’t even 100% going to be the actual abilities either those are from a while back
proud island
Anyone know if there is any good info about the decision around making costumes as single items that override an entire appearance instead of breaking them up into individual pieces?
slow sky
8 can feel pretty good some classes in Tera only use that many and all classes are insanely fun
digital yacht
@proud island there is both
sullen nimbus
Know anything about World items? Example: have the power to remove status effects, such as mind control, from any target.
tough sierra
any news on a system like WoW's transmogrification? i.e overlapping the appearance of one armour with another
fampy that sounds familiar
turbid shell
Anyone wanna sponsor wholly, or in part, for a Voyager Plus Package?? lol
tough sierra
aint that from overlord @sullen nimbus
sullen nimbus
it is
tough sierra
kekkin i see you
fallow bridge
Coming from a position of "causiously optimistic" what development milestones have been delivered upon so far?
tough sierra
give an example of a development milestone
fallow bridge
Umm, I guess like server testing?
sullen nimbus
Okei, what about treasure hunting any info on that?
tough sierra
well, the alpha 1 is coming out later this year @fallow bridge
the devs have been as open as it gets about what's going on
combat has been tested
fallow bridge
Yeah that good to hear. I'm definately in the optimistic camp
ashen orchid
@fallow bridge There was a test early on of Action Combat and the servers, known as Apocalypse. Which was a BR style gameplay for the devs to test things. They were very open about the outcomes of that and how it effected development.
tough sierra
The dev also isnt pushing any sort of pre-release buy package
he has open said to 'wait and see' and to not feel pressured to support
if nothing else, their confidence in the product is enough for me
hasty moss
@fallow bridge heres a more graphically comparison, courtesy of Jahlon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cayQZ86xr2I
fallow bridge
I've jumped on every MMO bandwagon for the past 15 years haha, so I'm trying to approach things with realistic expectations
slow sky
Seeing the development over 3 years has killed any skepticism i had going into the KS they have made progress and the pre-alpha nearly 2 hour gameplay footage shows how far it really come
fallow bridge
@hasty moss thanks for the link!
ashen orchid
@fallow bridge A good way to go about it. Realize that a lot of people here are already on the bandwagon, so many do have a bias for the game.
lofty verge
any leader of men (kickstarter) here?
i want to know if you are alrdy testing A0
digital yacht
@lofty verge we are not but our emails weee jsut sent out
Meaning Soon
@lofty verge and it’s not A0 it’s alpha 1
But PreA1
slow sky
tough sierra
Sorry if this is a more common question, but beyond A1 is there any timeline for A2 and forward, perhaps a planned release window?
tropic jolt
Do we have any idea when Alpha starts?
lofty verge
and braver of worlds get an e-mail to?
digital yacht
@tropic jolt fall 2020
tropic jolt
Ooo
digital yacht
@lofty verge no they come after LoM
lofty verge
dammit 😉
tropic jolt
What about Beta?
storm shell
do we have any idea how much the subscription will be???
hasty moss
15
slow sky
14.99
storm shell
a month?
digital yacht
@tropic jolt beta is far away
slow sky
Yes
digital yacht
Alpha 1 then alpha 2
lofty verge
as a teacher its hard ... ive got holidays and my girlfriend i mean exgirlfriend moved out. so i got so many time ...
so hard to wait
slow sky
No box cost, no expansion cost, just a monthly sub fee of $14.99
tropic jolt
I'm trying to convince myself to opt in for Alpha 😄
hasty moss
currently you can only buy into alpha 2
storm shell
does that mean the expansion is free then
hasty moss
alpha 1 packages closed in 2018
slow sky
Correct
tropic jolt
Any idea when A2 starts?
digital yacht
@storm shell yea nothing will be sold after launch besides cosmetics
slow sky
Sometime 2021
digital yacht
@tropic jolt after alpha 1
tropic jolt
Makes sense
storm shell
this might be a longshot but are there quests for specific weapons like in destiny
digital yacht
Unknown
hasty moss
i believe in the PI alpha 1 testing there was, but going forward its unsure
slow sky
Alpha 1 hasn’t started though
hasty moss
the alpha 1 available to the PI, and soon LoM
kindred stag
Phoenix Initiative
slow sky
Yeah I’m PI
limber sundial
So have the emails been sent out for leaders of men for the next round of testing in August already?
surreal elk
@limber sundial yes, we received an email
limber sundial
Nice. If someone upgrades from braver off worlds to leader of men right now are they still eligible to get into this next round of testing or has that ship sailed already?
desert ivy
You'll be able to get in still
digital yacht
Yea but u won’t be guaranteed to get the email right away @limber sundial
Since umissed the initial wave u might even have to go thru support
limber sundial
Ok, I'm really considering the upgrade but besides the testing, I think it's mostly guild related bonuses (and the angel/ demon skin)
minor prawn
how does one find their kickstarter backer?
limber sundial
I think leader of men was around $1000
slow sky
If you supported the kickstarter just login on the ashes website and you can upgrade your Ks pack in the storer by paying the difference
tulip hatch
If you log into kickstarter you can find what you pledged and if you click on it itll tell you your backer number
short flame
question is when does alpha 2 start so i can play ahha
slow sky
Sometime 2021
short flame
Ripo XD
minor prawn
so i bought a regular package then upgraded on ashes to leader of men for the access. would that reflect on kickstarter?
tulip hatch
Upgrades will not be reflected on Kickstarter
slow sky
Most likely not. It should reflect on your ashes account thouhh
minor prawn
then does that kickstarter number shown on the ashes website?
tulip hatch
If youre looking for the contents of your package you can locate that on your profile page in the inventory
minor prawn
should i just put my kickstarter number in the slot for that since thats probaly the lowest package or the tracking number for my upgrade to leader of men?
slow sky
Im confused as to where this is trying to go
stuck nacelle
Will it be possible to obtain game time purely by playing (so you can let's say gain enough in-game money to buy 1 months worth of access time)?
minor prawn
ive already upgraded i just got my email for LoM alpha test and it wants my kickstarter number. but i initially got the lowest package then upgraded to LoM on ashes website
scenic owl
Do characters reset on release?
slow sky
Unlike wow expansions will be free so the $15 sub is the only entree fee
plucky pawn
@minor prawn Heya! Go ahead and provide your original KS number there please
You can also explain to us about your upgrade in the description box, but we should also be able to tell from your account!
vital wave
Once the game hits beta will their be cheaper packs availble?
minor prawn
@plucky pawn ok thank you!
ashen orchid
@scenic owl Characters could very well reset a few times between A1 and release
crystal beacon
I dont know if this is the right place but i cannot find my kickstarter backer number anymore because i dont have access to my old mail anymore
slow sky
Though there will be headstart servers that get 2 days playtime before launch with heavy restrictions during the 2 days play
Such as level 10 cap and no node progression
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon check out our helpful article here for another way to grab that KS number: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035258254
crystal beacon
thanks
worn wing
Will there be underground nodes?
stuck nacelle
just to be clear 15$ sub fee means 15$/month subscription, correct?
crystal beacon
i just received my lom mail, do i need a passport or id to sign the nda?
slow sky
@worn wing yes
@stuck nacelle correct, other than that there’s nothing you will need to pay to play.
stable plover
@vital wave There will be some opportunities to win beta keys, when the game goes live it's just a 15$/monthly sub, no box cost
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon Go ahead and fill out the form we linked in that email and our team will follow up if there's any other info needed
exotic fjord
will races be predominant for each skill?, like will the best crafters be on dwarf
slow sky
Races will have base stat impacts but nothing skill wise will be impacted by race
vital wave
Thanks
exotic fjord
bet
glass bluff
I'm looking to get the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack, but the store frontend is horrible and the png showing the goodies is far too tiny. Is there a larger image of what is all included in the pack?
slow sky
But thats jot anything that is inherently affected without opting into those augments
Not*
dry thunder
man I hate past me for not backing the kickstarter
tough sierra
What will the game have in terms of crows control? i.e stuns, slows, mind control, polymorph, etc
and what defenses will the players have against these in pvp situations
glass bluff
@simple ether Thanks!
tough sierra
what do you consider the difference between a hard and soft CC
also it's nice to know the harsher stuff will be avoidable
stuck nacelle
just to make sure: there will be no option of one time payment instead of sub, correct?
pity :/
earnest parcel
soft cc is root hard cc is stun
slow sky
Lifetime sub was Kickstarter exclusive reward unfortunately @stuck nacelle
copper hound
They should make a single purchase no online features lul
stuck nacelle
oof. lifetime sub for $485 😅 .
digital yacht
@stuck nacelle 400$ at the lowest 500$ and the highest for that tier
limber sundial
I splurged at the time to get the lifetime and really glad I did now
tough sierra
that's around 3 years, aka 1/4th the time ive been paying for WoW minus the box costs
plus the box costs*
id take that
digital yacht
@tough sierra im sure you’ve played league of legends but picture this a slow is a soft cc bc u can still move and use abilities but a stun is hard cc becuz u can no longer move or cast abilities
stuck nacelle
Really would have loved an one-time payment option on this 😢
tough sierra
right, i understand it now, just never had it explained as hard and soft
just blanket CC
digital yacht
There is just a one time payment every month 😉 @stuck nacelle
tough sierra
is there any plan for extended payments at a lower price, aka buying 6 months at a time for something like 13$ a month
like WoW has
tough sierra
there ya go Berci, just buy the largest each go around and youll be saving money
copper hound
Would you take a one time payment that costs three years to get money's worth on sub alone hypothetically? That's just an extended version of a one year plan
tough sierra
if i knew how long id be playing WoW i'd've taken the 500$
its about how much you believe in the product
hollow drift
Could someone enlighten me on this "2020 Monthly Cosmetics" that i see on the website, its only available to people who already purchased a pack of some sort?
copper hound
Sure, but buyers remorse can happen Chaos
limber sundial
@copper hound it's the cosmetic and early playtime bonuses that make up the rest of the value
tough sierra
course it can, i imagine less than 1% of people would take that option
but it was made cause people are willing, i imagine
copper hound
You hit a bad expansion and quit because you feel robbed of 500
tough sierra
but if it has a revival at any time your spot is already locked in
copper hound
Sure, but that's no longer 5 years
tough sierra
aye, I agree paying that much has more risk then reward
limber sundial
@hollow drift you can still buy those packages without the need to have bought into the crowd funding campaigns
plucky pawn
@hollow drift The packages you see available in the Shop have cosmetic items that rotate out on a regular basis - if you purchase a pack this month, it comes with the cosmetics pictured, and then allows you to grab the equivalent tiers in future months on an individual basis
dry thunder
Are race skills beneficial to pvp?
limber sundial
@hollow drift if you have bought into them already, you can buy individual cosmetics from the monthly selections
earnest parcel
To any dev willing to respond, i was looking at the weapon designs on the wiki and i was wondering if theyre going to be like that on release?
digital yacht
@dry thunder can’t answer as we don’t have the full spectrum of stat allocation and abilities/skills
@earnest parcel everything is subject to change
hollow drift
@limber sundial Yeah haven't done that, spend hundreds of euro's in the past on several mmo's with a let down so i was just waiting a bit, but after the interview with asmongold I'm sold and need one of those packages and im a sucker for cosmetics.
@plucky pawn these cosmetics are they gone for good once a month has passed or will they come back?
Basicly i have to purchase a pack and then i get extra to extra cosmetics right?
tough sierra
will abilities like the tank's rank 2 hatred also cause player opponents to force target them
slow sky
Will we know what stats are affected by the races? One thing that bugs me in Phantasy Star is race and gender impacts stats while not really important at end game still are stats i like to min/max and the game doesn’t tell you anywhere what changes
hollow drift
Alright gotcha, I was looking at the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack the skins in this pack are these the ones changed on a monthly bases? like if i wait another month another skin collection will be there, or are these always the same and you just get the option to buy the monthly skins additionaly
tough sierra
Also, will the races have racial abilities/traits linked to only their race? Such as dwarves getting a bonus to mining, for example
stable plover
@slow sky We don't know if the game will specifically point it out, but it won't be too hard for the community to figure out even if the game doesn't show it on char creation page.
mighty tapir
lol
deft dragon
facials lol
tough sierra
but they will exist
stable plover
@tough sierra Not passives, but there will be racial augments that compete with secondary archetype/social augments
plucky pawn
@earnest parcel everything you've seen so far in images, videos, etc. is a WIP that will continue to be refined with your help testing!
tough sierra
@stable plover forgive the ping but that actually sounds like quite a big deal
if being compared to secondary archetypes
digital yacht
@tough sierra it’s something that will be tested to know for a fact if it affects things drastically or if it’s miniscule
plucky pawn
@hollow drift That's correct, the skins in that pack are the ones that change on a monthly basis - and once they're gone they're gone. It'll be a different pet/costume/etc. in there next month but if you get the package this month, you'll be able to get next month's items on an individual basis, vs. having to get them as part of the whole package
earnest parcel
i would like to make a simple request of a two handed one headed axe like you have for the one hands but two handed. That is all.
fallow bridge
Any ideas on the physical location of the servers? I live in canada and we typically see 60+ms pings
hollow drift
@plucky pawn Great 🙂 that's all i need to know
glass bluff
@hollow drift Just bought the pack myself, so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that once you buy that pack, you get ACCESS to being able to purchase subsequent packs as well, if you so desire.
digital yacht
@fallow bridge there will be East West maybe central
Exact location is not known
@glass bluff purchases subsequent single cosmetics
fallow bridge
Okay, fingers crossed for something northern I guess
plucky pawn
@glass bluff correct, if you buy one of the lower tier packs, you will also be able to upgrade it for the difference
digital yacht
U won’t need to purchase the pack again
strange socket
i wish i could buy my way into alpha 1 😦
hollow drift
@glass bluff Yeah basically i should have bought the pack in 2018 when i considered buying it and would have accumulated a box full of skins on this point
slow sky
formal ravine
if we purchase the pack with the alpha does that get us in at the end of the year?
strange socket
no
hollow drift
did sign up my email in 2017 tho i believe
glass bluff
@hollow drift Hindsight's 20/20, right? Well, here's to the future!
strange socket
Alpha 1 is closed now, any purchased now get you into alpha 2 in 2021
tough sierra
What's stopping players from attacking a non-combatant player to low health over and over, basically making them unable to level but not outright killing them
opaque pivot
I got a question guys, for example it's said that the primary archetype does make you do your role in a group. But there's sth like cleric Rogue which is a shadow disciple, by RP nature they wouldn't heal would they? (judging the classname here)
IF so wouldn't the nature of the cleric kind of be changed? Or in other words couldn't you make a non healing set? (in terms of skill/augments)
strange socket
@tough sierra probably nothing
@tough sierra The only real threat would be another player looking for pvp
limber sundial
@plucky pawn ashes artists like turtles? I've seen quite a few turtle mounts already haha