ty @hidden crane 🙂
#questions
dry thunder
hidden crane
Atm 90% of EU is on Intrepid, all of us will migrate later
So make an intrepid account in peace
Dont forget to apply referral code
if you have any friends etc
amber crater
i dont XD
dry thunder
I did, thanks
desert ivy
Am I your friend bb gurl
digital yacht
no
raven grotto
The racial skin add on things... are those playable races or is it gonna be like.. you pick race X and you can make race X look like the Add on?
quasi karma
@simple ether are dungeons more like a maze or linear?
dusk kayak
Has the beta 2 test phase date been said yet?
slow sky
No
midnight crag
Can someone have a melee and a ranged weapon at the same time? so if they aren't a ranged person they can pull 1 mob at a time more effectively
nice
stable plover
@raven grotto Your Dwarf/orc looks like X
uneven iron
just purchased and want to confirm currently beta one test phase hasnt started yet correct?
crystal flax
Correct, the closest phase is Alpha 1
uneven iron
sweet just wanted to make sure i didnt miss out when i purchased it 🙂
im suuuuuuuuuuuuper stoked for this WoW has been killing my mood for so long this has me excited
solar harbor
Yeah I'm about done trying to get the manta ray mount sigh
uneven iron
as many years as its been... WoW went downhill when the WoW dev team was no longer the team lolol
but that was all lfor my question thank you so much for the fast response!
solar harbor
:3
uneven iron
<--- dont want to spam questions XP
fickle bane
I purchased the 150.00 package, any idea on when I will be able to access the game?
mighty tapir
at least a year
hollow widget
Instead of being an inhabitant of a village, city or otherwise, would there be a system in place to be a nomad untied to cities but still get acces to them? Perhaps even camping in the wild?
midnight crag
Is there an underrealm castle?
stable plover
@hollow widget You could do that, you'd avoid any node war involvement that way as some sort of traveling merchant - but good luck having a place to store your stuff then ;p
deft stone
Would secondary augmentation stuff be ready by A1 or is it looking for more down the line?
tacit juniper
If I'm EU and I want to buy the very first pack (wayfarer) should I buy it on the NA site or the EU one?
and If I buy it in intrepid and then I want to migrate to my.games will I still have what i bought?
ok, thx
fickle hawk
if i preorder on aoc site do i have any problems as a person from europe
frosty pike
Hi, is it still possible to play apocalypse ?
deft stone
Is there a way for skill points to be reset, say if you went too deep and you instead want to go wide?
frosty pike
Thanks
stable plover
@deft stone At least in pre-alpha there is, not sure what the final intent is but I'd assume it'd still be possible with some sort of cost
ruby pewter
Just wanted to confirm what steven said on Asmon stream that you can pick event times so is 3PM EST a thing?
deft stone
Kewl. Yeah it'd make sense to have a higher cost so it isn't a decision made lightly.
earnest spindle
@ruby pewter 3pm to 7pm is what he said on stream
ruby pewter
I see okay thanks
sleek cloud
Are questions being taken at this time about visual options for characters? (No, not genital sliders, i'm being serious.)
earnest spindle
i was wondering what the anti grief there will because i know corruption will be a thing but what will stop a group from just deciding they dont like you and killing you over and over?
gray lily
Is there going to be a way to reserve guild names / in-game names before beta?
sleek cloud
I'm wondering if things like hair/eye color, general body mass sliders for more muscular/more slender, all within each race's build parameters, etc. Nothing super complex, and maybe not even sliders but presets, i'd appreciate any clarity on those kinds of things.
Just as an example, let's say I want green hair (I don't), would I be able to do that as my character's natural hair color, would be be race dependent, not possible, etc?
gray lily
Gotcha 👍
deft stone
That does sound great. Would love to have the ability to be more gender neutral in creation.
deft dragon
I feel like if 3pm-6pm ET was possible I'd just have to go play on a PT server so I could actually be online at 3pm if someone wanted to siege then
raven grotto
damnit.. now i might have to upgrade so i can get the angel/demon race options 😅
deft dragon
right what I'm saying is my time, 3 pm I don't know anyone who can do that, so you'd have to play in a different time zone server to make it work
could you do that? I assume yes?
sleek cloud
I mean...i'm personally looking to make a grey/silver haired max-muscular Ren'Kai orc or Kaelar human who wields two-handed great axes, wears plate armor, and crusades in the name of the goddess of love.... 😛
deft dragon
lol I agree...something like 6-10 makes more sense so hopefully they review that
severe ferry
If combat is balanced around 8x8, will it be possible to 1v2 1v3 in an open world situation? Will the skill cap of the combat make that possible?
I remember playing Ablion Online and the combat aside from 5v5s was 100% rock paper scissors, main reason i quit that game
sleek cloud
@deft dragon What I think it'll be is that the time frame starts at 3, because that's when schools generally get out, and kids get home, and goes to 7 because by then most day job workers are home, and that's the timeframe to declare, then once declared it'll give time to prepare, and bring people on, etc.
Ah
Then I do agree that needs some revision
midnight crag
does the normal xp debt system have a passive lowering of your debt?
sleek cloud
Even just thinking culturally across the different continents the game's releasing in, the different servers would have varying peak times.
midnight crag
so if you die 50x on a quest your screwed? or is there a cap to damage mitigation?
sleek cloud
Domo, if you die 50x on a quest, you shouldn't be on that quest.
crystal flax
After the 3rd or 4th death, you should be figuring out what's going wrong
It should never get to 50 deaths in a row
midnight crag
just trying to figure out how far it goes lol
sleek cloud
I would assume you can debt yourself back at least one level, if not to 0 exp, and you'd have to earn it all back to start progressing again.
Who wants to reach max level, then debt back to 0 exp? XD
Okay, another question. Will alpha/beta testers be on the same map as the release game? Obviously the world map would be the same, but will nodes be modified? Will castles be in the same location? Obviously it's alpha/beta so things are prone to change, a lot, but will the general landmarks, sans a major redesign of a portion of map, be the same?
digital yacht
right now they are on "alpha island" which is basically a smaller version of the full map
minor things are prob changed but thats about it
raven grotto
question about the "upgrade to leader of men package" it says: (Kickstarter pledge ONLY): Kickstarter Exclusive - Demonic / Angelic and more stuff and then it says (Summer Crowdfunding pledge ONLY): with the elemental race options... does that mean you get all 4 or that you only get the summer version? o. O
sleek cloud
That's good. One thing i'm personally very excited about is being able to learn about the game, from what nodes around castles i'd want to aim for pushing to metropolis, to where the preferable (understandably subject to change) gathering/quest locations are within those desired starting nodes, etc. I'm certain the information won't perfectly translate over, but if I can get even a little more of a grasp of the situation, that's valuable.
crystal flax
If you had an original KS pack, you get the KS ones
If you have a summer backing, you get the elementals
stable plover
@raven grotto It's 2 different versions - 1 of those packs gives angel/demon one gives fire/ice elemental
raven grotto
Do you tell them which version you want or ?
crystal flax
Check what I had said
sleek cloud
Ahh, I was unaware the nodes had set types! That's even better. I plan to attempt raising a Divine node to metropolis, so that's actually very valuable information to me XD
raven grotto
thank you
crystal flax
If you were part of the summer backing you missed out on the angel/demon skins, but if you were part of KS, you'd see the elementals as a separate purchasable like so @raven grotto
raven grotto
I sure do thank you
crystal beacon
Do you guys have any idea how long the beta test phases will last?
crystal flax
The beta phases will be short ones, because they're more in line with what an actual beta should be instead of what you traditionally get with MMO betas
crystal beacon
@crystal flax like a weekend? I've got a pretty busy schedule and was hoping to be able to play over the course of a week or two
digital yacht
alphas long betas short
betas prob a month max
but we wont know til the time comes
crystal beacon
also coming from the asmongold stream, this game looks incredible!
stone pike
Okey, so, one thing for me in mmos that I dislike are transmogs and those "costumes" you can get for paying irl money. I was wondering. How does it work. When you have pre purchased the game you get some costumes. When the game fully releases and when you start at lvl. 1. Will you immediately get to wear that armor (costume) or are there some requirements that you need first. Dont get me wrong. I love the concept of this game and would love to support it in other ways like making the game cost and not be free. But when you see some dude that did nothing and suddenly just has the most epic armor (costumes). It kinda ruins the immersion and the sense of accomplishments. I dont know if im the only one but when I see someone with the most epic gear I want to admire him not just brush it to the side and think "damn he spent alot of money".
????
crystal flax
There will be things you can earn in game that will be just as epic and cool looking, and you'll be able to differentiate them between store bought and not
So you know who really earned things or not
stone pike
damn
forest dome
Looking epic won't help you if you're getting 1 tapped by legendary McGee though 😉
stone pike
then you would have to played all the game already to know witch items are what
ye true
it is what it is
forest dome
They've gotta make money some how and this way is better than other ways
So you're right, it is what it is
stone pike
ye
Just wake me up from my super futurama hibernation ice capsule when the game releases
cant wait
stable plover
@stone pike There's a 'default' appearance option available, that makes everyone appear in a base cloth/leather/plate set to get a very general idea of what they're wearing.
sleek cloud
@stone pike Maybe think of it like "Damn, that person really helped out the devs, and is a major factor behind how the dev team can remain large, and the servers remain stable" when looking at cash shop/pre order cosmetics.
stable plover
@stone pike People will be able to hide their gear using cosmetic slots just putting in other pieces of gear not from the cosmetic shop in terms of PvP info tells as well btw
flat scaffold
do the game have a labor function like in archeage ?
ruby swift
Nope
flat scaffold
good
crude lotus
I normally play on NA Servers instead of EU servers in other MMOs due to working late/starting late and NA friends. Event timers usually work out better for me. So my question.. has there been any news about event timers? for seiges etc? Thanks in advance
stone pike
yeah ill try to do that. Dont get me wrong im gonna buy that to support them
ruby swift
Can get you the quote if you need. Steven does not like the labor.
crystal flax
@crude lotus Sieges will happen in the server's prime time
warm grove
does anyone know what PvP "events" like the GvG and caravan attacks and flagged PvP, are going to be where you are "Corrupted" and lose equips?
stable plover
@crude lotus The major server event timers are meant to fire at a 'prime time' for the server that the servers will be labeled with, Intrepid won't stop you from playing on US servers from EU
@warm grove You won't get corrupt in 'sanctioned' PvP events
ruby swift
@warm grove Corruption mechanics only apply to open world "non-sanctioned" pvp
crude lotus
Any ideas if they are taking into consideration east and west coast time difference?
ruby swift
@crude lotus They are
warm grove
ok
sleek cloud
I'm actually going to be moving to asia soon for work for a while, not sure if i'll still be there when the game launches, but i'll likely still be playing on NA, the no region lock for servers is something i'm ecstatic about.
ruby swift
Yep, I am in Asia atm and will be playing NA, so I feel you.
crude lotus
@ruby swift Good to hear.. lastly, any ideas if they plan on east and west coast servers or a balance inbetween?
ruby swift
They have not finalized server locations, but that is pretty much a given.
sleek cloud
East/central/west most likely
crude lotus
Thank god, current MMO i play they havent taken east and west into consideration so half the server left because events dont match up. Its good to hear AoC are taking this into account. Thanks for the info guys!
sleek cloud
Okay. New question. I heard Steven mention something called a family system, that kinda went alongside the marriage system, and i'm assuming it works like bringing your friends in as brothers/sisters, to have access to the summoning, etc. Do we have any definite information on that system yet? I can't find anything about it on the main wiki, and i'm very very interested in learning the plans for it.
stable plover
@sleek cloud I think yesterday was the most we've heard about the family system ;p It's been mentioned before but not in much detail.
desert warren
How can someone get a key to the Alpha testing?
stable plover
@sleek cloud This is probably related
"Marriage may unlock different activities that are not available to characters who are not married.
Interaction with the freehold system.
Unlocking certain node quests.
Impacts on social organizations.
Other mechanics will be discussed in the future."
digital yacht
buy it or win it
sleek cloud
Thank you. I'll have to keep an eye out for it, then. MMORPGs to me are all about community, and building a community within that community. I'm almost always a guild/alliance leader in every game I play, and that system looks to be very promising if it's fleshed out.
crude lotus
@simple ether Good to hear, thanks again for the info!
desert warren
How do you buy / win it?
digital yacht
buyt it on website
win it when the giveaways become available
thru streamers or discord
stable plover
I think they've given out one alpha 1 key in a previous years Halloween contest, I think they've currently only mentioned beta keys for upcoming contests
ruby swift
The keys provided by Intrepid to CC and streamers will most likely be beta keys, so don't wait on alpha giveaways.
vale dragon
is tehre a launcher that i can install the game or something like that? i cant find it on the hompage
desert warren
The first alpha test will be at the end of this year correct?
ruby swift
@vale dragon If you have account access you are able to download the launcher. If you are not available to access current testing it is not an option.
stable plover
@vale dragon The games not currently available for DL/testing -- Full alpha 1 isn't starting until sometime in fall, the LoM will receive an email with instructions about next months test.
desert warren
And all keys for A1 are given out.. but they are looking to inviting 10k more people
digital yacht
no, all 10k keys have a person assigned to them
sleek cloud
Alrighty. Next question, slightly more light hearted this time. Will players be able to become something akin to a religion's pope with enough effort and questing? I plan to make religion a major part of my progression, and am interested if the devs have released plans for what might be the natural player gate for that line of progression.
digital yacht
but have yet to be handed out
molten bramble
I have accepted I will not get alpha but I hope I can get beta. 😇 😇 😇
digital yacht
@sleek cloud u can be a "pope" if u are a mayor of a Divine node lol
by callingurself the pope
sleek cloud
Well, what a coinkydink that I intend to focus my alliance's influence on raising a metropolis divine node for the goddess of love 😛 Pope of Love here I come.
lapis sinew
Hello, I'm in the need of a further explanation on corruption and open world PvP, specifically on a "Combatant" killing a "Non Combatant". Now I'm aware that what exactly happens in this scenario is on the website which I've read but I have concerns. Say for example I'm alone maybe my guild mates are offline or I'm just having a hard time finding one so I'm running alone. If I go and gather all these "raw materials" to craft some gear I've been working at for a while and someone comes along that's of the gabker variety, Kills me and I don't fight according to the website regardless if i dont fight back at all I'll still lose a portion of those raw materials I've been gathering. So my question is, is that portion insignificant to the amount I've been gathering as a whole and is his penalty enough that he cant just sit there killing me 3 or 4 times. Also I've heard travel usually takes some time due to minimal flight paths and no fast travel so will i be be walking for a long time to get back to my body or are their graveyard like in WoW
crystal flax
I don't think it'll be like in WoW where you have to go back to your body, I think you just respawn so after the first death you'd be away with your remaining goods
digital yacht
@lapis sinew i dont think exact percentages according to how much or a set percentage yet
soft magnet
Do we know if A1 goes back on sale how much it will be
sleek cloud
$5000, and your firstborn
digital yacht
before*
ruby swift
Nope, but probably will have parity to previous worth.
digital yacht
@soft magnet not a 100% chance it will be back on sale so be wary
true pecan
So everyone that backed the kickstarter with any amount can upgrade their pledge?
digital yacht
yes
true pecan
if so how many times and to what tier?
crystal flax
As long as it was an actual tier
digital yacht
^
crystal flax
To whatever tier you feel like going up to
true pecan
Ah then i probably don't apply
I tried backing it with 25$ but my bank wouldnt let me so i did 10.,
soft magnet
Wish I knew when A2 and B1 were coming out ahhh I wanna give my money lol
lapis sinew
Just to make sure I have this right. If I DONT fight back I'll lose more of me resources if I did. And the respawning won't be right on top of my body? If that's the case camping would be hard which is good.
ruby swift
@true pecan Here are the tiers. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1791529601/ashes-of-creation-new-mmorpg-by-intrepid-studios
crystal flax
I think you had asked about that earlier yea 
While you did back on the KS, you don't actually have a KS package to upgrade @true pecan
lapis sinew
Ok thank you
true pecan
I mean i have the original pledge i tried to make in my email.
it was just refunded by the bank not me.
ruby swift
Oh yeah, I remember that. If you don't have a package, you SooL. MK answered that one.
crystal flax
Not something Intrepid can really help with unfortunately
I believe Jahlon was in a similar boat, KS didn't take his payment so he was out of luck too
Oh there he is
ruby swift
Nope, because they literally have no record of you.
true pecan
They do though.
I still pledged the $10 one and have the receipt from the kickstarter.
scenic aspen
Hey, sorry if this have been asked a million times, but after looking at how nodes works with upgrades etc. how will that affect new players who may first join the game a year or two after release, especially if that node have a lot of danger to it after being level'ed up a lot? I love the idea of each node having its very own "history" of sorts but I can also see how new players which are late to the game may feel left out or never experience the thrill of leveling and developing a node.
Will there be historians which can write the lore/history of a node so new players can discover the history and can you by chance use propaganda to make your node look better than it is?
Is there going to be node resets/seasons on some servers?
ruby swift
Thus you do not have a package to upgrade.
digital yacht
yea u werent pledging to a package u were just donating a certain amt unfrtunately
no resets
all player decided
true pecan
Oh i get that but saying they don't have a record of me is kind of a lie but oh well.
ruby swift
I remember you from last year. You got this escalated all the way to customer service and they told you no. So you can go for round 2, but I bet the answer hasn't changed.
true pecan
I wasn't here last year.
ruby swift
Then there was someone who did exactly the same thing.
true pecan
Well yeah because the terminology in Kickstarter calls anyone who donates any amount a backer.
and they said backer.
so it hink that terminology probably confused a lot.
orchid bobcat
Will player identity be concealable? Could I wear a mask, assassinate a mayor or something and any witnesses wouldn't know my name?
digital yacht
since u didnt pledge to a package u dont have a packge to upgrade unfortunately thats how it goes
scenic aspen
@simple ether aaah so a siege basically "resets" the node if the siege were successful?
ruby swift
Again, you can tilt at that windmill. I am trying to help you save time and energy. But Don Quioxte away.
crystal flax
Yes it would
digital yacht
what?
crystal flax
Sieges destroy nodes now
digital yacht
where
ruby swift
It was changed shadow
true pecan
Unknown you sound kind of bitter is all the rest were helpful thanks.
crystal flax
Sieges flat out destroy nodes now as opposed to delevel
ruby swift
Sorry you don't like my "tone"
faint plover
Will be oficiale launch same for US And EU? I know Its very early to ask on someting about launch. But what do you think?
scenic aspen
That actually sounds pretty damn clever thanks for the clerification @simple ether and @digital yacht
soft magnet
I know we don't know when A# and B# is gonna be out but do we have any estimated time of when A1 MIGHT be done to get an estimate on when they might give an ETA on A2 ?
ruby swift
It will come when it is done and ready. Very zen of them.
soft magnet
I'm always iffy on the "no ETAs" imagine pre ordering a new year model car or something and them just saying "sometime" lol I also respect them not rushing things though
Feel like they probably miss out on a lot of support
crystal flax
They used to give dates and then they couldn't reach them, so they stopped giving dates
Until they were absolutely confident in them
soft magnet
Yeah but if it's done correctly push backs are felt ok by the community
Look at cp2077 etc
crystal flax
That's a company with an established reputation though
digital yacht
and that game isnt on the scale of an MMO
soft magnet
Yeah but if you're already willing to put $100+ into something you have confidence
That or you're just bad with money 😅
This is the first game in a very long time I am extremely excited about , so I just am eager but it's hard for me to drop "x" without a date , I know it's just my feelings tho
digital yacht
then u have no confidence, no need to drop money as the preorders arent going anywhere so ya take ur time
scenic aspen
Okay one more question in regards to my previous question; those huge sieges sounds like they can happen at anytime, so would you potentially be able to make a siege while the citizens of another node is forinstance sleep (irl) or must a conflict like this be reacted to be the defenders before you can attack and raze a node's city?
ruby swift
Yep, you even have Steven on Asmon's stream expressing that same sentiment.
soft magnet
Oh no I have full confidence in the finish product for sure , but if they aren't even confident in giving an ETA the timeframe itself just makes me nervous. I have no doubt the end product is going to be amazing
Again just eager
ruby swift
They are expensive and require a lot of work. They will not be done for shits and giggles. And there are days of lead in time for preparation.
soft magnet
Damn covid -_-
crystal flax
A comma in there Jahlon to fix your meaning
digital yacht
@scenic aspen he gave exact times on Summits or Asmons stream with knowledge in advance
soft magnet
Oh I know unknown I do coding , it's by no means an easy or fast task , I'm just happy im this eager about a game :P
ruby swift
Also from what has been given for what it costs to declare a siege, you need the input of several master crafters to craft the "scroll" and have to put a huge amount of resources into it. It is not going to be just rolling zergs of people burning shit down day after day.
soft magnet
That's good to knowb
scenic aspen
Think I missed the memo about the prime time thing and the "cooldown" again that does make me happy to hear that it works like that since I can imagine that prevent a lot of unnecessary griefing Thanks a lot for the clarification, really appreciate it
ruby swift
Risk v Reward. You are going to have to pay a heavy cost risk to possibly get that reward.
charred apex
Question here... Is there an idea in mind for the interaction between nodes for raid content? Like adjasent Nodes can spawn a Raid in the conecction between them due to events happening between nodes?
soft magnet
Do the different mounts have any special characteristics or anything or is it more cosmetic etc. I think I saw in the video u can breed different creatures etc?
austere pike
Does the person with the siege scroll accept/decline people for the attack? Or can everyone join.
ruby swift
@soft magnet All skins are non-stat cosmetics only
You have to acquire the base item in game to skin it.
austere pike
is there any system to prevent the person owning the city to have his friends siege him and auto fail the attack, and therefore enter a grace period? Or would that just be too many resources to be unimaginable?
soft magnet
Is there a general timeline on how long it will take to master "x"
soft magnet
Like blacksmithing etc
ruby swift
Would be a huge cost, and no guarantee that others would not show up to burn it down. Anyone can join a siege.
stable plover
@austere pike Randos can sign up along with his friends in that situation, his friends might as well sign up on the proper side
austere pike
oh right, anyone could join
was thinking of accept/declining system, i felt you could maybe do that with the 250 vs 250
ruby swift
And remember, there is a server message that goes out when one is declared, and there are a few days based on level lead in time before the siege, plenty of time for people to show up.
austere pike
but maybe its just the first to sign up?
ruby swift
Castle and node sieges have different systems
austere pike
yeah so for sure, that wouldnt be a problem for nodes
weak sand
Why would one choose either the Kickstarter or the pre-order?
ruby swift
Kickstarter closed in May 2017
digital yacht
KS came before the Preorders si there that
weak sand
Ah I see
I wasn't sure
In sad I never heard of this games development until yesterday :(
scarlet flower
When is the earliest I could play this game, alpha two?
weak sand
I definetly would have invested
soft magnet
I heard they were working with ppl from PlanetSide to on server size and lag , think everyone from Wow are worried about the lag potential in big events like that 250 or 500 v same
Has there been enough ppl to test something like that yet
weak sand
Especially for a lifetime sub... That would have been really amazing
austere pike
but now you dont have to wait as long as those who backed it in 2017 samoon!
weak sand
You mean until release?
soft magnet
I'm not sure if that even had prior at this point in development just curious
austere pike
i mean they have waited for years
soft magnet
Prio*
weak sand
Yes very true
digital yacht
@soft magnet steven is 100% confident as per the Asmongold stream that the game will be able to handle 250v250, it might take time to master it but it will get there
austere pike
in anticipation, we have to wait for a shorter duration 🙂
weak sand
I can still put money forth and preorder, I can live with that
soft magnet
I wish someone started kicking me in 2017 :(
weak sand
There's definetly a pro and con to knowing about it now
soft magnet
The gaming industry has just been so bad for so long imo
weak sand
If I had learned about it say a year from now, I wouldn't have had to wait
weak sand
But! Now I can invest my thoughts into it
austere pike
true, im looking forward to it being streamed 🙂 even if i cant participate for alpha myself
soft magnet
Assuming in alpha/beta there's the same report bug and give feedback type systems as other betas in this space ?
weak sand
Their dedication and ideas make my emotional. The game appears to be everything I've ever wanted
I know to be cautiously optimistic
So we can preorder though still? For Alpha or beta? Or are those exclusive
digital yacht
a2 is earliest
soft magnet
A2 B1 and 2 u can still
soft magnet
Think it was $250 for A2?
weak sand
Only drawback is I have no idea if I could run it
soft magnet
They have a rexommend specs link
weak sand
Would need to invest in components first
eternal palm
I'm curious to know more about the classes, I've looked through the wiki, I guess they just arent super developed yet? Will all classes use 'ability power' like Warhammer Online? Or will we see different systems like Mana for Mages, Energy for Rogues, Rage/Fury for Fighters -- etc
austere pike
yeah its 250 for A2
austere pike
pin it
weak sand
I think I would be willing to invest the $375 preorder package. Even if something falls through, I know I'm funding something good
fading latch
Mana and stamina i believe@digital yacht
eternal palm
Kinda like Elder Scrolls then?
timber zealot
Does anyone know if there will be more playable races in the future?
weak sand
Plus, a name reservation would be very nice lol. A little side perk
fading latch
@eternal palm kinda but remember its subject to change being this early on
digital yacht
@timber zealot from what they said we have 9 total so far, no word on if they plan on more, but im sure some time in the future we could see it
timber zealot
Alrighty, thanks, Shadow
eternal palm
Gah, why'd I have to get hyped now instead of like 1 month before launch >.<
fading latch
@timber zealot we have no confirmation on dlc races. What we have seen so far is everything
weak sand
But gotta have patience and use the time to maybe have influence or something
surreal rose
I heard about this game yesterday and now I don't feel like playing shadowlands all of sudden of how hyped I'm :p
hexed cosmos
Is there much info on how extensive the "underdark" will be?
fading latch
100sq km@hexed cosmos
digital yacht
underealm
weak sand
Ive always wanted to be a part of a game early on
Always been sad I never played wow esrly
eternal palm
early on is often the best haha
hexed cosmos
and is it under a specific part of the map, or do the tunnels stretch and connect most of the world or?
digital yacht
@surreal rose might as well play it cuz ashes wont come out before it lol
eternal palm
like PUBG was better in early access
weak sand
This is my chance and dangit I will spend that money ahaha
fading latch
@hexed cosmos they stretch a vast majority with many entrances and exits
digital yacht
@hexed cosmos it wont be secluded to one section of the map
fading latch
^
weak sand
I already bought Shadowlands too soo woo
digital yacht
lol
surreal rose
yeah same pretty much lol
fading latch
Might as well play something. Ashes is a while yet
weak sand
Ofc
surreal rose
I suspect we'll be done with shadowlands before ashes come out so we're on safe side anyways
weak sand
I wish I had something to offer the dev team
eternal palm
I didnt buy shadowlands yet, playing wow classic.. not very excited for classic TBC anymore suddenly haha...
fading latch
Your soul is sufficient@weak sand
weak sand
Other than a 375 preordee
timber zealot
I will have to make a decission of either paying sub fee to FFXIV or this game lal
austere pike
think i saw something with 100 km2 underdark? can anyone confirm/deny?
fading latch
^
eternal palm
Is that included in the 480km2, or is it an additional 100km2 underneath parts of the 480km2?
austere pike
right, couldnt remember the name, just went with the one from chat 😄
ruby swift
480
hexed cosmos
it's where those drow live, whatever they are called
fading latch
Tulnar
ruby swift
the 480 does not include the Underrealm
weak sand
Does anyone know how extensive animal husbandry will be? Would love to see as the profession levels, you can breed one of many many different mount/pet combos and breed them and create a demand for rare creations
hexed cosmos
Do we know much about the Tulnar? do they worship some evil deity? spiders maybe?
empty fjord
but the 480 includes water right?
ruby swift
Said to be "very extensive"
fading latch
We do not have that information other then it exists@weak sand
digital yacht
@empty fjord yes
eternal palm
It sounded extensive, and like you would want to have a master with it be the one to grow and hatch your royal mounts
weak sand
So they probably have thought of it
fading latch
Yes or find a master@eternal palm
digital yacht
@hexed cosmos https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tulnar
eternal palm
yep
weak sand
They seemed to have the ideas that many players want
eternal palm
so you could be one of the masters and charges fees for everyone to come to you for mount hatching services it sounds like
fading latch
Yup
ruby swift
or know one. Guilds will have people that specialize. No reason to have 10 Grandmaster tamers and no blacksmiths.
weak sand
As long as theres a hint that they will go down that avenue of raising mounts
wicked sapphire
in the Asmongold interview, Steven said he would love to hear perspectives of different MMO players. I had 11,000+ hours of Aion and would love to talk to a dev about my experience along with AOC. Is that possible?
weak sand
And creatures
digital yacht
@wicked sapphire forums
eternal palm
tweet him maybe
ruby swift
@wicked sapphire There are many ways to interact with the developers here. And there are many people that have extensive experience with mmos and game design. So prepare to be one of many.
wicked sapphire
its not something im proud of >_<
weak sand
I also noticed that in the 4K video the person was unmounted every time they entered water. Wonder if in the development process they plan on changing that
wicked sapphire
but the game is over a decade old and i played since launch
digital yacht
@weak sand there is water mounts
surreal rose
I've been in wow since vanilla, I've tried many other mmos, they all failed to be as good as wow (even in it's current state), I truly wish AoC will kick wow's ass
fading latch
Yeah there is underwater content including dungeons only accessible via a water mount
ruby swift
@weak sand Most likely has something to do with when you drive a caravan into a large body of water it needed to convert to a boat. If people could just ride their mounts with no transition, then it might be something to glitch their system.
ruby swift
Also the green water......bad
Steven wasn't taking environmental damage because prolly in god mode. But that stuff is nasty.
austere pike
i think samoon is talking about when they got dismounted of normal horses from walking through shallow water
austere pike
i noticed it aswell, but just thought that it would be fixed, but don't remember any questions asked about it or them saying anything about it in the video
late siren
from what I can gather from googling, alpha 2 will be around Christmas or early 2021?
weak sand
I love that they said that mounts can be made to stay while unmounted. Wonder if they will add animations for the mount to sit/ lay down while idle for a long time
digital yacht
Alpha 2 can be anywhere from early 2021 and on, no confirmed date or timeframe for a2 until a1 is finished @late siren
weak sand
They said they can be attacked as well and die, perhaps adding the mount to attack back. Not super strong, but just for immersion
haughty mason
How many characters are allowed for when we name our character?
fading latch
@weak sand they have showcased animations for all of those yes
fading latch
Yes. Go to their youtube and look for them@weak sand
haughty mason
@ruby swift thanks
weak sand
They are adding so many things that ive seen from less successful mmos
ruby swift
someone can get an exact. I have to get ready for work.
fading latch
Me and Shadow have got it
weak sand
Anyone hear or played the dead game Ryzom?
weak sand
Lol
fading latch
What is it?
weak sand
An old sandbox mmo
late siren
Thanks, little point buying in now then, other than cosmetics?
weak sand
They had aspects that I'm seeing built in AOC
late siren
Yes I played Ryzom a lot
weak sand
Oh cool
weak sand
I played a lot when I was younger, but they game isn't catered to solo play
fading latch
Only if you wanted early testing access and the cosmetic/ember/game time benefits@late siren
weak sand
Nearly impossible to grind alone
late siren
Ryzom had so much right, but so much wrong too 😦
ruby swift
I am guilty of this too. But remember this one is for questions. Please migrate if doing opinions or discussing other stuff. We got a lot of new people with burning questions.
weak sand
Anyway, AOC has aspects that I loved from Ryzom. You can have your mount out, it can get attacked and attack back, I love that there are not many fast travel and treks were a thing
And okay
Ill try to keep just questions
hexed cosmos
Is there any way of developing a node whose guards wont attack corrupted players? Like if someone were to try start a pirate/criminal city?
digital yacht
Mayor can decide if he wants NPC guards or not, but im unsure if there is a way to make them not attack at all
fading latch
@hexed cosmos No
amber bronze
How to buy beta / send money for game?
digital yacht
also unsure if there is a way to not have any at all
@amber bronze ashesofcreation.com/shop
amber bronze
Thank u
hexed cosmos
So the best way of creating a criminal city would to have a designated de-corruption farming spot next to it for criminals wanting to enter? And obviously player-protection for corrupted players grinding there?
digital yacht
@hexed cosmos to early to know this info but most likely that wont be a thing
amber bronze
Is there a way to contribute $1000?
ruby swift
Guards also roam possibly. We have seen that.
digital yacht
@fiery raft as alot of other EUs are doing they say do it on intrepid then migrate it over when the time comes
wind hull
sorry if asked before but , is the only way to play early through buying the supporter packs
surreal rose
The problem I guess is not regionlock, it's the latency, i'm in dubai so I'd be getting around 220ms+ in NA
tiny delta
Are you going to be able to heal mobs?
woven vale
Yeah, your prob stuck with my.com then
Though remember my.com can't do anything to the game but host
fiery nova
So how come the price for the cheapest option is 88e when paying but the website says 75 dollars
fiery raft
Or play NA
@woven vale yeah but then the ping will suck most likly
woven vale
Yep, unfortunately that is the choice.
Maybe My.com will get replaced but don't get your hopes up.
Contract prob is not voidable.
stable plover
@fiery nova I'm guessing Vat / currency conversion problems -- If you don't think that's the issue maybe wait until eventually the payment processor switches and see if it helps
fiery nova
Okay
boreal abyss
fading latch
Intrepid deal business in America and thus are subject to VAT/Taxes for international transactions @fiery nova
woven vale
Contract may be voidable at a later date, and someone could show interest near release but yep.
wheat elk
Hi, does anyone know if the alpha 1 is still running. I was thinking about purchasing the kickstarter package but only if i can play the game immediately.
woven vale
You can't buy kickstarter
Alpha 1 starts in fall.
@surreal rose Bad reputation company.
wheat elk
Whatever u call the packages in the shop
tiny delta
@surreal rose Ruined a lot of mmos
woven vale
but not 1
wheat elk
K ty
fiery raft
@woven vale my.com will not get replaced, contract already signed
My.com was also only EU publisher in contact that allowed Intrepid to maintain all rights to cash shop
@boreal abyss thats the best information i heard
woven vale
Lets hope the customer support isnt terrible
drowsy scarab
So this Apocalypse is that the alpha that arrives in the fall or is it the base game that is being alpha?
austere pike
btw, are they allowing multiboxing? (pls no)
drowsy scarab
okey, have they stopped working with apocalypse now?
aight
how could I miss this 😦
boreal abyss
Focusing on Alpha 1 at the moment, castle sieges and Horde mode will come later
austere pike
you can stop it the same way as gold sellers
boreal abyss
@fiery raft yh, INtrepid maintaining rights and control over cash shop was a key point for Intrepid
drowsy scarab
Any cool rewards given through apocalypse?
proper grove
equipment isnt class-locked, but are weapons class-locked?
boreal abyss
no
proper grove
👀
im using a book on scryer then ty
fight me if it aint optimal, ill die in bliss
paper drum
I believe Artisans can edit where stats are allocated on items so it might be not so bad @proper grove
drowsy scarab
Damn, and I missed that 😦 Downright depressed ^^
proper grove
planning to master scribing, because it sounds cool and niche
paper drum
Maybe not specifically Artisan, but crafters, not sure what level is required to do it
boreal abyss
Master Crafters can adjust stats on gear yes (boost one at the cost of another)
(Crafters in general but master crafters better at it)
proper grove
i just love aggressively pulling out a book instead of a sword
weak sand
@drowsy scarab me too. But cheer up, still things we can get with preorder!
drowsy scarab
@weak sand Yeah, I have the 375$ version so I am set ^^ I'm one of those "I want it all" kinda guy ^^
Thats why it sucks
weak sand
Yes! I'm getting that soon
boreal abyss
@drowsy scarab give it up, I did
there are Unique, one of a kind, items on servers
xD
weak sand
I'm not sure how long I have until its not relavent
drowsy scarab
Hahah I know. I just can't fight my nature ^^
weak sand
I don't necessarily want it all, but I definetly want to be a part of it from the early start
boreal abyss
@simple ether Temple's question
dark jungle
yes it is @lime island
weak sand
2020 still early I hope lol
drowsy scarab
I grind all kinds of games just to get shit
boreal abyss
only the pre-order packs that are there
weak sand
Still good stuff on the website
drowsy scarab
where can I see this, dont believe I've seen that
drowsy scarab
do they vary?
If I have bought the biggest version do I get the once releasing after as well or no?
weak sand
crystal beacon
so there is no excact date
digital yacht
no
crystal beacon
but do we have to wait 1 month year or?
weak sand
Yes
digital yacht
not before 20202
weak sand
Lol no still a while
digital yacht
2022
crystal beacon
so not before 2022?
digital yacht
99% not likely
weak sand
Got to make it polished and fully functional
surreal rose
I'd guess Embers are only for purchasing in-game cosmetics right?
digital yacht
yes
narrow yacht
Yep
solar stag
what stops me from making a PK alt, doing the PKs and then killing that alt with my main until the corruption is gone and then giving the lost items back from my main to my alt?
narrow yacht
Anybody know how the very early game works? Like there are no built up nodes, so how do we start off?
ruby swift
Also, you would be paying for two accounts. And as corrupted you respawn randomly in the node. You dont respawn at corpse in Ashes.
ruby swift
Really
loud onyx
Interesting.
solar stag
I don't necessarily have to pay for 2 accounts, could be done with a friend also
weak sand
My friend is concerned with guild constantly camping players. Wouldnt they be unable to continue doing so after a while?
ruby swift
If you die normally you respawn at closest respawn point. Corrupted respawn randomly in the node.
narrow yacht
Are ships strictly caravan based or is there naval combat?
ruby swift
@weak sand There are mechanics to avoid corpse camping and ultimately if it is griefing an active GM could get involved to make a judgement.
drowsy scarab
I just saw in the store that I can buy the specific items each month. Why can't I use the embers for that if I may ask ^^ 😛
loud onyx
I really want to see what kind of class the rogue+mage is, or even rogue+summoner.
ruby swift
Because Embers are for once the game releases.
weak sand
Ah
proper grove
what exactly is scribing going to do
ruby swift
I didn't do it.
drowsy scarab
Dont see why they wouldn't be able to be used in the store though since you buy the same kind of items with it?
ruby swift
Their house, their rules.
drowsy scarab
ofc
proper grove
my guess was scribers make spellbooks, but thats all i got
drowsy scarab
just wondering ^^
crystal beacon
What kinds of expansion's can we expect to see from AoC?
Not just in terms of added Races, raids and world events, but things like new continents/zones possible overworld/underworld deals.
and just to be sure im not asking about pricing or when they'll release, im just curious what type of content would/will be added to the game as it evolves
digital yacht
games not even out they arent worried about DLC
proper grove
they said they will be increasing level cap and adding higher leveles content
dunno what that entails
tired palm
I have a question about servers in the game:
Will a character be "server-locked"? With how much emphasis I see on each server being drastically different, I'd think it would make sense that they wouldn't want players server hopping to go to a node with different characteristics or advancements.
desert ivy
There are no server transfers
winged bobcat
@crystal beacon i dont think there will be pricing for DLCs (unless purely cosmetic stuff). Pretty sure they mentioned since theres a subscription, there is no "down payment" for content.
winged bobcat
Referrals generate sub time? Dont they generate the currency to buy cosmetics?
desert ivy
No, can also be used to reduce subscription cost
And you can literally earn irl money
tired palm
@desert ivy thank you!
wanton rivet
dusky spade
I think the question was more about the implementation of new content over time and it is a valid question. Each addition of new zones to a world ends up greatly affecting the population in the world in the rest of the content. In a node based game this question is very valid as the question of how it will affect the world and player behaviour as a whole comes into play.
plucky pawn
@trail shard @winged bobcat you can check out more on where we've discussed the referral program (and what you can use the funds for) here: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036147094-What-is-the-referral-program-
winged bobcat
just read up on it, thought you get Embers for the referral not intrepid bucks ^^
digital yacht
no
burnt cliff
Are there any benefits to PvP and corruption? As I am not as informed, ive only been seeing negative things about it like exp penalties and such or is it mostly for the joy of killing each other
weak sand
You can take over a rare resource, take mats
royal isle
Are the cosmetic real money items possible to obtain within the game itself?
Or is that a pay to win the cool rewards feature?
digital yacht
they will have cool skins and such to be earned in game
crystal flax
There's PvP systems outside the corruption system too @burnt cliff
slow meadow
@royal isle no the items are exclusive to the shop, though they may have similar items in game. to add to this they will also have a ton of cool options in game so that people dont feel obligated to go to the cash shop.
digital yacht
the best of the best skins wont just be bought for IRL money
royal isle
Who determines "best" when that is subjective?
digital yacht
its on u
stable plover
@burnt cliff corruption only gives penalties, but you could get some raw materials gaining the corruption in the first place - Normal PvP can get you resources by raiding or protecting caravans, prestige for your guild, or protect your freehold home or raid someone elses if destroying their node in a siege.
digital yacht
to determine
royal isle
It sounds like it is not on me if there are items locked behind a paywall
solar stag
digital yacht
purely cosmetic
royal isle
Cosmetics are important
boreal abyss
@royal isle to give another quote
"We will not downplay in game cosmetics to force people towards teh cash shop cosmetics"
royal isle
Why have shop cosmetics to begin with?
royal isle
I can give several reasons why not lol
raven raven
random question - for the different pre-order packs, do they all guarantee you access to the prerelease (2 days before official release)
royal isle
It inherently removes content from the game and makes some of the cool rewards inaccessible unless you have X disposable income
boreal abyss
then play another game if it's that bad for you 
burnt cliff
Is normal pvp like battlegrounds and such?
digital yacht
frankly it doesnt matter here is what steven said abnout that "We will not downplay in game cosmetics to force people towards teh cash shop cosmetics"
royal isle
Bad answer lol @boreal abyss
boreal abyss
simple answer
digital yacht
how is that a bad anmswer?
rotund zinc
These companies don’t need money to run the company /s
royal isle
It's bad because it dodges the purpose of my inquiry
desert ivy
Because he didn't agree wit his opinion 
boreal abyss
and it dodges because it is pointless
digital yacht
@burnt cliff Castle Siege Node Siege
royal isle
If I said "Why have pay to win mechanics" and your defense is "Go do something else"
You haven't defended said system
boreal abyss
you dont like cosmetics, ok
we dont mind cosmetics, ok
no point in "arguing" it
digital yacht
there is no P2W tho
royal isle
Or justified its existence
slow meadow
@royal isle its a way to continue to fund the game, and for the company to make money in addition to the sub. it does not remove content from the game because cash shop money can be used to hire people to do cash shop things and sub money is used for in game content. Though in reality its just more content all around the more successful it is. but its purely cosmetic and you are free to not partake.
desert ivy
Cosmetic cash shop is p2w 
royal isle
I didn't call it pay to win in the sense that you are describing
rotund zinc
Looking cool = winning
royal isle
I compared it to an example that you would understand
Since you don't seem to understand that cosmetics has inherent value to some people
So I dumbed down the example to something most gamers would agree with
boreal abyss
@still wyvern
royal isle
The point still stands
Cosmetic rewards are things that have value
Why take them out of the game and only limit them to wealthier people?
royal isle
What is the logic?
slow meadow
this is getting in to discussion territory please move the conversation to #aoc-discussion the question has been answered.
digital yacht
exclusitivity
royal isle
You can get experience in game, too
So again some of these arguments are awful
And come across as defensive rather than meaningful
digital yacht
ur argument is bad too ho cares its cosmetic get over it
royal isle
I'm sure someone in here has an actual answer to my inquiry
crystal flax
People have answered, you just don't like the answer
royal isle
Some people answered in a reasonable, frank manner
Others did not
Parsing that is part of the issue considering the amount of responses all at once
crystal beacon
What kinds of expansion's can we expect to see from AoC?
@digital yacht im just asking what kind of content we could expect 🙄
and just to be sure im not asking about pricing
@winged bobcat never asked about pricing 😕
royal isle
From several different people, who take drastically different approaches to responding
digital yacht
its hard to tell bc we dont have a game yet @crystal beacon
plucky pawn
@royal isle hey friend - this is a channel for questions as stated, not discussions - if there are additional discussions you'd like to have on topics here, please bring them down to one of our channels below!
rotund zinc
The AoC social experiment
still wyvern
Lads. This is the question/answer-only channel. Any discussion can be brought to #aoc-discussion
winged bobcat
@crystal beacon oh sorry, i misread then ^^'
crystal beacon
anyone know when the next aoc stream is???
royal isle
Let me rephrase my question
If there was no cosmetic item shop, would the game sustain itself?
desert ivy
We wouldn't know since we don't know how many subs Ashes will get
Maybe it will get millions and sustain itself
crystal beacon
@still wyvern exactly, im merely asking what kind of content was planned :/
slow meadow
Depends on the size of the player base. It also could impact their timing for additional content releases, and the number of staff they could maintain. We don't have that kind of insight into the plan, but those are pretty safe assumptions.
boreal abyss
@crystal beacon we do not know, main game is not even out yet so xD
digital yacht
@crystal beacon as stated no1 can really answer that question tm
raw scroll
whats the referral system all about
digital yacht
river sierra
if the money they get from the skin (that i would have otherwise got from a quest) goes back into making the game better. why wouldn't you want paid cosmetics.
raw scroll
ty
boreal abyss
@raw scroll You can reffer a friend, if they sign up using your code
you will get 15% of any money they spend on the game (sub or cosmetics)
royal isle
@river sierra Avarice is common
stable plover
@crystal beacon Streams are usually the last Friday of the month, so theoretically in about 11 days assuming they don't move it to a Thursday or something. (It hasn't been officially announced yet)
royal isle
Many companies add micro transactions not as a means to improve their game, but instead as a means to suck money from its player base (even at the expense of the game)
So, given the landscape, I wanted to know if that is what is happening here
digital yacht
so now ur assuming LOL
royal isle
I didn't assume
river sierra
^^
royal isle
I asked
boreal abyss
@royal isle #aoc-discussion
bold tusk
has there been a class breakdown yet for class skills?
digital yacht
how would any1 knopw that question except the dev lol but no that is ur answer
@bold tusk nope
desert ivy
The top 4 current MMORPGs (WoW, FF14, ESO, GW2) all have some form of cosmetics in their cash shop.
boreal abyss
@bold tusk no
royal isle
I wanted an answer on the philosophy of the cosmetic shop design
Why the devs think cosmetics are acceptable things to strip from a game and sell separately
slow meadow
@royal isle there is almost no way to know that until you see what content the game has post release. That is different than the philosophy which as answered previously is no pay to win and is being used as additional funding for the game. But that is all we can really say at this point.
spare shore
So is release is 2022?
crystal flax
How is it stripped from the game when there's earnable cosmetics in game
boreal abyss
@crystal beacon No it means that they will not balance so that Cleric vs anything is balanced vs anything
stable plover
@royal isle Intrepid is fine financially, they don't really need your money, but at the same time Ashes of Creation is kind of a 'premium' MMO experience, you can find lots of other fun games out there to play for free/nearly free.
plucky pawn
@royal isle If you haven't had a chance to check out our previous answers regarding how we're aiming to have equitable cosmetics available in-game that you can earn, perhaps that might help clear some things up 
winged bobcat
@crystal beacon And dont forget the Dual-Spec system. You wont be just a Bard, you will be a Bard Summoner, Bard Tank, Bard Cleric etc
slow meadow
@crystal beacon to a certain extent that is true. There is not a rock-paper-scissors approach to PvP but doesn't mean you will always be helpless. But there will be times that running would likely be the best option available to you.
plucky pawn
@spare shore you can keep up-to-date with the latest on testing and releases here!
tropic abyss
Or even better @crystal beacon, a bard bard!
dark jungle
@crystal beacon its based on a kind of rock-paper-scissors approach. Bard might be able to kick summoner's ass for example, summoner might be able to kick cleric etc
drowsy scarab
Where can I find the Leader of Men pack?
digital yacht
@dark jungle Wrong Cleric beats all
@drowsy scarab not accessible anymore
i dont think u have to worryt about losing a 1v1 unless u are severly countered/outgeared
tired palm
👀 Can you be a pirate?
digital yacht
yea there is naval content
slow meadow
yeah it wont be quite that bad. plus you could always hire someone to guard you @crystal beacon
digital yacht
like naval caravans
obsidian zealot
About the Strider class and stat balancing, - it's a ranger/fighter combo, so if it's supposed to be a hybrid of ranged/melee dmg - how do stats effect this class in particular? Will stacking melee attack power also increase ranged attack power, or will they have to balance both dexterity/strength to get the most out of their kit, and would this make them sub-optimal damage dealers? If so does the kit have other uses such as powerful buffs they can offer allies or exceptional mobility?
tired palm
Ahh okay, @digital yacht ty!
boreal abyss
@obsidian zealot specific details are unknown as of now
digital yacht
@obsidian zealot wont know 100% until A2
slow meadow
@obsidian zealot there is not currently a way to answer that question. We don't have that level of detail for classes yet. Its all subject to change in testing as they start building the classes out.
stable plover
@tired palm You can be a pirate, raiding naval caravans that come by for their raw gatherable loot, maybe do some mercenary work or exploration on the side.
obsidian zealot
Just concerned about the 64 classes and their hybridization.
tired palm
@stable plover ty!
digital yacht
@obsidian zealot that will all be explained come A2 when all those come to play
boreal abyss
@obsidian zealot its more that you cover you ranger ice cream with fighter sauce than "hybridization"
obsidian zealot
But Aragorn was more of a melee fighter in LotR 😦
winged bobcat
@crystal beacon other player. I think they anticipate that mercenary guilds form, that you oculd hire
slow meadow
@crystal beacon a bit of both depending on the activity. Some things like caravans you can hire npc guards for in addition to players.
but for solo grinding you would need an actual player
winged bobcat
@crystal beacon but these guys would probably be called "friends" not mercs :> Hiring Mercs all day... i think that gonna be expansive
clear wharf
digital yacht
yes
slow meadow
@obsidian zealot one of the easiest examples is having a fighter as your archetype and then picking mage as your secondary. You have a "Charge" as part of your kit from fighter. If you augment the charge with your secondary the charge changes to a blink and is no longer stopped by other objects in the way.
you didnt get a new set of abilities, just modified the ones you had.
obsidian zealot
so fighter sauce on bow and arrows is... more damage ? Perhaps it'll wind up being more dmg than pure ranger
royal isle
- Cosmetics have value, hence some people pay money for them. You can't argue that they simultaneously do and do not have said value.
- Cosmetics could be in the game or in the shop. If you put them in the shop, then they aren't in the game. This is what I meant by "stripping" cosmetic rewards from the game.
- "If you don't like it, then go somewhere else" is a terrible attitude in general. Some empathy would be well received.
austere pike
btw, can you have 2 caravans going at the same time (basicly having them next to eachother)?
Also does anyone know how much cargo ships can carry? compared to a caravan
royal isle
Why are cosmetics considered okay to sell, but experience boosts not okay? Who draws that line?
slow meadow
there was not a question in there please take this to #aoc-discussion as directed by toast and others
boreal abyss
@plucky pawn
austere pike
Harb, i really dont like cosmetic shop either, but the difference between exp boost and cosmetic is huge
austere pike
aight, ty!
slow meadow
to answer your actual question, Intrepid draws the line and have said that there will be no P2W and no P2Convenience so everything will be purely cosmetic.
digital yacht
@slow meadow hes just mad that the said cosmetics in the shop are not in game to be earned
crystal flax
Neither
plucky pawn
@royal isle We've been pretty clear previously about our philosophy on P2W, which would include experience boosts - and how our shop will be cosmetic only.
winter wedge
Has anything been said about progression? Is it going to be more horizonal focused or vertical focused, maybe a mix of both?
vapid sable
okay. so when will it be just an open game
slow meadow
it is starting alpha 1 this fall. that is the only date so far @vapid sable
vapid sable
okay ty
obsidian zealot
Glad you guys are taking a hard stance on botting - I see 3 or so bots every time I play WoW - what is your guys' stances on multi-boxxing?
weak sand
I have an odd question. I know there will be integrated voice party voice chat, but have they ever mentioned opt-in proximity voice chat in the open world?
Ah okay
Cool, cool
tropic abyss
Can already see the elf healers in the skimpiest outfits having the deepest voices ever lmao.
slow meadow
@rose stump alpha 1 this fall. no dates beyond that. they are focusing on getting it right not getting done by X time
leaden blade
I heard there are gonna card and dice games in caverns. Will there be a ingame syst that requires bidding or will actual gambling be up to players
crystal flax
There will be tavern games but probably not actual gambling
tropic abyss
Eu is going ham on e-gambling
leaden blade
Gonna be fun to go to caverns and see a bunch of people playing games for gold gain xD
winged bobcat
I dont like that. The thing is with betting and having fixed BETS that cant be changed and are paid upfront is a good thing. If there isnt a system like that in it :/ people will still gamble and it gets a scamming avanue for ppl not upholding the bets after they loose :/ but i guess, cant be helped.
slow meadow
@simple ether are we sure about that? Last comment I have is that they would let you with in game currency. Though the EU stuff is quickly getting stricter so obviously subject to change and all.
gusty garden
I have a question: Is Ashes of Creation coming to Mac ?
slow meadow
@crystal beacon combat was good, but will only be somewhat similar to what you get in the alpha since it will be a hybrid system of tab and action. not to mention many iterations to go for combat to get anywhere near done.
full pulsar
For someone who just got onto discord why is there a lot of people in chat?
digital yacht
@crystal beacon Yes and No it was all a testing ground to test out basic combat functionalities as well as their Base ACtion Combat system
@full pulsar Communtiy Q&A
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon Apocalypse was super helpful to testing the action portion of the combat we're implementing in the MMO, and the environments/graphics you were seeing should be a good representation of early testing too that being said, it was all very much a work in progress that we're continuing to refine through testing with your help!
digital yacht
yes if u have a question ask here
plucky pawn
@gusty garden At the moment we're currently developing for PC: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016315093-Will-there-be-a-Mac-client-
gusty garden
Ok thx
full pulsar
Are we free to talk or?
broken lodge
Watches Jahlon's new video
slow meadow
@full pulsar you can talk in #aoc-discussion if its just general conversation about the game, but if you specifically have a question you want answered ask it here.
digital yacht
@full pulsar ask away
@full pulsar but i would go ahead and look at the wiki first and see if its there
full pulsar
Its pertaining to the conversation in the Q&A.
digital yacht
i would go in there and ask lol
plucky pawn
@full pulsar if it's a bit busy in there to ask, feel free to drop it here as well!
(but yes, anyone is welcome to chat in the English channel )
tired palm
Can you set a referral code to your account after making it?
velvet musk
plucky pawn
@tired palm if you're talking about adding someone else's referral code to your account, you'll need to have done that during account creation: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016315653-I-created-an-account-before-I-knew-about-the-referral-link-Can-I-add-someone-s-referral-to-my-account-
worthy thorn
hey where can i see what names are allready claimed if i wanna buy the 350 pack?
tired palm
Ahh okay, ty both! @plucky pawn @velvet musk
crystal flax
Name reservations haven't happened yet
digital yacht
@worthy thorn Name Reservation starts during Alpha 1
worthy thorn
shii but the newest pack only gives u access to alpha 2
so do we get a list with claimed names or do i have to like just gamble it
deft dragon
lol A1 makes me think of that steak sauce or limousine place
digital yacht
no just a gamblke
broken lodge
how much is a name reservation?
worthy thorn
hmmm
Correct. A1 sales may come back
@simple ether does that mean i have to buy that seperate? or will that be included in the highest tier pack ?
ruby swift
You most likely would have an upgrade option.
Until they decide either way it won't be known.
midnight nest
I saw guilds be able to challenge other guild to guild battles. But how exactly will that be done? A guild just sends another guild a challenge or will the guild have to queue up for it?
full pulsar
So if I bought the 275 pack id just pay the difference?
digital yacht
yes
full pulsar
375*
midnight nest
Ok awesome thank you
digital yacht
most likely
worthy thorn
when was A2 planned?
winged bobcat
Uhm, not if it just me. Right now im on Wiki https://de.ashesofcreation.wiki/Archetypes reading through classes etc.
My problem is, that if i hover over the footnotes, there is a popup. This popup goes directly below my mouse. Which in turn, makes me not hovering over the Trigger anymore, which in Turn makes the popup disappear.... and it just keeps popping up and closing...
If its just me, tought luck. If not, could t be fixed? Am i even in the right channel and wiki? XD
digital yacht
@winged bobcat the wiki is fan made so intrepid has no affiliation to it
ruby swift
@crystal beacon Yes, transmog is a thing here.
woven vale
Will Ashes have instanced loot? And if so to what extent?
ruby swift
It won't.
woven vale
Ty.
ruby swift
The wiki has the current loot plans
woven vale
Wiki is up now?
ruby swift
Yep
winged bobcat
awwww....
ruby swift
He paid for a better server
woven vale
It is finally installed!
winged bobcat
And in general, are the Classnames still subject to discussions? ^^' Some of them feel weird (Mage/Tank = Spellstone).
digital yacht
nothing is set in stone as far as we know
@winged bobcat but ur end might be a translation issue
lemme check on my end
winged bobcat
Might be, right now im looking at the wiki ^^. Not sure if the information on it is right
digital yacht
yea its called Spellstone atm
dont know if its 100% set in stone so in time we shall see
dapper sleet
I have a question regarding the game and its systems/features and the way to play. Right now the game seems very group-oriented which is really nice, I'd much rather have that than what most MMORPG's offer right now. However, my concern is regarding people like myself that just want to say "leave me alone :c I wanna play by myself". I am not talking about dungeons or raids, will there be things to do alone that are still challenging to a certain degree outside of the traditional grinding leveling system that is usually done solo. Are there any features that are simply for solo-players?
weak sand
Id assume so, such as foraging, small mob killing for city quests
boreal abyss
there will be content that you can do solo yes, there will not be much, if any, content catered to solo players however
It is what you make of it yourself
I am a solo player myself and imo there is plenty to do
ruby swift
I believe the standard response has been that Ashes will not be for everyone. And they are fine with that.
toxic spade
there will be transmog?
ruby swift
Yep
toxic spade
i thought steve said no
boreal abyss
He never said no
ruby swift
I can get you a quote
toxic spade
how would transmog be done in ashe? like wow?
digital yacht
i think u can change a certain peice of gear to look like another only changing the appearance
keeping the statsa
dapper sleet
Not my question though and I don't mind that, just wondering if there will be some/more features focused on solo playing. I am playing private servers on WoW right now simply because they are more group oriented, but from my understanding your gameplay will be more or less group oriented to the point you go into the open world and are doing professions in groups. Am I mistaking this (simply due to the limited footage/my knowledge) or is this going to be the case?
toxic spade
i just dont like the idea of everyone able to transmog a legendary or rare items
crystal flax
Legendaries won't be easy to get so they won't
digital yacht
only if u own the item to my knowledge
toxic spade
oh i see
crystal beacon
Does anyone know if the preordered version is somehow region locked ? or doesnt it matter if i am from eu or na ?
digital yacht
@crystal beacon eu and na are seperate
ruby swift
But there is no region locking. If you are in EU and want to play on NA that is fine
digital yacht
im guessing it will work like this Say u own a level 4 set that looks bad ass, but ur gear is level 30 but looks like shit, u turn the level 30 to look like the level 4 set and most likely gets rid of the level 4 set
ruby swift
If you want to play on EU servers then you will be under My.Games eventually.
quasi crystal
Is it still possible to join the alpha tests? If so, how?
boreal abyss
A2 yes, buy pre-order pack at their website
crystal beacon
@quasi crystal i think its only possible if you buy the preorder
boreal abyss
A1, not atm, but might be possible to buy later
quasi crystal
which one?
quasi crystal
ty
weak sand
Though A1 was unavailable
boreal abyss
375$ one, is extra stuff added
weak sand
Now
boreal abyss
it is unavailable
digital yacht
@crystal beacon more EU players on buying on the ashes of creation site and migrating later on
its ur call tho
ruby swift
@crystal beacon It is recommended to buy through Intrepid atm, even if EU. My.Games is having issues with individual cosmetic purchases. In the future you will be able to migrate your account to EU with all your account stuff.
austere wraith
so alpha 1 testing is august 1st right? when is Alpha 2 testing?
crystal beacon
i mean aslong as i can migrate when the game launches i am fine with that
iu guees there will be a hard reset ?
digital yacht
@austere wraith no exact date but right around there
cloud nymph
How will the server/backend structure look for Ashes of Creation?? can it handle 8-10 000
weak sand
Oh boy
digital yacht
as for a2 no answer @austere wraith
weak sand
Its a work in progress
austere wraith
ok ty
digital yacht
@cloud nymph we wont know 100% until A1 officialy starts when all 10k backers have access
but the area of the map is only 16km2 so all 10k ppl wont be on the same map
the players will be scaled down
ruby swift
There are multiple servers for A1 planned. Even one in Germany!
Steven said in the Asmon interview that they are shooting for 1500 concurrent in the alpha island map.
pseudo stump
at the same time
weak sand
1500 players at the same time
weak sand
Ah
indigo obsidian
A1 will be under NDA?
weak sand
I dont think so?
slow meadow
no we are free to stream it
digital yacht
until steven lifts it but it should lose NDA when it officialy starts
weak sand
So what is the concurrent goal for full release?
digital yacht
8-10k
digital yacht
yes
weak sand
Ah
pseudo stump
what date is the full release expected to be on? Even just a general date, I'm mostly curious since I'm not certain If I'll be constantly checking up on it, and don't plan to pay for alpha or beta tests
pseudo stump
sounds about right
pseudo stump
lol put this server at the very bottom, and just wait for an @ everyone in 2 years
weak sand
Yep
narrow yacht
will there be future packs that I can purchase which will include different skins but the same alpha/beta access and other things?
tulip hatch
The cosmetics cycle monthly
The other stuff within the packs remain the same
narrow yacht
how long will these packs be available (not skin cycle), im guessing before alpha 2?
stable plover
Alpha 2 continues throughout B1/B2 so there's no reason to absolutely need to make a change until sometime after B1 starts
tulip hatch
We dont have the exact timeframe, the pack will be discounted when it loses A2 access but will remain in the store as like the previous intepid pack
narrow yacht
so when people are playing in alpha 2 and the game is ready to move onto beta 1, the game will not be reset, it will just be more features added and called beta 1?
stable plover
@narrow yacht A2 server runs seperately from beta servers -> Beta servers aren't up 24/7 like the A2 server
narrow yacht
so if i want to play the game consistently before it comes out i should get the pack with access to A2?
broken lodge
@simple ether are there areas in the game where you have to be flagged as a combatant?
not just talking about sieges
stable plover
Correct - A2 is the only 24/7 test mode (minus maintenance) -> A1 starts off in sessions and will work towards higher uptime
long crater
oh fugg A2 will go on persistently through the beta phase?
narrow yacht
so will A2 or B1 have more content?
pallid horizon
Will we have all the races by A1?
broken lodge
oh, they're debating in the voice chat if there are areas called "hunting grounds" which are rich in resources but you're automatically flagged as a combatant when you enter.
stable plover
@long crater A2 runs until launch and then becomes the test server
narrow yacht
i see, thank you so much!
desert ivy
@pallid horizon No, Tulnar will be missing. Only 4 of the "races" will be available.
long crater
@stable plover holy cow, very glad I purchased A2 access
narrow yacht
if i purchase one of the pre-order packs now, will i be able to switch the skins i get from this pack to a different pack of the same price that i might like better?
mighty tapir
ok
stable plover
@mighty tapir A1 is what's near the end of the year