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Yes, if he brings it back you will have the chance to upgrade later on
we were at least able to do so before they stopped selling Alpha 1 access packs earlier
500$ for the pack
500+
Is this game a scam to get money?
If you count a 5 year time of period, and investing 30 million $ with a few millions gained from KS etc a scam, then sure
I knew it was a scam
Not a very clever scam in that case tho
Will my-_-com still publice ashes in EU?
Yes
Because (as far as they told us) my.com was the only EU publisher that accepted that Intrepid would retain full control over the cash shop
That is great π
That is great. These days publishers just want p2w or crazy prices for cosmetics in hoards
Especially mycom... π
Of course, im still cautiously excited but it's veering towards real excitement the more I find out
True, but 100% control is already a good start so
Please do keep thisa channel for Q&A only
(esp now as we've had an influx of new players people)
Discussions are always welcome at #general-discussion and #aoc-discussion π
Random question but when did development fully kick off into full gear?
Yeah. Well, I have my own questions, not sure how much of it can be actually revealed/how much it is known
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I have read up a bit about the Tulnar (i think I spelled it right), how much of customisation will we have for the race? Are we able to make a lizardman with human posture and without a tail for example?
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Biggest thing for me. Dual wield. How will that work? If it will even be in the game? π€ π
Thanks again @simple ether
@crystal beacon specifics to tulnar is unknown
But they have said it will be a "3 point slider" between mammal, humanoid and lizard"
I just learned about AoC and I was looking at the early access. Is there a set date for beta 1 and 2 yet? I'm sorry if this was answered before I haven't been able to find it
@crystal beacon not sure about dual wielding yet BUT we can assume itβs in the game
In some fashion

KK β€οΈ
hella
With high end gear degrading over time, does it degrade while youβre offline or only online?
Awesome, ty!
If we are from EU can we still purchase from the main site? (even though its in dollars) or do we have to wait for my.com or something?
Wait
@crystal beacon specifics to tulnar is unknown
But they have said it will be a "3 point slider" between mammal, humanoid and lizard"
@boreal abyss hopefully it will be possible to set the bars just right just to make a Tulnar look similar to Dragonborn from NWOwould just be perfect
Also, do you know how
works? Is it sword in shield slot or dual weapon item?
@dark flume to specify
If you have a EU my.com account with ashes bought, wait
can buy from intrepid directly if eu, if that is what you meant
So...weapon into shield slot kinda?
Ahh, so if I'm in the UK I can purchase directly from intrepid?
Cheers lads
I am Norwegian, made Intrepid account and bought from them
Ah so there is no main hand and shield slots but main hand and offhand? Perfect 
That is my assumption since you can dual wield yes (since that is a common system)
so ahh... I am from Malaysia and just bought the cheapest pack available. So what i do now is kept my hype up, and wait for the game to release?
Yes, chat with people, discuss things realted to the game, up to you
Great. That answered my main questions
I just saw thelazypeons video where he mentioned there will be a 15$ sub fee. Will Ashes have a similar system to WOW where you can buy subscription time with in-game currency?
no
ok thank you
How customizable is the gear for not only for your class build but also for customizable appearances?
lets say you play for a few months and then take a 1-2 month break before coming back
does that mean all the ressources you have are basically forever gone since the node where your stuff is in will most likely be destroyed?
why would I want to come back when I know all the mats I gathered/bought are forever gone and instead of a "hey man glad your back" I get a "f you, start again"
@simple ether yeah that's why i was hoping that it wouldn't happen
no pay 2 win, no pay to convenience, you're paying for a GAYM, not paying to own poor people
or people who are smart enough not to give $$ to a P2W gaym
kind of a yikes tbh, just takes away of me wanting to come back when I want to take a break for some reason and then I get stressed and pressured to sell everything at the cheapest price possible just to get rid of it
Will the cosmetics in the pre order packs be available for purchase later on?
no, they are exclusive to that pre-order pack
@surreal zodiac No, with some exception for my.com stuff where they weren't properly available for purchase
you may find similar items later or in game but not those exactly
Ah yes, i forgot to ask about freeholds. Will it possible to make a hideout like, lets say in a mountain like let's say LOTR's Moria/Erebor? Or do they all have to be visible to the naked eye?
So no cave like freeholds?
@crystal beacon there is the underrealm but likely not a lone cave for a freehold
π« damn, if we could make a cave as a freehold but sacrifice amount of space we have, that would be just 
Well, I will look forward to more info if there ever comes any. So far game is just 
how do you get access to the alpha 2nd phase when it comes out. is their a client to download when avaiable?
Intrepid will send an email with instructions when the time comes
okay
kind of a tie in question to my previous one, is there a weight or general limit(not space) for the inventory and are mats stackable?
there will be a limit. trying to move large quantities of base materials will require a caravan as example
yeah I saw/read through that, just wanted to know if its possible to yoink my stuff out of the storage when I have to cancel the sub for a few months which doesnt seem to be the case, ty for the answer
Hello everyone. I only recently discovered AoC. I saw the last Dev update video from end lf last month and it looks like a pretty good game.
I was wondering if there is somewhere I can go to see a big list of all the stuff that is currently going to be in the game, or maybe a video showcasing the stuff?
@old adder aocwiki.com
is their an alt limit on servers?
Well there will be a limit on alts but we expect it to be a large undisclosed number
alright that sounds good
whats the differenc ebetween EU adn NA right now? seems like their is a difference but im not versed well yet on promotions and alphas a nd such
what is the VAT
I've backed out several times due to the big VAT taxing on items, ugh.
oh right
Drop Xolla or what the name is?
Can't legally skip vat though
Not for Norway. I mean they have said everything should be taxed, but most payment services don't apply for some reason.
how does VAT factor. im confused tbh
Also the taxes done there seems to be quite high, not sure it really is the correct taxes?
on a subscription?
Ye, but like states have different VATs, just like EU countries.
oh i gotcha, makes sense explained that way
according to my 30 sec google search it should be around 17 euro as the standard
Wait, since UK wont be in EU anymore, does that mean we aint getting the VAT BS? π
Thatβs probably not something any of us can answer lol
True π
will there be anything like achievements/collection type stuff in the game for e-peen comparison?
what are character wipes?
Reset all progress done, yea..
oh gotcha
@raw shuttle there will also be leaderboards for a bunch of things as well that they will track. you can see more over on the wiki at https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Leader_boards
how can you reserve a name?
if it is part of your package there will be a point in time where you will have access to reserve a name.
ok thanks
when the time comes. be rdy
is there a client to download in the mean time or will the download come with the alpha email
No client unless your a KS backer who is PI+.
when did the KS end. a while ago right?
May 2017
ok thought so
how to I get into the Alpha?
https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop -> Where Intrepid sells pre-order packs.
I see that you cant change secondary class on the fly, but is there a cost or cooldown period? If I wanted to could I change every 5 minutes?
Any idea if the cost will scale the more you do it? Similar to WoW classic
or current wow, idk how they do it
what was Tulnar? was it ever a real thing or jabaited info?
oh but we havnt seen it yet?
okay thank you
Does xp loss happen normally I.E when not corrupted
@midnight crag You rack up xp debt for any death, PvE/non-combatant deaths give normal xp debt, Consensual PvP death gives reduced xp debt, corrupt players get increased xp debt.
So what happens when you reach max? can you delevel?
no.
@midnight crag You don't delevel, but your abilities can reduce in power with enough xp debt
in which chanel can i search for an spanish guild? ;P
thx ^^ also why my name has been changed on the discord xDDD
The discord doesn't allow unique characters in name.
ok thx ;P
where can you pre-order the game?
is the lowest 75$?
Will there be rested experience? Also will you be able to get experience through things like gathering professions
keep in mind you are backing the game similar to KS by purchasing a pack now. There is no guarantee a game will come out, so its not really a pre-order. That is why even Steven is careful about encouraging people to put money in at this point. If you just want to play when the game comes out, there is no box cost and will just be a $15 sub. @tough adder
@dreamy garnet yes there will be rested XP at taverns and such.
ah ok thx for the info
@dreamy garnet I think we will have rested experience
What about professions? will gathering ones give XP?
Elaborate on experiencing gathering professions please.
im willing to bet this questions been asked a lot in here and i do apologize but when does the game come out?
Unknown as of now
@dreamy garnet there are multiple ways to gain XP professions is just one of them
Predicted 2-3 years full release
Well for example in modern wow you can mine different materials and you get an amount of XP from each one you mine
oh ok
I'm trying to take a look so I don't spout BS on ashes wiki lol.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes @dreamy garnet
ashes wiki is currently having issues, Lex is in the process of upgrading hardware so it may take some time
Don't know if that answers your questions, but it might.
I should be making use of 101 while wiki is down.
there will be a lv cap?
yes
i want to ask about the summoner class, in all rpg style game, even tabletop games or roleplaying fantasy sites, summoner always has been my favourite class, but in mmos its difficult to balance in my opinion and im curious about how the class will work ^^ im curious about how the summons will work, if they will change when lvling, if they will have skins, and if they will change depending on wich secondary class you pick xD
We have no idea as of now.
@rocky bear that's just not information we have at this time. we'll get more information on the classes down the road
yeah thats why im asking xD
ok thats what i though, so if you become a necromancer your summons will become undead cretures or something lke that right?
what if the secondary class its the summoner?
nice and the same for the other classes like the beastmaster forest creatures or simliar?
nice ^^ im very hyped and i want to try all the combinations right know xDDD
sadly i don't have enough money to buy the pre-order pack adn play the alphas and give my support to the project adn my thoughts about the actual state of the game π¦ but anyways there is a channel or some site to give suggestions for the game? π π
official forums
yeah i have readed and watched all the possible info i could xD
@simple ether you want me to ask more questions? xD
Lol
Stupid question
But if we do the beta test do we keep our progress when game goes live?
Ok
Is there a chance that the packs for Alpha 2 could "sell out" and become unavailable before or during Alpha 2? Currently I'm concern about the prospect of Alpha 2 becoming unavailable if demand for Alpha 2 reaches too high of a level (this could very well never happen, but it could).
Question from a roleplayer: will the number of characters in the chat box per post be comparable to say, WoW or FFXIV? Being able to make small paragraphs in an emote channel makes a big difference to those interested in immersive storytelling. I've played a few games where the chat limit was miniscule and it made RP almost impossible.
Awesome π
Are you going to make an spanish part on the channels of the discord, like with french, german etc... i think that could join a little bit the spanish community of the game ^^
If there is enough demand they will
ok thx for the quick answers ^^
what classes will be available in alpha ?
How could you obtain the different mounts? apart of the skins that you buy from the shop with real money, the main ones are obtained via quests, traders, achievements or something else? Beacause what i have understood in the interviews and forums is that the rare mounts, apart of the horses and typical mounts, are skins that you put to your mounts right?
only?
but the only way to obtain the mounts is via taming or buying them from other players?
ok, and in the game you can buy cosmetics with real money right? what kind of cosmetics? only armor and weapon skins?
so there will be mounts and other cosmetics that can only be obtained by the cosmetic shop
does anyone know if crafters who own of a freehold or apartment, can place a vendor npc to sell there wares while they are offline?
awesome
To any developer who is making this interesting game i have a couple ideas or questions i would love to run by you
yeah skins = cosmetics for me xDD
anyone knows how "fluid" the combat system will be? i never could get into other mmos but wow because the combat feels clunky
They did say itβll be a mix of action and tab targeting and action style mmo combat tends to be a bit more βfluidβ feeling
and when you are talking about mount skins, its like if you have a horse the skin will be like a pegasus or a unicorn for example or if you have a bear a panda for example?
so any tier 1 mount can look like another via skins ?
another tier 1
yeah im talking about looking not funcionality
@crystal beacon it apparently is gonna take around 45ish days to reach max level so 2 days isnβt that much
i personally dont like that you can change the looking of your mount to any other of the same tier π¦ i would prefer if there are diferent mounts
Wouldn't it be less p2w to just let anyone who wants to buy into the headstart? People in headstart will have a nice level advantage which will give them an advantage when node system is enabled no?
45 for a casual player xD
2 days will def give an advantage
the persons who have the hs are not casuals in my opinion xD
Since you got manipulate the market in a sense
yeah but those servers will be pretty empty cause anyone want to play in a server with people with advantages
HS will give an advantage but it will hopefully level out
most people on a HS server will be the players with HS anyway. so its not that big of a deal not to mention traditional launch day wait times that will surely exist. its a minor issue in the grand scheme of things.
that's like saying the players who can play 16hrs a day for a week versus the average player is a problem. its never going to be perfectly balanced.
lets say there are 20 servers and 3 of them have a 2 day head start ... and that head start nodes wont be active so its not a really big head start ...
can you transfer thing from a server to another?
nice
yeah i think that its a little bit useless the hs thing xD
its pay to experience xD
2 days is not enough to trash an econ on a fresh game
i thing that beta and aplha testers have an advantage from the experience they got on the game but thats a normal thing and i understand it ^^
the hs players could get materials and add thos materials into the nodes when the game launches right?
bro if you wannna have mre than one player thats going to be a lot of time xD
@remote narwhal ok nice
its like 200h to max a player so hardcore players probbably in 1-2 weeks in my opinion
character*
nope
not bad
I played old old Everquest online Adventures back in the day that level system was old school but man it took days upon days to level if its half that it will take a while. I remember when you died in that game you went into experience debt then had to pay off that debt to go back into the green so u can level again. I enjoyed that system but man did it take long to level
i dont care how much long it takes xD i just want that they use the time correctly and laucnh the game when its ready, not before
Game should come out when its bug free fully fleshed out and fun. No game should come out broken buggy unfun and caters to the scrub
no game is ever bug free
true but if most of them are fixed thats a good game
some could be fun accidents but if there game breaking like exploits or glitches i hate that stuff
the stuff i hate is when you have a bug or glitch in a raid or dungeon and the top guild use it to get ahead should be a bannable offense.
yup agree with that
if oyur a experienced hardcore player you deserve 0 Special Treatment 0 Leeway and a extreme punishment. Where as if your just some everyday dumb dumb you should get some special treatment because you dont know what your doing
you are talking about that 40 year old mans with no job and depending on their parents to live? xD
i want to know one thing ... and that thing is ... are roll backs ever an option ? like say there is a exploit that crates a bunch of gold or dupes something. how they will handle it will they blanket ban every one that took part or do a roll back or rip the servers down put them back up once its fixed or ??
doubt they even know that till release
probbably doing nothing
im not sure but that is a problem.
a rollback is pretty difficult to do, but they would have to do that or blanket ban + lots of mod work to remove items if a bad dupe existed
it happens in lots of games and people exploit that
well the lead dev said that they have a basic data gathering on each player so if there is a strange spike in gold outside the norm or gear or whatever they are flaged and looked in to ... so they have thought about it
i just want to know how they handle reddit saying hey talk to this guy buy this and sell it to this guy and print money because of an over sight ... and then like 3000 people do it ... what will happen
I hope the developers in this game dont allow every tom dick and hairy to create their own game breaking shitty mod in the game. Like those wow turds who made the LFG MOD i hate people with terrible mod ideas
they said that there wont be addons
thats good i really dislike people who infect games by greedy turds who have 0 experience with games
yeah
you may think oh this is a great mod idea but you end up destroying and infecting what the creators did
the ones i disliked was the Looking for guild one that one was pure cancer. spam people with guild invites im like dude im not joining your shitty guild i just want to play
please keep this channel to Q&A. this needs to move to #aoc-discussion please
sorry
Thank you Pharazon
srry π¦
Feel free to use either discussion channels to continue your conversation thank you and welcome
Its okay youre new and we'll direct you so you learn your ways around our discord!
With the whole bounty hunter system idea i always really loved that idea and wanted it in a game. But i was curious if they plan to push it one step further. For example if you encounter a problamatic player and you quell him i would love to Behead his mount or pets and plant it right out front his front door as a warning saying dont mess with me again. And the player permanently loses that mount or pet lol
Bring in real world Mafia into the game lol
lol thats crazy but fun xD
Thats definitely something to post on the forums as the Devs do look there
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
Can you still back AoC on Kickstarter?
ill do that sometime soon cause man some of the crazy ideas ive had i think your doing lol
no but you can purchase packs from the intrepid store to still get access to alpha 2 and later @shell vault
Whats their website?
how long it takes to the studio to answer you on the forums aprox?
Thanks
A dev response? It varies, they may see the discussion and make note of it but not necessarily respond to it directly.
@rocky bear they don't always respond, but if you have a conversation with the community and it gains a lot of interest the devs are likely to take a look at it.
ok thanks for the attention ;P
Will there be controller support?
My brother and i have Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy, and he uses the controller, and i may have to switch to one also.
it would be awesome if you could add controller support (change any button, to any bind).
It is not a promised feature at this time. I believe the last statement on controller support said it would be something they look to add closer to launch. So its something being considered but no guarantee.
@wet mountain you might be able to use a program like x360ce to bind your skill bar to different controller buttons though. But that might break the terms of service and get you banned
Hey I was curious if there was a way to become a GM/in-game moderator? I've been following this game for a while and have a ton of faith in it and would love to be a part of it all.
if there is there would be nothing at this time
Figured it would probably be closer to beta/release time, but wanted to get the question in. π
I would check their careers page if there is anything it would be there
One last question, im not sure if its been answered but if I buy a pre-order now, would I be able to buy the cosmetics from previous months? Or only ones after?
from the point you purchase and forward only
awe darn. I knew I should of sprung for the pre-order sooner. Ok thank you!
yep np
Hello, new to AoC, very excited to be here. Is there a place to see all the previous pre-order cosmetic bundles to see what Iβve missed out on? Trying to decide if I want to purchase the current set or hold out for a different theme based on previous bundles. Thanks!
www.ashesofcreation.wiki has a list as well, though its currently been hugged to death and is in the process of being upgraded.
I had a similar question to that Toorc
I was looking into purchasing one of the packages for early access and I realized that the cosmetics in the packages change monthly and was wondering if you purchased a package would you be able to get past/future cosmetics from those packages or would you have to re buy the package again for that monthly cosmetic bundle. I love cosmetics in a game so of course its a bigger deal to me if I like the theme or not but I don't wanna wait too long and miss out on the Alpha 2 access window. Thank you in advance for the responses/answers! β€οΈ
Okay so I just pay for the new cosmetics each month if I please, thank you very much!
hi there! Im new and got a question, since the announcement of unreal engine 5 do you guys think the AOC team will transition over to UE5 eventually since they've said they're going to make it easy for developers to do so?
they are monitoring all new technologies including UE5 but nothing has been confirmed at this time.
ok cool π Thanks Pharazon!
Hi!
With the pre-order head starts being 1/2 days as a player that likes to min-max it kind of forces me to buy the 500dollar pack, which really sucks becuase i don't like p2w. Have there been a statement on this issue or do people not see an head start as a p2w mechanic?
how is that P2W? no core system are in place during the Headstart, also there will on be 3 servers that have HS on them
u can gain XP but nodes are disabled
It is not viewed by intrepid as P2W and is something they are going to have. As Jahlon said you don't have to play on a HS server and after a few weeks any advantage they may have had will be next to nothing.
is there alpha or beta testing that backing the game gives access to? and if so is it open most of the time or does it only come up for people to test rarely, loving the look of this game!
right now the testing is time slotted
but Alpha 2 will be persistent unless that has changed
and u can buy into Alpha 2 from their website
testing is currently pre-alpha with full alpha 1 starting this fall to add to what shadow mentioned
Only A2 is promised to be persistent, A1/B1/B2 are set up with testing time slots, A2 will continue running throughout B1/B2
^it will be or was stated to be the PTR server
if i buy acess into the beta in the shop right now could i play now
Will there be any class to do with plague or something similar? I play affliction warlock in wow and have a DeathGuard army in 40k so it would be cool
we don't have that level of detail at this time, but with classes like the necromancer as an option it's possible.
When browsing for servers, will world event times and siege times be shown when picking a server?
don't know that for sure but seems likely considering how important prime time for a server will be to core systems. might be a good question to submit for the next livestream when they put the Q&A thread for it up.
im guessing it will be region based but who knows that would be something good for the Forums
but might be too early to even answer
Q&A thread? Where can I find that. Also where are the live streams held?
As far as the summoner archetype goes, has it been decided whether the summons will have AI, or will they need some to a lot of micromanaging?
live streams are held on Twitch
and the Q/A channel for the Livestream will open befpore a livestream so they can accumulate questions
Awesome, thanks guys.
Is this the spot for class questions?
Not a lot is known about the classes at this time, but this channel is for questions of any kind.
Okay, I accidentally cut in above. Any info on the summoners summons as far as them being AI or manually controlled?
@storm venture Sounds like at least a bit of both from past quotes, probably more Ai controlled I'd guess.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner mostly sounds like you will play through your pet so manually controlled though auto attacking is probably a given and moving to attack a target
(The wiki is down until tomorrow while it's migrated to new hardware)
Okay, thanks!
relevant bit from the wiki
When Does early Access Begin for the MMORPG, What are the requirements for Early Access, Does it cost $$ to get Early Access?
i see na + oce mods. will there be oce servers?
access to the alphas and betas are part of packages that can be purchased on the store, so yes to early access costing money.
with starlink shipping on 2021~2022 worldwide could we expect a global server or we're going to get location locked ones? I imagine that with starlink available ping will be a non issue in a few years.
@restive karma there will be OCE servers but they will not be brought online until the betas if I am remembering correctly.
@fast owl https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048506033-What-are-the-minimum-requirements-for-Alpha-
A1 officially begins in Fall near the end of the year, Most people with testing access have paid for it, but Intrepid has given a small number of keys away through contests.
sounds good!
@undone lichen servers are location based but not region locked so you can play on any server as long as you have an appropriate account
cool
@simple ether I know, but with starlink connections will be faster than end to end fiber optics.
Quick question, at what level do you unlock mounts?
How fast are they like how wow mounts are like 60% faster
I figured since the world is huge and has no quick travel it should be like lvl 10 or so
@undone lichen The servers will be localized, the servers are only meant to be able to handle about 8k concurrent players which partially has to do with things like Mayoral postions/castle ownership/freehold housing etc. Servers are meant to develop differently from each other, in a way that doesn't want to just have a single mega server - Important events like Sieges are also scheduled to run at server prime times as opposed to globally. There aren't region locks though so you can play on a server on the other side of the world from you if you want.
@stable plover cool! thanks!
@grim plinth You could find some examples of people riding ground mounts in videos, but I don't think people have done something like running a certain distance on and off mount while timing it to figure out the exact increase in speed. Or at least I don't know what those results were ;p Also I think mount speed is supposed to be one of the adjustable factors in mount breeding.
@honest cairn the quest to get a mount is said to be in the starting area so early likely means something in line with what you are thinking
So basically if u dont have Early Acsess already u wont get it for sure anymore? @stable plover @simple ether
@fast owl If you mean the 1/2 day headstart server access that was only available during KS
Oh ok the mounts donβt seem as horribly slow as the basic lvl 20 ones in WoW so thatβs pretty rad
KS HS?
I only just watch a video o nthis game today
from TheLazyPeon
oh
oh so its doomed
unlucky
well Early Access wont be available to everyone, and I dont have a KS so
@fast owl If your after like Alpha 2 / beta 1/2 access Intrepid sells it included in packs here https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
Will servers be labeled as headstart, or do we not have any info on that?
What do u mean by a non HS server
Aight, Didn't know this, Thanks Jahlon!
@fast owl Only some servers will be on for the headstart, others will be newly created on launch.
oh
So you can just ignore the headstart servers.
so hes saying just wait till it ful lreleases?
wait so
The Early access
is only for 2 days earlier
than the Real Launch
Yes.
for ppl to play on non HS servers
On a Non HS server you don't have to worry about anything as everyone is on the same playing field.
if you are thinking of Early Access like a Fortnite Early access then you need to throw that out the window. Ashes will have Alphas and Betas for testing and then move to launch with a 2 day Head start period. More traditional development path.
oh i thought it was like how
WoW Classic had
an early access where ppl played it for awhile
till the Real Classic released
Beta and Alpha will not be saved.
The headstart will be saved but you'll be able to play on a non headstart server.
From my understanding.
That would be Alpha and Beta testing and no progress transfers over. You can get access to that testing by purchasing a package on the Intrepid Store.
Beta and Alpha is just for the experience and bug testing.
Its noted in the package what access you get
yes but its not a play it ahead of it coming out. it will likely be timed testing (except Alpha 2 which is persistent) focused on finding bugs and adding polish to the game.
^
Is the summoner class planned to be really centered around summons similarly to the summoner class in DOS 2 or is it more of a mage that just happens to have a permanent summon around?
@main rose the relevant bit from the wiki I linked above
@main rose It's been described as living and breathing through the summon. It's one of the classes we know the least about atm though.
Oh heck yeah.
So basically, summoners are like a different version of whatever secondary class they pick? For example, doing summoner with a secondary ranger will basically make you a different kind of ranger in a sense, right? Same for the other 7 classes.
As it's been described, it would add ranger elements to it. In this case, probably something that would make your summons more beast-like.
You will get to augment your summoner abilities with your secondary class. Adding cleric may add some self/summon healing to your abilities for example.
How varied will the food be in Ashes of Creation? There's pineapple pizza in WoW which restores no health and reduces stamina by 5% for 30 seconds?
for example
This is also my way of asking you if you like pineapple on pizza
@surreal zodiac We don't have exact details on food variety, other than that there will be a variety and it will give different types of buffs.
okay
About bards, the way their buffs were explained was that they had an area of effect around them for that. The maximum of people in one raid per team was also said to be 250 persons. Now my question is, is there a limit to how many persons can be buffed at once? Or could there just be 250 bards buffing each other into insanity?
You will have 8 people in your group. Think of raid groups like the 24 man raids in FFXIV
The alliance is made up of multiple groups
So bards will only be able to buff people in their own groups?
It will likely be something that is figured out during testing but I think its fairly safe to assume that without targeting someone specifically that it would default to only accessing people in your group.
I would also expect the same buffs not to stack even on the single target ones. But that is more of a balancing issue that won't really be addressed until much later.
so is it alpha one or alpha two testing in august and is the only way we can participate by buying the pre order packs?
Alpha 1, and as far as I know, yes, only by buying
Except currently you can only buy Alpha 2
august testing isn't full alpha 1. It will include more early backers but actual Alpha 1 for all alpha 1 backers is in the fall. Alpha 2 is the earliest testing currently available in the packages in the shop.
but there will be streams and videos about alpha 1 right? No NDA froom what I've heard
correct no NDA on the Alphas or betas. There is currently a Visual NDA for the early testing being done by the PI backers but there have been some write ups of their experience put out.
is there any possible way to get into alpha 1 testing?
not currently. Steven said that after Alpha 1 starts they may open it back up for purchase but that is not confirmed. At this time Alpha 2 is the earliest available.
What if someone purchases the 375$ bundle simply because its the earliest out? As in they open alpha 1 up however i already purchased the alpha2 pack?
Im sure its more of a "cross that bridge eventually" type of ordeal
@sick eagle Intrepid allows package upgrades from one level to another by paying the difference, presumably I'd expect that to be the case if they did decide to sell more A1 keys
I've been paying closer attention to aoc recently since it resurfaces again with wow community finally seeing it. Considering sieges etc are going to be timegated, does anyone know how AoC combats people attacking themselves in order to trigger these timegates?
You can't attack yourself. Someone unaffiliated with your node has to go through a long quest process to get a declaration to start the siege.
Its not something easily accomplishable
Eh, if you are a strong guild I can see people farming up the siege declarations with relative ease
@keen tartan Anyone can join in on a node siege regardless of who started it, so starting a siege against yourself just saves people from having to gather the extensive resources to start it.
with alt accounts, that is
Does Intrepid have any unpaid internships for game design students one could apply for?
You can check their careers page
will there be another beta/alpha that i can buy into
I see, that seems to be less of an issue then, thanks for clearing that out @stable plover
alpha 2 and beyond are still available in packages you can purchase from the store. Only Alpha 1 is no longer accessible.
@solemn otter They at least have in the past, they tend to work with the game design programs of the colleges local to them though.
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How do I purchase cosmetics with embers? I just purchased one of the packages and im not quite sure how to access the cosmetic shop
If you purchased a package it will have come with cosmetics. Embers will be used to buy cosmetics in the game.
what computer specs are you gonna need to play this?
@west ridge https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048506033-What-are-the-minimum-requirements-for-Alpha- -- Specs could increase as testing goes, I'd definitely lean towards the recommended specs for a good experience, the minimum specs are more like 'I guess a computer might theoretically be able to launch A1 with those specs'
how much is this monthly cuz i looked at the faq and it just says its not upfront its a monthly payment
$15
Thanks! I have 8gb so ill be just fine
15$ and no box cost. like wow shadowlands u need a sub AND buy shadowlands for 60$ but here just 15$ which is pretty lit
Yea that gets me super excited for sure.
For all the OCE players. Can someone please give an overall answer to Oceanic based server/ potential for one at this point?
only thing i'll miss is paying for sub with ingame money, but i understand how it has a toll on the economy
there will be one bard
just not for beta
@wary frost There will be OCE/SEA servers, but the location of the servers hasn't been confirmed as being in Australia.
is there a eta for beta 2
I just purchased the $75 pack, do you guys have an estimate on when beta two will come for us?
@acoustic coyote We don't have dates for anything after A1 yet, B2 will probably be quite a ways off though.
grey, did they say the server will be oce&sea or separate?
@stable plover thanks mate. Couldnβt find an answer using Search so that should help π
@stable plover How long eta until official release?
@midnight vale I'd reccomend popping 'from: Steven#8582 oce' into the searchbar, bit of a complicated history there (also the SEA version)
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The release is at september 24th, right?
@crystal beacon Sep 24th sounds like a date previously announced for APOC in a previous year - APOC is currently on a break until sometime after A1 launch - We just know A1's full launch should be in 'Fall' near the end of the year, Pre-A1 test scheduled for August featuring Leader of Men
What server did Steven Sharif play on in L2?
I was an OG Bartz player just wondering if I knew his clan.
if I get the 75$ package which includes beta acess when it is out and I get 2 months of game time, playing in the beta wont take that game time away right?
(sorry for all the questions but I am hyped)
Correct
Game time only applies once the game releases
All beta and alpha progress will be wiped on release
thank you
Quick question, in terms of difficulty scaling, nothing irritates me more than a mob that is literally invincible to your level. As in you miss every single hit or it says immune or something. Is that going to be present in this or can I get a group of friends and try to level in more difficult areas for challenge
^ It's probably too early for us to really know the answer to that. In the pre-alpha stuff you could fight stronger stuff to level a bit faster with groups, but to what extent is yet to be seen.
Hey as long as it's an option honestly. I would love to be able to actually level with my friends instead of play a solo level experience you know while in a call xD
im watching the vid with the dev and summit and shroud and he said that its not lvl based u can fight things higher lvl with ur friends but itll be a challange
Will AoC have a free version?
doubtful
When will we see some class previews?
i think they showed it
well like we know the classes but not the abilities
@halcyon crown APOC will come back as sort of F2P minigame testing modes, but the MMO itself doesn't intend to have a free version.
will apoc combat the the same as aoc?
i have a question that might sound dumb but can you not have a class, like can i just be a merchant?
you will have a class, but you dont need to level
can you hide it?
@jaunty raptor thanks!
Does it matter in which way you choose a class? for example If you choose a Wizard then a rogue vs Rogue then wizard?
or can everyone see your class all the time?
I think so tril
thats cool so theres gonna be more than 100 class variations
What is the price for subscriptions and do you get a discount for subscribing for more months?
15$ per month
no box cost
so like dont have to buy the game for 60$ and a 15$ sub like wow. just a 15$ sub and u good to go
im trying to pre order but my intrepid account keeps saying its out dated
Are there discounts if you subscribe for like 1 year at once?
anyone know about this???
ahh ok thank you
Will there be things like the wow tokens you can buy to add extra sub time?
thanks @jaunty raptor
Hello is there still a opportunity to become a lifetime subscriber for ashes of creation?
Iβve seen thereβs $400+ kickstarter packages and itβs been stated there will be no P2W which is great. However having some of the coolest mounts/cosmetics come from paying irl money is disheartening and annoying for a lot of players. This happens a lot in other mmorpgs and prominently in WoW the last couple years.
How will the addition of paying for cosmetics prevent other players who donβt pay real money to stand out and have the same chances of getting these mounts? Will it be possible to trade in-game currency for embers? It would be sad to see some of the coolest mounts and cosmetics be locked behind a paywall imo
Sorry for wording etc Iβm on my phone π
I want to be part of the lifetime subscription and wish i had back them up when the opportunity was available.
Hi, what about daily quests? π
Thanks for answering, Iβll keep an eye out and Iβm excited to learn more about the game π
On a full server, how many guilds and nodes will there be roughly?
so there will be daily quests, that give small boost (literally quests that give higher rewards than normal quests from from nodes) ?
Whats the least clan size needed to take over a node?
and will there be a system that summarizes the missed daily quests, so you can complete them later?
for example if i have the opportunity at day 1 to complete 2 daily quests but I did not play, can i complete 4 daily quests at day 2?
What percentage of players are expected to be in a guild?
Any idea how many class skills we'll have, or if we'll be able to use them all?
(How many skills per class, I mean. Sorry about that)
maximum amount of skills that you can use (not passives), and the average?
I can keep questions going all day, but thanks for the answers
@sterile mountain Yes
@limpid gull yes
@jaunty raptor are you ok with difficult questions?
what about the inflation?
of the currency
well... bars don't tell much tbh, in some games you need to use 15buffs and after that combat with 2 skills, in other games you can see 1 bar with 12 skills that are constantly used
do you remember what podcast it was?
ok
Asmons interview also mentioned the world manager
Not really meaningful in most games if you die, or do trade runs.
There are many real and fictional locations that are almost impossible to siege. How many natural defenses and additional fortifications are possible?
On skills, is it true you can upgrade them with skill points or something similar? Is there a limit?
Hi guys. Sorry to ask but a mate of mine is super keen for the game and I am looking at getting him the $150 pack as its all I can afford. Is it possible to buy it and gift it? Also if I got that pack for him can he upgrade to the $250 when he gets the money? Terribly sorry if this gets asked a lot.
Aww man
the game is highly social based. To play the end game content you will need a guild.
the question is, what kind of game mechanics helps players find others to build a guild?
When he's ready to buy you will have to give cash I guess
@icy goblet Create an account, buy and give the account to him.
when is the Beta Two testing phase
That's the closest thing to gifting you can have right now.
True could do that. And he is able to upgrade the account easy enough?
@static pivot Not for a long time, we aren't even in Alpha 1 yet
is there a way to check what pre order package i have?
@jaunty raptor ehm... mb I did not question it the right way...
most games have an issue with creating new guilds, because it is difficult for new players to have the same goal as you as you progress to the max lvl.
the obvious answer to my question was dungeons for low-mid level players, but is there anything else?
sorry my englando is terrible
what tab would it be under? i see shop profile home and order history, and i dont see it in any of them
ahhh
thanks π
@icy goblet Should be, yes.
@jaunty raptor i m in no rush you can always answer me the latest
wym level based
My understanding is while something does level up with the node, a different part of the node stays or goes back to being an "entry" area
yeah, that is what i heard
Like the entire node shifts, it doesnt all just go up at once
Well if you havent already, watch summit and asmon talk to Steven. They ask very good questions that they dont usually answer outright.
i m currently watching summit at x2 speed to find about inflation
summit's more on the pvp aspect. Asmon gets pretty in-depth about things and getting a well rounded answer. Its an hour and 1/2 long though
44 min through so far lmfao
watched already
So is there no way to purchase the 500+ dollar packages anymore?
No
Steven said if Alpha 1 was stable with 10k, he might reconsider selling A1 again, but lots of incertitudes
^^
thanks, 53 min is the right timing π
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bye, thanks
do i have to pay to play ?
Like right now, or when the game comes out?
oh its not out yet ?
You will have to pay either way.
It wont be out for at least 2 years
The game will have $15 monthly sub with no box cost (meaning no need to buy game, just pay for sub)
^
And no, it's not out yet. You're looking at 2-3 years of development time.
welp ok... π guess il see ya in 3-2 years then...
btw does the sub thing mean i have to pay every month to play the game ?
Yes.
wow thats expensive game
Is there a current testing phase or is the game between public/closed testing phases at the moment?
Have you never played an mmo?
no :/ not real one atleest
The game's no more expensive than WoW and WoW requires you to pay for the base game + every expansion thereafter at a 60 dollar fee
Cheers @grim breach
ye ik about wow thats why i dont play it
and already people played it 20k hour+ no point
@ebon bobcat Currently, no. There have been some testing phases, closed to the Phoenix Initiative members. August is planned to have Leaders of Men backers as well. It's all just Alpha 1 currently. No dates for Alpha 2. Alpha 2 can still be bought from the store.
To properly quantify how much money a game costs you only need to break it down to how much you play the game. $15 a month is expensive if you play once a month for an hour. If you play 3-4 times a week for even just one hour at a time then you can break it down to just over 1$ per hour of entertainment per month
hey, im looking at my inventory for two different tracking codes for the same item twice, does that mean i have 2 of that item?
or you could play another game you already payed for years ago and buy energy drinks to drink per hour π€
@grim breach I'll keep an ear to the ground until it becomes more widely tested. I'll admit I have a healthy scepticism about new MMO's and games in general that come with so many promises.
@crystal beacon Maybe. If unsure and you really want to know about it, contact support.
@crystal beacon What's the item in question? If you don't mind sharing
a1 key @crystal flax
is there any other good mmos i can start playing in mean time ? π thats not to old and dont cost crap tons of money ?
@ebon bobcat The plan is to have 10k A1 backers to test the game. There are 10k A1 backers, we don't know how many will participate but it's a large number. Also, there won't be NDA, so yes it is safer to just wait and see for now.
Swordbrand Cloak for example in my case @crystal flax
Swordbrand Cloak is something that you can claim multiple times but I don't think it will be duplicated. I think I've asked this before, I can't remember the answer. 
Okito thanks
can anybody tell me what a control tank is, as opposed to a shield tank?
is there a way like on a wiki page or somewhere to see what each 2 class combo mainly does (like their roles and what the difference is )
The nuances of how they'll all work hasn't been finalized yet, just know that your primary will still determine your role, the secondary just changes how you perform that role
Just curious, If I purchase the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack, does that let me play in the alpha that's supposedly happening later this year? or is it a later alpha test?
That is for A2 which is coming later on, the one coming up in Fall is A1
so for example taking mage as a primary and rogue as a secondary vs opposite order is it a big difference?
Mage primary, you're doing magic things in a sneaky way
Rogue primary, you're doing sneaky things in a magic way
The primary determines what your base is and the secondary changes that base a bit, so yes they would be a big difference
alright thx
oh also, how does picking the same class impact your class. Is it a dumb thing to do, for example getting a primary and mage secondary?
honestly im thinking of going tank on tank
i imagine its gonna just be the best main tank class
We don't have specifics on that yet but they wouldn't make it a dumb choice, will likely just double up on that specific archetype's identity
ye im on the same spot @spark flume either tank/tank or fighter/tank
but the info on fighter is very slim.. so im waiting
@sly monolith yeah im wondering what tanking will look like in open world things
i dont really understand how it works
it seems you can go 2hander tank aswell.. so im wondering how that will work out
yeah, i'd love it if they add a 2h hammer
not sure if weapon swapping in battle is a thing
dude that's awesome
i want to see what its like swapping shield out for a 2h or somth
You carry two active weapons and one ranged equipped.
Steven mentioned in I think it was Summit's stream that you can swap weapons, but not armor mid combat
does a sheild count as a weapon?
So two melee and one ranged I believe it is right now.
Not sure. Played mage. Would need to ask one of the PI who played tank. But this is for questions of a more general nature. I recommend taking it to discussion or general for further stuff.
Will ask and PM you there.
do we know anything about the buffing system?
It was said that there might be a possibility to get alpha 1 access with preorder packs. Should I buy one of current preorder packs or wait for other ones to get released?
either way, if you buy now you can upgrade later
also you can buy individual cosmetics from future packs, which is pretty handy
I have arthritis, some mmos are close to unplayable for me at a serious level. How repetitive can Ashes be?
I'm blind can ashes of creation give me back my eyes ?
If you purchase the $250 Package, yes.
Amazing this game truly does everything
Thatβs only if youβre a casual. Buy the 375$ one if you want to see everything in 3D 
So the $250 and $375 packs might gain alpha 1 access?
That was still a big if, but even so we don't know how they'd do it yet
Oof ignored
@copper hound They are planning different levels of support for those with disabilities. For example colorblind options and others. There is controller support also for those that have problems with keyboards or need other devices mapped.
Sick
@grizzled fjord no, if they do start selling A1 again it will be a different pack that you can upgrade to
I don't mind paying for it, just wanted to be able to play this fall if/when a1 happens
They will likely make it a news post, just keep an eye out for it
Yeah, I imagine if he does open it back up it will sell out pretty quick.
Oops. Forgot I was in questions.
Do they post news other places than discord?
Will there be an API for ingame Addons like in WoW?
Hard no
forgive me if this has been posted somewhere, I havent been able to find it yet. When is the next beta? I bought the 75 dollar pack and I am really keen to try.
They have addressed the API thing several times. While there are legitimate uses for people to have access, there are also bad actors that use it.
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I bought a package on the intrepid store a few months ago, I am from europe. I learned about some other kind of store that is supposedly the european store. Did I buy a package in the wrong place?
Nope
It is actually better to own through the US Intrepid site at the moment because My.Games is having issues with cosmetic sales.
Can I choose to stay on intrepid store later? my.com website looks kind of.. weird to say the least.
Yes
Cool, thanks!
But you will have to play on US servers.
Would this be the right place to ask questions regarding a career at intrepid? I'm looking to apply but I'm from europe and I don't know whether intrepid offers relocation/visum packages. Is this the right place to ask? Or should I send an email to the jobs email address?
@crystal beacon https://intrepidstudios.com/careers
There are very specific legal and logistical reasons for the My.Games partnership. I recommend looking at TheLazyPeon video from around the time the deal was inked.
Will do, thanks for the info.
@crystal flax thanks, I've read that but it doesn't state anything about relocation from outside US
That would be specific to your situation. No one here would be able to help you. The link he gave you is where you should target your correspondence.
Would probably need to ask Margaret once she comes online about that, or an email as you initially stated
I'll just send them an email. I'd hoped to do this through chat since it's easier. Thanks for the help
Working from home is also a viable option that they've been having a hand in considering the state of the world lately
not sure if this was asked but is there gonna be a server good for aussie? as ESO servers are laggy as for me.
True, but Steven also stated yesterday that after the wfm issues are done that staff will be required to be on site in San Diego.
We get Sea servers Rax
awesome
@raven quiver There are SEA/OCE servers planned. The final placement for them has yet to be determined.
Good morning! I may be very blind, but is there a estimated release for the alpha two testing?
Copy that, thank you! been debating on spending the 375 for access to alpha 2
If you don't like the cosmetics that are in the current packs you can always wait for them to change too, which is usually monthly
Cool! thank you!
With the amount of playable classes with all the variations and the second part being obtained during levelling further, will there be an option to try out different classes without having to level them? For example some trial for the combination you would be interrested in?
i think the mount this month looks really cool
@sly umbra the $250 pack has alpha two access too, no?
yes
look @ details tab
im waiting to buying anything atm.. its too long away still.. they might do something with the packs
Hey guys, I'm sure this is a really frequent question but I'm gonna ask anyway. Does anybody know where I can check to see estimated dates for alpha/beta phases?
The only date we have for sure is A1 this fall
Any ideas on server locations (primarily in the US)?
yeah thats my question aswell
im in Australia but i play BDO on the US servers just fine, should i be fine to play on the US AOC servers or are the quality of the servers bad thus making it unplayable?
The wiki is dying from all the new people and I can't find the specifics, but for the US I believe there was going to be an East and West server
SEA/OCE servers are planned but the final location for them hasn't been decided yet
I think so but I can't remember for certain
ok ty
Appreciate the info @crystal flax
also if i invest in the alpha 2 package or invest in the beta or whatever on the US servers, upon the release of OCE could i server transfer?
I'm pretty sure those are just tied to your Intrepid account so there won't be anything to transfer since they're still planning to self publich in OCE
sick ty @crystal flax
@fading estuary You can only change the secondary class but it's not going to be a one-click change from the UI. You will most likely have to find an NPC in a town to ask them to change your secondary class. Your primary class is locked once chosen.
I know that right.. but if lets say I would like to try cleric + ranger or ranger + cleric, I have no idea how the subclass combines the 2 (which one fits my playstyle better and what I would like to do)
then you will have to make 2 characters and try it out π
if you get the subclass half way, that's not time well spent for just testing you know
Whatβs the max level in alpha
I have a question: If 2 parties of players attack the same mob will the one who got the first hit in get the loot/XP, is the loot/XP split or what is the system for that? This is espeacially interesting since 80% of dungeons won't be instanced.
@crystal beacon specifics regarding those kind of systems are unknown as of this time iirc
@boreal abyss ok thanks
is to play free alpha?
no
So Ik there is a relgion system. is there a list of gods? And will there be some that are good neutral and evil? Like if someone chose an evil god for that town how will it effect the town
Not a complete list of Gods no, your best way would be to check the Wiki.
There will be "evil gods", unsure about neutral ones.
Effect of choosing "evil god" (or any god) on a town is unknown.
Does transporting a caravan make you a combatant?
will this game have rating based pvp arenas?
@dreamy garnet in the pvp field around the caravan yes (defender)
so when will we be able to play alpha?
later this year sometime for those with access
I actually forgot to ask. Will the combat be sped up further from what we currently have? The gameplay footage that we have shows combat being a bit slow. At least imho
Most likely it will change, this is just an early iteration
However, they do want TTK to be a bit long so that strategy and skill comes more into play iirc
so do we have a certain amount of time to buy a alpha key or can i buy 1 when the alpha drops?
TTK being longer is fine, as long as combat as fast. Personally not into the slower type of combat so I wanted to ask
A1 keys are not sold at this moment
they might open up sale of it later on if testing goes well andthey want to increase it
@crystal beacon you will have to wait and see, not even in Alpha 1 yet so is still a long road ahead
Is this game going to have a pay for gold service like bond in runespace or apex in archeage?
Nope, game will be anti P2W in every sense of the word
Will you be available to trade cosmetics?
not the cash shop ones
Nope, they're tied to your account
What's the cheapest amount I could pay to play the game either this year or next
Can't pay anything to play the game this year, and next year is pretty much certain unless everything sets on fire that Alpha 2 will be out
You could also cross your fingers and hope that Beta 1 will be out late late next year.
but that's not a guarantee
If beta 1 did come out how much would it be
Also do you need the subscription while playing in the alpha and betas
is the going to be a labor system like Archeage?
Nope
Do we have any dates for the alpha 2 yet i am considering buying the Voyager Pre-Order Package
Not yet, speculation is some time next year
The only solid date we have is A1 this Fall
And there is no package that gets you access to A1 right ?
Not currently, Steven talked about potentially opening up sales again but still undecided
Ok thanks for answering I will keep an eye out
any clue when beta 2 is out?
The only testing phase we have a clue on is A1, check my messages just above for info on that
ETA dates are provided when they are certain they can meet the dates, So testing phases beyond Alpha 1 are not being provided an ETA at this time.
what happens if i dont pay taxes
It's not a choice, it's tied into the economy
Has there been any information on creating macros?
It's not some pop up window "Pay your taxes yes/no" type thing
@sacred prairie Hard no
So there is two version of AOC? mmo and apocalypse?
Apocalypse is like a combat test
50
Oh ok π
Anyone know when Beta 1 and Beta 2 dates are yet?
The only test we have dates for is A1, this Fall
was told in fall
Ah I see the pre-order packs for B1/B2/A2 offerings, I'm assuming that's all we have/know so far aye?
Expect the betas to be significantly later than the Fall - Only Alpha 1 is starting in Fall
That's all that's currently available, previously they sold A1 in packs and there's a chance they may open them up again
How much is it again ? if paying for alpha if that what I'm reading?
$375 looks like for A2 access
Previously A1 went for $500
wtf
@soft magnet That's right
well damn ain' tno way to try it free huh? π
At some point in the future there will be Key giveaways either by Intrepid or associated Content Creators
So you can keep an eye out for those down the road
Oh ok
Hello Guys, alpha1 already launched?
I'm sure it'll be Asmon aye? lol
250 for alpha 2
Alpha 1 this Fall
the moment the game become complete it just going be free according to FAQ unless there was some update I may not be aware of ?
@soft magnet Actually $250. $375 for extra cosmetics and name reserve
The game will be subscription based, $15 monthly
@sacred prairie ah gotcha , I misread my apologies
but i think the 250 pack is really fair with the 6 month and the 100$ in store value
oh ok
Youβre good
I was down for $150 if I got early access but with no actual date in mind, I don't think I can just dump that on a whim
Yeah Iβm on the fence about it too. A2 will most likely launch next year, and I hope thatβll expedite the process a bit
(I understand no set dates) but no generalization made at all?
That seems, odd
estimatino*
estimation***
They don't want to be rushed trying to make dates they can't reach
They can't say what they don't know
They got burned in the past about making dates they couldn't keep, so now they don't unless they're sure
They don't know how alpha 1 will go, it could go really really well, or it could go badly
and delay any time they set
Some people estimate the game to launch in another 2-3 years
We should move to discussion channels as this has gone beyond #questions
Oh for an actual release I 100% agree with you guys, for pre access testing to a smaller group, who are dropping hundred+ there should be some estimation in development time etc
They don't do public estimations anymore. They used to, but when they failed to meet certain deadlines they stopped as they didn't want to make deadlines they couldn't meet anymore
They only set dates for stuff they know they can meet
Previously there were ETAs but they had a large delay and through everything off so old ETAs were wiped out and theyre playing it by ear now.
Not to mention even when ETAs are missed people became upset despite it not being a concrete date
Yea that^
It's not "setting a date" I think you're missing the point of an estimation
i think commonly asked questions should be pinned since i see a lot of the same questions asked over and over
There's an entire #faq But people won't read a question that was literally answered with the last sent message sometimes
nvm there is a faq
i just will buy the alpha 2 and then i can probably play next year. So you dont have to worry about beta or release 250$ well spent
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Will marriages be node wide events, or small two person commitments?
So, in the wiki I've noticed a mention that classes will have utility skills. Do we know anything about the scope of those skills? Is it stuff like summoning food/water like wow Mage? Portals? Lockpicking?
@tropic abyss I don't think we've heard about the size of ceremonies, just that there will be one
@karmic wave I think usually when utility skills get called out it refers to the classes adventuring utility - Mages can open up certain areas, clerics can dispel environmental effects, Tanks can view mob spawn locations, rangers can spot hidden tracks -> at least the last time we saw them π
Any information about computer requirements? Any chances for macOS users?
dumb question... but is there anyway to get into the game now? alpha 1 is on right?
Nah
A1 isn't until Fall, and can't currently be purchased
@fair talon https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048506033-What-are-the-minimum-requirements-for-Alpha- -> definitely lean towards the recommend specs for a good experience, requirements could change before release/other phases - There's very little chance for Mac support
and Alpha One starts in fall this year, so december probably
to pay for alpha 2 and wait..... hmmmm
Next month is an expansion of the pre-alpha testing pool, not the full start of A1
Will progress from the alpha/beta be deleted upon game release?
Yes
How do you check your account status? I bought braver of worlds in 2017 but it only lists the amount spent at the new system
Will alpha one have an NDA
and the date of transaction is at 2019 (which I assume when we migrated web systems)
Nevermind. I looked at inventory and saw the list of items included in my account!
if i bought a package can i get single skins (like only the mount) of future packages?
@sacred bloom the NDA will be lifted when Steven decides to lift it. We'll be told when that happens.
@echo bramble Only of your package tier and below
okay perfect thanks
Anyone know the most recent video on gameplay / info on the game. Want to make sure I am watching most recent content (if anyone knows that is) if not no biggy.
Most recent was the 4k footage I believe
That's the Ashes of Creation official youtube channel
Cool cool that's what I'm watching thanks again
Had a question about the corruption system.. Let's say someone is marked on the map with a bounty, and the bounty hunters are moving on the target to collect the bounty. What's to stop the corrupted individual from just logging out?
Nothing, but then they wouldn't be playing the game anymore 
And their corruption wouldn't go away while they're offline
@crimson wave Go here https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/profile and click view inventory
Could it be possible for them to introduce a mechanic similar to Rust where a corrupted individual who logs out will still be targetable as a sleeping body?
That's really more of a survival game thing than an MMO thing, but they could have the usual "30 second wait to log out while in combat" thing that a lot of them have
It would be a mechanic only corrupted individuals wouild have to deal with
I think it would be a good answer..
@past pewter They do intend to have an afk within game for a bit before logging out like your character is just there for 30 seconds (example-I'm not sure on the number) if you force the connection closed
Is it possible to check if a name reservation has been taken?
I'm just saying it would be annoying as a bounty hunter to travel all the way to collect a bounty on someone and then they just log out
Oh ok thats interesting
@past pewter i think if you are corrupted you will have a logout timer
Meaning name reservation isn't available, I realized I made it sound like nobody just chose to yet 
Or a logout timer in general and its just higher if corrupted
Another quick question, the dark allegiances cosmetic pack, was that a limited time package? or will it eventually make its way into the in-game cash shop?
@past pewter ill ask in questions for you for clarification
Maybe have areas where corrupted players have to be in each section of the nodes to logout π€ even more of a deterrent to being corrupt + having to be in there for "x time" before fully logging out
@digital spade every monthly pack is limited to that month only
@digital spade It was limited time
@fading latch Thank you man
ahhh i didnt realise it was monthly
@past pewter anytime brother
I was going to buy it months ago but forgot about it lmao
Like logging out as a corrupted player should basically mean conceding your goods
Please keep discussions to channels
@digital spade The Kickstarter, summer sale, PAX, and pre-order pack items have all been timed exclusives, I think the only cosmetics we've seen for sale that weren't specifically timed were the APOC ones.
The level of detail in the cosmetics are beautiful, hats out to the artists
what excatly is ember?
Embers are the in-game premium currency for the cosmetic shop - They can't be spent on individually purchasing pre-order cosmetics, when APOC was up they were spendable through that (although you might consider waiting for full game to spend them if APOC returns for more options)
are there still early-access events available if one buys one of the packs on the intrepid site?
or are all of those over?
Have we seen any artwork of the orc races yet?
are the cosmetics in store right now exclusive to the packages or will they also be in the ingame store later on?
@amber sky Alpha 2 / Beta 1 / Beta 2 are available for sale on the Intrepid site, A1 is starting late in the year, A1 keys aren't currently sold but might return depending on how testing goes - Headstart server access (1/2 day before full launch) was only available during the kickstarter, there will only be 3 headstart servers, 1 per region (most servers won't be headstart)
@stable plover ty β€οΈ
@broken axle We've seen bits of the Ren'kai in concept art, and a few of the cosmetics sold previously feature some orc characters
Trying to pull some up but wiki's overrun right now
@broken axle pop "ashes of creation ren'kai" or "ashes of creation vek" into a google image search - hard to link them with the wiki down ;p
Found it
@echo bramble The cosmetics in the store right now are timed exclusives, they usually rotate monthly, If you have an existing pack you can individually buy cosmetics from your tier and down in future months only during that month
(Answer mainly applies to the Intrepid store and not whatever is going on with my.com related timed exclusivity in EU)
okay thank you π
Nice! they look sick
is the wiki broken somehow? cant connect to it
It's overloaded from the influx of new people
So I was thinking about buying the voyager plus pre order pack the game comes with it right ? Also is any playable content out now such as alpha sorry I have not a clue just found out about the game 20 min ago haha
Welcome to the Discord, questions are no problem
Alpha 1 is coming up this Fall, which currently isn't being sold but there's a possibility it may be again
A1 has not yet started (Q&A testing has been going on tho)
Voyager+ has A2 access, not A1 (in case you did not notice that)
(And as Volpur said, if they start selling access to A1 again, you can upgrade later on, if they do so)
How customizable will the UI be? I heard that there won't be addons for the game, but how about in-game possibilities?
@chilly thicket Voyager+ comes with 'game time' (and other stuff), but the game itself doesn't have a 'box' or 'dlc' cost - At full launch you can just pay 15$ a month and nothing else
@muted cipher They intend to make the UI very customizeable, with things like moving hp bars / changing the shapes/color of them / etc. UI development is still fairly on though.
Not sure if there are classes but anything kinda like a healer
@chilly thicket Cleric main archetype = healer (or dps, clerics can spec into dps, but be a cleric if you want to heal mainly)
@simple ether @stable plover appreciate both of u, cheers.
Okay thanks is there a date for alpha this fall ?
"Fall" is all we have
So some time over that 3 month span
They'll probably give us a date as it gets closer
Cleric's the only healer archetype rite?
How do you sign up for alpha?
OR are bards kinda considered healers too?
Bards are support, not healer
will the game be a one time thing to buy or will you have to pay monthly?
alright imma head out
but ofc, there r the cleric secondaries as well
is there going to be a oceania server or it going to be NA ?
Hello guys I have a question: AoC will be available on Steam ? If I buy one of your Beta or Alpha packs in the shop I will get acces to Steam version of the game?
@broken lodge Bards have been mentioned as being able to reduce damage going into a tank or increase a healers healing (or help dps do more numbers), but they still need a healer to boost the healing of.
gotcha, thanks grey
@simple ether ty π
surprising decision to only have 1 healer archetype, but im sure it'll be ok
id rather pay 40 euros and not have to pay again than how ever much its going to be monthly
There will be few pure clerics
Cleric as a secondary archetype tends to grant some self healing from what we've heard
Pay to plays are shit, sub-based games tend to be wayyy better
But many who has clerics as a subtree
250 dollah for alpha key? π’
im def glad they went sub-based, i'll just pay the damn 50 cents a day lol
Just sell a kidney!
Kidney prices have wen't down since Covid, lungs are more wanted now
Benji, that gets you into Alpha 2, Alpha 1 doesnt start til this Fall, no one knows when Alpha 2 will begin
Will we have full control over stats/attributes distribution?
gud question aput
When do the beta phase start guys?
Only with gear
Wazaby lol
Stat growth depends on 1. Race, 2. Main Archetype
@verbal sandal
read my post, 3 above that one
sorry im literally new, just joined like a min ago 
will the be atleast something like a yearly subscription?
nooo worries, i just joined in the last week
However, Master Crafters will be able to adjust attribute stat of gear to an extent
great thanks
2021 @ the earliest for what? A2?
@simple ether ty bro, ima buy this game... IM SO HYPED DUDE IM SO HYPEDDDDDD
2021 i reckon@broken lodge
will i be able to pay via paysafe?
What's the new server architecture Steven mentioned last night in the Asmongold interview that aims to enable larger scale battled?
i think release date will be 2022 or 2023 right?
I'm very interested as a comp sci person
We will never know the details as that is of value
@simple ether it's already a known piece of technology no?
they didn't say it was built in house
it is
custom made back-end as Unreal ENgine is not made for MMOs out of the box
AoC is using Unreal Engine? o.o
UE4 yes
Did i miss The Dark Allegiances cosmetic items , or if i buy a pack now i can swap with any comestic i like instead of the current one ?
so i think they gonna make to 4-8K games
Owww it looked so cool
@crystal beacon Paysafe is theoretically accepted
there will maybe be similar items to be found in-game or in the cash shop in the future tho
nice
but not those exact items
would just be perfect