Lets hope
#questions
crystal beacon
slate harbor
You can replace existing meshes out of the Box in unreal engine 4 they "just" have to have change the Animations for the mesh and also the blendspace
crystal beacon
whats the package price to play in the next alpha/beta or whatever is earliest
unborn sonnet
Or in Dezember this year if we‘re lucky afuck 🤷🏻♂️...
december*
Hm okay, thought this could fit - at least in my imagination 😅
slow meadow
@unborn sonnet Alpha 1 is likely going to last several months as there are still many early iterations that will need to happen to the base archetypes and systems. It's timeframe is not specific because they will need to get to a certain point they are happy with before moving to Alpha 2.
real parrot
Will there be siege beasts as in beasts used for breaking walls climbing walls throwing projectiles ect?
slow meadow
we know there will be siege weapons (ballista, trebuchet etc) and siege summons available to the summoner class, so while not expressly talked about, its possible but definitely not confirmed at this time.
dark jungle
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Siege_summons @real parrot
real parrot
Ohho
This is nice tyvm
So like with the whole thing with you have amain class and then the secondary class augments it does that mean for like a summoner's augments would apply to what he summons so like a summoner tank would summon tank like units that focus on agro and cc while a summoner mage/sorcery would summon magic casting ranged units?
dark jungle
The idea seems to be that each archetype has its own siege summons, when 8 of the same archetype channel it. It has not been mentioned that secondary classes affect the summons, only the primary archetype. Something to check with Steven about in the next Q&A
slow meadow
we don't know specifics about how a secondary will affect the summons themselves at this point. We know that abilities/spells that are part of your archetype can be augmented, so its probably a safe bet that your summon spells could be augmented, but its unclear what that will mean at this point in time.
crude beacon
How often are people able to play the alpha 0 atm? As in, are there specific periods it opens up? Ir are you able to log in whenever you care to?
dark jungle
alpha 0 was in 2017/8
alpha 1 pre-testing is what we are in now
sadly if you dont have an A1 backer package you cant participate right now
sometime later this year you will be able to watch livestreams though when the NDA is lifted
crude beacon
Yea that's what i mean
Whichever alpha we're in, are the people who can access it able to do it whenever they want, or no?
placid vessel
No
Access is sporadic atm
The plan is to very slowly increase capacity and add longer testing periods, and then eventually open a 'persistent' alpha, which would likely be A2.
lean marlin
@sly monolith yes it is. But this is for questions use #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion for non questions.
grizzled latch
@tawdry swallow to further answer your questions if the mobs in the current alpha will change, the footage you saw is of a testing island. Its fairly likely that most of that specific content will not be in the actual game. That dungeon layout will probably be used but in a diffrent area with different monsters and boss.
neat panther
So A1 was announced for may? But was it delayed then? And no I'm not a PI. But I'm an A1 backer anyway.
Yes, but I'm not a PI, I just said 😂
Oh, I heard A1 was in may. Not just the PIs.
rotund oar
We PI people are pretty much just doing QA testing at the moment. Alpha 1 is still in Fall.
neat panther
So delayed 'til fall, got it.
neat panther
Ok, so what you're saying is that I read that wrong.
rotund oar
📜
neat panther
I mean everything is testing in an alpha anyway, so QA or not, will still be QA in the fall, lol. But yes, so there is a possibility to get invited prior to the A1 date, then.
stray olive
Question: The dungeons and bosses that we have seen in the gameplays, they are content that exists in the game always or that has to be unblocked by levelling a certain node or nodes? I got the impression that it was the latter. So you may have all this content but to access it you have to discover it by levelling the "correct" nodes. Is this correct?
ruby swift
That is correct
Some servers may never unlock certain content.
By not unlocking the correct combinations
This is intended by design. The "I am level 10, so now I run Rock Candy Prison 10 times for level appropriate gear!" is not a thing.
fair yew
Check out the nodes and nodes 2 videos. They confirm what unknown has said
stray olive
Ok. Thanks 🙂
undone ravine
@stray olive Hey if you haven't already here's the link if you couldn't find it: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/node-series-part-one
grand forge
Mmmmmmm, rock candy prison 🍬
dry flower
plucky pawn
Hiya @dry flower ! We're still planning to get you that Creative Director's Letter later this month 😄 ( @simple ether apologies but I'm not quite sure where you got that info!)
@simple ether LOL all good, we went digging for references too and figured you might've been looking at last year's, ty for confirming 😉
upper pine
i have a question about the node system i dont know if it was asked before, but it only occured to me now
what incentive does a max lvl node have to stay a max lvl node and not delevel in order to trigger another max lvl node event and quests?
do we know what kind of bonuses?
ah
i see
thanks 🙂
crystal fjord
Will there ever be cataclysmic events to "reset" a server's nodes? Like a second great calamity? My concern is if you aren't part of the initial group to get on a server, you will not be able to see a truly untamed Verra, and you will miss the unique opportunity of seeing the server as nothing but potential. It's a minor concern, because you can always try to move developed nodes around through war, but I feel carving out those first few spots of civilization will be the most rewarding. Will we only get that experience once, and will new players a year after launch never get the experience at all?
boreal abyss
Not ever been told about anything like that, so most likely.. No
However, Nodes can be sieged by enemy players.
If the siege is successful, the Node will be destroyed and will have to be built from scratch again.
@crystal fjord
New players will never get the same experience of "No nodes at all"
Unless new servers are opened, but that would require influx of new players
pulsar obsidian
there will be no server resets
crystal fjord
Thank you. I'm going to move over to #aoc-discussion since my question was answered.
stray olive
Hi guys. So I was reading the discussion over in the #aoc-discussion regarding the to wipe or not to wipe the server and another question came to my mind. So like you guys confirmed before the dungeons and bosses are unlocked by developing the nodes. Now my question, does the content that was unblock disappear if the node that unlocked it gets successfully sieged and sent to level 0 again?
That is cool! Thx 🙂
crystal beacon
Will AoC have a mentor program such as how FFXIV has one, this could in theory help less experienced people get help for passing certain content or other such things even in Artisan skills later on, but also could increase the need for some level of social interaction?
crude beacon
Ooh related to ffxiv...would housing be more likd eso, ffxiv, or bdo, for those people who checked out the housing there?
reef dagger
@crude beacon the short answer to your question is that all of the above will be present, there will be set amounts of homes that are available in node starting at stage 3, if the governing force behind a node chooses to implement the building for it then instanced apartments will be available on a node, and out of node free holds will be available for players to set up a home in the wilderness I suggest consulting Ashes 101 Housing review by paradox gaming network for more detailed information
@crystal beacon it has been mentioned and can be referenced in the ashes of creation wiki that there will be a mentor program for higher level characters to assist lower level players
fleet zinc
I am planning to upgrade my kickstarter pack to Royalty to have access to PI..the question is, does it makes sense to buy it for an EU player? in NA once the game is live you'll be able to access a zone where you can talk to GMs and such which might be interesting, but for an EU player i guess the PI zone will be restricted to the EU, why would i want to talk to the most likely non existant my.com GMs (or even other EU PI members, which will be most likely very few in numbers)?
rotund oar
@fleet zinc I hope this helps to answer your question. 📜
They are hoping/trying to and make it a cross server instance.
If they can actually make it work, is something they don't seem to know yet.
pulsar obsidian
*Cross server not necessarely meaning cross region
rotund oar
I'm sorry, my answers are limited. 
chrome geyser
it would be cool if they made it cross region
I doubt latency would matter that much in a place like that
fair yew
Unfortunately this question hasn’t been answered as of yet. It would be a great idea to post it on the next live stream q&a post. @fleet zinc just be specific and ask if it will be cross region as well as cross server
undone ravine
is Monster Coin Events still part of Ashes of Creation?
dark jungle
yes, its still part of their intended design
undone ravine
okay cool, thank you
rough timber
Any Word if there will be a Crowd Control Class?
south silo
So I have some friends that are following CrowFall, and I'm interested in AoC. If there are a couple of things I could tell them that might get them interested what would they be? Obviously this game will be more enjoyable in groups.
Everyone has their preferences, but... I want them to play MY game, lol.
empty fjord
Supposedly a very intricate crafting system as well
lean marlin
ability to run a stall? I think that's still a thing.
empty fjord
yup, a very important part of the player driven economy
crystal beacon
How is the item drop rate in the game(except the mount)? is there some kind of valuable gear or weapon that only have 1.3% chance to get? I know it might not fair for some people even for me but I thing the game will be a bit more interesting. or it just me....
fair yew
More like there can be a rare chance for a material to craft a weapon will drop. Weapons and armor are going to be player made for the most part
full badger
@crystal beacon From what I understand, the best gear will be crafted using special materials dropped from raid and world bosses. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gear
ruby swift
There is a mix planned. The two tests that have had the NDA released on them so far were not intended to drop gear, instead dropped essences that could then be sold for gold to npc vendors or used to spawn caravans to test. Loot testing will make an appearance in later testing probably.
crystal beacon
So is that mean each time if I want to have new gear. I need craft by my self or find someone to help me to craft ?
full badger
That's kinda the angle Intrepid are going for, but like Unknown has said, so far gear hasn't really been implemented into the testing
ruby swift
And no on the having to craft yourself. There is going to be a very small amount of soulbound gear. Everything can be sold or traded to other players and alts. And while they have said that endgame gear will indeed be crafted, the quote actually says there will be a mix. Gear will drop.
undone mountain
Hey I got a good one for you guys. There was a post referring to Alpha where someone made a list of their experiences. One including stating finding a two handed sword with magic stats. Would that apply the same to armor. Could I wear heavy armor that will have stats focused on magic and dps or are those locked to tanks and warriors?
That answer was better than I expected. Thanks man
subtle violet
I have a question, how do the referrals work for ashes?
cloud raft
So what most of us did in the beginning was draw out friends into the kickstarter and referred a few dozen braver of worlds
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Free PI 😄
midnight totem
i have a question is there a chance that the Ochre Legion Wyrmling will be coming to the shop?
thats a shame
formal lark
would buying the monthly sub count as a purchase for the referral system?
oh very nice
where do i go to get my code?
oh found it
silk pendant
is game playable if i bought pre-order pack?
k just checking
glad to support the game either way
still wyvern
!playtest
lofty verge
hello, could u add some information about wich packers are alrdy allowed to enter the world of verra?
that would be so grate 😉 cant wait for it to join ❤️
woeful zephyr
@lofty verge No backers are currently in game
lofty verge
all avatar of phoenix are Modbot:"This testing will include our Phoenix Initiative backers and above at first"
lean marlin
Phoenix Initiative were the only ones so far that have gotten in. Worry more about it in the fall.
grim breach
@lofty verge It's a good idea but that's not the kind of info that you'd want to show at the homepage of the game. That info is easily accessible in the Discord. Perhaps in a page dedicated for alpha/beta testing info, where it is linked on the homepage, that would be better. I doubt it would mean anything though.
tulip moth
@plucky pawn Apologies if you are the wrong person to tag but here goes 🙂 I don't like the default skin/layout the forum uses on desktop but I love the skin/layout the mobile version of the forums. Is there any way change the skin/layout of the official forums pls? I don't mean it for everyone just as setting for my users. Thanks 🙂
crystal beacon
No. Not at the moment. With vanilla forums I don't even think you can do multiple layouts.. regardless. Intrepid would have to make that option available, if it was.
I reckon you could tampermonkey the layout for yourself, but until they change the HTML code.. no :/
tulip moth
@crystal beacon bit if shame. I really like thier colour and layout of the mobile version of the forums. It's really nice and easy on the eye. I know how to get the mobile version on desktop but it's bit of a pain.
You can get mobile version by using chrome developer tools on the desktp
I hope they really redesign the official desktop version of the forums before going live.
Right now the colour scheme leave lot to be desigerd.
Err desired
crystal beacon
Yeah Mobile looks really good, nice and compact. A little hamburger button (| | |) to boot. I know they have plans for the website. Until then, maybe someone can provide you an alternative to your question :) (referral to the question: #questions message
fleet zinc
Trying to upgrade my KS BoW to Royalty but apparently Xsolla doesn't like it and refuses my payment, i contacted their customer support many times and all they can tell me is to use a credit card, do you know if this is a common problem and if there is a workaround?
I can't use a credit card since the money are already on Skrill
Yes
Oooook!
Thanks for your help
crystal beacon
@fleet zinc Yeah I believe they might be able to set up multiple payments for you. So it's not one big transaction
fleet zinc
Hopefully they will be able to, i already opened a ticket 🙂
fair flare
astral hinge
Is there anyone from Intrepid Studios that can answer me this: How often do you update your job listings?
plucky pawn
@tulip moth The existing color scheme is based on our official colors and previous user requests for a dark mode 😄 while we're only able to provide you one theme option through Vanilla, I believe there's a community member on our forums who set up a quick extension with some other color options you may like!
@fleet zinc You took the right steps here by reaching out to our team with a support ticket, so we can take a closer look and help you out further!
@astral hinge Since we share our active job listings on social media on a weekly/bi-weekly basis, we check in with the team to make sure they're still up-to-date before we post! 
crystal beacon
Where will AOC launch ? on steam? and is there IP block?
median forge
everywhere, no, no
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon we've got some helpful answers for you up in our #faq section: https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/303329905758699523/720404972394512544
crystal beacon
thank you
astral hinge
Thank you @plucky pawn! I can still apply even though the position isn't listed?
median forge
you can always try
crystal beacon
Never know. Maybe they just haven't updated their listing :)
tawdry crow
Are the Intrepid Studios employees still working from home?
plucky pawn
we are indeed @tawdry crow
ruby swift
@fleet zinc As @simple ether said, I was sleeping. I used a credit card for my upgrade and the problem with Xsolla was a limit they had put on transactions over 1k usd that required some timed verification steps that were not working. After contacting Intrepid CS they worked with them and were able to resolve the matter promptly. Good luck and congratulations on your upgrade.
brittle ferry
Is there a given time for how long upgrades on the forums (Leader of Men/Braver of Worlds as example) take after you've completed a purchase of said upgrade?
I wanted to ask here before submitting a ticket.
plucky pawn
@brittle ferry If it's been more than a few hours once you've re-logged into the forums after upgrade and you still don't see your latest badges and roles, please go ahead and open a support ticket so we can help you out further!
!support
potent thunderBOT
brittle ferry
Thank you Lt. Toast!
astral hinge
So I have another question but more so opinionated than anything. So I’m going to be doing a 100 Days In World of Warcraft soon. Will there be enough content in AoC to do that as well? Keep in mind, I would only be playing for 2-3 hours/4-5 days a week
ruby swift
Yes
Pve content unlocks as nodes level. There is also an overarching main narrative that will be updated quarterly planned.
Social organization questing. Exploration unlocks......on....and on.
Intrepid has described the game as a themebox. Since sandpark just didn't sound right. There will be sandbox elements and themepark elements.
astral hinge
Well, I’m hoping someone from Intrepid says something too!
astral hinge
Ah ok! Thank you @simple ether
exotic trout
Where/when will name reservation be available for those who have access to it?
crystal beacon
Sometime during Alpha 1 (when everyone has access) but could of changed
exotic trout
Hoping, for everyones sake, those with name reservation all have the same priority for reserving names, rather than highest donations get first pick system
crystal beacon
Afaik it's going to be tiered. But could change in the future. :)
inland crater
right so ks backers get it first
not sure how summer backers with higher packs go vs low ks packs
crystal beacon
Sorry if this is a really basic question- i just kinda forgot. Is this game subscription based?
ruby swift
No box cost or expansion cost.
Pay your $15 and play. Don't like it or get bored. Stop subbing.
They feel confident enough that you won't be bored.
crystal beacon
atleast for the month ^-^
crystal beacon
Which test does the NDA get lifted?
junior ore
It’s pretty much lifted for all future tests that aren’t pi only. They would state otherwise but outside of the small pi group it would be hard to back track to full or even partial nda again to the masses
undone ravine
Alpha 1 @crystal beacon
junior ore
@simple ether yup why i said they would state otherwise but it would be hard to back track to the masses
jade meteor
so i noticed the shop on the website hasnt had an update on the cosmetics. if i buy now will i still get them since it no longer is in the month they were featured?
slow meadow
yes, they extended the availability of those cosmetics as a consideration for those dealing with money issue during the pandemic.
jade meteor
and of course its through xsolla...
well due to past issues ill be holding off then 😫
crystal beacon
Honestly haven't had a single issue with xsolla
median forge
maybe cause youre murican
jade meteor
i have had double charges and such. to fix any issues it took months.
@median forge what does American have to do with it
undone ravine
I personally haven't had issues, it could be bank related that Xolla doesnt like. But if you have any issues, you can always contact support
empty fjord
everything became more expensive with xsolla than before. can that be counted as an issue?
empty fjord
this wasn't the case when they used stripe tho. Bah, EU is shit
crystal beacon
Have we been told what happens to a guild if two nodes declare eachother enemies of the state and there are guild members in both nodes yet?
ruby swift
An affiliation tree is under development that determines which entities can participate in attacks against other entities within its hierarchy.
quasi latch
did they spoke or showed anything about summoner?
crystal beacon
@quasi latch all the info is in the wiki [https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner] if nothing new is there then there is no new info
quasi latch
thanks
crystal beacon
I want to say I recall Steven or someone in the dev streams saying they wanted to make sure the Holy Trinity core classes were fleshed out before moving on to stuff like Summoner.
woeful zephyr
Yup
crystal beacon
yes
quasi latch
wait is the summoner going to be outside of the trinity ?
crystal beacon
The holy trinity in mmorpg's is Tank, DPS, Healer. Summoner being a utility class, as far as we know, may be able to support all 3 of those roles, or even fill it. We have yet to see this though.
By virtue of being able to create bodies that can inflict damage, theoretically the summoner would be able to fill the role of a pseudo tank and dps
Guild Wars 1 necromancer was like that
But we'll have to see how they are mechanically. Honestly, if summoner minions aren't beefy enough to take a little or strong enough to dish out some damage, I dunno what use they'll be
dark jungle
Yes, Steven said that summoners can shift their roles to fill gaps in group composition
civic radish
Will the game be ready by fall of 2021 and will it have raids, dungeons and other party required game modes
meager dragon
random question that probably has no answer - Lotro has a sound filtering system, where you can turn off specific sounds. This is great for hearing impaired like me. Any chance ashes will have something similar? I've not seen a game that has something like it, would love it if more would
full badger
I imagine there will be different sliders for various sounds in Ashes, but we don't know how extensive it will be
meager dragon
Yeah, most games have sliders that govern groups of sounds like sound effects, voices, etc. But Lotro's system allows you to target specific sound files and turn them off. It's amazing. Usually I have to turn off all sounds in games.
crystal beacon
No one has really asked that question before. So the only answer you'll get right now is assumption of what will be. I like to think we'll get the standardized effects,music,bgm settings.
individualized. I say this is more of a Toast question. @plucky pawn ❤️
https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/community-content-tools-and-tutorials/1587490-audio-settings-menu
Seems pretty standard for UE4
meager dragon
It's like, let's say there is an environmental sound effect slider. But only Stormywind03.wav is an issue for me. Lotro lets me turn off that specific file, rather than what all other games that I've played do, which makes me have to turn off all environmental sound. Maybe I will make a post on the forums to suggest something like this.
crystal beacon
I get ya, could have some buggy audio too. 🙂
question that still needs a more official answer on:
https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/257283936756039680/721870269307813889
(links to above)
untold schooner
are player stalls only available to economic nodes or all types?
so the items you list for sale on player stalls cannot be found in auction houses? their unique?
crystal beacon
This is a nice little read ❤️ https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_stalls#:~:text=Player stalls (also%20called%20Kiosks,when%20they%20are%20not%20online.
untold schooner
@crystal beacon ❤️ love you too -)
slow meadow
Jahlon, are you sure that is correct, about player stalls. You can get a certificate to place them on a freehold but all mentions on the wiki seem to indicate only the economic node will have areas for them to be placed other than that. If you have an updated quote, may need to update the wiki.
dark jungle
there are stalls and shops, two different things
crystal beacon
To place the stalls on a freehold?
crystal beacon
yes
untold schooner
but both shops and stalls have nothing to do with Auction house?
crystal beacon
yeah the stalls spawn in near the marketplace iirc
slow meadow
you're right lex. I meant to call them out separate. No other node seems to have shops or stalls. So you can do shop on freehold or economic can have stalls
dark jungle
still is like a kiosk, mini shop that peeps can rent (if they dont have a freehold)
ye
^
slow meadow
So to demonhunters question then, both shops and stalls are tied to economic node then. Your initial answer made it seem like they were anywhere
then the wiki needs updated because it says "Player stalls (also called Kiosks and rental stalls) are rentable locations near the unique building in an Economic node.[3]"
If they are rentable elsewhere
untold schooner
so say im on the other side of the world, can i see someone's shop and the items their listing so i can travel there and buy it?
dark jungle
depends on the level of the economic node
untold schooner
the only way i can see other people's shops is through economic nods?
crystal beacon
"Bulletin boards that list the items available in player stalls can be accessed from anywhere in the region."
dark jungle
no you can see them through bulletin boards in the same region
crystal beacon
if thats what you mean
untold schooner
k
dark jungle
this is steven talking about player stalls in economic nodes https://youtu.be/0KbuD3pj2Ik?t=5254
indeed
he did correct himself when he said shop
so assumption is the bulletin board only applies to stalls
until he elaborates
i think it might be the other way around perhaps?
listen to what he says near the end
untold schooner
so if we buy something, i guess were going to travel and pick it up ourselves
no mailing system
dark jungle
it would make sense if stalls could only be placed in an economic node, until that node reaches metro, then at metro it will allow stalls and shops to be placed anywhere within its ZOI (not the world)
dark jungle
like i said it would make sense if it was restricted to the economic metro's ZOI
reason it makes sense is it gives people a reason to fight for their economic metro
dark jungle
the other perks from metros also give their vassal nodes reasons to defend that metro
yeah same @untold schooner
crystal beacon
I mean, metros and node level ups are already really important to the players and happen naturally if anyone is playing the game right?
dark jungle
i mean once you have a scientific metro you can be sure you will fight to defend it to retain its fast travel benefits to its zoi
indeed
so should all node superpowers
untold schooner
ya but imagine you have 5 military metro's, i would think you would want diversity
dark jungle
they should be restricted to citizens in vassal nodes in the metro's zoi
gives meaning to their defense of it
crystal beacon
um- pretty sure you can't have 5 military metros
untold schooner
we dont know yet military and divine superpowers
crystal beacon
i could be wrong there though -_-
dark jungle
i mean you could theoretically have 5 of the same type of metro but it would be a stupid idea imo
untold schooner
could be possible, depends on players
crystal beacon
i mean you could theoretically have 5 of the same type of metro but it would be a stupid idea imo
that server would pretty much become a lost cause
untold schooner
that's why there is pvp
crystal beacon
none of the systems would work well :p
untold schooner
and siege
crystal beacon
yeah nodes can get knocked down
crystal beacon
god damn
dark jungle
hulk smash them away
untold schooner
thats why you might wanna an alliance, to bring some of them down and re-build it to another
crystal beacon
I do highly doubt any server will be one sided on metros and nodes though
dark jungle
personally i think it will be reasonably rare for a server to have all 5 metros up at the same time
untold schooner
I don't know how PVE'ers can resist not to PVP in this game
dark jungle
they will learn to pvp
crystal beacon
corruption probably
untold schooner
exactly
dark jungle
cause its smarter than losing your mats
if you carebear your way around the world you are basically making yourself a loot piñata
crystal beacon
Ya'll taking about
untold schooner
even a rogue is not full stealth, you can see his outline. so you better travel in groups
dark jungle
yep
mmo that encourages people to group and do things together
what is the world coming to 😂
oh wait this is #questions channel rip
solar forge
whe will aoc Apocslype be playable again
solar forge
hmmm....
woeful zephyr
Sometime in the fall
unborn sonnet
More like next year, A1 will start in full rollout in fall. So guess about Q1 -Q2 2021
slate harbor
Im rdy for a2 haha
fluid scroll
I could see where most people on a server come into agreement and decide to make one of each type of metro with 2 scientific, and the whole sever become one big alliance.
crystal beacon
Not going to happen lol
there will probably be a strong community due to the activities you have to do and how important the player base is, but people are going to make whatever node type that benefits them the most
I could be wrong though, again, I'm not very experienced in mmos :p
unborn sonnet
Did I got it right that there will be no fractions ? Only one big Population which is forced to play against each other if they want PVP?
tulip hatch
There are no factions, correct.
surreal elk
@unborn sonnet Yes there are no factions, however affiliations such as node citizenship, guild etc have some relations to PvP which determine if you can fight each other depending on the PvP.
tulip hatch
Yes from node wars, guild wars, points of interest to compete over and many more player based incentives.
cloud raft
I mean. I suppose you could choose to still hold the guild over your node
And just sabotage
minor pendant
when will name reservations start?
vast cove
can npcs conquer nodes if no player does? and may create their own factions?
fair yew
To note though if there is little or no player activity near a node it will delevel by way of naturalization over time
sly monolith
i think its a mistake to not have a corrputed faction
or either dedicate a node/city for corrupted players
ruby swift
Thank you for your input. They have said they don't want factions, and that being corrupted will remain a punishment, not a reward. "All stick, no carrot."
boreal abyss
players can make their own "corrupted city" if they want, all you need to do is gather up corrupted people in a city and kill everyone who's not corrupted
crystal beacon
lol
regal lodge
empty fjord
The reward is the satisfaction of being a douchebag hated by others. Some people get off on that
crystal beacon
are you talking about corruption? @empty fjord
empty fjord
Yep
crystal beacon
I mean, yeah, there's deff problems in the system
grizzled citrus
So does anyone know or have seen anything about how exactly they want to do tab vs action. In the sense that if you take a game like gw2 you have combat that is stil action with the option to tab but you can still activate the ability. So from what ive heard in alpha testing pi have stated that the action is more of a cmaera swiitch but how will the actual ability's work. Like if im a mage in action i can launch a fire ball whenever but if im a mage in tab I have to have a target?. Idk seems very hard to balance
boreal abyss
@grizzled citrus all we know is that some skills will be tab, some will be action, they wont be both
grizzled citrus
well idk i mean pis have said that in the testing when they went in action mode they could use all abilitys even the tab ones
crystal beacon
wasnt there a specific number of each you can have? Like you can't go full tab or full action? I think it was like 75% of you skills in your thing can be one and 25% of the other type
boreal abyss
not 100% confirmed but that is waht we were last told as an example
grizzled citrus
was watching dungeon crawler network, and yea I mean it sounds like they want to make it to where you are having to switch back and forth mid combat
boreal abyss
yh that is not the case, skills will be either or
jovial geyser
@grizzled citrus I think you might be talking about a camera difference not a skill difference
skills can be either action or tab
the camera changes from a closer 3rd person (action) to a farther away one (a more traditional camera)
you can use all skills in either camera and all skills remain as either action or tab
grizzled citrus
ohh ok i understand I was thinking that the camera change was gonna be like if u use action ability you need to swithc camera mode mid combat
jovial geyser
no
Steven demonstrated this on the last few monthly streams
He showed the closer camera and the MMO traditional one
and could use any skill in either
grizzled citrus
oh gotcha makes more sense
jovial geyser
I'm hoping the action camera gives a more intuitive feel similar to GW2 where you don't have to click the area of effect for it to work on action skills but instead they launch depending on teh direction of your reticule/ mouse position
but as I am not PI I don't know
grizzled citrus
yea I would assume so, so if im using a fire ball and I cant physically click on someone im assuming the only way to really do it would have the fire ball go to the closest target you look at
grizzled citrus
well i was more talking about if im in a action mode camera where the camera is locked how do you use tab abilitys is it by looking at them with reticle ?
west current
prob just look at them and hit a target hotkey
could do it a few ways, like cast spell, then hit target hotkey
or have a general targeting hotkey, then whenever you cast a spell whoever ur target is gets hit
native obsidian
So on the latest stream, what concerned me was the use of mounts in dungeons. With dungeons being open world, what's to stop people from riding past the initial mobs, just to attack the main guy? Aside from hopefully jump puzzles, or levers or such perhaps? And yes I know, the flying mounts will be extremely rare, but other mounts still seem able to ride past enemies, unless they make all the enemies threat and follow ranges extremely high.
modern badger
Is there an estimate for early backer alpha access yet? It's probably asked a lot hard to find if they have rough projections yet.
crystal beacon
As in alpha 1? or alpha 2?
modern badger
1
modern badger
Yea it does. Where can I find that?
plucky pawn
The above has the latest dates we've shared for upcoming playtests!
crystal beacon
plucky pawn
Yupyup!
empty fjord
so how is the game client stability so far?
nimble tartan
pls more testers :3 XDD
plucky pawn
Our recent early tests with PI folks were very promising; I'm sure a few of them can share their experience on that front as well! With the feedback we got from that test from our community and behind-the-scenes, we definitely have a busy schedule of stuff to prep for you all as we work towards wider testing 😄 as always, we'll keep you all posted here and via email with the latest testing plans!
empty fjord
Awesome stuff 🙂 Thanks Toast 🙂
ruby swift
Stability was excellent in both tests we can talk about. Very few people reported issues and crashes of the client. There were other issues to deal with.
empty fjord
Sounds good!
astral hinge
So I have a question! What scripting language is used for AoC? I know it’s built in the Unreal Engine but what about the quests and such?
boreal abyss
most likely C++ since that is what Unreal Engine uses for scripts 
astral hinge
So I’ll have to learn something new lol
nimble tartan
lol
lean current
What for?
boreal abyss
#general-discussion or #aoc-discussion for conversations
this channel is reserved for questions and answers
shut wren
Are the cosmetic skins that they are coming out with going to be available upon launch or only for pre order?
dark jungle
the current ones are only available in preorder packs, and only in the month of the pack
shut wren
ohh, well thats kinda a shame some of these are awesome that ive missed. ohh ok so atleast close.
undone ravine
Get them while they last, get it while its HAWT 
half yoke
so im just starting to learn about this game and im interested in getting a preorder package but im sort of confused on when the beta periods are and how they work would anyone be able to clarify?
crystal beacon
We don't have a date for the betas, and betas will be basically near the complete product of Ashes of Creation. I'm not sure if they will do any open betas of sorts, or selected invites. The beta phases plan to only last for a few weeks before launch.
half yoke
is there any idea like this year next year?
crystal beacon
Any dates are speculated guesses from the community. If I had to say a date. It would be late 2021, early 2022.
half yoke
cool thanks man
crystal beacon
No problem 👍😊
opaque needle
The mounts and cosmetics within the game are a good majority of them achievable through then game instead of a cosmetics store/mount store or a cosmetic crate? It would be nice for them to mean something rather then you've just bought it.
crystal beacon
I'm pretty sure (although i could be wrong) that all of the mounts are achievable (other than the royalty stuff and guild war stuff iirc) and the stuff in the cosmetics store is just a skin for the mounts @opaque needle
again, i could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the answer
opaque needle
Just be nice to finally have a game where items and cosmetics actually have there value again instead of who has the biggest bank its more about spending time and enjoying a game.
potent monolith
Is AoC worth playing right now ?
median forge
no since you can't play it right now
crystal beacon
kek
potent monolith
how come ?
median forge
the game is in alpha and servers aren't up
rotund oar
Pre-Alpha. Alpha is in Fall 2020.
ruby swift
@opaque needle @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
ah
opaque needle
Lets hope it is very even and no just stuff with buyables as the game goes on
fair yew
I think they mean they hope there are plenty of cosmetics to get in the game and not just the cash shop. but that statement from steven says it clearly enough
opaque needle
Yeah I meant I hope there is enough unlockable content in the game (mounts, cosmetics, etc) that are challenging to acquire because then you get a sence of accomplishment and will keep bringing you back to the game.
It's just annoying the current environment in gaming where minority of achievements to show skill or time isn't there anymore and its just payed for.
The gear you earn in games that took you hours to achieve will always feel more valuable then the set you bought for a few dollars
dark jungle
what is sold in the store are only cosmetic skins. you must earn your gear, mounts and other items in the game first before you can apply the skins to them
nothing in the store is pay to win
opaque needle
I'm not on about pay to win or not. Doesn't matter if its pay to win. Anything buyable within a game takes the sense of achievement put of it regardless if its pay to win or not. And I didn't know that page existed that explains it alot better
lean marlin
that's fine, this is no longer a question though please move to #aoc-discussion
covert palm
Should I be getting a confirmation email on a support ticket?
plucky pawn
@covert palm I believe there's an auto-reply that gets sent when you open one up (letting you know the ticket number), but perhaps @mossy cave can confirm for sure 😄
covert palm
That's what I was afraid of... no conf yet on my ticket
plucky pawn
have you checked your spam and junk folders by chance? it would go to the email you provided on the ticket
plucky pawn
sounds like a plan! if you still don't get an email after that time, please reach back out to me and we'll see if we can find your tickets & ticket #s in there
covert palm
Odd though, it looks like it went in the system.
crystal beacon
@covert palm are you signed in to zendesk?
plucky pawn
yeah that's signed into Zendesk
crystal beacon
I put in a test and haven't got a confirmation when signed in
plucky pawn
well, as long as you see it there, then we see it as well so you're good!
covert palm
sounds good, thank you!
plucky pawn
if it appears that it's not sending email triggers if you're logged into Zendesk, that's something perhaps @mossy cave can help explain or investigate further 😄
(perhaps you have to enable them through your settings!)
vs. if you're not logged in, it automatically emails you for notification purposes
mossy cave
Interesting! Since we don't require login to open a ticket, I don't think we have much set up in the way of sign on notifications. I'll check into it, that's good to know! ❤️
covert palm
@mossy cave I submit my ticket while NOT being logged in. Got no email. Then logged in and the ticket appears in my account.
shy sluice
Any word on when the mycom(EU) issues are solved. Cant upgrade my package. Both you guys here and mycom replied to the tickets ' we are working on it'
mossy cave
@covert palm That's really strange, I'm looking into it
The good news is that your ticket is there and we'll get to it soon @covert palm 😄
plucky pawn
hiya @shy sluice - yup, we're still working to resolve that so you have the latest updates we do! we appreciate your patience in the meantime 
violet mica
Am I allowed to stream AoC on Twitch?
crystal beacon
It's not out yet
violet mica
Isn't early access going on?
potent thunderBOT
violet mica
Thats why I wasn't sure
dark jungle
it is going on but its under NDA
violet mica
What is NDA? Sorry 😓 Thank you
dark jungle
means you arent allowed to stream it
violet mica
Thank you for clarifying
low lantern
Non disclosure agreement, it will be removed sometime during Alpha 1
undone ravine
NDA is an agreement when you sign up for Alpha access. It's pretty much a legality signing off that you won't stream the game to the public until approval is given
Now once it is later this year, we should be able to see many streaming it. But we have to wait until Intrepid lifts that NDA
violet mica
Nice nice. Thanks for explaining :) I look forward to that!
undone ravine
Anytime 🙂 It's going to be exciting!
shy sluice
@plucky pawn thanks for your reply
mossy cave
Email notifications after submitting a ticket should be working again. If you open a ticket for help in the future, and for some reason don't receive an email, please feel free to ping me here ❤️
opaque needle
How often are the alpha 1 servers up?
desert ivy
We don't know since that's under NDA atm
Only Phoenix Initiative members can play atm
We don't know how frequently they'll be up when they're open to everyone with access either
opaque needle
just wondered if it was worth getting access shame don't know how often its up
crystal beacon
@opaque needle spot test, weekend tests, to full week tests. Currently we're at spot and weekend
untold schooner
will there be a free trial?
desert ivy
Nope
undone ravine
Nothing has been said currently. We will have to wait and see what Intrepid decides
placid vessel
^I like that idea
crude beacon
How many tests have there been so far, since the first?
undone ravine
none
PI testing is the only test that has been done and that is Pre-Alpha. No official tests have been completed yet. Alpha 1 is in late Summer to Fall
ruby swift
There are two tests that have been released from written/discussion NDA that PI people can comment on.
azure birch
Ye others are under NDA (if there has been any 
)
half pagoda
braver of worlds is only people who bought the 500 dollar package right?
tulip hatch
Yes, though some got the discounted early bird packs
flint barn
^And the BoW title only applies to the KS backers
half pagoda
ohh damn i bought the back back in april 2018 so i guess i didnt make the cut
ruby swift
No, there were also Intrepid Packs sold that have A1 access.
They stopped selling those in Aug 2108
Look at your inventory on main site for A1 key.
So while you are not BoW without the KS/Summer package. It is entirely possible you have A1 access if you paid $500
flint barn
@half pagoda If you're referring to the A1 access, then do as Unknown said above. If you bought it in hopes of getting the lifetime subscription, then that was only available to those who bought BoW and above during the kickstarter
half pagoda
I just noticed it looks like they changed what i bought in 2019. but here what i have in my inventory doesn't look like i have it.
flint barn
@half pagoda https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Intrepid_pre-order_pack The Intrepid Pre-Order pack includes A1. Depending on the month in which you bought the pack, the cosmetics on the wiki may not be representative of what you had included as cosmetics in yours
flint barn
Most of the cosmetics seem to be listed on there, but it is a bit odd that Alpha 1 is not showing (it does on mine). I would contact support for further information on the matter, but it should very well be included
tulip hatch
Do you have the intrepid pack brane?
flint barn
@tulip hatch I have both that and BoW
half pagoda
Alright cool. I appreciate the speedy response. Ill message support and see whats up.
tulip hatch
Ooh, interesting
And your intrepid pack displays the a1 access?
What an odd error
flint barn
@tulip hatch Actually I'll just check just incase
tulip hatch
Yeah it may be different for the different packs
I dont have an intrepid one so i cant see :c
flint barn
@half pagoda You know what? I was wrong. Mine does not show the alpha 1 access for the intrepid pack either, so as long as you get the access when A1 launches, there should be no issue
Mine was not duplicated at least
ruby swift
How did you end up with KS and Intrepid pack. Thought that was a no-no
half pagoda
Okay. the wiki does say A! access so i was hoping thats what the interpid preorder pack was.
flint barn
@ruby swift Won the halloween contest
ruby swift
Ahh, that would do it.
tulip hatch
Awesome thanks for checking
Guess it's just included as a bundle
half pagoda
Thanks so much for the help. 🙂
ruby swift
Since you have the cosmetics in your inventory that only came with the $500 package, you are good to go. Sure to be sorted further down the line.
flint barn
No worries, sorry for any confusion I may have caused
crystal beacon
So I'm reading the skill but I still don't get it how does Rank 1 to Rank 3 work...? Could anyone help me out ? Please ?
lean marlin
Rank 1 is basic.
Rank3 max rank, adds in things that the other ranks did not have. Or just makes it stronger. It's no different than upgrading a skill.
full badger
I think he means, how do you get from rank 1 to rank 3 skills
lean marlin
by putting points into
boreal abyss
you get skill points as you level up, unknown how many or at which levels (if not at all level ups)
pulsar obsidian
In the current build that PI are testing apparently they get a skill point every quarter level
crystal beacon
Thank you and also if I correct is that mean we total have 26 skill we can use on each character?
ruby swift
All current skill builds and how they work are placeholder. Do not try to guess what the next iteration is.
I mean, you can speculate, but it will be just that.
boreal abyss
Unknown how many skills we can have on skillbar, and unknown how many skills there are too choose from
All we've heard about skill bar slots is "Less than 30"
ruby swift
Yes, I am Unknown and it is unknown.
crystal beacon
lol thx guys
untold schooner
also yur skill bar will allow certain # of tab-target or action abilities. Like for eg. 40% tab-target 60% action..
something like that
fair yew
correction on that you will be able to choose up to 75% of your skills as action or tabbed not that you can only have that % on your skill bar
fervent hamlet
I want 100% action so I have something to complain about when I loose a 1v1 "stupid tab user"
Speaking of skills, will there be any hidden skills that are only unlocked by meeting certain criteria?
boreal abyss
We've been told "No" on multiple occations
boreal abyss
You can have 100% action, jsut place the tab skills away from the main skills you use in your action bar, and never use them
azure birch
there's that as well xd
boreal abyss
then you technically have 100% action by choice
azure birch
But don't complain when a tab dude lands all the shots and you don't 
fair yew
Please keep this channel for questions and answers only. Discussions should be in #aoc-discussion
late rose
Hello there. I know that propably some1 already talk about this but i cant find any information on "ashes wiki" about size of mobs groups. This will be more like 1v1 or like in BDO (swarm) or just somewhere in middle of it? 😅
fair yew
In the play test sometimes you would pull 1 at a time but some have social aggro pulling more from the surroundings
ruby swift
Self-publish in NA and other territories. My.Games for EU and CIS
deft jay
well what else left? with that resources
sly monolith
rathet they keep it under their own flag... with my.games your are now forced to download a launcher
every publisher are wanne bees steam
slate harbor
its not that easy -" rathet they keep it under their own flag"
deft jay
at least they promised keep monetization system same as original
sly monolith
some mmo's publish their shit on steam.. and keep the payments through their own website
which is a work around for not paying steam % rate
empty fjord
as for the why they chose my.com, they signed a contract with them with the promise that IS maintain full creative control.
subtle wagon
Its easier to use a prexisting publisher in those countries
Too many laws
And if i remember right they were the only ones willing to agree to some terms
empty fjord
ah yes, there was some stupidity with EU that complicated it enough for them to seek for publishers in EU.
subtle wagon
Like intrepid keeps full creative control for example
deft jay
I just don't want it to be like Allods online when on start all was perfect and after a year it become a garbage pit. That's why fingers crossed
empty fjord
I don't Steven would allow for his creation to become a garbage pit for a large portion of the player base
but that's just my opinion.
sly monolith
ye dont understand that either..
this game has huge potential.. why let it publish by sketchy companies
ruby swift
Are you not reading the responses? EU has very specific laws on new publishers and their liability when entering the market. My.Com (now My.Games) was the only EU publisher willing to agree to the terms that Intrepid wanted guaranteed for performance metrics and creative control. The other option was to not publish in EU at all and make the eurotrash play on NA servers and let them whine, bitch and moan endlessly about "mah ping! mah latency!"
Here is a breakdown on why this had to happen from TheLazyPeon. If you are not a written word type, maybe shiny graphs will help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGsXie8d8mM
deft jay
"eurotrash" (nice BLM) dude
sly monolith
what i am reading is that : my.games falls under the the laws of eu... which is basicly the easy route for this studio.. dont want to go through the hassel of all the laws by themselves
if this studio has a pov.. about not publishing their game themselves.. they would have found a publisher for NA aswell.. which is not the case
deft jay
it is just cheaper
sly monolith
now they taking a risk dealing with a sketchy publisher.. and gaining the hassel of publishing themselves
deft jay
Question! Can i play English version of the client when play on Russian server?
hidden crane
@sly monolith You're about 2 years too late. If you want a breakdown, this was made 2 years ago: https://goo.gl/Ghk3Q8
sly monolith
release before 2020.. nice
hidden crane
sly monolith
ye intends to release before 2020... that's why they use my.games. which is not the case
sly monolith
the actilce dont make any sense then is it?
hidden crane
It makes plenty of sense, publishers usually pay to publish a game in a region.
I'd recommend you read up on how game publishing actually works in the EU to better understand Intrepid's situation.
deft jay
*always
sly monolith
the thing im pointing out.. is that intrepid is too "laizy" to it themselves for eu
junior ore
No
sly monolith
and take risk of a publisher
junior ore
They’re developers not attorneys
hidden crane
No, you're too 'lazy' to read up on how game publishing works.
hidden crane
Intrepid might* need to establish an entire separate branch in the EU.
They are still an indie development studio.
sly monolith
here comes the laizy part
quartz coral
Troll
crystal beacon
laizy
quartz coral
Lol
crystal beacon
kek
sly monolith
sorry but i dont see it any other way
junior ore
Because you’re lazy
crystal beacon
then open your mind and learn
quartz coral
Shaze leave this person alone lol
hidden crane
It would cost millions in additional funding + Paying for EU staff/office. Luxuries that a kickstarter project cannot afford.
hidden crane
Not to mention additional millions in licensing fees, adjustments for EU publishing laws and plenty of other additional costs.
Acquiring a publisher ensures that all of those concerns are taken care of by the publisher, instead of the developers.
analog panther
Copperfield is right .. if they can't give a damn to publish it correctly in the EU in something that we as a player community can trust, then how should we?
I've seen many good games fall to shit because of that
junior ore
Iirc don’t they need physical property in eu to do so as well?
hidden crane
Maybe you should try out the game servers under My.com, then you have every right to complain.
analog panther
Take a look at Archeage got bought up ... same crap and payment left a hole
sly monolith
no you dont gjina
crystal beacon
thank god randos know more about IS' business decisions and reasoning behind them than IS themselves
sly monolith
its really not hard to grasp at all
analog panther
I am fifty fifty on this .. I can understand going that route its more beneficial for them
hidden crane
analog panther
Well there you go great stuff
hidden crane
There's a full writeup by the CEO himself, addressing your very concerns 2 years ago.
analog panther
Now thats atleast something to make sure to keep the trust
Thanks for the share mate
hidden crane
Cheers
And here is the statement by Volker from My.com which was posted directly in #news
https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/270797463907074048/483665918459641876
(Clicking on the link should take you to the message)
If you'd like to discuss this further, I'll gladly do so in #aoc-discussion
analog panther
Much appreciated Shaze.
Other question ... do we have any dates yet for alpha test phases or beta?
hidden crane
There are currently no dates and all previous dates were wiped/cleared.
analog panther
Oh okay .. got it
deft jay
Question! Can i play English version of the client when play on Russian server?
@deft jay any one knows? 😄
hidden crane
Intrepid ran into some network architectural issues that were stated to be the core cause of the delay. The details of which can be found here:
@deft jay You need to ask Funkmaster most likely in #вопросы
sly monolith
people make it way complicated that it is really.. its very simple... you either launch a game in eu yourself or your let a company do that for you...and take some load of your own workers.. while taking the risk the pathner might fck up.. and gaining the hassel of laws and other shit to your parthner.. so its laiziness in soft term... if IS would have a point of view to take a pathner on global they would have done that for NA aswell.. which is not the case... now we are stuck with a sketchy launcher; a third party
deft jay
ok will do
analog panther
Lazyness sometimes ain't bad Copper
sly monolith
and its really not that hard to publish a game on steam for example.. and leave the subscription part aka payments under your own control
empty fjord
steam takes a too big chunk of the earnings
sly monolith
there many examples.. that let you download through steam... but you need to sub on games website
but we will see how it goes i guess
junior ore
Wait publish the game on steam ... so using a publisher is a no no but using steam as essentially the publisher is a go go?
Bruh just leave questions please
Go discuss this elsewhere
deft jay
Steven is fun dude
sly monolith
no let you download your game on steam... read
junior ore
Also mmorpg on steam is the worst. Just FYI not only are you reliant on your servers but steams weekly maint as well
Just stop
Your actually starting to say brain dead stuff get out of questions
deft jay
Well FF14 distribution thru steam and have a launcher in it. Ant they pay for it anyway
analog panther
I think you're mixing things up Copper ... holding a server in EU is different than getting paid through steam in EU
They would have to purchase a foothold in EU to make that infrastructure
But the game could still be sold through Steam
hidden crane
Putting the game on steam does not 'magically' cause EU laws, restrictions, servers etc. to be easily taken care of
analog panther
Right
sly monolith
people think way to complicated... its really easy as fck
junior ore
And yes other true mmorpgs have done it but it’s a cheap easy cash grab option because you play on the same servers as the standalone client and have more downtime while your friends are still perfectly fine on the same server. Bdo and ff14 of recent have had this issue plenty
deft jay
It not a greenlight stuff if you think that
hidden crane
Also understand that an MMORPG falls under games as a service. It's not a singleplayer game with a straightforward publishing process.
Nor is it a P2P game like warframe which does not require dedicated server infrastructure.
hidden crane
Probably best to take this discussion to #aoc-discussion though. This is supposed to be reserved for questions.
sly monolith
im not into game development... altho i own 4 companies
junior ore
They’re probably local small business that have nothing to do with internet laws in any way shape or form
dim shuttle
That’s being generous lol probably just LLCs
sly monolith
ye i keep things seperate tho... not gonna discuss my business here
junior ore
But you did
sly monolith
i did not... your asking me questions about my business
deft jay
Law №1 do not let China have it
law №2 look at law №1
analog panther
I was asking him ... the approach and idea is the same if its international, now imagine this, would you either set up your own flag that would have to be abided by the people and law in that region, or buy a flag that has already gone through all that and been accepted by its state of governance. Its easy to say you would just buy the flagg right.
The cost-none benefice return is higher if you would publish it yourself.
I've seen it happen with many NA mmo studios setting up servers in EU, some of em can't be bothered so they go through a publisher ... can't really say if its the best approach or not. Lets wait and see where this goes.
fair yew
Please take discussions to the #aoc-discussion room. I understand some questions bring contention but this is not the place to argue about things
hoary pumice
Hi! When do the backer of the Founder 150$ pack will be granted access to the alpha?
tulip hatch
Founders have access to Alpha 2
We are only entering Alpha 1 in the Fall
We currently have no ETA for Alpha 2
Should be sometime next year depending on the progress and results of Alpha 1
hoary pumice
Thanks a lot for the quick answer 🙂
I've lost track of this project since the time passed, but gladly come back to check how the things are going!
tulip hatch
Nothing wrong with that! Somestimes its better to only check in occasionally!
round tangle
I know that flying mounts are restricted to those with royalty status and stuff, but what about gliding mounts?
small pecan
gliding mounts are not restricted to royalty/mayors
crystal beacon
those are tier two mounts
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gliding_mounts heres their wiki
round tangle
Thank you
quasi pine
Will we be able to play Ashes of Creation on the PC?
lean marlin
yes?
placid vessel
Is that a serious question? Bruh.
ruby swift
*Please note that the requirements are subject to change throughout our testing phases.
Minimum System Requirements (on lowest settings):
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Processor: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz / AMD Phenom II X4 3.3GHz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 or AMD Radeon 6870 HD with 1GB and DirectX 12
Memory: 6 GB RAM
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB of available space
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Sound Card
Recommended System Specifications:
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Processor: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz / AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 or AMD Radeon R9 Fury with 4GB and DirectX 12
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB of available space
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Sound Card
quasi pine
Is that a serious question? Bruh.
@placid vessel lol, no, I was just bored
mild bear
Bad Frog!
clever basin
i want to play this gaem so bad#HYPE
so has alpha 1 or 2 started i think im gonna preorder one of the versions
crystal beacon
you can't get a1 and a2 specific date is unknown
tulip hatch
Alpha 1 is in QA testing, Fall is the ETA for A1 release
clever basin
ok because i was looking at pre orders and seeing what u get for ezch one
tulip hatch
You can no longer purchase into Alpha 1
So its best to just watch how Alpha 1 is before making the decision to purchase an A2 package
Unless you want the current cosmetics as they cycle out monthly normally... the current cosmetics have remained in store due to Covid
crystal beacon
why when I click both Argent and Paladin in the web https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
they are same ability I don't understand?
is that because I have to check both Tank and Clericr ability and that is the Paladin ability I can use?
desert ivy
They're both primarily tanks so they'll share a lot of the same skills
full badger
Both the "Argent" and the "Paladin" are "Tank" classes, so they will use the same base abilities. The difference between them will be the augments they have access to. We don't know what those augments will be just yet so they are the same right now as it were
desert ivy
Yeah. There isn't 64 separate classes with entirely unique abilities and separate abilities, that'd be dumb as fuck and impossible to balance.
crystal beacon
I see thx guys
errant ermine
Hello guys, I haven't been updated on AoC for a while. How can I install the game for the next alpha?
I haven't been updated like since last year and I saw a video of people playing the alpha test. Sorry for the weird question
tulip hatch
There is no install atm
Last year was a public test which has since been shut down in preparation for Alpha 1
Alpha 1 is only for those with A1 key access
Access for those individuals will start sometime in the summer then open for all keyholders in the Fall
errant ermine
I forgot what tier I bought but it was the one around $350 or something
slow meadow
The previous testing was not Alpha. It was a stand alone BR testbed that Intrepid used to gather data on their backend code and action combat. As alluring stated actual Alpha 1 begins this fall
tulip hatch
350 of the current store packages?
Most likely A2 access if its the store packages and not KS/Summer packages
Yes Alpha 2 access then
errant ermine
oh so I won't be playing this fall then?
tulip hatch
No most likely sometime next year, but no ETA as of yet for A2
errant ermine
em I still be allowed to upgrade before A1?
tulip hatch
Upgrade for A1 is only for Kickstarter/summer backers
Store package owners can not get into A1 any more
errant ermine
oh darn... alright, guess I would have to wait a year again. Thank you for answering my questions
tulip hatch
NDA will drop for A1 at some point so you can atleast see how testing progresses
Youre welcome
Yes especially since comments not pertaining to the questions should be taken elsewhere c;
slate harbor
I just bought a2. Otherwise i will see it next year and want to play again and have to wait for b1 so let's see
hushed crescent
I don't get it
what do you expect to do in alpha
it isn't meant to be a enjoyable experience
hidden crane
Nothing has changed
ruby swift
Yes, once they announce server migration then all your inventory will go with you.
full badger
Steven is absolutely against anything even remotely considered p2w
The entire company and the game are built on the promise of no p2w
brazen sentinel
as long as the game isnt like ESO where basically all the cool gear is in shop instead of earned through game
like WoW
deft jay
Yesterday we discus it alot in this chat
jaunty locust
is there a way to update my client to be able to play the alphas?
i am i just need to know how to update the game i moved and havnt been able to update for a while
ruby swift
If you are a KS or Summer backer. Log into your main account and go to the store. You should see the various tiers you can upgrade to. You pay the difference from your original pledge. The level that contains A1 is Braver of Worlds and costs $500 and you get the lifetimes sub along with all the other goodies. If you already have that level of package, then all you have to do is wait until the fall testing to open up for BoW. (no date given)
jaunty locust
i see so I'm just going to have to wait for a bit then till my sector gets elected back onto the servers thanks.
vernal compass
Hm. I didn't get BOW for 500, I got intrepid? It had a1, unless I'm mistaken also no option for further upgrades.
lean marlin
if you have a concern regarding your account do make a ticket.
vernal compass
Def $500
tulip hatch
Intrepid does indeed have A1 when A1 was removed it was renamed to Voyager plus
crystal beacon
^
vernal compass
Ah. The BoW is 500 comment threw me into a spiral
desert ivy
BOW is only for kickstarter
fervent pollen
500 intrepid?
empty fjord
he refers to the intrepid preorder pack on the website which is no longer being sold
hushed crescent
Lmao no p2w as a promise is meamingless
you'd think he would say yes we're doing p2w if he was planning on it? marketing fail and shooting himself in the foot
pine glen
No sane man would make an MMORPG for the sake of the money.
lucid kraken
Steven still makes bank
@hushed crescent he does anyway though, regardless of ashes or not:)
potent thunderBOT
pine glen
@hushed crescent @lucid kraken How though?
lucid kraken
well im in the middle of co-op right now, by steven had/has a business before he started ashes:3
buy*
but*
lucid kraken
well yea but that doesnt mean he cant make any after that^^
tulip hatch
Please take your discussion to #general-discussion
Thank you
tulip hatch
Yes you can have Alts
we dont know the exact limit just that it will be a "comfortable amount"
Yes
full badger
You'll be able to change your secondary class, but not "on the fly"
tulip hatch
It will be done via in game functions
The cash shop will only be cosmetics
pine forge
I dont know if this was already asked but. Will there be a Option for Marriages between Players? And if so, any Boni or Gifts for them?
rigid rose
Marriage is a thing yes.
pine forge
oh cool thx^^
tulip hatch
Lol yea was about to say the first line in the link above answered that
hushed crescent
wtf is a poly
why is marriage important in an mmo
theres no political gameplay associated with it, is there?
tulip hatch
Polyamory - a marriage with multiple partners
Marriage is good for the RP folk, there are rp elements in Ashes
As for political gameplay are you referring to governments in Ashes?
crystal beacon
Nothing like exploiting your local node sweetheart into giving you the keys to the castle, then dumping him curbside. :)
open spindle
marriage is often the strongest link for co-op play too, if there are any benefits when playing together, like others
crystal beacon
That's actually a really good question to ask on this upcoming stream Q&A Thread.
boreal abyss
Yes, you are 2 people doing the content 1 person would normally be doing
This brings a few benefits
- Easier to fight
- Less boring
- Constantly social
brazen sentinel
i’m a little confused as to why a cash shop is needed if it’s a subscription based game
especially since that just takes cosmetics away from being earned through in game progress
fair yew
im not sure why that is confusing. There is no box price to the game so having a cash shop sell cosmetics is an easy way to increase revenue. Especially when there wont be any additional cost for upcoming expansions
full badger
Quite simple really. A subscription alone isn't enough to break even on an mmorpg anymore
So we have cosmetics to supplement to income
tulip hatch
There will also be similar variations of the cosmetics achievable in game via reward/crafting and so on, so its not completely taking away from it.
As the the others mentioned it helps ensure a steady flow of content that can be provided at no extra cost to the players.
deft jay
There will also be similar variations of the cosmetics achievable in game via reward/crafting and so on, so its not completely taking away from it.
As the the others mentioned it helps ensure a steady flow of content that can be provided at no extra cost to the players.
If its similar, what a point to buy it for real money?
Hello everyone
desert ivy
Similar != the exact same. Maybe they prefer the variation sold in the cash shop to the earnable in-game one
boreal abyss
You won't be able to find exact same in game
so for me, the point is that I love the exact color scheme 
deft jay
or it will be option for ultra rich people 
tulip hatch
It will be beyond a simple recolor, some aspects may not be in the in game cosmetic but still have a similar feel
but yes if its not to your liking or if you prefer the in game variation then theres no harm in passing on it
opaque needle
Its for the people who don't want to put in the time or effort for something that look good and buy their way up. But only to be looked down opon by the community who puts in the hours and the skill of actual cosmetics
I'm all for it if it puts put good content and ling content for the people interested in putting time into the actual functions of the game and world
tepid flame
I wouldn't see it like something for people that don't want to put the time or effort but more like something for people that have some extra money and want to support the devs with more than the sub
deft jay
this thing is called P2W. just saying
tepid flame
It is a cosmetic only cash shop nothing give you power in it
deft jay
but it you can trade your money for your time
glossy ether
15 dollars a month im fine on, because currently im paying for my subscription in wow
deft jay
yes mb its not a pay to win exactly, but unfair i think... kind of...
tepid flame
and to continue on what jahlon said if I see someone with a cool cash shop cosmetic I will think that's a nice looking skin but if I see someone with a cosmetic that he earned in game even if I dont personally like how it look I'll be a lot more impressed because I know he did something ig instead of only buying it
full badger
@tepid flame come join us in #aoc-discussion 🙂
velvet mulch
15$ is a pretty fair price, more so if there won't be additional payment (forced). Cosmetics is a choice, and to be honest most people can save up for that little extra if there is a costume you really want. I've seen some games allow for selling of store bought cosmetics at a fixed price.. but that could still technically allow someone to "pay to win" even at extreme lengths.
difficult to avoid p2w, and yet please everyone.. after all they got to make money to keep developing the game and cover the costs.. which we are all gaining from in the long run.
dark jungle
cosmetics are account bound in ashes
desert ivy
Yeah they've already said that they're definitely not allowing people to sell the cash shop cosmetics
hidden halo
I don't understand the cosmetic shop issue. My wife and I play FFXIV...you get "minions"...little guys that follow you around...and nothing more than cosmetic. My wife wanted the Panda bear minion, so she bought it on the cash shop. Is that really a big deal?
velvet mulch
I agree, from the perspective I've seen this is the best solution for a fair playground, and honestly cosmetics usually isn't outrageously priced.
burnt cliff
Cosmetic cash shops will be a thing for any game from here on out. Even offline games at this point its something we have gotten use to. Now the real problem that even I cant agree with are loot boxes. As long as the cash shop allows me to buy what I want ill gladly spend tons. But throw any loot box in and thats a no from me
fair yew
I’ll treat that as a question but please take any discussion to #aoc-discussion Steven has had issues with loot boxes in other games so there is no chance we will see loot boxes when it comes to AoC
burnt cliff
Oh thank you, that is very comforting to hear
pallid horizon
I can't sign in to the Forums, is their a bug or something? When I click it takes me to a blank page
pallid horizon
So I need to download chrome to sign in? I can sign in to to my account just fine from the website but not the forums.
They need to fix this I use Microsoft Edge.
placid vessel
Eugh
Please, get rid of edge.
It's a horrible browser.
Anyways, I'm fine on FireFox.
crystal beacon
It's gotta be something on vanilla forums end. But something CS and front end developers can look at. Please provide as much details as you can in a bug report via ticket.
https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
They'll look at it as soon as possible. Until then, you might have to download another browser. @pallid horizon
Can always reinstall edge, but that's all I can really say. Hope you get it worked out! I can however say, edge hasn't been working for my performance tastes personally.
plucky pawn
If you continue to experience issues once you've confirmed that your Edge is fully up-to-date, please feel free to reach out to us so we can investigate further @pallid horizon ! In the meantime, as others have suggested, another browser may provide you better luck
pallid horizon
It is up to date, and I have sent a bug report for it, and yes it work on chrome
pallid horizon
Their is Microsoft edge and the new Microsoft edge, it work on the new onenot normal one
Her is a photo for their icon
*here
Not her sorry typing error
The one that you will find normally on any new device is left one and it get updates, the right one you have to download from the website and its call rhe New Microsoft edge.
crystal beacon
Thank you, I will remember this if others experience any similar issues ❤️
fair yew
Not to make this a discussion but my pc automatically installed the new one a few days ago so this shouldn’t be an issue as more people update their pc
hidden crane
^ The new Edge is part of the May 2020 update which is slowly being rolled out to various windows 10 users
brazen sentinel
Will there be transmogs?
fair yew
All of the cosmetics you see are in essence transmogs
full badger
@jaunty nymph https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gear_appearance
desert ivy
Surely the first line answers what you want 
lucid ledge
What about identity politics Cultural cultural representation and diversity in the game
the majority of fans demands it
ruby swift
There are 9 different races with cultural influences based off of irl cultures. All the diversity you could want. No IP blocking, no gender locking. Pick your poison.
lucid ledge
Pick your poison. nice bigot
ruby swift
Hmmm...not sure why making a choice is considered bigoted. But you do you.
lucid ledge
you thing it poison smh
ruby swift
Ahh, might be a cultural idiom thing.
dapper void
Hmm
median forge
that's a very interesting question, you should ask that in the next livestream
hushed crescent
@deft jay It won't be same
quasi pine
Is this correct? When someone's node loses a fight losing players will lose items from their personal inventory, in node business, and possibly freehold.
or not the personal inventory?
crystal beacon
I'm getting AA flashbacks of defense. Walls swarmed by p2w
empty fjord
the difference is that anyone deemed p2w will get a big fat ban hammer
I mean gold buyers
tawdry crow
Sorry if this has been asked recently, I haven't been active in this server for a bit; do we know what Intrepid plans to showcase this upcoming stream, or is it exclusively a q&a this time around?
crystal beacon
@tawdry crow no idea except for Toast! Probably updates on their move, some work in progress things, update on covid. And Q&A at the end
tawdry crow
Gotcha, gotcha
agile flame
Hi all, just a random question about the economy & what's been revealed of it so far - I've read mention of "NPCs selling items," has it been revealed what extent of items in the game world are infinitely sold by NPCs? As opposed to being provided/influenced by player action?
One of the things that has me really excited about AOC is how its economy sounds like it might resemble that of Eve, with all or most items in the game being introduced into the economy only by players.
analog panther
So is the world fully open world pvp? Or is it limited by zones and instances?
slow meadow
It's open world PvP with a corruption system. There's PvP around caravans, castle sieges, node sieges, etc as well. more can be found here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP and here** https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_corruption
stark oxide
how does the game count it when you attack a green player, but let him get killed by a NPC?
boreal abyss
As far as we know, you will still be flagged as "Corrupt" in that case as you was part of why he died
Details about how much corruption compared to if you did all teh work is unknown.
Details on "how long after I last attacked before it doesnt count" is unknown
stark oxide
that is so great to hear 😄 thanks
heady quartz
No, you wont be corrupt unless you actually kill the player (last hit)
analog panther
Well if he gets killed by an npc his fault
Thanks for the info @slow meadow
Fo we know if the combat system is gear based or level based? Means if there are levels and a lvl 1 can't beat a lvl 10 even if he has good skill.
stark oxide
mhmm i strongly disagree...
if i fight against an enemy equally strong as i am and get attacked and left with lets say 10-15% life its definitely not my fault
analog panther
Okay.. I hope its more skill based than other mmorpgs, for some competitive and true pvp. I liked how it was in the battleground, its a shame they never intended to make no use of it at all .. like what was the actual gaing behind that ..
desert ivy
The BR tested the action side of the combat and the strain on the servers and testing their backend
twin belfry
Have they mentioned anything about class development lately? I’m very curious about how they’re going to do some of the whackier combinations like the Cultist- Rogue/Priest.
I’m also curious about how each class will affect their weapons, since they mentioned a while back that they want every weapon equippable by every class. Will the class still be able to function fully if said Cultist switches from daggers to maybe a scepter or a bow?
ruby swift
Certain classes will have better results with certain weapons is what they have said.
main gulch
Do you know when we have new gameplay/information?
crystal beacon
tomorrow is the next developer live stream
ripe dagger
Is there a way I can see what my backer level is? I purchased through the website and had two upgrades I think? I can't see what that grants me access to anywhere though.
unfortunately, it doesn't 😦
that's the thing...there's zero names... I just have the dollar amount
500
dark jungle
braver of worlds or intrepid pack
ripe dagger
thanks... anything I should do to fix my inventory and/or badges for forum?
potent thunderBOT
Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
ripe dagger
I want to make sure I don't miss out on tests and such
ripe dagger
thanks all!
I wasted an hour poking around websites and forums...should have just come here first 🙂
heavy cradle
Do we have a rough estimate as to how quick Intrepid want to move from Alpha 1 to 2?
(Obviously when it starts in Fall) - anything been said about a few months? years? etc
desert ivy
No, but it's safe to say that the alphas will be the longest testing periods with the betas being shorter.
heavy cradle
Makes sense not to release milestones, but would've been nice in case their current thoughts are 'Alpha should be around 6 months, Alpha 2, 6 months etc'.
But if there's nothing, then we shall wait and hope.
desert ivy
Cause even they don't know how long the testing will be.
heavy cradle
They'll have timescales in-house, even before it opens up. 😛
desert ivy
They need to see how everything plays out, how many bugs are found, how the servers handle the load, how the gameplay works
heavy cradle
Or predicted timescales at least.
desert ivy
I doubt they do tbh but idk
heavy cradle
Yeah - best way.
crude fable
Is there any source on what exactly will be accessible to citizens vs. non-citizens in nodes? For example, could a non-citizen buy gear from the store, use AH, training, etc.? I've looked on the wiki and see either contradictory answers or answers that are 3 years old.
crude fable
Thanks
dark jungle
what contradictory answers? @crude fable
granite sun
Will gear be level-locked or bind on pickup or anything?
crystal beacon
So far no level required to wear gear.
quasi pine
citizens get to vote by mail
Hello citizens!
didn't look at the timestamps. That conversation was 3 1/2 hours ago
ho hum
grim fossil
i think votes are only for scientific nodes
economic nodes want money
militaristic nodes fights
and religios nodes something with quests
quasi pine
correct!
fathom ocean
Hype
dark jungle
no point in sleeping now i guess
quasi pine
Is that today?
full badger
Yep, it's Friday already
slender shuttle
that's at 3am Saturday morning here.. will, unfortunately catch it tomorrow on YouTube..
empty fjord
if that was the case for me I'd nap before and watch it in bed
white sequoia
@plucky pawn grab your snacks Taco and cookies? 🌮🍪? given the heat in the UK i think you mean Iceream! 🍨
empty fjord
Tacos can be consumed in any weather
wide gale
plucky pawn
@white sequoia all snacks allowed and welcome, bring 'em on down to #aoc-discussion !
white sequoia
issues with the stream ? showed 5 minutes reset at 19:00 then 10 more minutes at 19:05 ?
median forge
yes
plucky pawn
@white sequoia Maggie posted an update in Twitch chat but it might have flown by 😄 waiting on folks to get into the stream so ty for your patience!
white sequoia
hmmm twitch chat shows blank for me i even refreshed but ty for the info 🙂
sharp fractal
will there be any events ingame with diseases that spread by contact. or even just disease/curses that spread the same way
devout socket
Okay so will freeholds be able to be "connected" or right next to each other to make a makeshift town, if the city is run by people we don't like?
devout socket
So we can't have our freeholds (individual housing ye?) near friends?
placid vessel
^^^
devout socket
ugh sunny beaches! That's frustrating, but I get it. Are there any alternatives to living in the city, again if it's mayored by people we don't like/get along with/etc, while still being in our group?
tulip hatch
You can move if you dont like your mayors.
You can place freeholds near each other if you want
There is a limited amount of freeholds permitted
but you cant control who moves where
digital yacht
@devout socket go to another node
devout socket
It's just one city per node?
fiery crown
Hey guys does anyone know when apocalypse will be back up? Or is it over for quite a while? 🙂
digital yacht
@plucky pawn any chance of LoM getting into the tests or do we get in the same time as the BoW?
willow junco
Hi, long time away. There's no testing as of now?
I noticed the profile is kinda bare. Just shows the dollar amounts on purchases. Is there a way to get more details? i know they were made forever ago but curious
oh thank you @simple ether
plucky pawn
@digital yacht you can always check on the latest updates using the !playtest command as well!
sick needle
How will you combat bots? When there is no box price of the game only subscription? Since there will be less of a cost they would break even quite quickly, and not have all that much of a loss getting the account banned and only losing subscription cost for a month. I'm not sure if this has been answered before or not. Thanks
sounds nice, i hope its able to catch them all.. maybe bump up the tracking on new accounts.. not sure if that would help or not
fading latch
Youll never catch them all, but they have contingencies in place to make the best of it
digital yacht
no trading duh
sick needle
they should track large amount of items being traded aswell, since they could be sold for gold.. but i think that might be more difficult than just gold
digital yacht
yea bc ppl could horde them on alts or a guild leader type stuff
ruby swift
They have talked about various systems they have in place. They have been aware of the issue since the inception of development and have built their systems in such a way to be able to monitor it. That they have shown they are willing and aware of the issue is about all we can expect at this point. If it doesn't work, it won't be from lack of trying.
sick needle
ok thx 🙂 always good to know they r going to try to stay ahead of it
meager dragon
Will everyone be able to have a freehold or are they limited/contested?
placid vessel
Yup, you'll want to choose your freehold location wisely
fair yew
in some ways you may want to have it in a remote location for less chance to be sacked during a siege. but it also means less people to help you defend it if its found
meager dragon
Ah cool. I just want to farm :) thanks
placid vessel
You're gonna have a rough time, just saying.
harsh harness
Was there an update mentioned on the cosmetic shop items rotating/date?
placid vessel
No, not as of now.
harsh harness
ok thanks. cheers!
placid vessel
No problem.
valid nexus
Hey I didn't get a chance to ask this during the Q&A segment today but is the plan still for the leveling experience to take ~45 days? Is that game time or based on an amount of daily play? @idle siren Thanks again for these awesome updates btw! 😄
placid vessel
I believe it's still along those lines, yes. Steven and co have mentioned before that they want levelling to take time.
I'd assume that is daily play, but I'm not 100 percent certain.
@simple ether can clarify further.
valid nexus
Gotcha! Ty for the quick answer!
visual steppe
Can you have a house in the city and a freehold set up? Say you wanted your home in the city center but wanted like a workshop[ set up for your freehold?
crystal beacon
If i remember right you can have one freehold per Account and one in node House per Server. So yes
dark jungle
prolly until this goes away
slender shuttle
hey all.. today's livestream was at like 3am this morning (my time).. can someone point me to the video for it.. can't find it on youtube
acoustic karma
Im quite a patient person, this isnt a question to rush anything Im just curious as I am a bit worried im not getting what I paid for yet. I also missed the stream so im not sure if it was addressed in this stream or not, Ill watch the vod later. I'm wondering if the people who ordered the "Intrepid pre-order pack" has gotten their access to alpha-1 yet or not. I would appreciate anyone who has an answer for me, tyvm!