breaching some account sharing rules they have
#questions
spice pond
i cant find anything on the matter within the forums so im asking here
in essence to reiterate, i have an alpha 1 onwards key account with an authenticator and a friend with an alpha 2 onwards key account. Is it "ok" to allow them to play through my account until alpha 2 onwards comes around for them to be on their own, or is that going to cause trouble?
feel like i need mod help on that question
ruby swift
"You may not transfer your rights and obligations to use the Platform." https://ashesofcreation.com/terms
No Account Transfers/Sales . Accounts are registered to you personally and may not be sold, traded, gifted or otherwise transferred at any time under any circumstances.
spice pond
ty
ruby swift
And here is a real life example why they prohibit it. https://news.sky.com/story/friend-accidentally-sells-mans-1m-game-character-for-400-11870613
frozen vapor
Hello friends! Need help I can not log in to the launcher, says authentication failed.
Login, password is correct. I log in to the site without problems. Who knows what the reason is?
jaunty mango
ripe timber
Any sort of update about any phase of the mmo coming out at all?
spiral torrent
@ripe timber nope
ripe timber
Yikes
midnight crag
Any partial world reset mechanics planned, like an extremely hard corrupted invasion to deal with weaker citys
):
Wheres nodes 3 lol
untold schooner
arent we suppose to get divine & military nodes before?
spiral torrent
everything is unknown. nothing is supposed to happen. all we know castle siege - alpha 1 - alpha 2 - beta 1 - beta 2 - launch. but even that could be up for grabs... who knows
untold schooner
Well they had the economic and scientific in depth nodes mechanic roll out before last summer, still waiting for Divine & Military ... huge gap
true
fresh heart
Well, supposedly there are pending changes in the designs for Divine Nodes and Military Nodes, therefore delay in the already completed articles.
desert ivy
Where did you even hear that beta 1 opened today 
placid sequoia
Ashes of creation wiki
odd pond
Apoc br open beta was dec 18th...2018
placid sequoia
Lol, I'm late
fresh heart
@spiral torrent Completed but not approved pending design changes.
spiral torrent
@fresh heart no. If it’s waiting for changes it is not completed. It’s literally what completed means... done with work on it. If it’s waiting for changes it is not done with work on it.
This comment right here is the definition of a white knight. You’re trying to spin something into a positive for Intrepid. It’s not even that big of a deal that it’s pending changes and it’s not ready to be released. But you can’t white knight so hard and just say that Intrepid completed it and they did a good job on it. It’s not completed, it’s not out, it’s waiting for changes. It’s not a “delay in the already completed articles” like you said.
Stop trying to put a positive spin on everything and just call it what it is.
midnight crag
Though @spiral torrent well you would be a black night then making everything have a negative spin no matter how small
Plus why fight over a small thing as an article
spiral torrent
It’s not even that. I said it’s not a big deal
It just bothers me to see white knights try to spin absolutely everything into a positive when there is none
midnight crag
Thats fair but save energy for negative criticism during alphas, betas when changes are nessesary instead of fighting white knights now
10k people bound to be alot of bugs
fresh heart
It is not being a white knight to say what factually happened.
For all we know there won't actually be any changes to the articles when they are released. The articles were completed and submitted for approval. They have not been approved because there may be some significant changes in the design - those possible changes are still being discussed.
spiral torrent
Pointless conversation again
fresh heart
All conversation with you is pointless. Yes.
midnight crag
Lol and it continues
tulip hatch
Discussions and comments beyond questions and answers should be in the appropriate channels friends
onyx grotto
After update I cannot login in my account for APOC
silk oracle
@ripe timber there is closed testing for the siege mode tomorrow
fuck sorry. discord showed old messages
onyx grotto
@supple wing After in Steam click Launch it open launcher, I click Play it asks login
I login then opens game, and it asks login again in game, but when I try to loggin it trows error code 23
glad oracle
When can we see more information, via writing or videos, about classes?
slow meadow
adding to that. It's likely we will only be getting information on the base classes at that time, and also likely to only be 4, as that was what we were supposed to get at the start of alpha 1
spiral torrent
Alpha 1 is supposed to contain 4 races and all 8 classes. @slow meadow
Yea the 8 main classes
slow meadow
@spiral torrent your right, I got that part mixed up. 8 base archetypes. Bard, Cleric, Fighter, Mage, Ranger, Rogue, Summoner and Tank for Alpha 1.
fresh heart
Steven does sometimes slip and muddy the official terms... 😛
untold schooner
so does everyone else in life 
crystal beacon
Are going to have in the game a complex crafting system, for example if I want to craft I will need to get the ingredients in order to craft it from bosses or mops or even get those ingredients from other crafting professions?
dark jungle
yes
crystal beacon
when did intrepid studios said that?
dark jungle
strong talon
Hey where did my question go?
I got a message pointing me to the T.O.S. bahahaha. It was a hypothetical question 😄
still wyvern
strong talon
Well with a community moral this tight at least we won't have to worry about peeps using aim bots on the servers! 😄
Is Intrepid giving us private servers or at least letting the community develop private servers?
dark jungle
no
placid vessel
That would undoubtedly kill aoc's community.
acoustic rune
Apoc is for testing. Don't think there ever be any private servers
Even if they lock progression on them
viral torrent
Apoc will most likely be a standalone mode after release
Depending on demand I guess
weak sparrow
nah if it continues to be empty they will just stop supporting it, the only reason it became a standalone game is because the community, who were doing the testing on it, begged for it to become its own game and Intrepid did what was asked for
the people that didn’t do any early testing just see a br game being released and are throwing a tantrum like a toddler
vale turtle
oof. Did we beg for it? 
fringe venture
weak sparrow
lol
acoustic rune
No, just to the ones who overreact strongly
But you seem to know a lot about it, dontcha?
viral torrent
I don't get a word what you're saying but you should move to #general-discussion if you want to chat please, this is the questions channel
@weak sparrow I think Steven mentioned it
(about keeping the BR mode)
desert ivy
Apoc's ded
upbeat jolt
Isn't that kind of the definition of a dead game?
white sequoia
hmm ok i thought it would let me into bot/ai match type thing if no one else queued
white sequoia
kk ty
strange mason
Heya where is the real game? Every where i look i see battle royale. Soo where is the real game i paid for?
desert ivy
modest sierra
winter zinc
Is the mmo gonna have any portal system to travel faster between various locations?
slow meadow
@winter zinc no, fast travel will be mostly non-existent. Scientific nodes at the Metropolis stage will have some fast travel within their zone of influence but basically fast travel even something like an airship would be exceptionally rare if existent at all. In order to have the open world pvp matter and have caravans matter fast travel can't exist
would really hurt the economy as well
pearl oyster
Has PI began testing Seige mode?
slow meadow
yes they have done testing earlier. ("have done", really? English is hard. they DID testing earlier)
placid vessel
Yeah, the PI was able to test sieges earlier today.
winter zinc
@slow meadow cheers for the info
gloomy fjord
So... when is this game going to be released? i backed the kickstarter when it first came out and kinda fell off when they put a BR into the game. Need a new MMORPG ya know?
grim breach
The BR won't be in the game. It is separate from the MMORPG itself and is used for testing purposes. Depending on the demand, Apocalypse may stay even after the launch of the MMORPG. The MMORPG that you're backing for, those features that you think is what defined this game as a new (revolutionary?) MMORPG are still being made. @gloomy fjord
quasi walrus
i heard that mages can combine together to summon greater things will the summoners subclasses have an effect on what is summoned?
lean marlin
Any classes in the same group, I forgot the number needed, that are of the same class can do some sort of "mega" skill. What those are we don't really know at this moment in time.
drowsy holly
yep we had an example of a "mega" wall summoned by a group of tank too (i don't have sthe source sry)
crystal beacon
how customisable will the characters be ? can i even make mine really tiny like a gnome for instance ? and would that affect jumping height ? = o
viral torrent
I doubt it. (the second one) that would be messy. Imagine it you had to jump over something to access an instance or a raid and you wouldn't be able to get past that because of your height lol
tulip hatch
@crystal beacon
Each race has its own max and lowest height restrictions
They have been stated to be reasonable
crystal beacon
oki nice thanks for the info ❤️
quartz coral
I got a question?
silk oracle
@quartz coral yes
silk oracle
runic palm
i think they will introduce some sort of fast travel. I don't have anything against travelling around on mount, actually i like exploring, but there will be things that will require u to fast travel. but it may be restricted to special occasions.
glass tusk
Pls make the game one time pay coz i cannot afford subscription base im still a student not working yet i wanna play this game when it’s out also i hope this game is more into exploration coz u know i wanna get immersed what’s important in mmorpg for me is the roleplay sadly not mmorpg’s have that today.. and i want to work with many players along the way coz there are other mmorpgs that u seem like ur just olaying solo because if the quest although its good sometimes too i think..
Not many*
Playing*
Of*
velvet maple
@glass tusk Well in regards to the role playing element and playing with players, what they have said makes it sound like there will be a lot of content for that. In regards to the subscription model... well there is a good chance you wont be a student anymore when the game comes out...
fresh heart
You probably won't be a student by the time the MMORPG launches. 😛
crystal flax
Someone already beat you to that one Dygz
crystal beacon
Hahahahaha
brittle gust
y'all know its probably true 😉
woeful zephyr
Nah I don't know that, sorry
brittle gust
okay zara goodnight
crystal beacon
Hello i work 12 hours every day i can play games only for 4 hours every day and i have 2 days off every week were i can play too will i be able to catch up with people who play more than 8 hours every day ? because its very importants its a pvp game i dont mind to pay real money to catch up with them not to pay to win just to catch up and thx for you answer.
desert ivy
Paying to "catch up" is pay to win though. There won't be anything in game that you can buy with real money that will allow you to get in-game benefits in any way.
It's an MMORPG so you'll always be behind if you play less or less efficiently than other people, that's just the nature of the genre.
slow meadow
@crystal beacon if pvp is done the way that Intrepid has described the difference that gear makes will be minimal when compared to player skill of similar level players. This will help negate the issue of how long people have to play being as big of a factor. And as Talents said there won't be any catch up mechanics because Intrepid is extremely Anti P2W or even Pay to Convenience.
fresh heart
How many people work 12 hours per day and also play games 4 hours every day? That is hardcore time. I can't imagine who you would need to "catch up" to.
Ashes is a PvX game. I think playing 40 hours per week will not have you needing to "catch up".
lean marlin
^ this
crystal beacon
We can all just guess but 4h for 5 days+ 8h for 2 day i think u will be ahead not behind mate. Btw dont forget this game is not "END GAME" mmorpg, so u wont be rushing to max lvl or best gear cuz u will need resources to evolve ur Nodes 2 get better stuff in them, and that is server based xp per zone of influence. I think there is no need for "catching up" just enjoy content.
crystal beacon
ok thx vm all
kind viper
I am new to the game. I got a problem, when I am on the character selection screen I can't click the play button, and on top of my character says not ready. Also the resolution is very bad an I dont see where to change it.
fresh heart
To change the resolution, click the 3 bars in the upper right corner of the screen. Choose Settings. Then Display Resolution.
I dunno why you can't click Play. Perhaps try choosing Game Mode, then Solo. Check to see if Play becomes active for you to click.
kind viper
I can't click the 3 bars in the upper right either. I think it has to do with the wrong resolution, because other buttons respond when I click in a random near empty space. how can I change the resolution before enter the game?
crystal flax
Alt+ enter
stone siren
serene sparrow
Do we know if Castle siege is coming this year? I tried looking around but was unable to find anything.
lean current
do we know approximately how many people are in the PI? Is it 10 or 100 or 1000?
ruby swift
Anyone who pledged over $2500 is in PI, from the original KS counts that was around 100. With others known and unknown to have upgraded since, you can estimate under 200. But no firm numbers have been announced from info I have seen.
dapper frost
halcyon vector
what package gives phoenix initiative royal?
and do we have any idea when to expect the update letter from steven?
so sometimes after the first of theyear
or maybe before
will cosmetic items be bound to accounts or tradeable?
ty
so if you get the leader of men package though you would be able to give the guild livery/cloaks out to your guild members i assume
or else it would be a little pointless
ruby swift
@halcyon vector They are going to have problems with that particular reward is my prediction. Once the cloaks and barding are assigned to a guild they can not be removed. If you are not the guild owner and leave, those items will stay with that guild. On the other side, if people leave the guild, they will go back into the "pool" of available items.
pearl oyster
So between now and the end of the month we have at least one video coming, correct? One guaranteed tomorrow according to the stream? Plus the directors letter?
placid vessel
Writing for the next 5 days....Hope it's good
arctic sky
placid vessel
😂
gray patrol
How do you link your kickstarter stuff with everything on the website, etc?
fading latch
Redeem key option on your account page @gray patrol
gray patrol
Thank you!
jaunty apex
Was there any new info about sieges in the last stream?
lean marlin
The only new info on it was 🤔 how to put this. Minor in the Major category.
slow meadow
@jaunty apex There was not during the stream but the following Thursday after the PI members got to test, they were allowed to talk about it. It was just under a visual NDA from what I understand. So it seems all the expected pieces are there (capture points, stationary/mobile ballista, mobile trebuchets, and claiming the final relic) As well as abilities and varied health/mana for each of the roles. (subject to change/grain of salt and all that for accuracy of my notes as they are second hand)
bitter imp
i wanna test it T.T
winged sparrow
god no
woeful zephyr
Why would you even ask that here?
dark jungle
crystal beacon
+all mmogamers here wanted a real response
vale turtle
I don't think it's the best place to ask a question about a not well-respected mmo 
winged sparrow
maybe try #general-discussion
halcyon vector
hail hydra!
mighty glade
any updates lately on mmo betas?
placid vessel
Nope, no dates.
fading latch
Beta? We arent even in Alpha yet
placid vessel
^
dawn roost
shouldn't we get some notes at the end of they year? Still didn't see anything...
They said it during last livestream
slow meadow
supposed to have some automated drop of something (likely video) tomorrow for christmas
golden cloud
there was meant to another one on christmas eve too
"also on christmas eve we will have a video"
buoyant siren
Hi all, any idea date for siege or anything?
crystal beacon
@simple ether Bro i just watched ur vid from august 11. 2018. about pvp i legit almost died when u said we will have 2 w8 couple of weeks for alpha 1 so we can test combat legit made my day
brittle nymph
Is this game even going to come out? im starting to get pist off here
brittle nymph
It just feels like they wasting time with this BG they have then with the actual game
cinder ridge
Will sieges have roughly the same system requirements as the BR?
spiral torrent
The BR was not necessary. Testing was necessary, but let’s not pretend that the BR itself was specifically necessary
Let’s also not pretend that it’s a good thing they chose BR as if that saved us from more delays. A0 map with PAX classes (with action abilities) would have been just fine. They chose to go with BR, but again let’s not pretend it was necessary or the best option.
jagged laurel
I think the BR served its purpose
No complaints beyond the lack of communication qnd honesty
Dont act like a BR is the worst thing in the world...cuz its not
spiral torrent
It served its purpose. However, the conversation was about whether it was necessary or the best option for testing.
spiral torrent
I didn’t say it’s the worst. I said it wasn’t necessary or the best option
And they were clearly wrong
jagged laurel
Explain
quartz coral
Take it to AoC discussion
jagged laurel
Not worth discussing imo
jaunty mango
when will it be possible to buy an early access kit?
hidden crane
It's possible right now. However the access itself (The alpha testing phase) has not begun yet. So just wait until Alpha1/Alpha 2 is announced :D
@jaunty mango
spare sorrel
when will the dev letter be released?
acoustic rune
Soon
small pecan
The Community Marketing Lead said it should come out before the end of the year!
ruby moss
Are there still cosmetic items to earn in APOC for the MMO?
dry flower
Yes, unless you have already earned them all
visual isle
is this game out in eu or still not ?
idle prairie
The game isn't even in Alpha yet. Just testing for backend and action combat right now.
iron vault
when will node 3 come out?
fading latch
Speculated for Alpha 1
iron vault
why did they put microtransactions in the br that was for testing when they had a great kickstarter
fading latch
Extra funds I can persume
iron vault
i don't think so but if thats the case then they are not great at handling their economy
fading latch
Only Intrepid themselves can answer that for you
iron vault
i presume so
hidden crane
@iron vault The BR was an additional testing phase that they came up with after the kickstarter. Since it wasnt initially planned (BR/Siege/Horde) extra funding to keep the servers up was garnered via the shop.
Server hosting on AWS isnt exactly cheap, to keep the servers running for months on end does run up in costs.
Kickstarter was around 3-4 Mil which was the funding for additional features. Steven himself has put in close to 40 Mil of his personal funds into the project.
iron vault
but then is i have another question why did they make it a seperate game and keep it when they could have just dropped it after the testing was done and just focus the entire studio on the base game
hidden crane
@iron vault Steven very clearly stated the BR was built as a test ground and it would only run until it was useful.
Right now the reason its still up is because Castle Siege (The next phase after the BR) uses the same client/lobby etc
iron vault
but didn't they decide to make apocalypse as a seperate game
hidden crane
There's no point in there making multiple different clients/lobbies and wasting development time.
Apocalypse consists of all 3 game modes, BR/Castle Siege/Horde Mode
Think of Apocalypse as the PTS (Private Test Server) for the MMORPG where all cosmetics/new skills/abilities are given to players to try out before they are put in the MMORPG
A skinned down, simple client that lets players queue into quick lobby-based matches for the devs to collect data.
quartz coral
^^^And that’s how you properly explain shit
Even though alpha 2 will be the official pst come launch
wanton narwhal
when game coming out ?
velvet iron
should i get thin crust or handtossed?
velvet iron
You're the best!
lament wing
Any news on the letter? Or is that for next year..
earnest bramble
If we can have the duo mode in BR again, then we can play better with friends. Because Castle Siege still needs time. @idle siren
small pecan
@lament wing, according to the Community Marketing Lead, should be this year (probably the 31st)
lament wing
Thx!
fresh heart
By the time I convinced my co-hosts to play APOC, Squads and Duos were shut down. Only reason they would play is if we played together.
More communication about time frames for each those modes might have been helpful. Could possibly be helpful even now - let us know in advance that Squads and Duos will be available for a specific weekend.
Might get people to come back for a couple of days to complete quests.
But, the devs talk about the BR in past tense, so I don’t think they really care.
spiral torrent
Good. It was about time to move on.
wanton narwhal
T_T waiting
surreal merlin
will this game come out in 2020? or is it likelier 2021?
desert ivy
Definitely not coming out in 2020
small pecan
Yup! At best, the MMO alpha might start in 2020. Maybe a release in 2021? We have no hard dates though; it’s all speculation
spiral torrent
Based on their development habits and progress up this point my guess is that AoC will come out no earlier than Q4 2022.
crystal beacon
Where do I report bugs of falling through the floor???
potent thunderBOT
empty fjord
No reason to speculate when the game will release, wait till the Alphas start so you see an indication of how much is left before it seems like a finished product
surreal merlin
@empty fjord you are right, lets wait til alpha. however...i hope it wont take until end of 2022. thats to long in that case that they wanted to release it in 2019 :b
empty fjord
you will most likely see Alpha 1 in 2020, then you will have an indication of when Release might happen
albeit a very rough indication
spare sorrel
Hi, its the end of year, will the dev letter be out soon?
regal oak
slow meadow
considering we are going into 2020 with major systems still completely untested and without iteration (castle siege, classes, horde mode which is enemy AI) getting through alphas in 2020 would be a good bet. I would expect the betas to be early and mid 2021 with fall being release and with delays winter release. of course as Jahlon said there are not actual public roadmaps, but we can make educated guesses based on track record.
wraith blaze
Take all the time you need Intrepid ✌️
fair patrol
But hurry up
empty fjord
I wouldn't expect the betas to be months apart or months long tho. if done right they would be a week or two long each and several weeks before launch. by the time they go into beta the game should be feature complete and thoroughly tested in A2.
spiral torrent
If done right... we have yet to see things done right around here. I really hope that all of the 2019 set backs will allow for things to be done right in the future. But for now it's not looking positive.
granite sun
Is the letter supposed to come this year or did they say to expect it early January?
pearl oyster
Before the ball drops or he dropped the ball.
fresh heart
There were MMORPGs with betas that were a few weeks rather than several months? Which ones?
wraith aspen
and will people be "satisfied" with only a few weeks access for $75-150?
fading latch
@fresh heart Elder Scrolls Online. 4 weeks
fresh heart
I'm showing they had several closed betas in 2013 and released in 2014.
wraith aspen
yea, does not hold up
also ESO took 7 years of dev before launch
also their beta sign ups were free
fresh heart
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/735
"As some of you know, we’ve been in beta testing for about a year now, leading up to our most recent test in late November where we had over 300,000 people in the game over a 48 hour period. We’ve had approximately 4 million people sign up for beta and that number continues to grow. We hope that just about every one of you who have signed up for beta will get an invitation to play sometime between now and the weeks before launch. These tests are very important, not only for gameplay feedback, but also to test our infrastructure. Beta tests can sometimes be a little rough when we are testing some systems for the first time with large numbers of players. So thank you to all who have participated for your understanding and support. It is very much appreciated."
---12/11/2013
lean marlin
I do remember them having several testing phases though. I was in all of them.
fading latch
Ah i see. Regardless. Intrepid believe they will be a few weeks. Will have to wait and see
slow meadow
The beta timeframe will likely be 3-6 months. Considering the level of polish needed to launch a game like Ashes with so many interconnected systems and having a player driven economy. During the closed beta Intrepid will be hoping to find all the bugs and exploits within those systems so depending on numbers 4-6 weeks. A break period to resolve the biggest issues (1-3 months depending on severity) and then about a month of open beta for final stress testing and last round polishing. This could be offset some if the Alpha 2 is extended to cover some of the items normally handled in Betas but its just hiding the time somewhere else.
abstract jackal
So the beta for the mmo is out now?
crystal flax
No
subtle wagon
i assume most of the bug hunting will happen in alpha 2
and beta will be finishign touches i think
crystal beacon
When is the game set to come out
placid vessel
There are no dates.
uneven hamlet
Do you guys know if there is any info out about skills for classes? I'm trying to get an idea of what class/subclass i want to go for and get a general idea of the skills/passive skills. 🙂 🗡️ 🏹 🔥 ⚔️
fading latch
No there is no info yet for abilities. There is some vague info for the main classes on the wiki
uneven hamlet
thank you for the reply @fading latch
idle prairie
@uneven hamlet Arisingsun put out a video in #community-media that talks about the siege classes from some PI people. Might want to check it out.
uneven hamlet
uneven hamlet
private on both
idle prairie
can you get it?
uneven hamlet
:c
idle prairie
😢
fading latch
@uneven hamlet bear in mind those siege classes are not in the mmorpg. They are just for testing. For a more comprehensive look at what could be in the mmo, please check put this: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
uneven hamlet
ive had my eye on that spreadsheet for quite sometime 😉
fading latch
You can then filter through the main classes and have a look see :)
uneven hamlet
i guess my main concern is knowing all the skills that pertain to those classes so i can find which will be most beneficial to my playstyle
fading latch
That will be closer to Alpha 1 where we test the 8 main archetypes
Which is speculated for 2020
spiral torrent
@fading latch that is false. all of those classes except for the engineer are one of the 64 combos. so 7/8 of those classes will be in the MMO. They might change a lot between CS and launch of the MMO, but they will currently an early iteration of those exact classes.
5/6*
fading latch
Yes but they are for testing abiliies. In the mmo they wont be the same.
spiral torrent
you don't know that. They are an early iteration for the exact class that will be in the MMO. They could stay the same or they could change completely. But they are the exact same class
fading latch
Hence why I said just for testing and wait for Alpha 1
spiral torrent
but it
but it's wrong to say "bear in mind those siege classes are not in the mmorpg. They are just for testing".
They literally are the exact same class. We don't know how much they will change or not change.
fading latch
Cool cool
spiral torrent
@simple ether I've stated that the only class that isn't one of the 64 is the engineer (not machinist). the other 5 are the same classes as in the MMORPG. Just because the ranger is locked into a ranged weapon doesn't mean that it isn't the same class. We know that some spells are related to your weapon and some spells are related to your class. So the class should be the same regardless of which weapon you use. Which is why 5 of the classes (Guardian, Weapon Master, Archwizard, Hawkeye, High Priest) are the exact same class as in the MMORPG. Now, we don't know how much they will change or not change, but that doesn't mean that in their current iteration they don't represent the exact same class. Which is why I said that Shadowheart shouldn't say: "bear in mind those siege classes are not in the mmorpg. They are just for testing".
They could still have all of the class' action skills. That still doesn't mean it's not the same class which is why Shadowheart shouldn't say: "bear in mind those siege classes are not in the mmorpg. They are just for testing"
fading latch
Class kits are specifically for the siege mode of testing. They have a variety of uses specific for siege testing. Will some of the abilities carry over to alpha 1/2? Possibly. But they are not indicative of the mmorpg
uneven hamlet
Well, my main goal here was to just see if there was any info given out yet as far as class skill trees. But I see how there is a lot more they're building upon still. I'm sure siege mode will help at least mold an idea of what class to play for us since it is a bit more of the Archetype model. 🙂 and even more so during alpha.
fresh heart
APOC will have the same names, but not the same gameplay. Which is why what we have in APOC is class kits.
Also, aren’t the abilities in APOC Castle Siege coming from weapons?
In the MMORPG, any class can use any weapon.
There aren’t enough abilities to really have a skill tree...yet.
fading latch
@uneven hamlet The class wiki page i gave you will give you some insight into what could be in Alpha 1. But yes, Alpha 1 is when the main 8 archetypes will be refined more so. Right now its just hand picked information thats been collated so far. Nothing concrete
uneven hamlet
All i know is that its going to be tough deciding on what to play D:
fresh heart
Yep. Test it. 😛
fading latch
Plenty of time to decide 😊 if you have a backers package you can also test them out ahead of launch to decide
uneven hamlet
yea considering that alpha / beta will be wiped before launch 😛
fading latch
Yes there will be a full wipe before launch day
spiral torrent
yay for Intrepid being clear once again. Putting in the exact same classes as the MMORPG, but not the exact same classes.
@fresh heart the wiki states that the classes in APOC will not have their skills specifically tied to weapons.
slow meadow
@spiral torrent in the BR abilities are tied to weapons, starting with castle siege we get "class kits" which will not be exactly what we are going to get in the mmo but will be a first pass at the base classes (archetypes I think is the correct current term Intrepid is using) represented. So they are the classes of the mmo just the first pass where they can start figuring out what they actually want the mix of abilities to look like.
spiral torrent
of course it's a first pass. I was referring to Shadowheart's quote from the wiki
fresh heart
Doesn’t matter what the wiki states. I’m sharing what the PI testers have stated. They can correct me if I’ve misunderstood. I haven’t played.
dark jungle
the wiki is correct
uneven hamlet
👀
dark jungle
i am a PI tester
spiral torrent
^
fresh heart
Cool. So... how did the abilities work with regard to weapons. Weapons have abilities. And then there are a couple of non-weapon abilities?
dark jungle
there are 4 class ability slots, 2 weapon abilities and 1 potion ability slot
fresh heart
Also, it’s class kits - not classes.
dark jungle
in the CS testing
uneven hamlet
interesting
fresh heart
Thanks.
uneven hamlet
fresh heart
@dark jungle Did they use High Priest or Cleric for the names in the PI test?
hidden crane
Cleric
dark jungle
^ ranger cleric tank mage
fading latch
@uneven hamlet basically. Wait till Alpha 1 to decide classes 😅
fading latch
Apoc is action combat testing
But yes the mmo will. You can only go 75% one way. Tab/Action
uneven hamlet
That has a huge impact on gameplay.
but at least in siege we can play with skills a bit 😛
slow meadow
Intrepid has a ton of experience on their team with tab targeting which is a much less complex system, so they have been focusing on action to make sure they work through as many issues as possible before starting to combine the two into the hybrid system.
fading latch
Yeah you can have a play. But dont take the class kits in siege as what the mmorpg classes will be
uneven hamlet
ive always enjoyed tab targeting when playing Aion Online
but also enjoying action combat in apoc
fading latch
You can mix and match abilities as you see fit. Just remember its a maximum of 75% one way
uneven hamlet
if i had to choose between the two it would be tab because i could direct more focus on skills rather than aim. but from a distance, aiming with action combat would be more beneficial imo.
Trying to figure out what you mean by 75%
i see
fading latch
^
slow hound
Is main game already released? And another one?
slow meadow
no apocalypse is a testbed for action combat and systems that need testing ahead of the mmo
uneven hamlet
i remember auto running to a target when using a skill in Aion. was kind of a lazy man method but it was really nice.
especially for melee combat
but if i were a sorc, aoe placement id want that to be action combat
or same thing with a ranged attack with a bow
slow hound
Where can I read about release date of main game? Or does anybody know it here and now?
fading latch
There is no release date yet
uneven hamlet
slow meadow
no dates are valid currently. they have switched to everything is more or less opened up as its ready. Dates are now only given when they are certain of them. We know Castle siege is next and likely happening soon, but there is no date beyond the one that was given for the PI backers to test (as example)
lean merlin
Alpha 1 before Q2 2020
reef prawn
Source?
spice pond
May have missed it somewhere, but will alpha 1 and 2 onwards have any kind of NDA?
vast cove
is the mmo cancelled? will they ever release it?
fair patrol
unique jungle
open sierra
99% of the people just cant understand that Steven is joking 😄 ... and thats pathetic
just turn that hype in something relevant in your life and when time comes you will enjoy on your game you drugmans!
silk oracle
@simple ether u sure u wanna leave that video in the questions tab ?
vale turtle
If people don't see the context in that video, it's all on them tbh
There's no helping those people
silk oracle
@vale turtle yet it harms the game if people believe it. doesnt matter how stupid they are
vale turtle
That it does, that's probably why Jahlon remarked
In all seriousness, the MMORPG is still in development.
Ew, someone shat on the channel 
crystal beacon
Is there a letter out yet or is that today?
spiral torrent
not yet. we'll see if they can manage to release a letter on time or if we're going to have a double delay on a self imposed quarterly deadline
untold schooner
For future questions refer to the answer " no "
verbal parrot
You know when the game is going to come out in Europe?
untold schooner
No
desert ivy
In the future
lean marlin
Yeah nothng on the letter yet. hopefully we'll get something by the end of today. If not maybe after the drinking period.
fallow lynx
Can you invite your friends to a group?
lean marlin
in? @fallow lynx
fallow lynx
Ashes of Creation Ap
lean marlin
in Apoc? no. Duos and Squads have been down for long while.
stay tuned for sieges, then probably.
fallow lynx
Thanks for that. I just signed up today. I will keep an eye out
lean marlin
NP. anymore questions feel free to ask.
quartz coral
I have a question... when is it officially New Years ... when the earliest place hits midnight or after everyone else hits midnight???!!!
lean marlin
^
lean merlin
It was Said Alpha 1 will be delayed „months“ not „years“. Alpha 1 was scheduled for q2 2019 i think. So it should be before that q2 2020. maybe I’m not right on this
I know
But would be pretty silly obv
My delivery date for braver of the worlds was dec 2018
empty fjord
would be silly, but justifiable if they push it further and use wordplay to save face
empty fjord
the delivery date on KS was a ks thing, not the game itself, think they had to put a date there and that was the latest they could put
lean merlin
Ok cool
dry flower
it was originally slated for september then delayed to today
lean merlin
i hope there is some real information regarding release times in it
fresh heart
Highly unlikely they will include release times, but not impossible.
ionic oar
i like how lazypeon showed up, how long other mmorpg took in development and that aoc is still fine in time.
spiral torrent
@ionic oar the majority of people aren’t complaining about the delay of the game. Most reasonable people expected delays.
The big issues are horrible PR and marketing through the BR, the cash shop, and monthly cosmetics (amidst lacking meaningful information of other sorts) as well as a multitude of false claims and overall failure to build trust.
ionic oar
@spiral torrent
nobody says one need to play BR. nobody says one need to use cash shop in BR. Whats the difference when some players pay 500 bucks for an alpha or when they pay for cash shop stuff in BR? Its all irrelevant for the time when the mmorpg launch, just some skins here and there, no big deal. But fans, who has the money and dont mind to support the game, can do so. All voluntary and who is not doing it (or simply cant), doesn't miss anything out.
Fo me, they show and inform us on progress so much more often than other developers of other big games do. Whats the point of showing and explaining game mechanics, that are simply not done, need rework or just dont work how they should yet? When the time comes and interesting game mechanics are done, iam pretty sure, they will use the information to present it to the community. About PR... well, there is no way to satisfy fans that would like to play the mmorpg right now while the game itself still needs year(s) of development.
Just need to give them the time they need. No matter how much a fan wants the game get finished and playable, pretty sure the dev team itself, who is working as fulltime jobs on the game, wants to get the game done and playable even more.
wispy ocean
I think the PR is great. I think its awesome that we get this much involvement and insight into the development process. They don't owe us anything other than an MMO...the BR/CS and cosmetics is just them involving the community along the way. I've got a lot of respect for the team for continuing with the openness despite a particularly vocal and negative minority giving them shit constantly.
agreed @ionic oar
spiral torrent
Shoot I forgot what discord I was on. Nvm.
wraith blaze
Ooooo
stray current
I love the map. I can't wait (well, I have to...) to explore it!
edgy basin
Are there any official statements on how long we will be able to buy into Alpha 2?
native obsidian
So is the map gonna be the same on each server, but each node possibly a different type? As well as resources spawning randomly across the map?
fading latch
@simple ether what are those next to the starting gates on the map?
Like 2 seperate icons
So base camps are already on map?
dark jungle
fading latch
Ah so in lore basically, its people who have gone ahead before us
Yeah
And we are the second wave
Can any race choose any gate?
dark jungle
yes
unkempt mist
question about package upgrade:
I upgraded to Royalty. Do I need to send a support request for getting the PI info packet and forum tag/badge?
Okay. Thanks!
Yeah. I was thinking as well but wasn't sure if I needed to ping someone about the upgrade or if it was an automated process.
raven heath
So From the director letter we received does it mean that we won't have alpha until after march since thats when they want to show case it?
rigid rose
That is a fair assumption but we have no solid set dates.
lean marlin
^
silent lantern
We won't be seeing it even in March. The March version is supposed to be a very early iteration of Alpha 1, not what we are going to get. Remember, we still have APOC Siege mode and APOC Horde mode before we get to Alpha 1 gameplay from a player side.
Have they (Intrepid) said that? I don't remember so..
silent lantern
I don't mind if it does 😄 Yea, seeing it like that there is a possibility that Horde may come out after Alpha 1, but not sure if that would make much sense.
spice ember
I would imagine since they use agile/branching development techniques, they could test horde mode in another branch and merge any improvements such testing may uncover
silent lantern
Sure, but if Alpha 1 is out and Horde comes out after.. I can't imagine that many people will log off the MMO side and play tower defence
That's just me though
spice ember
non-alpha 1 testers could access it eventually
fresh heart
I expect Alpha 1 to drop after Horde Mode. So, Jul/Aug.
But, if it drops earlier - awesome.
dark jungle
Steven said that it's possible to get Alpha-1 before Horde mode https://youtu.be/Nllhw_slhE8?t=4146
He went on to say its "very likely"
spice ember
good find
umbral barn
spiral torrent
Steven said many things.
fast jasper
Is it likely the game will get released this year or is 2021 more reasonable?
desert ivy
No way in hell is it getting released this year
halcyon dome
'21 or 22 sounds more like it.
spiral torrent
My guess is 2022. 2021 is possible, but based on what we've seen up to this point it seems highly unlikely.
empty fjord
Are they going to stream anything from GDC?
sounds good. if they do show A1 at GDC I really really hope it's good
slow meadow
when I asked steven directly about horde mode being in 2020 because it wasn't mentioned alongside castle siege and alpha 1, he simply stated that when they have more information to share they will. So its safe to assume the only guarantees for this year are those two. Though my personal belief is that the first version of "horde mode" will be part of alpha 1, moving it to apoc for additional testing and refinement down the road either late this year or early next.
toxic quail
@silent lantern Being that Alpha 1 won't be up all the time, if they bring out Horde mode sometime during it, people might play it in the downtime.
rigid steppe
Will you be able to pick your starting zone or do you have to spawn in your races portal?
rigid rose
@rigid steppe currently you will be able to pick your portal so you can play with friends. Unless you are Tulnar and then you start in the underworld. (Subject to change of course)
fresh heart
Keep in mind that the plan since Feb is to announce dates about a week in advance... when they are sure they can meet that date.
Castle Siege has been through a bunch of internal testing and at least one round of external (Phoenix Initiative) testing, so being implemented into APOC in the next 12 months should be a sure thing. The current plan is to show some form of Alpha 1 at GDC in March, so some form of Alpha 1 should make it to external testing in the next 12 months.
Those are the two primary focuses.
I expect Horde Mode in 2020 as well, but if until they mention a date, they can't be faulted for not meeting the date. Steven is learning. 😛
rustic relic
So we have the world map and we know 118 nodes. Do we know how many nodes the underworld will be? Cause we could start to see a rough idea of how big a node area is gonna be.
Also: "Zones of influence connect fully across the world without any gaps", so I guess they will be quite large.
103 + castles. Yea. I was saying we could try to sketch out on the map some rough areas and as long as we have roughly 100 sections, we could start to see how much land is in a node. But with my follow up quote from the wiki, I don't think it's gonna be possible.
Ohh. Am I confusing zoi and node then?
I see. Oh well. I was just trying to draw some info out of that world map.
Agree. I'm just excited. Good letter this time around!
Hype for alpha 1 and castle siege for sure
Thanks for answering my question!
Been all over that.
I'm pretty familiar with how they work, the scaling and stuff. I just wanted to see how big / small they are. Was trying to see if I was able to math it out with what we already know, but it looks like not.
The castle regions will be on the surface though right? So somewhere in that map is the locations for the castles? Right?
We just don't know where yet. That's why I said 118 nodes - the under realm nodes.
But yes. I understand about the zoi now
So the under realm nodes will be in addition then?
dark jungle
The underrealm may have its own castle (part of the 5)
dark jungle
If the underrealm has 1 castle, then the overworld would have 115 nodes and 4 castles
rustic relic
Right but nodes are static. So on the surface there will be how many nodes?
dark jungle
^ all we know is that there is a total of 118
dark jungle
this is the questions channel bro, guessing is for the discussion channels
rustic relic
Well I started by asking a question. Thread got out of hand
Sry. I'll move
So then back to questions. How do the castle nodes work then? I thought they were just normal nodes, but connected to the castle? Meaning the land for them will be on the over world?
But nodes are static and the borders are defined. So that means somewhere on the map is an extra 15 nodes right?
Wait what? I thought the zoi was just gonna be the nodes that were controlled by the parent node
That changes everything then
Guess I need to study nodes again. Rip
Thanks jahlon. I'll leave ya alone now. Ha
placid tulip
Been out of loop a bit, did alpha ever start?
placid vessel
Nope, but hopefully this year.
ruby pewter
it is this year but when we don't know I have a feeling we know after GDC we should get a new timeline
🙂
silent lantern
GDC will showcase an early iteration of A1 so i doubt there will be much more information regarding to dates.
rigid rose
Will find out at GDC 😉
placid tulip
Think i only got beta anyhow ha
subtle wagon
hm i may go back through all the old stuff
small pecan
@subtle wagon, check out https://youtube.com/watch?v=LUJugtqTBxw&t=29m10s
It lines up with the southern gate on the West continent! They go from the gate, to the ocean behind, and up to the northern settlement. Then down to the forest area! The resemblance is striking to the map
buoyant siren
hi all, the next date for siege or alpha?
ruby swift
No date has been given
ashen vault
So, when will we be able to play the actual game, Ashes of Creation?
slow meadow
@ashen vault Alpha 1 is supposed to be shown at GDC this year with access for Alpha 1 backers sometime after that but still this year. It will be a very early version and not all systems, including classes, will be fleshed out, but its where Alpha 1 backers get to start playing and providing feedback on the MMO and since there won't be an NDA we will be able to stream it for the rest of the community.
hasty moss
What happened to tip tuesday, idk how to play
autumn trellis
Someone w/ eidetic memory. Did they state that the world would wrap around (as in you can travel off the east continent and go east on the sea and hit the west continent)
spare moat
There is really no way to get into Alpha 1 anymore?
desert ivy
Not unless you backed the Kickstarter and upgrade to the A1 package
spare moat
That sucks. I wish I knew about it then
sweet magnet
anyone know where to get a dl link to the installer for the intrepid launcher?
got a new PC and wanted to dl it
small pecan
Here ya go!
https://ashesofcreation.com/apocalypse
sweet magnet
Ty!!!
white pilot
Guys, could you please link for a guide on Ashes of Creation Apocalypse?
Some game features are not very obvious how to do..
small pecan
With actually playing it?
white pilot
@small pecan yes
@simple ether thank you!!
very hard to deal with some guys which know game mechanics much better than me..
i have to study! 🙂
small pecan
Another (much smaller) resource is checking out all the #TipTuesday’s in AoC Apoc’s twitter:
https://twitter.com/AoCApocalypse
But the AshesPost guide should have all of it!
white pilot
@small pecan thank you! 🙂
turbid eagle
guys, is there any ways for non ks or ss backers to get a1?
desert ivy
Not anymore
white pilot
guys, what is the current version of aoc? alpha, beta? v0, v1, v2?
fading latch
Pre alpha
white pilot
if i get access for 375 will i get a pass on it?
can't see
i see only beta 1 and 2, and alpha2
fathom ocean
You can't buy into A1 anymore
grim cairn
so when's alpha?
empty fjord
I'd expect the first half of the year at least
dreamy obsidian
When i checkt this game in the start of 2019 it had a open world when is that coming out the real mmorpg instead of nuketown fortnite
Like fighting dragons and shit
vale turtle
what?
No dates. Everything is TBA. Don't expect an MMO release this year. We'll probably get into Alpha though.
white sequoia
@tight gale @plucky pawn is there a reason when there is a patch it causes an issue with the launcher, I can get to the login screen but the mouse "wont" click on the username password box i have to use tab to get to the username and password box then when i get to the character screen I cannot click Anything as they are Offset " to click the Panel on the left hand side i have to be clicking 3 inches " to the right of it" really dont want to download the launcher for a 14th time ,
vale turtle
Try to Alt+Enter in and out
white sequoia
@vale turtle when i alt tab out the Resolution is fine but when i Alt tab back in it goes wrong again
white sequoia
alt enter does nothing.....
for me it seems to do nothing when i am in game now
n/m some one pmed me to use f11 which switches me into window mode now i can change the settings... so resolution is back to 4k 😄
vale turtle
novel blaze
hey guys is that game opne yet?
dark jungle
novel blaze
ty
desert ivy
leaden tiger
March 2020 mmorpg will announce GDC?
icy wedge
Quick question. The last time I checked the AoC website was in 2017, so the new format confuses me. Am I correct in assuming that the "Founder" section on the shop indicates that my Founder tier Kickstarter pledge was correctly integrated into my AoC account?
fading latch
Correct. If you can see the shops items and KS upgrade packs then youre good to go @icy wedge
teal junco
Hello all, Has there been any news on reselling the cosmetics that people couldn't purchase due to website issues a year ago? I'm still interested in buying the Dec 2018 - Jan 2019 ones. (The set with Urlor's expedition) We had been told they would go back up for sale due to the issues, but I haven't heard anything yet.
tulip hatch
Margaret stated yesterday that she is waiting for final approval on bringing those cosmetics back
teal junco
Awesome! Thank you very much.
open knot
hello, i just noticed that something on my payment went horrible wrong. I bought the winter edition bundle on December 11th. And what i got now in my Inventory are the items from November 6th 😦
fading latch
@open knot
vestal cape
I purchased founder tier back on Kickstarter for closed alpha phase 2. Do I already have access or am I still waiting?
fading latch
We are pre alpha at the moment, awaiting news for Alpha 1. If you wish to have alpha 1 access you would need to upgrade your KS pack to the required amount @vestal cape
I think alpha 1 phase 2 is now just alpha 1 however
vestal cape
so alpha 1 is alpha phase one then, and i'm waiting for 2
fading latch
Double check your inventory
@simple ether
@vestal cape alpha one phase 2 is now just called Alpha 1.
So yes you have access
vestal cape
ok awesome
well apparently not, my inventory says alpha 2
oof so still only apocalypse. dang I was hoping to finally see the game.
yeah founder is the $250 i think
i got early bird though so i spent less
fading latch
If you want alpha 1 access you will need to upgrade your KS package
vestal cape
i've waited this long lol. i'm fine. Keep playing destiny 2 and maybe check out how crowfall has been doing in the mean time
vast crescent
@plucky pawn Why did the "Know Your Nodes:" blog series come to a halt in May 2019? and When is it expected to continue once again?
untold schooner
@vast crescent the story goes that steven didn't give a final approval for divine and military nodes yet because it was subject to change
vast crescent
okay thanks.
serene sparrow
Their has been a lot of talk about gliding mounts and I am curious if these mounts will have a set height that they move at or will they be like the Griffin mount in GW2
lean marlin
If I remember this correctly, this was meant more like a hovering thing? Don't really remember.
white pilot
sorry, is there is a way to buy 375$ edition with winter skins?
new ones looks much worse for me..
lean marlin
@white pilot just hold off for a month.
white pilot
@lean marlin you mean after a month skins may be changed?
@simple ether ty, i am a bit confused what to do..
serene sparrow
@simple ether Thank you for the info. I guess I was wondering if you jumped off a cliff would you fall to your death or would you glide.
lean marlin
They will, it's happened every time so far.
We just switched over to this months today. So next month should be new ones.
white pilot
okay, thank you. lets have a look on new ones.
serene sparrow
Looking back at my question I could have phrased it better.
The griffin mount in GW2 does not fly but instead can gain small amounts of altitude and then glide. Useful for not falling to your death. I understand hovering might be closer to what Ashes will have but will this allow the rider to glide down or will they fall to their death from a cliff? Thank you in advance.
vale robin
'does it grant a feather fall effect'
hidden halo
It's a cosmetic only. It does not offer anything outside of the look. If whatever mount you put it on would fall to its death, so will this.
runic ember
No I want to fall to my death mount included
serene sparrow
The question was not about the cosmetics. Just a gliding mount in general
lean marlin
perma death mounts. pls. kidding of course.
hidden halo
ah! mah bad
white pilot
@simple ether the problem is that I saw winter skins and Apoc release only on my winter holidays.. I thought about buying them, but now the idea of paying 375$ for just one skin which is acceptable to me(Luminous Starcrawler) seems rather strange.. I'm slightly confused about what should I do.. I think the best choice will be to behave in accordance with the advice of LegionEnt, maybe in a month skins from the pre-order will change again on more acceptable ones for me
stable plover
@white pilot If you are interested in the Luminous Starcrawler, you could buy this months 150$ pack, and upgrade to say the 250$ pack in a future month, you'd keep the cosmetics from the 150$ pack from this month, and would get the cosmetics of the future months pack that come from it's 250 tier, but not it's in it's 150.
white pilot
@stable plover thank you, i will think.
by the way, is it possible to buy 375$ pack now and after in a month to pay some extra(but not full pack cost, because access also granted) and to get new skins in addition to existing ones?
or we are allowed to have only one pre-order skin pack on account?
mossy cave
@white pilot Once you buy a pre-order, you can then purchase future items individually (but only the item type you have access to with your package level)
So if you buy the highest tiered pack, Voyager Plus ($375), then you can buy any future month's items without having to buy another pack. 🙂
Here's a link that may help: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026015874
and a breakdown of the cosmetics and costs: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041639433
white pilot
@mossy cave understood, thank you!
mossy cave
No worries, happy to help!
white pilot
🙂 👍
worldly vale
Anyone know how accessories are worn? Is it like a single slot in the character tab that's always just cosmetic? Or is it like a skin for a specific piece of armor (like this month's is helm)?
placid vessel
they're all skins.
tight gale
The accessory cosmetic would be an accessory cosmetic for a specific slot, like head for this one as you stated @worldly vale . 
worldly vale
Thanks for the specificity! ^_^
tight gale
No problemo!
untold schooner
@tight galehey Margaret how are you !! Its been awhile wow....
tight gale
(I am well, but this channel is not for idle chit chat. 
)
tight gale
It has been requested many a time.
untold schooner
Cool
quartz coral
Hey margarita does the accessory cosmetic work alongside the full cosmetic or do you have to choose either or
tight gale
The costume cosmetic does not come in pieces. It will cover your entire set.
The accessory cosmetic will only cover a specific slot.
quartz coral
I’m a little cloudy at the moment can you reword please? @tight gale
Or give an example or someone trying to wear a costume cosmetic with a accessory cosmetic
fluid scroll
I'm not Margaret, but the costume will cover everything.
worldly vale
It sounds like it works how it does in Guild Wars 2: Where an outfit is one piece that overrides your individually pieced armor set.
dark jungle
the costume would cover the accessory slot
quartz coral
^^ thanks
dark jungle
is the way i understand it
dark jungle
we have this
you'll have to wait for further clarification
dunno if margaret is still at work
quartz coral
Yeah but that doesn’t mention the accessory cosmetics along side the outfit cosmetic
dark jungle
correct
quartz coral
It seems counterintuitive to have a accessory cosmetic and an outfit cosmetic if you can’t use both simultaneously
Especially if you’re charging people for them
worldly vale
It's done in many games and makes sense. Outfits are often modeled in a way that would clip through other pieces of armor, outside what it was designed to go with. Accessories are an answer for mixing and matching, being designed with working with other models in mind.
dark jungle
yeah that is what i assumed was the reason for costumes covering all other slots
but clarification would be nice
placid vessel
I'm sad we won't be able to mix/match though
dark jungle
You could mix and match armor skins and accessories
quartz coral
If that’s the case I’ll just buy accessories from now on
Can you wear multiple accessories?
Like if I have accessory gloves, boots, helm
And jewelry
dark jungle
yeah you have different slots for all of those https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gear_appearance
quartz coral
Then that’s all I’m buying it’s cheaper and more benefiting because you can mix and match
worldly vale
One question I'm pondering though: Can you toggle the helm of an outfit?
dark jungle
you can toggle the cosmetic appearance of the helm tho
and yes you can toggle the helm totally off too
worldly vale
Nice thank you.
quartz coral
Lex is a beast with the sources
dark jungle
3 years writing a wiki helps 😂
quartz coral
^^ lmao
Can you wear both Accessory cosmetics and outfit cosmetics together?
Simultaneously that is
....
I’m a little cloudy can you give an example
Please
So no they do not work simultaneously @simple ether
Then accessories will be the only thing I purchase
Smh
urban echo
Will it be possible to hide helm and/or cloak on a skin? Or is it all or nothing when they get put on? Most games have an option to hide helm even on a cosmetic skin, and I just don’t like the look of most capes and cloaks personally.
devout stratus
how are cosmetics p2w?
crystal flax
You can't trade cosmetics though
I don't even know what marketplace or currency you're talking about, the only thing you can buy for Ashes right now are Embers, which can only be used for non-tradeable cosmetics
Cosmetics are all you will ever be able to buy with real money
ruby swift
Well, and your sub of course.
crystal flax
Marketplace as in the place you buy cosmetics, guess they just need to word it better
ruby swift
Lol, thank you for playing. See you at launch.
crystal flax
If you think that's aggressive, damn 
moving on since question was answered
white sequoia
I dont recall seeing t his in FAQ but are Are pets in this game purely cosmetic or can all classes have pets as a levelable companion?
ruby swift
There are 3 different kind of pets. Small cosmetic pets that are purely cosmetic, battle pets that can be tamed or bought from others and then reskinned with the same class of cosmetic skin, changing the looks, but not the abilities or stats of the underlying animal. And summons available to summoners that are based off of racials and other factors. Any archetype can use the first two, only summoner is possible have 3 out at the same time. Summoned pets reduce the summoners overall power to equal. Say your summoner is 100% "power". He summons a 20% pet. He is now 80% effective. More on the wiki. Link incoming.
white sequoia
awesome ty @ruby swift
ocean forum
is it normal that the website is kinda "boxed" with black bars left and right? 
fading latch
Yeah i think so. Looks like that on my phone if use desktop site. Not sure on the PC
past folio
Can we create another anogram for AoC so it's not associated with AOC
fathom ocean
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?
violet tide
I haven't signed into any AoC services for about a year, should I still have access to my account?
fluid scroll
@violet tide it may take a day or two to syn if you haven't been on in a long time
silent lantern
@ruby swift i think the power syphon to a pet was valid for the battle pet (tameabe ones) only, not for summoner pets as well, but i could be wrong
ruby swift
Hmmm...I saw it in context to the summoner when I found it out. Would be kind of weird to have a class that unbalances power that way. Guess we will find out once they ever release summoner info.
It was their solution to remove the "probe droid meta" that has plagued any game with pets since SWG.
silent lantern
sure, but by intrepids words a summoner would mainly battle through it's class summon, so it doesn't make much sense to give it only 20% of the players 'power'
ruby swift
Percentages were pulled outta my ass.
silent lantern
well, 20 was what was rolling around, but it is probably going to be different
the wiki also references the tamed pet type: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pets
ruby swift
All a wait and see. Could be they found none of it worked with the systems they brought online, so changed it all. Spitballin what they would like 2 years ago probably got the cold fish smack of reality once they tried to code for it.
silent lantern
true
noble quartz
So is ashes going to be action combat like the BR, or tab target ?
slow meadow
hybrid. you will be able to choose action or tab abilities to add to your bar, but you can only create a maximum mix of 75% of one type. so if you like tab you can have up to 75% of your abilities be tab, but will need to slot at least 25% action.
obtuse perch
Would it not be better to show the packages already modeled. Like if i have purchased a package, i do want to pur hase future mounts and stuff but i just feel that with a medium sized picture it does not give me a good perception of the mounts or stuff that i want to buy. Would it not make sense yo have a fast draft of the monthly packages?
acoustic rune
Modeling takes a long time my dude
ruby swift
All purchases from concept art are a leap of faith. Any purchase made before the game releases is a leap of faith. If you have no faith, don't spend the money. But then don't cry when that faith rewards others with awesome stuff.
boreal abyss
I like your explanation of it
white pilot
By the way, one question :)
Will it be possible to trade cosmetics from pre-order pack in the in-game market or complement it to your friends for free? Or it will be binded to the character after receiving?
ruby swift
All cosmetic purchases are account locked. Items in game can be traded/sold/gifted. There is very little BOE/BOP planned.
This is to prevent the gold selling and RMT that plagues other titles that allow it.
white pilot
understood, thank you!
surreal horizon
@tight gale Can you give us any update on when we'll see Divine nodes? And secondly, I'm sure you know that with some of the larger community of people waiting for ashes that there has been a bit of confusion over the extent to which time investment has been put into AOC Apocalypse along with some of the cash shop stuff. I remember you guys did a lot of Dev Diaries and such, studio tours, etc, in 2017 and 2018. Can we see those back as well? I really want to see this do well so I and many others feel that if you could bring back some of that transparency into the way you relate to the larger community, it would do a lot to encourage us.
stuck minnow
I'd prefer it if they just focused all efforts onto building the game, so that they could make the deadlines. Maybe as a community we're asking for too much communication from intrepid?
surreal horizon
@stuck minnow I mean maybe? I'm just worried that there's people getting the wrong idea about Intrepid and the project as a whole.
vast field
Hello guys is there a taming system in this game
midnight wolf
@surreal horizon Good point, I also want to mention they have some people dedicated for PR right? That might represent an opportunity for more transparency without losing efficiency.
fading latch
@vast field yes
silent lantern
@vast field yes, though we have almost no information about it. Basically there will be beasts and animals you can tame throughout the world. Some can be used for transport, others for mounts, battle pets, farming and cosmetic pets.
Taming will be a profession - so something you gain skill in and level up. From what we know (or speculate) you will be able specialize in what exactly you want to tame.
tulip hatch
@surreal horizon
Our community managers are usually away on the weekends
Our last update for the Divine nodes articles was this month
Margaret is waiting for Steven to approve the article for publishing.
surreal horizon
@tulip hatch Thank you that's all reassuring! Last question, how about more dev diary stuff, studio tours to see how things look and have progressed? if any of that is feasible.
tulip hatch
Those are definitely Margaret and Toast questions!
You could ask again on Monday if you want a direct answer if they dont check in today or Sunday.
Most i can do is relay the question and get back you when they respond c:
tight gale
More Dev Diaries, Creation Videos, and other types of development insight videos will be coming this year. Stay tuned. We are aiming for one video a month if possible, and we've been consistent with that.
And as @tulip hatch said, I am waiting on approval for the article. (I have been for awhile.)
(Also, as she stated, we are normally off on the weekends, but I do tend to check in. )
tulip hatch
@surreal horizon there you go!
Thanks for checking in Maggie
uneven narwhal
hushed bluff
been a while since I lasted looked for any news
has there been any alpha 1 news yet?
feel like this might be a 2022 release xD
desert ivy
Maybe. That'd mean 5/6 years of development which is on par for an MMORPG
hushed bluff
I want a new good mmorpg to play!
havent been anything good in years
cinder gyro
well you wont find that here any time soon
closest thing actually releasing is like ... new world
last osprey
well there is ff14, wow will have a new exp and aau. also eso is kinda entertaining. so i dont think we are out of good mmos... on the contrary
lean merlin
project gorgon is nice
slow meadow
project gorgon is not for most people. not to mention the lag and 180 camera flips are difficult on the people that can enjoy it. but as it gets further it will appeal to a very small niche
surreal horizon
@tight gale Thank you! Very helpful! Is the approval just because of not wanting to release stuff that isn't confirmed to be in the game or can you not disclose that?
small pecan
believe it's that Steven doesn't want the actual implementation to differ from what would be in the article right now--because the vocal minority would make a fuss! so he wants to finalize the designs more before giving it to us
surreal horizon
@small pecan I figured that I just thought i'd ask since she was being pretty responsive.
midnight wolf
@idle siren Can we get a prop hunt for the APOC game mode or other. Maybe something we can all have fun with whilst waiting for release? Was a group effort but Chaoser definitely brought up the idea. He gets half credit lol.
mighty pilot
@idle siren When is the referral page getting an update so you can see some statistics like in the old site?
fading latch
7 
hardy viper
I miss that too. I am not invite friends at the moment, hoping we will get more info about the referrals (like the old system or Better). So i can start talking about ashes again
spiral torrent
@midnight wolf why would they release “for fun” prop hunt game mode? This is a game that’s under development not a “for fun” play session. Have your BR if you want to play around and let them develop the MMORPG.
midnight wolf
That’s a fair point. But I think it’s exactly what you said. Fun. Something fun and more social than the competitive BR would be pretty fun to do. In saying that, it would be hilarious to do regardless of when we see it. What I would consider fun anyway. Was just an idea after all.
Tis what makes a community diverse right, having various different opinions and views?
@spiral torrent Want to ensure that no one is twisting my words and making them something they're not. Just wanted to provide a productive idea to the community.
crystal beacon
Tem data prevista para estreia ?
surreal horizon
@midnight wolf The MMO will give you all the fun you'd want if it delivers. No goofy prop hunt stuff or anything else that would hurt the company's reputation, and you want ANOTHER mode that would divert development away from the massively ambitious MMO? No thank you.
Respectfully if you want prop hunt go play Witch It or Peekaboo. They're very fun little games.
midnight wolf
I mean, not if it would divert resources no. It's just because there's already the polymorph ability so I would think it would be possible with some cooldown tweaking. One way to change it using current systems and mechanics.
spiral torrent
@midnight wolf that’s the opposite of a productive idea. That’s the problem. Creating this prop hunt “for fun” mode is directly counter productive to the main goal of creating an MMORPG. If you want “for fun” go play a different game. This is a game under development with testing phases, not a “for fun” game at the moment.
sullen peak
A1 invites? You said keep an eye on emails for invites. 👀
Losing interest in this game tbh, they keep dangling a1 , castle seige infront of us but not really stating anything real or new about when they may b here. #pleasedontpullastarcitizen
sullen peak
Guess its not worth getting into with a snarky response like that, that makes it seem like u didnt even read what i said rofl
Oh well, we will see this year if its worth the wait or if its just another "star citizen" situation
dark jungle
2020 will prove to be a year of progress and MMORPG testing. Next month, we will begin internal testing of the MMORPG Alpha One client. I am also proud to announce that at the Game Developers Conference in March of 2020, we will be showing off an early look at Alpha One.
We have a lot of work ahead of us. In 2020, we will be inviting you into the Alpha One test phase where you will get to experience the systems and mechanics of the MMORPG we have all been waiting for. We are excited for all of the data this will provide us with and cannot wait to make the iterations necessary to create the MMORPG of our dreams. The Alpha One experience will not be under NDA, so our glorious community will be able to watch along as our Alpha One testers take their first steps into Verra.
Additionally, 2020 will see the public testing of our Castle Siege mode in Apocalypse, where players will be able to experience our objective-based warfare, siege weapons, and destruction systems that will be employed in the MMORPG.
From the creative director's letter 31 december 2019 https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2019-12-31-creative-directors-letter
Worth a read
timid scarab
is it still possible to support ashes of creation on kickstarter?
small pecan
Nah :(
dark jungle
kickstarter has finished, but you can still support the game by buying store packages @timid scarab http://ashesofcreation.com/shop
small pecan
Alpha 1 phase 1! Aka Apocalypse:
https://ashesofcreation.com/apocalypse
^ has a playable Battle Royale game mode and soon (ish) a Castle Siege
MMO Alpha (alpha 1 phase 2) hasn’t started yet
Just throwing it out there as that’s where he probably got the idea from that it’s still in Alpha!
So chill on the nitpicks!
native glacier
Any chances of getting a Japanese/cherry blossom cosmetics in April???😁 @tight gale @plucky pawn thanks in advance!
crystal beacon
🤢
earnest bramble
Just nothing in the direction of Asia, hope that such a style never comes from Ashes. ;] Asia optics there are enough Mmo'S
acoustic rune
Hence why theres always a demographic ||of weebs|| that will demand it. Orcs already draw some inspiration from asian cultures
red yacht
Where is New roadmap?
lean marlin
did they release a new one?
spiral torrent
@earnest bramble got bad news for you. A whole sub race (Ren’Kai orcs) is based on Japanese culture.
half lagoon
guys when is the convention
and whats it called
ya
ahhh i see
thats why its so weird
thats not what i meant sorry
it wired because i never heard about it
@simple ether keep up the good work my man
😍
crystal beacon
can someone explain why this game is focused on everything that no one cares about? in-game cultures and different type of buildings?? no one that will play this game competitive cares about story & environment. stinks horribly of Asia MMO with pay2win concept. is that the case, am I being bamboozled?
runic palm
if they stick to what is known, there is no p2w. all purchases are only cosmetics. and i for one am really interested into ingame enviroment,
proud raptor
^
crystal beacon
so you are willing to sacrifice performance and pvp balance for environment and graphic design? cuz that is where they put most of the effort or at least at the moment
every update I checked is all about some designers crap
u tried their battle royal?
play it for 30 min
max
runic palm
i am RPG player, really love to explore, and see stuff that is worth seeing. yes i did play BR, and trust me itös far better now then it was on start
proud raptor
so you are willing to sacrifice performance and pvp balance for environment and graphic design?
Wrong assumption, wanting an enviroment does not mean sacrificing pvp balance. You can set your quality however you want, but games releasing now need to look better than WoW did at launch.
small mica
Also pvp balance is a different thing at different levels, do you mean individual or team play?
runic palm
btw BR is already history (maybe we will see something in real MMO but don't count on it), MMO battle will be different in end product, castle sieges will be closer to that
tulip hatch
Greetings as these are more discussions than simple questions and answers please move it to #aoc-discussion
crystal beacon
ok let me rephrase then; with all the graphic enchantments to the game and it's environment, is the staff making sure that wont effect servers stability and performance in the grand scale of things (like mass pvps)?
tulip hatch
The dev team is being mindful of how the game performs on high to low end PCs
Optimization is a focal point throughout development
crystal beacon
thanks for the info.
so with that in mind, we can rest assure that with high end PC rig, the game will be able to run on 100+ fps without any problems because of the heavy detailed terrain?
with terrain i mean everything, skill effects, terrain details, environment design and overall every graphic detail
tulip hatch
Thats certainly a question for the development team on how they plan to tackle and refine optimization later down the road.
It's not something I can answer for them
crystal beacon
am I the only one seeing that you cannot hope to resolve optimization "later down the road" and still keep it a priority? korean mmos has been trying for a decade and still havent figured it out, but they are targeting high-end graphics because that is the sole reason of MMO game success in asian markets.
is your team prepared to balance the scale of graphics/performance problem and how?
tulip hatch
Intrepid is actively optimizing throughout development.
By later down the road I mean check in when the game is more filled out and into the last stages as things change during the course of development.
As I stated your questions are best suited to be asked directly to the developers as im simply a volunteer moderator, I can not provide you a current indepth look at what measures the developers are taking to ensure optimized play.
You can make a forum post or wait for livestream Q&A sessions with the devs to get a better insight on that topic
I can tell you that the dev team is more than aware that waiting until later to optimize and build anticheat features is a bad idea and are implementing these things from the foundation and every step of the way as they have discussed this very topic with the community before.
crystal beacon
thank you for your time. i will addressee this thing with dev. department in the near future.
tulip hatch
You're welcome
If you keep an eye on #aoc-discussion sometimes the Devs and Steven pop in to answer some questions and chat
mild bear
@crystal beacon The client side will have lots of personal switches and levers to adjust the demands of your system. In other words graphics performance is built from the ground up with degradation and optimisation in mind. This has been covered in previous videos by Intrepid. I am afraid I dont have the time to get those references for you. Also network/server performance has little to do with graphics performance, which is why it can be modified client side.
hushed bluff
is there anywhere to throw out suggestions? (nvm )
silent lantern
@hushed bluff the forum would be the best place as developers and the community management team can directly look at them
hushed bluff
yea i found that, why i edited in that nvm 😛
silent lantern
my brain is fried, but good that you did 😉
potent thunderBOT
summer robin
when the mmorpg will release
silk oracle
@summer robin yes
desert ivy
Answer still hasn't changed since the last time someone asked it
It has been asked literally 1000 times in this channel. The answer is exactly the same each time.
summer robin
no date?
silk oracle
yes
desert ivy
I don't know
silk oracle
vast cove
1001, when will mmo be released?
silk oracle
@vast cove yes
vast cove
i mean when XD
small pecan
Bes, basically no ETA. people speculate 2021-2022 for full release
and a playable alpha is confirmed for 2020!
vast cove
yaya i know im just kidding XD even if they start alpha 1 right now they cannot release before 21 ^^
silk oracle
@vast cove #aoc-discussion
hasty moss
So with animal husbandry, "during the Youngling stage there may also be quests for specific types of cosmetic features" (ashes wiki), will these cosmetic features be limited to the base appearance of the animal or will it also apply to skins? Thinking these quests would be pointless if you are just going to slap a skin on anyways
crystal beacon
are the mounts on the store exclusive or can you earn them in game
dry flower
I don't remember anywhere syaing they can't be earned in game later on. All I can see is they can't be "purchased" again
fading latch
Only variants
desert ivy
The cosmetic skins in the store can't be obtained in game. You may be able to get cosmetics kind of similar to them, but not the exact ones
fading latch
They are a limited time exclusive. Once they are gone. They are gone forever
dry flower
maybe I just missed it, got a source where they say the skins can't be obtained in game in the future?
found it, thanks Guys
so @crystal beacon that's a no for getting them in game in the future
worldly vale
From the way they've talked about it: it seems they are mostly planning on using the models and skins for NPC use at first, then maybe variants for cash shop.
foggy halo
it might be a no for the exact skin to be earned ingame, but is it a no for getting variants of them ingame? with breeding for example..
or are these types of creatures just not breedable?
fading latch
The monthly cosmetics are skins. The creature attached to them still needs to be earned/tamed in game, regardless if you own said skin or not. There may be variants of skins from the monthlys, but they wont be similar @foggy halo
foggy halo
sure, but i wonder if we'll have one or two generic mount species ingame for each type of mount and if you want something more exotic you need a skin
or if you need those exact creatures
and can actually find/tame them ingame
fading latch
Breeding is far more complex then that. Please take a look st this: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry
foggy halo
i get that, but let's say i have the whispering watcher, do i just need a gliding mount like a gryphon to apply it or will i need the same species?
fading latch
Ignore the skins as anything but that. Skins.
foggy halo
okay
fading latch
There are skins that are completely different then its sub set its applied to.
Just know you will need the animal required to apply it. We dont have that information as of yet
foggy halo
i'll wait, hoping for more infos ^^
brittle crystal
ive been lurkiing around a bit and looking for some tulnar info.. i know there isnt a lot out there but. will we be able to have for example purely feline features?
plucky hatch
So I walked away from following the game a while back cause I feel the MMO is dead. Is there any conformation that it's not?
slow meadow
Alpha 1 will be shown at GDC with alpha 1 later this year. Castle siege testing before that
plucky hatch
Thanks I hope the best for this game, I don't know why they focused on APOC
But not to turn it into it's own game. I understand testing but not a run off
slow meadow
testing core systems of the mmo. Action combat, siege mechanics (point capture, buffs, UI progress updates), horde mode for AI related systems. That is the focus of APOC. isolate the systems so you can iterate quickly and in a controlled environment
spiral torrent
Once again, let’s drop the ‘APOC was needed’ stuff. APOC was helpful in some ways, but definitely not needed.
A0 map with PAX classes would have worked just fine.
spiral torrent
@simple ether neither did BR classes before they were created for the BR. They had to create new classes anyway. Maybe they could’ve altered the PAX classes a little instead of creating brand new ones. Regardless, action classes for the BR is no different than action classes for A0/PAX testing. So still APOC was not needed.... useful maybe, but not needed
silk oracle
grizzled citrus
Can anyone clear up legendary items? So in the wiki it states " We do not intend on having legendary items that are temporary" Steven Sharif. But it also states there many be legendary items that are a once per server thing. So does that mean that one person gets lucky and finds or gets a legendary drop that can never be gotten again and and has it forever. Yet it also states legendary items will not be RNG based. " The fact there is only one of them... or very very few of them depending on what it is. I think that in and of itself is a balance component" Steven. So someone gets the legendary item, years later they still have it and are the only lucky one that got it yaa good for them. What happens when they stop playing. Idk it seems like a race for a certain item between guilds and whoever gets it first has it forever and only one person gets it idk that would kinda suck.
hmm ok, yea im all for legendary items being hard to get and take a while, but one person only getting it, if its actually strong that seems like something that would create alot of unbalancing
yea but in guild wars, or sieges, whoever has this one super strong item would have a major advantage i would imagine
slow meadow
@spiral torrent The dev team with decades of experience, thought that the best way to get the data they wanted was through APOC. By building up true scaling network architecture (not something PAX had) and pulling over assets that were being built for the MMO they felt they could control the variables enough to learn what they wanted. APOC was needed because its what they determined they needed based on their experience which is the only fact that matters. What they got wrong was how it would be perceived and how long they could keep people playing to get that data. From a technical standpoint it was fine, its just the PR backlash calculation they got wrong, which is kinda to be expected since their devs and not PR experts.
Their learning lessons and adjusting from it which is about the best you can hope for when PR goes that wrong, but it does take time. Alpha 1 will be their real next test.
spiral torrent
@slow meadow they could’ve used that same “true scaling network architecture” on the A0/PAX assets. The BR is just a skin for them to test of deeper systems. That skin could’ve been anything else including the already existing A0/PAX components. So I’ll say it again.... APOC was not needed. Maybe helpful, but not needed.
plucky pawn
Since this is turning to more discussion rather than questions, let's take it out of the #questions channel! 🙂
restive brook
is there any active player testing for the actual MMO? Or is it all Focused on APOC rn?
dark jungle
alpha 1 testing is starting sometime this year
they will be showing it at GDC in march
restive brook
Thank God. I will prob start dishing out money to be a part of the MMO testing then. Thanks for the update.
dark jungle
ruby swift
@restive brook Unless you already have access to A1 or possibility of KS upgrade. Going to be a much longer wait.
restive brook
yeah A2 is prob far off
ruby swift
Purchase of access to A1 is closed except in a few cases.
restive brook
if they charged a ridiculous price id prob still get it.
been following AOC for a long time now.
turbid egret
when is next live stream? isn't it like last friday of every month or smth like that?
silk oracle
@turbid egret usually around that time yes. not announced yet tho
icy idol
anyone know why i cant buy another pack on my.games site ?
wraith blaze
Will each of the 64 classes have an ultimate skill at their disposal?
fading latch
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ultimate_skill This is to be revised in alpha 1. Bear in mind this info is from 2017. Might be a good idea to ask it in the next livestream for an update. @wraith blaze
wraith blaze
Yea good idea, and thanks as well
silent lantern
@spiral torrent many of the systems they want on the mmo map didn't work properly and weren't developed fully enough to be used in a game. Hence why the BR was conjured to test the core systems like combat etc before said other systems are developed to a point where they are useable ...
Would be pretty stupid to have the A0 mmo map with no creatures, professions, nodes and caravans that fly into space when you hit them.
spiral torrent
@silent lantern you’re missing the point so hard. The idea is that they didn’t need to design a whole new game (BR). They could’ve just used assets form A0/PAX and just have death matches or whatever PvP system they wanted on those maps to test the exact same things they tested in the the BR. No one said anything about creatures, professions, nodes and caravans... and no it wouldn’t be stupid to have A0 map without those things... it’s just testing. They don’t need to make it into a fluffy, try-to-look good, stand-alone BR game. They could use an empty map that already existed to TEST stuff. It’s testing. We don’t need polish and creatures, professions, nodes and caravans. It’s testing. So the point still stands. APOC/BR was not needed. Maybe helpful, but not needed.
lean marlin
jesus. how many times do ya'll need to be told to use the discussion section?
gleaming iron
hmmm i wonder why
winter flame
Is there a stream today? If so what time?
dry flower
and usually announced 1 week prior
ruby swift
@icy idol https://aocreation.com/en#preorder
icy idol
now on my games i see only this and i cant upgrade the pack
@ruby swift i would buy this but my games dont have it
fading latch
@icy idol the monthly cosmetics will be available to purchase at a later date for all mygames account holders this includes backdated months
icy idol
ty all for the explanation
fading latch
So dont panic, youll get a chance to buy them :) just not right now
ruby swift
@icy idol Sorry for the bad link, read your question as purchase of a new package, not cosmetics.
icy idol
no problem man ^^
quartz coral
Can we dye pets and mounts ?
mild bear
..."the monthly cosmetics will be available to purchase at a later date for all mygames account holders this includes backdated months". So does that mean the cosmetics are not exclusive then and so there is no need to buy them NOW ?
👁️ !
dry flower
Seems so.
So long as your account is registered on my.com
They could check your registration date and only make available to you the ones you missed though
silent lantern
@mild bear The cosmetics are time exclusive - limited time offer. My.com is an exception because like always they have technical issues with something. 🙂
quartz coral
Yuckie
lean merlin
is this game full loot pvp?
quartz coral
Partial loot
robust valley
Alguma guild Brasileira pronta pro lançamento?
fading latch
grizzled citrus
Does the Luminous Star crawler fly around or walk on ground, the description seems like it flys
slow meadow
there is no flying in Ashes of Creation. The closest you get is the royal mounts which have a limited true flight time. At most it would be a gliding mount, which is likely.
desert ivy
He's talking about the pet that follows you
It
I think you'd need to ask @plucky pawn or someone to get a real answer. I'd assume it does fly while following you but I'm not 100%
slow meadow
oh lol, my bad on the assumption. But just like with the mounts and armor we have asked for more of that type of information to be provided when they put up the cosmetics but so far they have not done so. Etc. Gotta buy on assumption and faith.