What is all the ways to get access to the alpha/betas of AOC?
#questions
random moth
dark jungle
You can purchase alpha 2, beta 1 and beta 2 access from the store
random moth
Is there any other ways than to purchase access?
dark jungle
Not at present
random moth
Okay thank you 😄
visual niche
@fathom ocean @glass swallow Thanks guys. 😛 I take it that means only the Intrepid guys knows why it's called APOC? 😄
digital yacht
Cuz it’s the MMO APOCalyspe atm
visual niche
😛
torn jolt
Will we have as a guild a unique outfit or a mask etc that only our guild will be able to wear?
visual niche
@crystal beacon Not ignored! Most loved! ♥
cedar talon
no
winter flame
@torn jolt yes, it was stated that that will be a thing
azure birch
They said that we would be allowed to stream our game around 5th of October
cedar talon
We are allowed to stream once NDA is lifted. So far no official date for that.
azure birch
Yep so Steven said in the last stream that NDA will be lifted around this time
proven arrow
Likely the next A1 test, if everything goes well.
azure birch
well i just checked he exactly said "Around October 5th, around that time is when we will release the NDA for players to actually stream their gameplay sessions"
so i guess in few days NDA will be released
severe dagger
He didn't specify what year. 🍆
azure birch
vapid harbor
did we get any more info on the free for all registered users BR mode, and how long it will be? or is it still " until launch "
heady wing
its not 5th at PDT time yet XD
and if it gets lifted today will prob only be laater on the 5th on October on the PDT time
like prob around 4pm there time
XD
modest sierra
Battle royale mode will be available to all registered users sometime in october FOR A LIMITED TIME
then it's back to alpha testers, and after horde mode (around march) the all registered users get to test FOR A LIMITED TIME
heady wing
how long will the limited time be?
modest sierra
however long they say, could be a week, could be 2 weeks
trail nymph
Could be a weekend to just stress the servers to it's limits.
modest sierra
maybe 3 weeks if they want
heady wing
lets hope for a month XD
robust marsh
no NDA inc yay
silent lantern
Jesus people.. An announcement will come for whether or not the NDA is lifted for the next session and forward. The same goes for when the open BR will start and how long it will be. The announcement will come from Intrepid in #314513053486022676 or #news or a channel in this discord that is similar. If the info is not there then there is no info...
digital yacht
^
bleak vector
How often do the cosmetics change for the Pre-order packs?
minor pecan
Once every month. Next change is expected around the 17th.
bleak vector
Thanks. Deserts aren't my style.
azure birch
Do you guys know how the shield mechanics will work? It would be nice if it worked similar to mount and blade esspecially in sieges.
lethal pollen
there is active blocking and player collision
azure birch
what do you mean by player collision?
daring igloo
Basically you don't just walk through other players like they're not there
You bump into them
brisk isle
@azure birch People occupy space. They will collide with one another when moving and can't occupy the same spot.
lethal pollen
so you could theoretically block a doorway with your shield
ruby swift
Correct, however there will be mechanics to move people who decide to try and block access to banks and such.
empty fjord
ugh, same crap as in archeage, being shoved around when you leave the computer for a while
ruby swift
Yep, those bad people who like to park mounts on top of mailboxes and try to grief others by blocking npcs and such ruin all the regular afkers fun.
empty fjord
yeah, I hate that. but I also hate people going out of their way to fuck with me when I'm afk
ruby swift
lol...leave yourself in a corner...there is sure to be a testing phase of it. we will find out what works and doesnt and give feedback so they can adjust. Afk pushing people off cliffs I imagine is a no no.
I never played AA, but apparently there was this bridge blocking thing they want to avoid
empty fjord
I sincerely hope so.
yeah, bridge blocking for trade runs, in safe zones, could not get past them
ruby swift
Yeah, Steven specifically mentioned that isn't going to be a thing in Ashes. He played a lot of AA, so he would know.
empty fjord
good, Steven is a good man
half gale
Considering PVP is always on, do you really want to afk in public areas in this game?
weak niche
tidal stirrup
Have they said if death would lower durability on equipped gear?
half gale
Come to think of it, they said that combat flagged players have lower death penalties (presumably in comparison to non-flagged players)
So I'm guessing we can infer that any penalties they've described for non-corrupt combat-flagged players would apply to people who don't flag up/fight back?
tidal stirrup
Yeah except for getting gear stolen IIRC
Wait that's corrupt only, so not quite relevant
half gale
One thing I find interesting about their flagging system is that you only become corrupt if you KILL a player who didn't fight back at all
As in, if you run up and start attacking someone, and they start fighting back at any point, you're fine
You both just get flagged as combatants
Which makes it a really interesting choice as the person getting ganked: Do you fight back so you get reduced death penalties, or do you stay passive to inflict greater penalties on your ganker?
Ah, here are the death penalties: https://aocwiki.net/PvP#Death_Penalty
tidal stirrup
Yep, also if you attack someone fighting a mob and you ensure the mob gets the last hit, do you get away scott free?
half gale
Hah, or conversely: If you're trolling people by knocking them down 20% and stopping there, then someone else comes along and finishes them off, do you both get flagged as corrupt?
topaz ledge
Also, it seems weird because you are flagged only as a combatant entering pvp zones, or if you attack someone who is a non-combatant, but basically the whole world other than in cities are pvp zones, so when would you actually be able to attack a non-combatant other than in a city?
tidal stirrup
That's not what they mean by pvp zones, auto flagging is for things like approaching a caravan or other type of battle
spare umbra
@topaz ledge no the system works that there will be specik pvp areas, like caravans where you are flagged either defender or attacker. but the hole world ecept some safe zones you will be able to attack others kinda like passive pvp but not dirrect
topaz ledge
oh ok, i guess i misread the quotes in the wiki
boreal abyss
@topaz ledge Also, you can still be killed in cities by players. They will get hunter by Guards (and players alike if they are red) so its a risk they have to take, but you can still get killed in a City
@half gale Jupp, that is why not fighting back gives you greater death penalities, to encourage fighting for your life instead of just getting him flagged, as your own punishment for not fighting back is worse for you than if you fought back.
tidal stirrup
It's really worse for both sides if the target doesn't fight back
half gale
Does healing yourself or using damage-mitigation cooldowns count as "fighting back"?
Also, the stated goal of this system is to stop max level players ganking in newbie-zones, but I imagine most newbies won't know to "not fight back". Is there a point at which the level or gear disparity is so great that you'll be flagged as corrupt even if the newbie fights back?
tidal stirrup
I seem to remember the penalties get worse the bigger the level difference is
tough briar
Hello, I'm new. I just dropped money on the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack yesterday. Are there any additional steps I need to take reserve my name?
cedar talon
Nope, you will be notified when you can reserve your name
tough briar
Cool. Thank you.
hidden halo
@idle siren I just (re)watched the Studio Tour from June of 2017. It was nice seeing what your team was working on at the time...even with the blurred out super secret stuff. You should do another tour so we can see the growth and (perhaps) catch a glimpse of new stuff in work!
crystal beacon
is that a question?
ruby swift
@half gale No flagging for healing yourself. To become purple you have to "force flag" on the other person. That means you have to target them with a single player target ability. This stops people from running through your aoe as "friendly fire" in order to make you flag on them. If you heal someone who is flagged purple, you will become purple. https://i.gyazo.com/572925bc0d100acaf33de56557d73786.png
on your second question, if the lowbie fights back, then they have flagged purple, so no corruption for the higher level person. If they don't fight back and are killed green the penalty is increased in severity the larger the level gap.
torn jolt
Any word about nda?
digital yacht
Nda is still in effect this is most likely the last test with nda as per Stevens announcement
empty ginkgo
Any word on when we'll hear back about approval or denial for the Content creator applications. I feel like its been a good bit since we got the letter of our apps being reviewed.. Any updates or news on that?
half gale
@ruby swift Thank you for the information. I think complete newbies will find it unintuitive that the proper way to deter gankers will be to not defend themselves, but I suppose that won't be an issue if the power differences are big enough for them to get one-shot. Will be interesting to see how this system plays out.
trim isle
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reef prawn
Hey it,s probably been asked already, but I'm guessing the new packs in the store are probably gonna come out next week?
proven arrow
They seem to have been moved towards the middle of the month
The latest cosmetics have only been out for like 2 weeks
reef prawn
yeah, thanks Zeke ❤
proven arrow
All bravers should have received their invites to the stress test's for BR mode, if you've already gotten it, there is a test soon. If you haven't gotten it but are a 500$ backer or higher you need to message a mod.
empty juniper
ok ill double check. yeah i was an early bird
tidal stirrup
Message a mod here or go through regul as r support channels? I haven't gotten my email yet
*regular
autumn trellis
<@&257269635559194625> or @stable plover Hey just wanted to verify something. A Summoner is a pet/item/ ect... summoning class that fights along with the summoner or is it a transformation of the summoner (i.e bear claws).
junior ore
if a summoner is an item summoner can you drop said item on red pvp death ? 😛 
gray olive
<@&257269635559194625> Would you please release the thought process you used when coming up with the archetype and class names? (ie: Why Tank as an archetype when many see it as a role) There are differing opinions about certain names so far and I believe if everyone had IS thought process as a basis then the community would better be able to come to an agreement. Hopefully. 😑
robust marsh
Are we able to stream yet ?
vapid kindle
Not at this time. NDA is on for this next weekend
vapid kindle
It has been, regrettably, delayed. Waiting on final textures. Expected next week
digital yacht
he never said NDA WILL 100% DROP on the 5TH
robust marsh
I mean it was listed as such only normal to think that was going to happen
hollow spear
Has there been any update on the public Battle Royale phase?
vapid kindle
None at this time.
neat spindle
evening all. Any word on when Alpha Phase 2 starts. I've been very, very patient and im getting all kinds of itchy to play!
tulip hatch
alpha 1 phase 2 is estimated to Q2 of 2019
neat spindle
ugh my heart
tulip hatch
but im thinking youre talking about Alpha 2
which has no official ETA
estimated to be Q3
neat spindle
whichever relates to the Founder kickstarter side
tulip hatch
yeah thats Alpha 2 which is most likely Q3 for now until we get a future update
proven arrow
@autumn trellis summons will be pets you have to tame separately from the animal husbandry pets/mounts. You supposedly fight through your pet. And there are no shapeshift style summons as of yet.
The KS date was the latest date KS allows.
dark heart
Yes, that is explained here about the summoner https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner#Skills.2Fabilities
And info here about the Necromancer https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Necromancer
reef dagger
@half gale This is true, it will put the player to red, however if you die without fighting back you yourself will lose more materials upon death as well as more debuffs than if you did fight back. Notice under [67] A combatant (Purple player) who dies suffers these same penalties but at half the rate of a non-combatant.. so it actually benefits you to fight back before death
azure birch
Cool
Do you guys know if races will have active abilities in the game or does it just affect the stats
dark heart
@azure birch yes here is info on that https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Racial_abilities
azure birch
yes so here it only talks about stats what about the active skills like for instance elves having zooming eyes etc
dark heart
it says "racial abilities"
azure birch
yes, it does but doesnt give any clue about what those abilities might be like..it might be passive abilities such as stat growth etc
azure birch
I see, thanks
dark heart
they also talk about racial augments too https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Racial_augments
west turtle
like, its obvious a rogue elf would be more fit for the rogue class than a dwarf
etc
azure birch
sure that is to do with stats. elves having more agility etc
west turtle
yep it comes down to basestats
azure birch
This game promises such amazing things that it is almost impossible to believe :p
i love the fact that they want us to feel unique which is i think very important in MMOs
junior ore
but small dwarf can hide in a suitcase and sneak anywhere 😏
west turtle
never underestimate the dwarf lol
azure birch
i think dwarfs would go best with fighter+tank agumentation
west turtle
Yea most likely
but honestly though if hitboxes will be a serious part of the game, the smaller u can make ur rogue the better, example
same with fighter
any melee
azure birch
well if u were a goblin then yes :p
dwarfs cant move fast
come to think of it i see no reason for someone to choose dwarf race unless they really like them
ruby swift
This is more of a discussion than questions. These are not the droids you are looking for, move along.
azure birch
pff always good to discuss a little mr unknown
modest sierra
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ruby swift
Yep, and we have discussion channels for it. We try to keep this one clear to help out people who lack basic knowledge of the game. When I see this channel light up and I come here to hopefully help someone I don't want to have to scroll through a page and half of memes and "kek" bs.
azure birch
understandable.
visual niche
A legitimate, if not overly important, question that I have not seen an answer for; What does the "P" stand for in APOC? 🤔
upbeat yarrow
Hello, I was trying to follow the link to put my Discord ID to have the permissions for the Discord but the link says i don't have permission to see the link.... which is a little counter productive
ruby swift
Do you have permissions on the forums yet?
upbeat yarrow
Apparently not
ruby swift
If you don't have permissions to see the stress test portion, it won't work.
So wait for forum perms, then post your Discord]
upbeat yarrow
and how do i got those forum perms?
ruby swift
You wait for Belle to get to you on the list. When you clicked on the NDA your name was put on the list for processing. They got one overworked bot doing 10k people, might take a bit.
upbeat yarrow
Oki thank you 😃
junior ore
lol over worked bot ❤
ruby swift
@upbeat yarrow Just checked...there are 1300 people that have been processed for Discord perms. Currently there are 6 in Stress test VC and about 20 people commenting. So waaaay more have requested the service than are using it. Once you get your forum perms it should be a fairly quick turnaround on the Discord perms.
ruby swift
Yep, but most likely will be the last one
StevenToday at 2:20 AM
@here Glorious Testers, we will be testing the squad play tonight and limited times on Saturday and Sunday. You will receive an email with those times later today, as well as a discord notification. This should be the last test with the NDA, final textures will be coming in early next week on many assets. The squad mode does not include our friendlist and invite system yet, which should go in next week. So this weekends squad play testing will be auto filling teammates 👌🏻. Will post the time update later today
upbeat yarrow
@ruby swift There was a problem originally with my account because i upgraded to LoM as they were sending out invites pretty much, but it was "fixed" by working out with Belle but that part must've slipped. Thanks for the help though ^-^
ruby swift
Yep, I had a similar issue when I upgraded to LoM about two weeks before the first test. Belle got it sorted also. She will get to you. If she helped you earlier you can be assured that you are on the right list now.
lone nimbus
Thanks at @ruby swift I always seem to miss those messages
ruby swift
Lol...It is tough to know sometimes where the info is being put. But #apocalypse_test_news is always a good first bet.
fair yew
I got forum perms like two weeks ago but still don’t have discord perms. Should I message belle?
tulip hatch
Did you request discord perms in the forums
fair yew
Doing that now
ruby swift
Yeah, cause they Like your post when they give you perms...and all the posts are liked currently by a mod
unkempt isle
lol, also just had to do that
west turtle
One question will there be a monthly sub fee?
candid lava
Np
glacial swift
When will the Nda be over?
trim quest
radiant tendon
Can a freehold be owned by multiple players at a time? Or is it meant for 1 person only?
ruby swift
@glacial swift
StevenToday at 2:20 AM
@here Glorious Testers, we will be testing the squad play tonight and limited times on Saturday and Sunday. You will receive an email with those times later today, as well as a discord notification. This should be the last test with the NDA, final textures will be coming in early next week on many assets. The squad mode does not include our friendlist and invite system yet, which should go in next week. So this weekends squad play testing will be auto filling teammates 👌🏻. Will post the time update later today
glacial swift
Ok sounds great
ruby swift
@radiant tendon THey are owned by a single person. There has been talk of the marriage mechanic possibly allowing dual ownership. You will of course have access to various options to set your freehold private, public, friends list and so on. You could for example allow only people on your friends list the ability to move stuff around or other options.
Freeholds are account capped at one, so any mechanic that would negate that restriction won't be in place.
robust marsh
any idea when servers will be back
digital yacht
[pl;;;
radiant tendon
@ruby swift thx for the respons man 😄
willow kindle
why am i unauthorized to access service are they down ?
cedar talon
Yes
tepid wren
would one be able to make a good living in game living out in the wild hunting exotic creatures? 🤔
cedar talon
No one knows
tepid wren
the thought of living out in the wild with my pets hunting monsters and crafting good gear from their hides sounds so cool
silent lantern
@willow kindle Sprry, you just got banned that's why.
willow kindle
?
empty fjord
@willow kindle no the servers are down and the unauthorized message is the standard error message
so don't worry
willow kindle
ok thanks dude
willow kindle
does anyone know when servers will be up im bored as hell
mighty kernel
Intepid might
vapid kindle
At SoonPM, Intrepid Time™
(whenever they fix the framerate bug and get a new viable build.)
pearl saddle
When will the NDA be lifted?
winged sparrow
stable plover
@pearl saddle Theoretically next weekend
abstract jackal
so once alpha 2 comes out ill get the founder code for it?
pearl saddle
@stable plover Thanks, for some reason I thought it was yesterday xD
tulip hatch
When alpha 2 releases intrepid will provide the information on how we will get access
reef bronze
Hi guys, I just saw the The Art of War (Pre-Alpha Footage) on the ashes of creation youtube page. Is there going to be actual parkour features in the game like it was shown? Or was that just for a cinematic effect?
autumn trellis
@reef bronze Yes. It's called a utility skill.
Though they've stated that it wont be completely free-form (so not every tree you see).
There are alot of resources to answer your questions, one of them being one of the wikis. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/ it's quite comprehensive. Hope this helps and have a good day.
reef bronze
Thank you!
glossy phoenix
hey i was thinking how does the game work in regions with no active node (due to max activated nodes)? free holds and such
wanton thunder
hello guys, is true for every account in ashes of creation forum can join the BR ?
cedar talon
yes
wanton thunder
is there any guide how to ? or we must wait until NDA over first ?
cedar talon
How to what? Join it? Just wait for the announcement
wanton thunder
ok, thanks
ruby swift
@wanton thunder It wont be soon, keep checking back. Those with paid access are said to have a month in BR before they open it for a limited time to the rest of the accounts.
wanton thunder
i read about paid accounts but i didnt hear about the rest of forum users. thank you sir
stable plover
@glossy phoenix From memory, regions without active nodes won't be able to have freeholds (which need certificates from nodes), Some nodes locked at low levels will be areas for low level players / low level material gathering and some locked out nodes might still present a challenge to high level players based on the content of the high level node doing the locking
fierce leaf
@reef bronze in the last QnA they said that they unterestimated the work it takes to make everything climbable, so they have to rethink if they put parkour in the game.
digital yacht
pretty hard to say since that stuff is still a long ways away
u never know at this point
im sure some sort of parkour will be in game but not full blown like AC
or the likes
vapid kindle
Only that new testing on it will happen around March as part of Alpha 1 phase 1
Known as the "horde mode"
languid wave
Thank
half gale
Have they said anything about whether your secondary class choice will give the same utility skills as the primary? I'm a little concerned that if exactly one of each class is required in every dungeon run, it will overly complicate things like two friends wanting to run the same class together.
boreal abyss
@half gale What they have said so far is that only the Primary Class will give skills
Secondary Class will give Augments
Based on that, I will guess
No, your secondary class won't be giving any utility skills at all.
half gale
Hmm, alright thanks. Will be interesting to see how it playtests
Perhaps bringing one of each won't be mandatory? I can't imagine they're planning to be that restrictive that you have to have exactly one of each base class
No more no less
boreal abyss
@glossy phoenix A Zone without an active node might still be within the Zone of Influence of another Zone's node
As long as a Zone is within a Zone of Influence, you will be able to put up a Freehold in that Zone even if it does not have a Node itself.
@half gale From what I have seen and heard, my assumption is that while you don't need any of the utility skills, they open up other routes (and maybe secrets) but its not something that is required, just something that makes things a bit easier (ie the Priest's Cleanse utility that removes poisonous fog etc)
long socket
Is there going to be puzzle content in the game like jumping puzzles? I love exploring and jumping on everyone and everything :p
cedar talon
Yes
craggy zodiac
When is the release date of the game?
boreal abyss
Release Date is not set yet
craggy zodiac
ETA?
boreal abyss
Q4 2019
craggy zodiac
ty
boreal abyss
before 2020 is their aim
visual raven
I know back a year ago they said a hybrid-tab targeting kind of system but the last stream looked more like eso's targeting. In the end will AOC be more like ESO combat or WoW combat?
crystal beacon
wow
visual raven
So was the action-targeting system only for the arena mode
cedar talon
No, the game will have tab and action combat
boreal abyss
there is no tab targeting atm, the current system is action combat only
cedar talon
The player can dictate which side he wants to go towards
boreal abyss
tab targeting system will be implimented later on, right now its just action combat that is in the testing phase
inland nexus
It's going to allow you to customise which direction you lean towards. From full action combat to WoW style tab-targeting. Well that was what I read was the plan anyway
boreal abyss
Yes that seems to be the plan.
visual raven
Ah ok thank you
small socket
Hello I recently found out about this game and I'm quite hyped despite not even being into MMOs much. Just asking about the Caravan raiding system as it sounds quite intriguing. I wonder how mass attacking and outnumbering a Caravan will be addressed? For example can 10 people attack a poor 2 men Carvan and stump them easily to take all the loot? Is there some mechanic to stop heavy outnumbering? IS there a place I can find out more about this?
boreal abyss
Yes, even 100 ppl can attack a caravan of 1 man.
There is no mechanics in place for stopping that as it is not their intent.
small socket
Will there be low rewards for them tho and high risk if they do that?
boreal abyss
You have some NPC guards with a Caravan, but if you want to protect a caravan, you are better off hiring a Mercenary Guild or someone to guard it.
Rewards will not be lowered, you are taking the risk by not providing many Player Guards for the caravan 😛
stable plover
@small socket You might like https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Caravans or https://www.aocwiki.net/Economy#Caravans
small socket
Also can you be attacked by several people who are not allied to each other?
boreal abyss
You can be.
Caravans carry a risk.
It is up to you how much you are willing to spend to protect said caravan 😛
If you are asking in relation to caravans, if they chose to be "attackers" they are kinda allied there and then as far as I have understood it.
small socket
Interesting indeed. I guess it's good to then diversify your Carvans rather than all in. This way you can avoid getting a massive gang on you
boreal abyss
When you enter a Caravans moving PvP Zone, you get the choice of
- Protect it
- Attack it
- Ignore it
after choosing one, you cannot do anything about it, so if you chose to ignore it, you cannot attack it
If you chose to defend it, everyone who is an attacker will be able to attack you without reprecussions
small socket
oh so attackers are allied? are you sure? hmm then when killing Carvan the reward will be shared with everyone?
boreal abyss
tbh I dont know if you will have the choice to ignore it 
"When a player approaches a moving caravan, they will be prompted to decide if they wish to attack, assist or ignore. "
I remembered correct
I am assuming so based on the fact that you have to chose between two sides
And after a successful caravan raid, the caravan drops "tickets" you can redeem in the origin town for the materials it was transporting
small socket
Interesting, why would choose assist tho if you yourself don't have anything in the Caravan? would get some sorta rewards for it?
boreal abyss
so after the caravan raid is complete... nothing is stopping them from killing eachother
small socket
Oh one question? can you only attack other Nodes Caravans or can it be yours too?
boreal abyss
Not by default no
But as I said, hired Mercenaries for instance for protection would want to Protect the Caravan
I have heard nothing stopping you from attacking caravans coming from your home node
So most likely you can
small socket
hmm that sounds politicly interesting then hahaha. I can just imagine pirate scum attacking their own nodes caravan for treasure and Government police having to deal with them!
boreal abyss
That raises another question
Can a Mayor of a town actually label ppl criminals?
Would be interesting but prob not 🤷
small socket
I reckon their reputation would not be well received within the node as raiding Caravans does not only damage other players assets but the nodes too. However I don't think it was directly stated for mayor to have the ability to deal with them.
boreal abyss
Indeed you are correct, and in this game, player reputation will matter from how it looks xD
goes back to making pancakes
small socket
I can imagine pirates and raiders are gonna cause a lot of diplomacy and conspiracy issues between nodes. Imagine as a mayor making a trade deal with other nodes. and then secretly hiring pirates and leak other nodes Carvan information to the pirates then once their raid is done sharing profit and blaming it on the pirate. That's some Palpatine level deception and political conflict potential. It will be hella interesting to see. I'm glad politics, deception and diplomacy are a part of the game. They got good demand just not many games that have them.
craggy zodiac
When is the battle royal and who will have access to it?
boreal abyss
Everyone registered will have access sometime this month if I remember correctly
craggy zodiac
I assume we will be notified by email or here on discord right?
craggy zodiac
Thanks!
quartz coral
Do we know anything at all about character creation customization options from the backer packs?? or the in-game Chat Emoji packs ??
craggy zodiac
Oh yes i wanna know about the emotes as well!
for RP i mean, like bow, kneel, point and etc...
slate snow
Hi, are there any estimations on how much space aoc will take?
digital yacht
More then 1gb under 100gb
craggy zodiac
LOL
digital yacht
Take into effect the testing atm is 10gb~ with a map size of roughly 2.5x2.5km, Steven wants 120x120km map size so x that by 60 and u have 600gb good luck
Lol jk but it’ll prob be in the 40ish-80ish range
Honestly I’d compare it to ESOs size which was around 82gb
small socket
@boreal abyss Now that I thought about, I believe Steven said once a Caravan is killed, they will drop a certificate which gives you access to a portion of the Caravan's goods you can redeem at the origin node. I still think some mechanic is in placed tho to stop attackers Zerging. I mean I don't different attackers will just automatically be allies as I think that would heavily disadvantage any defender. I mean anyone entering the zone would choose "Attack" for potential gains. I mean what is to gain from pressing "Defend" unless the Carvan owners are paying you directly, I don't see anyone walking to the area and pressing Defend.
Also will there be a system to distribute the salvage between the attackers? Will everyone try to last hit or will their be a system to reward players based on their performance during the raid. e.g guy hiding in the back will get same amount as the guy who risked and put everything to takeout the Caravan even tho they were not part of the same guild/alliance?
digital yacht
@craggy zodiac don’t let him get ur hopes up the open testing should begin roughly 1 month after the backers have tested it, hate to say it but I don’t think the open testing will be in October it’ll be more closer to the 2nd week of nov the time slot Steven gave was 1 month after we(a1 backers) have tested it(also like to note we haven’t started the official testing(once nda drops the “real” testing will start(so once u see nda lifted guess about a month from that time))
digital yacht
Yea waiting is the game atm
reef bronze
Oh okay thank you @fierce leaf !
proven arrow
@small socket a similar thing happens when you hit defend actually. Basically if the defenders win they get the tickets, if the attackers win they get the tickets, you can't attack your own alliance's caravans so the option is there to defend your allies or go out to an enemy node and attack their's. As for participation we've been told there's a cap on attackers and defenders
mild bear
@small socket Your nodes survives through its supply lines. Cut the lines you kill the node. And the mayor can designate individuals as enemies of the state.
topaz ledge
Anyone know if there will be varying weather?
boreal abyss
There will be varying weather
They have even mentioned that there might be things like an Ice Dragon that invades a zone, and until it is killed, that zone will forever be winter as an example of what they might do
severe dagger
That's heckin cool.
wispy moat
Has the NDA been lifted yet?
severe dagger
no
languid wave
Well ash of creation stop high lvl node from attacking low lvl nodes or is it just going to be big gest eats smallest?
Because higher lvl guilds or organization normal attack the smaller in steed of the ones that are on there lvl?
boreal abyss
They won't stop that no.
Anyone can declare a Siege against any node.
However, it will require a lot of work to be able to declare a Siege, so if a large Guild wants to do that against a small Node, that is their effort to put in
languid wave
Ok but what if lvl 6 node attacks a lvl 3 node well it take les for the 6 to attack the 3
Because the 6 has more
boreal abyss
It will most likely take less than if it was to siege a Stage 5 Node
but it wont take less effort because its a bigger node as far as I've understood
it will take the same amount of effort to be able to siege no matter if you work as an entire Guild or 1 man.
Ofcourse it will go faster since the labor is divided amongst every guild member, but in total it will require the same.
languid wave
ok so if it's a lvl 1 or 6 it will take the Same thanks for your help
boreal abyss
Lets say if Guild A wants to Siege Node 1 (Stage 1), that will require less effort than if they wanted to Siege Node 6(Stage 6)
Because a bigger node has more defences, hence it will require more preparation time and effort to begin a Siege
blissful pagoda
a follow up question to that, with that being said their will be obvious different tier rewards for taking out a stage 6 than a stage 1? So there is incentive to try to beat the biggest nodes vs the smaller nodes?
boreal abyss
can't say I have ever heard reward come up in correlation to sieges before so that I do not know
modest sierra
you get the node for yourself c:
(though it does drop a couple levels i believe was said?)
tepid wren
how many pets can we expect a beastmaster to be using at once?
digital yacht
as many as u want
tepid wren
so for example i could have 3 pets fighting along side me at once?
boreal abyss
Most likely 1 from what I know
digital yacht
@tepid wren i msure it works in the same aspect as a summoner, u can have 1 super strong one 2 decent strong ones or 3 weaker ones the more u have the weaker they get
tepid wren
that would make sense
digital yacht
we dont know a cap on summons foir summoners tho so we dont know the exact number]\
cedar mauve
Can a corrupt player be healed by another player, if so would the healer become corrupt?
tulip hatch
They wont become corrupt but they will become flagged for combat
cedar mauve
@tulip hatch thanks for that, was just thinking of the potential for bounty hunters to be lured into a trap. Presumably a corrupt player couldn't join a party
ruby swift
It has been said that the system will treat corrupted players as "monsters" That may mean no grouping, healing and other stuff. There has been no confirmation on healing corrupted players, just that healing a flagged "purple" player will also flag you purple. Basically if you "force flag" on someone which means using a single target ability on them, you will acquire their upgraded flagging state. Whether that means in the case of corrupted individuals you all gain some corruption, or are unable to heal them, or if you gain corruption by healing a purple that kills a green moments later and you are included in the kill credit for corruption has not been clarified.
tepid wren
do all mounts and pets have a lifespan or is that exclusive to the royal mount?
cedar talon
For mounts exclusive to royal, pets no info
dim moat
will there be tanks with the same type of class abilities as WoW?
vapid kindle
Everything we have on tanks https://www.aocwiki.net/Tank
Skills that we currently know are near the top of the page
dim moat
thank you
this will also be a PvE/PvP game, not a main PvP or main PvE
I know you probably hate to compare it to other games, but "like WoW" and less like GW2 which is focused on world pvp vs PvE at endgame
im asking this in the wrong channel cause i cant read apparently
sorry
dusty acorn
So Braver+ gets an invite key to Alpha 1 onwards, How do we get these? With Alpha 1 around the corner just wondering if anyones heard anything about them.
thin dirge
Alpha 1 kinda started already
fallow adder
You should have gotten an email with Alpha 1 stress test information.
boreal abyss
@tepid wren only dropped flying mounts will have a time limit of use
ruby swift
If you live in CIS, outing yourself in a game is probably not the best idea anyways. If you don't live in CIS, then not an issue and you're just trying to stir up shit.
If you're gay in CIS, you have much bigger problems than whether Ashes will let you marry. Good luck.
dusty acorn
No it says we can invite a guest to alpha 1. Not my invite personally
unless im reading this google doc incorrectly
mild bear
@dusty acorn There is nothing in kickstarter braver of worlds about inviting a friend ....https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1791529601/ashes-of-creation-new-mmorpg-by-intrepid-studios?ref=nav_search
tepid wren
@boreal abyss ty
topaz ledge
Will different mounts and pets have different stats? They said you will be able to get a pet early, will a jaguar be more powerful than a chicken? I'm asking because if you buy a pack, you can get the lizard skin, and it could be confusing if you place that skin on varying creatures that might be different.
half gale
That's covered in a fairly recent message in #intrepid_answers :
... mounts are earned in game through breeding or through taming. The way that players will likely earn their first mount is though taming. In the starting areas you will be able to tame a certain type of animal as your mount. When you do this, you can replace the animal you normally would have gotten with your Kickstarter mount.
What I'm getting from this is that regardless of the actual animal you're breeding as a mount, you can reskin it to make it look like a lizard if you have the lizard skin unlocked
boreal abyss
Different stats: Yes
Depends on what Jaguar and what Chicken
You can only place skins on mounts that fit the category of that skin.
For instance you will not be able to give a horse a skin like this (as they are complete different type of mounts)
However, how much/detailed they have divided mounts (and pets) by types, for skins, is unknown at this point.
craggy zodiac
Hey!
I have a questino, how is the inflation rate gonna get "controlled" i guess
Last this i want is an overpriced items when buying armors or weapons
empty fjord
@craggy zodiac https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Economy give this a good read, it's the collected information we've been given about the in game economics.
empty fjord
no inconvenience at all. 😃
vital flume
Will Ashes have fishing?
spice ember
@vital flume YEP!
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Fishing
craggy zodiac
Yes i think so
boreal abyss
No AFK fishing tho
spice ember
@boreal abyss yes, that is a good thing imo
vital flume
Thanks, just wondered! I've always enjoyed fishing in games. ^^
craggy zodiac
I assume there is gonna be a mechanic just like Stardew Valley just to stop people from afk fishing? lol
digital yacht
I’m sure u have to catch the fish manually so when u get a bite hit a sequence of key strokes to reel it in
ionic eagle
Are we supposed to have our Forum badges for the KS yet?
glossy phoenix
If someone not corrupted kills a bounty hunter what will his status be? Asuming he is flagged purple
vapid kindle
Purple
boreal abyss
purple
vapid kindle
Pretty much to get corrupted you have to kill a green
errant pasture
Will it be possible to buy game time with in game currency in a similar fashion to wow tokens?
boreal abyss
@errant pasture
No
errant pasture
thanks
slate geyser
Will the Guilds have one leveling system where you just level it up and get an ability or 2 or will you be able to have tabs where your guild can spend points in "combat skills", Mount Exp rates, Ship upgrading, Crafting Skills, Crafting "bonus's to upgrading.
boreal abyss
Guilds will level up.
They will get points they can allocate to Guild specific "Skills"
We do not know what sort of "Skills" there will be.
One we know of is that you will have to spend those points to increase the Max Members of a Guild.
Meaning that larger guilds will have less points to spend on other things as they need to use those points to increase their Guild Member Capacity.
@slate geyser
topaz ledge
Will there be any npc humans/dwarfs/... in dungeons that we can get weapons from and use those weapons to get the blueprints, or will we just have to wait for a quest for a specific blueprint or purchase one?
boreal abyss
We do not know as almost nothing related to dungeons has been released.
We know little about how to obtain blueprints for crafting items as well
what we do know is that we can "Break down" gear that drops for a chance to learn how to make it
(This even count for Legendary items, althought you will learn the degraded version of it, aka Highest Tier that is not Legendary)
@topaz ledge
topaz ledge
oh thanks, i didn't know there would be a chance factor in not being able to learn how to make it. Kind of cool
boreal abyss
I think the chance factor only applies for Legendary Items
I can't remember 100% sadly @topaz ledge
topaz ledge
Thanks anyway! @boreal abyss
glossy phoenix
Will there be players clacified as police by the mayor? Reciving pay for protecting bystanders and caravans from pirates and such?
boreal abyss
@glossy phoenix
No
You can most likely hire players playing Mercenaries tho
that is about the closest you get, but there is no "police" system in place
(Except for Bounty Hunter system, that is about the closest you get)
glossy phoenix
Might be interesting to start such guild
indigo vine
digital yacht
I mean their are ppl who can play as bounty hunters if someone puts s bounty whether it be a merchant or a mayor so yes and no
stark pike
Any info on the open battle grounds lanch?
I wanna dig my teeth into that shit already
crystal beacon
@tulip hatch Hi Alluring, I was just curious as to when my Pax Alpha pack benefits begin. I thought it was an alpha key? Thank you!
digital yacht
How much did u spend?
crystal beacon
225
small socket
Question? Will you gain corruption if you kill Combatants that are much lower level than you? Also is there a max level?
boreal abyss
If they are purple, no.
Only from killing Green ones.
Combatant state is purple.
Max level will be 50 @small socket
small socket
I see, thanks.
topaz ledge
They said that levels won't matter too much though
small socket
?
boreal abyss
But yes, corruption scales with level difference if you kill green people
The lower level they are, the more corruption you get for a green kill
small socket
Like in PvP for example can I beat some level 40 as level 30?
boreal abyss
lower level as compared to your level
small socket
oh I see. So ganking really levels wont be good. Makes sense and seems fair
boreal abyss
You: Lv 25
Kill lvl 30 Green = normal corruption gain
Kill lvl 25 green = normal corruption gain
Kill lv 24 green = increased corruption gain
Kill lv 15 green = mcuh higher increase in corruption gain
proven arrow
Gear will matter though, so it may take a long time to bring down someone geared, assuming they can't hit the broad side of a barn
topaz ledge
You won't get any huge new skills at higher levels, and you will most likely just have better stats (possibly) and better weapons because you were in the game longer
proven arrow
Um
boreal abyss
and higher level skills since you would have more skillpoints to spend on upgrading skills
proven arrow
That's not true
boreal abyss
Skill tree, you have to unlock the different skills, meaning higher level skills becomes available at later levels
small socket
Oh that sounds cool. I like to have most ofmy skills early so I can learn and practise them rather than having to re-arrange my kit as max level.
proven arrow
They've stated multiple times you would have high level spells low levels wouldn't have access to
small socket
Oh also quick question? Can I level up in PvP as well?
proven arrow
Don't listen to xico he seems to be misremembering
small socket
Sick!
topaz ledge
Yeah, sorry about that
small socket
Also a question? Do I gain anything if you kill other combatants as a combatant. e.g XP or maybe loot?
boreal abyss
Loot
When you die you drop your gatherables
if you get killed by another player, that player can loot those gatherables from your corpse
You dont drop all gatherables, but I don't remember if we know the specific %
small socket
I see. Sounds cool. What about XP?
boreal abyss
If you die as green, you lose more gatherables than if you died as purple
I do not know for sure
topaz ledge
And if you die as red, you have a chance to drop weapons and armor as well
boreal abyss
The higher your corruption, the higher the dropchance on your gear
small socket
Oh sorry final question. Can you group up as well with guild or friends and then fight in open World PvP?
Or will they be hostile to you if they become combatants themselves?
boreal abyss
Bir şey değil ^^
Yes you can
You cannot damage people in your party/guild from what I know
small socket
Oh cool. Even better reason to group up with friends when leveling
topaz ledge
indeed
sly oak
When nda drop?
boreal abyss
Sometime this month is all we know
sly oak
K thx
agile rain
is there any release date yet?
boreal abyss
sometime before 2020
agile rain
magic fox
agile rain
really 2020?
boreal abyss
aye
boreal abyss
the aimed release date is before 2020
craggy zodiac
Is there a way to advertise inside the game? Like guild advertisements or a shop advertisement?
boreal abyss
Posting somehting in a Tavern is all I can think of, if that was possible
I seem to think we heard players could do so, not 100% sure tho
Besides that... You'll have to publicize for it yourself
craggy zodiac
Thank you
Oh ye one more thing
Can you hire other players for a shop or forgery?
Wait is it forgery? lol
boreal abyss
You can hire NPC's for running your shop for when you are not there.
Forge/Smith?
craggy zodiac
Yes smith
topaz ledge
If the players are willing to work under you, anything is game
boreal abyss
You can hire a smith to smith something for you, but that you have to talk with that player about
I dont know about any systems for sharing shop authority however
craggy zodiac
Let’s say I game a player some ingredients for a potion
Gave*
And he just runs off
boreal abyss
You can, and he can, no systems in place to prevent that
boreal abyss
Not as far as I know
topaz ledge
Not unless the contract goes: If you don't make these for me as we agreed, I will probably shoot you in the back of the head.
craggy zodiac
😂
tidal stirrup
Pretty sure there will be a UI for putting items in and having them immediately craft or enchant with them
boreal abyss
Player reputation will matter in a game like this tho, so might not be the wisest idea to scam ppl however
dark heart
yes there is UI in player stalls https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_stalls
boreal abyss
They did mention a thing like that in regards to repairing items.
So its a possibility, but I cannot remember having heard about that kind of system being in place for stores
ie: Store sells Healing potion for instance
1 price for potion
1 less price for potion if you provide the materials needed
but I do remember something like that being mentioned, if its going to be in the game or not I don't remember however
craggy zodiac
Is there another way for people to group other than a guild?
Long term groups
Not parties
boreal abyss
Friends
and kind of "Social Organizations"
but would require you to interact and get to know other players still
craggy zodiac
How many guilds can one person join?
boreal abyss
1 per character
craggy zodiac
Ok
boreal abyss
No Multiguild system in Ashes
Ah seems I was wrong
they are planning to have an escrow system to prevent crafting scams
boreal abyss
My bad
craggy zodiac
That’s puts me at ease then
How is the chatting system work? Will it be decided into categories like General, guild, party, etc... ? ( might be a bit early to ask )
digital yacht
To early but maybe so A0 ppl can give u some answers
Cuz in current build no chat system is in place
cedar talon
We know there will be different chat channels for voice and text
tepid wren
anyone know when the next AoC stream is?
cedar talon
Nope
digital yacht
Roughly a month
gusty torrent
heey guys. if i buy the basic wayfarer pre-order pack, am i then able to buy skins, mounts, buildings ect. directly from the webshop - like pick the once i want and buy them each month?. and am i able to upgrade the pack late on?
boreal abyss
yes, but you will only get the skins that are additions to the upgraded pack(s) later on, and not the skins in the package you have now or lower
gusty torrent
cool - thanks 😄 so if i buy the basic pack now - i could buy the mount - and next mount upgrade and get the mount ect from that pack ?
month*
boreal abyss
gimme 1 sec
gusty torrent
cool
boreal abyss
Say you buy the Expeditionary pack now,
you will be able to separately buy the skins in that pack and lower in the months to come
and when you then upgrade to say Voyager pack later, you will only get the skins that were in the Voyager pack
(lets take this month as an example, you will not get "Khyber’s Jewel " or "Dunewing Falcon Pet" and will only get the Scalerunner Mount)
of the skins
gusty torrent
ok i get it
boreal abyss
you will have to buy those separate 😃
gusty torrent
so i have to have a pack with the mount before i can buy others ?
boreal abyss
Unless a mount skin appears in a lower pack (which I dont think has happened but just saying it as an example)
so basically, yes
boreal abyss
Not the easiest thing to wrap one's head around 😛
no problem
gusty torrent
haha i think y got me xD thanks again 😉
unreal basin
Question, I know some classes that have summoner as a primary class or a subclass can summon to some extent, but are there items that can summon as a skill attached to that weapon? Can we use Simmons as mounts?
dark heart
@unreal basin I dont know answer about weapon summon, but mounts are special kind of item that summon the mount https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mounts#Summoning_mounts
earnest hollow
What's the soonest I can get access to the game now?
earnest hollow
Thanks shadow
modest sierra
you dont have to pay anything, as long as you've signed up on their website, you'll be able to play in a bout a month
@earnest hollow
earnest hollow
Thanks. I already signed up so I'll just wait a month
reef dagger
Let’s clarify that those purchases are to test, so “play” is on a limited scope currently, the more MMO style of play won’t begin to show until Q2ish next year
robust marsh
NDA over yet ?
dark jungle
Not yet @robust marsh
robust marsh
Bloody hell eta when?
dark jungle
I will resist saying soonTM 😉
digital yacht
Hopefully sometime this week or next
dark jungle
^
visual raven
Will the event next month likely be limited time or a (semi/close to) permanent game type (for alpha at least)
I know we have almost no real info on it but I wanted to see what may or may not be known
agile rain
vapid kindle
@visual raven It is expected to continue for quite some time. Here is the last we heard I believe
long kernel
New to following AoC -- super interested in the future of the game. Beta 1 is scheduled around 2019, is that right? Can someone answer how close to their deadlines Intrepid normally is?
Like, it's scheduled for 2019, but will it be later than that? Like how have they honored deadlines?
vapid kindle
@long kernel When dealing with game development, it is always best to plan ahead and expect delays. Typically they have met major deadlines, but there are no guarantees here.
Also, it is a year out. An accurate prediction is very difficult to make. They currently intend to release before 2020 as of the last we heard.
long kernel
Gotcha. Thanks for the honest answer. 😃 @vapid kindle
crystal beacon
Will steven ever considering making ashes a part of a gaming stream service?
since the game is so demanding, that would be a great idea.
thin dirge
is there going to be a point during the alphas where people who have not bought in get to play?
ruby swift
Yes, they plan to let everyone that has an account whether they have purchased a package or not test the BR for a limited time about a month after A1P1 starts. They may grant access to the siege and horde portions later too, though that has not been confirmed. What you won't see is access to those that haven't paid for testing to the actual mmo portion of the game.
thin dirge
ahh ok thanks unknown. always helpful 😃
pseudo kraken
Is there a system of labor within the game that is similar to archeage?
ruby swift
Nope, no labor systems planned or will be implemented. I can go find you the quote if you want. But basically it says, "None of that stupid shit" paraphrasing.
pseudo kraken
Okay, cool - so the only thing that prevents an individual from crafting say, 10,000 chest pieces in a day, is raw materials?
ruby swift
Correct, but they have also said that they dont want that type of mass production of say craft 1000 iron swords to level your artisan to be a thing either.
pseudo kraken
Well I imagine that that could be offset by giving diminishing returns to low level items
Level 1 item -> 100% levels 1-3 -> 66% 4-6 -> 33% 7-9
Level 2 item -> 100% levels 1-6 -> 66% 7-9
level 3 item -> 100% levels 1-9
etc
or just preventing XP completing outside a certain range
ruby swift
That is more a discussion than a question. We can theorycraft/wishlist in the other channels.
ruby swift
Anytime, lots of helpful people around. Good luck.
pseudo kraken
Is there any word on seed vendors? If I own a farm, and I want to plant 100 x tomato plants - can I buy those plants from a vendor? Or do I have to either A) go and find them out in the wild and harvest them or B) buy them from the market off someone who already has?
vapid kindle
To the best of my knowledge, they haven't gone far enough in depth on the farming profession yet to be able to answer that. Going strictly by my feeling on their philosophy for player interdependency, I'd say these would be gatherable items bought from other players or gathered yourself.
pseudo kraken
Is there any penalty associated with being the initiator in an open world pvp battle? For example, my current understanding is that Player A can strike Player B, flagging themselves for pvp, but when Player B returns fire, they too become flagged for PVP. Player A can then kill Player B without consequences, as they were flagged for pvp when they died, and subsequently suffer no corruption.
My understanding is that only if player B does not retaliate to player A, will player A suffer consequences
west turtle
Thats correct, player A will suffer corruption if player B does not attack in return
unless player B is corrupted ofcourse
actually im not 100% sure, maybe you need bounty hunter contract to not get corrupted by killing corrupted players lol
vapid kindle
No corruption for killing corrupted players at any time.
As they always "have it coming."
In fact, according to the rules as I understand them. A green will STILL be green after attacking a corrupted player
pseudo kraken
Yes.
vapid kindle
This image explains it well https://aocwiki.net/images/thumb/f/fb/Corruption_system.png/640px-Corruption_system.png
pseudo kraken
The loophole I see is this, and I'm curious if @idle siren has addressed this or not: If people stand to lose something by dying in PVP, lets say a percentage of their resources (for arguments sake lets say 5%) - which they just acquired while gathering, and now they are returning to their home and walking through a pvp area and get initiated upon by a non-corrupted player, they can either:
A) Do nothing. Die. Lose 5% of their resources and punish their offender by increasing that players corruption.
B) Return fire. Defend themselves. Still Die. Lose 5% of their resources, but forgo the associated punishment to the offending player.
C) Return fire. Defend themselves. Live. Kill the offending player.
vapid kindle
If you fight back and lose, you will still benefit as your death penalty will be lower.
pseudo kraken
The issue that I believe exists is that the offending player faces 0 consequence for attempting to gank someone, and faces consequence only if that person decides not to retaliate (in which case they can choose not to kill them). I appreciate that you want to encourage PVP and you don't want to discourage people from fighting with each other, however, the absence of any consequence for the aggressor in these circumstances leads me to believe corruption serves as a mechanism to prevent repeated ganking of lowbies, rather than detering individuals from going on "it was self defence!" murder spree's
I remember in Archeage, walking up to low level people in the opposing continent, standing right in front of them and waiting for them to click me, as soon as they clicked, they would auto attack automatically - and i would then be allowed to defend myself and murder them in their safezone. I fear it will be a similar sort of exploit / loophole
vapid kindle
The offending player flags upon initiating an attack as a purple, and is now able to be killed in turn by any other players around without them acquiring corruption. In addition to their target returning fire and killing them.
Also, Ashes has no auto attacks
pseudo kraken
But if their target returns fire they too turn purple, don't they?
which means no corruption for the attacker
vapid kindle
Let us shift over to #aoc-discussion
pseudo kraken
Sure
slender shuttle
im in no way interested in pvp very much.. never have been really.. are there pve servers whereby you are not marked for pvp unless flagged or enter into certain zones?
ruby swift
Ashes is a PVX game, there are no separate PVE/PVP/RP servers. Everyone exists in a base unflagged state. If you initiate combat on someone you start the flagging mechanic. There are pvp areas, but you are always given the option to leave them if you dont want to participate. However, there are anti-ganking mechanics in place for open world, but nowhere is truly safe but inside your house.
boreal abyss
Or when you are manning a Stall/Store in a city ^
@pseudo kraken
If you do nothing you lose a higher % of materials than if you fought back (Dying as Green/Non-combatant carries a higher death penalty than dying as Purple/Combatant)
You also lose less resources if you fight back, and you get less XP-debt if you die as Purple compared to Green.
There are however not 0 consequences.
If you attempt to gank someone and they dont fight back you become corrupt, dying as corrupt gives you way higher death penalties, as well as lower your PvP effectiveness.
If they fight back you will still be purple and open for anyone else to attack without any consequences, so you're open prey.
So you have to remember you are painting a big target on your back for similar people to yourself who goes around killing people.
And yes, the system was made to prevent ganking lowbies, it is not meant to stop people from killing eachother.
"It was self defence" is fine, I don't see the issue. You can always kill purple people anyways so.
subtle prawn
how do you sign up for the next month event? this topic was brought up a few hours ago. I created my account and filled my information.
Thanks for replying👌
untold willow
By event do you mean the Alpha Testing?
If that's what you mean you can no longer sign up for those. You had to either do the Kickstarter, or buy one of the Braver of Worlds packs or above. (There were a few others with different names, but were essentially the same thing) The only other way was to win a key.
subtle prawn
oh ok ty
untold willow
You'll have to wait and see if they do a new program. Which definitely wont be till either persistent alpha or closed beta
Keep an eye on the store on the Website
frank isle
They will open up testing for all registered accounts for small periods of time when the full alpha backers are done testing each part (BR,seiges,monsters etc)
untold willow
That's awesome news!
turbid jewel
Has there been any mentions of underwater mechanics?
boreal abyss
They have mentioned there will be underwater content and mounts, cant give a more specific answer than that
pseudo kraken
Hey @boreal abyss Thanks for the response. Thanks for confirming what was my understanding. The problem that I can see with this is it creates a negative feedback loop for the person who is being attacked, as the onus on them is now to defend themselves rather than losing more of their resources over and over again. To say that a consequence of flagging up on a person is now that you as the flagger can be killed with impunity is a rather mute point. The person who is flagging has openly consented to the pvp - the fact that they may die has already been considered in their decision to flag up.
I have no problem with the ganking of lowbies, or the ganking or farmers or gathers, I have a problem that just for defending yourself you consent to giving up ALL corruption ramifications to the individual who has something to gain and nothing to lose.
boreal abyss
@pseudo kraken It's not meant to be a game for everyone (as the devs have said)
All I can say is that they have designed the systems with this in mind and that is what they want.
I am not a PvP person myself either, I have never been.
But I personaly love how everything comes with a risk
However saying that he has nothing to lose is wrong, if he dies he gets the death penalties and as well drops some of the materials on him.
That is a risk he is willing to take for the chance of the rewards he can get from killing another person.
pseudo kraken
I'm not saying it has to be a game for everyone, its just a negative feedback loop is an intrinsically detrimental thing to any community - it will force people to leave, because there is no tangible "loss" to the aggressor, while the victim had a tangible "loss"
Well no that's only if hes corrupted
this is working on the assumption that a person is going to let themselves get to corrupted
boreal abyss
No, anyone who is killed will drop materials on death
pseudo kraken
because anyone worth their salt in pvp
boreal abyss
Corrupt ppl may drop their gear
pseudo kraken
okay but someone hunting people isnt going to be carrying materials is he?
gatherers are
cedar talon
There is a loss to the aggressor, he will become corrupted. And will be hunted server wide
boreal abyss
he will if he is hunting more than 1
cedar talon
And from there on he will be able to lose his own stuff
boreal abyss
he will have mats on him from all ppl he has killed, unless he goes and returns it to base every time
and then he has to watch out for other ppl cause of popluated area
pseudo kraken
but no, he wont become a corrupted player @cedar talon because we're talking about the concept of people fighting back
cedar talon
So consensual pvp, where is the murderbox in that?
boreal abyss
So if he wants to play it safe and kill 1 person and then deliver the materials to a safe space, that is his waste of time to play it safe
cedar talon
If you want to discuss this even more than already done, #aoc-discussion
boreal abyss
All I can say is, if the risk of gathering materials doesn't sound worth it to you, this might not be the game for you sadly
The systems are designed with these things in mind so
pseudo kraken
you need to understand its not about me personally, its about game design at its core, negative feedback loops LOSE players - look at league of legends as an example, they removed denying from the game because it created a negative experience. i dont want a hand holding carebear MMO game where we all farm strawberries. i want a game where people are accountable for their accounts, and i dont think its fair that i have the right to flag up on some random guy collecting fruit in a forrest, have him try to defend himself because he doesnt want to lose DOUBLE what he would lose otherwise if he didn't defend himself, then die, then I literally just continue onward, ganking without consequence, I should face, even if small - SOME consequence with regard to corruption
boreal abyss
You can't force flag others
cedar talon
#aoc-discussion at this point
azure birch
do you guys know when the NDA will be lifted. They said sometime this week but still..
boreal abyss
Sometime this month
turbid jewel
I know only rulers and such will have flying mounts, but does that include gliding mounts? Like is gliding mounts a thing?
boreal abyss
Yes they are a thing
and everyone can get "floating/gliding" mounts
they are only a max distance from the ground so they cannot fly
@turbid jewel
turbid jewel
Ahhh ok ty ty
Sorry im trying to catch up so may ask random questions that could be basic info
boreal abyss
No worries
turbid jewel
Do we know the skill cap that a character can possess? Like will the game have alot of abilities/ magical skills?
boreal abyss
I think they said something about "around 30 skills per main archetype"
boreal abyss
Secondary Archetypes gives no skill
It only gives "Augments" you can use on Main Archetype skills to alter the skill
turbid jewel
Oh i seee
boreal abyss
Every skill has Several Augment slots
2nd Archetype, Social Organization, Religion and Race give you some augments you can put on those skills to alter them in some form
turbid jewel
Augment...as in the appearance aswell at stats?
boreal abyss
Some change stats, some might change appearance, some might change how the skill works a bit
Like A warrior's "Rush" ability
With a Rogue it might have a Stealth Augment that makes you invisible while Charging
With a Mage it might have a teleport effect where you teleport to target instead of charge
turbid jewel
Ah ok i see, thats cool
turbid jewel
I liked seeing how a mage could interact with things in the environment, like destroying a boulder blocking an entrance, do they expand on this?
boreal abyss
That is what is called a "Utility" skill
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Utility_skills
turbid jewel
Oh nice
I love how one skill has varied uses thats really cool
Are those the only UT skills or will we be getting more down the line?
boreal abyss
those are all we know about for now, nothing other info has been shown yet
visual raven
With referrals on the website in the visits tab what does Converted mean? I assume it means they visited the site and made an account
teal hatch
Do we know when alpha 2 is expected to be released?
boreal abyss
Q3 2019
teal hatch
Thank you 😃
pseudo kraken
Is there anywhere on the wiki that covers the effects of choosing a secondary archetype? Specifically what is planned to happen when X chooses Y as their subclass, do they gain new skills, does it augment the primary archetypes skills based on the secondary archetype etc
boreal abyss
You never get new skills from your 2nd archetype
And we do not know the full effects, but the closest I can think of that explains some things is this
pseudo kraken
Thanks Ziltch
So I am assuming, as an example, that not all skills will be augmented by secondary archetypes - rather just a select few depending on your primary and secondary - has that been confirmed?
Also - I imagine it wouldn't be particularly game changing - a tank using shield slam might gain +6% block rate for 8 seconds if he has his secondary as tank, yet if he had it as fighter it may be +6% crit rate, or as Cleric +6% healing received, or as bard +6 movement speed etc
Do we have any information in that depth?
boreal abyss
All skills can be augmentet as far as I know
dark heart
@pseudo kraken the info you are looking for is here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Skills
That is all the confirmed info
dark heart
Yes
pseudo kraken
so a mage casting fireball has 4 x 8 = 32 potentially different fireballs
dark heart
Plus augments from other sources such as religion https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Augments
boreal abyss
Remember you get Augments from:
Secondary Archetype
Race
Religion
SOcial Organization
pseudo kraken
Jizz in my pants
Thank you both
I'm going to go do some reading..
thats an immense amount of creative fortitude
boreal abyss
Which is why we love them are their idea and can't wait to get our hands on it 😃
pseudo kraken
Can't wait to see an augmented meteor
Are there class specific colours like WoW? Pink = Paladin, Hunter = Pale green, Monk = Green, Shaman = Deep blue, Mage = Light blue etc
boreal abyss
Not really no
pseudo kraken
So as an example, if we see a mage who augments with a tank - can we expect to see say, a blue meteor, and if they went with a summoner - maybe a purple meteor?
pseudo kraken
Is there any confirmation yet on changing primary archetype?
boreal abyss
Won't be able to
pseudo kraken
Is it confirmed though?
pseudo kraken
^^
dark heart
@pseudo kraken you can not change primary archetype only secondary https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes#Changing.2Fswitching
pseudo kraken
Perfect, thank you so much. It was my understanding that they were still debating on whether to permit primary changes - I can see that I understood incorrectly. Thanks.
Wait I just realized, are https://ashesofcreation.wiki/ and https://aocwiki.net different...?
boreal abyss
there are a handful of different wiki's
pseudo kraken
Is there one that's considered most up to date?
dark heart
@pseudo kraken I find that ashesofcreation.wiki has the most info and is most quickly updated
turbid jewel
Someone just told me there may be a underwater skills (besides breathing underwater) that transform you into like mer people to swim as your character in the water? Do we have much info on that area?
junior ore
Also some of the listed content creators here make videos and sort of lay out exactly how the intended mechanics work are how they’re supposed to with a little bit more explanation than just the basic info, but all that is subject to change do keep in mind. But yea content creators channel has some really good links worth watching or at least listening to 😏 @pseudo kraken
pseudo kraken
It's like that for all of them @junior ore 😄
reef dagger
Just listen with caution when it comes to podcasts, as they tend to be more speculation and discussion of opinions for entertainment value than straight information, found a couple podcasts lacking in completely accurate information. Always fact check or cross reference information with a couple content creators
willow kindle
servers up?
vapid kindle
@willow kindle Nope. Last we heard maybe today or tomorrow for another round of stress testing.
willow kindle
ok thanks 😃
junior ore
Imo it’s not the podcasts you want it’s the ones that just describe mechanics or go into details personally @weak flax does really good with keeping it generic but giving you as much info as possible at the same time ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
zinc ermine
When do they normally update the pre order packs each month?
modest sierra
it should be around the 17th, but there is never a guarantee
reef prawn
These days it's most likely about the beginning of the third week yeah
It was supposed to be beginning of every month but
Changed with time lol
zinc ermine
That's why I was wondering--- even though the wiki lists them as different every month it seemed more like it was happening at the midpoint of every month; thanks ^-^
Did they plan on keeping voyager at 375 or were they going to raise it back to 500?
proven arrow
The 500 was only for a1 access included
zinc ermine
Ahh okay~
weak flax
I hath been summoned
In my content I try to provide as much information as possible that we have gleaned from what the devs have said up to this point, through the wiki where I get this info
Obviously this is all subject to change, like any aspect of the Alpha's/Beta's moving forward
young prism
When is the next Ashes of Creation stream?
cedar talon
Somewhere next month
candid lava
This is the week when there will be no NDA right?
crystal beacon
unknown
vapid kindle
@candid lava The last test was very short and ran into an issue they had to fix. No info yet on the status of the NDA
azure birch
They said sometime this month
digital yacht
Nda should be gone after this test, if not might be gone at the beginning of this test no definitive answer yet
surreal elk
The NDA will drop when Steven and the team feel its ready 2, as an Alpha 1 stress tester I would say, like many of the other testers its not ready to be dropped imo, I dont think it should be dropped till you actually have MMO elements like quests, dungeons etc. It will just confuse players we see it daily here, is Ashes a MMO or BR game.
twilit tapir
@surreal elk I agree!
crystal beacon
Are all alpha one members allowed to play yet? I haven’t received a code or instructions...
vapid kindle
@crystal beacon Yes, they should all have access. Which pack did you get and when?
crystal beacon
Intrepid July 23rd
cedar talon
check your spam folders, you should have recieved an email weeks ago
vapid kindle
@crystal beacon You would have gotten several emails by now. As stated, check spam folders.
cedar talon
community@intrepidstudios.com thats the email
crystal beacon
Thanks! I think I found it. Man... a lot of missed opportunity.
cedar talon
you didnt miss much, we will get another testing window somewhere this week
crystal beacon
Servers down atm?
crystal beacon
Ah, well I’m a partnered twitch streamer. Any early opportunity is good opportunity.
cedar talon
Should tell you in that case that we are currently under a visual NDA
vapid harbor
new info on nda yet?
cedar talon
no
vapid harbor
so they decided to delay it again from their first delay?
cedar talon
Would seem so
vapid harbor
hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
turbid egret
i feel like one of the videos i watched somewhere had info about this, but is intrepid thinking about, or interested at all in ashes joining the esports side of things ? because i think it'd be really cool to see a competitive side depending on how well it gains popularity
dark heart
@turbid egret this is info I find about that https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas#Esports
cedar talon
Its something Steven is interested in
junior ore
Tbh based of all previous statements and info it’s safe to assume the nda is in effect until you either get an email or a clear statement from the man himself.. and most of the people with a1 or better access should know by now that when you can test or when the nda is lifted it will be very clear anyone that’s out of a1 loop it’s safe to assume if you don’t see a stream pics or videos being posted outside of official ashes/ intrepid sources, and no offficial fan sites do not count everything is still under some form of nda
dark heart
"If we make the gameplay compelling, competitive and fun, that naturally it will move in that direction; and then we will find the ability to support it afterwards."
turbid egret
awesome, thanks @dark heart
candid lava
They said they are discussing about the cross server gameplay in the Arenas, right?
surreal elk
possible no real news on that @candid lava things were being "considered"
candid lava
Hopefully they go in that direction
turbid egret
another question, and i feel like i've read this somewhere before, or i might be getting it confused with something else...
is there going to be a tool to group parties or whatever together, or will we have to work and develop friendships and group together? personally, i'd enjoy a social aspect of forming meaningful party groups
lime patrol
Any idea when the next stress test may be?
boreal abyss
@turbid egret
No, ther will be NO systems for automaticallgrouping
The devs dislike those kinds of systems because it takes the social aspect out of a game
junior ore
^^ and this day in age there’s a discord for everything wether they like it or not 🤷🏼♂️
turbid egret
cool @boreal abyss
i definitely don't want a social aspect to be taken out of a pvp focused mmo
really make you feel like you're inside the game and have meaningful friendships
crystal beacon
Is it all visual nda or just video?
cedar talon
all visual
junior ore
^^
crystal beacon
Sad times, i’ll read all the info. But thanks for the heads up! You rock @cedar talon
cedar talon
np
turbid egret
what's the best way to contact intrepid for a personal question ? i assume it would be best to use the pr email listed on the website ? or would it be acceptable to contact steven or someone directly on discord ?
it deals with my own situation, so i'd like to limit the amount of people who know of such
lime patrol
Just a small question how do I reserve Guild name? I haven't created one yet but when I do I'd like to reserve the name
boreal abyss
No such systems in place yet
proven arrow
Technically you can reserve a guild name now(not in game), create one reach 10players in the discord with your guild tag, then post on the guild forum the belle-bot posted.
cedar talon
@turbid egret I'd just ask it here, maybe one of us can help you with it
there isnt really a way to privatly contact Intrepid
proven arrow
Message a mod, they can relay you to the right place.
turbid egret
mmk, i'll try that first. thanks tho @cedar talon
lime patrol
I just want to make sure none else takes the name since my pledge reserves it
proven arrow
Then make a guild now so you have evidence of being the only "insert name here"
ruby swift
@lime patrol Name reservation goes in order of pledge package tier. The higher your package the earlier you will get to reserve. So those that pledged 10k will get the first choice, then 5k, and down the line.
lime patrol
@ruby swift that makes sense thanks!
fallow adder
So we can reserve a guild name now through discord for launch? If I reserve ours now but someone takes it at launch will they be required to change or what?
ruby swift
Guild reservation hasn't been implemented yet. But will most likely follow the same system for name reservation (unconfirmed).
Look for name/guild reservation once the actual account system goes online in the next couple months. Should be soon since they will need it in place to track achievements for the A1P1 BR cosmetics.
fallow adder
Was guild reservation only during Kickstarter?
ruby swift
So far, yes
fallow adder
Ah ok. I got in a little late, wish I would have known about it last year :/
Missed out on quite a bit of options
ruby swift
Was a little weird, since those Braver of Worlds and above got guild reservation, even though the Leader of Men level was the package mainly for guild perks.
fallow adder
Ic. Guess I just have to hope no one chooses ours on the server we end up on, or try and recruit a Kickstarter with it lol
ruby swift
Unless you have a fairly common guild name, or you advertise it to the point that someone wants to troll you by wasting their reservation by taking your name, you should be fine.
wanton thunder
what is the maximum party member you can have?
vapid kindle
@wanton thunder If you mean party size, 40 man raids are planned. So, I guess at least 40 in a raid
vapid kindle
I believe 8 is the max party size if I am reading the wiki correctly
First question in this FAQ https://aocwiki.net/Gameplay_FAQ
rigid sage
There is no hunger mechanic
empty fjord
Food will merely be for buffs
empty fjord
@craggy zodiac https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Food_and_drink and https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Potions
empty fjord
it is really no problem 😃
I just happen to keep a tab open with it at all times hehe
empty fjord
Dates regarding Battlegrounds have moved back a bit due to problems with the stress test. sooooo
solar marlin
Will your AoC account username be your display name in-game?
boreal abyss
Doubt it, if anything I think they will use the AoC accunt username as the thing you use to add friends etc like other games
solar marlin
Cause I'm debating whether I should use like a serious mythology name / my typical gamer id
reef prawn
I'm going with a serious fantasy name rather than "Pacha"
empty fjord
@solar marlin if that was the case you'd only have one character per account
reef prawn
^
vocal valve
tiny fable
Is there anywhere I can check what add-ons I already own? I know I can check what store items ive bought but I was unsure about add-ons
pearl lynx
@tiny fable account > purchases and orders
this should show the pack and any store addons on your account.
should show anything you've bought, when you click into view details it'll show anything within the order or the packs
tiny fable
I must've just not bought any then, I was certain I had.
Oh well pulls out wallet
pearl lynx
there's also a "view addon's and upgrade package" at the bottom of the purchase order screen, though all of mine shows up on the purchase order screen
shrugs
tiny fable
I may make a test purchase to see, thanks for the help tho!
pearl lynx
np 😃
wanton thunder
the Wayfarer Pre-Order Pack in store with 75$, vat is included ?
pearl lynx
@wanton thunder What you'll get:
Our Wayfarer Pre-Order Pack allows access to our Beta 2 testing phase! This Pre-Order Pack includes (in total);
Access to Beta 2
2 months of game time ($30 Value)
$25 in Embers (in-game marketplace credits, NO P2W!)
Khyber’s Jewel
In addition to the cosmetic items granted with the Wayfarer Pre-Order Pack at the time of purchase, you will also be entitled to purchase future monthly cosmetics as add-ons for the Wayfarer Level Pre-Order Pack and below. Pre-Order Pack cosmetics are only available during the month they are featured, and will never be available again for purchase. In order to own a Pre-Order Pack’s cosmetics, you must either purchase the Pre-Order Pack during the month that the cosmetic is featured or have purchased that level pack or higher in a previous month in order to buy the cosmetic as an add-on. Kickstarter and Summer Backers will always be able to purchase Pre-Order Pack cosmetics as add-ons.
wanton thunder
i see that but i pay 75$ final price or i need to to pay tax ?
pearl lynx
@wanton thunder $75 final
wanton thunder
and the time count from when the game is full release or from the beta 2 ?
boreal abyss
no release date set, their goal is to release before 2020
wanton thunder
im going to buy this pack the next week and i needed some info 😃 thank you very much
empty fjord
There is no info on how long the beta phases are going to be or how long in between
wanton thunder
this is not a problem to me, or even if the game release after 2020 😃
digital yacht
@wanton thunder and to answer ur other question the 2months of game time starts on launcher not during beta
wanton thunder
@that's great. thank you very much 😃
prime crag
I want to assume that the team won't implement "Adult" features / animations / emotes for the game as honestly, it isn't a huge priority nor should it be the main selling point but has there been any wind of them at all touching the subject of that stuff in game? Anywhere from typical honeymoon sessions of pleasurable thrill to bar wenches in the upstairs tavern rooms?
digital yacht
Umm good question I do believe he has touched up on this subject from what I can remember he said it won’t be a “kids” game but it’s def not gunna be xxx lol I would go and find u the quote but at work on phone 😥
prime crag
Yeah, that's fine. I'm pretty sure it'd be overkill for most (a dream come true for ERPers) if they did.....I know it was mentioned somewhere on forums that it wouldn't be as brazen as Conan Exiles but nobody can really be so sure unless it was stated somewhere. Definitely great to know its gonna be for Matures on the ESRB rating from what I've read.
Also tried CTRL+F searching here but I can't seem to find anyone that has asked the question straight
digital yacht
Believe it was in a livestream
vapid kindle
I tried to find any info I could on this. Didn't locate much
digital yacht
And on the ESRB rating I doubt it will be M
glass swallow
At the moment its T but yes that can change
azure birch
is NDA lifted yet?
reef prawn
Still under visual nda
azure birch
They sure take their time..i hope it will be lifted this week
proven arrow
They are ironing out some major features that would create a lot of negative press from outsiders who didn't understand the BR mode is a combat test and not a fully featured mode.
glass swallow
Not really. Alpha 1 was scheduled for Dec 2018. Still 2 months ahead of initial plan ❤
rustic relic
Even when NDA gets lifted, all previous content recorded under the NDA is still protected right?
I'm guessing people want to know so they know if they can stream it?
All those screen caps and recording you took from alpha 0 till now are gonna be protected forever more.
(or at least untill the game has been successful for a few years and people eventually start leaking...)
reef prawn
yes
vapid kindle
A lot of it is people want to WATCH people stream it
However, no, you cannot release any content from before the lift.
digital yacht
@rustic relic yea anything recorded under NdA stays under nda therefore is sucks for your users cuz they need to get new content to make videos but streamers can start off strong streaming, and now ccs have less time to play cuz editing..
willow rapids
@idle siren where's our update?
azure birch
what update
boreal abyss
"try"
So.. no news === did not manage to
azure birch
Sōdesu ka
woven vale
Do we have any information on the Bard? I see the bard more as a commander giving inspiring buffs, healing with resolve, and fighting in the front. Odd view but from DND that's how I see it.
dark heart
@woven vale only what is here i think https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bard
half gale
Do I risk missing out on exclusive rewards if I wait until the NDA is lifted to buy a pack off the store? E.g. Are the items currently on the store only available for a limited time?
vapid kindle
@half gale They are only for a limited time. The NDA will hopefully be gone before they are however. We do not yet know the date of the comsetic changeover
I would also be aware the current test is a battleroyale and many features are not yet implemented. Further testing phases will be closure to the MMO that is the final product.
half gale
Yeah, I figure an NDA lift on the battle royale portion of the game isn't really going to give me any further insight...
Thanks for the answers though
I really want to buy into the hype, but I've been burned by Star Citizen and all the general EA pre-order shenanigans. Does the "fool me once..." saying even have a category for people who go in for round 3?
vapid kindle
@shadow jasper Any questions, you can ask them here.
shadow jasper
@vapid kindle oh heey bro, and alright i will
charred ridgeBOT
sudden lava
is there a alpha 1 tester discord? if os i need an invite
surreal elk
check pinned msgs
dark jungle
Please keep this channel for direct questions and factual answers @crystal beacon
craggy zodiac
Any words on when they gonna release more info on classes?
boreal abyss
@half gale
Yes, the items in the store atm are this month's exclusive cosmetics.
Every month until release the store will change what the exclusive items of that month is.
They will never be seen again after this month is over, like in the previous months.
glossy phoenix
Could a system like ark evolved torpidity be implamented to create plitical kidnaping and such?
tawdry swallow
Will their be a free stress test for everybody to try this month (October) or was it just a rumor?
empty fjord
was not a rumor, it will happen, but it May not happen this month since the stress test went over time
crystal beacon
The download link in the email isn't working.
Also, when I click on the alpha one discord channel rank link it says Permission Problem: You don't have permission to do that.
tulip hatch
Servers are currently offline so downloading is not possible
Please check pinned messages for additional information in regards to receiving your alpha 1 roles
covert plank
New Skins before Halloween? @reef mulch
crystal beacon
I've downloaded the docs..
tulip hatch
How long have you waited
The pinned post does inform you of what to do if youve done all this and waited for several days with no change
covert plank
@tulip hatch Do you know when we can dowload the current game client, i was not able to do it last time
tulip hatch
No unfortunately that all depends on intrepid and when theyre ready with the client update
i can see if i can request steven to allow enough time for a pre download
i make no promises though
crystal beacon
ok
normal tangle
I had a question I hope someone could help me with. So I backed the kickstarter up to beta 1 access. If I wanted to get in on alpha 2 I'd have to buy one of the preorder packs on their website. My question is what happens to all of the overlap. Would I then get two beta keys since I purchased beta access twice? Or is there any other way to get alpha 2 access outside of the pre order pack on their website?
tulip hatch
KS backers can still upgrade
You dont have to buy a new preorder pack from the current store just follow the link and click on your desired package to upgrade, you just have to pay the difference.
normal tangle
Oh holy crap. I had no idea. Thanks!!
gilded ice
@tulip hatch Also KS backers can still buy summer backer things, i just got the ice and fire racial skin not to long ago ^.^
tulip hatch
👀 Yes
gilded ice
to anyone interested in that https://www.ashesofcreation.com/dashboard/
narrow eagle
So I was recruited by someone and I know that means they get a portion of money I spend on ashes, does that include physical items I buy out of the ashes store? Like if I buy the $41 hoodie while signed into my account, does their account get credited with $6.15?
ruby swift
Yep
narrow eagle
awesome, thank you
ruby swift
Unless they have changed the rules since I last looked at referrals (not likely), they spend money on that account, you get the 15%. Now that will come after launch, and will have a period of verification once that happens before you can get paid out, so don't think you're going to be rolling in the dolla dolla bills anytime soon.
vapid kindle
<@&257269635559194625> Some development studios have recently gotten into a lot of trouble with their employees making extremely unprofessional and insulting remarks about their users on social media. Is there a social media policy in place to address that so it hopefully never becomes an issue for you guys? I note your engagement currently is very well done, so this is merely covering of bases just in case.
silent lantern
@vapid kindle The ones that did violate it in said companies were fired if i recall correctly. Even if there is no policy for talking smack about users in social media, it is seen as unprofessional behavior which is a good reason to let go of there people.
What i mean is.. Whether there is a policy or not, if a person dedicates himself on breaking it and being unprofessional, they will break it. Some people just don't care about the consequences or don't know about them.
harsh oasis
<@&257269635559194625> I only bought access to Alpha 2, but I did not expect that it would take so long until Alpha 2 would start. Because of that fact I really would like to participate in Alpha 1.
Are there really no more raffles or other options to get into Alpha 1?
Would I be allowed to ask around if someone would sell their account with access to Alpha 1 or would buying an account before the launch of the game also be against TOS?
glass swallow
@harsh oasis in regards to purchasing accounts
No Monetary Transactions!
Under no circumstances will monetary transactions be permitted to be posted. This includes offering or requesting payment for help leveling up, in-game items, alpha/beta keys, artwork for your character, etc. This is simply because we cannot help you if anything goes wrong and certain types of things (such as payment for help leveling) are against our game’s terms of service.
While events or raffles may come in the future we do not currently have raffles at this time
If you bought a package with Alpha 2, was this a Kickstarter? Summersale or store package?
harsh oasis
I bought a Settler package on Kickstarter and then later upgraded to Warrior of Old through the Ashes shop.
vapid kindle
@harsh oasis You could upgrade that to Braver of Worlds to gain access to Alpha 1
harsh oasis
@vapid kindle @glass swallow THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I just upgraded...so happy now 😃
vapid kindle
@harsh oasis I'm unsure if you will need to submit a ticket or not to get processed for Alpha 1 credentials since you are getting in after the main batch of players, but rest assured you are now eligible for access. @glass swallow may know for sure if you need to take any action.
harsh oasis
@vapid kindle Thanks for the hint. I created a ticket just to be sure.
crystal beacon
If I am not mistaken you would get an invitation to whenever the servers go up by mail, which would give you an NDA form, and by opening that you'd get your rank.
tidal stirrup
Is the NDA in the email itself? I got a testing email but couldn't find the NDA
fallow adder
It should have been in the first email saying you were invited to to A1 stress tests
junior ore
The nda would be in the initial a1 stress test email with your creds , to my knowledge they have a back log to approve for proper access to forums and discord and took me a few days to get it but when servers are up and you click that nda you can login without the forum access to the game itself
fathom sky
Question: I just looked on the Kickstarter page and it says there’s a new campaign for those who weren’t able to join before. Can anyone confirm if we can still pay for Kickstarter or if it’s too late, and what they mean by a new campaign? Thank you.
boreal abyss
In relation to Campaign:
They refer to the Summer backing, which happened because some people were unable to back them because of issues between their banks and using Kickstarter.
This happened right after the Kickstarter was over.
We cannot still pay for kickstarter, kickstarter is over a long time ago 😃
If, however you bought a Kickstarter/Summer Backer pack and want to upgrade it, that is still possible
fathom sky
Thought so, thank you for clarifying.
crystal beacon
hey, will the bucks reduced the monthy fee forever or just for that month?
lime acorn
I have a question. I purchased the $75 package couple months back. I want to upgrade. But it is a new package now. Will the benefits double or what will happen if I purchase the upgraded $375