dont think packs will release till oct
#questions
surreal elk
vapid kindle
It was already confirmed Friday/Monday
plucky jetty
When do skins change on the store?
cedar talon
14th or 17th
plucky jetty
we're twins
candid lava
indeed 😏
woeful zephyr
Can node leaders be impeached
candid lava
That's a good question, I would also like to know answer for that
woeful zephyr
Thanks!
gray bone
Any infos about dungeons and raiding?
teal nebula
@gray bone https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Dungeons
gray bone
Thank you dabs
silent lantern
I mean.. You can go and read what is written in the wiki's up to now. They are frequently updated with new info that we receive from the guys in Intrepid.
fathom sky
Question, am I correct that they are going to open Alpha 1 Phase 1 to every individual with a registered account in October?
ruby swift
Only for like a month correct @verbal quiver ?
verbal quiver
for a while wasn't it?
ruby swift
Yeah, I saw that it would be a month at the end of the BR phase, then we would do sieges without all the unwashed masses having access, then they would open sieges for a month, then lock em out yet again while we tested horde, then let them in for horde for a month, then lock em out for A1P2......but then later think there was a statement they would leave the BR open in perpetuity as a free sorta thing standalone, not sure on that part.
verbal quiver
yeah i thought they were leaving em up for a while for all the peoples, idk i'll see if i can find the quote
"Alpha 1 phase 1, the “arena” will continue as a matchmaking side that everyone can play." there may be more to it but yeah
ruby swift
Cool...more data means more enhancement.....better game at launch.
verbal quiver
acutally i know @glass swallow do u remember how long BR is going to be open for 😏
open sierra
aoc world will become bigger with next patches and contents after release?
gray bone
Yes they announced dlcs, unsure if they said they are free
ruby swift
A2 is meant to be around a quarter of the available map at launch. So huge in its own right.
verbal quiver
@gray bone freeeee
ruby swift
All dlcs are free, and testing is not a dlc
gray bone
Siiick
gray bone
Wtf I love intrepid now
knotty tiger
Have the invites for this round been sent out now? For the stress test that is
verbal quiver
the one that was on yesterday yes
unsure if more invites are going out this week though 😦
crystal beacon
Was the stress test ystd better than the first one? How was it, overall? Did Steven say anything regarding another a1 wave/NDA drop?
mighty kernel
Yes
gray bone
I heard it was better
mighty kernel
It was loads better
I didn't see a comment from Steven about another wave or NDA drop
crystal beacon
Was it overall "smooth"?
mighty kernel
The answer is mostly yes
crystal beacon
okay thanks
mighty kernel
They were pushing the servers hard so there were some expected bumps
It was a blast and they gathered valuable information.
verbal quiver
not exactly, probally try and fix a few bug's etc that came up
crystal beacon
6pm again?
verbal quiver
no idea atm 😦
crystal beacon
cheers 😃
Does anyone know if Intrepid pack preorder buyers will get in on wave 3?
west solstice
Depends on how many they will invite.
There are still a lot of KS BoW packs waiting for their invite
crystal beacon
I see, been religiously checking my email like a lot of people must be 😅 no worries
ocean falcon
Everytime my phone makes a noise i check for mail
silent lantern
The emails went out yesterday. Dunno why you all still waiting 😄
glass swallow
Leader of Men backers and higher should now all be included. Those backers with Braver of Worlds status have begun to receive invites based on backer number. We do have a large number of backers in this tier and access will come in order of tier. There is a high chance that many will receive access during next week's test all relative to backer number and spaces allocated to test.
verbal gate
Just read above ^
dreamy olive
@verbal gate currently 1000 invites have been se t out. 750 people are in a tier higher than BoW from the initial KS alone. Then you have to add those people that upgraded too
verbal gate
It’s all good. I’ll just drink my tea and not impatiently wait or anything haha
dreamy olive
Tea is good...
untold ridge
Question. I have LoM pack rn what happen if I buy BoW pack in upgrade store, It will downgrade or I will get another key?
untold ridge
👌
shut token
I just got to my laptop after receiving the email yesterday for the stress test but can’t open the first link that directs you to alpha-1-stress-testing forums but the screen pops up saying “Permission Problem you don’t have permission to do that”. Also when I tried logging in to download the client i got connectETIMEOUT
verbal quiver
atm servers are down atm, they only stay up for a few hours at a time, Did you open the NDA attached to your email? This sends a read receipt to Intrepid enacting your NDA and is the first step.
If yes, the NDAs from last night will likely get processed today during buisness hours. Once processed, I am notified to build Forums level perms for the account
From there you would be able to view and follow the details contained here - https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/40303/how-to-obtain-your-nda-discord-channel-rank to obtain your Discord perms set up
- from bel
drifting forum
You must be a stress tester for the A1 channel? Is it hidden ?? What if you have A1
verbal quiver
because the stress test is under NDA, there are A1 channel's in place, once u get your invite you will be able to gain access to the channels, follow above message
drifting forum
Will access be given to the channel once invited?
verbal quiver
yep
drifting forum
Cool thanx yo
verbal quiver
np 😃
shut token
So the NDA is showing up as a word doc, how am I suppose to “click accept/I Agree”
verbal quiver
all u have to do is open it, u agree to it in the launcher
once, your able to log in with your cred's etc
shut token
Then there is the issue, I can’t accept because of the ETIMEOUT message I get when I tried logging in
verbal quiver
yeah cause cred's have been disabled atm, once u open the link in the email it sends a alert to intrepid saying u've read it and starts the perm's process
the cred's will be fixed up prior to a test 😃
shut token
Okay, so am I S.o.L to download the launcher till the next stress test?
verbal quiver
can't download atm, unsure if there will be time prior to next testing to download it, as they still have to work on the bug's etc and get that all fixed up
shut token
Okay thanks Shunex, have a good day 😁
verbal quiver
np gl!
wary rampart
anyone got any info on how necromancer will roughly play?
I know it's early days but I'm just curious
crystal flax
Still too far out to have any info on that really
silent lantern
@wary rampart We might get all classes (at least the archetypes) in A1P2, but i think the complete game will be present in A2
Necromancer will essentially be a summoner with weird augments 😄
wary rampart
alright, thanks for the super quick answers lol
tbh I prefer the idea of playing cultist over necro, but I was just curious how it might play
dark heart
@wary rampart this is all the info we have right now https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Necromancer
wary rampart
yeah I saw that the other day, I was more or less wondering if any more info had come up
dark heart
I see. From the wiki it looks like the last information given out was 8 August 2018
This is the full transcript of that interview https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Talk:2018-08-08_Discord_Q%26A
Here is the exact word for that
22:27
Gotcha thank you. Steven I've got a question I can't believe I'm talking to you this is amazing. Yeah, so my question is involving summoners. So, say I'm a level one summoner or whatever and then I can come in [unrecognizable]. They are augment at to a healer so then maybe I'm thinking of [unrecognizable] like fireballs or whatever maybe it drops like healing dots every 3 seconds or something to kind of augment that spell. And then I was thinking or wondering, can you like level up your summoner you're summonings?
Sure so a summoner that goes with the cleric secondary class is going to be a necromancer really, so the necromancer is going to be able to choose the path of life or death with regards to its summoning influences and augments. So you'll be able to augment your summons to either aid and assist in healing and providing support to either yourself or the other summons you may have out or other party members; and the the death side of that augmentation will really influence your opponent to create damage, to sap life, to manipulate their ability to survive in combat. The idea behind the system is that you you're kind of skirting the line through these augmentations of your role, right. We have the traditional holy Trinity that's present in class designs for MMOs and it's often that those either are not deviated at all or completely deviated from entirely. The augment as to kind of offer a balance between that where you still maintain the semblance of that Trinity system while offering the opportunity to customize your play experience towards one of the other angles in the triangle. I hope that I don't know I think I kinda lost what asked.
Did you say you could level up your summoner's monster or whatever?
Oh yes you can level up absolutely those are skills is the active of skills that are found from your primary class so you gain your summons from your summoner class as an active skill and then skills can be further developed with points yes.
Thank you.
wary rampart
so if I'm reading this right ,aoc necro will resemble a diablo 2 style mixed with the idea of you being able to posses one of your summons
with the added part of it being able to play support as well as dps
serene sparrow
Was anything said about having multiple summons at once?
dark heart
I not play diablo2 but I think youre are right about posseing your summons yes
wary rampart
he did mention summons plural so maybe
unless steven meant that as more of a general staement
serene sparrow
I just am hoping it is not like Blade and Soul where you only have one
dark heart
Yes @serene sparrow if you read here you will see that summoner can have multiple summons https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Necromancer#Skills.2Fabilities
serene sparrow
Thank you
proven arrow
Something we know about summoners, is that primary spec summoner's get more permanent pets, whereas the summoner secondary would get temp summons.
dark heart
"Some summoners may summon multiple things.[7]
Other summoners may only summon one powerful thing.[7]
Certain summoners may only be able to summon effects and/or temporary energies.[7]"
serene sparrow
I know we were told but i cant remember. When does the NDA go away?
idle bloom
Things like beast summoning come with Summoner primary, not secondary. Taking secondary class won't add skills.
serene sparrow
Ah, for some reason I thought it was this month
dark heart
@serene sparrow https://ashesofcreation.wiki/images/6/6d/stresstest-NDA5.png
serene sparrow
@dark heart I know it says today but is that just a picture or was it actually today?
crystal flax
That was from yesterday
serene sparrow
Ok thank you
proven arrow
If the build is stable with no major crashes, then it's likely to drop the NDA.
warped bison
Hey guys, is the stress test still on or was it for a short amount of time?
crystal flax
Was only for a few hours, not currently active
warped bison
Ah ok, I downloaded it but it was at 2am for me. Thanks.
crystal flax
Next test is supposed to be some time tonight, just remember that their time is PDT and to base that around their version of "tonight"
warped bison
I'd imagine another email will be sent out to notify us?
crystal flax
Most likely, yes
warped bison
Gdgd
eager rock
I cannot find the info.
If you are a citizen of a node and go out of your zoi does a small amount of your xp still go to your node? Even if you are at a other nodes zoi?
spice ember
no, xp is tied to node zoi, not citizenship
burnt wraith
Are mounts summonable or do they always exist on the map.
dark heart
@burnt wraith you summon them https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mounts#Summoning_mounts
Mounts are going to be items that you will be able to carry on your character and activate to summon the mount in front of you or near you; where you can then ride the mount.'[5] – Steven Sharif
quiet gust
My memory is failing me a little. Was there mention made that potential dungeon rewards would include special freehold designs?
dark heart
I not see dungeon rewards but social organisation do reward freehold blueprints https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Social_organizations#Benefits
quartz anvil
What is that? Butterfly cat? I want that one
dark heart
This one? https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Dawnbreaker
It is from the kick starter
Kick start no longer available
quartz anvil
My dreams have just been crushed
dark heart
I would like that one too
quartz anvil
Is Steven letting us know the new bundles available today?
cedar talon
Today or monday
quartz anvil
Kk, thank you
spice ember
I would expect the later, later in the day lol
serene sparrow
has anything been said about being able to use "dark" magic outside of necro
mighty kernel
Do you mean "evil" or darkness magic?
idle bloom
I think mages get a tentacle aoe root spell that's dark. 😆 No but I think it'll come down to augmenting, Messorem. We'll see.
serene sparrow
Thank you
limber sundial
No news on the next stress test?
tulip hatch
There is a stress test today
limber sundial
Let me guess, it's in the evening (pst) T.T
tulip hatch
Most likely, but no time has been provided as of yet
limber sundial
I'm going to go ahead and download the client in the hopes i can leave work for an "emergency" lol
Hmm I'm not able to access the forums for stress testing. I missed joining in yesterday, do I have to wait for new credentials to be sent for the next stress test to have a chance at playing or even joining in the forums?
Or do i need to sign in on the main website using the long log in info provided and then access the link?
tulip hatch
Have you clicked on the NDA link and read the NDA - if you have done this then youre all set and need to wait till forum permissions have been applied once you have those follow the instructions in the email to receive your discord perms as well.
limber sundial
Ok
vapid harbor
if my friend that has a kickstarter account with the " dawnbreaker " mount " character royalty costume " and he just completely dislikes it, can he give it to me, or would those be account bound?
idle bloom
Seems like they'd not allow for giving because it would quickly lead to selling but that's just a thought.
vapid harbor
that is true but i figured that i would ask anyways
looking at the kickstarter packages with additional beta keys though, surely those are for giving to friends right?
mighty kernel
Beta keys can be given to whomever you like
cedar talon
Beta keys are there to give away. Skins etc are not to give away because they promote P2W
vapid harbor
the skins give an advantage?
cedar talon
I have a cool weapon, you want that weapon. But don't have the gold. You gift me a skin, I give you the weapon. Thats P2W
cedar talon
Free DLC overtime
vapid harbor
will it be major content patches with long breaks in between, smaller ones with short breaks?
cedar talon
major with long breaks
tulip hatch
They plan for quarterly and monthly updates - quarterly updates will be the big content updates
fluid scroll
Even though I am a Stress Tester, will I be able to keep my Alpha 0 Participant title and have it displayed?
wicked epoch
does anyone know if the final release will come with region locked server ?
nocturne moss
I believe they said no but we'll see 
digital yacht
No region lock
wicked epoch
ah good - in worst case ill invade the us servers 😛
wicked epoch
yeah same here - i played eq1 for 5+ years and eq2 for a few months on an us server - lat. of 150-180ms, what is totally ok for this kind of game.
digital yacht
Depending on where ur at eu to na east can be between 50-150 ping
I have a eu friend play on na east ny server for ark and he girl ime 56ping
wicked epoch
yeah should be fine enough - that 150-180 was ~10-15years ago 😃
digital yacht
Yea
hollow elm
So in the recent video there was a mini map, dose the mini map show players? if so, could that be not be a thing? so then people can sneak up on to the city during war?
proven arrow
I think it shows item locations
hollow elm
For when it comes to war on a node, can there be spy's inside of the city to attack with in the walls while it gets sieged? also is the war zone of a node restricted to one side of the city? or can you attack from all sides at the same time?
crystal beacon
hollow elm
o ty
ruby swift
@fluid scroll Mine are displayed on forums and here, so I would say yes.
crystal beacon
What are the other 8 religions that one can adopt? I know they talked about 2 of the 10 but haven't seen anything about the other 8.
crisp agate
The “Goddess of Love” and “God of Creation” were just examples from a PAX question when someone asked about the concept of gods in general. They’ve said there’ll be 6 religions to pick from.
grim venture
Will the battle royal be the only competitive mode in the game? I wanted to know if pvp will also be something that was looking to be competitive in the game?
dark heart
They have castle siege and horde mode planned also https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha-1_testing_modes
neat sundial
yep, seems this is really testing combat and server loads in an isolated sort of way
vapid kindle
Any word on the test time tonight?
ruby swift
Nope
vapid kindle
ty
shut token
Anyone have issues logging in?
surreal elk
considering its not a test time......... you wont be able to log in
shut token
Anyone still having issues signing in to be able to accept or agree to the NDA
crystal flax
Yes, we are
You should DM @glass swallow If you don't have the stress test tag and you should
vapid harbor
Do we get cash shop currency each month from having the subscription?
digital yacht
dont think so
ruby swift
@vapid harbor has never been confirmed either way
vapid harbor
Do you feel they would have any plans for getting rid of the subscription
Farther down the road after launch after a few years
crystal flax
Considering one of the KS bonuses was "lifetime subscription" it doesn't seem likely
fair yew
No they have no plans to make the game f2p
vapid kindle
I consider it VERY unlikely to go free to play, as all viable free to play models involve some level of pay to win mechanics
vapid harbor
Well if it DID go buy to play or free to play, what would they provide for the lifetime subs
vapid kindle
That is a question even Intrepid likely has no answer to since going F2P is far removed from their consideration at this time
vapid harbor
Because I know LOTRO had a lifetime subscription but it eventually did go F2P with optional sub
vapid kindle
Ashes is a bit different in that the CEO is hugely anti- pay to win.
idle bloom
You're wondering what would happen if he unmade this game. This game that was only made to be unlike a F2P game. Well. It would not be this game.
vapid kindle
it's core to the marketing and appeal of the game
glass swallow
thats long down the road if ever. THe team is currently focused on game development so to date we have no official answer
fair yew
Intrepid is completely against p2w models and doing a f2p with sub optional is closer to a p2w model
dry oriole
NDA still scheduled to be lifted next week?
limber sundial
Is the testing going on for a few hours tonight? Deciding whether to go home early
verbal quiver
@limber sundial dunno they haven't said how long it's up for
vapid harbor
Could someone tell me or direct me to where I can find how long alpha 1 will last?
vapid harbor
So alpha 1 will last for one week then close until December
verbal quiver
alpha 1 will have random session's untill march
then it goes into a1-p2
and in a month or so it'll have the BR mode avaiable to all registered users
digital yacht
@vapid harbor https://aocwiki.net/Mounts found here
robust marsh
Soooo in week 3 - all alpha one players will have access a.m. I reading that right
Bloody bs that they lift nda before we can go in - that’s just utter crap
mighty kernel
Is there a question there?
limber sundial
Is the stress test today still up, if so did they say for how long?
digital yacht
still running
verbal quiver
2 or so hours
limber sundial
For 2 more hours?
digital yacht
yea
limber sundial
sigh I need to stay for OT, co-workers didn't show up, that's two days of testing I've missed.
I would hope they keep the servers up for a couple of hours in the morning. Is the 24 hour test period going to happen for alpha 1 phase 1?
dark heart
They said that A1 P1 start with pre allocated timeslots then increase https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha-1_testing
digital vessel
Does armor/weapon etc. has weights that affects attack speed or movespeed of the user?
crystal beacon
hm, in the wiki I only found that light armor is more mobile than heavier armor. So, I didn't find a definite answer to your question
vapid harbor
for those that are playing or have played the stress test, based on what you saw, how would you rate from 0-20, 0 being avoid at all costs, and 20 being wildly above even your best expectations?
empty fjord
avoid the game henceforth you mean?
it's an alpha of an alpha. there is absolutely nothing that could deter me from the game, regardless of the outcome.
winter flame
Will the Battle Royal mode stay up until launch?
empty fjord
most likely no
ocean forum
gosh..hopefully not
cedar talon
we have an elixer gun
bit like a grenade launcher
but gunpowder isnt invented in the world of Ashes
gray bone
all I wanted to know, thanks a lot
dry oriole
[Question] Notice a lot of combat testing. Will there be testing of the crafting and node development mechanics?
dark heart
Yes in alpha 1 phase 2 https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1#Alpha-1_phase_2 https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
velvet panther
I've looked this image.. It said "NDA active during first week." and i didn't understand why there is no video/stream now haha.. But then you linked the image ".... first week(s)." and my world is destroyed now 😢 !
mighty kernel
They will release the NDA when they feel comfortable. Soon my friend, have patience.
austere dragon
Who I can contact about refund questions? Is there some dev or admin? Thank you
mighty kernel
Refund to Kickstarter pledge or Intrepid store purchases?
verbal quiver
customer support via main page of the website, button can be found lower right hand corner
crystal beacon
I have two question. I am suppose to have access to Alpha 1 but did not get an invite email. I have my profile up to day on my account. But I also am interested in a refund for Kickstarter pledge, is that possible/who do I talk to
lone nimbus
@austere dragon you'll have to open a ticket and contact customer service on the ashes website
reef swallow
@crystal beacon alpha one has not started yet, this is a stress test before apha one goes livem and even then they are rolling out invites slowly over the next few weeks going based on those who ordered first get in first, so you may just need to wait a week or so.
digital yacht
@crystal beacon ive heard its hard or not possible to get a KS refund, best bet is to contact CS and see what they can do for you, also try contacting KS support asd well
crystal beacon
Thanks you two
fierce folio
idle bloom
In short, yes.
Steven just made an announcement in the News channel (above these channels)
dreamy olive
@fierce folio (1) have you had an invite (2) the servers have only been up for 2-4 hours on fridsy/Thursdays at about 2am GMT
clear orbit
for the many of us who want to pursue hardcore pvp in an open world setting where we can be immersive and create our own experience i.e. contesting over grindspots or resources with friends/guildies etc. (as found in say, BDO)... how can we fulfill that desire? if we are taking loads of stats debuffs from killing it seems impossible/casual. I totally agree with the exp loss and material loss and the bounty hunter system. but the additional stat debuff seems a bit overkill... other than that I am highly excited about this game and impressed with all you guys are accomplishing!
I never said griefing. but contesting meaningful zones creates meaningful pvp
grim venture
Mounts will die eventually? Wtf
clear orbit
that's only one aspect I mentioned lol.. and I'm comparing it with what I referenced which was BDO, which in short is the pvp. Many players enjoy the pvp that BDO-like open worlds create
and I've already researched their current plans for pvp which is why I am asking if those plans are tentative
magic rover
When is Alpha 2?
crystal flax
The stat penalties only apply if you become corrupted, and continue to kill people who aren't flagged for combat
I imagine the beginning penalties will be negligible, only ramping up if you go on a spree
clear orbit
I hope so
crystal beacon
only legendary mounts will die
normal mounts wont
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule @magic rover
empty fjord
@magic rover Q3 2019
mild bear
@clear orbit there is castles sieges and mobile caravans that are auto-flagged combat. There s time and a place. Lots of places and lots of times in fact.
jade leaf
During the Alphas, will AoC be limiting the class types available for testing? ( something similar to what Camelot UC and Crowfall) or will all 64 classes be available?
dark heart
The classes are limited @jade leaf In alpha 1 phase 2 there is only 8 of the classes. Not sure when all 64 are going to be implemented. I guess it will be about alpha 2
jade leaf
ok cool, has that info been released yet or is it still TBD?
dark heart
Info we have about alpha 1 is here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1
jade leaf
ty ❤
proven arrow
If you wanna gank you can just do the caravan's which are constantly happening all over the world.
No corruption through caravans.
Otherwise if you want to know what other types of pvp. Watch my video.
merry moth
Don't go to his channel full of furries 😛 @proven arrow
proven arrow
nocturne hedge
<@&257269635559194625> just wondering when we are getting our alpha 1 testing because im a KS backer with alpha 1 and havent had an email yet regarding this
merry moth
next week there's another 3k invites going out @nocturne hedge
nocturne hedge
@merry moth cheers mate
merry moth
np 😃
glass swallow
Alpha 1 Phase is targetted to begin 3rd week-ish of September. The current Stress testing that is leading up to Alpha 1 will as Kiwi stated, see 3k additional invites go out next week
merry moth
good bot
proven arrow
Lol she ain't a real bot kiwi
fathom sky
Question: I’m a summer backer ($500 Intrepid pack). Can’t remember what alpha/beta access that grants me. Any knowledge anyone has would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
native mulch
Are we allowed to livestream the game in A1 when we get to play? Or do they not want us to!
?*
crystal flax
There is currently a visual NDA still in effect, they'll let us all know once it's down
fathom sky
Thank you.
fathom sky
One more question: As an Intrepid backer/pack owner does anyone know if I’ll have either 1 or 2 day early access to live launch?
ruby swift
Intrepid packs did not come with headstart/early access.
crystal beacon
Also giving people the possibility to start before others just because they bought a bigger package and keep their progress would be pretty much pay2win. So, no.
hushed plinth
@crystal beacon
certain packages come with headstart
idle bloom
As Makinoji just said, headstart is a thing. There will be headstart servers and non-headstart servers. Also, nodes are disabled during headstart. So no worries, right?
hushed plinth
^
crystal beacon
Yes, I know but as ironfoxide said. It's pretty different as you can't transfer your progress to a server with all features enabled. In terms of the questions I understood it as headstart on an actual launch server.
crystal beacon
Oh, OK I misunderstood. Thanks guys
Now I know at least on which servers I won't play 😅
ocean falcon
Head start gives you a chance to explore but since nodes are off it isnt impacting as much
ruby swift
Headstart will have little impact on people. With the nodes being off, higher level content can't be generated, there is no way to grind out beyond the first initial levels, and from the numbers and the natural migration of those with packs that offered it, even on those headstart servers they will comprise less than 5-10% of that particular servers playerbase. Over the course of two weeks or so any perceived advantage by the "Headstart is p2w" hardcore quibblers will have been negated.
crystal beacon
Yes I understand that it won't be that much of an advantage. Although i only have an pre-order package without the headstart (as long as I know). I just like the idea more to come in a complete unknown world we're nobody knows anything. But that's just my personal thought
ruby swift
Many of the lore aspects, poi's and as of right now at least half the map will be held back for live launch. There will be plenty that people don't know from testing.
Anyone who is testing has no advantage over anyone else about knowledge of the world. If anecdotal statements are to be believed, 100s of people will be streaming Ashes over the next year. So any tips and tricks that people may glean during their paid access to testing will be widely known for those that feel they just must have it RIGHT NEOOW!
graceful skiff
will try to stream every second I am in game over the next year+
crystal beacon
Hi, I'm new here. I'm a kickstarter backer. How long can I upgrade my package? Till launch? Is there any official statement from Steven?
digital yacht
@crystal beacon steven said he will give a stamtent roughly 2 weeks in advancewheh he plans on stopping the upgrades
crystal beacon
@digital yacht Thank you! 😊 Can I read this statement somewhere?
digital yacht
so far back it was answered by steven in the the discussion i can try looking
dark heart
It is stated at the 52 minutes of this stream https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Talk:2018-07-09_Livestream
"So that's really gonna depend it's going to depend on how much room we have left and there will be a point at which there's not enough room left that but I'll make that announcement at least a couple of weeks ahead of time to give you guys a warning okay"
From Steven
@crystal beacon
crystal beacon
Thank you very much, so if I understand that right, they will stop upgrading KS packages if they don't have slots left for A1?
crystal beacon
@dark heart Thank you, because then I will upgrade to BoW, because of the lifetime subscription.
digital yacht
@crystal beacon does it still show Lifetime sub for ur upgrade?
digital yacht
nice im already above Braver so i wasnt sure if it was still available for KS upgrades
crystal beacon
@digital yacht But if this stands there the lifetime subscription is already in BoW, right? Thats why I would buy this package.
digital yacht
yea its the best bang ofr ur buck i was just unsure if it was still vailable
crystal beacon
@digital yacht Do you think they will remove the lifetime subscription in the future from the BoW package?
digital yacht
if u already buy it they wont, i dount they will remove it now its already to far in
it will be gone when they decide to get rid of the package upgrdes all together
but we dont know for sure
verbal quiver
they won't remove it from the KS/SS it was in, however it will not be able to be purchased outside of KS/SS packs
crystal beacon
@verbal quiver But I don't have the money at this time to buy the upgrade. I'll hope the upgrade function is still available till next year because in the description of the BoW stand: Estimades Delivery Dec 2018
verbal quiver
that date was for the alpha 1 to be released, atm we will get around a 2 week warning for the upgrade pathways to be turned off
So you still have time, just it can disappear with only a 2 week or so warning
crystal beacon
@verbal quiver @digital yacht @dark heart Thank you! 😊
will there be an actionhouse for all items? (I hope no)
verbal quiver
not a global auction house it'll be tied into the node system @digital yacht will provide a link 😛
hehehehe
crystal beacon
nice thanks guys
torn jolt
Will there be BR mode in the future beyond the stress testing?
light elm
@torn jolt they plan to have this BR mode to run alongside launch as a separate game mode
torn jolt
I will be more specific, I am raiding playing having fun, I want to do a BR match for fun
I am talking post launch
It is a different game
?
or is it part of the game
light elm
I don't think the details have been disclosed about that yet
torn jolt
I see
silent lantern
@torn jolt As i recall, the BR mode will be free for people who won't sub to play the MMO game, so it makes sense that it is a separate 'game'.
torn jolt
That was said only for stress test
silent lantern
I could be mistaken, but even if this is true, i think i heard it on one of the podcasts where people talked to the devs on PAX. Even if it is true as of now, bare in mind that they can change their mind and scrap the BR mode at any time in the future.
lethal pollen
Why did my dad leave
gleaming spoke
Meth
crystal beacon
Hey all, i posted a guild recruit ad on the forums, but it was late night 2 days ago. Im not sure if it said that it will be send to admins for approval or something else. Should i re post or wait? was too tired to remember what it said
verbal quiver
@crystal beacon one of the mod's will be able to help u out with that
@glass swallow @tulip hatch @stable plover ?
crystal beacon
thank you mate
verbal quiver
np
tulip hatch
oooooo
crystal beacon
in alpha 1 phase 1 there are classes already right? so we should see some of the different class skills maybe?
warm glen
Anyone know for how long packs for alpha 2 are going to be aviable for sell? Because I'm low on money for now
surreal elk
Wont be in the BR mode, which is the part of phase 1 we currently are at during the castle siege part of A1 there is suppose to be the first 4 classes mage,ranger,tank,cleric @crystal beacon the phase 2 of A1 is suppose to have all 8 classes.
crystal beacon
@surreal elk thank you, then ill have to wait till next year for the interesting stuff
up, thank you all
tulip hatch
👌🏻
empty fjord
@warm glen We will be notified well before A2 access is removed from any of the packs
crystal beacon
well maybe im lucky and the disclose info about the other 4 classes earlier 😄
surreal elk
@warm glen Intrepid hasn't said anything regarding when A2 packs will no longer be available they will send out a msg to the discord and give ppl a few weeks before they close them off.
vapid kindle
I don't think anyone here can answer this, but I tried buying some cosmetics. Money transferred but it's stuck in processing for over a week. Ticket is in but it's been quite a while and they will probably cycle out. Should I be worried?
I guess what I'm asking is if the order somehow failed and they refunded me, will I be allowed to resubmit it and ignore the normal window since the error is entirely on their end? Has anyone ran into a similar situation?
Out of MANY orders, this is the only one to run into any issues. It's my pax bundle and a cloak. I have the paypal invoice confirming payment
crystal beacon
Not sure if this will help. I bought 6 games for myself and 5 copies 1 each for my other friends who would then pay me within the week(last day of steam sale) then i bought a mount and pet in world of warcraft, after i went on to amazon bought some stuff, and that night i tried to buy in game currency i had the same problem. Its probably not a server side issue, but a bank issue. IF you have been swiping too much today, or buying stuff online nonstop. Just a fraud safety feature. Idk. Just my two cents and previous experience. I just replied because i saw MANY orders. That might be an issue. Try calling your bank so you dont get declined at a drive through or cant pump gas. Just to get it sorted.
Did the money go back straight to your account or is it still technically on Holding
vale kestrel
idle bloom
Before 2020
crystal beacon
@vapid kindle did that help you out mate?
vapid kindle
Oh, I got an answer in DM. TY though
As for many orders, I meant I had done many with Intrepid but this was the only one to have any issue
crystal beacon
np 😃 hope you get it sorted out, that was my issue too a few months back.
oh ok, did you order them all in the same day or just over time?
vapid kindle
The money was definitely transferred so it should get sorted.
crystal beacon
ah ok cool
crystal beacon
😮 ok cool that might have been the issue fraud protection. sometimes it sucks* lol
hahaha forsure my friend 😃 hapopy hunting
HAPOPY 😮
happy* XD
@serene egret 😮
serene egret
😮
crystal beacon
😮
digital yacht
@crystal beacon there might not be classes in atm but there are various spells from different classes and weapons in so u can see, when nda is lifted some of the spells they are just tied to the weapon and armor that u pick up
clear orbit
does anyone know if/how they plan on rewarding players who play more/smarter than others? In bdo the scaling is potentially infinite and the end game gear is not really capped (well it is but no1 is walking around with full pent everything). Does AoC plan on having this same potential gap between hardcore and casual players?
digital yacht
found here in a QnA video https://aocwiki.net/TheLazyPeon_Q%26A_2017-05-09
proven arrow
There will be a gap, as all mmo's have, but there won't be infinite progression as there will be level cap's and they said they want good gear to not be just deleted once a new raid unlocks, so they will likely just have a massive amount of side grades.
cinder gyro
There will always be a gap in mmos between casual and hardcore, otherwise what incentive do the hardcore players have to progress?
Even in the ideal world where there are many endgame sets and they are all side-grades, hardcore players will have sets for different situations thus will excel more.
The only real question is how big will that gap be and the only answer is - we will see when the game comes out.
dense oyster
is there anywhere that shows the cosmetics month to month what they were?
dark heart
@dense oyster yes if you click on the history links for each pack you will see past cosmetic packs https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs
ocean forum
any news when the new cosmetics will be on the website?
dense oyster
When i did my upgrade (Intrepid Pre-Order Pack (Upgrade 3) × 1) it only lists that i got
Dünthol’s Forge (bundle) × 1
Ramstone Hauler (bundle) × 1
Vestments of the Runecarvers (bundle) × 1
Is this what it typically looks like or should i question CS to make sure i got the whole package?
ruby swift
Most likely a CS question, but realize there is a backlog of around a week for responses. They are really good with the financial stuff though, if you spent the money to upgrade, they will get you sorted.
dense oyster
Thanks @ruby swift
ocean forum
aah ty @dark heart 😃
crystal beacon
I just think about one thing and im sorry if this question is repeated. Imagine we are a guild that wants to improve a level 0 node and we reach node level 1, for example. If our node is next to a big level 6 node it will be easy for them to come, siege and destroy us. Will low level nodes have any kind of protection against this?
ruby swift
Stage Name ~ Development Time Unlocks~ Siege Declaration Time[17] ~ Siege Cooldown Time
1 Expedition Few Hours Node Type Becomes Apparent [18]
2 Encampment Many Hours
3 Village Few Days In-Node Housing • Freeholds • Additional Quests • Additional Merchants • Upgraded Crafting Stations • Player Government [19] 2 Days 20 Days
4 Town Many Days Apartments • Bounty Hunter 3 Days 30 Days
5 City Few Weeks 4 Days 40 Days
6 Metropolis Many Weeks 5 Days 50 Days
tall bloom
If you were a small zone right beside a metro would you not be contributing to thier exp by being inside their ZOI also?
hushed haven
50 days?
ruby swift
Summer...in the case of a failed siege, that is the cooldown before it can be sieged again
metro
tall bloom
yeah 50 day CD on declaring siege to a metro
hushed haven
oh, i came in right in the middle of convo, sorry
ruby swift
10x the declaration period
@tall bloom Once you reached the cap then yes. For example, if the zoi placement of your node restricts it to level 4, once you reach level 4, any exp generated in that node would feed the parent.
tall bloom
ok that you for the clarification it thought maybe a % went to the parent node as like exp tax but makes sense the other way
ruby swift
It is going to be extremely difficult for an active node advancing to the metro stage to keep the nodes around it from developing. For one, they are going to need trade and access to nearby resources in neighboring nodes just to reach that level, so surrounding nodes just from people going there will gain levels and develop naturally.
tall bloom
so wouldnt make alot of sense for them to try keeping the nodes in its immediate vicinity cause of the extra reso potential and the extra exp after nodes near them cap so should be relatively safe i think metros are gonna be the ones that need to worry abotu being seiged and not so much smaller nodes
done commenting here just about disscussion worthy thanks for your explanation
ruby swift
The only organizations with the resources to siege metros will be those with either a glut of resources or careful planning. You cant just siege a metro because it is there. It requires the work of several master crafters to make the banner, which will take rare components to craft the higher the banner level, and the fee in resources has been stated to be equivalent to what it took to develop that node. Think of the millions of resources potentially required to bring a node to metro and there is your restricting factor. People are going to need a good reason to do so, not just shits and giggles.
tall bloom
yep ive read that much i was more so just curious hove the ZOI worked for exp between smaller nodes
ruby swift
Hope it helped....we will know more middle of next year.
crystal beacon
Would someone be able to tell me when the open alpha will be available?
dark heart
@crystal beacon it is available in october https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
crystal beacon
thankyou!
crude hare
Yes alreeady buy all the preorder pack 500$ and i am alpha 0 and nothing
Thx
Oh ok ok
digital yacht
3k invites will be going out on Wednesday according to Steven
The remaining should follow right around a week after that
crystal beacon
How come I dont receive the newsletter that AoC is supposedly sending out? I am registered on the site
verbal quiver
make sure u have added community@intrepidstudios.com and contact@intrepidstudios.com to your contacts as well
crystal beacon
Yeah its not in my junk either. oh well
verbal quiver
here's their email's that they sent in the past, u can also join the mailing list that way https://us14.campaign-archive.com/home/?u=2406fd77c38de6911ad0d132b&id=6d9730c509
@crystal beacon
crystal beacon
tyvm @verbal quiver very helpful.
verbal quiver
np
light pulsar
Will there be OCE servers or will NA ashes have proxy server for the OCE players?
verbal quiver
for now there are oce/sea servers planned
light pulsar
Ah ok guess its better than nothing haha. Hoping for a proxy so i can play with NA friends with decent ping for once
verbal quiver
haha nothing's been said about proxy, but there won't be region locking so u can still play on NA if u wish
light pulsar
Yeah probanly gonna have to play on both for abit lol. Thanks for responding :)
verbal quiver
Np 😃
winter flame
If you buy a pack from th store is there anyway to buy the next months cosmetic instead of paying full price for the pack again
verbal quiver
u can buy the cosmetic's as a addon, no need to pay full price once u buy a pack
crystal flax
You can even pick and choose which ones you want, if you don't want all of them
idle bloom
We're expecting new cosmetics tomorrow @winter flame
crystal beacon
@idle siren Will we be able to choose in which hand we can equip a shield or weapon, It's always a little annoying for a left handed person to see my character fight as a righty
vague gust
o: I'd really like to know the answer to that question too! ☝
crystal beacon
you really don't see that often in games but it often bothers me so I really hope we will have that option
crystal beacon
ALPHA TEST NEXT WEEK?
digital yacht
On Tuesday thrusday Friday accorindig to Steven
crystal beacon
Ok, yesterday I bought the Kickstarter-Braver of Worlds-Upgrade, is it maybe possible to get in the stress test this week?
ruby swift
@crystal beacon If not this week, then the next
cedar talon
Depends on the amount of invites, by upgrading you are in the back of the row of other BoW
crystal beacon
Back in the row of all BoWs (kickstarter and summer backer)? Or only back in the row of kickstarter?
digital yacht
3k invites should go out on Wednesday then some time from Wednesday and the end of month should be the remaining 6kish ppl getting invited
crystal beacon
Ok thank you
subtle breach
Stress test still going?
still wyvern
Nope. Server's not online. We're just waiting until the next one shows up
subtle breach
Coo Coo. I missed these ones.
gray bone
Cosmetics today yes?
gentle briar
will it be possible to add sit emotes where the player is sitting on a throne in the future? Obtained from hard achievements dictated to that? Something like this. (Pic from MS2; RNG Drop for killing Raid Boss: Zakum & Later added to shop sadly) <@&257269635559194625>
vital rivet
Do we know if AOC will hace differents types of battlegraunds?
gray bone
You mean different battle royal maps?
ruby swift
@vital rivet There will be different types of arenas and battlegrounds, from open world to instanced. We have seen earlier footage of smaller maps built for instanced arena teams. There will not be just a Fortnite style battleground. It was most likely the easiest way to get mass testers in for server load testing initially, later iterations will have more options.
vital rivet
By fortnite style battleground you mine de can construct?
vital rivet
In a1p1 do we will hace basic skill por we can apply augments?
surreal elk
Not at the moment its only a BR mode at the moment much later in December etc we will start to test actual classes
vital rivet
How flaging sytem in PvP work in AOC?
dark heart
@vital rivet https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_flagging
quartz coral
icy island
Did they ever explain how servers would be set up, region-locked, pvp-pve-rp, possible number of servers? ;o
dark heart
@icy island yes they have https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Servers
icy island
Then what's up with just about every guild in recruitment trying desperately to recruit from every region? There not being a region-lock clearly allows it, but time zones man.
torn jolt
will we have these kinds of mini games in ashes?
https://youtu.be/K02_dPMtN_A
vital rivet
Best flaging system, bdo system total trash
Any knowledg on societis(thives, traders, religion) what they will do?
silent lantern
@vital rivet No.. You will have to wait for that information to come out.
stable plover
@vital rivet societies can grant crafting recipes, dials to adjust your crafting recipes, cosmetics, gathering tools, mount breeding certificates, they might affect boss availability / node building progression
ancient forge
Hello
With Stevens announcement Saturday that they are looking to add another 3k players this week. Does anyone have an idea on what the total number of players that would get Alpha testing to once added? I was thinking around 5k.
Please disregard my question. I received my answer 😁
silent lantern
@stable plover I am hoping for skill augments as well.
zinc mountain
@ancient forge I think it will be closer to 4.5K, based on the release schedule where we are in it now and the additional users. Seems like they are confident adding more users early!
gentle briar
@ancient forge I believe it was 10k players pre October
ancient forge
@zinc mountain thanks, that's around the same number I got earlier
ruby swift
The total number of A1 testers was capped at just under 10k so they could focus on a single servers worth of population. Later testing phases next year will have multiple servers and larger populations. The open for all BR testing later is a stress test to see just how many people they can have trying to get on at a single time.
crystal beacon
will Voice Chat be a thing? Like as a system ingame?
vague jewel
Unless i'm mistaken the first invite wave was 250 people the second week another 700 or 750 was invited next wave is planned to be 3k more this week.
zinc mountain
@ancient forge I thought you were looking how many players the next testing round will be, my bad!
cinder gyro
@crystal beacon it has been said they want an in game voice system https://aocwiki.net/Technical_Information#Voice_chat:.5B12.5D
ancient forge
@zinc mountain That is actually what I was looking for. Steven said they will be hoping to add an additional 3000 testers, so 4.5k sounds right. I was just trying to do some quick math
based on the number of KS backers and if the 4.5k is correct then I'm in!
zinc mountain
That is sweet! Hope you can get in 😁
digital yacht
Well it’s been 2 invites so far first one 250 second 750 third and the next will be 3k on Wednesday according to Steven
vapid kindle
Ah, but will the stress test still be under NDA?
spice ember
Probably
I believe we were at 1250 for the last round
adding 3k should put us at 4250
he may invite more and go 4500
dunno
vapid kindle
Some members of the "glorious Ashes community" seem more glorious than others. I must think on this
digital yacht
4K total we are at 1000 roughly
As we know so far next test will remain under NDA but after that it should be lifted if not lifted this week
vapid kindle
Not sure how I got into questions channel
trail totem
I have heard that each account will get one freehold. What does this mean for alts. Will I be able to access the freehold at all\
proven arrow
You "can" get a freehold, one per account.
You don't just get handed one
You share it across your account
trail totem
Can I change it willy nilly to go along with that characters crafting tree
trail totem
Sweet, thanks for answering
glass talon
Do we have some news about new cosmetics in the webstore?
mighty kernel
Not that I am aware of.
cedar talon
Steven said 14th or 17th. So hopefully today, don’t blame him though if they can’t make today. Teams hard at work for A1
torn jolt
Does full inventory makes you move slower like bdo?
lethal pollen
when your inventory is full you have to crawl on all fours
spice ember
@torn jolt don't think there is inventory weight per say
more like inventory space in the form of a personal backpack
so when out of space, can't carry anymore
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_movement#Inventory_.28weight.29
mighty kernel
There has been mention of inventory weights. That is why the caravan system exists.
@torn jolt ^
lethal pollen
yeah items have weight so there is a possibility an encumbrance system could exist
torn jolt
I like the idea of the caravan system, what I don't want is my character to slow down because of inventory
meager dragon
then carry fewer items i guess
lethal pollen
your mount will have its own inventory you can put things in
cedar talon
Game currency doesn’t have weight btw
torn jolt
😃
in bdo it's specially stupid because you need to grind for hours but you can't carry shit
ashes supposed to be the non grinding
as of what steven says
cedar talon
Best not to compare BDO to Ashes, everything in BDO is designed to make money out of
meager dragon
hahah reminds me of classic EQ. I had a buddy who used to give beggars like a gold's worth in copper pieces
crystal beacon
Is ashes of Creation full loot pvp ?
no
for real ?
What does Partial loot mean ?
That suck lmfao
no sense to flag up then lol
yea but % of mats
not even gear
so i dont think people will take that risk to lose gear if corrupted to get some % mats
humble spoke
Do you drop gear if you are not corrupted?
digital yacht
No
ocean falcon
You only get corruption against people not flagged for pvp
But if you are in a pvp zone be ready for the risks
digital yacht
I’m guessing, not 100% but gear will prob drop at a certain corruption level but gatherables can be dropped on death
ocean falcon
Yeah it really is the downside to gankers not pvpers
candid lava
Higher the corruption level, higher the chances to drop gear
ocean falcon
Yeah I wouldn't imagine it happening the first time you are corrupted
dark heart
@humble spoke only corrupt players drop gear https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_corruption
tall bloom
corruption takes a little while to build up
empty fjord
takes a kill against a non flagged player to gain corruption, each kill increases corruption
candid lava
I mean if I go on killing spree it's gonna build up quick
It takes a while to wear it off
empty fjord
and your pvp effectiveness goes down
candid lava
That too
empty fjord
so you will die eventually, it be inevitable unless you can hide and get rid of corruption in your own time
tall bloom
maybe be an inn keeper in your off hours lol and hang out in the inn till it wears down XD
ocean falcon
There is pvp and there is ganking corruption deters the later. I personally am a fan of the Idea
candid lava
Or you can just go to your stall in marketplace and stand there till it wears off, since you can't get attacked their
tall bloom
anyhow i think the question was answered for the most part if we wanna carry it on we should move to discussion before alluring gets mad at us
crystal beacon
it only 'wears off' if you complete a quest or die
candid lava
On the final note, I think that is only if you wanna get rid if it fast I think
Correct me if I am wrong
crystal beacon
Removing corruption
The primary means to remove corruption is through death. Multiple deaths may be necessary to remove all corruption.[13]
An alternate way to remove corruption is through religious quests. These quests are considered time sinks.[16]
It's not going to be easy or quick but it is probably going to be the only other way to get rid of corruption other than dying.[16] – Jeffrey Bard
Corruption duration is reduced in military nodes.[17]
digital yacht
U might have to die multiple times to remove corruption if u have a build up of it, yea it is the fastest way (that we know) there might be certain item drops in game or special npcs that can remove corruption but dying seems to be the fastest of what we know
crystal beacon
candid lava
Didn't knew that, thanks for correcting me
But you also mentioned how corruption Duration is reduced in military nodes
Doesn't duration apply that it can wear off with time
digital yacht
Maybe duration as in as if u are citizen of a military node u gain less corruption then a person not in a military node?
Level 50 kills level 10 gains 40corruption if he was military node citizen maybe he only gains 30? Something like that, unless it does have just a timer.. but seems lame
candid lava
Than they could have just said that you gain less corruption if you were a citizen of a military node
Idk
digital yacht
Yea idk lol all speculation now
candid lava
Yeah i am gonna get off before alluring comes online
charred ridgeBOT
torn jolt
Can someone explain me the hierarchy of the world?
I mean there's the Ashes world and then? metropolises? and then cities?
vital rivet
@torn jolt religions, guilds
dark heart
@torn jolt the nodes go from level 1 to 6. here is the info https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_advancement
vital rivet
We already saw kaelar, empyrian villages any plan con showing orc vilage vehk forma exampl
dark heart
They say that four races will be in alpha 1 stage 2 but they didnt say which ones will they be
dark heart
@vital rivet we dont know about the character look but the building looks are very unique
Here is one kind of Ork the renkai
vital rivet
@dark heart i mean buildings and culture
dark heart
Here is other kind of Ork the Vek
vital rivet
@dark heart this from first imagen very similar to asían people structures do you know whom they are?
plucky jetty
oooohhh the Renkai seem heavily influenced by japaneese architecture, I like it
vital rivet
Yes
dark heart
Yes it looks very japanese
vital rivet
So they Renkai
dark heart
The Veks look like Astec https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Vek
vital rivet
Big difference betwin two orcs races
plucky jetty
The Vek seem to have aztec and megalithic influence
Considering the difference between the two dwarf races, it's only to be expected
waxen quartz
Do the cosmetics change today?
Ok, hope they don't wait till the 27th... although as busy as they are, I could understand it.
idle bloom
barren stag
@vital rivet nodes 2 on YouTube has a Vaelune metro
rancid spruce
<@&257269635559194625>, will there be a Q&A session on the 27th?
winter flame
So I was actually hopping the store wouldnt change until friday when I get paid so I could get that awesome cloak. I hope it still shows the cloak when I log on to buy. I dont want to miss it by a few hours
vapid kindle
The time could be any point during the day, so I'd get the funds sorted ASAP
plucky jetty
Do Freehold skins have visual progression like a node would?
earnest trout
I went to go buy the 375 pack, but it would accept my Visa, my company says it is working on their end. Is there something that i'm missing?
wouldn't*
plucky jetty
Try basic troubleshooting; Refresh the page, disable ad blockers/script blockers, try with another browser, try buying something that costs less (you can always upgrade later)
I had the same problem so I linked my card to PayPal and payed with PayPal
ruby swift
@plucky jetty Yes from tier 1 to 3
vapid kindle
I use paypal as well through the site
vital rivet
Do you know if they plan global launch game At once por NA first?
If i constructor freehold it will be in my race style or in node style?
dark heart
@vital rivet freeholds arent locked to any race style https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds#Freehold_buildings
stable plover
There are plans for a global launch, but it's possible servers for additional regions/languages will be added after the main global launch
empty fjord
Release times between EU and NA have always occured in the past due to different publishers, I'd expect this to be the case for Ashes too
zenith jackal
any idea if they will be releasing artwork of main characters in the story before release?
@idle siren
Would love to cosplay a character on release
vital rivet
Woud be intresting if they do un future something like blizzcon
vital rivet
They said that there will be importante persons so i think you can do some cosplay
ruby swift
@empty fjord Actually they have said a few times now that one of the reasons they went with My.com was to guarantee that Ashes releases worldwide at the same time as NA and everyone else. If there was to be a discrepancy it would be a matter of hours, not days or weeks.
empty fjord
I hope they will release at the same time, I'm just speaking from experience. on launch day it's all up to my.com to be as efficient as they can be. it usually differ up to a half day between EU and Na
ruby swift
True, all we have is hope.
fading jewel
is it too late to upgrade my kickstarter package to braver of worlds and get access to the alpha?
white zephyr
No, you can do it
empty fjord
if nothing else the lifetime sub! for G's sake do it!!!
cinder bolt
I bought the braver of worlds package, but haven't received an invite to the alpha yet, am I early or do I need to contact someone. If the latter, who would you guys reccommend that I contact?
frank isle
Most likely havent been invited yet. 3k more invites going out this week for the stress testing
cedar talon
If you didn’t get an email you aren’t in, as simple as that.
cinder bolt
Ok, that's sort of obvious, and why I'm asking if I need to contact somebody. Because in the package it states that braver of worlds grants you access to the earliest stage of alpha (closed alpha phase 1) so it's not unreasonable for me to be asking this I don't think.
cinder bolt
Ok perfect
ruby swift
Nope, not unreasonable if you havent been following closely
this is a stress test leading up to your "earliest access" they are letting people onto the servers based on the pledge tier and KS>Summer>website packages...since you were KS BoW you most likely will get an invite this week, if not, definitely the next set
cinder bolt
I was literally just asking if I had been missed by accident or if they were possibly still in the closed alpha 0 for family and just slowly trickling out alpha 1 or something. I saw someone tweet about being in alpha 1 (the ashes podcast I think) which was what made me worried/concerned.
Thanks very much for the help
ruby swift
Nope, youre good. Just gotta wait. It will come.
proven arrow
The people who backed early and the highest money got into the earliest stress tests
proven arrow
My feathers are unruffled
vital rivet
Is there passive skills for archetypes becaus in pax stream we saw same skill anf they are all active?
proven arrow
The pax footage is of a classless battle Royale mode
gleaming eagle
@proven arrow 👋
proven arrow
There will be passive skills later on when classes are made
ruby swift
Nah, its understandable, it is just that people are starting to get the notices for that KS package they bought a year and change ago, and dont know where they are at in the process, so CS is flooded with tickets atm of people asking "Wheres mah stuff!"
cinder bolt
Ah, makes sense that people are tired of hearing about it then.
vital rivet
@ruby swift exactly i bought 500€ summer baker and dont know where i am )
ruby swift
It gets worse towards the end of the week when the emails for the current set go out
cinder bolt
Thanks for giving reasonable answers though, I understand this stuff gets tedious.
proven arrow
You an always keep an eye on Stevens messages by searching for him in the search bar
ruby swift
Cause anyone who didnt get one then wants to know when. And literally only Intrepid knows
proven arrow
He does regular updates
ruby swift
You want Steven8582....any of the others are no good
proven arrow
When you aren't sure what's going on
cinder bolt
I haven't really kept super tight track because I don't enjoy spoilers too much, but that will be a very helpful name to searxh quickly for me, thanks.
ruby swift
THey are spoiler aware...very little lore wise or what will be on at live is going to be seen before release.
War never changes!
cinder bolt
Oh, I have one other question which I think I know the answer to but just want to confirm- progress made in all of these betas and alphas is going to be reset many times, right?
proven arrow
Yes
ruby swift
Yep, and there will be a final wipe before release
cinder bolt
Ok good good
ruby swift
confirmed multiple times..there is no advantage to testing. There will be no soft launch p2w bullshit here.
cinder bolt
berry nice
proven arrow
Well, one advantage to testing
vital rivet
There basic lore information so nothing to spoil)
proven arrow
Experience
ruby swift
Which anyone can gain by watching a stream
proven arrow
Somewhat
ruby swift
so still, no p2w
proven arrow
But ya
cinder bolt
p2look cool though
crystal beacon
cosemetics for testing tho
cinder bolt
:D
ruby swift
p2fashion
vital rivet
No pay to advantage
proven arrow
Fashion wars is srs business
ruby swift
the cosmetics gift for testing will be given to anyone who has an account on the website, not just package holders....he confirmed that last week
cinder bolt
War is temporary, it comes and goes. Fashion, fashion lasts for ever.
ruby swift
Service brings citizenship. Ask me how.
ruby swift
nn
vital rivet
When they show ingame both orc villages?) realy want see them ingame .
Anything about pets do they will be like in BDO that they fil more like living thing and not like in wow something that folow you?
vital rivet
Will we have lore section un our interface like for example un ESO books menu or BDO lore section where you can read when you want every lore
crystal beacon
Scribes are members of a potential crafting profession in Ashes of Creation.[36]
Scribes can create scrolls or books.[36]
They want to be able to collect information about the events of the world as they see it from their point of view. For instance: Nodes leveling up, they want to be able to take that information down and be the one to distribute it.[36]
dark heart
@vital rivet info here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pets
vital rivet
@dark heart this wiki has more info aocwiki.net
dark heart
@vital rivet aocwiki has a very little info
knotty tiger
If new invites will be sent out on wednesday/tomorrow does that mean that there will be a stress test tomorrow as well for those who get invited?
empty fjord
test times will be announced to the ones invited with the invite mail
knotty tiger
Thanks :) good to know
mighty kernel
They were considering a test session for today (Tuesday) but that is still unconfirmed. It is more likely that testing will be open on Thurs/Friday again.
turbid kindle
Is there gonna be some kind of tutorial or a portion of the game prior to choosing an archetype to kind of get a feel for each of the different classes?
crystal beacon
they have not said
sinful osprey
Has anything been said about shields in AOC yet? Tank is generally my favorite role , and shields are a big deal to me. Seeing as this game has action combat, and conjugation of obstacles will shields be more than stat boosters like in most MMOs? I think it would be amazing if they could get shields to have supportive uses like pushing a frontline in PvP or stopping projectiles in raids.
crystal beacon
sinful osprey
Thanks XD both y’all
pliant sparrow
anyone heard any mention on boarding enemy ships during naval pvp?
silent lantern
Nothing in the wiki?
pliant sparrow
not that i see, the closest think i see is;
Hijacking ships
Certain ships can be hijacked. Trade ships can not be hijacked. The cargo on a trade ship will be similar to caravans in that the ship must be destroyed in order to capture the loot from its wreckage
silent lantern
i would consider this boarding.. how would you hijack the ship otherwise?
silent lantern
wtf
pliant sparrow
?
ocean forum
I heard that some weapons might be better for certain classes than others. do we already know what they mean with that? do we have any information about the "standard" weapons for each class? I´d love to play my cleric with some kind of mace and a shield and not with this kind of pole they showed in one of their previous videos :/
silent lantern
@ocean forum We have no solid information, but i'd imagine different weapons will drop with different types of stats and bonuses. For example wands and orbs will drop with stats that boost your spell damage and the probability of these items to have 'caster boosting' stats will be higher than having tanky stats like more hp or armor or stuff like that. I would wager the same goes for armors.
That being said, crafting comes in and saves the day. With the crafting system i'd bet you can put pretty much any stat on your gear. Only problem you will have is that crafting will be highly specialized if you want to craft the best of the best type of gear you go into.
So it will be possible, imo, to have a priest with a mace and shield giving you stats that you want or stats that boost your character's abilities, depending on the build you want
ocean forum
that´d be cool! ty for your detailed answer! 😃
tulip hatch
One additional bit of information, we have been told that some skills wont work with certain weapons so thats also a factor
fluid quail
So the phase 2 alpha coming up after the current one going on, that is the one that the 150$ packs get in? Invite to Closed Alpha - Phase 2 (Persistent Alpha)
crystal beacon
currently it's a stress test
shortly it will be alpha 1 phase 1
then alpha 1 phase 2
then alpha 2 (Persistent Alpha)
they renamed Alpha - Phase 2 to alpha 2
fluid quail
Kind of a slap, alpha 2 was marketed of as the Persistent Alpha in kickstarter
cedar talon
Alpha 2 is the persistent alpha
fluid quail
Alpha One Phase 2, is the integration of action and tab, with access only allowed to the 10k alpha 1 testers. This will be the persistent world, with class progression, node advancement, crafting and many systems implemented.
stable plover
A1 isn't 'persistent' - in this case 'persistent' means the servers will be up 24/7, Server uptime is expected to increase as A1 goes along, but a lot of downtime is expected with A1
crystal beacon
"Persistent" means that the Alpha-2 servers will be kept up all day and night until launch.[3]
fluid quail
That is not the kickstarter package Ivegotnolife-
cedar talon
You didnt specify which pack
gleaming iron
Does anybody know if there will be special prices for outside countries that have a devalued currency making 15$ a month a bit expensive in local currency?
plucky jetty
If A2 servers are kept up until launch where does Beta come in?
Separate servers maybe?
cedar talon
We don’t know anything about sub price besides it being $15. We don’t even know yet if there will be special packets.
As to beta, we will probably see different servers for those phases since A2 servers will be PTR servers later
plucky jetty
What is PTR?
plucky jetty
I see, that's interesting. Then will A2 characters be ported to Beta servers or wiped?
candid lava
I thought PTR meant public test region, well same thing
cedar talon
Yeah different meanings on ptr/pts. Same thing for all. And I believe all progress from A2 will be wiped when going to beta but don’t quote me on that.
plucky jetty
They're really putting themselves on a tight leash, A2 on Q3 2019 while promising a before 2020 release. If they manage that they're truly legendary
gleaming iron
They never promised that afaik
plucky jetty
Not literally of course
It's the current estimation for release if I'm not mistaken though
spice ember
spice ember
np
gleaming iron
I might buy the 75$ one then
It's a bit pricey for me, but I wanna help them, though I know better not to preorder
rich cape
75, 25, 300 they need our support, any amount is a good about. The kickstart already gave them a lead on the conception of the game
gleaming iron
Guess I will , I really like the concept
I mean it like 1 year only, I m OK with 2020 as long as it's goos
But I trust stv
rich cape
I side with Galeco, if they manage before 2020 they truly are legendary
Let's have faith 😅
silent lantern
@tulip hatch Yea, obviously arrow skills won't work with a sword for example 😄
plucky jetty
Since there will be flying in-game, anyone knows about plans for sky nodes or sky content in general?
burnt wraith
Unlikely seeing as flying is limited to special mounts
So the majority of players will not be able to do so unless you're referencing the ability the mage did
plucky jetty
Yes, mage shield for example has levitation. There is also a possibility of group flying mounts
burnt wraith
In that case 🤷
spice ember
empty fjord
No sky nodes, that would need flying, and they want flying very restricted
burnt wraith
^
plucky jetty
Fair enough, I like their way of thinking
silent lantern
@gleaming iron Intrepid hasn't really stated how long Alpha 2 will be, as well as the Beta's i think. They could be a few weeks long and go on at the same time. It is completely possible.
plucky jetty
If A2 starts at Q3 and stays until launch then the longest it can be is 3 months. If the launch is late December and A2 begins at the very start of Q3
Unless launch is postponed which is possible
My bad 6*
silent lantern
Q3 is from July to September btw.. So it could potentially go for 6 months if A2 starts at the begining of the quarter. We don't know that though.
plucky jetty
Yeah brainfart
rich cape
what does q3 stand for?
nocturne jolt
Quarter 3
stable plover
Quarter 3, July - September
burnt wraith
Any new info on summoner?
vital rivet
And bards
empty fjord
Not recently no
plucky jetty
A1-Phase2 will have more info on classes
reef prawn
yes
spice ember
plucky jetty
I'm thinking of going Summoner/Bard myself so I'll be looking forward to more info
Name chart if you're interested, although I don't know if it's up to date
rich cape
Is the starting class the vertical one or the horizontal one?
vapid kindle
Vertical
rich cape
Ty
crisp agate
aocwiki's got a pretty nice one that helps out with that, yeah https://www.aocwiki.net/Classes
vapid kindle
is primary archetype
crystal beacon
Scout sounds so .... weak
while the same combination but starting with rogue is an predator
rich cape
Maybe weak, but usefull for the game itself?
crystal beacon
ofc usefull, but that name :S
rich cape
Oh yh I get what you mean
crystal beacon
The Scout from TF2 has some of the highest value in the game at higher skill levels
Don't judge a class by it's title
I know, and I believe it will also on Ashes
But I still dont like the name
silent lantern
The names might get reworked, so don't get your panties in a twist...
lethal pollen
no they won't 
proven arrow
Most of the names have pathfinder or dnd connections, so if you aren't in love with a name you might wanna look into their tabletop name and see what they are all about
plucky jetty
People that criticise the names from what I've seen have a trend of saying some of the names are lazy
because many contain "spell" or "shadow" or a weapon
I don't really agree though
Even though many combinations would seem like they'd be similar, the names we have now make them feel specific. Like they all have specific roles. It's really well thought out and I can imagine the gameplay from each combination just from the name
lethal pollen
people say the names are lazy then want to replace them with generic trope names
plucky jetty
exactly
Like Song Warden
Anyone not familiar with RPGs wouldn't see the appeal
In D&D a Warden is a heavy spellblade
Similar to Witchers in The Witcher obviously
a Song Warden would probably be specialized in defensive and offensive song magic
proven arrow
Wardens in eq2 were also the druid
crystal beacon
Thinking about that logic, why is bard x fighter tellsword and not skald?
plucky jetty
a Skald honors others deeds by telling their stories
As I see it a tellsword tells his own story of how his fights go down, that's how he takes control in the battlefield
I could go on in depth, but to keep it short that's it
crystal beacon
Hm might be true as bards should not be buff bots, so maybe the distinction begins in the name
zealous merlin
I have a question. This game looks really amazing. However, ArcheAge tried a similar approach with the class system and I'm not sure many particularly cared about it. Are there differences between the two class systems that I am just not aware of? My apologies if this is a stupid question.
crystal beacon
yes
ashes you pick your main class
you cant change it
the subclass you pick changes your skills in some way
empty fjord
not similar to archeage in any sense
crystal beacon
it does not add new skills
you will be able to change your subclass but not 'on the fly'
zealous merlin
@empty fjord No? So you don't mix and match classes to make a "prestige" class?
crystal beacon
in archeage you pick 3 skill trees each with different skills to make your class
empty fjord
@zealous merlin no, you pick an archetype. and that's it, later you pick a secondary, which lets you augment the abilities from the main archetype
zealous merlin
@simple ether Thank you for that. That's more helpful, and honestly sounds better. I feel like that will add a lot of unique variety.
and @crystal beacon thank you as well.
crystal beacon
example: a fighter may have a charge to someone and stab them
a figher with mage secondary may have a teleport to someone and stab them instead
plucky jetty
It's also easier to balance than AA's mess
crystal beacon
but in archeage you would just have a battlerage skill and a sorcery skill
AA was actually pretty well balanced but that's not for this channel
empty fjord
and in archeage you have 12 hotbars and a whole mess of crappy abilities
untold ridge
is there any way I can contact Intrepid except website?
cosmic lotus
N
vital rivet
Any concept art of Verra world map ?
cedar talon
nope
dark heart
@candid lava they say fewer than 30 on bar https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Active_skills
candid lava
Isn't that a lot?
dark heart
Yes "fewer than 30" could mean anything with lower nuimber
candid lava
10 sounds about right and adds the strategic factor of which abilities to choose for a given moment
dreamy quarry
It's not a lot considering passive skills
candid lava
I don't have a background in MMOs as I come from RTS and teambased shooters, so I have no idea how that affects the game play but 10 active skills should be enough to kill any player, right?
crystal beacon
if everyone just had 1 skill called attack you could kill players
candid lava
By killing players I meant killing them just by using active skills and not primary fire?
vital rivet
In eso there 5 skill slots + últi and alot of skills in to lean for me 5 skill slot is to short
weak niche
You would use primary fire
crystal beacon
rts games usually have an enormous number of skills. each different unit you can create is a different skill you can use
weak niche
Some skills are high cooldown as well so
zealous merlin
@crystal beacon What RTS are you talking about? WC3? lol
candid lava
The RTS game I play is AOE series and they don't have special skills associated with troops
vital rivet
What skills is At q,v,c?
crystal beacon
i didnt say each unit has different skills. i said each unit you can create is a different skill
skill 1: create scv, skill 2: create marine, skill 3: create mauder, skill 4: create tank, ...
candid lava
I guess you are right
ashen obsidian
When does the 3rd week of testing emails go out?
glass swallow
ashen obsidian
TY Belle
empty fjord
Tomorrow if I'm not mistaken
plucky jetty
Do we know if there will be idle animations on pets and mounts?
crystal beacon
NPCs performing "idle actions" to make the world seem more alive has been discussed by the developers but is not confirmed.[4]
dark heart
@plucky jetty the quote of sebaer is here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artificial_intelligence
vapid harbor
will there be npc vs npc? if so, will they be in the style that they last nearly forever against each other, or will they actually fight and kill?
plucky jetty
Thank you people
turbid kindle
I hope it’s more than 10 skills, that’s really........small
proven arrow
The skill number is still in Flux as they are still working on balance. When they add in tab target skills we'll have a better idea of how many skills they want people to have. But yes it's leaning towards limited atm.
reef swallow
any cosmetics I buy from the store show as "pending" on my account page is that normal or will it charge me later on down the road when I'm not expecting it?
digital yacht
u should be charged right away
i have some as pending from 3 months ago nothing to worry about
digital yacht
i have some processing as well lol
crystal beacon
How vast will the character creation be?
valid oriole
Has the Alpha for Summer Kickstarters started yet? or is it still only open once in a blue moon so people like me that work out on a fishing boat for weeks without Internet are completely fucked from their $500 donation.
verbal quiver
@valid oriole currently in Stress Testing, alpha 1 is offically due to start in the next few weeks
digital yacht
there wont be a PERSISTANT alpha until Alpha 1 Phase 2 meaning there servers will be up only when they want em to be up
verbal quiver
mhmm mostly during time's they can be at the office, 👀 watching for issues 😃
burnt wraith
Is the NDA still set to be lifted this week?
valid oriole
Kinda lame how rarely It's up, I'm without Internet for 4-8 weeks when Im at work. And when Im on land It's never open 😦
digital yacht
YEs weis
burnt wraith
any set day?
verbal quiver
nope still in place atm
atm, it is stress testing Kolur, it's not the alpha 1 yet, it may be up more once it hit's that mark atm they are just ensuring that it will be stable for people connecting to the server and stuff like that
ruby swift
They also were clear that A2 was going to be the persistent (up 24/7) with character progression phase. They have now said that they will be able to have them up 24/7 later in A1P1, so that is just a bonus on top. So people shouldn't be complaining about them bringing servers up when they need and not when people want. Every stage along the way they have expressed that this was not going to be an "early access" testing, but a more traditional alpha and beta testing vs what Steam has perverted the meaning into over the last several years.
spare summit
i agree eastern ports and some western publishers have distorted what an alpha/beta are meant to be so they can sell unfinished products.
silent lantern
On the other hand.. Why even buy a package when you are out in the sea for 2 months at a time?
limber sundial
Cosmetics?
vital rivet
This week IS gonna invite KS and SB who paid 500?
digital yacht
Yes invites shoudl be going out today for 3k mroe ppl
notice i said "should" so its not 100% but most likely
vital rivet
Yes it from today to friday
When we choos 2 archetype do we inherit their utility skill?
dreamy vale
they said, the class change completely when you take a second archetype
(they will try)
vital rivet
I mean ranger can track footprints when i choos mage as second archetype can i open magical things toó or i can ser footprints only
crystal beacon
your ability to track footprints will be altered (augmented), so maybe then you can see magical flow / life energy and are able to track things which wont leave footprints
Today.. Aoc A1 still NDA ?
empty fjord
during the stress tests, yes most likely, but might be excluded
we can talk about our experiences during the stress tests, but we may not share visual content
crystal beacon
Thanks !
vital rivet
Do all races spawn in same zone or every race in their territory?
cedar talon
Same zone