stupid question, but if I purchased the package including alpha 1 and have participated in alpha 0 testing, shouldn't I have access to alpha 1 already? 
#questions
frigid shuttle
wanton gust
yes stupid question! 😄 NO! ALPHA 1 INVITES GOES BY TIER AND PURCHASE ORDER! ... o.o
frigid shuttle
okay because this confused me "with limited testers selected by order of purchase, and will include all alpha testers before the end of September."
wanton gust
next week you'll get the rest of the 1k backers all of the Braver of worlds tiers and some 500$ backers
digital vessel
Will there be dual sword in Ashes?
dark heart
Yes there is @digital vessel https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons#Dual_wielding
quartz coral
Where is Verra in relevance to earth?
modest sierra
a whole separate world
crystal beacon
in a galaxy far far away
ocean falcon
So my question is I did a pack purchase and did the intrepid upgrade later on. Would my access be on the upgrade purchase date?
grim venture
Dual wield swords 😍 😍
visual isle
Are they doing a September stream or are they not going to because of all the stuff they've released recently
proven arrow
most likely not
if they do end up doing one it would likely be half way through the month when they update the shop
paper girder
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meager matrix
Is there still a way to get "direct access" to alpha one still? Any package you can buy to guarantee access?
teal nebula
No @meager matrix
shadow rain
@night laurel When will aoc.my.com be available again? ❤
toxic bear
When were they going to invite ppl for stress test?
cedar talon
1st batch went out last week, 2nd batch of invites will be done next week
toxic bear
Oh okay.. but they were going to invite everybody with an account? right?
past meadow
hummm , , , soo i'm here watching a Bot inn archeage doing the minning thing. Has me wondering, what will AoC do too provent a full on Bot fest, like what happened inn A.A and in BDO
austere vault
Will you be able to tame a wild horse and force it to submit to your will, resulting it becoming your mount? 😃
cedar talon
Steven has stated that Ashes will have anti-bot mechanisms in place. How good they are don't know.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry @austere vault
past meadow
yhaaa, i'm very learly about the whole Bot deal. :\
austere vault
Thanks! 😃
silent lantern
@austere vault You can also check the #community-links for information sources and read some. It's fun
torn jolt
This place exists in the game?
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/images/thumb/9/9f/Ashes_Of_Creation_Swamp_Environment.jpg/450px-Ashes_Of_Creation_Swamp_Environment.jpg
and someone know how can I get a full resolution scale of this image?
cedar talon
The wiki should link the source too
empty fjord
contains forum link, client link, username and password for client.
and welcome this and that
crystal beacon
Q: And sorry if this has been asked already. Are those who did the Braver Of The World KS package being randomly selected for Alpha 1 based on their purchase # or should I send a support ticket if I have not seen any alpha download/code email? Or have those even been sent out yet and I'm being a nervous little bee? xD
leaden tiger
i'm Braver of the world KS package but still not receive any email
empty fjord
not random
you will get an email when you're selected, if you suspect you should have been invited check your spam folder to be safe
crystal flax
Braver of World's wouldn't have been invited in yet, only reached up to Leader of Men I believe
empty fjord
indeed
there were more kickstarter LoM and up than the 250 testers, and this is before upgrades
leaden tiger
most expensive packages invite first?
crystal flax
Yea, they went based off tiers
empty fjord
yep, then when it's between same tier packs it's backer number, lower first
random iris
Q. Can we forgo taking a secondary combat role in favor of a second crafting/gathering profession?
empty fjord
nope
random iris
empty fjord
artisan levels/points are separate from adventuring levels/points
random gust
yeah totally different systems
silent lantern
@random iris There will be a profession skill tree. You are not limited to 1 profession, but you will have a limited number of points that you can distribute to any profession/s you want.
teal nebula
in other words u can work as all but u can master one and it is gratefuel so :;D
silent lantern
@teal nebula Exactly. You can be a jack of all trades, but a master of none. It would be extremely beneficial to specialize in a single or maybe 2 professions so you can craft the best of the best things.
vapid harbor
will there be dragons and trolls?
teal nebula
yes
vapid harbor
and other typical fantasy creatures
vapid harbor
do they plan to keep content challenging for all manner of players, even max level? like scaling
because in ESO, overland content ( regular pve) is super easy if you have even decent gear
vapid harbor
well without scaling, games such as LOTRO if you want a challenge, you have to fight enemies like 10 levels higher than you, with barely any armor
just worried
do we know how the AI is yet?
glass swallow
Including statements that raids will be great again. Indicative of very challenging content
proven arrow
After speaking to Jeff and Steven directly I wouldn't worry about whether content will be difficult
glass swallow
Steven has on many occasions declared raids in other games to be sub-par on challenge of content
vapid harbor
another thing i'm worried about, is what will challenge be? some games consider one shot killing enemies with 7 million health to be challenge, where other games consider challenge to be mechanics that add to the complexity of the fight?
glass swallow
LOTRO is not a good comparative I do not think. Atleast in current scale. Think back to level 60 Dar Nagabund and scale even that up a bit
Or Helegrod at launch even better
vapid harbor
i didnt get that far in LOTRO
proven arrow
Jeff gave me an example of boss mechanic's that aren't just 1 shot mechanics and you actually having to think outside the box to beat them at times
vapid harbor
well i notice in ESO while there are mechanic based fights, they are also super unforgiving
pastel siren
Can I have a large tree on my freehold. And can I put a tavern in/on it?
vapid harbor
talking about housing, will players be able to start up their own shop or tavern or so and get money from players?
spring wind
Really depends on your groups dps for ESO, alot of raids can skip certain mechs if your group has higher than average dps
glass swallow
There are many freehold type videos available on YouTube that go over these housing system type questions. Should check em out
silent lantern
@vapid harbor go to #community-links and read. there is a lot of info about the questions that you asked.
vapid harbor
ah ok thank you very much friend 😃
dark heart
@vapid harbor here is information on what you ask, The answer is yes https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds#Freehold_professions
storm hazel
@idle siren In the upcoming store update will you remove Voyager plus package or keep it?
tulip hatch
👀 The package isnt going to be removed, they already removed alpha 1 access and lowered its price, itll remain there. When alpha 2 is taken out the prices will change again but the packs will stay there until launch
storm hazel
@idle siren You see that, Steven? It's Alluring confirmed, please don't remove the package. TY.
tulip hatch
We have always been told the packs will remain until launch by intrepid.
If they remove the packs people will lose the ability to purchase the higher tier cosmetics as well.
storm hazel
Makes sense, thanks.
lethal pollen
@tulip hatch did BoW price get reduced?
remote badge
What if have game sell?
cedar talon
What?
torn jolt
On what phase are they planning to open the eu server?
dry oriole
Will the player be able to build their home in game? As in collecting chopped logs and creating so many planks and have nails to make foundations, walls and roof?
dark heart
@dry oriole yes they can build their own homes but the details of what resources they need to collect hasnt been told yet so far as I know https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_housing
dry oriole
thanks
ruby swift
@remote badge I am going to translate that as "Will they have a game sale?" The answer to that is a high probable no. The base price of the packs on the website may come down as testing access is removed. But as @tulip hatch already pointed out, they will remain till launch next year at least otherwise the system of how you can buy cosmetics at different pack tiers would not function and would lead to rabble, rabble, rabble. Remember the game is sub only with no box cost on release. The only reasons to buy the packs at the various tiers is if you want to help support development, access to cosmetics, and participate in testing (there are also free "stress" tests planned). The sub as of right now will be $15 a month. Various packages give you sub time built in as part of the package. That sub time does not start until the game officially "live" launches. The game is not on Steam, and will never be a Steam title due to multiple strong statements by the owner. If you are waiting on something like a "Steam Intrepid Weekend 50% off!" you are not going to see it.
opaque fossil
tfw you bought the game outright with a KS package
charred ridgeBOT
nocturne sail
So uh, I must inquire.
This game is not available even for backers to play as of right now correct? Or is it? A bit...unsure and trying to take everything about the game in at once has been a bit overwhelming.
dark heart
The game is in stress testing right now @nocturne sail This might helps to explain it a bit https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
ionic magnet
The pre-order packs do change what they have in them weekly right? And if so, on what day to they change?
analog bay
Typically monthly and its just the cosmetics roughly on the 2nd of each month. But with all the events lately the schedule has been a little wonky.
tulip hatch
The next cosmetic cycle will either be on the 14th or 17th according to Steven
ionic magnet
Okay, and do we have any idea of what type of cosmetics will be in it? I'm just wondering because I might like that stuff more then the current stuff and I don't want to just go buying a Pre-Order pack right now.
tulip hatch
Unfortunately not, we may get some previews prior to the packs changing but until then theyre unknown.
ionic magnet
Darn okay, I guess I'll just wait to see, Thanks.
tulip hatch
Youre welcome
solid silo
since it say before 2019 does that mean it come before 2020
ruby swift
They have said repeatedly that they plan on "live launch" before 2020. When asked to clarify, they said that it could be anytime up to 11:59 Dec 31st 2019.
solid silo
i see
silent lantern
@dry oriole you can also check #community-links - there is tons of info there and will answer 99.99% of your questions 😃
digital sequoia
Good morning :). Anyone here who can help me with the forums / discord right for the alpha 1? 😃
dark jungle
Heya @digital sequoia, drop @glass swallow a DM and she should be able to help there
digital sequoia
Hi, i did last week but didnt get a respond yet
but then i ll will try again thank you 😃
ocean forum
<@&257269635559194625> do you have any plans on adding pretty dresses like wedding dresses or garment for light armor classes like mages to the shop? I´d rlly love to buy some for my char!
crystal flax
There has been a sort of wedding dress cosmetic in the past, I don't see why they couldn't add a variation of some
rocky bluff
Mooor costumes
silent lantern
@rocky bluff soom tm 😄
crystal flax
14th or 17th is when the monthly cosmetics will update
empty fjord
do you have a source for this?
crystal flax
Was said by Steven in #general-discussion
On mobile otherwise I'd grab a screenshot for you
There, decided to find it anyway
rocky bluff
That's not good for my wallet
empty fjord
Thank you @crystal flax 😃
silent lantern
I gots me a question <@&257269635559194625> ... Let's take the two different primary classes like tank and summoner. Both choose bard as a secondary class. Will they have the same secondary skill tree? Or will each class have a separate secondary skill tree?
teal nebula
@silent lantern they say there are huge difference between all the classes
nocturne moss
From what they've said the secondary class doesnt grant a skill tree. Instead it augments the skills on your primary class.
silent lantern
There is also a statement that each skill from the primary will have at least 4 different augments from the sub class you choose. But that doesn't really clarify my question. @nocturne moss @teal nebula
crystal beacon
Each skill in the primary tree has a minimum of four augment choices from the secondary tree.
chrome geyser
@nocturne moss that is correct
you only get active skills from the primary archetype, to read up more about how they've pitched augmenting you can read the wiki: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Augments
vapid harbor
Will there be a 'barber' ingame that will allow us to change hair style and hair color,cor will the be through cash shop
Also, do they plan to allow race changing, name changing, and class/2nd class chsngin5
crystal beacon
sweet gulch
I dont believe they were going to allow you to change your base class. So i would venture race is probably no as well
pliant sparrow
@vapid harbor nothing has been mentioned along those lines, but there will be racial skins, cosmetic items that make you appear as a completely different race
currently there is angel/demon, ice/fire
racial skins are not costumes
there will be character customization, your gear will appear over your body, ect.
ocean forum
need to ask how the testing phases will work again :/ so there were already many ppl doing the stress test, right? but these were only the higher tear backers like 5000$, etc.? do we already have any information about when bravers of world will be able to test the game?
empty fjord
atm only 250 got in
from Leader of Men KS and up
this week when the next wave is selected BoW will be selected
neat lotus
From what I understand they are starting with the 5k group then that group will be let in according to when they made their AoC account by date... Then they will work there way down the ladder by price bracket and date.... I think they will work through pretty quickly if things continue to go smoothly
ocean forum
aah nice! ty for your info! 😃
neat lotus
Hope it helps... I know it's no definite date but it's the process
empty fjord
Not quite @neat lotus it's KS first then Summer backers, then preorders. and it's higher tier packs first then by backer number
neat lotus
^
empty fjord
most BoW from KS should get an invite this week
next week all should be invited, but I don't know how many upgraded their KS packs or how many got summer packs
ocean forum
ye you´re right
bleak elm
@empty fjord I'm pretty sure the date you created your forum profile is also part of the equation in addition to your backing status
vapid harbor
So all gear will not be painted on the character like some mmos like doing?
empty fjord
@bleak elm I did not recall reading that anywhere. do you have a source?
modest sierra
Pay 2 play, highest tiers first, with the subset of when you pledged as determining if you get an invite
rocky bluff
I was a 1k backer and I got in.
bleak elm
@empty fjord nothing printed officially just from chat
tulip hatch
👀 the only use of the forum profile is providing you permissions for the NDA channels
hardy viper
I bought a founder pack during KS ( KS number is 1025) upgraded to bow last month? Will i be one of the first to get an invite or last?
teal nebula
@hardy viper u must check your email foulder pls there you see when you are in the row
hardy viper
Heiler email will most likely go out wensday. So cant check before that?
teal nebula
No only on this way
crystal flax
I imagine you'll be somewhere in the middle actually, if I remember right someone who got into the stress test was in the same situation as you, but upgrading to a higher tier
hardy viper
Thanks was looking for answering from someone like me or heard of one like me
tulip hatch
The majority of the higher tiers all got in, a good amount of bravers will gain access during the next wave
neat lotus
I know A1 is the talk of the Town at the moment. For anyone that may have missed it /are looking to refresh their memory / or are late comers /of the PAX discussion regarding A1 here is a link with the key points of A1 phases etc transcribed into an easy to read format. Check the discussion and other tabs for bullet format.
http://aocwiki.net/Ashes_of_Creation_Livestream_2018-8-17
crystal shale
I was reading about character naming and I see that there will be surnames, is it safe to assume race-based naming conventions will be released as part of racial lore? Any plans for a legacy function or does the current planned cross-character interactions make it redundant?
oak bridge
I'm not ready to buy the $250 pack yet, but will the Voyager Pre-Order Pack be discontinued at any point in time? I guess the answer to that question might go hand in hand with " Will Alpha 2 have a cap number of players?"
tulip hatch
For now that answer is not available but you can rest assured the alpha 2 pack will continue to exist until we are closer to its release day. So until Q2 of next year at the least
dark heart
Alpha 2 is expected to have 10.000 participants @oak bridge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-2#Participation
oak bridge
Ok I'm buying it now then lol.
Another question, about nodes. What happens one year after launch and all the nodes are like lvl 4 or 5 ? Do some nodes go down as others go up because people pay more attention to some nodes over others?
tulip hatch
Seeing as how Alpha 1 is at 10k participates im expecting that number to grow for alpha 2 and if they were nearing any desired capacity intrepid would inform the community well before removing the a2 access
dark heart
The nodes go up and down because people siege them https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_sieges
tulip hatch
aside from sieging nodes need activity and to be "fed" to sustain or else they begin to decay and delevel on their own from inactivity
neat lotus
dark heart
They want to get access to content hidden behind or below other nodes so they siege the larger nodes
oak bridge
That is awesome
blissful pagoda
Will there be 1 shot kills for rangers that zoom and hit the head? I ask because the zoom feature is similar to fps so i would think the same logic would be applied for head shots?
tulip hatch
Its been made very clear that in the actual release of the game they do not desire any one shot skills, they want combat to be a bit longer and strategic
At this time you are only seeing a pure action combat version id take what you see with a grain of salt wait until they release the desired hybrid combat
pliant sparrow
@blissful pagoda you drop items being held and you lose experience when you die...
meager dragon
I swear it being said that only 5 nodes could ever be max developed at a time, but I don't see it on the wiki anywhere. Did I miss it on the wiki, am I misremembering?
meager dragon
cool, thanks
waxen quartz
Is there any way to tell from any of the videos that have been released so far as to how many -in node houses-there will be when the node turns to a village?
silent lantern
@waxen quartz I think they have only said that there will be limited space, but don't quote me on that.
waxen quartz
Thanks guys!
vapid harbor
Will there be a hardcap on levels or Will it be like bdo
spice ember
minor oxide
That sounds like a challenge.
grim venture
Question! Is the summoner a real summoner meaning it will summon different type of creatures or is it more like summon things that give a area effect etc?
spice ember
oak bridge
Is there an official date as to when everyone with an account can login and play? I know Steven mentioned something along those lines.
spice ember
@oak bridge October, arena battlegrounds will be opened up to those registered on the website
oak bridge
Ok cool but when in october? Or all of october?
spice ember
Late october I believe
gray bone
Any info on how allied AI, like for example minions will behave in AoC?
dark jungle
^ yes it will be approx 1 month after the offical A1 launch, so expect around 3rd week of October unless otherwise notified
oak bridge
Ok 👌
dark heart
@gray bone we have some info on AI here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artificial_intelligence
gray bone
Just wondering since I would like to go summoner/x or x/summoner but if minions are braindead I might not
dark heart
The big test of the AI is coming up in horde mode in Q2 of next year. It should tell us how good their boss AI is at least
gray bone
Alright, thanks for the information
rugged cave
If I have a Founder Kickstarter package, does this phase of Alpha one apply to me with the key I have?
tulip hatch
No founders get into alpha 2
rugged cave
Darn. I assume that'll start sometime this winter or next spring huh?
dark heart
Alpha 2 starts Q3 of 2019
tulip hatch
Well with the way they want to go id say closer to summer
rugged cave
And that's the lasting phase that turns into the Test realm at launch right?
Persisting I think they called it?
tulip hatch
This all of course depends on how well testing goes for them and how development progresses
yes the persistent alpha that becomes the test server
dark heart
Yes it is the perstint alpha https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
rugged cave
Okay. Dang lot farther than I thought but thats okay 😃 thank you both for you help!
white zephyr
But you can upgrade your ks package, if you wish
tropic garden
Guys I have a problem with Alpha 1 launcher I need help, after I enter my Username and Password it say "connect ETIMEDOUT" is like this for 3 days now.
tulip hatch
Well the servers are down Life theres no tests at this time
torn jolt
@tropic garden I thought you're trolling
tropic garden
No
In this last 3 days I can't log in
Do they have certain time and days? or is just me?
torn jolt
You need to see when steven announces about opening the servers
torn jolt
Here on the discord
The next time the server are active again estimated to be thursday or friday
tropic garden
OK, do they have certain time for it or all day?
torn jolt
Not yet
tropic garden
ok
tropic garden
Wait I hope I don't get thing wrong there, I got promoted to "Alpha Stress Tester" on my E-mail. So right now is stress tests right?
glass swallow
yesw
quartz mica
how much does it cost to get alpha 2
analog bay
250 or 375 depending on which pack you want.
quartz mica
can u just buy alpha 2 or do u have to buy the bundle
analog bay
You have to buy the package.
torn jolt
@analog bay What's the name of the character in your profile?
quartz mica
ok
mild bear
<@&257269635559194625> As we have Group Summons. As we have Destructible Infrastructure. As we have Player Housing.
Will we see Godzilla vs Kong conducting aggressive redecorating policies upon our homes, nodes and castles ?
quartz coral
September's cosmetics ?
cedar talon
14th or 17th ish
tulip hatch
^
quartz coral
mmmhmm
past meadow
hum
if we bought a kick starter pack, with a alpha 1 acceses included, and we linked every thing up. When would we known when we're able to jump into the game too help out. Will their be mass e~mails going out ?
or are we spoze to send a e~mail ?
tulip hatch
At this time people are receiving emails when a test is ready and they have access
past meadow
humm , ,, ok, i'll keep a eye on my e~mail then, and leark about
void steppe
Will there be a chance for players to solo end game content on hardest difficulties (designed for small groups of 4-5). I play eso and I rly like being able to solo some veteran dungeons on hard mode (if theres no mechanic that CCs and another person is required to break me free) I know only a small minority of people are able to do this stuff on MMOs without a tank or healer so I'm not sure if ashes would cater at all to solo players for pve
tulip hatch
There will be solo player content however solo players wont be able to do everything group orientated players can do
crystal beacon
will there be a battle royale version in the finished game? if so, itll ruin it
dark jungle
Yes there will be a battle royale companion mode in the final game
wicked fulcrum
I created my AoC acc on the website. In the future I will need to create another on the my.com website?
crystal beacon
@dark jungle companion?
crystal beacon
thank ya
vapid harbor
will pets in game do anything?
stray isle
I don't think i linked my accounts right O.o 😦 will it still say i'm a kick starter backer in the forums like it does on the ashes homepage?
not on the homepage but under account**
stable plover
@stray isle https://www.ashesofcreation.com/account/general should have
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/dashboard/?idc_orders=1 should list your particular KS order
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/account/orders lists non-crowd funded orders, but might also list your KS
Page like https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/profile/Greypelt doesn't have indication of being a KS backer currently
vapid harbor
will there be writable books, or journals or so, within the game?
torn jolt
Were there any news from steven or the team about the next stress test and/or nda?
tulip hatch
no nda is the plan but its not a definite thing yet
dark heart
@vapid harbor yes there will be writable books https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Scribes
digital yacht
@torn jolt if u haven’t already been invited from the first wave the next wave is most likely going out on Wednesday keep ur eyes peeled
stray isle
thank you
i can't wait ❤ this is going to be amazing.
anyone know the size of install? i gotta clear some room for it.
soft yoke
Hi there, im in the process of opening my own Lan Center (+a lot more nerdier things) and one of the things that i will be having will be tournaments. Currently im in the process of making my own Tournament Bracket Software. One that will tie into the APIs of the more popular esports games and display results, run numbers, determine if someone won a match or not, you know the basic stuff. I was wondering if you guys are going to have an API for the game for these types of things. something like a REST API where i can simply query a server, get the data and then use it. I would really like to put AoC at the forefront of my tournaments. Thank you.
ruby swift
@torn jolt There are two kids of "pets" in the game. One is purely cosmetic and are not skins. An example of those would be the "cute small pets" from the Kickstarter. They are purely cosmetic and summonable from level 1 without finding the requisite mob in game. Then there are tameable pets, which have stats, levels, and in some cases combat abilities. Those are sold in store only as skins (mounts are good example), the base mob must be found and tamed in game, and if you have a corresponding skin, you can apply it over the base appearance.
@soft yoke They have said a few times that they are planning to severely limit the API. While you may have wonderful intentions, there are plenty of other bad actors out there that would use it in ways they do not want to deal with.
soft yoke
ok thanks for answering so quickly 😄
ruby swift
Anyone with a blue name that gives you an answer is just giving out what they (Intrepid) have said usually. The only official answers come from those shiny purple and gold names. So while they have said they have very limited plans on releasing the API into the wild, they could always change their mind.
glass swallow
All indications thus far is indeed for a very limited API
ruby swift
Ooops...and forgot our overlord AI...shiny purple, gold, and the ever dominant white name.
dreamy olive
@stray isle clear 7gb for the install. Previous experience has shown they send the emails out with DL info about 1-2hours before the test. Some people didn't complete download before test ended.
echo oyster
Wish we could have a good api which will really help with quality of websites we can get
dark heart
@soft yoke they have said they will have integrations with twitch but not sure how they going to do that https://ashesofcreation.wiki/User_interface#Addons.2Fmods
empty fjord
Will there be Cities within the ZOI of a Metropolis?
or is village/town the biggest they can get there?
dark jungle
Cities can be in a metro Zoi just not another metro
empty fjord
right, is there a limit to how many cities, or is it just that their ZOI's can't overlap? I mean two cities
dark jungle
No hard limit just the zoi
empty fjord
cool. Thanks 😃
dark jungle
Yw :)
empty fjord
btw, if I'm a citizen of a metropolis, would I by default be a citizen of the city since it is technically within the metro zoi?
silent lantern
@empty fjord technically yes, although it doesn't matter. It you are a citizen of a NODE, it means you are automatically a citizen of everything that is within the ZOI. Meaning, you can purchase property and put a freehold at some point.
empty fjord
cool cool 😃
silent lantern
it's like being a citizen in a real life country. Maybe with some exceptions, you can purchase property and build pretty much everywhere considering you get the proper documentation.
empty fjord
I wish it was that easy in real life 😄
silent lantern
@empty fjord You are still gonna need money in Ashes, sooo
empty fjord
Aye, I didn't expect it to be free. but you can't argue it is easier to get money in games than irl
unless you are rich to start with
proven arrow
Wednesday
dreamy olive
Or thursday
Remember last week login/ download instructions came out 1-2 hours before the tes
cursive hinge
If I dont have an appartment in the metropol but I have a freehold, do I'm a citizien of the metropol? And can I have a freehold and an appartment? 🤔
empty fjord
you can have 1 of each type of housing
crystal beacon
is the combat fun?
mighty kernel
So far - In my limited opinion - Yes the combat is fun.
empty fjord
it will only get better tooo 😄
gray bone
@mighty kernel can you elaborate?
crude oasis
couldn't find any answers to these questions, so maybe someone here can help;
1)Will each religion have it's own unique skill augments to reflect their deity?
2)Will a religious node's assets be determined by the majority religion that worked to develop it, much like the racial styles for other nodes?
3)Will relgions be able to declare war on each other / are the good and evil sides at war constantly?
4)Will armor skins be tied to armor types? Example: If I'm using plate armor, can I wear cloth skins?
5)Will we have a target assist key to quickly swap to your targets target, and/or an option to see who is being targeted?
thanks in advance :3
silent lantern
Will players be able to go 'dark side'? Instead of a religion, the player chooses to delve into the corruption?
glass swallow
I would hope so though it hasn't explicitly been expressed as being an option
neat lotus
I think on a steam they did say you "could" go down the bad guy road. That it would have it's own set of obstacles. But they didn't use the words "dark side" ...... Wonder if I can find that conversation....
bleak oracle
@silent lantern Yes , technically there are light and dark religions to follow
neat lotus
@silent lantern http://aocwiki.net/PvP , http://aocwiki.net/Ashes_of_Creation_Kickstarter_Livestream_2017-05-26 , one link references the idea of being "villanous" the other references evil religions.... You have to go into the FAQ tab where the discussions are typed out
silent lantern
@neat lotus PvP corruption is not what i have in mind.
silent lantern
Yea, evil gods/dieties. I mean, they say that some of the gods in the Pantheon started poking the corruption and became evil. I want me some too 😄
They only hint it in the information i have read. We will probably never know unless we discover it though. Jeff doesn't spoil lore 😄
cobalt zephyr
I read yesterday there were 3 paths, good evil and agnostic
In wiki under churches
mild bear
@cobalt zephyr I don't recall that ever being Steven confirmed. Without a timestamp I would take that as conjecture.
crystal flax
I remember Steven once mentioning that you can't be strictly "atheist" because the gods have a very real active presence in the world, but like you said you can just not follow that path specifically
(Don't have source, just recall it from a livestream a while ago)
hidden halo
Has there been any initial feedback from the Devs on the stress test? Did all go as planned, worse or better than expected? Were there lessons learned that they would like to share (good or bad)?
tulip hatch
The devs learned a lot during the first test and have taken the weekend and the rest of this week to fix the issues that the testers informed them of
hidden halo
Thanks for the answer. I was hoping for something a little more specific:) Understood though.
dark heart
@silent lantern
Wiki says "Choosing a religion enables a player to walk a light or a dark path" https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Religions#Benefits
silent lantern
@dark heart thanks.
mild bear
@cobalt zephyr Good catch. That was 'Bard' confirmed then....sort of. 'Its a darker path but not necessarily evil'
dusk forge
Any mentions of the science Metropolis having a possible ability to control or predict weather?
silent lantern
Controlling the weather would be a nice perk, we know about teleports i guess..
torn jolt
Last time I saw Steven saying the next stress test will be thursday/friday and someone here said wednesday, was there any announcement about wednesday?
tulip hatch
👀 no, current tests are still projected to be thursday and friday
torn jolt
mmmm damn
echo oyster
Don’t listen to anyone without a Steven confirmed quote
fresh fable
Gamepad compatible?
silent lantern
@fresh fable I recall the team saying there will be controller support, but you should look up the FAQ section.
graceful storm
I’m either blind or this question isn’t on the faq thread. But has it been talked about if any other languages besides English will be available for text and audio?
cedar talon
Text yes, vocals probably no since there are barely any vocals
graceful storm
ty for your answer! I also read on faq that asia/na and europe have been confirmed to have their own regional servers. Have they mentioned any hopes to expand their coverage, to South America in particular?
dark heart
@graceful storm yes they have considering this https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Regions
graceful storm
oh! what a nice surprise! tyvm!
lethal pollen
hey @idle siren was wondering if you could give some info about "The Wind's Veil" ship that's currently in the store. I am interested but don't want to spend that on a ship class i might never use 😅
hazy badge
Do we have a somewhat concrete idea of when the last of the people with Alpha access would be able to get into testing? I'm aware that it will be most likely this month, but I'm still a little hazy on the details.
dark heart
Yes it is later this month (probably third week) https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
fallow adder
@lethal pollen The items in the online store are cosmetic only, skins to be applied once you attain then ingame.
crystal flax
He means if they can only be applied to certain classes of ship, like in BDO there's skins for the rowboat and fishing boat and can only be used for those two types
dark heart
The ship skins apply to ship types yes https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ship_skins
crystal flax
In which case he's just trying to figure out what type of ship the Wind's Veil will be for, since he doesn't want it "for a fishing boat" like he says 
fallow adder
Ah I miss read. It's too early
candid lava
So when land through portal, we will be able to see the server map in order to go the coastal area to hopefully trigger a coastal node right?
idle bloom
Hope is the key word but yes, that's what I'd try.
It won't take long to trigger nodes so you'll find out soon.
candid lava
Only if we knew where the nodes are going to be on the map in advance
teal nebula
Hei guys i think there is no information at the moment i dont find some, but how we can spawn the ships ?
dark heart
You cant see the map until you explore it https://ashesofcreation.wiki/World_map
candid lava
They told that we can spawn ships from harbor I think
You can only summon ships from land and not in middle of the sea
oak bridge
Will the sailing be more like archeage or black desert?
dark jungle
Given the dev's history in AA, I'm assuming more like that
oak bridge
Alright good because black desert was trash when it came to anything ocean related
dark jungle
"deep" 😄
oak bridge
I watch part one and two of the node system on youtube but during the video steven said there was four parts. Are the last two posted somewhere else?
dark jungle
The last two parts haven't been released yet.
Maybe this is because of the focus being on A1 or perhaps they want to have the info available closer to launch for commercial reasons
dark jungle
Hunter is Fighter primary/Ranger secondary
Strider is Ranger primary/Fighter secondary
Main difference is that Hunter has the Fighter's primary skills and Strider has the Ranger's
This might mean that Hunter is less ranged focused than the Strider
No details have been given yet though
lethal pollen
real men do
oak bridge
So im reading about the pvp. I LOVE the bounty hunter concept and how if a red player kills a bounty hunter there will be no penalty. But what i dont like is when another green player attacks a red name, the red name is basically not allowed to attack back or they suffer more consequences. I think the system should determine who attacked first and if the green player attacked first they should turn purple or something
crystal beacon
wraith timber
Can friends help you build and furnish a free hold or only the account holder
candid lava
I believe you can allow certain players to enter your freehold
mild bear
I remember someone talking about employing house designers a few days ago, not sure if it was idle chatter or on a stream though.
hard surge
0/
gray bone
Ok I got a question regarding gear and gear grind. Do we know anything about how gear will be obtained? And at what rate? Like my biggest fear is that if I go and slack, I will fall behind everyone else gear wise and won't be able to participate in pvp anymore, since I get outgeared by everyone else.
crystal beacon
Highest tier items will be a combo of both crafted and boss dropped.[61]
The rarity of the items will be commensurate with the effort required to gather, process and craft the items.
Crafted items will be on par with best in slot items.[60]
mild bear
We dont know anything about gear relationships yet. If they go user defined and tailor made, how can you fall behind ?
crystal beacon
Very little gear will be account bound or soulbound in Ashes of Creation.[32]
gray bone
Well biggest fear is that it will be like in BDO, amazing combat, but utterly meaningless since 90% of your battles will be about who has better gear
mild bear
Well that depends how they do combat....which we dont have much details on yet
stray jay
I believe Steven, mentioned in a Q&A I happened to listen to yesterday. That they're striving for a balance between gear and skill. How it pans out? I suppose we'll see.
mild bear
If they do an skill based interrupt system, that returns any attack....by varying degrees. What gear you wear could be meaningless if most damage is incoming and little is outgoing.
So /shrugs
cobalt zephyr
@oak bridge will they make certain character with seasickness 😂
idle bloom
The only thing I care about with ships is that they work. Last thing I want to see is one of these guys (eq ref)
strong talon
Has alpha 1 opened yet?
digital yacht
not necessarily
they are in the Stress test Phase of A1 Phase 1 the next wave of invites should be going o\ut around wednesday A1 Phase 1 is slated to become accessible by all backers (Braver of Worlds/500$ Intrepid pack and higher) by the 3rd week of sept
glass swallow
*by all Alpha 1 backers
digital yacht
Good catch 😃
dire wyvern
What "phase" would you currently say Ashes is in?
dire wyvern
So by that definition, all braver of worlds should currently have access
digital yacht
yes and no they are doing a soft launch
candid lava
They are inviting people in waves
safe bramble
braver of worlds guys got emails
dire wyvern
i didnt
safe bramble
u will soon
digital yacht
they started with 250 then the next wave which is this week will be roughly 2-3k ppl then the third week we will see the rest
safe bramble
its based upon your pledge "rank"
the more u paid
the sooner u get in
braver of worlds is like the bottom
dire wyvern
so its another case of "false advertising"
digital yacht
nop
candid lava
No
safe bramble
no
safe bramble
this is like alpha 1 phase 0
digital yacht
he didnt want every1 in at once and cause the servers to just go dead with 10k ppl in
dire wyvern
Stress test yes thats fine, but doing wave invites for the next phases like you have just stated is not exactly "(Earliest Access to Ashes!) " as advertised is it
safe bramble
if you think this is the first access
there was alpha 0
braver of worlds didnt get alpha 0
dire wyvern
No i know its not first access, but kickstarter for braver stated earliest access to ashes
digital yacht
these were not planned HE said Alpha 1 Phase 1 will start the 3rd week of September which it will, it has not officially started he is doing STRESS TESTS
safe bramble
^
glass swallow
Ashes is currently in stage: Alpha Stress Testing
Alpha 1 is just around the corner with only a matter of a week or so to go till it launches. Alpha 1 includes Braver of Worlds (KS and SS) as well as Intrepid pack holders and higher.
silent lantern
@dire wyvern It is exactly Early Access to Ashes. And it is almost exclusive, because not all the people who supported the game get to access it at this early stage. Go take a walk and meditate on those bad feelings you got.
balmy roost
Are there any mods on ATM that I can DM a question to? Or are the mods all asleep?
verbal quiver
@balmy roost @tulip hatch was around earlier
digital yacht
whats the question some of us coul;d try to answer
balmy roost
It was a question about the Kickstarter package upgrades, and if they're going to announce a cutoff date for that, or if that option's just going to be removed without notice one day.
digital yacht
the announcement will be 2 weeks prior
is what steven said a whiel ago
he said he would give us notice before the cutoff
balmy roost
Oh, cool. I hadn't seen that. Thanks!
digital yacht
yep NP
@balmy roost most info can be found here https://www.aocwiki.net/Main_Page it wil lbe getting updated alot as soon as the NDA drops from AoC Alpha 1 there will be loads of new info to look at
balmy roost
Ah, gotta love it when NDS drops mean we can find all the info we need. Thanks again for the help!
digital yacht
yup
dire wyvern
@silent lantern Feel better now you added 2cents to a discussion that was already answered? politely go get 🦆 and meditate on why you felt nearly an hour after a conversation was had that you need to act out towards other members of the community asking a question as a backer which i am entitled to do so, unfortunately the information that is provided is not always precise/open to interpretation i.e the mounts that became skins on kickstarter. If you bothered to read the entire conversation it was stated by some that bravers did already have access and then restated it was being done in waves of invites and/or order of pledge rank and then finally stated that full access alpha 1 would be third week of september. S
stone siren
🍿
manic flicker
Next stress test out yet?
digital yacht
no
sorry the next wave of invites was said to be Wednesday but not 100% confirmed and the next test has not been 100% confirmed
manic flicker
What do you mean? I thought Steven said it was this week?
dark heart
He did say Thursday or Friday this week yes @manic flicker
manic flicker
Thursday, Friday not dates? Rightttt
dark heart
digital yacht
"aiming" not 100%
manic flicker
Thanks @dark heart Info from the horses mouth is all I needed
silent lantern
@dire wyvern You are not entitled to anything actually. You may feel so, but you are not. I am not arguing the entire conversation, but the part about the early access. I couldn't care less about your discussion about skins. You read too much into things.
Intrepid's statements might change, or they can add additional things to their plan (like that stress test everybody is moaning about). Keep that in mind for the future. People who have A1 access will get to experience the A1 at some point.
dark jungle
Guys please keep this channel for Q&A
silent lantern
Sorry, Lex
crystal beacon
Are you automatically entered into the weekly raffles for having an account, or do I need to do something else?
digital yacht
@crystal beacon weekly raffles ended a while ago
crystal beacon
oh, really?
digital yacht
any1 with a registered account on the website will gain access to the first part of Alpha 1 Phase 1 designated the Battlegrounds(battle royale mmo style) in october
crystal beacon
october 2018 or october 2019?
empty fjord
Don't know if it has been said, but it's safe to assume Alpha 0 ended before Alpha 1 stress test started, so no more raffles for keys
digital yacht
yes
empty fjord
well maybe for Beta 0
digital yacht
uhh no word on raffles for "beta 0" yet
empty fjord
there were raffles for Beta 0 keys together with Alpha 0 keys. but I don't know whether that will continue or not
digital yacht
yea we dont know if they are continuing
dark jungle
Lets wait until we have an official statement from Intrepid regarding Alpha 0 and the key drawings
burnt mauve
My kickstarter package included several mounts, on launch will I have them from day 1 or would they be unlocked when I unlock another mount
dark heart
@burnt mauve you get a basic mount then you apply the skin to it I believe https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mounts#Crowdfunding_mounts
dark jungle
They have duos and squads planned yes
burnt mauve
Is there any estimated date on when I'd be able to play I had the 425 braver of worlds
dark heart
In a week or two @burnt mauve
silent lantern
@burnt mauve If it has Alpha 1 access in the description - then in the next few weeks.
empty fjord
most of the KS BoW should be invited this week.
dreamy olive
350 backed KS at tier higher than BoW, over 2600 backed at BoW on KS... so depends on your backer number if you get in this week or next
Then of course we have those who backed by the IS site
empty fjord
KS first, Preorders on IS site last
and as I understand it, if you upgraded your KS pack your backer number was bumped to the end of the queue
fathom cape
Soooo, when will the NDA drop and we can see some phootage from the lucky ones? 😄
burnt mauve
Any news on if the combat testing is just single class based or dual class based?
silent lantern
@burnt mauve Most probably single class based because we don't even have all the 8 classes out yet, so there really isn't much point for dual classes.
@fathom cape It is supposed to drop for this week, but we should wait for an official statement. Last week the NDA announcement came out a few hours before the stress test started.
empty fjord
will crafted gear made for a level 14 character still be relevant to a level 40 character? or will it be useless a few levels up?
dark heart
They have said that gear is based on level. I think there is 3 tiers in Alpha. Tier 3 is level 20 max level gear. So it looks like the lower tiers will become useless as you level up https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gear_sets
open sierra
and i cant undearstand evryone talk different things
we will be able to watch streamers
trough the alpha1
there will be NDA or no ?
empty fjord
maybe on stress tests, but not on Alpha one proper
cedar talon
A1 will have no NDA to it
empty fjord
there is a NDA on first wave of the stress test, but it may be lifted on the second wave
abstract swift
I expect the second wave to be the third week of Sept.
glass swallow
No, actually there is indeed plans for Alpha Stress testing during the end of the week this week for round 2
ocean forum
do we already have information about the new shop skins?
ruby swift
The information is that they will be released on the 14th or 17th...regular day early Steven leaks have not occurred yet.
ocean forum
ok ty 😃
teal nebula
I found no confirmation of it, do we get dark religiin paths That can turn an hole religion city or section of it in an darker occult way ? When no one know some than this is my next question in Q and A ( ther shoud not be only good gods)
remote mica
so intrepid studio decided regarding the implementation of fishing boats?
remote mica
specific fishing boats. cos you can fish from a raft...
automatic or not
fishing boat usually have cargo space for hauling more fish than your inventory, or high sea fish etc
ruby swift
Well, we have player fishing with achievements and big game hunting like pulling up monsters and such confirmed. I have seen nothing on a specific fishing boat type. We know frigate and galleon for class of ships confirmed.
ruby swift
There was also a mechanic being kicked around by the development team that you would take a caravan to the waters edge, and through a process turn it into a cargo ship, travel overseas, then convert back to caravan. Was mentioned but never confirmed.
dark heart
@teal nebula there are dark/evil religions that players can worship https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Religions#Pantheon_of_gods
teal nebula
@dark heart that i know sow far sorry iasked the question wrong, i try it so ... Can a town or an section getting dark and creepy like the angle valley in harry potter( like some follow thw path of an darker god)
dark heart
I think that a evil god religion could be like that but they have no artwork on that so far @teal nebula
torn jolt
In bdo for example me as a player I had to do everything, things I don't like to do just to keep up with other players.
The question is how AoC progression is about to be, can I do only certain things or will I have to do everything to keep up
dark heart
@torn jolt not sure exactly but there are lots of progression you can chose from https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Progression
cedar talon
That kinda depends what you see as "keeping up". As of now we know too little of the game mechanics to see what is possible. I image being casual you have no issues by doing select few things, however to be hardcore/competitive you would need to do a lot more.
torn jolt
I don't mind doing a lot of certain things
but in bdo, even if you grind 12 hours a day it's not enough, meanwhile you need to cook and do other lifestkills
and be 24/7 logged on
cedar talon
That is for competitive play yes.
torn jolt
If that's competitive play
you're actually saying the actual skill
doesn't matter
lol
cedar talon
I mean in BDO gear >>>skill
dark heart
They say there wont be grinding in Ashes @torn jolt
cunning hedge
large guilds will still probs gonna have a lot of farming if they want first level up a metropolis
torn jolt
I agree
cunning hedge
but that doesnt have anything to do with casual play
torn jolt
All I want is to be able to duel with someone because I am skilled enough
I am not expecting to kill someone 30 levels above me
but I don't want to get oneshot/ not doing damage to someone with 2 tiers gear above mine
🤔
cedar talon
So you are asking what will matter in combat, we already know skill > gear. But that will also only be to a certain point
torn jolt
that point interests me 🤗
oak bridge
If i become a citizen with one character in one node, can i still become a citizen of another node with another character?
I guess another way of asking it is, “ is citizenship account based or character based?” And “ can we become citizens of multiple nodes?
crystal beacon
oak bridge
Thanks
jagged remnant
any estimate when this month's livestream will be? 🤔
cedar talon
no word on livestream, only shopupdate
jagged remnant
ohh i see.. thanks !
median kestrel
when is the next stress test for alpha one?
crystal flax
Tomorrow and Friday
Wait that screenshot doesn't say that, but he said it just before that
median kestrel
nda still in effect?
crystal flax
As far as we've been told, yes
crystal flax
Steven will announce if that changes
median kestrel
is there a main page for that or where do you see these announcements from him?
crystal flax
It's best to just look at Pins in Discord, or to directly search messages from Steven
If it's not posted in #news It's likely he popped into a random channel and spoke some
silent lantern
Question... Will the names of the classes be the final names that will be in the released game? Or are they just 'placeholder' and will (at least some of them) get a rename?
teal nebula
@silent lantern that can happen nothing is at the moment final all can change
cursive hinge
Do u can use ur ship to transport goods?
silent lantern
I would even consider having some sort of poll for each combination of classes to have 4-5 choices and the community to vote which more clicks with them for the class.
cursive hinge
Thanks 😃
silent lantern
@cursive hinge Naval battles and Krakens will be a thing!
magic pebble
Regarding Alpha One rollouts...it is by "Purchase order". If I upgraded a kickstarter pack to a higher tier does it go off of my original date of purchase or the date of upgrade?
cedar talon
I believe Steven said upgrade date
tame jetty
I'm an OG ks backer, is there any way to upgrade to get access to a1?
cedar talon
Who has the copy pasta for this?
You want to go into your intrepid account and from there you can upgrade to get A1 access
spice ember
@tame jetty upgrade to BoW from account page
tulip hatch
Go to this link, from there you should see the upgrade ks bundle above your name
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/account/general
glass swallow
tame jetty
Awesome! Thanks everyone. Also, any recommendations on how to convince my wife to let me buy the upgrade? 🙃
JK. JK. I do what I want.
JK. She'll kill me.
ocean forum
😄
wicked fulcrum
Buying Voyager Pre-Order Pack , I can get on the headstart servers?
wicked fulcrum
@dark jungle but "Access to Alpha 2" it's not equal to the headstarter servers?
dark jungle
No, different thing
wicked fulcrum
but has servers 24/7 until launch... I'm confused sorry :v
wicked fulcrum
ah ok thanks @digital yacht
digital yacht
Their will be a 2 day headstart on release but node progression will be disabled so everyone starts at the same time for node progression the heads starters get 2 days of exploring and leveling
wicked fulcrum
yes, that I know
It's a shame tho I would buy it now for headstart
@digital yacht Thanks!
digital yacht
Yea it’s kinda a thing that if they tried selling now they would get a lot of backlash
formal quartz
I want to know... how much time does it take to kill a player in pvp? like do players die fast ( like BnS for example ) or do they need time to die ?
wicked fulcrum
@digital yacht It's understandable. Thank you, once again.
dark heart
@formal quartz "Jason Wivart: So the time-to-kill - 'cause I know that some people it looks slow, looks sluggish; so the time-to-kill you're going to keep that pretty high?
Steven Sharif: I would say, it's not really high right now compared to a few games that I've played. It may get a little bit faster obviously part of being pre-alpha is developing those skills and trying to balance them very quickly without any iterative process or playtesting so to speak, right? I mean this is quite literally before our friends and family, so you know we kind of just ran with these numbers. I mean I made these numbers kind from my experience as a gamer and we just kind of put it into blueprints. So, you know it's working out okay. I might want it to be a little bit faster when it comes to kill times, but I think that's pretty close "
formal quartz
Thanks @dark heart
1 more question. If Alpha 2 is taking place at the third quarter of 2019 how the game is supposed to release before 2020 ? what about Beta 1 and Beta 2
dark jungle
Good question! The betas might be short phases. Or it's possible they could even run the betas at the same time as Alpha 2. Some other games run alphas and betas at the same time.
Alpha tests the newly developed functionality and Betas test more established functionality with a wider audience
But we dont know for sure yet which path Intrepid will choose
A clue to this is that Intrepid have adopted an "agile" methodology. Under that there is no strict sequence of alpha to beta testing.
formal quartz
Thanks @dark jungle
dark jungle
yw!
candid lava
Tulnars can live outside of under realms right?
dark heart
@candid lava yes https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tulnar
"Tulnar are not restricted to the Underrealm"
candid lava
Since the architecture of the nodes changes to the race it was most influenced by, how will tulnars architecture look outside of underrealm
dark jungle
That is an excellent question for the next Q&A
vapid harbor
Are there limitations to where a node can be built, will there be terrain manipulation such as digging?
Could we put a node on a lake, in a mountain, on top of a mountain?
dark heart
Nodes are pre chosen on the map not decided by players @vapid harbor
dark jungle
^
dark jungle
Player activity does go toward developing the nearby node but its location is fixed
100
at launch
vapid harbor
There can only be 5 metros, but can every other node be the next highest rank?
candid lava
But only few will be active and only couple will advance to metropolis
dark jungle
@vapid harbor the rule is that a node cant advance to equal the stage of its parent node. That rule gives a soft cap to the number of node levels that can be on the map
@candid lava yes
vapid harbor
So there's parent nodes then there are other smaller nodes that belong to it, in a, radius?
Wow
Auto-correct
dark heart
Yes the radius is the ZOI that grows bigger with the level of the node
vapid harbor
What is ZOI
dark heart
Bigger the node, the more smaller nodes fall in its ZOI
digital haven
zone of influence
dark heart
vapid harbor
oh ok
torn jolt
In one of the podcast steven joined and he said something about headstart, I couldn't figure out if it's actually a thing or not because of the noise in the discord atm
That's sad to hear
I really want to play equal to those hardcore people who bought the ks package..
It's a bummer
wicked fulcrum
@torn jolt I feel ya man
torn jolt
☹
surreal elk
Some won't even use the headstart server, you can always roll on the headstart if you wish when all servers open up as an extra challenge to catch up the 48hrs If you so desire
@torn jolt @wicked fulcrum
torn jolt
It's still bugging me, I am not saying they don't deserve something but a headstart is not one of them in this kind of a game <my opnion.
surreal elk
Don't roll on that server and wont be an issue lol
oak bridge
Is there anyway to get into a Headstart server now?
torn jolt
It is, I am hardcore no less then them and I want to play with the most hardcore people around me
surreal elk
That topic has been beaten to death over the last year, it wont change. You can still roll on the server u will be 48hrs behind lol. @oak bridge only way is roll on it when the server opens up for everyone.
oak bridge
So how many players are getting head start? Why did they discontinue it?
wicked fulcrum
@surreal elk It's not bugging me at all tho But If exists other servers better. I think ^^ But if my guild mates get the advantage I don't really care
dark jungle
@oak bridge headstart was a limited time reward for crowdfunding. It stopped when the crowdfunding ended.
torn jolt
How many estimated people have this privilege?
oak bridge
Wow thats extremely unfair, because people heard about the game first and -paid money(no p2w my behind) - they can get a head start
Oh only some?
cedar talon
some servers plus content will be minimal, no nodes will be active
they can basically travel and thats it
oak bridge
As long as i can join a server that doesnt give people an unfair edge over me that i cant control im good
crystal flax
torn jolt
Damn it. Now I need to try harder than I thought 🤔
oak bridge
Great so they can go gather resources without competition, but because it doesnt help the development of the servers, it’s not classified as p2w
torn jolt
It's frustrating me too but if you think about it after 2-3 weeks it doesn't matter
cedar talon
go to #aoc-discussion if you want to continue to beat a dead horse
torn jolt
I don't think there's a need to^
cursive hinge
@silent lantern I hope so, I love naval battles, doesnt matter pve or pvp 😉
untold ridge
question about server. Will they do like separated server e.x US#1 US#2 or have only one big server
ruby swift
Separate servers
Independent content generation on each
8-10k concurrent population caps
Regional
cursive hinge
Whats about inactiv accounts? They will deleted from server? Kinda like you have to choose a new server for your character because of 5months inactive? 🤔
proven arrow
Generally inactive accounts don't affect that
ruby swift
There is a mechanic for packing up housing if the taxes aren't paid. Concurrent means active accounts. They may have 20k people registered on that server, but only 10k active at any one time.
proven arrow
Usually the number of registered account's ends up being 3x the server concurrent.
If not higher.
And they have ways of moving inactive accounts on the backend so they don't take up a spot of more active players
ruby swift
With a sub based game it is much easier for them to track than say a f2p game.
proven arrow
^
cursive hinge
As long as a server cant die because of inactive accounts, im happy 😃
ruby swift
There will be inevitable server merges. Fact of MMORPG life.
Most games peak in the first few months, then stabilize.
It all comes down to the developers setting lower active limits that are reasonable. A server with under 1k active people wont be fun for anyone in Ashes as you need population to support node development and content generation. People will be more than happy to hear that the Gods have abandoned their particular reality and have said to enter the portals once again to find new adventures on an alternate Verra
alpine canopy
There wount be server merges
ruby swift
Source it.
crystal flax
Considering how every server is supposed to be entirely unique I just don't see how merges could work, imagine being merged into a server where the town you had built up over a long period of time doesn't exist
alpine canopy
It was on one of the life streams since every server is an individual world with did nodes they can't wount merge
crisp agate
Granted they have told us that systems will shift depending on population, so some of that will depend on how far that can be moved. But I’d imagine they might have to in some circumstances
ruby swift
They work if they say the server you are leaving is being destroyed and you have to start fresh on a new one. There are multiple ways that server merges can be handled. You on a low population server that needs to be folded into another, you are going naked.
I have watched every livestream multiple times and I have no recollection of a definitive statement from Intrepid that there won't ever be server merges. So until I see a timestamp and link, I'm gonna say that is extrapolation of desire.
compact crystal
People keep talking like events will have infinite outcomes, too. I think it's entirely reasonable for there to be two possible results (success or failure) to an event, and to then fold servers together that had the same outcomes.
untold ridge
How long until ks backer can’t upgrade their pack?
ruby swift
A: Steven: First of all, obviously our our goal is to accurately and proportionately populate our servers. There's a very healthy number of players and in order to achieve that goal, obviously this Kickstarter is a great start to that, but more importantly having that relationship with the community to help build our community with Ashes of Creation, so that we have a strong player base that is large in numbers, really will mitigate the risk in having to consider server merges, but I think that if we were to come up across that issue, it would be it would be a process that's both fair to each of the server populations being considered for that merger.
Peter: It's something we're definitely cognizant of, it's not on the back burner. We are always thinking of that in relation to how to move forward. I think the first step [in how to move forward is that] we're mentioning servers plural, so we're not thinking a world server, that's not in the thought process there.
Steven: Multiple servers, we're thinking a very healthy number for the concurrency, current server usage.
@untold ridge Steven has said multiple times now that they will give notice before stopping the upgrade program. Now whether that is days or weeks has never been defined, but notice will be given.
untold ridge
👍
compact crystal
Is there anywhere to get more information on the Phoenix Initiative if you're at that tier?
crystal flax
If you're supposed to have it I'd contact one of the mods, probably @glass swallow would be your best bet
tulip hatch
Indeed as jack wolf suggested contact belle for additional information and super special roles
compact crystal
Thank you both.
dark heart
Some info here also @compact crystal https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Phoenix_initiative
tropic wedge
Apologies if this has been asked before but I checked FAQ and Google and couldn't find an answer
It says you can claim land anywhere and build your player housing to build player housing it sounds like we need both materials and a blueprint for what you're building
Will players be able to make their own blueprints or edit existing ones before building their homes?
Say I want a large den, a kitchen and a trophy room downstairs with four bedrooms upstairs and a cellar can I customize my house in that way?
dark heart
@tropic wedge yes it seems there will be blueprints but not much details on that for now https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_housing#Housing_designs.2Fblueprints
crystal flax
Emails are supposed to come out by the end of today
crystal flax
tropic wedge
@dark heart Yeah that's what I read. Was hoping for more definition around the system but I guess there isn't yet.
crystal flax
Not yet that I'm aware of
tropic wedge
Thank you though
meager dragon
I thought they were going ot invite 2k people this week 😦
crystal beacon
alright
crystal flax
Maybe they realized going up to 2k would be too big of a jump for their servers to handle
idle bloom
It will be a total win the servers hold 200 people at once. Comparing to the last test, of course.
Not sure how much a server is expected to hold right now. Wait and see.
crystal beacon
@meager dragon Steven said depending on the results of the last stress test they are going to have 500 to 2k people so. Everything is perfectly within the limits
Better have the stress test working and actually fixing stuff instead of giving everybody the ability to play a incomplete game.
meager dragon
@crystal beacon Ah, all I'd seen was people saying it was going to be 2k, not that he'd said a variable. thanks
vapid harbor
Do they plan to bring a diverse selection of node locations?
dark heart
They say 100 node locations and a 480 km map + 100 km under realm. I guess those nodes will be spread out over that map
vapid harbor
I think they, said its like 11x bigger than skyrim
Well look up how ling it takes to reach from one corner to the next in skyrim then 11x it
Hmm?
warm thicket
Does anyone know if there will be any point in Alpha 1 where people who haven't purchased a founders pack can try out the game?
verbal quiver
yeah in a few month's they will open up the BR mode if im not mistaken to all registered accounts
warm thicket
When you say in a few months are you still talking about Alpha 1 or do you mean pretty far in the future
proven arrow
Says October most recently
verbal quiver
Soon™
warm thicket
Okay, thanks.
ashen obsidian
curious have the emails for this week's testing gone out yet?
digital yacht
no
unique monolith
Will there ever be an AshesCon?
dark jungle
💯
candid lava
When is the open Battleground testing?
digital yacht
emails have not been sent out yet, open testing the battelgrounds starts sometime in october
eager prairie
Hey there, if I have purchased an Intrepid Pack back in Jan, should I be getting access to Alpha 1 (soon?, should have already?) I haven't gotten any emails.
dark jungle
You'll get an email in the next week or two @eager prairie
eager prairie
@dark jungle thank you so much good sir
dark jungle
yw!
eager prairie
I'm just anxious and I really want to help build the #bestmmoever
(through what I can)
crystal beacon
Everybody here has to calm down, the emails won't get sent faster just because you keep asking.
digital yacht
or will they?
vapid harbor
Will there be bodyblocking in pvp?
So players could make a sheild wall of tanks in a chokepoint to prevent passage, also What do you mean for spells, will the spells pass through or collide with allies
gray bone
@vapid harbor yes there is collision
burnt wraith
Are skins available to get without going through the cash shop
gray bone
They said they got lots of customization
cedar talon
The skins in cashshop are cashshop only. However the game has similar quality skins that you can achieve.
gray bone
On that behalf, they also said that low level skins will not maje you look like a peasant.
digital yacht
@burnt wraith https://www.aocwiki.net/Player_Customization scroll down a quote from steven about skins and customization in game
dark heart
@burnt wraith "Equitable cosmetics, both from a quantity and quality standpoint, are achievable through in-game means" https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Skins
remote mica
Will EU players be able to play on US servers at release?
gray bone
Yes, no region lock.
remote mica
good th anks
gray bone
Also friend from alpha git 60 ping from germany to san diego. So ping seems fine too.
remote mica
san diego is california? ping is usually around 200ms. and that cant go any faster 😃
gray bone
I only know what I got told 😁
remote mica
ahh 😉
ocean forum
do we already know if there will be any kind of achievement point system like in guild wars 2? I´ve always loved collecting them 😊
proven arrow
Didn't seem like that's a priority
gray bone
Are there boob physics?
ruby swift
Yes, was confirmed long ago in a livestream. Look it up if you doubt.
reef prawn
^
leaden tiger
still no invite for Braver of the World KS pack?
crisp agate
Emails haven't been sent out yet
uneven veldt
Any news on server regions? I.e oceanic servers for us down in NZ and Australia.
empty fjord
other than planned for it, no. still a maybe as far as I know about self publishing in that area
crystal beacon
Is this site "https://www.ashesofcreation.com/shop/" the one where you would pre order the game even if you plan on playing on the EU servers? I read that their using a different publisher for the EU version so not sure if the packs will carry over on the EU release.
Thank you for your time.
digital yacht
@crystal beacon yes, if u want to play on NA servers, aoc.my.com is where u signup if u want to play on EU servers also I do believe u can transfer ur accounts by from the NA website(the one u linked) to the EU one.
crystal beacon
thank you 😃
digital yacht
Since the EU website is under maintenance for an unknown time(I haven’t seen an eta from my.com)
hardy bear
Any word on the alpha for this weekend, is it starting today or tomorrow?
digital yacht
Last we heard he said thrusday or Friday and the next 750 invites he said he would send out yesterday so most likely the invites go out today and we start Friday? Is my guess
But no 100% confirmed play time
hardy bear
Do we have anyone who got a confirmed invite yesterday?
tulip hatch
Actually Steven wants 2 testing sessions thursday and friday but of course this depends on if everything is ready
keen glen
Steven says they fixed alot so sound they fixed a majority of it
keen glen
But my question would be is the nda gonna be gonna today so i can watch some streams? Or will today be the determination for tomorrow or that test after tomorrow
glass swallow
All indications thus far point to the NDA remaining in place
And correct Shadow, i am not aware of tester emails being sent yet. i do believe there was an unanticipated delay yesturday
empty fjord
Assume the NDA stays until the proper start of A1
lament wing
Yip, stress test is under NDA. actual A1 is not
dreamy olive
@keen glen if you had seem a stream last week you would have not seem much.... 2 hour test. 1hr55 rebooting client after java error and Steven saying everyone re-launch and 5 mins of game play...
keen glen
Im happy with my ashes ASMR
silent lantern
Don't assume a lifted NDA unless Intrepid states it.
crystal flax
NDA is still in place for this stress test, confirmed in email
leaden tiger
everyone got mail?
tulip hatch
not everyone only 750 additional testers
bleak oracle
got mine 😋
glass swallow
Emails for this weeks Alpha Stress testing have been sent as of today at 11:27 AM EST. Please ensure that you check Inbox, Spam or Promotions type folders for an email from Community@intrepidstudios.com. Additionally it would be advised to add that email address to your contacts list to avoid any issues receiving email in the future. Thank you ❤
reef prawn
Belle being a bawss
bleak oracle
Am i blind? where is the Permission board? please ❤
crystal flax
A link to it should be in the email, if you can't access it they're probably working on applying it to your account
bleak oracle
Ah ok Thanks
verbal quiver
all the information u need is in the email, if ur unsure how to do smth reread the email
😂
thin heart
"This document will grant you access to our exclusive testing Discord channels and sub-forum"
Nothing in the NDA doc says that the link downloads has discord info.
crystal flax
Lower in the email there's a link to a forum
thin heart
is the discord info in the forum? Currently waiting on access to the forum which could take several hours it says.
bleak oracle
feel free to post in our discord permission board to gain access to our Stress Test Discord channels as well ----- I thought it was a chennel in discord my fucking bad jeeeees
thin heart
Same
glass swallow
Once you open the email, click the link to the NDA. Opening sends a read receipt to Intrepid to process. Upon processing, a list is generated for me to work from to provision Forums access. Once in place you will see a new title next to your name as indicated in this image. From there navigate to https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/40303/how-to-obtain-your-nda-discord-channel-rank/p1 and follow instruction to obtain Discord perms.
bleak oracle
@thin heart so apparently the link could take a while to work so we just gotta chill for a bit xD
glass swallow
yes it will take time for me to apply all perms
ocean falcon
Do we know if intrepid upgrades are factored in yet?
wet cobalt
lament wing
still no email 😦
vapid harbor
is there an NDA on this one?
cedar talon
Yes
fickle orchid
Hey all, I jumped in on the Kickstarter as a settler way back when it first popped up and integrated my account with their website shortly after, but when I go view my account on their page and look at purchases (was trying to confirm which beta I could jump in), it says 'no crowdfunding purchases'.....anyone else had this happen and is there somewhere to submit a ticket?
vapid harbor
.... ok
cedar talon
Ticket can be submitted bottom right of the website
fickle orchid
Thanks
crystal beacon
Did the A1 email go to my KS account or to my intrepid account
empty fjord
should be your Intrepid account
glass swallow
Emails are sent to the account registered with Intrepid
timid bone
hey when do the braver of worlds KS backers get their keys? the $500 pack
hardy bear
I got into the alpha stress test as a braver of world, but i was one of the first ones to buy the package. At $400. Idk if any 500s have gotten in
proven arrow
Only 750, so it's likely the bulk of Bravers won't get in.
spice ember
yeah I was a $400 and got in
crystal flax
All information you need is in the email
hardy bear
you should have gotten a login in the email
timid bone
yea im just wondering cause i still havnt gotten an email
so just curious as to when we would get one
tulip hatch
there are over 2.6k braver of worlds
emails go out to the first purchasers first and only 750 are invited
crystal flax
The 750 amount stated doesn't even get through all the early birds for BoW
hardy bear
probably next week or the following
instead of comparing $ amounts you should compare backer numbers
ocean forum
where do I see my backer number?
crystal flax
Either in the email you got from Kickstarter, or going to the KS page and looking at your pledge
ocean forum
ah ty!
torn jolt
Any news about NDA?
crystal flax
Still in place
keen zenith
So im trying to login on the launcher screen so i can agree to the NDA and download the game but its saying login failed user not found, but i am logged in on the website and I'm using the correct user name. Anyone else had this issue?
dark jungle
you use the credentials you were emailed not your website credentials
silent lantern
@keen zenith Maybe the servers and the testing haven't started yet as well.
crystal flax
Also I'd recommend waiting til you have access to the proper channels to talk about the test there
merry raven
Guys, when I download the game, at the end I get "Patching failed: code 12", anyone got this?
dark jungle
that is a known bug @merry raven they are working on fixing that
merry raven
Thank you very much!
keen zenith
@dark jungle Thank you, didn't see that above the instructions
crystal beacon
Some of you should learn what nda means.
crystal flax
Right? It's included in the email, so 
dark jungle
Please look at the pinned posts in this channel if you want clarity on what the NDA covers
rigid sage
How long does it usually take to get forum access after we get the email?
dark jungle
It could range between minutes and hours @rigid sage
It depends on the workload at the time
crystal flax
Belle had also said this in #community_helpdesk Lex, not directly in the NDA but just wanting to help people not do that
dark jungle
Yes that is just courtesy, not NDA related
However with a lag in forum and discord access there will be people posting
crystal flax
Understood
brittle stump
My NDA keeps disappearing help
dark jungle
Please be patient. Intrepid are working on resolving issues with the stress test launcher.
brittle stump
Ok 👌 guess it’s nap time 😴 till my endless nights of no sleep 😬👍
candid lava
How will they combat hyperinflation in economy?
Or any systems that is in place to prevent that
minor oxide
Inflation is normal in any game with currency generation.
candid lava
Ik but in some games those inflation turns into a hyperinflation
silk grotto
All it takes is some form of currency sink 
minor oxide
Yeah in games without sufficient money sinks.
mighty kernel
There is a stream segment somewhere with a more direct answer for you but I honestly can't remember which one it is.
@ruby swift can you answer @candid lava 's question with a source?
minor oxide
They seem to want regionally modulating economies, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if there will be a supply/demand system in place that slows down and ramps up NPC buy/sell rates based on inflation values.
candid lava
True, but player can just move to another node to sell where the demand is high
Moving back to buy that same product for low price since the demand is low and selling it for higher price in another node
minor oxide
But that would potentially involve caravans, and those might be a currency sink.
candid lava
Not if they carry themselves on mules
idle bloom
There's a durability system to keep local crafters busy as well.
minor oxide
Oh yeah right! Stuff breaks.
crystal beacon
They have a lot of opportunities for Currency sinks, the guard system for caravans, caravans themselves, probably vendor-only crafting mats, housing maintenance, etc.
candid lava
They also have an dev with PhD in economics right?
native crow
They've said that they took inspiration for the economy from Eve Online where there are no vendors, everything is player made. I kind of like that.
atomic lodge
Q: My KS Backer # is 16xx but I just recently upgraded to the BoW package. Will my access to the stress test be based on my KS Backer # or when I purchased the BoW package?
digital yacht
Ks number plays in effect but since u upgraded u will be in the last bit of the BoWs so invites prob next week
Cuz the 750 this week he already sent out
atomic lodge
Thanks..
merry raven
Guys, anyone else is crashing when launching game?
idle bloom
Game's not crashing for me. I can answer that much.
nocturne moss
If you got an email for the stress test they updated your account on the forums. You can either ask there or post your discord ID in the correct topic and they will update your role here to see the appropriate channels
merry raven
Thank you very much
upbeat pilot
Hey guys, where is the discord permissions, i want to see the alpha stress test channels as lm in it 🔥🔥🔥
empty fjord
read two posts up @upbeat pilot
burnt mauve
how long will the stress test be up for tonight?
compact crystal
What's the turnaround time like for support? I put in a ticket yesterday to get my PI NDA, and I haven't received any response yet.
crystal flax
@burnt mauve No word yet, only that it starts at 6pm PDT
burnt mauve
but is it like a couple hours or like a day
crystal flax
The last one was a few hours
But only a minimal amount of that was actual play time
heavy steeple
@burnt mauve It will last until someone finds a game breaking bug, or at least until the next day. <-- Kind of speculation.
robust marsh
Soooo no emails still? Stress tests still going on? ... zzso
tulip hatch
Emails have been distributed to the additional 750 testers
robust marsh
750 for stress testing though right
tulip hatch
Yes
robust marsh
Like we still have no eta on alpha 1 (offical 1 alpha) lol bit of a joke but all g
Thanks dude
tulip hatch
ETA has always been 3rd week of September - the stress tests should only take a max of 3 weeks according to steven
robust marsh
Yeah gotcha I just mean a lot of us paid for alpha 1 (which it is) 500+ USD to play with other testers it’s just a bit how ya going you know we all just excited
Can’t hate too much I suppose
grand forum
Basically, the more you spent, the longer you get for A1. Frustrating, but there's a certain logic.
robust marsh
Def frustrating it was a lot of money
ocean falcon
some spent less than 500 which I know I did when I upgraded and got in so when they supported they should have that factored in I would like to take part but if i need to wait another week or few days thats ok
robust marsh
Yeah agreed keep something in mind tho $500 USD for us is $700+ but I’m with you - long as they don’t lift NDA still all 10000 are in I’m happy
ocean falcon
If they need more time to get the stress test right I am ok with waiting a few days
robust marsh
Yeah for sure - kinda scares me that they aren’t ready for a messily 10,000 people but yep wait and see
ocean falcon
I wouldn't get scared just yet this is Alpha 1 and this is just part of the process. The fact they are as far along as they are is a good sign IMO and if they get ontop of this now that is good for the long run
grand forum
Hmm. Backer number vs. KS package level... Now I wish I hadn't gamed it at the last second to get a cheaper BoW package. I started around a 4K backer number, and ended up with a 14K backer number.
robust marsh
As long as you obtained that alpha 1 package regardless if it was braver or intrepid you’d be safe
surreal elk
everyone who has A1 access will start playing here shortly in the next week or so, (third week of sept)
glass swallow
Keep in mind that Alpha 1 has not yet started. Soon my friends. SOON
trim quest
alpha was supposed to start on Q4 so we are actually all getting in earlier, win-win
torn jolt
True^^^
opaque fossil
I hope the testing helps bring the Alpha 2 Closer as well
ashen obsidian
@tulip hatch next week should be the last week of testing for all alpha one backers?
tulip hatch
Stress testing should be over after next week then Alpha 1 can officially begin for all A1 backers
ashen obsidian
ok gotcha
feral drift
any news on if packs will reset tomorrow or monday?
tulip hatch
no news
vapid kindle
Sometimes they give cosmetic leaks, but yes, no updates on that yet