Return BLS Rewards Stacking

[smoky ravine]

As the title suggests, it used to be that you could collect both yesterday's and today's rewards together if you're past the 24 hours timer for rewards, just like DRS bonus and credit asteroid timers.

Now that's no longer the case for Blue Stars, resulting in people being punished for being late. Once again, the rewards should stack 2x so you can collect both today and yesterday's together, after a really busy day.

[blazing kelp]

makes sense

basically just how croid works

why not bls

[valid fern]

please don't force most players who hate bls into playing it

at least make it easier

[molten rain]

Wouldn't force anyone to play, would just help people who miss a day
-# Also you can't really make PvP easier. It's hard because of the other players, not the Dev.

[valid fern]

that is what im saying

[tawdry jacinth]

Except the stacking has been misused to get an “extra day” worth of blue star points for the BLS leaderboard

[valid depot]

Could maybe make the star fragments reset at 00:00 utc, and the other rewards reset like suggested

[blazing kelp]

people already give up a day to have a fresh scan for the next season... this just means you miss two now

[valid fern]

completely erase the bls leaderboard

it has too many issues, its inherently a bad aspect of the game

[verbal sky]

how is it a bad aspect? it incentivizes people to do well in BLS and the rewards it gives don't significantly separate players in terms of game progression

[valid fern]

the last line is just false though

the first line, yes, but to an extreme, where top leaderboard players are like all abusers in some way or anothert

theres too many ways to easily game the system

and it can't be fixed

at the core, there aren't enough players to ensure fair matches, nor neither enough players to prevent arranged matches

the preset rewards are good

[verbal sky]

I wonder if the problem of player counts will fix itself as HS grows. I know player numbers took a hit post-DN, but the reviews on the (new) app seem very positive.

[valid fern]

but the top 50 thing is basically rewarding the most frequent abusers of the system

[valid fern]

you don't know what you're talking about

[verbal sky]

Ohhhhh yeah, I completely understand that. I normally place in the 100-200 range

[verbal sky]

Tbf, none of us know HS's player numbers

I was BS6 before and after DN and there were cheesy metas before and after DN

So I don't think it's JUST player counts

[valid fern]

I do, even if I don't I know that its generally decreasing

[verbal sky]

Wait, how do you know HS's player numbers?

Andreas doesn't disclose them publicly

[valid fern]

methods

theres like ways, legal ways, but too tired to explain ngl

gtg for now

[verbal sky]

With all due respect, I can't form a clear opinion on HS player counts unless I see the actual numbers

Also, I know there's a bunch of cheese methods (like and ), but it's really not hard to counter these players if you know how

I play and I get #1 ~50% of the time, even against AlphaVeng players

[late pond]

Bls leaderboards are about grinding and sealclubbing anyways

[molten rain]

You could balance for the leaderboards, like, idk, only credit/hydro rewards stack, not fragments.

[stiff dagger]

ARE YOU INSANE?

[verbal sky]

Yeah, I get the BLS leaderboard is super grindy and there's cheese tactics, but I agree that the BLS leaderboard should continue to exist in some form or another because you don't need to care about the BLS leaderboard.

Placing on top of the Leaderboard, gives you at most $5 of Crystals and a cosmetic Distinction. The only functional part of BLS that people need to care about are the rewards. The BLS fragments to getting free guaranteed Crystals are very low and extremely doable by almost anyone, and if you want the 600 Crystals by placing high in the leaderboard, there's little difference between that and paying $5.

[smoky ravine]

Of course we have to care, crystals don't grow on trees. And with how dastardly it is to upgrade anything, every crystal counts!

[verbal sky]

You're guaranteed 200 if you get 600 Fragments in a season (avg. 20 Fragments/day), or 100 if you get 400 Fragments (14 Fragments/day). The 400 Fragment threshold is very doable, since that means you just need to get 3rd place or better consistently to get that reward. That adds up over time. I spent all of HS and almost all of DN without using Crystals for upgrades.

Granted, I'm quite good at BLS (though my modules are pretty under-leveled compared to most people I face), so my perspective is certainly biased, but I do think that even someone who isn't very good at BLS can still consistently get the guaranteed rewards each month.

[smoky ravine]

That is not going to be everyone

[smoky ravine]

It's not impossible but frustrating, not enjoyable for many. Some of my teammates don't play it at all, and I'm tiring of it as well

Think about it, when was the last time you saw a lone BS emp you?

[verbal sky]

I forgot until you mentioned it that Lone Battleships have EMP lol

[smoky ravine]

It's nothing more than just a waste of time these days

[verbal sky]

BLS is actually my favorite game mode lol

[smoky ravine]

Either make things functional or get rid of it. But I suppose that's not the point of this post

[verbal sky]

Riiiight, I scrolled up and realized the convo kinda got sidetracked lol.

Kinda forgot what the OG thing was about.

[smoky ravine]

It's nonsensical why RS, croid timers are still intact and BLS' isn't working

Incoherent design choices that don't make sense whatsoever

[verbal sky]

I agree there. At least make it consistent, or explain the discrepancy somewhere in game.

[valid fern]

th you mean

been playinh the game for 4 years now, the bls leaderboard encourages abuse and rewards abusers '

[valid fern]

^

[valid fern]

also, btw, the numbers on desktop/steam are posted. Number of WS every week is posted, and at the end of the bls season - you can use an account with 3-15 bls points, and see how many players are ranked above you. Someone who doesnt do even a single Bls, probably doesnt play the game altogether. At least, that also proves specifically that the number of BLS players are decreasing, because if iirc it is, at a faster rate compared to like WS

[verbal sky]

Oh, thanks! Dunno why the previous guy tried to say "Reasons" without clarification like it was a CIA secret lol.

[valid fern]

it was me, had to go at the time.......

[verbal sky]

Ohhhhhhh

nws!

[blazing kelp]

cries in avg of 4th

-# not really idk my avg but like whales are really annoying

[late pond]

It was you conscious decision to try having fun instead of the meta

Nothing personal, whales need 16 tons of plankton a day

[blazing kelp]

im not plankton

im spiky planton :p

[stiff dagger]

THEN I HOPE ABUSERS LIKE YOU BE BANNERD

[valid fern]

You good? What's up man. What you wanna do

[stiff dagger]

you are reward absuser. you will ban

@valid fern can bots steal artifacts from quantum star?

[valid fern]

ayo, andreas - is this guy with you?

cuz unless you aint, I gon do whatever I want

I aint no abuser, thats fs

[stiff dagger]

can we

[valid fern]

can we kiss? OMG Yes, 😍 ❣️

[stiff dagger]

@feral pumice @pulsar forge

@feral pumice @pulsar forge

@feral pumice @pulsar forge

[valid fern]

Honey can't you see, you are made for me! your name is already chaotic!

Mods, Idk why this ugy is pinging you fr

[stiff dagger]

@feral pumice @pulsar forge @feral pumice @pulsar forge

HELP ME

IM BEING HELD

!MOD

[valid fern]

Im just playinh with him, idk why he's pinging you guys

[stiff dagger]

ILL PLAY WITH YOU

[valid fern]

should probably take this to off topic

to Rob, and Leo, I actually don't know this person. Just pinged me out of nowhere, I played along, but I mean, love at first sight right? 🤣

[pulsar forge]

!MOD

Someone call the mods he doesn't understnd sarcasm

@stiff dagger I would appreciate if you stopped making clueless comments and and getting ragebaited. Your contributions are not constructive.

@valid fern neither are yours btw. Please stop using sarcasm around them, they clearly don't understand it.

[valid fern]

yeah, my apologies. Should've probably moved things to off topic at the start, I just said some words I thought were funny since it seemed like they were playing around as well

[pulsar forge]

All good. But please keep rule 6 in mind.

[valid fern]

oh I didn't consider of trolling back, thought they were just tryna be funny or some

but nvm me tho

[ruby verge]

Yeah some days I miss it and especially in early game its kinda a critical source of credits.

[verbal sky]

Looking at your post history...do you need help?

This is a serious question.

[smoky ravine]

Lol

[stiff dagger]

me doesnt need the helping thakn youvery