Shield amplifier

[humble wasp]

but blue
-# no effect on alpha, probably no effect on motion cuz idk how that would work

[fluid pilot]

Just increase motion by %

[humble wasp]

oh yeah

wait

samp would be ridiculous lol

samp? shamp?

[woven dagger]

Yeah this (edit: as in: Shield Amplifier) just reads like Suspend where Suspend has the added function of enhancing hull and slowing opponent ship speeds.

[fluid pilot]

Shrimp

[humble wasp]

?

[woven dagger]

"This" = Shield Amplifier. I'll edit my last for clarity.

[humble wasp]

shrimp reads like suspend? i mean i can see how its similar

ig shrimp would allow for higher multipliers since it only affects shield and not overral damage

-# this is totally not for mirror with more shield strength nono i would never

[stray warren]

What exactly will the shield amplifier be amplifying?

[humble wasp]

shield?

its a shield

like theres only one thing to amplify

[humble wasp]

although it might be pro-turtle in ws .-.

[fluid pilot]

Sh(shield) rimp(is just mixed up letters from amplifier)

Should be a drone slot though then it really is a shrimp

Need mas dronos

[humble wasp]

lol

[fluid pilot]

But ws has lots of blast and ally and floating shield. Not saying its a bad idea for module because honestly triple leap would probably still take out x2 blast 12 maybe idk how much its boosting shield but if its a drone the leap would destroy it anyway?

[humble wasp]

hm

[fluid pilot]

Would be more usable in bls for sure with mirror tho or impulse

[humble wasp]

heh

[fluid pilot]

Or less explosive environments

[humble wasp]

i wonder why i made this suggestion

-# cough cough

[fluid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/andreaaa-andrea-andreatota-gif-14629935425997626630

Add more random shit to the game 🙃

cerberus drone

[elfin flame]

Here i was hoping for more mirror or impulse damage, but no, just more shield..

[humble wasp]

ah like that

sure ig but i thought that would be too much

[fluid pilot]

But if you have more hp the damage lasts longer or effect of mirror/impulse

Mix it with suspend it'll last a tiny tiny bit longer

Or emp

[daring sluice]

Wamp buffing mirror would be pretty cool- anything buffing mirror would be cool ig

[humble wasp]

well not really for impulse since its damage is a flat 10*impulse dps

but for mirror, buffing the shield strength is also buffing the damage so i didnt think it would be necessary to add onto that

[woven dagger]

Do you happen to know the order of how works now, not preDN. Does it reflect damage before is counted for depleting its hitpoints?

[humble wasp]

wdym

mirror reflects damage taken

not potential damage

aight basically
assume susp is -50% dmg
ebs with 200dps
mirror with 2k strength

ebs shoots, susp takes 50%, 100dps
mirror takes 100dps over 2 seconds, reflects 100*6 (x2 from 2 seconds, x3 from 300% reflect)=600 damage

[woven dagger]

So, decreases "reflected" damage because it decreases the weapon stats, right sorry took me a moment to even recall how that worked.

[humble wasp]

exactly

[woven dagger]

Foe a monent I forgot affects weapons, it's not like 🤦

[humble wasp]

mmhm

[daring sluice]

Well Mirror USED to get up to double what it does across the board now- at least then it did what it was supposed to

^^Js amping the damage was the original idea. With how the meta is now you could absolutely excuse both being an option

[fluid pilot]

Ik but you can take more damage so it lasts longer 😂

While in combat not just turning it on

[humble wasp]

iirc it also didnt do as much damage

but idk i never used it pre dn

[stray warren]

It was returning up to 36% of incoming damage

[humble wasp]

36% vs 300%?

[stray warren]

With unlimited range and no delay

[humble wasp]

well range is nice but delay doesnt change much

[stray warren]

And the damage was direct, so it fully countered the old blast + stealth combo for vengeance

[humble wasp]

mm well we dont see much blast now except in ws

[stray warren]

Blast could have been a meme, but we have barrier damage

[humble wasp]

, the reason we cant have fun things

-# in pvp of course

[humble wasp]

thought about it a bit, itd probably be ok for this in pve but likely not pvp

mirror and impulse already do a decent amount of damage in pvp

its just their survivability

[stray warren]

What does a game, where positioning is extremely important, because weapon ranges are hard capped and you can't switch target willingly? A module that stops all movement in a large radius, of course

And then slap a chain ray weapon that is longer range than most other weapons on top of that

[humble wasp]

and with a game mode where you need to be moving because instant death is inevitably closing in forcing you with other players

ok barrier rant over

[stray warren]

Sometimes, Andres' genius is almost frightening

[stray warren]

And also a module, that allows you to move enemy ships for an absurd period of time, so the instant death zone becomes even more oppressive

[humble wasp]

and make it override the previous module that stops movement cause why not

[stray warren]

But don't worry, it can be countered by all 60 modules in the game, so it's fine just play better

[humble wasp]

okok fr lets get back on topic lmao

[humble wasp]

with just 3x shield amp, mirror 11 does 22k damage which is basically a mini veng

although ill admit 3x is pretty big

[stray warren]

At least, you'll have hp after landing into barrier

[humble wasp]

7500 shield and 8000 hull (15,500 total) vs barrier 12 with 12,000 tp damage

barely live

[stray warren]

That's rs damage

[humble wasp]

assuming 3x and mirror 11

[stray warren]

In PvP it's 7k

[humble wasp]

oh

thats dumb

what teleport damage are you getting in rs lmao

ok yeah 7k, way more manageable

[stray warren]

Carrier

[humble wasp]

huh... so its kinda just barrier 12-15 that are truly evil

<11 you can kinda tank although its still really stupid

well then

i do have a question: should shield amp affect all shields in range or only the user

by wamp logic itd be all

[stray warren]

How exactly will it add hp to shields? By just multiplying current and max hp?

[humble wasp]

yeah thats what i was thinking

then if it runs out it'll divide total and current hp

[stray warren]

That's prime sphagetti code territory

[humble wasp]

is it?

well what other ways are there?

[stray warren]

Probably, none

[humble wasp]

nice

how does wamp do it i wonder

also, thinking of a max shield strength

benefits weaker shields more