#U can tell the game is broken when every 1 uses the same wopan .

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unkempt hamlet
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What's the point of haveing multiple wopean modules when all of them are useless and broken mainly becaus of fire delay . Almost every 1 uses just mass battary now days used to be many barrage darts battary or Lazer.

Does this game even have devs that care ?

It only take 5 min of changing a nummber to make the game better yet to decided to foucse on other stupid things .

radiant spear
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WS sees a diversity of weapons, with majority of CR and some RL
BLS has a bit of everything, with DL being awesome, barrage niche but very playable, mbatt still very good but also lots of lasers/batt for some reasons that I'm not judging.
Even in drs higher levels see more diversity, with barrage/dart being used as well in non-meme builds

floral cave
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The efficiency player will go straight for MBatt/Regen/Solitude
that is the “standard” layout for what I assume was the design/plan.

I try different combinations for fun but MBatt is king

unkempt hamlet
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Yah but rs sux im rs11 and I just play 9s.mostly becaus the game make no sense to do anything else

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Also only mass battary is playable in rs

warped nymph
floral cave
# warped nymph Dl ;)

I need higher level DL.
I tried it but I’m only at level 4 so it’s not worth it yet. Shows a lot of promise

rancid crown
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I don’t disagree about wanting to use multiple weapon types in drs however I think the game was balanced to give players a cheap reliable method to do their daily grind. Once you hit rs10+ the ability to use other strategy opens up if you put in the effort to level and learn those mods. In og hades you needed a brand new weapon every 2 rs levels which made it very slow to level things.

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I think a build can be found for most weapons but you won’t be able to run 3x that build like we do with mass. But mass is also very slow for main planet clearing early in drs9 for example. Bs5 doesn’t leave much room for a good boom

teal wyvern
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They should add the ability to switch target on battery or barrage make that a key factor probably battery because barrage is already special. Now it would work like CR support. But tapping an enemy in range. It should have a cooldown to switch aim, also has a delay while switching. This will add some versatility in the bls on weapon selection. I do not use battery in bls because there are a million rockets. Now you can select a rocket while attacking cerbs. I know the point of HS is movement and angle of how you attack. But it's a "easy" change and it will create more competitive battles

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Laser should keep charge but only after you destroy something, it shouldn't even have a delay target. As long as in range it just auto attacks next fully charged.. imo nice change because you would only see laser or battery

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This changes the dynamics once again however this adds CHANGE and yall complaining about my suggestion well it is change lol

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Possibly upgrading battery decreases the target switch delay, rather than cooldown of switching. Laser I just wanna see OP

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Laser upgrade could have a longer charge effect after destroying something. I think cerbs should count however it could be like solitude where it has to be enemy bs

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Also having battery with switch cooldown (&target delay) is more a last resort option the planning of that being your play every time in WS would be almost useless. If it has the right cooldown, time

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For ts / miner I'm saying usually people have barrier or emp. Suspend, bond to counter

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I guess tele but that's 8 hrs

wispy anchor
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I love using rocket launcher in RS because I find it fun, but you just can't beat the efficiency of mass battery

elder summit
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MB soli is king for RS and a must for DRS(most of the time)
For RS u can use different mods and weapons but u gonna move sloooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
🤕Idk, maybe we go back to OG hades stats for weapons and shields?

floral cave
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I would love for RL to be a lower tier weapon mod. I think a lot of people would rock it in RS

merry quest
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OG Hades was better, plain and simple.
It actually made sense for me to level every weapon to maximum because I could find a used for all of them.

elder summit
supple otter
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I agree with this wholeheartedly! The target switch on Battery should not be as much as it is on Barrage.. at least that. Maybe one second target switch instead for Battery. I have Batt 11 with Solitude 10 and still can't do really well in rs9. Plus I like to team up for dark star and want to run one Battery with two Mass Battery but I'm still pretty useless even in dark star 7. So it's back to the drawing board for me again after playing 4+ years.. guess I'll just do what everyone else is, Mass-Regen-Solitude... Wanted to focus on some different modules but I guess not

merry quest
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The game would be better if it reverted to OG HS and retained the QoL Improvements

floral cave
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Revert to OG HS but reduce hydro costs otherwise we will lose the newer player base and we will be right back here making the same comments

elder summit
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The game play rn is nice.
Just the stats of the weapons and shields sucks.
Oh but plz bring back the old mirror 😃

floral cave
teal wyvern
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Make time warp a miner mod and it passively consumes the miners hydro to continue working... it was purple? Right? or idk actually

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Which could replace hydro upload, because then you would do things faster? You don't use hydro upload in rs so that just would be used to get back to gate faster maybe. As it levels up it consumes more hydro, possibly increase warp speed idk what else it could do definitely not cd also give it an extreme cd for WS. You are also wasting hydro so idk how much you would use it with every miner in a ws match

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Can't imagine wasting hydro on time warp in DRS maybe last resort

elder summit
elder summit
teal wyvern
# elder summit Don't replace mods 🫠 Just add TW in again 🤔 As a miner mod would make for some...

Well wouldn't the time warp speed up the consumption of the hydro, feel like it should be a tool well designed so that people aren't time warping across the map and what not. Especially not make CR worse to deal with. Maybe just speeding up some relic load a little. Pretty sure miner is fastest no module ship so it would out pace everything else but it shouldn't be able to do that much as that's why it was removed

elder summit
teal wyvern
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Yes but what I'm saying is maybe you would only see 1-2 miners with it in WS due to it using hydro

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Unless you are winning by a lot then that makes the scores overkill

floral cave
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Honestly, all of this could turn the Miner into a glass cannon gun-boat. And I’m all for it.

So your saying, I could have a miner with Blast Drone, Hydro Rocket, Crunch and Time Warp, who can now move very fast into Roid rich sectors and harass everyone…. Hell yeah

teal wyvern
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Yes but one thing Andreas loves. You are wasting hydro to be able to do that

rancid crown
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It’s not really a waste when most teams have effectively infinite hydro

teal wyvern
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But it would be the best way that a time warp could function if bringing it back but this is more about weapon issues haha

rancid crown
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Personally happy tw is gone and if it is brought back should for sure be pve only

merry quest
rancid crown
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Doesn’t art boost give a reason to mine?

merry quest
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Yes I know move speeds in DN are increased but CD are still laboriously slow

rancid crown
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I agree with that for gen enrich but I think other mods are mostly fine on cd

merry quest
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I think TW was great in BLS since you had to waste a mod slot to use it

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Most if the RS mods I used in DN were way too slow to return from my POV.
If you have to wait for mod CD for more than 60s to attempt another sector then its too slow

rancid crown
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Only need mods on main planets though so really only need one activation

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Anything else you squeeze in is bonus

merry quest
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DN basically ruined RS for me and RS was the only part of the game that I cared about
At least in OG HS I had to pay attention to what I was doing as I was walking a knife edge between success and a wipe... in DN I just send 3 ships to 3 sectors, spam mods, then come back to find the sectors empty

rancid crown
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Running drs11?

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I found old rs very stale. Telex3 to planet and wait no mods required.

merry quest
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That wasn't my experience, I used to manuever across the whole map and race everyone else to do 2 or 3 sectors

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However stale RS was getting in OG HS it's far more stale now

rancid crown
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We are definitely past the part where it’s supposed to be hard. I wish drs10+ were harder and more to do while endlessly waiting for enrich. We need more interesting spawns imo keep the action going

merry quest
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That's exactly it... I thought loading was boring in OG HS... it's positively painful now

teal wyvern
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Ig I should ask are you at max for rs 10

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And to be fair, this suggestion has lost control. Yall are the ones using the same weapon everytime, you can switch it up and have a different playstyle 😉

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We have 1 member that always uses battery, 1 member that uses dual laser in bls

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When they send replays, mainly battery (will get mostly battery with a couple mass) , dual laser sometimes gets laser, dual, 1-2 mass, and battery

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Not every time some I see have all mass. But you also have other modules, so it's not always about the weapon

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Yes these modules are level 10+

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For red star they do not use any of these xD

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The struggle is DRS, you could probably switch up RS after a certain point

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Like doing all 3, mass, 1 batt. Could even throw dual or dart in rs idk about drs

cursive smelt
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I guess people can start to try single target weapons if barrier can last way longer, like it used to be shrug

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Still these weapons suck

teal wyvern
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Just watch bombers and move around alot that's what the 1 with batt does. Usually he can just tele on opponents and destroy them he also uses rocket drone not even worried about repair hahaha

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The dual laser user just does alpha,vengeance destiny lol

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He also uses that in RS on one of his BS but with emp instead of destiny with tele

cursive smelt
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You know this requires more skills and suffers from more risks shrug also none of them can deal with ghosts

teal wyvern
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I'm just saying haha

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I see people with laser in bls and idk why really. Laser to me should really keep charge after destroying something if there is target in range

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Shouldn't even have target switch delay if already in range

cursive smelt
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The laser thing is already suggested by MHGA iirc shrug

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Ignored I guess

teal wyvern
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Maybe because of WS? But could add target delay into WS only?

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Then just use decoy drone against it

rancid crown
# teal wyvern Do you get +influence for RS 10?

Not maxed but I would be if I didn’t tank my influence so often. For the record I have used multiple builds and I’m constantly trying new things. I post them here all the time. It doesn’t really matter what weapons or mods it’s still just sitting in place and waiting unless you are trying something really fancy and unnecessary. I don’t think the players should have to make the game harder in the “hard mode” of the game

teal wyvern
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Great example of DL over power in bls, granted destiny and vengeance were used.. however the bomber rockets were obliterated

teal wyvern
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I didn't have dart before DN

rancid crown
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Dart sucked then and it sucks now

teal wyvern
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I think in 9 it would help destroy Phoenix just because more damage I'm already like just sitting there not even using drone slot so why not use repair and stuff lmao

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Not DR obviously but just for something to do

rancid crown
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So you gonna use no shield just so the dart lands?

teal wyvern
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Why not run ally?

rancid crown
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Oh, I don’t talk about normal rs. Normal rs don’t exist

teal wyvern
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Yeah definitely not in dr 😂

rancid crown
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Then you got no hp

teal wyvern
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I mean you could..

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Lol

rancid crown
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Not with dart anyway. Maybe rl

teal wyvern
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Rl does more damáge

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Honestly though couldn't you sit in one sector with rl and have it shoot stuff in one of your other bs sectors?

rancid crown
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AOE

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Yes

teal wyvern
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Aoe meaning it damages your bs?

rancid crown
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Aoe= insta blast damage

teal wyvern
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That'd be tragic

rancid crown
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Vs dart is single target

teal wyvern
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I meant because of the range rather the aoe because then you keep solitude

rancid crown
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Yes to both

teal wyvern
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Ainsta oblast edamage

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Aoe

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Imma dart dr9

rancid crown
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Enjoy

teal wyvern
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But it's like level 5 so maybe start there get some practice

rancid crown
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I want to try a rl build. Have 2 in mind

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Either way rl12, sol14, wamp14 is a lot of damage

teal wyvern
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Hey it's not mass battery

rancid crown
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I also had success with dl. The issue nobody wanna try anything. Everyone wants it handed to them so they use the easy meta

teal wyvern
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Dl seams great for bls I don't even have it unlocked pretty sure 😂

desert light
rancid crown
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Can mess up with mass just as bad

desert light
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also players aren't exactly going the easy route but in this case the more consistent one

but if more more mods like barrier or bond were usable in rs it could expand the options to be flexible

Barrier to help single target weapons, especially with the bullet hell projectiles.
bond to help laser pick out from the crowd and destiny the rest
two mods and immediately could make useful builds with them

teal wyvern
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Make the teleport damage on barrier in RS be, actual tele damage

rancid crown
teal wyvern
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Well there's no extra reward for it so I think the rest falls routine

rancid crown
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I agree single target weapons need help but being protect from projectiles isn’t it. Target switch breaks them

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Which is why drs should be harder. Shouldn’t be able to kill an entire planet sector with a single boom or shield activation. Give cerbs some actual hp

teal wyvern
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Give the collasal passive salvage laserharold

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Give sentinels mirror shield

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& f gaurdians

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I think just giving Sentinels mirror is enough

desert light
teal wyvern
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Give storm time warp

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Hades Star: Return of the cerberus

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Lower the damage in RS yes

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Drs go harder

desert light
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on cerb ships aswell as aoe spam on both ends

teal wyvern
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Oh I thought we only talking cerbs

desert light
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well the problem relies on "how long does the player want to experience this" and "how many times"
A being apparently 10-30 minutes
B being burnout because daily

teal wyvern
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You can always build more ships

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Ah thought you meant from death by cerbs

desert light
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well theres the next issue
Im fine losing a ship for a day or ~8 hrs but having to replace a ship fully sighs here
I'd prefer if a built ship was a permanent ship, I keep it until I want to replace it.
the risk doesn't fit the reward even with the microtransaction

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leading back to the prior is why players choose metas
they are consistent, consistent survival, consistent dps, consistent victory no real chance to break the mold without breaking their chances

teal wyvern
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I've lost many ships.. before dn

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Ig dr too

rancid crown
teal wyvern
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Either that or be able to produce damage to not have vengeance go off. But then you have alpha

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Tele is an option but not inner circle

rancid crown
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And be harder so those consequences are felt more often

desert light
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losing arts its harsh
wasting time buying new ships is annoying

rancid crown
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Nobody loses arts

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A bs dies. Supports do not

desert light
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well then the difficulty of keeping supports alive should be what makes drs difficult
but its just a fatter more muscular redstar
if supports had 300-500 hull it would change enough to make it interesting

teal wyvern
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On a side note for alpha shield can we make it reduce all your output damage in order for it to protect so much?