Upgrades = Lower Cooldowns

[frigid hill]

I really like how upgrading Teleport shaves a few seconds off the cooldown. I think this should apply to some other combat mods.

[shy charm]

All combat mods would get this or only certain combat mods?

[frigid hill]

I'd say it could be rolled out a number of ways

[stark crest]

Examples? I think some things that makes sense like wamp maybe but things like destiny and veng should stay fixed

[shy charm]

😭but yes plz shields
But yeah combat mods is the focus

[stark crest]

For sure not shields. Do you want alpha shields with no cd? Because that’s the slippery slope to getting alpha shields with no cd

[frigid hill]

I think destiny and veng could 100% have CD reductions incrementally, but it'd be more appropriate in RS

The one minute CD in BLS works well for most mods

[shy charm]

👀okay not alpha
But mirror,omega ...

🤔for bls they seem okay
But RS omg

[stark crest]

I still say no. That’s the entire point of regen is it’s got a faster refresh. So unless regen is also getting faster I think shields and the like should stay consistent

[shy charm]

🫠but that CD is Extremely long.
There's no point in using any other shield in a RS other then Regen (alpha only for clearing 1-2 sectors with Veng build)

Regen as it is now is awesome

[frigid hill]

I think for rs, suspends cooldown could also have a -5 second from CD each level. 5 minutes is a little excessive

[stark crest]

No point in using any other shields yeah alpha, motion, impulse, and ally just meaningless that’s why we see people using them

[shy charm]

I haven't seen someone use impulse 🤔high level (RS7 and up bracket)
Ally?
😧Who would use that?
Maybe high level oh... Lazer turret getting a new friend soon.

[stark crest]

It’s not common but Iv seen impulse in drs10-11. Not the best option but it gets the job done. Ally for rocket launcher builds and people who gate abuse use them to protect supports. But even if you want to ignore those alpha is the dominant shield used in drs10+ for attacking planets and motion is objectively better than regen and alpha

[shy charm]

So omega,blast and mirror are really really useless even in higher RS (DRS 10-11)?

[stark crest]

I think omega only exists now so lone bls have a shield in bls. Blast has been useless in rs for a long time. Its now an important ws mod but you dont need many so not everyone needs to level it. Mirror I am personally not a fan of. I dont think it does enough damage to warrant use until its incredibly high level. That said people do use it but I can’t say how much success they see. At this point drs has kinda been cracked and most players could probably run them in groups with anything. Iv seen some really wild stuff

[obsidian yew]

I have a buddy using mirror with RL

[crude leaf]

technically it is since more hp means higher regeneration per second

honestly combats in rs should probably all get 2m cd

i wouldnt mind if shields got 2m cd 3m effect duration either

[shy charm]

🤔 interesting.
Thanks for that

[shy charm]

In RS ?
Or DRS
Or both?

[shy charm]

Yeah but now it seems if the shields are high enough they could be worth investing in

[shy charm]

But yes plz 🗿

[obsidian yew]

I know DRS, RS isn't relevant to me.
D9 safe, d10 more challenging last I checked

Mirror is core to the build to address sents that RL can't really answer.
Not saying it's better than a classic brawler, but he makes it work

[balmy garden]

@shy charm Used to run imp shield DR11 pretty good for clearing D11 planets if its high enough and you aren't able to do boom builds.

[shy charm]

.... What
I see...

[shy charm]

🤔 interesting makes sense now

[shy charm]

Thx 😊
What about the cooldown time?
Did you clear a sector then wait till impulse reloaded or just moved on?

[balmy garden]

depends don't solo D11 and you need it to survive about 3m's per ship, last ship usualy had a new shield at the end when needed

I used it primarily to destroy phoenix/hydra

Phoenix shield is gone in 5 seconds when using imp in combination with suspend

[shy charm]

🫠still at 8 lol
I see.

[shy charm]

Oh smart plan (notes that down)

[shy charm]

Could I use impulse in DRS7 with a level 5 BS?
Or is it still to risky?
Do I need that extra support slot

[balmy garden]

@shy charm depends on all the mod lvls but I don't see why not

[lethal cargo]

i actually want teleport to be fixed to 1 minute (for both rs and bls)

[stark crest]

Boo hiss

[crude leaf]

💀

[lethal cargo]

😦

[stark crest]

Tele 14 is literally the only upgrade Iv been looking forward to in like 2 months. Don’t take this from me

[lethal cargo]

what about keeping cooldown fixed just in bls?

[crude leaf]

maybe should decrease less in bls

like from 1m down to 35s, -2.5s per level

[stark crest]

The difference in bls is minimum for most levels. I figure most people are gonna have tele about equal to their rs level so unless you are like me and go way out of your way to level it you don’t see a huge benefit from the reduction. Do you not feel 25k prints is worth 5 seconds? Most other mods don’t get a cd reduction so most of the time you can’t really take advantage of it anyway. Most people I need have level 10-12 I will have 14 so that’s a 10-12 second gain. Is that really too much?

I’ll admit 30 seconds at 15 is extreme but that’s so far away I’m not sure how big of a deal it’ll be

[obsidian yew]

Is it really so far away? People are getting to lvl14s that's halfway there, but now for the second half they have their mining already sorted out and bigass ab, so that won't take as long

[frigid hill]

I think higher lvl mods should have lower CDs in RS 100%, makes it faster paced, more skill expression

[stark crest]

Even with ab14 that’s like another 5 months of one color, yes it’s quite far away

[obsidian yew]

I guess we had different perspectives what "far away" meant. For a potentially game breaking imbalance that sounds rather close to me 😅
Ps: 50k with a pure diet is 140 days of ab14, 130 days of ab15

Ofc not many are at 50k quite yet, and that's kinda mutually exclusive with ab15 atm

[stark crest]

That’s 140 days of one color plus having played for a minimum of like 4 years of game time for the cap. I’m not saying it’s not strong just that it’s a lot of effort I don’t think it’s unreasonable to get some fun stuff. At level 15 do you not think we should be a bit op? Making players feel powerful is generally a good thing

[obsidian yew]

I agree with you today 🙂
I just hope we won't regret it midway through next year if pvp becomes ridiculously unfun with rs12/25m mods