Visual indicator for leap and dispatch landing explosion radius

[glass kraken]

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[sullen grotto]

What are we up to 6th? 7th? This has been requested a lot.

[glass kraken]

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[static aurora]

I agree should have indicators like veng but then bls leap should be 8 seconds rather than 10

[chrome plaza]

+1

[river forge]

+1

[glass kraken]

i think 10 secs was done because thats how long you need to get out of radius if you move immediately

[static aurora]

Multiple other ways to escape but even still I’d almost rather shorter time to 8 seconds and smaller range to match. But leap has a ton of counters. 5 seconds was too short but 10 is so long

[timid fiber]

i think leap is still decently good even with 10s

but its gonna be nerfed when there is a visual indicator

(unless its applied only to the leaper)

[static aurora]

Agreed

[lost haven]

Dear god this needs to be added

its like if vengeance just made you guess if you were about to be disintegrated

[amber crescent]

Can the indicator go ping ping.... .. ping ping.. and make a navy sub noise? || I didn't read any of this ||

[lost haven]

maybe less people care about this now since leap isnt meta in BLS anymore

[kind lotus]

Nah, fck Leap, it is already strong enough.

Barely escapable with a 10 second delay, 8 would break it

[static aurora]

This is objective untrue. I use leap in all game modes and assure you it’s easily escapeable and it’s completely avoidable if you play correctly. Roughly half the people I attack with it in bls escape

[kind lotus]

Maximum bs speed in bls is 20 AU/s

Leap range is 200 AU

Without certain mods it is very difficult to avoid

Maybe if its range was nerfed, 8 seconds would be fine

[static aurora]

Not all mods should counter all mods

[kind lotus]

Trade ease of activation for slightly worse effect

[kind lotus]

I am just saying it is already too good

[static aurora]

I did mention reducing its range in another comment about reducing trigger time

[kind lotus]

It all comes down to cerb placement

If the map is open, you have an easy method of expanding someone’s alpha/barrier

[kind lotus]

This kind of RNG can be annoying

[static aurora]

You don’t remove alpha with leap unless you wanna die

Anyway the point I was originally making is that reducing the trigger time from 10 to 8 and reducing its effect range proportionally (160au) it would be fair but also let leap be used near the end. Currently the red zone kills the drone instantly so unless you are tick perfect you can’t leap over the red.

[timid fiber]

i mean... its a mid module

not that bad, not that good

more widely used than fortify, delta rocket, omega rocket (endgame matches)

[static aurora]

I never said it was amazing or trash. I said saying that it’s inescapable was incorrect

[glass kraken]

bumping this for people to vote

[little delta]

bump 2

(I help the ZeroG guy to bump it)

[proper oyster]

Estimate the explosion radius and manage to get out of the radius is part of the game, otherwise it's gonna nerfed like @timid fiber said

[glass kraken]

There is no way to estimate it. It's too large.

[proper oyster]

Have you ever played WS?
If your team's blast shields can't tank leaps, you need to get out of the radius, so you need to constantly adjust moves in tm. Your suggestion is making this game to be easier instead of better

[lost haven]

i mean, if the difficulty in the game comes from guessing the size of a circle, maybe thats already kinda stupid

id say the leap landing indicator would simply help prevent obnoxious deaths in BLS

[glass kraken]

I'm talking about BLS

[glass kraken]

this

destiny and veng get an indicator, leap needs one too

[lost haven]

hell, if you want leap to remain somewhat covert, you could only show the splash radius when selecting the leaping ship, but i think a general splash indicator like vengeance is reasonable

[proper oyster]

Then why you do the genrich calculation?
Why don't you suggest dev provide a official genrich calculator in game so we don't need to make our own spreadsheet and put stupid formats and functions in it?
Hades is all about math

[glass kraken]

wat

[proper oyster]

I mean, your suggestion is good, but it will makes game easier but not better

[static aurora]

As a filthy leaper I can assure you many deaths are right on the edge of the range because people run and think they are safe so they stop

[proper oyster]

I've seen a lot of suggestions like this.
These suggestions have one thing in common:
People don't willing to do the math. They want to add a timer for ws mods CD to see what the cooldown status is without having to jump in a bs, they want to see the leap/ dispatch explosion radius....
Come on, just do some math, don't be lazy.

[static aurora]

There is no math to be done for leap in bls. But it is hard to visualize. Could you draw a line that’s exactly 1 foot long with no margin of error?

[proper oyster]

Yes there is no math to be done for leap in bls, but why don't you just destiny out or tp to somewhere?

[static aurora]

Why do we need red lights? Can’t you do the math for the intersection?

[static aurora]

Not always an option

[proper oyster]

Math for the intersection? You know it's impossible

[static aurora]

Not impossible. They are on timers

[lost haven]

judging from the amount of reactions, people think this suggestion would clearly improve the game

[static aurora]

It’s not important just pointing out your argument is nonsensical.

[proper oyster]

But it's possible try in tm to see the radius, and rewind the replay to see the mods cooldown

[lost haven]

hell, im upgrading leap right now. i would prefer it be better if i use it in BLS, but its just a cheesy mechanic that doesnt strike me as fair

[static aurora]

Please give me live tm in rs and bls then 🤷‍♂️

[proper oyster]

No. only makes it easier for you to play, not improve the game, it reduces the difficulty of the game

[static aurora]

Bad visuals≠good game mechanics

[proper oyster]

Good visuals≠good game mechanics

[lost haven]

what level leap do you have jeremy?

[proper oyster]

10

[static aurora]

I don’t say it did but you did

[proper oyster]

Did I?

Show me

[static aurora]

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[lost haven]

do you think a leap splash visual will remove the stealth using it in bls?

[static aurora]

Yes. Currently get about half my kills without the enemy bs even realizing they are being attacked

[proper oyster]

yeah this suggestion won't improve the game, but it did make it easier for you guys to play

[proper oyster]

Probably

[static aurora]

For you guys? It will make bls harder for me and more fair to those I play against

[lost haven]

yea, i mean thats kinda lame.. idk

i guess itd be exciting to pull it off, but not very fun for the other person

[static aurora]

Which is why I support visual indicator

[lost haven]

yea

[proper oyster]

How about rs and WS then?

[lost haven]

like i said here, if you want some skill/awareness element, it could be reasonable to only show splash radius when selecting the leaping ship

[static aurora]

Rs would be nice for new leap user. I have used it so long I just know. In ws I hate wasting time looking in tm for landing zone. It should be readily viewable like veng and destiny are

[proper oyster]

OK.
So it's easier in WS and RS
More difficult in BLS
2 VS. 1

[static aurora]

Strong disagree. My wamped rockets are also unfair. One hit no indicator. Have no time to be clicking rockets to see if you safe

I wanna win from skill not because the other player can’t see me attacking

[proper oyster]

That's why I said yall are not really trying to improve the game, yall are just thinking about how can I make this game easier for me to play by giving suggestions

[static aurora]

Sounds like you are just sour because your auto win in bls will be slightly harder

[lost haven]

i mean, this is similar to if vengeance did not have a visual indicator, but even vengeance you can click and view the module radius to preview blast..

[proper oyster]

It'll be great only visible in bls like yall said, but definitely not in WS

[lost haven]

i mean, sure, but WS hardly matters with TM anyway

i guess if your opponent is oblivious

[static aurora]

Also 8 hours to react in ws. A few seconds in bls

[ocean comet]

This is a reason why suspend is on my ship, to measure this stuff.
Still means the issue is whether a player knows they are targeted or not (any other explosion radius) they still can't dodge because 200 is such an odd range compared to other ranges in game.

[fallow tapir]

This is scheduled for 2025.1 (scheduled features may still not make it into the update for various reasons)

[static aurora]

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Ty!

[lost haven]

Awesome!

[little delta]

:0

[lusty totem]

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[kind lotus]

Let’s go!

[timid fiber]

when is the 2025.1 update again?

[static aurora]

Fall 2026

[glass kraken]

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[static aurora]

Finally time to find a new bls build

[ocean comet]

'Has any difficulty exploiting game mechanics'
Finds the next exploitable game mechanic

[static aurora]

That’s how it goes. I didn’t use leap before it was 10 seconds and I’m happy we’re getting an indicator. Will be nice in drs too

[scarlet aurora]

OP mentioned leap AND dispatch.
For leap it is absolutely required in some way.

For dispatch its not necessary. 120au area of effect is the same as the range of most ship weapons. And if we're talking ws, you have 12hr to use TM to fly a ship over there and check.

[kind lotus]

Anyways it is a nice visual fix. I assume that the two mods share the same code, so it wasn't a big deal

[timid fiber]

we got blue veng and leap before gta6

and green