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blissful pantherBOT Jul 8, 2025, 11:40 PM

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number-st/end/th

plucky oak Jul 8, 2025, 11:43 PM

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9e est théoriquement la forme "correcte" et la plus courante mais en vérité les deux sont tout aussi compréhensibles donc ça a peu d'importance

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le seul numéro sur lequel faire attention c'est 1er/1ère vu que le mot est premier/première et pas "premième"

azure silo Jul 8, 2025, 11:46 PM

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Oh ouah c'est beaucoup plus simple que l'anglais. Juste 1er, alors 2e/3e/4e/etc

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Merci

ebon lily Jul 9, 2025, 12:09 AM

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Je te mets cet article : https://vitrinelinguistique.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/24271/les-abreviations-et-les-symboles/les-abreviations/cas-particuliers-dabreviations/abreviation-de-ladjectif-numeral-ordinal

azure silo Jul 9, 2025, 12:17 AM

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Merci, c'est très utile.

Sorry, side question:
I tried saying "that is very useful" and incorrectly started typing "qu'est très utile" thinking I'm writing a contracted "that is very useful / que est très utile".

Is "que" just for questions ("what...") as well as for bridging two... uh... phrases? Ie. "comment est-ce que tu vas" => literal "how is it what you're doing?"

Or, maybe prehrasing... "qu'est" at the beginning of non-question sentences is nonsensical? I cannot say "that is very useful"... only "it is very useful"

plucky oak Jul 9, 2025, 12:22 AM

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first of, "that" has multiple meanings in English and gets translated differently
"that thing" is different from "that is useful" which is different from "the one that is useful"

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the first one is an adjective (highlighting something) => cette chose
the second one is a noun (usable independantly) => __c'__est pratique
the third one is a conjunction (bridging) => celui qui est pratique

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while translating dircetly can be useful, if you don't make the distinction between meanings, it'll end up pranking you in the end. this is a slow process, but eventually, you'll be able to grasp language syntax directly in French by identifying tools you need to make your sentence

azure silo Jul 9, 2025, 12:28 AM

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Merci, I'm coping these into my notes

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Yeah I'm working on weaning myself off of "write an english sentence but with french words".

plucky oak Jul 9, 2025, 12:35 AM

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-# note: constructions like "que c'est utile" exist but it's a different topic (closer to "how useful that is")

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