miketuan

[subtle tundra]

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[raw crater]

The use of article is necessary as I read from texts, but AI explains that "When stating a date in a standalone way (often in announcements, appointments, or formal instructions), French often omits the article.
This is common in brief, direct instructions (like appointments or commands)."

[mental ledge]

I’ve never seen that, or at least never noticed it

Even in formal emails and such you still have the definite article like « le mardi 1er juillet »

Where did you get these sentences?

[raw crater]

they're all from this my textbook, 8a is the first sentence

grammaire essentielle du français

[mental ledge]

I’ll study more about it but I’m still of the opinion that we wouldn’t omit it here

There’s two standard formats: le + jour + date (le mardi 1er juillet) or jour, le + date (mardi, le 1er juillet)

There’s no case where we would omit the article

[raw crater]

Yeah I agree, those format agree with what I have learnt

[stark pendant]

but AI explains that
Important note: assuming you mean an LLM-based AI such as ChatGPT, never rely on AI generated text to be factually correct. They're algorithms based on statistical prediction using their training data and at no point is fact checking or even logical reasoning of any sort a part of the process of generating the output. Check any claim it makes through your own research and assume it is nonsense in any situation where you cannot find a reliable source backing it up. LLMs are very effective at generating text that looks natural and sounding confident but "confident" and "true" are two entirely different things.

That being said, while looking this up I have found the following page from a Canadian government-owned website which does outline a rule indicating that the article before a date may be omitted https://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/fr/cles-de-la-redaction/date-regles-decriture#article, which is also mentioned in this page from the OQLF's website: https://vitrinelinguistique.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/index.php?id=21242

As far as I can tell, this seems to be specific to Canadian French as I personally cannot recall seeing the article omitted before dates in France and I haven't found any source mentioning this writing convention outside of Canadian French websites

[raw crater]

Yes I found it, seems like Canadian French