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torn cargoBOT Jul 12, 2024, 3:40 PM

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hybrid drum Jul 12, 2024, 3:55 PM

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« l'histoire de la France » but i wouldn't be really shocked if I heard just « de France »

marsh jay Jul 12, 2024, 3:58 PM

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we actually hear a lot "histoire de france"

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but i couldn't explain why

hybrid drum Jul 12, 2024, 3:59 PM

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probably for the same reason we say « je viens de France » but idk

storm sail Jul 12, 2024, 4:00 PM

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I've actually looked it up a few times, it depends on what is being meant by 'of France'. If we're talking a generality like a general view of French history, we omit the article, « l'histoire de France », but if we're talking about everything in French history, we keep it, « l'histoire de la France »

lime iris Jul 12, 2024, 4:01 PM

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Iirc « de la France » tends to be more the political country while « de France » tends to be more the area/physical country

storm sail Jul 12, 2024, 4:01 PM

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It seems to me that there should be a hidden adjective:
« L'histoire de France »
« L'histoire de la France (entière) »

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because adjectives do cause it to pop up

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