Just pre-ordered sonic frontiers
#Sonic
flint folio
you can do that?
next tartan
Yea bby
flint folio
I appreciate your bare minimum answer
atomic topaz
lol
atomic topaz
hi
atomic topaz
@flint folio how could you
flint folio
idk
atomic topaz
leave this dead for three days
flint folio
very little news ;-;
all news has been sonic speed sim, and i kinda dropped off that
atomic topaz
same
i was happy you got me into it but lets be honest
it cant compete with a PS5
flint folio
i mean it isnt supposed to, its a decent game i just felt a bit tedious
atomic topaz
i mean it isnt supposed to, its a decent game i just felt a bit tedious
That is not what you said to me when you were playing it every day lol
flint folio
yeah, its still good
atomic topaz
not the same mood lol
flint folio
just cant be bothered recently
grizzled stone
Kinda same
I got back in for that metal sonic event
but I got the skins and just kinda lost interest
Expecting the same with genshin impact, which is what I've been playing lately
atomic topaz
Would be nice to have a new mobile game
man fuck it I'll pay for it if they make sonic rush on mobile phones
flint folio
skeet tries to not mention sonic rush at every opportunity challenge
i'd hope youd pay for it, it wouldnt be free
idk what the game will be - probably more dense than dash
atomic topaz
idk what the game will be - probably more dense than dash
If it's anything other than dash I'd be happy
Not that those games are bad it's just a pretty boring formula
imo
flint folio
well its just a mobile game
atomic topaz
yeah ik
But I hope they do something different this time
Like at least a little different
flint folio
well there is nothing else to do
atomic topaz
Fair I guess
flint folio
single player temple run with sonic
multiplayer temple run with sonic
atomic topaz
single player temple run with sonic
multiplayer temple run with sonic
Actually it's more comparable to Subway Surfers
flint folio
they're all the same
atomic topaz
You know how you have 3 pathways that you swipe to
That's Subway Surfers
Temple Run always had you tilt your phone
im just saying it's a bit different
next tartan
Temple Run always had you tilt your phone
I swiped in temple run
Temple run made the swipe left/right/up/down mobile game genre
grizzled stone
speaking of sonic dash, I missed out on the sir percival event
but then I realised that I don't even care for the game itself and am just hoarding event characters XD
atomic topaz
speaking of sonic dash, I missed out on the sir percival event
SONIC AND THE BLACK KNIGHT FOR NNTENDO WII REFERENCE???
grizzled stone
yee
atomic topaz
whatculture just lost their credibility
grizzled stone
playing unleashed on my PS2 emulator, the vibes are lovely
just sitting and listening to the apotos hub music
wish I could run it in 60fps though for a little extra smoothness
:)
flint folio
Any idea what I might say to this
grizzled stone
Something about the Xbox fps boost thing?
also I love how if you try to boost while out of boost, Sonic trips
something hug
yay
flint folio
Something about the Xbox fps boost thing?
Something about play the HD version instead
It gooderer :D
grizzled stone
I'd love to
but my PS3 isn't working atm
that and I'll have to find a used copy
atomic topaz
Something about play the HD version instead
The PS2 and wii versions were sort of different if I recall correctly
Like the levels were structured differently?
flint folio
No
atomic topaz
Something like that?
grizzled stone
Probably not that different beyond the Wii's controls
flint folio
Just graphically they’re different
They don’t even incorporate motion I don’t think
You gotta remember the Wii is the whole reason a PS2 version exists
atomic topaz
I thought I heard someone say that the levels were different
Not named differently but different level design
grizzled stone
I think the Wii uses it a bit for the Werehog?
flint folio
Not that I’ve heard of
grizzled stone
hold on lemme check my sources hahaha
atomic topaz
someone lied to me
flint folio
There is nothing about the SD versions differing outside of graphics
The Wii version looks best out of the two I think
Makes sense
grizzled stone
https://youtu.be/H_lj5gWug50?t=992 Here's this, timestamped
not exactly primary source or anything but I was watching a different video from the same channel
so it came to mind first
grizzled stone
Yeah true
flint folio
Though for the attack on screen, the motion sounds fun lol
grizzled stone
Definitely glad it's not a forced thing haha
Skyward Sonic
It would be kinda funny for me to pick up the Wii version and use my Gamecube controller, but if I wanna waste money I should buy guitar stuff instead
grizzled stone
would be nice to have a sonic game that really stands up more to replaying
though it is possible to repeatedly replay generations or something
flint folio
Yeah but give me a sonic JRPG or something
Idk
Just all sorts of shit, I like enormous games
grizzled stone
yeeee
ornate oyster
flint folio
also oh hey, heroes time
on the anniversary of SA2Battle, no less
how tf this get a release date before frontiers though LOL
flint folio
It is indeed
next tartan
The fall guys sonic things been leaked for weeks
flint folio
Yeah but it comes out in 2 days AODHAN so I think a post is necessary
Also it came out like 2 years ago but it comes back soon
atomic topaz
Yeah but it comes out in 2 days AODHAN so I think a post is necessary
fair lol
next tartan
Yeah but it comes out in 2 days AODHAN so I think a post is necessary
Ok JOSEPH but you're a fake fan
flint folio
Taken the L I see
flint folio
Nice switch online
atomic topaz
Nice switch online
hmm?
flint folio
He doesn’t have it
atomic topaz
Wait are you saying switch online is an L
flint folio
I am busy insulting aodhan skeet please just enjoy it
atomic topaz
ok
Yeah fuck you aodhan
flint folio
You smell of stinky people
atomic topaz
You smell of stinky people
You mean his country?
flint folio
Bro
next tartan
ok
Yeah fuck you aodhan
Fuck you
next tartan
You mean his country?
You smell of lack of rights for large groups of ppl (your country)
atomic topaz
@flint folio https://youtu.be/Re4U2HJ1PFc
flint folio
Fella this ends tomorrow lol
atomic topaz
I know you definitely posted something about this before but the fact that it was recommended to me on my YouTube homepage is kind of funny
atomic topaz
Fella this ends tomorrow lol
i done even play fall guys lmao
flint folio
I was talking about it on the days it was announced and the beginning of it
flint folio
That fall guys announcement was just comical lol
Heh
atomic topaz
I just thought it was funny
The fact that it was recommended to me on my homepage implies that they think I actually care about that
flint folio
You do care, about Nintendos channel, cmon skeet you can piece this together
atomic topaz
Yeah true
flint folio
A character you care about, a company you’re likely even subscribed to, posting about a video game, that is massively popular not far from games you already play
Might recommend it to you
atomic topaz
A character you care about, a company you’re likely even subscribed to, posting ...
Yeah
Well at least I was able to keep this thread alive by saying dumb shit
flint folio
Good job
flint folio
Yeah it was alright, it was pretty good but it wasn’t actually very fast
Lotta platforming in that area
next tartan
It ends tomorrow fuck
I still haven't touched it
It ends early Tuesday for me lmfao nvm
flint folio
I got sonic but I needed 100 tokens for Super Sonic and I probably won’t get him in time
atomic topaz
I got sonic but I needed 100 tokens for Super Sonic and I probably won’t get him...
Did we all forget about sonic speed sim
I feel like I absolutely did
flint folio
It was cool, I just haven’t felt the desire to go back
next tartan
I got sonic but I needed 100 tokens for Super Sonic and I probably won’t get him...
If I can get to the end of the battlepass I'll have enough of those tokens for both tails and robotnik
I think
atomic topaz
sonic in fortnite pls
grizzled stone
Did we all forget about sonic speed sim
I went back for a bit with that Metal Sonic event, got the characters available and kinda lost interest
grizzled stone
speaking of fast, I downloaded sonic 1 on my phone but I was swiftly reminded about the errors of Marble Zone
also touch controls ehh
grizzled stone
Not really technical errors, just the problem with the whole zone being so slow and stop-and-start, the antithesis of Sonic
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1560659605402791936?s=21&t=7XGNukd41Np...
cryptic
flint folio
New thing this Tuesday
flint folio
holiday '22, so nov/dec, i think the leaked date was december 3rd?
grizzled stone
DLC before the game even has an official release?
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/vgc_news/status/1560580110524170241?s=21&t=zlPUiRtXpXaGKE3Sj...
woah homie
i'm 100% down for that
flint folio
Let me waste hundreds of hours in this game I fucking dare you sega
flint folio
I will eek every centimetre out of this fuckin area I swear
Part of me will want to buy a PS5 just to get this as smooth as possible but we’ll see about that
If it runs on switch I’m sure I’ve got very little to worry about really either way
atomic topaz
Part of me will want to buy a PS5 just to get this as smooth as possible but we’...
I think your ps4 pro will be great
flint folio
That’s why I’m not massively fussed, it may even be a free upgrade job anyway
Anyway, DLC for a sonic game is genius, especially at this scale, insane possibilities here
atomic topaz
this game isnt anywhere near the biggest AAA titles being developed right now in terms of graphics
flint folio
That is true, the switch version is even running good
So there may not be much difference between the 4 pro and the 5, likely 1080p vs 4k or something
flint folio
On ps5 I reckon it is very much capable, but I don’t think they’ll unlock it to above that
atomic topaz
Unless I don't understand how frame rates work
flint folio
Well the game is usually allowed to run up to a certain frame rate, the devs set that themselves unless they leave it unlocked
Most games are capped to keep a stable experience, even if uncapped it could be higher
atomic topaz
It's got to be 60 FPS at least on PS5
thats probably guaranteed
flint folio
There’s a reason the Series X was fully capable of playing unleashed at 60fps 100% of the time but was still capped at 30 for ages
flint folio
It's got to be 60 FPS at least on PS5
thats probably guaranteed
60fps will be absolutely guaranteed I can tell you that, maybe even 60 on the 4 pro
atomic topaz
The PS5 is only capped at 30 if you use the fidelity or ray tracing modes
flint folio
1080/60 is all I need, I’ll be more than happy
You only need to lock the ps5 to 30 if you’re in 4k/Ray Tracing, which I’m not really fussed with anyway
atomic topaz
Yeah that's what I said lol
flint folio
Lol yeah
Still; I fully expect we will know all the specs and differences in due time
We recently saw the switch port, likely seen a high end PC version, which I can’t see being far from the current gen version at all
atomic topaz
I can still mock you for having the lesser version when it comes out
I won't
But I will have the option to
flint folio
Well it’s November/December, I may even have a PS5 by then if I make that leap
atomic topaz
We shall see for sure
flint folio
I might not by then, but you never know
Gotta have worthwhile games for me outside of a couple
Mind you it depends when I’m employed, I could just save for it anyway and enjoy my old favourites and games I never got round to
atomic topaz
I've got a good amount of games to look forward to in the next like year of PS5 hype
flint folio
I hope more comes out soon, everything I’ve wanted to play is still on the 4 currently
atomic topaz
gotham knights, RE4 remake, suicide squad, jedi survivor
flint folio
I’ll care for Jedi Survivor if it doesn’t have enormous spiders LOL
atomic topaz
to name a few
atomic topaz
I’ll care for Jedi Survivor if it doesn’t have enormous spiders LOL
im gonna do it
im gonna post it again
flint folio
Get the tissues lads
There’s a stream in there somewhere, the spidercunt crying stream
atomic topaz
Get the tissues lads
atomic topaz
actually that whole exchange was pretty golden
flint folio
Did I post the fact that Japan got a small frontiers trailer
It has vocals and stuff
flint folio
People are theorising who was doing the vocals
Apparent translation of the spoken words from maybe sage?
atomic topaz
Apparent translation of the spoken words from maybe sage?
wait who's sage
flint folio
wait who's sage
atomic topaz
why did that make me think of the Backyardigans
flint folio
Because you stink of winkledust
atomic topaz
Because you stink of winkledust
i legitimately was reminded of the pink character
flint folio
I have barely any idea what that is outside of the penguin
flint folio
No I’ve just seen it before
flint folio
Memes probably
atomic topaz
Memes probably
actually yeah that sounds plausible
flint folio
Must have been, I couldn’t tell you what meme or how, but it was probably one
atomic topaz
Must have been, I couldn’t tell you what meme or how, but it was probably one
Yeah I'm pretty sure that show has been memed a fair bit
next tartan
I have barely any idea what that is outside of the penguin
If you take drugs and just watch a nature documentary it's basically the same thing
atomic topaz
The audio is horrendous
atomic topaz
Is that the AtGames thing
I don't know I don't have the box anymore
it just says this on the back
grizzled stone
Is that the AtGames thing
looks like it!
atomic topaz
It might be, but the device itself doesn't say that
flint folio
Lol I think those were a bit poo
atomic topaz
Lol I think those were a bit poo
im impressed with the amount of games its built-in with
flint folio
Yeah but it’s not emulated great, so so so many videos on those lol
flint folio
so uh anyone gonna see the gamescom livestream tuesday live
atomic topaz
so uh anyone gonna see the gamescom livestream tuesday live
Depends what time
flint folio
2pm ET
atomic topaz
That's right when I leave work and I'll be picking up my copy of saints row right after that
grizzled stone
Been playing sonic 1 on my phone lately
I've acquired a newfound hatred for labyrinth zone
atomic topaz
I've acquired a newfound hatred for labyrinth zone
relatable
grizzled stone
Between the constant water physics, level design that actively fights the concept of a sonic game, and having to deal with touch controls, bleh
next tartan
Is this a real thing
Yes
flint folio
good
flint folio
NOVEMBER 8th??
DLC and November release date from the Japanese trailer a while ago that was leaked, thank fuck it’s not the gamescom trailer
next tartan
OH MY GOD ITS THE 8TH LFG
young dagger
sonic sweep
atomic topaz
NOVEMBER 8th??
I hope this is because they feel it's in a really good state to launch and not because they're just rushing it out
flint folio
I would request not such a negative or neutral reaction to this level of news LOL
atomic topaz
I mean don't you want this game to come out being very polished
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/sonic_frontier/status/1562148110855507969?s=21&t=1HRwd5XqmMD...
oh and this is killer box art
love it
flint folio
I mean don't you want this game to come out being very polished
releases trailer
“I hope it’s not rushed”
Is not a very fun reaction, yes of course I don’t want it unpolished but I also want to be excited lol
atomic topaz
I wasn't trying to kill your vibe I've just been scarred by unfinished game launches lately
apologies if i did
flint folio
I would like to ride this vibe high
atomic topaz
I would like to ride this vibe high
holy shit i just got fuckin whiplash from how great everything looks in this trailer
flint folio
Thank you for your vibe
atomic topaz
i can only imagine how smooth this will be on ps5
i think I have a new level of hype now
flint folio
With cat though so I’ll discuss with you later - but I’m loving it
grizzled stone
neat box art! Reminds me of that one shot in Colours' intro
I especially like sonic's grin
atomic topaz
What a trailer
I’m giddy
graphics looked more polished to me than the last trailer
flint folio
Last trailer was the switch to be fair mate lol
atomic topaz
ah fuck
forgot that lmao
im just like sooooooo hyped to play this on ps5 now
smooth as BUTTER i assume
flint folio
Very likely
Switch version looks good too though actually, I always like the mini handheld version
Though I’ll be on ps4 pro or 5 for snoc
young dagger
might pre order
flint folio
Will try not but 8 times
next tartan
Trailer
Amy's memory tokens... is she amnesiac
Or is the boss and thus this whole army somehow linked to Amy's past
flint folio
POV: you're watching me watch the trailer for the 8th time
young dagger
i do like the direction they're going for in terms of 3D, especially after all the boost games
i didn't mind the gameplay style but something like this is a lot more interesting to me
flint folio
i do like the all of it
in fairness it is also a boost game in its smaller levels
but thats like
perfection
so
young dagger
i mean i think boost has been ingrained into sonics kit, like homing attacks and whatnot
flint folio
it has genuine boost levels in cyberspace, i mean
but for the open area its more intergrated yes
flint folio
sky sanctuary, a city level, things that looked like rooftop run and chemical plant from other previews
young dagger
hopefully it isnt like 2 seconds long like some previous games
i dont think it will but just something to hope for
flint folio
hopefully it isnt like 2 seconds long like some previous games
izuka said about 20-30 to finish, double that to complete
also, the game is 10GB on switch, 28 on steam
so fairly substatial
correction Morio Kishimoto said that
young dagger
izuka said about 20-30 to finish, double that to complete
ooo hell yeah
flint folio
gonna try crack 100 though LOL
young dagger
i might
young dagger
KOCOS
apparently sonic stadium played a demo of frontiers and said it was good so
that gives me hope as well
flint folio
i have seen an enormous amount of support from people who were originally critical or not 100% on board
that if anything is worth more than me exploding at every moment
young dagger
true
atomic topaz
i have seen an enormous amount of support from people who were originally critic...
At this point I feel like it has to at least be better than forces
flint folio
Oh good it’s at least a 6/10
atomic topaz
Oh good it’s at least a 6/10
i just mean by default, you can't be too optimistic given whats came before
but i am feeling better about it indeed
6/10 is a start
flint folio
i just mean by default, you can't be *too* optimistic given whats came before
I can and I will
Going full send on sonic this time around
With the vast and drastic changes each thing I’m told just makes me more excited, there is enough present that the rest of the game could be dogshit and it would still be good
atomic topaz
I can and I will
fair enough, i 100% respect that
flint folio
atomic topaz
<:joe:957688522813358140>
honestly those hyperspace stages alone are enough for it to be worth it in my eyes
its like a mini sonic gens 2
within the new game
flint folio
Funnily enough I’m more excited for the open zone
Did you like my collage of content I saw
flint folio
This
flint folio
Yes
atomic topaz
yeah very admirable
flint folio
Lots from the demo, skill trees, cutscenes, levels..
There is a green hill level that plays near identically to windmill isle act 1
atomic topaz
is frontiers gonna be 60 dollars
flint folio
Yes
atomic topaz
nice
flint folio
Apparently the first time since sonic 06 that has happened
atomic topaz
woah rip lol
flint folio
If it helps, sonic 06 was the last sonic game that would feasibly take over 10 hours to beat lol
And also had open zones🤔
Seems to definitely warrant the price tag anyway
Since forces didn’t warrant £35 lol
atomic topaz
If it helps, sonic 06 was the last sonic game that would feasibly take over 10 h...
and it looks like frontiers is twice the length of 06
maybe longer
flint folio
correction Morio Kishimoto said that
At least
atomic topaz
correction Morio Kishimoto said that
the last game i played that was 30 hours for main story was tlou 2 lol
and you know how i feel about that
flint folio
Won’t rest until sonic has a game as long as xenoblade
flint folio
Well you are opposed to finishing them
atomic topaz
shit you know what
sorry sonic colors i actually like the avengers game and have been playing it
i could realistically hop on colors today tho
maybe
idk
flint folio
I just think if a game gets too long you are definitely not gonna finish it
flint folio
Well I understand that but it’s just where you’re at lol
I just stick with stuff if I like it enough, if I jump around too much I forget what I’m doing and don’t finish anything
atomic topaz
I just stick with stuff if I like it enough, if I jump around too much I forget ...
i have that exact problem 
flint folio
Probably far less possible for you, but that being the case means I just stick with games
young dagger
i mean i typically stick to a game for awhile
till i eventually finish it and hyperfixate on more about the game and let it die down
next tartan
If it helps, sonic 06 was the last sonic game that would feasibly take over 10 h...
It took me longer than that to beat forces
flint folio
Skill issue
next tartan
It was!
flint folio
Sonic Twitter is not pleased
This makes sense narratively but all of Twitter is like
OMG SAYGAR COPY PASTE LAZY
But like this is so obvious companies would not do this to that degree, mind you it’s a tutorial level anyway so I really don’t care
Fuckin Twitter man
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/mikesterp1/status/1562415645534195714?s=21&t=YipAqRcrAGKhrdk...
That comparison hardly makes sense
nor is it fair
atomic topaz
Fuckin Twitter man
couldn't have said it better myself
flint folio
Level design is identical at times but like, there’s no way that isn’t intentional
atomic topaz
Level design is identical at times but like, there’s no way that isn’t intention...
im confused by the phrasing of this
flint folio
Cyberspace is supposed to be parts of sonics past and memories, if cyberspace distorts those memories like we see in the background, it’s very possible these levels could reference previous levels
flint folio
In context it’s quite clever, if of course it’s not identical
Which it wasn’t, but it was the tutorial level, windmill act 1 was 45 seconds long at best anyway lol
atomic topaz
lmao
flint folio
Frankly all I’m saying is cyberspace is:
- Not the meat of the game anyway
- Isn’t gonna copy paste that obviously, not that I’d personally be too fussed if it took a decent amount, I’d understand why that’s bad
- gonna reference sonics memories and frankly I think it’s really cool to see in new environments, I’d like to see a mix of old and new
-also they’re entirely optional afaik?
Idk maybe I’m lickin boots here but I will say I think people are too quick to jump on this one this time
I’ve always been very positive here anyway, I don’t wanna be insultingly negative in the way Twitter has been here, it’s such a harsh environment to discuss these things, even if you think it’s bad, which is totally valid, it’s an awful place to convey that
grizzled stone
I like that even if it's just level pieces, I do like that it's from Apotos
Neat to see the levels that don't get represented as much
flint folio
Mini generations 2 in frontiers
atomic topaz
Mini generations 2 in frontiers
I mean hey it's better than nothing
flint folio
I mean hey it’s epic
flint folio
Gimme that shit I’ll take it all day, even if you don’t gel with open zones there’s legit a whole regular boost game in here lol
I’m gonna be in heaven man i tell you
atomic topaz
@flint folio I'm going to try to beat the whole thing too
grizzled stone
Mini generations 2 in frontiers
I like that it's a side thing, Generations makes sense as a look back but continuing to do it in later, non-celebratory games (Forces) seems a little strange to me
flint folio
I like that it's a side thing, Generations makes sense as a look back but contin...
That was just due to it being a rather under developed game and ideas, doing similar things in frontiers makes even more sense, you could even go to less celebrated releases
Though I think levels in forces was just where sonic lived, green hill + chemical plant, hence why there was no sky sanctuary or something lol
flint folio
<@149650923210145792> I'm going to try to beat the whole thing too
Proud
grizzled stone
Though I think levels in forces was just where sonic lived, green hill + chemica...
Ooh, good point!
grizzled stone
That was just due to it being a rather under developed game and ideas, doing sim...
Yeah, I like the idea Frontiers is going for with them
flint folio
city level in full, seems a 2d level
chemical plant, seems to heavily take from the generations levels at the same amount as windmill isle did
Another GHZ level, seems to be the 3d generations levels merged together making an entirely 3d level, ot at least for the full 60s of the video
supports switch online, likely leaderboards?
eggman confirmed
big koco
we can almost confirm these reoccuring levels are intentional, and the new city area seems at least to be fairly new, at least i couldnt tell it was empire city or something
young dagger
Fuckin Twitter man
omg corkscrew, how dare they let him run through that. just like unleashed!
flint folio
Did I post all that to get a tekinky for a video you didn’t watch 😤
atomic topaz
Did I post all that to get a tekinky for a video you didn’t watch 😤
aight so you cant make out any of the dialogue lol
and shes like a hologram or something
all this tells me is yay, amy in the story
We haven't seen much of the other main cast I assume they're around somewhere
atomic topaz
homing looks smooth in this game
It'd be bad if they messed that up but it looks like they didn't
flint folio
Sonic
Sweep
atomic topaz
seems like chemical plant has a brighter look than before
i like that
Also got a hop off to watch this Marvel show
I'll try to view the rest of your content later I would like to keep chatting
flint folio
Let me know, there’s a lot to unpack
flint folio
MAX IT OUT OR BUST
flint folio
People have bugged the demo using save states to get further than the 15 minutes, absolutely crazy stuff
atomic topaz
People have bugged the demo using save states to get further than the 15 minutes...
is there a demo we can play now?
flint folio
Gamescom mate
flint folio
Absolutely
flint folio
Lazy devs is being screamed from the hills on sonic Twitter for these level rehashes and I’m going to lose my shit
I have absolute faith it’s nigh impossible to have an entire team be lazy at this size of game or franchise
atomic topaz
Lazy devs is being screamed from the hills on sonic Twitter for these level reha...
🫂
im with ya
flint folio
I’m in the pool of “yes I understand what you’re saying but I don’t massively care”
I think it’s cool to have mini generations ultimate mixed with new shit, remember frontiers has about 25-30 levels in cyberspace, more than generations and unleashed combined, so that’s gotta be at least 15 brand new levels minimum - fuck it bring half the gens levels over, ill play those in a cyber-fucked area
atomic topaz
Did they ever say how many cyberspace levels there are in total?
flint folio
I just said that while you were typing lol
atomic topaz
Ah fuck
flint folio
I believe it’s around 28 or so but I could be wrong
atomic topaz
Not my fault in this case because I wasn't done typing lmao
flint folio
Yeah it was sent just before you sent so it’s w/e
There’s at least 5 in the first world alone, and there’s 5 islands
You could copy all of generations and unleasheds main levels and still need like what, 18 new levels?
Not bad for a glorified game land from colours
atomic topaz
I think it’s cool to have mini generations ultimate mixed with new shit, remembe...
yeah remember a few months ago where I was bitching because I thought it was going to be just an open world game
im much more excited now
flint folio
The open world is the meat of the game
And guess what? There’s a drop dash in the open world LOL
Clip of it online already
There’s a combo counter, health bars, skill trees, some testers liked it to fuckin DMC of all things
atomic topaz
I remember saying that I really like the level structure
i thinks Sega knows people love it so they're keeping it in some way
flint folio
People at sega must know there are heavy amounts of boost fans, it’s DNA lives here
atomic topaz
yee
flint folio
Some of the highest acclaimed games of the post DC era were all boost games, Generations is always said as the best all round game in recent memory
atomic topaz
Yeah and if there's around 30 cyberspace levels then maybe there's a lot of stage callbacks we haven't heard about yet?
Maybe some of them are new but I have to imagine there's other stuff they're hiding
flint folio
I mean you’d have to copy 3 whole games to do that
We saw one level that was edited version of GHZ to be only 3D, which is actually really interesting lol
atomic topaz
Oh shit
flint folio
I think I posted it here
flint folio
It was the generations version or similar and it was just the 3D parts from that
atomic topaz
nice
atomic topaz
I'll mention colors since it's the most recent sonic game I've played
Sometimes I get really upset that it switches to 2d
flint folio
Yeah colours is massively 2d, which is fine but the levels are very pretty and they lose magic in 2D
Planet wisp felt the most “missed potential” to me
atomic topaz
I know that sounds weird because I love sonic rush but
When it's a big budget console sonic title
i kind of expect it to be mostly 3-D
flint folio
The perfect idea of 3D and 2D seperation prevails
atomic topaz
It's a good game I just find that so weird
flint folio
If frontiers is the next step in sonic games I think we can expect a lot of 3D in future
atomic topaz
Cause the little sections that are in 3-D make my heart race in the best possible way
Perfect adrenaline
flint folio
You have a lot of potential in open world sonic that you could incorporate boost stages into the world
Mate nailing an unleashed level is adrenaline for days
atomic topaz
Seems to me like the only 2D elements in this game are going to appear in cyberspace
flint folio
Yes
atomic topaz
Which is great to be honest
flint folio
Outside of like, camera changes from rail grinding it’s entirely open world 3D
atomic topaz
Like I'm cool with that because it's more of a side thing
flint folio
Boost has always accompanied something, and this is my perfect mix
atomic topaz
I am a massive 2D sonic fan but I will die on this hill I want them to be separate games
flint folio
It’s better for them both, always
atomic topaz
Yeah
flint folio
Can’t ever see why cramming them together would do anything but limit potential
It’s why I prefer unleashed to generations, it went further out
atomic topaz
I think the only time I like the dimension merging was in sonic generations
it just made sense because it merges all these eras together
flint folio
In a celebration game I totally get it
atomic topaz
Yeah
flint folio
It’s a collection of sonics past, sure go for it
I might not care for the classic levels but they deserve to exist, even if I’d have suggested leaving them separate even in that game
atomic topaz
I think unleashed and 06 are the only modern ones that do completely 3-D stages right?
Aside from adventure
atomic topaz
fuck
flint folio
But did fully 3D werehog
atomic topaz
I'm pretty sure it has less 2D than colors though right?
flint folio
A hell of a lot less 2D
atomic topaz
Especially in the boost stages
atomic topaz
hmm
flint folio
But the main 8 or so levels were mostly 3D from what I can remember
But each country had like 3 or 4 levels each
flint folio
I keep my 360 here, I hope my dad donates his One X to me sometime
atomic topaz
I didn't want to beat unleashed eventually
flint folio
Yeah it’s very frustrating when you’re new but I tell you it’s bliss when you get it down
atomic topaz
I just have like 2 zones left on colors too so it would just take me like an afternoon to beat that at this point
The PS5 is very time consuming though
flint folio
Yeah after asteroid coaster there is 2 more levels
Well I’m with you there, I have a switch, ps4 and Xbox all with games on I am yet to finish or wanna play
atomic topaz
Well I’m with you there, I have a switch, ps4 and Xbox all with games on I am ye...
I could definitely put away my wii u though and just keep my xbox there for a while
flint folio
Maybe sub it out and get the Xbox in for a while, could be fun
atomic topaz
Hell I might actually use that TV more often
Id say I have more motivation to play stuff like unleashed on it with frontiers coming soon
flint folio
Yeah I wanna go play some sonic soon, maybe blast through forces levels or get on unleashed or generations on the series X again
atomic topaz
Give me fucking haunted ship from sonic rush adventure as a cyberspace level
flint folio
Mate some of those 2000s 2D games had such originality they should be brought back
After frontiers put sonic fuckin anywhere, I believe in Chad Ian Flynn
atomic topaz
yes
I'm not gonna bitch about how I want that series back I'm just gonna say that if they put in a level from advance or rush I would shit myself
flint folio
I’d love to play those in 3D, it’d be awesome
atomic topaz
I've seen mods where people make sonic rush in 3-D
atomic topaz
I’d love to play those in 3D, it’d be awesome
Machine labyrinth was another good one
atomic topaz
I've just been stuck on night carnival in the original sonic rush for a while now
I want to beat that game
I don't even like the music on that stage
Which is a bummer
flint folio
I got stuck too but I can’t remember where
flint folio
To annoy you
Quick heads up that the demo is supposed to be 15 minutes but the auto saving and using those are making it last longer and people are getting very far in the game lmao
atomic topaz
To annoy you
don't you mean you
flint folio
The reason I want the characters in the game is to experience Flynns version of them
Because new writer, could be vastly different
He gives me enormous faith in the game
atomic topaz
He gives me enormous faith in the game
Just give me tales knuckles and shadow
i will be happy
flint folio
Knuckles is in the prologue isn’t he?
flint folio
Shadow I doubt but I’d love to see him
atomic topaz
Shadow I doubt but I’d love to see him
Wait why do you doubt shadow
I don't know why but I think he fits the vibe of this game
flint folio
5 islands, tails, Amy, eggman, knuckles, final? I’m not sure where he would fit
atomic topaz
Like obviously don't bring in a bunch of random shit like they did in the opening of forces but shadow pls
flint folio
Maybe save shadow for the next game adventure style, and make him a huge focus
Idk I’ll take shadow later game fuck it
atomic topaz
Like remember the part where shadow appears followed by chaos from adventure and then the one dude from lost world
flint folio
Zavok
atomic topaz
That was just cheesy lol
flint folio
Ah its a thing that happened I suppose lol
atomic topaz
I can't be bothered to remember all those lost world fuckers
I don't feel like the canon really cared about them much anyways
flint folio
Zavok, Zazz, fat one, old one, emo, woman
atomic topaz
just woman
lol
atomic topaz
I really enjoyed your descriptions for the ones where you forgot their names
atomic topaz
Idk I’ll take shadow later game fuck it
I mean yeah might be long enough to where he shows up somewhere
atomic topaz
I feel like they're hiding a lot of characters
It's not like they showed big the cat in trailers
flint folio
Idk, they were supposed to only show Amy but the demo bugged lol
atomic topaz
Also if fucking Big gets in why the fuck can't we have shadow
yeah that sentence was a bit fan boyish but I just think he deserves a little bit of time
flint folio
Not every character needs to be in every game mind you
flint folio
Shoehorning in the coolest character isn’t always the best idea
Like if he doesn’t fit I’m ok with no feature
atomic topaz
At the very least I'm excited for the knuckles love
He's probably as essential to sonic as tails is but still
atomic topaz
Not every character needs to be in every game mind you
I mean yeah to be fair we haven't seen any cyberspace levels from the adventure games
So maybe its at least a tad possible hes not in this
flint folio
I dunno man, it’s pure speculation as it stands
next tartan
Quick heads up that the demo is supposed to be 15 minutes but the auto saving an...
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
When's the demo out?
flint folio
No public demo you half wit
flint folio
When's the demo out?
The demo at Gamescom was 15 minutes long before it booted you but if you loaded autosaves it let you keep playing and apparently people damn near finished the first island and then they banned cameras and fixed the issue
flint folio
I mean kinda, we saw some good stuff because of it they just didn’t intend to show it yet
next tartan
Yea L for sega and W for us
flint folio
I’m baffled how stuff like this even happens
next tartan
It's sega
grizzled stone
M E T O Y
O U R M O
T H E R !```Amazing
grizzled stone
sonic falling flat on his face, this truly is a sonic game
oh wow yeah! neat to see
atomic topaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO6PpQ9xF64
Roger sounds like he had a cold while recording this
flint folio
Baldy nose hair sonic no more
atomic topaz
Which apparently was the case for Jason while he was recording Unleashed
I heard that somewhere
flint folio
Jason had full on strep
flint folio
Like cunt was in agony being the werehog lol, what a champ
Roger is just going for a deeper sonic, tone of the game and all
atomic topaz
Yeah
thats an impressive job honestly
atomic topaz
Roger is just going for a deeper sonic, tone of the game and all
Yeah I thought so too but it's still something I'm not quite used to
flint folio
Yeah give it time, but I’m very excited to hear more
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/whyyydreed/status/1563601057707544576?s=21&t=FNIQxDPPQ25GSef...
that looks super fun
and fluid
unique osprey
Sonic
young dagger
true
flint folio
Not false
flint folio
So this “insider” has woken up recently
Their legitimacy is very questionable frankly but some of the community is taking it as true
Fuck me do I have to buy sonic lost world
Again
flint folio
Maybe if it gets a massive overhaul but some of the claims this account has made are nuts
atomic topaz
Maybe if it gets a massive overhaul but some of the claims this account has made...
port the 3ds version
flint folio
Oh good god
atomic topaz
Oh good god
most people who play every sonic game agree its better than the wii u version
flint folio
Some people do, idk
I saw it for sale again today but I’m just not ready to buy that version lmao
atomic topaz
Some people do, idk
I saw it for sale again today but I’m just not ready to buy ...
iam
except i cant anymore
flint folio
Alright then
grizzled stone
good thing about if the 3DS version got ported (or like, if the levels and stuff got put in the main game's engine) - special stage wouldn't be forced motion controls anymore
atomic topaz
good thing about if the 3DS version got ported (or like, if the levels and stuff...
they'd probably have to remove that regardless lol
flint folio
Lost world switch port
Bottom text
The fuck would I even do with another lost world copy, try like the game?
grizzled stone
they'd probably have to remove that regardless lol
Yeah!
grizzled stone
The fuck would I even do with another lost world copy, try like the game?
Eat it I guess
I'm kinda interested in playing it on PC
flint folio
I dunno why but I was not fussed at its steam port really
atomic topaz
unless the motion controls in a game were interesting or worthwhile, or added things to the game, they're probably better off ignored
in modern ports
flint folio
Since there are ports without them already, idk why motion would return
atomic topaz
Yes
flint folio
Sonic gamescom embargo dropped, time for news dump with me
City cyberspace level looks very open in places and it’s very cool
Iizuka confirmed the intentional memory theory that the levels are from his memories, but he also says there will be never been seen before levels too
Knuckles is on the 2nd island
Fairly interesting SCU lmao
Some 2nd island B roll
atomic topaz
Iizuka confirmed the intentional memory theory that the levels are from his memo...
YEAAAAAA BOI
lets go
@flint folio I just remembered that for some reason I dreamed last night that I bought sonic adventure on a portable system
flint folio
Don’t we all
atomic topaz
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/l4yqrazXZRE
looked kinda slow at first
like compared to other boost levels ive played
flint folio
I don’t think every level is going to be blisteringly fast
Plus there’s more to the level than it’s flat speed
atomic topaz
Plus there’s more to the level than it’s flat speed
do we know for certain if this game has the boost mechanic?
flint folio
Yes, there’s been boosting since the very first trailer of gameplay
flint folio
There’s so so so much footage of boosting
atomic topaz
There’s so so so much footage of boosting
cash money
flint folio
looked kinda slow at first
looks fine to me, not every game has to be as fast as possible, also let it be known you can upgrade speed and this is also far more open road - so idk
atomic topaz
looks fine to me, not every game has to be as fast as possible, also let it be k...
Yeah thats a good point, if the game has skill upgrades and such
i bet this clip was from early in the game
flint folio
we know for a fact that level is in the first island
atomic topaz
we know for a fact that level is in the first island
i have a seperate question
how long do you think they've been working on Frontiers?
is it possible they started right after forces came out?
flint folio
Jdjdjdjdhdh
atomic topaz
literally what we were talking about the other day
flint folio
Yeah
flint folio
I mean shadow doesn’t need shoe horning in everywhere because he’s cool, and I don’t personally actually care about playing as too many characters lol
atomic topaz
i like how lizuka is so blunt lmao
flint folio
It’s probably because he isn’t native English speaking lol
atomic topaz
lol
grizzled stone
Shadow doesn't natively speak english?
atomic topaz
lauren lmao
grizzled stone
the only english sonic character I can think of is professor pickle
atomic topaz
the only english sonic character I can think of is professor pickle
And doesn't he have like a really exaggerated accent
grizzled stone
I take it back
he measures in IMPERIAL
how dare
Though, while it's probably unconventional, mayo and black pepper on a cucumber sandwich sounds like a good idea
flint folio
I take it back
He’s old enough to have been there when we cared about that sort of thing
grizzled stone
Yeah true
atomic topaz
the fuck is this gonna elude to
sonic's gonna fuck you up
flint folio
Correct
atomic topaz
reminds me of these epic intense close ups from Ace Attorney
flint folio
Sonic vs Sage like this
grizzled stone
Amy getting the same billing as Tails wow
also why is hitting me now how Breath of the Wild and The Matrix this feels
flint folio
I’m officially rattled for this video game
atomic topaz
also why is hitting me now how Breath of the Wild and The Matrix this feels
interesting mashup
flint folio
oh fun lmao
flint folio
Did you hit the ball
atomic topaz
Yes
I'm playing as the girl from space channel 5 and I beat the girl from jet set radio
flint folio
Lovely
atomic topaz
atomic topaz
Buster
visual galleon
I should try doing a remix of it
atomic topaz
just listen
this guy does mashups but hides them under the titles
its pretty brilliant actually
atomic topaz
BILL
I never would have thought
But Bill nye jingle is a really good fit for that song
visual galleon
I need another mashup like this
unique osprey
*port the 3ds version*
i used to love the 3ds version…not the special stage tho
atomic topaz
@flint folio this twitter account made me laugh
grizzled stone
Oh hey, looking at monitors on eBay and someone's using sonk
flint folio
ah the generations trailer thing
atomic topaz
<@149650923210145792> this twitter account made me laugh
what happened to the first 19 shadows
flint folio
whot
flint folio
well it says anniversaire on the top
atomic topaz
well it says anniversaire on the top
i know but its a pretty bad way to order those terms lol
atomic topaz
ah fuck
grizzled stone
well it says anniversaire on the top
Shadeau le Hedgehogue
atomic topaz
are you okay
ornate oyster
no
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/onthedownlotho/status/1569701733173002241?s=46&t=GAexqxYrCDP...
This isn't trying to be nit picky but I think I'd prefer footage shown in a state of play anyways because it will be footage from the best running version of the game
if its even shown by sony
we dont know of course, but that would be cool
flint folio
Gonna be honest I don’t think you’d say that if you didn’t have a PS5, so I’d like to see all versions, it’s pointless to advertise lesser versions if all you show is the ps5/series X versions
It’s being sold on switch, advertising that with high end PC footage would be stupid, I want to know what to expect from all versions of the game as I’ll likely experience most of them
atomic topaz
It’s being sold on switch, advertising that with high end PC footage would be st...
well i'll also say
any new footage is good
flint folio
Yes, but please represent all versions
atomic topaz
I wasn't actually saying don't do that
flint folio
I know PC/PS5/Xbox will look great, but the switch version fascinates me, and I wanna know if Xbone and PS4 Pro will hit 60
atomic topaz
I don't mean to come off as privileged PS5 owner
lol
I respect that you can appreciate the differences
flint folio
Also it’s good for the sake of the consumer to know exactly what they get, too
I mean how many times have we seen a high end PC build trailer and the game itself didn’t look like that on anything
Of course I’ll be looking for a ps5 fairly soon but I’d like to see the old versions too
atomic topaz
I mean how many times have we seen a high end PC build trailer and the game itse...
oh yeah cyberpunk moment
flint folio
Watch dogs, aliens colonial marines from sega themselves also spring to mind
next tartan
i think you play as ss in every island at the end
and kind of purge the island of whatever is wrong with it
then the emeralds go to another island
atomic topaz
https://youtu.be/XET9s-9PLas
yooooooooo
fuckin BANGER
love the drums on that track
flint folio
Did you hear the other one
atomic topaz
maybe not?
flint folio
then the emeralds go to another island
Must do, since he’s super on island 1
flint folio
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1567981251688288258?s=46&t=5o_XiFKTAb6...
This one
I think
atomic topaz
i feel like it's a tradition at this point to have bangin drums on sonic tracks
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1567981251688288258?s=46&t=5o_XiFKTAb6...
its good but it made me laugh how over the top and melodramatic the vocals were lol
im personally more drawn to the epic drums on vandalize
but nonetheless, great music so far
atomic topaz
Hopefully more of it
sonic music never misses for some reason
like pretty much never
the worst sonic tracks i can think of are just ok
not terrible
so thats impressive
flint folio
Sonic forces had some absolute bangers, frankly the stuff I think is worst is just not my thing
atomic topaz
Sonic forces had some absolute bangers, frankly the stuff I think is worst is ju...
i feel like the worst tracks are ones that appear on ports that mess up the audio quality, and that kinda doesnt even count lol
sonic jam on the game.com
flint folio
Well that’s not what the fault of the music,
I’m sure green day would sound shit through a gameboy speaker that someone had shat on and threw in the sea but that is more the fault of what is making the noise
atomic topaz
yeah
atomic topaz
Well that’s not what the fault of the music,
I’m sure green day would sound shit...
now im interested to hear that actually
flint folio
Remember when McDonald’s did small music players that played like 20 seconds of a song
Yeah that
atomic topaz
lol yup
grizzled stone
Remember when McDonald’s did small music players that played like 20 seconds of ...
That was fun
I think I had one with Jason Derulo's Whatcha Say on it
atomic topaz
I think I had one with Jason Derulo's Whatcha Say on it
All I remember about that song is that it was really annoying because I would always be trying to find the original version of "mmm watcha say" at the original speed and I kept forgetting that its from an Imogen Heep track and the search results would always show me Jason Derulo first
cuz yknow, he sampled it and sped it up lol
grizzled stone
I love me some Imogen heap
flint folio
apparently sakurai liked what he played of frontiers
do we win now
grizzled stone
Can't wait to see someone draw phallic imagery with it XD
but oooh that's pretty neat
grizzled stone
Delicious promo art
atomic topaz
@flint folio
grizzled stone
also idea: chronicles but the music's replaced with the nokia arabic ringtone
flint folio
Seen that, it’s neat
grizzled stone
I like the pure black shading and slight roughness
also, still happy to see Amy get more of a spotlight than recently
flint folio
Pokit adventr
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/sonic_frontier/status/1571818677070139393?s=46&t=C7aa9vOeJKg...
about what i expected, but still great to hear
switch specs are just kinda impressive
its cool
flint folio
It’s actually lower than I expected on both current and old gen
But frame rate can vary so who knows
atomic topaz
yeah that too
gotta say i expected it to do 4k and 60 on ps5
like at the same time
tho i doubt i'll be bothered by having to sarcrifice 4k for 60 fps, its just a sonic game, personally i don't need it to look like Red Dead Redemption 2 or some shit
grizzled stone
I guess I'd be thinking it'd be like Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart with the ray tracing vs performance modes
kinda also expected maybe 1080p60 on PS4 (or even PS4 Pro) but also I haven't owned any of these consoles soooo
atomic topaz
kinda also expected maybe 1080p60 on PS4 (or even PS4 Pro) but also I haven't ow...
As far as I know the vast majority of games running on base PS4 don't do 60 FPS
I think the last of us remastered did but, that's just an upscale of a late era ps3 game
ornate oyster
sonic
flint folio
As far as I know the vast majority of games running on base PS4 don't do 60 FPS
apparently TLOU 2 also just about ran at 60, not sure if thats all ps4s
theres a fair amount of them, but also whenever i played a game at 30 i kinda forgot eventually anyway
i expect PS4Pro will at least attempt to reach 60, but ps5 not being able to do both at a target is interesting, makes you wonder how the game will look
i only have 1 4k display in my house anyway so its whatever
atomic topaz
i only have 1 4k display in my house anyway so its whatever
my philips tv is 4k
doesnt usually look 4k tho, i think its more 1080 but looks great anyways
flint folio
Depends if what you’re viewing is set to 4k lol
atomic topaz
Depends if what you’re viewing is set to 4k lol
yeahhhhhhh
i may not have ever checked lol
flint folio
You pillock
atomic topaz
Correct
atomic topaz
theres a fair amount of them, but also whenever i played a game at 30 i kinda fo...
i feel like most games made for ps4 originally will be 30, but if its something older or a remaster its more likely to run at 60
flint folio
You tell me you “feel like” but you can literally check
It’s a bit of a mix and match, but the generation was weird as PS4 Pro exists
Which does all sorts of frame rates
atomic topaz
It’s a bit of a mix and match, but the generation was weird as PS4 Pro exists
mix and match is probably the term i should have used lol
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